Gensler Design 632m Shanghai Super Tower

Published on 18-08-2008 by Skyscrapernews.com
Gensler Architects has won an international competition to build what will be one of the tallest buildings in the world on Shanghai's Pudong Peninsula, the main cluster of skyscrapers in the city.

Called the Shanghai Center, the dimensions of the building according to the planning documents are massive. The steel structure will rise to 632m wrapped around a 565.6 metre tall central concrete core. In total it will have 127 stories, a gross internal area of 558,806 square metres with interior space will be given over to offices, a luxury hotel and retail.

The scheme sits on a mere 30,370 square metres, plot Z32 which has long been expected to feature the tallest building in the entire cluster of buildings. Once finished, the Shanghai Centre will line up with the Jin Mao Building and Shanghai World Finance Centre to create a nascent row of supertall towers.

The design is tiered into 8 levels above ground with floor-plates, approximately the shape of triangles, creating the base of each tier that in front has an outer glass façade wrapped around it rather like a burito that gently tapers in and out creating a subtle zoomorphic appearance.

Recessed deeply from the external façade are the main floors, creating an area in between that containing huge atriums. These will have their space used to turn it into a bioclimatic tower, complete with trees as much as ten metres tall that can help naturally regulate the cooling of the building between its double skin.

The scheme is topped by a viewing platform and observation areas that will have a huge hollow space on the inside of it open to the elements paying homage to the void located near the top of the Shanghai World Finance Centre.

Work by the development consortium founded to build the scheme, the Shanghai Center Ltd , is to start to December 2008 with completion in 2014. Once finished it will be China's tallest building.

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SHANGHAI | Shanghai Center (Approved): 632m, 128 floors. Located at Lujiazui’s Z-32 plot, there are officially two finalists: Foster and Gensler, being the later supposed to be the winner, but still unconfirmed. Height announced to be 580m for both proposals, but according to some rumours the structure height could be taller. Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=391698)

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Shanghai Tower to pierce clouds at 632m

CONSTRUCTION will start on the would-be tallest building on the Chinese mainland in Shanghai on Saturday.

The 121-story Shanghai Tower is scheduled to open partially in 2012 when the top floor is finished. The skyscraper will open fully in 2014, according to Gu Jianping, president of Shanghai Tower Construction Development Co Ltd.

South of Jin Mao Tower in the Lujiazui Finance & Trade Zone in Pudong New Area, Shanghai Tower will soar 632 meters into the sky and have a total construction area of 576,000 square meters, including 380,000 square meters on the ground.

The project has a registered capital of 5.4 billion yuan (US$771.4 million) with Shanghai Chengtou Corporation, Lujiazui Finance & Trade Zone Development Co Ltd and Shanghai Construction Group. The three share holders are all state-owned enterprises.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=382308&type=Metro


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Tallest Building in China Breaks Ground
Design Completes Super-Tall District, Showcases Sustainable Public Space

SHANGHAI–Groundbreaking ceremonies held today mark the start of construction on Shanghai Tower. The 632-meter building designed by Gensler, a leading global architectural design firm, advances sustainable design strategies and gives prominence to public spaces. The Shanghai Tower Construction & Development Co., Ltd., is the project’s developer. Thornton Tomasetti structural engineers, Cosentini Associates mechanical, electrical and plumbing engineers and the Architectural Design and Research Institute of Tongji University as the Local Design Institute will support Gensler. The development is slated for completion in 2014.

Shanghai Tower is located in the Luijiazui Finance and Trade Zone, an area of Shanghai that was farmland eighteen years ago. The district is poised to become China’s first super-tall district, as Shanghai Tower rises to complete a trio of towers including the adjacent Jin Mao Tower and Shanghai World Financial Center (WFC). Together, these three will form a new icon on Shanghai’s skyline. While the design of the Jin Mao Tower pays homage to China’s past, and the WFC’s design signifies China’s recent economic growth, Shanghai Tower’s design is a beacon of China’s future.

“This tower is symbolic of a nation whose future is filled with limitless opportunities,” said Qingwei Kong, President of Shanghai Tower Construction & Development Co., Ltd. “With Shanghai Tower we celebrate not only China’s economic success and increasing connection to the global community, but also our company’s commitment to developing properties that demonstrate the highest, noblest and most exquisite design achievements possible.”

Shanghai Tower will house Class-A office space, retail, a luxury hotel and cultural venues. The uppermost floors will feature the world’s highest non-enclosed observation deck. The tower’s podium building will offer a high-end retail environment with a major event space. Below-grade facilities include retail, connections to the Shanghai Metro and three floors of parking.

“We hope Shanghai Tower inspires new ideas about what sustainable tall buildings can be,” said Art Gensler, FAIA, Chairman of Gensler. “We’ve lined the perimeter of the tower, top to bottom, with public spaces, and we’ve integrated strategic environmental thinking into every move. The tower is a stage that comes to life through the presence of people.”

Tower Composition

Shanghai Tower is organized as nine cylindrical buildings stacked one atop another. The inner layer of the double-skin façade encloses the stacked buildings, while a triangular exterior layer creates the second skin, or building envelope, which gently rotates as it rises. The spaces between the two façade layers create nine atrium sky gardens. Much like plazas and civic squares in traditional cities, the sky atria offer spaces within Shanghai Tower for interaction.. and community with restaurants, cafés, coffee shops and convenience stores, as well as lush landscaping.

