http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Picture001.jpg

Muelle Osmena circa 1945.
The mountains of Cebu City certainly looks the same.

^^ Uy, Paraw! Is this where Oponganons and Cebuanos disembark before? Sa mismong MetroFerry port?

Anyway, happy fiesta para Nuestra Sra de la Regla de Opon. :)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Picture001.jpg

Muelle Osmena circa 1945.
The mountains of Cebu City certainly looks the same.

^^ Uy, Paraw! Is this where Oponganons and Cebuanos disembark before? Sa mismong MetroFerry port?

Anyway, happy fiesta para Nuestra Sra de la Regla de Opon. :)

@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...


@Harvey

Beautiful! We were supposed to go inside Villalon House 2 weeks ago, kaso lang nag-away diay daw ang brother ug si Architect V., and the sad thing is the brother is the one taking care of the house right now...

Do you have photos of the old Palace of Justice? I remember early 1990s the old one was demolished to give way to the construction of the Palace of Justice that we have right now..


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Picture-1.jpg







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@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...


@Harvey

Beautiful! We were supposed to go inside Villalon House 2 weeks ago, kaso lang nag-away diay daw ang brother ug si Architect V., and the sad thing is the brother is the one taking care of the house right now...

Do you have photos of the old Palace of Justice? I remember early 1990s the old one was demolished to give way to the construction of the Palace of Justice that we have right now..


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Picture-1.jpg







..:..

@ Arnold:

Although your query is for Sir Jobers I'll answer it nonetheless Hehe (magbuot-buot ko haha) Col. Manuel Segura (ret.) grab a copy of his book! The Battle of Tabunan! (i think it's out of print, I remember several years back USC had copies of those, mejo dog eared and tattered na) hehe he served in the guerilla wars with a grand-uncle, Maj. Napoleon Abella aka Leon sa Labangon(so-called because he ordered a "platoon" of captured Japanese soldiers to be executed on the spot)

Regarding the Villalon mansion, I'll check my grand dad's albums if he has pictures of the interiors, give me a few days, I still have skim through the albums.

Hmmm the old palace of justice, i'll check on that :)

@ Arnold:

Although your query is for Sir Jobers I'll answer it nonetheless Hehe (magbuot-buot ko haha) Col. Manuel Segura (ret.) grab a copy of his book! The Battle of Tabunan! (i think it's out of print, I remember several years back USC had copies of those, mejo dog eared and tattered na) hehe he served in the guerilla wars with a grand-uncle, Maj. Napoleon Abella aka Leon sa Labangon(so-called because he ordered a "platoon" of captured Japanese soldiers to be executed on the spot)

Regarding the Villalon mansion, I'll check my grand dad's albums if he has pictures of the interiors, give me a few days, I still have skim through the albums.

Hmmm the old palace of justice, i'll check on that :)

@ Arnold:

Alas, I still have to find pictures...
I hope this would be an eyeopener
COPYRIGHT 2003 Financial Times Ltd.

(From Philippine Daily Inquirer)

Byline: Agusto F. Villalon

IN CEBU City, there is a house on a hill that is impossible to hide from anyone because it sticks out so much due to its location.

The house stands on a small hill that once stood all alone above the city. Today the little hill is actually lower than the high-rises being constructed near its foot. Development is encroaching on the once prime location.

High-rise developments notwithstanding, the house stands out anyway.

The orchard of bonsai fruit trees (none are over 8 ft tall) on the slope of the hill forms a leafy pedestal for the house built in that great postwar 1950s "Spanish" style which is very romantic and Filipino, not anywhere near anything built in Spain at all. The house has the quality of a fantasy.

The house is a three-story structure with a two-story lookout tower rising out of its center. It is an architectural confection of neo-Pinoy/Spanish arches, open verandahs, little balconies under tile-trimmed roofs, and voluptuous open stairways which wind around the exterior facade.

The interior of the house picks up its design cues from tropical architecture. Each bedroom has large windows flanking glass doors that open to a small private balcony.

Strong light and fresh air constantly flow (actually overflow) through all the rooms in the house. Ceilings are extra high. There is absolutely no feeling of enclosure.

Totally transparent

In the Filipino tradition, the house is totally transparent. In the interior, the large living and dining room leads into either a wraparound verandah or to the bedrooms which open out into small balconies cantilevered from the exterior wall.

It is a layering of spaces, from private to public; no single space is completely enclosed from the other in the same way that the spaces in a bahay na bato flow into each other.

The long living-dining area crosses the length of the house. In true Filipino fashion, the hardwood floors and paneled walls are polished to mirror-perfection.

The living and dining areas flow into a deep verandah whose arches open to a view of the city up to the harbor, to the airport on Mactan Island, and on those typically clear Cebuano days, to a sweeping vista of the Bohol hills across the sea.

The house commands an unsurpassed view of the city but with the view comes a price: The city's view of the house is equally as unsurpassed. It is a goldfish bowl in full sight from practically any point of the city.

Being such an obvious sight, there is great curiosity about the house and even more about what goes on inside it. And what speculation there is.

It is supposed to be the haunt of transparent, white-robed ethereal beings that float about once the sun comes down and the lights are turned off.

But when more lights than usual are turned on at night, people inquire the following morning who the guests were for dinner the night before.

It is a tourist destination. Strangers would often drive up asking to see the house and its garden.

Someone once told me that he would notice which flowers were in bloom in the garden. To see that, I thought, would need binoculars. I concluded voyeurism.

Can't live it down

There definitely were tribulations about living there, but it was good house for growing up in. I loved it.

Although I kept trying to live it down, the house did have its bonuses.

In the Pinoy connectivity game, with each new acquaintance you meet, connectivity must be established. The ice-breaker is a roll call of names to find out who you both know, or, better still, could both be distantly related to. As soon as sets of names connect, acceptance comes and the relationship moves many notches above acquaintance level.

My connectivity game worked differently. I was not like my friends who tied into people or common relations. My connectivity factor was to a place.

Now I realize that my childhood house came with life lessons. From hanging around when it was being built, I got a feel of what it was like to construct spaces. I got to like the smell of sawdust, of concrete, and of the heady pungency of varnish.

Accepting my identification with a house as my own special reality could have contributed to making me relate to places easily, laying the foundation of a career that is focused on keeping places-special or ordinary ones-from disappearing into the past.

My childhood house came with life lessons, but then that's my story and something for me to be thankful for.

Keeping places alive is what pride of place is all about. Pride of place is where a lot of things begin. It roots us to our individual heritage. It roots us to our nation. It helps us to become the Filipinos that we keep struggling to be but somehow keep failing to reach.

After a decade of writing architecture and heritage columns, the time has arrived to usher in a new season by renaming this column "Pride of Place," which is what it has really always been all about.

We Filipinos have been creating such exceptional places throughout our long history. It is such a shame that not too many of us have learned to really feel proud about them, even less to care for them so that we can pass these places on to our next generation. Time is running out.

With a deep sense of Pride of Place, we will have all the motivation we need to do just that.

E-mail the author at afvillalon@hotmail.com


COPYRIGHT 2003 Financial Times Ltd.

@ Arnold:

Alas, I still have to find pictures...
I hope this would be an eyeopener
COPYRIGHT 2003 Financial Times Ltd.

(From Philippine Daily Inquirer)

Byline: Agusto F. Villalon

IN CEBU City, there is a house on a hill that is impossible to hide from anyone because it sticks out so much due to its location.

The house stands on a small hill that once stood all alone above the city. Today the little hill is actually lower than the high-rises being constructed near its foot. Development is encroaching on the once prime location.

High-rise developments notwithstanding, the house stands out anyway.

The orchard of bonsai fruit trees (none are over 8 ft tall) on the slope of the hill forms a leafy pedestal for the house built in that great postwar 1950s "Spanish" style which is very romantic and Filipino, not anywhere near anything built in Spain at all. The house has the quality of a fantasy.

The house is a three-story structure with a two-story lookout tower rising out of its center. It is an architectural confection of neo-Pinoy/Spanish arches, open verandahs, little balconies under tile-trimmed roofs, and voluptuous open stairways which wind around the exterior facade.

The interior of the house picks up its design cues from tropical architecture. Each bedroom has large windows flanking glass doors that open to a small private balcony.

Strong light and fresh air constantly flow (actually overflow) through all the rooms in the house. Ceilings are extra high. There is absolutely no feeling of enclosure.

Totally transparent

In the Filipino tradition, the house is totally transparent. In the interior, the large living and dining room leads into either a wraparound verandah or to the bedrooms which open out into small balconies cantilevered from the exterior wall.

It is a layering of spaces, from private to public; no single space is completely enclosed from the other in the same way that the spaces in a bahay na bato flow into each other.

The long living-dining area crosses the length of the house. In true Filipino fashion, the hardwood floors and paneled walls are polished to mirror-perfection.

The living and dining areas flow into a deep verandah whose arches open to a view of the city up to the harbor, to the airport on Mactan Island, and on those typically clear Cebuano days, to a sweeping vista of the Bohol hills across the sea.

The house commands an unsurpassed view of the city but with the view comes a price: The city's view of the house is equally as unsurpassed. It is a goldfish bowl in full sight from practically any point of the city.

Being such an obvious sight, there is great curiosity about the house and even more about what goes on inside it. And what speculation there is.

It is supposed to be the haunt of transparent, white-robed ethereal beings that float about once the sun comes down and the lights are turned off.

But when more lights than usual are turned on at night, people inquire the following morning who the guests were for dinner the night before.

It is a tourist destination. Strangers would often drive up asking to see the house and its garden.

Someone once told me that he would notice which flowers were in bloom in the garden. To see that, I thought, would need binoculars. I concluded voyeurism.

Can't live it down

There definitely were tribulations about living there, but it was good house for growing up in. I loved it.

Although I kept trying to live it down, the house did have its bonuses.

In the Pinoy connectivity game, with each new acquaintance you meet, connectivity must be established. The ice-breaker is a roll call of names to find out who you both know, or, better still, could both be distantly related to. As soon as sets of names connect, acceptance comes and the relationship moves many notches above acquaintance level.

My connectivity game worked differently. I was not like my friends who tied into people or common relations. My connectivity factor was to a place.

Now I realize that my childhood house came with life lessons. From hanging around when it was being built, I got a feel of what it was like to construct spaces. I got to like the smell of sawdust, of concrete, and of the heady pungency of varnish.

Accepting my identification with a house as my own special reality could have contributed to making me relate to places easily, laying the foundation of a career that is focused on keeping places-special or ordinary ones-from disappearing into the past.

My childhood house came with life lessons, but then that's my story and something for me to be thankful for.

Keeping places alive is what pride of place is all about. Pride of place is where a lot of things begin. It roots us to our individual heritage. It roots us to our nation. It helps us to become the Filipinos that we keep struggling to be but somehow keep failing to reach.

After a decade of writing architecture and heritage columns, the time has arrived to usher in a new season by renaming this column "Pride of Place," which is what it has really always been all about.

We Filipinos have been creating such exceptional places throughout our long history. It is such a shame that not too many of us have learned to really feel proud about them, even less to care for them so that we can pass these places on to our next generation. Time is running out.

With a deep sense of Pride of Place, we will have all the motivation we need to do just that.

E-mail the author at afvillalon@hotmail.com


COPYRIGHT 2003 Financial Times Ltd.

^^hopefully the Villalons could collaborate with an organization or the city/provincial government to turn their house into a museum, considering its location and charm, and of course, Cebu's lack of museums

^^hopefully the Villalons could collaborate with an organization or the city/provincial government to turn their house into a museum, considering its location and charm, and of course, Cebu's lack of museums

@ Arnold:

Although your query is for Sir Jobers I'll answer it nonetheless Hehe (magbuot-buot ko haha) Col. Manuel Segura (ret.) grab a copy of his book! The Battle of Tabunan! (i think it's out of print, I remember several years back USC had copies of those, mejo dog eared and tattered na) hehe he served in the guerilla wars with a grand-uncle, Maj. Napoleon Abella aka Leon sa Labangon(so-called because he ordered a "platoon" of captured Japanese soldiers to be executed on the spot)

Regarding the Villalon mansion, I'll check my grand dad's albums if he has pictures of the interiors, give me a few days, I still have skim through the albums.

Hmmm the old palace of justice, i'll check on that :)

Ok thanks Attorney..hehe..


@pirena

Unta bai.. sayang lang, the house is in a middle of a conflict man diay..

Mas nindot if himuon ug "Bed & Breakfast".. adaptive reuse ba, hehe.. daghan naman ta ug museum ui..


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@ Arnold:

Although your query is for Sir Jobers I'll answer it nonetheless Hehe (magbuot-buot ko haha) Col. Manuel Segura (ret.) grab a copy of his book! The Battle of Tabunan! (i think it's out of print, I remember several years back USC had copies of those, mejo dog eared and tattered na) hehe he served in the guerilla wars with a grand-uncle, Maj. Napoleon Abella aka Leon sa Labangon(so-called because he ordered a "platoon" of captured Japanese soldiers to be executed on the spot)

Regarding the Villalon mansion, I'll check my grand dad's albums if he has pictures of the interiors, give me a few days, I still have skim through the albums.

Hmmm the old palace of justice, i'll check on that :)

Ok thanks Attorney..hehe..


@pirena

Unta bai.. sayang lang, the house is in a middle of a conflict man diay..

Mas nindot if himuon ug "Bed & Breakfast".. adaptive reuse ba, hehe.. daghan naman ta ug museum ui..


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speaking of the war, have you checked out the old japanese foxhole, actually, as I remembered it, it looked more like a machinegun hard point, partially destroyed, along Goodshepherd road on the right side in Banawa?

Was it not a pillbox like the ones that are preserved at certain sites in Singapore and Malaysia?

ho-hum...makes you wonder why despite the Japanese atrocities especially against the majority chinese population in Singapore these structures remained virtually the same as they looked on the day they were built huh.

speaking of the war, have you checked out the old japanese foxhole, actually, as I remembered it, it looked more like a machinegun hard point, partially destroyed, along Goodshepherd road on the right side in Banawa?

Was it not a pillbox like the ones that are preserved at certain sites in Singapore and Malaysia?

ho-hum...makes you wonder why despite the Japanese atrocities especially against the majority chinese population in Singapore these structures remained virtually the same as they looked on the day they were built huh.

@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...



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Hi arnold_carl, can you put me in contact with the guy who has seen those world war II stuff? the provincial museum will be a good home for that..

Indeed, have is correct, Col. Segura wrote two books, one is "Tabunan", the other is "The Koga Papers". Both are exploits of Cebu guerrillas. Copies are in the Cebuano Studies Center. I'd love to get ahold of any remaining copies kay naa koy plano magsuwat about WW II in Cebu...plano plano plano, as usual...but who knows?

@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...



..:..


Hi arnold_carl, can you put me in contact with the guy who has seen those world war II stuff? the provincial museum will be a good home for that..

Indeed, have is correct, Col. Segura wrote two books, one is "Tabunan", the other is "The Koga Papers". Both are exploits of Cebu guerrillas. Copies are in the Cebuano Studies Center. I'd love to get ahold of any remaining copies kay naa koy plano magsuwat about WW II in Cebu...plano plano plano, as usual...but who knows?

@ Archaeologue:

Is that thesis on Cebu street names at the CSC still there? I remember a few years back skimming through it while researching on San Nicolas. Sadly, the CSC didn't have a lot of information on San Nicolas, Cebu City. All they had were old copies of the San Nicolasnon. Are there new documents and books regarding the subject? My research on Sn.Nic is still ongoing and the materials are pretty rare :(

Yes, it is still there. Medyo tattered and well-worn but still alive and kicking! I'm afraid you will have to go to the National Archives and the library of the Agustinos Filipinos de Valladolid (in Spain) to get more about San Nicolas.

@ Archaeologue:

Is that thesis on Cebu street names at the CSC still there? I remember a few years back skimming through it while researching on San Nicolas. Sadly, the CSC didn't have a lot of information on San Nicolas, Cebu City. All they had were old copies of the San Nicolasnon. Are there new documents and books regarding the subject? My research on Sn.Nic is still ongoing and the materials are pretty rare :(

Yes, it is still there. Medyo tattered and well-worn but still alive and kicking! I'm afraid you will have to go to the National Archives and the library of the Agustinos Filipinos de Valladolid (in Spain) to get more about San Nicolas.

city planners back then should have took advantage of the devastation brought upon by the bombing and proceeded with reconfiguring the city's lay-out...

I think the city was one its knees back then...pretty much like the entire country...Worse, the U.S. didn't want to get entangled with rebuilding the entire archipelago so it hastily agreed to let the Philippines go...so only a few millions went to war reparations and rebuilding....

Besides, I don't think we had such city planners left immediately after the war...the best and brightest among that generation had been killed---except the generals and the politicians.

The first and last time an ambitious planning of the city of cebu was ever done was probably the William E. Parsons plan of 1910 (or was it 1907?), which was patterned after the City Beautiful movement espoused by him (and Daniel Burnham during his 6 weeks of stay in Baguio and Manila). I think there is a copy of that plan somewhere in this thread or in a previous one.

Unfortunately, the whole plan rested on the city government buying all lands on both sides of Osmena Boulevard, from the intersection at P. Del Rosario up to the Capitol...

As usual, way kwarta, way nahimo...hanaw ang tanan. Paet ang nahikaplagan.

city planners back then should have took advantage of the devastation brought upon by the bombing and proceeded with reconfiguring the city's lay-out...

I think the city was one its knees back then...pretty much like the entire country...Worse, the U.S. didn't want to get entangled with rebuilding the entire archipelago so it hastily agreed to let the Philippines go...so only a few millions went to war reparations and rebuilding....

Besides, I don't think we had such city planners left immediately after the war...the best and brightest among that generation had been killed---except the generals and the politicians.

The first and last time an ambitious planning of the city of cebu was ever done was probably the William E. Parsons plan of 1910 (or was it 1907?), which was patterned after the City Beautiful movement espoused by him (and Daniel Burnham during his 6 weeks of stay in Baguio and Manila). I think there is a copy of that plan somewhere in this thread or in a previous one.

Unfortunately, the whole plan rested on the city government buying all lands on both sides of Osmena Boulevard, from the intersection at P. Del Rosario up to the Capitol...

As usual, way kwarta, way nahimo...hanaw ang tanan. Paet ang nahikaplagan.

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@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...



Here's the storyline I am proposing for the Provincial Museum, I hope people here can help me locate some of the items for display:

Ground Floor
Lobby

Introductory Exhibit/Orientation Area
To present a documentary backgrounder on the building.
To orient the visitor and present the central purpose and the sub-themes of the exhibit
The Carcel de Cebu was built sometime in the 1850s as a structure of coral stone to house prisoners.

