Its the AVAZ TWISTED TOWER

Its currently Under Construction, in the downtown district in Sarajevo (Marin Dvor) In a few years its gonna be a clustered skyline area....Woohooo!

The top isnt that great but its probably gonna look better in real life...

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2246/11mw7an0.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11mw7an0.jpg) http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9395/12oo4zg5.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12oo4zg5.jpg)
Pictures Originally taken by Mimar!

so this is the tower that Mirza was talking about...
but I thought it was supposed to be one of the tallest in Europe :(
As great as 162m are, I'm still disappointed, I expected much more :D

Anyway, this is great for Sarajevo, obviously it's just 142m tall, and some parts of the design need some more work done, but I like it anyway.

btw, don't post skyscraper news in the skybar, do you know what offtopic means? this certainly is ontopic ;)

one more question, is this closer to the UNIC or the Bosmal?
Or is it in a whole new place?
I hope it's near the UNIC twins, especially with all the highrises prepared to be built in the area, Sarajevo's skyline will become amazing

so this is the tower that Mirza was talking about...
but I thought it was supposed to be one of the tallest in Europe :(
As great as 162m are, I'm still disappointed, I expected much more :D

Anyway, this is great for Sarajevo, obviously it's just 142m tall, and some parts of the design need some more work done, but I like it anyway.

btw, don't post skyscraper news in the skybar, do you know what offtopic means? this certainly is ontopic ;)

one more question, is this closer to the UNIC or the Bosmal?
Or is it in a whole new place?
I hope it's near the UNIC twins, especially with all the highrises prepared to be built in the area, Sarajevo's skyline will become amazing

I think the avaz ppl dont know skyscrapers like we do lol since its not really one of the tallest but it sure is one of the weirdest, since the glass is being twisted and I only seen that here and in Dubai and some other places. yes its very close to Unitic, about a 5 minute walk from this tower to Unitic. Bosmal is way up from this tower about 10 minute drive away with no traffic.

Zaista lepa zgrada, i drago mi je sto ce Sarajevo dobiti jedan ovakav objekat!:)
Samo mi se ne svidja sto je od pozadi onako ravan bilo bi kul da je i od pozadi skroz uvijen...

mashala :D

dzaba meni se ne svidja, tako je demode... a to sa prozorima da se otvaraju onda bi bila stil 80te

Ma kul je bre, sto si partibrejker!

Sad ce Bosanci da izgrade prav toranj, pa ce na kraju da stanu: Kako li se sad ovo zavrce bolan? :D xixixi

igore ne mogu ja da budem euforican samo zato sto se nesto gradi, za svaku pohvalu je to, ali mi s jednostavno ne svidja.

Ma opusteno brate, znas , ono , kao, zezam se , svako ima svoje misljenje, respect i tako to. ;) ovo je bilo vise kao ono, sto si partibrejker :)

pa tako sam ja i shvatio

The design is looking nice..!

Good news for Sarajevo!..... and bad news for daniel_devito :D

Nice building! :)
Is it under construction now?
When is it going to be finished?
Could someone upload a picture of the skyline of Sarajevo?

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9643/im012693pb7.jpg

ahhh Mimar God Bless You

:D

:D

:D

do you know where that pic of Sarajevo Skyline went i thought it was in the last thread section...

Nice building! :)
Is it under construction now?
When is it going to be finished?
Could someone upload a picture of the skyline of Sarajevo?


Yes, its U/C and it will be finished after 2 years

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1114/dsc6963qc3.jpg

wow, nice one :) top stuff :okay:

Yes, its U/C and it will be finished after 2 years

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1114/dsc6963qc3.jpg

Thank You Mimar! :nocrook: Great city!

The design could be a bit improved (I'm not a big fan of it's side - that visible concrete is no good) but good news for Sarajevo!

Congrats!

Cool :okay: A half Turning Tower,that's interesting and great but the top sucks !

wow, I'm surprised. We usually have "rumours" for a year and then 80% of the time it turns out to be cancelled, but here we find out of a U/C tower :)

I think it looks great. Sarajevo will surely have the best modern skyline in the Balkans and among the best in EE

Sarajevo skyline

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7045/sarajevo1tm9.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4899/sarajes9.jpg


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/899/sarajevo1novah1.jpg



this is winter night in sarajevo

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1183/sarajevoov1.jpg

Great work Sarajevo,looks like you're the only city on the balkans that's actually aiming for the top :okay:

Sarajevo is getting 2 more highrises startin janauary, Unitic 3 and Grand Media Center which is gonna have a Video Facade and will tell citizens what time it is, traffic, weather reports, etc..its probably one of the most interesting buildings in europe as well.

Future Skyline..

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/263/futureskylinehe2.jpg

AVAZ Twisted tower 162m
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9643/im012693pb7.jpg

Grand Media Center 100m
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2926/36sn.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/364/25rx.jpg


Unitic 3 130m
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/886b62b6-Unitic_3__4__jpg.jpg

I like it, its a great start for Sarajevo, plus as these pop up its only a matter of time until more do.

This is so amazing, next year there are gonna be 3 towers rising right next to each other. :cheer:

Wow, the mere fact that it's already UC is so..... un-Balkan like. lol Pretty amazing don't ya think?!

Very positive news for Sarajevo!

I'll let you guess what song I'm playing...it's not hard to figure out, just guess ;)















Kemal Monteno - Sarajevo ljubavi moja

Nice, but still second-place to the future towers on Autokomanda (Belgrade) :P That project is also finishing in 2008 >_>

Nice, but still second-place to the future towers on Autokomanda (Belgrade) :P That project is also finishing in 2008 >_>

I'm still waiting for Belgrade to build those skyscrapers it's been promising me for the last 3 years. :)

Forgot to mention I like the skyline Sarajevo is getting :)

Aleksandar Hemon

Sarajevo je...




Taksista koji me vozi sa aerodroma i na moju opasku da lišće već opada, odgovara riječima: "Ma ja, lubenica, učiteljica", što sam nakon podrobne analize shvatio da predstavlja magičnu formulu koja opisuje postepeni dolazak jeseni.

Trenutak kada se, nakon što pukne ramazanski top koji označava zalazak sunca, sa Jekovca vidi kako svjetla na svim minaretima Sarajeva istovremeno zaiskre.

Tandrkanje prvog jutarnjeg tramvaja koje odjekuje kroz prazne ulice grada.

Hladnoća zgrada iz austrougarskih vremena i stepenica u njima, sa rubovima izlizanim od đonova koji se već više od stoljeća njima pentraju.

Somun (sa ćurokotom) iz pekare na Kovačima.

Lopte koje se valjaju u plitkim virovima Miljacke.

Ljepota sarajevskih žena, koja uvijek u sebi nosi upisanu vlastitu prošlost i vlastitu budućnost, istoriju prošlih i budućih mijena: u licima se mogu prepoznati kako žgoljave djevojčice, tako i zrele žene, kako i djevojčuljci, tako i brižne starice.

Sfumato hladnog sarajevskog jutra, prije nego što sunce izmili iza planina, a izmaglica puže uz padine.

Škembići kod Hadžibajrića.

Plodovi koji rastu po grmlju diljem Sarajeva, znani kao "bijele bobice".

Vitka mačka, tigrasta čaršijanerka, koja se valja na brdu perzijskih ćilima u Morića-hanu.

Okrugla tacna koja rotira na vrhu konobarskog kažiprsta.

Miting golubova na Sebilju.

Miris sira, kajmaka, mesa i mramora u Tržnici.

Zvonjava crkvenih zvona u šest ujutro.

Način na koji sarajevski akcenat pući usne govornika, zbog mumlavih suglasnika i progutanih samoglasnika, što naročito lijepo izgleda kod žena sa punim usnama.

Jesenje lišće do zglobova na Vilsonovom šetalištu i zvuk zrelog kestenja kad otpadne, zasrlja kroz grane a onda udari u meki tepih od lišća.

Špricer kod Ramisa.

Miris starih podruma: ugalj, prašina, kace za kupus, memla.

Svjetla koja noću cakle u brdima oko Sarajeva, nalik na zvijezde koje, kao pahuljice, sporo padaju.

Zvuk ispuhane lopte koju djeca šutaju po prašini u parkovima Novog Sarajeva.

Šištanje kiše na ulicama pod točkovima automobila.

Izrezbarene topovske čahure u Kujundžiluku.

Pijukanje radiostanica u taksijima.

Reumatične ruke penzionera na leđima dok gledaju partije šaha sa džinovskim figurama pred avetinjskom Robnom kućom.

Sladoled sa ukusom "egipatske vanilije" (šta god da je to) u slastičarni Egipat.

Zelenilo terena na Željinom stadionu.