With sky gardens lining the tower’s perimeter, Shanghai Tower is literally wrapped in public spaces. Both interior and exterior skins are transparent, establishing a visual connection between the tower’s interiors and Shanghai’s urban fabric. At night the building’s glowing translucent form further highlights interior public spaces. On the ground level, retail and event spaces, in tandem with abundant entrances on the site, further the physical and visual connections between the tower and the city.


Sustainable Strategies

In accordance with the goals of the Shanghai Tower Construction and Development Co., Ltd., the tower will be one of the most sustainable tall buildings in the world. Working closely with Thornton Tomasetti and Cosentini, Gensler adopted a fully integrated design approach, ensuring all design decisions uphold a sustainable intent.

The façade’s taper, texture and asymmetry work in partnership to reduce wind loads on the building by 24 percent, offering considerable savings overall in both building materials and construction costs. In addition, the building’s spiraling parapet collects rainwater, which is used for the tower’s heating and air conditioning systems. Wind turbines located directly beneath the parapet generate on-site power. The landscaped atria improve indoor air quality and create comfortable places for people to linger. Shanghai Tower’s owners aim to register for a high level of building certification from the China Green Building Committee and the U.S. Green Building Council.

About Gensler

Gensler is a global architectural design, planning, and strategic consulting firm with more than 2800 professionals networked across 31 offices on five continents. Consistently ranked by U.S. and international industry surveys as the leading architecture and interior design firm, Gensler leverages its deep resources and diverse expertise to develop design solutions for industries across the globe. Since 1965, Gensler has collaborated with clients to create environments that enhance organizational performance, achieve measurable business goals, and enrich people and communities. For its longstanding commitment to the advancement of sustainable design, Gensler received the Leadership Award from the U.S. Green Building Council in 2005. Gensler began work in China in the 1980s and currently has a staff of more than 122 professionals (80 of whom are Chinese nationals) working in its Shanghai and Beijing offices. To augment local staff, designers from Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, New York, Washington D.C. and San Francisco joined Chinese colleagues to design the project in Shanghai.

About The Architectural Design and Research Institute of Tongji University

The Architectural Design and Research Institute of Tongji University, founded in 1958, is one of the leading design groups in China offering a comprehensive range of disciplines. The ADRI holds design certificates issued by the State Ministry of Construction for China in architecture, municipal engineering, bridge engineering, highway engineering, geotechnical investigation, geology, landscaping, environmental engineering, civil air defense and cultural relic protection. The ADRI also holds an Engineering Consulting Certificate issued by the State Planning Committee. The Design Institute has developed its strength in design, manpower and technology through its 50 years of experience. It employs 1700 professionals including 146 State First Class Registered Architects and 159 State First Class Registered Structural Engineers. It has won nearly 300 prizes for its design work over the past 20 years.

Affiliated with a well known university, the Design Institute has a tradition in architectural education and has successfully collaborated with many well-known design firms from the United States, Canada, Germany, France and Spain.

About Shanghai Tower Construction & Development Co., Ltd.
Formed on December 5, 2007, the Shanghai Tower Construction & Development Co., Ltd., represents an equity partnership between the Shanghai Chengtou Corp., the Luijiazui Finance & Trade Zone Development Co., Ltd., and the Shanghai Construction Group. These three shareholders are jointly funding the development and construction of Shanghai Tower with registered capital of RMB 5.4 billion.

Driven to pursue the “highest, noblest and most exquisite” design and development objectives for Shanghai Tower, the corporation is leveraging more than 10 years of construction management and market expertise to deliver a landmark building worthy of Shanghai’s place on the world stage.

About Thornton Tomasetti
Thornton Tomasetti has a reputation for technical expertise in optimizing building systems to reduce costs, simplify erection procedures and speed up construction. We are internationally recognized for our ability to innovate in order to meet a project’s special requirements, whether financial or functional. Thornton Tomasetti provides engineering services to clients worldwide on buildings of all sizes and complexity. From the tallest buildings and the longest spans, to innovative building systems and materials, the firm is committed to creating the best solutions through its technical ingenuity, pursuit ofexcellence, and responsiveness to client needs.

Founded in 1956, Thornton Tomasetti is a 650-person organization of engineers and architects collaborating from offices across the United States and in Shanghai, Hong Kong, London, Moscow and the Middle East.

About Cosentini

Cosentini Associates is an international consulting engineering firm specializing in mechanical, electrical, sanitary and fire protection engineering, as well as LEED design and facilitation, and specialty information technologies, audiovisual, security and lighting design. The firm has been in continuous practice since 1952 and employs over 400 professionals in offices throughout the world. Working closely with leading architects, Cosentini has participated in the design of many of the world’s most innovative and celebrated buildings of the past several decades. The firm enjoys a global reputation for its ability to find innovative solutions to complex technical problems and to engineer environments that exceed clients’ expectations for energy efficiency, first and operating costs and system reliability. Cosentini was one of the first consulting firms in the country to join the U.S. Green Building Council; the firm’s commitment to sustainable design is evidenced in a portfolio of over 50 LEED-certified projects and over 100 new projects in the process of obtaining LEED certification.

