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archaeologue April 3rd, 2009, 11:42 AM Thanks, Sir Jobs...I was just wondering as to how big is the pre-Spanish Cebuano civilization. Aside from Datu Lapu-lapu, Tupas, Humabon and Datu Kandaya (my hometown's legendary chieftain), naa pa ba mga lain datu nga sikat sikat before Spanish invades Cebu?
If we go by the looted sites all over Cebu, one can surmise that there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms. you can do the maths by multiplying this with the coastline of Cebu. Each barangay would hjave 30 to 100 families.
Then we can interpolate this with inland settlements which would be a litle bit sparse, like one settlement every 10 to 25 km. inland.
This is not to say that all these coastal sites were settled at the same time. The situation would tprobably be denominated by a 200-year span.
:nuts:
archaeologue April 3rd, 2009, 11:42 AM Thanks, Sir Jobs...I was just wondering as to how big is the pre-Spanish Cebuano civilization. Aside from Datu Lapu-lapu, Tupas, Humabon and Datu Kandaya (my hometown's legendary chieftain), naa pa ba mga lain datu nga sikat sikat before Spanish invades Cebu?
If we go by the looted sites all over Cebu, one can surmise that there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms. you can do the maths by multiplying this with the coastline of Cebu. Each barangay would hjave 30 to 100 families.
Then we can interpolate this with inland settlements which would be a litle bit sparse, like one settlement every 10 to 25 km. inland.
This is not to say that all these coastal sites were settled at the same time. The situation would tprobably be denominated by a 200-year span.
:nuts:
Ang_Bantayanon April 3rd, 2009, 02:07 PM Mga higala, mga tinahud nga sakop niining forum, malipayong ika-111 katuig nga kasaulugan sa sangka sa Tres de Abril.
Anyway, in relation to the anniversary of Tres de Abril today, I would like to ask your opinion on something. It is about my undergraduate paper on a revolutionary, Capitan Aguedo Batobalonos who hails from Santa Fe, Bantayan.
I wrote my paper in 1999 but a colleague copied some things in his master's thesis in 2002. These are the following:
1. Ang Bantayanon (AB) – “When he saw that the town had been abandoned by its officials, a prisoner accused of illegal acquisition of farmlands from Bantayan Island named Aguedo Batobalonos broke out of his cell and freed the other prisoners.” p. 12
Bruhilda (B) – “When he saw that the town was abandoned by its official, Batobalonos also freed also freed the other prisoners.” p. 25
2. AB – “The three men became cabecillas of the revolutionary army of Barili and occupied the town until April 10 when Spanish reinforcements came led by Col. Jose Baldoque.” p. 12
B – “They became the cabecillas of the revolutionary army and occupied the town until April 10, 1898.” (PIT:114/12 roll #13). p. 26
3. AB – “Outnumbered by the reinforcements of the Spanish army composed of the 73rd Tagalog regiment, loyal cazadores and moros from Iligan led by Datu Mandi, they retreated by way of Luhod and came down at Guinbaliwan, Sibonga.” p. 12
B – “Outnumbered by the reinforcement of the Spanish army composed of the 73rd Tagalog regiment, loyal cazadores and moros from Iligan led by Datu Mandi, they retreated to Sibonga.” p. 26
4. AB – “He proselytized with his townsfolk the evils of foreign domination and the excesses of the friars.” p. 15
B – “He proselytized his townsfolk by narrating the evils of foreign domination and the excesses of the friars.” p. 26
5. AB – “We must bear in mind that before an individual is inducted into the Katipunan, he should possess a social consciousness on what is happening in the country and what are his countrymen’s woes against the oppressive Spanish regime.” p. 24
B – He joined the Katipunan and convinced people to possess social consciousness on what was happening in the country and his countrymen’s fight against Spain.” p. 25
6. AB – “Above all, Capitan Aguedo Batobalonos instilled on the minds of his town-mates to resist foreign domination in all aspects even religion.
B – “Then, he convinced “Santafehanons” to resist foreign domination in all aspects, even religion.” p. 26
7. AB – “The old residents of Santa Fe to (t)his day attest that he even possessed an “anting-anting” that allowed him to leap and stand on the top of a banana shoot.” p. 15
B – “He was believed to have anting-anting, making him capable of jumping from one tree to the other.” p. 28
8. AB – Primary Sources
xxx
3. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Roman Catholic Parish of Santa Fe. (1881 – 1900).
4. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Aglipayan Parish of the Holy Child, Santa Fe. (1903-1915).
5. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Saints Peter and Paul Parish, Bantayan. (1850-1900). p. 31
B – A. Primary Sources
xxx
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Roman Catholic Parish of Santa Fe. (1881 – 1900)
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Aglipayan Parish of the Holy Child, Santa Fe. (1903-1915).
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Sts. Peter and Paul Parish, Bantayan. (1850-1900), p. 69
_________
The evidence is very glaring that my work was plagiarized by Bruhilda. I was not cited as source but based on the sentences, it was obviously lifted from my work. I already brought the matter to my superior but, despite several exchange of emails, did not act or refused to act on the matter. Now, my question is, what must I do? Those of you who are connected with the academe, what will you do in cases such as this? I'm connected with a Catholic school, by the way.
Sincerely,
Ang Bantayanon
Ang_Bantayanon April 3rd, 2009, 02:07 PM Mga higala, mga tinahud nga sakop niining forum, malipayong ika-111 katuig nga kasaulugan sa sangka sa Tres de Abril.
Anyway, in relation to the anniversary of Tres de Abril today, I would like to ask your opinion on something. It is about my undergraduate paper on a revolutionary, Capitan Aguedo Batobalonos who hails from Santa Fe, Bantayan.
I wrote my paper in 1999 but a colleague copied some things in his master's thesis in 2002. These are the following:
1. Ang Bantayanon (AB) – “When he saw that the town had been abandoned by its officials, a prisoner accused of illegal acquisition of farmlands from Bantayan Island named Aguedo Batobalonos broke out of his cell and freed the other prisoners.” p. 12
Bruhilda (B) – “When he saw that the town was abandoned by its official, Batobalonos also freed also freed the other prisoners.” p. 25
2. AB – “The three men became cabecillas of the revolutionary army of Barili and occupied the town until April 10 when Spanish reinforcements came led by Col. Jose Baldoque.” p. 12
B – “They became the cabecillas of the revolutionary army and occupied the town until April 10, 1898.” (PIT:114/12 roll #13). p. 26
3. AB – “Outnumbered by the reinforcements of the Spanish army composed of the 73rd Tagalog regiment, loyal cazadores and moros from Iligan led by Datu Mandi, they retreated by way of Luhod and came down at Guinbaliwan, Sibonga.” p. 12
B – “Outnumbered by the reinforcement of the Spanish army composed of the 73rd Tagalog regiment, loyal cazadores and moros from Iligan led by Datu Mandi, they retreated to Sibonga.” p. 26
4. AB – “He proselytized with his townsfolk the evils of foreign domination and the excesses of the friars.” p. 15
B – “He proselytized his townsfolk by narrating the evils of foreign domination and the excesses of the friars.” p. 26
5. AB – “We must bear in mind that before an individual is inducted into the Katipunan, he should possess a social consciousness on what is happening in the country and what are his countrymen’s woes against the oppressive Spanish regime.” p. 24
B – He joined the Katipunan and convinced people to possess social consciousness on what was happening in the country and his countrymen’s fight against Spain.” p. 25
6. AB – “Above all, Capitan Aguedo Batobalonos instilled on the minds of his town-mates to resist foreign domination in all aspects even religion.
B – “Then, he convinced “Santafehanons” to resist foreign domination in all aspects, even religion.” p. 26
7. AB – “The old residents of Santa Fe to (t)his day attest that he even possessed an “anting-anting” that allowed him to leap and stand on the top of a banana shoot.” p. 15
B – “He was believed to have anting-anting, making him capable of jumping from one tree to the other.” p. 28
8. AB – Primary Sources
xxx
3. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Roman Catholic Parish of Santa Fe. (1881 – 1900).
4. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Aglipayan Parish of the Holy Child, Santa Fe. (1903-1915).
5. Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos e Entierros. Saints Peter and Paul Parish, Bantayan. (1850-1900). p. 31
B – A. Primary Sources
xxx
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Roman Catholic Parish of Santa Fe. (1881 – 1900)
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Aglipayan Parish of the Holy Child, Santa Fe. (1903-1915).
Libros de Bautismos, Casamientos & Entierros. Sts. Peter and Paul Parish, Bantayan. (1850-1900), p. 69
_________
The evidence is very glaring that my work was plagiarized by Bruhilda. I was not cited as source but based on the sentences, it was obviously lifted from my work. I already brought the matter to my superior but, despite several exchange of emails, did not act or refused to act on the matter. Now, my question is, what must I do? Those of you who are connected with the academe, what will you do in cases such as this? I'm connected with a Catholic school, by the way.
Sincerely,
Ang Bantayanon
rau April 3rd, 2009, 02:23 PM ^^ bruhilda? :lol::lol:
sorry for the OT
rau April 3rd, 2009, 02:23 PM ^^ bruhilda? :lol::lol:
sorry for the OT
Ang_Bantayanon April 3rd, 2009, 02:30 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
Ang_Bantayanon April 3rd, 2009, 02:30 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
Taga Bogo April 3rd, 2009, 03:00 PM matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:
ayaw sad uy daghan pa kang lugar na wa pa ma excavate. Hedge lang nang akong signed book para future proofed akong old age. :)
If we go by the looted sites all over Cebu, one can surmise that there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms. you can do the maths by multiplying this with the coastline of Cebu. Each barangay would hjave 30 to 100 families.
Then we can interpolate this with inland settlements which would be a litle bit sparse, like one settlement every 10 to 25 km. inland.
This is not to say that all these coastal sites were settled at the same time. The situation would tprobably be denominated by a 200-year span.
:nuts:
Your above response seems to open up more questions, my end. I had last visited the Bacolod museum last year. Really cant say about their excavation/digging activities but what I could surmise from the museum display is that Negros was not populated as how you had mentioned cebu as "there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms."
So here goes my pang-kulit questions again.
Is it, there is just not many of their diggings are displayed? or there were really more people in Cebu?
Was Cebu's as trade center the primary reason for the population growth?
Negros has more fertile land area, more natural resources, so why do trading in Cebu?
Taga Bogo April 3rd, 2009, 03:00 PM matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:
ayaw sad uy daghan pa kang lugar na wa pa ma excavate. Hedge lang nang akong signed book para future proofed akong old age. :)
If we go by the looted sites all over Cebu, one can surmise that there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms. you can do the maths by multiplying this with the coastline of Cebu. Each barangay would hjave 30 to 100 families.
Then we can interpolate this with inland settlements which would be a litle bit sparse, like one settlement every 10 to 25 km. inland.
This is not to say that all these coastal sites were settled at the same time. The situation would tprobably be denominated by a 200-year span.
:nuts:
Your above response seems to open up more questions, my end. I had last visited the Bacolod museum last year. Really cant say about their excavation/digging activities but what I could surmise from the museum display is that Negros was not populated as how you had mentioned cebu as "there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms."
So here goes my pang-kulit questions again.
Is it, there is just not many of their diggings are displayed? or there were really more people in Cebu?
Was Cebu's as trade center the primary reason for the population growth?
Negros has more fertile land area, more natural resources, so why do trading in Cebu?
Taga Bogo April 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
kabati na ko anang pangopya kaniadto pa, pero akong nabatian puros lang sad bagolbol sa original authors. Wa ba nay legal remedy bai
Taga Bogo April 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
kabati na ko anang pangopya kaniadto pa, pero akong nabatian puros lang sad bagolbol sa original authors. Wa ba nay legal remedy bai
Mercato April 3rd, 2009, 03:34 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
Ce: Ikiha dayun sa wa'ay duha duha. Panguwartahe sa tanang perwisyo niya para kanimo ug sa imong abogado... :D
En: Sue his ass off.
Mercato April 3rd, 2009, 03:34 PM O, taguon lang nato siya ana nga pangalan.
Ce: Ikiha dayun sa wa'ay duha duha. Panguwartahe sa tanang perwisyo niya para kanimo ug sa imong abogado... :D
En: Sue his ass off.
AmbutLang April 3rd, 2009, 04:05 PM Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain2.jpg
A long gold necklace is revealed on the neck area of Burial 29.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg
The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/longchain.jpg
The length of the necklace.
What surprises me how they made the gold chain precision in progressive manner as if done by machine. There were good artisans at those time then.
AmbutLang April 3rd, 2009, 04:05 PM Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain2.jpg
A long gold necklace is revealed on the neck area of Burial 29.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg
The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/longchain.jpg
The length of the necklace.
What surprises me how they made the gold chain precision in progressive manner as if done by machine. There were good artisans at those time then.
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:16 PM the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.
we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.
four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.
there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.
so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!
Yes, how true - so much to do, so little time! Unya nag la-agla-ag pa gyud!
I have one of the books you ordered. The other one on methodology is not available.
Congratulations seems so trite to laud you for the work you are doing in Boljoon. You make mountains move, Jobers!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:16 PM the Oslob Cuartel is also being rehabilitated (still as an unfinished structure ha) to house an open-site museum of naval history, while NHI is busy preparing their own museum within the Museo Sugbo Complex. National Museum is also preparing their own, right across the NHI museum at Museo Sugbo. All these three will be inaugurated during the 440th anniversary of the province in august.
we are also busy preparing for an exhibition of colonial period photographs of the differnt towns of Cebu as well as archival documents, drawings, sketches and plans of public works during the Spanish period in Cebu, to be installed at CICC during the 440th anniv of the province in August.
four photographers have also been hired to document all the heritage sites and structures of every town and city of cebu that have been pre-selected by their corresponding LGUs for inclusion in a coffee table book tentively entitled "Rediscovering Cebu's Heritage" to be launched also in August.
there is also the Cathedral Museum book on Church Heritage of Cebu entitled "Balanong Bahandi: Treasures of the Archdiocese of Cebu" to be launched in November.
so much work to do, so little time but so enjoyable to puruse!
Yes, how true - so much to do, so little time! Unya nag la-agla-ag pa gyud!
I have one of the books you ordered. The other one on methodology is not available.
Congratulations seems so trite to laud you for the work you are doing in Boljoon. You make mountains move, Jobers!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:18 PM matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:
Simbako! Ayaw tawon kay daghan pa kaayo tang buhatunon!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:18 PM matay diay ko'g sayo ani? :nuts:
Simbako! Ayaw tawon kay daghan pa kaayo tang buhatunon!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:23 PM By Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090403-197738/Boljoon-finds-belong-to-national-govt)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:46:00 04/03/2009
Filed Under: Gold & Precious Materials, Archaeology
The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.
“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.
Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”
“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”
But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.
“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.
Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.
“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.
Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.
He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.
Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.
“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.
The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.
“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.
Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.
Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.
Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.
He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”
Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.
Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.
“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.
Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.
Kuyawa aning article ni Bernadette. The line " the gold finds and artifacts we found last year are kept secured at the Cathedral Museum of Cebu" is very chilling. The museum might be in danger of looting - what an irresponsible reporting. Haaaay. I feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:23 PM By Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090403-197738/Boljoon-finds-belong-to-national-govt)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:46:00 04/03/2009
Filed Under: Gold & Precious Materials, Archaeology
The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.
“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.
Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”
“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”
But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.
“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.
Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.
“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.
Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.
He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.
Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.
“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.
The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.
“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.
Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.
Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.
Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.
He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”
Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.
Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.
“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.
Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.
Kuyawa aning article ni Bernadette. The line " the gold finds and artifacts we found last year are kept secured at the Cathedral Museum of Cebu" is very chilling. The museum might be in danger of looting - what an irresponsible reporting. Haaaay. I feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:24 PM ^^ ^^
The gold finds are not at the Cathedral Museum. In my interview with Badette, I clearly told her the gold finds are now in Boljoon. I wonder why she got it wrong. The news yesterday also quoted me as saying thaty Jinulauan is Spanish for "golden". Paet. Jinulauan is a very prehispanic cebuano word.
:ohno:
This is very irresponsible reporting. I find this very chilling as it puts the museum in danger of looting! I can feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:24 PM ^^ ^^
The gold finds are not at the Cathedral Museum. In my interview with Badette, I clearly told her the gold finds are now in Boljoon. I wonder why she got it wrong. The news yesterday also quoted me as saying thaty Jinulauan is Spanish for "golden". Paet. Jinulauan is a very prehispanic cebuano word.
:ohno:
This is very irresponsible reporting. I find this very chilling as it puts the museum in danger of looting! I can feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:30 PM The Novus Ordo altar of the cathedral (which used to be part of the tridentine altar before) is still there.
It's just that there's a very big space between the novus ordo altar and the retablo thus it seems like as if the altar has been removed.
Hi! Thanks for updating us on the Cathedral retablo! Is Fr. Brian home from Singapore? I see you have talked to the maker. Good job! Mingaw na ko ninyo oy! Uli na ko pohon sa 13th.
Ang Karaang Tawo April 3rd, 2009, 08:30 PM The Novus Ordo altar of the cathedral (which used to be part of the tridentine altar before) is still there.
It's just that there's a very big space between the novus ordo altar and the retablo thus it seems like as if the altar has been removed.
Hi! Thanks for updating us on the Cathedral retablo! Is Fr. Brian home from Singapore? I see you have talked to the maker. Good job! Mingaw na ko ninyo oy! Uli na ko pohon sa 13th.
goleyson April 4th, 2009, 12:11 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
goleyson April 4th, 2009, 12:11 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 02:58 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
the Boljoon Parish Museum is very, very well-guarded, with an alarm system donated byfrom MLhuillier.
if ever naa daw mangawat sa gold aswell as all the other more precious items in there, di gyud na taga-boljoon.
i agree.
:ohno:
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 02:58 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
the Boljoon Parish Museum is very, very well-guarded, with an alarm system donated byfrom MLhuillier.
if ever naa daw mangawat sa gold aswell as all the other more precious items in there, di gyud na taga-boljoon.
i agree.
:ohno:
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:00 AM Yes, how true - so much to do, so little time! Unya nag la-agla-ag pa gyud!
I have one of the books you ordered. The other one on methodology is not available.
Congratulations seems so trite to laud you for the work you are doing in Boljoon. You make mountains move, Jobers!
Thanks, ma'am loy...i hope nakaplait ka sa line level kay nawala gyud ang akong aluminum type dri. paet. pangitaon pa to among the myriad euquipments here.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:00 AM Yes, how true - so much to do, so little time! Unya nag la-agla-ag pa gyud!
I have one of the books you ordered. The other one on methodology is not available.
Congratulations seems so trite to laud you for the work you are doing in Boljoon. You make mountains move, Jobers!
Thanks, ma'am loy...i hope nakaplait ka sa line level kay nawala gyud ang akong aluminum type dri. paet. pangitaon pa to among the myriad euquipments here.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:04 AM This is very irresponsible reporting. I find this very chilling as it puts the museum in danger of looting! I can feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
haha...bitaw. pero we also assume that museums always contain treasures. mao nga mga replica gyud ang ipang-display dapat.
here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
the covered powder box and the gold "inahas"
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:04 AM This is very irresponsible reporting. I find this very chilling as it puts the museum in danger of looting! I can feel the danger all the way here in San Diego!
haha...bitaw. pero we also assume that museums always contain treasures. mao nga mga replica gyud ang ipang-display dapat.
here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
the covered powder box and the gold "inahas"
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:05 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
actuallyt, kung naa gyuy gusto mokawat, makawat gyud na...that's why we are going to replace them with replicas after we leave.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:05 AM Congratulations archaeologue and to your team!
As to Parco's report, better add more guards at the museum.. both cathedral and boljoon.
actuallyt, kung naa gyuy gusto mokawat, makawat gyud na...that's why we are going to replace them with replicas after we leave.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:09 AM Simbako! Ayaw tawon kay daghan pa kaayo tang buhatunon!
mao gyud...busa uli na intawn dri...nagpinatyanay na sa new york...daghang buang...basin maabot pa diha sa california. americans have very weak or nearly-absent coping mechanisms when it comes to crisis baya. that's why many of them go into nervous breakdown so rapidly kay wala silay kaistoryahan...(wa pod silay heritage forum? hahahaha).
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:09 AM Simbako! Ayaw tawon kay daghan pa kaayo tang buhatunon!
mao gyud...busa uli na intawn dri...nagpinatyanay na sa new york...daghang buang...basin maabot pa diha sa california. americans have very weak or nearly-absent coping mechanisms when it comes to crisis baya. that's why many of them go into nervous breakdown so rapidly kay wala silay kaistoryahan...(wa pod silay heritage forum? hahahaha).
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:21 AM ayaw sad uy daghan pa kang lugar na wa pa ma excavate. Hedge lang nang akong signed book para future proofed akong old age. :)
Your above response seems to open up more questions, my end. I had last visited the Bacolod museum last year. Really cant say about their excavation/digging activities but what I could surmise from the museum display is that Negros was not populated as how you had mentioned cebu as "there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms."
So here goes my pang-kulit questions again.
Is it, there is just not many of their diggings are displayed? or there were really more people in Cebu?
Was Cebu's as trade center the primary reason for the population growth?
Negros has more fertile land area, more natural resources, so why do trading in Cebu?
The simple answer is that Negros as you picture it appeared to be thickly forested and occupied only by Negritos (or what would be referred to by anthropologists as Philippine pygmies) at the coming of the Spaniards. In fact, this is why the island is called Negros---because the Spaniards got their first encounter of non-Malay blood natives.
The reason for sparseness of population in Negros as opposed to Cebu may have been its thick forests that stretched even into the lowland coastal areas, thus preventing settlement by Malayo Polynesians or Austronesians.
The theory of peopling of these southeast asian islands is very tentative, tricky, and full of conjectures that i would not like to hypothesize at the moment.
But if we go by the record of early Spanish conquistadors, it was clear that Cebu and Panay were already thickly populated or at least had settlements that could support the establishment of Spanish enclaves. And Cebu also showed signs of environmental stress due to the deforestation of large areas even before the coming of the Spnairds.
This alone would account for the opening up of forested lands to slash-and-burn farming or swiddening---the mark of Austronesians or what we refer to as Malays like us.
archaeologue April 4th, 2009, 03:21 AM ayaw sad uy daghan pa kang lugar na wa pa ma excavate. Hedge lang nang akong signed book para future proofed akong old age. :)
Your above response seems to open up more questions, my end. I had last visited the Bacolod museum last year. Really cant say about their excavation/digging activities but what I could surmise from the museum display is that Negros was not populated as how you had mentioned cebu as "there would be one barangay or settlement every 2-5 kms."
So here goes my pang-kulit questions again.
Is it, there is just not many of their diggings are displayed? or there were really more people in Cebu?
Was Cebu's as trade center the primary reason for the population growth?
Negros has more fertile land area, more natural resources, so why do trading in Cebu?
The simple answer is that Negros as you picture it appeared to be thickly forested and occupied only by Negritos (or what would be referred to by anthropologists as Philippine pygmies) at the coming of the Spaniards. In fact, this is why the island is called Negros---because the Spaniards got their first encounter of non-Malay blood natives.
The reason for sparseness of population in Negros as opposed to Cebu may have been its thick forests that stretched even into the lowland coastal areas, thus preventing settlement by Malayo Polynesians or Austronesians.
The theory of peopling of these southeast asian islands is very tentative, tricky, and full of conjectures that i would not like to hypothesize at the moment.
But if we go by the record of early Spanish conquistadors, it was clear that Cebu and Panay were already thickly populated or at least had settlements that could support the establishment of Spanish enclaves. And Cebu also showed signs of environmental stress due to the deforestation of large areas even before the coming of the Spnairds.
This alone would account for the opening up of forested lands to slash-and-burn farming or swiddening---the mark of Austronesians or what we refer to as Malays like us.
Taga Bogo April 4th, 2009, 04:41 AM The simple answer is that Negros as you picture it appeared to be thickly forested and occupied only by Negritos (or what would be referred to by anthropologists as Philippine pygmies) at the coming of the Spaniards. In fact, this is why the island is called Negros---because the Spaniards got their first encounter of non-Malay blood natives.
The reason for sparseness of population in Negros as opposed to Cebu may have been its thick forests that stretched even into the lowland coastal areas, thus preventing settlement by Malayo Polynesians or Austronesians.
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THANK YOU for the additional knowledge.
Taga Bogo April 4th, 2009, 04:41 AM The simple answer is that Negros as you picture it appeared to be thickly forested and occupied only by Negritos (or what would be referred to by anthropologists as Philippine pygmies) at the coming of the Spaniards. In fact, this is why the island is called Negros---because the Spaniards got their first encounter of non-Malay blood natives.
The reason for sparseness of population in Negros as opposed to Cebu may have been its thick forests that stretched even into the lowland coastal areas, thus preventing settlement by Malayo Polynesians or Austronesians.
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THANK YOU for the additional knowledge.
Taga Bogo April 4th, 2009, 04:52 AM What surprises me how they made the gold chain precision in progressive manner as if done by machine. There were good artisans at those time then.
yup, this is really a high level of sophistication. These type of craftmanship requires specialized tools. Perhaps even a pre hispanic version of a magnifying lens. This chain must have cost an arm and a leg in those times.
Taga Bogo April 4th, 2009, 04:52 AM What surprises me how they made the gold chain precision in progressive manner as if done by machine. There were good artisans at those time then.
yup, this is really a high level of sophistication. These type of craftmanship requires specialized tools. Perhaps even a pre hispanic version of a magnifying lens. This chain must have cost an arm and a leg in those times.
Ang Karaang Tawo April 4th, 2009, 07:02 AM haha...bitaw. pero we also assume that museums always contain treasures. mao nga mga replica gyud ang ipang-display dapat.
here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
the covered powder box and the gold "inahas"
Wow, Jo! These are gorgeous to say the least! The gold chain looks even better than the 3 meter -long one you found previously. I'd love to see this!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 4th, 2009, 07:02 AM haha...bitaw. pero we also assume that museums always contain treasures. mao nga mga replica gyud ang ipang-display dapat.
here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
the covered powder box and the gold "inahas"
Wow, Jo! These are gorgeous to say the least! The gold chain looks even better than the 3 meter -long one you found previously. I'd love to see this!
Ang Karaang Tawo April 4th, 2009, 07:06 AM mao gyud...busa uli na intawn dri...nagpinatyanay na sa new york...daghang buang...basin maabot pa diha sa california. americans have very weak or nearly-absent coping mechanisms when it comes to crisis baya. that's why many of them go into nervous breakdown so rapidly kay wala silay kaistoryahan...(wa pod silay heritage forum? hahahaha).
ha ha ha uli na bitaw ko sa 11 pohon. I am aghast at the number of people nga naghuramentado diri! As you said very low level of tolerance for crisis situations.
By the way, am going back to LA tomorrow to go to the Getty Villa. I missed that last week. And a quick peek at Hollywood, that mecca of even crazier people! Will play the tourist bit to the hilt!
Am going to Lowes or Andersen's and Home depot for your line level on Monday. I still have 5 days to do that.
Ang Karaang Tawo April 4th, 2009, 07:06 AM mao gyud...busa uli na intawn dri...nagpinatyanay na sa new york...daghang buang...basin maabot pa diha sa california. americans have very weak or nearly-absent coping mechanisms when it comes to crisis baya. that's why many of them go into nervous breakdown so rapidly kay wala silay kaistoryahan...(wa pod silay heritage forum? hahahaha).
ha ha ha uli na bitaw ko sa 11 pohon. I am aghast at the number of people nga naghuramentado diri! As you said very low level of tolerance for crisis situations.
By the way, am going back to LA tomorrow to go to the Getty Villa. I missed that last week. And a quick peek at Hollywood, that mecca of even crazier people! Will play the tourist bit to the hilt!
