They didn't waiting to long before construction of next level. This time black formwork:

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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Btw, I wonder if they removed the red formwork, or left it under the floor? I supposed they could reuse it, but as it seems it isn't the case.

^^ I think they left the formwork under the floor for a while and transport it upwards when this floor is poured. This way they can work more quickly.

Great progress! :)

^^ Yes, after a while I thought the same. In fact, I think they would wait with that until the tower will rise above the ground, so then they could use empty base to transport trash while in the same time above, construction would go undisturbed.

And btw, i just realised that we have now quite clear evidance that concrete circles have no relation to the floors locations as was rumored before.

It must be so damn hot down there...

Hi all.

And btw, i just realised that we have now quite clear evidance that concrete circles have no relation to the floors locations as was rumored before.

Hi Pat.

I agree that is the case for B4 (already done) and B3 (they are working on now), as they obviously line up with the attachment points on the supercolumns. B2 however will line up with the highest attachment points on the supercolumns and by the looks of it, with the lowest concrete ring we can see now.

The only drawing we have seen so far showing the basement levels shows B2 being much taller than the levels below it. Then B1 is taller yet on the drawing. It looks to me that these will also line up with the top 2 concrete rings. In other words the floor of B1 will line up with the second ring we can see now and the ground level will line up with the top ring (obviously).

This is what I posted some pages back but I neglected to notice the lower levels will line up with the points on the supercolumns. So - as long as the drawing has any merit we shall see where they form up the next level after this one.

Great to watch this work being done. Good pace to the progress.

:cheers:

^^ I think they left the formwork under the floor for a while and transport it upwards when this floor is poured. This way they can work more quickly.

Great progress! :)

Red formwork? - are they not the steels that make up the inside of the concrete walls? eg.
formwork| concrete |steel| concrete |formwork

That would explain why it's not being seen again.

Hi all.

Red formwork? - are they not the steels that make up the inside of the concrete walls? eg.
formwork| concrete |steel| concrete |formwork

That would explain why it's not being seen again.

Hi google.
Not sure what your trying to say ...
The red forms looked to me to be just that - forms. They looked like they will form the concrete "beams" (and of course the entire slab) we see on the "ceiling" of underground carparks. Here in North America they would be removed - I'm pretty sure everywhere else too.

Perhaps someone from China could enlighten us and correct me if I'm wrong.

:cheers:

Hi all.



Hi google.
Not sure what your trying to say ...
The red forms looked to me to be just that - forms. They looked like they will form the concrete "beams" (and of course the entire slab) we see on the "ceiling" of underground carparks. Here in North America they would be removed - I'm pretty sure everywhere else too.

Perhaps someone from China could enlighten us and correct me if I'm wrong.

:cheers:

In some cases it's planned to left forms down if it's not possible or not worth it in economical way...But I don't think this is the case here...Because I saw here A LOT of forms...:cheers:

wow big hole..:master:

Nice pic. Although it seems to go slow, i can notice they are working hard on this phase...

:omg: Oh my god, I'ts amazing!!!

how is depth the hole?

Cant wait to see this one rise im so excited :banana:

how is depth the hole?
Started out a bit over 30m deep i think.

Started out a bit over 30m deep i think.

^^ thanks for info..:cheers:

^^ Yes, after a while I thought the same. In fact, I think they would wait with that until the tower will rise above the ground, so then they could use empty base to transport trash while in the same time above, construction would go undisturbed.

And btw, i just realised that we have now quite clear evidance that concrete circles have no relation to the floors locations as was rumored before.

...I believe the circles are there to reinforce the hole and are not part of the building itself. Similar rings for the now aborted Chicago Spire served the same purpose.

Hi all.

...I believe the circles are there to reinforce the hole and are not part of the building itself. Similar rings for the now aborted Chicago Spire served the same purpose.

Hi micrip.

Yes the concrete rings are compression rings eliminating the need for internal bracing. My point about the next levels lining up with the rings isn't about using them as part of the building per se. It's about the fact that they didn't space them equally and they seem to be set where the next levels will be, based on a drawing posted here earlier.

Based on the drawing they are working on the floor of B3. B2 will line up with the highest attachment points on the supercolumns in place now. That height will be somewhere close to the lowest ring we can see now. After that they will place the next sections of the supercolumns on top of what is there now. It is then we will see where the attachment points are on the new sections and that will confirm where the next levels are going to be. If the drawing is based on the actual plans the floor of B1 will be close to the middle ring we see now as B2 is much taller than the lower levels. Then it shows B1 taller yet, placing the floor of the ground level at the top ring.

I'm just theorizing here - the drawing may not even be close to the actual plans - ie: there may be more basement levels than 5 ...
just some interesting discussion ...

We will have to wait and see ...

:cheers:

...I believe the circles are there to reinforce the hole and are not part of the building itself. Similar rings for the now aborted Chicago Spire served the same purpose.

