Hi all.

To me this seems to have slowed down in the last month or so. How many floors have they added to the core, almost none it seems.

Hi google.

Just before 11 04 08 they added another set of 2 level high columns - the top of those are just above the floor of level 17. They have jumped the core form again as well.

:cheers:
Ray.

thanks fury. so woul lev17 be about 70m high? i want to update my diagram next week

thanks fury. so woul lev17 be about 70m high? i want to update my diagram next week

The floor height of level 17 is:
6.4+5.66+5.58+5.58+5.58+5.68+4.5+5.35+4.5*8=80.33m.

^^You mean the floor height of 17 levels lol.

^^You mean the floor height of 17 levels lol.

Oops, my mistake.

they are all very very beautiful~But I never close to them

cool to see the model, i was wondering exactly how it would look with detail

The floor height of level 17 is:
6.4+5.66+5.58+5.58+5.58+5.68+4.5+5.35+4.5*8=80.33m.

80m? does that include the red beams too?

80m? does that include the red beams too?


The top of the "red beam" is a little bit higher than the floor of level 17.

will it really be that taller than Jin Mao, ouch

张铁武
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/3e4e7585gw1dgbhqp5rksj.jpg

严帅斌
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/75eabbfdjw1dgbsi0m0nqj.jpg

it seems very busy on top.

It's about time the supercolumns grow again.

the cranes like red monsters...

黑色金属
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6f3019f9jw1dgcd3h0rrij.jpg

Those additional yellow half brackets on site makes it look as though the cranes are about to jump. Will be interesting to see how they do it.

Is it me or does the footprint of the tower look smaller than JinMao and SWFC

Is it me or does the footprint of the tower look smaller than JinMao and SWFC

You just see the core or what?…

the core jumped up again right?

The core jumped one floor yeaterday, and another half floor this moring, kind of weird.

Is it me or does the footprint of the tower look smaller than JinMao and SWFC

I am assuming that the core is only for the elevators. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Refer to this post (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75754745&postcount=6943) for a size comparison as of now.
:cheers:

what are those orange beams on the floor for?

By mori
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/19/11041919536a8a637918cf42e7-005b1-005d.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/19/110419195494b1f5b89fa4a3d1-005b1-005d.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/19/110419195400a530d1056157f3-005b1-005d.jpg

Absolutely time for a crane jump, the core is rocketing upwards!

that is some real progress from the core.

The core will reach 48 floors and the remaining part of the tower will reach 36th by the end of this year.

when do you think we can see the first few floors?

when do you think we can see the first few floors?

We're already on the third floor.

^^ sorry not to have made my point clearer, I mean the facade on the first few floors

^^ sorry not to have made my point clearer, I mean the facade on the first few floors

Probably won't be until the end of the year, as you need some good space between new construction of floors and the fragile glass. That's purely speculation though.

When's the completion date?

Tell me about a few floors between the new floors and the fragile glass, here in the Third Worls there's a building called 600 Brickell and it topped out over a year ago but it's still not done. To this day they're still breaking windows on it while working on the interior. One is spiderwebbed right now and a bunch are plywooded over.

Probably won't be until the end of the year, as you need some good space between new construction of floors and the fragile glass. That's purely speculation though.

I remembered that when SWFC reached 30-40 floors(the core was around 40th fl.), there were about 10 floors with facade installed. Since Nordschleife mentioned ST would reach its 36th fl by the end of this year, I was wondering if we could see some facade before that. But they are different towers, and ST facade is much more complicated, so I guess it probably will take longer to install.

very nice update progress

I remembered that when SWFC reached 30-40 floors(the core was around 40th fl.), there were about 10 floors with facade installed.

Check this out.

By cityrain

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/2/10/54574_1146318731-005b1-005d.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/2/10/54574_1146749576-005b1-005d1297328987078.jpg

^^thanks for the pictures. I checked the reports in 2006, they started installing facade on SWFC a few days after the core reached 40th fl. I made a mistake and was thinking of a picture taken in June 2006--one month after the first piece of glass was installed.