Shanghai Tower
Project Information

Facts

Project Name:
Shanghai Tower

Groundbreaking:
November 29, 2008

Anticipated Completion:
2014

Owner/Developer:
Shanghai Tower Construction and Development Co., Ltd.

Design Architect:
Gensler

Local Design Institute:
The Architectural Design & Research Institute of Tongji University

Structural Engineers:
Thornton Tomasetti

MEP Engineers:
Cosentini Associates

Landscape Architect:
SWA

Description:
Shanghai Tower will be a 632-meter, super-tall tower sited in the heart of Shanghai’s Luijiazui Finance and Trade Zone, adjacent to the Jin Mao Tower and Shanghai World Financial Center. As the newest icon on the Shanghai skyline, Shanghai Tower’s distinctive transparent spiral form will showcase cutting-edge sustainable strategies and public spaces that wrap its perimeter from crown to base.

Project Information:
Site
Location: Luijiazui Finance and Trade Zone, Pudong district, Shanghai, China
Area: 30,370 square meters

Tower
Height: 632 meters
Stories: 128 occupied floors
Area: 380,000 square meters above grade 170,000 square meters below grade
Program: Office, luxury hotel, entertainment, retail and cultural venues

Podium
Height: 38 meters
Stories: 5 stories high
Area: 44,000 square meters
Program: Luxury retail, office, hotel lobbies, bank, restaurant, conference, meeting and banquet functions. Lower levels will house retail, parking, service and MEP functions.

Site and Context
• Shanghai Tower is sited in the Luijiazui Finance and Trade Zone of Pudong, a major financial and commercial hub of China. Eighteen years ago, Luijiazui was predominantly farmland. Today, it is set to become a premiere global financial center.
• Shanghai Tower completes a trio of buildings that form China’s first super-tall district. While the Jin Mao Tower pays homage to China’s past and the Shanghai World Financial Center signifies China’s recent economic success, Shanghai Tower signifies the boundless possibilities of China’s future.
• The tower is situated in a public park with an open civic plaza.

Tower Composition
• As a new Shanghai skyline icon, Shanghai Tower presents a constantly changing façade from all directions.
• The building’s form is a metaphor for the spirit and philosophy of China. Referencing the spiral as a symbol of the cosmos in Chinese culture, the tower’s form symbolizes China’s connection with the world, space and time. Additionally, the tower’s triangular plan relates to the site’s harmonious trio of buildings.
• Shanghai Tower is organized internally as a series of nine cylindrical buildings stacked one atop the other, with nine atria encircling them. The inner layer of the tower’s doubleskin façade encloses the vertically arranged interior buildings, while a triangular exterior layer creates the second skin or building envelope. The spaces between the building’s external façade and its internal façade create the atria.
• With sky gardens lining the building’s perimeter, Shanghai Tower is literally wrapped in public spaces. Both interior and exterior skins are transparent, establishing a visual connection between the tower’s interior spaces and Shanghai’s urban fabric. At night the building’s glowing translucent form further joins city and tower.
• As plazas and civic squares create gathering spaces in traditional cities, the nine atria offer gathering spaces within Shanghai Tower.
• On the ground level, retail and event spaces in tandem with abundant entrances on the site further the physical and visual connections between the tower and city.

Sustainable Highlights
• The twisting, asymmetrical shape of the tower reduces wind loads on the building by 24 percent, reducing the structural load on the building.
• Innovative skin technology is one of many sustainable design and renewable energy systems in the tower. The circular inner glass skin uses 14 percent less glass than a square building of the same area, and minimizes energy consumption.
• The double–skin façade’s vertical atria create thermal buffer zones. It also improves indoor air quality while creating desirable places for people to linger. These public amenity floors also reduce the number of vertical trips each building occupant mustmake.
• The building’s spiraling parapet collects rainwater, which is used for the tower’s heating and air conditioning systems. The spiral shape facilitates vortex shedding and creates an asymmetrical surface to reduce wind loads on the building. Wind turbines located directly beneath the parapet generate on-site power.
• Shanghai Tower’s owners aim to register for a high level of building certification from the China Green Building Committee and the US Green Building Council.

Retail Podium
• The retail podium is a multi-story, luxury retail experience that incorporates an ambitious mix of premium luxury brand fl agships, one-of-a-kind specialty retailers, and high-concept dining.
• The dynamic metropolitan feel of the retail podium is designed to enhance the experiential quality for a mix of visitors, tourists and tower inhabitants. Upscale retail facilities, restaurants, cafés and bars combine to provide the ultimate urban leisure destination in Shanghai.
• Acting as a weather barrier, the curved podium façade is glazed to merge inside with outside, allowing daylight to penetrate the space and to form a connection between the approaching visitor to the Shanghai Tower and the stores and restaurants within it.
• A series of multi-level branded retail stores located on the ground level offer uninterrupted visibility from the exterior to their storefronts. Lower-level retail provides direct access from the street level and the mass transit promenade.

Tower Pinnacle
• The tower’s pinnacle features the world’s highest non-enclosed observation deck.

