Addis Ababa (ኣዲስ ኣበባ) | Ethiopia | City Gallery [Archive] - Page 3

Ezana

August 17th, 2008, 07:19 AM

Views of Bole Rd and Medhane Alem Church

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/2714804569_cabdf889a4_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2735637417_149a835cd9_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2735637165_8d9d59fdd7_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2735636683_b9d7018f32_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2735628045_f0f79a8459_o.jpg

Dembel Mall on Bole Road

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2736466664_35b6baba88_o.jpg

Not sure what roads these are

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2735632039_4af62aa3ec_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2736473190_97ec4a50b1_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2754056426_efedaf451b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2753224695_8835b4ec70_b.jpg

View of Meskel Square

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2735628277_00e778b3d9_o.jpg

Billboards along a road

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2754534810_8a5dea66ac_b.jpg

Apartment building

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2754525938_9a4c8bb15c_b.jpg

Hotel De Leopol (http://www.hoteldeleopolint.com/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/2760337034_544078a711_o.jpg

Tarrex

August 17th, 2008, 03:19 PM

Are they still building Dembel?

SAHARA-1

August 17th, 2008, 05:40 PM

what I have realized about Addis Ababa is that in addition to its other projects under construction, at this point in time and in the immediate future, it will have two stand-out highrises or towers. They are quite a bit apart from each other also; one is on the far left and one far right in a panorama view.

I dont know the names of the buildings but I have a good picture of them.
I will post in the the next post.....

SAHARA-1

August 17th, 2008, 05:47 PM

Here (one is completed on the far left, one is still underconstruction on the far right):

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2549/27634062826b511a6d5foqj4.jpg

yosef

August 17th, 2008, 05:57 PM

^those are called Nani building and Awash bank is the underconstruction one

SAHARA-1

August 18th, 2008, 01:51 AM

^those are called Nani building and Awash bank is the underconstruction one
oh okay, thanks.

yosef

August 18th, 2008, 02:34 AM

some pictures

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9436/2509719438789508fa23bju4.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8571/2078902864b2da0ebaffbgr5.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8854/20787011783badde1330bzh8.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6596/2078701198449a5279d0bmn4.jpg

Carver02

August 18th, 2008, 10:23 AM

Here (one is completed on the far left, one is still underconstruction on the far right):

And later, there will be another one, the EEPCo building even farther to the right.

Are they still building Dembel?I think so. When I was last there they were building directly adjacent to Dembel; I think the old and new construction will be joined together somehow.

skipperBill

August 19th, 2008, 07:29 PM

cool pictures yosef. didnt know we had so many Ethiopian posters (assuming you are Ethiopian).
welcome :)

you are both right Carver and Sahara.

Ezana

August 19th, 2008, 11:48 PM

Dembel is in trouble (http://addisfortune.com/New%20Threat%20to%20Dembel%20as%20Loan%20Deal%20is%20Stopped.htm), actually, as their loan deal fell through.

Urban Legend

August 20th, 2008, 12:01 AM

yosef

August 20th, 2008, 12:55 AM

@ skipperBill, yes I am Ethiopian. thanks for the welcome

yosef

August 20th, 2008, 12:58 AM

some more pictures

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7792/hpim1657bj9.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9920/hpim1681rq1.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9379/hpim1682yb6.jpg

Tarrex

August 20th, 2008, 10:41 PM

very nice city.
i see some russian architecture style and a lot of russian car (cabs).
why is that? what is the conection between Ethiopia and Russia? maby something in the past?

From 1974 - 1991 Ethiopia was ruled by ''Mengistu'' a brutal dictator funded by the Soviet union. Mengistu introduced communism and litterally destroyed the country. :bash:

Still Ethiopia contunies to suffer under puppet regimes, but this time the west.:bash:

yosef

August 21st, 2008, 04:31 AM

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2816/img0301xv3.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9631/img0214ix6.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3818/img0302lo2.jpg

Carver02

August 21st, 2008, 05:35 AM

Thanks, Yosef. Are these pics on Kera Rd? Between Bole Rd and Debre Zeyit Rd?

Ezana

August 21st, 2008, 09:34 AM

Ghion Hotel

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2768221458_3c5fcf9e67_o.jpg

Nani Building

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2768223874_7a1da5300b_o.jpg

Not sure

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/2764632119_fb16b480fe_o.jpg

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:03 PM

And later, there will be another one, the EEPCo building even farther to the right.

you are correct.

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:04 PM

oh okay, thanks.
you are welcome. Here is another picture that shows the same thing.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6140/dsc00470rx2.jpg

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:14 PM

very nice city.
i see some russian architecture style and a lot of russian car (cabs).
why is that? what is the conection between Ethiopia and Russia? maby something in the past?

the slums in the middle of the city is the onley thing i didn't liked. all the rest is great.
very develop city.
yes you are right. Ethiopia and Russia were both communism in 1980's and they are both Orthodox Christianity. They have had relationship since 1800's 19th century between the Czars and Emperors of Ethiopia.

you are correct slums are terrible. Even in the picture I post above this one you can see slums. There is hard time to demolish slums because of people live in slums sue in court for compensation from government or investors.

thank you for interest. :) you are Israeli?

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:20 PM

Thanks, Yosef. Are these pics on Kera Rd? Between Bole Rd and Debre Zeyit Rd?
you are correct. If you look in the last picture you can see a brown building which is the new Swiss Cafe location. The road between is not far from ring road.

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:26 PM

good pictures Ezana.
more pictures:

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/128/1001917rr0.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4048/img03151vi9au9.jpg

yosef

August 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4167/img0443yr5.jpg

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2112/img0131oj0.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3935/dsc01707ec8.jpg

African Lion

August 26th, 2008, 03:10 AM

yes you are right. Ethiopia and Russia were both communism in 1980's and they are both Orthodox Christianity. They have had relationship since 1800's 19th century between the Czars and Emperors of Ethiopia.

you are correct slums are terrible. Even in the picture I post above this one you can see slums. There is hard time to demolish slums because of people live in slums sue in court for compensation from government or investors.

thank you for interest. :) you are Israeli?

