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Ka_Bino
March 27th, 2009, 01:29 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

Ka_Bino
March 27th, 2009, 01:29 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

gee
March 27th, 2009, 02:29 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

moapil siya sa mga discussions dinhi? di ba siya man ng chairman of the committee on tourism sa cebu city council?

gee
March 27th, 2009, 02:29 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

moapil siya sa mga discussions dinhi? di ba siya man ng chairman of the committee on tourism sa cebu city council?

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 02:35 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

kana si konsehal, apo sad na sa mga rebolusyonaryo hehe I hope he'll see the reality on the ground as to what has happened to that area... daghan rabang Pacaña nga Sanicolasnon ug Taga-Labangon na ni-apil sa kagubot...

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 02:35 PM
i will forward this link to Konsihal Pax Pacaña

kana si konsehal, apo sad na sa mga rebolusyonaryo hehe I hope he'll see the reality on the ground as to what has happened to that area... daghan rabang Pacaña nga Sanicolasnon ug Taga-Labangon na ni-apil sa kagubot...

gee
March 27th, 2009, 03:24 PM
kana si konsehal, apo sad na sa mga rebolusyonaryo hehe I hope he'll see the reality on the ground as to what has happened to that area... daghan rabang Pacaña nga Sanicolasnon ug Taga-Labangon na ni-apil sa kagubot...

@harveharve, dili ba ang termino nga gigamit sa mga Cebuano sa pag-refer niining panghitabo dili man "Rebolusyon" kundili "Kagubot" ... sa ako pong tan-aw (pero dili pod mageneralize) mora ug away ni between North (voluntarios leales nga taga parian, ciudad) and South (katipunero nga taga-san nicolas, labangon) .. pila ra kaha kabook ang mga katsila nga sundalo nga niapil ani?

gee
March 27th, 2009, 03:24 PM
kana si konsehal, apo sad na sa mga rebolusyonaryo hehe I hope he'll see the reality on the ground as to what has happened to that area... daghan rabang Pacaña nga Sanicolasnon ug Taga-Labangon na ni-apil sa kagubot...

@harveharve, dili ba ang termino nga gigamit sa mga Cebuano sa pag-refer niining panghitabo dili man "Rebolusyon" kundili "Kagubot" ... sa ako pong tan-aw (pero dili pod mageneralize) mora ug away ni between North (voluntarios leales nga taga parian, ciudad) and South (katipunero nga taga-san nicolas, labangon) .. pila ra kaha kabook ang mga katsila nga sundalo nga niapil ani?

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 04:25 PM
^^^^
I usually mix up the two... hehehe my bad... I don't know if it's proper to use the term "revolution" ...

If memory serves, I read something about the animosity between the mestizo principalias of Parian - Lutao and the indio principalias of San Nicolas (with Labangon). I think it was from Michael Cullinane's book ummm Ecomonics something... hehe it was so long ago since I picked it up...

The principalias of Cebu Viejo - San Nicolas were not too fond of the idea that their casa tribunal fronting the San Nicolas church was taken over by the ciudad while that in the much more affluent Parian district was not...

Even in the mid 1800s there was an uprising (from the south nasad. mga samokan ang taga-south no? hehe:lol:) because cows owned by a certain Parian principalia often got out of their corral and devastated the crops of that Sanicolasnon principalia, then the priest (or was it a governor) intervened and the uprising was quelled.

Methinks that the Parian principalia more often than not sided with the government because of lineage i.e. Sangley marrying into a Peninsulare eventually making them mestizo...while those in the south were more or less indios and belonged to the lower social ladder...

Now that you've mentioned it, ukayon gyud nako ang books sa akong dad! hahaha pangitaon ko to nga book:nuts:

Gamay ra na Katsila nangapil on the side of the government, a bulk of them were non-commissioned and commissioned officers while the rest were voluntarios.

The known voluntarios locales, pro-spanish native officials and pro-spanish principalis
Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment (the bulk of those who actually did the fighting for the spanish)
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).


gamay ra katsila...

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 04:25 PM
^^^^
I usually mix up the two... hehehe my bad... I don't know if it's proper to use the term "revolution" ...

If memory serves, I read something about the animosity between the mestizo principalias of Parian - Lutao and the indio principalias of San Nicolas (with Labangon). I think it was from Michael Cullinane's book ummm Ecomonics something... hehe it was so long ago since I picked it up...

The principalias of Cebu Viejo - San Nicolas were not too fond of the idea that their casa tribunal fronting the San Nicolas church was taken over by the ciudad while that in the much more affluent Parian district was not...

Even in the mid 1800s there was an uprising (from the south nasad. mga samokan ang taga-south no? hehe:lol:) because cows owned by a certain Parian principalia often got out of their corral and devastated the crops of that Sanicolasnon principalia, then the priest (or was it a governor) intervened and the uprising was quelled.

Methinks that the Parian principalia more often than not sided with the government because of lineage i.e. Sangley marrying into a Peninsulare eventually making them mestizo...while those in the south were more or less indios and belonged to the lower social ladder...

Now that you've mentioned it, ukayon gyud nako ang books sa akong dad! hahaha pangitaon ko to nga book:nuts:

Gamay ra na Katsila nangapil on the side of the government, a bulk of them were non-commissioned and commissioned officers while the rest were voluntarios.

The known voluntarios locales, pro-spanish native officials and pro-spanish principalis
Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment (the bulk of those who actually did the fighting for the spanish)
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).


gamay ra katsila...

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 04:46 PM
scihi The Force is indeed strong with my paisano... ;)
@Sir Jobers:
Really?!?! That's great!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: thank you! thank you! it's just something nga kaming mga idealistic sa Labangon, Sn. Nicolas, Calamba nga descendants sa mga rebolusyonaros, who still remember, want to see a more suitable edifice to immortalize their sacrifice. Labangon & San Nicolas. Now these are 2 memorable places. ;) ;) My greatgrandpa was born in San Nicolas & is on that list... :pepper:

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 04:46 PM
scihi The Force is indeed strong with my paisano... ;)
@Sir Jobers:
Really?!?! That's great!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: thank you! thank you! it's just something nga kaming mga idealistic sa Labangon, Sn. Nicolas, Calamba nga descendants sa mga rebolusyonaros, who still remember, want to see a more suitable edifice to immortalize their sacrifice. Labangon & San Nicolas. Now these are 2 memorable places. ;) ;) My greatgrandpa was born in San Nicolas & is on that list... :pepper:

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:06 PM
The Force is indeed strong with my paisano... ;)
Labangon & San Nicolas. Now these are 2 memorable places. ;) ;) My greatgrandpa was born in San Nicolas & is on that list... :pepper:

scihi pod diay ka @ Mercato?

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:06 PM
The Force is indeed strong with my paisano... ;)
Labangon & San Nicolas. Now these are 2 memorable places. ;) ;) My greatgrandpa was born in San Nicolas & is on that list... :pepper:

scihi pod diay ka @ Mercato?

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:20 PM
^^^^
I usually mix up the two... hehehe my bad... I don't know if it's proper to use the term "revolution" ...

If memory serves, I read something about the animosity between the mestizo principalias of Parian - Lutao and the indio principalias of San Nicolas (with Labangon). I think it was from Michael Cullinane's book ummm Ecomonics something... hehe it was so long ago since I picked it up...

The principalias of Cebu Viejo - San Nicolas were not too fond of the idea that their casa tribunal fronting the San Nicolas church was taken over by the ciudad while that in the much more affluent Parian district was not...

Even in the mid 1800s there was an uprising (from the south nasad. mga samokan ang taga-south no? hehe:lol:) because cows owned by a certain Parian principalia often got out of their corral and devastated the crops of that Sanicolasnon principalia, then the priest (or was it a governor) intervened and the uprising was quelled.

Methinks that the Parian principalia more often than not sided with the government because of lineage i.e. Sangley marrying into a Peninsulare eventually making them mestizo...while those in the south were more or less indios and belonged to the lower social ladder...

Now that you've mentioned it, ukayon gyud nako ang books sa akong dad! hahaha pangitaon ko to nga book:nuts:

Gamay ra na Katsila nangapil on the side of the government, a bulk of them were non-commissioned and commissioned officers while the rest were voluntarios.

The known voluntarios locales, pro-spanish native officials and pro-spanish principalis
Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment (the bulk of those who actually did the fighting for the spanish)
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).


gamay ra katsila...



Loyalty and Dislocation: Elite Response to Rebellion

The response of Cebu's elite to the news of the Tagalog rebellion of August 1896 was immediate and enthusiastic support for the Spanish colonial government, based initially on what appears to have been genuine loyalty and only later on a spreading fear of Spanish repression. The city's aristocracy generously donated money to the Spanish cause, and almost all its young men turned out for the newly organized Loyal Volunteers (Voluntarios Leales), a local militia created at first to protect the province from the internal threat of Tagalog-inspired subversives and rebels, and later to serve as a home guard against an impending external invasion by the "treacherous" Americans. During the early years of unrest in Luzon, life in Cebu seems to have gone on normally.

In the latter part of 1897 and in early 1898 the seeds of rebellion were sown in Cebu, primarily among low level urban bureaucrats, some discontented principalia of the municipalities near the city (particularly San Nicolas), a large part of the urban labour force, and numerous tenants, small landholders and landless peasants. On 3 April 1898, the long loyalty of the Cebuanos to Spanish rule ended abruptly in a violent outbreak in San Nicolas that quickly spread into the city and down the south coast. For four days the rebels, who were led by a charismatic leader with alleged Katipunan contacts and supernatural attributes, held sway over the city, while the Spanish community and many of its aristocratic supporters were confined to the fort, Santo Nino convent, and Seminary. When Spanish reinforcements arrived, they drove the rebels into the hills after a bloody encounter. For several days after the Spanish retook the city, bodies of hundreds of dead rebels and citizens caught in the fighting were burned in large open fires around the city and in San Nicolas. Commerce came to a halt and Cebu became a dismal, chaotic city whose remaining inhabitants lived in fear of returning rebels and revenge-seeking Spanish. The tranquil life of colonial Cebu had come to an end.

Although most of the city's aristocracy survived the rebellion and its bloody aftermath, the events of April surely left most of them stunned and confused. Many families fled from the city to live on their provincial lands, others took refuge in their homes, afraid to leave and forced to survive as best they could. Although the Spanish-American War spread to the Philippines in May 1898 and Manila fell to the Americans several months later, Cebu continued to be ruled by a paranoiac Spanish general until the end of December.

When the Spanish departed in December, leaving the city and province to a small clique of hand-picked urban aristocrats, an uneasy peace prevailed. In February 1899 the Cebu leadership affiliated with the Philippine Republic and awaited the next move of the Americans. Even the elite seemed inclined to resist the invader, for the Spanish had apparently conducted a vigorous anti-American propaganda campaign. In late February an American gunboat appeared and presented the ruling clique with a simple ultimatum: surrender the city or prepare for war. Within 24 hours the Cebu elite, acting in character, decided to surrender. A small detachment of United States Marines landed, raised their flag, and American rule began in Cebu.

from: Michael Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite in the 19th Century, p. 281

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:20 PM
^^^^
I usually mix up the two... hehehe my bad... I don't know if it's proper to use the term "revolution" ...

If memory serves, I read something about the animosity between the mestizo principalias of Parian - Lutao and the indio principalias of San Nicolas (with Labangon). I think it was from Michael Cullinane's book ummm Ecomonics something... hehe it was so long ago since I picked it up...

The principalias of Cebu Viejo - San Nicolas were not too fond of the idea that their casa tribunal fronting the San Nicolas church was taken over by the ciudad while that in the much more affluent Parian district was not...

Even in the mid 1800s there was an uprising (from the south nasad. mga samokan ang taga-south no? hehe:lol:) because cows owned by a certain Parian principalia often got out of their corral and devastated the crops of that Sanicolasnon principalia, then the priest (or was it a governor) intervened and the uprising was quelled.

Methinks that the Parian principalia more often than not sided with the government because of lineage i.e. Sangley marrying into a Peninsulare eventually making them mestizo...while those in the south were more or less indios and belonged to the lower social ladder...

Now that you've mentioned it, ukayon gyud nako ang books sa akong dad! hahaha pangitaon ko to nga book:nuts:

Gamay ra na Katsila nangapil on the side of the government, a bulk of them were non-commissioned and commissioned officers while the rest were voluntarios.

The known voluntarios locales, pro-spanish native officials and pro-spanish principalis
Tagalogs of the 73rd regiment (the bulk of those who actually did the fighting for the spanish)
capitan municipal Francisco Rodriguez, the former cuadrillo chief
Cesario Mendoza, the capitan municipal of Mandaue
Angel Libre
Jose Rodriguez
Francisco Villaester
Juan Climaco
Captain Revilla, chief of the local volunteers of Cebu
Remigio Gutierres, registrar of Cebu
Sgt. Claudio Gomez
Fidel Moa
Pedro Royo
a certain Cuito
Eduardo Lopez
Florentino Rallos
Francisco del Mar
Francisco Sales
Arsenio Climaco
Manuel Roa
Jose Ocampo
Juan Borres
Esteban Manuel
Angel Iriarte
Jose Atillano
Eduardo Lopez
Manuel Maldonado
Apolinar Kabilbil
Godofredo Lago
Simeon Padriga
Pedro Sanson
Juan Borres
Raymundo Enriquez (father of Manuel Enriquez de la Calzada).


gamay ra katsila...



Loyalty and Dislocation: Elite Response to Rebellion

The response of Cebu's elite to the news of the Tagalog rebellion of August 1896 was immediate and enthusiastic support for the Spanish colonial government, based initially on what appears to have been genuine loyalty and only later on a spreading fear of Spanish repression. The city's aristocracy generously donated money to the Spanish cause, and almost all its young men turned out for the newly organized Loyal Volunteers (Voluntarios Leales), a local militia created at first to protect the province from the internal threat of Tagalog-inspired subversives and rebels, and later to serve as a home guard against an impending external invasion by the "treacherous" Americans. During the early years of unrest in Luzon, life in Cebu seems to have gone on normally.

In the latter part of 1897 and in early 1898 the seeds of rebellion were sown in Cebu, primarily among low level urban bureaucrats, some discontented principalia of the municipalities near the city (particularly San Nicolas), a large part of the urban labour force, and numerous tenants, small landholders and landless peasants. On 3 April 1898, the long loyalty of the Cebuanos to Spanish rule ended abruptly in a violent outbreak in San Nicolas that quickly spread into the city and down the south coast. For four days the rebels, who were led by a charismatic leader with alleged Katipunan contacts and supernatural attributes, held sway over the city, while the Spanish community and many of its aristocratic supporters were confined to the fort, Santo Nino convent, and Seminary. When Spanish reinforcements arrived, they drove the rebels into the hills after a bloody encounter. For several days after the Spanish retook the city, bodies of hundreds of dead rebels and citizens caught in the fighting were burned in large open fires around the city and in San Nicolas. Commerce came to a halt and Cebu became a dismal, chaotic city whose remaining inhabitants lived in fear of returning rebels and revenge-seeking Spanish. The tranquil life of colonial Cebu had come to an end.

Although most of the city's aristocracy survived the rebellion and its bloody aftermath, the events of April surely left most of them stunned and confused. Many families fled from the city to live on their provincial lands, others took refuge in their homes, afraid to leave and forced to survive as best they could. Although the Spanish-American War spread to the Philippines in May 1898 and Manila fell to the Americans several months later, Cebu continued to be ruled by a paranoiac Spanish general until the end of December.

When the Spanish departed in December, leaving the city and province to a small clique of hand-picked urban aristocrats, an uneasy peace prevailed. In February 1899 the Cebu leadership affiliated with the Philippine Republic and awaited the next move of the Americans. Even the elite seemed inclined to resist the invader, for the Spanish had apparently conducted a vigorous anti-American propaganda campaign. In late February an American gunboat appeared and presented the ruling clique with a simple ultimatum: surrender the city or prepare for war. Within 24 hours the Cebu elite, acting in character, decided to surrender. A small detachment of United States Marines landed, raised their flag, and American rule began in Cebu.

from: Michael Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite in the 19th Century, p. 281

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 05:54 PM
scihi A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away (musical score by George Lucas)... :cool: (Mr. Nacua is Jedi Master Mace Windu whilst Miss Lumayno is Minerva McGonagall, still bakes great magic cookies at Hogwarts:D)

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 05:54 PM
scihi A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away (musical score by George Lucas)... :cool: (Mr. Nacua is Jedi Master Mace Windu whilst Miss Lumayno is Minerva McGonagall, still bakes great magic cookies at Hogwarts:D)

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:58 PM
A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away (musical score by George Lucas)... :cool: (Mr. Nacua is Jedi Master Mace Windu whilst Miss Lumayno is Minerva McGonagall, still bakes great magic cookies at Hogwarts:D)

nakaabot pa ko ana nila ... part na sila CCNSHS Heritage :cheers:

gee
March 27th, 2009, 05:58 PM
A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away (musical score by George Lucas)... :cool: (Mr. Nacua is Jedi Master Mace Windu whilst Miss Lumayno is Minerva McGonagall, still bakes great magic cookies at Hogwarts:D)

nakaabot pa ko ana nila ... part na sila CCNSHS Heritage :cheers:

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM
^^ au, mag Sir Gee diay ko nimo... :colgate:

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM
^^ au, mag Sir Gee diay ko nimo... :colgate:

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Soldiers’ statues

TALISAY officials are seeking the replacement of the life-size monuments of American soldiers at the Talisay City liberation park after Rep. Eduardo Gullas (Cebu, 1st district) described them as “substandard.”

