Tiers

[JacobRit]

The SECOND tier of English football is called the championship, its is a bitterly competative league because of the prize of reaching the premiership! I would say it would rival most other european FIRST tier leagues in terms of stadia size! Check them out!

BRIGHTON

Brighton are currently homeless, they play at a converted athletics stadium that is very small while they go through legal wrangles to build a 25,000 seat stadium.

WITHDEAN STADIUM capacity 7,045

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/36.jpg


BURNLEY

TURF MOOR capacity 22,546

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/90.jpg

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/m/t/mtdm040827175306.jpg


CARDIFF

NINIAN PARK capacity 21,000 approx

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/97.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/wales/cardiff_ninian.jpg


COVENTRY

HIGHFIELD ROAD capacity 23,000 approx

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/9.jpg

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/i/k/iktp040827175444.jpg


CREWE

GRESTY ROAD/ALEXANDRIA STADIUM capacity 10,118

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_west/crewe_alexandra.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/51.jpg


CRYSTAL PALACE

SELHURST PARK capacity 26,309

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/31.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/london/london_selhurst_park.jpg


DERBY COUNTY

PRIDE PARK capacity 33,597

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/east_midlands/derby_pride_park1.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/24.jpg


HULL CITY (SCUM BARSTEWARDS)

THE KC STADIUM capacity 25,404

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/l/p/lpir040827120746.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/hull_kingston1.jpg


IPSWICH (BOO)

PORTMAN ROAD capacity 30,300

http://www.stadiumguide.com/portman1.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/eastern/ipswich_portman.jpg


LEEDS UNITED

ELLAND ROAD capacity 40,200

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/2.jpg

http://www.homesoffootball.co.uk/1173_LEEDS_UNITED.jpg



LEICESTER CITY

WALKERS STADIUM capacity 32,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/east_midlands/leicester_walkers.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/13.jpg


LUTON TOWN

KENILWORTH ROAD capacity 9,700

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/102.jpg



MILLWALL

THE NEW DEN capacity 20,146

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/q/p/qpao040519130901.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/103.jpg



NORWICH CITY (yay)

CARROW ROAD capacity 25,500

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/eastern/norwich_carrow.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/45.jpg



PLYMOUTH ARGYLE

HOME PARK capacity 20,000 approx

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_west/plymouth_home_park.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/76.jpg



PRESTON NORTH END

DEEPDALE capacity 22,000 approx

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/preston41.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/107.jpg



QUEENS PARK RANGERS

LOFTUS ROAD capacity 19,145

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/b/a/ball040519125218.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/52.jpg



READING

MADEJSKI STADIUM capacity 24,200

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/reading_madjeski.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/108.jpg



SHEFFIELD UNITED

BRAMALL LANE capacity 30,500 approx

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/sheffield_bramall.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/49.jpg



SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY

HILLSBOROUGH capacity 39,800

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/sheffield_hillsborough.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/19.jpg ]



SOUTHAMPTON

ST MARYS STADIUM capacity 32,000 approx

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/southampton_st_mary1.jpg

http://earth.sunwing.co.jp/MatchOfTheDay/stadium/s-StMarys.jpg



STOKE CITY

BRITANNIA STADIUM capacity 28,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/stoke_britannia.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/110.jpg



WATFORD

VICARAGE ROAD capacity 22,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/watford_vicarage.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/57.jpg



WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS

MOLINEUX GROUND capacity 28,500

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/wolverhampton_molineux.jpg

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/images/stadia/39.jpg


i think you would agree pretty impressive!!

[nick_taylor]

The lower leagues (ie third division, fourth, etc) can get pretty crazy as well. Milton Keynes Don's are currently building...and wait get this: a 30,000 all-seater, all-covered stadium - they are in the 3rd division (ie ranked from the end of all football seasons as 64th.....)!!!!!


http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/milton_keynes_mk.jpg




Brighton's planned new 25,000 stadium aint to bad looking either!

http://freespace.virgin.net/tim.carder/savebrighton/stadium.jpg




Nor is Coventry's new 32,000 stadium - quite an interesting design that incorporates a hypermarket and a leisure centre (nearly finished).

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Arena_Coventry_A.jpeg

[Mr. T]

This thread makes me sad. I see how far the Greek league lags behind even Britans second division in terms of stadia. Besides Karaiskaki Stadium, The Athens Olympic Stadium, Kaftanzoglio(Thessaloniki), stadiums in Patras, Volos, Crete most of these stadia are better than the stadia of any teams in the Greek league. Sad to see if you ask me.

[birminghamculture]

Wait till this beast expands to 46,250. :runaway:

It will be stunning.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/wolverhampton_molineux.jpg

[birminghamculture]

The North and South bank will have an extra tier added although it wont be seperated from whats thier already, so literally it will be how it is now, but twice the height.

http://www.duesselhopper.de/Wolves20033.jpg

The Steve Bull stand will also get an extra tier aswell as new corporate boxes. this is the long sided top stand. The corners will also be filled in. upping the capacity by 17,750 seats. This picture shows it best, just imagine the 2 side tiers being twice as high and with the same seating gradient - be almost American like.

http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/~c9807629/molineux.ground.gif

[birminghamculture]

Swansea city another English 3rd divison team have not long ago completed thier 20,000 seat White Rock stadium.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/slideshows/images/stadium_computer340.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/slideshows/images/whiterock_dec14.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/slideshows/images/stadium_pitch05_340.jpg

[eddyk]

I was gonna say you forgot the Coventry arena....the pitch has been laid and all the seats are in....its my fave stadium from that league!


St Marys is also great...and Hull Citys.


Top German Sides Bayer Leverkusens stadium has a capacity of 22K...many lower leage team stadiums in the UK beat that.

We may not have the biggest biggest, but we have the biggest smallest...by far

[birminghamculture]

I was gonna say you forgot the Coventry arena....the pitch has been laid and all the seats are in....its my fave stadium from that league!

They've asked for the first 3 games of the season to be played away as it wont be completed.

P.S its not silver in real life, its actually white and doesnt look quite as good.

Definately one of the best though, ... However, even if I was a neutral my favourite stadium would still be molineux "The Custard Bowl" just because its different and the proposals look stunning. Where else would you find a pure golden stadium, its so bright and fun. huge TV's in either corner and wolves heads on the mounds, just cant beat it. Whenever I go its like going to an amusement park ;) :cheers:

[eddyk]

Yeah....Im on the official stadium site often....it also has a casino and cancert hall in there....which is good...

http://www.arenacoventry.com/default.asp

The side looks amazing....the blue and black cladding!

[Giorgio]

This thread makes me sad. I see how far the Greek league lags behind even Britans second division in terms of stadia. Besides Karaiskaki Stadium, The Athens Olympic Stadium, Kaftanzoglio(Thessaloniki), stadiums in Patras, Volos, Crete most of these stadia are better than the stadia of any teams in the Greek league. Sad to see if you ask me.

How many know of the Greek league and how many know of the English leagues?

Greeces Stadiums are superior for a small nation and small following. And Greek soccer will only get better.
Problem with Greek soccer is that theres no competition. AEK Olympiakos and PAO Get all the attention. How many people here out of greece know of another greek club?

[Madman]

So upsetting to see Southampton in a thread not about the Premiership. Just not used to them not being in the top league :cry:

[eddyk]

Pride Park...
http://www.ilkcam.com/2002/020310/02031006.jpg

KC Stadium
http://www.gogetwise.co.uk/images/photos/kcstadium/S2300007.jpg

Walkers Stadium
http://siesta.cool.ne.jp/WalkersStadium/Leicester_Blackburn04.jpg http://jonathan.rawle.org/pg/leicester/images/stad.jpg

Madejski Stadium (Gallery from offical site)
http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Outside/0,,10306,00.html[/img]

[MoreOrLess]

I'v always had the impression that English football has more strenght in depth than most other nations due to its history. Since it developed here rather than being introduced many of the dominant early teams were not nesserarly from the larger cities.

[JimB]

I'v always had the impression that English football has more strenght in depth than most other nations due to its history. Since it developed here rather than being introduced many of the dominant early teams were not nesserarly from the larger cities.

You only have to look at the attendance figures for English football by comparison to the rest of Europe (and probably the world) to see that that is true. Germany is the only nation than can match England's top league attendances, but only because Germany currently has far bigger stadia.

But in every division below the top flight, English football's attendances are so much bigger, they hardly bear comparison with other countries. In fact, attendances in the second tier of English football are higher than top flight attendances in all but four or five other countries.

Even the third tier of English football is better attended than the majority of countries' top tier football.

Incidentally, in addition to the stadia already shown in this thread, think of the stadia that have just left the Championship: City Ground, Nottingham (about 30,000); Stadium of Light, Sunderland (about 48,000); Upton Park, West Ham (about 36,000); and JJB stadium, Wigan (about 25,000).

[eddyk]

Incidently....here are those stadiums

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/acom/webdesign/sample1/aerialJJB.jpg
JJB Stadium

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/p/e/peed040519131857.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/westham29.jpg

Stadium of Light
http://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/images/stadium-of-light-sunderland.jpg

City Ground...

http://www.groundhopping.de/nottfgr1.jpg

[Fry]

Top German Sides Bayer Leverkusens stadium has a capacity of 22K...many lower leage team stadiums in the UK beat that.
indeed, most german 2nd league stadiums are far bigger as well, including several 2006 wc stadiums with 2nd or even lower league teams like düsseldorf or leipzig.

leipzig:
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/zentralstadion/20031112/wm_121103_02.jpg
düsseldorf:
http://web.walter-bau.de/images/de/presse/downloads/72dpi/buergertag.jpg

[Kampflamm]

Top German Sides Bayer Leverkusens stadium has a capacity of 22K...many lower leage team stadiums in the UK beat that.