Am going to Lowes or Andersen's and Home depot for your line level on Monday. I still have 5 days to do that.
gee April 4th, 2009, 06:14 PM bag-o ra gani naghisgot si jobers ani, giwas dayon sa news ... mora man nig gamhanan si jobers as in "and the word was made flesh" ... dili diay flesh "and the word was made museum" ... hehehhee
Museo Sugbo to house museum on RP history
CEBU, Philippines - The National Historical Institute will be setting up a “Museum on Philippine History” at the Museo Sugbo.
NHI executive director Vic Badoy recently gave the Capitol a check worth P245,000 as initial funding for the project. Badoy said the estimated cost of the “political museum” would be about P3 million.
Badoy said they are optimistic that the “Museum on Philippine History” can have a soft opening by June, with the grand opening in August to coincide with the 440th Founding Anniversary of the Province of Cebu.
Last March 26, NHI officials unveiled the historical marker of the Landing of American Forces in Talisay City, which coincided with the event’s 64th anniversary.
The officials likewise met with the tourism and cultural affairs officers of the cities and municipalities in the province at the Capitol building last Mar. 25 to receive the list of historical personages, events, places and structures located in their respective local government units for the eventual declaration and putting up of markers as national or local historical heroes, events, shrines or monuments.
Visiting Cebu with Badoy are Archt. Veronica Dado, chief of the Historic Sites and Education Division, and Archt. Reynaldo Inovero, chief of the Historic Preservation Division of NHI.
The NHI has emphasized the historical markers should be well-maintained because these are important links to the past, which should be passed on to the youth.
The visiting officials stressed that the declaration of the Cebu Provincial Capitol as a heritage structure is the first in the country where two markers are placed, one with a text in Tagalog and another in Cebuano.
The Museo Sugbo is housed in the old structure along M.J. Cuenco Ave. in barangay Tejero that used to be the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center. – Garry B. Lao/JMO (THE FREEMAN)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=455444&publicationSubCategoryId=107
gee April 4th, 2009, 06:14 PM bag-o ra gani naghisgot si jobers ani, giwas dayon sa news ... mora man nig gamhanan si jobers as in "and the word was made flesh" ... dili diay flesh "and the word was made museum" ... hehehhee
Museo Sugbo to house museum on RP history
CEBU, Philippines - The National Historical Institute will be setting up a “Museum on Philippine History” at the Museo Sugbo.
NHI executive director Vic Badoy recently gave the Capitol a check worth P245,000 as initial funding for the project. Badoy said the estimated cost of the “political museum” would be about P3 million.
Badoy said they are optimistic that the “Museum on Philippine History” can have a soft opening by June, with the grand opening in August to coincide with the 440th Founding Anniversary of the Province of Cebu.
Last March 26, NHI officials unveiled the historical marker of the Landing of American Forces in Talisay City, which coincided with the event’s 64th anniversary.
The officials likewise met with the tourism and cultural affairs officers of the cities and municipalities in the province at the Capitol building last Mar. 25 to receive the list of historical personages, events, places and structures located in their respective local government units for the eventual declaration and putting up of markers as national or local historical heroes, events, shrines or monuments.
Visiting Cebu with Badoy are Archt. Veronica Dado, chief of the Historic Sites and Education Division, and Archt. Reynaldo Inovero, chief of the Historic Preservation Division of NHI.
The NHI has emphasized the historical markers should be well-maintained because these are important links to the past, which should be passed on to the youth.
The visiting officials stressed that the declaration of the Cebu Provincial Capitol as a heritage structure is the first in the country where two markers are placed, one with a text in Tagalog and another in Cebuano.
The Museo Sugbo is housed in the old structure along M.J. Cuenco Ave. in barangay Tejero that used to be the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center. – Garry B. Lao/JMO (THE FREEMAN)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=455444&publicationSubCategoryId=107
flesh_is_weak April 4th, 2009, 06:54 PM But if we go by the record of early Spanish conquistadors, it was clear that Cebu and Panay were already thickly populated or at least had settlements that could support the establishment of Spanish enclaves. And Cebu also showed signs of environmental stress due to the deforestation of large areas even before the coming of the Spnairds.
This alone would account for the opening up of forested lands to slash-and-burn farming or swiddening---the mark of Austronesians or what we refer to as Malays like us.
how come none of these settlements decided to go on a campaign that would 'unite all under heaven'?
* * *
unsay pasabot anang drawing sa powder case? mura lagi na siya ug gadala ug voodoo doll :lol:
flesh_is_weak April 4th, 2009, 06:54 PM But if we go by the record of early Spanish conquistadors, it was clear that Cebu and Panay were already thickly populated or at least had settlements that could support the establishment of Spanish enclaves. And Cebu also showed signs of environmental stress due to the deforestation of large areas even before the coming of the Spnairds.
This alone would account for the opening up of forested lands to slash-and-burn farming or swiddening---the mark of Austronesians or what we refer to as Malays like us.
how come none of these settlements decided to go on a campaign that would 'unite all under heaven'?
* * *
unsay pasabot anang drawing sa powder case? mura lagi na siya ug gadala ug voodoo doll :lol:
LordCarnal April 5th, 2009, 07:58 AM Yesterday at the Cathedral.
The new retablos
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3412579945_2c8e582895.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3413388080_93b4010e7d.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3412589043_2b07556ef6.jpg?v=0
The newly restored pipe organ. It's nice to know that someone will now play this instrument on a regular basis.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3413396910_ff4e0e500d.jpg?v=0
The interiors of the cathedral
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3413398916_6764f14bc2.jpg?v=0
The throne of Vidal. Hehehe, this is the only thing that I don't like. I prefer a simple background for the cathedra.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3412577649_cbcfbe8ef4.jpg?v=0
LordCarnal April 5th, 2009, 07:58 AM Yesterday at the Cathedral.
The new retablos
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3412579945_2c8e582895.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3413388080_93b4010e7d.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3412589043_2b07556ef6.jpg?v=0
The newly restored pipe organ. It's nice to know that someone will now play this instrument on a regular basis.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3413396910_ff4e0e500d.jpg?v=0
The interiors of the cathedral
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3413398916_6764f14bc2.jpg?v=0
The throne of Vidal. Hehehe, this is the only thing that I don't like. I prefer a simple background for the cathedra.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3412577649_cbcfbe8ef4.jpg?v=0
MatudNilaBaby April 5th, 2009, 11:14 AM bag-o ra gani naghisgot si jobers ani, giwas dayon sa news ... mora man nig gamhanan si jobers as in "and the word was made flesh" ... dili diay flesh "and the word was made museum" ... hehehhee
Museo Sugbo to house museum on RP history
CEBU, Philippines - The National Historical Institute will be setting up a “Museum on Philippine History” at the Museo Sugbo.
NHI executive director Vic Badoy recently gave the Capitol a check worth P245,000 as initial funding for the project. Badoy said the estimated cost of the “political museum” would be about P3 million.
Badoy said they are optimistic that the “Museum on Philippine History” can have a soft opening by June, with the grand opening in August to coincide with the 440th Founding Anniversary of the Province of Cebu.
Last March 26, NHI officials unveiled the historical marker of the Landing of American Forces in Talisay City, which coincided with the event’s 64th anniversary.
The officials likewise met with the tourism and cultural affairs officers of the cities and municipalities in the province at the Capitol building last Mar. 25 to receive the list of historical personages, events, places and structures located in their respective local government units for the eventual declaration and putting up of markers as national or local historical heroes, events, shrines or monuments.
Visiting Cebu with Badoy are Archt. Veronica Dado, chief of the Historic Sites and Education Division, and Archt. Reynaldo Inovero, chief of the Historic Preservation Division of NHI.
The NHI has emphasized the historical markers should be well-maintained because these are important links to the past, which should be passed on to the youth.
The visiting officials stressed that the declaration of the Cebu Provincial Capitol as a heritage structure is the first in the country where two markers are placed, one with a text in Tagalog and another in Cebuano.
The Museo Sugbo is housed in the old structure along M.J. Cuenco Ave. in barangay Tejero that used to be the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center. – Garry B. Lao/JMO (THE FREEMAN)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=455444&publicationSubCategoryId=107
why do we need a tagalog marker when cebuano and english should be more appropriate for the cebu provincial capitol building to be declared a heritage structure? the cebuano inscription is for the cebuanos and bisaya who can understand it and english is for other filipinos who dont understand cebuanos such as the visitors from other regions and tourists.
MatudNilaBaby April 5th, 2009, 11:14 AM bag-o ra gani naghisgot si jobers ani, giwas dayon sa news ... mora man nig gamhanan si jobers as in "and the word was made flesh" ... dili diay flesh "and the word was made museum" ... hehehhee
Museo Sugbo to house museum on RP history
CEBU, Philippines - The National Historical Institute will be setting up a “Museum on Philippine History” at the Museo Sugbo.
NHI executive director Vic Badoy recently gave the Capitol a check worth P245,000 as initial funding for the project. Badoy said the estimated cost of the “political museum” would be about P3 million.
Badoy said they are optimistic that the “Museum on Philippine History” can have a soft opening by June, with the grand opening in August to coincide with the 440th Founding Anniversary of the Province of Cebu.
Last March 26, NHI officials unveiled the historical marker of the Landing of American Forces in Talisay City, which coincided with the event’s 64th anniversary.
The officials likewise met with the tourism and cultural affairs officers of the cities and municipalities in the province at the Capitol building last Mar. 25 to receive the list of historical personages, events, places and structures located in their respective local government units for the eventual declaration and putting up of markers as national or local historical heroes, events, shrines or monuments.
Visiting Cebu with Badoy are Archt. Veronica Dado, chief of the Historic Sites and Education Division, and Archt. Reynaldo Inovero, chief of the Historic Preservation Division of NHI.
The NHI has emphasized the historical markers should be well-maintained because these are important links to the past, which should be passed on to the youth.
The visiting officials stressed that the declaration of the Cebu Provincial Capitol as a heritage structure is the first in the country where two markers are placed, one with a text in Tagalog and another in Cebuano.
The Museo Sugbo is housed in the old structure along M.J. Cuenco Ave. in barangay Tejero that used to be the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center. – Garry B. Lao/JMO (THE FREEMAN)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=455444&publicationSubCategoryId=107
why do we need a tagalog marker when cebuano and english should be more appropriate for the cebu provincial capitol building to be declared a heritage structure? the cebuano inscription is for the cebuanos and bisaya who can understand it and english is for other filipinos who dont understand cebuanos such as the visitors from other regions and tourists.
goleyson April 5th, 2009, 04:46 PM actuallyt, kung naa gyuy gusto mokawat, makawat gyud na...that's why we are going to replace them with replicas after we leave.
i agree..
goleyson April 5th, 2009, 04:46 PM actuallyt, kung naa gyuy gusto mokawat, makawat gyud na...that's why we are going to replace them with replicas after we leave.
i agree..
Wolfranz April 5th, 2009, 05:35 PM can anyone share photos of the newly renovated cathedral plaza? thanks :)
Wolfranz April 5th, 2009, 05:35 PM can anyone share photos of the newly renovated cathedral plaza? thanks :)
AmbutLang April 6th, 2009, 04:11 AM Bai @archaeologue naa man sa Cebu Daily News.
http://www.cdn.ph/photostore/news_details.php?id=2095
Boljoon finds belong to national gov’t date: 4/3
By Bernadette A. Parco, Editorial Assistant
The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.
“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.
Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”
“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”
But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.
“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.
Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.
“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.
Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.
He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.
Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.
“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.
The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.
“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.
Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.
Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.
Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.
He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”
Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.
Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.
“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.
Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.
That's a great job well done. :okay:
@archealogue was the person age known with the gold necklace?
AmbutLang April 6th, 2009, 04:11 AM Bai @archaeologue naa man sa Cebu Daily News.
http://www.cdn.ph/photostore/news_details.php?id=2095
Boljoon finds belong to national gov’t date: 4/3
By Bernadette A. Parco, Editorial Assistant
The gold jewelry unearthed by archaeologists from the church compound in Boljoon town, southern Cebu, belong to the Philippine government, not the Archdiocese of Cebu, said archaeologist Jose Eleazar “Jobers” Bersales.
“The artifacts are properties of the Philippine state according to the National Museum law,” Bersales said.
Republic Act 8492 or the National Museum Act of 1998 states that “as a scientific institution, the (National) Museum shall continue to conduct basic and systematic research programs combining integrated laboratory and field work in anthropology and archeology, geology and paleontology, botany and zoology.”
“It shall maintain reference collections on these disciplines and promote scientific development in the Philippines.”
But there is a way for the Archdiocese to take possession of the artifacts discovered in the grounds surrounding the Patrocinio de Maria Parish Church in Boljoon, Bersales said.
“A special arrangement can be made between the National Museum and Boljoon to transfer the gold here. All the other gold finds are already part of a special arrangement with the Philippine government through the National Museum,” he said.
Bersales said Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal and Fr. Milton Medida, parish priest of Boljoon, could make arrangements with the National Museum to bring the artifacts and gold back to Cebu.
“The gold finds and artifacts that we found in the past year are kept secured at the Cebu Cathedral Museum,” he said.
Bersales, who is also the heritage consultant of the Cebu provincial government, has led a team from the University of San Carlos’ (USC) Department of Sociology and Anthropology in several digs around the Boljoon parish. They have unearthed numerous burial sites and artifacts, some dating to pre-Spanish occupation eras.
He said they had uncovered 34 burial sites since February 2007.
Work will continue until April 14 but will be suspended on Holy Thursday and Good Friday.
“So far, we have worked on 170 square meters. The whole site is about a half hectare and we covered only 20 percent. We would need more funds to continue the work,” he added.
The diggings are funded by USC and the Spanish government. So far, the expenses reached a total of P600,000.
“The weight in value (of the gold jewelry) uncovered is only between P50,000 and P60,000. But the historical value is priceless,” said Bersales.
Last Monday, Bersales and his group unearthed a 14-karat to 18-karat gold necklace measuring 1.1 meters long and weighing 34.1 grams from the burial site of a native Filipina.
Experts said the jewelry dates back to between 1580 and 1600, making it around 400 years old.
Bersales said Cebuanos produced a lot of gold during the pre-Spanish era. He cited the Jinulauan River in what is now Toledo City, which used to be a gold panning area.
He said the word “jinulauan,” in the native tongue, meant “gold.”
Before the Spanish came to colonize the island, Cebu frequently traded gold, cotton, rice and pigs with the Chinese.
Because of the recent finds, there are plans to expand the Boljoon Museum to accommodate new displays.
“We are planning to put up another gallery, an archaeological gallery,” he said.
Bersales said his team was scheduled to unearth two more burial sites yesterday.
That's a great job well done. :okay:
@archealogue was the person age known with the gold necklace?
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 09:08 AM for harve and padz gee - more magallanes picture for your puzzle solving
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209magallanes.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209magallanes2.jpg
What is a Garden Day
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209gardenday.jpg
City Hall
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityhall.jpg
Visayan Refining
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209visayanrefining.jpg
Firehouse
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityfiredept.jpg
Bridge
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
San Carlos
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209sancarlos.jpg
Waterfront
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209waterfront.jpg
Nice Car by the road
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209southroad.jpg
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 09:08 AM for harve and padz gee - more magallanes picture for your puzzle solving
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209magallanes.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209magallanes2.jpg
What is a Garden Day
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209gardenday.jpg
City Hall
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityhall.jpg
Visayan Refining
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209visayanrefining.jpg
Firehouse
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityfiredept.jpg
Bridge
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
San Carlos
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209sancarlos.jpg
Waterfront
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209waterfront.jpg
Nice Car by the road
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209southroad.jpg
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 09:22 AM Japanese nurses in Cebu
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/HapnursesinCebu2-1.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/HapnursesinCebu1.jpg
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 09:22 AM Japanese nurses in Cebu
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/HapnursesinCebu2-1.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/HapnursesinCebu1.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:26 PM for harve and padz gee - more magallanes picture for your puzzle solving
Firehouse
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityfiredept.jpg
Bridge
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
thank you @Taga Bogo for the new pictures. bag-o na pod ni sa ebay? kanang fire station mura man na ug ang old convent of parian, which survived the demolition by the spanish authorities in late 1800s ... kanang taytayan mao man ng sa tres de abril
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.
This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:26 PM for harve and padz gee - more magallanes picture for your puzzle solving
Firehouse
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityfiredept.jpg
Bridge
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
thank you @Taga Bogo for the new pictures. bag-o na pod ni sa ebay? kanang fire station mura man na ug ang old convent of parian, which survived the demolition by the spanish authorities in late 1800s ... kanang taytayan mao man ng sa tres de abril
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
Tres de Abril Street with the Sanciangko Bridge in the background. That corner near the house is where B.Aranas St. starts.
This bridge may not have been in existence during Spanish times since the Spanish soldiers/voluntarios marched onto Weyler via Puente de la Revolucion at the terminus of Colon and Panganiban Streets.
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:50 PM i think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
interior sto. nino basilica
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_010.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_009.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_005.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539510_o.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:50 PM i think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
interior sto. nino basilica
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_010.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_009.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_005.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539510_o.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:54 PM San Juan ... mao tingali morag nangabasa ni sila sa picture
http://i5.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/3f/df/9fc6_1.JPG
Dalaguete Bridge
http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/3f/e4/5d99_1.JPG
Magallanes (again!!)
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539510_tp.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:54 PM San Juan ... mao tingali morag nangabasa ni sila sa picture
http://i5.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/3f/df/9fc6_1.JPG
Dalaguete Bridge
http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/3f/e4/5d99_1.JPG
Magallanes (again!!)
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539510_tp.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:57 PM don sergio
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/248181441_o.jpg
carreta cemetery (?)
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_012.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_026.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 01:57 PM don sergio
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/248181441_o.jpg
carreta cemetery (?)
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_012.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_026.jpg
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 02:41 PM i think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
" think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano" - I have heard of club americano so many times, had also seen so many front view pictures. Never had noticed the club from this perspective. Cant wait for the finished puzzle you and harve had started. :) Kaayo nako sa, kamo buhat sa detedtive work igo lang ko mo-aprecciate :)
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 02:41 PM i think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
" think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano" - I have heard of club americano so many times, had also seen so many front view pictures. Never had noticed the club from this perspective. Cant wait for the finished puzzle you and harve had started. :) Kaayo nako sa, kamo buhat sa detedtive work igo lang ko mo-aprecciate :)
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 02:54 PM thank you @Taga Bogo for the new pictures. bag-o na pod ni sa ebay? kanang fire station mura man na ug ang old convent of parian, which survived the demolition by the spanish authorities in late 1800s ... kanang taytayan mao man ng sa tres de abril
whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
Taga Bogo April 6th, 2009, 02:54 PM thank you @Taga Bogo for the new pictures. bag-o na pod ni sa ebay? kanang fire station mura man na ug ang old convent of parian, which survived the demolition by the spanish authorities in late 1800s ... kanang taytayan mao man ng sa tres de abril
whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
Ang_Bantayanon April 6th, 2009, 03:00 PM whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
Sayang kung lain makapalit ini.. Anyway, sadly, the heritage movement we have today is still in its infancy and quite elitist.. Bitaw! Kay ang mamalit nianang mga litratoha mga tubig-tubigan ra man ug dili gyud ang mga pobre but well that's the reality.
Ang_Bantayanon April 6th, 2009, 03:00 PM whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
Sayang kung lain makapalit ini.. Anyway, sadly, the heritage movement we have today is still in its infancy and quite elitist.. Bitaw! Kay ang mamalit nianang mga litratoha mga tubig-tubigan ra man ug dili gyud ang mga pobre but well that's the reality.
gee April 6th, 2009, 03:09 PM " think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano" - I have heard of club americano so many times, had also seen so many front view pictures. Never had noticed the club from this perspective. Cant wait for the finished puzzle you and harve had started. :) Kaayo nako sa, kamo buhat sa detedtive work igo lang ko mo-aprecciate :)
sorry dili diay pier one ... this is a small reclamation project near fort san pedro ... the yellow line in the map is the one on the picture
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8/clubamericano.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 03:09 PM " think this is pier one, to the left is the club americano" - I have heard of club americano so many times, had also seen so many front view pictures. Never had noticed the club from this perspective. Cant wait for the finished puzzle you and harve had started. :) Kaayo nako sa, kamo buhat sa detedtive work igo lang ko mo-aprecciate :)
sorry dili diay pier one ... this is a small reclamation project near fort san pedro ... the yellow line in the map is the one on the picture
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8/clubamericano.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_001.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 03:39 PM whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
gee April 6th, 2009, 03:39 PM whoever is the original owner of these pictures had really taken the fine details of having pictures of a subject from different angles. There was the convent from different perspective, this time 3 de abril. It is such a waste that his collection has been broken up, perhaps never to be complete again. It would have been a treasure if these pictures never left cebu.
Hopefullly, one day, someday, sometime, somehow, some way, some funds can be spared by the govt. for purchasing these treasures and bringing them back to Cebu, where they rightfully belong. Just some wishful thinking considering the many other heritage related activity that has to be undertaken and needing the funds.
i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
MatudNilaBaby April 6th, 2009, 06:45 PM i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
MatudNilaBaby April 6th, 2009, 06:45 PM i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
gee April 6th, 2009, 06:54 PM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
i think at that time that river was still clean ... most probably people from san nicholas went there to wash their clothes ... if you saw those pictures posted on this thread before, you'll notice that the people at that time mostly wore white clothes, no wonder those "hinayhay" look like undergarments
gee April 6th, 2009, 06:54 PM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
i think at that time that river was still clean ... most probably people from san nicholas went there to wash their clothes ... if you saw those pictures posted on this thread before, you'll notice that the people at that time mostly wore white clothes, no wonder those "hinayhay" look like undergarments
harveharve April 6th, 2009, 07:06 PM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
^^^^
Naa may carsonsillo gihayhay (murag shorts) nipis.. usually made of cotton hehehe Wala namay mugamit ug Carsonsillo diba? hehe it somewhat looks like a pair of boxer shorts nga pinstriped with white over blue..
murag naa say longjohns akong makita... unsay local term for bloomers? :lol:
a phrase I often hear from some old timers regarding underwear: "katsa sa sako's' harina" hahahaha
on another note...
The bridge, it looks like a tied arch bridge type...
harveharve April 6th, 2009, 07:06 PM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
^^^^
Naa may carsonsillo gihayhay (murag shorts) nipis.. usually made of cotton hehehe Wala namay mugamit ug Carsonsillo diba? hehe it somewhat looks like a pair of boxer shorts nga pinstriped with white over blue..
murag naa say longjohns akong makita... unsay local term for bloomers? :lol:
a phrase I often hear from some old timers regarding underwear: "katsa sa sako's' harina" hahahaha
on another note...
The bridge, it looks like a tied arch bridge type...
gee April 6th, 2009, 10:09 PM http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_022.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_021.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_028.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_016.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539469_o.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 10:09 PM http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_022.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_021.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_028.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_016.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539469_o.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 10:16 PM http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539459_o.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_015.jpg
gee April 6th, 2009, 10:16 PM http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/1/4/0/7/0/webimg/250539459_o.jpg
http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_015.jpg
MatudNilaBaby April 6th, 2009, 10:18 PM i cant really figure out how they turn abaca fibers into ropes and textiles or whatever was it used for in the olden day.s
MatudNilaBaby April 6th, 2009, 10:18 PM i cant really figure out how they turn abaca fibers into ropes and textiles or whatever was it used for in the olden day.s
AmbutLang April 7th, 2009, 04:24 AM i tried to enlarge .. i think it is
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9742/cebuebay.jpg
another angle
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9669/nagellanscross.jpg
@harveharve, since we already have plenty of magallanes street postcards, perhaps you can reconstruct how the street looked like, i.e., the stores, bazaar, offices
Ang traffic flow sa karaan parejo sa British system.
AmbutLang April 7th, 2009, 04:24 AM i tried to enlarge .. i think it is
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9742/cebuebay.jpg
another angle
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9669/nagellanscross.jpg
@harveharve, since we already have plenty of magallanes street postcards, perhaps you can reconstruct how the street looked like, i.e., the stores, bazaar, offices
Ang traffic flow sa karaan parejo sa British system.
AmbutLang April 7th, 2009, 04:37 AM @padz
hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).
Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)
@haeveharve, himoon moba ang old Cebu City parejo aning web site? scale models of different cities.
http://www.wired.com/culture/design/magazine/17-03/pl_design#
IMO,This project cost a lot of your time and money. You have to be commissioned by the city or province and be paid handsomely commensurate to your profession and title. And also have some assistants who will be sponsored by corporation.
AmbutLang April 7th, 2009, 04:37 AM @padz
hehehe maybe during the Holy Week since I opted not to join the Holy Week Retreat this year... I once planned of making a scale model of downtown Cebu circa 1900 like that by Gismondi of Rome but kuwang pa ko sa research (and time).
Maybe by piece-meal siguro I'll do downtown Cebu hehehe then if naa panahon, make additions on it until mahimo ug full down town.. will scrutinize these Magallanes photos sa building details :)
@haeveharve, himoon moba ang old Cebu City parejo aning web site? scale models of different cities.
http://www.wired.com/culture/design/magazine/17-03/pl_design#
IMO,This project cost a lot of your time and money. You have to be commissioned by the city or province and be paid handsomely commensurate to your profession and title. And also have some assistants who will be sponsored by corporation.
harveharve April 7th, 2009, 06:28 AM @haeveharve, himoon moba ang old Cebu City parejo aning web site? scale models of different cities.
http://www.wired.com/culture/design/magazine/17-03/pl_design#
IMO,This project cost a lot of your time and money. You have to be commissioned by the city or province and be paid handsomely commensurate to your profession and title. And also have some assistants who will be sponsored by corporation.
^^
Time -- I have that (after september tingali since i'm going to retake the bar hayyy :ohno: didn't make it..)... Money---- hahaha wala :nuts: I'm just planning of making a few blocks of downtown cebu... long term project I guess. Model making is one of my hobbies.. but grabe na nang sa wired.com ha! that covers alomst an entire city!
If I'm going to make an entire city, in 3D tingali... not as a scale model... makabuang na oi if wala koy team! hahaha :bash: (and a handsome grant from the city heehehe)
harveharve April 7th, 2009, 06:28 AM @haeveharve, himoon moba ang old Cebu City parejo aning web site? scale models of different cities.
http://www.wired.com/culture/design/magazine/17-03/pl_design#
IMO,This project cost a lot of your time and money. You have to be commissioned by the city or province and be paid handsomely commensurate to your profession and title. And also have some assistants who will be sponsored by corporation.
^^
Time -- I have that (after september tingali since i'm going to retake the bar hayyy :ohno: didn't make it..)... Money---- hahaha wala :nuts: I'm just planning of making a few blocks of downtown cebu... long term project I guess. Model making is one of my hobbies.. but grabe na nang sa wired.com ha! that covers alomst an entire city!
If I'm going to make an entire city, in 3D tingali... not as a scale model... makabuang na oi if wala koy team! hahaha :bash: (and a handsome grant from the city heehehe)
Animo April 7th, 2009, 06:38 AM Ang traffic flow sa karaan parejo sa British system.
The current transportation system of the Philippines was only implemented after WWII when the Public Works and Highways were dominated by American contractors. Obviously, the European system was introduced during Spanish Philippines. :)
Prior to World War I, countries observing the left-hand rule included parts of Canada, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, parts of Austria, Sweden, Iceland, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, parts of Brazil, parts of Chile, parts of Italy, China, the Philippines, and Burma.
I remember posting an article about it a long time ago. Sorry, I forgot the link already.
Animo April 7th, 2009, 06:38 AM Ang traffic flow sa karaan parejo sa British system.