Of all the occasions Ive seen the government demolish structures and kick people out I don't know of any where people were compensated for anything. You got to remember that there is little rule of law in the country and their is not much of a dividing line between gov/business/courts.

yosef

August 26th, 2008, 03:41 AM

Of all the occasions Ive seen the government demolish structures and kick people out I don't know of any where people were compensated for anything. You got to remember that there is little rule of law in the country and their is not much of a dividing line between gov/business/courts.
yes but there are still slums around....which tells you that it is difficult to get rid of them because the government fears that the residents will complain, which is exactly my point.

skipperBill

August 26th, 2008, 04:24 AM

wow Im enjoying all your pics yosef. nice finds :cheers:

some from me:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3128/addiisababa014vn4zm8.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2521/outsidetcilprojectofficly3.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5990/addisababaairportts1.jpg

yosef

August 26th, 2008, 04:43 AM

^^ thanks. one more:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5070/img6304bc2oz8.jpg

yetale

August 28th, 2008, 02:58 AM

[QUOTE=yosef;24476154]^^ thanks. one more:

Where did you take this one from? It is taken from such a great vantage point, I have never seen a picture like it before. It is a little fuzzy though.

yetale

August 28th, 2008, 03:25 AM

http://i37.************/2hqgkea.jpg
http://i36.************/2q88000.jpg
http://i37.************/bgd43t.jpg

SAHARA-1

August 28th, 2008, 08:00 PM

yetale, go to www.imageshack.com, www.photobucket.com, or www.************ and put the file from your computer on the blank line. That is how you can post a picture on here.

good pictures yosef :)

Ezana

August 29th, 2008, 02:37 AM

^^ thanks. one more:

Where did you take this one from? It is taken from such a great vantage point, I have never seen a picture like it before. It is a little fuzzy though.

I'm pretty certain the fuzziness is from pollution (smog).

nairoberry

August 29th, 2008, 02:52 AM

I love this thread. it always refreshes me, i dont know y. that last pic of the nani tower i can c a good cluster of buildings taking shape, i wud really love to see ethiopia get a city like nairobi or better.

YOSEF, are u in any way connected to kenya? your signature suggests u either lived or born in Kenya.

nway great thread guyz keep the pics coming

yetale

August 29th, 2008, 03:09 AM

http://i37.************/3151wk1.jpg

yetale

August 29th, 2008, 05:36 AM

Thanks, Yosef. Are these pics on Kera Rd? Between Bole Rd and Debre Zeyit Rd?

I think the Name of the road is Ethio-China Friendship Ave. It feeds to the gotera intersection popularly known as "confusion square" where a new "spageti junction" is under construction.

yosef

August 29th, 2008, 07:43 AM

yosef

August 29th, 2008, 03:49 PM

**An All New Area of Town

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6519/256024348521bdf1cc3ebwk7.jpg

wow. cool. :cheers:

yosef

August 29th, 2008, 03:49 PM

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7290/hpim1648ha5.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1636/hpim1653da4.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5324/hpim1658ef2.jpg

nairoberry

August 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM

who is "yetale"?

I guess you just started posting here recently because I havent seen many of your posts until now, although your join date is a month before mine. Anyway, nice pictures man.

@nairoberry, I dont have a signature. maybe you were talking to yetale...

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7290/hpim1648ha5.jpg

im digging this pic the big blue glass gives the building a very mordern look

@ yosef sorry i was reffering to yetale

SAHARA-1

August 30th, 2008, 08:47 PM

this billboard seems to advertise what they are building next to Dembel...
maybe it is also going to be some kind of mall but I am not sure

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9219/img0879vo2.jpg

this is the brown swiss cafe building from the other picture

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1113/img0836ye5.jpg

I found these pictures from the internet,
I personally havent been to Addis in a long time and I dont have any of my own pictures. :)

Kenguy

August 31st, 2008, 11:39 AM

Does the swiss cafe serve local food? Nothing beats the Ethiopian Anjeera and Doro wot (hope I got the spelling right). Im loving the pics.

Carver02

September 1st, 2008, 01:05 AM

Of all the occasions Ive seen the government demolish structures and kick people out I don't know of any where people were compensated for anything. You got to remember that there is little rule of law in the country and their is not much of a dividing line between gov/business/courts.
I have spoken with people who were promised, and received, employment at the new establishment as (partial) compensation for relocating.

yetale

September 1st, 2008, 04:52 AM

I have spoken with people who were promised, and received, employment at the new establishment as (partial) compensation for relocating.

The sad thing is that no one gets the market value of a property that has been demolished to make way for construction of other structures. People are paid peanuts for a land that is worth alot more or a house that took much more to build.

yosef

September 1st, 2008, 10:43 PM

^so "yetale", are you saying people are compensated (paid) for their property?
...because AfricaLion was saying they are not compensated at all (whatever the amount- big or small).

yosef

September 1st, 2008, 10:45 PM

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7091/p4230075bd0.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7175/p4260128tj7.jpg

yosef

September 1st, 2008, 10:50 PM

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9297/p4200020yl2.jpg

somebody's new house being built :uh:
...maybe a rich diaspora

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9818/img0839ym9.jpg

yosef

September 1st, 2008, 10:57 PM

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3565/etiopien2006006ju4.jpg

SAHARA-1

September 2nd, 2008, 02:57 AM

:cheers: great pictures, all of them.

African Lion

September 2nd, 2008, 04:32 AM

Basmam! That house to too nice. Its always good to see Addis ababan housing because its so much more creative and pleasing then the cookie cutter suburbs of the US.

SAHARA-1

September 2nd, 2008, 05:15 AM

^you should see some of the suburbs in Nairobi or Abuja (here is one: click (http://www.fleck-hanley.com/11949b70.jpg)).
They have incredible houses like this one.

African houses tend to be more interesting on the whole. I agree. :okay:

arzaranh

September 2nd, 2008, 06:20 PM

^^ i most be missing something here because almost all of the houses i have ever seen in africa are no better and usually much worse than the admittedly cookie cutter homes in the u.s. they almost always are some bad nock-off of some european style. never middle eastern, east asian, indian, international, or a modern take on any of the indigenous african styles.

skipperBill

September 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM

^^good point arzaranh.

Apartments and one of Ethiopias biggest shopping malls being developed by Hyat
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5608/20779985111b7a6d90fdbje5.jpg
do you know if they are close to completing this tarrex?
..it looks almost complete in that picture

skipperBill

September 2nd, 2008, 06:36 PM

smaller pics from flickr, but still good.....

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4006/281090365928eee3f3c4oki6.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8109/2811748796c39cf15349orn7.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/634/2811752816db8c3da1b8omc5.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2748/281090911936ed5518feocz4.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4001/2810907557d92c0af5dboes2.jpg

yetale

September 2nd, 2008, 06:50 PM

^so "yetale", are you saying people are compensated (paid) for their property?
...because AfricaLion was saying they are not compensated at all (whatever the amount- big or small).