“We will discuss this in our caucus because even Sir Eddie (Gullas) has observed that the replicas of the soldiers are below
par,” said Councilor Edward Alesna, city council committee chairman on laws.

The City Council, presided by Acting Vice Mayor Alan Bucao, usually holds a caucus prior to its session every Tuesday.

A City Hall source told Sun.Star Cebu that Jewens Construction, the project contractor, has tapped the services of a sculptor-artist from Lapu-Lapu City for the statues at P150,000 each.

Wrong artist

The monuments, although hollow inside, are made of fiberglass to protect them from corrosion due to sea breeze and other elements.

“The contractor got the wrong artist. When you’re a house interior expert, it doesn’t mean you are also expert in landscaping, these are two different things,” the source said.

Sun.Star Cebu tried several times but failed to get the reaction of Jewens Cabase, owner of Jewens Construction.

Reports earlier said that the statue project totaled P700,000—each statue was at P100,000 each.

Each statue’s specification is that it should be seven feet tall, way below the larger-than-life figures of Gen. Douglas McArthur and US soldiers in Palo, Leyte.

Of the P6 million funding from the Department of Tourism and Philippine Tourism Authority for the project, the City reportedly got an initial release of P1 million.

Jewens Construction, the source said, has been temporarily shelling out its own funds for the monuments and the improvement of the liberation park in time for the 64th commemoration of the American Landing last Thursday.

The source said the contractor is bent on removing the statues and replacing them with the appropriate ones.

The fiberglass monuments caused a stir when they were seen in public for the first time last week.

Clad in military uniforms and helmets, the six statues of American soldiers are on concrete pedestals within a pit. They are carrying vintage rifles.

The seventh statue, which is at the center, represents an unnamed US Army general, who is carrying a white handgun that looks like a 9mm pistol—a type of gun that was not used by the US Army during World War II.

People who looked at the statues also commented that the figures had large eyes and slender bodies, which many considered inappropriate for members of the US Army.

The source said that Jewens Construction should have presented the finish product first before installing the statues.

To make the figures more presentable last Thursday, City Hall officials ordered the placing of military backpacks and belts
on the statues.

“It is not in accordance with the standard that I would like to establish to offer to the City of Talisay, and that is only the best for Talisay,” said Gullas, in his keynote speech during the American landing anniversary.

He described the monuments as “unfinished and merely embellished.” (GC)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/soldiers’-statues

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Soldiers’ statues

TALISAY officials are seeking the replacement of the life-size monuments of American soldiers at the Talisay City liberation park after Rep. Eduardo Gullas (Cebu, 1st district) described them as “substandard.”

“We will discuss this in our caucus because even Sir Eddie (Gullas) has observed that the replicas of the soldiers are below
par,” said Councilor Edward Alesna, city council committee chairman on laws.

The City Council, presided by Acting Vice Mayor Alan Bucao, usually holds a caucus prior to its session every Tuesday.

A City Hall source told Sun.Star Cebu that Jewens Construction, the project contractor, has tapped the services of a sculptor-artist from Lapu-Lapu City for the statues at P150,000 each.

Wrong artist

The monuments, although hollow inside, are made of fiberglass to protect them from corrosion due to sea breeze and other elements.

“The contractor got the wrong artist. When you’re a house interior expert, it doesn’t mean you are also expert in landscaping, these are two different things,” the source said.

Sun.Star Cebu tried several times but failed to get the reaction of Jewens Cabase, owner of Jewens Construction.

Reports earlier said that the statue project totaled P700,000—each statue was at P100,000 each.

Each statue’s specification is that it should be seven feet tall, way below the larger-than-life figures of Gen. Douglas McArthur and US soldiers in Palo, Leyte.

Of the P6 million funding from the Department of Tourism and Philippine Tourism Authority for the project, the City reportedly got an initial release of P1 million.

Jewens Construction, the source said, has been temporarily shelling out its own funds for the monuments and the improvement of the liberation park in time for the 64th commemoration of the American Landing last Thursday.

The source said the contractor is bent on removing the statues and replacing them with the appropriate ones.

The fiberglass monuments caused a stir when they were seen in public for the first time last week.

Clad in military uniforms and helmets, the six statues of American soldiers are on concrete pedestals within a pit. They are carrying vintage rifles.

The seventh statue, which is at the center, represents an unnamed US Army general, who is carrying a white handgun that looks like a 9mm pistol—a type of gun that was not used by the US Army during World War II.

People who looked at the statues also commented that the figures had large eyes and slender bodies, which many considered inappropriate for members of the US Army.

The source said that Jewens Construction should have presented the finish product first before installing the statues.

To make the figures more presentable last Thursday, City Hall officials ordered the placing of military backpacks and belts
on the statues.

“It is not in accordance with the standard that I would like to establish to offer to the City of Talisay, and that is only the best for Talisay,” said Gullas, in his keynote speech during the American landing anniversary.

He described the monuments as “unfinished and merely embellished.” (GC)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/soldiers’-statues

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:40 PM
^^ au, mag Sir Gee diay ko nimo... :colgate:

ambot lang kinsay nauna nato sa sayanshay, 88 to 92 ko didto

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:40 PM
^^ au, mag Sir Gee diay ko nimo... :colgate:

ambot lang kinsay nauna nato sa sayanshay, 88 to 92 ko didto

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:42 PM
sD_3rXn1LGo

gee
March 27th, 2009, 06:42 PM
sD_3rXn1LGo

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 07:05 PM
ambot lang kinsay nauna nato sa sayanshay, 88 to 92 ko didto Sir gee giud lagi... :colgate:

Mercato
March 27th, 2009, 07:05 PM
ambot lang kinsay nauna nato sa sayanshay, 88 to 92 ko didto Sir gee giud lagi... :colgate:

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM
@Gee & @Mercato:

kapoy ang guna sa scihi noh?:nuts: i remember my scihi friends gripe about "guna"... hehe
hmmm do i sense yearbook photos kon kinsay na una ninyong duha? hahahaha:banana:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/stories/1996CAT/CAT3.jpg
bwahahahaha (not my pic hehe)

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM
@Gee & @Mercato:

kapoy ang guna sa scihi noh?:nuts: i remember my scihi friends gripe about "guna"... hehe
hmmm do i sense yearbook photos kon kinsay na una ninyong duha? hahahaha:banana:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/stories/1996CAT/CAT3.jpg
bwahahahaha (not my pic hehe)

gee
March 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM
@Gee & @Mercato:

kapoy ang guna sa scihi noh?:nuts: i remember my scihi friends gripe about "guna"... hehe
hmmm do i sense yearbook photos kon kinsay na una ninyong duha? hahahaha:banana:

sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi, sige lang "scientific" man sab tong among pangguna kay sayans hay gud heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg

gee
March 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM
@Gee & @Mercato:

kapoy ang guna sa scihi noh?:nuts: i remember my scihi friends gripe about "guna"... hehe
hmmm do i sense yearbook photos kon kinsay na una ninyong duha? hahahaha:banana:

sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi, sige lang "scientific" man sab tong among pangguna kay sayans hay gud heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 07:54 PM
sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg
^^^^
hahaha paet ba ana oi! ug sa inyong panahon, magpa-certify dayon taga scihi sa akong amahan na naka-tree planting na aron maka-graduar hahaha:cheers:

scihi peeps used to come in droves to get certifications (or was it an affidavit) hahaha those were the days:lol: maybe mao na ngano sa usc boys high ko gibutang haha (malakaw ra baya ang scihi sa amu-a) :lol:

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 07:54 PM
sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg
^^^^
hahaha paet ba ana oi! ug sa inyong panahon, magpa-certify dayon taga scihi sa akong amahan na naka-tree planting na aron maka-graduar hahaha:cheers:

scihi peeps used to come in droves to get certifications (or was it an affidavit) hahaha those were the days:lol: maybe mao na ngano sa usc boys high ko gibutang haha (malakaw ra baya ang scihi sa amu-a) :lol:

gee
March 27th, 2009, 07:57 PM
^^^^
hahaha paet ba ana oi! ug sa inyong panahon, magpa-certify dayon taga scihi sa akong amahan na naka-tree planting na aron maka-graduar hahaha:cheers:

scihi peeps used to come in droves to get certifications (or was it an affidavit) hahaha those were the days:lol: maybe mao na ngano sa usc boys high ko gibutang haha (malakaw ra baya ang scihi sa amu-a) :lol:

wala na ko kaabot ana! basin sauna pa gyud na o after na nigraduate ko!:ohno:

gee
March 27th, 2009, 07:57 PM
^^^^
hahaha paet ba ana oi! ug sa inyong panahon, magpa-certify dayon taga scihi sa akong amahan na naka-tree planting na aron maka-graduar hahaha:cheers:

scihi peeps used to come in droves to get certifications (or was it an affidavit) hahaha those were the days:lol: maybe mao na ngano sa usc boys high ko gibutang haha (malakaw ra baya ang scihi sa amu-a) :lol:

wala na ko kaabot ana! basin sauna pa gyud na o after na nigraduate ko!:ohno:

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 08:00 PM
^^^^
Oh! hehe panahon pa to ni marcos diay ang certification requirement diay hehe pre-1987:lol: (is my age showing? hehehe)

I used to have a picture of scihi before salvador ext., was widened, mas layo paman to from the road sa una ang guardhouse, i think i lost it.. too bad walay digicam back then. I really thought guba to ang guardhouse with that ummmm mejo weird looking roof! hahaha design diay to hahaha

I can still remember mingaw pa kaayo ang salvador ext., padung banawa, now, hala, pagka-daghan na sa mga tawo!

harveharve
March 27th, 2009, 08:00 PM
^^^^
Oh! hehe panahon pa to ni marcos diay ang certification requirement diay hehe pre-1987:lol: (is my age showing? hehehe)

I used to have a picture of scihi before salvador ext., was widened, mas layo paman to from the road sa una ang guardhouse, i think i lost it.. too bad walay digicam back then. I really thought guba to ang guardhouse with that ummmm mejo weird looking roof! hahaha design diay to hahaha

I can still remember mingaw pa kaayo ang salvador ext., padung banawa, now, hala, pagka-daghan na sa mga tawo!

gee
March 27th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Prominent Landed Families in late 1800s

Argao: Lucero, Kintanar, Saniel, Ceballos, Villahermosa

Asturias: Alonzo, Delfin, Jaranilla

Barili: Abad, Causin, Alquizolas, Panares

Carcar: Barcenilla, Jaen, Sarmiento, Cui

Liloan: Pilapil, Canete, Cabatingan, Noval, Mendoza

Mandaue: Jayme

Medellin: Ancajas, Tumulac, Montesclaros, Rubio

Minglanilla: Burgos

Toledo: Climaco

San Nicolas: Pacana


Priests from landed families:

Catalino Mendoza and Ceferino Suico from Mandaue
Mario Pacana, Sancho Abadia, Ramon Abarca from San Nicolas
Angel Cabatingan, Nicolas Menoza, Eleuterio Pilapil from Liloan
Angel Tabotabo from Tuburan
Francisco Patlingrao, Diego Paras, Ismael Paras from Barili
Juan Aballe from Argao


Lawyers

Mariano Cui from Carcar
Andres Jayme and Miguel Logarta from Mandaue
Dionisio Jakosalem from Dumanjug


source:Fenner

gee
March 27th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Prominent Landed Families in late 1800s

Argao: Lucero, Kintanar, Saniel, Ceballos, Villahermosa

Asturias: Alonzo, Delfin, Jaranilla

Barili: Abad, Causin, Alquizolas, Panares

Carcar: Barcenilla, Jaen, Sarmiento, Cui

Liloan: Pilapil, Canete, Cabatingan, Noval, Mendoza

Mandaue: Jayme

Medellin: Ancajas, Tumulac, Montesclaros, Rubio

Minglanilla: Burgos

Toledo: Climaco

San Nicolas: Pacana


Priests from landed families:

Catalino Mendoza and Ceferino Suico from Mandaue
Mario Pacana, Sancho Abadia, Ramon Abarca from San Nicolas
Angel Cabatingan, Nicolas Menoza, Eleuterio Pilapil from Liloan
Angel Tabotabo from Tuburan
Francisco Patlingrao, Diego Paras, Ismael Paras from Barili
Juan Aballe from Argao


Lawyers

Mariano Cui from Carcar
Andres Jayme and Miguel Logarta from Mandaue
Dionisio Jakosalem from Dumanjug


source:Fenner

Mercato
March 28th, 2009, 06:26 AM
sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi, sige lang "scientific" man sab tong among pangguna kay sayans hay gud heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg
... and I thought it would never end, muajajaja... :lol: Sagdi lang, kay paggraduate all of us had nice gold, bronze or copper tans :pepper:
^^^^
I used to have a picture of scihi before salvador ext., was widened, mas layo paman to from the road sa una ang guardhouse, i think i lost it.. too bad walay digicam back then. I really thought guba to ang guardhouse with that ummmm mejo weird looking roof! hahaha design diay to hahaha

I can still remember mingaw pa kaayo ang salvador ext., padung banawa, now, hala, pagka-daghan na sa mga tawo!
:colgate: since I commuted from Mandaue, I'd remember Tabuan market, Miller (7th Day Adventist) Hospital, the Bible Baptist Church in that triangular corner by the highway, the elementary school of Labangon along Salvador, then if we passed around Tisa, moagi sab sa Don Bosco school. (oi kutob ra diay ko diri, no further comments your honour...) :colgate:

Mercato
March 28th, 2009, 06:26 AM
sa among panahon sayo sa buntag mangguna na mi, sige lang "scientific" man sab tong among pangguna kay sayans hay gud heeeheee:cheers:

http://www.scihi-cebu.com/cms/images/Entre2.jpg
... and I thought it would never end, muajajaja... :lol: Sagdi lang, kay paggraduate all of us had nice gold, bronze or copper tans :pepper:
^^^^
I used to have a picture of scihi before salvador ext., was widened, mas layo paman to from the road sa una ang guardhouse, i think i lost it.. too bad walay digicam back then. I really thought guba to ang guardhouse with that ummmm mejo weird looking roof! hahaha design diay to hahaha

I can still remember mingaw pa kaayo ang salvador ext., padung banawa, now, hala, pagka-daghan na sa mga tawo!
:colgate: since I commuted from Mandaue, I'd remember Tabuan market, Miller (7th Day Adventist) Hospital, the Bible Baptist Church in that triangular corner by the highway, the elementary school of Labangon along Salvador, then if we passed around Tisa, moagi sab sa Don Bosco school. (oi kutob ra diay ko diri, no further comments your honour...) :colgate:

harveharve
March 28th, 2009, 07:04 AM
^^^^
hehehe bronzed and tanned.. murag gikan ug beach outing :lol:

http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.

This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565

harveharve
March 28th, 2009, 07:04 AM
^^^^
hehehe bronzed and tanned.. murag gikan ug beach outing :lol:

http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.

This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:29 AM
^^^^
hehehe bronzed and tanned.. murag gikan ug beach outing :lol:

http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.

This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565

^^ so mao diay ni location anang picture

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6050/tresdos.jpg[/URL]

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:29 AM
^^^^
hehehe bronzed and tanned.. murag gikan ug beach outing :lol:

http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.

This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565

^^ so mao diay ni location anang picture

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6050/tresdos.jpg[/URL]

harveharve
March 28th, 2009, 10:40 AM
^^ so mao diay ni location anang picture

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6050/tresdos.jpg[/URL]
yup:) mao na sya:) Sanciangko back then did not intersect with tres de abril. The bridge is of American vintage when they extended Sanciangko to interset with Tres. This picture wouldn't also be in the Labangon-Punta Princesa section of Tres de Abril kay wala may bridge to the side of tres sa Punta-Labangon. My conclusion would be Tres-B.Aranas-Sanciangko, I checked my maps and sakto man ang angle sa road and the bridge, and that's the only portion of the road that runs parallel to the river :)

harveharve
March 28th, 2009, 10:40 AM
^^ so mao diay ni location anang picture

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6050/tresdos.jpg[/URL]
yup:) mao na sya:) Sanciangko back then did not intersect with tres de abril. The bridge is of American vintage when they extended Sanciangko to interset with Tres. This picture wouldn't also be in the Labangon-Punta Princesa section of Tres de Abril kay wala may bridge to the side of tres sa Punta-Labangon. My conclusion would be Tres-B.Aranas-Sanciangko, I checked my maps and sakto man ang angle sa road and the bridge, and that's the only portion of the road that runs parallel to the river :)

Ka_Bino
March 28th, 2009, 06:15 PM
http://kabino.blogspot.com/

Ka_Bino
March 28th, 2009, 06:15 PM
http://kabino.blogspot.com/

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:06 PM
http://kabino.blogspot.com/

thanks for the pictures ka bino, mora man ni ug toy soldiers ... si mcarthur ni? kung pwede pa lang mobangon siya sa iyang lubnganan basin ni protesta na siya sa contractor:lol:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:06 PM
http://kabino.blogspot.com/

thanks for the pictures ka bino, mora man ni ug toy soldiers ... si mcarthur ni? kung pwede pa lang mobangon siya sa iyang lubnganan basin ni protesta na siya sa contractor:lol:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM
fotos by ka bino

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

Contractor pledges to replace Talisay statues

A PRIVATE contractor is set to replace the life-sized statues of American soldiers at the newly expanded Talisay City liberation park in Barangay Poblacion.