Exhibit Materials:

- Building plans of 1857 and 1896 from the Archivo Historico Nacional
- Photographs of the Carcel, later CPDRC. Spanish-era building plans
- Photos of similar prison design/plan from the National Archives
- Photos of other Spanish-era prisons of similar design (for comparison)
- News items in the past concerning the prison (e.g., escapes, strikes, etc.)


Gallery 1
Pre-Colonial Gallery

To present the geology of Cebu as an island.
To present the archaeology of specific towns of Cebu
To present pre-hispanic Cebuano life



Exhibit Materials:

- Samples of minerals;
- Excavated pottery and related artifacts;
- Cebuano costumes and customs
- Photographs of excavations
- Missionary reports, documents, etc.
- Arte de la Lengua Zebuana

Gallery 2
The Spanish Legacy, 1521-1898
To present Spain’s contributions to the development of Cebu.
To present the Philippine Revolution as it occurred in Cebu

Storyline:
Timeline or chronology of significant events in the Spanish period: Arrival of Magellan in 1521, planting of the Cross and the baptism of the first 800 Cebuanos under Humabon.
Establishment of Villa San Miguel and the creation of the city of Cebu by Legazpi in 1565.
Establishment of the Provincia de Zebu on August 6, 1569
Creation of the towns;
The physical infrastructure of Spanish colonial administration in Cebu
Public works projects in the province.
The revolution erupts in Cebu a little bit late.

Exhibit Materials:

- Portraits of Magellan and Legazpi.
- Model of a galleon ship
- Facsimile of the title page of Pigafetta’s book on the Magellan Voyage - Facsimile of Legazpi’s first report to Spain.
- Spanish period map showing the Visayas
- Town plans of Cebu
- Old photos of select town centers
- Public works plans of Cebu (in the Archivo General de Indias, Archivo Historico Nacional, Archivo Naval, etc.)
- Artifacts of Spanish colonial life; Spanish period documents in the collection of the Cebu Province.

Exhibit Materials:

- Photos and bios of leaders of the local Katipunan, esp. Leon Kilat, Arcadio Maxilom, P. Del Rosario, Gavino Sepulveda, Juan Climaco, etc.;
- Significant events/timeline of the revolution;
- Sabers, bolos, bamboo lancets and other weapons;
- Personal seals of Katipunan generals and officerr
- Uniforms and vests with anting-anting
-Documents and membership certificates/cedulas
- The Noble Collection of seized insurgency papers, records, diaries, etc (U.S. National Archives and Records Admin)
- The Philippines Insrugent Records (U.S. National Archives and Records Admin)



Gallery 3
Peacetime with America: Democracy, War and Liberation, 1899-1946
To present the impact of American colonialism in Cebu
To show the effects of World War II in particular towns of Cebu

Storyline:
The arrival of the Americans, elections and establishment of the provincial council.
School constructions and Public works projects and the establishment of utilities (electricity, railway and transport systems).
Great Cebuano men and women in the American colonial period.
The construction of the Capitol

Storyline:
The Japanese Occupation of Cebu.
The guerrilla units operating in Cebu.
The Koga incident.
The Liberation bombings of the city;
The Talisay landing and the Americal Division’s push to the north and south.


Exhibit Materials:

- Documents and letters
- Newspapers (Bag-ong Kusog, The Freeman, etc).
- Awards
- Medallions
- Photographs
- Memorabilia of Don Sergio, Juan Climaco, Justice Sotero Cabahug etc.
- The construction of the capitol (building plans at DPWH Manila);
- Buhisan Dam and Fuente Osmeña in the campaign to eradicate cholera.
- Local political skirmishes (Rama, Sotto, Cuenco etc.)

- Documents and letters of Sen. V. Rama and Rep. M. Noel
- Newspapers (Visayan Shimbun, The Torch, etc., The Freeman, etc).
- Military uniforms
- War materiel
- Photographs
- Facsimile of the Admiral Koga papers
- Guerilla stamps of Cebu
- Emergency currency/notes
- WWII jeep
- WWII firearms and other war materiel
- WWII field desk
- Japanese and American flags


Gallery 4
Reconstruction and the Drive to Greatness
To show to the visitor the growth and development of the province of Cebu after Liberation.

Storyline:

Notable public works projects of different governors of Cebu;
Nationally and internationally-renowned Cebuanos;
Cebu as top tourist destination in the country


Exhibit Materials:

- Memorabilia/personal effects of famous Cebuanos of the post-ward period (Former governors of Cebu; famous artists, singers etc.).
- Photographs



Gallery 5
The Justice Marcelo Fernan Memorabilia and Library

- The personal and official mementos of Chief Justice Fernan




Gallery 6
Transient Exhibits

For special but limited-time exhibitions

This is actually presented in matrix format.

@Archaeologue

Sir do you happen to know a certain Manuel Segura? He owns an old house daw in Banilad (now a boarding house occupied by a friend) and he's a writer daw of a book. My friend said that when Segura was about to migrate to the U.S., he saw him open his bodega full of World War II stuff (samurai, "caban", etc..etc..).. I tried to ask him if he saw some of those Katipunan stuff that you were looking for pero di na siya ka remember...



Here's the storyline I am proposing for the Provincial Museum, I hope people here can help me locate some of the items for display:

Ground Floor
Lobby

Introductory Exhibit/Orientation Area
To present a documentary backgrounder on the building.
To orient the visitor and present the central purpose and the sub-themes of the exhibit
The Carcel de Cebu was built sometime in the 1850s as a structure of coral stone to house prisoners.

Exhibit Materials:

- Building plans of 1857 and 1896 from the Archivo Historico Nacional
- Photographs of the Carcel, later CPDRC. Spanish-era building plans
- Photos of similar prison design/plan from the National Archives
- Photos of other Spanish-era prisons of similar design (for comparison)
- News items in the past concerning the prison (e.g., escapes, strikes, etc.)


Gallery 1
Pre-Colonial Gallery

To present the geology of Cebu as an island.
To present the archaeology of specific towns of Cebu
To present pre-hispanic Cebuano life



Exhibit Materials:

- Samples of minerals;
- Excavated pottery and related artifacts;
- Cebuano costumes and customs
- Photographs of excavations
- Missionary reports, documents, etc.
- Arte de la Lengua Zebuana

Gallery 2
The Spanish Legacy, 1521-1898
To present Spain’s contributions to the development of Cebu.
To present the Philippine Revolution as it occurred in Cebu

Storyline:
Timeline or chronology of significant events in the Spanish period: Arrival of Magellan in 1521, planting of the Cross and the baptism of the first 800 Cebuanos under Humabon.
Establishment of Villa San Miguel and the creation of the city of Cebu by Legazpi in 1565.
Establishment of the Provincia de Zebu on August 6, 1569
Creation of the towns;
The physical infrastructure of Spanish colonial administration in Cebu
Public works projects in the province.
The revolution erupts in Cebu a little bit late.

Exhibit Materials:

- Portraits of Magellan and Legazpi.
- Model of a galleon ship
- Facsimile of the title page of Pigafetta’s book on the Magellan Voyage - Facsimile of Legazpi’s first report to Spain.
- Spanish period map showing the Visayas
- Town plans of Cebu
- Old photos of select town centers
- Public works plans of Cebu (in the Archivo General de Indias, Archivo Historico Nacional, Archivo Naval, etc.)
- Artifacts of Spanish colonial life; Spanish period documents in the collection of the Cebu Province.

Exhibit Materials:

- Photos and bios of leaders of the local Katipunan, esp. Leon Kilat, Arcadio Maxilom, P. Del Rosario, Gavino Sepulveda, Juan Climaco, etc.;
- Significant events/timeline of the revolution;
- Sabers, bolos, bamboo lancets and other weapons;
- Personal seals of Katipunan generals and officerr
- Uniforms and vests with anting-anting
-Documents and membership certificates/cedulas
- The Noble Collection of seized insurgency papers, records, diaries, etc (U.S. National Archives and Records Admin)
- The Philippines Insrugent Records (U.S. National Archives and Records Admin)



Gallery 3
Peacetime with America: Democracy, War and Liberation, 1899-1946
To present the impact of American colonialism in Cebu
To show the effects of World War II in particular towns of Cebu

Storyline:
The arrival of the Americans, elections and establishment of the provincial council.
School constructions and Public works projects and the establishment of utilities (electricity, railway and transport systems).
Great Cebuano men and women in the American colonial period.
The construction of the Capitol

Storyline:
The Japanese Occupation of Cebu.
The guerrilla units operating in Cebu.
The Koga incident.
The Liberation bombings of the city;
The Talisay landing and the Americal Division’s push to the north and south.


Exhibit Materials:

- Documents and letters
- Newspapers (Bag-ong Kusog, The Freeman, etc).
- Awards
- Medallions
- Photographs
- Memorabilia of Don Sergio, Juan Climaco, Justice Sotero Cabahug etc.
- The construction of the capitol (building plans at DPWH Manila);
- Buhisan Dam and Fuente Osmeña in the campaign to eradicate cholera.
- Local political skirmishes (Rama, Sotto, Cuenco etc.)

- Documents and letters of Sen. V. Rama and Rep. M. Noel
- Newspapers (Visayan Shimbun, The Torch, etc., The Freeman, etc).
- Military uniforms
- War materiel
- Photographs
- Facsimile of the Admiral Koga papers
- Guerilla stamps of Cebu
- Emergency currency/notes
- WWII jeep
- WWII firearms and other war materiel
- WWII field desk
- Japanese and American flags


Gallery 4
Reconstruction and the Drive to Greatness
To show to the visitor the growth and development of the province of Cebu after Liberation.

Storyline:

Notable public works projects of different governors of Cebu;
Nationally and internationally-renowned Cebuanos;
Cebu as top tourist destination in the country


Exhibit Materials:

- Memorabilia/personal effects of famous Cebuanos of the post-ward period (Former governors of Cebu; famous artists, singers etc.).
- Photographs



Gallery 5
The Justice Marcelo Fernan Memorabilia and Library

- The personal and official mementos of Chief Justice Fernan




Gallery 6
Transient Exhibits

For special but limited-time exhibitions

This is actually presented in matrix format.

Here is the design (I hope I'm not boring you all!)

PROPOSED THEMATIC EXHIBIT DESIGN
FOR THE CEBU PROVINCIAL MUSEUM

(First Draft, 12 November 2007)


1. Rationale
The exhibit design stipulated in these pages follow internationally-accepted standard requisites for mounting exhibits. It is prepared for the Ceu Provincial Museum, housed at the former Carcel de Cebu (later the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center). Six rooms have been dedicated to serve as the exhibition galleries. The next sections detail the proposed themes and contents of these galleries.

2. The Exhibition Brief
2.1 Thematic Framework

a. Core Idea

Cebu is the premier province of the Philippines rich in culture and history.

b. Primary Topics

 Cebu in pre-colonial times
 Cebu under three flags: Spanish, American and Japanese
 Cebu, the country’s premier province

c. Secondary Themes

 The wealth of prehistory
 The Spanish legacy
 The Revolution in Cebu
 Pax Armericana
 War and Liberation
 Post-War Growth and Development

2.2. Thematic Structure: Sequential

This proposed exhibit follows the sequential type normally encountered in historical exhibitions. In this context, the sequencing is based on a spatial arrangement that organizes themes along a single axis (i.e., the primacy of Cebu in history and in contemporary Philippine society). The flow to be followed will be unidirectional which is designed in such a way that visitor experience is sequential (moving from Gallery 1 to Gallery 5).

Here is the design (I hope I'm not boring you all!)

PROPOSED THEMATIC EXHIBIT DESIGN
FOR THE CEBU PROVINCIAL MUSEUM

(First Draft, 12 November 2007)


1. Rationale
The exhibit design stipulated in these pages follow internationally-accepted standard requisites for mounting exhibits. It is prepared for the Ceu Provincial Museum, housed at the former Carcel de Cebu (later the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center). Six rooms have been dedicated to serve as the exhibition galleries. The next sections detail the proposed themes and contents of these galleries.

2. The Exhibition Brief
2.1 Thematic Framework

a. Core Idea

Cebu is the premier province of the Philippines rich in culture and history.

b. Primary Topics

 Cebu in pre-colonial times
 Cebu under three flags: Spanish, American and Japanese
 Cebu, the country’s premier province

c. Secondary Themes

 The wealth of prehistory
 The Spanish legacy
 The Revolution in Cebu
 Pax Armericana
 War and Liberation
 Post-War Growth and Development

2.2. Thematic Structure: Sequential

This proposed exhibit follows the sequential type normally encountered in historical exhibitions. In this context, the sequencing is based on a spatial arrangement that organizes themes along a single axis (i.e., the primacy of Cebu in history and in contemporary Philippine society). The flow to be followed will be unidirectional which is designed in such a way that visitor experience is sequential (moving from Gallery 1 to Gallery 5).

Col. Manuel Segura
Office: 253 2748
Residence: 231 2011

Col. Manuel Segura
Office: 253 2748
Residence: 231 2011

This is the result of insomnia and too much coffee. My apologies if the images are not rendered to exact specification as to the positions of protagonists due to the want of period maps of San Nicolas. Mea culpa.

At around 3pm in the afternoon of the 3rd of April, 1898, Spaniards and collaborators retreated to Spanish held parts of the City. Some went to Fort San Pedro, others, to the Seminario de San Carlos, Colegio dela Inmaculada Concepcion while others went to business establishments owned by foreigners.

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The two groups, Barangays 1 and 2, still had to meet at the designated place near the Guadalupe river.

Other katipuneros soon joined Kilat on the way to their assembly point: the Padillas (Gavino, Especioso,and Gregorio), Estanislao Sarion, Doroteo Bacayo, Gregorio Abellana, Leon Cabase, Agustin Ylaya, Pascual Ybuna, the Cabarrubias (Catalino and Miguel), the Calinawans (Brigido and Severo), Lucas Abellana, and others.

At corner of Rosalia (now Carlock) and Mindanao (now B. Aranas) streets, the group was joined by Isabelo Zabate, Julian and Teodoro Villona, Eulogio and Eleuterio Abellana, Anacleto and Francisco Cavan, and some others. The group was swelling.

In the meantime, Barangay 1 under Luis Flores passed by Catalona St. towards Guadalupe road (now V. Rama ave.) until both Barangays would finally meet under ther mango trees near the San Nicolas cemetery in Calamba.

At this point, the two group leaders agreed on their respective plans of action against the Spaniards. Final instructions were given. Barangay 1 under Flores was to assault San Pedro and to free all its prisoners, while Barangay 2 would attack the Spanish troops in city and San Nicolas. Eugenio Gines would gather katipuneros from the northern parts of the city and join the bigger group.

Another group lead by Machacon was also gathered at Paulino Solon's intusan (sugar mill) in Sambag (near the present Urgello). They had no guns, but had bolos, spears and knives. They were in high spirits, confident that the habak and anting-anting given by Leon Kilat would protect them from the Spanish guns. They crossed the Guadalupe river and started marching eastward towards San Nicolas poblacion, following the present V. Rama Ave. They would also join the bigger group massed at the cemetery. Their number had now swelled to an estimated 2,500.

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Loyalist troops upon orders of Gen. Montero arrived at bridge of the southern end of Colon (Puente de la Revoluccion), then divided itself into two groups. The first group led by Capt. Monfort and Sgt. Cueto followed Tres de Abril St. (then called General Weyler St.), while the second group under Capt. Gutierrez and Sgt. Pedro Royo followed El Pardo (now C. Padilla) for a short distance, then turned right following V. Rama Ave., going towards the cemetery in Calamba.

The two columns of loyalist troops converged at the crossing of Tres de Abril and V. Rama Ave., then stopped to ascertain the whereabouts of a crowd reported to have gathered near the Calamba cemetery.

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Meanwhile, Leon Kilat was informed that soldiers had arrived near Pahina bridge. He met Justo Kabajar and his men at the northwestern end of the JM Basa st. which intersects V. Rama Ave., hiding behind trees and other structures. They were preparing to ambush the approaching loyalist soldiers marching westwards along Guadalupe road (now V. Rama Ave.). Kabajar did not know that another column of soldiers was at that time also marching along Tres de Abril St.

Kilat ordered Kabajar not to attack prematurely, and instead wait for other katipuneros coming from the cemetery. He also instructed the latter to surround soldiers when attacking.


(To be continued)

This is the result of insomnia and too much coffee. My apologies if the images are not rendered to exact specification as to the positions of protagonists due to the want of period maps of San Nicolas. Mea culpa.

At around 3pm in the afternoon of the 3rd of April, 1898, Spaniards and collaborators retreated to Spanish held parts of the City. Some went to Fort San Pedro, others, to the Seminario de San Carlos, Colegio dela Inmaculada Concepcion while others went to business establishments owned by foreigners.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image1.jpg

The two groups, Barangays 1 and 2, still had to meet at the designated place near the Guadalupe river.

Other katipuneros soon joined Kilat on the way to their assembly point: the Padillas (Gavino, Especioso,and Gregorio), Estanislao Sarion, Doroteo Bacayo, Gregorio Abellana, Leon Cabase, Agustin Ylaya, Pascual Ybuna, the Cabarrubias (Catalino and Miguel), the Calinawans (Brigido and Severo), Lucas Abellana, and others.

At corner of Rosalia (now Carlock) and Mindanao (now B. Aranas) streets, the group was joined by Isabelo Zabate, Julian and Teodoro Villona, Eulogio and Eleuterio Abellana, Anacleto and Francisco Cavan, and some others. The group was swelling.

In the meantime, Barangay 1 under Luis Flores passed by Catalona St. towards Guadalupe road (now V. Rama ave.) until both Barangays would finally meet under ther mango trees near the San Nicolas cemetery in Calamba.

At this point, the two group leaders agreed on their respective plans of action against the Spaniards. Final instructions were given. Barangay 1 under Flores was to assault San Pedro and to free all its prisoners, while Barangay 2 would attack the Spanish troops in city and San Nicolas. Eugenio Gines would gather katipuneros from the northern parts of the city and join the bigger group.

Another group lead by Machacon was also gathered at Paulino Solon's intusan (sugar mill) in Sambag (near the present Urgello). They had no guns, but had bolos, spears and knives. They were in high spirits, confident that the habak and anting-anting given by Leon Kilat would protect them from the Spanish guns. They crossed the Guadalupe river and started marching eastward towards San Nicolas poblacion, following the present V. Rama Ave. They would also join the bigger group massed at the cemetery. Their number had now swelled to an estimated 2,500.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image2.jpg

Loyalist troops upon orders of Gen. Montero arrived at bridge of the southern end of Colon (Puente de la Revoluccion), then divided itself into two groups. The first group led by Capt. Monfort and Sgt. Cueto followed Tres de Abril St. (then called General Weyler St.), while the second group under Capt. Gutierrez and Sgt. Pedro Royo followed El Pardo (now C. Padilla) for a short distance, then turned right following V. Rama Ave., going towards the cemetery in Calamba.