That's kind of obvious. But some spreads the news that they may also marks exact locations of each basement level, wich is now of course not the case.

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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Nice pics. At this rate, we could see the actual building rising by the end of the year. But I wouldn't get to attached though. There was at least one other large, spiraling building of similar height to meet its doom around this stage.

Nice pics. At this rate, we could see the actual building rising by the end of the year. But I wouldn't get to attached though. There was at least one other large, spiraling building of similar height to meet its doom around this stage.

Thankfully this one looks fully paid for. So unlike the Spire, I think this one will be built.

very nice progress construction....

Thankfully this one looks fully paid for. So unlike the Spire, I think this one will be built.

and this one is in China...

Hi all.

That's kind of obvious. But some spreads the news that they may also marks exact locations of each basement level, wich is now of course not the case.

Hi Pat.
You talking about me ?
Who you calling "some" ... ?
:nuts:

It's just educated conjecture ....
But I will have to quote the above post if my guess is correct ... just so you know ... :lol:

:cheers:

^^ Nah, it wasn't about you ;) I think we both understeand that if some rings will covers with levels floors thats only because of pure coinsidence, and we also know it for sure that at least several rings aren't related to levels floors. But some told us allready at the digging stage, that rings marks the levels. I allways say it won't be the case, and now it is proved... Well, not like it's something very important anyway ;)

OMG , there are so many skyscrapers being whacked out in China. It's very great to see these magnificent highrises be chucked up all over China.

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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Damn, not that I want to complain about much appreciated updates, but couldn't jamyan have made the second picture high-res rather than the first one? Much more of the hole visible there.

Guys, they're speeding up. The previous floor took them five weeks to finish, this one not even full three weeks. Really good sign :cheers: Now they have one floor ahead and then installation of the second section of supercolumns.

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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^^ Great update, looks really good there. I'm going on holiday for the next three weeks so when I'm back I hope to see the next floor! :lol:

:cheers:

ere was at least one other large, spiraling building of similar height to meet its doom around this stage.

Not nearly.

Hi all.

Holy Moly ...

Great pace to that level (floor of B3 - ?).

:cheers:

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Is there a possibility that this development could be taller than SWFC? That would be cool!

Hillsborough does have a tall east stand but not that tall :|

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As always great update by Ciryrain :cheers: It seams they started works on the next floor (scaffolding all over the place), but as we can see simultaneously they starting installing next section of megacollumns. Thats quite smart move. Doing these two operations in the same time will save a lot of time. I'm start to believe they can reach street level way before end of the year :cheers:

^^the traffic on the left side looks really horrible :lol:

Dragon rising =) Nice update

Wow! Lots of progress on the core.

wow this is progressing nicely, the core is going to be massive!

cant wait to see the core progress on next week...

I'm start to believe they can reach street level way before end of the year :cheers:

The schedule was to have the building rising above street level (finishing the basement) before the chinese new year in february next year.

Great photo, the best angle to follow the construction !

the construction works area is so organized

the construction works area is so organized

For such a massive project i must agrre with you!!! Very neat and Organised....

The schedule was to have the building rising above street level (finishing the basement) before the chinese new year in february next year.

Now they are working on the next floor, and simultaneously installign supercolumns. That may take time up to september. Then on the beginning of the september they will still have to build two levels, thats up to two months. So I think it can easly rise above the street level even allready on the beginning of december. But we have to wait and see to be sure. Time will tell.

Anyways heres new update from jamyan, abbs.cn

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Those new columns already look like they are peaking above street level, though that may be an optical illusion due to the perspective.

Those new columns already look like they are peaking above street level, though that may be an optical illusion due to the perspective.

If you look at the right side of the picture you can see that they are just under ground level by comparing the column to the crane platform.

nice job!! Fast Go!!

One of my favourite projects.

^^
yeah it's huge project!!!!

At this point of the development, it looks like they are building a big baseball stadium!

I love watching the progress on this one. I started following the SWFC construction when it was already halfway up. Now I get to see this one from start to finish.

At this point of the development, it looks like they are building a big baseball stadium!

It would almost fit in there. Despite its width, the tower will not look bulky but very slender when finished. :)

At this point of the development, it looks like they are building a big baseball stadium!

Probably wouldn't end well if you tried running around the bases on a floor covered in rebar...

^^ Better, try to run on the floor full of scaffoldings :D

Em.. running on the rebar, sounds like Assassins Creed~~

Groundwork taking shape nicely!! I'll be in Shanghai on Wednesday and I can't wait to check out the progress myself! I guess in a few months time the core will be rising at breakneck speeds and I can't even imagine how this thread will be utterly inundated with updates!

Well, there is news that the constructer want to reach the street level by September and finish the 12th floor by the end of this year.