What I have heard is that some people buy some land or an old house at market value to put up a new house on the plot and if it turns out that the same plot of land is affected by road construction, the owner will get some kind of compensation but far less than the amount he/she paid for it in the first place. So now people are careful not to buy houses in construction affected areas.

yosef

September 3rd, 2008, 04:05 PM

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9580/img1013nd1.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1271/img4070uw7.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7136/img0253au7.jpg

yosef

September 3rd, 2008, 04:14 PM

some more:

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5811/dscn0493fy0wm4.jpg

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6816/ethiopia2007052ju3cw3.jpg

yosef

September 3rd, 2008, 04:15 PM

Does the swiss cafe serve local food? Nothing beats the Ethiopian Anjeera and Doro wot (hope I got the spelling right). Im loving the pics.
lol. I hope they serve local as well but I am not sure if they do.
im digging this pic the big blue glass gives the building a very mordern look

@ yosef sorry i was reffering to yetale
no prob. I like that blue one also.

yosef

September 3rd, 2008, 04:42 PM

here is a short video clip of the area around Beer Garden across the street from Bole Medanhalem:

http://i278.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/album_covers_1/random/P4200018.flv

Tarrex

September 3rd, 2008, 06:36 PM

GREAT pics Yosef! :cheers:

smaller pics from flickr, but still good.....

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2748/281090911936ed5518feocz4.jpg

Is this the Awash tower U/C?

And Welcome Yetale to Skyscrapercity.com!

SAHARA-1

September 3rd, 2008, 09:45 PM

^yes I think it is...because it looks like the rendering:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8346/frontpic0sq.gif

but skipperbill or someone else more familiar with Ethiopia can tell you for sure.

wow that video clip is awesome yosef. :cheers:

yetale

September 3rd, 2008, 11:02 PM

Is this the Awash tower U/C?

And Welcome Yetale to Skyscrapercity.com!

Thank you! You got it, that is Awash Bank's new Head office building.

Ezana

September 4th, 2008, 10:45 PM

mike7743

September 5th, 2008, 01:27 AM

great pictures yosef, thanks. great job guys.

SAHARA-1

September 5th, 2008, 01:55 AM

Nice video! A lot of construction going on. :D
that was exactly my thought as well.
I cant wait to see this place in 10 more years..whew.

abesha

September 5th, 2008, 05:46 PM

Thanks for the pics guys. I love the update of the Gotera interchange; awesome!

People ARE compensated for the land, but they obvioulsy are not given the full price. Those of you complaining about that, do you have ANY idea how expensive land is in Addis right now??
It's INSANE! It's almost unnatural, artificially inflated. My father wanted to buy a house in Bole a couple of years ago. The prices quoted were out of this world. One house we saw, about G+2, in a tiny plot of land, was worth OVER 1.2 million DOLLARS!
How can the government be expected to give market price compensation when the price of land is ridiculous? This is one of the poorest countries in the world, it's absurd that there are properties in the millions. We are not talking mansions here.
Houses in Bole are worth at least $300,000. Most are in the $350-450 000 range. The houses at this price were built in the 80s and 90s and they are nothing to look at. The one that was $1.2 mil was built in the 2000s.

Alex Roney

September 5th, 2008, 06:34 PM

Land is for the government, the people only can lease the land for the state. It's a relic from the Marxist times and the current government still believes in a lot of communist ideology. This is also one of the reasons for rural poverty/ backward agriculture. :ohno: :bash:
Ethiopia is still more a communist state than a capitalist society.

Wow, theirs something I did not know. Even China has private property laws that safe guards that one is entitled to such a thing. If Ethiopia really is to develop further they'll have to reform in this regard. Being entitled to own land is one of the most basic yet most important aspects of any society. I hope the best for Ethiopia.

Really enjoying these pics, keep it up.

yosef

September 5th, 2008, 07:19 PM

Wow, theirs something I did not know. Even China has private property laws that safe guards that one is entitled to such a thing. If Ethiopia really is to develop further they'll have to reform in this regard. Being entitled to own land is one of the most basic yet most important aspects of any society. I hope the best for Ethiopia.

Really enjoying these pics, keep it up.

very true. good points.
Its weird because it doesnt seem to stop people from purchasing and building all these new developements on the land, including factories, buildings, homes..etc. people lease the land for like 99 years but later on they can sell or transfer the land to whomever they want for incredibly inflated prices like abesha was saying.

I cant explain it.

yosef

September 5th, 2008, 07:24 PM

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6792/dsc01542es6yp4.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4475/219addiskg8sa1.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9549/img0878dx1cs1.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5926/dsc00473qz0nl2.jpg

Kwame

September 5th, 2008, 09:18 PM

Thanks for the pictures Yosef! Do you know what that massive looking development in the above picture is called? It looks amazing :banana2:

LucusJ

September 5th, 2008, 11:23 PM

ADDIS ABEBA!!!!!!!!!! :dance: :lol:

African Lion

September 6th, 2008, 06:35 AM

Here is a great article by the great Dr. Seid Hassan of Murray State University on the construction industry and its benefactors (government cadres)

Who is Benefiting from the Flood of Construction Projects in Ethiopia?
Posted 5th September 2008
By Seid Hassan, Ph. D. - Murray State University

Lately, the EPDRF has been showcasing infrastructure building, particularly the road and real estate-based construction that has been taking place in Ethiopia. In one of my previous write-ups, I dismissed the propaganda spread by the EPDRF showing that not only there is no economic development in Ethiopia, but what we observe is misery and squalor. In response to my write-ups, the agents of the government have been busy spreading their lies on many Diaspora paltalk shows about the growth in the economy- a few of them telling us that the economy of Ethiopia was growing at 11.5% in 2008. A majority of them- possibly the ones paid by the EPDRF who do its dirty work- have been seen jumping around on many paltalk shows, showcasing the ongoing road and real estate construction projects. In doing so, they have abhorrently tried to twist the truth and tell their listeners that since there are many road and real estate construction projects as far as the eye could see, there must be an economic development. More (http://abbaymedia.com/News/?p=1758)...

LucusJ

September 6th, 2008, 06:36 AM

^thanks for the article.

ADDIS ABEBA ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance:

Carver02

September 6th, 2008, 06:37 AM

very true. good points.
Its weird because it doesnt seem to stop people from purchasing and building all these new developements on the land, including factories, buildings, homes..etc. people lease the land for like 99 years but later on they can sell or transfer the land to whomever they want for incredibly inflated prices like abesha was saying.