Asfalt pun udubljenja, rupa, barica i ruža, nikad savršen, uvijek šatiran.

Kratki trzaj glavom u stranu koji prati odgovor: "Pa evo…", na pitanje: "Šta ima?".

Bljesak uličnih svjetala na mirnoj, plitkoj Miljacki.

Ublažene jarke boje jesenjeg voća i povrća u sjeni strehe pijace na Markalama.

Ćevapi bilo gdje u gradu.

Kiseljak koji izlapi za manje od petnaest minuta.

Tvrdoća kamena koji dotakneš kad se nagneš da popiješ gutljaj vode na Gazi Husrev- begovoj česmi.

Huk Sarajeva koji se čuje na Hridu ili Trebeviću - svi zvuci grada stopljeni u jedno.

Tišina koja prati padanje prvog snijega, kao da sve i svi zamuknu od sjetnog uzbuđenja.

Duge sjenke drveća u Velikom parku u septembarsko poslijepodne.

Kolekcija prepariranih životinja u Zemaljskom muzeju.

Kipovi ispred Narodne banke, vječiti čuvari Čeke, koji drže svjetla-šljemove iznad svojih glava.

Ritam hoda penzionera na Ferhadiji koji se poklapa sa ritmom međusobnog razgovora - sintaksa koraka.

Dres dupljak sa imenom Zinedinea Zidanea na leđima musavog dječaka.

Titova slika u zlatari na Čaršiji.

Gaće i čarape u prolazu kraj Imperijala.

Miris koji odjeća nosi na sebi nakon boravka u Sarajevu: mješavina znoja, cigaretnog dima, ćevapa, pranja u sarajevskoj vodi i sušenja napolju.

Sarajevski svijet: pametni i papci, pohlepni i lijepi, umorni i mladi, mlađahni i mahniti, bogati i jadni, jedri i bolesni, visoki i trošni, ljuti i lavordžije, šaneri i geniji, dijaspora i jalijaši, željovci i pitari, djeca i odrasli, vjerni i nevjerni, moćni i pobožni - sve u svemu, skoro četiristo hiljada gradskih atoma.

I da se ne lažemo, tu nema kraja. Sarajevo se ili voli ili ne voli.



http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h96d/h9627259/danas/pics/zicara2.jpg

Nice, but still second-place to the future towers on Autokomanda (Belgrade) :P That project is also finishing in 2008 >_>

Congratulations. Maybe one day you can even have three in one place ;)

Aleksandar Hemon

Sarajevo je...




Taksista koji me vozi sa aerodroma i na moju opasku da lišće već opada, odgovara riječima: "Ma ja, lubenica, učiteljica", što sam nakon podrobne analize shvatio da predstavlja magičnu formulu koja opisuje postepeni dolazak jeseni.

Trenutak kada se, nakon što pukne ramazanski top koji označava zalazak sunca, sa Jekovca vidi kako svjetla na svim minaretima Sarajeva istovremeno zaiskre.

Tandrkanje prvog jutarnjeg tramvaja koje odjekuje kroz prazne ulice grada.

Hladnoća zgrada iz austrougarskih vremena i stepenica u njima, sa rubovima izlizanim od đonova koji se već više od stoljeća njima pentraju.

Somun (sa ćurokotom) iz pekare na Kovačima.

Lopte koje se valjaju u plitkim virovima Miljacke.

Ljepota sarajevskih žena, koja uvijek u sebi nosi upisanu vlastitu prošlost i vlastitu budućnost, istoriju prošlih i budućih mijena: u licima se mogu prepoznati kako žgoljave djevojčice, tako i zrele žene, kako i djevojčuljci, tako i brižne starice.

Sfumato hladnog sarajevskog jutra, prije nego što sunce izmili iza planina, a izmaglica puže uz padine.

Škembići kod Hadžibajrića.

Plodovi koji rastu po grmlju diljem Sarajeva, znani kao "bijele bobice".

Vitka mačka, tigrasta čaršijanerka, koja se valja na brdu perzijskih ćilima u Morića-hanu.

Okrugla tacna koja rotira na vrhu konobarskog kažiprsta.

Miting golubova na Sebilju.

Miris sira, kajmaka, mesa i mramora u Tržnici.

Zvonjava crkvenih zvona u šest ujutro.

Način na koji sarajevski akcenat pući usne govornika, zbog mumlavih suglasnika i progutanih samoglasnika, što naročito lijepo izgleda kod žena sa punim usnama.

Jesenje lišće do zglobova na Vilsonovom šetalištu i zvuk zrelog kestenja kad otpadne, zasrlja kroz grane a onda udari u meki tepih od lišća.

Špricer kod Ramisa.

Miris starih podruma: ugalj, prašina, kace za kupus, memla.

Svjetla koja noću cakle u brdima oko Sarajeva, nalik na zvijezde koje, kao pahuljice, sporo padaju.

Zvuk ispuhane lopte koju djeca šutaju po prašini u parkovima Novog Sarajeva.

Šištanje kiše na ulicama pod točkovima automobila.

Izrezbarene topovske čahure u Kujundžiluku.

Pijukanje radiostanica u taksijima.

Reumatične ruke penzionera na leđima dok gledaju partije šaha sa džinovskim figurama pred avetinjskom Robnom kućom.

Sladoled sa ukusom "egipatske vanilije" (šta god da je to) u slastičarni Egipat.

Zelenilo terena na Željinom stadionu.

Asfalt pun udubljenja, rupa, barica i ruža, nikad savršen, uvijek šatiran.

Kratki trzaj glavom u stranu koji prati odgovor: "Pa evo…", na pitanje: "Šta ima?".

Bljesak uličnih svjetala na mirnoj, plitkoj Miljacki.

Ublažene jarke boje jesenjeg voća i povrća u sjeni strehe pijace na Markalama.

Ćevapi bilo gdje u gradu.

Kiseljak koji izlapi za manje od petnaest minuta.

Tvrdoća kamena koji dotakneš kad se nagneš da popiješ gutljaj vode na Gazi Husrev- begovoj česmi.

Huk Sarajeva koji se čuje na Hridu ili Trebeviću - svi zvuci grada stopljeni u jedno.

Tišina koja prati padanje prvog snijega, kao da sve i svi zamuknu od sjetnog uzbuđenja.

Duge sjenke drveća u Velikom parku u septembarsko poslijepodne.

Kolekcija prepariranih životinja u Zemaljskom muzeju.

Kipovi ispred Narodne banke, vječiti čuvari Čeke, koji drže svjetla-šljemove iznad svojih glava.

Ritam hoda penzionera na Ferhadiji koji se poklapa sa ritmom međusobnog razgovora - sintaksa koraka.

Dres dupljak sa imenom Zinedinea Zidanea na leđima musavog dječaka.

Titova slika u zlatari na Čaršiji.

Gaće i čarape u prolazu kraj Imperijala.

Miris koji odjeća nosi na sebi nakon boravka u Sarajevu: mješavina znoja, cigaretnog dima, ćevapa, pranja u sarajevskoj vodi i sušenja napolju.

Sarajevski svijet: pametni i papci, pohlepni i lijepi, umorni i mladi, mlađahni i mahniti, bogati i jadni, jedri i bolesni, visoki i trošni, ljuti i lavordžije, šaneri i geniji, dijaspora i jalijaši, željovci i pitari, djeca i odrasli, vjerni i nevjerni, moćni i pobožni - sve u svemu, skoro četiristo hiljada gradskih atoma.

I da se ne lažemo, tu nema kraja. Sarajevo se ili voli ili ne voli.



http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h96d/h9627259/danas/pics/zicara2.jpg

Dinche...dude you live in the same city as me :D

Congratulations. Maybe one day you can even have three in one place ;)

Oh SHIT were done with the Balkan war now its time for the Balkan tower war!!! :runaway:

Oh SHIT were done with the Balkan war now its time for the Balkan tower war!!! :runaway:

Oh come on, no offense to Belgrade, but it's been saying that it'd build at least 5 different skyscrapers since I joined this forum, and all that I've seen is the reconstruction of USCE. I think it's safe to say that I'm not going to believe it until I see it when it comes to skyscrapers in Belgrade.

What happened to those random burst of announced skyscrapers from random companies, and the second USCE? :ohno:

^^ Lol Like I know, only cities I read about are Sarajevo and Banja Luka. :D

It looks great! :okay:

Oh come on, no offense to Belgrade, but it's been saying that it'd build at least 5 different skyscrapers since I joined this forum, and all that I've seen is the reconstruction of USCE. I think it's safe to say that I'm not going to believe it until I see it when it comes to skyscrapers in Belgrade.