^^ I felt it is faster than normal, but that fast :nuts:

Well, there is news that the constructer want to reach the street level by September and finish the 12th floor by the end of this year.

http://filesmelt.com/dl/1265331447901.png

Well, there is news that the constructer want to reach the street level by September

I'm sure the constructer can reach street level by September, not sure about the building though.

^^ Considering speed of floor/2weeks it is possible to reach street level by the middle of september. And that allready is incredible speed, so made it until september is almost unreal, but lets wait and see...

Here is the link, if you can read Chinese.
http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node2314/node2315/node18454/userobject21ai427953.html

Here (http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shanghai.gov.cn%2Fshanghai%2Fnode2314%2Fnode2315%2Fnode18454%2Fuserobject21ai427953.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en) is the link to that same website sent through Google translation.

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Maybe where you come from it might take a month or two to build a single floor, but elswhere 1 floor per week is not out of the norm, some buildings have risen even by 2 floors a week.

:banana: It will be 2nd tallest building but isn't 128 floors should 142 floors
that total i don't know :rant:

^^
I believe it will have only 121 floors.

oh ok that fine, if out ground next floors may be late October or mid
and floors would 'light floors' :grouphug:

Maybe where you come from it might take a month or two to build a single floor, but elswhere 1 floor per week is not out of the norm, some buildings have risen even by 2 floors a week.

Yes, but we aren't talking about regular, but huge basement floors which are being made with no jumpforms, so doubts are reasonable. I think 1floor/week in this circumstances is impossible

Yes, but we aren't talking about regular, but huge basement floors which are being made with no jumpforms, so doubts are reasonable. I think 1floor/week in this circumstances is impossible

Hi:
From what I read, the article claims that structural work for the 5underground floors will be done in September, and the core will reach 12th floor by the end of the year. It did not claim the whole building will reach 12th floor.

Cheers,

Laojang

Hi:
... the core will reach 12th floor by the end of the year...

That makes a lot of sense.

Xie Xie for the translation Laojang

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Hi:
From what I read, the article claims that structural work for the 5underground floors will be done in September, and the core will reach 12th floor by the end of the year. It did not claim the whole building will reach 12th floor.

Cheers,

Laojang

You are right. But I don't know which way it will be built, like the One World Trade Center or the London bridge tower.

Hi:
From what I read, the article claims that structural work for the 5underground floors will be done in September, and the core will reach 12th floor by the end of the year. It did not claim the whole building will reach 12th floor.

Cheers,

Laojang

I was talking only about basement floors beeing done in September. It all depends what "in september" means. By end of september - possible, before september - don't think so.

Can't wait to see this above ground. I think once this has been achieved, the core will rise quickly no doubt. :)

Hi all.

I was talking only about basement floors beeing done in September. It all depends what "in september" means. By end of september - possible, before september - don't think so.

Some unofficial confirmation on 5 basement levels - that still remains to be seen. It kinda looks like there are more tie-in points on the new sections of supercolumns - not that they ARE all tie-in points necesarily though.

That being said, if there are 5 the next pour will be the floor of B2. I guess the basement levels could be considered complete with the pouring of the floor of B1. If they stay with the 3 weeks between pours like the last pour (which was finished July 20) , B1 could be poured in the first week of Sept.

Most would consider the lower levels done when the floor of the ground level is poured. That could be done before the end of Sept. alright. If there are only 5 lower levels of course.

:cheers:

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So, now its confirmed. One of the supercolumns clearly has just two connections, means 5 basement levels to be build as planned.

The supercolumns have already reach street level, and I can tell they aren't perpendicular now.

I can t wait anymore... please buid build build .... :)

Someone should turn those parking lots surrounding SWFC into something else, something worthwhile.

^^Yes what a waste, SWFC acquired the largest plot in Lujiazui, which could have been split to build 2 400+.

nice update picture...

Come on baby, you´re almost there ! Nice pics, its about to appear above street level soon...!

Fantastic to see this one reach street level. This one will be fun to watch.

Hi all.

So, now its confirmed. One of the supercolumns clearly has just two connections, means 5 basement levels to be build as planned.

Hi Pat.

You beat me to it.
Yes It does look like B2 (of which they are working on the floor right now) will be much taller than B3 to B5 and B1 taller yet just as the drawing posted earlier looked to me. I would hope for more prints/drawings to be posted.

On the concrete rings supporting the hole ...
I wasn't saying any levels that line up with them were anything structural.
True B3 to B5 didn't line up with the rings.
But as I posted weeks ago - it sure looks to me that the floors of B2 and B1 will be close. Of course the floor of the ground level will line up with the top ring.

:popcorn:
:runaway:

:cheers:

Someone should turn those parking lots surrounding SWFC into something else, something worthwhile.

The SWFC plan calls for the lots to be turned into a park. I assume the parking is there for overflow for the area (seeing as there are several uncompleted projects in the area). I'd say once ST is done the parking lot may be turned into a park.