What's your point? That's because they don't have any fans (it'll be expanded to 30,000 over the next couple of years though). Check out this 2nd Bundesliga stadium though. :D

http://www.allianz-arena.de/imperia/md/images/allianzarena2003/bildergalerien/bildschirmbilder/1024x768/eroeffnung_030605/10.jpg

[MoreOrLess]

Some attendances figures for the season before last...

Top Division - England Average = 35.020 Germany Average = 37,479

Second Division - England Average = 15,893 German Average = 9,536

Third Division - England Average = 7,506 German Average = 3,522

Forth Division - England Average = 5,390 German Average - No Figure

[eddyk]

What's your point? That's because they don't have any fans (it'll be expanded to 30,000 over the next couple of years though). Check out this 2nd Bundesliga stadium though. :D

http://www.allianz-arena.de/imperia/md/images/allianzarena2003/bildergalerien/bildschirmbilder/1024x768/eroeffnung_030605/10.jpg


wow, didnt know Bayern Munich were in Germanys 2nd devision.

[eddyk]

What's your point? That's because they don't have any fans (it'll be expanded to 30,000 over the next couple of years though). Check out this 2nd Bundesliga stadium though. :D

http://www.allianz-arena.de/imperia/md/images/allianzarena2003/bildergalerien/bildschirmbilder/1024x768/eroeffnung_030605/10.jpg


Misleading pic...as thats Bayen Munich in there...which is why the stadiums so big.

[erki89]

many 2. BL teams have big stadia too.
RheinEnergieStadion 1.FC Köln 51.000*
Ludwigspark-Stadion 1. FC Saarbrücken 35.286
Wildparkstadion Karlsruher SC 33.550
Commerzbank-Arena Eintracht Frankfurt 33.209*
MSV-Arena MSV Duisburg 30.112*
Rudolf-Harbig-Stadion Dynamo Dresden 30.000
Stadion Grünwalder Straße TSV 1860 München 28.000**
Georg-Melches-Stadion Rot-Weiß Essen 25.600
Tivoli TSV Alemannia Aachen 24.816
Stadion der Freundschaft FC Energie Cottbus 22.450
Niederrheinstadion SC Rot-Weiß Oberhausen 21.318
Steigerwaldstadion Rot-Weiß Erfurt 20.000
Erzgebirgsstadion FC Erzgebirge Aue 20.000
*Promoted
** Will play in the Allianz-Arena (66000) next season

[Madman]

What is happening to the Olympic Stadium in Munich now that the football teams are moving to the Allianz Arena?

[nick_taylor]

Ah so Bayern and 1860 are stadium sharing, also what will happen to 1860's crappy ground (real dump - onto a winner if they are groundsharing with Bayern!!!! Olympiastadion is still the 2nd largest stadium in Germany then (and will remain so for the forseeable future then?) at around 76,000 and the Westfalenstadion at around 82,000 then yes?? I took a few pictures of the Olympiastadion when I was in Berlin - quite a nice mix of stone and refurbish interior :yes:

[MoreOrLess]

What is happening to the Olympic Stadium in Munich now that the football teams are moving to the Allianz Arena?

I'd guess its returning to athetics and entrertainment events use which IMHO its actually more suited for than football.

[Iain1974]

Season 2004/5 Attenances were...........

Top Division - England Average = 33,814 (12.8M) Germany Average = 36,720 (11.2M)

Second Division - England Average = 17,082 (9.4M) German Average = 12,667 (3.4M)

Third Division - England Average = 7,631 (4.2M) German Average = 3,446 (2.1M)

Forth Division - England Average = 4,375 (2.4M)

Fifth Division - England Average = 1,982 (0.9M)

Sixth Division - England Average = 510 (0.5M) (north and south)


Second divisions;

England - 17,084
Germany - 12,667
Italy - 6,530
Spain - 7,461
France - 6,358
Greece - 1,220
Holland - 3,037
Scotland - 2,493

[Iain1974]

Bump.

[bubomb]

Germany doesn't have a 3rd division. There are 2 Bundesliga leagues then after that you have regional leagues made up of mainly amatuer teams like Hamburger SV-2, FC Köln-2, SV Werder Bremen-2, TSV Bayer 04 Leverkussen-2, FC Bayern München-2 etc.


"Below the level of the 2.Bundesliga, leagues are most often subdivided on a regional basis. For example, the Regionaliga is currently made up of a Nord (North) and Sud (South) division, and the Oberliga is comprised of divisions representing states, or large urban and geographical areas. League structure has shifted frequently and typically reflects the degree of participation in the sport in various parts of the country. In the early 90's, changes were driven by the reunification of Germany and the subsequent intregration of the national leagues of East and West Germany.

Every team in the Bundesliga must have a license to play in the league, or else they get relegated into the regional leagues. To obtain a license teams must be financially healthy and meet certain standards of conduct as organizations."


At the moment the list reads -

Bundesliga - 39717, Premiership - 33647

Bundesliga 2 - 13122, Championship - 17382


The DFB predicts averages will end up around the 41000 mark at the end of the season, as crowds will get bigger as the winter months come to an end. Crowds are always a bit lower in Germany in the Dec-Feb months.


I await the wrath of the English 'fanboys'!!

[Its AlL gUUd]

^^ Err yeah everyone knows that Germany have a higher figure in the budesliga but thats because of bigger stadia capacity.

[Iain1974]

At the moment the list reads -

Bundesliga - 39717, Premiership - 33647

Bundesliga 2 - 13122, Championship - 17382


The DFB predicts averages will end up around the 41000 mark at the end of the season, as crowds will get bigger as the winter months come to an end. Crowds are always a bit lower in Germany in the Dec-Feb months.

I await the wrath of the English 'fanboys'!!

I'm convinced Germany will break the 40,000 barrier. Well done to them, the policy of constructing larger stadia than required to allow for fan number growth and cheap tickets is really paying off in the Bundesliga.

[2005]

Wait till this beast expands to 46,250. :runaway:

It will be stunning.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/wolverhampton_molineux.jpg

Whaaaaaaa

Wolves are planing to make their stadium 46,250 I could see around 40,000 as they had been outside of the top flight for many years and then went straight back down in 2004.

Do you by any chance have pics of what it would look like?

[bubomb]

Wolves will not upgrade their stadium unless they become established in the Premiership -

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/wolves.htm

[2005]

Wolves will not upgrade their stadium unless they become established in the Premiership -

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/wolves.htm

That info might be right this info is wrong very very wrong

Steve Edwards informs me; 'Haringey Council have now approved plans for the redevelopment of the East Stand at White Hart Lane. When completed this will increase the capacity of White Hart Lane to 50,000. However, the Club will not go ahead with the re-development until the Government improve transport links around the stadium. The Club have even mooted that if the transport situation is not adequately resolved, they would leave the Lane and possibly move to the new Wembley Stadium that is currently being built'.

I don't how Spurs could add 14,000 seats to the East stand. That info has been there for years at the time that info came out (2001) Spurs actually had plans to make WHL 44,000 by re-building the East stand so I don't know about that site whether to beleave it or not.

[bubomb]

It is the most respected UK stadium site!! All the latest updates are in the forums. The Spurs page is probably out of date as nothing is going to happen with WHL in the near future or a fan simply got his facts wrong! Go to the forums and vote for the perfect UK stadium!! The main stand has been chosen (Ibrox), but the other 3 are up for grabs (The 'ideal ground' can't have two stands from the same ground) -

http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showforum=2

[2005]

It is the most respected UK stadium site!! All the latest updates are in the forums. The Spurs page is probably out of date as nothing is going to happen with WHL in the near future or a fan simply got his facts wrong! Go to the forums and vote for the perfect UK stadium!! The main stand has been chosen (Ibrox), but the other 3 are up for grabs (The 'ideal ground' can't have two stands from the same ground) -

http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showforum=2

Bubomb have you ever noticed a member there called 2005 ;)

[Lostboy]

indeed, most german 2nd league stadiums are far bigger as well, including several 2006 wc stadiums with 2nd or even lower league teams like düsseldorf or leipzig.

Your being misleading with Leipzig. The boyfriend of a friend of mine, plays for their team, and has he tells me the club has to pay a crippling amount of rent to use the stadium from its owner. Additionally Leipzig was built because the previous stadia was one of the largest in the Eastern Bloc, and it was thought to be appropiate to replace it, after unification with a fitting modern stadium appropiate to the city's former legacy.

All the English 2nd League Stadia are owned by their clubs, and by and large most of them reach near capacity.

It is though, a very fine stadium, for a very nice city.

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

The German Bundesliga has higher average attendances at the moment becasue of various factors:

a) There has been a fairly recent construction of lots of high capacity, high quality stadiums which fans are attracted to, meaning average attendances are bound to be higher with higher capacity, quality stadiums.

b) With the World Cup approacing in Germany, football has been given even greater scope in recent years for German club football.

c) Ticket prices are extraordinarily cheap, with the average price being €18 compared to the English avergae €44.

d) Germany's population of over 80m far outstrips that of the English 50m

e) Recent success in football for German club teams has gained more interest from fans.


But, through all of this, the English Premiership is still probably the most respected, world renown, passionate and exciting league in the world at the moment, with the Spanish La Liga very close behind.

Plus, with Arsenal's new 60,000 stadium, Liverpool's probable new 60,000 stadium some time in the future, Man United's expansion of Old Trafford to 76,000 and other clubs thinking about or currently updadting their own stadiums, I think the Premiership will see higher everage attendances then ever in coming years.