I cant explain it.They do it in the USA also. A lot of malls and other commercial properties are built on land leased for about 99 years from municipalities etc.

LucusJ

September 6th, 2008, 06:43 AM

does anyone know where I can buy this shirt?

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7124/addisclassiciiay4.jpg

LucusJ

September 6th, 2008, 07:04 AM

Ethiopian events, little Ethiopia and this website but it looks like they are out.
http://www.bernos.org/shopping/product-detail.php?item_id=162

I want a Fidel "coca cola" bottles shirt.

^thank you once again AfricaLion. very kind of you

ADDIS ABEBA !!!!!! :dance:

African Lion

September 6th, 2008, 07:05 AM

Ethiopian events, little Ethiopia and this website but it looks like they are out.
http://www.bernos.org/shopping/product-detail.php?item_id=162

I want a Fidel "coca cola" bottles shirt.

heres our pride :nocrook:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2687067120_38fda9627c_b.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

Kwame

September 6th, 2008, 07:34 AM

Good Article.

LucusJ

September 6th, 2008, 08:25 AM

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7683/dsc01542es6.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3792/219addiskg8.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8350/img0878dx1.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1135/dsc00473qz0.jpg
here is a short video clip of the area around Beer Garden across the street from Bole Medanhalem:

http://i278.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/album_covers_1/random/P4200018.flv
okay, okay. I likey. :banana: :lol:

nice can AfricaLion. :okay:

yosef

September 6th, 2008, 09:23 PM

thanks guys. Im glad people are enjoying the stuff I post.
your right Carver, I didnt realize that it is done similarly in some parts of the U.S.
and Crash those developements are part of ECA expansion and part Sunshine Constructions massive building site.

I have a few pics to put up today.

yosef

September 6th, 2008, 09:29 PM

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/44/25867458934e5ced47bfbhwyj1.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2030/259119663291faa33535ozosa8.jpg

African Lion

September 6th, 2008, 10:03 PM

Guys, "private property" is an "absolute must" in Ethiopia. Private property gives people political and economic freedoms. They can receive loans from the bank and the dictatorial government cant use the threat of "taking" their land to oppress them in various ways. The lack of private property from the Feudal times to the recent days of Albanian communism is one of the main reasons of Ethiopian poverty

yosef

September 6th, 2008, 10:06 PM

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4156/25850523956c20024ee8orllf1.jpg

yosef

September 6th, 2008, 10:07 PM

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2382/25858662565cce815181oanau6.jpg

yosef

September 6th, 2008, 10:15 PM

good point Africalion..almost missed your post lol
another one

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3379/dsc00349er3fu2.jpg

LovelyEthiopia

September 7th, 2008, 12:08 AM

I don't believe this.
Is this Addis really?

:applause:

Good job.

Thank you p.m Melas.

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 12:22 AM

^^lol..his name is spelled "Meles" LovelyEthiopia...and believe me he had very little to do with any of this. this is mostly private business and individuals who have come back home to invest their money despite numerous hurdles.

It is beautiful tho to see Addis change so very quickly.

p.s. did you get my private message about how to post your pictures? just use imageshack

Carver02

September 7th, 2008, 07:13 AM

^^lol..his name is spelled "Meles" LovelyEthiopia...and believe me he had very little to do with any of this. this is mostly private business and individuals who have come back home to invest their money despite numerous hurdles.

But we should give the EPRDF due credit. Without the government establishing the proper business climate for these types of investments this development would not be occurring. Governments can support the private sector and they can impede the private sector. At least in real estate, the EPRDF is supporting business.

However you folks feel about the party, I hope you can assess its performance rationally.

African Lion

September 7th, 2008, 09:43 AM

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 06:00 PM

But we should give the EPRDF due credit. Without the government establishing the proper business climate for these types of investments this development would not be occurring. Governments can support the private sector and they can impede the private sector. At least in real estate, the EPRDF is supporting business.

However you folks feel about the party, I hope you can assess its performance rationally.
I think the government establishes a stable nation at least in relative terms. That is really about it. The people who are building all of these billions of dollars worth of investment are really the people who we should praise. People like Sheik Mouhammed Alamoudi, Haile Gebresellassie (who is also an athlete as well as investor), and Ato Samuel Tafesse(owner of Sunshine Construction).

Anyway this is a picture thread not a political thread. We can start another thread to continue this discussion if neccessary. The moderator may ban people if they divert the thread I think.
Lets get back to the pictures.

p.s. AfricaLion...do you have any pictures?
you have posted like 30 times in this thread but not 1 picture :lol:

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 06:07 PM

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1648/img0659xx2wz4.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1225/90d6je7nk0.jpg

Carver02

September 7th, 2008, 09:35 PM

:bash:Praising a man responsible for Genocide, treason, War and Famine is incomprehensible. Who in their right mind thinks "woyane" is a good thing for ethiopia. The skyscrappers are built inspite of Meles and his killers not because of them. Those of us who know economics development know that these buildings are no indicators of our peoples well being.There is no genocide in Ethiopia. If you think there is then you don't know what the word means. Ethiopia is experiencing stronger growth than it has in the past 40 years, at least. Anyone who suggests that Woyane has not done anything right is not in their right mind. How dare any human being praise Woyane and Meles. Its pure sickness.:ohno:That's the kind of radical intolerance which leads to terrorism and civil war. Fortunately, most people don't think the way you do.

I hope you realize that if you and the EPPF continuously try to overthrow the government there will not be long-term sustainable development in Ethiopia. It will be the common man who suffers, not any of the top officials in the EPRDF.

I think the government establishes a stable nation at least in relative terms. That is really about it. The people who are building all of these billions of dollars worth of investment are really the people who we should praise. People like Sheik Mouhammed Alamoudi, Haile Gebresellassie (who is also an athlete as well as investor), and Ato Samuel Tafesse(owner of Sunshine Construction).
A stable nation, but also a legal and banking environment where relatively large loans can be extended and contracts enforced. Also, a functioning bureaucracy, sufficient infrastructure, efficient port and dry-port operations, and a smooth flow of imports and exports.

The progress Ethiopia has made in this regard is evidenced by (among other things) the fact that the world's top accounting firms, such as Ernst and Young, have moved into the country.

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 09:43 PM

^Carver, I appreciate your explaination but lets try to keep this a picture thread huh?

..there is plenty of space for you to address AfricanLion's post or anyone elses by starting a new thread. you could have easily skipped over that post smh..its sad how easy some of us are provoked.

