So this is the first thread and first post in this European subforum assigned to Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Mods put us together so I hope it will work. Good luck to this subforum! :)

If anyone has any question related to Central European countries, please write it in this thread and do not create the new special one, thanks in advance. ;)

Congrats on new forum, guys.

I hope to see many pics from all over CZ, H and SK, especially from capitals ;)

^Thanks, so do I ;)
Correctly is "Welcome to Central Europe"...ohh shi(f)t I spoiled first thread... :bash:

^^hehe;)
Congratulations, and get to work! :)

Congrats and lucky job. :cheers:

Great that this section has been opened. Looking forward for productive threads :)

Cool idea! I'm sure, I will be visiting this subforum very often.

congrats guys, you've deserved it, I'll be frequent visitor to these forums, so you can count me in.

Pity, Slovaks have left :D
:cheers: :cheers: :cheer:

Cool! :cheers2:

But why isn't Poland invited in this club? I think they don't have any share in international forums, only their native section, where foreigners can't participate much because of language barrier.

Hope to see many pics from Prague in the new subforum.

so language here will be only english?

so language here will be only english?
You can use whatever you prefer. English would be probably the best though.

So guys, I think we should agree on organisation of this CE forum. IMO it will be good to create few subforums, e.g. one for posting construction updates and projects, one for posting photos related to CE and one for general discussion. As for used language I think English is most suitable except general discussion where we would probably use more our native languages. Of course generally everyone can create posts in language he wants.
So what do you think about it?

Yeah, finally we've got our own forum to post in. This is great news for me :)

:scouserd:

damn this didn't go like it should have

guys, wait a little bit, don't start anything yet, we have some more things coming

Great news!!! Greetings guys!!!

and Poland?

Hallelujah! :cheers1: :cheers2: :bow: :rock: :drunk:
Finally we have our own forum.
I'm looking forward to see construction news and pictures from all three countries.

Congrats guys :cheers:

Sorry but how can you forget about one of the biggest central european country ?

Poland has an own section
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45

Poland has an own section
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45

national forum in polish language...

Congrats to our Czech, Slovak and Hungarian friends on your new section. :okay:

Pozdrav svima :)

While I wish you luck and congratute you on your new forum, I don't think this "Central Europe" thing will work, knowing that just a few weeks prior, a few forumers asked for a "Czech & Slovak Forum". Now, with Hungary included, they won't be able to use otherwise very similar Czech & Slovak languages to communicate.

But thats for you guys to work out:)

Poland will finally be kicked out of here, so that it stays in its own forum.
This place will be for the Czechs and Slovaks

So why this forum is called "central Europe" ? You should rename it. into "Chech & Slovaks & Hungarian skyscaper forum"

again, I keep repeating it but you people cannot read the stickies on the dlm
the names are generic. It's just something to use in the beginning. Once we are done, we will start changing small details like names.

^ Small details :D

Poor Hungarians, they won't understand anything :D

Greetings Central Europeans, this is the Adriatic calling :)

Congrats on your sub-forum, I will be a regular visitor here like I will be with the Adriatic and Scando-Baltic forums.


:cheers:

Poor Hungarians, they won't understand anything :D
That's the revenge now for them being so mean, having a language that noone else understands. :colgate: :colgate:

:scouserd:

Finally :cheers:

Poland's presence or 'non-presence' on this forum should be finally discussed. And it has to be a common decision and not just one voice mumbling about kicking Poland out from CE. Poland has its own forum but it's a national one in Polish.

So why this forum is called "central Europe" ? You should rename it. into "Chech & Slovaks & Hungarian skyscaper forum"
I agree because geographicaly Central Europe includes all these countries: Germany, Switzerland, Lichtenstein (I hope I've written it correctly), Austria, Poland, Czech republic, Hungary and Slovakia.
I think this thread should be for Slovaks and Czechs only or for Slovaks, Czechs, Hungarians and Poles and it could be named "V4" or "Visegrad forum."

Where are Hungarians. Are they ignoring this forum?

guys, how about finding a name?
This place isn't really busy, but that's mostly because we left it a mess, now we can finally set things straight and get it moving.
So we'll add the P&C and a your cities section, basically one for Project and constructions, obviously, and the other for all photothreads
Then the main section will be used for all other urbanism topics, as well as the eventual OT that might come up.
The reason why we do not want to make skybars is that it entices people to spend more time in the skybar, while now in the main page people won't be willing to create threads about dancing bananas or the newest video on youtube, like we used to do in the EE.
But you guys are great, I'm sure this place will become awesome

Whats about ,,Central European trio'' or ,,Central European quartett'' (with poland) CET/CEQ

or Central-stage
.....

I just love "Central Europe". No need to change it. Sounds cool

or Visegrad group (yes, it sounds weird)

I just love "Central Europe". No need to change it. Sounds cool

i think the same....i cannot imagine better name

Let's use this thread for the moment as a general welcome and Q&A and suggestion box thread

^ 3tmk, will you please correct title of this thread to "Welcome to Central Europe!"?
Thanks :)

Heart of Europe...

I agree because geographicaly Central Europe includes all these countries: Germany, Switzerland, Lichtenstein (I hope I've written it correctly), Austria, Poland, Czech republic, Hungary and Slovakia.
I think this thread should be for Slovaks and Czechs only or for Slovaks, Czechs, Hungarians and Poles and it could be named "V4" or "Visegrad forum."

Couldn´t agree more, original idea was to create the forum for the Czechs and Slovaks, the name central Europe is more geographical term. So there are two possibillities: firs tis to create the forum for the Czechs and Slovaks, second is to make CE forum more general.

Hi all!

at this web address:

http://transito.mastertopforum.org

you will find a new forum that would like to become a meeting point among all the foreigners living in Czech and Slovak Republic.

I guess it could be interesting for some of you guys, thanks a lot and sorry for the spam!

The Transito staff

:eek:
that nuke plant pic is incredible!

Hi there. This thread seems to be dead. So i will post some pictures from lovely Slovakia:
http://www.dusky.sk/pics/2006-12/2881_000bahg3.jpg
Nuclear powerplant Jaslovske Bohunice as seen from air.

http://www.dusky.sk/pics/2006-12/2879_slovnaft2.jpg
Slovnaft oil refinery in Bratislava during night gas exhausts.

wow, I really love the first pic..
The second is also good but the first one is IMO just astonishing. :runaway:

Happy New Year to all CE forum staff! :banana: :cheers:

Happy new year, of course. But kokpit, mate, I´ve just established a thread dedicated to this, we´ve just posted at the same time - look at the time of your post and posting of my thread. And I suggest, that we just post the nice wishes in this, so that they will be not splitted.

OK :okay:

hello to all. I just registered today... may be you can advise me a little...
I am mainly interested to meet some people from real estate business. Where can I find Forum like this?? Thx to all

Hello tygr, well, this is forum rather for construction enthusiasts (mainly skyscraper fans), however there is some Professional section on this forum but as I know rather for architects and engineers. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=324

Hey guys, with the new year started up, is there any special gift the section needs from the staff? I know we're late for Christmas, lol, but somehow I wonder if we need a P&C here or if the main section is fine.
On one hand having it will make people more active to find new topics to discuss in the main section
On another hand, it will kill the forum by having people click more and more to get to what they really want.

Or if not that, a name or subtitle? Maybe finally kick Hungary out since they don't seem to show up even in a more specialized forum for them

Nice, 3tmk. This is just my personal view, I think the main section is fine. Well, it´s winter, even if the wheather doesn´t look so, so the activity of Projects and constructions a bit slowed down. Personally I support the second solution you proposed for the main section, it means making it more informations worth, let´s have better quality, than quantity and if someone just decide to discuss, pose questions or post the information, he/she just can do that.