:cheers:

[bubomb]

The German Bundesliga has higher average attendances at the moment becasue of various factors:

a) There has been a fairly recent construction of lots of high capacity, high quality stadiums which fans are attracted to, meaning average attendances are bound to be higher with higher capacity, quality stadiums.

b) With the World Cup approacing in Germany, football has been given even greater scope in recent years for German club football.

c) Ticket prices are extraordinarily cheap, with the average price being €18 compared to the English avergae €44.

d) Germany's population of over 80m far outstrips that of the English 50m

e) Recent success in football for German club teams has gained more interest from fans.


But, through all of this, the English Premiership is still probably the most respected, world renown, passionate and exciting league in the world at the moment, with the Spanish La Liga very close behind.

Plus, with Arsenal's new 60,000 stadium, Liverpool's probable new 60,000 stadium some time in the future, Man United's expansion of Old Trafford to 76,000 and other clubs thinking about or currently updadting their own stadiums, I think the Premiership will see higher everage attendances then ever in coming years.

:cheers:

You must be havin a laugh mate!! The Premiership is bloody awful at the moment. The atmosphere at games is terrible due to boring fans who sit all game and don't sing or do anything to help create an atmosphere! German games have amazing atmosphere due to passionate fans who sing all game, arrange great fan displays and give it their all for 90 minutes. They also have large standing terraces at nearly all German stadiums which helps the atmosphere. There is no comparison, German games have amazing atmosphere!!

I've stopped watching the Premiership because it's so rubbish. On most games on Sky you can hear a pin drop and the league is pointless as Chelsea have won it before a ball is kicked.

The Premiership has been 'self-declared' the best league in the world by English fans, but in reality it is utter mince!! It was good about 4 years ago, but it has been going downhill ever since. Most game are terrible!! You would have to pay me to watch the likes of Aston Villa, Sunderland, Birmingham City, Charlton Athletic, West Bromwich Albion, Portsmouth, Everton. Most games on Sky could send you to sleep!!

At English games, all you see is punters sitting around looking drab in drab clothes, sitting on their arses doing nothing. Lots of them don't even wear team colours!! I hope the Premiership improves as right now it's terrible with absolutely no passion or excitement!! All the English guys at my work even admit they don't watch nearly as many games on Sky as they used to, as they find it boring and Chelsea have won it before the season starts!!

You have obviously never been to a German league game! It's amazing, truly passionate fans who sing, chant and give it their all for 90 minutes. It's like nothing you have ever seen in the UK!! They really love their football!! I'm afraid the days of UK fans being passionate at games has well and truly ended!!

Look at these photos from German league games - these are just ordinary league games - no comparison i'm afraid!!


Borussia Mönchengladbach -


http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_moenchengladbach/saison20052006/liga_4/140pm.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_moenchengladbach/saison20052006/liga_4/150bb.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_moenchengladbach/saison20052006/liga_3/120_bu.jpg

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Bayern Munich -


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Schalke -


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Hannover -


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Wolfsburg -


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Hertha Berlin -


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Hamburg -


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Cologne -


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Kaiserslautern -


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Eintracht Frankfurt -


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[Jack Rabbit Slim]

BuBomb, don't overload the thread with pictures you idiot, you should post no more then 5 pics really if you wanna respect the presence pf other users...but then again, judging from what I have seen of you on thses forums, I'm talkin to a brick wall aint I?

I never said football in Germany wasn't passionate, I'm well aware that the fans are well up for the games. But this isn't the case in EVERY game as you seem to suggest. And what the hell are you talking about the Premiership being 'bloody awful'....this all relates back to one thing, the massive amounts of pictures, the criticism etc etc, it all comes back to your blatent dislike and/or bitterness towards England. The Premiership is just as passionate and intense as it has ever been. And I should know, I watch every game possible on t.v. or at Old Trafford, so don't give me this crap about fans just sitting around and not creating an atmosphere, cus quite frankly, ure talkin shit. Even in games where there is no real rivalry, there is still a decent atmosphere and you can more often then not hear fans singing and chanting. All right, maybe not 100% of time, every second of every single match, but I don't think I'd be wrong in saying that the English are probably the most passionate nation about football in the world. Sometimes this isn't a good thing, as the fans go too far with their desire to see England or thier club team do well. But still, games in the premiership are as intense and exciting as ever they were. It may not be up to the Scottish league's standard, where you have only two big teams, with only one real rivalry, where games are dull as hell, there are no legendary players, no world status, no....anything. It's no wonder Celtic and Rangers are always begging to be allowed to join the Premiership...dream on guys, dream on!

This thread is about Championship football and its stadia in England, so all this german league nonsense doesn't belong here, and neither do you BuBomb, as you seem to have a canny ability to ruin even the most obscure threads with your blatent anti-english comments. A lot of the time it isn't direct critiscm, it is done sneakily so you can claim later that you never said anything wrong, but it is more the general fact that you never ever say anything good about anyhing English, and every time someone else says soemthing good about england, you point out all the bad areas and give facts that say other countries are better then what England have got.. Give it a rest BuBomb, you're a bitter Scot, we get it, don't keep going on about it!

[bubomb]

The Premiership is just as passionate and intense as it has ever been. And I should know, I watch every game possible on t.v. or at Old Trafford, so don't give me this crap about fans just sitting around and not creating an atmosphere, cus quite frankly, ure talkin shit. Even in games where there is no real rivalry, there is still a decent atmosphere and you can more often then not hear fans singing and chanting.

You don't have a clue!! I have been to many English games and the atmosphere is the same as it is in Scotland - utter shite. Fans just sit and watch the game and do nothing to create an atmosphere. I have been to see Man United and Liverpool numerous times and the atmosphere was shocking. Same goes for nearly all Rangers and celtic home games (apart from European games). At Old Trafford there was 67500 fans at the game I went to, and the place was so quiet with not a single fan display - it was terrible!!

Ticket prices doesn't explain why German games have an atmosphere that is literally hundreds of times better than UK games. A 50000 crowd in Germany will be have an amazing atmosphere with amazing displays and fans going nuts for 90 minutes - a 50000 crowd in the UK will have nearly 50000 fans sitting doing nothing except playing with their mobile phones!!

As for being anti-English, I am talking about Scotland as well. Most honest UK fans will admit the atmosphere at most games in the UK is shockingly bad!! You have simply shown yourself as being anti-Scottish by having a go at Scotland simply because that is where I live!! Don't dish it out if you cry when you get it back!!

Just look at the German pics!! You never see anything like that in the UK!! Admit it - you have never been to a German game, because if you had you would know that UK crowds create rubbish atmospheres compared to German league games!!

As for the The Premiership being just as passionate and intense......grow up!! I doubt even the English people on this board will back you up with that one!! It's no longer the 'FA Barclaycard Premiership', it's the 'Who will come 2nd FA Barclaycard Premiership'!!

Why are you such a 'fanboy'?

[bubomb]

This thread is about Championship football and its stadia in ENGLAND

This might come as a shock to you, but countries other than England have 2nd divisions and 2nd tier stadiums :eek2:

If I went off-topic by talking about top German division stadiums, then you also went off-topic by talking about top English division stadiums. To be honest though, I doubt you will understand or see this!!

Do you realise this is an international board and not an English stadium board? This thread is called 'Second Tier Stadia', not 'English only Second Tier Stadia'!!

[Its AlL gUUd]

Bubomb, u posted those pictures of german fans on here and then started a whole new thread on them aswell. why couldn't u just do that in the first place and leave this thread alone. hope u edit ur post and delete some of those, thats just too many.

[bubomb]

Bubomb, u posted those pictures of german fans on here and then started a whole new thread on them aswell. why couldn't u just do that in the first place and leave this thread alone. hope u edit ur post and delete some of those, thats just too many.

I actually added 1 photo. This one to be precise -

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/605/1500ok.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

some stadiums with 3 tiers at all stands
(IMO a tier should have at least 10-15 rows)


FULL ones:
Nou Camp
98,934
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Camp_Nou4.jpg
but 3rd tier at main stand is very small
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Camp_Nou6.JPG

Estádio Cícero Pompeu de Toledo (Morumbi),
80,000
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/BRA/Morumbi6.jpg


Stade de France
79,959
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/frankreich/stade_de_france/images/neue_fotos/innen_01.jpg

Twickenham Stadium
82,000 (the new stadn will have 3 tiers i think)
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Twickenham2.jpg

Georgia Dome
71,149
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/wonder/structure/images/georgia_dome_1.jpg

Allianz Arena
69,907
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Allianz_Arena3.jpg

Telstra Dome (Colonial Stadium)
55,020
http://www.fussballtempel.net/ofc/AUS/Colonial.gif

-----------------------------------------
nearly full ones
Yuba Bharati Krirangan
120,000
http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/IND/Saltlake3.gif


Kompleks Sukan Negara Stadium Nasional Bukit Jalil
100,000
http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/MYS/Bukit_Jalil2.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/MYS/Bukit_Jalil4.jpg


Wembley
90,000
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3172/wembley4fs.png

Reliant Stadium
72,000
http://www.fussballtempel.net/concacaf/USA/Reliant.jpg

Stadio delle Alpi
67,229
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ITA/Delle_Alpi_UEFA.jpeg

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75% 3 tier
Estadio Santiago Bernabéu
80,354
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Santiago_Bernabeu.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Santiago_Bernabeu6.jpg

Invesco Field at Mile High
76,125
http://www.fussballtempel.net/concacaf/USA/Invesco_Field_A2.gif

Millennium Stadium
74,500
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/WAL/Millenium_Stadium2.jpg


Estadio Centenario
65,000
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/URU/Centenario_Montevideo_A2.jpg


Estadio Mestalla,
52,469
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Mestalla.jpg

Estadio Alberto J. Armando (La Bombonera)
57,446
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/ARG/La_Bombonera4.jpg

[skaP187]

now this are stadiums! Thanks Sercan, I'll see if I have some in the old archive to put here. Should be a nice thread with loads of pictures and less discusions. The three tires excluids tiny shitty stadiums so the're all great.
eh question does the tire have to be 100% or can I smuggle some other ones in (I saw you allready did)

[MoreOrLess]

Fedex Field 90,000

http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/nfc/fedex701.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

Thanks

i hae 3 groups

the stadiums with full 3 tiers (no interruption)

the nearly one: the ones with little interruption, like this one
http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/MYS/Bukit_Jalil4.jpg

and stadums, were only 1 stand has got 2 tiers

[www.sercan.de]

looll
how can i forget FedEx field :D
thanks MoreOrLess
its even a full one
:cheers:
BTW
i think the capacity is 86,484 ?!!