^^thanks for the pictures. I checked the reports in 2006, they started installing facade on SWFC a few days after the core reached 40th fl. I made a mistake and was thinking of a picture taken in June 2006--one month after the first piece of glass was installed.

Yeah, so we might have the chance to see the cladding this year.

Wow. Look how tiny the core is in the SWFC compared to Shanghai Tower.

SWFC looks like Dalian Eaton does, very similar construction plan.

Shanghai's changed alot since my 2000 visit. There was only Orieantal Paerl and part of the Jin Mao back then, now we see so many 100m to 300m for km and km's. Wonder if there are still street vendors out at night for shanghai noodles?

diagram update
is this right guys?
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4972/pingapril20.jpg

晒太阳啦艾尔文
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7139dacatw1dgex435jitj.jpg

diagram update
is this right guys?


Are there 12 floors between 40th and 44th?

^^ yeah Lv41 - Lv43 = 12 :)

Are there 12 floors between 40th and 44th?

I think "40th" is a typo, it should be '30th'.

Hdsghvoizp

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/20/1104201816c83c328bc07d7974-005b1-005d.jpg

晒太阳啦艾尔文
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7139dacatw1dgex435jitj.jpg

Looking good. What are they building on that other construction site to the upper right in the picture?

Looking good. What are they building on that other construction site to the upper right in the picture?

Oh man, this question has been asked for at least 4 times.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=391698&page=349

Oh man, this question has been asked for at least 4 times.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=391698&page=349

Probably more than that...

yes lev30 should read lev40. sorry fixed.

Hdsghvoizp

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/20/1104201816c83c328bc07d7974-005b1-005d.jpg


Far from finish, but it will come.

Wonder picture Nordschleife, very informative.

Oh man, this question has been asked for at least 4 times.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=391698&page=349

Some people follow this thread more closely than other people. It is easier and takes less time for us to answer the question than having the person flipping pages through the thread in order to find the answer himself. Having been asked numerous times only shows that people on this forum are genuinely interested in skyscraper constructions :)

^^
Thank you
I second that

Wow, the super huge tower is growing fast!!

The opposite construction site is so tiny compared to SH's..:)

Source: xitek.com
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3325/15126821303359585.jpg

because it has such a huge base it doesnt look very tall, but when you see it together with the people around is MASSIVE

the last pic is a very good comparison!

By cityrain

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/54574_1303386873-005b1-005d.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(2).jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(3).jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(4).jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(5).jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(6).jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(7).jpg

Supercolumns are finally growing again. :)

nice pictures

finally the cranes grew! and i can see the shape of the tower coming up

Nice pictures, and update.

What a fantastic set of pictures. Those supercolumn sections seem so short, but looking at them they must weigh plenty even so.

Source: xitek.com
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3325/15126821303359585.jpg

Wow. We've still got a LONG ways to go. But it will be an amazing journey. Thanks for all the recent updates everyone :)

Nice photomontage! Will be a wonder of contemporary architecture!

new叶
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/46a4c285jw1dggy9zca4dj.jpg

Nice pictures, and update.

comrade, I like your signature :cheer:

^^ :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

Yeah that image sort of gives a good idea just how far this one has to go really!

Will be cool to watch it go up in the next few years!

By hdsghvoizp
This is the aim of this year.
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110422/1104222026a9ab2aa30e44681b.jpg

230m sounds pretty legit and possible by the current speed :)

I just noticed that if these plans are accurate, then it seems they are not going to start cladding before the end of the year. Its actually what I have expected. It is so complex that it will be some time until they will start working on it.

^^^Sounds just about right. But oh my, this tower is really "fat".

I think there'll be a lot of people on this site getting a "fat" when this ones done...including me:lol:

^^ Seriously though, I think ST will have a fairly thin aspect ratio(height to width ratio)when it's completed.
Looking at the plan Nordscheife just posted, ST proper( not including the shopping area on the first 5 or so levels)
is approx 90 metres wide at the base, tapering to about 60 metres wide at the top, so bout an average of 75 metres wide with a height of 630 metres:nuts:, it 's average height to width ratio is about 9:1 or about 7:1 from the base.
Just as a comparison the Sears Tower in Chicago is 442 m high and a width at base of approx 69 metres, which works out to a ratio of about 6.5:1.