For the forum name, to be really honest, the name Central Europe is bit seducive. Almost five months after launching the forum it has evolved and it can evolve. We need e.g. more polls-like threads and definitely photo sessions. I support our CZ-SK forum, and will support, but the mood and the quality on CE forum is fine anyway.

The name "Mitteleuropa" would put this forum over the top!

I agree with Timoth, current CE forum organization is sufficient enough, we can discuss about creating special photo subforum though. My POV is that there's no need to change anything for now and near future, my personal wish is more forumers from Czechia will come and contribute.

The name "Mitteleuropa" would put this forum over the top!

for sure... :D

I think this forum should become a solely Czecho-slovakian one. Put Hungary elsewhere. Czech and Slovaks have no problem communicating in their respective languages, Hungarians can't - so what's the point of having them here anyway..

You don't like them Hungarians, do you? :(

-Ataman

I think Hungarian forum belong to Central Europe..If someone want speak Slovak or Czech with someone else - can use private messages
-current CE forum organization is sufficient enough + everything else what Kokpit said above..

You don't like them Hungarians, do you? :(

-Ataman

If You are from Hungary, can contribute more Hungarians here? Why you are so lazy:) recruit here more forumers from Hungary...

You don't like them Hungarians, do you? :(

-Ataman

I have absolutely nothing against Hungarians. Don't bother to try to connect me with any sort of nationalism.
I was merely expressing my view on organisation of this subforum.

I think Hungarian forum belong to Central Europe..If someone want speak Slovak or Czech with someone else - can use private messages
-current CE forum organization is sufficient enough + everything else what Kokpit said above..

Well but then also Poland, Austria, Slovenia and maybe some other countries should be represented here...they are, in fact, central europe just as well.

Don't worry, that was a joke. :)

-Ataman

alright, one just needs to take these kind of things seriously, with the image Slovaks have in Hungary nowadays... :)

It will improve within this generation. :)

-Ataman

So this is the first thread and first post in this European subforum assigned to Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Mods put us together so I hope it will work. Good luck to this subforum! :)


Sorry, maybe I am writing bulshit, but what is going on? Central Europe withous Poland?

Sorry, maybe I am writing bulshit, but what is going on? Central Europe withous Poland?

This is czech+slovak forum. "central europe" is just a name of our forum.
You have your "forum polskich vezovcov".

So I believe that current name of that forum does not fit well to it content. Central Europe is a collection of four states: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. I would advice to change name from Central Europe to Czecho-Slovakian Forum. It would be more proper.

So I believe that current name of that forum does not fit well to it content. Central Europe is a collection of four states: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. I would advice to change name from Central Europe to Czecho-Slovakian Forum. It would be more proper.

What about "Real Central of Central Europe Forum" :cheer: :master:

well if we were that strict we would have to do it properly and add all states that belong to central europe. My Lonely Planet Central Europe book includes Germany, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Austria, and Slovenia. Therefore I think its better to keep it the way it is. Czecho-Slovakia makes no sense because we have Hungary too.

well if we were that strict we would have to do it properly and add all states that belong to central europe. My Lonely Planet Central Europe book includes Germany, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Austria, and Slovenia. Therefore I think its better to keep it the way it is. Czecho-Slovakia makes no sense because we have Hungary too.


My educational background, which is politics tells me, that Central Europe is a term which has two meanings. First one is broader and contains states as: Poland. Czech, Slovakia, Hungary. Baltic States (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia), Austria, Former Yugoslavian States and ROmania as well as Bulgaria. But more proper meaning of that term includes four states, those from our region which is commonly known as Central Europe (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary). All those countries formed in the early 90' political and cultural - ragional forum of talks which was and is still called Vyshiegrad Group (from city in Slovakia). What is more if that forum includes Czech Republic, Slovakia, AS WELL AS HUNGARY why not Poland? I see no sense in your explanations...sorry, but our four countries makes Central Europe, any forum, sub-forum of any other place of discution called Central Europe without Poland is simply not Central Europe....I strongly suggest changing of that fourms name on maybe Former Austro-Hungarian Forum (without Austria::P), that would be much more proper...:lol:

1. Visegrad is in Hungary.
2. Forum name will be "central europe"
3. No Poland here! (tired of photos Warsaw 4 towers from 1000 different angles)
4. Deal with it.

My educational background, which is politics tells me, that Central Europe is a term which has two meanings. First one is broader and contains states as: Poland. Czech, Slovakia, Hungary. Baltic States (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia), Austria, Former Yugoslavian States and ROmania as well as Bulgaria. But more proper meaning of that term includes four states, those from our region which is commonly known as Central Europe (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary). All those countries formed in the early 90' political and cultural - ragional forum of talks which was and is still called Vyshiegrad Group (from city in Slovakia). What is more if that forum includes Czech Republic, Slovakia, AS WELL AS HUNGARY why not Poland? I see no sense in your explanations...sorry, but our four countries makes Central Europe, any forum, sub-forum of any other place of discution called Central Europe without Poland is simply not Central Europe....I strongly suggest changing of that fourms name on maybe Former Austro-Hungarian Forum (without Austria::P), that would be much more proper...:lol:


sorry Panajotow, but you are probably mixing eastern europe with central europe. Central europe is what i mentioned before, If you dont believe look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe . Vysehrad is a city in Hungary, not Slovakia. I still think it is best to leave status quo. Central Europe with our 3 countries and Poland has its own forum.

YEah...you are right with Visegrad:). I thought is in Slovakia, but that is not point. That forum's name is a lie, and a proof of ignorance as well. That is not my problem of course. You can call it even The Galactic Empire...

sorry Panajotow, but you are probably mixing eastern europe with central europe. Central europe is what i mentioned before, If you dont believe look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe . Vysehrad is a city in Hungary, not Slovakia. I still think it is best to leave status quo. Central Europe with our 3 countries and Poland has its own forum.

I know Wikipedia well, but even if we want to use your source we have to aknowledged that Poland is part of Central Europe as well, so as it is it should be present in that Forum. I see no subject to quarell for! And yes, you are right both, Visegrad is in Hungary! And if I could add something more about Central Europe, well...I have written one chapter about it in my master thesis, so I know the subject quite well, and I took mu knowledge not from wikipedia, but from place called library when you can find even more knowledge then in Wikipedia:P

I am glad everything is clear now:) Feel free to browse our Galactic empire of Czech republic and Slovakia hillarious forum:lol:

We dont want Poland here bacause simply there are hundreads of you here on skyscrapercity.com, this forum will be overflooded with pictures from Warsaw, we all know Poland is in central Europe, no offence or anything.

I know Wikipedia well, but even if we want to use your source we have to aknowledged that Poland is part of Central Europe as well, so as it is it should be present in that Forum. I see no subject to quarell for! And yes, you are right both, Visegrad is in Hungary! And if I could add something more about Central Europe, well...I have written one chapter about it in my master thesis, so I know the subject quite well, and I took mu knowledge not from wikipedia, but from place called library when you can find even more knowledge then in Wikipedia:P

I know what you mean, all I was saying is that if we added Poland we wouldnt be more "Central Europe" because we are missing another few countries.Thats the reason why your arguement makes no sense. All countries have their forum and it seems that only a few people are complaining. That means the division of the groups is fine and everyone has space to show their cities.

p.s. I go to the library a few times a week, but i didn't feel like scanning a map of Central Europe just so that you understand. :lol:

I know what you mean, all I was saying is that if we added Poland we wouldnt be more "Central Europe" because we are missing another few countries.Thats the reason why your arguement makes no sense. All countries have their forum and it seems that only a few people are complaining. That means the division of the groups is fine and everyone has space to show their cities.

p.s. I go to the library a few times a week, but i didn't feel like scanning a map of Central Europe just so that you understand. :lol:

Scanning any map wont be necessery, because my knowledge of that issue is quite well. So I dont want to be a trouble maker, but that forum has no right to be kwnow as central-european, simply because it is Czech-Slovakian and Hungarian. NO offence, but your three countries don't make Central Europe. If you are saying that adding Poland wont make forum more central -european it absence makes it less central-european. But I see that discussion is pointless....