Global Collaboration
• The core Shanghai Tower design team is located in Gensler’s Shanghai office and includes more than 80 design professionals from Shanghai and abroad.
• To design an innovative tower that met the client’s sustainability and performance goals, Gensler called on talent from its global network, including the firm’s offices in Shanghai, Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, New York, Washington D.C. and San Francisco.

http://www.gensler.com/uploads/documents/pr_081128_Shanghai_Tower_11_24_2008.pdf

100% number 2.

i like No.4

Aren't 1 and 2 the same?

I like #5.

So freaking huge and beautiful!!!! I like the no. 3 and 4.

@flybird, do you know the heights and no. of floors? Any idea about when are they going to start building it? I hope it gets build by Shanghai 2010

This one is also proposed if i'm not wrong:
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Number 4 precisely

I like number 2

So freaking huge and beautiful!!!! I like the no. 3 and 4.

@flybird, do you know the heights and no. of floors? Any idea about when are they going to start building it? I hope it gets build by Shanghai 2010

This one is also proposed if i'm not wrong:
http://static.flickr.com/77/192164654_6ecf5bd16c_o.jpg


Z3-2 is still on planing state. from the pix, it should be 400+ maybe 500+.

No.1.AND 2 should be one design with little difference.

so maybe people favoring chose affect fininal decision.

I like them all, but I would go for 2 or 3

I really like them all, but if I had to pick one I would pic #1.

#2, #4, #5. Though to decide. Build them all.

I like number 2 and 3.

Hard to decide, have to go with either no1/2 (they're the same pretty much) or 3

All projects are nice, i prefer 5th ....

I prefer No.4
It seems it favors most Chinese ethnics here, maybe since it reminds me of bamboo shoot, which has a quite positive image and metaphor.
I don't know if other peers agree with me or not. :)

I like 3.

Wow they are all nice, but i hvae to choose no 2.

Is there a possibility that this development could be taller than SWFC? That would be cool!

Either 3 or 4. I think 3 fits more with SWFC and the Jin Mao

^^ Who knows. All the proposals seem to be at least 100m taller than the SWFC excepting the third render, which doesn't look to be much taller than the Jin Mao.

Is there a possibility that this development could be taller than SWFC? That would be cool!
Yup, all the proposals in the first post suggest the tower is to have around 120 floors or so.

Ummm... I'm not a fan of any of these (except maybe the 3d but only partly) so I'll vote for... the tallest one.

#3

maybe #5, its an interesting shape but it looks like it is still under construction

either 2 or 4...5 looks like a streched version of the "Flower of Iran(?) Hotel"

Without a doubt Nº 2

why choose?
built all in Shanghai :)

I like 1-4. 5 looks like some type of mega computer. :whacko:

Only thing I suggest is wrapping the base around the tower in #1

I like 4 the best.

i like all of them

but if i had to choose then number 2

3 and 5 are cool proposals

My personal favorite is #1.

I say build them all as well, in shanghai, but not all of them next to each other like they did with SWFC and Jin Mao (and one of these).

But i think 5 is the best. The top reminds me of Renzo Piano's cultural center in New Caledonia.

By the way, do you know the architects for these projects??

I prefer No.4
It seems it favors most Chinese ethnics here, maybe since it reminds me of bamboo shoot, which has a quite positive image and metaphor.
I don't know if other peers agree with me or not. :)My words :)

no 4 for me no doubt at all, 1 and 2 look too big, 3 is a little bland, and 5's just a bit all over the place. 4 is beautiful

All projects are outstanding. I prefer no. 1 but I hope that one day all of them will be build.

I like the 1st. It is rather elegant and very attractive.

all of them! but would go for # 2 or # 4 . Hard to decide

#4 imo. :|

konnichiwa, watasha wa anayda desu...chavez our president! you know VENEZUELA, he loves china!!

Yup, all the proposals in the first post suggest the tower is to have around 120 floors or so.

That would be very good for Shanghai, there are still no 600m+ Buildings for China yet! Where are they!?! lol! :)

#1 & #2 :yes:

Make this a poll you fools!

:grouphug:

konnichiwa, watasha wa anayda desu...chavez our president! you know VENEZUELA, he loves china!!
Hello to you too, Good to know that mr. Chávez loves China. But I don't think that there are alot of people in China who actually speak Japanese.

As for the proposals:
4 and 5 for me, although 2 is also good. (I can't choose)

nr 4.

konnichiwa, watasha wa anayda desu...chavez our president! you know VENEZUELA, he loves china!!
But you are speaking Japanese. :)
Thanks anyway.

Lovely proposals! :eek:

Personal favorite is #2 and #5, lets hope they choose some of them! :okay:

They all are great. I hope for the "flower" or the "bamboo crown" though. :)

1 and 2 seems pretty similar and I think they are my faves.. followed by no. 5

Number 3 or 5. Hard to decide. IMO both #1 & #2 (apart from beeing exactly the same) look like updated Turning Torso.

#3! :master:

I like #1 and #2

Loving the 3rd one when will it be built

I like no 5.

It´s really nice

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/z3-2~_6W2x1UyIN3r2.jpg

29 Proposals!!

10, 14, and 15 are my favorites!