City Hall officials want the statues replaced amid criticisms that the seven-foot figures are of poor quality.

The replacements, however, may put Jewens Construction at a disadvantage because it has to again pay for the making of new statues.

Panagbenga 2009 blog

“There’s no problem with me, I have to accommodate their request for their satisfaction,” said contractor Jewens Cabase in a phone interview yesterday.

Cabase said the statues have not been turned over yet to the City and that billing is based on the progress of the project. She said she has no other recourse but to accommodate the request of City Hall.

Of the P6-million project funding from the Philippine Tourism Authority and the Department of Tourism, Sun.Star Cebu learned that only P1 million was initially released.

As a result, Jewens Construction shelled out its own funds to complete the installation of the monuments and the expansion of the park in time for the 64th anniversary of the US liberation forces’ Talisay landing last Thursday.

At P150,000 per statue, the project already costs over P1 million. Although hollow inside, the statues are made of fiberglass to protect them from corrosion.

Cabase said she already informed the City Engineering Office to remove the seven monuments tomorrow.

She said she has to look for another artist, one who is an expert in molding life-size monuments.

A source earlier told Sun.Star Cebu that Jewens Construction tapped the services of the “wrong” sculptor-artist from Lapu-Lapu City.

To make the figures more presentable in last Thursday’s landing celebration, real military backpacks, belts, and holsters were put on the statues.

Still, Rep. Eduardo R. Gullas (Cebu, 1st district), the keynote speaker in the American landing anniversary, commented that the monuments were “unfinished and merely embellished.”

The monuments are Talisay City’s way of honoring the surviving war veterans as well as the American soldiers and Filipino guerillas who died during World War II against the invading Japanese Imperial Army. (GC)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/contractor-pledges-replace-talisay-statues

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM
fotos by ka bino

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

Contractor pledges to replace Talisay statues

A PRIVATE contractor is set to replace the life-sized statues of American soldiers at the newly expanded Talisay City liberation park in Barangay Poblacion.

City Hall officials want the statues replaced amid criticisms that the seven-foot figures are of poor quality.

The replacements, however, may put Jewens Construction at a disadvantage because it has to again pay for the making of new statues.

Panagbenga 2009 blog

“There’s no problem with me, I have to accommodate their request for their satisfaction,” said contractor Jewens Cabase in a phone interview yesterday.

Cabase said the statues have not been turned over yet to the City and that billing is based on the progress of the project. She said she has no other recourse but to accommodate the request of City Hall.

Of the P6-million project funding from the Philippine Tourism Authority and the Department of Tourism, Sun.Star Cebu learned that only P1 million was initially released.

As a result, Jewens Construction shelled out its own funds to complete the installation of the monuments and the expansion of the park in time for the 64th anniversary of the US liberation forces’ Talisay landing last Thursday.

At P150,000 per statue, the project already costs over P1 million. Although hollow inside, the statues are made of fiberglass to protect them from corrosion.

Cabase said she already informed the City Engineering Office to remove the seven monuments tomorrow.

She said she has to look for another artist, one who is an expert in molding life-size monuments.

A source earlier told Sun.Star Cebu that Jewens Construction tapped the services of the “wrong” sculptor-artist from Lapu-Lapu City.

To make the figures more presentable in last Thursday’s landing celebration, real military backpacks, belts, and holsters were put on the statues.

Still, Rep. Eduardo R. Gullas (Cebu, 1st district), the keynote speaker in the American landing anniversary, commented that the monuments were “unfinished and merely embellished.”

The monuments are Talisay City’s way of honoring the surviving war veterans as well as the American soldiers and Filipino guerillas who died during World War II against the invading Japanese Imperial Army. (GC)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/contractor-pledges-replace-talisay-statues

LordCarnal
March 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

I was also able to meet the maker/artist, a certain "Robert." I forgot his family name, hehe. Anyway, kudos to you! And thank you for making us proud of our cathedral!

I was also able to meet Cealwyn Tagle whom I thought at first was just an organ builder/employee at Diego Cera Organbuilders -- but he himself owns Diego Cera!

If Fr. Diego Cera has gone down in history as the builder of the famous Las Piñas Bamboo Organ, Mr. Tagle will surely be in history too in the future as the sole organ builder and restorer in the country today. Among his projects include the restoration of the pipe organs in Bohol, Jimenez (Misamis), Bacong (Negros), San Agustin (Intramuros), Manila Cathedral, etc. The pipe organ at the Cebu Cathedral is his "first big project" way back in 1996.

I hope the people at the cathedral will not waste this masterpiece. They should throw away that Yamaha Electone and play the pipe organ every time there's a service.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3393023826_6fd1af702d.jpg

LordCarnal
March 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

I was also able to meet the maker/artist, a certain "Robert." I forgot his family name, hehe. Anyway, kudos to you! And thank you for making us proud of our cathedral!

I was also able to meet Cealwyn Tagle whom I thought at first was just an organ builder/employee at Diego Cera Organbuilders -- but he himself owns Diego Cera!

If Fr. Diego Cera has gone down in history as the builder of the famous Las Piñas Bamboo Organ, Mr. Tagle will surely be in history too in the future as the sole organ builder and restorer in the country today. Among his projects include the restoration of the pipe organs in Bohol, Jimenez (Misamis), Bacong (Negros), San Agustin (Intramuros), Manila Cathedral, etc. The pipe organ at the Cebu Cathedral is his "first big project" way back in 1996.

I hope the people at the cathedral will not waste this masterpiece. They should throw away that Yamaha Electone and play the pipe organ every time there's a service.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3393023826_6fd1af702d.jpg

LordCarnal
March 28th, 2009, 08:51 PM
You can see some of Cealwyn's work here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/philippine_church_music/

LordCarnal
March 28th, 2009, 08:51 PM
You can see some of Cealwyn's work here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/philippine_church_music/

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:56 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

I was also able to meet the maker/artist, a certain "Robert." I forgot his family name, hehe. Anyway, kudos to you! And thank you for making us proud of our cathedral!

I was also able to meet Cealwyn Tagle whom I thought at first was just an organ builder/employee at Diego Cera Organbuilders -- but he himself owns Diego Cera!

If Fr. Diego Cera has gone down in history as the builder of the famous Las Piñas Bamboo Organ, Mr. Tagle will surely be in history too in the future as the sole organ builder and restorer in the country today. Among his projects include the restoration of the pipe organs in Bohol, Jimenez (Misamis), Bacong (Negros), San Agustin (Intramuros), Manila Cathedral, etc. The pipe organ at the Cebu Cathedral is his "first big project" way back in 1996.

I hope the people at the cathedral will not waste this masterpiece. They should throw away that Yamaha Electone and play the pipe organ every time there's a service.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3393023826_6fd1af702d.jpg

thanks for the cathedral update ... i think the diego cerra organbuilders started years after the restoration of las pinas bamboo organ ... aside from restoring the organ, there were people sent to germany to learn the art of pipe organ restoration/construction in order to assure the maintenance of the bamboo organ ... and i'm happy that they are doing well and even extend their services to other parts of the philippines and even abroad!!!:banana:

@LordCarl, before they throw that Yamaha Electone they should send people to a music school ... one needs proper training in order to play that instrument well ... in germany for example many of cathedral organists have doctorate in music. to be a cathedral organist is an honor and a responsibility. ...

gee
March 28th, 2009, 08:56 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

I was also able to meet the maker/artist, a certain "Robert." I forgot his family name, hehe. Anyway, kudos to you! And thank you for making us proud of our cathedral!

I was also able to meet Cealwyn Tagle whom I thought at first was just an organ builder/employee at Diego Cera Organbuilders -- but he himself owns Diego Cera!

If Fr. Diego Cera has gone down in history as the builder of the famous Las Piñas Bamboo Organ, Mr. Tagle will surely be in history too in the future as the sole organ builder and restorer in the country today. Among his projects include the restoration of the pipe organs in Bohol, Jimenez (Misamis), Bacong (Negros), San Agustin (Intramuros), Manila Cathedral, etc. The pipe organ at the Cebu Cathedral is his "first big project" way back in 1996.

I hope the people at the cathedral will not waste this masterpiece. They should throw away that Yamaha Electone and play the pipe organ every time there's a service.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3393023826_6fd1af702d.jpg

thanks for the cathedral update ... i think the diego cerra organbuilders started years after the restoration of las pinas bamboo organ ... aside from restoring the organ, there were people sent to germany to learn the art of pipe organ restoration/construction in order to assure the maintenance of the bamboo organ ... and i'm happy that they are doing well and even extend their services to other parts of the philippines and even abroad!!!:banana:

@LordCarl, before they throw that Yamaha Electone they should send people to a music school ... one needs proper training in order to play that instrument well ... in germany for example many of cathedral organists have doctorate in music. to be a cathedral organist is an honor and a responsibility. ...

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 09:15 PM
thanks for the pictures ka bino, mora man ni ug toy soldiers ... si mcarthur ni? kung pwede pa lang mobangon siya sa iyang lubnganan basin ni protesta na siya sa contractor:lol:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

"mora man ni ug toy soldiers ..." Modern Art siguro :) Dili ba mas pareho nawong ni Jim Carry sa Dumb and dumber, di ba kaha ang thin sa fat and thin :) Bitaw uy our forefathers and their american friends desrves more than these caricatures.

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 09:15 PM
thanks for the pictures ka bino, mora man ni ug toy soldiers ... si mcarthur ni? kung pwede pa lang mobangon siya sa iyang lubnganan basin ni protesta na siya sa contractor:lol:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

"mora man ni ug toy soldiers ..." Modern Art siguro :) Dili ba mas pareho nawong ni Jim Carry sa Dumb and dumber, di ba kaha ang thin sa fat and thin :) Bitaw uy our forefathers and their american friends desrves more than these caricatures.

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:27 PM
"mora man ni ug toy soldiers ..." Modern Art siguro :) Dili ba mas pareho nawong ni Jim Carry sa Dumb and dumber, di ba kaha ang thin sa fat and thin :) Bitaw uy our forefathers and their american friends desrves more than these caricatures.

hahaha ... modern art ... gi-abstract na lang unta para dili ta makapanaway :lol:

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:27 PM
"mora man ni ug toy soldiers ..." Modern Art siguro :) Dili ba mas pareho nawong ni Jim Carry sa Dumb and dumber, di ba kaha ang thin sa fat and thin :) Bitaw uy our forefathers and their american friends desrves more than these caricatures.

hahaha ... modern art ... gi-abstract na lang unta para dili ta makapanaway :lol:

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 09:54 PM
hahaha ... modern art ... gi-abstract na lang unta para dili ta makapanaway :lol:

Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


McArthur Park Leyte

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/mcarthur_park_leyte_400x.jpg

McArthur Park in Leyte, a proper tribute. Maayo ta ug pareha ka proper ang talisay.

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 09:54 PM
hahaha ... modern art ... gi-abstract na lang unta para dili ta makapanaway :lol:

Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


McArthur Park Leyte

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/mcarthur_park_leyte_400x.jpg

McArthur Park in Leyte, a proper tribute. Maayo ta ug pareha ka proper ang talisay.

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Aw dili diat na abstract :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


McArthur Park Leyte

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/mcarthur_park_leyte_400x.jpg

McArthur Park in Leyte, a proper tribute. Maayo ta ug pareha ka proper ang talisay.

dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters ... bisan ang taga talisay mismo nanaway ana, mas gwapo pa man ang manequin sa gaisano metro ana :lol:

gee
March 28th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Aw dili diat na abstract :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


McArthur Park Leyte

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/mcarthur_park_leyte_400x.jpg

McArthur Park in Leyte, a proper tribute. Maayo ta ug pareha ka proper ang talisay.

dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters ... bisan ang taga talisay mismo nanaway ana, mas gwapo pa man ang manequin sa gaisano metro ana :lol:

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 10:39 PM
dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters ... bisan ang taga talisay mismo nanaway ana, mas gwapo pa man ang manequin sa gaisano metro ana :lol:

"dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters" - murag anime, kanang drawing sa manga, mga Japanese characters na dagkog mata. :)

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 10:39 PM
dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters ... bisan ang taga talisay mismo nanaway ana, mas gwapo pa man ang manequin sa gaisano metro ana :lol:

"dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters" - murag anime, kanang drawing sa manga, mga Japanese characters na dagkog mata. :)

gee
March 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM
"dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters" - murag anime, kanang drawing sa manga, mga Japanese characters na dagkog mata. :)

basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v

gee
March 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM
"dili na abstract kay naporma man pod ang dagway nga mura ug cartoon characters" - murag anime, kanang drawing sa manga, mga Japanese characters na dagkog mata. :)

basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 10:52 PM
basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v

"basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v" - padz dili naman lang ta nako ni i-post pero hisgot naman ka voltes V. Spot the difference na lang :)

Tangtang na lang nako ang picture padz basin ma controversial

Taga Bogo
March 28th, 2009, 10:52 PM
basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v

"basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v" - padz dili naman lang ta nako ni i-post pero hisgot naman ka voltes V. Spot the difference na lang :)

Tangtang na lang nako ang picture padz basin ma controversial

gee
March 28th, 2009, 11:24 PM
"basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v" - padz dili naman lang ta nako ni i-post pero hisgot naman ka voltes V. Spot the difference na lang :)

you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

gee
March 28th, 2009, 11:24 PM
"basin ilisan sa contractor ug estatuwa ni voltes v" - padz dili naman lang ta nako ni i-post pero hisgot naman ka voltes V. Spot the difference na lang :)

you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

MatudNilaBaby
March 29th, 2009, 12:18 AM
pagkahinawayon na lang gyud aning mga cebuano. dili mangonsa bisan naa sa ilang tugkaran himbisan pa gyud. bitaw mora ug substandard manang ilang soldier statues. unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo. mga americano gud na ug hitsura. paka-uwaw lang parasaway imbis mamalandong ka kay naa ka sa liberation park magsigi naman lang siguro ka ug katawa ug tan-aw ana ilang hitsura nga wala dinhi wala didto. ay pastilan nimo ondo nganong nag usikusik man ka sa kuwarta sa ciudad?

MatudNilaBaby
March 29th, 2009, 12:18 AM
pagkahinawayon na lang gyud aning mga cebuano. dili mangonsa bisan naa sa ilang tugkaran himbisan pa gyud. bitaw mora ug substandard manang ilang soldier statues. unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo. mga americano gud na ug hitsura. paka-uwaw lang parasaway imbis mamalandong ka kay naa ka sa liberation park magsigi naman lang siguro ka ug katawa ug tan-aw ana ilang hitsura nga wala dinhi wala didto. ay pastilan nimo ondo nganong nag usikusik man ka sa kuwarta sa ciudad?

LordCarnal
March 29th, 2009, 03:06 AM
Grabeha ui, P150,000 fo each statue?

Basing on its looks I think tag P1,000 ra man cguro ni.

:ohno:



Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg
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LordCarnal
March 29th, 2009, 03:06 AM
Grabeha ui, P150,000 fo each statue?

Basing on its looks I think tag P1,000 ra man cguro ni.

:ohno:



Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg
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Mercato
March 29th, 2009, 04:40 AM
After this huge controversy, the government or the agencies concerned should put up strict guidelines as to what they exactly want and expect.

This is to dispel any cop outs and excuses by the contractor. For heaven's sakes, these statues are horrendous and one big joke, on the taxpayer mind you.

To have these as a showcase to the entire world is ridiculous and embarrassing, they are embarrassing because we do not want to show the world that our people are incapable of making quality art and that we are proud to showcase mediocrity and pass it off as artistic license.

Having said all that, yuna pa kay mokupot pa ko sa akong lingkoranan nagsigue pa ko'g katawa... :hilarious :hilarious

Mercato
March 29th, 2009, 04:40 AM
After this huge controversy, the government or the agencies concerned should put up strict guidelines as to what they exactly want and expect.