What happened to those random burst of announced skyscrapers from random companies, and the second USCE? :ohno:
Actually the second Usce is expected to start with construction some time soon. The Besix Tower is waiting approval (the decision will be made by the end of September).

cool projects, i like the twisting tower, its design is really great.

Actually the second Usce is expected to start with construction some time soon. The Besix Tower is waiting approval (the decision will be made by the end of September).
I must make a few corrections to previous posts about Belgrade's planner scrapers. @Everyone Sorry for going off-topic.

The second Usce tower starts with construction only after the Usce Centre is completed. Seeing as how MPC is currently completing their documentation, working on an environmental case study, etc. for the mall, I expect them to start construction with the Usce Centre some time early next year. That means that we'll have to wait for the second Usce Tower to start with construction some time around 2008. MPC is also involved with the Blok 11a towers and someone from Beobuild emailed them, and they said apartments sales will start this fall, with construction starting in early 2007.

Delta's Autokomanda project will definitely go ahead, but I doubt it'll be finished by 2008. I think mid-2009 is a more realistic date for completion. Delta has said that they first want to complete Delta City 67. It should be done in mid-2007. Once that is done, they'll start the Autokomanda project. However, they probably won't be doing the towers and the mall at the same time (just like with Usce), so it'll all depend on whether they decide to make the towers or the mall first. Delta is also planning a tower for Blok 20. If rumours are correct, Intesa bank no longer wants to be the anchor tenant for the tower because they want an entire building to themselves. I don't know if that rumour is true, but if it is, then Delta now must look for another anchor tenant.

Besix is not waiting for approval yet. The tender for Blok 26 hasn't even been announced. However, before the tender is even announced, the city needs to finish the regulatory plan for the land (if they haven't already), which will determine what kind of development they want in that Blok. Based on what the city planners want, a tender for the Blok will be announced and companies will offer their solutions. Besix will participate, but it will not necessarily win the tender. They have to offer the highest amount of money for the land, offer to invest the most money, and provide the best architectural solution. Therefore, although the Besix plan will probably be among the best offers, there is no way of us knowing if they will definitely win the tender.

There's one thing that seems wierd to me about this project. It says that not including the parking spaces, there is 13500 square metres of useable space in the tower. Does anyone else see something strange with this? It's a 40 floor building with only slightly more space than a a lot of the 6-storey buildings I've been following in Belgrade (and no, they're not spread over a huge plot of land). That would mean that theres around 337.5 square metres of space per floor. I'm under the impression that this would either be a really really really thin tower, or the journalist made a mistake in the article. Also, I don't see how the investor would be able to profit from such a building when they're investing a large sum of money to get so little office space in return.

hey great news guys! Mimar thanks A LOT for the pics !!!
I just arrived to Spain and had to log on to SSC... so much for me from now,ill log on later,one euro is 12 mins gheez :D

greetz to all ;)

Pyromaniac, I have to agree with you there, if it's really 13.5k m2, then that's a problem...
considering it's 142m tall, the average tower should have around a good 40ooo m2, while you say it's got almost 4 times less.
now obviously this tower is slim, but usually the slimmer a tower gets, the taller it gets as well, as to optimize floor space, while 140m is, if you think about it, not very tall.

Well I'm still confident anyway, and no matter how much office space, Sarajevo is doing a great job.
My only problem is the design, it's got some flaws, but it's good enough

That's a great looking tower.:yes:

Pyromaniac, I have to agree with you there, if it's really 13.5k m2, then that's a problem...
considering it's 142m tall, the average tower should have around a good 40ooo m2, while you say it's got almost 4 times less.
now obviously this tower is slim, but usually the slimmer a tower gets, the taller it gets as well, as to optimize floor space, while 140m is, if you think about it, not very tall.



I think you are giving this ''journalist'' too much credit, especially with such (minor to them and their readers ) details. The only thing you can be somewhat sure about is the design and the height (which are their selling points). The rest is to be taken with a grain of salt, especially with a paper like Avaz.. :cheers:

Sarajevo is heading back to it's old glory. Good stuff.

A bit of bad photoshopping from me and Sarajevo's new skyline is born! :D

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3086/sarajevonewskylineyn3.jpg

^^ cool :)

A bit of bad photoshopping from me and Sarajevo's new skyline is born! :D

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3086/sarajevonewskylineyn3.jpg

Nice job, but you forgot to change the Holiday Inn's color, from yellow to silver/blac. :)

Hvala Mimica :D Oh and yeah I forgot Holiday Inn, I'll edit that later ;)

BEWARE FRANKFURT!!! SARAJEVO IS COMIN' UP!!!
:guns1:

Hvala Mimica :D Oh and yeah I forgot Holiday Inn, I'll edit that later ;)

Dont forget the parlament building too :)

great great great stuff brothers! i love the density too!

:cheers2: to sarajevo!

nicely done ZLK!
What I like the most is Sarajevo's narrowness, so, not only does it emphasize the highrises, but also constrains the developers to build close together, hence the density.
And more important, they seem to want to build high and close together, so that's a perfect combo, and Sarajevo, for 600k people, is building itself one sweet skyline

600k? less

600k? less

:wtf:

its about 600 right now, with all the ppl that came in from everywhere.

i don´t think so, coz more ppl left the town than come to live there

i don´t think so, coz more ppl left the town than come to live there

lol yea thats true they all go to banja luka since life is much better there.... :hilarious

^^ Guys relax, its just numbers. We will see when they officialy count the people. I doub't they are not gona do it anytime soon, has to be done.

lol yea thats true they all go to banja luka since life is much better there.... :hilarious
kakve veze ima sad BL i zivot u BL sa brojem stanovnika u SA?
vidjeces kad bude popis koliko ima st u SA

dang it people do you have to pick up on every single detail we are talking about skyscrapers not population. keep on subject.

kakve veze ima sad BL i zivot u BL sa brojem stanovnika u SA?
vidjeces kad bude popis koliko ima st u SA

what does it have to do the number of people with this building. the dude just made an estimate. if i got a penny for every wrong estimate given on this forum i would be a millionaire.

BL dobro ba kako ti kazes, to ti mislis i ja mislim na svoj nacin i eto.

ma mene samo nerviraju ta pretjerivanja broja stanvnika bgd 2,5mil, zgb 1mil, tirana 1mil itd.
kao da je broj uopste bitan

nicely done ZLK!
What I like the most is Sarajevo's narrowness, so, not only does it emphasize the highrises, but also constrains the developers to build close together, hence the density.
And more important, they seem to want to build high and close together, so that's a perfect combo, and Sarajevo, for 600k people, is building itself one sweet skyline

It's all about the geographical position. If Sarajevo was founded somewhere in a huge flat area, you'd see it develop much differently (hence something like Banja Luka).

Congratulations neighbours on another fine skyscraper addition to Sarajevo. :okay:

Once again you guys have set another height record for the region. :yes:

Pozdrav :)

wieeeho its me again from Espana :D the skyline is fuckin amazing ! thanks ZLK ;)
hola from spain ;D

Mimica, it's what interests me the most, since it's so narrow, it needs to build in density, and then in height.
And even though wikipedia says it's 300k (really small, I mean Varna is bigger), well it's capable of building high.
It reminds me of simcity when I built some really narrow cities due to enormous mountains, lol

wieeeho its me again from Espana :D the skyline is fuckin amazing ! thanks ZLK ;)
hola from spain ;D

Hola :D

Mimica, it's what interests me the most, since it's so narrow, it needs to build in density, and then in height.
And even though wikipedia says it's 300k (really small, I mean Varna is bigger), well it's capable of building high.
It reminds me of simcity when I built some really narrow cities due to enormous mountains, lol

yeah i think that necessity is the primary reason why Sarajevo is seeing an investment in high-rises. if the city wasn’t surrounded by the mountains then quite frankly we wouldn’t have a need for skyscrapers...

Can some of you Sarajevans go out and take pics of the construction, sort of update on things, would be cool, and once again congrats on getting true skyscraper. :cheers:

Sarajevo will look pretty good in a year or two :cool:

I think Sarajevo will definitely have to continue down the path of taller buildings because of its mountainous topography, I can see that in the future Rijeka will face similar issues (and Rijeka has very little flat land and incredibly steep mountains).


:cheers:

Mimica, it's what interests me the most, since it's so narrow, it needs to build in density, and then in height.
And even though wikipedia says it's 300k (really small, I mean Varna is bigger), well it's capable of building high.
It reminds me of simcity when I built some really narrow cities due to enormous mountains, lol

You're absolutely right, we've got a small area with a high population (for the area at least) resulting in a high population density and resulting in density in construction (taller buildings).

Beautiful Skyscraper. Congrats to Bosnia. Any1 know the cost of this building?

yeah i think that necessity is the primary reason why Sarajevo is seeing an investment in high-rises. if the city wasn’t surrounded by the mountains then quite frankly we wouldn’t have a need for skyscrapers...