The two columns of loyalist troops converged at the crossing of Tres de Abril and V. Rama Ave., then stopped to ascertain the whereabouts of a crowd reported to have gathered near the Calamba cemetery.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image3.jpg

Meanwhile, Leon Kilat was informed that soldiers had arrived near Pahina bridge. He met Justo Kabajar and his men at the northwestern end of the JM Basa st. which intersects V. Rama Ave., hiding behind trees and other structures. They were preparing to ambush the approaching loyalist soldiers marching westwards along Guadalupe road (now V. Rama Ave.). Kabajar did not know that another column of soldiers was at that time also marching along Tres de Abril St.

Kilat ordered Kabajar not to attack prematurely, and instead wait for other katipuneros coming from the cemetery. He also instructed the latter to surround soldiers when attacking.


(To be continued)

Yes, it is still there. Medyo tattered and well-worn but still alive and kicking! I'm afraid you will have to go to the National Archives and the library of the Agustinos Filipinos de Valladolid (in Spain) to get more about San Nicolas.

Really? I've gotta visit USC when my schedule permits, I hope it would be real soon. I'll just have to take photos of the pages.

Hmmm maybe in two years I'll go visit spain hehe if naay maka-sponsor :lol:

Yes, it is still there. Medyo tattered and well-worn but still alive and kicking! I'm afraid you will have to go to the National Archives and the library of the Agustinos Filipinos de Valladolid (in Spain) to get more about San Nicolas.

Really? I've gotta visit USC when my schedule permits, I hope it would be real soon. I'll just have to take photos of the pages.

Hmmm maybe in two years I'll go visit spain hehe if naay maka-sponsor :lol:

lingawa harveharve con mainsomnia morecreate kag period battles diay, in that case we should pump more caffeine in to you, hehe....seriously though thanks for a very educational post

lingawa harveharve con mainsomnia morecreate kag period battles diay, in that case we should pump more caffeine in to you, hehe....seriously though thanks for a very educational post

Col. Manuel Segura
Office: 253 2748
Residence: 231 2011

harve,
as usual you have been most helpful...i am meeting Col. Segura tomorrow morning at his home. his home phone number is actually 261 2011...he still has a few copies of The Koga Papers but not Tabunan.

thanks for the help.

p.s. i had no luck on the katipunan memorabilia of dr. abella. his wife has no recollection of whether such a collection ever existed.

i still need to talk to the Brgy. chair of Labangon, though.

Thanks!

Col. Manuel Segura
Office: 253 2748
Residence: 231 2011

harve,
as usual you have been most helpful...i am meeting Col. Segura tomorrow morning at his home. his home phone number is actually 261 2011...he still has a few copies of The Koga Papers but not Tabunan.

thanks for the help.

p.s. i had no luck on the katipunan memorabilia of dr. abella. his wife has no recollection of whether such a collection ever existed.

i still need to talk to the Brgy. chair of Labangon, though.

Thanks!

Here is the design (I hope I'm not boring you all!)

PROPOSED THEMATIC EXHIBIT DESIGN
FOR THE CEBU PROVINCIAL MUSEUM

(First Draft, 12 November 2007)


1. Rationale
The exhibit design stipulated in these pages follow internationally-accepted standard requisites for mounting exhibits. It is prepared for the Ceu Provincial Museum, housed at the former Carcel de Cebu (later the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center). Six rooms have been dedicated to serve as the exhibition galleries. The next sections detail the proposed themes and contents of these galleries.

2. The Exhibition Brief
2.1 Thematic Framework

a. Core Idea

Cebu is the premier province of the Philippines rich in culture and history.

b. Primary Topics

 Cebu in pre-colonial times
 Cebu under three flags: Spanish, American and Japanese
 Cebu, the country’s premier province

c. Secondary Themes

 The wealth of prehistory
 The Spanish legacy
 The Revolution in Cebu
 Pax Armericana
 War and Liberation
 Post-War Growth and Development

2.2. Thematic Structure: Sequential

This proposed exhibit follows the sequential type normally encountered in historical exhibitions. In this context, the sequencing is based on a spatial arrangement that organizes themes along a single axis (i.e., the primacy of Cebu in history and in contemporary Philippine society). The flow to be followed will be unidirectional which is designed in such a way that visitor experience is sequential (moving from Gallery 1 to Gallery 5).

Although it will not fit into the thematic flow, the natural history of Cebu is also of prime importance and may help educate the people regarding the environment, given that the documents showed that Cebu was already heavily deforested during the last years of Spanish era. Medyo mahirap since in the National Museum, one building will be devoted to this section. But Cebu is one of the center of conservation, since the Cebu flowerpecker was rediscovered during the last decade, together with others that are found only in Cebu. The Cebu cinnamon was being propagated. Other exciting news for Cebu included an extinct "Cebu" tamaraw was also discovered in a collection in the US. . . .

Here is the design (I hope I'm not boring you all!)

PROPOSED THEMATIC EXHIBIT DESIGN
FOR THE CEBU PROVINCIAL MUSEUM

(First Draft, 12 November 2007)


1. Rationale
The exhibit design stipulated in these pages follow internationally-accepted standard requisites for mounting exhibits. It is prepared for the Ceu Provincial Museum, housed at the former Carcel de Cebu (later the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center). Six rooms have been dedicated to serve as the exhibition galleries. The next sections detail the proposed themes and contents of these galleries.

2. The Exhibition Brief
2.1 Thematic Framework

a. Core Idea

Cebu is the premier province of the Philippines rich in culture and history.

b. Primary Topics

 Cebu in pre-colonial times
 Cebu under three flags: Spanish, American and Japanese
 Cebu, the country’s premier province

c. Secondary Themes

 The wealth of prehistory
 The Spanish legacy
 The Revolution in Cebu
 Pax Armericana
 War and Liberation
 Post-War Growth and Development

2.2. Thematic Structure: Sequential

This proposed exhibit follows the sequential type normally encountered in historical exhibitions. In this context, the sequencing is based on a spatial arrangement that organizes themes along a single axis (i.e., the primacy of Cebu in history and in contemporary Philippine society). The flow to be followed will be unidirectional which is designed in such a way that visitor experience is sequential (moving from Gallery 1 to Gallery 5).

Although it will not fit into the thematic flow, the natural history of Cebu is also of prime importance and may help educate the people regarding the environment, given that the documents showed that Cebu was already heavily deforested during the last years of Spanish era. Medyo mahirap since in the National Museum, one building will be devoted to this section. But Cebu is one of the center of conservation, since the Cebu flowerpecker was rediscovered during the last decade, together with others that are found only in Cebu. The Cebu cinnamon was being propagated. Other exciting news for Cebu included an extinct "Cebu" tamaraw was also discovered in a collection in the US. . . .

Although it will not fit into the thematic flow, the natural history of Cebu is also of prime importance and may help educate the people regarding the environment, given that the documents showed that Cebu was already heavily deforested during the last years of Spanish era. Medyo mahirap since in the National Museum, one building will be devoted to this section. But Cebu is one of the center of conservation, since the Cebu flowerpecker was rediscovered during the last decade, together with others that are found only in Cebu. The Cebu cinnamon was being propagated. Other exciting news for Cebu included an extinct "Cebu" tamaraw was also discovered in a collection in the US. . . .

Thanks for the suggestion. sige, i will try to see what can be done to include a section like this in Gallery 1. The best that will happen will most probably be the use of text panels with graphics showing outstanding and important species endemic to Cebu or found only in Cebu...

Unfortunately, each of the galleries measures only about 30 sq m...A standard classroom at USC is much, much bigger. Worse, the filling and re-filling of the floor has raised it in such a way that the ceiling on the gorund floor is now just about 8 feet from the floor,---or even less.

Only the old admin building of the Carcel, the one immediately facing MJ Cuenco, has been dedicated to serve as the museum. All the rest behind it are now occupied by DepEd Cebu Province.

I can't even put a World War II tank (assuming I can get the one in Medellin) in one gallery as it would surely eat up all the space! paet...
but, hey, this is a good start.

thanks for the advise. timely and very important too!

Although it will not fit into the thematic flow, the natural history of Cebu is also of prime importance and may help educate the people regarding the environment, given that the documents showed that Cebu was already heavily deforested during the last years of Spanish era. Medyo mahirap since in the National Museum, one building will be devoted to this section. But Cebu is one of the center of conservation, since the Cebu flowerpecker was rediscovered during the last decade, together with others that are found only in Cebu. The Cebu cinnamon was being propagated. Other exciting news for Cebu included an extinct "Cebu" tamaraw was also discovered in a collection in the US. . . .

Thanks for the suggestion. sige, i will try to see what can be done to include a section like this in Gallery 1. The best that will happen will most probably be the use of text panels with graphics showing outstanding and important species endemic to Cebu or found only in Cebu...

Unfortunately, each of the galleries measures only about 30 sq m...A standard classroom at USC is much, much bigger. Worse, the filling and re-filling of the floor has raised it in such a way that the ceiling on the gorund floor is now just about 8 feet from the floor,---or even less.

Only the old admin building of the Carcel, the one immediately facing MJ Cuenco, has been dedicated to serve as the museum. All the rest behind it are now occupied by DepEd Cebu Province.

I can't even put a World War II tank (assuming I can get the one in Medellin) in one gallery as it would surely eat up all the space! paet...
but, hey, this is a good start.

thanks for the advise. timely and very important too!

harve,
as usual you have been most helpful...i am meeting Col. Segura tomorrow morning at his home. his home phone number is actually 261 2011...he still has a few copies of The Koga Papers but not Tabunan.

thanks for the help.

p.s. i had no luck on the katipunan memorabilia of dr. abella. his wife has no recollection of whether such a collection ever existed.

i still need to talk to the Brgy. chair of Labangon, though.

Thanks!


Aw! hehe 261 diay! 231 man diay akong na-post paet :nuts: my bad :nuts: glad to be of help :banana:

ask noy dodo (cap't. felix) for boy quezon's number, my dad lost his number man gud. para dili makalitan si cap just say si harve anak ni atty. honorato ang nag-refer hehe :)

harve,
as usual you have been most helpful...i am meeting Col. Segura tomorrow morning at his home. his home phone number is actually 261 2011...he still has a few copies of The Koga Papers but not Tabunan.

thanks for the help.

p.s. i had no luck on the katipunan memorabilia of dr. abella. his wife has no recollection of whether such a collection ever existed.

i still need to talk to the Brgy. chair of Labangon, though.

Thanks!


Aw! hehe 261 diay! 231 man diay akong na-post paet :nuts: my bad :nuts: glad to be of help :banana:

ask noy dodo (cap't. felix) for boy quezon's number, my dad lost his number man gud. para dili makalitan si cap just say si harve anak ni atty. honorato ang nag-refer hehe :)

Aw! hehe 261 diay! 231 man diay akong na-post paet :nuts: my bad :nuts: glad to be of help :banana:

ask noy dodo (cap't. felix) for boy quezon's number, my dad lost his number man gud. para dili makalitan si cap just say si harve anak ni atty. honorato ang nag-refer hehe :)

thanks harve...

by the way, harve, Arnold_Carl, Bernie Mack, Ang Bantayanon, Estan, Pinoy_ako, jrevalde, Animo, etc. etc. this heritage thread and the whole skyscrapercity site is the subject of my CDN column which comes out today, thursday...

i hope i did justice to the tedious task of promoting heritage...

Aw! hehe 261 diay! 231 man diay akong na-post paet :nuts: my bad :nuts: glad to be of help :banana:

ask noy dodo (cap't. felix) for boy quezon's number, my dad lost his number man gud. para dili makalitan si cap just say si harve anak ni atty. honorato ang nag-refer hehe :)

thanks harve...

by the way, harve, Arnold_Carl, Bernie Mack, Ang Bantayanon, Estan, Pinoy_ako, jrevalde, Animo, etc. etc. this heritage thread and the whole skyscrapercity site is the subject of my CDN column which comes out today, thursday...

i hope i did justice to the tedious task of promoting heritage...

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Knowing the movement of the enemy, Leon Kilat went in haste towards the main body of the katipuneros, avoiding Guadalupe road as he moved towards the Calamba cemetery where the huge group of katipuneros was concentrated. He did not have to walk far when he met them. Immediately, he assumed command, leading them to the location of the enemy troops.

At intersection of V. Rama and Tres de Abril st. where the enemy troops had stopped, Kilat deployed his men. The left wing of katipuneros was placed under Eugenio Gines and Francisco Llamas, to be assisted by Arsenio Cabreros, Rufo Abella, Pio Lopez and Dionisio Abellar. The center column, commanded by Kilat himself and assisted by Alejo Miñoza, took position at the intersection itself.

The majority of the katipuneros were massed here, using as cover the stone corner of the house of Nicolas ("Lasay") and Antonio Lopez. The distance between the katipuneros and the loyalist troops were now only 15 meters.

Loyalist soldiers saw them, noting their lack of arms. Sgt. Pedro Royo shouted: "You stupid people. What do you want? Return to your homes. Go away before you are hit by the bullets and killed."
The katipuneros answered back, taunting them with their own challenges. Evidently, they were not afraid of the Spaniards' rifles. So the loyalist troops started firing. At the same time, Kilat told his men to lie flat on the ground, knowing that the rifles of the enemy would be good for only five shots. After that, they have to load their rifles again. Those brief seconds would give them enough time to rise up and swing their bladed weapons.

After five shots from the Spanish rifles, Kilat personally led his men to a hand-to-hand skirmish, resulting in the beheading of Sgt. Cueto by his kris. Another Cazador, trying to run away, also met his death after his shoulder was sliced from his body by Kilat.

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In due time, the soldiers realized that they were no match for the bolos of the katipuneros. The retreated towards the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge) with the katipuneros close in pursuit. The loyalists' second column shooting effectively managed to protect the retreating soldiers. Then both Spanish columns retreated beyond the bridge, taking up another position with their rifles.

While this battle was going on, Baragay 1 under Luis Flores heard the gunshots and this led to join him with Barangay 2, thus failing to reach his objective which was the fort. It would have been possible for him to take the fort easily as it was defended by very few soldiers.

Seeing the number of dead companions, the voluntarios locales at the San Nicolas Tribunal retreated towards the direction of Calamba st. leading to Ermita but were pursued by a group of rebels led by Justo Cabajar, Miñoza, Gines, Rufo Abella and others. Near this place, Cabajar shot one of them with a rifle earlier confiscated, forcing others to escape towards the city. Kabajar's group brought along five newly captured rifles.

At the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge), the confrontation and exchange of fire between the two groups continued for some minutes. But the Spaniards, sensing that they would be overpowered, withdrew to Fort San Pedro to make their last stand against the victorious katipuneros.

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Knowing the movement of the enemy, Leon Kilat went in haste towards the main body of the katipuneros, avoiding Guadalupe road as he moved towards the Calamba cemetery where the huge group of katipuneros was concentrated. He did not have to walk far when he met them. Immediately, he assumed command, leading them to the location of the enemy troops.

At intersection of V. Rama and Tres de Abril st. where the enemy troops had stopped, Kilat deployed his men. The left wing of katipuneros was placed under Eugenio Gines and Francisco Llamas, to be assisted by Arsenio Cabreros, Rufo Abella, Pio Lopez and Dionisio Abellar. The center column, commanded by Kilat himself and assisted by Alejo Miñoza, took position at the intersection itself.

The majority of the katipuneros were massed here, using as cover the stone corner of the house of Nicolas ("Lasay") and Antonio Lopez. The distance between the katipuneros and the loyalist troops were now only 15 meters.

Loyalist soldiers saw them, noting their lack of arms. Sgt. Pedro Royo shouted: "You stupid people. What do you want? Return to your homes. Go away before you are hit by the bullets and killed."
The katipuneros answered back, taunting them with their own challenges. Evidently, they were not afraid of the Spaniards' rifles. So the loyalist troops started firing. At the same time, Kilat told his men to lie flat on the ground, knowing that the rifles of the enemy would be good for only five shots. After that, they have to load their rifles again. Those brief seconds would give them enough time to rise up and swing their bladed weapons.

After five shots from the Spanish rifles, Kilat personally led his men to a hand-to-hand skirmish, resulting in the beheading of Sgt. Cueto by his kris. Another Cazador, trying to run away, also met his death after his shoulder was sliced from his body by Kilat.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image5-1.jpg
In due time, the soldiers realized that they were no match for the bolos of the katipuneros. The retreated towards the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge) with the katipuneros close in pursuit. The loyalists' second column shooting effectively managed to protect the retreating soldiers. Then both Spanish columns retreated beyond the bridge, taking up another position with their rifles.

While this battle was going on, Baragay 1 under Luis Flores heard the gunshots and this led to join him with Barangay 2, thus failing to reach his objective which was the fort. It would have been possible for him to take the fort easily as it was defended by very few soldiers.

Seeing the number of dead companions, the voluntarios locales at the San Nicolas Tribunal retreated towards the direction of Calamba st. leading to Ermita but were pursued by a group of rebels led by Justo Cabajar, Miñoza, Gines, Rufo Abella and others. Near this place, Cabajar shot one of them with a rifle earlier confiscated, forcing others to escape towards the city. Kabajar's group brought along five newly captured rifles.

At the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge), the confrontation and exchange of fire between the two groups continued for some minutes. But the Spaniards, sensing that they would be overpowered, withdrew to Fort San Pedro to make their last stand against the victorious katipuneros.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image6.jpg

The troops of Gen. Montero were fleeing for their lives to Fort San Pedro before the sharp bolos of the katipuneros under the leadership of Leon Kilat. With the newly seized rifles from the fleeing Spaniards, they gained new weapons and renewed confidence to win the war.
By 5:00 in the afternoon of April 3, 1898, Capt. Monfort who held his ground near the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge) had no choice but to order his men to the fort. Just to show that they were not yet beaten, loyalist soldiers shouted while on their way:"Viva España!" Not to be outdone, the katipuneros shouted back:"Viva katipunan! Viva Filipinas!"

At the fort, Montero was mad. He ordered all government military personnel to leave their stations outside to come to the fort. Only those areas which had munitions and food, like the San Agustin church and the cathedral, were not deserted totally.

Many Spaniards who did not heed Montero's order were executed by the katipuneros. One was a Spaniard Enrique Carratala from Dulho, San Nicolas. A group caught up with him, then killed him.

Outside the fort, the katipuneros had a heyday. On the suggestion of Severo Padilla, telegraph lines were cut. These were the city's connection to Balamban, then across the sea to Escalante in Negros Oriental. From escalante, the lines continued to Iloilo and to Manila. Reinforcements could come from these two places with the lines open.

Katipuneros led by Llamas, Abellar and Hernandez freed all prisoners at the carcel without any objection from the chief warden Telesforo Salguero, who was himself a katipunero. Then they proceeded to Carreta where the Hospital de Lazarinos was located and freed the lepers.