This is to dispel any cop outs and excuses by the contractor. For heaven's sakes, these statues are horrendous and one big joke, on the taxpayer mind you.

To have these as a showcase to the entire world is ridiculous and embarrassing, they are embarrassing because we do not want to show the world that our people are incapable of making quality art and that we are proud to showcase mediocrity and pass it off as artistic license.

Having said all that, yuna pa kay mokupot pa ko sa akong lingkoranan nagsigue pa ko'g katawa... :hilarious :hilarious

harveharve
March 29th, 2009, 06:44 AM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

@padz: Hahahahaha this really cracked me up!!! hahaha:lol::lol::lol: lederhosen... hahaha

unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo.

@MatudNilaBaby:
ang helmet, kuwang nalang ug star, mura ug Japanese Imperial Army helmet:bash: considering, ang nawng sad sa statue, mura man ug hapon kaysa kano.:bash: all i can say is, dinali-an gyud pagkabuhat... ug sa dihang dapita likod sa karaang munisipyo mag-laugh trip nalang ta sa mga dagway aning mga estatuwa (estatawa?) hehe the contractor could have done better. Fiberglass pa kuno ang gigamit. Didto nalang unta sila as Javier Ceramics nagpabuhat, life-like pa unta kaayo ang estatuwa. Ang pangutana, unsa naman sad kaha ni? another case of overpricing?

http://www.jessensrelics.com/images/499-1.jpg

harveharve
March 29th, 2009, 06:44 AM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

@padz: Hahahahaha this really cracked me up!!! hahaha:lol::lol::lol: lederhosen... hahaha

unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo.

@MatudNilaBaby:
ang helmet, kuwang nalang ug star, mura ug Japanese Imperial Army helmet:bash: considering, ang nawng sad sa statue, mura man ug hapon kaysa kano.:bash: all i can say is, dinali-an gyud pagkabuhat... ug sa dihang dapita likod sa karaang munisipyo mag-laugh trip nalang ta sa mga dagway aning mga estatuwa (estatawa?) hehe the contractor could have done better. Fiberglass pa kuno ang gigamit. Didto nalang unta sila as Javier Ceramics nagpabuhat, life-like pa unta kaayo ang estatuwa. Ang pangutana, unsa naman sad kaha ni? another case of overpricing?

http://www.jessensrelics.com/images/499-1.jpg

diehardbisdak
March 29th, 2009, 08:23 AM
^^ hala, kalain tan-awon... :lol:

diehardbisdak
March 29th, 2009, 08:23 AM
^^ hala, kalain tan-awon... :lol:

Sleepwalker
March 29th, 2009, 09:20 AM
pagkahinawayon na lang gyud aning mga cebuano. dili mangonsa bisan naa sa ilang tugkaran himbisan pa gyud. bitaw mora ug substandard manang ilang soldier statues. unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo. mga americano gud na ug hitsura. paka-uwaw lang parasaway imbis mamalandong ka kay naa ka sa liberation park magsigi naman lang siguro ka ug katawa ug tan-aw ana ilang hitsura nga wala dinhi wala didto. ay pastilan nimo ondo nganong nag usikusik man ka sa kuwarta sa ciudad?

Sakto gud...Instead nga makahatag og garbo ni nga mga estatwa, mora na hinoon og sa carnival.

Hahay, pastilan...Maayo lang unta og dili ni another case of overpricing, as pointed out by @harveharve.

Sleepwalker
March 29th, 2009, 09:20 AM
pagkahinawayon na lang gyud aning mga cebuano. dili mangonsa bisan naa sa ilang tugkaran himbisan pa gyud. bitaw mora ug substandard manang ilang soldier statues. unsaon ang uban gud dili man mo pay attention sa details sa forma sa tawo. mga americano gud na ug hitsura. paka-uwaw lang parasaway imbis mamalandong ka kay naa ka sa liberation park magsigi naman lang siguro ka ug katawa ug tan-aw ana ilang hitsura nga wala dinhi wala didto. ay pastilan nimo ondo nganong nag usikusik man ka sa kuwarta sa ciudad?

Sakto gud...Instead nga makahatag og garbo ni nga mga estatwa, mora na hinoon og sa carnival.

Hahay, pastilan...Maayo lang unta og dili ni another case of overpricing, as pointed out by @harveharve.

gee
March 29th, 2009, 10:24 AM
After this huge controversy, the government or the agencies concerned should put up strict guidelines as to what they exactly want and expect.

This is to dispel any cop outs and excuses by the contractor. For heaven's sakes, these statues are horrendous and one big joke, on the taxpayer mind you.

To have these as a showcase to the entire world is ridiculous and embarrassing, they are embarrassing because we do not want to show the world that our people are incapable of making quality art and that we are proud to showcase mediocrity and pass it off as artistic license.

Having said all that, yuna pa kay mokupot pa ko sa akong lingkoranan nagsigue pa ko'g katawa... :hilarious :hilarious

Sakto gud...Instead nga makahatag og garbo ni nga mga estatwa, mora na hinoon og sa carnival.

Hahay, pastilan...Maayo lang unta og dili ni another case of overpricing, as pointed out by @harveharve.

ang approved budget sa DOT 2.9 milyones ka pesos, ngano man ang gibalita sa mga pamantalan 6 milyones ka pesos man kuno ang funding sa DOT.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3751/talisay.jpg
source: http://www.philtourism.com/bidding_landingshrine_talisaycebu.html



Of the P6 million funding from the Department of Tourism and Philippine Tourism Authority for the project, the City reportedly got an initial release of P1 million. http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/soldiers’-statues


The monument worth P6 million is located along the shores of Liberation Park in barangay Poblacion, city engineer Audie Bacasmas said. http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/community/view/20090306-192697/Talisays-Liberation-Day-Monument-almost-done

gee
March 29th, 2009, 10:24 AM
After this huge controversy, the government or the agencies concerned should put up strict guidelines as to what they exactly want and expect.

This is to dispel any cop outs and excuses by the contractor. For heaven's sakes, these statues are horrendous and one big joke, on the taxpayer mind you.

To have these as a showcase to the entire world is ridiculous and embarrassing, they are embarrassing because we do not want to show the world that our people are incapable of making quality art and that we are proud to showcase mediocrity and pass it off as artistic license.

Having said all that, yuna pa kay mokupot pa ko sa akong lingkoranan nagsigue pa ko'g katawa... :hilarious :hilarious

Sakto gud...Instead nga makahatag og garbo ni nga mga estatwa, mora na hinoon og sa carnival.

Hahay, pastilan...Maayo lang unta og dili ni another case of overpricing, as pointed out by @harveharve.

ang approved budget sa DOT 2.9 milyones ka pesos, ngano man ang gibalita sa mga pamantalan 6 milyones ka pesos man kuno ang funding sa DOT.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3751/talisay.jpg
source: http://www.philtourism.com/bidding_landingshrine_talisaycebu.html



Of the P6 million funding from the Department of Tourism and Philippine Tourism Authority for the project, the City reportedly got an initial release of P1 million. http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/soldiers’-statues


The monument worth P6 million is located along the shores of Liberation Park in barangay Poblacion, city engineer Audie Bacasmas said. http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/community/view/20090306-192697/Talisays-Liberation-Day-Monument-almost-done

harveharve
March 29th, 2009, 07:25 PM
^^^^
Perhaps somebody out there got a huge chunk of this reported P6M budget. As per the usual in the Philippines, SOP is currently at 80% not to mention the back-door deals contractors make with politicians and government agencies. For all we know, even the bidding process is a sham! :ohno:

In the end, taxpayers get substandard projects. So-called bidders with the lowest overhead cost will be awarded the project but is that even true in the Philippine setting? We have more scandals per capita in the entire SEA region.

This Talisay Landing Shrine is perhaps another monument to corruption.

Or basin malisyoso lang kog hunahuna? hehe

harveharve
March 29th, 2009, 07:25 PM
^^^^
Perhaps somebody out there got a huge chunk of this reported P6M budget. As per the usual in the Philippines, SOP is currently at 80% not to mention the back-door deals contractors make with politicians and government agencies. For all we know, even the bidding process is a sham! :ohno:

In the end, taxpayers get substandard projects. So-called bidders with the lowest overhead cost will be awarded the project but is that even true in the Philippine setting? We have more scandals per capita in the entire SEA region.

This Talisay Landing Shrine is perhaps another monument to corruption.

Or basin malisyoso lang kog hunahuna? hehe

gee
March 29th, 2009, 07:36 PM
Pride of Place
Cebu heritage through French eyes
By Augusto Villalon
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:10:00 03/29/2009

Conclusion

AT ANOTHER table sat Mariquita Yeung, a friend who insisted that since we were flying by helicopter to the heritage town of Carcar, why not proceed to Boljoon (pronounced bol-hó-on) just a few towns away to see probably the most magnificent Spanish colonial church in Cebu province?

Without waiting for our answer, she immediately phoned to tell the mayor to expect us.

What I like most about Cebu is that it is a place where serendipity always happens, and here it was turning up again. We were on a serendipity roll.

The weather unexpectedly cleared. Immediately we took off from a large vacant lot in two helicopters following each other in a low circle over the city, past urban street patterns that a\were surprisingly orderly when seen from above.

We saw monumental buildings marking important plazas and broad avenues, and everywhere was the cityscape of rusted roofs densely crammed into a narrow area of flat land between the congested coastline and the mountain range behind the city.

We flew southward, away from the city and above the heavily populated coastline for half an hour, until we landed behind a Carcar steel factory amid a large gathering of people encircling the makeshift helipad etched on a muddy grass field.

Our dropping in was the town event of the week. So many Carcaranons came, holding up umbrellas or banana leaves over their heads to shelter themselves from the drizzle.

Natural ventilation

We visited two heritage houses in Carcar. The difference between Casa Gorordo Museum and the Carcar houses dating from the same mid-19th-century era is that these are no museums. The owners still live in them.

In the Castro and Alfafara homes, the wide hardwood floor planks are polished to mirror perfection. Pieces of antique furniture are still used by the family, including four poster beds in the rooms. Modern appliances have brought old kitchens up to date.

Our visitors marveled at the natural ventilation cooling the homes; the beauty of the tropical hardwood unlike any wood found in France; the simplicity of traditional joinery; and the East-West architecture fusing Cebuano, Chinese, Spanish and, much later, American colonial influences.

Equally revealing to the visitors were the constant efforts of the determined homeowners to maintain their houses in top condition despite hardships and so many factors outside their control, like flooding due to increased street levels brought on by repaving, which has blocked all existing natural drainage.

And, of course, the ravages of time and pollution eating up old plastered walls.

Emerald green

We took off for Boljoon in a slight mist that diffused the light, softly illuminating the rolling, coastal agricultural fields. The brilliant emerald green reminded me of subtle Batanes landscapes, or farther afield, the serenely beautiful Irish countryside.

Gone for the moment was the usual bright tropical sunlight. Never had I seen Cebu like this, its verdant landscape sparkling in the afternoon drizzle.

We flew over the magnificent string of fortress-churches of southern Cebu, each appearing at regular intervals along the coastline, a reminder that Cebu (and much of the Philippines) was a coastal society where travel was by boat.

Each church, its back to the mountains, squarely faced the sea. From each tower sentries once signaled impending attacks by ringing bells that called townspeople to take immediate refuge inside the church. Boljoon church is an example of this architecture.

The mayor hastily set up a helipad in the churchyard on the Boljoon shoreline where we landed, one after the other, in full view of what appeared to be the majority of the mayor’s constituents standing at the edge of the yard.

Magnificent Boljoon church, its richly carved altars and painted ceilings intact, ecclesiastical art all in place, is the focus of preservation efforts by provincial and national authorities, local clergy and townspeople – a rare example of true community heritage effort.

In true Filipino hospitality, merienda was offered. We hastily took it, because the clouds were coming in once again and the pilots insisted on flying out while we could, before bad weather grounded us. We got out just in time.

gee
March 29th, 2009, 07:36 PM
Pride of Place
Cebu heritage through French eyes
By Augusto Villalon
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:10:00 03/29/2009

Conclusion

AT ANOTHER table sat Mariquita Yeung, a friend who insisted that since we were flying by helicopter to the heritage town of Carcar, why not proceed to Boljoon (pronounced bol-hó-on) just a few towns away to see probably the most magnificent Spanish colonial church in Cebu province?

Without waiting for our answer, she immediately phoned to tell the mayor to expect us.

What I like most about Cebu is that it is a place where serendipity always happens, and here it was turning up again. We were on a serendipity roll.

The weather unexpectedly cleared. Immediately we took off from a large vacant lot in two helicopters following each other in a low circle over the city, past urban street patterns that a\were surprisingly orderly when seen from above.

We saw monumental buildings marking important plazas and broad avenues, and everywhere was the cityscape of rusted roofs densely crammed into a narrow area of flat land between the congested coastline and the mountain range behind the city.

We flew southward, away from the city and above the heavily populated coastline for half an hour, until we landed behind a Carcar steel factory amid a large gathering of people encircling the makeshift helipad etched on a muddy grass field.

Our dropping in was the town event of the week. So many Carcaranons came, holding up umbrellas or banana leaves over their heads to shelter themselves from the drizzle.

Natural ventilation

We visited two heritage houses in Carcar. The difference between Casa Gorordo Museum and the Carcar houses dating from the same mid-19th-century era is that these are no museums. The owners still live in them.

In the Castro and Alfafara homes, the wide hardwood floor planks are polished to mirror perfection. Pieces of antique furniture are still used by the family, including four poster beds in the rooms. Modern appliances have brought old kitchens up to date.

Our visitors marveled at the natural ventilation cooling the homes; the beauty of the tropical hardwood unlike any wood found in France; the simplicity of traditional joinery; and the East-West architecture fusing Cebuano, Chinese, Spanish and, much later, American colonial influences.

Equally revealing to the visitors were the constant efforts of the determined homeowners to maintain their houses in top condition despite hardships and so many factors outside their control, like flooding due to increased street levels brought on by repaving, which has blocked all existing natural drainage.

And, of course, the ravages of time and pollution eating up old plastered walls.

Emerald green

We took off for Boljoon in a slight mist that diffused the light, softly illuminating the rolling, coastal agricultural fields. The brilliant emerald green reminded me of subtle Batanes landscapes, or farther afield, the serenely beautiful Irish countryside.

Gone for the moment was the usual bright tropical sunlight. Never had I seen Cebu like this, its verdant landscape sparkling in the afternoon drizzle.

We flew over the magnificent string of fortress-churches of southern Cebu, each appearing at regular intervals along the coastline, a reminder that Cebu (and much of the Philippines) was a coastal society where travel was by boat.

Each church, its back to the mountains, squarely faced the sea. From each tower sentries once signaled impending attacks by ringing bells that called townspeople to take immediate refuge inside the church. Boljoon church is an example of this architecture.

The mayor hastily set up a helipad in the churchyard on the Boljoon shoreline where we landed, one after the other, in full view of what appeared to be the majority of the mayor’s constituents standing at the edge of the yard.

Magnificent Boljoon church, its richly carved altars and painted ceilings intact, ecclesiastical art all in place, is the focus of preservation efforts by provincial and national authorities, local clergy and townspeople – a rare example of true community heritage effort.

In true Filipino hospitality, merienda was offered. We hastily took it, because the clouds were coming in once again and the pilots insisted on flying out while we could, before bad weather grounded us. We got out just in time.

flesh_is_weak
March 29th, 2009, 08:26 PM
re: cathedral retablo

i'm not a big fan of the design, but it's better than the previous one...and it's great that they moved the throne to the side, its proper place IMO...

flesh_is_weak
March 29th, 2009, 08:26 PM
re: cathedral retablo

i'm not a big fan of the design, but it's better than the previous one...and it's great that they moved the throne to the side, its proper place IMO...

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 08:34 PM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg


substandard is a substandard word to describe

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 08:34 PM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg


substandard is a substandard word to describe

gee
March 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM
sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg

substandard is a substandard word to describe

^^ substandard na, overpriced pa.

tan-awa ning sa http://fiberglasssculpture.com

http://fiberglasssculpture.com/fatimafull.jpg http://fiberglasssculpture.com/ST_ANTHONY.jpg

Our Lady of Fatima: 72 inches = $ 1150 = PHP 55,271.21 (@ $1 = PHP 48.0619)
St. Anthony: 84 inches = $ 1250 = PHP 60,075.00

gee
March 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM
sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg

substandard is a substandard word to describe

^^ substandard na, overpriced pa.

tan-awa ning sa http://fiberglasssculpture.com

http://fiberglasssculpture.com/fatimafull.jpg http://fiberglasssculpture.com/ST_ANTHONY.jpg

Our Lady of Fatima: 72 inches = $ 1150 = PHP 55,271.21 (@ $1 = PHP 48.0619)
St. Anthony: 84 inches = $ 1250 = PHP 60,075.00

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Sculpting techniques for working with fibre glass

Fibreglass, originally an industrial material, has been widely adopted by sculptors and media artists. The reason for this is that fibreglass is a very tough and resilient material and it is extremely light. Sculptors can create large sculptures that are easily transportable and durable.