The current transportation system of the Philippines was only implemented after WWII when the Public Works and Highways were dominated by American contractors. Obviously, the European system was introduced during Spanish Philippines. :)
Prior to World War I, countries observing the left-hand rule included parts of Canada, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, parts of Austria, Sweden, Iceland, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, parts of Brazil, parts of Chile, parts of Italy, China, the Philippines, and Burma.
I remember posting an article about it a long time ago. Sorry, I forgot the link already.
Animo April 7th, 2009, 06:39 AM Cebu Daily News
First Posted 09:10:00 04/05/2009
Filed Under: Religions
AS a house of prayer, a church should offer an an ambiance of solemnity and peace.
This idea guides the newly inaugurated retablo or altar pieces at the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral, said contractor Engr. Robert Cruz, who supervised the installation of three wooden altars.
The retablos are made of Philippine mahogany and wood carving, said Cruz, owner of Vitréartus Glass Art Co. Inc.. in San Pedro town, Laguna province.
A relleve or two-dimensional sculpture of the martyrdom of San Vitale, the patron saint of the Cathedral, as well as his wife Santa Valeria and twin sons - Saints Protacio and Gervacio will be installed just before April 28, the 75th anniversary of the archdiocese.
This is part of the P41-million renovation work done in the cathedral.
The stained glass design “is another expression of art.” The altar pieces have a marble stone finish with gold trimming.
“We did the design, the fabrication, carpentry and finishing following the baroque style design typical of Spanish-period churches,” he added.
Cruz, who discussed the design with Fr. Brian Brigoli, who is in charge of the church rehabilitation, said they wanted to bring back memories of the old cathedral which had a wooden retablo.
“There are photos of the original design. (But) we did not follow the original design, we did not see it would fit the new cathedral,” he added.
Symbols and images of saints are part of the liturgical requirements of the church.
“In the Middle Ages, the stained glass was called the poor man's Bible...This is the method used by the Church to teach the people about the Bible,” he said.
Ten years ago, Cruz designed the stained glass in the Cathedral's sanctuary. He worked on the design of the evangelist, San Vitale and the guardian angel.
“Stained glass is a very prized value, but this is not about the cost of the materials but that of the artistic value,” he said.
“In Europe or the Unites States, they install stained glass designs in all available openings in the church with access of lights,” Cruz added.
Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1.
Cruz, who once wanted to be a priest, said he did not learn about art in the seminary but in his association with priests.
His company, through Carillon Technology Pte Ltd., is also working on the 12 carillon bells, a set of tuned bells, to be installed in the belfry by April 28. Editorial Assistant Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090405-198021/Altar-pieces-stained-glass-renew-cathedral)
Animo April 7th, 2009, 06:39 AM Cebu Daily News
First Posted 09:10:00 04/05/2009
Filed Under: Religions
AS a house of prayer, a church should offer an an ambiance of solemnity and peace.
This idea guides the newly inaugurated retablo or altar pieces at the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral, said contractor Engr. Robert Cruz, who supervised the installation of three wooden altars.
The retablos are made of Philippine mahogany and wood carving, said Cruz, owner of Vitréartus Glass Art Co. Inc.. in San Pedro town, Laguna province.
A relleve or two-dimensional sculpture of the martyrdom of San Vitale, the patron saint of the Cathedral, as well as his wife Santa Valeria and twin sons - Saints Protacio and Gervacio will be installed just before April 28, the 75th anniversary of the archdiocese.
This is part of the P41-million renovation work done in the cathedral.
The stained glass design “is another expression of art.” The altar pieces have a marble stone finish with gold trimming.
“We did the design, the fabrication, carpentry and finishing following the baroque style design typical of Spanish-period churches,” he added.
Cruz, who discussed the design with Fr. Brian Brigoli, who is in charge of the church rehabilitation, said they wanted to bring back memories of the old cathedral which had a wooden retablo.
“There are photos of the original design. (But) we did not follow the original design, we did not see it would fit the new cathedral,” he added.
Symbols and images of saints are part of the liturgical requirements of the church.
“In the Middle Ages, the stained glass was called the poor man's Bible...This is the method used by the Church to teach the people about the Bible,” he said.
Ten years ago, Cruz designed the stained glass in the Cathedral's sanctuary. He worked on the design of the evangelist, San Vitale and the guardian angel.
“Stained glass is a very prized value, but this is not about the cost of the materials but that of the artistic value,” he said.
“In Europe or the Unites States, they install stained glass designs in all available openings in the church with access of lights,” Cruz added.
Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1.
Cruz, who once wanted to be a priest, said he did not learn about art in the seminary but in his association with priests.
His company, through Carillon Technology Pte Ltd., is also working on the 12 carillon bells, a set of tuned bells, to be installed in the belfry by April 28. Editorial Assistant Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090405-198021/Altar-pieces-stained-glass-renew-cathedral)
gee April 7th, 2009, 08:23 AM i think ms. parco should do her homework before making a report. earlier we here at ssc were not so satisfied about her report on boljoon digging. now, she seems to be mixing up retablo and stained glass. those marked bold talks about retablo, and red about stained glass. she did not mention where this stained glass is installed as if the stained glass and retablo belong together. that is my impression. towards the end she talks about stained glass again and concluded "Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1." Did she mean the retablo or the stained glass. :ohno::ohno::ohno:
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 09:10:00 04/05/2009
Filed Under: Religions
AS a house of prayer, a church should offer an an ambiance of solemnity and peace.
This idea guides the newly inaugurated retablo or altar pieces at the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral, said contractor Engr. Robert Cruz, who supervised the installation of three wooden altars.
The retablos are made of Philippine mahogany and wood carving, said Cruz, owner of Vitréartus Glass Art Co. Inc.. in San Pedro town, Laguna province.
A relleve or two-dimensional sculpture of the martyrdom of San Vitale, the patron saint of the Cathedral, as well as his wife Santa Valeria and twin sons - Saints Protacio and Gervacio will be installed just before April 28, the 75th anniversary of the archdiocese.
This is part of the P41-million renovation work done in the cathedral.
The stained glass design “is another expression of art.” The altar pieces have a marble stone finish with gold trimming.
“We did the design, the fabrication, carpentry and finishing following the baroque style design typical of Spanish-period churches,” he added.
Cruz, who discussed the design with Fr. Brian Brigoli, who is in charge of the church rehabilitation, said they wanted to bring back memories of the old cathedral which had a wooden retablo.
“There are photos of the original design. (But) we did not follow the original design, we did not see it would fit the new cathedral,” he added.
Symbols and images of saints are part of the liturgical requirements of the church.
“In the Middle Ages, the stained glass was called the poor man's Bible...This is the method used by the Church to teach the people about the Bible,” he said.
Ten years ago, Cruz designed the stained glass in the Cathedral's sanctuary. He worked on the design of the evangelist, San Vitale and the guardian angel.
“Stained glass is a very prized value, but this is not about the cost of the materials but that of the artistic value,” he said.
“In Europe or the Unites States, they install stained glass designs in all available openings in the church with access of lights,” Cruz added.
Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1.
Cruz, who once wanted to be a priest, said he did not learn about art in the seminary but in his association with priests.
His company, through Carillon Technology Pte Ltd., is also working on the 12 carillon bells, a set of tuned bells, to be installed in the belfry by April 28. Editorial Assistant Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090405-198021/Altar-pieces-stained-glass-renew-cathedral)
gee April 7th, 2009, 08:23 AM i think ms. parco should do her homework before making a report. earlier we here at ssc were not so satisfied about her report on boljoon digging. now, she seems to be mixing up retablo and stained glass. those marked bold talks about retablo, and red about stained glass. she did not mention where this stained glass is installed as if the stained glass and retablo belong together. that is my impression. towards the end she talks about stained glass again and concluded "Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1." Did she mean the retablo or the stained glass. :ohno::ohno::ohno:
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 09:10:00 04/05/2009
Filed Under: Religions
AS a house of prayer, a church should offer an an ambiance of solemnity and peace.
This idea guides the newly inaugurated retablo or altar pieces at the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral, said contractor Engr. Robert Cruz, who supervised the installation of three wooden altars.
The retablos are made of Philippine mahogany and wood carving, said Cruz, owner of Vitréartus Glass Art Co. Inc.. in San Pedro town, Laguna province.
A relleve or two-dimensional sculpture of the martyrdom of San Vitale, the patron saint of the Cathedral, as well as his wife Santa Valeria and twin sons - Saints Protacio and Gervacio will be installed just before April 28, the 75th anniversary of the archdiocese.
This is part of the P41-million renovation work done in the cathedral.
The stained glass design “is another expression of art.” The altar pieces have a marble stone finish with gold trimming.
“We did the design, the fabrication, carpentry and finishing following the baroque style design typical of Spanish-period churches,” he added.
Cruz, who discussed the design with Fr. Brian Brigoli, who is in charge of the church rehabilitation, said they wanted to bring back memories of the old cathedral which had a wooden retablo.
“There are photos of the original design. (But) we did not follow the original design, we did not see it would fit the new cathedral,” he added.
Symbols and images of saints are part of the liturgical requirements of the church.
“In the Middle Ages, the stained glass was called the poor man's Bible...This is the method used by the Church to teach the people about the Bible,” he said.
Ten years ago, Cruz designed the stained glass in the Cathedral's sanctuary. He worked on the design of the evangelist, San Vitale and the guardian angel.
“Stained glass is a very prized value, but this is not about the cost of the materials but that of the artistic value,” he said.
“In Europe or the Unites States, they install stained glass designs in all available openings in the church with access of lights,” Cruz added.
Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1.
Cruz, who once wanted to be a priest, said he did not learn about art in the seminary but in his association with priests.
His company, through Carillon Technology Pte Ltd., is also working on the 12 carillon bells, a set of tuned bells, to be installed in the belfry by April 28. Editorial Assistant Ma. Bernadette A. Parco (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090405-198021/Altar-pieces-stained-glass-renew-cathedral)
archaeologue April 7th, 2009, 09:17 AM how come none of these settlements decided to go on a campaign that would 'unite all under heaven'?
* * *
because unlike Central and South American peoples (Aztecs, Maya and Incas) or Egyptians, there was no central authority nor a chiefdom in the true sense of the term...just a few barangays joined together by temporary aliances (usually sealed with the marriage of a son of the datu of Banrangay A with the daughter of Barangay B) and unsealed when a new chief came into the picture.
No one really had enough men and arms (spears, arrow, slingshots, lances etc.) to conquer and ensalve other settlements that would eventually lead to the creation of a priestly and a kingly or chiefly class (over an enslaved or at least grudgingly supportive, tributary group of barangays) the way it evolved among the Egyptians, the Maya, the Aztecs and the Incas.
IMO there are four possible factors why no single overarching centralized chiefdom ever happened here (a la Sri Vijaya or Madjapahit): 1) the absence of large and long-term sources of water found over a very large area); 2) the absence of a warrior class or a group dedicated solely to fighting in order to expand territory; 3) and the absence of a set of priests that could help re-define the world as it expanded under a single chiefly class; anmd 4) the Spanish conquest, which ended incipient "chiefdoms" like those of Tondo, Tanjay, Panglao, Cebu etc.
unsay pasabot anang drawing sa powder case? mura lagi na siya ug gadala ug voodoo doll :lol:
no need to read anything sinister about this.
it's just a boy holding a puppet on a stick---a very common feature of childhood in ancient as well as modern China.
archaeologue April 7th, 2009, 09:17 AM how come none of these settlements decided to go on a campaign that would 'unite all under heaven'?
* * *
because unlike Central and South American peoples (Aztecs, Maya and Incas) or Egyptians, there was no central authority nor a chiefdom in the true sense of the term...just a few barangays joined together by temporary aliances (usually sealed with the marriage of a son of the datu of Banrangay A with the daughter of Barangay B) and unsealed when a new chief came into the picture.
No one really had enough men and arms (spears, arrow, slingshots, lances etc.) to conquer and ensalve other settlements that would eventually lead to the creation of a priestly and a kingly or chiefly class (over an enslaved or at least grudgingly supportive, tributary group of barangays) the way it evolved among the Egyptians, the Maya, the Aztecs and the Incas.
IMO there are four possible factors why no single overarching centralized chiefdom ever happened here (a la Sri Vijaya or Madjapahit): 1) the absence of large and long-term sources of water found over a very large area); 2) the absence of a warrior class or a group dedicated solely to fighting in order to expand territory; 3) and the absence of a set of priests that could help re-define the world as it expanded under a single chiefly class; anmd 4) the Spanish conquest, which ended incipient "chiefdoms" like those of Tondo, Tanjay, Panglao, Cebu etc.
unsay pasabot anang drawing sa powder case? mura lagi na siya ug gadala ug voodoo doll :lol:
no need to read anything sinister about this.
it's just a boy holding a puppet on a stick---a very common feature of childhood in ancient as well as modern China.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 7th, 2009, 10:15 AM wow! cool ang mga pictures ha ganahan kaayo ko sauna na mga pictures kay murag european kaayo ang dating ang cebu ai unya karon malas na kaayo kay di nagyud nimo maapreciate ang kanindot sa mga edificios! :ohno:
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 7th, 2009, 10:15 AM wow! cool ang mga pictures ha ganahan kaayo ko sauna na mga pictures kay murag european kaayo ang dating ang cebu ai unya karon malas na kaayo kay di nagyud nimo maapreciate ang kanindot sa mga edificios! :ohno:
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 11:34 AM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
"kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon." - Mao na ang flags gigamit pag signal sa pagsugod sa tres de abril. :)
"unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today" - other than what was mentioned by harve, what the women wore during their monthly periods is a rolled cotton cloth that can absorb the waste.
The central state american farmers used corn cob before their was toilet paper. Perhaps we did ours as the song goes "kung ikaw kalibangon dagan lang sa baybayon, kung ikaw walay ilo ipahid lang sa bato, pili-a ang may sisi ang lobot mo maga-ngisi, pahiri ug merkrokrum ang lubot mo maga lagum" :)
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 11:34 AM kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon. unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today.
"kinsa man nang mga hinay hay dinha mora mana ug mga undergarments sa unang panahon." - Mao na ang flags gigamit pag signal sa pagsugod sa tres de abril. :)
"unsa kahay ilang gipangsul-ob as under garments that we dont use anymore today" - other than what was mentioned by harve, what the women wore during their monthly periods is a rolled cotton cloth that can absorb the waste.
The central state american farmers used corn cob before their was toilet paper. Perhaps we did ours as the song goes "kung ikaw kalibangon dagan lang sa baybayon, kung ikaw walay ilo ipahid lang sa bato, pili-a ang may sisi ang lobot mo maga-ngisi, pahiri ug merkrokrum ang lubot mo maga lagum" :)
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 11:51 AM i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg]
The angle from where the top photo may have had the post covered by vegetation, coconuts and other trees. The same post detailed on photo 2.
The 3rd picture - the bridge arc varies from the the first 2. The first 2 are shorter while the 3rd is longer. The shape of the arc of the first 2 pictures most probably indicate that there will be or was a second arc. The 3rd picture has a single arc spanning the entire river. I would think that the first 2 were taken first and the 3rd a picture of a reconstructed bridge.
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 11:51 AM i think they were not taken at the same time. just check some of these details
unfinished bridge, no electrical post
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/2/photos/80/1200x1200/138/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=l1QCOg7gfWJwczc%2Cf5Y78g&nmid=220408565
unfinished bridge, one electrical post visible
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209bridge.jpg]
The angle from where the top photo may have had the post covered by vegetation, coconuts and other trees. The same post detailed on photo 2.
The 3rd picture - the bridge arc varies from the the first 2. The first 2 are shorter while the 3rd is longer. The shape of the arc of the first 2 pictures most probably indicate that there will be or was a second arc. The 3rd picture has a single arc spanning the entire river. I would think that the first 2 were taken first and the 3rd a picture of a reconstructed bridge.
finished bridge, electrical posts
http://images.harveharve.multiply.com/image/1/photos/80/1200x1200/105/tres-de-abril.jpg?et=BaphhzE%2CYZ53fpAZRK%2CQLg&nmid=220408565
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 12:24 PM ^^
Time -- I have that (after september tingali since i'm going to retake the bar hayyy :ohno: didn't make it..)... Money---- hahaha wala :nuts: I'm just planning of making a few blocks of downtown cebu... long term project I guess. Model making is one of my hobbies.. but grabe na nang sa wired.com ha! that covers alomst an entire city!
If I'm going to make an entire city, in 3D tingali... not as a scale model... makabuang na oi if wala koy team! hahaha :bash: (and a handsome grant from the city heehehe)
I am sure you'll have your day in court yet. As they say, if at first you dont...
WOW an entire city in 3D, ka nindot ana.
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 12:24 PM ^^
Time -- I have that (after september tingali since i'm going to retake the bar hayyy :ohno: didn't make it..)... Money---- hahaha wala :nuts: I'm just planning of making a few blocks of downtown cebu... long term project I guess. Model making is one of my hobbies.. but grabe na nang sa wired.com ha! that covers alomst an entire city!
If I'm going to make an entire city, in 3D tingali... not as a scale model... makabuang na oi if wala koy team! hahaha :bash: (and a handsome grant from the city heehehe)
I am sure you'll have your day in court yet. As they say, if at first you dont...
WOW an entire city in 3D, ka nindot ana.
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 12:36 PM Sayang kung lain makapalit ini.. Anyway, sadly, the heritage movement we have today is still in its infancy and quite elitist.. Bitaw! Kay ang mamalit nianang mga litratoha mga tubig-tubigan ra man ug dili gyud ang mga pobre but well that's the reality.
Ni bobarato na bai. Naka amgo siguro sila na mahal ra kaayo. Niadto mga 3-5 years ago, makapalit ka pag nindot nga litrato at around $20, kung makatayming mas minos pa djud kaayo.
Sige lang bai, kitang anad sa huwaw mga dili tubigan mag sige na lang patoo sa laway ani :)
Taga Bogo April 7th, 2009, 12:36 PM Sayang kung lain makapalit ini.. Anyway, sadly, the heritage movement we have today is still in its infancy and quite elitist.. Bitaw! Kay ang mamalit nianang mga litratoha mga tubig-tubigan ra man ug dili gyud ang mga pobre but well that's the reality.
Ni bobarato na bai. Naka amgo siguro sila na mahal ra kaayo. Niadto mga 3-5 years ago, makapalit ka pag nindot nga litrato at around $20, kung makatayming mas minos pa djud kaayo.
Sige lang bai, kitang anad sa huwaw mga dili tubigan mag sige na lang patoo sa laway ani :)
Wolfranz April 7th, 2009, 07:15 PM http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_022.jpg
What are those yellow thingies installed all over the fountain? lights?
Wolfranz April 7th, 2009, 07:15 PM http://app1.sellersourcebook.com/users/1711/cebu_final_batch_april_5__2009_022.jpg
What are those yellow thingies installed all over the fountain? lights?
gee April 7th, 2009, 07:31 PM What are those yellow thingies installed all over the fountain? lights?
i think those are electric bulbs ...
gee April 7th, 2009, 07:31 PM What are those yellow thingies installed all over the fountain? lights?
i think those are electric bulbs ...
Animo April 7th, 2009, 08:59 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2477204238_93f42b923c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2476390831_af0b277e4e_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1410/1435189984_c46d450513_o.jpg
Andrés Reyes y Navales
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José, Jorge, and Carlos Sievert y Barriere
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Jorge Sievert y Barriere (center)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2475464424_7019c1ee0b_o.jpg
Gloria Sievert y Barriere
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/2474646329_c527f0fe95_o.jpg
Dolores Reyes y Cinco and Jorge Sievert y Barriere
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2474646369_41e5b7c544_o.jpg
Remedios Reyes y Cinco and Carlos Sievert y Barriere
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/2474646313_87cf4a1f93_o.jpg
Constancio Escalante, Juan Soquez, José Sievert y Reyes, Jr., Buenaventura Cincunigui
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Gen. Isidoro and Ana Aldanese
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Carlos Aldanese and Carmen Lasso de la Vega de Aldanese
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Vicente Aldanese
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Fernando Escaño y Villareal
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Bruno Aberasturi
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Emiliana "Emiling" Aberasturi y Escaño de González and Eduardo González
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José María "Mari" Aberasturi González
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Carmen Aberasturi González de Teves and son Mateo "Mateito" González Teves, Jr.
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Pilar "Piluling" Aberasturi González de Aldanese and Carlos José "Carling" Aldanese
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Esperanza "Esper" Sala y Escaño de Durán and Agustín "Tinchu" Durán
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Eduardo Agustín "Eddie" Sala Durán
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Ricardo Yrastorza
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Family of Paulino Aboitiz and Emilia Yrastorza de Aboitiz
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Ramón Aboitiz
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Eduardo Aboitiz, Sr. (with Ramón Aboitiz)
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Maribel Aboitiz
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María Luisa "Mary" Oriol Renner de Osmeña
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Casino Español de Cebú Gathering
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Casino Español de Cebú's leadership committee with spouses (L-R): Sr. and Sra. Antonio Adad, Pepita and Jesús Moraza, Magda and Luís Romero-Salas, Luisa and Maximiliano Pando, Amparo "Amparin" and Manuel "Manolo" Palacio, Delfi and Juan Achával, Ana and Vidal Aboitiz, Sofia and Álvaro Pastor, Elena and Fernando Moraza
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At the Casino Español de Cebú (L-R): Jesús Escaño and Eduardo Aboitiz, Sr.
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At the Casino Español de Cebú (L-R): Antonio "Tony" Mendezona, Isidro Moraza, and José "Joe" Moraza
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Manger Yrastorza
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Saturnino de Uriarte and Jesús de Azarloza
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Andrés Reyes y Navales
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José, Jorge, and Carlos Sievert y Barriere
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Jorge Sievert y Barriere (center)
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Gloria Sievert y Barriere
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Dolores Reyes y Cinco and Jorge Sievert y Barriere
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Remedios Reyes y Cinco and Carlos Sievert y Barriere
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Constancio Escalante, Juan Soquez, José Sievert y Reyes, Jr., Buenaventura Cincunigui
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Gen. Isidoro and Ana Aldanese
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Carlos Aldanese and Carmen Lasso de la Vega de Aldanese
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Vicente Aldanese
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Fernando Escaño y Villareal
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Bruno Aberasturi
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Emiliana "Emiling" Aberasturi y Escaño de González and Eduardo González
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José María "Mari" Aberasturi González
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Carmen Aberasturi González de Teves and son Mateo "Mateito" González Teves, Jr.
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Pilar "Piluling" Aberasturi González de Aldanese and Carlos José "Carling" Aldanese
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Esperanza "Esper" Sala y Escaño de Durán and Agustín "Tinchu" Durán
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Eduardo Agustín "Eddie" Sala Durán
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Ricardo Yrastorza
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Family of Paulino Aboitiz and Emilia Yrastorza de Aboitiz
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Ramón Aboitiz
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Eduardo Aboitiz, Sr. (with Ramón Aboitiz)
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Maribel Aboitiz
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María Luisa "Mary" Oriol Renner de Osmeña
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Casino Español de Cebú Gathering
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Casino Español de Cebú's leadership committee with spouses (L-R): Sr. and Sra. Antonio Adad, Pepita and Jesús Moraza, Magda and Luís Romero-Salas, Luisa and Maximiliano Pando, Amparo "Amparin" and Manuel "Manolo" Palacio, Delfi and Juan Achával, Ana and Vidal Aboitiz, Sofia and Álvaro Pastor, Elena and Fernando Moraza
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At the Casino Español de Cebú (L-R): Jesús Escaño and Eduardo Aboitiz, Sr.
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At the Casino Español de Cebú (L-R): Antonio "Tony" Mendezona, Isidro Moraza, and José "Joe" Moraza
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Manger Yrastorza
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Saturnino de Uriarte and Jesús de Azarloza
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This is the Don Gil Garcia house a few meters across Casino Espanol. It was used only as a temporary HQ of Casino Expanol when it was renovated about three or four years ago, di ba?
archaeologue April 8th, 2009, 03:00 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2477204238_93f42b923c_o.jpg
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This is the Don Gil Garcia house a few meters across Casino Espanol. It was used only as a temporary HQ of Casino Expanol when it was renovated about three or four years ago, di ba?
Ang Karaang Tawo April 8th, 2009, 04:10 AM This is the Don Gil Garcia house a few meters across Casino Espanol. It was used only as a temporary HQ of Casino Expanol when it was renovated about three or four years ago, di ba?
Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
Ang Karaang Tawo April 8th, 2009, 04:10 AM This is the Don Gil Garcia house a few meters across Casino Espanol. It was used only as a temporary HQ of Casino Expanol when it was renovated about three or four years ago, di ba?
Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
archaeologue April 8th, 2009, 06:38 AM Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
I already told Petite Garcia about that and she said she is only married to a Garcia so she has now idea what the plans are for the house. But I'll ask her again next time we bump into each other---if she is not somewhere in Europe or the U.S. as usual.
archaeologue April 8th, 2009, 06:38 AM Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
I already told Petite Garcia about that and she said she is only married to a Garcia so she has now idea what the plans are for the house. But I'll ask her again next time we bump into each other---if she is not somewhere in Europe or the U.S. as usual.
LordCarnal April 8th, 2009, 10:24 AM I think the problem sometimes is with the editor.
I remember there was this article written by Parco when we went to Dalaguete last year. After it underwent "editing," na usab na ang "message" sa article.
Editors man gud "trim" an article in order to save space and to weed out unnecessary lines so perhaps mao na ang nahitabo sa article ni Parco. I supposed Parco's original article would have been very detailed.
Anyway, the new stained glass windows are located at the transepts. Cruz is also proposing for new stained glass windows in the facade.
Aside from the retablo, the stained glass windows and the 12-bell carillon, Cruz is also working on the renovation of the Virgen delos Remedios Chapel, near the entrance. Nindot napod tan-awn ang iyang altar, hehehe. I think he's also working on the Blessed Sacrament Chapel, whose renovation is not yet finished as of this post.
i think ms. parco should do her homework before making a report. earlier we here at ssc were not so satisfied about her report on boljoon digging. now, she seems to be mixing up retablo and stained glass. those marked bold talks about retablo, and red about stained glass. she did not mention where this stained glass is installed as if the stained glass and retablo belong together. that is my impression. towards the end she talks about stained glass again and concluded "Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1." Did she mean the retablo or the stained glass. :ohno::ohno::ohno:
LordCarnal April 8th, 2009, 10:24 AM I think the problem sometimes is with the editor.
I remember there was this article written by Parco when we went to Dalaguete last year. After it underwent "editing," na usab na ang "message" sa article.
Editors man gud "trim" an article in order to save space and to weed out unnecessary lines so perhaps mao na ang nahitabo sa article ni Parco. I supposed Parco's original article would have been very detailed.
Anyway, the new stained glass windows are located at the transepts. Cruz is also proposing for new stained glass windows in the facade.
Aside from the retablo, the stained glass windows and the 12-bell carillon, Cruz is also working on the renovation of the Virgen delos Remedios Chapel, near the entrance. Nindot napod tan-awn ang iyang altar, hehehe. I think he's also working on the Blessed Sacrament Chapel, whose renovation is not yet finished as of this post.
i think ms. parco should do her homework before making a report. earlier we here at ssc were not so satisfied about her report on boljoon digging. now, she seems to be mixing up retablo and stained glass. those marked bold talks about retablo, and red about stained glass. she did not mention where this stained glass is installed as if the stained glass and retablo belong together. that is my impression. towards the end she talks about stained glass again and concluded "Work was finished in time for the Chrism Mass last April 1." Did she mean the retablo or the stained glass. :ohno::ohno::ohno:
Ang_Bantayanon April 8th, 2009, 03:12 PM I think the problem sometimes is with the editor.
I remember there was this article written by Parco when we went to Dalaguete last year. After it underwent "editing," na usab na ang "message" sa article.
Editors man gud "trim" an article in order to save space and to weed out unnecessary lines so perhaps mao na ang nahitabo sa article ni Parco. I supposed Parco's original article would have been very detailed.