Don't worry, when this thing is up, with its twisting shape and ENORMOUS SIZE, it'll be the envy of many!:cheers:

from 葛清
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/417927afjw1dgifonch39j.jpg

And more pics.

Clearly they are still not satisfied with the result.

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/417927afjw1dgifzdgup0j.jpg

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/417927afjw1dgig55f7t1j.jpg

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/417927afjw1dgiggx5xolj.jpg

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/417927afjw1dgigrzl4yaj.jpg

Is it dimming glass?! Or perhaps polarized?

I don't know when the pictures were taken, but would it be too much to ask for pics of the facade from the outside? :p

^^
These pics are taken today.
By the same person, 葛清, about 2 weeks ago.
http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/417927afjw1dg15r0hym8j.jpg

Is this 马休 seen in 葛清's weibo the designer Marshall Strabala? Seems he's also checking the test facade in the factory.

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/417927afjw1dgiglm08stj.jpg

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/417927afjw1dgigzxfcenj.jpg

He apparently does not need rigging to protect him from falling. :ohno:

^^
These pics are taken today.
By the same person, 葛清, about 2 weeks ago.
http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/417927afjw1dg15r0hym8j.jpg

Are there any different views of the outside? I'm curious to know what it looks like when the sun's shining on it, at night, etc.

^^
I like those lines...very sleek look

moyan808
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/24/109572_1303545609-005b1-005d.jpg

陆班比
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/648b027ejw1dgirurzcgzj.jpg

Picture... So... Big... So... AWESOME! :D

why is the cladding not satisfactory?

this project 128 fl - 0 - Wow!!!!!!

Hey! Nice tower!

梅小小小雨
New steel.
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/6ac7524ejw1dgjpvdgmkgj.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5067/5644940985_44489826c1_z.jpg

some diagrams

Link: http://patricksloan.net/2011/04/supertall-towers-studio505/

By mori

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252015db0129a2166ea9f5.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252015f7d392d87b9117c6.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252015aff35033fef6cad4.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/110425201674a4dce583711fe7.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/110425201618d34c2666deab1f.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252016dd92e3f408f5bd0f.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252017104675e78e5b2ecb.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/110425201796c45c08a155d23c.jpg

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110425/1104252018ce69354219b4b463.jpg

wow nice pics the tower looks so large all of a sudden!

very nice update photos, also great progress

The core itself could be a building! XD

Photo by WL Chieh
PS by moyan808
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/26/109572_1303743733.jpg

Wow construction really stepped up today :lol:



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Any idea on what is being built in front of Shimao Riverfront towers? About time someone did something with that land!!!

Shanghai Tower reminds of ICC when it was in its earlier phases of construction. Probably see the same kind of turn around time. Overall, it looks like they're making great progress.

This Tower will look absolutely great when finished. Very Futuristic!

Photo by WL Chieh
PS by moyan808
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/26/109572_1303743733.jpg

I hate how shanghai tower makes swfc look so small and i hate how swfc makes jinmao look so small hahahaha

Will the shanghai tower be that tall? I think when the tower is completed, it will resemble more of the planned cbd that the gov has. At the moment, besides oriental pearl, it doesn't look that resembling lol

^^ very impresive, for the first time i visited shanghai in 2006, jinmao was the tallest and i paid 100 rmb to enjoy the view on top, then in 2010 i found swfc right behind jinmao, couldnt help myself again, i went to a travel agency then i enjoyed the view on 94th 97th and 100th floor, i think next time i will be on shanghai tower, just waiting.........:cheers:
funny enough, when i was at shanghai peoples square i saw swfc and i thought it was near so i walked towards it, damn, i didnt know it was far away and i had to cross a river, LOL, but i enjoyed a boat ride too, with a spectacular view of skyscrapers, cant forget that experience

oh hi shanghai tower, over night you topped out i see :D

What are the odds in 10/15 years they'll build a skyscraper right next to the three brothers even taller then Shanghai Tower? XD

What are the odds in 10/15 years they'll build a skyscraper right next to the three brothers even taller then Shanghai Tower? XD

Well, I don't see any chance.
But anything could happen, who knows.