LucusJ

September 7th, 2008, 10:01 PM

I have a picture. I dont know of what it is but it is a picture :laugh:

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2498/1821107011fad518c2c9ub4.jpg

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 10:09 PM

thanks for the picture LucusJ, that is certainly Addis Ababa..looks like a top view
I have a few my self

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8383/56187060372285c1e18ocm9kq1.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3960/2509735784d4c14b1c9ebujnt5.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/349/2508831369137b432e68bmfef3.jpg

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 10:13 PM

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/846/img0447ag9dp7.jpg

yosef

September 7th, 2008, 10:13 PM

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9169/africa257da2bd2.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3075/2072833067b83d749e3aobgxw7.jpg

LovelyEthiopia

September 7th, 2008, 11:50 PM

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 12:20 AM

In my opinion, Meles is a person who is behind all this accomplishment.
We have to give credit for his work.
We are one step closer to overcome poverty.
History will remember him forever.

I want to see more about the change in other economic sectors, such as; Agriculture, hydropower,mining,road and so on. Because this sectors are basic for our fight against poverty.

I hope, yosef will post picture of success in this sectors.

I respect your opinion although I disagree. Like I told Carver though lets keep this strictly pictures.
If you have political topics, post them in another thread. thanks.

Didnt you have some pictures to post? ...you told me you had "alot" of addis ababa pictures. well, post them.

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 12:27 AM

NEW HOTEL IN ADDIS!: Sidama Lodge
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9409/2321675618568d8e00a1bpefx0.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2968/21268513219c217ecd5fbobch1.jpg

SAHARA-1

September 8th, 2008, 12:29 AM

wow, this thread got huge! 600+ posts already. :cheers:

And people should keep the politics out of picture threads.
Im going to notify the SE9 and the other mods about people that keep spamming threads on this forum with irrelevant topics.

nice hotel.

SAHARA-1

September 8th, 2008, 12:31 AM

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5357/22657036786508fa1819ome1.jpg

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 01:05 AM

thanks for the help SAHARA
it seems like I am the only one posting pictures anymore

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1521/hpim1656py0sf9.jpg

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 01:05 AM

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2873/img0236ox8fd8.jpg

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 01:06 AM

look at these mannequins on the balcony posing :laugh:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/999/imgp6342wp6pl8.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2277/imgp6335ct9iz6.jpg

African Lion

September 8th, 2008, 05:12 AM

I agree, we should talk about politics/economics on another thread. I thought I already told Carver about this evil government but he wont listen to reason. By the way I have posted some pictures in the Addis/east africa forums in the past. I havent posted much because everything looks like a repeat of past pictures.

yosef

September 8th, 2008, 06:46 AM

^lol @ evil government.
believe me AfricaLion, no one will judge your pictures harshly...if they are old, or have been posted already or whatever.
post the pictures man :laugh:

we would all love to see them.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6171/img0835dl0.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7780/img0837vc6.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3346/img0841rb0.jpg

Tarrex

September 8th, 2008, 10:31 AM

Politics in the ''The Oasis'' guys!

btw, Where is your 1000 pictures that you promised us AFrican Lion?:)

Kenguy

September 8th, 2008, 04:31 PM

look at these mannequins on the balcony posing :laugh:

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1525/imgp6342wp6.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/580/imgp6335ct9.jpg
^^
They also put mannequins on balconies in Kampala but this is more dramatic.:lol:

LovelyEthiopia

September 8th, 2008, 07:23 PM

I had one picture that I tried to post it. But you already did it.
The one, it says 5 star Hotel for Lake Tana.
By the way, do u live in Ethiopia? If u are, try to find pictures of other cities too.

Ezana

September 9th, 2008, 01:06 AM

Governments don't cause Economic growth - people do. As Reagan said (his economic rhetoric was okay, but his actions were corporatist) - "a government can't control the economy without controlling people." I will say that they're a lot better than the Derg, but there are far too many price control mechanisms in place, and the total governmental dominance of the real estate industry (only ones who own the land) must end. People are ignoring it, at least, which will put pressure on ending that fact.

Here are some more photos from flickr of recent developments:

At Sar Bet:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2839726929_f9ca168afe_o.jpg

National Theatre

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2840558984_3d63117e74_o.jpg

Awash International Bank and Awash Insurance Company skyscrapers

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2835304887_070cbe23ed_o.jpg

arzaranh

September 9th, 2008, 03:58 AM

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2873/img0236ox8fd8.jpg
is this Entoto?

Ezana

September 10th, 2008, 02:27 AM

Here are some more photos of construction around Addis from flickr

Mauritania street around the old airport:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/2108821320_86029a783f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/2326253370_9f5daca090_o.jpg

Churchill road

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2211/2147102545_95da44c9e3_b.jpg

HoverMed NGO

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2218472763_8a860c18a5.jpg

Not sure where

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/2124684466_679a038e19.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2506255662_60fa5a2eee_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/2263690748_abe19df89b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2233/2383838010_0948783514_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2477054832_d52d43a310_b.jpg

Confusion square

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2325420839_5ace6087dd_o.jpg

Off of Bole Rd, near Edna mall

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2337289356_57932f0a1b_o.jpg

Interior shot of a construction site (don't know building)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2477160834_28241e0d80.jpg?v=1210285850

Laphto entertainment center

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2477829973_eb6f0304a2_b.jpg

Future wifi hotspot

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2477139236_0041a1a301.jpg

Future art gallery
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/2476319639_6868f67ba1.jpg

IamleEthio

September 15th, 2008, 05:45 AM

Hello, I have been watching this site for a long time and I love what you guys do. I missed my country a lot and since I can't just get up and go whenever I feel like it, this was my way of visiting. So, thanks a lot for posting all these pictures.
This summer I actually went to visit Ethiopia and it was great. I saw some of the places that I found on this thread, and I got excited every time. Ohh... I also saw those funny mannequins and I actually went up just to look at them up close. Now I get excited when I see pictures of places that I've been to.

lamrof

September 24th, 2008, 12:09 PM

Expecting little change despite what I saw in this site, I landed in Addis 3 weeks ago, with a heavy heart full of old momories.

Driving via Bole road at midnight, through Meskel Adebabay, on to Cherchill road, past the NBS school, HabteGirogis Dildy, Mesgjid, Autobus Tera, Mesalmia.... my thought was, how old things looked, how crampled, How messy and used up and down this were. roads, cars, billboards, doors, roofs, trrafic lights, donkeys, tyers, brooms, shoes, everything used and pounded beyond recognition from its original new state. Most of all everything felt smaller, the city, even the distance from Bole to my brith home felt shorter now than before. Maybe my head grew I don't know, but I know I weigh the same.