[skaP187]

Betis Sevilla (50/75%)
cap. +/- 55.000

http://i6.tinypic.com/1551kib.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/1551kqs.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/1551mib.jpg

[thesmallprint]

MCG

http://dean.thehoddlegrid.net/IMG_00105.JPG

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/oceania/australia/victoria/melbourne_cricket2.jpg

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[eddyk]

Some of those have breaks in the stands.

I may aswell say the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, UK

[www.sercan.de]

eddy
i put millenium in to "75%"

MCG is a full 3 tier
ok, there are some breaks, but not so huge ones
its a 99% one :D

[skaP187]

Can I put da Luz on? please a what the heck here it goes!

Da luz, Lissabon

http://i5.tinypic.com/1552zgp.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/15530xy.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/15531jc.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

i am not the admin/owner of the site skaP187 :D

My Opinion is that the business tier at da luz is not a "real" tier.
its to small
it has got only 8 rows
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos/4anelluzescobertura.jpg

[skaP187]

I was thinking about that to, but then again it has 4 tires , so I thought I'd smuggel this one in

[www.sercan.de]

yeah :D
we should ban you :D

mmhh.that can be all??!!!

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

Well, seeing as they're very close to completion, I though I may as well add:

Emirates Stadium (Ashburton Grove) - 60,000

http://www.**************************/emirates9002.jpg

And new Wembley - 90,000 ...I think this might actually have 4 tiers, but it's hard to tell:

http://www.wembleystadium.com/images/presspackimages/66gatype.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5900/wembley33js.jpg[/URL]

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1218/wembley74cd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:cheers:

[www.sercan.de]

thanks to that pic
http://64.4.51.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/Wembley8.jpg?&msg=263A6176-A77B-4B48-AE31-52E3210BA5CF&start=0&len=2783278&mimepart=10&curmbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&b=836d8a74e2adae11dba151ccefe931a0&disk=10.1.106.204_d482&login=eddykay&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=ab9c855801c6953be09dd62ced30835d1a64235d93a39a88
we can say
that Wembley has got full 3 tiers

[Durbsboi]

Well, seeing as they're very close to completion, I though I may as well add:

Emirates Stadium (Ashburton Grove) - 60,000

http://www.**************************/emirates9002.jpg

Someone already posted that stadium, ............oh wait, that was Da Luz :lol: :jk:

Please note that that was a joke, please dont take it seriously & send hate mail to me

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

^^ Why don't you post your e-mail address Durbsboi, so all the Arsenal fans can tell you personally how much they appreciate your nice bit of humour? ;) :D

[skaP187]

Comon guys, these are three tire stadiums no? let me check fo's'thing else

[skaP187]

Haha I found one in Belgium! in Belgium for God sake,sake? you right it like that or is this the japenese stuff, well hell, here goes Standaard Liege/Luik
I think the cap is about 30.000 (and yeah I am Dutch, and we don't have any, I am thinking about Rotterdam but I'll show that one later and let you guys deside, but first..... Standaard Liege (I like this stadium bye the way, it's steep!, and about 75 % 3 tires

http://i5.tinypic.com/155kpr9.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/155ks3c.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/155kt43.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/155kv3b.jpg
From the outside it's ugly though and orange (that's Dutch, which makes me smile again! hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargghhhhhhhh)
http://i6.tinypic.com/155kw8m.jpg
I think this stadium, with the Anderlecht stadium is the best that Belgium has to offer, but don't let this little coment get you going of topic

[skaP187]

and a little note for Montpeleir in France, I think the cap is a bit more then 30.000
25 % triple
http://i5.tinypic.com/155l1t1.jpg
I said little didn't I ? but I like it!

[Aka]

My Opinion is that the business tier at da luz is not a "real" tier.
its to small
it has got only 8 rows
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos/4anelluzescobertura.jpg

Yeah? So why the f... you included Wembley? It's the same thing.
And that's not a business tier; actually, Luz - and not "da Luz", that's like saying "of Light" all the time - has 4 tiers, being the 3rd the one that you might say is a business one.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1218/wembley74cd.jpg

[godblessbotox]

i always loved this stadium,


Invesco Field at Mile High
76,125
http://www.fussballtempel.net/concacaf/USA/Invesco_Field_A2.gif

[skaP187]

Well as I am Dutch I'll try to smuggle this one in but yeah I know not realy triple, So this round is for you Belgiums people (Belgiums?????)
Rotterdam, Feyenoord stadion 'de Kuip'
51.000 and a little bit

http://i6.tinypic.com/155l8wl.jpg

[40Acres]

Kyle Field -- College Station, Texas -- 82,600

http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Big12/TexasA&M/aerial.jpg

http://www.chron.com/content/news/photos/01/09/23/a&m.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

Yeah? So why the f... you included Wembley? It's the same thing.
And that's not a business tier; actually, Luz - and not "da Luz", that's like saying "of Light" all the time - has 4 tiers, being the 3rd the one that you might say is a business one.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1218/wembley74cd.jpg
da Luz Business tier has got 8 rows
Wembley business tier has got 15 ;)

[skaP187]

That's one crazy massive stadium and I like it!

[skaP187]

da Luz Business tier has got 8 rows
Wembley business tier has got 15 ;)

A so now i know why you said 15 rows in the beginning of this thread, smartass :) Still think Luz and Emirates are three tire stadiums though.

[www.sercan.de]

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/NED/De_Kuip2.jpg
ok, we can say
that de kuip has got 3 tiers :D

Kyle Field is 50% D:

[skaP187]

This ones for the boys from SA
Durban (will this one go down for the new one? I gues so)
http://i5.tinypic.com/155mjax.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/155mjwm.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

A so now i know why you said 15 rows in the beginning of this thread, smartass :) Still think Luz and Emirates are three tire stadiums though.
as i said before
its my personal definition :D

because there are many stadiums with small tiers :D

the main stand of FB has got also a Business Stand
maybe therefore i don't i say +15 roes = tier :D

http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02022006stad002.jpg

http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02022006stad003.jpg

but this
http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02basin3.JPG
http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/18082005basin002.jpg
is not a tier for me :D

[skaP187]

I don't mind if the rings are small, I just like rings!! put in as many as you can in one stadium and it looks impressive for sure !

[skaP187]

as i said before
its my personal definition :D

because there are many stadiums with small tiers :D

the main stand of FB has got also a Business Stand
maybe therefore i don't i say +15 roes = tier :D

http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02022006stad002.jpg

http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02022006stad003.jpg

but this
http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/02basin3.JPG
http://www.fenerbahce.org/pic_lib/18082005basin002.jpg
is not a tier for me :D

With this one I follow you to be hounest, it does not look like a tire... hard to define. yep life's a bitch

[www.sercan.de]

no
it will stay skaP187

but sometimes its too much :D
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/PER/Monumental_U7.jpg
^^^
so
must be the one with the most tiers :D

[www.sercan.de]

4 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands.jpg

7 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands2.jpg

:D

[jamesinclair]

How about an old one (but still operates)

Name: Estadio Major Antônio Couto Pereira
Club: Coritiba FC
Inauguration: 1932
Capacity: 37,000 seats


http://www.stadiumguide.com/coutopereira2.jpg

http://www.stadiumguide.com/coutopereira4.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/brazil/parana/curitiba_pereira1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Couto_pereira_stadium.jpg

[skaP187]

no
it will stay skaP187

but sometimes its too much :D
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/PER/Monumental_U7.jpg
^^^
so
must be the one with the most tiers :D

I think this is in Peru, or Columbia no? to be hounest I like this stadium. It has been build with balls!!! but this is more like appartmentflats aroun a stadium, instead of true tires, I'll have to give that to you. But atleast it's not an average stadium! :cheers:

[www.sercan.de]

How about an old one (but still operates)

Name: Estadio Major Antônio Couto Pereira
Club: Coritiba FC
Inauguration: 1932
Capacity: 37,000 seats


http://www.stadiumguide.com/coutopereira2.jpg

http://www.stadiumguide.com/coutopereira4.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/brazil/parana/curitiba_pereira1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Couto_pereira_stadium.jpg
i know this one
but it looks like
that only 50% is 3 tier??!!!

its in Peru skaP187

[Pointy Haired Boss]

River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires

[Mo Rush]

4 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands.jpg

7 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands2.jpg

:D

not really but that standing area is no more. they have replaced it with seating..but capacity is still around 48,000...and NO this stadium will not be used in 2010

[Mo Rush]

This ones for the boys from SA
Durban (will this one go down for the new one? I gues so)
http://i5.tinypic.com/155mjax.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/155mjwm.jpg
no this stadium wont be demolished...an old stadium adjacent to this stadium will be demolished..its an old athletics stadium

[Durbsboi]

4 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands.jpg

7 tiers?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands2.jpg

:D
Please dont post shit in this forum
thank you

[www.sercan.de]

shit?
why shit?
i like that stadium

[skaP187]

yeah me too! it's crazy looking (the more rings, the more impressive) where is it, I don't know this one

[Durbsboi]

Its in cape town, crappy stadium, go there, then you would know what I mean, plus the team that plays there is shit too :D

ooh & the rivalry begins! CURRIE CUP 2006!
GO SHARKS GO!