And do not patronise me, please. Ignorance does not have to exist with bad manners. I have not had anything unpleasant for your countries on my mind. From my perspective, which is supported by my educaton, Central Europe in one of its meanings consists four coutries. In broader, more geographical one it consists most countries between France (or Germany) and former USSR.

you are right, this discussion is pointless:nuts:

but that forum has no right to be kwnow as central-european...


:doh:

What about calling it the "Landlocked non-German speaking countries of central Europe"?

-Ataman

more What about calling it the "Landlocked Slovakian, Czechian and Slovakian speaking countries of Central Europe"?

Scanning any map wont be necessery, because my knowledge of that issue is quite well. So I dont want to be a trouble maker, but that forum has no right to be kwnow as central-european, simply because it is Czech-Slovakian and Hungarian. NO offence, but your three countries don't make Central Europe. If you are saying that adding Poland wont make forum more central -european it absence makes it less central-european. But I see that discussion is pointless....

And do not patronise me, please. Ignorance does not have to exist with bad manners. I have not had anything unpleasant for your countries on my mind. From my perspective, which is supported by my educaton, Central Europe in one of its meanings consists four coutries. In broader, more geographical one it consists most countries between France (or Germany) and former USSR.

Geez, chill out man! Do you see any other Poles breaking a sweat about this issue? If Poland was to move here from EE, it would flood the whole subforum, as there are tens of times more Polish forumers, than Czechs and Slovaks put together. EE is good enough place for those few Polish topics in English. Just deal with it.
And one more thing, please stop bragging about your education, because you make yourself look ridiculous.

I still think Mitteleuropa would be fine. The German forum is almost too small to warrant its own subsection. We'd finally be able to resuscitate the glorious days of the k.u.k.-Monarchie. ;)

We'd finally be able to resuscitate the glorious days of the k.u.k.-Monarchie. ;)

No, thank you, 300 years was enough. And Glorious days? That's only illusion...

In regard to "Poland in CE forum" topic, few polish threads in english about main constructions going on there wouldn't bother me here at all. So if someone want to, he can double threads from EE here as well (that's only my opinion though).

Geez, chill out man! Do you see any other Poles breaking a sweat about this issue? If Poland was to move here from EE, it would flood the whole subforum, as there are tens of times more Polish forumers, than Czechs and Slovaks put together. EE is good enough place for those few Polish topics in English. Just deal with it.
And one more thing, please stop bragging about your education, because you make yourself look ridiculous.


Ohhh.....really? Thanks for opening my eyes...Until you did not write that I was blind. Man, as I wrote previously they can call it whatever they want to. I wrote my posts only becouse ridiculous is calling something with a name which does not suit to the subject. That is small thing, but maybe important. That is all. God bless you all:).

It´s interesting to read so many views and opinions. I personally also would not mind few Polish threads about the projects and constructions.

Nevertheless, for the name of the forum central Europe was a reponse to the requests from us. It was not a complete fullfilment of our request, but let´s say seventy percent, don´t catch me on words with this, please.

I know, that central Europe sounds nice, we have used to it, it has been a bit polishing name for the forum, but think it´s maybe really time to name it properly.
So there are a few possibillities how to name our forum. how about these ones:

- CS forum, with the variants Czech-Slovak forum, Czechia and Slovakia forum
- Czechia and Slovakia urbanity, Urban Czechia and Slovakia, and similar variations
- other name, like Vysočina-Tatry, Chodsko-tatranské fórum, apod.
- in our languages: České a slovenské fórum
- Czechia&Slovakia skyscraper forum
- Czechia&Slovakia highrise forum
- Czechia and Slovakia urban issues

I personally prefer the name of the countries instead of naming the forum by some imaginary name.

Don't forget the magyars either - even if we are not linguistically tied to any other european nation (including Finland and Estonia).

Seriously though, I would restructure the European forums into 5 categories: Western, Northern, Southern, Eastern, and Central. Nations would be assigned to subcategories. That would mean more than 30 sub-forums, including non-english ones.

Central Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Central-europe.png

Anything not Central Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Location-Europe-UNsubregions.png

-Ataman

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Central-europe.png

So we can proudly call our forum central europe. No need to change it.

Here are some maps, in almost every map it is different:

/encyclopedia.quickseek.com/images/Hist_central_europe.JPG

http://www.gate1travel.com/central-europe-travel/maps/MapCentralEurope.gif (http://www.union.edu/Academics/InternationalPrograms/images/central_europe.gif)

http://www.union.edu/Academics/InternationalPrograms/images/central_europe.gif

http://www.holiday-weather.com/img/maps/map_central_europe.gif

Nevertheless, wikipedia hosts this image of central europe, which is more, or less also geographically correct:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Hist_central_europe.JPG

Panajotow, no need to boast about your incredibly extensive education anymore, you got your point across.
Nevertheless, again I must say I'm in favour of changing this forum to Czecho-slovakian forum. There are no relevant active Hungarian forumers here anyway, and it would clear up this stupid name controversy..

btw: the name "Czechia" sounds a bit strange to me.

I'm in favour of changing this forum to Czecho-slovakian forum. There are no relevant active Hungarian forumers here anyway, and it would clear up this stupid name controversy..


Czecho-Slovakian forum..sound good:cheers:

dont forget the big S in Czecho-Slovakian Forum. Otherwise I agree too:banana:

btw: the name "Czechia" sounds a bit strange to me.

You should get used to it :)

As for hungarians, I wouldn't write them off yet.

I don't think it's a good thing to rename this into the Czecho-Slovakian forum.. Who knows, if there are no active Hungarian members now it doesn't mean there won't be any in the future..

Forum name asi it is now is just perfect.

Restructuring the European forums into 5 categories (central, eastern, northern, southern, western) would be perfect, like this:

http://galactygon.blackwyrmlair.net/europe.jpg

Although I might add Lithuania and Slovenia to central europe.

-Ataman

Yeah right....Portugal with Macedonia, Scotland with Latvia.....reaaaaaly makes sense! ts ts

Ataman, the reason why that won't happen is because many of those countries have their own forums, so what we have here is basically for the rest of us.
back in the days there was no forum for anything in eastern europe, you had to use the general eurosection, which obviously nobody did and there was no growth.
With the EE, we were a big "happy" family, so that there would be a place for us all. Little by little, with more projects and more people, some started to break away, first the Ukrainians, and then we decided to just break it up into 3, the Czech O'slovak group, the AA for the western Balkan trio, and the old EE would become a smaller place focusing on the Balkans as well as any other nation in the old EE that doesn't have enough representation, and, to top it off, act as the general english section for the old nations that left us, if need be. Now this might change soon if we decide to update the general eurosection, but that's for another day.
Now for your case, where do Hungarians go, we wanted to put you here, even though it was supposed to be a Czech and Slovak section for their local languages, even though you do not understand each other, we believe it is a more hospitable place to encourage Hungarians than being in the old EE with us Bulgarians or Romanians. Obviously it didn't work, perhaps there aren't enough big projects to stimulate interest among Hungarians, I don't know, but at this point, we might as well move Hungary back in the EE and leave this to the Czechs and Slovaks like they first wanted. Unless if you guys decide to stay roommates.