In the meantime, Leon Kilat ordered some of his men led by Elpedio Rama and Gregorio Padilla to buy medicines for their wounded from Botica Antigua. The drugstore owner Andres Krapenbauer allowed them to enter the premises upon knowing that their leader, Leon Kilat, once worked for him. He gave the medicines for free, saying it was his contribution to the movement. The wounded were treated in the residence of Jacinto Paca¤a at Labangon which was now converted into the general headquarters of the katipunan and infirmary. Among the wounded were Gines and Cabreros.

That night, the katipuneros of Talisay, led by the Aliño brothers, attacked the guardia civil detachment, killing the Spniards, the administrator, his wife and children. The parish priest Fr. Valerio Rodrigo (Fr. Pedro Medina in another account) managed to escape on a banca to Cebu and sought refuge at the fort.
The rebels also captured the cartilla teacher, Maestro Hilario Gandiongco. But he was subsequently released upon learning that he was not known to mistreat Filipinos.

In Pardo, the parish priest Fr. Tomas Jimenes was murdered by the rebels of Tabunok. The cartilla teacher maestro Mariano Crisologo was taken prisoner.

At the fort that night, the Spaniards still felt they could defend it indefinitely. Their confidence was bolstered with the presence of two gunboats, Maria Cristina and Paragua, which bombarded areas in San Nicolas, burning some houses there. The latter arrived from Iligan that afternoon.

The Spaniards reasoned that the two could guard the two sides facing the sea, leaving only one side to be defended by those at the fort. However, during a conferece with his officers, Montero admitted that a massive attack by the insurrectos could overwhelm them since they were vastly outnumbered. They had to ask for reinforcement.

At around 10:00 pm, Montero sent out a patrol to verify if the katipuneros were still in the city. They were met by a group of katipuneros at at the corner of Escolta and Lutao st. (now M.C. Briones), who were only too eager to fight. The soldiers beat a hasty retreat to the fort.

(To be continued...)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/image6.jpg

The troops of Gen. Montero were fleeing for their lives to Fort San Pedro before the sharp bolos of the katipuneros under the leadership of Leon Kilat. With the newly seized rifles from the fleeing Spaniards, they gained new weapons and renewed confidence to win the war.
By 5:00 in the afternoon of April 3, 1898, Capt. Monfort who held his ground near the Puente de la Revolucion (Colon bridge) had no choice but to order his men to the fort. Just to show that they were not yet beaten, loyalist soldiers shouted while on their way:"Viva España!" Not to be outdone, the katipuneros shouted back:"Viva katipunan! Viva Filipinas!"

At the fort, Montero was mad. He ordered all government military personnel to leave their stations outside to come to the fort. Only those areas which had munitions and food, like the San Agustin church and the cathedral, were not deserted totally.

Many Spaniards who did not heed Montero's order were executed by the katipuneros. One was a Spaniard Enrique Carratala from Dulho, San Nicolas. A group caught up with him, then killed him.

Outside the fort, the katipuneros had a heyday. On the suggestion of Severo Padilla, telegraph lines were cut. These were the city's connection to Balamban, then across the sea to Escalante in Negros Oriental. From escalante, the lines continued to Iloilo and to Manila. Reinforcements could come from these two places with the lines open.

Katipuneros led by Llamas, Abellar and Hernandez freed all prisoners at the carcel without any objection from the chief warden Telesforo Salguero, who was himself a katipunero. Then they proceeded to Carreta where the Hospital de Lazarinos was located and freed the lepers.

In the meantime, Leon Kilat ordered some of his men led by Elpedio Rama and Gregorio Padilla to buy medicines for their wounded from Botica Antigua. The drugstore owner Andres Krapenbauer allowed them to enter the premises upon knowing that their leader, Leon Kilat, once worked for him. He gave the medicines for free, saying it was his contribution to the movement. The wounded were treated in the residence of Jacinto Paca¤a at Labangon which was now converted into the general headquarters of the katipunan and infirmary. Among the wounded were Gines and Cabreros.

That night, the katipuneros of Talisay, led by the Aliño brothers, attacked the guardia civil detachment, killing the Spniards, the administrator, his wife and children. The parish priest Fr. Valerio Rodrigo (Fr. Pedro Medina in another account) managed to escape on a banca to Cebu and sought refuge at the fort.
The rebels also captured the cartilla teacher, Maestro Hilario Gandiongco. But he was subsequently released upon learning that he was not known to mistreat Filipinos.

In Pardo, the parish priest Fr. Tomas Jimenes was murdered by the rebels of Tabunok. The cartilla teacher maestro Mariano Crisologo was taken prisoner.

At the fort that night, the Spaniards still felt they could defend it indefinitely. Their confidence was bolstered with the presence of two gunboats, Maria Cristina and Paragua, which bombarded areas in San Nicolas, burning some houses there. The latter arrived from Iligan that afternoon.

The Spaniards reasoned that the two could guard the two sides facing the sea, leaving only one side to be defended by those at the fort. However, during a conferece with his officers, Montero admitted that a massive attack by the insurrectos could overwhelm them since they were vastly outnumbered. They had to ask for reinforcement.

At around 10:00 pm, Montero sent out a patrol to verify if the katipuneros were still in the city. They were met by a group of katipuneros at at the corner of Escolta and Lutao st. (now M.C. Briones), who were only too eager to fight. The soldiers beat a hasty retreat to the fort.

(To be continued...)

lingawa harveharve con mainsomnia morecreate kag period battles diay, in that case we should pump more caffeine in to you, hehe....seriously though thanks for a very educational post


If only I have the time makabuhat kog computer game ala Sid Meier's Civil War! hehe :banana: dili jud detailed kaayo, maybe next time i'll generate accurate troop movements on actual maps ala war plans... in time :lol:

lingawa harveharve con mainsomnia morecreate kag period battles diay, in that case we should pump more caffeine in to you, hehe....seriously though thanks for a very educational post


If only I have the time makabuhat kog computer game ala Sid Meier's Civil War! hehe :banana: dili jud detailed kaayo, maybe next time i'll generate accurate troop movements on actual maps ala war plans... in time :lol:

@ Arnold:

I'm not sure as regards to the veracity of this anecdotal report I gathered from a friend of mine who works for a movie studio but you can actually view the interior of the Villalon mansion if you can grab a copy of Shake, Rattle and Roll II or IV, as the "haunted" house they used during the shooting of the film was the Villalon mansion. My memory is rather blurry :bash: but I think it really was the Villalon Mansion. I can never forget that widow's tower thinggie on top of the house. It looks the same, if memory serves.

@ Arnold:

I'm not sure as regards to the veracity of this anecdotal report I gathered from a friend of mine who works for a movie studio but you can actually view the interior of the Villalon mansion if you can grab a copy of Shake, Rattle and Roll II or IV, as the "haunted" house they used during the shooting of the film was the Villalon mansion. My memory is rather blurry :bash: but I think it really was the Villalon Mansion. I can never forget that widow's tower thinggie on top of the house. It looks the same, if memory serves.

@Harvey

Harvey, when is the bar? Do you still hang-out in BOs Coffee?

@Harvey

Harvey, when is the bar? Do you still hang-out in BOs Coffee?

@ Arnold:

This coming September hehe a few more months to go, yup, I still hang out there usually around 2pm-4pm but in the evenings around 10ish i'm usually at Starbucks Paseo Arcenas, which is nearer to my place.

@ Arnold:

This coming September hehe a few more months to go, yup, I still hang out there usually around 2pm-4pm but in the evenings around 10ish i'm usually at Starbucks Paseo Arcenas, which is nearer to my place.

Save perhaps for the railway which is now the N.Bacalso Avenue (formerly Rizal Ave.) Cebu City roads looked pretty much as it did back in 1898 during the April 3rd Revolution. The following photos were taken from an index map cadastral survey of the City of Cebu between 1910 and 1912. Back then, there were no barangays, only barrios and districts.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0759.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0766.jpg
The City of Cebu.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0757.jpg
Midtown and Downtown Cebu City, Take note that Osmena Blvd is yet to be constructed. The area where the Cebu Puericulture is used to be part of the Southern Islands Hospital grounds. The area marked as High School would be roughly where the Abellana National highschool (Cebu High School) and the Cebu Normal University (Cebu Normal College) are situated today. The area marked as "Park" is a part of the Fuente Osmena, Fuente Police Station, New Larsian, and the general environ in front of the Vicente Sotto hospital. You can clearly see Mango Ave. traverse that swath of land.


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0764.jpg
Barrio Labangon. Take note of the roads. The roads which were in existence in 1910 also existed in 1898. You can clearly see Tres de Abril (Weyler) and Salvador Sts.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0767.jpg
District of San Nicolas and the surrounding barangays. A hotbed of Katipunan activities during the late 1800s.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0769.jpg
Another view of the City of Cebu and the immediate barrios surrounding it.

Save perhaps for the railway which is now the N.Bacalso Avenue (formerly Rizal Ave.) Cebu City roads looked pretty much as it did back in 1898 during the April 3rd Revolution. The following photos were taken from an index map cadastral survey of the City of Cebu between 1910 and 1912. Back then, there were no barangays, only barrios and districts.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0759.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0766.jpg
The City of Cebu.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0757.jpg
Midtown and Downtown Cebu City, Take note that Osmena Blvd is yet to be constructed. The area where the Cebu Puericulture is used to be part of the Southern Islands Hospital grounds. The area marked as High School would be roughly where the Abellana National highschool (Cebu High School) and the Cebu Normal University (Cebu Normal College) are situated today. The area marked as "Park" is a part of the Fuente Osmena, Fuente Police Station, New Larsian, and the general environ in front of the Vicente Sotto hospital. You can clearly see Mango Ave. traverse that swath of land.


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0764.jpg
Barrio Labangon. Take note of the roads. The roads which were in existence in 1910 also existed in 1898. You can clearly see Tres de Abril (Weyler) and Salvador Sts.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0767.jpg
District of San Nicolas and the surrounding barangays. A hotbed of Katipunan activities during the late 1800s.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0769.jpg
Another view of the City of Cebu and the immediate barrios surrounding it.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0769.jpg

It's not too farfatched to imagine that when the cadastral surveys were on-going, Parsons (and perhaps with his team) were commissioned to draw up a grand plan to beautify the City with public parks and a grand avenue considering that the land between the present Fuente Osmena and Sanciangko were devoid of any major roads. Back then, this swath of land was mainly farmland since most of the inhabitants of the city either lived in San Nicolas or in barrios outlying the old city.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cebu_parsons.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0769.jpg

It's not too farfatched to imagine that when the cadastral surveys were on-going, Parsons (and perhaps with his team) were commissioned to draw up a grand plan to beautify the City with public parks and a grand avenue considering that the land between the present Fuente Osmena and Sanciangko were devoid of any major roads. Back then, this swath of land was mainly farmland since most of the inhabitants of the city either lived in San Nicolas or in barrios outlying the old city.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cebu_parsons.jpg

PAST FORWARD
An unlikely online forum for Cebuano heritage

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 02:56pm (Mla time) 11/29/2007

Ironic as it may look, an Internet forum dedicated to paying homage to the design of ultra-modern cities and megastructures is also home to a group of Filipino heritage advocates and enthusiasts working to preserve and promote Cebu’s and the rest of the country’s tangible and intangible remnants of times long gone.

Skyscarpercity.com, a web-based portal originally dedicated to architects, structural engineers and urban planners, actually includes just about anyone who wants to say or show something about his or her hometown. With 144,039 members, the site has about 306,581 topics or “threads,” which currently contain a total of 12,593,825 posts or online exchanges between members.

Among the membership is a dedicated bunch (and a few insomniacs) who tinker away at their computers in the wee hours of the night to post photos, information and trivia about some heritage site, vanishing trade or dying language somewhere in the Philippines.

There are two ways for the curious to check out these Philippine heritage-related forums at this portal.

One way is to go through the long and tedious process of clicking through hundreds of thousands of titled of threads after opening the site (www.skyscrapercity.com) until one reaches the Photography, Heritage, and Architecture, which is under the sub-forum “Around the Philippines.”

The other way is to go the shorter route by simply typing the words “Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 4” on Google, and clicking on the first result, which immediately brings you to the current page (page 45 or 46). Click on it and you are now at the last page of a highly informative forum spiced up with period photos I am sure many have never seen before. One can also surf through all the previous pages of this thread (the clickable page numbers are somewhere on the top-right hand corner of your computer screen).

Started by a heritage-savvy member registered as “Arnod_Carl,” this forum has been on-line since September 2005 and continues three other previous “threads” bearing the same title except the number. I joined Skyscrapercity only last July but I have been surfing since two years back and there is so much information on this forum and the others of similar intent that one can virtually write a book or two about the Philippine past by just reading through the pages.

For anyone who wants to know more about heritage advocacy and preservation, for example, there is another thread entitled, “Protecting and Preserving our Heritage (Thread III)” started on March 5, 2006 by a member who goes by the name “Wonderboy, Batang Maynila.” It is currently on its 26th page of tips and reports of heritage issues and concerns all over the country.

Other threads of interest can be found if one clicks on the clickable titles of links provided just below the Skyscrapercity masthead. Click on the heading “Photography, Heritage, and Architecture” and page opens to a list of nearly 50 other threads including “Philippines: Then and Now Photos”; “Yloilo: Campeon Filipino de la Herencia”; “Ciudad Murada: Intramuros de Manila”; “Foro Filipino (En Español); “Philippine Poetry”; “Wartime Philippines” and “Cebuano/Bisayas Language Thread.”

My favorite is, of course, “Cebu Heritage Walk,” where I regularly post requests for help, offer my own comments and upload photos mostly of archaeological sites in Cebu.

The fight to bring heritage into the agenda of development doesn’t have to be bloody. For those who have less time to wage the battle of persuading local chief executives and ordinary citizens alike to care for and do something about conserving the past, knowing what and why is just a click away.



:lol:haha may special mention pa si harveharve
hopefully this article catches the eye of other heritage-loving Cebuanos. Hope we see more new members contributing to this thread soon.

PAST FORWARD
An unlikely online forum for Cebuano heritage

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 02:56pm (Mla time) 11/29/2007

Ironic as it may look, an Internet forum dedicated to paying homage to the design of ultra-modern cities and megastructures is also home to a group of Filipino heritage advocates and enthusiasts working to preserve and promote Cebu’s and the rest of the country’s tangible and intangible remnants of times long gone.

Skyscarpercity.com, a web-based portal originally dedicated to architects, structural engineers and urban planners, actually includes just about anyone who wants to say or show something about his or her hometown. With 144,039 members, the site has about 306,581 topics or “threads,” which currently contain a total of 12,593,825 posts or online exchanges between members.

Among the membership is a dedicated bunch (and a few insomniacs) who tinker away at their computers in the wee hours of the night to post photos, information and trivia about some heritage site, vanishing trade or dying language somewhere in the Philippines.

There are two ways for the curious to check out these Philippine heritage-related forums at this portal.

One way is to go through the long and tedious process of clicking through hundreds of thousands of titled of threads after opening the site (www.skyscrapercity.com) until one reaches the Photography, Heritage, and Architecture, which is under the sub-forum “Around the Philippines.”

The other way is to go the shorter route by simply typing the words “Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 4” on Google, and clicking on the first result, which immediately brings you to the current page (page 45 or 46). Click on it and you are now at the last page of a highly informative forum spiced up with period photos I am sure many have never seen before. One can also surf through all the previous pages of this thread (the clickable page numbers are somewhere on the top-right hand corner of your computer screen).

Started by a heritage-savvy member registered as “Arnod_Carl,” this forum has been on-line since September 2005 and continues three other previous “threads” bearing the same title except the number. I joined Skyscrapercity only last July but I have been surfing since two years back and there is so much information on this forum and the others of similar intent that one can virtually write a book or two about the Philippine past by just reading through the pages.

For anyone who wants to know more about heritage advocacy and preservation, for example, there is another thread entitled, “Protecting and Preserving our Heritage (Thread III)” started on March 5, 2006 by a member who goes by the name “Wonderboy, Batang Maynila.” It is currently on its 26th page of tips and reports of heritage issues and concerns all over the country.

Other threads of interest can be found if one clicks on the clickable titles of links provided just below the Skyscrapercity masthead. Click on the heading “Photography, Heritage, and Architecture” and page opens to a list of nearly 50 other threads including “Philippines: Then and Now Photos”; “Yloilo: Campeon Filipino de la Herencia”; “Ciudad Murada: Intramuros de Manila”; “Foro Filipino (En Español); “Philippine Poetry”; “Wartime Philippines” and “Cebuano/Bisayas Language Thread.”

My favorite is, of course, “Cebu Heritage Walk,” where I regularly post requests for help, offer my own comments and upload photos mostly of archaeological sites in Cebu.

The fight to bring heritage into the agenda of development doesn’t have to be bloody. For those who have less time to wage the battle of persuading local chief executives and ordinary citizens alike to care for and do something about conserving the past, knowing what and why is just a click away.



:lol:haha may special mention pa si harveharve
hopefully this article catches the eye of other heritage-loving Cebuanos. Hope we see more new members contributing to this thread soon.

:lol:haha may special mention pa si harveharve
hopefully this article catches the eye of other heritage-loving Cebuanos. Hope we see more new members contributing to this thread soon.

^^
Insomniacs rule! hehe dili man ko maka-tog waaaah! :lol:

:lol:haha may special mention pa si harveharve
hopefully this article catches the eye of other heritage-loving Cebuanos. Hope we see more new members contributing to this thread soon.

^^
Insomniacs rule! hehe dili man ko maka-tog waaaah! :lol:

I don't know if these pictures may serve interest but this is what I found at the Autobiography of Arch.Cuenco who was the first archbishop of Jaro, native of Cebu.


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00003.jpg
Is this really how Iglesia de Santo Rosario looks like before?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00001.jpg
The cover

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00002.jpg
Bishop Gorordo

I don't know if these pictures may serve interest but this is what I found at the Autobiography of Arch.Cuenco who was the first archbishop of Jaro, native of Cebu.


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00003.jpg
Is this really how Iglesia de Santo Rosario looks like before?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00001.jpg
The cover

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Iloilo00002.jpg
Bishop Gorordo

I don't know if these pictures may serve interest but this is what I found at the Autobiography of Arch.Cuenco who was the first archbishop of Jaro, native of Cebu.





Yes, that's exactly how it looked. And it survived the war almost unscathed, despite the fact the Colegio de San Carlos nearby was a total wreck.

I don't know if these pictures may serve interest but this is what I found at the Autobiography of Arch.Cuenco who was the first archbishop of Jaro, native of Cebu.





Yes, that's exactly how it looked. And it survived the war almost unscathed, despite the fact the Colegio de San Carlos nearby was a total wreck.