What are the odds in 10/15 years they'll build a skyscraper right next to the three brothers even taller then Shanghai Tower? XD

i dont think there is any free plot to support an even taller building right now

^^
That's true. The only chance for Lu Jiazui to bulid a even taller building is to locate it in the central lawn.

maybe they can demolish a short and old building and make a taller one instead

maybe they can demolish a short and old building and make a taller one instead

i dont think another tall tower is needed in pudong for the next 2 decades, but well who knows

I don't think a building taller than Shanghai Tower would be that great in Lujiazui - ST will already dwarf every single building around it without an even taller building; looking at that picture/render above you wouldn't guess that Jinmao was over 400m!

A couple more supertalls between 300-400 would be nice to give the skyline more variation - atm there are loads of 180-250m buildings then the big 3. There's probably no more plots left though!

impresive pictures. The tower its very tall

There can be another tall tower in Shanghai, it is a good place for them, only it is when it will happen. Maybe a stalinist tower would look good + make the country's ideology look good too.

By hdsghvoizp
This is the aim of this year.
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110422/1104222026a9ab2aa30e44681b.jpg

Could someone who knows this project well please explain:

How are the 128 storeys counted ?

I counted through the floors on the diagram, and get 120, maybe plus or minus 1 or 2.

I know that some Chinese buildings skip certain numbers that have 4's in them, but with that, I would come up with a different number.

Is it possible that by the time the whole structure is in place, that it may acquire additional floors above 128 ? This has happened with many well-known tall buildings recently. ( I can't quote names on here. )

Next question:

At this early stage, does anyone know what the elevator configuration will be ?

Thank you

Shanghai Tower design team, posted by wsglm
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110426/1104262230ef7c48aab56d5a37.jpg

A big :applause: for all of them.

I wonder what it feels like to be working on and designing and watching on of the tallest buildings in the world grow up. I hope one day I'll be doing it :)

Its really big in the base, nice updates! Beautiful from everywhere!

beautiful tower.

I don't think a building taller than Shanghai Tower would be that great in Lujiazui - ST will already dwarf every single building around it without an even taller building; looking at that picture/render above you wouldn't guess that Jinmao was over 400m!

A couple more supertalls between 300-400 would be nice to give the skyline more variation - atm there are loads of 180-250m buildings then the big 3. There's probably no more plots left though!

I guess they can build another supertall in Puxi, somewhere around Jin'an or Xujiahui. They can somehow sorta achieve the Hong Kong ICC and the 2IFC effect :p

I guess they can build another supertall in Puxi, somewhere around Jin'an or Xujiahui. They can somehow sorta achieve the Hong Kong ICC and the 2IFC effect :p

^^ Agreed. Needs some variation on Puxi.

Hi all.

Could someone who knows this project well please explain:

How are the 128 storeys counted ?

I counted through the floors on the diagram, and get 120, maybe plus or minus 1 or 2.

I know that some Chinese buildings skip certain numbers that have 4's in them, but with that, I would come up with a different number.

Is it possible that by the time the whole structure is in place, that it may acquire additional floors above 128 ? This has happened with many well-known tall buildings recently. ( I can't quote names on here. )

Next question:

At this early stage, does anyone know what the elevator configuration will be ?

Thank you

Hi Library - fancy meeting you here ... :)

Looks to me there is no ground level - the count starts at level 1 and doesn't skip any. The other plans I have say 120 levels. The 128 includes the parapet and will not be the official CTBUH count IMO. It's like the count of 205 for the BK, or 163 for India Tower - just an equivalent number if there were levels right to the top - which there aren't.