Anyway, the new stained glass windows are located at the transepts. Cruz is also proposing for new stained glass windows in the facade.
Aside from the retablo, the stained glass windows and the 12-bell carillon, Cruz is also working on the renovation of the Virgen delos Remedios Chapel, near the entrance. Nindot napod tan-awn ang iyang altar, hehehe. I think he's also working on the Blessed Sacrament Chapel, whose renovation is not yet finished as of this post.
That's right. Badet has complained a lot about her work being edited (to save space) and already getting out of context. That's pitiful enough.
Ang_Bantayanon April 8th, 2009, 03:12 PM I think the problem sometimes is with the editor.
I remember there was this article written by Parco when we went to Dalaguete last year. After it underwent "editing," na usab na ang "message" sa article.
Editors man gud "trim" an article in order to save space and to weed out unnecessary lines so perhaps mao na ang nahitabo sa article ni Parco. I supposed Parco's original article would have been very detailed.
Anyway, the new stained glass windows are located at the transepts. Cruz is also proposing for new stained glass windows in the facade.
Aside from the retablo, the stained glass windows and the 12-bell carillon, Cruz is also working on the renovation of the Virgen delos Remedios Chapel, near the entrance. Nindot napod tan-awn ang iyang altar, hehehe. I think he's also working on the Blessed Sacrament Chapel, whose renovation is not yet finished as of this post.
That's right. Badet has complained a lot about her work being edited (to save space) and already getting out of context. That's pitiful enough.
LordCarnal April 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
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LordCarnal April 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/41209cebucityfiredept.jpg
AmbutLang April 8th, 2009, 05:20 PM Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
Ipa donate nalang na nila sa mga heirs unya a tax deduction sa ilang business sa mga Garcia. Mauraman nang mga familiya sa Garcia sa Veco ug ubang stock holdings nila mga dagkong corporations. Unya ngalan dayon "Cebu City Museum de Don Gil Garcia". :)
AmbutLang April 8th, 2009, 05:20 PM Yes, you're right. This is the Don Gil Garcia house which was used as the temporary Casino Español de Cebu. They demolished the old one along the same street to make way for the new (and bigger) building.
In wish some big hearted rich guy will buy the Garcia house and put up a foundation to make it into a museum for Cebu City's history. I can dream, can't I?
Ipa donate nalang na nila sa mga heirs unya a tax deduction sa ilang business sa mga Garcia. Mauraman nang mga familiya sa Garcia sa Veco ug ubang stock holdings nila mga dagkong corporations. Unya ngalan dayon "Cebu City Museum de Don Gil Garcia". :)
Zuburbia April 8th, 2009, 05:40 PM Dalaguete Bridge
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naa pa ni rong dalaguet bridge?
Zuburbia April 8th, 2009, 05:40 PM Dalaguete Bridge
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naa pa ni rong dalaguet bridge?
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:15 AM ^^ ^^
there is another bridge that replaced this one. maybe this particular bridge on the photo above was destroyed during WW II?
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:15 AM ^^ ^^
there is another bridge that replaced this one. maybe this particular bridge on the photo above was destroyed during WW II?
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:20 AM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
yes, indeed! nice!
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:20 AM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
yes, indeed! nice!
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:40 AM @Gee below are photos of our last burial for this season, Burial 39, which as I indicated sa Facebook,was placed over the cranium of this probable female, proabably 16-19 y.o. :
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Some of the tiny animal bones, which were cooked on this pot can be seen near the mouth of this pot, which indicates that this pot spilled over when the decomposition process began. The head tilted leftwards (probably due in part to the weight of the pot) resulting in the corresponding spillage of food items---a bonanza for zooarchaeologists and for my study on prehispanic diet.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/units.jpg
Here's 8 of our 12 2x2-meter units this season...these are the most productive units in terms of new information and data to add to our previous finds. at the rear is another unit with burial 27, a badly fragmented double burial.
archaeologue April 9th, 2009, 03:40 AM @Gee below are photos of our last burial for this season, Burial 39, which as I indicated sa Facebook,was placed over the cranium of this probable female, proabably 16-19 y.o. :
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/erthenwarepotonburial39low.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/earthenwearepot2.jpg
Some of the tiny animal bones, which were cooked on this pot can be seen near the mouth of this pot, which indicates that this pot spilled over when the decomposition process began. The head tilted leftwards (probably due in part to the weight of the pot) resulting in the corresponding spillage of food items---a bonanza for zooarchaeologists and for my study on prehispanic diet.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/units.jpg
Here's 8 of our 12 2x2-meter units this season...these are the most productive units in terms of new information and data to add to our previous finds. at the rear is another unit with burial 27, a badly fragmented double burial.
LordCarnal April 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM ^^
Wow, another great find!
LordCarnal April 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM ^^
Wow, another great find!
overtureph April 9th, 2009, 03:59 PM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
What happened to this old structure?
overtureph April 9th, 2009, 03:59 PM OMG!!! The convent of the San Juan Bautista Church in Parian..!!
What happened to this old structure?
LordCarnal April 9th, 2009, 04:01 PM ^^
Destroyed by war? I'm not sure.
But the church itself became a victim of the conflict with the cathedral.
LordCarnal April 9th, 2009, 04:01 PM ^^
Destroyed by war? I'm not sure.
But the church itself became a victim of the conflict with the cathedral.
AmbutLang April 9th, 2009, 05:12 PM ^^
Destroyed by war? I'm not sure.
But the church itself became a victim of the conflict with the cathedral.
@LordCarnal, diri sa Brooklyn, NYC akong gipuy-an mutira ka tirador sa south direction maaigo ang Parish Church built by the Irish, unya mutira ka sa North maigo ang simbahan sa Polish both Catholic Churches that is the distance sa duha ka simbahan unya in between anang duha ka simbahan naa pud protestante. That is why Brooklyn, New York is called a Borough of Churches. Dili kaayo layu sa amo naapud Inglesia ni Manalo mga pinoy. :)
^^Murag naguba sa bomba ang part sa building kay putul man ang itsura murag naay kulang walay symmetry.
AmbutLang April 9th, 2009, 05:12 PM ^^
Destroyed by war? I'm not sure.
But the church itself became a victim of the conflict with the cathedral.
@LordCarnal, diri sa Brooklyn, NYC akong gipuy-an mutira ka tirador sa south direction maaigo ang Parish Church built by the Irish, unya mutira ka sa North maigo ang simbahan sa Polish both Catholic Churches that is the distance sa duha ka simbahan unya in between anang duha ka simbahan naa pud protestante. That is why Brooklyn, New York is called a Borough of Churches. Dili kaayo layu sa amo naapud Inglesia ni Manalo mga pinoy. :)
^^Murag naguba sa bomba ang part sa building kay putul man ang itsura murag naay kulang walay symmetry.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 04:29 AM ^^Murag naguba sa bomba ang part sa building kay putul man ang itsura murag naay kulang walay symmetry.
no, actually, as LordCarnal has stated, the church of Parian fell prey to the envy of the Cathedral from 1831 to the 1850s. very few people would go to the unfinished, barn-like cathedral because the Parian Church, administered by Jesuits, was awash with the wealth of Chinese mestizo traders living around it.
a long-drawn court case was filed by no less than Fray Julian Bermejo, builder of the Oslob and Boljoon churches as well as the watchtowers that still line the costs of southern Cebu. Bermejo was the provincial of the Augustinians at this time. He was acting on behalf of Cebu Bishop Santos Gomez Maranon, also an Augustinian and the designer of Oslob Church as well as the one who built the kiosk to cover the so-called Magellan's Cross.
in Manila, the Parian tsinoys won but an appeal made in Madrid doomed the church. It was promptly deconsecrated and effectively padlocked by the 1850s, thus forcing the wealthy to hear Mass at the run-down Cathedral.
by the 1870s, the Parian Church was already crumbling. some say many of the church's coral stone blocks or tablillas were removed and brought to nearby Tejero as part of the fabric of Carcel de Cebu, now Museo Sugbo.
the Carcel began construction around 1871-2, right at the very time when the Parian Church was torn down.
only the convent remained and we see it in this photograph. it was not WW II that tore down the connecting church beside it. it was the politics of the local church in late 19th centry Cebu.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 04:29 AM ^^Murag naguba sa bomba ang part sa building kay putul man ang itsura murag naay kulang walay symmetry.
no, actually, as LordCarnal has stated, the church of Parian fell prey to the envy of the Cathedral from 1831 to the 1850s. very few people would go to the unfinished, barn-like cathedral because the Parian Church, administered by Jesuits, was awash with the wealth of Chinese mestizo traders living around it.
a long-drawn court case was filed by no less than Fray Julian Bermejo, builder of the Oslob and Boljoon churches as well as the watchtowers that still line the costs of southern Cebu. Bermejo was the provincial of the Augustinians at this time. He was acting on behalf of Cebu Bishop Santos Gomez Maranon, also an Augustinian and the designer of Oslob Church as well as the one who built the kiosk to cover the so-called Magellan's Cross.
in Manila, the Parian tsinoys won but an appeal made in Madrid doomed the church. It was promptly deconsecrated and effectively padlocked by the 1850s, thus forcing the wealthy to hear Mass at the run-down Cathedral.
by the 1870s, the Parian Church was already crumbling. some say many of the church's coral stone blocks or tablillas were removed and brought to nearby Tejero as part of the fabric of Carcel de Cebu, now Museo Sugbo.
the Carcel began construction around 1871-2, right at the very time when the Parian Church was torn down.
only the convent remained and we see it in this photograph. it was not WW II that tore down the connecting church beside it. it was the politics of the local church in late 19th centry Cebu.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 04:35 AM ^^
Wow, another great find!
indeed! tomorrow, Black Saturday, we will be retrieving the burials for lab analysis at USC. Sunday we rest. Monday we backfill all the units. Tuesday morning, we pack up and leave for the city.
Sometime in May, International Museum Month, we will make our public presentation of our finds at Cathedral Museum, jointly with Museo Sugbo and USC Museum.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 04:35 AM ^^
Wow, another great find!
indeed! tomorrow, Black Saturday, we will be retrieving the burials for lab analysis at USC. Sunday we rest. Monday we backfill all the units. Tuesday morning, we pack up and leave for the city.
Sometime in May, International Museum Month, we will make our public presentation of our finds at Cathedral Museum, jointly with Museo Sugbo and USC Museum.
AmbutLang April 10th, 2009, 04:41 AM ^^Was this the time that the Jesuit congregation itself was pursuit or stock between a rock and a hard place, pardon the expression.
AmbutLang April 10th, 2009, 04:41 AM ^^Was this the time that the Jesuit congregation itself was pursuit or stock between a rock and a hard place, pardon the expression.
Taga Bogo April 10th, 2009, 07:21 AM indeed! tomorrow, Black Saturday, we will be retrieving the burials for lab analysis at USC. Sunday we rest. Monday we backfill all the units. Tuesday morning, we pack up and leave for the city.
Sometime in May, International Museum Month, we will make our public presentation of our finds at Cathedral Museum, jointly with Museo Sugbo and USC Museum.
I am sure it will be very very interesting. Hoping you can post here an invitation for your public presentation
Taga Bogo April 10th, 2009, 07:21 AM indeed! tomorrow, Black Saturday, we will be retrieving the burials for lab analysis at USC. Sunday we rest. Monday we backfill all the units. Tuesday morning, we pack up and leave for the city.
Sometime in May, International Museum Month, we will make our public presentation of our finds at Cathedral Museum, jointly with Museo Sugbo and USC Museum.
I am sure it will be very very interesting. Hoping you can post here an invitation for your public presentation
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 08:54 AM ^^Was this the time that the Jesuit congregation itself was pursuit or stock between a rock and a hard place, pardon the expression.
Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 08:54 AM ^^Was this the time that the Jesuit congregation itself was pursuit or stock between a rock and a hard place, pardon the expression.
Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 08:57 AM I am sure it will be very very interesting. Hoping you can post here an invitation for your public presentation
yes, of course, and invited gyudang mga potential donors for future excavations like you Boy. hehe...i will suggest to the curatorial board to have this coincident with the photo exhibit of colonial churches or at least as a sidelight to it. what say you, Ang Karaang Two and Ang Bantayanon?
The procession is about to start here in Boljoon. Got to go. Ciao!
archaeologue April 10th, 2009, 08:57 AM I am sure it will be very very interesting. Hoping you can post here an invitation for your public presentation
yes, of course, and invited gyudang mga potential donors for future excavations like you Boy. hehe...i will suggest to the curatorial board to have this coincident with the photo exhibit of colonial churches or at least as a sidelight to it. what say you, Ang Karaang Two and Ang Bantayanon?
The procession is about to start here in Boljoon. Got to go. Ciao!
gee April 10th, 2009, 09:16 AM Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
parian was administered by the secular clergy at that time
The first priest of the Parian Church was P. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez, who devoted many years to resisting the Augustinian's efforts to takeover the Parian church; when he died P. Jose Morales was chosen as the parish priest of the Parian [no dates given]; "Fr. Morales followed closely the program and procedures that Fr. Vasquez used when the friars tried again to seize the Parian church. As it turned out, the capitan of the mestizo gremio, Don Pedro Rubi, better known as Pedro Lobo, was not as brave as the previous capitanes"; due to Capitan Lobo, the Parian church was lost (Sales/Go, Ang Sugbu sa Karaang Panahon, 47-48)
gee April 10th, 2009, 09:16 AM Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
parian was administered by the secular clergy at that time
The first priest of the Parian Church was P. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez, who devoted many years to resisting the Augustinian's efforts to takeover the Parian church; when he died P. Jose Morales was chosen as the parish priest of the Parian [no dates given]; "Fr. Morales followed closely the program and procedures that Fr. Vasquez used when the friars tried again to seize the Parian church. As it turned out, the capitan of the mestizo gremio, Don Pedro Rubi, better known as Pedro Lobo, was not as brave as the previous capitanes"; due to Capitan Lobo, the Parian church was lost (Sales/Go, Ang Sugbu sa Karaang Panahon, 47-48)
gee April 10th, 2009, 09:20 AM Teatro Junquera
In 1894 the residents of the district of Parian (in what is now Cebu City) staged a Spanish play titled El Alcalde Interino. The play was performed in the convent of the old church of Parian (destroyed in 1878 because of misunderstandings between the residents and the Spanish friar assigned to the parish). The special guest was Junquera.
Junquera, who was also interested in the theater, commented that the convent is too small for a theater. He suggested to prominent residents Florentino Rallos and Francisco Sales that Cebu must have its own "real" theater and a Colegio de Artes y Oficios. After a few months, Junquera called for a meeting and discussed his plans to create a college with an attached theater in the same place were the old church of Parian was.
But Junquera was not popular with the friars, because of his support for church-state separation. His plans were blocked. When Martin Garcia Alcocer, the bishop of Cebu, knew the Junquera's plans, he immediately ordered the construction of a religious monument in the lot where the theater were to be constructed. He announced that the monument could not be removed because it has been blessed and therefore holy. The friars also spread rumors that Junquera would tax the residents to support his construction project. In the face of opposition, Junquera did not push through his plan for a theater in Parian.
Junquera found a suitable place in Barangay Kanipaan (now the commerce center of the city), the lot of Rafael Veloso. He used his own money to finance the project. Other prominent individuals helped. Marcelo Regner and Rafael de Ocampo designed the arabesque style; Francisco Sales recruited carpenters and painters for the project.
The theater was finished in 1895, a year before Junquera left Cebu. It was, not surprisingly, called Teatro Junquera. On December 16 of the same year, before Junquera left Cebu, a Spanish play were conducted by the Cebuanos to honor him. However, the formal inauguration of the theater was on April 19, 1896.
The theater was later bought by Pedro Royo, a Spanish businessman and a filmmaker. Then it was bought by Leopold Falek and Pedro Rivera-Mir, and finally, by Jose Avila, whose family still own the lot where the original theater was located. It was during Avila's ownership when the name was changed to Teatro/Cine Oriente. As years pass by, the Cebuanos stopped calling it Teatro/Cine Oriente but just Cine Oriente.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inocencio_Junquera
gee April 10th, 2009, 09:20 AM Teatro Junquera
In 1894 the residents of the district of Parian (in what is now Cebu City) staged a Spanish play titled El Alcalde Interino. The play was performed in the convent of the old church of Parian (destroyed in 1878 because of misunderstandings between the residents and the Spanish friar assigned to the parish). The special guest was Junquera.
Junquera, who was also interested in the theater, commented that the convent is too small for a theater. He suggested to prominent residents Florentino Rallos and Francisco Sales that Cebu must have its own "real" theater and a Colegio de Artes y Oficios. After a few months, Junquera called for a meeting and discussed his plans to create a college with an attached theater in the same place were the old church of Parian was.
But Junquera was not popular with the friars, because of his support for church-state separation. His plans were blocked. When Martin Garcia Alcocer, the bishop of Cebu, knew the Junquera's plans, he immediately ordered the construction of a religious monument in the lot where the theater were to be constructed. He announced that the monument could not be removed because it has been blessed and therefore holy. The friars also spread rumors that Junquera would tax the residents to support his construction project. In the face of opposition, Junquera did not push through his plan for a theater in Parian.
Junquera found a suitable place in Barangay Kanipaan (now the commerce center of the city), the lot of Rafael Veloso. He used his own money to finance the project. Other prominent individuals helped. Marcelo Regner and Rafael de Ocampo designed the arabesque style; Francisco Sales recruited carpenters and painters for the project.
The theater was finished in 1895, a year before Junquera left Cebu. It was, not surprisingly, called Teatro Junquera. On December 16 of the same year, before Junquera left Cebu, a Spanish play were conducted by the Cebuanos to honor him. However, the formal inauguration of the theater was on April 19, 1896.
The theater was later bought by Pedro Royo, a Spanish businessman and a filmmaker. Then it was bought by Leopold Falek and Pedro Rivera-Mir, and finally, by Jose Avila, whose family still own the lot where the original theater was located. It was during Avila's ownership when the name was changed to Teatro/Cine Oriente. As years pass by, the Cebuanos stopped calling it Teatro/Cine Oriente but just Cine Oriente.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inocencio_Junquera
bukid April 10th, 2009, 04:32 PM parian was administered by the secular clergy at that time
The first priest of the Parian Church was P. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez, who devoted many years to resisting the Augustinian's efforts to takeover the Parian church; when he died P. Jose Morales was chosen as the parish priest of the Parian [no dates given]; "Fr. Morales followed closely the program and procedures that Fr. Vasquez used when the friars tried again to seize the Parian church. As it turned out, the capitan of the mestizo gremio, Don Pedro Rubi, better known as Pedro Lobo, was not as brave as the previous capitanes"; due to Capitan Lobo, the Parian church was lost (Sales/Go, Ang Sugbu sa Karaang Panahon, 47-48)
we should have burned those agustinians. they're evil.
bukid April 10th, 2009, 04:32 PM parian was administered by the secular clergy at that time
The first priest of the Parian Church was P. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez, who devoted many years to resisting the Augustinian's efforts to takeover the Parian church; when he died P. Jose Morales was chosen as the parish priest of the Parian [no dates given]; "Fr. Morales followed closely the program and procedures that Fr. Vasquez used when the friars tried again to seize the Parian church. As it turned out, the capitan of the mestizo gremio, Don Pedro Rubi, better known as Pedro Lobo, was not as brave as the previous capitanes"; due to Capitan Lobo, the Parian church was lost (Sales/Go, Ang Sugbu sa Karaang Panahon, 47-48)
we should have burned those agustinians. they're evil.
Pinoy_ako April 11th, 2009, 04:07 AM Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
They returned much later, around 1860s, and at first, as teachers for the municipal school. When parishes were turned over to them, the seculars became problematic again.
Pinoy_ako April 11th, 2009, 04:07 AM Haha.Nope. I'm not even sure if this was under Jesuit administration. But the Jesuit expulsion was a century before this, 1767 or thereabouts, if I remember my history correctly, and was restored around 1815. I am not sure if they really returned to Cebu and administered Parian. Ang Bantayanon would know.
They returned much later, around 1860s, and at first, as teachers for the municipal school. When parishes were turned over to them, the seculars became problematic again.
gee April 11th, 2009, 08:54 AM no, actually, as LordCarnal has stated, the church of Parian fell prey to the envy of the Cathedral from 1831 to the 1850s. very few people would go to the unfinished, barn-like cathedral because the Parian Church, administered by Jesuits, was awash with the wealth of Chinese mestizo traders living around it.
a long-drawn court case was filed by no less than Fray Julian Bermejo, builder of the Oslob and Boljoon churches as well as the watchtowers that still line the costs of southern Cebu. Bermejo was the provincial of the Augustinians at this time. He was acting on behalf of Cebu Bishop Santos Gomez Maranon, also an Augustinian and the designer of Oslob Church as well as the one who built the kiosk to cover the so-called Magellan's Cross.
in Manila, the Parian tsinoys won but an appeal made in Madrid doomed the church. It was promptly deconsecrated and effectively padlocked by the 1850s, thus forcing the wealthy to hear Mass at the run-down Cathedral.
by the 1870s, the Parian Church was already crumbling. some say many of the church's coral stone blocks or tablillas were removed and brought to nearby Tejero as part of the fabric of Carcel de Cebu, now Museo Sugbo.
the Carcel began construction around 1871-2, right at the very time when the Parian Church was torn down.
only the convent remained and we see it in this photograph. it was not WW II that tore down the connecting church beside it. it was the politics of the local church in late 19th centry Cebu.
it seems that there was a power struggle between the local secular clergy and the spanish friars in the diocese of cebu during this time since a a number of mestizo-sangleyes rose to the top position in the diocese.
"at least three mestizos had held the office of provisor and vicar-general, the second highest office in the diocese. Archdiocesan organizational charts for 1834 reveal that four of the top six post in the diocese of cebu were held by mestizos." (Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite, 260)
three of the most influential local secular clergy at that time were:
Fr. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez
- Parish priest of Parian, 1791-1829
- provisor and vicar-general under two bishops
- highest-ranking member of the secular clergy during the two periods when the diocese was vacant (1818-1825; 1827-1829)
- credited with using the great wealth of his parish to sponsor major improvements of the Parian Church
Fr. Jose Velez y Morales / Fr. Jose Morales del Rosario
- born in ca. 1785.
- ordained in ca. 1809, probably at the age of twenty four.
- 1818, he started teaching at the Seminario de San Carlos
- 1824/1825, appointed rector of the seminario. he was also the lecturer for scholastic and moral theology.
- 1837/1838, appointed cura substituto of Cebu (Cathedral)
- 1840–1842, cura parroco of Cebu (Cathedral).
- 1843, cura parroco of Parian.
- 1834/1844, appointed Juez Provisor and Vicar General of the Diocese of Cebu
- 1860, retired at the age of 75
Fr. Marcos Veloso del Rosario
- brother of Gavino Veloso del Rosario, a wealthy merchant, and Catalino Veloso del Rosario, a lawyer from Parian
- secretary of the bishop of Cebu
i hope that the archdiocese of cebu through the seminario-mayor de san carlos would initiate a research about the development of the local secular clergy or what was called at that time as "secularization." the local clergy were often regarded by the spanish friars as "second class" priests because they were poorly trained, thus they were not qualified as cura or parish priests. but this was the situation in manila. i have the impression that the situation in cebu was different because many of those who entered the seminary were mestizos who were part of the urban elite. Cullinane said that by 1830s there were 61 secular priests in the diocese of cebu and at least 24 (or 40%) were mestizos.
gee April 11th, 2009, 08:54 AM no, actually, as LordCarnal has stated, the church of Parian fell prey to the envy of the Cathedral from 1831 to the 1850s. very few people would go to the unfinished, barn-like cathedral because the Parian Church, administered by Jesuits, was awash with the wealth of Chinese mestizo traders living around it.
a long-drawn court case was filed by no less than Fray Julian Bermejo, builder of the Oslob and Boljoon churches as well as the watchtowers that still line the costs of southern Cebu. Bermejo was the provincial of the Augustinians at this time. He was acting on behalf of Cebu Bishop Santos Gomez Maranon, also an Augustinian and the designer of Oslob Church as well as the one who built the kiosk to cover the so-called Magellan's Cross.
in Manila, the Parian tsinoys won but an appeal made in Madrid doomed the church. It was promptly deconsecrated and effectively padlocked by the 1850s, thus forcing the wealthy to hear Mass at the run-down Cathedral.
by the 1870s, the Parian Church was already crumbling. some say many of the church's coral stone blocks or tablillas were removed and brought to nearby Tejero as part of the fabric of Carcel de Cebu, now Museo Sugbo.
the Carcel began construction around 1871-2, right at the very time when the Parian Church was torn down.
only the convent remained and we see it in this photograph. it was not WW II that tore down the connecting church beside it. it was the politics of the local church in late 19th centry Cebu.
it seems that there was a power struggle between the local secular clergy and the spanish friars in the diocese of cebu during this time since a a number of mestizo-sangleyes rose to the top position in the diocese.
"at least three mestizos had held the office of provisor and vicar-general, the second highest office in the diocese. Archdiocesan organizational charts for 1834 reveal that four of the top six post in the diocese of cebu were held by mestizos." (Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite, 260)
three of the most influential local secular clergy at that time were:
Fr. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez
- Parish priest of Parian, 1791-1829
- provisor and vicar-general under two bishops
- highest-ranking member of the secular clergy during the two periods when the diocese was vacant (1818-1825; 1827-1829)
- credited with using the great wealth of his parish to sponsor major improvements of the Parian Church
Fr. Jose Velez y Morales / Fr. Jose Morales del Rosario
- born in ca. 1785.
- ordained in ca. 1809, probably at the age of twenty four.
- 1818, he started teaching at the Seminario de San Carlos
- 1824/1825, appointed rector of the seminario. he was also the lecturer for scholastic and moral theology.
- 1837/1838, appointed cura substituto of Cebu (Cathedral)
- 1840–1842, cura parroco of Cebu (Cathedral).
- 1843, cura parroco of Parian.
- 1834/1844, appointed Juez Provisor and Vicar General of the Diocese of Cebu
- 1860, retired at the age of 75
Fr. Marcos Veloso del Rosario
- brother of Gavino Veloso del Rosario, a wealthy merchant, and Catalino Veloso del Rosario, a lawyer from Parian
- secretary of the bishop of Cebu
i hope that the archdiocese of cebu through the seminario-mayor de san carlos would initiate a research about the development of the local secular clergy or what was called at that time as "secularization." the local clergy were often regarded by the spanish friars as "second class" priests because they were poorly trained, thus they were not qualified as cura or parish priests. but this was the situation in manila. i have the impression that the situation in cebu was different because many of those who entered the seminary were mestizos who were part of the urban elite. Cullinane said that by 1830s there were 61 secular priests in the diocese of cebu and at least 24 (or 40%) were mestizos.
gee April 11th, 2009, 09:49 AM members of cebu clergy who came from cebu's landed families
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6880/clergy.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1817/clergy2.jpg
gee April 11th, 2009, 09:49 AM members of cebu clergy who came from cebu's landed families
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6880/clergy.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1817/clergy2.jpg
AmbutLang April 11th, 2009, 10:05 AM it seems that there was a power struggle between the local secular clergy and the spanish friars in the diocese of cebu during this time since a a number of mestizo-sangleyes rose to the top position in the diocese.
"at least three mestizos had held the office of provisor and vicar-general, the second highest office in the diocese. Archdiocesan organizational charts for 1834 reveal that four of the top six post in the diocese of cebu were held by mestizos." (Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite, 260)
two of the most influential locarl secular clergy at that time were:
Fr. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez
- Parish priest of Parian, 1791-1829
- provisor and vicar-general under two bishops
- highest-ranking member of the secular clergy during the two periods when the diocese was vacant (1818-1825; 1827-1829)
- credited with using the great wealth of his parish to sponsor major improvements of the Parian Church
Fr. Jose Velez y Morales / Fr. Jose Morales del Rosario
- born in ca. 1785.