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/z3-2~_6W2x1UyIN3r2.jpg

29 Proposals!!
Holy cow! Are you sure the first one is a proposal? It looks like you accidentally shot a decoration on the desk. :D
Nonetheless, interesting. :)

Holy cow! Are you sure the first one is a proposal? It looks like you accidentally shot a decoration on the desk. :D
Nonetheless, interesting. :)

I hope it's only a joke...
http://imagenes.globovision.com/fotos/23427_1.jpg

Most of these proposals just look ugly to me. :sleepy: They look more like toys rather than building models. It could be that the pictures are too small though. Anyway, no matter which one they choose, just don't name it as "Shanghai Centre". We have already got a "Shanghai Centre", the most princely and majestic skyscaper of Shanghai.

2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still prefer the original one at the start of this thread. It was the most unique and elegant without looking too sci-fi

This is my ranking.

1. #4
2. #3
3. #5 (with a few changes)
4a. #1
4b. #2

Definitely #4 mate!

9, 19 and 24 are FAB !

Out of the renders in the first post, #3 or #5.

From all the 29 proposals shown on page 3, #20 and #21 look interesting too. Anyone has better images/renders of them?

The 1st and 2nd is the same...

The first one is the best! they should build that one!:cheers:

I am very glad from new renderings, the super tall z3-2 could reach 600m+

think about what 3 super tall can make!!

More detailed proposals by international firms.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159442150.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441922.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441860.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441805.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441724.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441623.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441515.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441421.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438959.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438863.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438787.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438744.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438661.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438511.jpg

Wow, some of those are bloody massive! Any chance one of them could beat the burj?

For the international design: #1 and #4 photo

more from moyan800


http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159565988_S46ZS0pw4iII.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159565850_xDPvlCJNcZSu.jpg


http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159565745_6LviugAYYqOi.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159566125_Qx9RB7gtXRzg.jpg


http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159566268_AfEK3nGsy8j0.jpg


http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/204469_1159566365_g5Te8NlheN0h.jpg

The first 4 are the best IMO.

That last rocket-like proposal is rediculously tall, 650 to 700m?

so many sexy buildings, hard to vote!

i vote for the 8°

I like 2, 18 and 13. Number one looks like a swollen penis to me. Wonderful city Shangay.

Number 2 or 4 They a both realy beautiful. Number 4 reminds me of a rising plant. Very positive picture.

a PS pic for Z3-2. from railboy of ss.cn

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/Lord%20of%20the%20Rings%20ps_JHDIgxexKvC8.jpg

All proposal are stunning and unique to a certain degree. Whats most important is though what proposal stands out yet fits in with the surrounding skyline. Also i t must complement both Jin mao and SWFC and not completely Overwhelm it too much if it is taller than both

Here are my views on all porposals (see page 1)

1 - too big, does not blend well, does not complement both supertalls. (miranda was right by saying it looks like a swollen penis)
2 - same as one
3- cylindrical nice and diff geometry compared with pyramidal jinmao and slanting SWFC
4- beautiful a chinese skyscarper indeed have to see what it looks like beside SWFC 1st though
5- nah! cut off the upper 2/3rds will look good though no longer supertall
6- distorted perspective cannot comment
7- not shanghai
8- looks like gigantic federation tower (u/c in moscow)
9- maybe if it were narrower than SWFC
10- nah, looks two buildings that were stacked on each other to beat SWFC's height
11-13 nah
14- maybe
15- good height in proporation to other 2 supertalls

If there were a supertall built there it should be about 100 m taller than SWFC to match the height poroportion of SWFC and jinmao. the three can allude to a stairway to heaven

IMAO i would rather see any proposal built 750-1000m away from the two supertalls and pearl tower too it would give more balance to the skyline

Those new proposals are simply stunning. I like the cylinder a bit more than the rest but i think it might need to be higher.

i like NR. 1 and 2

No.13 is the best to me guys.

BTW lots of renders wow :D

3 or 15. very normal and nice designs. all other looks a bit kiddish....

I really would like to know how you all do these amazing renderings and concept drawings. Is there a certain program like photoshop that you use? I'd really like to learn how to do it.

4 looks really cool. My favourite

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441805_Cx4huDPNw7Q4.jpg

In this order of preference:
7. I would like to see better renderings ... original design
13. very nice reminicent of Bank of China in some respects
5. so original, love the cylindrical design and the facade treatment


http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/forst-1_XkrieygoaAav.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441805_Cx4huDPNw7Q4.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1156323827_ozBjpPqxHlEa.jpg

I love all of 'em but I like the 8th

It is really so hard to choose, they are all so unique!

4, 8, 11, 15.

Can't make any decision.

they're all so gorgeous! can't decide!... brain shutting down...*flops over on desk and drools*

btw, when is the final decision about ?

2, 3, 6...the rest have two much 'yang' in it.

Skyscraper itself is a yang object, so it's better not to build a pointy tower. Curved or neutral shape (ie: boxes) are more preferred.

some of them looks like 700m+

9,11,15
I finally understand why there are still so many empty slots in liuziazui area, they are reserved for the ulimate VIP scrapers!!!!!

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441805_Cx4huDPNw7Q4.jpg

I like that one
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441515_gSSWGD0d8ABW.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441515_gSSWGD0d8ABW.jpg

i like 8 9 and 10. they are fantastic, 10 is odd thats why i chose it, its so radical its unbelievable...

number 5

are they any closer to making a decision on the plot?? do we know which of these is most likely to be built?