As to the name, Central Europe is fine if you guys like it, but the problem is from a few Poles who come here and then, without reading the thread and understanding what this place is about, start complaining that Poland isn't in the mix. The best way is to tell them to read the thread before speaking up, or we'll have to explain this over and over.

I maybe have been misunderstood. I have nothing against reading about new constructions and interesting buildings in Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary, my point is, and was, that calling forum about all those things can't be called Central Europe simply because those countries are only part of Central Europe. Similar situation would be if somebody would establish Noth American forum which would only consist threads about Mexico...Of course I have no power to force you to change that wrong false name, I only wanted to direct your atention to that matter. I know that there is whole separate sub-forum (Forum Polskich Wieżowców), and they did not call it Forum Środkowo-Europejskie, I guess partly becouse it is only about Poland...

If you decide to move the Hungarians back to the EE, than you should rename this forum into something like Czecho-Slovakian Forum, or similar, otherwise the name should stay.

But I think the few Hungarians here, prefer to stay...

^ I hope so, I want Hungarians to stay here. And may be in the future few Poles will show us in few threads what's going on in Poland, they prefer EE forum nowadays as there are probably more forumers than here so they have bigger audience.

^^ I agree with kokpit.

here some pictures just for fun:lol:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4132/zemepisusa01se5.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2200/zemepisusa02nj9.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4783/zemepisusa03sq0.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6416/zemepisusa05xs3.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1881/zemepisusa06zv4.jpg

^ I hope so, I want Hungarians to stay here. And may be in the future few Poles will show us in few threads what's going on in Poland, they prefer EE forum nowadays as there are probably more forumers than here so they have bigger audience.

I don't understand the Poles... Ok. That's true the EE forum is way more popular, but even emotional reasons are beside the Central European forum. I have nothing against the nations in the EE and Balkan region. Indeed all European nations have a great history and culture. But the Czechs, the Poles and the Hungarians were pretty much formers of the history of Central Europe for many centuries now. (Not to mention Austria and Germany, but I admit there palce in the western zone.) So I hope the polish forumers will join us(?) only in ENGLISH sometime in the future. The reason why I've put that question mark after the 'us' word because I can't really say "Us central europeans". Very few Hungarians can be found here, and that makes me feel pretty melancholic... I joined this forum in the summer when I accidentally bumped into this great site. So not long ago I'm a forumer here. But I was so disappointed to see every nation has their representatives here in a quite a large number, except us Hungarians. It's a shame I can count the numbers of participants from Hungary on one hand. I was out for some month last fall, but when I visited the site again still almost nothing... I dont really understand the absence of interest from our fellow citizens but it seems like the negatives of everyday life, the absence of will to do something and the totally narrowed views of life or the huge impartiality of everything that characterizes today's hungarians is exactly shown here on forums like this. Hands down on You guys! And thank You Kokpit for, not writing us down. And thank you All who felt the same way!

I think Panajotow has also some point what he wrote. The forum just does not deserve the name Central Europe. Just imagine, that Scandinavian and Baltic forum will be without Sweden, for example, or North American forum without USA, or Canada. The same goes here, without Poland, Austria, Slovenia and maybe some other countries it is just the improper name for the mostly Czech and Slovakian forum.

I dont really understand the absence of interest from our fellow citizens but it seems like the negatives of everyday life, the absence of will to do something and the totally narrowed views of life or the huge impartiality of everything that characterizes today's hungarians is exactly shown here on forums like this.

lol, do you really think that every hungarian depressed and thats why they dont visit SCC?:nuts:

the main reasons:
- they dont know skyscrapercity
- or they dont give a shit about urbanity and architecture

im mostly interested in stadium architecture and i dont care about the new metro in Budapest

Very few Hungarians can be found here, and that makes me feel pretty melancholic... I joined this forum in the summer when I accidentally bumped into this great site. So not long ago I'm a forumer here. But I was very disappointed to see every nation has their representatives here in a quite a large number, except us Hungarians.

Don't worry, there are only a few forumers from e.g. Czechia as well, most posts here come from guys from Slovakia, whithout them would this forum become nearly dead. :)
But I wish there would be more threads about projects and constructions in Budapest, I'm sure that as a city with more than 2 millions people in urban area there's a lots of things going on.

And regarding alleged depression of Hungarians, I fully agree with tv123 here, I think this kind of depression or negativism is common for all post-communist countries and has nothing to do with scracity of SSC forumers from Czechia or Hungary. Main reason probably is there are not many scyscrapers in our countries either built or u/c or planned...:)

Kokpit, I agree. If the amount of forumers from a given country was determined by the current collective state of mind of it's citizens (if something like that exists), then Poland would have 5 forumers, not 500 :D

I think Panajotow has also some point what he wrote. The forum just does not deserve the name Central Europe. Just imagine, that Scandinavian and Baltic forum will be without Sweden, for example, or North American forum without USA, or Canada. The same goes here, without Poland, Austria, Slovenia and maybe some other countries it is just the improper name for the mostly Czech and Slovakian forum.

I understand Your point, but who said anything about those nations being exculeded from this forum? They are free to join. If they feel they are part of Central Europe they are welcomed here. That's why this forum was set up, to collect the urbanity and architectural topics and anything else we want to discuss from the region. Those nations are represented in the EE forum on their own free will. What would happen if for examlple Columbia declared its break away from South America, and joined the Caribbean Zone? We would call the continent 'South America without Columbia' or worse we could call it by enumerating all the names of the existing countries except of course Columbia? Or what?

What do You suggest we should name this forum than?

About the Hungarians...

I just can't accept the fact that from 10-15 million people who call themselves Hungarians only 5 knows this site exists.

BTW what is Bogota, Columbia doin' in this forum?! :nuts: I was just joking when I wrote about their imaginary break away plans! :lol:

I think is spam :( , but I like Colombia great country...

haha, daky dobrak po slovensku rozposiela mail s linkom na [Bratislava] Full Summary of Projects
;)
aj dnes to mailom doslo celej firme, nezavisle aj par kamosom.
Ked si aj kuknete kolko ma zhliadnuti, alebo kvoli Heavy traffic uz zrusili na imageshack.us niektore obrazky, ktore tam su. alebo aj pocet ludi, ktori si kukaju momentalne Central Europe: "70 (5 members & 65 guests)". Normalne to je tak 5 Guests...
:lol:

^^ já na to taky zíral a vůbec jsem to nechápal. Tak konečně vím co za tím je. Myslím že důsledek bude, že nás tu slovenští forumáci brzo převálcují. :)

Mal by si niečo podobné začať aj v Česku;)

U nás o to asi není nějak zájem, různé odkazy na ssc občas někam vlepím, ale nemá to zatím valný úspěch. Možná by to chtělo méně fotek z webu a více vlastních, ale kdo na to má čas...

haha, daky dobrak po slovensku rozposiela mail s linkom na [Bratislava] Full Summary of Projects
:lol:

minule tu bolo 105 navstevnikov...chapem teraz...

U nás o to asi není nějak zájem, různé odkazy na ssc občas někam vlepím, ale nemá to zatím valný úspěch. Možná by to chtělo méně fotek z webu a více vlastních, ale kdo na to má čas...

myslim, ze raz si nechal link na lidovky.cz a tak som objavil SSC...takze sa nevzdavaj..:)

Aj ku mne sa ten mail dostal. hehe...

dufam že nam pribudne zopár členov do Central Europe.