The SWFC plan calls for the lots to be turned into a park. I assume the parking is there for overflow for the area (seeing as there are several uncompleted projects in the area). I'd say once ST is done the parking lot may be turned into a park.

It's because Lujiazui is severely lacking in parking, around half the buildings were designed when car ownership was limited (i.e. little demand for car parking) and the other half mostly only consider parking for their own tenants because car parking is too lower value to make it worth while building more of it. The govt is currently considering ways to solve the parking problem including using space beneath Lujiazui Park, but nothing has been decided yet. The area beside WFC will eventually become parkland but in the meantime it's a short term car parking fix.

Masssssive pillars. Damn Damn Damn!

What a beautiful tower. I love it.

by jamyan, abbs.cn, again red formwork

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The world's No. 1 skyline, Shanghai. By blackstation, bbs.fengniao.com
And such a skyline exists in a DEVELOPING country! Interesting enough...
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Beautiful pictures! Though they should perhaps be moved to the Shanghai compilation thread as they have nothing at all to do with Shanghai Center (as the building is not shown in any of the pictures)

Great pictures of shanghai.....but like maggern said not the right thread for them!!

Nice pic...!

Awesome pictures, really...

wow

The pictures are really great..although my concern is when the Shanghai Tower is completer will it obstruct the SWFC or Jin Mao from certain views?
Would be a pity

off topic, a high quality 11 minutes driving video of shanghai, hope you like it.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTkxOTY3MjQw.html

Sorry, I don't know who take the photo.
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Steel have reached street level ! Nice update !

The pictures are really great..although my concern is when the Shanghai Tower is completer will it obstruct the SWFC or Jin Mao from certain views?
Would be a pity

All buildings obstruct each other, though what's important is whether the trio will complement each other well which I think they will.

Wonderful!!! :)

That steel work is immense!!!

Look at the two workers climbing up the steel columns in the right center of the photo: one of them already being at the top, the other „cliffhanging“ midway. Already now do the workers look like mere ants in this gigantic landscape of steel.

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Is someone trying to nuke Shanghai?

All buildings obstruct each other, though what's important is whether the trio will complement each other well which I think they will.

I agree, if you look at the video on this site (go to videos section and its the 2nd one along) it has some nice street level renderings at about 2:20, and the 3 towers look good together. It also has some... inspirational music :)

http://www.openbuildings.com/buildings/shanghai-tower-china-by-gensler-profile-2209.html

Sorry, I don't know who take the photo.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4852228526_df6c59727b_b.jpg

^^^^Look like everything only steel^^^^

I think they will use the concrete.

Man, they are really hauling ass on this one.

Look at the two workers climbing up the steel columns in the right center of the photo: one of them already being at the top, the other „cliffhanging“ midway. Already now do the workers look like mere ants in this gigantic landscape of steel.

yes, it is very impressive. :cool:

I think they will use the concrete.

Off course, look at all the rebar. Most (if not all) steel visible now will be encased in concrete. :)

^^ Another very impressive tower in Shanghai. :) Great updates on the progress.

Awesome update!! At this pace, by sure the tower will rise above ground level very soon and fast!! Go Shanghai...I want to come back over there once the tower is completed ;)

Going to China for the sake of skyscraper tourism, Shanghai is indeed a very attractive destination. Though if I were to make a choice, I'd be more inclined to make a trip through the Pearl River Delta, with Guangzhou, Shenzen and Hong Kong in relatively close proximity.

Wow....! o_O

Hi all.

Holy Moly ...
They'll be pouring the floor of B2 in no time.

:cheers:

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Great regular updates from this guy... but it would be good if that first picture was taken from not such a wide angle... if it only showed the surrounding site it would be better right? But I presume the photographer is not on this board to pass this suggestion on?
I'm curious how they get those 200+ ton steels' to the site? I can't imagine a normal lorry would be able to carry them!

soon will completion of hole this great, in fact hole taken long time..:cheers:

soon will completion of hole this great, in fact hole taken long time..:cheers:

Think so ...

These guys are not hanging around that's for sure! It's going to be really fascinating to watch this tower rise over Shanghai. :)

Damn, this city looks so futuristic!

...Shanghai Tower together with SWFC and Jin Mao Tower will be the Trio Infernale of Supertall Towers :)

nice up date photo...

by jamyan, abbs.cn

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What are they doing?

I see no pictures. I think you didn't link them properly.

^^
Fixed.

Wow :banana: the construction rises now to streetlevel ! :cheers:

Soon it will rise above street level, nice progress!

nice updates ! It is going to rise quickly soon !

This is one colossal undertaking!

It will b a pleasure to watch this tower rise...its a shame Chicago could get it together well enough to have a build off

Hi all.

Wow :banana: the construction rises now to streetlevel ! :cheers:

Soon it will rise above street level, nice progress!