Couldn't sarajevo expand outwards to where there is flat land? You know when you head out of the city the main boulevard, where the Avaz building is at, I see plenty of land there. I think its the Novi Sarajevo / Ilidza area? That side of town could really use some sprucing up, new investment in new high rises, since those current commie blocks are boring!

That said, Sarajevo's narrow hilly roads are nice, it gives the city atmosphere!

Cheers!

^yes but then the problem becomes, how far away can they build?
Sometimes it's better to build high, than expand far away, due to rising commute times.

^^ Yep. Its cheaper to build upwards then to expand in great lengths.

expanding outwards would also mean expanding the city infrustructure: gas, water, electricity, public transport.

i think the cheapest would be to build up then outward.

The only thing that will be build in those flat lands exiting central sarajevo would be residential buildings, probably in the future all that land will be filled with brand new residentials since the cities population is expected to hit a million by 2023.

in the article they dont mention the price of the building but it has to be above 100 million marks right...

I think the winter o.g. as 1984 would bring Sarajevo to its best times again. The city deserves it big time.

Hola :D
Hola amigo :D Hablo Español? Sarajevo esta comprendo un cool tower LOL twist twist :naughty: (forgive my bad spanish,im just 2 days here) :D

Muchas Grasias senor Mirza! :D And to you too 3tmk ;)
I have added Holiday Inn, in it's new colours. However, I won't publish it before I get screens of the parliament building renders which mimar suggested me to add! :D
So please come with the renders and i'll add that too ;) I'll appreciate it a lot!

Muchas Grasias senor Mirza! :D And to you too 3tmk ;)
I have added Holiday Inn, in it's new colours. However, I won't publish it before I get screens of the parliament building renders which mimar suggested me to add! :D
So please come with the renders and i'll add that too ;) I'll appreciate it a lot!

This is the only rendering we have


http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/116/qjn7.th.png
Photo by sarajevo-city

isnt there is a larger picof the Parliement tower.

AVAZ BUSINESS CENTER- This is the headquarters of Avaz. This beautifull building hosts a rotating restaurant with a 360 degree view of Sarajevo. This building is either sold to Sheraton chain or in process. Anyway enjoy pics.

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9259/18zo.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2981/sarajevo49je.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/879/sarajevo25hd.jpg

some older pics

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7982/dsc04505avazya9.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2627/dsc04513rajvosawe4.jpg

In that 2nd picture of the Resturant. Amazing View, I'd love to have dinner there at night. :cheers:

the old Avaz building if its true what they say about Oslobodjenje building a new Media Center i wonder what will happan to their old structure which is right next to the Avaz Tower.

IMO they should demolish it because it ruins the look of the Avaz Tower...

In that 2nd picture of the Resturant. Amazing View, I'd love to have dinner there at night. :cheers:

The restaurant in the Avaz twisted tower will have a better, but it wont be a revolving restaurant

the old Avaz building if its true what they say about Oslobodjenje building a new Media Center i wonder what will happan to their old structure which is right next to the Avaz Tower.

IMO they should demolish it because it ruins the look of the Avaz Tower...

That oslobodenje part can be turned into a very nice restourant or a shopping mall since there is a lot of space there, or if someone buys that part it can be demolished and a nice tower can be build there, but while I was in Sarajevo I noticed that they are renovating the bottom floor of the oslobodenje.

^^ I don't see any potential in the current Oslobodjenje building. Sarajevo needs to use it's land much more wisely, and if we've got low-rises running along the "entrance of the city", it'll set a poor example.

I think the Oslobodjenje building should be demolished completely, as long as it doesn't damage the Avaz skyscraper, and start from the beginning. The entire shape of that building is just ugly and shouldn't be standing.

Foundation Work

Pics By: Mirza

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/avazsupertower.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/avazsupertower2.jpg

Cestitke na novim towerima u Sarajevu :okay:

hvala :)

BTW the answer of the cost that was brought up by someone here i gave a figure of 100 million marks what i wanted to say is 100 million EUROS...

sorry....

congratz, but i must add that you guys should do some major work on architecture, because atleast for now, Unitic and Bosmal towers are ugly to say the least and new proposals look from very bad to average

^^i agree

congratz, but i must add that you guys should do some major work on architecture, because atleast for now, Unitic and Bosmal towers are ugly to say the least and new proposals look from very bad to average

I dont like the third unitic rendering, but bosmal is ok

http://80.65.77.242/rotateimage.aspx?cv=kamera1&lastName=z_kamera1_7.jpg

and grand media centre tower is the best

the investors for now are looking for functionality and not beauty.

but the Avaz thing is strange looking to say the least.

Although the Grand Media and the PORR proposal look a bit interesting (combining functionality with beauty)

i don´t understand why would functionality disclude beuaty?!

money, the investors are primarily bosnian, (excluding BOSMAL) for them the cheaper the design the better hence beauty is abandoned for functionality making the buildings simple in design. The more complex the design the more expensive the construction. as the complexity of the design grows you need more and more trained professionals to follow the project through the entire cycle. as these projects are from home capital from our own firms which lack the necessary capital for expensive designs which would need to bring many field professionals tend to as i said before go for functionality (meaning as long as the building serves its purposes of making money for the investor) they will abandon beauty. once we reach the point where our companies can include both functionality and beauty to their designs then we will se exciting new designs. for now only the foreigners can do that for us.

UNITIC was designed in 80's when that design was well sought after. the new UNITIC tower will follow the design to fit in to the complex.

Avaz is just a rich mans statement.

in the end beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. for me Tokyo skyline is wonderful but allot of people complain that it is just too plain and boxy.

I think that Bosmal looks good, I mean dont forget it's a residental building, so dont expect and glass facade. The Avaz tower(like it or not) is something different and deffinetly not plain. GMC looks great IMO. The only architectural dissapointment is probably Unitic 3, but its not really that bad, and it fits in with the other two Unitic towers.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2885/avaz3qm0.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avaz3qm0.jpg)

call me crazy..... bu this building looks lke an old islamic grave in bosnia.

not the new ones.... he ones frm about 200 years ago. i havent got a picture to compare.... but i am certain it looks the same.

does anyoen see what i am talking about or do i have to serch the internet for a picture?

i think the architect and investor are trying to make a powerful statement.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2885/avaz3qm0.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avaz3qm0.jpg)

call me crazy..... bu this building looks lke an old islamic grave in bosnia.

not the new ones.... he ones frm about 200 years ago. i havent got a picture to compare.... but i am certain it looks the same.

does anyoen see what i am talking about or do i have to serch the internet for a picture?

i think the architect and investor are trying to make a powerful statement.

you mean nišani? :uh:
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i dont see it either.....

^^i agree

I'm glad to hear you think the building is beautiful!

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2885/avaz3qm0.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avaz3qm0.jpg)

call me crazy..... bu this building looks lke an old islamic grave in bosnia.

not the new ones.... he ones frm about 200 years ago. i havent got a picture to compare.... but i am certain it looks the same.

does anyoen see what i am talking about or do i have to serch the internet for a picture?

i think the architect and investor are trying to make a powerful statement.

LOL. I see what you mean but I'm pretty sure that, despite Avaz's conservative Bosniak leanings, it's a complete coincidence.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Conspiracy1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Asim5/Conspiracy2.jpg

Or is it? :scouserd:

bos rocker..... thats the one.... that exact picture.. good match!!

i thought the tower looked unique.. and i cant think of a single thing that it resembles... it certainly looks like no other building in the world. just a coincidence... who knows. we will see if they bury him there :)

i still dont see it

if the lower part was boxy then maybe, but its twisted...

lol.... LORD MARSHALL... no you are right, it is twisted, and the graves are not... what do you want a mass grave underneath the skyscraper so there is more of a resemblance. :) i just think its a unique bosnian symbol in the area and its reflected in the skyscraper.

but i guess we will never know for sure. there is a building outside my appt that looks very odd... always wondered what it was supposed to look like... i saw it a few days a ago it suddenly hit me.... it s the bridge of a ship... and its abot 100 meters from eht beach. genious i thought. and it hadnt occured to me in 3 years. its like art i guess, it means different things to different people

to me it looks like a sword :D

^^ LOL ME TOO :lol:

Avaz Company, one of the most successful companies in Bosnia and Herzegovina, besides publishing and printing activities, is developing a new project - constructing the topmost building in the region - AVAZ TWIST TOWER, 162 meter high, the third magnificent building constructed by the Company.