Linkoval na nas popularny SME blogger intony antoniaci, co ma velmi tesi lebo jeho blog cita obrovske kvantum (zvacsa vzdelanych :)) ludi. Vratane mna, samozrejme..

http://antoniaci.blog.sme.sk/c/41041/vcerajskom-dneskom-zajtrajskom-Bratislavy.html

Odporucam pozriet . Intony :applause:

infinite tak sa kukaj na kde sme linkovani ;)

http://ebankovnictvo.cybeb.net/2007/03/07/nova-tvar-bratislavy/
http://www.coolfinder.sk/?p=577
http://www.expres.sk/?action=47&id=1827
http://svajdlenkova.blog.sme.sk/c/81447/Chorvatske-rameno.html
http://markoff.biz/pivot/entry.php?id=998

^ :shocked: tak to je opravdu slušná popularizace, někomu se to podařilo rozšířit a pak to nabralo lavinový efekt. Tohle v Česku opravdu nehrozí...

Jinak alien, ještě by jsi tu summary mohl vylepšit tak, že bys v tom seznamu dal odkazy přímo na samostatné thready těch projektů. Aby to byl opravdy hypertextový seznam.

I see a lot of activity over the past days, is it time for a P&C section?

^^ better late than never, 3tmk. I say: create it!

kokpit: super napad, ked budem mat cas, tak to dorobim

3tmk: definitely

P&C section ...co to je?

A Project and Construction Section
Any quick ideas on names before I ask our admin Matthieu to do it?

thanks for answer
:)

I think "Projects & Construction Updates" suggest itself

Projects and Developments? OK, you can pass on asking us next time m))

:cheers: :)

Projects and Developments? OK, you can pass on asking us next time m))
lol yes I know, it happened incredibly quick, but keep giving ideas and in a few days I'll ask Matthieu to change it to something more local.
Of course if you like the current name, you can think of something for the subtitle instead, maybe a quick translation in czech slovak and hungarian

^ give us some time, we will discuss it

HI everybody have you see there are: NEW added sectionSSC Page ...SSC improving again :)

How about to add here
along with
Your Cities
Projects and Developments


Infrastructure Section

and there can be shifted from main section:

Hungarian Motorways
Railway infrastructure projects and constructions in Slovakia
Railway infracture projects in Czech Republic
Slovakian highways - Slovenské diaľnice
[Prague] City Ring
Metro 4 Budapest
Central European Aviation News
[Prague] Metro updates
Bratislava public transport
Czech Motorways
Railway stations - Železničné stanice
CentralEuropean Waterways
Slovakian bridges -Slovenské mosty
Czech Highways 2
[Brno] New airport terminal...


what do you think everybody?

I don't like the idea of fragmenting our forum at all!

I don't like the idea of fragmenting our forum at all!

is take time I know but then is only advantage for everyone ...outside forumers from other countries...can search easier and for us too! :) :cheers:
is easier for orientation in CE forum

i also think an infrastructure section will help:banana:

yes for sure it will help because many people from world SSC forum come to our forum and searching for info or just look for CE development...
and for new forumers is better for orientation too.. :)

3tmk, its possible to sign thread "[Bratislava] Full Summary of Projects" as sticky?

Wau vidim ze sa moj baner chytil :-))))) :nuts: .....to ma tesi

Tak ma napadlo ......... Co keby sme vizualizovali cez google sketch niektore budovy a potom ich paste do Google Earth ??? Hmm..rozmyslali ste niekto nad tym?

Ozaj kedy budu dostupne nase bratislavske nite? .....

Infrastructure section is good idea, my support.

I don't like the idea of fragmenting our forum at all!
I would call it rather categorization. Fragmenting is creating of new and new threads, which is not bad by the way.
New cathegories will make our forum more synoptic.

Infrastructure section is good idea, my support.


I would call it rather categorization. Fragmenting is creating of new and new threads, which is not bad by the way.
New cathegories will make our forum more synoptic.


It is fragmenting in the sense of creating new subforums. If we had 500 new posts a day I could see the need for dividing the forum into further subforums, but certainly not now. I am, however, the obvious minority here, so you'll have your way anyway... the glory of democracy! :D

Full support on the idea of the Infrastructure section! :okay:
Cenral Europe forums are impoving!!! :cheers: :banana: :applause:
Thank You for the P&C! :bow:

Well the problem is, if we make an infrastructure section, what will be left for the main page?

fuj konecne som to nasiel :lol:

Well the problem is, if we make an infrastructure section, what will be left for the main page?

there will left for sure plenty thread as you can see ...


in main page still will be: news, communist building, stadiums,...over 50 threads anyway...also main page can be for: OPEN threads, questions, infos about cities, economy of cites and economy countries, Eu and Central Europe counties plan for future and Eu big project in Slovakia, Czech rep. Hungary....:)

HAPPY EASTER TO ALL!!!

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1319/easterph3.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1713/easter3gh4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6867/easter2bv6.png (http://imageshack.us)

I'll be back after the Easter Holiday "roadshow"!

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9346/uefalogokw9.png (http://imageshack.us)
Big day today for Central-Europe and especialy for Croatia and Hungary.
In about 90 minutes the UEFA Executive Committee will announce the decision, whether Croatia/Hungary, Italy or Poland/Ukraine will win the EURO 2012 CHAMPIONSHIPS!

The Executive Committee vote will be by secret ballot, and the Italian and Ukrainian representatives – Franco Carraro and Grigoriy Surkis - will not be eligible to vote. A quorum of eight members will be required for validity. Each member has one vote, and abstentions or spoilt ballots will not be counted. An absolute majority - over half the votes - is needed. If there is no absolute majority in the first ballot, the bidder with the least votes will be excluded. A second ballot would then take place with the remaining two candidates. In the case of the result being level after the first ballot, an intermediate ballot will be held to exclude one candidate. Finally, the number of votes cast per bidder will be made public.

KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED!!!

Unfortunately the media is already preparing the nation for the third consecutive defeat...

BTW I heard all options recently... "Lippi has "backstage" info, that they already got the Euro Championships, so Italy is the winner. "The Ukranian representative Grigoriy Surkis, Ukraine's wealthiest man put his hand deap in his pocket, so the polish-ukranian bid is the winner"... And so on...

Nevertheless we'll know everything in about 90 minutes... I'm havin' a f*ckin' nervous breakdown... :gaah:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE LOST AGAIN.....

:badnews: :badnews: :badnews: :badnews: :badnews:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I go and jump off from the highest point of the Puskás Ferenc Stadium!!!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4289/npstadiondg1.png (http://imageshack.us)

^^
Oh, c´mon don´t be silly you have to win once.:cheers: :)

^ I agree, Hungary and Croatia will host it once for sure. Sometimes is better to wait and see, I mean you have longer time for preparation now.

Best of 2006...

http://www.indavideo.hu/video/_2006_legjobb_pillanatai_

^^
:lol: Good one! Thanks Qtya for entertaining...Give it to your wife it´s her yob! Reminds me Borat. :lol:

:ohno: This is I don´t wanna see Bratislava to end up!!!:ohno:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13243956&postcount=25

:ohno: This is I don´t wanna see Bratislava to end up!!!:ohno:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13243956&postcount=25

actually, we were not so far it.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=12071976&postcount=27

^ nevim proč ale mně tyhle mrakodrapy v uličním bloku na parcele tolik nevadí, je to takový přirozený vývoj.

actually, we were not so far it.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=12071976&postcount=27

Thank God, that there were enough sensible people to deny it!

:ohno: This is I don´t wanna see Bratislava to end up!!!:ohno:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13243956&postcount=25

For Christ's sake, WHY?! :ohno:

For Christ's sake, WHY?! :ohno:

And even next door! Really don´t quite understand!

I like it to be honest. Better than this: nothing...big gap...skyscraper...big gap...nothing. I love streets, they are what form the city :cheers:

I like it to be honest. Better than this: nothing...big gap...skyscraper...big gap...nothing. I love streets, they are what form the city :cheers:

What the hell are you smokin´? :lol: just kidding. To me it is coplete architectonic chaos and disaster (both eufemisms).