Hi Ruben.

The newest pics don't show if the floor of level B2 is poured yet although it should be soon or even done. The second shot is showing work being done outside the basement excavation. The giant steel bits in the hole are indeed at street level already.
Pouring of the ground level should be late september.

:cheers:

Thankiossk Cool!

has this project been renamed from shanghai center to shanghai tower??

yes ^^. a quite long time already to be exact :)

pics very nice!
i love it :x

omg . The kangaroo crane is up

I found two awesome videos on the building. On the first they just munch on the awesomeness of the building with changing angle camera view for five minutes. I even got the chills, which must've been partly due to the music as well :D Then the other one is Dan Winey describing the idea of the building in a conference or something. He brings out some cool facts about how the building consists of 8 floor parks and such! This one lasts for almost 5 mins as well.

These will be the best 10 mins of ur day ;)

Find it at http://www.openbuildings.com/buildings/shanghai-tower-china-by-gensler-profile-2209.html

Haha and the second video is uploaded by staffh XD

By 快速铁
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^^ Great! At this pace they will be able to finish the basement in September.

If by foundation you mean basement...

great progress...nice

right, thx for correction.
If by foundation you mean basement...

Wonder how long this pour will last?? Either way, I'm happy to see it! Great shots btw:cheers:

Hi all.

^^ Great! At this pace they will be able to finish the basement in September.

If by foundation you mean basement...

Hi guys.

Technically, the foundation consists of the 955 piles and the raft which is the floor of B5. So the foundation was completed in late March.

They are working on the lower levels and the shots posted today show them pouring the floor of level B2. They appear to be on track to having the floor of the ground level poured by late Sept. which was the latest schedule we've heard in here.

Great progress.

:cheers:

Well, maybe I made a mistake.
Last update is by jamyan instead of 快速铁。
8/12
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4887288952_5b29535f48_b.jpg

anyway..the tower has a fast pace..which is good :)

by seeing the size of cement mixing trucks i can now imagine the size of the humongous hole :nuts: also chinese are damn fast :banana:

just great!!!!!!

by seeing the size of cement mixing trucks i can now imagine the size of the humongous hole :nuts:

And by imagining the size of the humongous hole you can now imagine the size of the HUMONGOUS skyscraper-to-be.

And by imagining the size of the skyscraper you can now imagine how many truckloads of cement you'll need for it :nuts:

^^ and steel.. :)

The trucks all look like a child's toys. What a HUGE construction site that is.

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Damn that's a big site! They are certainly filling the hole up fast!

Whoa, just a few days ago, it was a giant hole. Now it's a giant concrete puddle.

Thanks for the post, Nordschleife. :)

Some details.
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Wow, fantastic shots! That's a lot of concrete right there! Not too far from the rim now! :cheers:

¡Amazing! :cheers:

Only in China is possible.

do not see openings for the elevator shafts

^^ Oops! :hammer:

^^ Oops! :hammer:

^^ but do you see? Show me the picture. :lol:

do not see openings for the elevator shafts

Guess there will be only stairs in this one ;)

Um, there is a rather large hole in the middle!:)

definitely a crazy construction!:nuts:

great up date progress...

^^ but do you see? Show me the picture. :lol:

See?
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See?
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I don't think we've ever seen a skyscraper with a core as big as that!
The hole is about 110 metres diameter so the core square of steels must be between 25-30 metres per side! There's going to be a lot of lift shafts in that thing!
And the scale is soooo big - one of the photos above that you could see a single worker and he looked like a lego man next to the size of the steels. Somewhere on a previous post it said those steels weight >200 tons!
I'd have thought you could get 4 of the Chicago Spire holes inside this one!

Cruising GIS - didn't think I've seen this render before...
http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2008/12/01/7_yUIix_58.jpg
I don't think the black lines will be as prevalent when it's built - they're just the edges of the windows... and I doubt they'll appear black when built

http://urbanneighbourhood.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/shanghai-super-tower-tiers.jpg ...
and I think this render has slight exagerated the height! Though it might just be caused by the perspective!

The previous 2 pictures are actually quite old..the base of the tower has changed drastically if you view the latest renders. But the tower design has remained the same, though.

Great regular updates from this guy... but it would be good if that first picture was taken from not such a wide angle... if it only showed the surrounding site it would be better right? But I presume the photographer is not on this board to pass this suggestion on?
I'm curious how they get those 200+ ton steels' to the site? I can't imagine a normal lorry would be able to carry them!

lol someone reposted and translated to chinese your post at abbs.cn where jamyan posts his updates, maybe you wish will be fulfilled ;)

I don't think we've ever seen a skyscraper with a core as big as that!

Agreed. I dare to say it is the largest.

Agreed. I dare to say it is the largest.