More detailed proposals by international firms.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441922.jpg



This picture looks absolutely beautiful. :cheers:

15 , 13 , 10 , 9 , 4 , not in order .

RTKL's proposal for Z3-2 plot from z0rg.

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/8_eIqibzTX3Xb4.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/7_RkS0RXCtNOYg.jpg

Pudong is slowly but surely filling up

just need to work on the streetscape a little and make it more walkable

15 and 2

next to the new supertall is another free plot...hopefully we'll there also an tall tower :)

next to the new supertall is another free plot...hopefully we'll there also an tall tower :)

Hmmmm I think you're wrong. Click here:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/LujiazuiPudongprojectmapcopy.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6331/mapdu1.jpg)


There aren't more free plots in Lujiazui in addition to the Z3-2, at least none big enough for a supertall. Only the plot reserved for Skyline Mansion phase II could offer us a good surprise though. They're supposed to build there 2x40f~ towers, but who knows. I wish they built there a 70f+ residential :banana:

^^ notice it said,
Z3-2 project
550-700m
100-160 floors !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm I think you're wrong. Click here:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/LujiazuiPudongprojectmapcopy.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6331/mapdu1.jpg)


There aren't more free plots in Lujiazui in addition to the Z3-2, at least none big enough for a supertall. Only the plot reserved for Skyline Mansion phase II could offer us a good surprise though. They're supposed to build there 2x40f~ towers, but who knows. I wish they built there a 70f+ residential :banana:

the plots X3-1,X3-2 and X3-3 looks like one plot in the pic above, but now it's clear that we won't see a new supertall there :)

^^ Oh, hehehe, ok. I hope they'll remove the Green Central Park to build 4 or 5 supertalls there :banana:

^^ Keep dreaming...

When are they going to choose the winner?

smaller plot of land doesnt mean no supertall, the land of jin mao and swfc r small as well, bt they r tall buildings

Yes but Pudong is entirely on mud. It'll make construction a lot more difficult.

Those are all very beautiful towers. My favorites ar numbers 4 and 9. Those two look amazing. Are they going to build so high tower(s)? That first tower (n:o 1) seems to be much higher than the Financial tower, which is about 500 meters, if i remember correctly.

Number 11 isn't getting much hype but it's my favorite. I don't really like twisting towers, and none of the others seem all that imposing.

Anyone know who the architect is?

any news about the competition?

3, 6, 9, and 12, #9 looks like the nicest of them all to me.

Definately 3 or 4, those two are great.

One of these two:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159438787.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441421.jpg

Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 Nº2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

3 and 4 are my favourites !
a 400+, almost 500+ and a 600+ all together :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
thats gonna be an amazing view :master:

#8 Looks hella great.

10, 13, and 14 are terrible. All the others are pretty cool, and I could see any of them being chosen.

Oddly enough I like 1 and 15 the best. Would like to see a better rendering of 15 though.

3 and 4 are my favourites !
a 400+, almost 500+ and a 600+ all together :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
thats gonna be an amazing view :master:

now we only miss a 300m+ tower :lol:....imagine how damned small it wouldl look ;)

outstanding, reminds me of a razorshell

9. http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441421_x8x4JMHTe2cC.jpg

13. very classy, doesnt push the envelope so much but then, it doesnt need to being so massive. If ever there was an icon this would be it:
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441805_Cx4huDPNw7Q4.jpg

9 or 8

I like No.4 and No.11, they complement well with SWFC.

i wonder what the balls inside the tower are? (if anything) Plus what a great place for a helicopter pad.
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/278972_1159441421_x8x4JMHTe2cC.jpg

so hard to choose, but i would have to say that my favorites are 3 and 8.

Are they really going to build one of these buildings in Pudong?

#2 #5 #9

so hard to choose, but i would have to say that my favorites are 3 and 8.

Are they really going to build one of these buildings in Pudong?

yes, probably

none of the pics on the first page work.. =[

I Look Like No_: 5 so amazing :master: and SOM's so beautiful
I want choose No_5 for Vote!!

Have a designed......?? got new?? i want look more a picture of design!! :ohno:

there are no more designs in the competition as far as i know

i can not see anyting
all in my eyes are red crosses:ohno:

^^ Someone needs to update the links. Skyscrapers.cn stopped hosting img on their own site.

Any info about the final design??

I really hope this project is not dead?!?! I havn't heard a pin drop of news for quite some time.

I like the second one from the bottom (the tallest one) in the photos that z0rg posted. That one is brilliant, as well as the other towers.

Maybe they should build them all... :cheers:

If anything does happen I'd say the best design to go for would be something totally different to both the WFC(classic smooth block tower with top feature) and Jin Mao(ethnic influence) otherwise one tower is going to end up looking like the odd one out.

i rely rely rely hop it will be a realety ! end the som disign will win the computition !

none of the pics worked for me............damn, i really want to see the renders.

Still always proposed status?

yes, unfortunately

none of the pics worked for me............damn, i really want to see the renders.