Guys, what would you say about makin at least sticky discussion/skybar thread?

^^ I'm in!

^^ I'm in!

Glad to hear that - seems that nobody´s interested! :ohno:

Count me in too!

Obviously, me too!

Good idea!

So, what should be the threads name? Ideas?

CE discussion/skybar thread?
Central European skybar thread?
Central European casual discussion thread?
General Central European discussions?
General Cental European discussion thread?
Casual Central European discussions?

So, what should be the threads name? Ideas?

CE discussion/skybar thread?
Central European skybar thread?
Central European casual discussion thread?
General Central European discussions?
General Cental European discussion thread?
Casual Central European discussions?

What an entusiastic attitude! :)
I like the last one, but I think that "CE" don´t have to be there - everybody should know where he is. ;)
So what about just Casual dicussions?

We need a Photothread, too.

-Ataman

We need a Photothread, too.

-Ataman

I'm very curious what You Guys like! :lol: :nuts: :okay:

Me too, i just know that Qtya is hanging around with nice girls, and he's got hairy arm, no idea about the others!

Me too, i just know that Qtya is hanging around with nice girls, and he's got hairy arm, no idea about the others!

An arm? Just one? It means that the other one is about to be shaved yet or what? But how come that those girls are not rather scared? Not to mention people of Budapest. :nuts:

You should have a thread to ask general things about your countries. We, as neighbors, should know more about each other. User .oreo. has already established first forum Slovakian-Ukrainian relations :okay: now we also have a new member who is 50/50 slovakian/ukrainian

But Hungary remains a complete mystery . It doesn't even feel like we have common borders :D

Yes, i think so, i guess around 50-60% of our population wouldnt even know that Ukraine is bordering Hungary. I was lucky to live there, although quite some time ago, and i was very young. The only information we get about Ukraine is the political instability.

We should do some sort of a sporting joint bid together in the future

There is the EURO2016, if people do not mind a country hosting the event two consecutive times. :)

-Ataman

I don't mind :D

2012 - Ukraine with Poland
2016 - Ukraine with Hungary
2021 - Ukraine with Slovakia
2025 - Ukraine with Belarus
2029 - Ukraine with Romania
2033 - Ukraine with Moldova
2037 - Ukraine with Russia

Jesus, we have a lot of neighbors

2029 - Ukraine with Romania
2033 - Ukraine with Moldova


I don't know about these two. :bash:

-Ataman

It's never too late to find out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania

I don't mind :D

2012 - Ukraine with Poland
2016 - Ukraine with Hungary
2021 - Ukraine with Slovakia
2025 - Ukraine with Belarus
2029 - Ukraine with Romania
2033 - Ukraine with Moldova
2037 - Ukraine with Russia

Jesus, we have a lot of neighbors

What about 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032 and 2036?

I'm afraid that I'm guilty of slight miscalculation there ;)

Mathematics nicht verstehen, lets dance!!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFWaauGPCs

-Ataman

http://www.robertsmap.com/images/Prague2.jpg

http://www.robertsmap.com

^^ spam, but anyways im going there tomorrow, thanks for reminding me :D

Right there I'd been waiting some people one month ago.:D It's in the front to "velký Baťa" if I'm right.

yeah, it's in front of the bata store

Does someone know where Timoth12 had disappeared? He wrote his last posts at March, last activity in May... it would be sad if we've lost him...

Does someone know where Timoth12 had disappeared? He wrote his last posts at March, last activity in May... it would be sad if we've lost him...

Ive sent him message month or more ago ..and he wrote me that: " he want enjoy a bit privacy" ... hopefully he will come back soon

I found this sticky thread in scandinavian-baltic subforum and I think it can be a good idea to create something like that in CE subforum. What do you think?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=420169

The last thing politicians solved is voting..heard the latest news? after the opposition handed in its proposals,and and the scandal about an individual's proposals, in just a week, 37 proposals were handed in,each by individuals...I feel that there will be voting each weekend,if this goes along...

^^ Quote from the Hungarian Motorway thread...

You know why this is happening, don't You...?

I was thinking on opening a Hungarian Economics and Politics thread, which would be a good idea under normal circumstances, but among us Hungarians we must be very-very careful... I don't want to turn the CE forum into some kind of Government vs. Opposition Arena, bashing eachother with huge words of hammers... The thread would end up like the Visiting the Csángós thread in the EE forums where Hungarians are beating Romanians and vica versa... And I fear Politics might effect the the other threads related to our loved country.

But, anyway: If You want it, we could create it. Opinion? From the non Hungarians too.

^^ Quote from the Hungarian Motorwy thread...

You know why this is happening, don't You...?

I was thinking on opening a Hungarian Economics and Politics thread, which would be a good idea under normal circumstances, but among us Hungarians we must be very-very careful... I don't want to turn the CE forum into some kind of Government vs. Opposition Arena, bashing eachother with huge words of hammers... The thread would end up like the Visiting the Csángós thread in the EE forums Hungarians beating Romanians... And I fear Politics might effect the the other threads related to our loved country.

But, anyway: If You want it, we could create it. Opinion? From the non Hungarians too.

PLEASE NO! NOT HERE!HAVE MERCY UPON US!!! the least thing we need is politics..economy is good,but no politics,i beg you!

PLEASE NO! NOT HERE!HAVE MERCY UPON US!!! the least thing we need is politics..economy is good,but no politics,i beg you!

HAVE NO FEAR! If we say no, then there won't be any. I just want to know what is the opinion here, and which group represents the majority. The NOs, or the YESes. :lol:

Economy - YES, Politics - NO :)

HAVE NO FEAR! If we say no, then there won't be any. I just want to know what is the opinion here, and which group represents the majority. The NOs, or the YESes. :lol:

Majority of people see black&white in this country...thats why this is a bad idea.

Economy thread is OK. But politics has a lot of common with economy. On the other hand, if you look at Slovakia or Czechia economy and politics threads there is not many things about politicians a politics. Both threads are mainly about statistics and so on and only marginally about politics. I don't think this would be a problem.

PLEASE NO! NOT HERE!HAVE MERCY UPON US!!! the least thing we need is politics..economy is good,but no politics,i beg you!

Very much agreed... :cheers:

Btw, 3tmk, why on earth did you close the Hungarian Motorways thread?? I doubt its too long, or is it?

Very much agreed... :cheers:

Btw, 3tmk, why on earth did you close the Hungarian Motorways thread?? I doubt its too long, or is it?

It reached the 500. post... You liked, your baby grow longer, and longer don't You?! :lol:

BTW Bikes, You should be happy! From the CE forums, the Hungarian Motorways thread reached the magical 500. post the first time!

CE-EE-EE-LEBRATION!!!

:carrot: :dance: :pepper: :booze: :dj: :lock: :applause: :cheers2: :cucumber: :tyty: :rock: :cheers1: :banana2: :righton: :cheer: :horse: :drunk: :nocrook:

BTW Bikes, You should be happy! From the CE forums, the Hungarian Motorways thread reached the magical 500. post the first time!

CE-EE-EE-LEBRATION!!!

:carrot: :dance: :pepper: :booze: :dj: :lock: :applause: :cheers2: :cucumber: :tyty: :rock: :cheers1: :banana2: :righton: :cheer: :horse: :drunk: :nocrook:

Hurray! And just tha half of it was off-topic:):):):):)Just kidding:banana:

Hurray! And just tha half of it was off-topic:):):):):)Just kidding:banana:

Personaly, I think the posts in the Hungarian Motorway thread were mainly on-topic. We kept the our mind on the concrete and steel all the way...

Personaly, I think the posts in the Hungarian Motorway thread were mainly on-topic. We kept the our mind on the concrete and steel all the way...

