I wonder if you can help,
I’m looking for all the different freemason logos and symbols ect.. I can find in Leeds.
We obviously have the owls that are on the freemason stile pillars (well the ones in millennium square are anyway), there are also small pillars around the towers on the Civic Hall.
I just wondered if anyone had seen anything else.
If any of you are freemasons please don’t hesitate to contact me, I am not anti freemason and the freemasons interest me very much.

Thanks.
Matt

......We obviously have the owls that are on the freemason stile pillars (well the ones in millennium square are anyway), there are also small pillars around the towers on the Civic Hall......

I think you're slightly off-beam about the owls. According to a genealogical website I've been rooting through:

In 1626 a Royal Charter of Charles I incorporated the Borough of Leeds when the wealthy Sir John Savile, MP for Yorkshire, was elected the first council member of the Borough. The coat-of-arms displayed a fleece, supported by silver owls on a blue field. The fleece represented the staple trade of the town whilst the supporters came from the arms of Sir John. Sir John had recently become a landowner in Leeds and he gave some land in Headingley for building a church, which became the first St.Michael's in Headingley.

Following the restoration of the monarchy in 1662 the chief inhabitants of the town petitioned Charles II for a new charter. The charter was granted on the 2nd November that year. With this charter the chief citizen became the mayor of the town. The first mayor of the town was Thomas Danby whose arms included three mullets argent, or three silver five-pointed stars to you and me. The stars were added to the arms.

The arms were not settled until 1836 when the Leeds Corporation was reconstituted under the Municipal Corporations Act 1835 and the Borough Seal now comprised the full complement of blue shield, owl supporters, the crest and the motto, 'pro rege et lege'

An important citizen of Leeds in 1920 was Alderman Sir Charles Wilson MP, a Freeman of Leeds and London. He was concerned about the legality of the coat-of-arms as it was not registered at the College of Heralds. It was decided to submit the matter to the College. His Majesty's Officers at Arms altered the colour of the owls to 'proper', that being the proper colour of owls.

The arms received the sanction of the College on the 7th November 1921. Above the shield is the closed helmet used by Civic Authorities with a crest-wreath and covering in the principal colours of the arms, gold and blue.

However, you can see masonic symbols on the office building on Great George Street just behind the cathedral presbytery; there's also a foundation stone recording which bigwigs from the masonic order were present at the laying of said stone. Ironically, the building is now owned b the Catholic Diocese of Leeds.

Then there's the former masonic hall further down Great George Street, now an O'Neill's Bar:

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/23/2002328_93943423.jpg

I've always thought that the metal pyramid sculpture outside the Civic Hall is kind of Masonic. The raised capstone especially. Just my thoughts though i'm afraid, i'd be interested to know its history.

Good thread though, i'll look forward to learning more...

I've always thought that the metal pyramid sculpture outside the Civic Hall is kind of Masonic. The raised capstone especially. Just my thoughts though i'm afraid, i'd be interested to know its history.

Good thread though, i'll look forward to learning more...

I was looking at that yesterday...

Capstone very much reminds me of this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Dollarnote_siegel_hq.jpg

Any idea if Leeds has a Masonic Cornerstone for the city?

The owls do come from the Savile family, but the question is what do the owls represent to the Savile's?

With regards to Freemasonry in particular, Sir Thomas Fairfax's family seat in Ilkley has a masonic temple (which is now an electrical firm's office) and there's a Fairfax Lodge in Guiseley

Fairfax was obviously big in masonic circles and a mover and a shaker in the Civil war in Leeds where, incidentally, he let Sir William Savile get away when he should have been beheaded

Fairfax is the ancestor through whom Kate Middleton branches into the aristocracy. Kate comes from another of Leeds' elite families, the Luptons. In the 19th Century, four Lupton brothers "simultaneously held some of the most important offices in the city"

That was back when Cuthbert Broderick was knocking about Leeds and building sphinxes and pyramids with no capstone

The obelisk, as mentioned, is big news in Freemasonry, and a lot of masons have an obelisk marking their grave. Not least Matthew Murray, who has a beauty in Holbeck, which is also home to Temple Works, a replica of the Temple of Horus. Horus is a one-eyed sun deity in Egyptian mythology who, it is suggested, is the 'widow's son' in masonic tradition and the inspiration behind the obelisk (he was conceived by a golden wang)

Obelisks seem to go with domes, it's assumed that it's masculine-feminine symbolism. There's loads of examples, not least Canary Wharf and the O2, but at Leeds Uni too

Back to the Savile family, there's another famous son of Leeds bearing that name, although he's just a simple DJ and no relation.