Elevator info - thanks to Helghast for the find.

http://i55.tinypic.com/29zwkn6.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2due1k1.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/1gpr2p.jpg

:cheers:
Ray.

I guess they can build another supertall in Puxi, somewhere around Jin'an or Xujiahui. They can somehow sorta achieve the Hong Kong ICC and the 2IFC effect :p

Yeah bring on the Xujiahui Tower and redesign it to be 500+. :nocrook: I live right next to the construction site so thats why, hahaha.

Oh and BTW, I almost forgot! Last Saturday (23rd April) I took this night shot over Shanghai Tower. :) Enjoy!

http://oi52.tinypic.com/rjjuhu.jpg

Great diagrams Ray! Might need some clarification on them though... :lol:

Very interesting angle Jonipoon, is that from BEA tower or CITI Bank tower?

I guess they can build another supertall in Puxi, somewhere around Jin'an or Xujiahui. They can somehow sorta achieve the Hong Kong ICC and the 2IFC effect :p

right on the other side, i like that

the tower looks so massive at night!!!!!

Shanghai Tower design team, posted by wsglm
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110426/1104262230ef7c48aab56d5a37.jpg

A big :applause: for all of them.
Really? so many girls? that's not very usual in the construction world, I don't see that proportion of girls in this forum XD.

I don't think that's the main team as Gensler was the architecture firm. This might be interior workers, designing specific sections or perhaps the entire interior.

its rising fast!!

Very nice tower + fast progress.

Very interesting angle Jonipoon, is that from BEA tower or CITI Bank tower?

It's taken from a flat at Fraser Suites. (And no, I dont live there, unfortunately :lol:)

lovely progress photo at night time

Nice picture update. Lujiazui looks really amazing here. :)

唐唐1979
http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/61d0161ejw1dgp75gm3uyj.jpg

thanks ecoli and nordshleif the towers shape can be easily visible from that angle

^^I think like people have said before it is the cladding that is really going to shape this tower not the floor plate :_)

BIM专家俱乐部
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/697d1a1cjw1dgrfa6lif1j.jpg

will the super-columns be covered in concrete?

^^ Yep, you can see green scaffoldings following each supercolumn - thats the place where concrete works are going. Generrally, we can be pretty sure each piece of steel covered with lots of bolts like these below will be covered with concrete.

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/4/21/ST-0020(5).jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9832/1812490e4cc1930790c4.jpg

I don't think these were ever posted before:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8417/18170b967b1b3e5f49d.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4441/181730cb1abeb8d4785.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5606/18176b256d94b6010f4.jpg

rollercoaster? lol, would be fun hahahahaha. so shanghai is special compared to other chinese cities in the sense that they don't use bamboo scaffolding?

扎伊釆夫
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/681b540bjw1dgrycscigqj.jpg

Looks like that'll be a bitch to construct XD

I don't think these were ever posted before:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8417/18170b967b1b3e5f49d.jpg
Will probably shit my pants riding on that:lol:

in the first of patrykus pics is the grey beam on top of the supercolumn the brace for joining the super column and core wall?

rollercoaster? lol, would be fun hahahahaha. so shanghai is special compared to other chinese cities in the sense that they don't use bamboo scaffolding?

They may not be using bamboo scaffolding on this tower, but it's extensively used on other projects in the city.

may be because the other towers are low budget ?

Or china is running out of bamboos D:

Maybe they are doing that later after the core is up.

http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_110503/110503082462efae075d1e0e58.jpg

樱樱无敌
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/75590b3ajw1dgtqtdsvscj.jpg

is that the first floor?