I was just kidding:) I figured that in other sub-forums, people talk in their native language,hence it is off-topic:)

It reached the 500. post... You liked, your baby grow longer, and longer don't You?! :lol:

Yeye haha, but no, this shouldnt have been closed the Burj thread can now go to 10k posts or something, as the forum is easily capable to handle that. So this thread closing is strange.

Yeye haha, but no, this shouldnt have been closed the Burj thread can now go to 10k posts or something, as the forum is easily capable to handle that. So this thread closing is strange.

aha interesting...
btw.: Im prefere to have also in one thread! so lets wait
for explentation of moderators or admins..

lol I can let it grow longer if you want, with the new servers and everything, the forum no longer starts lagging behind everytime a person opens a thread with over 500 posts
I think it can go to over 5000 posts or something, but I feel like 500 is the right size to better archive all the threads.
We let special threads like the Best of Skyline grow much larger though

Guys,sorry for being so-so-so off-topic,and bringing up politics,but this is the dream of every single person in this country: today,the national bureau of voting approved a question for vote. Its about the reduction of the parliament from 365 people to 193!!!
sorce:http://index.hu/politika/belfold/0731ovb/

Yes, that's quite good for Hungary. Small country with large parliament from times of Great Hungaria... :-)

Hey guys, why we don't have "skybar" subforum? :D

Hey guys, why we don't have "skybar" subforum? :D

I dont see much activity in CE,maybe that is the cause:)

Bóly tipikus kisváros, ahol minden nagyon rendben van. Tiszták az utcák, jókora park terül el a központban, és bőven van parkolóhely. Jó lehet itt élni. Sok házon meglátszik a város történelmi múltja, a városháza éppen száz éve épült, és egy csodálatos kastély is van a főtér mellett. "Régen itt volt az uradalom központja, és a vezetői mindig élen jártak, a gőzekétől a telefonhálózaton át a kisvasútig minden volt itt" – mondja büszkén Hárs József, aki 1990 óta polgármester a 3800 lakosú településen. Úgy tűnik, a modern szolgáltatások bevezetését illetően ő is tartja a hagyományt, a kábeltévés hálózatot már 1989-ben kiépítették (ebben még csak tervezőként vett részt), és 1997-ben elindították rajta a netszolgáltatást. Az eredeti fél megabites sebességet mára feltornázták több megabitre, de ez sem volt elég.

Kattintson!
Optikai szálat minden háztartásba!

A kábeltévés rendszer tervezésekor azt gondolták, hogy legfeljebb százötvenen lesznek, de az elmúlt években már négyszázötven előfizető volt, kezdett lassulni a rendszer, és a meglévő hálózaton egyszerűen nem lehetett továbblépni. Az elektronika tizenhét év alatt teljesen leamortizálódott. (Érdemes figyelni a számokra, Bólyon ugyanis körülbelül ezerkétszáz háztartás van, tehát több mint harmaduknak eddig is szélessávú elérése volt.) Eleinte szóba került a wifi és a wimax is, de nem voltak kedvezőek a feltételek, ezért mégis maradtak a kábelnél. Végül valaki azt javasolta, hogy nem érdemes az utolsó két-háromszáz métert megspórolni, hisz maga az optikai vezeték már nem drága, csak a végberendezések, viszont ennek a technológiának gyakorlatilag nincs felső határa. Jövőálló.

Minden egyes háztartásig kihúztak egy optikai szálat, és a szál mindkét végén száz megabites jelfogadó és jeladó berendezések vannak. "Bólyon belül gyakorlatilag úgy lehet hozzáférni egy másik előfizető megosztott merevlemezéhez, mint a saját gépben lévő merevlemezhez" – mondja a helyi számítógépbolt, a Perox Informatika eladója. Azzal viszont nem tud meglepni, hogy egyre többen vesznek új adattárolókat, merevlemezeket, és igencsak megnőtt az érdeklődés a drótnélküli hálózati eszközök iránt is. Persze az internetes letöltések nem mennek száz megabittel, mert a városnak összesen van százötven megabites kapcsolata a budapesti netközpont, a BIX felé. Az ügyfelek négy megabitet kapnak, mindkét irányba. Most egyébként hatszáz előfizetés van, tehát a háztartások 45-47 százalékában van szélessáv. Ami annyit jelent, hogy miközben országszerte alig-alig nőtt az internet-előfizetések száma, Bólyon kétszámjegyű volt a növekedés.
A jövő itt van

Az előfizetőknél lévő végberendezésre két analóg telefont és négy számítógépetlehet rákötni, illetve a tévéadások fogadásához szükséges kütyüt. A telefonálás Bólyon belül ingyenes, a tévészolgáltatásról pedig azt érdemes tudni, hogy több mint ötven csatorna elérhető, és a műholdas adás változatlan minőségben jut el a tévékig. "Ami fölülről HD minőségben jön le, azt úgy is továbbítjuk. Nincs sok ilyen adó, de nekünk teljesen mindegy hogyan adjuk tovább, a hálózat bírja. Ha pedig kevés lesz a száz megabit, a végberendezéseket le lehet majd cserélni gigabitesre" – fogalmaz Hárs József, és ebben a pillanatban úgy érzem, mintha egy téridőkapun véletlenül átpottyantunk volna 2040-be, és az akkori magyar valóságról diskurálnánk.

Vicces, hogy amíg a parlamentben a 2012-re kitűzött digitális átállásról vitatkoznak, addig egy eldugott kisvárosban már most elérhetőek a legmodernebb technológiák. Én Budapesten azért köttetem ki a telefonvonalat, mert a szolgáltatóm két megabites elérést sem volt képes biztosítani, a kábeltévém pedig botrányos minőségű, rendszeresen akadozik a kép, és mindig a legjobb esti sorozatok közben.

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Bólyon persze a tévé nem csak tévét jelent. A set top boxba (a jelátalakító dobozba) be van kötve egy-két világújság, az Index, a HVG, van elektronikus műsorfüzet, és az előfizetők bármikor megnézhetik az időjárás-előrejelzést. Internetezni is lehet a tévén, a Google simán megy rajta. "Egyre több szolgáltatást akarunk bevezetni, év végére beindítanánk a késleltetett lejátszást. Még az egészségügy is kihasználhatná, hogy a tévén vissza lehet jelezni: olyan rendszert szeretnének, amely a tévé elé ülő idősektől megkérdezi, hogy bevették-e a gyógyszereiket. Ha beikszeli, hogy igen, akkor az orvosnál másnap megjelenik, hogy minden rendben van" – mondja Hárs.

Év végére a bólyiaknak lesz elektronikus közigazgatási rendszerük is, és elméletileg megoldható, hogy tévén is lehessen majd időpontot foglalni az okmányirodába. "Három fiatal srác végzi a karbantartást, és nagyon beleásták magukat a kódokba, lelkesek, folyamatosan új szoftvereket fejlesztenek. Egy negyedik pedig a fizikai hálózat esetleges hibáit hárítja el" – magyarázza a polgármester.
Egy sör után beállították

Az indulásnál is szükség is volt a szakértőkre, mert nem volt zökkenőmentes az átállás. A számítógépek rosszul voltak beállítva, a tíz megabites hálózati kártyákat használók azt hitték, hogy nem is lett gyorsabb a rendszer, az új hozzáférési jelszavak beállításához pedig az önkormányzat szűkös kapacitása miatt a lakosság segítségét is igénybe kellett venni. "Szóltunk ötven embernek, megmutattuk hogyan kell csinálni, és mondtuk, hogy segítsenek ismerőseiknek, barátaiknak, szomszédjaiknak is. Elmentek, megittak egy üveg sört, vagy egy pohár bort, és beállították."