The downside of fibreglass sculptures is that it is essentially a form of hard plastic and some artists find that sculpture made in this medium does not have sense of weight and volume that they find important. Possibly the most critical factor against fibreglass is the potential health hazard that it can have.

more: http://www.essortment.com/all/sculptingtechni_rhun.htm

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Sculpting techniques for working with fibre glass

Fibreglass, originally an industrial material, has been widely adopted by sculptors and media artists. The reason for this is that fibreglass is a very tough and resilient material and it is extremely light. Sculptors can create large sculptures that are easily transportable and durable.

The downside of fibreglass sculptures is that it is essentially a form of hard plastic and some artists find that sculpture made in this medium does not have sense of weight and volume that they find important. Possibly the most critical factor against fibreglass is the potential health hazard that it can have.

more: http://www.essortment.com/all/sculptingtechni_rhun.htm

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM
^^ substandard na, overpriced pa.

tan-awa ning sa http://fiberglasssculpture.com

Our Lady of Fatima: 72 inches = $ 1150 = PHP 55,271.21 (@ $1 = PHP 48.0619)
St. Anthony: 84 inches = $ 1250 = PHP 60,075.00

are these prices for fiberglass St. Anthony: 84 inches? WOW. It does looks more sculpted from marble.

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM
^^ substandard na, overpriced pa.

tan-awa ning sa http://fiberglasssculpture.com

Our Lady of Fatima: 72 inches = $ 1150 = PHP 55,271.21 (@ $1 = PHP 48.0619)
St. Anthony: 84 inches = $ 1250 = PHP 60,075.00

are these prices for fiberglass St. Anthony: 84 inches? WOW. It does looks more sculpted from marble.

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:19 PM
are these prices for fiberglass St. Anthony: 84 inches? WOW. It does looks more sculpted from marble.

yes!!! check it here: http://fiberglasssculpture.com/religious.html

sus kung tinood nga tag-P150,000/statue kanang naa sa talisay, niorder na lang unta sila abroad ... basin dili pa moabot ug 150k including cost sa pagpadala

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:19 PM
are these prices for fiberglass St. Anthony: 84 inches? WOW. It does looks more sculpted from marble.

yes!!! check it here: http://fiberglasssculpture.com/religious.html

sus kung tinood nga tag-P150,000/statue kanang naa sa talisay, niorder na lang unta sila abroad ... basin dili pa moabot ug 150k including cost sa pagpadala

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 09:24 PM
yes!!! check it here: http://fiberglasssculpture.com/religious.html

checked out the link, kamahal man diay ana. Fino hinoon kaayo ang workmanship

sus kung tinood nga tag-P150,000/statue kanang naa sa talisay, niorder na lang unta sila abroad ... basin dili pa moabot ug 150k including cost sa pagpadala

Lamp post part 2 kaha ni?

Taga Bogo
March 29th, 2009, 09:24 PM
yes!!! check it here: http://fiberglasssculpture.com/religious.html

checked out the link, kamahal man diay ana. Fino hinoon kaayo ang workmanship

sus kung tinood nga tag-P150,000/statue kanang naa sa talisay, niorder na lang unta sila abroad ... basin dili pa moabot ug 150k including cost sa pagpadala

Lamp post part 2 kaha ni?

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM
checked out the link, kamahal man diay ana. Fino hinoon kaayo ang workmanship



Lamp post part 2 kaha ni?

asa naman tong sabaan nga whistle blower sa sugbo? wala man ko kadungog karon .... basin natulon ang pito ...:lol:

gee
March 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM
checked out the link, kamahal man diay ana. Fino hinoon kaayo ang workmanship



Lamp post part 2 kaha ni?

asa naman tong sabaan nga whistle blower sa sugbo? wala man ko kadungog karon .... basin natulon ang pito ...:lol:

Ang_Bantayanon
March 30th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


.

Pagka-walay sense of aesthetics gyud aning mga tawhana. Pagkangil-ad ini nga mga larawan ug pagkamahal pa gyud.

Ang_Bantayanon
March 30th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Aw dili diay na abstract? :)

Talisay
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5GHbOrpRI/AAAAAAAAJhE/HGrN9Aix8oo/s400/2600_1084948054704_1556481895_30222176_4783258_n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg


.

Pagka-walay sense of aesthetics gyud aning mga tawhana. Pagkangil-ad ini nga mga larawan ug pagkamahal pa gyud.

harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 12:34 PM
asa naman tong sabaan nga whistle blower sa sugbo? wala man ko kadungog karon .... basin natulon ang pito ...:lol:

^^
Natog pa to sya padz! haha I don't think he has an interest in Talisay City... hehehe

New RPPC at Ebay...
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harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 12:34 PM
asa naman tong sabaan nga whistle blower sa sugbo? wala man ko kadungog karon .... basin natulon ang pito ...:lol:

^^
Natog pa to sya padz! haha I don't think he has an interest in Talisay City... hehehe

New RPPC at Ebay...
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harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 01:25 PM
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I suppose this painting is above the main altar.

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A view from atop the Aduana.

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Who is Carl Petersen?

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harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 01:25 PM
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I suppose this painting is above the main altar.

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A view from atop the Aduana.

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Who is Carl Petersen?

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gee
March 30th, 2009, 01:43 PM
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March 30th, 2009, 01:43 PM
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harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 01:47 PM
^^
Bo chi le :ohno: waaaah

Is this the northern end of Magallanes or the southern one? I think I can see the outline of the Kiosk just in the distance...

harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 01:47 PM
^^
Bo chi le :ohno: waaaah

Is this the northern end of Magallanes or the southern one? I think I can see the outline of the Kiosk just in the distance...

gee
March 30th, 2009, 02:00 PM
^^
Bo chi le :ohno: waaaah

Is this the northern end of Magallanes or the southern one? I think I can see the outline of the Kiosk just in the distance...

i tried to enlarge .. i think it is

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9742/cebuebay.jpg

another angle

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9669/nagellanscross.jpg

@harveharve, since we already have plenty of magallanes street postcards, perhaps you can reconstruct how the street looked like, i.e., the stores, bazaar, offices

gee
March 30th, 2009, 02:00 PM
^^
Bo chi le :ohno: waaaah

Is this the northern end of Magallanes or the southern one? I think I can see the outline of the Kiosk just in the distance...

i tried to enlarge .. i think it is

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9742/cebuebay.jpg

another angle

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9669/nagellanscross.jpg

@harveharve, since we already have plenty of magallanes street postcards, perhaps you can reconstruct how the street looked like, i.e., the stores, bazaar, offices

harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 03:30 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

harveharve
March 30th, 2009, 03:30 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

gee
March 30th, 2009, 03:45 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

suportahan ta ka !!! :cheers: kung naa kay mga pangutana, post lang diri para matabanagn namo ug analisar!!

gee
March 30th, 2009, 03:45 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

suportahan ta ka !!! :cheers: kung naa kay mga pangutana, post lang diri para matabanagn namo ug analisar!!

Mercato
March 30th, 2009, 04:12 PM
^^^^
@gee
About the foreign fibreglass, they looked great! However, our local officials seem too spellbound with the local contractor(s) when obviously, no one seems to have mastered the art yet (in the local industry).

Their dilemma seems to be, we want the local contractors but we also want quality fibreglass. But it is getting clear now that they cannot have both! :lol: Somethings gotta give somewhere :lol: Or else they can also revert to more traditional material like stone or marble. Several hispanic era statues had withstood time so far.

But if they can really import those statues, then they should waste no time in doing so.

@harve
Thanks for the cool pics! :cool: Yes, it is the Cross of Magellan. But is it just me or did Magallanes St. seem bigger before than it is now?? or from what I remember about it?

As an afterthought, I hope someday tourism officials can block off certain roads within historic Cebu solely for the use of tartanillas and carruajes (horse drawn, zero emission, green vehicles). Someplace around the Plaza Independencia and the 2 cathedrals. Western tourists love riding on anything with horses. :lol:

Mercato
March 30th, 2009, 04:12 PM
^^^^
@gee
About the foreign fibreglass, they looked great! However, our local officials seem too spellbound with the local contractor(s) when obviously, no one seems to have mastered the art yet (in the local industry).

Their dilemma seems to be, we want the local contractors but we also want quality fibreglass. But it is getting clear now that they cannot have both! :lol: Somethings gotta give somewhere :lol: Or else they can also revert to more traditional material like stone or marble. Several hispanic era statues had withstood time so far.

But if they can really import those statues, then they should waste no time in doing so.

@harve
Thanks for the cool pics! :cool: Yes, it is the Cross of Magellan. But is it just me or did Magallanes St. seem bigger before than it is now?? or from what I remember about it?

As an afterthought, I hope someday tourism officials can block off certain roads within historic Cebu solely for the use of tartanillas and carruajes (horse drawn, zero emission, green vehicles). Someplace around the Plaza Independencia and the 2 cathedrals. Western tourists love riding on anything with horses. :lol:

Taga Bogo
March 30th, 2009, 04:18 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

when you'll have finished with this project, can it be possible to see it in "person", it will be very interesting. Perhaps in a heritahe show or something.

saw those newly listed postcards in ebay through email notices sent, nanlood nako, nag sour graping pa djud, kay dili na madool ang presyo :) :ohno:

Taga Bogo
March 30th, 2009, 04:18 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

when you'll have finished with this project, can it be possible to see it in "person", it will be very interesting. Perhaps in a heritahe show or something.

saw those newly listed postcards in ebay through email notices sent, nanlood nako, nag sour graping pa djud, kay dili na madool ang presyo :) :ohno:

bukid
March 30th, 2009, 04:43 PM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg


substandard is a substandard word to describe

amawa, makatawa ra man gyud ko ani. :lol: fans siguro sa cartoon network ang naghimo anang mga estatwa. pagkabugalbugal ra gyud nila. kakuyaw ba pud ana ug mga hitsura ug nagtungtung pa gyud sa mga poste :lol: mura man og mga karate kid.

bukid
March 30th, 2009, 04:43 PM
you mean ning ani

http://www.character-shop.com/images/pinocchio.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K-EUbWqI/AAAAAAAAJh0/Fe4hDpwAOPE/s400/2600_1084948214708_1556481895_30222180_2950969_n.jpg

sige dili naman siguro ma controversial. Dili ingon ana padz mas lifelike man ang disney, ingon ani ang anime nga akong gitangtang nga litrato

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/Talisay.jpg

mao ni ang other half of the early comedy show Laurel and Hardy (better known as Fat and Thin)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/TalisayLaurel.jpg


substandard is a substandard word to describe

amawa, makatawa ra man gyud ko ani. :lol: fans siguro sa cartoon network ang naghimo anang mga estatwa. pagkabugalbugal ra gyud nila. kakuyaw ba pud ana ug mga hitsura ug nagtungtung pa gyud sa mga poste :lol: mura man og mga karate kid.

gee
March 30th, 2009, 08:00 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

ang direksyon ani padulong sa magellan's cross (at the end)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8315/mag1o.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4247/mag2o.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2931/mag3c.jpg


kini padulong sa san jose

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2549/mag4u.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3877/mag5.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9664/mag6m.jpg

gee
March 30th, 2009, 08:00 PM
@padz

hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).

Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)

ang direksyon ani padulong sa magellan's cross (at the end)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8315/mag1o.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4247/mag2o.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2931/mag3c.jpg


kini padulong sa san jose

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2549/mag4u.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3877/mag5.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9664/mag6m.jpg

flesh_is_weak
March 30th, 2009, 09:58 PM
More postcards from Ebay!!! :banana:


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/86/1200x1200/19/cebu-march-29-2009-018.jpg?et=w1V8pOW%2BOkYLtejetL1n6Q&nmid=225061141


wala gyuy kausaban...nindot ni siya i-develop unya i-promote as an 'historic area' replete with cafes and other tourist drawers with features from that period...

flesh_is_weak
March 30th, 2009, 09:58 PM
More postcards from Ebay!!! :banana:


http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/86/1200x1200/19/cebu-march-29-2009-018.jpg?et=w1V8pOW%2BOkYLtejetL1n6Q&nmid=225061141


wala gyuy kausaban...nindot ni siya i-develop unya i-promote as an 'historic area' replete with cafes and other tourist drawers with features from that period...

harveharve
March 31st, 2009, 03:16 AM
@padz:
Yey! :banana: thank you for the reference photos, gonna blow up the facade for templates hehe I'll be sure to ask you if I get stumped with some of the buildings' locations hehe

@TagaBogo:
sure, no problem. I already finished my Recoletos Church and Convent scale model, but I think I'll have to repaint it.. I botched up the paint job with the aged paletada look :ohno: going to repaint it white then age it with gray :banana: I'm just back in Cebu City already :banana: I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:

@flesh_is_weak:
I think making the Aduana accessible is out of the question as of the moment as it is currently being used as the Malacanang of the South (sakto ba ang termino?) , security is tight at that area.

harveharve
March 31st, 2009, 03:16 AM
@padz:
Yey! :banana: thank you for the reference photos, gonna blow up the facade for templates hehe I'll be sure to ask you if I get stumped with some of the buildings' locations hehe

@TagaBogo:
sure, no problem. I already finished my Recoletos Church and Convent scale model, but I think I'll have to repaint it.. I botched up the paint job with the aged paletada look :ohno: going to repaint it white then age it with gray :banana: I'm just back in Cebu City already :banana: I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:

@flesh_is_weak:
I think making the Aduana accessible is out of the question as of the moment as it is currently being used as the Malacanang of the South (sakto ba ang termino?) , security is tight at that area.

Animo
March 31st, 2009, 04:19 AM
Wow! If we could only turn back time! (Pareja sa katong kanta! LoL) :D

Animo
March 31st, 2009, 04:19 AM
Wow! If we could only turn back time! (Pareja sa katong kanta! LoL) :D

Mercato
March 31st, 2009, 05:33 AM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2931/mag3c.jpg A small trivia about the Nippon Bazaar on the left. My lola used to tell me that there was a large Japantown in Davao before the war and that the Nippon Bazaar was very common throughout the Visayas and Mindanao. During the Japanese invasion, employees at the Nippon Bazaar turned out to be agents of the Japanese Imperial Army. Needless to say, the Bazaar went out of business and became extinct after Liberation by Mcarthur.

Mercato
March 31st, 2009, 05:33 AM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2931/mag3c.jpg A small trivia about the Nippon Bazaar on the left. My lola used to tell me that there was a large Japantown in Davao before the war and that the Nippon Bazaar was very common throughout the Visayas and Mindanao. During the Japanese invasion, employees at the Nippon Bazaar turned out to be agents of the Japanese Imperial Army. Needless to say, the Bazaar went out of business and became extinct after Liberation by Mcarthur.

Taga Bogo
March 31st, 2009, 07:05 AM
@TagaBogo:
sure, no problem. I already finished my Recoletos Church and Convent scale model, but I think I'll have to repaint it.. I botched up the paint job with the aged paletada look :ohno: going to repaint it white then age it with gray :banana: I'm just back in Cebu City already :banana: I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

It would really be nice to look at that kay labor of love man na. Nice pa djud ta na kung mabutang ug dakong lamesa na mora ba ug mapa pero naay mga building. Nice na sa mga museums. Mahal kaayo na kung icommission ug pabuhat. Pero dili sad siguro na tag P150,000 pareho sa talisay :)


Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:



Lagi, nagkamahal naman pag samot. Naa namay nang lapas sa $300 level. Hasta pang katong litrato sa doldol ug kanipaan nahalin almost at $10. Sour graping lang tang duha :)

Taga Bogo
March 31st, 2009, 07:05 AM
@TagaBogo:
sure, no problem. I already finished my Recoletos Church and Convent scale model, but I think I'll have to repaint it.. I botched up the paint job with the aged paletada look :ohno: going to repaint it white then age it with gray :banana: I'm just back in Cebu City already :banana: I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

It would really be nice to look at that kay labor of love man na. Nice pa djud ta na kung mabutang ug dakong lamesa na mora ba ug mapa pero naay mga building. Nice na sa mga museums. Mahal kaayo na kung icommission ug pabuhat. Pero dili sad siguro na tag P150,000 pareho sa talisay :)


Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:



Lagi, nagkamahal naman pag samot. Naa namay nang lapas sa $300 level. Hasta pang katong litrato sa doldol ug kanipaan nahalin almost at $10. Sour graping lang tang duha :)

Taga Bogo
March 31st, 2009, 07:17 AM
@TagaBogo:
Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:



I am more into the human side of pictures, the activities, emotions, past time etc... Here is one I managed to come by a few years ago a postcard from an era when there was still horse racing in Cebu

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9002/cebuhorseracingverytemp.jpg
By tagabogo (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/tagabogo) at 2009-03-30

Taga Bogo
March 31st, 2009, 07:17 AM
@TagaBogo:
Makabuang ang prices sa postcards oi! :bash: I wonder why they're so expensive :ohno: I quit bidding on these na... I'm just happy making file copies of the photo postcards :lol:



I am more into the human side of pictures, the activities, emotions, past time etc... Here is one I managed to come by a few years ago a postcard from an era when there was still horse racing in Cebu

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9002/cebuhorseracingverytemp.jpg
By tagabogo (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/tagabogo) at 2009-03-30

sanvalente
March 31st, 2009, 01:15 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

PORBIDA! PASTILAN PA JUD!

naa baya mga maayong sculptors sa cebu (abellanas/etc), they should have ask..si kinsa man pod intawon ang in-charge sa pag contract ini .. there's supposed to be a visual representation of what they really wanted ...hmmmmm

sanvalente
March 31st, 2009, 01:15 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ISAl8t2-Zzk/Sc5K92zCVkI/AAAAAAAAJhs/aByxSZtelv4/s400/2600_1084948134706_1556481895_30222178_7469995_n.jpg

PORBIDA! PASTILAN PA JUD!

naa baya mga maayong sculptors sa cebu (abellanas/etc), they should have ask..si kinsa man pod intawon ang in-charge sa pag contract ini .. there's supposed to be a visual representation of what they really wanted ...hmmmmm

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 02:42 PM
Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/burials.jpg

Four burials with two modern postholes (for volleyball posts) that intruded into them. Two of the burials,Burial # 28 and 29 are nearly complete.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredbox.jpg

A mid-Ming covered powder box, probably Hong Zhi period (1488-1505) on Burial 29, a female.




http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain2.jpg

A long gold necklace is revealed on the neck area of Burial 29.