[skaP187]

Ajax Capetown?Now I am Dutch so... (''ik nie weet nie',bad atempt speaking Afrikaans sorry ) but not an Ajax fan so I'll believe you on your wurd (there is not some kind of rivelary between Durban and Capetown that would make some secret agenda going on here no?

[Genç]

Do the Estadio Azteca, Mexico or the San Siro count as 3-tier stadia?

[SkyLerm]

San Siro is a 75% 3 tier stadium isn't it?

[SkyLerm]

By the way the Camp Nou's main stand haven't a third tier with 15 rows at least.

[www.sercan.de]

By the way the Camp Nou's main stand haven't a third tier with 15 rows at least.
thanks, i could not fine a pic of it

Azteca has got only 2 stands
but the 2nd one is reallly big :D

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/mexico/estadio_azteca/330.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/concacaf/MEX/Azteca5.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/mexico/estadio_azteca/250.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/mexico/estadio_azteca/120.jpg


San Siro is like azteca
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/italien/guiseppe_meazza/280.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/italien/guiseppe_meazza/290.jpg

[SkyLerm]

I really liked all those pics :cheers:

[www.sercan.de]

as skylerm already said
3 tier at main stand is really poor

only 6-8 rows
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8984/scrittastadio6tz.jpg

http://barca.sportenter.co.il/Camp/Gallery/noucamp0002.jpg

maybe the highest stand in the world?
http://www2.svenskafans.com/barcelona/bildarkivet/AntonNilsson/campnou2.jpg

[skaP187]

In Azteca and San Siro you can see small tires in the main second tire, but I guess this does not count?

[Quintana]

Completely offtopic but it is called a tier, not a tire

[Durbsboi]

Ajax Capetown?Now I am Dutch so... (''ik nie weet nie',bad atempt speaking Afrikaans sorry ) but not an Ajax fan so I'll believe you on your wurd (there is not some kind of rivelary between Durban and Capetown that would make some secret agenda going on here no?

No, the stadium is used by Ajax Cape Town, but its home to Western Province Rugby Union, & today is the start of our nation rugby tournament, yes there is rivalry between the teams .

GO SHARKS GO!

[www.sercan.de]

In Azteca and San Siro you can see small tires in the main second tire, but I guess this does not count?

IMO not :D

i think we need a definition :D

[skaP187]

IMO not :D

i think we need a definition :D

Hell no, just let the pics keep on roling in sercan! I like this thread, only great stadiums so far!

[skaP187]

Durbsboi likes one not so much, but well it ain't a perfect world is it? (still waiting for mor pics of the stadium in Durban Durbsboi!!!)

[www.sercan.de]

Durbsboi likes one not so much, but well it ain't a perfect world is it? (still waiting for mor pics of the stadium in Durban Durbsboi!!!)
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands3.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Newlands4.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

new one for Shaktar
http://shakhtar.com/fc/foto/ns/21_10_05/016.jpg

http://www.terrikon.dn.ua/today/images/new_shakhtyor/level7.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

this one is also crazy
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/3572/229659561AXXhVf_fs.jpg

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5796/168214984MkWFJN_fs.jpg

[CharlieP]

That is one ugly stadium!

[SkyLerm]

I like so much new stadium for Shaltar, it's so fine and elegant ;)

[NeilF]

Croke Park - Dublin (82,000)

3/4 of the sides at least. Pity about Hill 16, but I still don't think there's room outside the stadium to build and I'm not sure if the GAA have the money / even want to redevelop it anyway.

http://www.st-vincents-toronto-gaa.com/images/2002%20Season/Croke_Park_c.jpg
http://emeraldclean.server101.com/images/CROKE_PARk.jpg

New Lansdowne Road - Dublin - (55,000)

Given that they're spending something like 300m Euro on this, the North End is fucking awful. Damn those rich people and their house owning! Hopefully before building starts, they'll have a brain wave that the bus-shelter at that end will acts as an atmosphere leak and do the thing properly.

http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2005/000204b.jpg
http://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/images/191005-Lansdowne.jpg

[USS Yankee]

http://www.halcy0n.com/photography/images/Yankee_Stadium/stadium.jpg
Yankee Stadium is a 3 tier stadium. Capacity of 57,500.

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Stadiums/MLB/Images/Shea_Stadium3.jpg
Shea Stadium is also 3 tiered. Capacity of 55,600.

http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/nfc/giants101.jpg
Giants Stadium - 3 tiers as well, holds just under 78,000.

[Bigmac1212]

this one is also crazy
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/3572/229659561AXXhVf_fs.jpg

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5796/168214984MkWFJN_fs.jpg

That's Chicago's Soldier Field. I agree.

[Bigmac1212]

no
it will stay skaP187

but sometimes its too much :D
http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/PER/Monumental_U7.jpg
^^^
so
must be the one with the most tiers :D

For a while, I thought, "What have they done to Lambeau Field?"

[www.sercan.de]

loolll
i totally forget Giants stadium :D
sorry :D

the 2nd tier is very small
but seems to have +15 tiers

[eddyk]

Lets find the smallest 3 tier stadium we can (capacity)

with at least I dunno, 4/5 rows to a tier.

[www.sercan.de]

maybe the one in Liege?
or dou you mean a full one?

[skaP187]

LA dodgers, pretty impressive...
http://i5.tinypic.com/15gug69.jpg

small pics though

[skaP187]

But yep I think the smallest is Liege, Stanferd Bridge was also small (not any more) and only 50% three tier

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

London 2012 Olympic stadium :D

http://www.london2012.org/NR/rdonlyres/F58EA09C-E8A5-4D7C-949B-C76D440CE9AA/0/stadium_internal.jpg

http://www.smoothe.co.uk/london_2012/stadium_ext.jpg

:)

:cheers:

[www.sercan.de]

is not full
but nearly
thanks

[Quintana]

Luigi Ferraris in Genua has one 3 tiers stand, the other three have two tiers:
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/italien/luigi_ferraris/140.jpg

A 4 tiers stand at Philips Stadion :D :
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/niederlande/philips_stadion/210.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

should we post now satdiums with less than 75% 3 tier stands? :D

[skaP187]

yep
75% minimum sounds allright to me, maybe another thread about 'stands with minimum three levels' for these type of stadiums because also these stands are very nice.
Maybe 66% so we can still get some nice baseball stadiums in this thread, sometimes these go very high...

[invincible]

Here's another of the MCG: (4 tiers in the Great Southern Stand, 3 in the new Northern Stand)

http://chuq.net/pics/qld/MCGPano.jpg
Photo by Chuq from OzScrapers.

[rantanamo]

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9645/indexstock5538662mw.th.jpg (http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexstock5538662mw.jpg)

[Bigmac1212]

Would Sun Devil Stadium count, with a press box on one side?

http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/asu/trads/images/stadium-full.jpg

[rantanamo]

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1674/231182894udibpoph1vg.jpg

[rantanamo]

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4435/cbsfull3bi.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/728/38430987mhquzlfs5np.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8942/182902181jffsqafs9qh.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4932/116427466cryyekfs0oz.jpg

[rantanamo]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8127/190370203kyqlyofsresize4gj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8756/193244737plzjbmfsresize3cs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[rantanamo]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8310/1190th.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1228/1186st.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Skybean]

Toronto's Skydome
http://static.flickr.com/24/54727107_94fd9a3797_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/28/51493944_cf30bee6c0_o.jpg

[asohn]

Shea Stadium, New York City

4 Tiers

http://www.allenproducts.com/Photos/Shea/Shea_stadium1.jpg

http://www.ballparktour.com/Shea_Showcase_New.jpg

[thesmallprint]

I was wondering what the biggest single tier in the world would be, i reckon it would have to be kaiserslautern, it has at least 60 rows. Maybe some of the american bowls (rose bowl, la coliseum, michigan the big house) could beat it though

????

http://www.1fck.de/gallery/d/49296-3/IMG_3069.JPG
kaiserslautern
http://members.cox.net/dgeerdes/images/pics/Big%20House%2004.jpg
big house

[Abdi]

http://www.icdev.co.uk/expats/desktops/newcastle/stjamesparka1280.jpg

WHAT ABOUT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT OF THIS PIC

[BrizzyChris]

Thats 2 tiers.

[tv123]

the Westfalen stadium has a monster stand
http://i75.imagethrust.com/i/587299/nvtelen.jpg (http://www.imagethrust.com)

[vertigosufferer]

How does the top tier of the New Wembley match up?