- ordained in ca. 1809, probably at the age of twenty four.
- 1818, he started teaching at the Seminario de San Carlos
- 1824/1825, appointed rector of the seminario. he was also the lecturer for scholastic and moral theology.
- 1837/1838, appointed cura substituto of Cebu (Cathedral)
- 1840–1842, cura parroco of Cebu (Cathedral).
- 1843, cura parroco of Parian.
- 1834/1844, appointed Juez Provisor and Vicar General of the Diocese of Cebu
- 1860, retired at the age of 75
i hope that the archdiocese of cebu through the seminario-mayor de san carlos would initiate a research about the development of the local secular clergy or what was called at that time as "secularization." the local clergy were often regarded by the spanish friars as "second class" priests because they were poorly trained, thus they were not qualified as cura or parish priests. but this was the situation in manila. i have the impression that the situation in cebu was different because many of those who entered the seminary were mestizos who were part of the urban elite. Cullinane said that by 1830s there were 61 secular priests in the diocese of cebu and at least 24 (or 40%) were mestizos.
Pads kadto si Cardinal Rosales de ba mestizo man sad to. Sa early 60's adto manmi manihapon sa Archbishop palace nga Archbishop pa siya, anhaon man ang akong amahan sa opisina niya sa messenger sa Catheral kay duol raman ug suod manto silang duha.
AmbutLang April 11th, 2009, 10:05 AM it seems that there was a power struggle between the local secular clergy and the spanish friars in the diocese of cebu during this time since a a number of mestizo-sangleyes rose to the top position in the diocese.
"at least three mestizos had held the office of provisor and vicar-general, the second highest office in the diocese. Archdiocesan organizational charts for 1834 reveal that four of the top six post in the diocese of cebu were held by mestizos." (Cullinane, The Changing Nature of the Cebu Urban Elite, 260)
two of the most influential locarl secular clergy at that time were:
Fr. Pedro de San Rafael y Vasquez
- Parish priest of Parian, 1791-1829
- provisor and vicar-general under two bishops
- highest-ranking member of the secular clergy during the two periods when the diocese was vacant (1818-1825; 1827-1829)
- credited with using the great wealth of his parish to sponsor major improvements of the Parian Church
Fr. Jose Velez y Morales / Fr. Jose Morales del Rosario
- born in ca. 1785.
- ordained in ca. 1809, probably at the age of twenty four.
- 1818, he started teaching at the Seminario de San Carlos
- 1824/1825, appointed rector of the seminario. he was also the lecturer for scholastic and moral theology.
- 1837/1838, appointed cura substituto of Cebu (Cathedral)
- 1840–1842, cura parroco of Cebu (Cathedral).
- 1843, cura parroco of Parian.
- 1834/1844, appointed Juez Provisor and Vicar General of the Diocese of Cebu
- 1860, retired at the age of 75
i hope that the archdiocese of cebu through the seminario-mayor de san carlos would initiate a research about the development of the local secular clergy or what was called at that time as "secularization." the local clergy were often regarded by the spanish friars as "second class" priests because they were poorly trained, thus they were not qualified as cura or parish priests. but this was the situation in manila. i have the impression that the situation in cebu was different because many of those who entered the seminary were mestizos who were part of the urban elite. Cullinane said that by 1830s there were 61 secular priests in the diocese of cebu and at least 24 (or 40%) were mestizos.
Pads kadto si Cardinal Rosales de ba mestizo man sad to. Sa early 60's adto manmi manihapon sa Archbishop palace nga Archbishop pa siya, anhaon man ang akong amahan sa opisina niya sa messenger sa Catheral kay duol raman ug suod manto silang duha.
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:25 AM Pads kadto si Cardinal Rosales de ba mestizo man sad to. Sa early 60's adto manmi manihapon sa Archbishop palace nga Archbishop pa siya, anhaon man ang akong amahan sa opisina niya sa messenger sa Catheral kay duol raman ug suod manto silang duha.
pero taga-calbayog man to si cardinal rosales ... waray-waray, mao magkasinabot to sila ni imelda marcos
"In the time of Ferdinand Marcos, for every Jaime Cardinal Sin who became increasingly critical, there was always a Julio Cardinal Rosales to fawn on the ruling couple." Manuel L. Quezon III, "Pawn-feeding time" http://www.uniffors.com/?p=257
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:25 AM Pads kadto si Cardinal Rosales de ba mestizo man sad to. Sa early 60's adto manmi manihapon sa Archbishop palace nga Archbishop pa siya, anhaon man ang akong amahan sa opisina niya sa messenger sa Catheral kay duol raman ug suod manto silang duha.
pero taga-calbayog man to si cardinal rosales ... waray-waray, mao magkasinabot to sila ni imelda marcos
"In the time of Ferdinand Marcos, for every Jaime Cardinal Sin who became increasingly critical, there was always a Julio Cardinal Rosales to fawn on the ruling couple." Manuel L. Quezon III, "Pawn-feeding time" http://www.uniffors.com/?p=257
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:32 AM Bishops of Cebu
Pedro de Agurto, O.S.A. (Appointed: 30 Aug 1595 - 14 Oct 1608 Died)
Pedro Arce, O.S.A. (Appointed: 17 Sep 1612 - 16 Oct 1645 Died)
Juan Velez (Appointed: 26 Jan 1660 - 1662 Died)
Juan López (Appointed: 23 Apr 1663 - 14 Nov 1672 Appointed, Archbishop of Manila)
Diego de Aguilar, O.P. (Appointed: 16 Nov 1676 - 1 Oct 1692 Died)
Miguel Bayot, O.F.M. (Appointed: 13 May 1697 - 28 Aug 1700 Died)
Pedro Sanz de la Vega y Landaverde, O. de M. (Appointed: 26 Jan 1705 - 17 Dec 1717 Died)
Manuel de Ocio y Campo (Appointed: 20 Jan 1734 - 21 Jul 1737 Died)
Protacio Cabezas (Appointed: 29 Aug 1740 - 3 Feb 1753 Died)
Miguel Lino de Ezpeleta (Appointed: 18 Jul 1757 - 1771 Died)
Mateo Joaquin Rubio de Arevalo (Appointed: 13 Nov 1775 - 1788 Died)
Ignacio de Salamanca (Appointed: 24 Sep 1792 - Feb 1802 Died)
Joaquín Encabo de la Virgen de Sopetrán, O.A.R. (Appointed: 20 Aug 1804 - 8 Nov 1818 Died)
Francisco Genovés, O.P. (Appointed: 21 Mar 1825 - 1 Aug 1827 Died)
Santos Gómez Marañón, O.S.A. (Appointed: 28 Sep 1829 - 23 Oct 1840 Died)
Romualdo Jimeno Ballesteros, O.P. (Appointed: 19 Jan 1846 - 17 Mar 1872 Died)
Benito Romero, O.F.M. (Appointed: 28 Jan 1876 - 4 Nov 1885 Died)
Martín García y Alcocer, O.F.M. (Appointed: 7 Jun 1886 - 30 Jul 1904 Resigned)
Thomas A. Hendrick (Appointed: 17 Jul 1903 - 29 Nov 1909 Died)
Juan Bautista Gorordo (Appointed: 2 Apr 1910 - 19 Jun 1931 Resigned)
Gabriele Martelino Reyes (Appointed: 29 Jul 1932 - 25 Aug 1949 Appointed, Coadjutor Archbishop of Manila)
Julio Rosales y Ras (Appointed: 17 Dec 1949 - 24 Aug 1982 Retired)
Ricardo Jamin Vidal (Succeeded: 24 Aug 1982 - )
Secular: 12 [1660-1672, 1734-1802, 1904-present]
Augustinian (OSA): 3 [1595-1645, 1829-1840]
Dominican (OP): 3 [1676-1692, 1825-1827, 1846-1872]
Franciscan (OFM): 3 [1697-1700, 1876-1904]
Recollect (OAR): 1 [1804-1818]
Mercedarian (O de M): 1 [1705-1717]
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:32 AM Bishops of Cebu
Pedro de Agurto, O.S.A. (Appointed: 30 Aug 1595 - 14 Oct 1608 Died)
Pedro Arce, O.S.A. (Appointed: 17 Sep 1612 - 16 Oct 1645 Died)
Juan Velez (Appointed: 26 Jan 1660 - 1662 Died)
Juan López (Appointed: 23 Apr 1663 - 14 Nov 1672 Appointed, Archbishop of Manila)
Diego de Aguilar, O.P. (Appointed: 16 Nov 1676 - 1 Oct 1692 Died)
Miguel Bayot, O.F.M. (Appointed: 13 May 1697 - 28 Aug 1700 Died)
Pedro Sanz de la Vega y Landaverde, O. de M. (Appointed: 26 Jan 1705 - 17 Dec 1717 Died)
Manuel de Ocio y Campo (Appointed: 20 Jan 1734 - 21 Jul 1737 Died)
Protacio Cabezas (Appointed: 29 Aug 1740 - 3 Feb 1753 Died)
Miguel Lino de Ezpeleta (Appointed: 18 Jul 1757 - 1771 Died)
Mateo Joaquin Rubio de Arevalo (Appointed: 13 Nov 1775 - 1788 Died)
Ignacio de Salamanca (Appointed: 24 Sep 1792 - Feb 1802 Died)
Joaquín Encabo de la Virgen de Sopetrán, O.A.R. (Appointed: 20 Aug 1804 - 8 Nov 1818 Died)
Francisco Genovés, O.P. (Appointed: 21 Mar 1825 - 1 Aug 1827 Died)
Santos Gómez Marañón, O.S.A. (Appointed: 28 Sep 1829 - 23 Oct 1840 Died)
Romualdo Jimeno Ballesteros, O.P. (Appointed: 19 Jan 1846 - 17 Mar 1872 Died)
Benito Romero, O.F.M. (Appointed: 28 Jan 1876 - 4 Nov 1885 Died)
Martín García y Alcocer, O.F.M. (Appointed: 7 Jun 1886 - 30 Jul 1904 Resigned)
Thomas A. Hendrick (Appointed: 17 Jul 1903 - 29 Nov 1909 Died)
Juan Bautista Gorordo (Appointed: 2 Apr 1910 - 19 Jun 1931 Resigned)
Gabriele Martelino Reyes (Appointed: 29 Jul 1932 - 25 Aug 1949 Appointed, Coadjutor Archbishop of Manila)
Julio Rosales y Ras (Appointed: 17 Dec 1949 - 24 Aug 1982 Retired)
Ricardo Jamin Vidal (Succeeded: 24 Aug 1982 - )
Secular: 12 [1660-1672, 1734-1802, 1904-present]
Augustinian (OSA): 3 [1595-1645, 1829-1840]
Dominican (OP): 3 [1676-1692, 1825-1827, 1846-1872]
Franciscan (OFM): 3 [1697-1700, 1876-1904]
Recollect (OAR): 1 [1804-1818]
Mercedarian (O de M): 1 [1705-1717]
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:45 AM http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/542/rosaleyyrascebu.jpg
HE Julio Cardinal Rosales
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:45 AM http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/542/rosaleyyrascebu.jpg
HE Julio Cardinal Rosales
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:54 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
“What man can imagine, man can do.” – John F. Mee
The site of the Patria used to be a squatter settlement not even the Archbishop of Cebu, the Knights of Columbus, and the Daughters of Isabela were able to persuade the squatters to move out of the Church ground. The squatters were backed up by the local political officials which made them a formidable force to contend with. The squatter site became a crime den.
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue. The Catholic youth were at a lost on where to play bowling, play billiards and learn swimming. This representation had already graduated from U.P. Diliman with a Bachelor of Arts Degree and was strengthened in his faith by the U.P. Chaplain, the late Father John Delaney, SJ. and was pursuing a Master’s Degree in English at the University of San Carlos. With the help of Reverend Father Bernard Wrocklege, SVD (Society of Divine Word). of the University of San Carlos they motivated the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu to undertake the construction of a Catholic Recreation Center in Cebu City.
The Offered Site
When Archbishop Julio R. Rosales learned of their plan he offered to provide a lot where the Catholic Recreation Center would be built. But the site the Archbishop had in mind was the squatter settlement in front of the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral. He challenged the Student Catholic Action to moved out the squatters from the church grounds. Catholic Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell informed the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu about the Archbishop’s offer and the challenge. Archbishop Julio Rosales wrote to the Vatican for permission to allow the Student Catholic Action to use the area as the site of the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action recreation and service center to be called the Patria de Cebu. The Vatican gave its permission.
The Quest for Relocation Venue for Patria Squatters
With Cebu Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action President Bartolome de Castro, SCA’s leaders Francis Zosa, Anastacio Fabiania, Jr., Felix Matugina, Fe Mendoza, Azucena Derecho, Hermenia Florido, Jess Solon, Jess Hernandez, Leon Gonzaga, Jr., Augusto Go and Lindy C. Morrell, and Rev. Fr. Wrocklege, the team scoured Cebu City to look for a relocation site for the squatters. They spotted the empty sprawling grounds of the Cebu City Hippodrome or racetrack where racehorses used to engage in Sunday racing. At once they lost no time in trying to persuade some of the squatters to relocate to the new site. Unfortunately one of the leaders of the squatters refused to move. USC Law student Augusto Go offered his flatbed truck to haul the squatters’ houses to the relocation site providing that the SCA would furnish the driver.
The Death Threat by Squatters
This representation being a professional driver offered to do the driving chore. Just as the SCA students were about to move the first house for relocation, the hostile leader of the squatters named Tasio from Leyte drew his bolo to hack this representation. Reverend Father Wrocklege stepped into the picture and told Tasio “If you are going to kill this young man, kill me first!” Tasio’s hand shook in anger but he could not strike the priest. Lindy C. Morrell and Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. bargained with Tasio to go with the team to inspect the site so that he would have the first pick of the relocation site. Tasio cooled down and agreed to go with the team to the site to see for himself where he could relocate his house. Upon seeing a spot that he liked he agreed to have his house to be moved to the site ahead of the others. Thus the intended site for the Patria was cleared of squatters.
Drawing the Patria Blueprint
Two young architects of Cebu City, Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado (the younger brother of journalist Johnny Mercado) drew the blueprint for the Patria de Cebu making it one of the strongest structure in Cebu City at that point in time because of the special features that they have incorporated into the building plan – installing tie beams in the foundations of the building. This design is capable of taking the seismic shocks of earthquakes giving the Patria the distinction of being the first structure in Cebu City to enjoy this feature. Teddy Trinidad and Pepe Mercado crafted the blueprints for free. Patria construction boss was Dionisio Licaron.
Hand-Made Ave Maria Hollow Blocks
Each Student Catholic Action volunteer would make a hollow block with his own hands using the iron mold provided by Rev. Fr. Ernest Hoerdeman, SVD of the University of San Carlos. When the hollow block took shape and was removed from its mold the SCA volunteer would pray one Hail Mary over the hollow block. Lindy C. Morrell named the hollow blocks made by the SCA volunteers as the “Ave Maria Hollow Blocks”. The entire Patria Building is made up of Ave Maria hollow blocks. This is possibly the only structure in the Philippines made by students and prayed for with ‘Hail Mary’s. The SCA volunteers who made the hollow blocks were fed by meals cooked by female USC SCA volunteers in the field headed by USC student Luz Adolfo who later became Mrs. Luz Morrell. Rev. Fr. Veronico Salvador, brother of Archbishop Manuel Salvador, was one Diocesan priest who helped support the SCA project by regularly donating bags of cement for the hollow block-making project of the SCA volunteers.
Operation Red Hat
To help generate funds for the Patria project the SCA leaders wrote an appeal to cardinals and bishops all over the world appealing to them to donate funds to finance the Patria construction. Each time a solicitation letter was mailed to a cardinal or bishop one “Hail Mary” was prayed over each letter before dropping it to the mailbox. Contributions from local, national, and international sources were being received by Archbishop Julio Rosales as a result of SCA’s Operation Red Hat.
A Special Appeal
This representation humbly appeals to His Eminence Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, the Archbishop of Cebu to name a room in the Patria de Cebu Building after the late Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD who was the spiritual leader of the SCA Patria builders. Also this Lay Leader recommends that another room be named after the two young architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado for crafting the blueprints and supervising the construction of the Patria de Cebu Building for free.
Unforeseen Problem
When the Patria de Cebu Building was finished the builders awaited the shipment of the bowling alleys, billiard tables and other equipment by a supplier from Manila. Unfortunately the Puyat Manufacturing Facility caught fire. The suppliers refused to honor their contract to ship the entire sports equipment to the Patria (which was supposed to be paid in several installments over a three-year period) but insisted that the entire shipment be paid in cash. The Student Catholic Action of the Archdiocese of Cebu were preparing to file a legal suit against the Puyat Company to compel the firm to honor their contract with SCA. The advisers of Archbishop Rosales counseled the prelate to incorporate the Patria de Cebu and secure a bank loan to pay for the sports equipment.
Planned Student Protest
The SCA students objected to the plan to incorporate the Patria and to secure a loan to pay for the sports equipment because they felt that once the equipment were installed the patrons of the Patria de Cebu movement who were very generous in giving contributions to finance the Patria project would no longer feel obliged to continue giving their contributions. The students were overruled. The Patria was incorporated. Archbishop Rosales told Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell that he follow the counsel of his advisers because they were older and more knowledgeable in life. But Lindy Morrell replied: “Your advisers say I am young and know no better. Your Excellency I am glad that I am young for But Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD and Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell were not included among the list of incorporators. The students were aggrieved and were planning to demonstrate before the Archbishop’s Palace. Rev. Fr. Wrocklege and Lay Leader Lindy Morrell were able to pacify the disgruntled students telling them that in building the Patria they were also building themselves as responsible citizens and that although they were not named among the list of incorporators their named were listed in each hollow block that they made which would be honored by Jesus Christ Himself. After all the two leaders reminded the SCA volunteers that their noble work was aimed to restore all things to Christ. These words calmed the students.
Rev. Fr. Wrocklege Assigned Back to the U.S.
But Archbishop Rosales did not know of this act of pacifying the students and had Rev. Fr. Wrocklege transferred back to the United States in Techny, Illinois without the knowledge of the students who were not able to say goodbye to their beloved spiritual adviser. This is why naming a room in the Patria of Cebu in honor of Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD would help sooth the hurt that the SCA volunteers felt.
The After-Years
The career paths of the SCA leaders who built the Patria de Cebu proved to be colorful and impressive. Bartolome de Castro, Archdiocesan SCA President became an executive with the United Nations in New York. Law student Augusto Go is now the President of the University of Cebu. Francis Zosa became a congressman and is now a successful practicing lawyer in Cebu City. Felix Matugina is a successful businessman in Mandaue City. Leon Gonzaga, Jr. became a labor judge in Cagayan de Oro City. Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. became a marketing supervisor. Jess Hernandez became a marketing executive for a pharmaceutical company. Azucena Derecho joined the Pink Sisters and later became the head of a Mother House of the Pink Sisters in India. Fe Mendoza became a high-ranking nun of the Good Shepherd Order. The last news heard is that she was in Rome studying Islam and Arabic for possible assignment to the Middle East. Jess Solon became a Provincial Development Officer of PACD now known as DILG. Lindy C. Morrell went on to become a Regional Executive Director of the National Economic and Development Authority and later earned a Ph.D. in Environmental Management from Stratford International University in Wyoming State, U.S.A., and a Doctor of Letters Degree in Journalism from St. Clements University of the British West Indies Islands of Turks and Caicos near the Bahammas; and the former Ms. Luz Adolfo earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Home Economics from USC and married her childhood sweetheart Lindy C. Morrell.
It is suggested that if ever Cardinal Vidal will follow the recommendation that Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege , SVD and architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado be honored by having rooms in the Patria de Cebu Building named after them that appropriate ceremonies be held in such an undertaking.
Inter-Generational Heritage
This story of the Patria should be told and retold to inspire other young people of future generations that the youth have their own building prowess.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
gee April 11th, 2009, 10:54 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
“What man can imagine, man can do.” – John F. Mee
The site of the Patria used to be a squatter settlement not even the Archbishop of Cebu, the Knights of Columbus, and the Daughters of Isabela were able to persuade the squatters to move out of the Church ground. The squatters were backed up by the local political officials which made them a formidable force to contend with. The squatter site became a crime den.
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue. The Catholic youth were at a lost on where to play bowling, play billiards and learn swimming. This representation had already graduated from U.P. Diliman with a Bachelor of Arts Degree and was strengthened in his faith by the U.P. Chaplain, the late Father John Delaney, SJ. and was pursuing a Master’s Degree in English at the University of San Carlos. With the help of Reverend Father Bernard Wrocklege, SVD (Society of Divine Word). of the University of San Carlos they motivated the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu to undertake the construction of a Catholic Recreation Center in Cebu City.
The Offered Site
When Archbishop Julio R. Rosales learned of their plan he offered to provide a lot where the Catholic Recreation Center would be built. But the site the Archbishop had in mind was the squatter settlement in front of the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral. He challenged the Student Catholic Action to moved out the squatters from the church grounds. Catholic Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell informed the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu about the Archbishop’s offer and the challenge. Archbishop Julio Rosales wrote to the Vatican for permission to allow the Student Catholic Action to use the area as the site of the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action recreation and service center to be called the Patria de Cebu. The Vatican gave its permission.
The Quest for Relocation Venue for Patria Squatters
With Cebu Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action President Bartolome de Castro, SCA’s leaders Francis Zosa, Anastacio Fabiania, Jr., Felix Matugina, Fe Mendoza, Azucena Derecho, Hermenia Florido, Jess Solon, Jess Hernandez, Leon Gonzaga, Jr., Augusto Go and Lindy C. Morrell, and Rev. Fr. Wrocklege, the team scoured Cebu City to look for a relocation site for the squatters. They spotted the empty sprawling grounds of the Cebu City Hippodrome or racetrack where racehorses used to engage in Sunday racing. At once they lost no time in trying to persuade some of the squatters to relocate to the new site. Unfortunately one of the leaders of the squatters refused to move. USC Law student Augusto Go offered his flatbed truck to haul the squatters’ houses to the relocation site providing that the SCA would furnish the driver.
The Death Threat by Squatters
This representation being a professional driver offered to do the driving chore. Just as the SCA students were about to move the first house for relocation, the hostile leader of the squatters named Tasio from Leyte drew his bolo to hack this representation. Reverend Father Wrocklege stepped into the picture and told Tasio “If you are going to kill this young man, kill me first!” Tasio’s hand shook in anger but he could not strike the priest. Lindy C. Morrell and Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. bargained with Tasio to go with the team to inspect the site so that he would have the first pick of the relocation site. Tasio cooled down and agreed to go with the team to the site to see for himself where he could relocate his house. Upon seeing a spot that he liked he agreed to have his house to be moved to the site ahead of the others. Thus the intended site for the Patria was cleared of squatters.
Drawing the Patria Blueprint
Two young architects of Cebu City, Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado (the younger brother of journalist Johnny Mercado) drew the blueprint for the Patria de Cebu making it one of the strongest structure in Cebu City at that point in time because of the special features that they have incorporated into the building plan – installing tie beams in the foundations of the building. This design is capable of taking the seismic shocks of earthquakes giving the Patria the distinction of being the first structure in Cebu City to enjoy this feature. Teddy Trinidad and Pepe Mercado crafted the blueprints for free. Patria construction boss was Dionisio Licaron.
Hand-Made Ave Maria Hollow Blocks
Each Student Catholic Action volunteer would make a hollow block with his own hands using the iron mold provided by Rev. Fr. Ernest Hoerdeman, SVD of the University of San Carlos. When the hollow block took shape and was removed from its mold the SCA volunteer would pray one Hail Mary over the hollow block. Lindy C. Morrell named the hollow blocks made by the SCA volunteers as the “Ave Maria Hollow Blocks”. The entire Patria Building is made up of Ave Maria hollow blocks. This is possibly the only structure in the Philippines made by students and prayed for with ‘Hail Mary’s. The SCA volunteers who made the hollow blocks were fed by meals cooked by female USC SCA volunteers in the field headed by USC student Luz Adolfo who later became Mrs. Luz Morrell. Rev. Fr. Veronico Salvador, brother of Archbishop Manuel Salvador, was one Diocesan priest who helped support the SCA project by regularly donating bags of cement for the hollow block-making project of the SCA volunteers.
Operation Red Hat
To help generate funds for the Patria project the SCA leaders wrote an appeal to cardinals and bishops all over the world appealing to them to donate funds to finance the Patria construction. Each time a solicitation letter was mailed to a cardinal or bishop one “Hail Mary” was prayed over each letter before dropping it to the mailbox. Contributions from local, national, and international sources were being received by Archbishop Julio Rosales as a result of SCA’s Operation Red Hat.
A Special Appeal
This representation humbly appeals to His Eminence Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, the Archbishop of Cebu to name a room in the Patria de Cebu Building after the late Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD who was the spiritual leader of the SCA Patria builders. Also this Lay Leader recommends that another room be named after the two young architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado for crafting the blueprints and supervising the construction of the Patria de Cebu Building for free.
Unforeseen Problem
When the Patria de Cebu Building was finished the builders awaited the shipment of the bowling alleys, billiard tables and other equipment by a supplier from Manila. Unfortunately the Puyat Manufacturing Facility caught fire. The suppliers refused to honor their contract to ship the entire sports equipment to the Patria (which was supposed to be paid in several installments over a three-year period) but insisted that the entire shipment be paid in cash. The Student Catholic Action of the Archdiocese of Cebu were preparing to file a legal suit against the Puyat Company to compel the firm to honor their contract with SCA. The advisers of Archbishop Rosales counseled the prelate to incorporate the Patria de Cebu and secure a bank loan to pay for the sports equipment.
Planned Student Protest
The SCA students objected to the plan to incorporate the Patria and to secure a loan to pay for the sports equipment because they felt that once the equipment were installed the patrons of the Patria de Cebu movement who were very generous in giving contributions to finance the Patria project would no longer feel obliged to continue giving their contributions. The students were overruled. The Patria was incorporated. Archbishop Rosales told Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell that he follow the counsel of his advisers because they were older and more knowledgeable in life. But Lindy Morrell replied: “Your advisers say I am young and know no better. Your Excellency I am glad that I am young for But Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD and Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell were not included among the list of incorporators. The students were aggrieved and were planning to demonstrate before the Archbishop’s Palace. Rev. Fr. Wrocklege and Lay Leader Lindy Morrell were able to pacify the disgruntled students telling them that in building the Patria they were also building themselves as responsible citizens and that although they were not named among the list of incorporators their named were listed in each hollow block that they made which would be honored by Jesus Christ Himself. After all the two leaders reminded the SCA volunteers that their noble work was aimed to restore all things to Christ. These words calmed the students.
Rev. Fr. Wrocklege Assigned Back to the U.S.
But Archbishop Rosales did not know of this act of pacifying the students and had Rev. Fr. Wrocklege transferred back to the United States in Techny, Illinois without the knowledge of the students who were not able to say goodbye to their beloved spiritual adviser. This is why naming a room in the Patria of Cebu in honor of Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD would help sooth the hurt that the SCA volunteers felt.