The core has a diameter of the size of the green building in the middle.
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Its about 380 feet/116 meters wide. For those who are curious the Chicago Spire cofferdam is only about 105-110 feet wide. This baby is huge!

Using Google Earth.
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Its about 380 feet/116 meters wide. For those who are curious the Chicago Spire cofferdam is only about 105-110 feet wide. This baby is huge!

Using Google Earth.
http://a.imageshack.us/img39/6470/stdiameter.jpg

Cheers for doing the work on this - so yes, at least 4 Chicago spires would fit into it - but in terms of actual square footage it must be a lot bigger... ok, some GCSE maths...

Chicago spire area = Pie R squared = 3.14 x (57 x 57) = 10,200 sq ft.
Shanghai Tower = 3.14 x (190 x 190) = 113,354 sq ft

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!

That hole is just monstrous! :uh:

:omg: 116 metres
btw can anyone tell me of BK?

:omg: 116 metres
btw can anyone tell me of BK?

Haha, We're going nuts when a 116 meter tower gets approved in Amsterdam. And this Godlike building is 116 meters wide :nuts:

I don't think the actual base is going to be 116 meters wide...

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/236/80mt.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/80mt.jpg/)

But 80 meters is still frikin' impressive :) What a site...

Cheers for doing the work on this - so yes, at least 4 Chicago spires would fit into it - but in terms of actual square footage it must be a lot bigger... ok, some GCSE maths...

Chicago spire area = Pie R squared = 3.14 x (57 x 57) = 10,200 sq ft.
Shanghai Tower = 3.14 x (190 x 190) = 113,354 sq ft

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!

The Chicago Spire hole is only the size of the core of the tower. Just as with the Jin Mao and the SWFC though, the Shanghai Tower is much smaller than the actual hole that being dug.

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!

and hopefully it won't end like the Spire...

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4963/hole.jpg

ho3x.... not this time...

I don't think the actual base is going to be 116 meters wide...

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/236/80mt.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/80mt.jpg/)

But 80 meters is still frikin' impressive :) What a site...
That sideways base actually makes a great looking highrise. :lol:

^^:lol::lol::lol:

Thats so funny...I almost fell off my chair
ST and Spire - similar in height, but the cores are not even close to being the same diameter...it seems to me, if Chicago were to build, half way up during construction its likely to topple over from the wind.

Thats so funny...I almost fell off my chair
ST and Spire - similar in height, but the cores are not even close to being the same diameter...it seems to me, if Chicago were to build, half way up during construction its likely to topple over from the wind.

The Spire was all-residential. ST is office/hotel. Very different purposes. Residential buildings almost always have a smaller footprint than office buildings. Keep in mind, the 100 foot wide cofferdam for the Spire did not represent the full diameter of the building. It was probably around 150ft or more. The outside edges had huge supports for the rest of the building.

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/CAI/Images/NearNorthSide/ChicagoSpire-006.jpg

Am i missing something? i don't get the joke.. :(

^^
They put a cork in the Spire construction, and the site has been stagnant for what seems like ages now.
This is just a literal representation of putting a cork in it. :D

No, he's just explaining that the base of Shanghai Tower and (if to be built) Chicago Spire
wouldn't vary that much in diameter. ST gets build well within the parameters of it's
cofferdam, and CS would become wider than the hole in the ground suggests...

^^ still chicago spire would only be like like 150 ft where as shanghai tower is like 300+ ft..........

Based on cofferdam measurements, the two buildings would look like this hehe:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5627/csenst.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/csenst.jpg/)

Cheers for doing the work on this - so yes, at least 4 Chicago spires would fit into it - but in terms of actual square footage it must be a lot bigger... ok, some GCSE maths...

Chicago spire area = Pie R squared = 3.14 x (57 x 57) = 10,200 sq ft.
Shanghai Tower = 3.14 x (190 x 190) = 113,354 sq ft

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!

:eek2::eek2::eek2:

Based on cofferdam measurements, the two buildings would look like this hehe:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5627/csenst.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/csenst.jpg/)

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My mistake- it's around 35 meters wide.

Durr. That's the point. Next time try to read what's written above the picture before commenting on it.

Daaaaamn! This tower will be HUGE!

well it has it's first in some techniques that will be used to construct it so yes..it's a very special one :)

The Spire was all-residential. ST is office/hotel. Very different purposes. Residential buildings almost always have a smaller footprint than office buildings. Keep in mind, the 100 foot wide cofferdam for the Spire did not represent the full diameter of the building. It was probably around 150ft or more. The outside edges had huge supports for the rest of the building.

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/CAI/Images/NearNorthSide/ChicagoSpire-006.jpg

From what I remember, the diameter at the base of the Spire was ~218ft.(~66.5m) It pretty much filled up the entire site with not much room between the roadway and the neighboring building. It wasn't as narrow and skinny as people are making it out to be.

this thread is off topic, kinda
i wana see this tower rise real bad

From what I remember, the diameter at the base of the Spire was ~218ft.(~66.5m) It pretty much filled up the entire site with not much room between the roadway and the neighboring building. It wasn't as narrow and skinny as people are making it out to be.