Me too. Flybird (or maybe Admin?) needs to update the OP. I believe the link to those pics got deleted. The design of those renders are actually pretty tall and awesome look.

i like very much shangai

Agree, nice city

I can`t see the pictures! :down:

I can`t see the pictures! :down:

PLEASE dont :down: !! maybe will open new a picture on 2010, Please waiting...!! maybe zOrg or ZZ-II will know more designs soon!! :)

some new info by laza

188f
820m
1,180 000m2
will be finished in 2013
cost 340billion rmb

http://wap.sohu.com/images3/wblog/2007/05/18/10/38/1179455930036_0.jpg

http://wap.sohu.com/images3/wblog/2007/05/18/10/23/1179455030032_0.jpg

pix taken by mobile...pity
hope laza can post some render soon

上海新金融中心八百米超高層設計圖,建築總高度820米,188層,垂直電梯1128部.總建築面積118萬平方米.全球第一高八百米超高層上海金融中心設計圖,建築總高度820米,主體造價340億人民幣,2013年竣工,LAZA首發.2007.
由於用移動電話隱秘拍攝. 其中照片黑色部分為，型鋼加混凝土骨架部分，照片右上角的混凝土柱採用 （4米 X 7米） 巨型混凝土柱混合全鋼骨架的 強度為C100 C80 C60 .其他在建築高度600米以上為純鋼結構設計的上海新金融中心八百米超高層設計圖,建築總高度820米,188層,垂直電梯1128部.總建築面積118萬平方米.LAZA.2007 首發.

That got study writen all over it... Not even close to something definite.

Lol the costs are 45 billion $. Insane! As is 820m :D

wow, 820m....that's an enemy for Burj Dubai :D

some new info by laza

188f
820m
1,180 000m2
will be finished in 2013
cost 340billion rmb

http://wap.sohu.com/images3/wblog/2007/05/18/10/38/1179455930036_0.jpg

wow....
really?? I dont believe it??
nice draw!! I like 820m but if i look like 888m!! :D

I thought shanghai was limited to 500m?

I thought shanghai was limited to 500m?

What?
Why?
Source?

some new info by laza

188f
820m
1,180 000m2
will be finished in 2013
cost 340billion rmb

http://wap.sohu.com/images3/wblog/2007/05/18/10/38/1179455930036_0.jpg




It has been proven a hoax at skyscraper.cn by some shanghai forumers..

shanghai ground is sinking rapidly every year.i doubt 800M building will be built.

All of the renders represent very impressive towers. I can't pick a favorite.

shanghai ground is sinking rapidly every year.i doubt 800M building will be built.

agree, 820m is damn tall, even for shanghai

820 metres was height of the vision tokyo tower proposed many years ago am I right? Nonetheless, if such a height were annonced a monolithic cladding effect like the SWFC would be pleasant, but I doubt that's going to happen.

shanghai ground is sinking rapidly every year.i doubt 800M building will be built.
You can build as tall as you want as long as you dig enough underground levels to keep the mass balance unchanged.

Future Shanghai Center 500m+ will fit exactly between Jin Mao and SWFC on this pic:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/874031505_ed21cdcd62_o.jpg

oh so there really will be a Shanghai Center? are there any renders?

i don't think 820m is too much for shanghai. it could be good dominant on the skyline.

^^ 500m is not taller than burj dubai.

^^ 500m is not taller than burj dubai.
i was talking about 820. anyway, i have edited my post - didn't notice it was a hoax.

oh so there really will be a Shanghai Center? are there any renders?

Where have you been? Have you tried looking on the first page of this thread?
:ohno:

Future Shanghai Center 500++ or 820m

I dont like Spire(pen) height !! If I look like Roof height !! :)

Where have you been? Have you tried looking on the first page of this thread?
:ohno:

You're very funny.. I looked at the 1st page and only saw red x's xD

550m is OK
if it surpass JINMAO and SWFC too much
the skyline will not be symphonized:ohno:

Future Shanghai Center 500m+ will fit exactly between Jin Mao and SWFC on this pic:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/874031505_ed21cdcd62_o.jpg

:omg: What a skyline!!! But the sinking of the ground is indeed a big problem!!!

You're very funny.. I looked at the 1st page and only saw red x's xD

Try this link, show you all of the designs being proposed. Most of them look to be in the 600-650m region.

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=5306

^^ wow. thanks for the link!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/278972_1159441421.jpg

:eek2: :applause: :righton:

Sweet helicopter pad. And sinking soil doesnt matter because it would be attached to bedrock and bedrock doesnt sink.

Wow! Stunning!

Sweet helicopter pad. And sinking soil doesnt matter because it would be attached to bedrock and bedrock doesnt sink.
Doesn't aquifer depletion make bedrock sink as well?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence

honestly i dont care witch bulding they put on that plot of land...i will look amazing...and have the Jin and the SWFC to complament it....an everchange and futuristic skyline that has Shanghai on the top tier of the worlds best skylines

I like the SOM project.

me too, was my favourite design until now

Looks interesting.

I like the SOM project.


Totally agree.

any photo of the site??

Putting it right there as it shows in the render between Tapei 101 and the Financial Center would be perfect, especially if it is to be the tallest of the three.

Putting it right there as it shows in the render between Tapei 101 and the Financial Center would be perfect, especially if it is to be the tallest of the three.