Nice

good to see this one rising, by far my favourite supertall right now.

ive noticed with chinese bldgs, there is massive core with hardly space left for floor plate? sort of 50%.
i would think it would be more economical to have a smaller core?
great updates btw

ive noticed with chinese bldgs, there is massive core with hardly space left for floor plate? sort of 50%.
i would think it would be more economical to have a smaller core?
great updates btw

They make up for it with height!:banana:

Also most office towers house substantial amount of working space in the core. That being said, this core is made up entirely of elevators it seems...

ive noticed with chinese bldgs, there is massive core with hardly space left for floor plate? sort of 50%.
i would think it would be more economical to have a smaller core?
great updates btw

The core is 30*30m, and the floor of zone 2 is 76.5m in diameter, that means, the core occupies about 20% of the floor space.

ive noticed with chinese bldgs, there is massive core with hardly space left for floor plate? sort of 50%.
i would think it would be more economical to have a smaller core?
great updates btw

This building doesn't look as though it thins out too dramatically as it goes up though, unlike the burj for example. The core must thin out a lot as it gets higher though, so by the time it gets up near the business end the ratio should be a lot more favourable.

thanks guys, core looks bigger.
gonna be a great skyscraper to watch grow. ill update diagram soon upagianst other talls like skytree and burjD

Oh ,They speed are very fast ! They mathice is big !

It should get very interesting from this point upwards. They are at the first 'sky lobby' connections, so we should see a dramatic difference in the next few days/weeks.

夜幕下的91号
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/6af7ba44jw1dgwbfbb4m9j.jpg

夜幕下的91号
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/6af7ba44jw1dgwbfbb4m9j.jpg

It looks so much taller and imposing from that angle:cheers:

it doesnt look tall at all for me, but that is because its so freaking huge in all directions and not only in height

By syuxu
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/5690302662_b20e3bb186_b.jpg

Next crane jump aproaching :)

Those condo's right beside it will probably jump in price when this is up and finished, anyone know what a sq/m would sell for now in that area of Shanghai?

Those condo's right beside it will probably jump in price when this is up and finished, anyone know what a sq/m would sell for now in that area of Shanghai?

Those condos are already the most expensive in the world... somewhere around $25k+ a square meter. I remember one sold a couple years back at well over $30k a square meter. There are quite a few units left vacant in Tomson Riviera, and I remember reading that they are trying to limit sales to 1-2 units a month to try and get more when the market recovers.

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Interesting angles... However I dont see that much difference from one month ago yet!

Interesting angles... However I dont see that much difference from one month ago yet!

Well, you can do some comparison.

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Nice now we see the round shape.

lol, one month ago someone was also saying 'I can't see much difference from one month ago'. time to make another month by month picture.

Wow wow wow. This is going to be epic- if this looks anything like the renders then I have a new world favourite!

It's rising around 1 floor a month or so, am I wrong? :(

I think it's just because the podium/base will be so massive and important to supporting the building, they must take extra care. Also, if I recall correctly, right now, the core is at the sky garden level, which probably also takes lots of care to construct properly. So yeah. After the podium is finished, it'll probably shoot up. But every couple months when they hit the sky garden, it'll slow down a bit again.

Just my thoughts and predictions :)

4 floors per month

Anyone got any idea what is that horizontal steel beam there for? (to the right of the pic)

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Anyone got any idea what is that horizontal steel beam there for? (to the right of the pic)

I once saw a video, where this was explained. the outer facade will be hanging from these reinforced steel sections. that's why they're not equally long around the megacolumns (as the design of the tower is fluent ...)

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Yes, they are now constructing garden section floor. These floors are directly connected to the cladding, hence theirs irregural shapes.

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So you are saying that cladding will be that much further out from the floor plate? Then the tower is going to look a lot larger than just what we see now.

It seems so.

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In this drawing, what are the elevators, stairs, and bathrooms?

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Hi all.

Wow - lots of work going on.

Here is a drawing of the radial trusses they are installing now.

http://i52.tinypic.com/v7f41y.jpg

As we can see, they extend out to the outer curtainwall - hense they don't form a round shape. The outside edges of the supercolumns are where the round inner curtainwall will be. All of the levels except the first of each zone will be the size of the inner wall. The first level of each zone will extend to the outer wall - these will be the sky garden levels.

The radial trusses are on level 7 forming the floor of level 8 sky garden which is the first level of zone 2.
Here is a shot from January (from Mori I think) I've labelled.