That's correct. The outer support foundation bases are in place and are covered with dirt, as is the secant wall around the perimeter. It nearly reaches the edges of the site. Refer to the now closed Chicago Spire thread (and go back to 2007-08) for many fine pix of construction in progress. This discussion is somewhat on topic as we are comparing the two buildings.

Chicago Spire looks better than this, imo, based on renders.

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NO

[QUOTE=tesseract;62152341]and hopefully it won't end like the Spire...


In the communist country it is not possible.

[QUOTE=tesseract;62152341]and hopefully it won't end like the Spire...


In the communist country it is not possible.

China is far from being a communist state nowadays...

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Almost there. :)

Who was the guy saying they can't complete the basement part till the end of September? :D

The exact phrase was "by September." Dunno about you, but for me that implies Sept. 1st. (bis September)

^^ Nah, the exact words are 'in September', and that is by Google translation.

Checking back on it you are correct that the Google translation of the article says that. It was Nordschleife who used the words "by September" before the link to the article was posted.

^^ Correct, there was discussion if it may be done by september, and it clearly can't.

Didn't someone already said the work scedule is for it to be completed by the end of September? The Google translation and the interpretations of it are irrelevant.

That basement structure could use some reinforcement. Looks way to weak.



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Hi all.

The talk a month or two ago was to have the lower levels done in Sept. When they were getting ready to pour the last level (floor of B2) they were looking to be on track for that target. Now they are well on the way to pouring B1 possibly in August - great pace. So they will definately finish the lower levels with the pouring of the ground level in Sept. if they keep this pace up.

Level B2 is near twice the height of the levels below. Then B1 will be taller yet so they did follow the only small section drawing we've seen with the 5 basement levels.

Also for whatever reason the floors of B2 and B1 do line up with the unevenly spaced compression rings around the hole as I posted months ago. :smug:

:cheers:

^^
Well, I'm not sure about it, is there any possibality that B2 and B1 have the same height? And maybe they are about 50% higher than the lower levels.
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Hi all.

Hi Nord.

You are correct, B2 is approx. 50 % taller than the levels below- my point was that it is substantially taller.
Providing the floor of the ground level is even with the top of the highest compression ring (and I would presume it will be) it will make B1 taller than B2 as I said.

Here is a labelled shot with the arrows pointing to the top of the poured floors of the lower levels.

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- The floor of the ground level will presumably be where I pointed it to be - we shall see once they get there.
- We can see the floors of B1 and B2 line up with the top of a compression ring

When I first posted on the height and number of lower levels I was going by this tiny drawing that was posted here.

http://i.imagehost.org/0593/plan_elevation.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0593/plan_elevation)

I had said it was only a possibility they would follow it and now it appears they have.

The next thing I'm noticing is the structure, once above ground, has 9 sections. The bottom includes the podium(s) and the top includes the elaborate structural top.

This is a great project and we are lucky to be able to "watch" it from the start. I do hope many more plans and drawings become available. They allow the opportunity to post on different aspects of the construction.

:cheers:

double post

Check out this model of the Shanghai Tower:

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu93/MrLavendaraiyan/IMAG0176.jpg

Pretty cool. What is that second tallest tower?

Pretty cool. What is that second tallest tower?
It is the Transbay Terminal which is a proposed building in San Francisco. If you want the link here it is: http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu93/MrLavendaraiyan/transbayterminaltower.png

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Well, I'm not sure about it, is there any possibality that B2 and B1 have the same height? And maybe they are about 50% higher than the lower levels.
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B1 & B2 should be retail so the floor height should be higher than B3 and below, which will be a car park. I believe B1 may also be integrated with the landscaping so the slab to slab height may not be higher, rather some parts may be left with no roof so landscaping can be done below ground level. This was posted on here by someone previously:

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Hi all.

Hi Nord.

You are correct, B2 is approx. 50 % taller than the levels below- my point was that it is substantially taller.
Providing the floor of the ground level is even with the top of the highest compression ring (and I would presume it will be) it will make B1 taller than B2 as I said.

Here is a labelled shot with the arrows pointing to the top of the poured floors of the lower levels.

http://i.imagehost.org/0537/10_04_20_from_the_site.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0537/10_04_20_from_the_site)

- The floor of the ground level will presumably be where I pointed it to be - we shall see once they get there.
- We can see the floors of B1 and B2 line up with the top of a compression ring

When I first posted on the height and number of lower levels I was going by this tiny drawing that was posted here.

http://i.imagehost.org/0593/plan_elevation.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0593/plan_elevation)

I had said it was only a possibility they would follow it and now it appears they have.