Isn't Taipei 101... located in Taipei, Taiwan? :nuts:

So there are three big ones there instead of two

I like the SOM project.

Which one is the SOM design?

man this is awesome! :okay:

Sweet helicopter pad. And sinking soil doesnt matter because it would be attached to bedrock and bedrock doesnt sink.

Saw a program on the building of the SWFC and the Jin Mao tower a while back. They arent anchored to bed rock. They drove thousands of long steel rods deep into the soil to stabilize the foundation. Bed rock is something like 800 ft down. Thats a pretty deep basement...

any photo of the site??

yep.
this one is from march 07, only an empty site :)

http://i10.tinypic.com/6bx5ee0.jpg

maybe If it was today there might be some construction there:cheers:

Which one is the SOM design?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/som-2_3s7qANUL7Z3N.jpg

taller than the SWFC??

Yes , by far ^^

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=5306

600m range...

will it start before the other one is finished?

Which of those design is the tallest one and what is the height?

havent been hearing it for ages..

we dont know which is the tallest, ayway, i personally care more about the design than height

only small cities and counties care about the height
then
great cities care about its whole skyline

Anything new going on with this big guy? Maybe well start to hear some news after the SWFC is completed?

yeah thats what i was hoping, coz i am 100% sure they designed to have three 'big guys' in Lujiazui.

the shortest one is Jinmao, the taller one is SWFC and there is a tallest which will be shanghai center.

these three buildings are surrounded by 100s of 200m offices, looks pretty cool :)

please, please construct this building as soon as possible. that's too gorges.

we need to know the winning design.

yeah...i hope it would be built before 2010 expo..

new pic:

http://newsimg.focus.cn/zjmnewsimg/newsimg35/103608.jpg

http://newsimg.focus.cn/zjmnewsimg/newsimg35/103606.jpg

Wrong thread... :)

ahhh omg lol...my bad
so confusing

nice pics though

is this the tallest building in china also is there any other tall buildings planned?

Wow. This tower makes both the Jin Mao and SWFC look tiny.

When are they deciding the final design? Anybody knows?

when can we aspekt this projekt to start ?

not bad,

will it start before the other one is finished?

don't think so

yeah...i hope it would be built before 2010 expo..

i don't think they'll start still this year, maybe next or 2009. and a 500m + tower needs more than 3 years. so i think it is impossible to build it until 2010

how long did it take swfc to finish? around 2 yrs~?

if then plan it now, and u/c on october and work ultra fast ( lol china can do that) and finish before expo.

or it would be built after expo since it would be a serious damage of the skyline

much longer than 2 years. on August 05 it was ~20-30m tall. so overground, and that was 2 years ago. don't forget the foundations!

lol who knows, i think the foundation took a long time too on swfc

8 years :D

lol, world record?

7 years on hold.. yes, world record :D

Well it was on hold. But counting actual construction it took a little over 3 years.

i rely hope for the som disign ! that is the best disign ! i rely hop it is going to have an ob deck this one ass well !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/som_1_q1vcD6pMwz0W.jpg

^^ That wouldnt be bad neither. I like how Jin Mao looks like dogs turd beside it:D

look how small the pearl looks in that pic.

lol who knows, i think the foundation took a long time too on swfc

is lol your name? if not could you explain what it means i`m sure other people are wondering too.

^^ really? you dont know? it means laughing out loud.
(or laugh out loud)

^^ really? you dont know? it means laughing out loud.
(or laugh out loud)

pmp thanks

no prob.

Ha, that background is an old picture of Kowloon.

i rely hope for the som disign ! that is the best disign ! i rely hop it is going to have an ob deck this one ass well !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/som_1_q1vcD6pMwz0W.jpg

Is it me, or does this tower look exactly like the Russia Tower AND SOM's Transbay Tower proposal in San Francisco?

i thought it looked like they had a child.

Is it me, or does this tower look exactly like the Russia Tower AND SOM's Transbay Tower proposal in San Francisco?

I think it's just you as Russia Tower has a completely different floor plan, and as for the Transbay Tower proposal? It looks nothing like it.


This design is definitely by far my favourite. It would be such a waste of a fantastic design if this one is not built.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/1156323335_knuvE4hqTYVr.jpg

Ha, that background is an old picture of Kowloon.

no its not, :nuts: :bash:

its an odd pic of shanghai

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/1156323335_knuvE4hqTYVr.jpg

^ Woah! Fantastic!!!

^^ Jin Mao and SWFC is very small. hehe

The angle is VERY favorable :D

I think it's just you as Russia Tower has a completely different floor plan, and as for the Transbay Tower proposal? It looks nothing like it.


This design is definitely by far my favourite. It would be such a waste of a fantastic design if this one is not built.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/1156323335_knuvE4hqTYVr.jpg

That SOM design is a great one but I like that tower picture above better because it really symbolizes a Chinese or Oriental architecture (like a dragon or a phoenix bird rising to the top). They should change the color to red to symbolize China itself.

this one is my 2nd favourite...after SOM :)

WOW taller than the SWFC!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/yowhsing/1156323335_knuvE4hqTYVr.jpg

I like how this one looks with Jin Mao and SC much more than the SOM design.

i like that design also but i think it gets to fat in the middle.

woow i love that design, it is really cool!!!!:D:D