PAST FORWARD
An unlikely online forum for Cebuano heritage
by Jobers R. Bersales



thanks, jrevalde, for posting the article....yup special mention nako si harve indirectly kay i've never really experienced insomnia...wish i could so that i could finish a lot of backlog that I'm into right now...

:cheers:

PAST FORWARD
An unlikely online forum for Cebuano heritage
by Jobers R. Bersales



thanks, jrevalde, for posting the article....yup special mention nako si harve indirectly kay i've never really experienced insomnia...wish i could so that i could finish a lot of backlog that I'm into right now...

:cheers:

^^

Thanks for promoting our forums sir, hehe.

Mag tarong na diay mi ug post dinhi kay hala...


Repost, Jesuit House of 1730 in Pari-an
by Stanley Cabigas, http://simbahan.net

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/JesuitHouseof1730/jesuithouse06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/JesuitHouseof1730/jesuithouse07.jpg



@Harve

Seems like you have lots of "treasures" there Harve.. Hehe..

Do you have some more old photos of Cebu? please post them too, hehehehehe...

I saw photos of the Cebu Railroad from someone who has a very "huge" collection of old Cebu photographs.

What amazed me were the pre-war photos of the interiors of the Cebu Cathedral.. The interiors reminded me of Argao Church -- the ceiling was decorated with paintings, a pipe organ was located at the left side of the nave, there were also musical instruments at the choir loft, and the main altar had a huge retablo! wow...

^^

Thanks for promoting our forums sir, hehe.

Mag tarong na diay mi ug post dinhi kay hala...


Repost, Jesuit House of 1730 in Pari-an
by Stanley Cabigas, http://simbahan.net

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/JesuitHouseof1730/jesuithouse06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/JesuitHouseof1730/jesuithouse07.jpg



@Harve

Seems like you have lots of "treasures" there Harve.. Hehe..

Do you have some more old photos of Cebu? please post them too, hehehehehe...

I saw photos of the Cebu Railroad from someone who has a very "huge" collection of old Cebu photographs.

What amazed me were the pre-war photos of the interiors of the Cebu Cathedral.. The interiors reminded me of Argao Church -- the ceiling was decorated with paintings, a pipe organ was located at the left side of the nave, there were also musical instruments at the choir loft, and the main altar had a huge retablo! wow...

^^

Thanks for promoting our forums sir, hehe.

Mag tarong na diay mi ug post dinhi kay hala...



I saw photos of the Cebu Railroad from someone who has a very "huge" collection of old Cebu photographs.

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haha...no need to be serious Arnold. All the posts here are serious enough na gali...keep up the good work!

i think i know the current owner of the photos you are referring to....


by the way, does anyone of you here have a copy or know someone who has a spare copy of Charles Burrit's 1901 book entitled: "The Coal Measures of the Philippines: A Rapid History of the Discovery of Coal in the Archipelago and Subsequent Developments with the Fulltext of the Record of the MacLeod Coal Concessions in Cebu or the Uling -Lutac Coal and Railway Concession"? Whew! What a mouthful for a title!

Look at the map of Cebu and the drawings for coal mines in Danao and Compostela, as well as the one in Uling, Naga that are in the book. The provincial museum would be happy to buy such a book. So far, I know of only the USC Filipiniana Lib and of course it's not for sale. Copies available in the U.S. and Great Britain are pangwarta jud kaau and presyo....

^^

Thanks for promoting our forums sir, hehe.

Mag tarong na diay mi ug post dinhi kay hala...



I saw photos of the Cebu Railroad from someone who has a very "huge" collection of old Cebu photographs.

...

haha...no need to be serious Arnold. All the posts here are serious enough na gali...keep up the good work!

i think i know the current owner of the photos you are referring to....


by the way, does anyone of you here have a copy or know someone who has a spare copy of Charles Burrit's 1901 book entitled: "The Coal Measures of the Philippines: A Rapid History of the Discovery of Coal in the Archipelago and Subsequent Developments with the Fulltext of the Record of the MacLeod Coal Concessions in Cebu or the Uling -Lutac Coal and Railway Concession"? Whew! What a mouthful for a title!

Look at the map of Cebu and the drawings for coal mines in Danao and Compostela, as well as the one in Uling, Naga that are in the book. The provincial museum would be happy to buy such a book. So far, I know of only the USC Filipiniana Lib and of course it's not for sale. Copies available in the U.S. and Great Britain are pangwarta jud kaau and presyo....

@Arnold:

hehe thanks, I was doing some spring (actually murag winter kay december na) cleaning at our old library, still have to sort through and catalogue the stuff lying around, there are some interesting pictures in those old albums. Sadly, I can't seem to find the rest of the Cebu albums, ang Manila albums paman akong nakit-an balik and a few maps and charts. In the next couple of weeks I'll dump more images :banana:

Oh! do you have interior shots of the Jesuit house? I would kill for interior pictures! I would massacre people for an in depth tour! hehe

@Arnold:

hehe thanks, I was doing some spring (actually murag winter kay december na) cleaning at our old library, still have to sort through and catalogue the stuff lying around, there are some interesting pictures in those old albums. Sadly, I can't seem to find the rest of the Cebu albums, ang Manila albums paman akong nakit-an balik and a few maps and charts. In the next couple of weeks I'll dump more images :banana:

Oh! do you have interior shots of the Jesuit house? I would kill for interior pictures! I would massacre people for an in depth tour! hehe

^^

Let's just agree on a date, say Friday morning, before lunch so that we can ask permission from Mr. Sy.

The corbels at the interiors bai are very Chinese. Were these part of the 18th century construction or were these recent additions when the house became a residence of the Alvarez and then a club? The floor is made up of planks of hardwood in alternating dark and light shades.

It's currently being used as a storage area but ironically it's in good shape compared with the Yap-Sandiego House nearby, hehe..

I wasn't able to bring a camera man gud when Stanley (estan here in SSC) and I went there.. We didn't even expect to be granted on-the-spot permission..


i think i know the current owner of the photos you are referring to....

hehe.. sir kuyog nya namo kung makasulod sa house.. is it true that there's a tunnel daw that connects the Jesuit House to the St.John the Baptist Church?

Also someone said nga the site where the former altar of the St. John the Baptist Church was located also contained a burial site of a Jesuit priest pero ewan...


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^^

Let's just agree on a date, say Friday morning, before lunch so that we can ask permission from Mr. Sy.

The corbels at the interiors bai are very Chinese. Were these part of the 18th century construction or were these recent additions when the house became a residence of the Alvarez and then a club? The floor is made up of planks of hardwood in alternating dark and light shades.

It's currently being used as a storage area but ironically it's in good shape compared with the Yap-Sandiego House nearby, hehe..

I wasn't able to bring a camera man gud when Stanley (estan here in SSC) and I went there.. We didn't even expect to be granted on-the-spot permission..


i think i know the current owner of the photos you are referring to....

hehe.. sir kuyog nya namo kung makasulod sa house.. is it true that there's a tunnel daw that connects the Jesuit House to the St.John the Baptist Church?

Also someone said nga the site where the former altar of the St. John the Baptist Church was located also contained a burial site of a Jesuit priest pero ewan...


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http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0772.jpg

This archway to the San Nicolas Catholic Cemetery (Calamba Cemetery) bears witness to that fateful day in April 3'rd, 1898 when roughly 2,500 Katipuneros amassed here from San Nicolas, Labangon and Sambag to answer Leon Kilat's call to arms.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0772.jpg

This archway to the San Nicolas Catholic Cemetery (Calamba Cemetery) bears witness to that fateful day in April 3'rd, 1898 when roughly 2,500 Katipuneros amassed here from San Nicolas, Labangon and Sambag to answer Leon Kilat's call to arms.

I'm not quite sure where to put these but these books are a tangible part of our intagible history hehe these were required reading in the 1920's up to the 1950's.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0792.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0777.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0778.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0785.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0786.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0787.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0789.jpg

I'm not quite sure where to put these but these books are a tangible part of our intagible history hehe these were required reading in the 1920's up to the 1950's.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0792.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0777.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0778.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0785.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0786.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0787.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0789.jpg

^^

Where's your Library located? is it a private family library?

^^

Where's your Library located? is it a private family library?

^^ it's a private library actually with on Spanish laws, commonwealth laws and Republic laws up to the present and some schoolbooks from the commonwealth period. we do have an interesting private collection of period jars, coins, cutlery among other things and some magsaysay memorabilias. we're still negotiating with some of our relatives who got the really old pieces as part of their herencia since my folks have been planning for a long time to set up a sort of museum on labangon and san nicolas' history (history major man sa usc akong dad in the 60's hehe and my great grand aunt was an antiquities dealer in the 1930's)

my grand dad had the old house demolished in the 60's and some interesting pieces went to our relatives nga "guipatul-asan hangtod nangadunot ang mga muebles" :ohno:

Perhaps in 5 years time ma-realize ni! hehe I do hope :banana: for now, nagkasaksak sinagol ang mga libro ug ubang mga pieces sa shelves and crates.

^^ it's a private library actually with on Spanish laws, commonwealth laws and Republic laws up to the present and some schoolbooks from the commonwealth period. we do have an interesting private collection of period jars, coins, cutlery among other things and some magsaysay memorabilias. we're still negotiating with some of our relatives who got the really old pieces as part of their herencia since my folks have been planning for a long time to set up a sort of museum on labangon and san nicolas' history (history major man sa usc akong dad in the 60's hehe and my great grand aunt was an antiquities dealer in the 1930's)

my grand dad had the old house demolished in the 60's and some interesting pieces went to our relatives nga "guipatul-asan hangtod nangadunot ang mga muebles" :ohno:

Perhaps in 5 years time ma-realize ni! hehe I do hope :banana: for now, nagkasaksak sinagol ang mga libro ug ubang mga pieces sa shelves and crates.

^^

The corbels at the interiors bai are very Chinese. Were these part of the 18th century construction or were these recent additions when the house became a residence of the Alvarez and then a club? The floor is made up of planks of hardwood in alternating dark and light shades.

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Does it look something like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Yingzao_Fashi_1.JPG

^^

The corbels at the interiors bai are very Chinese. Were these part of the 18th century construction or were these recent additions when the house became a residence of the Alvarez and then a club? The floor is made up of planks of hardwood in alternating dark and light shades.

..

Does it look something like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Yingzao_Fashi_1.JPG

^^

@HarveHarve

Nope.. Somewhat horizontal tu siya.. Basta it reminds me of a chinese restaurant, hehe..

Anyway, let's go there nalang. I Really want to take photos of it again for my blog..

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^^

@HarveHarve

Nope.. Somewhat horizontal tu siya.. Basta it reminds me of a chinese restaurant, hehe..

Anyway, let's go there nalang. I Really want to take photos of it again for my blog..

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I think it was something like this, if my memory was right, hehe..

http://blogs.bootsnall.com/gary/archives/chinese%20temple.JPG

http://www.leifpettersen.com/leifinasia3/chinesetemplesm.JPG

I think it was something like this, if my memory was right, hehe..

http://blogs.bootsnall.com/gary/archives/chinese%20temple.JPG

http://www.leifpettersen.com/leifinasia3/chinesetemplesm.JPG

deleted :cheers:

It may be viewed here (http://cebuano.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/world-war-ii-tunnel-in-banawa/) in its original context. :)

deleted :cheers:

It may be viewed here (http://cebuano.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/world-war-ii-tunnel-in-banawa/) in its original context. :)

What do people do after a war? Well, they party. :banana: And what a coincidence, I found an invitation to a party! (more like a handbill actually)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0819.jpg

"Thirsty Caballero" eh? hmmm except for those in the clergy, I don't have to wonder why the post war generation called themselves the "Baby Boomers".
Thirsty Caballero indeed.

Trivia: Riverside Park is actually the eastern bank of the Kinalumsan River in Labangon, near Salvador Street, which is a stone's throw away from the Punta Princesa Bridge. I've been told that in those days, it was a rather green park with a mini amphitheatre and a short lamp-lined promenade. As per the usual in Commonwealth architecture, these lamps were supposedly in the style of Corinthian columns and rows and rows of benches in between. I will still have to dig up its photo. :bash:

What do people do after a war? Well, they party. :banana: And what a coincidence, I found an invitation to a party! (more like a handbill actually)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0819.jpg

"Thirsty Caballero" eh? hmmm except for those in the clergy, I don't have to wonder why the post war generation called themselves the "Baby Boomers".
Thirsty Caballero indeed.

Trivia: Riverside Park is actually the eastern bank of the Kinalumsan River in Labangon, near Salvador Street, which is a stone's throw away from the Punta Princesa Bridge. I've been told that in those days, it was a rather green park with a mini amphitheatre and a short lamp-lined promenade. As per the usual in Commonwealth architecture, these lamps were supposedly in the style of Corinthian columns and rows and rows of benches in between. I will still have to dig up its photo. :bash:

@arnold:

If time permits haaaay my schedule is so tight these days.. but hopefully, I'll be free in the mornings of december 7&8. Our professors have this thing about catching us offguard by holding special classes on school holidays:bash:

text me lang nya, i sent you my mobile number :)

@arnold:

If time permits haaaay my schedule is so tight these days.. but hopefully, I'll be free in the mornings of december 7&8. Our professors have this thing about catching us offguard by holding special classes on school holidays:bash:

text me lang nya, i sent you my mobile number :)

Yes, that's exactly how it looked. And it survived the war almost unscathed, despite the fact the Colegio de San Carlos nearby was a total wreck.

Ok. Why isn't the structure existing anymore? Was it demolished to give way for a new church?

Yes, that's exactly how it looked. And it survived the war almost unscathed, despite the fact the Colegio de San Carlos nearby was a total wreck.

Ok. Why isn't the structure existing anymore? Was it demolished to give way for a new church?

Ok. Why isn't the structure existing anymore? Was it demolished to give way for a new church?

Some cardinal had it demolished in the 60s:ohno:

Ok. Why isn't the structure existing anymore? Was it demolished to give way for a new church?

Some cardinal had it demolished in the 60s:ohno:

^^ Are you referring to the same cardinal that demolished that grand Bahay na Bato Archbishop's Palace then (which is now Patria de Cebu)? Oh the tragedy! :ohno: the church then really looks nice than it is today.

^^ Are you referring to the same cardinal that demolished that grand Bahay na Bato Archbishop's Palace then (which is now Patria de Cebu)? Oh the tragedy! :ohno: the church then really looks nice than it is today.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0553.jpg

Engine Number 3. Taken circa 1930 with my grand aunt in the foreground.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0551.jpg

These look like coal cars.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0553.jpg

Engine Number 3. Taken circa 1930 with my grand aunt in the foreground.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0551.jpg

These look like coal cars.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0553.jpg

Engine Number 3. Taken circa 1930 with my grand aunt in the foreground.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0551.jpg

These look like coal cars.


They most certainly look like coal cars, especially since the line looks like the typical narrow-gauge rails for coal trains. Harve, do you know where this was taken? Danao or Naga?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0553.jpg

Engine Number 3. Taken circa 1930 with my grand aunt in the foreground.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0551.jpg

These look like coal cars.


They most certainly look like coal cars, especially since the line looks like the typical narrow-gauge rails for coal trains. Harve, do you know where this was taken? Danao or Naga?

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/bogoryaku2.gif
An overview map of the Bogo-Medellin Milling Co., railyard and surrounding structures.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120046.jpg
Railroad crossing.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120050.jpg
Another railroad crossing.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120081.jpg
Narrow gauge steam engine.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120058.jpg
Diesel engine number 7

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120074.jpg
Maintenance car number 3



http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120067.jpg
Diesel engine number 1

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120063.jpg
Disel engine number 4

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120070.jpg
Mill

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120094.jpg
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120089.jpg

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120093.jpg
crane tower at the mill.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120104.jpg
reverse line

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/bogoryaku2.gif
An overview map of the Bogo-Medellin Milling Co., railyard and surrounding structures.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120046.jpg
Railroad crossing.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120050.jpg
Another railroad crossing.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120081.jpg
Narrow gauge steam engine.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120058.jpg
Diesel engine number 7

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120074.jpg
Maintenance car number 3



http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120067.jpg
Diesel engine number 1

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120063.jpg
Disel engine number 4

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120070.jpg
Mill

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120094.jpg
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120089.jpg

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120093.jpg
crane tower at the mill.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/sPa120104.jpg
reverse line

^^ Who were the owners of the Bogo-Medellin Sugar Central?

^^ Who were the owners of the Bogo-Medellin Sugar Central?

^^

hehe.. sir kuyog nya namo kung makasulod sa house.. is it true that there's a tunnel daw that connects the Jesuit House to the St.John the Baptist Church?

..

ako ni ang "sir"? tiguwang na jud ko no? sige, just set the date basta di lang next week kay it's PAASCU survey week for all our undergrad programs at USC. Busy kaau.

^^

hehe.. sir kuyog nya namo kung makasulod sa house.. is it true that there's a tunnel daw that connects the Jesuit House to the St.John the Baptist Church?

..

ako ni ang "sir"? tiguwang na jud ko no? sige, just set the date basta di lang next week kay it's PAASCU survey week for all our undergrad programs at USC. Busy kaau.

^^@ Archaeologue:

"Kanlingo" ang caption sa back with a note saying "stopped by tree", I think there's a barangay somewhere up north near Danao called Canlingo, I think it's the same place. Here's the photo of the tree:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0552.jpg

^^@ Archaeologue:

"Kanlingo" ang caption sa back with a note saying "stopped by tree", I think there's a barangay somewhere up north near Danao called Canlingo, I think it's the same place. Here's the photo of the tree:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0552.jpg

^^ it's a private library actually with on Spanish laws, commonwealth laws and Republic laws up to the present and some schoolbooks from the commonwealth period. we do have an interesting private collection of period jars, coins, cutlery among other things and some magsaysay memorabilias. we're still negotiating with some of our relatives who got the really old pieces as part of their herencia since my folks have been planning for a long time to set up a sort of museum on labangon and san nicolas' history (history major man sa usc akong dad in the 60's hehe and my great grand aunt was an antiquities dealer in the 1930's)


Perhaps in 5 years time ma-realize ni! hehe I do hope :banana: for now, nagkasaksak sinagol ang mga libro ug ubang mga pieces sa shelves and crates.


Harve, if you have duplicates of anything, please loan them to the provincial museum ha? with the usual credits and acknowledgment of course...i have a loan agreement form that we can use anytime you are ready. hahah.


Ben Chua has volunteered to set up a gallery for the Tisnoys who particiapted in or provided funds to the Revolution in Cebu. Perhaps you can also do the same for your Kapitnuero relatives.

^^ it's a private library actually with on Spanish laws, commonwealth laws and Republic laws up to the present and some schoolbooks from the commonwealth period. we do have an interesting private collection of period jars, coins, cutlery among other things and some magsaysay memorabilias. we're still negotiating with some of our relatives who got the really old pieces as part of their herencia since my folks have been planning for a long time to set up a sort of museum on labangon and san nicolas' history (history major man sa usc akong dad in the 60's hehe and my great grand aunt was an antiquities dealer in the 1930's)


Perhaps in 5 years time ma-realize ni! hehe I do hope :banana: for now, nagkasaksak sinagol ang mga libro ug ubang mga pieces sa shelves and crates.