[www.sercan.de]

IMO
its Michigan Stadium

http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/0203/June30_03/img/030630_NewTurf-18c.jpg

[Malso]

the old Hampden park ?....or one of those Yank Stadiums

[40Acres]

Not sure, but i think the Rose Bowl has more rows than Michigan Stadium

[GASpedal]

Olympiastadion Munich has more than 80 rows. I once sat in the last one on the top... may have been row 81 - at least that's what one of my old tickets says that I could find right now.
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/deutschland/olympiastadion_muenchen/images/foto_10.jpg

[40Acres]

Olympiastadion Munich has more than 80 rows. I once sat in the last one on the top... may have been row 81 - at least that's what one of my old tickets says that I could find right now.
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/deutschland/olympiastadion_muenchen/images/foto_10.jpg

Whoa! Interesing perspective on those seats. Are they painted green or what?

This looks to be about the same number of rows as the Rose Bowl as well.

EDIT: just looked it up. the RB has 77 rows. Still not bigger in terms of rows as Munich's

[Calvin W]

Looking online for tickets, Michigan Stadium has seats available up to row 90 that I could find.

[mikeeagle]

I still find Dortmunds Südtribüne most impressive. Would you want to be the goalie of the visiting team? There are 25,000 Dortmund fans standing there.

http://www.arikah.net/commons/en/8/8a/Suedtribuene.jpg

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_dortmund/saison20052006/liga_29/130.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_dortmund/saison20052006/liga_10/150.jpg

[The Concerned Potato]

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg


WINNER!

[vivayo]

what about the biggest upper tier,,, maybe estadio Azteca can be a contender, plus the upper tier, is the same height all around the stadium

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7342/estadioazteca73zp.jpg
http://homepages.mty.itesm.mx/al224065/estadio_azteca1.jpg

[Wezza]

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg Thats insane!!

[Loranga]

Are there any relatively high quality videos of Südtribune? :)

[Abdi]

what about the biggest upper tier,,, maybe estadio Azteca can be a contender, plus the upper tier, is the same height all around the stadium

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7342/estadioazteca73zp.jpg
http://homepages.mty.itesm.mx/al224065/estadio_azteca1.jpg

wow noce stadium whats it called.

[Abdi]

http://www.btinternet.com/~c.beirne/images/nou_camp_north_goal.jpg

[Abdi]

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/albums/userpics/10001/esatadio_santiago_bernabeu1.jpg

THIS ONE IS HUGE

[matherto]

which ones, the top tiers? cause none of the tiers on either of the Nou Camp or Bernabeu are as big as Michigan, or the Westfalenstadions

[www.sercan.de]

yes
its about only one tier
Michigan has got 90 rows
IMO this has to be the biggest

[mikeeagle]

Are there any relatively high quality videos of Südtribune? :)

I've been searching, too. I only found low quality videos:

Low quality video of Suedtribuene in Dortmund (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vQA_0wDupQ&search=dortmund%20s%C3%BCdtrib%C3%BCne)

Try to watch a Dortmund game on TV. German Bundesliga ;) .

[www.sercan.de]

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_dortmund/saison20042005/liga_34/110_ph.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/templates/fanfotos_fussball/deutschland/borussia_dortmund/saison20042005/liga_34/120_ph.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_fans/index.php?template=fanfotos_fussball&action=fotos&id=2034

[The Concerned Potato]

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg Thats insane!!

should be called the Nosebleedstadion :runaway:

[Toadboy]

The largest single tier structure in the UK -

http://www.portugoal.net/images/stadiums/AnfieldKop091005.jpg

Not sure about number of rows etc, 13,000 seats on a single goal end stand though.

Dortmund is a beast, football grounds should be developed like the Westfalen, all tight corners, close to the pitch, dark and brooding.

[vivayo]

wow noce stadium whats it called.

its the Estadio Azteca ( Azteck Stadium) in Mexico City, cap. 105,000 all seater, used to be 114,500 before renovations.

the only one to host 2 world cup finals, plus 1968 olimpic games, and several other international games

[christoph]

How could Germany ever lose in Westphalenstadium against Italy?

[Quintana]

Because Italy was so much better. No matter how imposing, no crowd could have changed that.

[Carlos_"U"]

and Lima, Perú??

Monumental "U" Stadium:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1627/trinchera13uq1.jpg

[wearethefuture]

Maracana or Rose Bowl?

[Martuh]

Dortmund wins by all means!

[matherto]

The largest single tier structure in the UK -

http://www.portugoal.net/images/stadiums/AnfieldKop091005.jpg



It's like a who's who of the unemployment list........





:jk:

[rantanamo]

Wouldn't Michigan Stadium win this, being that the whole stadium is one big tier?

[Wezza]

I'd like to know how quickly that stand at Dortmund could be evacuated in an emergency!! :)

[Durbsboi]

I agree with toadboy

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/kopbuilt.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/anfield20road20liverpool.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/3907269.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/DSCF0152.jpg

But this ones quite big too : Mastella, Valencia

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/prMestalla_2.jpg

& I'm talking about the middle blue part, but then again you meant single tired, neva mind

[skaP187]

Didn't Leed Utd for a long time have the largest stand in the world? or was that about the roof?

[skaP187]

I mean this

http://i2.tinypic.com/261dxjt.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/261dxrc.jpg

[skaP187]

Okay I am full of shit, in my fantasy (...?) it was bigger

[Toadboy]

Leeds had the biggest roof for a year or so until Man United built a bigger one.

The Mestalla is immense and the small upper tier scares the shite out of you.

Wezza, the modern stadia in Europe is developed with safety right at the top of the list, the number of exits, access to the playing surface, under stand circulation, gangways etc., I'd be suprised if you couldn't empty the Westfalen Kop in 2/3 minutes or less.

[www.sercan.de]

Michigan is the winner
it has got 90 rows

Dortmund Südtribüne hasn't got 90 rows

[thesmallprint]

& I'm talking about the middle blue part, but then again you meant single tired, neva mind
Nah i meant tier as in any single tier, however the biggest one would probably be from a single tiered stadium

[Abdi]

WHATS ABOUT THIS ONE


http://adamwalton.co.uk/images/20060114anfield.jpg

[Meister2004]

How many rows has the Südtribüne in Dortmund?

[canarywondergod]

How many rows has the Südtribüne in Dortmund?

none they're standing places, well at one end i believe


EDIT:grammar

[CharlieP]

Michigan Stadium has just one tier, with a capacity of 107,501 - surely this has to be one of the largest in the world.

[40Acres]

yeah, pretty sure there isn't a bigger tier than this one:

Michigan Stadium:

http://www.gregdooley.com/images/2005/q1/stadium%20-%20overview.jpg

[Durbsboi]

WHATS ABOUT THIS ONE


http://adamwalton.co.uk/images/20060114anfield.jpg

How many rows does the KOP have?

[CharlieP]

WHATS ABOUT THIS ONE


http://adamwalton.co.uk/images/20060114anfield.jpg

Capacity: 12,409.

[CharlieP]

How many rows has the Südtribüne in Dortmund?

I don't know about the number of rows, but in standing mode it has a capacity of 25,000.

[Macca-GC]

Because Italy was so much better. No matter how imposing, no crowd could have changed that.

Oh, you're talking about the Italian diving team, yeah they're so talented. They can dive, they can fake, they can act, pity they can't play football.

I'd like to know how quickly that stand at Dortmund could be evacuated in an emergency!!

A stadium that I would be worried about in an emergency is Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane. It takes 15 minutes to get out and that's on the bottom tier. The problem is that there aren't any exits on the Eastern or Western sides of the stadium, so you run into a massive crowd moving through the corridor as you come out of your aisle and then the crowds from the two corridors, plus the crowd coming up from the end aisles plus the crowds coming down from the upper tiers all converge at the ends, causing chaos. Serious issues there i think.

[Quintana]

I wasn't amused about the way the Italians beat Australia but to be honest, they played a great game against Germany and fully deserved to win that game (and they didn't even had to cheat for once).

[Martuh]

So it's between two now:

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg

vs

http://www.ticketcity.com/images/venue/michiganstadium.gif

[Malso]

or maybe this, this is the Rose Bowl; i love this stadium
http://f7.yahoofs.com/users/44cbd3dbze83cc40f/a2e1re2/__sr_/97a6re2.jpg?phYuu.EBIPPW2KHJ

[GASpedal]

Oh I love this board... I mean, we practically cleared that topic on page 1. That's why discussions take up to 600 posts. I'm still waiting for another Spurs vs. Arsenal vs. ManU vs. Chelsea battle in here. ;)

Rose Bowl was already mentioned there. And it is clear, that there is at least one stadium with a bigger tier.

I guess it must be Bristol, concerning total capacity... and Michigan stadium could have more rows but is smaller in capacity.

http://www.speedtv.com/_assets/library/img/large/59789_51233557.jpg

[rantanamo]

Texas Motor Speedway's single tier grandstand is larger than Bristol's single tier bowl.

Texas Motor Speedway: 154,861
Bristol Motor Speedway: 147,000

http://www.tx330.com/Racing/TMS/030607/030607_TMS%20074.jpg

[rantanamo]

Texas Motor Speedway's single tier grandstand is larger than Bristol's single tier bowl.

Texas Motor Speedway: 154,861
Bristol Motor Speedway: 147,000

http://www.tx330.com/Racing/TMS/030607/030607_TMS%20074.jpg

[GASpedal]

It says 160,000 on the official webpage: http://www.bristolmotorspeedway.com/track%5Finfo/track%5Ffacts/

[Calvin W]

I was thinking of Bristol, but figured that certain forumers would state that Race Tracks are not sports facilities as auto racing is not a sport!
Does not Martinsville have a huge stand in one end section?

[GASpedal]

I was thinking of Bristol, but figured that certain forumers would state that Race Tracks are not sports facilities as auto racing is not a sport!