The following morning after a heart warming breakfast fitfit at home, I set out to tour the city. I cannot tell you how I felt that morning. My heart fell to the ground. I was telling myself, comeon you should be ready for this, but my lord....everyone looks dirty, sooooo dirty, dirty clothes, torn shoes, uncombed dirty hair, women walking around on shoes covering only half of their feet....but wait.......noooooooooo wait......
a few feet down our house a guy wrapped in a plastic wrapper from a waist down was laying in the rain. Some distance down a guy was laying in an open sewer/rain drain head first on his back. He was moving but his eyes were closed and people were just walking as if everything is normal.

Goodnees God...what is it?? What is wrong with people... I thought I was in concentration camp. I tell you all, I truned right around and went home and cried, uncontrollably. I wanted to leave, I wanted it to be a dream...I felt a dark menacing dome hanging over me... I heard a knock... it was my Mom.. coffee in one hand, Defo Dabo in the other. I said nothing to her about my feelings that morning.

I feel better now after 3 weeks here but I was shocked beyound belief that morning and the few days after that. The amazing thing is my mind is trying to block things that makes it uncomfortable. I learned to look the other way like Adisabans do. That is the problem though. Everyone looks away, from the mess everywhere, the stench in Atikilt Tera, from the fly ridden Timatim for sale at a road side, from the stream of wash water splashed out on the street by a woman, from the smoke and dust leaking into the cabin of the mini bus taxis they are riding, the insolent insults of the Weyalas... everyone is oblivious, just look away and everyting will be just fine.

Oh yes I saw the buildings, the roads built which are crumbling already by the way, the new cafes selling mouth watering Macchiatos and Pizzas. But I also saw Adisabans unchanged or at least uninvolved on things that matter to them as a community, unhappy how they have become outcasts in the political process. It seems they have accepted their fate, may be they feel trapped just like my borther put it. At least he shares my shock how shabby, crowded, dirty and almost disfunctional Adisaba has become. He told me he goes to his business and tries never ever to come out of there in the day time. He said even when he needs to have his shoes polished, he would change into slippers and ask someone to take his shoes outside to the Listros.

As someone wrote Hope is odacious. So I hope like you all do that someday we will see some good.
Indeed Addisaba is one of the dirtiest cities in the world. (The sixth to be exact according to the UN)
and the most expensive and the hardest to clean up. You take climate, landscape, existing infrastructure, severity of the problem, willingness to chagne, awareness of the problem, etc... Addissaba is labled the hardes and the most expensive to clean up. That is why hope is adacious.

I say to you though let's not only look at the pleasant part of the garden just to feel good and look away from the bad side. We ought to look at where things don't look that much rosey. May be involvment on ideas here and there for a soulution will do wonders for your feelings.

Carver02

September 25th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Very thoughtful post. Thanks, lamrof. And welcome.

nairoberry

September 25th, 2008, 02:12 AM

I say to you though let's not only look at the pleasant part of the garden just to feel good and look away from the bad side. We ought to look at where things don't look that much rosey. May be involvment on ideas here and there for a soulution will do wonders for your feelings.

i feel u dawg i feel what u b saying but i believe that all the ethiopians on here exactly understand the problems of adisababa they(like many other threads) wanna show the beauty of the city. its not coz they they are dellusioned or living in a fantasy world they just try to potray the beauty and the progress the city is trying to make contrary to what bbc and cnn show.

trust me most of these forumers (i dare say all of them) really know what the situation in addis and if they start posting all the negative news and pics then this site also becomes like the thousand others floating allover the net. nways i apreciate your honest report of what u saw. WELCOME TO SSC

IamleEthio

September 25th, 2008, 02:48 AM

You get used to it after a little while, but I do have to admit that the first few days were very difficult for me as well. I think it is also very different for people who go back after a very long period of time.

LucusJ

September 25th, 2008, 06:52 AM

do any of you new "Ethiopians" new to SSC have any pictures?

.....let me guess.....NO.

am I correct? If not prove me wrong.
take your essays to another thread thanks so much :)

LucusJ

September 25th, 2008, 06:53 AM

oh and welcome to SSC. :)

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 01:42 PM

Some pics. Don't know how to post the actual photo instead of the link.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30795908@N05/2887480118/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30795908@N05/2887480136/

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2887480140_ba71c3063a.jpg?v=0

This is Mexico square area seen from the Shebele Hotel 10th floor.

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:46 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2887480136_c469a4fb4b.jpg?v=0

Looking down from the 11th floor balcony of the Shebele Hotel.

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:51 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2887480170_2f026774c3.jpg?v=0

Same Mexico square area and Tegbreied.

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:53 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2887480168_91c0a4f292.jpg?v=0

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:57 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2887480118_3a0cd6f3fe.jpg?v=0

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 02:59 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2887480118_3a0cd6f3fe_b.jpg

lamrof

September 25th, 2008, 03:02 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2887480136_c469a4fb4b_b.jpg

LucusJ

September 25th, 2008, 04:24 PM

thank you lamrof. that is exactly what I wanted to see

excellent, excellent work man. :cheers:

gniewoszow

September 25th, 2008, 06:23 PM

LucusJ

September 25th, 2008, 07:23 PM

Ethiopia for people in Europe is associated with poverty, famine, but I see in pictures, that you are going good way, like in China, in a few years people will rub your eyes with disbelief
greetings from Poland
yes sir thank you so much. Greetings to Poland as well, I want to visit Warsaw :banana: :banana: :)

African Lion

September 25th, 2008, 10:24 PM

Lamrof, Thank you for sharing your story. I too went to Addis and was disappointed with the poverty and wealth equality in the city. I'm a fan of skyscrapers in general but I dont consider them as a sign of progress or economic development. The best thing that Ethiopians in the diaspora can do is to get involved in charity, politics and economics. Charity itself is not enough and we need to get at the root cause of the problem and that is politics and economics.

yetale

September 25th, 2008, 11:29 PM

Expecting little change despite what I saw in this site, I landed in Addis 3 weeks ago, with a heavy heart full of old momories.....things don't look that much rosey. May be involvment on ideas here and there for a soulution will do wonders for your feelings.