Harve, if you have duplicates of anything, please loan them to the provincial museum ha? with the usual credits and acknowledgment of course...i have a loan agreement form that we can use anytime you are ready. hahah.


Ben Chua has volunteered to set up a gallery for the Tisnoys who particiapted in or provided funds to the Revolution in Cebu. Perhaps you can also do the same for your Kapitnuero relatives.

^^ Who were the owners of the Bogo-Medellin Sugar Central?


I think one of the Osmenas... they do have a farm in Medellin if i'm not mistaken...

^^ Who were the owners of the Bogo-Medellin Sugar Central?


I think one of the Osmenas... they do have a farm in Medellin if i'm not mistaken...

Harve, if you have duplicates of anything, please loan them to the provincial museum ha? with the usual credits and acknowledgment of course...i have a loan agreement form that we can use anytime you are ready. hahah.


Ben Chua has volunteered to set up a gallery for the Tisnoys who particiapted in or provided funds to the Revolution in Cebu. Perhaps you can also do the same for your Kapitnuero relatives.

Speaking of Tsinoys, si Tuti ang gun-runner sa Katipunan, he used to have a street named after him in San Nicolas but was renamed Tomas Abella St., hehe

hehehe :lol: but of course! after we sort through the stuff... some of the books are totally coming off its bindings :ohno: my folks like Gwen, so it won't be a problem :)

Harve, if you have duplicates of anything, please loan them to the provincial museum ha? with the usual credits and acknowledgment of course...i have a loan agreement form that we can use anytime you are ready. hahah.


Ben Chua has volunteered to set up a gallery for the Tisnoys who particiapted in or provided funds to the Revolution in Cebu. Perhaps you can also do the same for your Kapitnuero relatives.

Speaking of Tsinoys, si Tuti ang gun-runner sa Katipunan, he used to have a street named after him in San Nicolas but was renamed Tomas Abella St., hehe

hehehe :lol: but of course! after we sort through the stuff... some of the books are totally coming off its bindings :ohno: my folks like Gwen, so it won't be a problem :)

If you look hard enough, you can actually see the abandoned railroad from Carcar up to Danao. Some look like mounds in the middle of farmland..

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013108.jpg
Carcar

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013109.jpg
Carcar

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013116.jpg
Railroad crossing somewhere near Sibonga and Sabang.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013119.jpg
Railroad cross and an abandoned railroad in Sibonga which eventually became a road, just like the N.Bacalso Ave, in Cebu City.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013122.jpg
A bridge on the river in Simala, Sibonga.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013128.jpg
Argao

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013131.jpg
Argao

If you look hard enough, you can actually see the abandoned railroad from Carcar up to Danao. Some look like mounds in the middle of farmland..

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013108.jpg
Carcar

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013109.jpg
Carcar

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013116.jpg
Railroad crossing somewhere near Sibonga and Sabang.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013119.jpg
Railroad cross and an abandoned railroad in Sibonga which eventually became a road, just like the N.Bacalso Ave, in Cebu City.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013122.jpg
A bridge on the river in Simala, Sibonga.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013128.jpg
Argao

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/5P5013131.jpg
Argao

^^ Are you referring to the same cardinal that demolished that grand Bahay na Bato Archbishop's Palace then (which is now Patria de Cebu)? Oh the tragedy! :ohno: the church then really looks nice than it is today.


I think he's the same one, I forgot his name though...

^^ Are you referring to the same cardinal that demolished that grand Bahay na Bato Archbishop's Palace then (which is now Patria de Cebu)? Oh the tragedy! :ohno: the church then really looks nice than it is today.


I think he's the same one, I forgot his name though...

I see. I also heard that the Chans (JoMari Chan and family) of Iloilo have a plantation there somewhere in northern Cebu but I have no confirmation whether this is true or not.

I see. I also heard that the Chans (JoMari Chan and family) of Iloilo have a plantation there somewhere in northern Cebu but I have no confirmation whether this is true or not.

^^

Jose Mari Chan actually has a relative in Bogo, the dela Viñas :D

I think his mom or lola was from Bogo, Cebu pero not sure basta dela Viña..



@Harve

Harve, just beside the Valladolid Bridge in Carcar is a concrete base of an old bridge similar to the one that you posted.. Could this have been part of the old railway?

When my Lolo and I went to Sibonga, around 10 years ago, we actually saw a steel bridge that is still intact and he said that it was part of the old railway line.. I've been looking for this bridge ever since, I think it has been demolished already..


By the way, allow me to repost your photos in other threads here in SSC, hehe..

When I was in Medellin around 2003, I saw one of the trains carrying sugarcane! Hehe..


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^^

Jose Mari Chan actually has a relative in Bogo, the dela Viñas :D

I think his mom or lola was from Bogo, Cebu pero not sure basta dela Viña..



@Harve

Harve, just beside the Valladolid Bridge in Carcar is a concrete base of an old bridge similar to the one that you posted.. Could this have been part of the old railway?

When my Lolo and I went to Sibonga, around 10 years ago, we actually saw a steel bridge that is still intact and he said that it was part of the old railway line.. I've been looking for this bridge ever since, I think it has been demolished already..


By the way, allow me to repost your photos in other threads here in SSC, hehe..

When I was in Medellin around 2003, I saw one of the trains carrying sugarcane! Hehe..


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^^ Are they hacenderos of that place too?

By the way, when did Cebu's railway cease to exist? Was it after World War 2?

^^ Are they hacenderos of that place too?

By the way, when did Cebu's railway cease to exist? Was it after World War 2?

I think Jose Mari Chan also has another business down south Cebu, pero I'm not sure and I forgot what it was.

I think Jose Mari Chan also has another business down south Cebu, pero I'm not sure and I forgot what it was.

@Arnold:

It is possible, when the highway was constructed by Mr. Macapagal, it followed the old railway as much as possible save perhaps in few places, the next time i'll visit the south I'll make sure to stop by the bridge and check out the base so we can compare it with extant rail bridges.

The only steel bridge I remember was the one near Campo 7 on the Mananga river..

@Arnold:

It is possible, when the highway was constructed by Mr. Macapagal, it followed the old railway as much as possible save perhaps in few places, the next time i'll visit the south I'll make sure to stop by the bridge and check out the base so we can compare it with extant rail bridges.

The only steel bridge I remember was the one near Campo 7 on the Mananga river..

^^

Lots of them actually in Carcar, Sibonga and then Argao.. Saw them when I went to Argao 3 weeks ago.. At first I thought these were WWII bunkers, hehe..

Yes indeed! We saw a steel bridge somewhere in Sibonga or I'm not sure as to where it really was basta we were on our way to Sibonga that time.. If you're driving south, naa siya sa left side sa highway, medyo malayo actually from the highway itself but I can still remember how it looked.

The bridge was already rusty but still intact. That was more than 10 years ago.. I've been looking for it ever since but I think it has been destroyed already.



Below are photos of the Carcar Train Station, posted by @Kentaro in the previous CHW Thread,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg




@Harve

The steel bridge that we saw looked like this one in Ilo-ilo bai Harvey.

Sure ko gipatimbang na cguro tu, even the old Spanish bridge in Alegria was destroyed by DPWH right?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/Passi%20City/PASSI-TrainBridge1.jpg


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^^

Lots of them actually in Carcar, Sibonga and then Argao.. Saw them when I went to Argao 3 weeks ago.. At first I thought these were WWII bunkers, hehe..

Yes indeed! We saw a steel bridge somewhere in Sibonga or I'm not sure as to where it really was basta we were on our way to Sibonga that time.. If you're driving south, naa siya sa left side sa highway, medyo malayo actually from the highway itself but I can still remember how it looked.

The bridge was already rusty but still intact. That was more than 10 years ago.. I've been looking for it ever since but I think it has been destroyed already.



Below are photos of the Carcar Train Station, posted by @Kentaro in the previous CHW Thread,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg




@Harve

The steel bridge that we saw looked like this one in Ilo-ilo bai Harvey.

Sure ko gipatimbang na cguro tu, even the old Spanish bridge in Alegria was destroyed by DPWH right?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/Passi%20City/PASSI-TrainBridge1.jpg


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^^ Are they hacenderos of that place too?

By the way, when did Cebu's railway cease to exist? Was it after World War 2?

From 1907 to 1956/1957 the Philippine Railway Co. operated the 96km stretch of railway from Argao to Danao connecting the Cebu Cement Co. (Danao) to the National Coal Mine (Argao) (I think have it backwards hehe)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railwaya.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railway1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railway2.jpg

^^ Are they hacenderos of that place too?

By the way, when did Cebu's railway cease to exist? Was it after World War 2?

From 1907 to 1956/1957 the Philippine Railway Co. operated the 96km stretch of railway from Argao to Danao connecting the Cebu Cement Co. (Danao) to the National Coal Mine (Argao) (I think have it backwards hehe)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railwaya.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railway1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/railway2.jpg

@Harve

The steel bridge that we saw looked like this one in Ilo-ilo bai Harvey.

Sure ko gipatimbang na cguro tu, even the old Spanish bridge in Alegria was destroyed by DPWH right?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/Passi%20City/PASSI-TrainBridge1.jpg


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^^ Uyy, Passi Panay Railway Bridge. It still exists though pero giamat-amat na nagawala. Naa man pud sa amua sa una sa Pavia (Iloilo) pero gidemolish man pud 2 years ago. Sayang.

But anyway, I saw some old maps of Cebu City. It seems that the old railway path is now N.Bacalso-P.Del Rosario-Imus Roads, isn't that right?

@Harve

The steel bridge that we saw looked like this one in Ilo-ilo bai Harvey.

Sure ko gipatimbang na cguro tu, even the old Spanish bridge in Alegria was destroyed by DPWH right?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/Passi%20City/PASSI-TrainBridge1.jpg


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^^ Uyy, Passi Panay Railway Bridge. It still exists though pero giamat-amat na nagawala. Naa man pud sa amua sa una sa Pavia (Iloilo) pero gidemolish man pud 2 years ago. Sayang.

But anyway, I saw some old maps of Cebu City. It seems that the old railway path is now N.Bacalso-P.Del Rosario-Imus Roads, isn't that right?

^^ Uyy, Passi Panay Railway Bridge. It still exists though pero giamat-amat na nagawala. Naa man pud sa amua sa una sa Pavia (Iloilo) pero gidemolish man pud 2 years ago. Sayang.

But anyway, I saw some old maps of Cebu City. It seems that the old railway path is now N.Bacalso-P.Del Rosario-Imus Roads, isn't that right?

Yup, N. Bacalso, P. del Rosario and Imus sts. pretty much follow the old railway, not to mention the highway going up north and down south hehe

^^
Most maps floating around the net are from the 1940s Army maps, I posted a map from 1910-1912 on page 45 or 46 hehe check out the railway... the roads i've mentioned above practically follows it...

Carbon, Cebu City: most train cars dump coal from the south to feed the VECO powerplant hehe all tracks lead to Carbon :banana:

@ Arnold:

Gi-himulbolan na to ug gipatimbang... bisag kanang no-parking sign nga nabawg lang gabson man gani... hayyy

Oh! the one in alegria? if memory serves, it was demolished... the only one in existence in Cebu province... kay nagduka tingali ang engineer gikan sa province when Gwen said to have it restored and protected :bash: :ohno:

^^ Uyy, Passi Panay Railway Bridge. It still exists though pero giamat-amat na nagawala. Naa man pud sa amua sa una sa Pavia (Iloilo) pero gidemolish man pud 2 years ago. Sayang.

But anyway, I saw some old maps of Cebu City. It seems that the old railway path is now N.Bacalso-P.Del Rosario-Imus Roads, isn't that right?

Yup, N. Bacalso, P. del Rosario and Imus sts. pretty much follow the old railway, not to mention the highway going up north and down south hehe

^^
Most maps floating around the net are from the 1940s Army maps, I posted a map from 1910-1912 on page 45 or 46 hehe check out the railway... the roads i've mentioned above practically follows it...

Carbon, Cebu City: most train cars dump coal from the south to feed the VECO powerplant hehe all tracks lead to Carbon :banana:

@ Arnold:

Gi-himulbolan na to ug gipatimbang... bisag kanang no-parking sign nga nabawg lang gabson man gani... hayyy

Oh! the one in alegria? if memory serves, it was demolished... the only one in existence in Cebu province... kay nagduka tingali ang engineer gikan sa province when Gwen said to have it restored and protected :bash: :ohno:

^^

@Bernie

Here's a map Bernie

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/cebu_philippines_1944.jpg

http://www.whoa.org/publications/maps/09cebu.jpg

^^

@Bernie

Here's a map Bernie

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/cebu_philippines_1944.jpg

http://www.whoa.org/publications/maps/09cebu.jpg

Here,

Got this from that Japanese site where you got the pics.

The concrete base beside Valladolid bridge is very very similar to this,
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/aoyama2_7m.jpg

There were also other smaller concrete bases like this,
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/aoyama2_8m.jpg


Basta they were just beside the highway.. Maklaro man especially nga Ceres Bus ang sakyan..hehe..





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Here,

Got this from that Japanese site where you got the pics.

The concrete base beside Valladolid bridge is very very similar to this,
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/aoyama2_7m.jpg

There were also other smaller concrete bases like this,
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~Philrail/aoyama2_8m.jpg


Basta they were just beside the highway.. Maklaro man especially nga Ceres Bus ang sakyan..hehe..





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@Harvey

Saw this aerial photo of Cebu from http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-M-AvPhil/index.html#index

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-M-AvPhil/img/USMC-M-AvPhil-p120.jpg




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@Harvey

Saw this aerial photo of Cebu from http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-M-AvPhil/index.html#index

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-M-AvPhil/img/USMC-M-AvPhil-p120.jpg




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Here's an old Caltex map of Cebu...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/09cebu.jpg

Here's an old Caltex map of Cebu...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/09cebu.jpg

Here,

Basta they were just beside the highway.. Maklaro man especially nga Ceres Bus ang sakyan..hehe..

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ako nya tong tan-awn, i usually can't get to look around when i'm driving south... driver man gud hehehehe :nuts:

Here,

Basta they were just beside the highway.. Maklaro man especially nga Ceres Bus ang sakyan..hehe..

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ako nya tong tan-awn, i usually can't get to look around when i'm driving south... driver man gud hehehehe :nuts:

^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

Sayang kaayo ang areas left and right sa Jones Avenue, hehe..

Even in Google Maps, lain jud tan-awon..


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^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

Sayang kaayo ang areas left and right sa Jones Avenue, hehe..

Even in Google Maps, lain jud tan-awon..


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^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

Sayang kaayo ang areas left and right sa Jones Avenue, hehe..

Even in Google Maps, lain jud tan-awon..


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True, i just realized something weird about his caltex map, i think it's an early post war map, the highway that connects with p. del rosario hasn't been constructed yet. And the even weirder part, salvador st connects with c. padilla...

The only part of the city with a grid lay out is Mabolo and Pardo, but not the city proper... the parsons plan would have made cebu look grand indeed.. maybe post-war reconstruction did away with the plans to cut costs, besides, expropriation could cost the government a pretty penny

^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

Sayang kaayo ang areas left and right sa Jones Avenue, hehe..

Even in Google Maps, lain jud tan-awon..


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True, i just realized something weird about his caltex map, i think it's an early post war map, the highway that connects with p. del rosario hasn't been constructed yet. And the even weirder part, salvador st connects with c. padilla...

The only part of the city with a grid lay out is Mabolo and Pardo, but not the city proper... the parsons plan would have made cebu look grand indeed.. maybe post-war reconstruction did away with the plans to cut costs, besides, expropriation could cost the government a pretty penny

^^in fairness, bag-o daw trends karon sa urban planning kay di na into the grid lay-out...advanced diay ang Cebu :lol:

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so, why was there no effort to revive the railways after the war?

^^in fairness, bag-o daw trends karon sa urban planning kay di na into the grid lay-out...advanced diay ang Cebu :lol:

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so, why was there no effort to revive the railways after the war?

^^

@Harve

It's indeed a post war map bai (Caltex) :D

Compare it with the one drafted by the US Army..
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/cebu_philippines_1944.jpg


@Pirena

Sayang lagi.. I also thought there was an appropriation from the US Congress to rebuild structures destroyed during the war, hehe..

I read somewhere that an Electric Tram was about to be installed in Cebu but the war broke out, hehe..


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@Harve

It's indeed a post war map bai (Caltex) :D

Compare it with the one drafted by the US Army..
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/cebu_philippines_1944.jpg


@Pirena

Sayang lagi.. I also thought there was an appropriation from the US Congress to rebuild structures destroyed during the war, hehe..

I read somewhere that an Electric Tram was about to be installed in Cebu but the war broke out, hehe..


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^^ The US needs to rebuild their econmy first during that time! They just had the 10 year recession. Definately, World War II made the USA to being a First World country with it's wartime economy of making "weapons of mass destructions". :D Wow, maayo na diri. Daghan na experto. :)

^^ The US needs to rebuild their econmy first during that time! They just had the 10 year recession. Definately, World War II made the USA to being a First World country with it's wartime economy of making "weapons of mass destructions". :D Wow, maayo na diri. Daghan na experto. :)

Some of these names are familiar, some of them strange. See how many you can find with streets named after them. Here's a list of revolutionaries compiled sometime in the mid-1990's. It would be great to see all these names on a plaque someday ala vietnam memorial or arlington.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0823.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0825.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0826.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0827.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0828.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0829.jpg

Some of these names are familiar, some of them strange. See how many you can find with streets named after them. Here's a list of revolutionaries compiled sometime in the mid-1990's. It would be great to see all these names on a plaque someday ala vietnam memorial or arlington.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0823.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0825.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0826.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0827.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0828.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0829.jpg

hope cebu’s local governments would channel more resources for the preservation of buildings, structures and items that have historical value. millions of tourists flock to europe every year mainly to see old structures and museums. in germany, for example, many people go to heidelberg mainly to see that old castle built in the 13th century. many also go to bremerhaven to visit the museum for world war II submarines. of course, italy and greece have those old structures that we see in our history books.

hope cebu’s local governments would channel more resources for the preservation of buildings, structures and items that have historical value. millions of tourists flock to europe every year mainly to see old structures and museums. in germany, for example, many people go to heidelberg mainly to see that old castle built in the 13th century. many also go to bremerhaven to visit the museum for world war II submarines. of course, italy and greece have those old structures that we see in our history books.

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so, why was there no effort to revive the railways after the war?

The Philippine Railways Company which ran the Cebu line never made any profit from the trains going south to Argao and north to Danao.