I personally would never agree with that statement, for good reasons.
I think that discussion would lead too far and is a matter of personal taste. ;)
Despite that: The topic is "biggest tier", that could be any stadium-like structure with people on it.

[Calvin W]

Yeah I agree.
Texas grandstand may be bigger capacity wise but which is taller? I would say Bristol is.

[delmaule]

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg


WINNER!

que impresionante se ve las tribunas

[Calvin W]

Here is your winner!

Bristol, Tennessee 167000 seats on a half mile oval. Anyone have any info on how tall these stands are? :eek2:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6366/bms4webrl9.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2847/bristolrace3aug2003mz0.jpg

[rantanamo]

I'm talking about single tiers. Bristol is clearly not one big 167,000 single tier. You can see that the end stand is seperate and there is also a second tier. CBS Sportsline lists the grandstand(a single tier that covers 3/4 of the bowl) as 147,000. The grandstand at Daytona is actually listed over 200,000 as is Indianapolis, but they have two tiers. The total capacity for Texas Motor Speedway is well over 200,000, but the main grandstand is listed by CBS Sportsline at 154,861. There's also a huge grandstand on the backstretch. As for which is taller, just look at the pics. TMS is likely taller too. Bristol looks taller because its compact, but look at the pic and how small the cars look in comparison to the TMS stand.

[Calvin W]

rantanamo seeing how as "thesmallprint" is the originator of this thread, it should be his definition of the largest single tier. As for Bristol not being a continous tier have you ever been their? There is no gap between any of the stands.

So once again THE WINNER!

[The Concerned Potato]

i still think the Westfalenstadion has the biggest tier

[rantanamo]

rantanamo seeing how as "thesmallprint" is the originator of this thread, it should be his definition of the largest single tier. As for Bristol not being a continous tier have you ever been their? There is no gap between any of the stands.

So once again THE WINNER!

Yes, I've been there, and Kansas and Kentucky and Texas. Hope to get to Talladega soon. That end is seperate and is raised a bit from the rest of the bowl. The rest of the stand is what seats 147,000. Even it is a piecemeal. That end totally has its own entrances.

After looking at the origination of the thread, the answer would be confusing. Stand on one side that includes all tiers? Single tier? I'm confused. Daytona's front tri-oval stand seats 167,000. I didn't include it because it has 3 tiers.

[CharlieP]

i still think the Westfalenstadion has the biggest tier

How on earth can the Südtribüne be the biggest tier when it's only one end of a stadium, and stadia like the Rose Bowl, Michigan Stadium etc. have a tier that wraps all the way around the pitch?!

If the question was about the deepest tier, then the Südtribüne might be in with a shout, though I'd throw in the big shallow end stand (East Stand) at Eden Park in Auckland, which seems to go back forever...

[nyrmetros]

This still leaves me slack jawed.

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg

[Pelha]

This still leaves me slack jawed.

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg

:drool:

[acela]

anyone have any photos from the stand towards the pitch?

[www.sercan.de]

form the northstand
http://www.bvbfans-halle.de/Sued_1.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

anyone have any photos from the stand towards the pitch?

http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/img/bilderseiten/page_1038884/007.jpg

[XCRunner]

This still leaves me slack jawed.

http://www.nhlarenas.ch/Pics/diverses/Dortmund%20036.jpg
Holy shit, that's incredible.

[JacobRit]

the one England played in last night in Skopje Macedonia looked pretty big! but maybe that was just in contrast to the three smaller stands

[Quintana]

I think it has about 50 rows of seating. Not bad, but not huge either. It is the steepness of the stand that makes it look so big:

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/mazedonien/gradski_stadion5/110.jpg

The other three stands only have about 10 rows of seating.

[Verbal Kint]

Can anyone think of any stadia which have different number of tiers at different sides which flow seamlessly into one another.
eg
3 tiers into 2
2 tiers into 1.

An example of how not to do this is at Stamford Bridge, where

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Stamford_Bridge_Chelsea_FC_1128881992.jpg

Are there any stadia which take stands of different heights and flawlessly integrate them?
I'm talking with particular reference to tiers of different hights and/or gradients.

Any help would be much appreciated

[canarywondergod]

the Nou Camp?

http://www.uefa-archiv.de/Stadien/Barcelona.jpg

[Quintana]

How about Estadio Olympico de la Cartuja in Seville?

http://www.turismo.sevilla.org/imagenes/album_fotos/galeria/15_5.jpg

http://www.galeon.com/juliodominguez/2005/esoca1.jpg

[miptag]

three years back i sat in the 95th row of michigan stadium and there were still a couple rows behind where i was was.

[Canadian Chocho]

http://web.mlsnet.com/images/2006/09/20/UABO8sch.jpg

[NeilF]

Some might consider it cheating, and I suppose it is, but;

Stade Omnisports Ahmadou Ahidjo, Cameroon

http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/CMR/Omnisports_Yaounde4.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/CMR/Omnisports_Yaounde.jpg

Murrayfield isn't a bad example of a well done change in pitch / height of tiers.

Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh, Scotland

http://www.firstfoot.com/Tartan%20Army/images/murrayfield.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/7f/Murrayfield.jpg

And stadia like the K.C. Stadium in Hull also do a pretty good job of having an extra tier on one side that blends in well. It could be done to be unnoticable, but not so in Hull's case, as they've chosen to keep about 8 rows at the ends of the second tier.

K.C. Stadium, Hull, England.

http://www.teamtalk.com/Images/37733.jpg
http://www.fusiongroup.uk.com/Cas%20Studies_files/image002.jpg
http://www.ciderspace.co.uk/photos/grounds/hull-main-stand.jpg

Other stadia do a very similiar thing, and at times better, and at times, not so well;

Hampden Park, Glasgow, Scotland

http://www.thesonsofscotland.co.uk/images/hampden%20park/Hampden%207.jpg

City of Manchester Stadium, Manchester, England

http://www.rightvenues.com/images/venues/1125932796_city_of_manchester_stadium.jpg

Telstra Stadium, Sydney, Australia

http://www.patrickellul.com/mmfiles/footie%20at%20telstra%20stadium.JPG

Reekbok Stadium, Bolton, England

http://www.euro-goal.info/eurox/england/images/stadiums/a/reebok%20stadium1.jpg

While none are really perfect, they all show the general idea.

[CharlieP]

Murrayfield isn't a bad example of a well done change in pitch / height of tiers.

http://www.firstfoot.com/Tartan%20Army/images/murrayfield.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/7f/Murrayfield.jpg

Are you mad? Murrayfield has about the most awkward-looking joins between old and new stands that I've ever seen!

[Irish Blood English Heart]

No Old Trafford is worse!

[Verbal Kint]

Are you mad? Murrayfield has about the most awkward-looking joins between old and new stands that I've ever seen!

I disagree. Thats actually the best example of what I was talking about. The two stands are joined as seamlessly as possible I think. Many other examples have got an extra tier here and there, but Murrayfield has 2 stands with 2 tiers of differing heights, but manages to join them. Doesnt look great, but it is as seamless as could be imo.

Cheers for that Neil F, I hadn't thought of Murrayfield.

[NeilF]

Are you mad? Murrayfield has about the most awkward-looking joins between old and new stands that I've ever seen!

I think you're the mad one. Compare the joins at Murrayfield with the joins in other stadia where two stands of different sizes join;

Riverside Stadium, Middlesborough, England;

http://www.yfh45.dial.pipex.com/middles30.jpg

Westfalenstadion, Dortmund, Germany;

http://blog.nrwspd.de/archives/Westfalenstadion_innen.jpg

Millenium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales;

http://search.teamtalk.com/Images/31175.jpg

Old Trafford, Manchester, England;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/SquirrelOverlord/jt/2006-10-14pano06.jpg

The Valley, Charlton, England;

http://home.skysports.com/images/stadia/45.jpg

In actual fact, while not perfect, given that there is a pretty large size difference in the bottom tier at Murrayfield, the lower bowl is pretty much seemless, and the upper tier is only noticable because of the step, which, to be fair, is only there to maximise capacity. In fact, given the relative complexities of Murrayfield, including a different slope angle on the upper West Stand to the rest of the upper tier, I think it is a rather impressive job. They've managed it with a step, as opposed to the walls that are so familiar elsewhere.

It's also important to remember the evolution of Murrayfield in general. If you look at the picture below, you can see that what is currently the smaller stand was originally built without corners (you can see working being done on the corners in this picture). As such, it would easily have been possible to step the corners around into the smaller stand at the bottom of the upper tier, as it does the top of the upper tier. This would have lost out on about 1000+ seats, however. Honestly, I think Murrayfield does a fantastic job and, in like a lot of other stadia, has the excuse that it's evolved and wasn't built for purpose, like the Millenium Stadium, for example.

http://www.fullflow.com/images/casestudies/Murrayfield.jpg

[Isaac Newell]

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Borussia-Park.jpg

Moenchengladbach

The Glazers could do that at Old Trafford and triple box capacity.

[canarywondergod]

The Valley, Charlton, England;

http://home.skysports.com/images/stadia/45.jpg


err mate, a slight hitch in that otherwise highly informative post, that's not the valley, that's carrow road, home of norwich city

[Verbal Kint]

The "real" Valley, Charlton, England

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/charlton30.jpg

[NeilF]

err mate, a slight hitch in that otherwise highly informative post, that's not the valley, that's carrow road, home of norwich city

Haha, so it is. That shows me for being in a rush and trusting what google said. I just knew it was the corners in The Valley I was looking for, googled it and that pic came up. D'oh.

The Valley actually looks distinctly better than I remembered it doing.