Thank you for sharing your story here with everyone. Most of us who have been back to the mother land share your feels. The fact is that povery is rampant everywhere. You will find gettos and poor neighbourhoods less than a mile from Capitol Hill in Washington DC. Povery in Addis Ababa is especially hard to take in because Addis does not have secluded slums like Nairobi or most other capitals. In Nairobi Kibera is far removed from the nicely managed downtown, in addis everything is out in the open. This tread is a place where ethiopians come to feel good about their country. Obviously there is no shortage of news to remind us about poverty, war, famine etc, SSC is an escape from all of that.

nairoberry

September 26th, 2008, 01:34 AM

there is no shortage of news to remind us about poverty, war, famine etc, SSC is an escape from all of that.

well said my friend. honestly if it wasnt for this forum i would neva have found out excatly what progress addis is making.

LucusJ

September 26th, 2008, 02:49 AM

I am glad to see this thread is moving once again, It was silent for a moment :banana::banana:

hopefully we will continue

pictures

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6442/284548793370a3df0020ovk7.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7301/kazancd0.png

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6564/2845487929affba6a399osk0.jpg

lamrof

September 26th, 2008, 07:14 AM

One of the biggest problems in Addisaba is how people are uninvolved. They know, yes indeed they know the city has almost became unlivable, rude, disorderly and of course too ditry to live in. They also care but they don't act other than complaining to each other about the issue.

The fix starts by getting the people involved in action.

Hard to believe a judge, a college professor, a priest, a business wo/men, a teacher, A mother, A Father, Police officers, a respected community elder, a brilliant student, those from the diaspora, etc.... just walk around trapped in a culture of indifference. That is the killer. I think one the most important measures one can take is identify and mobilize those who are respected in the community. There are millions of them. If these citizens are identifeid, they can be given a speical ID card, a badge or some type of emblem to identify who they are. They can be labled as "caring citizens" or "Hassabi Zega" or "Kibur Zega" They can be supported by the city government, so their call is answered if any. I think these citizens can go about in their daily lives and make comments at the common wo/man to behave better. Mothers can give a passing "Mikir" or "Gitsesa". Say something to those who misbehave, that what the other did was "Newir" These respected citizens can be given a right
to call on other "Kibur Zegas" to join them in a situation.

I know this is naive but its a thought. The idea is to intill a culture of action.
It may not solve it now or may not solve it ever but will help to improve the disasterous situation now. One can argue the problem in Addis is unemployment, skyrocketig food prices, deteriorating housing conditions, etc... I tell you though these are not excuses for the MiniBus driver to throw a pile of loose paper out the window and never even care look where it landed. A bar hopper who decides to pee at the exit of the bar as he leaves instead of using the toilet. A cherchari who doesn't care to cover a sambusa he is trying to sell with a piece of cloth but let it darken from the pile of flys on it. A taxi driver who takes of his shoes while driving and doesn't care what his customers smell. A lady who washes her feet on the side of the street and just splash the wash water right where pedisterians are passing by instead of carrying it to the roadside drain.

"Kibur Citizens" can condemn the Taxi driver what he dis was wrong. He will think twice next time. Tell the bar hopper he could have used the toilet inside the bar and that his action is unacceptable. Tell the cherchari to please cover the food items he is selling with something. Tell the Taxi driver to please put his shoes on and advise him to be sensitive to others. Tell the lady she could have done the right thing by carrying the water to the stormdrain.
These are not agressive measures but are "Mikir" done in descretion. The "Kibur Citizens" can also influence themselves and those close to them. There is a ripple effect that can make a difference everywehre. In time people will not even have to be told, they will hold themselves when they is there are "Hassabi Citizens" around.

Taxis

I think Addis has a smart transportation sisytem given the lack of mass transit. However most Minibas and Wiyiyit driver and Weyalas are insolent and contribute to Addisabas being unruly.

I think Addissaba needs to register all Taxi service givers under a "Taxi Mahiber" and have 10s of "Taxi Mahibers". Each individual Taxi Mahiber should be given a single license and should be allowed to have numerous but limited amount of membership. Therefore each taxi has to be part of a single Mahiber. If a Taxi driver or a Weyala misbehaves the Mahiber should be contacted and told to correct the situation. If the Mahiber cannot fix the issue then the license of the Mahiber can be cancelled making hundreds of Taxis pay for the fault of one. This way each Taxi will watch the other, the Mahiber will be feared and Taxis are regulated to give good services. This is how it is done in west.

Anythoughts are welcome.

African Lion

September 26th, 2008, 11:11 AM

abesha

September 26th, 2008, 02:48 PM

Lamrof, I appreciate your comments but you have to talk about this on another tread.
- This tread is strictly for pictures and short comments.
- Long dialogues and any political/ economic discussions would be appropriate in the African Oasis forum.
- Like everyone says, Lets appreciate the Beauty of "Addisava", "Finfinne".

You can make go to the Oasis forum and discuss an "Addis Ababa culture" thread and we can talk about the decaying infrastructure and society. I understand where your coming from but this is not the appropriate place to talk about it in length.

Thank you!

It's also unfair to blame Addis Ababa residents for inaction. What do you want them to do? There's only so much room to maneuver. The main issue in Ethiopia as a whole is lack of political leadership. Once that's on the right path, the rest can be worked on.
It's ridiculous to think that Addis residents don't care, it's just that they've given up. You have to understand that your perspective is that of someone who doesn't live there, you are technically as foreign as any other foreign-national.
Your attitude would be different if you lived there (like I did for years). You cannot help but become indifferent.

StormShadow

September 26th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Ezana is in the building! The very same Ezana from that other board ? ;) :cheers1:

Nice pictures guys, keep it coming!

yosef

September 29th, 2008, 04:31 AM

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3694/23603417065f700b3ec3ony4.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3333/2360346772416a000b72ohd3.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7831/236034272495ff7fdce1owo4.jpg

yosef

September 29th, 2008, 04:36 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 04:41 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 05:07 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 05:11 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 05:12 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 05:14 AM

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yosef

September 29th, 2008, 05:15 AM

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LovelyEthiopia

September 30th, 2008, 05:53 PM

What a hell is going on.
Do we start producing crude oil or what?:applause:
unbelievable.

StormShadow

September 30th, 2008, 06:20 PM

The development is continuous, keeps on going. Very good. :applause:

Ezana

October 8th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Kazanchis construction

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Bole Road

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Meskel Square

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Friendship shopping center

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Puschkin Square/Sar Bet

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Imperial hotel

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Skyline views

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IamleEthio

October 10th, 2008, 01:50 AM

Those were really nice pictures. Thank you, Ezana, for posting them.

BUTEMBO21

October 10th, 2008, 01:56 AM

This city is on STEROIDS.

That' a lot of mushrooms.

Congratilations ADDIS ABABA.

lamrof

October 12th, 2008, 12:57 AM

This city is on STEROIDS.