The After-Years
The career paths of the SCA leaders who built the Patria de Cebu proved to be colorful and impressive. Bartolome de Castro, Archdiocesan SCA President became an executive with the United Nations in New York. Law student Augusto Go is now the President of the University of Cebu. Francis Zosa became a congressman and is now a successful practicing lawyer in Cebu City. Felix Matugina is a successful businessman in Mandaue City. Leon Gonzaga, Jr. became a labor judge in Cagayan de Oro City. Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. became a marketing supervisor. Jess Hernandez became a marketing executive for a pharmaceutical company. Azucena Derecho joined the Pink Sisters and later became the head of a Mother House of the Pink Sisters in India. Fe Mendoza became a high-ranking nun of the Good Shepherd Order. The last news heard is that she was in Rome studying Islam and Arabic for possible assignment to the Middle East. Jess Solon became a Provincial Development Officer of PACD now known as DILG. Lindy C. Morrell went on to become a Regional Executive Director of the National Economic and Development Authority and later earned a Ph.D. in Environmental Management from Stratford International University in Wyoming State, U.S.A., and a Doctor of Letters Degree in Journalism from St. Clements University of the British West Indies Islands of Turks and Caicos near the Bahammas; and the former Ms. Luz Adolfo earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Home Economics from USC and married her childhood sweetheart Lindy C. Morrell.
It is suggested that if ever Cardinal Vidal will follow the recommendation that Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege , SVD and architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado be honored by having rooms in the Patria de Cebu Building named after them that appropriate ceremonies be held in such an undertaking.
Inter-Generational Heritage
This story of the Patria should be told and retold to inspire other young people of future generations that the youth have their own building prowess.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 11:44 AM Teatro Junquera
In 1894 the residents of the district of Parian (in what is now Cebu City) staged a Spanish play titled El Alcalde Interino. The play was performed in the convent of the old church of Parian (destroyed in 1878 because of misunderstandings between the residents and the Spanish friar assigned to the parish). The special guest was Junquera......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inocencio_Junquera
gee@ This Junquera is the same guy as the name Calle General Inocencio Junquera? If so, the church must have felt uneasy when the city decided
to name the street in his honor.
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 11:44 AM Teatro Junquera
In 1894 the residents of the district of Parian (in what is now Cebu City) staged a Spanish play titled El Alcalde Interino. The play was performed in the convent of the old church of Parian (destroyed in 1878 because of misunderstandings between the residents and the Spanish friar assigned to the parish). The special guest was Junquera......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inocencio_Junquera
gee@ This Junquera is the same guy as the name Calle General Inocencio Junquera? If so, the church must have felt uneasy when the city decided
to name the street in his honor.
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 12:04 PM Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg
The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.
Tried taking a closer look of the necklace .... it has a very intricate design
which leads me to wonder where it was made.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 12:04 PM Boljoon yielded once more its golden treasures buried beneath the church and convent grounds today, on our 13th day of excavation. So, who says 13 is unlucky?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/goldchain.jpg
The gold necklace, now cleaned and shiny.
Tried taking a closer look of the necklace .... it has a very intricate design
which leads me to wonder where it was made.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 12:21 PM here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
Tried taking a closer look of the necklace. It has a very intricate
design which leads me to wonder where it was made ... the craftsmanship
is simply superb!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/ximone/Boljoongoldnecklace.jpg
sanvalente April 11th, 2009, 12:21 PM here are the two items that we think are quite astounding:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/coveredboxandgold.jpg
Tried taking a closer look of the necklace. It has a very intricate
design which leads me to wonder where it was made ... the craftsmanship
is simply superb!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/ximone/Boljoongoldnecklace.jpg
archaeologue April 12th, 2009, 12:08 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
“What man can imagine, man can do.” – John F. Mee
The site of the Patria used to be a squatter settlement not even the Archbishop of Cebu, the Knights of Columbus, and the Daughters of Isabela were able to persuade the squatters to move out of the Church ground. The squatters were backed up by the local political officials which made them a formidable force to contend with. The squatter site became a crime den.
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue. The Catholic youth were at a lost on where to play bowling, play billiards and learn swimming. This representation had already graduated from U.P. Diliman with a Bachelor of Arts Degree and was strengthened in his faith by the U.P. Chaplain, the late Father John Delaney, SJ. and was pursuing a Master’s Degree in English at the University of San Carlos. With the help of Reverend Father Bernard Wrocklege, SVD (Society of Divine Word). of the University of San Carlos they motivated the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu to undertake the construction of a Catholic Recreation Center in Cebu City.
The Offered Site
When Archbishop Julio R. Rosales learned of their plan he offered to provide a lot where the Catholic Recreation Center would be built. But the site the Archbishop had in mind was the squatter settlement in front of the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral. He challenged the Student Catholic Action to moved out the squatters from the church grounds. Catholic Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell informed the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu about the Archbishop’s offer and the challenge. Archbishop Julio Rosales wrote to the Vatican for permission to allow the Student Catholic Action to use the area as the site of the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action recreation and service center to be called the Patria de Cebu. The Vatican gave its permission.
The Quest for Relocation Venue for Patria Squatters
With Cebu Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action President Bartolome de Castro, SCA’s leaders Francis Zosa, Anastacio Fabiania, Jr., Felix Matugina, Fe Mendoza, Azucena Derecho, Hermenia Florido, Jess Solon, Jess Hernandez, Leon Gonzaga, Jr., Augusto Go and Lindy C. Morrell, and Rev. Fr. Wrocklege, the team scoured Cebu City to look for a relocation site for the squatters. They spotted the empty sprawling grounds of the Cebu City Hippodrome or racetrack where racehorses used to engage in Sunday racing. At once they lost no time in trying to persuade some of the squatters to relocate to the new site. Unfortunately one of the leaders of the squatters refused to move. USC Law student Augusto Go offered his flatbed truck to haul the squatters’ houses to the relocation site providing that the SCA would furnish the driver.
The Death Threat by Squatters
This representation being a professional driver offered to do the driving chore. Just as the SCA students were about to move the first house for relocation, the hostile leader of the squatters named Tasio from Leyte drew his bolo to hack this representation. Reverend Father Wrocklege stepped into the picture and told Tasio “If you are going to kill this young man, kill me first!” Tasio’s hand shook in anger but he could not strike the priest. Lindy C. Morrell and Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. bargained with Tasio to go with the team to inspect the site so that he would have the first pick of the relocation site. Tasio cooled down and agreed to go with the team to the site to see for himself where he could relocate his house. Upon seeing a spot that he liked he agreed to have his house to be moved to the site ahead of the others. Thus the intended site for the Patria was cleared of squatters.
Drawing the Patria Blueprint
Two young architects of Cebu City, Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado (the younger brother of journalist Johnny Mercado) drew the blueprint for the Patria de Cebu making it one of the strongest structure in Cebu City at that point in time because of the special features that they have incorporated into the building plan – installing tie beams in the foundations of the building. This design is capable of taking the seismic shocks of earthquakes giving the Patria the distinction of being the first structure in Cebu City to enjoy this feature. Teddy Trinidad and Pepe Mercado crafted the blueprints for free. Patria construction boss was Dionisio Licaron.
Hand-Made Ave Maria Hollow Blocks
Each Student Catholic Action volunteer would make a hollow block with his own hands using the iron mold provided by Rev. Fr. Ernest Hoerdeman, SVD of the University of San Carlos. When the hollow block took shape and was removed from its mold the SCA volunteer would pray one Hail Mary over the hollow block. Lindy C. Morrell named the hollow blocks made by the SCA volunteers as the “Ave Maria Hollow Blocks”. The entire Patria Building is made up of Ave Maria hollow blocks. This is possibly the only structure in the Philippines made by students and prayed for with ‘Hail Mary’s. The SCA volunteers who made the hollow blocks were fed by meals cooked by female USC SCA volunteers in the field headed by USC student Luz Adolfo who later became Mrs. Luz Morrell. Rev. Fr. Veronico Salvador, brother of Archbishop Manuel Salvador, was one Diocesan priest who helped support the SCA project by regularly donating bags of cement for the hollow block-making project of the SCA volunteers.
Operation Red Hat
To help generate funds for the Patria project the SCA leaders wrote an appeal to cardinals and bishops all over the world appealing to them to donate funds to finance the Patria construction. Each time a solicitation letter was mailed to a cardinal or bishop one “Hail Mary” was prayed over each letter before dropping it to the mailbox. Contributions from local, national, and international sources were being received by Archbishop Julio Rosales as a result of SCA’s Operation Red Hat.
A Special Appeal
This representation humbly appeals to His Eminence Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, the Archbishop of Cebu to name a room in the Patria de Cebu Building after the late Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD who was the spiritual leader of the SCA Patria builders. Also this Lay Leader recommends that another room be named after the two young architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado for crafting the blueprints and supervising the construction of the Patria de Cebu Building for free.
Unforeseen Problem
When the Patria de Cebu Building was finished the builders awaited the shipment of the bowling alleys, billiard tables and other equipment by a supplier from Manila. Unfortunately the Puyat Manufacturing Facility caught fire. The suppliers refused to honor their contract to ship the entire sports equipment to the Patria (which was supposed to be paid in several installments over a three-year period) but insisted that the entire shipment be paid in cash. The Student Catholic Action of the Archdiocese of Cebu were preparing to file a legal suit against the Puyat Company to compel the firm to honor their contract with SCA. The advisers of Archbishop Rosales counseled the prelate to incorporate the Patria de Cebu and secure a bank loan to pay for the sports equipment.
Planned Student Protest
The SCA students objected to the plan to incorporate the Patria and to secure a loan to pay for the sports equipment because they felt that once the equipment were installed the patrons of the Patria de Cebu movement who were very generous in giving contributions to finance the Patria project would no longer feel obliged to continue giving their contributions. The students were overruled. The Patria was incorporated. Archbishop Rosales told Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell that he follow the counsel of his advisers because they were older and more knowledgeable in life. But Lindy Morrell replied: “Your advisers say I am young and know no better. Your Excellency I am glad that I am young for But Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD and Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell were not included among the list of incorporators. The students were aggrieved and were planning to demonstrate before the Archbishop’s Palace. Rev. Fr. Wrocklege and Lay Leader Lindy Morrell were able to pacify the disgruntled students telling them that in building the Patria they were also building themselves as responsible citizens and that although they were not named among the list of incorporators their named were listed in each hollow block that they made which would be honored by Jesus Christ Himself. After all the two leaders reminded the SCA volunteers that their noble work was aimed to restore all things to Christ. These words calmed the students.
Rev. Fr. Wrocklege Assigned Back to the U.S.
But Archbishop Rosales did not know of this act of pacifying the students and had Rev. Fr. Wrocklege transferred back to the United States in Techny, Illinois without the knowledge of the students who were not able to say goodbye to their beloved spiritual adviser. This is why naming a room in the Patria of Cebu in honor of Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD would help sooth the hurt that the SCA volunteers felt.
The After-Years
The career paths of the SCA leaders who built the Patria de Cebu proved to be colorful and impressive. Bartolome de Castro, Archdiocesan SCA President became an executive with the United Nations in New York. Law student Augusto Go is now the President of the University of Cebu. Francis Zosa became a congressman and is now a successful practicing lawyer in Cebu City. Felix Matugina is a successful businessman in Mandaue City. Leon Gonzaga, Jr. became a labor judge in Cagayan de Oro City. Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. became a marketing supervisor. Jess Hernandez became a marketing executive for a pharmaceutical company. Azucena Derecho joined the Pink Sisters and later became the head of a Mother House of the Pink Sisters in India. Fe Mendoza became a high-ranking nun of the Good Shepherd Order. The last news heard is that she was in Rome studying Islam and Arabic for possible assignment to the Middle East. Jess Solon became a Provincial Development Officer of PACD now known as DILG. Lindy C. Morrell went on to become a Regional Executive Director of the National Economic and Development Authority and later earned a Ph.D. in Environmental Management from Stratford International University in Wyoming State, U.S.A., and a Doctor of Letters Degree in Journalism from St. Clements University of the British West Indies Islands of Turks and Caicos near the Bahammas; and the former Ms. Luz Adolfo earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Home Economics from USC and married her childhood sweetheart Lindy C. Morrell.
It is suggested that if ever Cardinal Vidal will follow the recommendation that Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege , SVD and architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado be honored by having rooms in the Patria de Cebu Building named after them that appropriate ceremonies be held in such an undertaking.
Inter-Generational Heritage
This story of the Patria should be told and retold to inspire other young people of future generations that the youth have their own building prowess.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
I think Wrocklege is spelled Wrocklage and Hoerdeman is Hoerdemann...otherwise, very informative and revealing blog...it speaks volumes of the late Cardinal's decisions...
archaeologue April 12th, 2009, 12:08 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
“What man can imagine, man can do.” – John F. Mee
The site of the Patria used to be a squatter settlement not even the Archbishop of Cebu, the Knights of Columbus, and the Daughters of Isabela were able to persuade the squatters to move out of the Church ground. The squatters were backed up by the local political officials which made them a formidable force to contend with. The squatter site became a crime den.
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue. The Catholic youth were at a lost on where to play bowling, play billiards and learn swimming. This representation had already graduated from U.P. Diliman with a Bachelor of Arts Degree and was strengthened in his faith by the U.P. Chaplain, the late Father John Delaney, SJ. and was pursuing a Master’s Degree in English at the University of San Carlos. With the help of Reverend Father Bernard Wrocklege, SVD (Society of Divine Word). of the University of San Carlos they motivated the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu to undertake the construction of a Catholic Recreation Center in Cebu City.
The Offered Site
When Archbishop Julio R. Rosales learned of their plan he offered to provide a lot where the Catholic Recreation Center would be built. But the site the Archbishop had in mind was the squatter settlement in front of the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral. He challenged the Student Catholic Action to moved out the squatters from the church grounds. Catholic Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell informed the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action of Cebu about the Archbishop’s offer and the challenge. Archbishop Julio Rosales wrote to the Vatican for permission to allow the Student Catholic Action to use the area as the site of the Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action recreation and service center to be called the Patria de Cebu. The Vatican gave its permission.
The Quest for Relocation Venue for Patria Squatters
With Cebu Archdiocesan Student Catholic Action President Bartolome de Castro, SCA’s leaders Francis Zosa, Anastacio Fabiania, Jr., Felix Matugina, Fe Mendoza, Azucena Derecho, Hermenia Florido, Jess Solon, Jess Hernandez, Leon Gonzaga, Jr., Augusto Go and Lindy C. Morrell, and Rev. Fr. Wrocklege, the team scoured Cebu City to look for a relocation site for the squatters. They spotted the empty sprawling grounds of the Cebu City Hippodrome or racetrack where racehorses used to engage in Sunday racing. At once they lost no time in trying to persuade some of the squatters to relocate to the new site. Unfortunately one of the leaders of the squatters refused to move. USC Law student Augusto Go offered his flatbed truck to haul the squatters’ houses to the relocation site providing that the SCA would furnish the driver.
The Death Threat by Squatters
This representation being a professional driver offered to do the driving chore. Just as the SCA students were about to move the first house for relocation, the hostile leader of the squatters named Tasio from Leyte drew his bolo to hack this representation. Reverend Father Wrocklege stepped into the picture and told Tasio “If you are going to kill this young man, kill me first!” Tasio’s hand shook in anger but he could not strike the priest. Lindy C. Morrell and Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. bargained with Tasio to go with the team to inspect the site so that he would have the first pick of the relocation site. Tasio cooled down and agreed to go with the team to the site to see for himself where he could relocate his house. Upon seeing a spot that he liked he agreed to have his house to be moved to the site ahead of the others. Thus the intended site for the Patria was cleared of squatters.
Drawing the Patria Blueprint
Two young architects of Cebu City, Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado (the younger brother of journalist Johnny Mercado) drew the blueprint for the Patria de Cebu making it one of the strongest structure in Cebu City at that point in time because of the special features that they have incorporated into the building plan – installing tie beams in the foundations of the building. This design is capable of taking the seismic shocks of earthquakes giving the Patria the distinction of being the first structure in Cebu City to enjoy this feature. Teddy Trinidad and Pepe Mercado crafted the blueprints for free. Patria construction boss was Dionisio Licaron.
Hand-Made Ave Maria Hollow Blocks
Each Student Catholic Action volunteer would make a hollow block with his own hands using the iron mold provided by Rev. Fr. Ernest Hoerdeman, SVD of the University of San Carlos. When the hollow block took shape and was removed from its mold the SCA volunteer would pray one Hail Mary over the hollow block. Lindy C. Morrell named the hollow blocks made by the SCA volunteers as the “Ave Maria Hollow Blocks”. The entire Patria Building is made up of Ave Maria hollow blocks. This is possibly the only structure in the Philippines made by students and prayed for with ‘Hail Mary’s. The SCA volunteers who made the hollow blocks were fed by meals cooked by female USC SCA volunteers in the field headed by USC student Luz Adolfo who later became Mrs. Luz Morrell. Rev. Fr. Veronico Salvador, brother of Archbishop Manuel Salvador, was one Diocesan priest who helped support the SCA project by regularly donating bags of cement for the hollow block-making project of the SCA volunteers.
Operation Red Hat
To help generate funds for the Patria project the SCA leaders wrote an appeal to cardinals and bishops all over the world appealing to them to donate funds to finance the Patria construction. Each time a solicitation letter was mailed to a cardinal or bishop one “Hail Mary” was prayed over each letter before dropping it to the mailbox. Contributions from local, national, and international sources were being received by Archbishop Julio Rosales as a result of SCA’s Operation Red Hat.
A Special Appeal
This representation humbly appeals to His Eminence Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, the Archbishop of Cebu to name a room in the Patria de Cebu Building after the late Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD who was the spiritual leader of the SCA Patria builders. Also this Lay Leader recommends that another room be named after the two young architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado for crafting the blueprints and supervising the construction of the Patria de Cebu Building for free.
Unforeseen Problem
When the Patria de Cebu Building was finished the builders awaited the shipment of the bowling alleys, billiard tables and other equipment by a supplier from Manila. Unfortunately the Puyat Manufacturing Facility caught fire. The suppliers refused to honor their contract to ship the entire sports equipment to the Patria (which was supposed to be paid in several installments over a three-year period) but insisted that the entire shipment be paid in cash. The Student Catholic Action of the Archdiocese of Cebu were preparing to file a legal suit against the Puyat Company to compel the firm to honor their contract with SCA. The advisers of Archbishop Rosales counseled the prelate to incorporate the Patria de Cebu and secure a bank loan to pay for the sports equipment.
Planned Student Protest
The SCA students objected to the plan to incorporate the Patria and to secure a loan to pay for the sports equipment because they felt that once the equipment were installed the patrons of the Patria de Cebu movement who were very generous in giving contributions to finance the Patria project would no longer feel obliged to continue giving their contributions. The students were overruled. The Patria was incorporated. Archbishop Rosales told Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell that he follow the counsel of his advisers because they were older and more knowledgeable in life. But Lindy Morrell replied: “Your advisers say I am young and know no better. Your Excellency I am glad that I am young for But Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD and Lay Leader Lindy C. Morrell were not included among the list of incorporators. The students were aggrieved and were planning to demonstrate before the Archbishop’s Palace. Rev. Fr. Wrocklege and Lay Leader Lindy Morrell were able to pacify the disgruntled students telling them that in building the Patria they were also building themselves as responsible citizens and that although they were not named among the list of incorporators their named were listed in each hollow block that they made which would be honored by Jesus Christ Himself. After all the two leaders reminded the SCA volunteers that their noble work was aimed to restore all things to Christ. These words calmed the students.
Rev. Fr. Wrocklege Assigned Back to the U.S.
But Archbishop Rosales did not know of this act of pacifying the students and had Rev. Fr. Wrocklege transferred back to the United States in Techny, Illinois without the knowledge of the students who were not able to say goodbye to their beloved spiritual adviser. This is why naming a room in the Patria of Cebu in honor of Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege, SVD would help sooth the hurt that the SCA volunteers felt.
The After-Years
The career paths of the SCA leaders who built the Patria de Cebu proved to be colorful and impressive. Bartolome de Castro, Archdiocesan SCA President became an executive with the United Nations in New York. Law student Augusto Go is now the President of the University of Cebu. Francis Zosa became a congressman and is now a successful practicing lawyer in Cebu City. Felix Matugina is a successful businessman in Mandaue City. Leon Gonzaga, Jr. became a labor judge in Cagayan de Oro City. Anastacio Fabiaña, Jr. became a marketing supervisor. Jess Hernandez became a marketing executive for a pharmaceutical company. Azucena Derecho joined the Pink Sisters and later became the head of a Mother House of the Pink Sisters in India. Fe Mendoza became a high-ranking nun of the Good Shepherd Order. The last news heard is that she was in Rome studying Islam and Arabic for possible assignment to the Middle East. Jess Solon became a Provincial Development Officer of PACD now known as DILG. Lindy C. Morrell went on to become a Regional Executive Director of the National Economic and Development Authority and later earned a Ph.D. in Environmental Management from Stratford International University in Wyoming State, U.S.A., and a Doctor of Letters Degree in Journalism from St. Clements University of the British West Indies Islands of Turks and Caicos near the Bahammas; and the former Ms. Luz Adolfo earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Home Economics from USC and married her childhood sweetheart Lindy C. Morrell.
It is suggested that if ever Cardinal Vidal will follow the recommendation that Rev. Fr. Bernard Wrocklege , SVD and architects Teodoro Trinidad and Jose Mercado be honored by having rooms in the Patria de Cebu Building named after them that appropriate ceremonies be held in such an undertaking.
Inter-Generational Heritage
This story of the Patria should be told and retold to inspire other young people of future generations that the youth have their own building prowess.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
I think Wrocklege is spelled Wrocklage and Hoerdeman is Hoerdemann...otherwise, very informative and revealing blog...it speaks volumes of the late Cardinal's decisions...
archaeologue April 12th, 2009, 12:14 AM ^^ ^^
John Miksic, professor of archaeology at NUS, who has written a lot on southeast asian gold, says that the profusion of pre-colonial goldworking and gold jewelry in the Philippines is unsurpassed elsewhere in insular southeast asia for the simply fact that the Philippines is replete with gold ore which was even mined in pre-colonial times.
it would be logical, Caloy, to infer that this gold in Boljoon may have been worked in one of the pre-colonial trading centers of the archipelago.
i would venture to sugest Butuan or even Sugbo.
archaeologue April 12th, 2009, 12:14 AM ^^ ^^
John Miksic, professor of archaeology at NUS, who has written a lot on southeast asian gold, says that the profusion of pre-colonial goldworking and gold jewelry in the Philippines is unsurpassed elsewhere in insular southeast asia for the simply fact that the Philippines is replete with gold ore which was even mined in pre-colonial times.
it would be logical, Caloy, to infer that this gold in Boljoon may have been worked in one of the pre-colonial trading centers of the archipelago.
i would venture to sugest Butuan or even Sugbo.
gee April 12th, 2009, 09:52 AM HAPPY EASTER - FROHES OSTERFEST - 復活節快樂
gee April 12th, 2009, 09:52 AM HAPPY EASTER - FROHES OSTERFEST - 復活節快樂
gee April 12th, 2009, 09:57 AM gee@ This Junquera is the same guy as the name Calle General Inocencio Junquera? If so, the church must have felt uneasy when the city decided to name the street in his honor.
yes, he is the one ... but i guess, when the city named that street after him, the church people have long forgotten him .... pero karon mura ug bati kaayog reputation di junquera sa mga cebuano kay ma-associate man siya sa prostitution ....
gee April 12th, 2009, 09:57 AM gee@ This Junquera is the same guy as the name Calle General Inocencio Junquera? If so, the church must have felt uneasy when the city decided to name the street in his honor.
yes, he is the one ... but i guess, when the city named that street after him, the church people have long forgotten him .... pero karon mura ug bati kaayog reputation di junquera sa mga cebuano kay ma-associate man siya sa prostitution ....
Taga Bogo April 12th, 2009, 11:20 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
"Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue."
padz, perhaps it is different today, but what was there in YMCA that drew the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy's ire to issue such a ban during those times?
Taga Bogo April 12th, 2009, 11:20 AM How the Patria de Cebu was Built Circa 1954
Prohibition Against YMCA Patronage by Archbishop Rosales
Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue.
http://morrellisms.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-patria-de-cebu-was-built.html
"Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue."
padz, perhaps it is different today, but what was there in YMCA that drew the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy's ire to issue such a ban during those times?
gee April 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM "Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue."
padz, perhaps it is different today, but what was there in YMCA that drew the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy's ire to issue such a ban during those times?
cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
"Were the YMCA to label itself the Young Men's Protestant Association, it might be more candid," wrote William J. Whalen, English professor at Indiana's Purdue University and student of Roman Catholic youth. "Forty years ago. the Holy Office warned Catholics against joining or supporting the YMCA, 'an organization which instills indifference and apostasy . . . ' Books on sex and marriage published by the Association Press, the Y's publishing arm, present views on masturbation, premarital intercourse, sterilization, divorce and birth control at obvious variance with Catholic principles." The books' willingness to discuss the pros and cons of these subjects conflicts with the flat Catholic bans against them.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes and such, but the days are long gone when the London-founded, 117-year-old Y was an evangelical organization that excluded what Whalen called "Romanists, Jews and infidels." Few Catholics have paid heed to theological lint-picking over what is now virtually a community organization. In Dallas, however, the Times-Herald last week front-paged the Sunday Visitor article and promptly blew up a storm. "Active membership in the Y is closed to Catholics," the paper quoted the diocese's Roman Catholic information director, "the same as the Methodist Youth Fellowship is not for Catholic teenagers." Many Dallas Catholics were outraged. "They're not going to tell me I can't take a Y hair-cutting course!" fumed one housewife.
Bishop Thomas K. Gorman of Dallas and Fort Worth was not about to tell her any such thing, as he slapped down the potent Visitor. He had not the slightest objection, he announced, "to Catholics living at the YMCA or participating in its recreational programs. Of course they should not participate in the religious exercises—any more than we would expect a Baptist to come to our service and kneel and stand up with us."
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
gee April 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM "Around this time the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy was strict in its mandate that no Catholic youth should patronize the YMCA Recreation Center in Jones Avenue."
padz, perhaps it is different today, but what was there in YMCA that drew the Cebu Catholic Hierarchy's ire to issue such a ban during those times?
cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
"Were the YMCA to label itself the Young Men's Protestant Association, it might be more candid," wrote William J. Whalen, English professor at Indiana's Purdue University and student of Roman Catholic youth. "Forty years ago. the Holy Office warned Catholics against joining or supporting the YMCA, 'an organization which instills indifference and apostasy . . . ' Books on sex and marriage published by the Association Press, the Y's publishing arm, present views on masturbation, premarital intercourse, sterilization, divorce and birth control at obvious variance with Catholic principles." The books' willingness to discuss the pros and cons of these subjects conflicts with the flat Catholic bans against them.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes and such, but the days are long gone when the London-founded, 117-year-old Y was an evangelical organization that excluded what Whalen called "Romanists, Jews and infidels." Few Catholics have paid heed to theological lint-picking over what is now virtually a community organization. In Dallas, however, the Times-Herald last week front-paged the Sunday Visitor article and promptly blew up a storm. "Active membership in the Y is closed to Catholics," the paper quoted the diocese's Roman Catholic information director, "the same as the Methodist Youth Fellowship is not for Catholic teenagers." Many Dallas Catholics were outraged. "They're not going to tell me I can't take a Y hair-cutting course!" fumed one housewife.
Bishop Thomas K. Gorman of Dallas and Fort Worth was not about to tell her any such thing, as he slapped down the potent Visitor. He had not the slightest objection, he announced, "to Catholics living at the YMCA or participating in its recreational programs. Of course they should not participate in the religious exercises—any more than we would expect a Baptist to come to our service and kneel and stand up with us."
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 02:53 AM cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
Its that global issue then, thought the ban had some other local sinugdanan.
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 02:53 AM cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
Its that global issue then, thought the ban had some other local sinugdanan.