Wasn't this what Leonard Henry was barking on about once?

Some kind of plan to create the constellation Orion in Leeds City Centre with the new developments at the University, with the Town Hall being the Sphinx and some museum being the pyramids and god knows what.

Wasn't this what Leonard Henry was barking on about once?

Some kind of plan to create the constellation Orion in Leeds City Centre with the new developments at the University, with the Town Hall being the Sphinx and some museum being the pyramids and god knows what.

This is a general thing rather than a belief. But It is said Leeds was founded to hide a secret. Who knows.... ....That's delving into the world of Misery. :lol:
The Town Hall Lions also could be designed with intent of masonic symbolism.

I was looking at that yesterday...

Capstone very much reminds me of this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Dollarnote_siegel_hq.jpg



I'm not sure why, but every time I see the all seeing eye on the pyramid I feel really uneasy...

I'm not sure why, but every time I see the all seeing eye on the pyramid I feel really uneasy...

I don't agree. The more the merrier I say - provided they are on dollar bills I own ! :)

I have just found this post, Very Interesting.....
I Never actually knew that the Rothschild Family owned a building in Leeds...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=87120.0

I have just found this post, Very Interesting.....
I Never actually knew that the Rothschild Family owned a building in Leeds...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=87120.0

Nice spots there

The O'Neil's pub he suspects was a lodge was deffo a lodge

I'm pretty sure an arm of the Rothschild empire worked out of offices above what is now The Sports Cafe (if it still is that?). Wasn't that once a BofE office? I don't think they own 1 Park Row, but it's one of 3 regional offices (the other 2 in Brum and Manc)

The Parkinson Tower/Obelisk stands in front of a dome (I'll find a pic later), the 2 usually go together as masculine and feminine, or so people say

Rhinomatt, you might want to familiarise yourself with various masonic/secret society hand signals and take a cheeky look at some of the statues in City Square. The fingers are usually obscured by other parts of the statue, but a close look can be revealing

Also take a look at Walter F Hook's statue in City Square and compare it to G Washington's famous Baphomet pose. Then track down where he used to live ...

Oh and the reflections given off by the Rosebowl when illuminated seem pretty suss too

Nice spots there

The O'Neil's pub he suspects was a lodge was deffo a lodge

I'm pretty sure an arm of the Rothschild empire worked out of offices above what is now The Sports Cafe (if it still is that?). Wasn't that once a BofE office? I don't think they own 1 Park Row, but it's one of 3 regional offices (the other 2 in Brum and Manc)

The Parkinson Tower/Obelisk stands in front of a dome (I'll find a pic later), the 2 usually go together as masculine and feminine, or so people say

Rhinomatt, you might want to familiarise yourself with various masonic/secret society hand signals and take a cheeky look at some of the statues in City Square. The fingers are usually obscured by other parts of the statue, but a close look can be revealing

Also take a look at Walter F Hook's statue in City Square and compare it to G Washington's famous Baphomet pose. Then track down where he used to live ...

Oh and the reflections given off by the Rosebowl when illuminated seem pretty suss too

Wish to elaborate on anything at all? thanks.


PS. do you mean this? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vdsg3r&s=5

Nice spots there

The O'Neil's pub he suspects was a lodge was deffo a lodge



It ws in fact the headquarters of the Freemasons in Leeds, 1865. Later served as juvenile courts until transformed into a pub. Replaced by another building on Great George Street on the other side near Woodhouse Lane - now offices.