The competition among buses was so fierce that in the the 1930s, they were virtually killing each other's dispatchers and conductors.

There are some 1930s articles in the Rama-run newsweekly Bag-ong Kusog (Nueva Fuerza) that chronicle the cutthroat competition among buses and the kinds of things they did to lower the price of a ticket (and with free cargoes, of course), to the detriment of the railway company.

I believe this is the same reason why trains never made money anywhere in the world, especially after the war when the development of large buses cancelled out many short-route trains. In fact the PNR in Manila is still subsidized by the National Government (our taxes ha!) or else it would not operate at all.

* * *

so, why was there no effort to revive the railways after the war?

The Philippine Railways Company which ran the Cebu line never made any profit from the trains going south to Argao and north to Danao.

The competition among buses was so fierce that in the the 1930s, they were virtually killing each other's dispatchers and conductors.

There are some 1930s articles in the Rama-run newsweekly Bag-ong Kusog (Nueva Fuerza) that chronicle the cutthroat competition among buses and the kinds of things they did to lower the price of a ticket (and with free cargoes, of course), to the detriment of the railway company.

I believe this is the same reason why trains never made money anywhere in the world, especially after the war when the development of large buses cancelled out many short-route trains. In fact the PNR in Manila is still subsidized by the National Government (our taxes ha!) or else it would not operate at all.

Speaking of Tsinoys, si Tuti ang gun-runner sa Katipunan, he used to have a street named after him in San Nicolas but was renamed Tomas Abella St., hehe

hehehe :lol: but of course! after we sort through the stuff... some of the books are totally coming off its bindings :ohno: my folks like Gwen, so it won't be a problem :)

Great! Take your time. If you need help on the conservation of printed documents, Ang Bantayanon can help you..But i think you know what to do already.

Speaking of Tsinoys, si Tuti ang gun-runner sa Katipunan, he used to have a street named after him in San Nicolas but was renamed Tomas Abella St., hehe

hehehe :lol: but of course! after we sort through the stuff... some of the books are totally coming off its bindings :ohno: my folks like Gwen, so it won't be a problem :)

Great! Take your time. If you need help on the conservation of printed documents, Ang Bantayanon can help you..But i think you know what to do already.

Gi-himulbolan na to ug gipatimbang... bisag kanang no-parking sign nga nabawg lang gabson man gani... hayyy



I don't think gipangawat ang rails and ties after the war. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation, forerunner of the Development Bank of the Philippines, gave war reparations to the Phil. Railway Company then sold most of the metal and the ties, including the trains (or whatever survived the war) and the property on which they stood. Of course they retained the central station (in Kamagayan, where Citicenter is located now?) and the depot where you know find DBP and GSIS. The rest surrounding it were gradually sold.

USC would have built the Girls High School just across Landbank had it not been for one city councilor who opposed the awarding of the bid around 1958. He is long dead but USC will never forget what he did, especially because he was a Carolinian.

Some ties were never removed, however, and they remain underneath house floors in Kamagayan, in Minglanilla, even in Mambaling, where I occasionally get reports their being unearthed as usual---and you guessed it---while digging for a septic tank.

Gi-himulbolan na to ug gipatimbang... bisag kanang no-parking sign nga nabawg lang gabson man gani... hayyy



I don't think gipangawat ang rails and ties after the war. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation, forerunner of the Development Bank of the Philippines, gave war reparations to the Phil. Railway Company then sold most of the metal and the ties, including the trains (or whatever survived the war) and the property on which they stood. Of course they retained the central station (in Kamagayan, where Citicenter is located now?) and the depot where you know find DBP and GSIS. The rest surrounding it were gradually sold.

USC would have built the Girls High School just across Landbank had it not been for one city councilor who opposed the awarding of the bid around 1958. He is long dead but USC will never forget what he did, especially because he was a Carolinian.

Some ties were never removed, however, and they remain underneath house floors in Kamagayan, in Minglanilla, even in Mambaling, where I occasionally get reports their being unearthed as usual---and you guessed it---while digging for a septic tank.

^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

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I think the problem had to do with the very narrow flat areas of the city (extending only up to an average of only 1.50 km from the shoreline). While it may be difficult to notice it but the flatness of downtown Cebu actually ends abruptly somewhere in Sanciangco. You steadily climb to uptown area and this is noticeable at USC Main up to R.R. Landon then to Junquera and F. Ramos.

The terrain probably caused the alteration in the grid pattern. For example, the nouveau riche of the 1930s considered F. Ramos an ideal subdivision to live in kay it was perched on a hill of some sort.

^^

Regarding the Caltex map, I asked Nigel Villarete who also happens to be a forumer here in SSC (zidlakan) as to why, compared with Davao and other cities like Bacolod, General Santos City, etc., Cebu has fewer grid-like streets..

I thought there was already a City Beautiful plan by Parsons. And if money was a problem that time, why where other cities able to implement the grid-like streets when Cebu was already in the top three cities before and after the war?

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I think the problem had to do with the very narrow flat areas of the city (extending only up to an average of only 1.50 km from the shoreline). While it may be difficult to notice it but the flatness of downtown Cebu actually ends abruptly somewhere in Sanciangco. You steadily climb to uptown area and this is noticeable at USC Main up to R.R. Landon then to Junquera and F. Ramos.

The terrain probably caused the alteration in the grid pattern. For example, the nouveau riche of the 1930s considered F. Ramos an ideal subdivision to live in kay it was perched on a hill of some sort.

Regarding the railways, where is the central terminal of once Cebu's railways?

I've heard that there is something about Carreta that is quite related to the railway system.

@Bai Arnold. Daghan salamat sa maps. :)

Regarding the railways, where is the central terminal of once Cebu's railways?

I've heard that there is something about Carreta that is quite related to the railway system.

@Bai Arnold. Daghan salamat sa maps. :)

HI everyone,

Dugaydugay jud ko nawala diri.. Had a full schedule this past month.. Got busy with opening of classes and researching for the provincial history project. In between these roles I was able to slip out of Cebu to attend three conferences. Went to CDO for the Filipino Archivists convention, then Dumaguete where I got to meet Dr. Augusto De Viana of National Historical Institute, then just yesterday, Tangub City for the Phil. National Historical Society Conference. Last Nov. 22, I also accompanied Ricky Jose to southern Cebu churches and got to learn many things again.

Last Nov 25, I was also in Carcar City and met Gov. Sotero Cabahug's descendants. Got many updates particularly after talking to Dr. De Viana regarding putting up NHI markers in several sites in Cebu like the Noel House in Carcar where Leon Kilat's murder was hatched, the Sato house where the house Leon Kilat was murdered in 1898 used to stand and several churches like the Cebu Cathedral and Oslob.

In Tangub, I was introduced by Sir Ricky Jose to Fr. Antonio Flores of the Archdiocesan Archives of Manila to facilitate researches in that facility in the future.

More updates soon.

HI everyone,

Dugaydugay jud ko nawala diri.. Had a full schedule this past month.. Got busy with opening of classes and researching for the provincial history project. In between these roles I was able to slip out of Cebu to attend three conferences. Went to CDO for the Filipino Archivists convention, then Dumaguete where I got to meet Dr. Augusto De Viana of National Historical Institute, then just yesterday, Tangub City for the Phil. National Historical Society Conference. Last Nov. 22, I also accompanied Ricky Jose to southern Cebu churches and got to learn many things again.

Last Nov 25, I was also in Carcar City and met Gov. Sotero Cabahug's descendants. Got many updates particularly after talking to Dr. De Viana regarding putting up NHI markers in several sites in Cebu like the Noel House in Carcar where Leon Kilat's murder was hatched, the Sato house where the house Leon Kilat was murdered in 1898 used to stand and several churches like the Cebu Cathedral and Oslob.

In Tangub, I was introduced by Sir Ricky Jose to Fr. Antonio Flores of the Archdiocesan Archives of Manila to facilitate researches in that facility in the future.

More updates soon.

Welcome diay to new member Harvey!

Welcome to the club!

Welcome diay to new member Harvey!

Welcome to the club!

Regarding the railways, where is the central terminal of once Cebu's railways?

I've heard that there is something about Carreta that is quite related to the railway system.

@Bai Arnold. Daghan salamat sa maps. :)


Bernie, i think Kamagayan was the central station. in fact, prostitution reportedly proliferated in the area during the heyday of the trains (and even until now) because all trains would stop here before going to the depot. ergo, all passengers would get off here to change trains or to spend the night.

i noticed while i was still studying abroad that central stations tend to house a lot of people who stay overnight if they have nowhere to go. perhaps mao ni ang reason we have prostituted women---para makapawala sa laay pagkagabii...while waiting for the early morning train...hahaha.

Regarding the railways, where is the central terminal of once Cebu's railways?

I've heard that there is something about Carreta that is quite related to the railway system.

@Bai Arnold. Daghan salamat sa maps. :)


Bernie, i think Kamagayan was the central station. in fact, prostitution reportedly proliferated in the area during the heyday of the trains (and even until now) because all trains would stop here before going to the depot. ergo, all passengers would get off here to change trains or to spend the night.

i noticed while i was still studying abroad that central stations tend to house a lot of people who stay overnight if they have nowhere to go. perhaps mao ni ang reason we have prostituted women---para makapawala sa laay pagkagabii...while waiting for the early morning train...hahaha.

waaah...not a single ancestor of mine in the list... :(

@archeologue: i love your statement on the nouveau riche and their exclusive nooks...that somehow in a way shows that these kind of developments are in a way detrimental to a city's growth--not that it stunts growth, but leads to an unhealthy pattern of growth

waaah...not a single ancestor of mine in the list... :(

@archeologue: i love your statement on the nouveau riche and their exclusive nooks...that somehow in a way shows that these kind of developments are in a way detrimental to a city's growth--not that it stunts growth, but leads to an unhealthy pattern of growth

Last Nov 25, I was also in Carcar City and met Gov. Sotero Cabahug's descendants.


Triz, I hope you got some memorabilia from the descendants of Justice Cabahug for the museum....Have you met his daugher (or is it granddaughter) Guadalupe? Resil told me she may be the one that has some mementos of the guy.

Last Nov 25, I was also in Carcar City and met Gov. Sotero Cabahug's descendants.


Triz, I hope you got some memorabilia from the descendants of Justice Cabahug for the museum....Have you met his daugher (or is it granddaughter) Guadalupe? Resil told me she may be the one that has some mementos of the guy.

waaah...not a single ancestor of mine in the list... :(

@archeologue: i love your statement on the nouveau riche and their exclusive nooks...that somehow in a way shows that these kind of developments are in a way detrimental to a city's growth--not that it stunts growth, but leads to an unhealthy pattern of growth

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.


by the way thanks, for the compliment...:)

speaking of development, you will notice the lopsidedness of subdivisions devoted to the current batch of new rich of Cebu. They're almost all on the north (Ma. Luisa, Dona Rita, North Town, Mahogany Grove, Sto. Nino, Pristina North, etc.) whereas the working class neighborhoods are on the south side of the city...

waaah...not a single ancestor of mine in the list... :(

@archeologue: i love your statement on the nouveau riche and their exclusive nooks...that somehow in a way shows that these kind of developments are in a way detrimental to a city's growth--not that it stunts growth, but leads to an unhealthy pattern of growth

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.


by the way thanks, for the compliment...:)

speaking of development, you will notice the lopsidedness of subdivisions devoted to the current batch of new rich of Cebu. They're almost all on the north (Ma. Luisa, Dona Rita, North Town, Mahogany Grove, Sto. Nino, Pristina North, etc.) whereas the working class neighborhoods are on the south side of the city...

Welcome diay to new member Harvey!

Welcome to the club!

Thanks. Been lurking here for a while but now posting stuff hehe

Welcome diay to new member Harvey!

Welcome to the club!

Thanks. Been lurking here for a while but now posting stuff hehe

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.


mine were probably even worse! :bash:the tipster was from labangon and also an Abella! paet! while her cousins were having meetings in Punta Princesa

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.


mine were probably even worse! :bash:the tipster was from labangon and also an Abella! paet! while her cousins were having meetings in Punta Princesa

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cdprc.jpg
The dreaded Carcel (formerly CPDRC but soon to be the provincial museum)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/bythewaterfront.jpg
Somewhere near Pier 1 or Fort San Pedro.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/bythewaterfront2.jpg
Another view of the waterfront.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cebucustomhouse.jpg
The old customs house (I don't really know where the customs house was located).

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/governorspalace.jpg
The Governor's Palace. The monument looks like the one at the Plaza Independencia.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cdprc.jpg
The dreaded Carcel (formerly CPDRC but soon to be the provincial museum)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/bythewaterfront.jpg
Somewhere near Pier 1 or Fort San Pedro.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/bythewaterfront2.jpg
Another view of the waterfront.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cebucustomhouse.jpg
The old customs house (I don't really know where the customs house was located).

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/governorspalace.jpg
The Governor's Palace. The monument looks like the one at the Plaza Independencia.

mine were probably even worse! :bash:the tipster was from labangon and also an Abella! paet! while her cousins were having meetings in Punta Princesa

Do you have a list of the Royalist? The only last name that belongs to my family tree are the Abellanas and Climacos. :)

mine were probably even worse! :bash:the tipster was from labangon and also an Abella! paet! while her cousins were having meetings in Punta Princesa

Do you have a list of the Royalist? The only last name that belongs to my family tree are the Abellanas and Climacos. :)

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.





My great-great-grandfather Capitan Rufu Dicdiquin was a captain in the spanish army, that is according to my lola and my dad, he was stationed at Dalaguete during the outbreak of the revolution. I find it hard to believe though since his surname doesnt sound spanish at all, i wonder if they took in natives or maybe he was in the spanish militia and was informally called capitan. My other great-great granpa on my moms side, Hilario Lafuente, fought for the spanish coz his dad was spanish. hmm...I however see a gutierres in the list of katipuneros, my great grandma was a gutierrez with a Z though so i wonder if they are related.

my ancestors were probably worse: the Reyneses were reportedly on the side of the Spanish loyalists! paet.





My great-great-grandfather Capitan Rufu Dicdiquin was a captain in the spanish army, that is according to my lola and my dad, he was stationed at Dalaguete during the outbreak of the revolution. I find it hard to believe though since his surname doesnt sound spanish at all, i wonder if they took in natives or maybe he was in the spanish militia and was informally called capitan. My other great-great granpa on my moms side, Hilario Lafuente, fought for the spanish coz his dad was spanish. hmm...I however see a gutierres in the list of katipuneros, my great grandma was a gutierrez with a Z though so i wonder if they are related.

Some of these names are familiar, some of them strange. See how many you can find with streets named after them. Here's a list of revolutionaries compiled sometime in the mid-1990's. It would be great to see all these names on a plaque someday ala vietnam memorial or arlington.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0823.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0825.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0826.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0827.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0828.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0829.jpg

!!!!!!!

@harveharve,

My paternal greatgranddad is there!!! Where did u get this list? Wa gyuy nakahibawo niini sa amo-a. Pirme lang misteryoso kaayo...

thank you...
Ang Pu'ang Abat
:)

Some of these names are familiar, some of them strange. See how many you can find with streets named after them. Here's a list of revolutionaries compiled sometime in the mid-1990's. It would be great to see all these names on a plaque someday ala vietnam memorial or arlington.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0823.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0824.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0825.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0826.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0827.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0828.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0829.jpg

!!!!!!!

@harveharve,

My paternal greatgranddad is there!!! Where did u get this list? Wa gyuy nakahibawo niini sa amo-a. Pirme lang misteryoso kaayo...

thank you...
Ang Pu'ang Abat
:)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cdprc.jpg
The dreaded Carcel (formerly CPDRC but soon to be the provincial museum)





http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/governorspalace.jpg
The Governor's Palace. The monument looks like the one at the Plaza Independencia.


It is the same monument that you find today at Plaza Independencia.


harve,

favor (again) beh! can i have high resolution scans of these two photos and of any other photos that you have of the Carcel and the Casa Provincial? The photo you have of the Carcel was taken from the inside looking out or at least looking at the back of the admin building. Maybe there is one showing the facade?

Also, do you have photos of any of the poblacion or plaza complex of any of the Cebu towns?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/cdprc.jpg
The dreaded Carcel (formerly CPDRC but soon to be the provincial museum)





http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/governorspalace.jpg
The Governor's Palace. The monument looks like the one at the Plaza Independencia.


It is the same monument that you find today at Plaza Independencia.


harve,

favor (again) beh! can i have high resolution scans of these two photos and of any other photos that you have of the Carcel and the Casa Provincial? The photo you have of the Carcel was taken from the inside looking out or at least looking at the back of the admin building. Maybe there is one showing the facade?

Also, do you have photos of any of the poblacion or plaza complex of any of the Cebu towns?

Bernie, i think Kamagayan was the central station. in fact, prostitution reportedly proliferated in the area during the heyday of the trains (and even until now) because all trains would stop here before going to the depot. ergo, all passengers would get off here to change trains or to spend the night.

i noticed while i was still studying abroad that central stations tend to house a lot of people who stay overnight if they have nowhere to go. perhaps mao ni ang reason we have prostituted women---para makapawala sa laay pagkagabii...while waiting for the early morning train...hahaha.

Daw..... mao'rag Junquera kaniadto? :lol:

Bernie, i think Kamagayan was the central station. in fact, prostitution reportedly proliferated in the area during the heyday of the trains (and even until now) because all trains would stop here before going to the depot. ergo, all passengers would get off here to change trains or to spend the night.

i noticed while i was still studying abroad that central stations tend to house a lot of people who stay overnight if they have nowhere to go. perhaps mao ni ang reason we have prostituted women---para makapawala sa laay pagkagabii...while waiting for the early morning train...hahaha.

Daw..... mao'rag Junquera kaniadto? :lol:

!!!!!!!

@harveharve,

My paternal greatgranddad is there!!! Where did u get this list? Wa gyuy nakahibawo niini sa amo-a. Pirme lang misteryoso kaayo...

thank you...
Ang Pu'ang Abat
:)


Gi-compile ni siya over a period of years, from the early 30's up the 60's daw and was finally computerized in the mid 90's for our clan's grand reunion then...

!!!!!!!

@harveharve,

My paternal greatgranddad is there!!! Where did u get this list? Wa gyuy nakahibawo niini sa amo-a. Pirme lang misteryoso kaayo...

thank you...
Ang Pu'ang Abat
:)


Gi-compile ni siya over a period of years, from the early 30's up the 60's daw and was finally computerized in the mid 90's for our clan's grand reunion then...