AmbutLang April 13th, 2009, 06:24 AM cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
"Were the YMCA to label itself the Young Men's Protestant Association, it might be more candid," wrote William J. Whalen, English professor at Indiana's Purdue University and student of Roman Catholic youth. "Forty years ago. the Holy Office warned Catholics against joining or supporting the YMCA, 'an organization which instills indifference and apostasy . . . ' Books on sex and marriage published by the Association Press, the Y's publishing arm, present views on masturbation, premarital intercourse, sterilization, divorce and birth control at obvious variance with Catholic principles." The books' willingness to discuss the pros and cons of these subjects conflicts with the flat Catholic bans against them.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes and such, but the days are long gone when the London-founded, 117-year-old Y was an evangelical organization that excluded what Whalen called "Romanists, Jews and infidels." Few Catholics have paid heed to theological lint-picking over what is now virtually a community organization. In Dallas, however, the Times-Herald last week front-paged the Sunday Visitor article and promptly blew up a storm. "Active membership in the Y is closed to Catholics," the paper quoted the diocese's Roman Catholic information director, "the same as the Methodist Youth Fellowship is not for Catholic teenagers." Many Dallas Catholics were outraged. "They're not going to tell me I can't take a Y hair-cutting course!" fumed one housewife.
Bishop Thomas K. Gorman of Dallas and Fort Worth was not about to tell her any such thing, as he slapped down the potent Visitor. He had not the slightest objection, he announced, "to Catholics living at the YMCA or participating in its recreational programs. Of course they should not participate in the religious exercises—any more than we would expect a Baptist to come to our service and kneel and stand up with us."
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
Sa nag college pako sa USC-TC ang minor subject PE kai swimming man ang course akong gipili, adto man mi sa YMCA ang attendance sa Saturdays wala man swimming pool sa school, ang convento raman sa mga Pari diha sa top floor ang aduna. :lol:
AmbutLang April 13th, 2009, 06:24 AM cebu was not an isolated case. i got here an article from times magazine (1961). and we should remember that prior to the reforms of vatican ii, catholics were "suspicious" about the activities of the protestants.
The Catholic at the Y
Friday, Jun. 23, 1961
Softballs were lofting, basketballs thumping, swimming pools sloshing. People ranging from kids to grandmas were learning ballroom dancing, bird watching, guitar playing, oil painting, cake baking and bridge at North America's 2,500 YMCAs and YWCAs. Yet, according to the big-circulation (913,331) Roman Catholic weekly. Our Sunday Visitor, some 20% of the thumpers, sloshers. bakers and players should not have been there. They are Catholics, and. said the paper, the Young Men's (or Women's) Christian Association is no place for a Catholic.
"Were the YMCA to label itself the Young Men's Protestant Association, it might be more candid," wrote William J. Whalen, English professor at Indiana's Purdue University and student of Roman Catholic youth. "Forty years ago. the Holy Office warned Catholics against joining or supporting the YMCA, 'an organization which instills indifference and apostasy . . . ' Books on sex and marriage published by the Association Press, the Y's publishing arm, present views on masturbation, premarital intercourse, sterilization, divorce and birth control at obvious variance with Catholic principles." The books' willingness to discuss the pros and cons of these subjects conflicts with the flat Catholic bans against them.
Other foursquare Roman Catholic periodicals have warned the faithful against the Protestantism that the Y is supposed to offer along with its weight-reducing classes and such, but the days are long gone when the London-founded, 117-year-old Y was an evangelical organization that excluded what Whalen called "Romanists, Jews and infidels." Few Catholics have paid heed to theological lint-picking over what is now virtually a community organization. In Dallas, however, the Times-Herald last week front-paged the Sunday Visitor article and promptly blew up a storm. "Active membership in the Y is closed to Catholics," the paper quoted the diocese's Roman Catholic information director, "the same as the Methodist Youth Fellowship is not for Catholic teenagers." Many Dallas Catholics were outraged. "They're not going to tell me I can't take a Y hair-cutting course!" fumed one housewife.
Bishop Thomas K. Gorman of Dallas and Fort Worth was not about to tell her any such thing, as he slapped down the potent Visitor. He had not the slightest objection, he announced, "to Catholics living at the YMCA or participating in its recreational programs. Of course they should not participate in the religious exercises—any more than we would expect a Baptist to come to our service and kneel and stand up with us."
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,894518,00.html
Sa nag college pako sa USC-TC ang minor subject PE kai swimming man ang course akong gipili, adto man mi sa YMCA ang attendance sa Saturdays wala man swimming pool sa school, ang convento raman sa mga Pari diha sa top floor ang aduna. :lol:
gee April 13th, 2009, 06:43 AM Sa nag college pako sa USC-TC ang minor subject PE kai swimming man ang course akong gipili, adto man mi sa YMCA ang attendance sa Saturdays wala man swimming pool sa school, ang convento raman sa mga Pari diha sa top floor ang aduna. :lol:
walay swimming pool sa father`s quarter sa usc, ang recoletos ray naa.
gee April 13th, 2009, 06:43 AM Sa nag college pako sa USC-TC ang minor subject PE kai swimming man ang course akong gipili, adto man mi sa YMCA ang attendance sa Saturdays wala man swimming pool sa school, ang convento raman sa mga Pari diha sa top floor ang aduna. :lol:
walay swimming pool sa father`s quarter sa usc, ang recoletos ray naa.
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 08:09 AM Altar Virgin de Fatima
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/041309CHURCHALTARVIRGENDEFATIMAa.jpg
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 08:09 AM Altar Virgin de Fatima
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/041309CHURCHALTARVIRGENDEFATIMAa.jpg
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 08:19 AM Sergio Osmena for VP
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/041309SERGIOOSMENASLOGANFORVPa.jpg
Taga Bogo April 13th, 2009, 08:19 AM Sergio Osmena for VP
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp117/TagaBogo/Postcard/041309SERGIOOSMENASLOGANFORVPa.jpg
AmbutLang April 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM walay swimming pool sa father`s quarter sa usc, ang recoletos ray naa.
sorry giromor manto sa paghuman sa building(convento):bash:. I known the building is constructed as the first to withstand severe earthquake up to 7 richter scale. It has a floating foundation and concrete pouring where done 24hours/7 days as if one contrete pour. The base was done first similar way and cured the cement before the building started. Some called it the floating building.
AmbutLang April 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM walay swimming pool sa father`s quarter sa usc, ang recoletos ray naa.
sorry giromor manto sa paghuman sa building(convento):bash:. I known the building is constructed as the first to withstand severe earthquake up to 7 richter scale. It has a floating foundation and concrete pouring where done 24hours/7 days as if one contrete pour. The base was done first similar way and cured the cement before the building started. Some called it the floating building.
icarusrising April 14th, 2009, 06:27 AM Aerials of Cebu (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454895&publicationSubCategoryId=85)
CITY SENSE By Paulo Alcazaren Updated April 04, 2009 12:00 AM
The two articles showing aerials from metropolitan Manila’s past have been quite a hit with readers. Many e-mailed to tell me how much they enjoyed the pieces and the look back in time.
Typical of these e-mails is one from Pido A., who wrote that he “…enjoyed the article today. It brought me back several years…” Pido then filled his e-mail with the correct identification of most of the buildings in the pictures. Many other readers did the same and some, in fact, corrected the mis-captioning of a number of the aerials.
Nilo G wrote: “I’m a regular reader of your column and always enjoy reading them. In today’s (March 28) issue, I think there is some mislabeling of the pictures. The image of ‘The Benpres building on Tektite St. in the ’60s’ is actually a picture of the Strata 100 Bldg (center) and the Padilla Building (right-hand side).”
He pointed out that “The picture of the CCP was captioned as being taken ‘in the late ’60s’ but the Legazpi Towers 300 was already there. When I was passing the area every weekday in 1976 (my first year in college) on my bus rides from Cavite to Plaza Lawton, I recall that the Legazpi Towers were still being constructed, so I think the caption should be ‘in the late ’70s.’” Nilo ended with, “Many thanks to you for the kind of unique, interesting, and nostalgic features that only you write in my favorite paper.”
Yes, Nilo, you are right about the Legazpi Towers 300 building because the Legazpi Towers 100 and Legazpi Towers 200 buildings in Legazpi Village in Makati were built in the early to mid-‘70s and the 300 came after the two.
I received many e-mails from balikbayans, like this from L. Francisco. “First, thank you for the very interesting articles about the good old days coupled with stunning aerials. I left for the US almost 40 years ago and visit at least twice a year. I am here for a few days and saw the article this morning! Excellent handling! Have you ever thought about doing a then-and-now aerial (now you’ll really need a helicopter!). Here’s to continued success and enthusiasm!”
Thank you Ms. Francisco. I hope to do a book someday with a then-and-now theme (though I cannot use that title as it was my friend Manolo Quezon’s book consolidating his series of historical anecdotes.). I’m saving up for a helicopter.
This week, so as to cover more of the Philippines, we feature aerials of Cebu. The first three are hand-colored pictures of Cebu in 1910. The Americans preserved the old Fort San Pedro and the commercial district of Colon. A new city was planned in the manner of Burnham’s Manila by William E. Parsons. It was laid out right before the war but never got fleshed out as intended.
The black-and-white pictures form the second, more contemporary images. They are from the Third National Eucharistic Congress of the Philippines celebrated in April and May of 1965. The year also marked the fourth centennial of the Christianization of the country.
The pictures were taken by photographer Pedro Roble, who exhibited his fascinating aerials of the city during the celebration. The pictures were included in the event’s commemorative book, of which I have a well-preserved copy.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6199/lif1m.jpg
Looking down Osmeña Avenue towards the Cebu provincial capitol. The Villalon ancestral house is to the right beyond.
The book is the usual compilation of messages and stories related to the event but aside from the historical significance of the celebration, it is the pictures and an essay by Nick Joaquin that drew me to the book.
The opening spread is a panorama of Cebu City looking west. In the foreground is the port area and “downtown.” The Carbon market is also visible nearby. Cutting a formal axis eastward from the city to what Cebuanos call “uptown” is Osmeña Avenue. The grand boulevard ends with the stately Cebu provincial capitol. The capitol was designed by architect Antonio Toledo in a hybrid Art Deco style and was completed just before the war.
To the left of Osmeña in the picture is Aznar Coliseum, Cebu’s answer to the Araneta Coliseum, albeit not quite as big. On the upper right of the picture is Lahug Airport, which is now an Ayala development (actually its subsidiary’s — Cebu Holdings). Planes used to land right in the city until the transfer to Mactan in the ‘70s.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7510/lif1b.jpg
The next picture is of the Cebu harbor and the city’s new reclamation area where the centennial “Templete” (small temple) was built. (Manila, which hosted the initial Eucharistic Congresses, held it at the Luneta). The Cebu reclamation, shown in the image, is now the site of an SM mall.
Aerials were taken of the event’s main procession as it wound through the city streets from downtown to the provincial capitol. Many of the city’s postwar buildings from the ‘50s and ‘60s are still there because most of Cebu’s development has concentrated on the suburban areas northwest towards the Lahug area.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3138/lif1c.jpg
The quadri-centennial (400 years) was attended by the Papal Legate Ildebrando Cardinal Antoniutti, the representative of Pope Paul the Sixth. Host in Cebu was Archbishop Julio R. Rosales, who was to become a cardinal later. The revered Fr. Patrick Peyton, founder of the Family Rosary Movement, gave an address. President Diosdado Macapagal and his family were in attendance as were guests of Mayor Sergio Osmeña, Jr. Thousands came from Manila and hundreds from overseas to participate in the celebrations.
The event was the largest celebration in Cebu’s history. Funds were raised by a national committee led by Cornelio Balmaceda and Gregorio Santayana. Members were Carlos Palanca Jr., Manuel Elizalde Jr., Andres Soriano Fr., Esto Rufino, Jesus Cabarrus, Demeterio Muñoz, Francisco Ortigas Jr., Ramon Aboitiz and Carlos Fernandez. The honorary chairperson was First Lady Evangelina M. Macapagal.
I end this piece with excerpts from Nick Joaquin’s essay on Cebu, where he describes the city’s march to progress then (which has been swallowed up in today’s hectic real estate development) and its unique culinary delights (which persist to this day.)
Quijano de Manila wrote: “…the (city) is expanding. Not only out to sea (where the reclamation projects have been more successful than in Manila) but also up to the surrounding mountains, where modern suburbs are following newly opened roads. From one such elevated suburb, Beverly Hills, one sees the whole spread of the city; and joyriding up to Beverly Hills has replaced, for teenagers, the joyrides along Jones Avenue or Capitol Drive. The city, curiously enough, has no seaside boulevard, but may develop one along the reclaimed areas.
“Lovers of local color still have San Nicolas and adjoining barrios wherein to savor el Cebu viejo. There they can try carabao meat boiled in lard and spices, dugo-dugo with corn grits, and small pickled oysters called sise. The truly adventurous might even attempt raw fish in kinilaw or the dried fish Cebuanos love — ginamos or tinabal or maos-maos — which they say is most delicious when wormy. You wash it down with strong gin, and you have to.”
Cebu faltered a bit after the Eucharistic Congress but picked up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Today, it is a booming metropolis that is bursting at the seams. It sorely lacks a comprehensive metropolitan plan and a larger regional plan that includes Mactan and the sprawl north and south of the city.
Just like Manila, it is a lovable mess that is magnificent in spots but the victim of ill-advised, over-priced, un-sustainable development elsewhere. It still has no seaside boulevard, no central park, or network of open spaces, no rapid transit system but it has Sinulog, great resorts nearby and wonderful food and furniture.
Hopefully, this current economic slowdown will allow Cebuanos to rethink their premier city and plan it to surpass Manila and even Singapore, which it envies and aspires to be. I hope they can survey this expanding metropolis from the air and discover the opportunities of its waterfront, its proximity to Mactan (and Bohol) and its built heritage of fine architecture, cathedrals, civic buildings and ancestral homes.
icarusrising April 14th, 2009, 06:27 AM Aerials of Cebu (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454895&publicationSubCategoryId=85)
CITY SENSE By Paulo Alcazaren Updated April 04, 2009 12:00 AM
The two articles showing aerials from metropolitan Manila’s past have been quite a hit with readers. Many e-mailed to tell me how much they enjoyed the pieces and the look back in time.
Typical of these e-mails is one from Pido A., who wrote that he “…enjoyed the article today. It brought me back several years…” Pido then filled his e-mail with the correct identification of most of the buildings in the pictures. Many other readers did the same and some, in fact, corrected the mis-captioning of a number of the aerials.
Nilo G wrote: “I’m a regular reader of your column and always enjoy reading them. In today’s (March 28) issue, I think there is some mislabeling of the pictures. The image of ‘The Benpres building on Tektite St. in the ’60s’ is actually a picture of the Strata 100 Bldg (center) and the Padilla Building (right-hand side).”
He pointed out that “The picture of the CCP was captioned as being taken ‘in the late ’60s’ but the Legazpi Towers 300 was already there. When I was passing the area every weekday in 1976 (my first year in college) on my bus rides from Cavite to Plaza Lawton, I recall that the Legazpi Towers were still being constructed, so I think the caption should be ‘in the late ’70s.’” Nilo ended with, “Many thanks to you for the kind of unique, interesting, and nostalgic features that only you write in my favorite paper.”
Yes, Nilo, you are right about the Legazpi Towers 300 building because the Legazpi Towers 100 and Legazpi Towers 200 buildings in Legazpi Village in Makati were built in the early to mid-‘70s and the 300 came after the two.
I received many e-mails from balikbayans, like this from L. Francisco. “First, thank you for the very interesting articles about the good old days coupled with stunning aerials. I left for the US almost 40 years ago and visit at least twice a year. I am here for a few days and saw the article this morning! Excellent handling! Have you ever thought about doing a then-and-now aerial (now you’ll really need a helicopter!). Here’s to continued success and enthusiasm!”
Thank you Ms. Francisco. I hope to do a book someday with a then-and-now theme (though I cannot use that title as it was my friend Manolo Quezon’s book consolidating his series of historical anecdotes.). I’m saving up for a helicopter.
This week, so as to cover more of the Philippines, we feature aerials of Cebu. The first three are hand-colored pictures of Cebu in 1910. The Americans preserved the old Fort San Pedro and the commercial district of Colon. A new city was planned in the manner of Burnham’s Manila by William E. Parsons. It was laid out right before the war but never got fleshed out as intended.
The black-and-white pictures form the second, more contemporary images. They are from the Third National Eucharistic Congress of the Philippines celebrated in April and May of 1965. The year also marked the fourth centennial of the Christianization of the country.
The pictures were taken by photographer Pedro Roble, who exhibited his fascinating aerials of the city during the celebration. The pictures were included in the event’s commemorative book, of which I have a well-preserved copy.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6199/lif1m.jpg
Looking down Osmeña Avenue towards the Cebu provincial capitol. The Villalon ancestral house is to the right beyond.
The book is the usual compilation of messages and stories related to the event but aside from the historical significance of the celebration, it is the pictures and an essay by Nick Joaquin that drew me to the book.
The opening spread is a panorama of Cebu City looking west. In the foreground is the port area and “downtown.” The Carbon market is also visible nearby. Cutting a formal axis eastward from the city to what Cebuanos call “uptown” is Osmeña Avenue. The grand boulevard ends with the stately Cebu provincial capitol. The capitol was designed by architect Antonio Toledo in a hybrid Art Deco style and was completed just before the war.
To the left of Osmeña in the picture is Aznar Coliseum, Cebu’s answer to the Araneta Coliseum, albeit not quite as big. On the upper right of the picture is Lahug Airport, which is now an Ayala development (actually its subsidiary’s — Cebu Holdings). Planes used to land right in the city until the transfer to Mactan in the ‘70s.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7510/lif1b.jpg
The next picture is of the Cebu harbor and the city’s new reclamation area where the centennial “Templete” (small temple) was built. (Manila, which hosted the initial Eucharistic Congresses, held it at the Luneta). The Cebu reclamation, shown in the image, is now the site of an SM mall.
Aerials were taken of the event’s main procession as it wound through the city streets from downtown to the provincial capitol. Many of the city’s postwar buildings from the ‘50s and ‘60s are still there because most of Cebu’s development has concentrated on the suburban areas northwest towards the Lahug area.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3138/lif1c.jpg
The quadri-centennial (400 years) was attended by the Papal Legate Ildebrando Cardinal Antoniutti, the representative of Pope Paul the Sixth. Host in Cebu was Archbishop Julio R. Rosales, who was to become a cardinal later. The revered Fr. Patrick Peyton, founder of the Family Rosary Movement, gave an address. President Diosdado Macapagal and his family were in attendance as were guests of Mayor Sergio Osmeña, Jr. Thousands came from Manila and hundreds from overseas to participate in the celebrations.
The event was the largest celebration in Cebu’s history. Funds were raised by a national committee led by Cornelio Balmaceda and Gregorio Santayana. Members were Carlos Palanca Jr., Manuel Elizalde Jr., Andres Soriano Fr., Esto Rufino, Jesus Cabarrus, Demeterio Muñoz, Francisco Ortigas Jr., Ramon Aboitiz and Carlos Fernandez. The honorary chairperson was First Lady Evangelina M. Macapagal.
I end this piece with excerpts from Nick Joaquin’s essay on Cebu, where he describes the city’s march to progress then (which has been swallowed up in today’s hectic real estate development) and its unique culinary delights (which persist to this day.)
Quijano de Manila wrote: “…the (city) is expanding. Not only out to sea (where the reclamation projects have been more successful than in Manila) but also up to the surrounding mountains, where modern suburbs are following newly opened roads. From one such elevated suburb, Beverly Hills, one sees the whole spread of the city; and joyriding up to Beverly Hills has replaced, for teenagers, the joyrides along Jones Avenue or Capitol Drive. The city, curiously enough, has no seaside boulevard, but may develop one along the reclaimed areas.
“Lovers of local color still have San Nicolas and adjoining barrios wherein to savor el Cebu viejo. There they can try carabao meat boiled in lard and spices, dugo-dugo with corn grits, and small pickled oysters called sise. The truly adventurous might even attempt raw fish in kinilaw or the dried fish Cebuanos love — ginamos or tinabal or maos-maos — which they say is most delicious when wormy. You wash it down with strong gin, and you have to.”
Cebu faltered a bit after the Eucharistic Congress but picked up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Today, it is a booming metropolis that is bursting at the seams. It sorely lacks a comprehensive metropolitan plan and a larger regional plan that includes Mactan and the sprawl north and south of the city.
Just like Manila, it is a lovable mess that is magnificent in spots but the victim of ill-advised, over-priced, un-sustainable development elsewhere. It still has no seaside boulevard, no central park, or network of open spaces, no rapid transit system but it has Sinulog, great resorts nearby and wonderful food and furniture.
Hopefully, this current economic slowdown will allow Cebuanos to rethink their premier city and plan it to surpass Manila and even Singapore, which it envies and aspires to be. I hope they can survey this expanding metropolis from the air and discover the opportunities of its waterfront, its proximity to Mactan (and Bohol) and its built heritage of fine architecture, cathedrals, civic buildings and ancestral homes.
gee April 14th, 2009, 08:17 AM http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3138/lif1c.jpg
^^ Seminario Mayor de San Carlos
gee April 14th, 2009, 08:17 AM http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3138/lif1c.jpg
^^ Seminario Mayor de San Carlos
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 05:29 AM Aerials of Cebu (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454895&publicationSubCategoryId=85)
CITY SENSE By Paulo Alcazaren Updated April 04, 2009 12:00 AM
The two articles showing aerials from metropolitan Manila’s past have been quite a hit with readers. Many e-mailed to tell me how much they enjoyed the pieces and the look back in time.
Typical of these e-mails is one from Pido A., who wrote that he “…enjoyed the article today. It brought me back several years…” Pido then filled his e-mail with the correct identification of most of the buildings in the pictures. Many other readers did the same and some, in fact, corrected the mis-captioning of a number of the aerials.
Nilo G wrote: “I’m a regular reader of your column and always enjoy reading them. In today’s (March 28) issue, I think there is some mislabeling of the pictures. The image of ‘The Benpres building on Tektite St. in the ’60s’ is actually a picture of the Strata 100 Bldg (center) and the Padilla Building (right-hand side).”
He pointed out that “The picture of the CCP was captioned as being taken ‘in the late ’60s’ but the Legazpi Towers 300 was already there. When I was passing the area every weekday in 1976 (my first year in college) on my bus rides from Cavite to Plaza Lawton, I recall that the Legazpi Towers were still being constructed, so I think the caption should be ‘in the late ’70s.’” Nilo ended with, “Many thanks to you for the kind of unique, interesting, and nostalgic features that only you write in my favorite paper.”
Yes, Nilo, you are right about the Legazpi Towers 300 building because the Legazpi Towers 100 and Legazpi Towers 200 buildings in Legazpi Village in Makati were built in the early to mid-‘70s and the 300 came after the two.
I received many e-mails from balikbayans, like this from L. Francisco. “First, thank you for the very interesting articles about the good old days coupled with stunning aerials. I left for the US almost 40 years ago and visit at least twice a year. I am here for a few days and saw the article this morning! Excellent handling! Have you ever thought about doing a then-and-now aerial (now you’ll really need a helicopter!). Here’s to continued success and enthusiasm!”
Thank you Ms. Francisco. I hope to do a book someday with a then-and-now theme (though I cannot use that title as it was my friend Manolo Quezon’s book consolidating his series of historical anecdotes.). I’m saving up for a helicopter.
This week, so as to cover more of the Philippines, we feature aerials of Cebu. The first three are hand-colored pictures of Cebu in 1910. The Americans preserved the old Fort San Pedro and the commercial district of Colon. A new city was planned in the manner of Burnham’s Manila by William E. Parsons. It was laid out right before the war but never got fleshed out as intended.
The black-and-white pictures form the second, more contemporary images. They are from the Third National Eucharistic Congress of the Philippines celebrated in April and May of 1965. The year also marked the fourth centennial of the Christianization of the country.
The pictures were taken by photographer Pedro Roble, who exhibited his fascinating aerials of the city during the celebration. The pictures were included in the event’s commemorative book, of which I have a well-preserved copy.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6199/lif1m.jpg
Looking down Osmeña Avenue towards the Cebu provincial capitol. The Villalon ancestral house is to the right beyond.
The book is the usual compilation of messages and stories related to the event but aside from the historical significance of the celebration, it is the pictures and an essay by Nick Joaquin that drew me to the book.
The opening spread is a panorama of Cebu City looking west. In the foreground is the port area and “downtown.” The Carbon market is also visible nearby. Cutting a formal axis eastward from the city to what Cebuanos call “uptown” is Osmeña Avenue. The grand boulevard ends with the stately Cebu provincial capitol. The capitol was designed by architect Antonio Toledo in a hybrid Art Deco style and was completed just before the war.
To the left of Osmeña in the picture is Aznar Coliseum, Cebu’s answer to the Araneta Coliseum, albeit not quite as big. On the upper right of the picture is Lahug Airport, which is now an Ayala development (actually its subsidiary’s — Cebu Holdings). Planes used to land right in the city until the transfer to Mactan in the ‘70s.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7510/lif1b.jpg
The next picture is of the Cebu harbor and the city’s new reclamation area where the centennial “Templete” (small temple) was built. (Manila, which hosted the initial Eucharistic Congresses, held it at the Luneta). The Cebu reclamation, shown in the image, is now the site of an SM mall.
Aerials were taken of the event’s main procession as it wound through the city streets from downtown to the provincial capitol. Many of the city’s postwar buildings from the ‘50s and ‘60s are still there because most of Cebu’s development has concentrated on the suburban areas northwest towards the Lahug area.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3138/lif1c.jpg
The quadri-centennial (400 years) was attended by the Papal Legate Ildebrando Cardinal Antoniutti, the representative of Pope Paul the Sixth. Host in Cebu was Archbishop Julio R. Rosales, who was to become a cardinal later. The revered Fr. Patrick Peyton, founder of the Family Rosary Movement, gave an address. President Diosdado Macapagal and his family were in attendance as were guests of Mayor Sergio Osmeña, Jr. Thousands came from Manila and hundreds from overseas to participate in the celebrations.
The event was the largest celebration in Cebu’s history. Funds were raised by a national committee led by Cornelio Balmaceda and Gregorio Santayana. Members were Carlos Palanca Jr., Manuel Elizalde Jr., Andres Soriano Fr., Esto Rufino, Jesus Cabarrus, Demeterio Muñoz, Francisco Ortigas Jr., Ramon Aboitiz and Carlos Fernandez. The honorary chairperson was First Lady Evangelina M. Macapagal.
I end this piece with excerpts from Nick Joaquin’s essay on Cebu, where he describes the city’s march to progress then (which has been swallowed up in today’s hectic real estate development) and its unique culinary delights (which persist to this day.)
Quijano de Manila wrote: “…the (city) is expanding. Not only out to sea (where the reclamation projects have been more successful than in Manila) but also up to the surrounding mountains, where modern suburbs are following newly opened roads. From one such elevated suburb, Beverly Hills, one sees the whole spread of the city; and joyriding up to Beverly Hills has replaced, for teenagers, the joyrides along Jones Avenue or Capitol Drive. The city, curiously enough, has no seaside boulevard, but may develop one along the reclaimed areas.
“Lovers of local color still have San Nicolas and adjoining barrios wherein to savor el Cebu viejo. There they can try carabao meat boiled in lard and spices, dugo-dugo with corn grits, and small pickled oysters called sise. The truly adventurous might even attempt raw fish in kinilaw or the dried fish Cebuanos love — ginamos or tinabal or maos-maos — which they say is most delicious when wormy. You wash it down with strong gin, and you have to.”
Cebu faltered a bit after the Eucharistic Congress but picked up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Today, it is a booming metropolis that is bursting at the seams. It sorely lacks a comprehensive metropolitan plan and a larger regional plan that includes Mactan and the sprawl north and south of the city.
Just like Manila, it is a lovable mess that is magnificent in spots but the victim of ill-advised, over-priced, un-sustainable development elsewhere. It still has no seaside boulevard, no central park, or network of open spaces, no rapid transit system but it has Sinulog, great resorts nearby and wonderful food and furniture.