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The next radial truss level is 21 with level 22 as a sky garden and the first level of zone 3.

:cheers:
Ray.

Considering the magnitude of wind force on a curtainwall, it is amazing that these days they can construct a curtainwall that is only anchored every 20 floors or so. That curtain of glass must flex almost as much as a real curtain in high winds.

Hi all.

Considering the magnitude of wind force on a curtainwall, it is amazing that these days they can construct a curtainwall that is only anchored every 20 floors or so. That curtain of glass must flex almost as much as a real curtain in high winds.

Hi Traynor.

The radial trusses are there to anchor the outer wall and to support the floor of the sky gardens between the inner and outer walls.

The outer wall is also anchored at every level in a number of places around the perimeter.

http://i56.tinypic.com/25tizab.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2eanj8n.jpg

:cheers:
Ray.

^^
Wow that is a huge amount of empty space. That must be one of the apexes in the curtain wall. Also pretty optimistic looking occupants if this is to be a public space :lol:

a guy like that wouldn't be allowed in the building.

^^ Thanks so much Fury, for the explanation and the visual aids. That makes way more sense. All the cross-section renders I have seen so far did not show these trusses and I just knew they had to be there.

:cheers:

Hi all.

YW Traynor.

Guys, another building with the same arrangement of 2 walls with an open atrium space every so many levels is The Bow in Calgary, Canada.
It's only on one side and the structure is only a third as tall as this (but still will be one of the tallest in my country when completed), but it is a cool design feature.

:cheers:
Ray.

^^
Wow that is a huge amount of empty space. That must be one of the apexes in the curtain wall. Also pretty optimistic looking occupants if this is to be a public space :lol:

Maybe something like this is a little more realistic:

http://www.podiumpundits.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/homeless-bums-tramps41.gif

In architecture there is a HUGE difference between "public" space and what may truly be public space (like a road level park). When a good amount of architects use the word "public space" they simply mean a service area (ie, a kitchen or living room in a house) versus a "private space" that would be a bedroom or separated study. In an office building this could be compared to a lobby and an executive office room or conference room.

Thanks Fury. It seems I haven't seen you in a while!

Thanks for the updates, very illustrating. Its progressing fast ! Looks very nice!

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Odd. No Chinese people in this render!

Maybe they're trying to say that this tower will be a tower for people of all races? XD

^^

Or the render is just designed by an American firm, who use western people standardly.
Like they have those figures in some database, but they just don't have Chinese people in there.
And this is just a detail, it's not about the people, but about the building so who cares if that's not totally right :)

I think there will be a lot of westerners in Shanghai Tower just like in SWFC. Firms that can afford to rent a floor in such buildings are most likely to be multinational.

I was granted a unique opportunity to visit the site of the Shanghai Tower. I was allowed access to the top floor of construction (18th floor). I took a lot of pictures and I will be uploading them shortly.

^^Cant wait! When was this?

^^

Or the render is just designed by an American firm, who use western people standardly.
Like they have those figures in some database, but they just don't have Chinese people in there.
And this is just a detail, it's not about the people, but about the building so who cares if that's not totally right :)
Your'e correct

Its the real situation that counts, just like ICC in Hong Kong, lots of foreigners in the renders, mainly occupied by Chinese anyways, which makes sense. Renders give a good indication about how the place will look like when built.

Another odd thing about that render: Look at the level they seem to be at. Now look at the Oriental Pearl! It looks 1600M tall! Does the perspective seem correct?

Nothing wrong with the render since Shanghai tower is a lot closer.

Yes, but in real life does it tower over those other buildings like that? I thought the CBD had grown so tall that the Pearl blends in with others.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/2668192024_477a5b764d_b.jpg

Pearl tower still dominates the Pudong's skyline from the bund anyway.
But from some other angles, like this one, it's a whole different story.
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Del.

Another odd thing about that render: Look at the level they seem to be at. Now look at the Oriental Pearl! It looks 1600M tall! Does the perspective seem correct?