Avaz Twist Tower will consist of 38 floors, with 13.500 square meters of useful space. The entire complex will be built by the newest standards in the world, from statics solutions and seismic analysis, to architectural perfomances, surpassing many famous European buildings

http://www.fipa.gov.ba/doing%20business/novi_avaz.jpg

http://www.fipa.gov.ba/doing%20business/novi_avaz1.jpg

^^ cool a high def picture, those must be somewhere online in a bigger resolution....looks good.

The scraper looks great, but does the base need to be that large?

It doesn't look like a grave. :sly:
It just looks like a wonderfull piece of Architecture. :)

And the new pics look nice, just need them in a high resolution!

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6889/270920063veb7.jpg

^^ Whats weird is theres a skyscraper and then a house next to it..Will the house have to go because it looks so out of place.

^^ Whats weird is theres a skyscraper and then a house next to it..Will the house have to go because it looks so out of place.

Give it some time, once this building is 50% done, I'll bet at least 2 more projects are going to approved next to it. Look at Hrasno for example; once the BCC got approved, the land prices boomed and 3 other projects started construction instantly.

i agree the house looks really out of place.

i wish they made more pics so that we could tell where the building.

@ mimica: koja jos 3 projekta?

Upravo sam zapazio ovaj stvarno zanimljiv projekt neobicnog izgleda.. jedino sta me zanima su ta plava stakla.. nadam se da nece liciti na ona stakla koja su sada vec na Avazom tornju:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/AVAZ-finis.jpg

Neznam zasto no meni se ta stakla nikako ne dopadaju.. mislim da mi malo providnije stakla puno bolje izgledala nego ova koji su kao neko spiglo.. nesto poput onog sto se kod nas u Münchenu gradilo i gradi:

http://img-x.******************/64/3200164.jpg

http://www.tentowers.de/bilder/050623/IMGP4075_500p.jpg

Neznam.. sta vi mislite o boji stakla?

^^ hmm ne znam,meni nisu ta providna nešto posebno,ali zavisi,možda samo treba potrefiti boju i izgled :okay:
npr. kod nas u Sanskom Mostu ima jedna takva zgrada,meni se na njoj ta stakla uopšte ne sviđaju..
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/P8250753.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/P8250751.jpg

i na na novom Tornju Parlamenta BiH u Sarajevu je isto takva "providna" fasada,samo mi se sad nedaju kopati slike i tražiti,ima negdje na nekom Sarajevo forumu ;)

that base of the new avaz tower is huge... i think it takes away from the sckyscraper.... it diminishes it a sa focal point.... its like a flagpole on top of a concrete block. the old tower looks classier to me... but i suppose its his money and when i have 100 mil to buidl somehting then ill do it my way. hehe

i like blue glass on buildings.

The best place for this tower would of been the triangle land part next to Unitics, but that land has been sold to Triland, for their mall that their suppose to build, then there is another piece on the other side of Unitic which is also sold to some company and their constucting some kind of mid rise office building there, this building seems to have the same problem as bosmal...great building-total shit location.

The best place for this tower would of been the triangle land part next to Unitics, but that land has been sold to Triland, for their mall that their suppose to build, then there is another piece on the other side of Unitic which is also sold to some company and their constucting some kind of mid rise office building there, this building seems to have the same problem as bosmal...great building-total shit location.

I don't know why you guys are dissing on Avaz's location so much, it'll get better, they always do. Such a large investment in the area is going encourage much more attention to the building's surrounding area. Once the skyscraper is done, the surrounding area will probably look much better.

I think that it is good that this tower is in this part of the town cause then we will have skyscrapers all over the city and that is good!

AVAZ TWIST TOWER 28-10-06

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^^ Kul zgrada, al ove zadnje slike gradilista daju dojam da se gradi malo veca obiteljska kuca :D zadnja je dobra:okupili se svi, da vide kak ce dalje, ajoj fali nas aj nazovi onog bratica iz susjednog sela da i on malo pomogne :D

^^ hahah bosnian style of building :) ništa se ti ne brini,vidjećeš kad komšiluk napravi Twist TOWERČINU :okay:

Ekipa, svaka vam čast! :okay:
Sarajevo zbilja juri naprijed!

Stvarno mi dođe muka kad se sjetim onih idiota u Zagrebu koji samo režu visine tornjeva!
Eurotower kompleks je trebao imati dva tornja od 137m, ali su ga srezali na 97m + 50m!
HOTO je trebao imati oko 100m, pa je skresan na 70m..... :sleepy:

Sad nam je jedina nada prijedlog za toranj od 135m u istočnom CDB-u. Zagrebtower (80m), Euroherc (60m), Almeria (70m) i Cromos (70m) bi mu trebali pravit društvo. :|

Anyway.....sretno vam bilo..... ;)

^^ hvala hvala : )
a što su smanjili visine svih tih tornjeva?? btw imaš render od tog tornja od 135m? i koji je najviši toranj u Zg? :)

^^ Kul zgrada, al ove zadnje slike gradilista daju dojam da se gradi malo veca obiteljska kuca :D zadnja je dobra:okupili se svi, da vide kak ce dalje, ajoj fali nas aj nazovi onog bratica iz susjednog sela da i on malo pomogne :DZbog toga se ja ne brinem. Vlasnik svega toga je Radoncic i kad je gradio Avaz kod Oslobodjenja sve je uradjeno na vrijeme. Ja sam uvjeren da ce 2008 godine taj otvoriti toranj kako je rekao. Znaci u procesu mozemo ocekivati da potprasi izvodjaca radova. I inace cini mi se da se borio za drugo zemljiste prije dva mjeseca. Vjerovatno je tamo planirao graditi ovo, pa kad je vidio da nece ici onda je vjerovatno krenuo raditi ovdje. Sto znaci radovi brzo napreduju.

Na ovoj slici se jasno vidi Alhos, tj. mjesto gradnje Avaza, jos kad bi se dodao Parlament, slika bi bila potpuna, pa ako neko radi s kakvim alatima... :)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/Rajvosa/marindvorfinal.jpg
Znate li sta ce Amerikanci graditi u Marsalci?

Na ovoj slici se jasno vidi Alhos, tj. mjesto gradnje Avaza, jos kad bi se dodao Parlament, slika bi bila potpuna, pa ako neko radi s kakvim alatima... :)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/Rajvosa/marindvorfinal.jpg
Znate li sta ce Amerikanci graditi u Marsalci?

kakvu zgradu ce tu gradit?

Znate li sta ce Amerikanci graditi u Marsalci?U Marsalci Ameri grade (a sta bi drugo) ambasadu.

Upravo sam zapazio ovaj stvarno zanimljiv projekt neobicnog izgleda.. jedino sta me zanima su ta plava stakla.. nadam se da nece liciti na ona stakla koja su sada vec na Avazom tornju:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/AVAZ-finis.jpg

Neznam zasto no meni se ta stakla nikako ne dopadaju.. mislim da mi malo providnije stakla puno bolje izgledala nego ova koji su kao neko spiglo.. nesto poput onog sto se kod nas u Münchenu gradilo i gradi

Neznam.. sta vi mislite o boji stakla?Cini mi se da je radio stakla i aluminijumsku konstrukciju na Avazu FEAL iz Sirokog Brijega.
http://www.feal.ba/images/galerija/g29_2.jpg

^^ hvala hvala : )
a što su smanjili visine svih tih tornjeva?? btw imaš render od tog tornja od 135m? i koji je najviši toranj u Zg? :)

Render je bio u novinama 2001. godine.
Na netu ga ne mogu iskopat.
Radi se o dva stklena tornja od 32 kata, spojena sa nekom 5-6 katnicom.

Render ovog od 135m kraj ZagrebTower još nije dostupan.
Za sada se samo neka građevinska firma javila da želi gradit toranj od 35 katova na toj lokaciji.
Btw. tih 35 etaža je maximum koji GUP dozvoljava na toj lokaciji.
Postoji još samo jedna lokacija za 35 katova.

Najviši je TV-toranj (169m), pa dolazi Zagrepčanka (110m), zatim Cibona (105m), pa Eurotower (97m) i ZagrebTower (82m).

U Marsalci Ameri grade (a sta bi drugo) ambasadu.

pa znam to, pitam kakvu :)

^^ hvala na infu ;) bil0 bi šteta da se u Zabregu ne napravi nešto više,jer je i grad sam velik i rasprostranjen,to bi se super uklopilo u grad i dobio bi još na nekakvoj veličini ;)

pa znam to, pitam kakvu :)Pojma nemam, uglavnom cuo sam da ce biti najveca u regiji i da ce upucati u nju dosta USD.