Hopefully, this current economic slowdown will allow Cebuanos to rethink their premier city and plan it to surpass Manila and even Singapore, which it envies and aspires to be. I hope they can survey this expanding metropolis from the air and discover the opportunities of its waterfront, its proximity to Mactan (and Bohol) and its built heritage of fine architecture, cathedrals, civic buildings and ancestral homes.
I really want to ask everyone this question ever since nakabasa ko sa book nga "Lugar" ni Toti Villalon. Kinsa man jud ang architect sa Cebu Provincial Capitol? si Antonio Toledo or si Juan Arellano?
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 05:29 AM Aerials of Cebu (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454895&publicationSubCategoryId=85)
CITY SENSE By Paulo Alcazaren Updated April 04, 2009 12:00 AM
The two articles showing aerials from metropolitan Manila’s past have been quite a hit with readers. Many e-mailed to tell me how much they enjoyed the pieces and the look back in time.
Typical of these e-mails is one from Pido A., who wrote that he “…enjoyed the article today. It brought me back several years…” Pido then filled his e-mail with the correct identification of most of the buildings in the pictures. Many other readers did the same and some, in fact, corrected the mis-captioning of a number of the aerials.
Nilo G wrote: “I’m a regular reader of your column and always enjoy reading them. In today’s (March 28) issue, I think there is some mislabeling of the pictures. The image of ‘The Benpres building on Tektite St. in the ’60s’ is actually a picture of the Strata 100 Bldg (center) and the Padilla Building (right-hand side).”
He pointed out that “The picture of the CCP was captioned as being taken ‘in the late ’60s’ but the Legazpi Towers 300 was already there. When I was passing the area every weekday in 1976 (my first year in college) on my bus rides from Cavite to Plaza Lawton, I recall that the Legazpi Towers were still being constructed, so I think the caption should be ‘in the late ’70s.’” Nilo ended with, “Many thanks to you for the kind of unique, interesting, and nostalgic features that only you write in my favorite paper.”
Yes, Nilo, you are right about the Legazpi Towers 300 building because the Legazpi Towers 100 and Legazpi Towers 200 buildings in Legazpi Village in Makati were built in the early to mid-‘70s and the 300 came after the two.
I received many e-mails from balikbayans, like this from L. Francisco. “First, thank you for the very interesting articles about the good old days coupled with stunning aerials. I left for the US almost 40 years ago and visit at least twice a year. I am here for a few days and saw the article this morning! Excellent handling! Have you ever thought about doing a then-and-now aerial (now you’ll really need a helicopter!). Here’s to continued success and enthusiasm!”
Thank you Ms. Francisco. I hope to do a book someday with a then-and-now theme (though I cannot use that title as it was my friend Manolo Quezon’s book consolidating his series of historical anecdotes.). I’m saving up for a helicopter.
This week, so as to cover more of the Philippines, we feature aerials of Cebu. The first three are hand-colored pictures of Cebu in 1910. The Americans preserved the old Fort San Pedro and the commercial district of Colon. A new city was planned in the manner of Burnham’s Manila by William E. Parsons. It was laid out right before the war but never got fleshed out as intended.
The black-and-white pictures form the second, more contemporary images. They are from the Third National Eucharistic Congress of the Philippines celebrated in April and May of 1965. The year also marked the fourth centennial of the Christianization of the country.
The pictures were taken by photographer Pedro Roble, who exhibited his fascinating aerials of the city during the celebration. The pictures were included in the event’s commemorative book, of which I have a well-preserved copy.
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Looking down Osmeña Avenue towards the Cebu provincial capitol. The Villalon ancestral house is to the right beyond.
The book is the usual compilation of messages and stories related to the event but aside from the historical significance of the celebration, it is the pictures and an essay by Nick Joaquin that drew me to the book.
The opening spread is a panorama of Cebu City looking west. In the foreground is the port area and “downtown.” The Carbon market is also visible nearby. Cutting a formal axis eastward from the city to what Cebuanos call “uptown” is Osmeña Avenue. The grand boulevard ends with the stately Cebu provincial capitol. The capitol was designed by architect Antonio Toledo in a hybrid Art Deco style and was completed just before the war.
To the left of Osmeña in the picture is Aznar Coliseum, Cebu’s answer to the Araneta Coliseum, albeit not quite as big. On the upper right of the picture is Lahug Airport, which is now an Ayala development (actually its subsidiary’s — Cebu Holdings). Planes used to land right in the city until the transfer to Mactan in the ‘70s.
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The next picture is of the Cebu harbor and the city’s new reclamation area where the centennial “Templete” (small temple) was built. (Manila, which hosted the initial Eucharistic Congresses, held it at the Luneta). The Cebu reclamation, shown in the image, is now the site of an SM mall.
Aerials were taken of the event’s main procession as it wound through the city streets from downtown to the provincial capitol. Many of the city’s postwar buildings from the ‘50s and ‘60s are still there because most of Cebu’s development has concentrated on the suburban areas northwest towards the Lahug area.
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The quadri-centennial (400 years) was attended by the Papal Legate Ildebrando Cardinal Antoniutti, the representative of Pope Paul the Sixth. Host in Cebu was Archbishop Julio R. Rosales, who was to become a cardinal later. The revered Fr. Patrick Peyton, founder of the Family Rosary Movement, gave an address. President Diosdado Macapagal and his family were in attendance as were guests of Mayor Sergio Osmeña, Jr. Thousands came from Manila and hundreds from overseas to participate in the celebrations.
The event was the largest celebration in Cebu’s history. Funds were raised by a national committee led by Cornelio Balmaceda and Gregorio Santayana. Members were Carlos Palanca Jr., Manuel Elizalde Jr., Andres Soriano Fr., Esto Rufino, Jesus Cabarrus, Demeterio Muñoz, Francisco Ortigas Jr., Ramon Aboitiz and Carlos Fernandez. The honorary chairperson was First Lady Evangelina M. Macapagal.
I end this piece with excerpts from Nick Joaquin’s essay on Cebu, where he describes the city’s march to progress then (which has been swallowed up in today’s hectic real estate development) and its unique culinary delights (which persist to this day.)
Quijano de Manila wrote: “…the (city) is expanding. Not only out to sea (where the reclamation projects have been more successful than in Manila) but also up to the surrounding mountains, where modern suburbs are following newly opened roads. From one such elevated suburb, Beverly Hills, one sees the whole spread of the city; and joyriding up to Beverly Hills has replaced, for teenagers, the joyrides along Jones Avenue or Capitol Drive. The city, curiously enough, has no seaside boulevard, but may develop one along the reclaimed areas.
“Lovers of local color still have San Nicolas and adjoining barrios wherein to savor el Cebu viejo. There they can try carabao meat boiled in lard and spices, dugo-dugo with corn grits, and small pickled oysters called sise. The truly adventurous might even attempt raw fish in kinilaw or the dried fish Cebuanos love — ginamos or tinabal or maos-maos — which they say is most delicious when wormy. You wash it down with strong gin, and you have to.”
Cebu faltered a bit after the Eucharistic Congress but picked up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Today, it is a booming metropolis that is bursting at the seams. It sorely lacks a comprehensive metropolitan plan and a larger regional plan that includes Mactan and the sprawl north and south of the city.
Just like Manila, it is a lovable mess that is magnificent in spots but the victim of ill-advised, over-priced, un-sustainable development elsewhere. It still has no seaside boulevard, no central park, or network of open spaces, no rapid transit system but it has Sinulog, great resorts nearby and wonderful food and furniture.
Hopefully, this current economic slowdown will allow Cebuanos to rethink their premier city and plan it to surpass Manila and even Singapore, which it envies and aspires to be. I hope they can survey this expanding metropolis from the air and discover the opportunities of its waterfront, its proximity to Mactan (and Bohol) and its built heritage of fine architecture, cathedrals, civic buildings and ancestral homes.
I really want to ask everyone this question ever since nakabasa ko sa book nga "Lugar" ni Toti Villalon. Kinsa man jud ang architect sa Cebu Provincial Capitol? si Antonio Toledo or si Juan Arellano?
archaeologue April 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM I really want to ask everyone this question ever since nakabasa ko sa book nga "Lugar" ni Toti Villalon. Kinsa man jud ang architect sa Cebu Provincial Capitol? si Antonio Toledo or si Juan Arellano?
Juan Arellano is credited as the architect in the "Official Blue Book of the Capitol", published in 1937.
Unfortunately, as of this writing, no record survives at the DPWH Archives (at the Manila Harbor) of the plans for the capitol.
archaeologue April 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM I really want to ask everyone this question ever since nakabasa ko sa book nga "Lugar" ni Toti Villalon. Kinsa man jud ang architect sa Cebu Provincial Capitol? si Antonio Toledo or si Juan Arellano?
Juan Arellano is credited as the architect in the "Official Blue Book of the Capitol", published in 1937.
Unfortunately, as of this writing, no record survives at the DPWH Archives (at the Manila Harbor) of the plans for the capitol.
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 05:05 PM Juan Arellano is credited as the architect in the "Official Blue Book of the Capitol", published in 1937.
Unfortunately, as of this writing, no record survives at the DPWH Archives (at the Manila Harbor) of the plans for the capitol.
Thanks. Where could we access this Blue Book?
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 05:05 PM Juan Arellano is credited as the architect in the "Official Blue Book of the Capitol", published in 1937.
Unfortunately, as of this writing, no record survives at the DPWH Archives (at the Manila Harbor) of the plans for the capitol.
Thanks. Where could we access this Blue Book?
Jarenz April 15th, 2009, 06:29 PM Bishops of Cebu
Pedro de Agurto, O.S.A. (Appointed: 30 Aug 1595 - 14 Oct 1608 Died)
Pedro Arce, O.S.A. (Appointed: 17 Sep 1612 - 16 Oct 1645 Died)
Juan Velez (Appointed: 26 Jan 1660 - 1662 Died)
Juan López (Appointed: 23 Apr 1663 - 14 Nov 1672 Appointed, Archbishop of Manila)
Diego de Aguilar, O.P. (Appointed: 16 Nov 1676 - 1 Oct 1692 Died)
Miguel Bayot, O.F.M. (Appointed: 13 May 1697 - 28 Aug 1700 Died)
Pedro Sanz de la Vega y Landaverde, O. de M. (Appointed: 26 Jan 1705 - 17 Dec 1717 Died)
Manuel de Ocio y Campo (Appointed: 20 Jan 1734 - 21 Jul 1737 Died)
Protacio Cabezas (Appointed: 29 Aug 1740 - 3 Feb 1753 Died)
Miguel Lino de Ezpeleta (Appointed: 18 Jul 1757 - 1771 Died)
Mateo Joaquin Rubio de Arevalo (Appointed: 13 Nov 1775 - 1788 Died)
Ignacio de Salamanca (Appointed: 24 Sep 1792 - Feb 1802 Died)
Joaquín Encabo de la Virgen de Sopetrán, O.A.R. (Appointed: 20 Aug 1804 - 8 Nov 1818 Died)
Francisco Genovés, O.P. (Appointed: 21 Mar 1825 - 1 Aug 1827 Died)
Santos Gómez Marañón, O.S.A. (Appointed: 28 Sep 1829 - 23 Oct 1840 Died)
Romualdo Jimeno Ballesteros, O.P. (Appointed: 19 Jan 1846 - 17 Mar 1872 Died)
Benito Romero, O.F.M. (Appointed: 28 Jan 1876 - 4 Nov 1885 Died)
Martín García y Alcocer, O.F.M. (Appointed: 7 Jun 1886 - 30 Jul 1904 Resigned)
Thomas A. Hendrick (Appointed: 17 Jul 1903 - 29 Nov 1909 Died)
Juan Bautista Gorordo (Appointed: 2 Apr 1910 - 19 Jun 1931 Resigned)
Gabriele Martelino Reyes (Appointed: 29 Jul 1932 - 25 Aug 1949 Appointed, Coadjutor Archbishop of Manila)
Julio Rosales y Ras (Appointed: 17 Dec 1949 - 24 Aug 1982 Retired)
Ricardo Jamin Vidal (Succeeded: 24 Aug 1982 - )
Secular: 12 [1660-1672, 1734-1802, 1904-present]
Augustinian (OSA): 3 [1595-1645, 1829-1840]
Dominican (OP): 3 [1676-1692, 1825-1827, 1846-1872]
Franciscan (OFM): 3 [1697-1700, 1876-1904]
Recollect (OAR): 1 [1804-1818]
Mercedarian (O de M): 1 [1705-1717]
Tnx for the info... Very detailed...
Jarenz April 15th, 2009, 06:29 PM Bishops of Cebu
Pedro de Agurto, O.S.A. (Appointed: 30 Aug 1595 - 14 Oct 1608 Died)
Pedro Arce, O.S.A. (Appointed: 17 Sep 1612 - 16 Oct 1645 Died)
Juan Velez (Appointed: 26 Jan 1660 - 1662 Died)
Juan López (Appointed: 23 Apr 1663 - 14 Nov 1672 Appointed, Archbishop of Manila)
Diego de Aguilar, O.P. (Appointed: 16 Nov 1676 - 1 Oct 1692 Died)
Miguel Bayot, O.F.M. (Appointed: 13 May 1697 - 28 Aug 1700 Died)
Pedro Sanz de la Vega y Landaverde, O. de M. (Appointed: 26 Jan 1705 - 17 Dec 1717 Died)
Manuel de Ocio y Campo (Appointed: 20 Jan 1734 - 21 Jul 1737 Died)
Protacio Cabezas (Appointed: 29 Aug 1740 - 3 Feb 1753 Died)
Miguel Lino de Ezpeleta (Appointed: 18 Jul 1757 - 1771 Died)
Mateo Joaquin Rubio de Arevalo (Appointed: 13 Nov 1775 - 1788 Died)
Ignacio de Salamanca (Appointed: 24 Sep 1792 - Feb 1802 Died)
Joaquín Encabo de la Virgen de Sopetrán, O.A.R. (Appointed: 20 Aug 1804 - 8 Nov 1818 Died)
Francisco Genovés, O.P. (Appointed: 21 Mar 1825 - 1 Aug 1827 Died)
Santos Gómez Marañón, O.S.A. (Appointed: 28 Sep 1829 - 23 Oct 1840 Died)
Romualdo Jimeno Ballesteros, O.P. (Appointed: 19 Jan 1846 - 17 Mar 1872 Died)
Benito Romero, O.F.M. (Appointed: 28 Jan 1876 - 4 Nov 1885 Died)
Martín García y Alcocer, O.F.M. (Appointed: 7 Jun 1886 - 30 Jul 1904 Resigned)
Thomas A. Hendrick (Appointed: 17 Jul 1903 - 29 Nov 1909 Died)
Juan Bautista Gorordo (Appointed: 2 Apr 1910 - 19 Jun 1931 Resigned)
Gabriele Martelino Reyes (Appointed: 29 Jul 1932 - 25 Aug 1949 Appointed, Coadjutor Archbishop of Manila)
Julio Rosales y Ras (Appointed: 17 Dec 1949 - 24 Aug 1982 Retired)
Ricardo Jamin Vidal (Succeeded: 24 Aug 1982 - )
Secular: 12 [1660-1672, 1734-1802, 1904-present]
Augustinian (OSA): 3 [1595-1645, 1829-1840]
Dominican (OP): 3 [1676-1692, 1825-1827, 1846-1872]
Franciscan (OFM): 3 [1697-1700, 1876-1904]
Recollect (OAR): 1 [1804-1818]
Mercedarian (O de M): 1 [1705-1717]
Tnx for the info... Very detailed...
archaeologue April 15th, 2009, 06:30 PM Thanks. Where could we access this Blue Book?
The orginal is on display at Gallery 4 of Museo Sugbo. I think Archt. Melva Java has a photocopy. My copy was used by NHI for the issuance of the marker at the Capitol.
We will soon be scanning a copy of the original so that it can be stored.
I will post a few sections as soon as that is done, which is maybe in a month or two.
archaeologue April 15th, 2009, 06:30 PM Thanks. Where could we access this Blue Book?
The orginal is on display at Gallery 4 of Museo Sugbo. I think Archt. Melva Java has a photocopy. My copy was used by NHI for the issuance of the marker at the Capitol.
We will soon be scanning a copy of the original so that it can be stored.
I will post a few sections as soon as that is done, which is maybe in a month or two.
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 07:31 PM The orginal is on display at Gallery 4 of Museo Sugbo. I think Archt. Melva Java has a photocopy. My copy was used by NHI for the issuance of the marker at the Capitol.
We will soon be scanning a copy of the original so that it can be stored.
I will post a few sections as soon as that is done, which is maybe in a month or two.
Thanks so much. I am really interested with the architecture and history of the Capitol building. :)
Can we browse the original book displayed at Museo Sugbo or is it glass-encased?
Wolfranz April 15th, 2009, 07:31 PM The orginal is on display at Gallery 4 of Museo Sugbo. I think Archt. Melva Java has a photocopy. My copy was used by NHI for the issuance of the marker at the Capitol.
We will soon be scanning a copy of the original so that it can be stored.
I will post a few sections as soon as that is done, which is maybe in a month or two.
Thanks so much. I am really interested with the architecture and history of the Capitol building. :)
Can we browse the original book displayed at Museo Sugbo or is it glass-encased?
MatudNilaBaby April 15th, 2009, 08:03 PM Tnx for the info... Very detailed...
i think reyes, rosales and vidal are archbishops of cebu and at the same time elevated as cardinals. the rest were bishops when cebu was still a diocese.
MatudNilaBaby April 15th, 2009, 08:03 PM Tnx for the info... Very detailed...
i think reyes, rosales and vidal are archbishops of cebu and at the same time elevated as cardinals. the rest were bishops when cebu was still a diocese.
gee April 15th, 2009, 08:51 PM i think reyes, rosales and vidal are archbishops of cebu and at the same time elevated as cardinals. the rest were bishops when cebu was still a diocese.
reyes did not become cardinal, he was later transferred to manila. his successor as archbishop of manila, rufino santos, became the first filipino cardinal.
Church Trivia:
In 1957 Archbishop Julio Rosales ordained his nephew Fr. Pedro Rosales Dean, whom he later appointed as his personal secretary and as treasurer of the Archdiocese of Cebu. Fr. Dean served as secretary and treasurer until 1977, when he was appointed auxiliary bishop of Davao. Dean later became the bishop of Tagum and subsequently archbishop of Palo, Leyte.
Archbishop Gabriel Reyes was Cardinal Sin's uncle. Another bishop in the family is the present bishop of Antipolo, Most Rev. Gabriel Reyes, who was Sin's personal secretary from 1974-1979. In 1981 he was appointed auxiliary bishop of manila. he later served as bishop of kalibo.
Archbishop Osvaldo Padilla, the nuncio to Korea, is the elder brother of Archbishop Francisco Padilla, nuncio to Papua New Guinea.
Bishop Florentino Cinense of Tarlac, is a nephew of Archbishop Emilio Cinense, former archbishop of San Fernando, Pampanga.
gee April 15th, 2009, 08:51 PM i think reyes, rosales and vidal are archbishops of cebu and at the same time elevated as cardinals. the rest were bishops when cebu was still a diocese.
reyes did not become cardinal, he was later transferred to manila. his successor as archbishop of manila, rufino santos, became the first filipino cardinal.
Church Trivia:
In 1957 Archbishop Julio Rosales ordained his nephew Fr. Pedro Rosales Dean, whom he later appointed as his personal secretary and as treasurer of the Archdiocese of Cebu. Fr. Dean served as secretary and treasurer until 1977, when he was appointed auxiliary bishop of Davao. Dean later became the bishop of Tagum and subsequently archbishop of Palo, Leyte.
Archbishop Gabriel Reyes was Cardinal Sin's uncle. Another bishop in the family is the present bishop of Antipolo, Most Rev. Gabriel Reyes, who was Sin's personal secretary from 1974-1979. In 1981 he was appointed auxiliary bishop of manila. he later served as bishop of kalibo.
Archbishop Osvaldo Padilla, the nuncio to Korea, is the elder brother of Archbishop Francisco Padilla, nuncio to Papua New Guinea.
Bishop Florentino Cinense of Tarlac, is a nephew of Archbishop Emilio Cinense, former archbishop of San Fernando, Pampanga.
flesh_is_weak April 15th, 2009, 09:21 PM ^^nepotism in the church? :)
flesh_is_weak April 15th, 2009, 09:21 PM ^^nepotism in the church? :)
gee April 15th, 2009, 09:33 PM Cebuano (Arch)Bishops
Isabelo Abarquez, Bishop of Calbayog, 2007 -
Patricio Alo, Auxiliary Bishop of Davao, 1981-84; Bishop of Mati, 1984-
Emilio Bataclan, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1990-95; Bishop of Iligan, 1995-2004, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 2004-
Patricio Buzon SDB, Bishop of Kabankalan, Negros Occ., 2003-
Antonieto Cabajog, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1999-2001; Bishop of Surigao, 2001-*
Teofilo Camomot, Auxiliary Bishop of Jaro, Iloilo, 1955-58; Coadjutor archbishop of Cagayan d.o., 1958-70; died 1988
Jose Ma. Cuenco, Auxiliary Bishop of Jaro 1942-45; Bishop - Jaro, 1945-52; Archbishop - Jaro, 1952-1972; died: 1972
Jesus Dosado CM, Aux.Bishop-Cebu, 1977-79, Aux.Bishop-Cagayan d.O., 1979-81; Bishop-Ozamis, 1981-83; Arcb.-Ozamis, 1983-
John Du, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1998-2001; Bishop of Dumaguete, 2001-
Juan Gorordo, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1909-1910; Bishop of Cebu, 1910-1931; died: 1934
Sincero Lucero, Bishop of Borongan, 1977-79; Bishop of Calbayog, 1979-84; died: 1993
Jose Manguiran, Bishop of Dipolog, 1987- *
Christian Noel, Auxiliary Bishop of Cagayan de Oro, 1981-86; Bishop of Talibon, Bohol, 1986
Antonio Palang SVD, Bishop of San Jose, Occ. Mindoro, 2002-
Francisco Padilla, Nuncio to Papua New Guinea & Solomon Is., 2006
Osvaldo Padilla, Nuncio to Panama, 1991-94; Sri Lanka 1994-98; Nigeria 1998-2003; Costa Rica 2003-08; Korea 2008-
Jose Rojas, Bishop of Libmanan, Camarines Sur, 2008*
Manuel Salvador, Aux Bishop of Cebu, 1966-69; Bishop-Palo, leyte, 1969-72; Coadjutor Archb. - Cebu, 1973-1996, died: 1996
Bienvenido Tudtud, Auxiliary Bishop of Dumaguete, 1968; Bishop of Marawi, 1977-87: died 1987
Leopoldo Tumulak, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1987-92; Bishop of Tagbilaran, 1992-2005 ; Military Bishop, 2005-
Manuel Yap, Bishop of Capiz, 1951-52; Bishop of Bacolod, 1952-66; died: 1966
gee April 15th, 2009, 09:33 PM Cebuano (Arch)Bishops
Isabelo Abarquez, Bishop of Calbayog, 2007 -
Patricio Alo, Auxiliary Bishop of Davao, 1981-84; Bishop of Mati, 1984-
Emilio Bataclan, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1990-95; Bishop of Iligan, 1995-2004, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 2004-
Patricio Buzon SDB, Bishop of Kabankalan, Negros Occ., 2003-
Antonieto Cabajog, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1999-2001; Bishop of Surigao, 2001-*
Teofilo Camomot, Auxiliary Bishop of Jaro, Iloilo, 1955-58; Coadjutor archbishop of Cagayan d.o., 1958-70; died 1988
Jose Ma. Cuenco, Auxiliary Bishop of Jaro 1942-45; Bishop - Jaro, 1945-52; Archbishop - Jaro, 1952-1972; died: 1972
Jesus Dosado CM, Aux.Bishop-Cebu, 1977-79, Aux.Bishop-Cagayan d.O., 1979-81; Bishop-Ozamis, 1981-83; Arcb.-Ozamis, 1983-
John Du, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1998-2001; Bishop of Dumaguete, 2001-
Juan Gorordo, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1909-1910; Bishop of Cebu, 1910-1931; died: 1934
Sincero Lucero, Bishop of Borongan, 1977-79; Bishop of Calbayog, 1979-84; died: 1993
Jose Manguiran, Bishop of Dipolog, 1987- *
Christian Noel, Auxiliary Bishop of Cagayan de Oro, 1981-86; Bishop of Talibon, Bohol, 1986
Antonio Palang SVD, Bishop of San Jose, Occ. Mindoro, 2002-
Francisco Padilla, Nuncio to Papua New Guinea & Solomon Is., 2006
Osvaldo Padilla, Nuncio to Panama, 1991-94; Sri Lanka 1994-98; Nigeria 1998-2003; Costa Rica 2003-08; Korea 2008-
Jose Rojas, Bishop of Libmanan, Camarines Sur, 2008*
Manuel Salvador, Aux Bishop of Cebu, 1966-69; Bishop-Palo, leyte, 1969-72; Coadjutor Archb. - Cebu, 1973-1996, died: 1996
Bienvenido Tudtud, Auxiliary Bishop of Dumaguete, 1968; Bishop of Marawi, 1977-87: died 1987
Leopoldo Tumulak, Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu, 1987-92; Bishop of Tagbilaran, 1992-2005 ; Military Bishop, 2005-
Manuel Yap, Bishop of Capiz, 1951-52; Bishop of Bacolod, 1952-66; died: 1966
Ang_Bantayanon April 16th, 2009, 01:24 AM Great info Padre Gee. Thanks
Ang_Bantayanon April 16th, 2009, 01:24 AM Great info Padre Gee. Thanks
archaeologue April 16th, 2009, 01:59 AM Thanks so much. I am really interested with the architecture and history of the Capitol building. :)
Can we browse the original book displayed at Museo Sugbo or is it glass-encased?
Archt. Melva Rodriguez_Java is currently writing the history of the capitol. This will hopefully bre pubnlished early next year as part of the 54-volume Provincial History Writing project. You wait na lang for thagt or the scans I will make soon kay the blue book is glass-encased.
archaeologue April 16th, 2009, 01:59 AM Thanks so much. I am really interested with the architecture and history of the Capitol building. :)
Can we browse the original book displayed at Museo Sugbo or is it glass-encased?
Archt. Melva Rodriguez_Java is currently writing the history of the capitol. This will hopefully bre pubnlished early next year as part of the 54-volume Provincial History Writing project. You wait na lang for thagt or the scans I will make soon kay the blue book is glass-encased.
harveharve April 16th, 2009, 04:34 AM Archt. Melva Rodriguez_Java is currently writing the history of the capitol. This will hopefully bre pubnlished early next year as part of the 54-volume Provincial History Writing project. You wait na lang for thagt or the scans I will make soon kay the blue book is glass-encased.
I remember reading from Col. Segura's book Tabunan that a truck was parked underneath the Capitol laden with banknotes and coins while some which could not be accommodated inside were burned somewhere where the Palace of Justice now stands. I forgot who the governor was when tunnels were found at the Capitol which they had to close in fear that it was boobytrapped with bombs.
harveharve April 16th, 2009, 04:34 AM Archt. Melva Rodriguez_Java is currently writing the history of the capitol. This will hopefully bre pubnlished early next year as part of the 54-volume Provincial History Writing project. You wait na lang for thagt or the scans I will make soon kay the blue book is glass-encased.
I remember reading from Col. Segura's book Tabunan that a truck was parked underneath the Capitol laden with banknotes and coins while some which could not be accommodated inside were burned somewhere where the Palace of Justice now stands. I forgot who the governor was when tunnels were found at the Capitol which they had to close in fear that it was boobytrapped with bombs.
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