That' a lot of mushrooms.

Congratilations ADDIS ABABA.

The people in the city say "Government we did not elect you"
The government say "screw you people we will build the city if you like it or not"

You now have a city where the people don't feel like they belong to and a government feeling unwelcome. As a result, Addis is muddy, dusty, smelly, shabby and unorganized mess. The city is close to being unlivable. The UN labeled it the 6th dirtiest city in the wold and the most expensive to clean up.

There are also lots of social issues caused by poverty, cultural backwardness and then plain old indifference. You have homeless children and babies sleeping on sides of busy avenues in the day time while their parents have wondered off. People are immune to this scene and walk around like its a personal issue rather than a social issue. In fact the people do not think the city belongs to them as a single social entity. They see it a place to make money and come back to their homes to live. A weird but a very true concept that is killing the city.

Some dose of truth I thought will work to spice things up a bit.

nairoberry

October 12th, 2008, 01:01 AM

The city is close to being unlivable.

i never been to AA but i disagree with that last sentence

lamrof

October 12th, 2008, 02:40 AM

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lamrof

October 12th, 2008, 02:44 AM

i never been to AA but i disagree with that last sentence

Go and see. Go to places like Mesquid, Habtegiorgis, Autobus tera, Mesalemia, Amanuiel Berenda, Gojam Berenda, Selam sefer, Atena tera, Atikilt tera, Merkato,

BUTEMBO21

October 12th, 2008, 02:48 AM

The people in the city say "Government we did not elect you"
The government say "screw you people we will build the city if you like it or not"

You now have a city where the people don't feel like they belong to and a government feeling unwelcome. As a result, Addis is muddy, dusty, smelly, shabby and unorganized mess. The city is close to being unlivable. The UN labeled it the 6th dirtiest city in the wold and the most expensive to clean up.

There are also lots of social issues caused by poverty, cultural backwardness and then plain old indifference. You have homeless children and babies sleeping on sides of busy avenues in the day time while their parents have wondered off. People are immune to this scene and walk around like its a personal issue rather than a social issue. In fact the people do not think the city belongs to them as a single social entity. They see it a place to make money and come back to their homes to live. A weird but a very true concept that is killing the city.

Some dose of truth I thought will work to spice things up a bit.

I never been to Addis Ababa. you are the first one i hear talking about this city that way. it's looks like you have a problem with ETHIOPIA.

Where are you from anyway?

Tarrex

October 12th, 2008, 02:50 PM

BUTEMBO21

October 12th, 2008, 04:01 PM

Almost every developing city share the same problems. There is nothing unique about the problems Addis Ababa is facing today. Addis ababa is home to millions of people, ofc it's unorganized. Instead of just telling us the bad over and over agian you could atleast suggest solutions.

I think that the goverment has a responsibility to educate the people and equip the city with the necessary facilities.

But who should we really blame? the goverment or the poverty?
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There is no one to blame for those problems. because the country is developing at a such fast rate. secondly. No country city can be clean if the unempyment is to high. look at LOS ANGLES how dirty is compare to SAN FRANSISCO. every big city has a big sanitation problem. it's not like the government or the people don't care. it's having the nessecery means to do it.

yosef

October 12th, 2008, 09:02 PM

The UN labeled it the 6th dirtiest city in the wold and the most expensive to clean up.

Some dose of truth I thought will work to spice things up a bit.
when you say " a dose of truth" ....you should make sure what you are saying is the actual "TRUTH".

The U.N. has never listed "dirtiest cities" lists and Addis was never #6 on any such list, ignoring the fact that such a list from the U.N. doesnt exist in the first place. What you speaking about is the Forbes list, which is simply a list published by a private magazine in the United States...

here is the complete list:

No. 1: Baku, Azerbaijan
No. 2: Dhaka, Bangladesh
No. 3: Antananarivo, Madagascar
No. 4: Port au Prince, Haiti
No. 5: Mexico City, Mexico
No. 6: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
No. 7: Mumbai, India
No. 8: Baghdad, Iraq
No. 9: Almaty, Kazakhstan
No. 10: Brazzaville, Congo
No. 11: Ndjamena, Chad
No. 12: Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
No. 13: Bangui, Central African Republic
No. 14: Moscow, Russia
No. 15: Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso
No. 16: Bamako, Mali
No. 17: Pointe Noire, Congo
No. 18: Lome, Togo
No. 19: Conakry, Guinea Republic
No. 20: Nouakchott, Mauritania
No. 21: Niamey, Niger
No. 22: Luanda, Angola
No. 23: Maputo, Mozambique
No. 24: New Delhi, India
No. 25: Port Harcourt, Nigeria

http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/24/pollution-baku-oil-biz-logistics-cx_tl_0226dirtycities_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=15000

^^as you can see in that list, more than half are African cities which is why the list has been criticized by many as very unfair and bordering on racist. Cities like Kabul, Afghanistan (in the middle of a war) and Detriot (very dirty from personal experience), U.S. are not even listed.

Also some unreachable places like Mogadishu, Somalia are not listed because the publishers of the list were too afraid to make a trip there....go figure. So instead they just like to pretend Mogadishu doesn't exist.

yosef

October 12th, 2008, 09:12 PM

^^The reason I posted that list is not to say that it is not important. It is still important that Addis would be considered by anybody as a dirty city among the worlds cities, and I think it is good to point out that this perception and state of affairs must change. At the same time we have to put everything into context.

very good points by Tarrex and BUTEMBO were made and I would like to add on them.

This city in the midst of a major change, sociological and infrastructure wise. Alot of this causes much imagined chaos and disorganization. In the end though the change that such improvements will bring outweighs the negatives.

Also we must compare Addis, and Ethiopia for that matter, today to the same places 15 or 20 years ago. The road coverage in Addis today and back then is incomparable. The physical work of putting these roads together causes alot of mess...for example mud puddles during the rainy season because of excavation work. These types of things are temporary and they usually go away once the work is done.

Last but not least we have to consider that a country like Ethiopia only has so much means to do everything. It cant build roads, infrastructure etc. and at the same time make sure a city is squeeky clean with no beggars and street kids out and about. Hey...NOT EVEN A SUPERPOWER LIKE THE US CAN DO SUCH A THING.

Go to any corner in New York City and tell me if you dont see homeless people or litter or potholes in the streets or something out of place somewhere.

Lets give these nations trying to better themselves some encouragement and morale instead of just criticism. And if we criticize let us at least come up with some solutions that take into account financial and capacity limitations.