@HarveHarve
@Archaeologue


SO the Governor's Palace was at the same axis as the monument.. If I'm not mistaken, that's currently a vacant lot right now? The one near DFA?

mao ni siya noh?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/Old_Photos/new_paradeinfrontoftheoldprovincial.jpg

@HarveHarve
@Archaeologue


SO the Governor's Palace was at the same axis as the monument.. If I'm not mistaken, that's currently a vacant lot right now? The one near DFA?

mao ni siya noh?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/Old_Photos/new_paradeinfrontoftheoldprovincial.jpg

@HarveHarve
@Archaeologue


SO the Governor's Palace was at the same axis as the monument.. If I'm not mistaken, that's currently a vacant lot right now? The one near DFA?

mao ni siya noh?





yes Arnold, this is the one. this building, formally called the Casa Gobierno General de Visayas, was designed by Ramon la Hermosa as indicated in an 1876 plan of the structure now in the Bibliotica E.T.S. de Ingenieros de Caminos, Canales y Puertos (BETSICCP) in Madrid.

@HarveHarve
@Archaeologue


SO the Governor's Palace was at the same axis as the monument.. If I'm not mistaken, that's currently a vacant lot right now? The one near DFA?

mao ni siya noh?





yes Arnold, this is the one. this building, formally called the Casa Gobierno General de Visayas, was designed by Ramon la Hermosa as indicated in an 1876 plan of the structure now in the Bibliotica E.T.S. de Ingenieros de Caminos, Canales y Puertos (BETSICCP) in Madrid.

I hope that the next mayor of Cebu will revive the downtown revitalization project :(

At least we'll have our own version of a heritage district like those in Macau and Shanghai (The Bund).

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/hurtyp/CebuCebuheritageboardwalk2.jpg

I hope that the next mayor of Cebu will revive the downtown revitalization project :(

At least we'll have our own version of a heritage district like those in Macau and Shanghai (The Bund).

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/hurtyp/CebuCebuheritageboardwalk2.jpg

@archaeologue

Thanks for the info, found this in www.aenet.org

http://www.aenet.org/manila-expo/p24ima3.jpg

@archaeologue

Thanks for the info, found this in www.aenet.org

http://www.aenet.org/manila-expo/p24ima3.jpg

I think Jose Mari Chan also has another business down south Cebu, pero I'm not sure and I forgot what it was.

AC Steel

I think Jose Mari Chan also has another business down south Cebu, pero I'm not sure and I forgot what it was.

AC Steel

Below are photos of the Carcar Train Station, posted by @Kentaro in the previous CHW Thread,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg

This lot was recently sold to a politician from Luzon. The area is now fenced. The previous owners made diggings in search of Yamashita treasures "kuno", they found nothing but mud.

Below are photos of the Carcar Train Station, posted by @Kentaro in the previous CHW Thread,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg

This lot was recently sold to a politician from Luzon. The area is now fenced. The previous owners made diggings in search of Yamashita treasures "kuno", they found nothing but mud.

@ Archaeologue:

These are the only ones I have as of the moment at 300dpi, i lost the original scans long ago, these are but copies of copes :ohno:
arnold's palacio provincial is much better. 1910-1920 i suppose judging by the cars.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/carcelcebu.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/govpalacecebu.jpg

i'm still looking around for other views of the carcel

@ Archaeologue:

These are the only ones I have as of the moment at 300dpi, i lost the original scans long ago, these are but copies of copes :ohno:
arnold's palacio provincial is much better. 1910-1920 i suppose judging by the cars.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/carcelcebu.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/govpalacecebu.jpg

i'm still looking around for other views of the carcel

@archaeologue

Thanks for the info, found this in www.aenet.org

http://www.aenet.org/manila-expo/p24ima3.jpg


yup...this the one i am referring to. It's from the book "Manila 1571-1998 The Western Orient", a thick book accompanying the Phil. centennial exhibit in Spain of Spanish public works projects in the former colony.

@archaeologue

Thanks for the info, found this in www.aenet.org

http://www.aenet.org/manila-expo/p24ima3.jpg


yup...this the one i am referring to. It's from the book "Manila 1571-1998 The Western Orient", a thick book accompanying the Phil. centennial exhibit in Spain of Spanish public works projects in the former colony.

@ Archaeologue:

These are the only ones I have as of the moment at 300dpi, i lost the original scans long ago, these are but copies of copes :ohno:
arnold's palacio provincial is much better. 1910-1920 i suppose judging by the cars.

i'm still looking around for other views of the carcel


harve, the 300 dpi scans will do. i've saved them na. thanks...but where are the originals?

@ Archaeologue:

These are the only ones I have as of the moment at 300dpi, i lost the original scans long ago, these are but copies of copes :ohno:
arnold's palacio provincial is much better. 1910-1920 i suppose judging by the cars.

i'm still looking around for other views of the carcel


harve, the 300 dpi scans will do. i've saved them na. thanks...but where are the originals?

photos: RV Escatron

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/32/photos/102/500x500/21/60410024.JPG?et=0EFJEky%2C9bXVnwkBKWD2XQ
behind the Cebu City Hall (the building's name escapes me now...)


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/25/photos/102/500x500/24/60410028.JPG?et=PNABQ84LulFRiyxc6sd74A
abandoned warehouse near Malacanang sa Sugbu


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/23/photos/102/500x500/17/60410017.JPG?et=FYhvL4pOhneOzi%2Cp86zPyw
bunal Noy! bunal


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/7/60410006.JPG?et=CKyA81%2Bh9JfvkEstqxh47g
Oriente Cinema in Colon St.


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/22/60410025.JPG?et=hqoyVCk8bGmcTX64FASLJA
Eddie's Log Cabin


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/12/photos/102/500x500/10/60410010.JPG?et=IbduBDlRskuGPk6mm2ltwg
from the Freedom Park (facing USJ-R)


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/11/photos/102/500x500/34/60410038.JPG?et=Q4e7Ic47QNyJtaDAQi87Mg
Chinese House along Manalili St.


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/8/60410007.JPG?et=pWIvAS2whw1euQpi4ZbX1w
Vision Theatre, Colon St.

photos: RV Escatron

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/32/photos/102/500x500/21/60410024.JPG?et=0EFJEky%2C9bXVnwkBKWD2XQ
behind the Cebu City Hall (the building's name escapes me now...)


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/25/photos/102/500x500/24/60410028.JPG?et=PNABQ84LulFRiyxc6sd74A
abandoned warehouse near Malacanang sa Sugbu


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/23/photos/102/500x500/17/60410017.JPG?et=FYhvL4pOhneOzi%2Cp86zPyw
bunal Noy! bunal


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/7/60410006.JPG?et=CKyA81%2Bh9JfvkEstqxh47g
Oriente Cinema in Colon St.


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/22/60410025.JPG?et=hqoyVCk8bGmcTX64FASLJA
Eddie's Log Cabin


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/12/photos/102/500x500/10/60410010.JPG?et=IbduBDlRskuGPk6mm2ltwg
from the Freedom Park (facing USJ-R)


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/11/photos/102/500x500/34/60410038.JPG?et=Q4e7Ic47QNyJtaDAQi87Mg
Chinese House along Manalili St.


http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/8/60410007.JPG?et=pWIvAS2whw1euQpi4ZbX1w
Vision Theatre, Colon St.

harve, the 300 dpi scans will do. i've saved them na. thanks...but where are the originals?


they were from an old publication, white ang cover adto niya... i forgot the title, i'll check my other pc

harve, the 300 dpi scans will do. i've saved them na. thanks...but where are the originals?


they were from an old publication, white ang cover adto niya... i forgot the title, i'll check my other pc

photos: RV Escatron

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/7/60410006.JPG?et=CKyA81%2Bh9JfvkEstqxh47g
Oriente Cinema in Colon St.



Hey! It's the Teatro Junquera! :banana: hehe

photos: RV Escatron

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/7/60410006.JPG?et=CKyA81%2Bh9JfvkEstqxh47g
Oriente Cinema in Colon St.



Hey! It's the Teatro Junquera! :banana: hehe

^^

Now i'm not sure if you're interested in architecture but i'd like to ask if teatro junquera is Art-Deco? I'm kinda interested in it man gud (art-deco buildings), hehe.

Anyway, pIrena said that he's been inside to Vision Theater already and he said that there are paintings on the wall, a grand staircase, etc..etc.. Medyo delicado man cguro isulod didto pero I hope that we can go there, kanang daghan ta say 5-6..




http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/22/60410025.JPG?et=hqoyVCk8bGmcTX64FASLJA


Thanks for the photos scott. Keep them coming. Now you have given me an idea on what to do with a lampara, hehehe..



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg
This lot was recently sold to a politician from Luzon. The area is now fenced. The previous owners made diggings in search of Yamashita treasures "kuno", they found nothing but mud.


Asa ni dapita sa carcar?

Could this be what Panublion (http://www.admu.edu.ph/offices/mirlab/panublion/r7_carcar.html) is referring to?

On the same hill as the church are American period buildings: a school and a clinic on a hill. Both are decorated with gingerbread cutout in the manner of Victorian houses. At the foot of the hill is a small plaza decorated with statues. A number of old houses are found at the foot of the hill. Off the población is an abandoned railway station, a terminus of the Cebu-Carcar line.



..

^^

Now i'm not sure if you're interested in architecture but i'd like to ask if teatro junquera is Art-Deco? I'm kinda interested in it man gud (art-deco buildings), hehe.

Anyway, pIrena said that he's been inside to Vision Theater already and he said that there are paintings on the wall, a grand staircase, etc..etc.. Medyo delicado man cguro isulod didto pero I hope that we can go there, kanang daghan ta say 5-6..




http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/13/photos/102/500x500/22/60410025.JPG?et=hqoyVCk8bGmcTX64FASLJA


Thanks for the photos scott. Keep them coming. Now you have given me an idea on what to do with a lampara, hehehe..



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This lot was recently sold to a politician from Luzon. The area is now fenced. The previous owners made diggings in search of Yamashita treasures "kuno", they found nothing but mud.


Asa ni dapita sa carcar?

Could this be what Panublion (http://www.admu.edu.ph/offices/mirlab/panublion/r7_carcar.html) is referring to?

On the same hill as the church are American period buildings: a school and a clinic on a hill. Both are decorated with gingerbread cutout in the manner of Victorian houses. At the foot of the hill is a small plaza decorated with statues. A number of old houses are found at the foot of the hill. Off the población is an abandoned railway station, a terminus of the Cebu-Carcar line.



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Do you have a list of the Royalist? The only last name that belongs to my family tree are the Abellanas and Climacos. :)


Here's a short list of known royalists who were either voluntarios locales and/or tenientes del barrios and some spanish priests:

TRAITORS:
Apolinario Alcuitas (Carcar)
kapitan Florencio Noel (Tan Insyong)
Timoteo Barcenilla
kapitan Kadyo Jaen
kapitan Jacinto Velez
kapitan Simeon Paras
Mariano Alfafara

PRIESTS:
Father Tomas Gimenez (El Pardo)
parish priest of San Nicolas, Fray Pedro Medina,
parish priest of Talisay, Fr. Valerio Rodrigo
parish priest of Carcar, Fray Emiliano Diez
parish priest of Argao, Fr. Antolin Frias
parish priest of Cordoba, Fray Jose Baztan (Executed in town plaza)
TEACHERS:
cartilla teacher maestro Mariano Crisologo

TIPSTER:
teniente Januario Gabrillo of Basak, San Nicolas
(instead of being released as promised, he was tortured and subsequently died from his wounds on March 21, 1898)

pro-Spanish Tagalog who served as a spy, Crispulo Valderrama (arrested during the retaking of the City on April 5th)
Raymundo Jurado(executed by spanish reinforcements)
Jose Abelgas from Carcar(executed by spanish reinforcements).
a woman informer of Labangon
a certain Potenciana from Pardo


VOLUNTARIOS LOCALES/PRO-SPANISH OFFICIALS/PRO-SPANISH LOCALS:
(Nota Bene: Most of the voluntarios locales shifted sides when all was lost for the Spaniards, some were actually in connivance with the Katipunan to shoot above their heads when firefights started)

Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Aguedo Batobalonos
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).

Do you have a list of the Royalist? The only last name that belongs to my family tree are the Abellanas and Climacos. :)


Here's a short list of known royalists who were either voluntarios locales and/or tenientes del barrios and some spanish priests:

TRAITORS:
Apolinario Alcuitas (Carcar)
kapitan Florencio Noel (Tan Insyong)
Timoteo Barcenilla
kapitan Kadyo Jaen
kapitan Jacinto Velez
kapitan Simeon Paras
Mariano Alfafara

PRIESTS:
Father Tomas Gimenez (El Pardo)
parish priest of San Nicolas, Fray Pedro Medina,
parish priest of Talisay, Fr. Valerio Rodrigo
parish priest of Carcar, Fray Emiliano Diez
parish priest of Argao, Fr. Antolin Frias
parish priest of Cordoba, Fray Jose Baztan (Executed in town plaza)
TEACHERS:
cartilla teacher maestro Mariano Crisologo

TIPSTER:
teniente Januario Gabrillo of Basak, San Nicolas
(instead of being released as promised, he was tortured and subsequently died from his wounds on March 21, 1898)

pro-Spanish Tagalog who served as a spy, Crispulo Valderrama (arrested during the retaking of the City on April 5th)
Raymundo Jurado(executed by spanish reinforcements)
Jose Abelgas from Carcar(executed by spanish reinforcements).
a woman informer of Labangon
a certain Potenciana from Pardo


VOLUNTARIOS LOCALES/PRO-SPANISH OFFICIALS/PRO-SPANISH LOCALS:
(Nota Bene: Most of the voluntarios locales shifted sides when all was lost for the Spaniards, some were actually in connivance with the Katipunan to shoot above their heads when firefights started)

Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Aguedo Batobalonos
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).

@Archaeologue:

Another element katipuneros felt they needed was the Philippine flag, the symbol of their nationhood. According to one source, Manila's KKK had spelled out the exact measurements and design of the flag in their regular letters to Cebu katipuneros.

Ambrocio Peña, known by the leaders as a secret follower of the movement, was then ordered to produce it. He in turn contacted three women - Mauricia Gahuman, Buena Ricardo and Justina Peña - to make the flag. Weeks later, a courier from Punta Princesa delivered it to Sudlon where it was raised near their headquarters.

Immediately after its arrival, some 300 katipuneros took their oath in front of it. All those who came to Sudlon would also take their oaths administered by Flores and other top officers. Those who could not come to Sudlon took the same oath before their officers, swearing their commitment to the struggle for independence.



I wonder what ever happened to this flag... do you have any idea what ever happened to it? A trophy for the Americans? I would love to look at it one day if it still exists... hayyy

@Archaeologue:

Another element katipuneros felt they needed was the Philippine flag, the symbol of their nationhood. According to one source, Manila's KKK had spelled out the exact measurements and design of the flag in their regular letters to Cebu katipuneros.

Ambrocio Peña, known by the leaders as a secret follower of the movement, was then ordered to produce it. He in turn contacted three women - Mauricia Gahuman, Buena Ricardo and Justina Peña - to make the flag. Weeks later, a courier from Punta Princesa delivered it to Sudlon where it was raised near their headquarters.

Immediately after its arrival, some 300 katipuneros took their oath in front of it. All those who came to Sudlon would also take their oaths administered by Flores and other top officers. Those who could not come to Sudlon took the same oath before their officers, swearing their commitment to the struggle for independence.



I wonder what ever happened to this flag... do you have any idea what ever happened to it? A trophy for the Americans? I would love to look at it one day if it still exists... hayyy

@Arnold:

There used to be a train station somewhere in Talisay, near Pooc, it was still in existence a few years back but was torn down because the barangay captain did not want it to be coverted into a museum. If you're coming from the city it should be on the right side, the only thing you can see now would be the cement floor. I'll take a photo of it soon next time i'm in Talisay.

@Arnold:

There used to be a train station somewhere in Talisay, near Pooc, it was still in existence a few years back but was torn down because the barangay captain did not want it to be coverted into a museum. If you're coming from the city it should be on the right side, the only thing you can see now would be the cement floor. I'll take a photo of it soon next time i'm in Talisay.

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Thanks for the info..Do please take a photo of it and post it here.. Hehe..

^^

Thanks for the info..Do please take a photo of it and post it here.. Hehe..

^^

Asa ni dapita sa carcar?

Could this be what Panublion (http://www.admu.edu.ph/offices/mirlab/panublion/r7_carcar.html) is referring to?

On the same hill as the church are American period buildings: a school and a clinic on a hill. Both are decorated with gingerbread cutout in the manner of Victorian houses. At the foot of the hill is a small plaza decorated with statues. A number of old houses are found at the foot of the hill. Off the población is an abandoned railway station, a terminus of the Cebu-Carcar line.

F. Noel St., at the foot of the hill, back of the church.

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Asa ni dapita sa carcar?

Could this be what Panublion (http://www.admu.edu.ph/offices/mirlab/panublion/r7_carcar.html) is referring to?

On the same hill as the church are American period buildings: a school and a clinic on a hill. Both are decorated with gingerbread cutout in the manner of Victorian houses. At the foot of the hill is a small plaza decorated with statues. A number of old houses are found at the foot of the hill. Off the población is an abandoned railway station, a terminus of the Cebu-Carcar line.

F. Noel St., at the foot of the hill, back of the church.

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/25/photos/102/500x500/24/60410028.JPG?et=PNABQ84LulFRiyxc6sd74A
abandoned warehouse near Malacanang sa Sugbu




Is this not the old Compañia Maritima building, the very one we are recommending to be converted fittingly into a maritime museum?

http://images.rv5167.multiply.com/image/25/photos/102/500x500/24/60410028.JPG?et=PNABQ84LulFRiyxc6sd74A
abandoned warehouse near Malacanang sa Sugbu




Is this not the old Compañia Maritima building, the very one we are recommending to be converted fittingly into a maritime museum?

F. Noel St., at the foot of the hill, back of the church.

There appears to be another train station somewhere before Valladolid. Carcar along the highway where one finds the acacia trees...it's been made into some kind of eatery or store. Sorry I have never taken photos of it but next time I pass by, I will try to get one.

F. Noel St., at the foot of the hill, back of the church.

There appears to be another train station somewhere before Valladolid. Carcar along the highway where one finds the acacia trees...it's been made into some kind of eatery or store. Sorry I have never taken photos of it but next time I pass by, I will try to get one.

quite OT, my apologies...

i know this is not samahan but may i just say HI to sir joebers. Sir, this is DIV VITANCOR aka dive-cebu. don't know if you still remember me but i was working before with SSRC, under lourdes montenegro. im so glad that you've joined this forum as what ive read from your CDN article. hope you will stay active in ssc, esp here in cebu heritage walk thread.

quite OT, my apologies...

i know this is not samahan but may i just say HI to sir joebers. Sir, this is DIV VITANCOR aka dive-cebu. don't know if you still remember me but i was working before with SSRC, under lourdes montenegro. im so glad that you've joined this forum as what ive read from your CDN article. hope you will stay active in ssc, esp here in cebu heritage walk thread.