^^ hvala na infu ;) bil0 bi šteta da se u Zabregu ne napravi nešto više,jer je i grad sam velik i rasprostranjen,to bi se super uklopilo u grad i dobio bi još na nekakvoj veličini ;)

Da. Tu si u pravu!
Zagreb je kontinuirano naseljen 35km (istok-zapad) i 20km (sjever-jug)!
Po meni bi trebalo nizati tornjeve oko već postojećeg clustera (Cibona-HOTO-Zabrepčanka-Vijesnik-EuroTower-rakete-Prisavlje).
Taj dio grada se vidi sa Griča i izgleda fenomenalono (čak i sada)! :)

Evo dio tog "skylinea":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Zagreb_skyline_1.jpg

P.S. Sorry na off-topicu....malo me zanjelo... ;)

is the yellow rectangle to the right the sheraton? is that where the view is from?

^^ wow stvarno već sada izgleda moćno :okay: podsjeća me malo na Varšavski skyline :okay:
nadam se da će stvarno još koji viši toranj izgraditi,tek će onda biti fenomenalno ;)
ma nema frke,ne brini za offtopic,naši smo :D

Da. Tu si u pravu!
Zagreb je kontinuirano naseljen 35km (istok-zapad) i 20km (sjever-jug)!
Po meni bi trebalo nizati tornjeve oko već postojećeg clustera (Cibona-HOTO-Zabrepčanka-Vijesnik-EuroTower-rakete-Prisavlje).
Taj dio grada se vidi sa Griča i izgleda fenomenalono (čak i sada)! :)

Evo dio tog "skylinea":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Zagreb_skyline_1.jpg

P.S. Sorry na off-topicu....malo me zanjelo... ;)

izgleda fenomenalno!

is the yellow rectangle to the right the sheraton? is that where the view is from?

To je Westin! ;)
Slikano je sa Griča.

Evo još pra slika, pa slinite ;) :
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8562/dsc1422fl8af6.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/545/dsc1717xg71ca0.jpg

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:cheers2:

zagrreb malo lici na warschau :lol:

Moze li ko obiljeziti gdje se nalazi Twist Tower tacno? Ili nekako bolje objesniti da ja obiljezim..
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/Rajvosa/marindvorfinal.jpg

Jos kad bi Ameri sad zdrmali jednu zgradu od bar 15-18 spratova skyline bi bio mrak!

Imam ja jednu drugaricu sto radi u americkoj ambasadi sada i pricala mi je o toj novoj ambasadi. Bice najveca na Balkanu. To ce sad bit centar za vize, greencards, i sve drugo za citav balkan. Kaze da ce sigurno bit center za hrvatsku, Bosnu, Sloveniu, Crnu Goru, Abaniju, Serbiju, i cak mozda za madarsku i Rumuniju. Sto je bas dobro za BiH zato sto smo prije morali u Zagreb za takve stvar a sad oni ce u Sarajevo :)

Imam ja jednu drugaricu sto radi u americkoj ambasadi sada i pricala mi je o toj novoj ambasadi. Bice najveca na Balkanu. To ce sad bit centar za vize, greencards, i sve drugo za citav balkan. Kaze da ce sigurno bit center za hrvatsku, Bosnu, Sloveniu, Crnu Goru, Abaniju, Serbiju, i cak mozda za madarsku i Rumuniju. Sto je bas dobro za BiH zato sto smo prije morali u Zagreb za takve stvar a sad oni ce u Sarajevo :)

Super stvar, po zemljistu sto su kupili mozes napraviti 5 unis zgrada i 3 twist towers toliko ima prostora. Znaci bice nesto mocno tu, mozda i cak neki midrise :D. Cuo sam da ce u skolopu da naprave neku americku biblioteku, bice ogromna....

This baby blue area is the land that is gonna be used for the US embassy, all the old barracks buildings are demolished and the land is just flat with a few trucks there. I dont know how it is now, but thats how it looked like over the summer..
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/949/sdaszs2.jpg

SaRaJeVo-City, from how I understand it the Avaz twist tower will be a little more off the top right corner of that image. Or maybe even on the very top right corner. I think it should be visible on the right side of the second image as well.

I'm glad Avaz's building is built where it is, that way it doesn't look like our downtown goes from modern skyscrapers to a ghetto house. This tower is going to introduce a whole new range of investments in that area.

Moze li ko obiljeziti gdje se nalazi Twist Tower tacno? Ili nekako bolje objesniti da ja obiljezim..
Jos kad bi Ameri sad zdrmali jednu zgradu od bar 15-18 spratova skyline bi bio mrak!

Zato sam i pitala kakva ce biti ta ambasada, nadam se nesto u visinama, ali, sudeci po velicini zemljista, vjerovatnije da ce se raditi o niskogradnji.

Evo ovaj cropovani dio je mjesto podnozja Avaz-a, nemam ovdje instalirano nista sem Irfan View-a da zabojim:

http://static.flickr.com/108/283361249_ab46086bae_o.jpg

I dont know how it is now, but thats how it looked like over the summer..
Radnici su na terenu, ali ne gradjevinari, vec hortikulturolozi :) Sade nekakve sadnice (izvor - tvsa), nakon sto su na teren nanijeli dosta zemlje.

Imam ja jednu drugaricu sto radi u americkoj ambasadi sada i pricala mi je o toj novoj ambasadi. Bice najveca na Balkanu. To ce sad bit centar za vize, greencards, i sve drugo za citav balkan. Kaze da ce sigurno bit center za hrvatsku, Bosnu, Sloveniu, Crnu Goru, Abaniju, Serbiju, i cak mozda za madarsku i Rumuniju. Sto je bas dobro za BiH zato sto smo prije morali u Zagreb za takve stvar a sad oni ce u Sarajevo :)

Nekako sumnjam da će biti centar za Hrvatsku kad su tu prije par godina izgradili tvrđavu... :)

ma grade i u skoplju isto "tvrdjavu" tako da ni ja ne vjerujem da ce biti centar ni za sta drugo osim za BiH

To je i logično.Nema mi baš previše smisla da bi mi morali ići u Sarajevo,kao ni vi u Zagreb.Čovijek izgubi volju za putovanjem.

Sta fali danasnjoj ambasadi na Kosevu ?

imali novih slika Avaz TT?

tiwst tower....:)

http://static.flickr.com/109/303261667_7212842f1f_o.jpg

pogled iz holiday inn-a

tiwst tower....:)

http://static.flickr.com/109/303261667_7212842f1f_o.jpg

those apartments gotta go. :ohno:

moja verzija 1...

http://static.flickr.com/109/303329791_00e181312f_o.jpg

those apartments gotta go. :ohno:

I doubt they will stay there long, as Sarajevo gets more investements things get built or need more land, and seeing how those ugly things are located in downtown sooner or later someone will pay to build a business there or a nice condo.

Verzija 2.

Neki malo jednostavniji bi u svakom slucaju bolje izgledao...

http://static.flickr.com/101/303467244_c7b2266666_o.jpg

I doubt they will stay there long, as Sarajevo gets more investements things get built or need more land, and seeing how those ugly things are located in downtown sooner or later someone will pay to build a business there or a nice condo.

They don't have to build something new, just refurbish them.

And to the one I deleted the post, there is a testing section if you want to make test posts

They don't have to build something new, just refurbish them.

And to the one I deleted the post, there is a testing section if you want to make test posts

not to sound stuck-up, but those apartments aren't so impressive either. there's only a certain amount of potential a building can have to look nice, and those apartments definately lack in potential. i'm hoping they'll just get annoying by the construction sounds and leave on their own. :dunno:

Compared to other comies, those apartments are rather good looking.

Compared to other comies, those apartments are rather good looking.

indeed, but we really need to stop comparing things to other shitty things. ;)

Nothing is wrong with these residental blocks, they are ones of the best built in period 1950-1990.
There's an other problem... Sarajevo generally has lack of NICE paths, streets, parks, parkings, curbs etc and this area is a perfect example of it.

evo jedna slika sa lokacije
lijevo je Zeljeznicka stanica, a desno ona zgrada u kojoj je snimana Viza za buducnost, iza koje se gradi Avaz:

http://static.flickr.com/117/304069181_2a7e6b2e96_o.jpg

Nothing is wrong with these residental blocks, they are ones of the best built in period 1950-1990.
There's an other problem... Sarajevo generally has lack of NICE paths, streets, parks, parkings, curbs etc and this area is a perfect example of it.