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg

The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/longchain.jpg

The length of the necklace.

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 02:42 PM
Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/burials.jpg

Four burials with two modern postholes (for volleyball posts) that intruded into them. Two of the burials,Burial # 28 and 29 are nearly complete.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredbox.jpg

A mid-Ming covered powder box, probably Hong Zhi period (1488-1505) on Burial 29, a female.




http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain2.jpg

A long gold necklace is revealed on the neck area of Burial 29.



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg

The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/longchain.jpg

The length of the necklace.

harveharve
March 31st, 2009, 02:44 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

Sir Jobers, is it just me or does that amol/guna (or is that a bangkaw?) looks like it was thrust into the remains' face...

harveharve
March 31st, 2009, 02:44 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

Sir Jobers, is it just me or does that amol/guna (or is that a bangkaw?) looks like it was thrust into the remains' face...

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 03:01 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

yup. and the design is awesome! i think it is either 20 or 22 carats. :banana:

the female's head was lying on a Zhangzhou dish (1590-1610) which broke due to pressure.

the covered powder box (most probably used as betel nut container) is dated about a century ahead of the dish, which makes me suspect that the powder box is an inherited object.

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 03:01 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

yup. and the design is awesome! i think it is either 20 or 22 carats. :banana:

the female's head was lying on a Zhangzhou dish (1590-1610) which broke due to pressure.

the covered powder box (most probably used as betel nut container) is dated about a century ahead of the dish, which makes me suspect that the powder box is an inherited object.

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 03:03 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

Sir Jobers, is it just me or does that amol/guna (or is that a bangkaw?) looks like it was thrust into the remains' face...

to a certain extent, you are correct, @Harve.

the spear or bangkaw appeared as if it was thrust not towards the face but towards the covered powder box, just to the right of the head of the deceased female. the head had tilted rightwards due to the decomposition process.


we had to remove the head temporarily in order to get to the dish below it.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/plate.jpg

archaeologue
March 31st, 2009, 03:03 PM
^^^^
Wow! that's a long necklace! and it's intact too! and it still looks new! :banana:

Sir Jobers, is it just me or does that amol/guna (or is that a bangkaw?) looks like it was thrust into the remains' face...

to a certain extent, you are correct, @Harve.

the spear or bangkaw appeared as if it was thrust not towards the face but towards the covered powder box, just to the right of the head of the deceased female. the head had tilted rightwards due to the decomposition process.


we had to remove the head temporarily in order to get to the dish below it.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/plate.jpg

Ang_Bantayanon
March 31st, 2009, 03:50 PM
Wow! Congrats again Archaeologue!

Ang_Bantayanon
March 31st, 2009, 03:50 PM
Wow! Congrats again Archaeologue!

gee
March 31st, 2009, 05:28 PM
congratulations @Archaeologue!!!

gee
March 31st, 2009, 05:28 PM
congratulations @Archaeologue!!!

gee
March 31st, 2009, 05:32 PM
I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

kung maporma nimo ang magallanes pwede na nimo iconnect sa recoletos ... ma-"domino effect" na gyud na after sa magallanes plaza rizal ug magellan's cross, dayon sto. nino, cathedral paingon sa sa parian ... hehehe :lol:

gee
March 31st, 2009, 05:32 PM
I might do the Magallanes street in the same scale as the Recoletos :) papercut galore! hehehe

kung maporma nimo ang magallanes pwede na nimo iconnect sa recoletos ... ma-"domino effect" na gyud na after sa magallanes plaza rizal ug magellan's cross, dayon sto. nino, cathedral paingon sa sa parian ... hehehe :lol:

flesh_is_weak
March 31st, 2009, 07:36 PM
@flesh_is_weak:
I think making the Aduana accessible is out of the question as of the moment as it is currently being used as the Malacanang of the South (sakto ba ang termino?) , security is tight at that area.

ay...sorry, sayop na pic akong na-quote...:lol:

katong pic sa street na lined with old warehouses along the waterfront akong pasabot...

* * *

bitaw, ngano Malacanang of the South man? Malacanang is a tagalog word the roughly translates to palace (may lakan dyan)...dapat pud unta, for the southern (presidential) palace, bisaya na term ang gamiton...

flesh_is_weak
March 31st, 2009, 07:36 PM
@flesh_is_weak:
I think making the Aduana accessible is out of the question as of the moment as it is currently being used as the Malacanang of the South (sakto ba ang termino?) , security is tight at that area.

ay...sorry, sayop na pic akong na-quote...:lol:

katong pic sa street na lined with old warehouses along the waterfront akong pasabot...

* * *

bitaw, ngano Malacanang of the South man? Malacanang is a tagalog word the roughly translates to palace (may lakan dyan)...dapat pud unta, for the southern (presidential) palace, bisaya na term ang gamiton...

gee
March 31st, 2009, 09:27 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

gee
March 31st, 2009, 09:27 PM
The new retablo of the Cebu Cathedral is slowly being assembled piece by piece. Judging from the pieces that have arrived (including a lovely set of candelabras), I think the final rendition would be very baroque -- so fitting and rewarding for the seat of the archbishop of Cebu.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3393022508_f17cc9a302.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

MatudNilaBaby
March 31st, 2009, 11:00 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

WOW! kanindot regal kaayo tan-awon very appropriate for a place such as the cebu cathedral. i hope ma elevate na ni into another basilica minore just like the basilica minore del santo nino.

ngano man nang uban simbahan nga mo claim ug basilica unya dili man butangan ug minore mora man hinuon ug tua na sa rome or italy ba nga mora na ug basilica majore.

MatudNilaBaby
March 31st, 2009, 11:00 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

WOW! kanindot regal kaayo tan-awon very appropriate for a place such as the cebu cathedral. i hope ma elevate na ni into another basilica minore just like the basilica minore del santo nino.

ngano man nang uban simbahan nga mo claim ug basilica unya dili man butangan ug minore mora man hinuon ug tua na sa rome or italy ba nga mora na ug basilica majore.

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 02:50 AM
to a certain extent, you are correct, @Harve.

the spear or bangkaw appeared as if it was thrust not towards the face but towards the covered powder box, just to the right of the head of the deceased female. the head had tilted rightwards due to the decomposition process.


we had to remove the head temporarily in order to get to the dish below it.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/plate.jpg

Wow! Another nice surprise from Boljoon! Congratulations Archaeologue!!! :banana: rich man diay kaayo na archaeological site ang Boljoon church grounds:) how many inhumations have you uncovered in that area alone?

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 02:50 AM
to a certain extent, you are correct, @Harve.

the spear or bangkaw appeared as if it was thrust not towards the face but towards the covered powder box, just to the right of the head of the deceased female. the head had tilted rightwards due to the decomposition process.


we had to remove the head temporarily in order to get to the dish below it.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/plate.jpg

Wow! Another nice surprise from Boljoon! Congratulations Archaeologue!!! :banana: rich man diay kaayo na archaeological site ang Boljoon church grounds:) how many inhumations have you uncovered in that area alone?

Sleepwalker
April 1st, 2009, 02:50 AM
Congrats Sir Jobers....Wow, daghana gud diay makuykoy sa Cebu oi.

Sleepwalker
April 1st, 2009, 02:50 AM
Congrats Sir Jobers....Wow, daghana gud diay makuykoy sa Cebu oi.

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 02:55 AM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

^^
are they going to put the Novus Ordo (sorry for the term, my friends at SSPX use that term to refer to the post-conciliar altar... don't know the actual terminology) altar back up in front or did they just temporarily put it on the side? I wonder if the Cathedral will hold regular Tridentine Masses...

It looks so much nicer now :banana:

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 02:55 AM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4139/freemanpicz.jpg
Priests belonging to the Archdiocese of Cebu witness the unveiling of the new Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral’s retablo prior to a Mass celebrated by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal. At least 500 priests of the Archdiocese renew their commitment to priesthood during an annual gathering of clergy at the cathedral yesterday. (from The Freeman)

^^
are they going to put the Novus Ordo (sorry for the term, my friends at SSPX use that term to refer to the post-conciliar altar... don't know the actual terminology) altar back up in front or did they just temporarily put it on the side? I wonder if the Cathedral will hold regular Tridentine Masses...

It looks so much nicer now :banana:

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 04:57 AM
Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?




I was told by your museo sugbo person that you already had prior graves dug up in Boljoon other than the first one which was covered by the media.

So how many graves does this recent digging make?

Where there other notable, not necessarily golden treasures, findings on the other graves dug?

Will the diggings add new bits of information to the Cebu pre-hispanic history?

Do you have thoughts of coming up with a book on Boljoon diggings?

You have prominently placed Boljoon in the archaeological and tourism map, will they be making you as adopted SON soon?

Congratz and wa ko masayop in calling you as CEBU'S THE MAN :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 04:57 AM
Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?




I was told by your museo sugbo person that you already had prior graves dug up in Boljoon other than the first one which was covered by the media.

So how many graves does this recent digging make?

Where there other notable, not necessarily golden treasures, findings on the other graves dug?

Will the diggings add new bits of information to the Cebu pre-hispanic history?

Do you have thoughts of coming up with a book on Boljoon diggings?

You have prominently placed Boljoon in the archaeological and tourism map, will they be making you as adopted SON soon?

Congratz and wa ko masayop in calling you as CEBU'S THE MAN :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 05:54 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg

The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.





Fino ang workmanship sa chain, at this point would you have ideas where this chain was made?

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 05:54 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg

The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.





Fino ang workmanship sa chain, at this point would you have ideas where this chain was made?

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 06:59 AM
The Novus Ordo altar of the cathedral (which used to be part of the tridentine altar before) is still there.

It's just that there's a very big space between the novus ordo altar and the retablo thus it seems like as if the altar has been removed.


^^
are they going to put the Novus Ordo (sorry for the term, my friends at SSPX use that term to refer to the post-conciliar altar... don't know the actual terminology) altar back up in front or did they just temporarily put it on the side? I wonder if the Cathedral will hold regular Tridentine Masses...

It looks so much nicer now :banana:

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 06:59 AM
The Novus Ordo altar of the cathedral (which used to be part of the tridentine altar before) is still there.

It's just that there's a very big space between the novus ordo altar and the retablo thus it seems like as if the altar has been removed.


^^
are they going to put the Novus Ordo (sorry for the term, my friends at SSPX use that term to refer to the post-conciliar altar... don't know the actual terminology) altar back up in front or did they just temporarily put it on the side? I wonder if the Cathedral will hold regular Tridentine Masses...

It looks so much nicer now :banana:

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 07:50 AM
padz gee, dont know if you had visited the Cagayan de Oro City's Architecture, Culture and Arts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468172&goto=nextoldest

You may find these posts interesting with regards to your family/genealogy undetaking
post 297 The first female counselor of the city with pix
post 298 Velez Mercado Family with pix

Am just a stalker there, sometimes I just want some bits and pieces of information about the city, whom I grew fond of, where I spent my entire college years.

Taga Bogo
April 1st, 2009, 07:50 AM
padz gee, dont know if you had visited the Cagayan de Oro City's Architecture, Culture and Arts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468172&goto=nextoldest

You may find these posts interesting with regards to your family/genealogy undetaking
post 297 The first female counselor of the city with pix
post 298 Velez Mercado Family with pix

Am just a stalker there, sometimes I just want some bits and pieces of information about the city, whom I grew fond of, where I spent my entire college years.

gee
April 1st, 2009, 09:31 AM
padz gee, dont know if you had visited the Cagayan de Oro City's Architecture, Culture and Arts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468172&goto=nextoldest

You may find these posts interesting with regards to your family/genealogy undetaking
post 297 The first female counselor of the city with pix
post 298 Velez Mercado Family with pix

Am just a stalker there, sometimes I just want some bits and pieces of information about the city, whom I grew fond of, where I spent my entire college years.


yes i saw it already ... naa pod na sa multiply ug facebook ni @puretuts

gee
April 1st, 2009, 09:31 AM
padz gee, dont know if you had visited the Cagayan de Oro City's Architecture, Culture and Arts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468172&goto=nextoldest

You may find these posts interesting with regards to your family/genealogy undetaking
post 297 The first female counselor of the city with pix
post 298 Velez Mercado Family with pix

Am just a stalker there, sometimes I just want some bits and pieces of information about the city, whom I grew fond of, where I spent my entire college years.


yes i saw it already ... naa pod na sa multiply ug facebook ni @puretuts

gee
April 1st, 2009, 09:37 AM
DECODING THE OLD MAGALLANES STREET PICTURES

Magallanes - Jakosalem St

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1876/magallanesanalysis.jpg

Magallanes - Manalili

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7282/magallanesanalysis2.jpg

gee
April 1st, 2009, 09:37 AM
DECODING THE OLD MAGALLANES STREET PICTURES

Magallanes - Jakosalem St

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1876/magallanesanalysis.jpg

Magallanes - Manalili

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7282/magallanesanalysis2.jpg

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM
The new main altar retablo of the Cathedral.

Flickr Photos by Bunny15me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31471594@N08/3403380435/in/photostream/)

It's not yet finished. They will still clad the post-WWII marble canopy with something that will blend with the new retablo. Also, they will do something with those pink lights. Hehehe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3403374395_0512575ca6_b.jpg


One of the side altar retablos. Also not yet finished.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/3403380435_4507ac77e5_b.jpg

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM
The new main altar retablo of the Cathedral.

Flickr Photos by Bunny15me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31471594@N08/3403380435/in/photostream/)

It's not yet finished. They will still clad the post-WWII marble canopy with something that will blend with the new retablo. Also, they will do something with those pink lights. Hehehe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3403374395_0512575ca6_b.jpg


One of the side altar retablos. Also not yet finished.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/3403380435_4507ac77e5_b.jpg

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 01:04 PM
A message from Robert Cruz, the maker of the retablo


We were supposed to install on the 3rd week of april yet. But the pastors requested to have them for the Chrism Mass. It took us six days to put up the structure. So many Masses celebrated daily, we could only work at night. Minutes before the Chrism Mass, we were still working on it.

Thus, up-close you'll still see a lot of finishing work and adjusments yet to be done. The statues, relleve, and many of the carvings didn't make it for this shipment. We still have to clad the post-WWII marble canopy jutting out of the center. Expect the retablos to be ready for the Apr. 28 anniversary.

All components were pre-fabricated in our Laguna workshop. The main body is made of Philippine Mahogany with gold leaf appliques (carvings), internally supported by a steel structure.

The left retablo niches will have St. Valeria (top), the twins Sts. Gervasio and Protacio (left, right), bas relief of the Martyrdom of San Vitale (center).

For the right retablo: St. Joseph (top), St. Anthony (left), St. Vincent Ferrer (right), La Inmaculada (center).

The IHS logo was re-used, while the old Crucifix was decorated with rays.

Harvey, thanks for the compliment. We're also working on a proposal for four stained glass windows at the facade (choir and chapel windows).

By the 3rd week, we will start installing the twelve-bell carillon in the belfry.

Robert Cruz
Vitreartus Liturgical Arts

LordCarnal
April 1st, 2009, 01:04 PM
A message from Robert Cruz, the maker of the retablo


We were supposed to install on the 3rd week of april yet. But the pastors requested to have them for the Chrism Mass. It took us six days to put up the structure. So many Masses celebrated daily, we could only work at night. Minutes before the Chrism Mass, we were still working on it.

Thus, up-close you'll still see a lot of finishing work and adjusments yet to be done. The statues, relleve, and many of the carvings didn't make it for this shipment. We still have to clad the post-WWII marble canopy jutting out of the center. Expect the retablos to be ready for the Apr. 28 anniversary.