Forget about the background, its as dodgy as the people in the renders. When was the oriental pearl tower to the 'RIGHT' of bank of china building? Between Shanghai tower and Oriental pearl, there should be Jin Mao and IFC and then the TV tower and then the huangpu river, not the other buildings that below to the other side of century park. Am i right?

The main thing about that render is the interior, the pearl tower and bank of china buildings are there merely to remind us that this building is in Shanghai, ie, they are iconic. Thats all

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It growing fast......thanks for pic...

Odd. No Chinese people in this render!

chinese people are self-loathing

In_the_harbor can you please post your pics you took from the construction site!!?

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They are lucky this area is not under the earthquake like that part of Japan.Anyway I know these building are earthquake-proof so no problem at all.I hope things dont change in future to bring damage to this city.

Wow, this tower is insanely huge. There's a guy standing at the top in front of the second left column, right next to the "7".

Anyone got any idea what is that horizontal steel beam there for? (to the right of the pic)

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The core is the size of a highrise in its own right!

Hi all.

Great update.

The top down work on the lower levels outside the excavation circle looks to be at least 2 levels deep throughout the site.
Most likely deeper than that but we can't see.
The plans show 5 lower levels almost the size of the entire site.

:cheers:
Ray.

In_the_harbor can you please post your pics you took from the construction site!!?

You actually believe this guy, really?

You actually believe this guy, really?

Well it would be nice to give him the benefit of the doubt but...from what he's posted so far he seems like a fake! 'High profile foreigner' :bash:

When I'm in Shanghai this summer I will go and take some photos of this beast and other constructions around the city! Any requests?

When I'm in Shanghai this summer I will go and take some photos of this beast and other constructions around the city! Any requests?

It would be very nice if you can show us some details of this tower.:)

Well it would be nice to give him the benefit of the doubt but...from what he's posted so far he seems like a fake! 'High profile foreigner' :bash:

When I'm in Shanghai this summer I will go and take some photos of this beast and other constructions around the city! Any requests?

We need more of the Bund tower... shots of that would be nice. For Lujiazui, get some from the East... its rather rare to see a picture of the cluster from the back side, normally all you get is shots from the Bund and other areas of Puxi, or cheesy shots from the Pearl tower.

All eyes on Shanghai!

The core is the size of a highrise in its own right!

Yeah it needs all the room to hold those 40 elevators.

You can never underestimate the number of elevators any building needs to be convenient. Does anybody know how many service elevators it will have?

Maybe, need more then 40 elevators...

Does anyone know what the building under construction in the background to the left of the ST in #7241 is?
I used to work about 100m from there and still have an interest in the old 'hood...

its already level 6?

the scale of this beast is truely mindblowing.

Well it would be nice to give him the benefit of the doubt but...from what he's posted so far he seems like a fake! 'High profile foreigner' :bash:

When I'm in Shanghai this summer I will go and take some photos of this beast and other constructions around the city! Any requests?

Could you check out if there's any progress happening on the Lujiazui Shipyard Redevelopment Phase II site? Much appreciated. :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1011307

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Wow that belt truss is massive!!

Nice shots...:okay:

On every page there's someone who says that the core is so huge it could be a highrise by itself. On this page it's me. :)

On that last picture, that crane in the foreground. Is it for Shanghai Tower, or some other project?

It's a different building going up across the street.

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^^ Wow, they erected a crane for the X3-2 plot already! Hope we can confirm its design soon.

so will they be more cranes in the tower?

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I just realized that I didn't like the location of that tower. It's on the border of the CBD with residential area on it's east. Would have been much better if surrounded by other office towers with better design than residential towers have.

Probably the best skyscraper in the world currently under construction, I can;t wait to see its progress.

I just realized that I didn't like the location of that tower. It's on the border of the CBD with residential area on it's east. Would have been much better if surrounded by other office towers with better design than residential towers have.

I realized the same thing. Perhaps those residential towers can be demolished and be replaced with taller towers of a better design!