You're right about Sarajevo lacking paths and such. Not just that, but naturally our paths and such should be at least slightly decorated, to make them look pleasing. However, we're stuck to looking at dead weeds hanging over the sidewalks, completely neglected by the city. :ohno:

^^ soooooomething like this mimi? :devil:

http://static.flickr.com/118/303821691_d6e4bad837.jpg?v=0

:cool: :D

^^ soooooomething like this mimi? :devil:

http://static.flickr.com/118/303821691_d6e4bad837.jpg?v=0

:cool: :D

Precicely. ;)

^^ soooooomething like this mimi? :devil:

http://static.flickr.com/118/303821691_d6e4bad837.jpg?v=0

:cool: :D

Iz Sanbridge-a ? :D

^^ Afkors where else :cool: :|

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/PB241567.jpg

^^ Nasao sam na avaz.ba

USPJEŠNA IZGRADNJA JEDNE OD NAJVEĆIH EVROPSKIH ZGRADA

Trenutno su u toku građevinski radovi na osnovi četvrtog sprata i to na visini od 19 metara * Tornjevi će imati 40 etaža

Nakon postavljanja 63 nosiva šipa na dubini većoj i od 30 metara, betoniranja kontraploče, te izrade skoro devet metara visokih temeljnih zidova, nova poslovna zgrada najznačajnije medijske kuće u BiH "Avaz Twist Tower" polako ali sigurno počela je svoje "propinjanje" na kotu "162 metra iznad tla". Svoj novi poslovni objekt "Avaz" gradi na širem lokalitetu Marindvora, nasuprot Željezničke stanice, u sarajevskoj općini Centar.

Rad u dvije smjene

Od ukupno 40 etaža, koliko će ih nova sarajevska i bh. ljepotica imati, radnici "Vranice" do danas su sagradili četiri. Zapravo, u toku je betoniranje ploče nad trećim, odnosno, osnove četvrtog sprata, i to na visini od 19 metara. Inače, oko 70 građevinara ove kompanije na izgradnji "Avaz Twist Towera" svakodnevno radi u dvije smjene.
- Uz to, prati nas najmanje još toliko radnika u fabrici montažnih elemenata, budući da se izvodi polumontažni sistem gradnje, potom u armiračnici, betonari i na mehanizaciji - pojašnjava upravnik gradilišta Osman Mešić.

Zimski uvjeti

U slučaju izuzetno niskih temperatura (ispod minus 5 stepeni Celzijusa), zbog kontinuirane gradnje i u zimskim uvjetima, Mešić je potvrdio da u "Vranici" intenzivno razmatraju primjenu tehnologije grijanja betona, pomoću koje neimari ovog preduzeća rade na gradilištima u Rusiji.

"Vranica" naplatila četiri miliona KM

- Samo do "izlaska" iz zemlje, dakle na izradu šipova, kontraploče i temeljnih zidova, na izgradnji "Avaz Twist Towera" utrošeno je 4.560 kubnih metara betona, te 410 tona armaturnog čelika. Iznad tla, do danas, ugrađeno je dodatnih 1.300 kubika betona i 200 tona armature - kaže Mediha Šahović, rukovoditeljica gradilišta. Za te radove, "Avazova" kompanija "a-roto press" je "Vranici" već platila više od četiri miliona KM.

Radončić: Znamo šta ćemo ostaviti Sarajevu i BiH

- Činjenica da smo u protekla tri mjeseca toranj ukopali na 30 metara dubine i već gradimo četvrtu etažu, najbolje potvrđuje da "Avaz" nastavlja izgradnju Sarajeva i BiH.
To je istovremeno i najbolji odgovor političkim gubitnicima koji žele javnost obmanuti pričama kako se mi u "Avazu", navodno, bavimo političkim uredovanjem umjesto našim osnovnim poslovima. Iako je naš osnovni biznis u oblasti printanih medija, ovo je "Avazu" za šest godina treći veliki objekt. Istovremeno, Lagumdžija je vladao od 2000. do 2002. godine, a Tihić od 2002. do 2006. godine. Znači, za njihovih šest zajedničkih godina na vlasti, oni iza sebe nisu ostavili ništa osim sveprisutne korupcije. Za razliku od njih dvojice, mi znamo šta će iza nas - ali i još nekoliko uspješnih investitora koji su spasili obraz ove države, kada je razvoj u pitanju - ostati ovom gradu i BiH - kaže utemeljitelj "Avaza" Fahrudin Radončić o prozivkama Sulejmana Tihića i Zlatka Lagumdžije.

This is a great Tower imho! I don't mind the visible concrete that some have pointed out.. And it's certainly very unique and very tall :cheers:(btw it's 40m taller than the current PCL tower proposal :bow:)

^^ the PCL is awesome :yes:

sarajevo in future

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q16/MuaDib_01/AvazTwistedTower-HolidayInn.jpg

^^ :eek2:
and thats like in a CLOSE future,in 2 years :uh:
great work Maslačak!! and imagine UNITIC towers and UNITIC3 and the parliament over there :uh: :D

^^ ^^ :eek2: Looks really GREAT!!!

sarajevo in future

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q16/MuaDib_01/AvazTwistedTower-HolidayInn.jpg

great job maslacak. :yes: if u don't mind, i'm going to pinch this pic and post it in the sarajevo construction thread as well.

Looks phenomenal.

great work dude

BECA kad ces nam napraviti nove slike twist tower-a da vidimo dokle je doslo

ovaj vikend nisam na planini, pa cu malo prosvrljati po gradu :)

danasnje stanje:

http://static.flickr.com/129/318617020_51d6c09a14_o.jpg

sutra cu nabaciti jos slika sa gradilista

kool going up :okay:

ovo po meni ide sporo:O

ovo po meni ide sporo:O

once the first couple of floors are built, it's much easier to continue with construction. because the foundation is the hardest part, the rest is fairly repetitious work.

why is the rating of this thread so bad? :D

someone is jelaous :nuts:

maybe ;)

ovo po meni ide sporo:O

Pa ide brze nego svi drugi projekti vala. Nista od GMC, koncert dvorane, BBi polako, Unitic 3....Ovaj nekako najbolje. Vidicemo kako ce ispast

It is a modern building.

I love glassy complex.

Cheer.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6568/rekonstrukcija09i101220zw4.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3342/rekonstrukcija09i101220rg5.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1624/rekonstrukcija09i101220ru5.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8969/rekonstrukcija09i101220hy4.jpg

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http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9527/rekonstrukcija09i101220kb0.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2943/rekonstrukcija09i101220pv1.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7350/rekonstrukcija09i101220pi0.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1944/rekonstrukcija09i101220fb9.jpg

u jebote....al su pozurili...nema sta, svaka cast!

a i puteljci sa svih strana objekta su obnovljeni mada trenutno malo prljavi jer se ipak radi o gradjevinskoj zoni:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4080/rekonstrukcija09i101220dh7.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1916/rekonstrukcija09i101220zu1.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6758/rekonstrukcija09i101220va1.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/218/rekonstrukcija09i101220tp7.jpg

Not so sure but i think i made a comment about this tower in another thread but i will give it my review again.
Personally i dont like it, the height is great but not so much the design. Perhaps the rendition is deluding, we have to see it once it's acctually complete.

cool znači krenuli su s 4. spratom! Beca svaka čast na slikama! odlične kao i uvijek :okay:
jel ono na prvoj slici u pozadini željeznička stanica??

^^ Na renderu zgrada bas ne izgleda dobro, al ko zna kak ce izgledati kad se dovrsi. Samo mi ta lokacija nije jasna - pa odmah do je obiteljska kuca - zamislite da vam preko puta zgrada od 162 metra! hmm

pa u SA manje vise svigdje su ti kuce odmah na obroncima, a to je blizu brda tako da imas kuce...
jeste glupo, ali jbg.

^^ lol jes to čudno malo,ali ja mislim da će se i te kuće morati ubrzo sklanjati : )

pa u SA manje vise svigdje su ti kuce odmah na obroncima, a to je blizu brda tako da imas kuce...
jeste glupo, ali jbg.

Ovdje nazalost nema mjesta za nove kuce u dolini pa ljudi idu na brdima, stat ce i tome kraj mozda

btw svi koji su poceli gradnju ovog ljeta imali su srece jer nije imalo mnogo padavina i temp su bile visoke :) , al ni to nece trajati dugo

Nije loše, moglo bi i bolje ali će sa svojom visinom sigurno izgledati impresivno. Samo mi nije jasno zašto se gradi u selu (predgrađu...šta je ovo ?) a ne u urbanoj zoni ?

evo da se ovo brdo na desnoj strani sravlja sa podom i da se digne neki potporni sid ko sto sam reko..video reklame ili neku bastu naprave onda bi bilo super.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3342/rekonstrukcija09i101220rg5.jpg

i don't see the big deal; the area is going to get fixed up naturally. do u really think the residents of those homes will want to stay there in the first place? besides, they'll be glad to sell it once the price jumps way higher than currently.

Oh, they are staying there for sure. Ain't moving nowhere. Mark my words.

I thought the building was right next to the Station (like in front of it), not up a hill surrounded by gardens. It's shite indeed but that's Avaz mentality for ya.