All components were pre-fabricated in our Laguna workshop. The main body is made of Philippine Mahogany with gold leaf appliques (carvings), internally supported by a steel structure.

The left retablo niches will have St. Valeria (top), the twins Sts. Gervasio and Protacio (left, right), bas relief of the Martyrdom of San Vitale (center).

For the right retablo: St. Joseph (top), St. Anthony (left), St. Vincent Ferrer (right), La Inmaculada (center).

The IHS logo was re-used, while the old Crucifix was decorated with rays.

Harvey, thanks for the compliment. We're also working on a proposal for four stained glass windows at the facade (choir and chapel windows).

By the 3rd week, we will start installing the twelve-bell carillon in the belfry.

Robert Cruz
Vitreartus Liturgical Arts

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:12 PM
Wow! Another nice surprise from Boljoon! Congratulations Archaeologue!!! :banana: rich man diay kaayo na archaeological site ang Boljoon church grounds:) how many inhumations have you uncovered in that area alone?

thanks, Harve

32 inhumations so far. but many more can no longer bee identified whether they are one or more inhumations due to their disarticulated/disturbed condition.

yes, rich gyud. but you know, if only there was no looting of grave sites in Cebu, Boljoon would probably just be another common, ordinary burial site with common, ordinary-looking grave goods.

as it happens, this is probably one of the few unlooted sites left making it the "rich" site in CEbu.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:12 PM
Wow! Another nice surprise from Boljoon! Congratulations Archaeologue!!! :banana: rich man diay kaayo na archaeological site ang Boljoon church grounds:) how many inhumations have you uncovered in that area alone?

thanks, Harve

32 inhumations so far. but many more can no longer bee identified whether they are one or more inhumations due to their disarticulated/disturbed condition.

yes, rich gyud. but you know, if only there was no looting of grave sites in Cebu, Boljoon would probably just be another common, ordinary burial site with common, ordinary-looking grave goods.

as it happens, this is probably one of the few unlooted sites left making it the "rich" site in CEbu.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:22 PM
I was told by your museo sugbo person that you already had prior graves dug up in Boljoon other than the first one which was covered by the media.

So how many graves does this recent digging make?



Tiguwang na jud ka, Boy. You were there when we started our first field season in Boljoon on February 7, 2007. You were doing a roundabout inspection of the south prior to establishing your banks, remember?

We are now on our fourth field season. The first two are shown in Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 6. The third season last year is in Thread 7.





Where there other notable, not necessarily golden treasures, findings on the other graves dug?

Will the diggings add new bits of information to the Cebu pre-hispanic history?




So many artifacts but so very little in terms of telling us what these people did to be able to barter for gold. The other finds constitute a pair of worked bones that look like large toothpicks or even penis pins; bones of now long-gone wild pigs and deer; and plenty of devorated earthenware fragments as well as a fragment of a clay pipe.





Do you have thoughts of coming up with a book on Boljoon diggings?




Yes but not only of Boljoon as it would be too slim a volume. I am preparing a manuscript for a coffee table type of book about the archaeology of cebu.




You have prominently placed Boljoon in the archaeological and tourism map, will they be making you as adopted SON soon?

Congratz and wa ko masayop in calling you as CEBU'S THE MAN :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

haha. i have done my share lang. thanks....you too can...by financing future excavations with your millions! hehe

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:22 PM
I was told by your museo sugbo person that you already had prior graves dug up in Boljoon other than the first one which was covered by the media.

So how many graves does this recent digging make?



Tiguwang na jud ka, Boy. You were there when we started our first field season in Boljoon on February 7, 2007. You were doing a roundabout inspection of the south prior to establishing your banks, remember?

We are now on our fourth field season. The first two are shown in Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 6. The third season last year is in Thread 7.





Where there other notable, not necessarily golden treasures, findings on the other graves dug?

Will the diggings add new bits of information to the Cebu pre-hispanic history?




So many artifacts but so very little in terms of telling us what these people did to be able to barter for gold. The other finds constitute a pair of worked bones that look like large toothpicks or even penis pins; bones of now long-gone wild pigs and deer; and plenty of devorated earthenware fragments as well as a fragment of a clay pipe.





Do you have thoughts of coming up with a book on Boljoon diggings?




Yes but not only of Boljoon as it would be too slim a volume. I am preparing a manuscript for a coffee table type of book about the archaeology of cebu.




You have prominently placed Boljoon in the archaeological and tourism map, will they be making you as adopted SON soon?

Congratz and wa ko masayop in calling you as CEBU'S THE MAN :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

haha. i have done my share lang. thanks....you too can...by financing future excavations with your millions! hehe

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:24 PM
congratulations @Archaeologue!!!

thanks, @Gee.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:24 PM
congratulations @Archaeologue!!!

thanks, @Gee.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Congrats Sir Jobers....Wow, daghana gud diay makuykoy sa Cebu oi.

thanks, @Sleepwalker. actually the finds are not representative of the hopes for archaeloogy in Cebu. so much has been looted here that the last places to dig would be on government or church properties as these are off limits to looters.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Congrats Sir Jobers....Wow, daghana gud diay makuykoy sa Cebu oi.

thanks, @Sleepwalker. actually the finds are not representative of the hopes for archaeloogy in Cebu. so much has been looted here that the last places to dig would be on government or church properties as these are off limits to looters.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Wow! Congrats again Archaeologue!

Thanks, Ang Bantayanon.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:26 PM
Wow! Congrats again Archaeologue!

Thanks, Ang Bantayanon.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:30 PM
Fino ang workmanship sa chain, at this point would you have ideas where this chain was made?

i think this was made by local craftsmen in Cebu, Samar, Leyte, or Butuan. this type of necklace, called "Inahas" by natives or "bejiquillos" by early Spanish conquistadors, were quite common in Central Philippines.

archaeologue
April 1st, 2009, 01:30 PM
Fino ang workmanship sa chain, at this point would you have ideas where this chain was made?

i think this was made by local craftsmen in Cebu, Samar, Leyte, or Butuan. this type of necklace, called "Inahas" by natives or "bejiquillos" by early Spanish conquistadors, were quite common in Central Philippines.

gee
April 1st, 2009, 02:18 PM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

gee
April 1st, 2009, 02:18 PM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

gee
April 1st, 2009, 06:12 PM
Boljoon dig yields gold
By AJ De La Torre Updated April 02, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines - People seem to be finding valuables in the most inlikely places lately. First it was money in a dumpsite. Now it is gold in church grounds.

An archaeological team from the University of San Carlos Sociology and Anthropology Department recovered a meter-long continuous loop gold necklace following a month-long dig in Boljoon, particularly in the grounds of the Boljoon Church and convent.

The necklace is believed to have been worn by a female living in the late 1500s.

Jojo Bersales, chairman of the department, said the gold piece was the fifth gold piece unearthed at the site since 2007 in the course of a series of month-long digs.

The latest find, referred to by natives as “inahas” or snake-like, is believed to be between 14-karat to 18-karat gold. It weighs 34.1 grams and is estimated to fetch P22,650.00 based on prevailing gold prices.

Bersales, however, said the historical significance and archaeological value of the piece is of extreme importance that no value can be placed on it.

All the recovered gold pieces form part of the first ever on-site recovery of gold in the Philippines and have been officially recorded by the National Museum as from Boljoon, an eastern coastal town 103 kilometers south of Cebu City.

According to Bersales, the fourth round of excavations began on March 24 and will continue until Holy Wednesday.

Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and the Boljoon Parish priest gave permission for this dig and it is being supported by Governor Gwen Garcia through the Committee on Sites, Relics and Structures. The Municipality of Boljoon, as well as the Boljoon Heritage Foundation, Inc.have also provided important logistical support for the project.

Aside from the gold pieces, other finds also reported were a rare porcelain-covered powder box believed to be used for storing lime and other materials for betel nut chewing. The design of the said porcelain reminiscent of rare and unique wares made during the Ming Dynasty.Another Chinese ware was recovered from a burial site for a female comprised of a dish with a design similar to mass-produced Zhangzhou wares. (/JST) (THE FREEMAN)

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454457

gee
April 1st, 2009, 06:12 PM
Boljoon dig yields gold
By AJ De La Torre Updated April 02, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines - People seem to be finding valuables in the most inlikely places lately. First it was money in a dumpsite. Now it is gold in church grounds.

An archaeological team from the University of San Carlos Sociology and Anthropology Department recovered a meter-long continuous loop gold necklace following a month-long dig in Boljoon, particularly in the grounds of the Boljoon Church and convent.

The necklace is believed to have been worn by a female living in the late 1500s.

Jojo Bersales, chairman of the department, said the gold piece was the fifth gold piece unearthed at the site since 2007 in the course of a series of month-long digs.

The latest find, referred to by natives as “inahas” or snake-like, is believed to be between 14-karat to 18-karat gold. It weighs 34.1 grams and is estimated to fetch P22,650.00 based on prevailing gold prices.

Bersales, however, said the historical significance and archaeological value of the piece is of extreme importance that no value can be placed on it.

All the recovered gold pieces form part of the first ever on-site recovery of gold in the Philippines and have been officially recorded by the National Museum as from Boljoon, an eastern coastal town 103 kilometers south of Cebu City.

According to Bersales, the fourth round of excavations began on March 24 and will continue until Holy Wednesday.

Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and the Boljoon Parish priest gave permission for this dig and it is being supported by Governor Gwen Garcia through the Committee on Sites, Relics and Structures. The Municipality of Boljoon, as well as the Boljoon Heritage Foundation, Inc.have also provided important logistical support for the project.

Aside from the gold pieces, other finds also reported were a rare porcelain-covered powder box believed to be used for storing lime and other materials for betel nut chewing. The design of the said porcelain reminiscent of rare and unique wares made during the Ming Dynasty.Another Chinese ware was recovered from a burial site for a female comprised of a dish with a design similar to mass-produced Zhangzhou wares. (/JST) (THE FREEMAN)

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454457

Mercato
April 1st, 2009, 06:13 PM
Congratulations @archaeologue! :cool:

Thanks @Lord Carnal for the beautiful altars. :cool:

(bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!! Bitau tingali - it's the thought that counts. :lol: Basin pariente sa maong contractor ang nagbuhat niadtong famous Mandaue Waterfalls by the cityhall. :lol:

Mercato
April 1st, 2009, 06:13 PM
Congratulations @archaeologue! :cool:

Thanks @Lord Carnal for the beautiful altars. :cool:

(bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!! Bitau tingali - it's the thought that counts. :lol: Basin pariente sa maong contractor ang nagbuhat niadtong famous Mandaue Waterfalls by the cityhall. :lol:

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 06:56 PM
@padz:

thanks for the detais on the photos pads! makalingaw ug figure out places in old photos hehe as for tres de abril, not much fanfare... flag raising, wreath laying, a reenactment of sorts, then some pagarpar by the politicos... hehe as for me, i'll be locking myself up in my room haha release sa bar exam results hehe

here's a little something i was tinkering with after work... Sketchup:cheers: compare it wit archaeologue's photo... i suspect that the tower was also used as an aljib considering its proximity to the azotea...



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/jesuithouse1.jpg
sir jobers' pic..

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/jesuithouseazoteatower.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Jesuithousetowerazotea.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/jesuithouseup.jpg
gamay lang ang screencaps.. daku ra kaayo nga file hehe

harveharve
April 1st, 2009, 06:56 PM
@padz:

thanks for the detais on the photos pads! makalingaw ug figure out places in old photos hehe as for tres de abril, not much fanfare... flag raising, wreath laying, a reenactment of sorts, then some pagarpar by the politicos... hehe as for me, i'll be locking myself up in my room haha release sa bar exam results hehe

here's a little something i was tinkering with after work... Sketchup:cheers: compare it wit archaeologue's photo... i suspect that the tower was also used as an aljib considering its proximity to the azotea...



http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/jesuithouse1.jpg
sir jobers' pic..

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/jesuithouseazoteatower.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/Jesuithousetowerazotea.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/jesuithouseup.jpg
gamay lang ang screencaps.. daku ra kaayo nga file hehe

sanvalente
April 2nd, 2009, 12:41 AM
Gee@ with so many old pictures of magallanes sometimes i get lost, now you
have made it easier for us.... thank you!

Archaelogue@ Congratulations! you made it again! btw, i have a metal detector which
i used to bring sa beach. i already found some coins and relo nga baratohon ha ha ha don't know if it can be
of help sa Boljoon but it can detect metals at 1 to 1 1/2 feet max, it's P.I. Murag
maguwang lang gamay sa duwaan pero mo tingog man pod... txt me if interested
i can lend it to you.

sanvalente
April 2nd, 2009, 12:41 AM
Gee@ with so many old pictures of magallanes sometimes i get lost, now you
have made it easier for us.... thank you!

Archaelogue@ Congratulations! you made it again! btw, i have a metal detector which
i used to bring sa beach. i already found some coins and relo nga baratohon ha ha ha don't know if it can be
of help sa Boljoon but it can detect metals at 1 to 1 1/2 feet max, it's P.I. Murag
maguwang lang gamay sa duwaan pero mo tingog man pod... txt me if interested
i can lend it to you.

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:35 AM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

But they are planning to replace those statues with better one.

Apil ang Museo Sugbo... :)

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:35 AM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

But they are planning to replace those statues with better one.

Apil ang Museo Sugbo... :)

Taga Bogo
April 2nd, 2009, 07:28 AM
Tiguwang na jud ka, Boy. You were there when we started our first field season in Boljoon on February 7, 2007.

We are now on our fourth field season. The first two are shown in Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 6. The third season last year is in Thread 7.

May edad lang, bahala na kuno tawgo'g kawatan basta dili lang tiguwang :)

Sorry wa kaayo nako mapaklaro ang question. What I meant is how many skeletons or graves had been found so far.


i think this was made by local craftsmen in Cebu, Samar, Leyte, or Butuan. this type of necklace, called "Inahas" by natives or "bejiquillos" by early Spanish conquistadors, were quite common in Central Philippines..

Glad to note that we already had that sophistication at that time


So many artifacts but so very little in terms of telling us what these people did to be able to barter for gold. The other finds constitute a pair of worked bones that look like large toothpicks or even penis pins; bones of now long-gone wild pigs and deer; and plenty of devorated earthenware fragments as well as a fragment of a clay pipe.

So there were deers and wild pigs in Cebu before, which brings to the question which I had asked your museo sugbo person, that was not quite answered, na around what year was Cebu deforested? na opaw, na hairetage :) I understand Cebu's tugas were cut to produce some galleons, but tugas still grows as wild in many rural areas in Cebu today. Was our Cebu hairetaged before spain, the tugas cut to make galleons pa-usa usa na lang or were they stil as plentiful in a rain forests.

"as well as a fragment of a clay pipe" - I assume these are pipes for smoking. Tobacco was introduced by Spain from the new world. Is it safe to assume then that these skeletons were after Magellan? Were we using pipes for some other things other than tobacco? perhaps some other mind altering substances such as, but not limited to, opium.


Yes but not only of Boljoon as it would be too slim a volume. I am preparing a manuscript for a coffee table type of book about the archaeology of cebu.


Hopefully volume 2 can include the far north na :)



haha. i have done my share lang. thanks....

"my share lang" is an understatement. Dako ang imong contribution. Sige lang igkamatay nimo siguro na naay istatuwa ka :) ha ha ha Ikaw unya ang topic sa future generations of heritage people, tukion ug libakon :) Hopefully ang imong istatuwa dili parehas ug itsora sa Talisay :)

Bitaw uy, congartz again, MORE POWER

Taga Bogo
April 2nd, 2009, 07:28 AM
Tiguwang na jud ka, Boy. You were there when we started our first field season in Boljoon on February 7, 2007.

We are now on our fourth field season. The first two are shown in Cebu Heritage Walk Thread 6. The third season last year is in Thread 7.

May edad lang, bahala na kuno tawgo'g kawatan basta dili lang tiguwang :)

Sorry wa kaayo nako mapaklaro ang question. What I meant is how many skeletons or graves had been found so far.


i think this was made by local craftsmen in Cebu, Samar, Leyte, or Butuan. this type of necklace, called "Inahas" by natives or "bejiquillos" by early Spanish conquistadors, were quite common in Central Philippines..

Glad to note that we already had that sophistication at that time


So many artifacts but so very little in terms of telling us what these people did to be able to barter for gold. The other finds constitute a pair of worked bones that look like large toothpicks or even penis pins; bones of now long-gone wild pigs and deer; and plenty of devorated earthenware fragments as well as a fragment of a clay pipe.

So there were deers and wild pigs in Cebu before, which brings to the question which I had asked your museo sugbo person, that was not quite answered, na around what year was Cebu deforested? na opaw, na hairetage :) I understand Cebu's tugas were cut to produce some galleons, but tugas still grows as wild in many rural areas in Cebu today. Was our Cebu hairetaged before spain, the tugas cut to make galleons pa-usa usa na lang or were they stil as plentiful in a rain forests.