The next thing I'm noticing is the structure, once above ground, has 9 sections. The bottom includes the podium(s) and the top includes the elaborate structural top.

This is a great project and we are lucky to be able to "watch" it from the start. I do hope many more plans and drawings become available. They allow the opportunity to post on different aspects of the construction.

:cheers:

The problem is, if you check the position of the B1 floor, it is actually higher than the compression ring. See the last update, there is a cabin built right on the compression ring, I believe it is now kind of below the B1 level.
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^^ - touche

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Man this tower is kickass! A long way til 2014 (when they complete it) :)

They started digging at the end of November 2008. Could be 2 years just to get to ground level, then another 3-4 years to finish the rest! Meanwhile buildings surrounding it which are by world standards still quite tall pop up out of nowhere in 2.5 years.

^^ yes but none around it are built to this scale and complexity......

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OMG - they're at ground level with all those steels now. This thing is sooooo big it's insane! Maybe we'll get above ground in a fortnight! Then 2 floors a week for a year and a bit!

^^ it is still on B1 not the ground level and i doubt that they will be able to pull off 2 floors a week............but then it is in china :)

They started digging at the end of November 2008. Could be 2 years just to get to ground level, then another 3-4 years to finish the rest!
I belive it will get to ground level at the end of this year... and T/O by the summer of 2013.

^^ You do realise that the end of the year is more then 4 months away, don't you :doh:


^^ yes but none around it are built to this scale and complexity......

Exactly, here in Dubai a 285 meters tall residential tower of 60 floors, was build from breaking ground to handover in exactly 2 years, very, very fast, but still it should serve as no comparison, considering the magnitude of the Shanghai Tower. :cheers:

Just wait to see what will happen next>>>>

^^ You do realise that the end of the year is more then 4 months away, don't you :doh:

I see a lot of progress in the last 4 months, so I can hope it will in the next 4...

I see u reserve ur optimism only for Dubai projects... :|

^^ I'm talking about the total opposite :doh:

^^ I'm talking about the total opposite :doh:
I'm sorry... well... even tomorow is "by the end of the year". :D (din't say AT the end of the year)

Fantastic shots here of the basement construction, will be following this one closely!

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Oh Man, I love you!!! This project is the best of all！！！

The design is awesome!!!! Just like in Dubai...
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no, nothing like dubai.

^^
Second that , Dubai hasn't really got any good design, vast majority of it's tower look like drawn by 8 year olds. I think it says something of the tastes of local "elite"

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Second that , Dubai hasn't really got any good design, vast majority of it's tower look like drawn by 8 year olds. I think it says something of the tastes of local "elite"

guy that's just your opinion and none asked for it :bash:

UUUUUH, somoeone hit a nerve, lol. It is his opinion, one I happen to agree with, but then, no one asked for that either.

Loving watching this one rise, the scale is simply massive, Keep those pictures coming.

Those who are not interested in other people's opinions wouldn't be members of forums in the first place, would they? It is a sort of contradiction in itself. Of course should we be interested in other people's opinions. That is the spice of life. That is the point of all threads in this and all other forums. I might not share other people's opinion but that is a good thing.

I agree that Shanghai's beauty beats Dubai (but I would use more subtle words). I love the organic and metaphorical design of its mayor landmark buildings.

Besides: the threesome Jin Mao, SWFC, and Shanghai Tower is (going to be) the most exciting skyscraper ensemble worldwide.

Well is this now just my opinion or is it already a well established fact?

well i haven't said i am not interested in your opinions, i said none has asked for another unnecessary 'I-hate-Dubai-comment'...

btw this may be three nice towers but they can't beat the tallest block in Dubai IMO.

btw this may be three nice towers but they can't beat the tallest block in Dubai IMO.

maybe they can't beat it with height, but overall area in Shanghai is way nicer (with better skyline and planning) than sands and desert everywhere in Dubai (with dead palms, no public footpaths, and without any citylife, etc...). Dubai is soulless, but as I'm skyscraper fan, I need to admit it that buildings in Dubai are amazing, but only buildings.

maybe they can't beat it with height, but overall area in Shanghai is way nicer (with better skyline and planning) than sands and desert everywhere in Dubai (with dead palms, no public footpaths, and without any citylife, etc...). Dubai is soulless, but as I'm skyscraper fan, I need to admit it that buildings in Dubai are amazing, but only buildings.

no citylife :lol:

no citylife :lol:

I think Shanghai has much more citylife then Dubai. Infrasture wise Shanghai is also much better.

I think Shanghai has much more citylife then Dubai. Infrasture wise Shanghai is also much better.

i am not comparing the cities, but he said that there was nothing in dubai except buildings.. what a big joke!!!

Well, I believe it a matter of population, when a city has over 20 million people, the so called "citylife" just become all too visible. Anyway, both cities are great.