[eli]

Estadio Ruiz de Lopera (Sevilla):
http://realbetis.football.fr/images/estadio.jpg http://deportes.tvn.cl/imagenes/f_espan_estadio_betis.jpg

http://www.exploreseville.com/photoalbum/betis/images/IMG_1162.jpg

Estadio Mestalla (Valencia). http://fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Mestalla.html Mestalla is a madness, it seems as my little brother design it:
http://fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Mestalla.jpg

http://fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Mestalla3.jpg

Bernabéu (Madrid): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=275592&page=4:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7046/17palcosvip9cm4ix.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5844/15bernabeucelta1411mb8jq.jpg

[CharlieP]

I take it all back - when I said "awkward-looking" I really meant "ugly". Yes, I agree that they have joined the East Stand to the two ends without any abrupt transitions, but I really can't stand the way the roof curves round and the sudden drop at the front of the upper tier.

In the ideal world in my head, the SRU should remove the sprint track, move the pitch west, and then replace the East Stand with a copy of the West, giving a uniform upper tier all the way round and a capacity of 75-80,000...

[Wezza]

Lol, Estadio Mestalla is crazy.

[NeilF]

In the ideal world in my head, the SRU should remove the sprint track, move the pitch west, and then replace the East Stand with a copy of the West, giving a uniform upper tier all the way round and a capacity of 75-80,000...

See, I actually get the feeling that this was what the original plan was, which is why the spring track is there in the first place, but also because of where the pitch access roads have been built into the stadium at the corner. More than that, it is the larger of the two stands (honestly, I forget which) that has most of the corporate entertainment etc. in it. I think the long-term goal was to build a uniform stadium

At the same time, even with the relative success of Scottish rugby over the past season or so, Murrayfield is just about the right size just now, and an increase of 10 - 15,000 is very likely to be wasted much of the time, except maybe in England games. Rebuilding not only one stand, but also the corners, the roof a lot of readjustment work on the North and South stands in those corners is a lot of time and money to spend and a significant drop in capacity while the work is completed, for a relatively small gain in capacity that wouldn't often be used.

I actually really like the way Murrayfield looks, even with the drop in the corners to the smaller stand. "Character" is a much overused word on this forum, especially since Murrayfield was mostly a newbuild that opened in 1994, but at the same time, as I've said, I feel the way it's been done at Murrayfield is some of the best work around (and of a design that could easily have been replicated at Old Trafford by dropping the ends of the third tier of the North Stand) and, especially since I am past the stadium on a regular basis and in it a few times a year. There's something about that lack of uniformity that I like.

The only real beef I have with it is that the floodlights mounted on the roof of the smaller stand shine right into the middle of the larger stand and it's impossible to watch the game without getting a bloody headache.

[Indiana Jones]

I can't find a good picture, but one end of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville has a pretty clean 1-2 tier transition.

[canarywondergod]

I can't find a good picture, but one end of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville has a pretty clean 1-2 tier transition.

this what you mean?

http://www.bushwood.org/stadium_north_air.JPG

[leenu]

can any one tell me dat how many rows we can have in a seating tier can they be 35 and after how many rows do we have to give an aisle .................................plus are the vomitory entrance gates be the fire exit gates as well ........ior there are differnet fire exits ????????????????

[tv123]

90-95

[pompeyfan]

well theoretically you can have 1 million rows. But the fans in the millionth row would not be able to see the game. Max approx 100 rows in practice. But it varies greatly. The fans in the 100th row would not be able to see much of the action

[leenu]

well basically wut i wanted to askl was dat after how many rows do we have to give an aisle???????????/

[Simmo79]

how many rows in Michigan stadium?

[Verbal Kint]

Retype that in proper English and I'll answer.

[CharlieP]

Well said :)

[Benjuk]

Retype that in proper English and I'll answer.

The influence of avatars shouldn't be underestimated. I can't read any of your posts without hearing Kevin Spacey's "line-up" voice.

[sdk]

Old Thread, but...

Here are 2 videos with some impressions of the "Südtribüne"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYc50xZeCgI (selfmade)

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fl57-i8asY - just some short scenes

Good to see many stadium fans like me, here in the forum :)

[EADGBE]

For what it's worth, I had interpreted the thread as the deepest tier. Why? Because if you just look at overall capacity, it would inevitably favour continuous, single-tiered structures and hey presto, the likes of the Rose Bowl/Michgan/Muich Olympiastadion/various NASCAR venues all come out on top.

So, who are my nominations? Well most of the usual suspects have all had a mention so far, with the possible exception of the old Wembley, the Stadio Olimpico in Rome and the Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow.

To keep this interesting, I have some suggestions that are all upper decks of a 2+ tier stadium, where as far as I can tell, only the Estadio Azteca in Mexico City has already been mentioned.

First up, I give you the West Stand at DKR Stadium, UT, Austin is particularly deep, but I accept its height may exaggerate its depth somewhat. Looking at the picture below, the lower tier is a contender as well:

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/wp/Football/Stadium/Stadium_800x600.jpg

No longer with us, but the temporary second end tiers at the Sydney Olympic (now Telstra) Stadium were pretty deep:

http://www.globalholidays.co.uk/holiday_guides_images/sydney_aerial_olympic_stadium_l.jpg

Finally (for now), a potentially controversial one. I'm thinking of the Estadio Giuseppe Meazza at San Siro, Milan. I'm sure there is a faction who believe that the pre-1990 extensions on three sides constitute a separate (third) tier, as they were built at a later date than the structure below. I would argue that the angle of the tribune is maintained and the lack of an overhang makes it a very stong case to call it an enlarged second tier:

http://www.cechianerazzurra.com/img/san_siro/02.jpg

Unfortunately, I have no numbers relating to row depths for any of these three nominations, but if you know these numbers, then let me know...

[ØlandDK]

I just have to post the Süd Tribune picture:
http://www.stadion-live.de/images/sued_P5210029.JPG

[www.sercan.de]

Atatürk Olimpiyat
"kapali tribün" 2nd tier has got 51 rows (total 98 rows)

http://www.ataturkolimpiyatstadi.net/images/mmedia/stad14.jpg

Main stand 3rd tier has got 41 rows (total 104 rows)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1/atattrkolimpiyatbigth5.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atattrkolimpiyatbigth5.jpg)

[cinosanap]

I take it people just go to the Süd Tribune to blovk each others view!

[matherto]

Telstra looked far better in Olympic configuration

[Mekky II]

don't know this one

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/St_James_Park3.jpg

[nyrmetros]

don't know this one

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/St_James_Park3.jpg

St. James Park in Newcastle. Nice place. Wasfallenstadion is bigger though.

[m@rco]

For sure it's not the biggest in the world but the stade Velodrome in Marseilles has a big one, tribune Ganay: 20,156 seats.
http://kuanyew.tripod.com/Marseille/Images/veloplan.jpg
http://www.photoblot.com/photos450pixel-france/00mar-stade-velodr-10-e03.jpg
http://www.kwh1893.de/fotos/grounds/ausland/frankreich/marseille-stade_velodrome2.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

2nd tier of the main stand at Estadio Santiago Bernabeu

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0356_-_tpr_-_05%20Seccion%20estado%20reformado.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Santiago_Bernabeu5.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Santiago_Bernabeu7.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5800/hpim2890a4kn.jpg

[Quintana]

It looks like 4 tiers to me...

[Marckymarc]

I've always been fascinated by the engineering that allows seating decks to be cantilevered over the lower decks in stadiums. The bigger the cantilever, the more I like it--it seems.

Anyway, I was very curious if it's known what the largest cantilevered seating deck is in any stadium. The largest one that I'm familiar with is the upper deck at Yankee Stadium. It's about 22 rows from the front row to the first row that isn't on the cantilever (not counting the walkway):


http://coralrae.mlblogs.com/photos/yankee_stadium/dsc00300.JPG

^^ The white part of the end section clearly shows the cantilever, roughly 3/4 of the entire tier. :nuts:

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee98/citi_field/Yankee%20Stadiums/a8253776.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee98/citi_field/Yankee%20Stadiums/40b71b7f.jpg

It's actually a cable-reinforced cantilever, with a steel cable "pulling" on the back of the deck to counterbalance the enormous weight:

If anybody has any examples of a larger cantilevered seating deck I'd love to see them! :banana:

[Wezza]

That stadium would be far better looking if the stand went all the way around.

[skaP187]

I've always been fascinated by the engineering that allows seating decks to be cantilevered over the lower decks in stadiums. The bigger the cantilever, the more I like it--it seems.


Totaly agree with you, then you must like Spanish footballstadiums too?
The same goes with me about steepness. The steeper the better!

That stadium would be far better looking if the stand went all the way around.

It´s a baseballstadium... I like it the way it is!

[skaP187]

it is not big but this is what you mean? (Elche CF stadium)

http://i25.tinypic.com/2q21n2e.jpg

[Wezza]

It´s a baseballstadium... I like it the way it is!
I just don't understand why they do that in baseball stadiums. Personally, i think it looks pretty awful like that. But that's just my opinion.

Sorry for taking this off topic a bit. Carry on... :cheers:

[Quintana]

Morumbi in Sao Paulo

http://www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/BRA/Morumbi6.jpg

[skaP187]

Marckymarc do you know the steepness of the second deck?

[Durbsboi]

MCG got to be in the top 10

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=95083&rendTypeId=4

http://www.mcchockey.org/images/COMM_GAMES014.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/1509362927_44e3940753.jpg

[SkyLerm]

Lot of stadia in europe have that kind of tiers.