Still the building might end up great and the height is awesome. Just don't go near it. lol

ja sam svoje misljenje o avaz tower dao prije. To necu da ponavljam a vise nije ni bitno. Sto se lokacije tice, ovo je Sarajevo, a ne Los Angeles, ne Berlin, ne Split......Za jedno 50 godina bice tu jos na desetine nebodera. Zemljiste na kojima su trenutno ove kuce bice exproprirano ili ce ih ljudi sami vremenom prodati. Cijene su vec i sada zasigurno medju najskupljim u BiH, a tek ce rapidno da se povecaju dok se ova lokacija bude afirmisala kao glavna poslovna zona u BiH (sto ce naravno pratiti i promjena namjene zemljista). Sta bi JA dao da sam vlasnik kuce na takvoj lokaciji!

Oh, they are staying there for sure. Ain't moving nowhere. Mark my words.

atleast not this generation of all the families.

evo da se ovo brdo na desnoj strani sravlja sa podom i da se digne neki potporni sid ko sto sam reko..video reklame ili neku bastu naprave onda bi bilo super.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3342/rekonstrukcija09i101220rg5.jpg

ne diraj mi sarajevska brda! to je jedan od top 5 simbola grada :)

Zgrada je OK kao zgrada, sviđa mi se, ali nikako mi ne pase tu. Kao i onaj Bosmal, strsi.

Trebali su postupno urbanizirati podrucje, a zgradurinu napraviti kao secer na kraju, ovo je meni smijesno, kucice, brda, puteljci, a u sredini zgradurina od 160 m :nuts:

Oh, they are staying there for sure. Ain't moving nowhere. Mark my words.

I thought the building was right next to the Station (like in front of it), not up a hill surrounded by gardens. It's shite indeed but that's Avaz mentality for ya.

Still the building might end up great and the height is awesome. Just don't go near it. lol

I would like to see if someone told the residents that in the new regulatory plan for Sarajevo the plan to widen the street (which goes from train station to bosnalijek and bare cemetery) to four lanes. What you think that Avaz didn’t know what they were doing or have inside information?:)

I would like to see if someone told the residents that in the new regulatory plan for Sarajevo the plan to widen the street (which goes from train station to bosnalijek and bare cemetery) to four lanes. What you think that Avaz didn’t know what they were doing or have inside information?:)

we all forgot about this "little" fact :)

Zgrada je OK kao zgrada, sviđa mi se, ali nikako mi ne pase tu. Kao i onaj Bosmal, strsi.

Trebali su postupno urbanizirati podrucje, a zgradurinu napraviti kao secer na kraju, ovo je meni smijesno, kucice, brda, puteljci, a u sredini zgradurina od 160 m :nuts:

welcome to Sarajevo :D:D

pogled ka zapadu iz podnozja buduceg tornja:

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/8150/rekonstrukcija09i101220hi3.jpg

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/5037/rekonstrukcija09i101220jy7.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4750/rekonstrukcija09i101220rv6.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2219/rekonstrukcija09i101220ep1.jpg

hmm pa pogled je tu i tamo hehe.. barem je tu Energoinvestov torajn... a željeznička staniva je bljoov za povrćanje :bash: ajd tješi me barem što će do nje biti slijedeće godine biti gotova sooper moderna nova eurolines autobuska stanica :cheers:

hahahaha o bože LOL šta mi je s pravopisom :crazy:

Šta fali stanici, izgleda super samo malo fasadu obnoviti, oživeti onaj trg ispred i to je to :)

^^ evo iz blizine:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7361/204899097f82d334589ogi2.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8247/84894597121f436029otr4.jpg

hmm pa i nije toliko loše sad kad razmislim..ok vanjštini željezničke stanice treba dorada,ne baš toliko očajna ali treba... ALI unutrašnjosti treba očajna rekonstrukcija lol,osim one aule velike s onim velikom Coca Cola dobrodošlicom,ono prema wc-u i sve ostalo je big bljoov :D

to bi se ispred željezničke sve moglo SUPER srediti,još pogotovo sad kad se Twist Tower završi,nova high-tech autobuska će svakako do kraja 2007 biti gotova,i još samo željeznička i taj trg ispred mislim da bi bilo skroz ok.. :okay:

trg ne treba dirati, skroz je ok, fontana je jako lijepa i neobicna izbliza, navece je super osvijetljeno (odnedavno)
sta bi ti to radio na trgu?

zgradu treba malo sredini, i unutrasnjost, naravno

hmm čuo sam za fontanu da su radili nešto na njoj,ali nisam nažalost tad bio u SA kad je bila renovirana..
hmm pa ne znam,možda dodati kakvih klupa ili nekih tezgi gdje se prodaju neke stvari ili smthin? baš je prazno nekako :dunno:

samo mi nemoj tezgi, ziv bio :ohno:

salim se, klupe su dobra ideja

lol nisam mislio na ciganske tezge na kakve smo navikli =))
mislio sam na fino ukrašene tezge,koje prodaju cvijeće,bonbone ili šta već..
nešto ovako ko u Malmöu na Möllevången

http://www.malmo.se/images/18.1dacb2b109b75417aa80007202/mollevangen.jpg

:)

Trg ima potencijala...samo je trenutno ogroman a bez nekog sadrzaja. Prirodno da se niko nece na njemu zadrzavati dok se ne postave...Naravno za to treba raspisati konkurs..

I dont like the third unitic rendering, but bosmal is ok

http://80.65.77.242/rotateimage.aspx?cv=kamera1&lastName=z_kamera1_7.jpg

as i said, average, something that normally would be built in suburbs as a new-age commieblock... and Unitic rendering looks very poor, but the innitial proposal is quite good acctually and if a proper quality materials shall be used it should turn out as rather pleasent looking tower

and grand media centre tower is the best


Although the Grand Media and the PORR proposal look a bit interesting (combining functionality with beauty)

Wow, seriously!!! do you have any taste at all? the media center is like the worst by far - that fattie (Holiday Inn) is just horrifying

as i said, average, something that normally would be built in suburbs as a new-age commieblock... and Unitic rendering looks very poor, but the innitial proposal is quite good acctually and if a proper quality materials shall be used it should turn out as rather pleasent looking tower






Wow, seriously!!! do you have any taste at all? the media center is like the worst by far - that fattie (Holiday Inn) is just horrifying

i'm glad u approve - because u have no idea how much us bosnians care what u think. :)

^^ lol gheez BL is really right... and what if he doesnt like it,its not the end of the world MIMI ;) gheez everybody has right on his own opinion :dunno:

mirza-sm:

Nobody has right to insult Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Uhm Thunderman,oh i mean Islam_Bosnia,oh i mean Al-Pacino,oh sorry,Ronaldinho :D yes they have :)

dont start this now

Ne brini ne raspravljam s maloumnom djecom : )

mirza-sm:

I am wainting for you in Malmö. So that we can have a lot of fun!

Jebote ovaj mi pretio ubistvom na MSN.u bože sačuvaj :nono:

Mene dodao na staru MSN adresu i predstavio se ko Beca... a tamo nick mu alkaida1990@hotmail.com :cheers:
Aj srećno Mirza, čivaj se u Malmeu... :nuts:

Mene dodao na staru MSN adresu i predstavio se ko Beca... a tamo nick mu alkaida1990@hotmail.com :cheers:
Aj srećno Mirza, čivaj se u Malmeu... :nuts:

haha, he did the same shit with me. :haha:

mirza-sm:

I am wainting for you in Malmö. So that we can have a lot of fun!

grrr ill let u know when i come to Malmö so u can come and get my tiger :devil: im all urs u hottie u :banana:

:bash: :lol:

Jebote ovaj mi pretio ubistvom na MSN.u bože sačuvaj :nono:

lol tako mi je svaki dan :|

@ pavle: yeh rojt,im shakin =)

jel ima nekih novosti o twistu, ili jos bolje neka nova slicica? :)

dokle su dosli radovi zna li neko?

danas oko podne sam se nekim slucajem nasla na trgu ispred Zeljeznicke stanice, pa evo i nekoliko slicica:

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8544/030106005co9.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4452/030106007nj6.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5310/030106003bj6.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7673/030106004sj5.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2152/030106006hw1.jpg

wooooow:nuts: avaz tower brzo napreduje:D btw ljepa fontana thanks Beca;)

sve je super ali je lokacija je karna...ali beca hvala za slike... zgrada napreduje super ali stvarno ova lokacija usra sve..valjda ce se ubuducnost poceti rusiti ova stara gradevina oko ATT.

jest Sarajevo-city do sa se srusi da ostave trg i fontanu o farbaju Stanicu bilo bi super izadjes iz voza vidis odma veliku zgradu:D

i ja se nadam... ove stare kuce treba sve porusiti...