"as well as a fragment of a clay pipe" - I assume these are pipes for smoking. Tobacco was introduced by Spain from the new world. Is it safe to assume then that these skeletons were after Magellan? Were we using pipes for some other things other than tobacco? perhaps some other mind altering substances such as, but not limited to, opium.


Yes but not only of Boljoon as it would be too slim a volume. I am preparing a manuscript for a coffee table type of book about the archaeology of cebu.


Hopefully volume 2 can include the far north na :)



haha. i have done my share lang. thanks....

"my share lang" is an understatement. Dako ang imong contribution. Sige lang igkamatay nimo siguro na naay istatuwa ka :) ha ha ha Ikaw unya ang topic sa future generations of heritage people, tukion ug libakon :) Hopefully ang imong istatuwa dili parehas ug itsora sa Talisay :)

Bitaw uy, congartz again, MORE POWER

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:24 AM
Gee@ with so many old pictures of magallanes sometimes i get lost, now you
have made it easier for us.... thank you!

Archaelogue@ Congratulations! you made it again! btw, i have a metal detector which
i used to bring sa beach. i already found some coins and relo nga baratohon ha ha ha don't know if it can be
of help sa Boljoon but it can detect metals at 1 to 1 1/2 feet max, it's P.I. Murag
maguwang lang gamay sa duwaan pero mo tingog man pod... txt me if interested
i can lend it to you.



Thanks @SanValente, and also thank for the offer sa metal detector but we won't be using that. If plans push through, we will be using a ground penetrating radar (GPR) from Guam this May 2009.

The metal detector won't be of use here given a very disturbed surface pockmaked with nails and metals of all kinds from the Spanish to the present period.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:24 AM
Gee@ with so many old pictures of magallanes sometimes i get lost, now you
have made it easier for us.... thank you!

Archaelogue@ Congratulations! you made it again! btw, i have a metal detector which
i used to bring sa beach. i already found some coins and relo nga baratohon ha ha ha don't know if it can be
of help sa Boljoon but it can detect metals at 1 to 1 1/2 feet max, it's P.I. Murag
maguwang lang gamay sa duwaan pero mo tingog man pod... txt me if interested
i can lend it to you.



Thanks @SanValente, and also thank for the offer sa metal detector but we won't be using that. If plans push through, we will be using a ground penetrating radar (GPR) from Guam this May 2009.

The metal detector won't be of use here given a very disturbed surface pockmaked with nails and metals of all kinds from the Spanish to the present period.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:35 AM
May edad lang, bahala na kuno tawgo'g kawatan basta dili lang tiguwang :)

Sorry wa kaayo nako mapaklaro ang question. What I meant is how many skeletons or graves had been found so far.




34 na as of today but the final two are reburials, or disturbed burials that were reburied at a much later time. nagkasagol na ang mga bukog---so hard to do an inventory.




So there were deers and wild pigs in Cebu before, which brings to the question which I had asked your museo sugbo person, that was not quite answered, na around what year was Cebu deforested? na opaw, na hairetage :) I understand Cebu's tugas were cut to produce some galleons, but tugas still grows as wild in many rural areas in Cebu today. Was our Cebu hairetaged before spain, the tugas cut to make galleons pa-usa usa na lang or were they stil as plentiful in a rain forests.




there is a book entitled "Deforestation in the Philippines" by a former fulbright scholar named David Kummer (of Clark University) who I worked with in 1991 when he was in Cebu to do research on deforestation and erosion here. If I remember correctly, he was able to draw from historical records that in fact Cebu's deforestation was already evident even before the coming of the Spaniards and that the galleon construction only further hastened it.




"as well as a fragment of a clay pipe" - I assume these are pipes for smoking. Tobacco was introduced by Spain from the new world. Is it safe to assume then that these skeletons were after Magellan? Were we using pipes for some other things other than tobacco? perhaps some other mind altering substances such as, but not limited to, opium.



yes, the pipes are of Spanish vintage or at least of the period when Boljoon was already within the orbit of Spanish rule. the pipe we recovered was not in association with any burial but was located at a unit we excavated very near the Baluarte. Within that 2 x 2 m. unit we also found a piece of decorative bone, probably ivory.




Hopefully volume 2 can include the far north na :)



It will include all the excavations done on Cebu since the time of Carl Guthe in 1923-25.




"my share lang" is an understatement. Dako ang imong contribution. Sige lang igkamatay nimo siguro na naay istatuwa ka :) ha ha ha Ikaw unya ang topic sa future generations of heritage people, tukion ug libakon :) Hopefully ang imong istatuwa dili parehas ug itsora sa Talisay :)

Bitaw uy, congartz again, MORE POWER


hahah...let's hope the future will talk of me in a good way hahahahah!

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:35 AM
May edad lang, bahala na kuno tawgo'g kawatan basta dili lang tiguwang :)

Sorry wa kaayo nako mapaklaro ang question. What I meant is how many skeletons or graves had been found so far.




34 na as of today but the final two are reburials, or disturbed burials that were reburied at a much later time. nagkasagol na ang mga bukog---so hard to do an inventory.




So there were deers and wild pigs in Cebu before, which brings to the question which I had asked your museo sugbo person, that was not quite answered, na around what year was Cebu deforested? na opaw, na hairetage :) I understand Cebu's tugas were cut to produce some galleons, but tugas still grows as wild in many rural areas in Cebu today. Was our Cebu hairetaged before spain, the tugas cut to make galleons pa-usa usa na lang or were they stil as plentiful in a rain forests.




there is a book entitled "Deforestation in the Philippines" by a former fulbright scholar named David Kummer (of Clark University) who I worked with in 1991 when he was in Cebu to do research on deforestation and erosion here. If I remember correctly, he was able to draw from historical records that in fact Cebu's deforestation was already evident even before the coming of the Spaniards and that the galleon construction only further hastened it.




"as well as a fragment of a clay pipe" - I assume these are pipes for smoking. Tobacco was introduced by Spain from the new world. Is it safe to assume then that these skeletons were after Magellan? Were we using pipes for some other things other than tobacco? perhaps some other mind altering substances such as, but not limited to, opium.



yes, the pipes are of Spanish vintage or at least of the period when Boljoon was already within the orbit of Spanish rule. the pipe we recovered was not in association with any burial but was located at a unit we excavated very near the Baluarte. Within that 2 x 2 m. unit we also found a piece of decorative bone, probably ivory.




Hopefully volume 2 can include the far north na :)



It will include all the excavations done on Cebu since the time of Carl Guthe in 1923-25.




"my share lang" is an understatement. Dako ang imong contribution. Sige lang igkamatay nimo siguro na naay istatuwa ka :) ha ha ha Ikaw unya ang topic sa future generations of heritage people, tukion ug libakon :) Hopefully ang imong istatuwa dili parehas ug itsora sa Talisay :)

Bitaw uy, congartz again, MORE POWER


hahah...let's hope the future will talk of me in a good way hahahahah!

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:57 AM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.

we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.

four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.

there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.

so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 09:57 AM
wala na koy masulti ... digging sa boljoon, renovation sa cathedral, talisay landing shrine (bisan bati ilang estatuwa, at least they try) ug basin naa pay mga surprises ... mao nga ang cebu heritage thread wala gayud langawa, kay "always" updated sa mga panghitabo ... congratulations sa tanan!!!!

@harveharve - hapit na ang tres de abril, unsa may kalihukan sa mga katipuneros?

the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.

we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.

four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.

there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.

so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 10:41 AM
the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.

we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.

four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.

there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.

so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

waaaaa ..... kadaghan ... salamat @archaeologue for the updates .... NHI should declare Cebu as "Heritage Conservation Capital of the Philippines" ... hehehe :lol::lol: ... How about the propose maritime museum? di ba gi-turnover naman ni Gloria ang Compania Maritima Bldg. sa City Hall ... do we have to wait for the next mayor of cebu city? just asking

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 10:41 AM
the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.

we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.

four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.

there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.

so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

waaaaa ..... kadaghan ... salamat @archaeologue for the updates .... NHI should declare Cebu as "Heritage Conservation Capital of the Philippines" ... hehehe :lol::lol: ... How about the propose maritime museum? di ba gi-turnover naman ni Gloria ang Compania Maritima Bldg. sa City Hall ... do we have to wait for the next mayor of cebu city? just asking

Taga Bogo
April 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM
It will include all the excavations done on Cebu since the time of Carl Guthe in 1923-25.



Though this book is still a work in progress, RESERVE a first edition copy for me. SIGNED ha. So igkamatay nimo, ako ibaligya sa ebay. Historical personality man ka, so I am sure it will command a very very good price :)

Bitaw jokingly aside please reserve a SIGNED copy for me na.

Thanks too for all the clarifications

Taga Bogo
April 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM
It will include all the excavations done on Cebu since the time of Carl Guthe in 1923-25.



Though this book is still a work in progress, RESERVE a first edition copy for me. SIGNED ha. So igkamatay nimo, ako ibaligya sa ebay. Historical personality man ka, so I am sure it will command a very very good price :)

Bitaw jokingly aside please reserve a SIGNED copy for me na.

Thanks too for all the clarifications

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:11 PM
Though this book is still a work in progress, RESERVE a first edition copy for me. SIGNED ha. So igkamatay nimo, ako ibaligya sa ebay. Historical personality man ka, so I am sure it will command a very very good price :)

Bitaw jokingly aside please reserve a SIGNED copy for me na.

Thanks too for all the clarifications

matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:11 PM
Though this book is still a work in progress, RESERVE a first edition copy for me. SIGNED ha. So igkamatay nimo, ako ibaligya sa ebay. Historical personality man ka, so I am sure it will command a very very good price :)

Bitaw jokingly aside please reserve a SIGNED copy for me na.

Thanks too for all the clarifications

matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:14 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

waaaaa ..... kadaghan ... salamat @archaeologue for the updates .... NHI should declare Cebu as "Heritage Conservation Capital of the Philippines" ... hehehe :lol::lol: ... How about the propose maritime museum? di ba gi-turnover naman ni Gloria ang Compania Maritima Bldg. sa City Hall ... do we have to wait for the next mayor of cebu city? just asking

private sector initiative pa ang gi-pursue karon kay way capacity ang city at this time. yes, you are right. let's see what happens after elections.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:14 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

waaaaa ..... kadaghan ... salamat @archaeologue for the updates .... NHI should declare Cebu as "Heritage Conservation Capital of the Philippines" ... hehehe :lol::lol: ... How about the propose maritime museum? di ba gi-turnover naman ni Gloria ang Compania Maritima Bldg. sa City Hall ... do we have to wait for the next mayor of cebu city? just asking

private sector initiative pa ang gi-pursue karon kay way capacity ang city at this time. yes, you are right. let's see what happens after elections.

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:22 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:22 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:51 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:


Yes, I've excavated Tuburan, Tabogon, Liloan and Camotes---all sites there are looted. sayang kaayo, i think USC spent the best of P250t on all these excavations to no avail.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:51 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:


Yes, I've excavated Tuburan, Tabogon, Liloan and Camotes---all sites there are looted. sayang kaayo, i think USC spent the best of P250t on all these excavations to no avail.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:52 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:


Yes, I've excavated Tuburan, Tabogon, Liloan and Camotes---all sites there are looted. sayang kaayo, i think USC spent the best of P250t on all these excavations to no avail.

Thr law requires that all artifacts be deposited at the National Museum. But I have entered into an agreement with NM to bring back the artifacts to Boljoon.

This explains why all the artifacts we found of significance in 2007 and 2008 are now exhibited at the Boljoon Parish Museum.

archaeologue
April 2nd, 2009, 03:52 PM
Sir Jobers, aside from Boljoon, naa pa ba mo mga archeological site nga nakit-an within Cebu province, especifically sa northern part?

And as per protocol, asa man pud na ninyo ibutang ang mga artifacts nga nakit-an ninyo, Sir Jobs? Pwede kaha na siya sa Museo Sugbo?

Excited nako sa libro about history sa tibook Sugbo...:banana:


Yes, I've excavated Tuburan, Tabogon, Liloan and Camotes---all sites there are looted. sayang kaayo, i think USC spent the best of P250t on all these excavations to no avail.

Thr law requires that all artifacts be deposited at the National Museum. But I have entered into an agreement with NM to bring back the artifacts to Boljoon.

This explains why all the artifacts we found of significance in 2007 and 2008 are now exhibited at the Boljoon Parish Museum.

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Thanks, Sir Jobs...I was just wondering as to how big is the pre-Spanish Cebuano civilization. Aside from Datu Lapu-lapu, Tupas, Humabon and Datu Kandaya (my hometown's legendary chieftain), naa pa ba mga lain datu nga sikat sikat before Spanish invades Cebu?

Sleepwalker
April 2nd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Thanks, Sir Jobs...I was just wondering as to how big is the pre-Spanish Cebuano civilization. Aside from Datu Lapu-lapu, Tupas, Humabon and Datu Kandaya (my hometown's legendary chieftain), naa pa ba mga lain datu nga sikat sikat before Spanish invades Cebu?

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM
private sector initiative pa ang gi-pursue karon kay way capacity ang city at this time. yes, you are right. let's see what happens after elections.

are the owners of shipping companies involved in this project? ... kung madayon ni, ang compania maritima bldg ra ba ang maritime museum o apil kanang mga warehouse sa duol, kay basin naa unya dispaly nga galleon o lain lain klasseng barko, para magamit pod ng mga old warehouse diha ug malimpyo ng lugara :cheers:

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM
private sector initiative pa ang gi-pursue karon kay way capacity ang city at this time. yes, you are right. let's see what happens after elections.

are the owners of shipping companies involved in this project? ... kung madayon ni, ang compania maritima bldg ra ba ang maritime museum o apil kanang mga warehouse sa duol, kay basin naa unya dispaly nga galleon o lain lain klasseng barko, para magamit pod ng mga old warehouse diha ug malimpyo ng lugara :cheers:

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 07:26 PM
the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.


kinsa may involved aning naval history museum? philippine navy? unsa may display sa nhi museum? ang national museum, kadto gihapong san diego treasures ... basin eventually pwede na ma "merge" sa maritime museum.

gee
April 2nd, 2009, 07:26 PM
the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.


kinsa may involved aning naval history museum? philippine navy? unsa may display sa nhi museum? ang national museum, kadto gihapong san diego treasures ... basin eventually pwede na ma "merge" sa maritime museum.

Animo
April 3rd, 2009, 09:20 AM
By Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090403-197738/Boljoon-finds-belong-to-national-govt)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:46:00 04/03/2009

Filed Under: Gold & Precious Materials, Archaeology

The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.

“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.

Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”

“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”

But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.

“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.

Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.

“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.

Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.

He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.

Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.

“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.

The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.

“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.

Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.

Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.

Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.

He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”

Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.

Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.

“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.

Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.

Animo
April 3rd, 2009, 09:20 AM
By Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090403-197738/Boljoon-finds-belong-to-national-govt)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:46:00 04/03/2009

Filed Under: Gold & Precious Materials, Archaeology

The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.

“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.

Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”

“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”

But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.

“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.

Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.

“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.

Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.

He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.

Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.

“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.

The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.

“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.

Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.

Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.

Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.

He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”

Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.

Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.

“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.

Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.

archaeologue
April 3rd, 2009, 11:33 AM
^^ ^^

The gold finds are not at the Cathedral Museum. In my interview with Badette, I clearly told her the gold finds are now in Boljoon. I wonder why she got it wrong. The news yesterday also quoted me as saying thaty Jinulauan is Spanish for "golden". Paet. Jinulauan is a very prehispanic cebuano word.

:ohno:

archaeologue
April 3rd, 2009, 11:33 AM
^^ ^^

The gold finds are not at the Cathedral Museum. In my interview with Badette, I clearly told her the gold finds are now in Boljoon. I wonder why she got it wrong. The news yesterday also quoted me as saying thaty Jinulauan is Spanish for "golden". Paet. Jinulauan is a very prehispanic cebuano word.

:ohno:

archaeologue
April 3rd, 2009, 11:37 AM
kinsa may involved aning naval history museum? philippine navy? unsa may display sa nhi museum? ang national museum, kadto gihapong san diego treasures ... basin eventually pwede na ma "merge" sa maritime museum.

Nope. local ra na. we will just reproduce palns and drawings as well as photographs of Spanish-period naval architecture and shipbuilding. this is just one of the galleries. another one will be about World War II memorabilia found in Oslob and still another will be about the history of Oslob.

archaeologue
April 3rd, 2009, 11:37 AM
kinsa may involved aning naval history museum? philippine navy? unsa may display sa nhi museum? ang national museum, kadto gihapong san diego treasures ... basin eventually pwede na ma "merge" sa maritime museum.

Nope. local ra na. we will just reproduce palns and drawings as well as photographs of Spanish-period naval architecture and shipbuilding. this is just one of the galleries. another one will be about World War II memorabilia found in Oslob and still another will be about the history of Oslob.