Notice the Shield of David. People often mistakenly think it was a synagogue at one time.

Wish to elaborate on anything at all? thanks.


PS. do you mean this? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vdsg3r&s=5

I'll find some pictures later. It's more fun finding out yourself though

Yeah that's what I meant on the Rosebowl, the hexagram, Seal of Solomon, Star of David. Like on the Freemasonic hall turned O'Neils

Look into the National Press Club (USA) and the floor of York Rd library, more weird stuff

I'll find some pictures later. It's more fun finding out yourself though

Yeah that's what I meant on the Rosebowl, the hexagram, Seal of Solomon, Star of David. Like on the Freemasonic hall turned O'Neils

Look into the National Press Club (USA) and the floor of York Rd library, more weird stuff

Interesting in deed.
Never weird, Simply Interesting.

Stumbled across this a few weeks ago, may be of interest...

http://occultleeds.blogspot.com/

Stumbled across this a few weeks ago, may be of interest...

http://occultleeds.blogspot.com/

Thats Leonard Henry

Who's Leonard Henry ?...

Who's Leonard Henry ?...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=598220&highlight=orion

Im afraid im guilty of egging him on a bit:lol:

Who's Leonard Henry ?...

I'm Leonard Henry and that's my website. I found loads of cool stuff out, but I got bored of it. I think an early incarnation of that blog named Councilor Andrew Carter as a shapeshifting reptilian

Cnosni pretended he'd discovered the Giza link too, but blew it with something about Vikings. He gave me the river idea though

In fact, someone as paranoid and mental as me once published a now out-of-print book about a Masonic conspiracy concerning a Headingley bypass behind the Arndale. If anyone's got a copy, I'd love a read. I think that Poulson fella was involved

But yeah, the old secret symbolic rendition of Giza on the streets of Leeds, great days. I'll have to publish my findings on Jimmy Savile soon, but he's the type who'd probably have me sued or my legs broken. Best wait till he pegs it, but with all that virgin blood he drinks in the morgue at Jimmy's, we could be in for a wait

I'm Leonard Henry and that's my website. I found loads of cool stuff out, but I got bored of it. I think an early incarnation of that blog named Councilor Andrew Carter as a shapeshifting reptilian

Cnosni pretended he'd discovered the Giza link too, but blew it with something about Vikings. He gave me the river idea though

In fact, someone as paranoid and mental as me once published a now out-of-print book about a Masonic conspiracy concerning a Headingley bypass behind the Arndale. If anyone's got a copy, I'd love a read. I think that Poulson fella was involved

But yeah, the old secret symbolic rendition of Giza on the streets of Leeds, great days. I'll have to publish my findings on Jimmy Savile soon, but he's the type who'd probably have me sued or my legs broken. Best wait till he pegs it, but with all that virgin blood he drinks in the morgue at Jimmy's, we could be in for a wait

So you sussed out whgo was the head of the secret organisation then.

What was it called again? The Woolcombers? I thought you'd named Savile as top dog? And he'd hidden something somewhere? A bit Dan Brown for my tastes, I prefer the necrophilia rumours Irving Welsh and Frank Skinner have alluded to and the the picture of him conducting a Masonic ceremony in Broadmoor with Frank Bruno and Peter Sutcliffe

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/SNN2501Asutcliffe_740914a.jpg

What was it called again? The Woolcombers? I thought you'd named Savile as top dog? And he'd hidden something somewhere? A bit Dan Brown for my tastes, I prefer the necrophilia rumours Irving Welsh and Frank Skinner have alluded to and the the picture of him conducting a Masonic ceremony in Broadmoor with Frank Bruno and Peter Sutcliffe

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/SNN2501Asutcliffe_740914a.jpg

Jimmy was the top man,he knocked off the bloke who used to sing at the back of Marks and Spencers to worm his slimy way to the top!!

PS,is that picture real or is someone way way better than me at photoshop.

Oh yeah, Danny. I think he was an illuminati witch, a good one though

That's a bona-fide photo. It was taken in '91, but published in the Sun only the other year