Nagyon drága volt a rendszer kiépítése, a 273 millió forintos összköltséggel számolva végpontonként több mint kétszázezer forintba került. Az Ericsson azonban húsz éves garanciát vállalt, jelenleg van kétszáz kihasználatlan szál, és a szakértők a további bővíthetőségről csak annyit mondtak, hogy tízezer fölé lehetőleg ne menjenek. A költség egyötödét állta az önkormányzat, a maradék négyötödöt a rendszernek kell kitermelni körülbelül öt év alatt. Szerencsére sokkal többen fizettek elő, mint amire számítottak, így hamarabb is megtérülhet a befektetés.

"Kábeltévére gyakorlatilag mindenki előfizetett, az internetezők számát azonban még bőven lehetne növelni. Most a nyugdíjasok felé akarunk nyitni, olyan kedvezményt vezetünk be, hogy az egyedül élő, szerény jövedelemmel rendelkező időseknek a netszolgáltatást fél áron adjuk" – mondja Hárs József. "Tíz éve tanítjuk az iskolákban a számítástechnikát, az idősek gondozási központjában is van számítógépterem, ahol négy-öt tanfolyamot lenyomtunk. Az idősek nagyon aktívak, sokuk panaszkodott is a régi kábeltévés rendszerre, mert mondjuk Dél-Afrikával sakkozott, és lassú volt a kapcsolat."

This is the sum of the post above:
There is a little village,named Bóly(yeah,M6),where 3800 people resides. Most of them has cable net, few hundred tv station,free telephone inside the settlement.The net is 4Gbit,while in Budapest, 2 is "luxury". Tv broadcasts HD, where the program is in that format.
and the best part is that the ageing residents complain about the slowness of the net,because the chess laggs,while they play with south-africans.

Is this state(I mean some rural area is more developed than the capital itself)normal in your countries?

1. go to emporis.com
2. choose any city you want (London, Paris, etc...)
3. click on "Buildings"
4. click on "Other Buildings"
5. look at the icon at "Bridges". what is that? :banana: :cheers:

Cool. for those lazy to look at it this is an icon for bridges section on emporis: http://www.emporis.com/files/circles/bridges.gif

Btw, did you know that Nový most is in WFGT? There are only 26 towers in this association, also Žižkov tower in Prague, Donauturm in Vienna, ESB in NYC, but not Eiffel Tower in Paris. Sometimes I dont regret that the extramural settlement (podhradie) was demolished :banana:

1. go to emporis.com.....
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:lol: super unexpected Our beloved UFO :lol:

well it is an iconic bridge :)

Come and jitter for Ágnes Szávay in US open!!!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15199176&postcount=24
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=15199176#post15199176

Mohol by som vás kolegov poprosiť aby ste všetci nahrávali svoje fotky na Wikimedia Commons alebo na Flickr ako slobodné diela? Totiž občas napíšem na Wikipédiu nejaký článok a mám nedostatok fotiek, napríklad som urobil Astoria Palace a nemám tam čo dať. Vďaka :)

English: Please everybody upload your pictures on Wikimedia Commons or Flickr as free images, thank you very much :)

English: Please everybody upload your pictures on Wikimedia Commons or Flickr as free images, thank you very much :)

Why there?what is the matter with imageshack and such?

Because I think it is not legally possible to use the images from imageshack in Wikipedia as free images. Or it is? I don't know.

Because I think it is not legally possible to use the images from imageshack in Wikipedia as free images. Or it is? I don't know.

You say its illegal to post my own pics,or that you cant post pics from imageshack to wiki?

Imageshack is a copyrighted website, there is written Copyright © 2003-2007 ImageShack Corp. All rights reserved. So I think the uploaded images are not public domain or GFDL, so they should not be uploaded to Wikipedia etc., I think. They are to viewing purpose only.

But, the images on Flickr can be tagged as "Creative Commons", so they can be used on Wikipedia. Also, Wikimedia Commons allows only free images, so everybody is allowed to post own free pictures.

Why do you want people to post them on wikipedia?
Let wikipedia do their own work

I am sorry, I don't want anybody to force to do something, it was just an idea how to simply share some images.

I received this message via bluetooth in Hungary two weeks ago. What is the translation to the English or Czech? Thanx
"Szeretnék Önnel szertkezni!! Ha egyetért velem kérem mosolyogjon!"

I received this message via bluetooth in Hungary two weeks ago. What is the translation to the English or Czech? Thanx
"Szeretnék Önnel szertkezni!! Ha egyetért velem kérem mosolyogjon!"

:lol: :lol: :lol:
"I'd like to make love with you!! If you agree,please smile!"
If this was real,I think you missed an opportunity:)

I received this message via bluetooth in Hungary two weeks ago. What is the translation to the English or Czech? Thanx
"Szeretnék Önnel szertkezni!! Ha egyetért velem kérem mosolyogjon!"

^^ :lol: :nuts: :hilarious :rofl: Loooooseeeeerrrrrrrr!

I received this message via bluetooth in Hungary two weeks ago. What is the translation to the English or Czech? Thanx
"Szeretnék Önnel szertkezni!! Ha egyetért velem kérem mosolyogjon!"

From now on, I'll keep my bluetooth turned on all the time... :lol:

Thanks but
:wallbash:

:badnews:

Thanks but
:wallbash:

:badnews:

Don't worry, maybe she was ugly or it was a man.:runaway: But, who knows...;)

:rofl: poor guy!

:rofl:
that's a good joke

лол

xaxa

These bloody desperate shemales...:ohno: ;)

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OH MY GOD! HUNGARIAN DAYS AT THE VÁSÁRCSARNOK... How unique! Its shame that being Hungarian in our own country is unique now days... :ohno:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9946/281119081pr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ No comment! :ohno:

OH MY GOD! HUNGARIAN DAYS AT THE VÁSÁRCSARNOK... How unique! Its shame that being Hungarian in our own country is unique now days... :ohno:

I don't understand. What is vásárcsarnok? Why are in Hungary Hungarian days?

I don't understand. What is vásárcsarnok?

Vásárcsarnok - Markethall

Why are in Hungary Hungarian days?

You are not the only one asking that question... :ohno:

Why are in Hungary Hungarian days?

Hungarian days probably means ’Day of Hungaricums’ (Hungarian specialties). Pálinka, „Szegedi” and „Kalocsai” paprika, Hungarian Grey cattle, Tokaji wines, Hungarian Mangalica pig, garlic, „Makói” onion, Pick Salami, Traubi Soda, Goulash, Letsco etc. etc.

Hungarian days probably means ’Day of Hungaricums’ (Hungarian specialties). Pálinka, „Szegedi” and „Kalocsai” paprika, Hungarian Grey cattle, Tokaji wines, Hungarian Mangalica pig, garlic, „Makói” onion, Pick Salami, Traubi Soda, Goulash, Letsco etc. etc.

You can't really buy anything else in the Vásárcsarnok on a normal day...

Hungarian days probably means ’Day of Hungaricums’ (Hungarian specialties). Pálinka, „Szegedi” and „Kalocsai” paprika, Hungarian Grey cattle, Tokaji wines, Hungarian Mangalica pig, garlic, „Makói” onion, Pick Salami, Traubi Soda, Goulash, Letsco etc. etc.

So it's Days of Hungarian cuisine.;) However, I guess those things (maybe except goulash) you can buy in every supermarket even here in Slovakia. I haven't understood because it's more usual that Hungarian or any other national days are taking place in foreign countries.

So it's Days of Hungarian cuisine.;) However, I guess those things (maybe except goulash) you can buy in every supermarket even here in Slovakia. I haven't understood because it's more usual that Hungarian or any other national days are taking place in foreign countries.

Buda-pest = Juda-pest :lol:

We have Hungarian days in Budapest. :banana: :D