Cebú Heritage Watch [Archive] - Page 50

maayomo

July 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM

the facade will certainly survive the fire.

the owner was already given a hint last year about making this building into some kind of a museum of the arts or movies....

i think the response was lukewarm a la "can you afford to rent the place?"

paet.

ironically, i was interviewed by a GMA 7 staffer from Manila about the Cebu movie industry and its golden years in the 50s and 60s, and what would be a good heritage structure to house it, i asked the interviewer to come to CEbu and get footages of Vision Theater.

that was the other day. now, she will have nothing but the facade and the shell...oh well, basin mabarato na ang pagbaligya ana...not the P150 million tag price...or so i heard.

Sir, syaro di pa mabuka iyang mata ani. Pre-WWII nga building with a great facade, nya gihimo lang ug baligyaanan ug pirated nga DVD ug makeshift nga puluy-anan? Tsk, tsk. I hope the owner realizes nga puwede magstart balik ug clean slate ang building, and use it for a more noble purpose.

maayomo

July 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM

AmbutLang

July 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM

Wala mana madamage ang facade sa building, ipabilin na siya unya maghimo siya bagong building piro imerge ang frontage sa design.

AmbutLang

July 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM

Wala mana madamage ang facade sa building, ipabilin na siya unya maghimo siya bagong building piro imerge ang frontage sa design.

gee

July 24th, 2009, 08:59 PM

Fire guts historical landmark along Colon; damage set at P2M

AN old theater that used to be a hotel in the 1920’s was gutted by a fire that hit the building past 1 p.m. yesterday.

It took the Cebu City Fire Station and other volunteers more than two hours to control the blaze, which was contained within the neo-classical, pre-war structure.

The old Vision Theater along Colon St., which now holds stalls selling pirated video and audio discs on the ground floor, sits right next to other buildings, but the fire failed to spread to the neighboring structures.

Investigators pegged the damage at P2 million, with the ground floor razed and the top two floors damaged by fire, smoke and water.

Parts of Colon St. and Osmeña Blvd. were closed to traffic to allow fire trucks to arrive at the area and move out to fill up their tanks with water.

Nearly eight decades ago, the Vision Theater, then operated by John Gokongwei Sr., was known as the only air-conditioned movie house outside Luzon.

According to The Heritage of Cebu website, the building was originally built as a hotel. An Italian artist, Dante Guidetti, reportedly designed the sculptures in its facade.

Today, the top floors are used as living quarters of some stall holders in the ground floor. The front part of the building is leased to a ticketing office, a salon and a
pawnshop.

The ground floor interiors are a maze of stalls selling pirated DVD and audio discs, cellular phones, watches and appliances.

As the fire grew, some occupants went out through the windows of the second floor.

Building owners Wendell Yulo and Consuela Yulo Que were at the scene.

Yulo, when approached by reporters, denied reports that tenants of the building were being ejected, saying they had no complaints against their tenants because they always paid the rent on time.

Firefighters had difficulty putting out the fire, citing the lack of ventilation inside the building.

Senior Supt. Aloveel Ferrer, regional director of the Bureau of Fire Protection (BFP) 7, said it was also dark inside and the thick smoke made it hard for his men to make their way around the building.

He also noted that it was easy for the fire to spread quickly because the interiors were made of light materials.

The call for assistance was received at 1:12 p.m. It took firefighters until 3:30 p.m. to control the flames.

“Too hot”

But as of press time, they were unable to reach the origin of the fire as flames kept rekindling.

Chief Insp. Virginia Toledo, chief of operations of the Cebu City Fire Station, told reporters that it was too hot to send in fire fighters.

She declared the blaze under Task Force Alpha at 3:15 p.m., the level after a third alarm. This meant that all available trucks in Cebu City and trucks assigned to stations near Cebu City needed to respond.

There were at least 15 fire trucks that responded to the area, including those of volunteer organizations such as the Emergency Rescue Unit Foundation (Eruf), Cebu Filipino-Chinese Volunteer Fire Brigade and the Sto. Niño Volunteer Fire Brigade.

The thick smoke led them to bring out sets of breathing apparatus, but the heat made it hard for them to go deeper into the building.

Toledo said they did not receive reports that anyone was trapped or wounded in the fire.

But just to make sure, the fire station sent a truck with a lighting tower last night so they could see inside the building and check rumors that had circulated outside the fire scene.

Closed

Toledo and case investigator SFO1 Ali Kaseem Espinola said they could not trace the exact location of the fire’s origin as they were unable to enter the building.

Espinola also could not say what caused the fire, although there were reports that an eatery may have started the fire.

Yulo though, does not believe this because the eatery does not do its cooking there.

However, other reports surfaced that the fire began in one of the stalls or was caused by an electrical short circuit.

Other nearby establishments also closed shop. These were stalls at the Market Center, Cebu Appliance Center, a bank, a fastfood outlet, a pharmacy and a salon.

Last night, a fire truck remained on standby to make sure there flames did not rekindle. (MEA)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/fire-guts-historical-landmark-along-colon-damage-set-p2m

gee

July 24th, 2009, 08:59 PM

naruto-kun

July 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM

naruto-kun

July 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 12:59 PM

Sir, syaro di pa mabuka iyang mata ani. Pre-WWII nga building with a great facade, nya gihimo lang ug baligyaanan ug pirated nga DVD ug makeshift nga puluy-anan? Tsk, tsk. I hope the owner realizes nga puwede magstart balik ug clean slate ang building, and use it for a more noble purpose.

chinese bya ang tag-iya...unya, inherited ra gyud niya...so wa gyud siya'y concept nga mapahimuslan for heritage---negosyo gyud dayon! paet :bash:

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 12:59 PM

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Its sad news to know the destruction of another heritage building.

anyways, Does anybody know the history of Arch. Bishop Reyes Ave. ? I've been searching everywhere for it. The Brgy. Luz & Camputhaw Barangay HALL, the rizal library and the archives seem to have no official history of the avenue. Can anyone help me? Its for my Local History Project...

i think this used to be called the Old Banilad Road..because it traversed the Banilad Friar Lands which were broken up during the American period.

my guess is that this must have started as a carriage road or carabao road during the Spanish period, used for conveying sugar and rice harvested from the Banilad Firar Lands. therefore it would have been unnamed except for its place, thus it woud have been named "dalan sa Banilad", later in the American period, it became "Banilad Road", and then after the war, karaan na man, it became "Old Banilad Road'. speculations ra hinuon ni nako. but that is how the Minoza Street, which now traverses Talamban used to be called ("Old Talamban Road").

Arch. Reyes Avenue is on the main artery within what used to be the Augustinian-owned Banilad Friar Lands (which used to cover both sides of that road, from Ayala Center down to Nasipit, Talamban, if I'm not mistaken).

there is also as section of the Old Banilad Road which was called "Airport Road" and then later, "Old Airport Road" because it was beside the Lahug Airport (Waterfront Hotel down to the Ayala IT Park), which, before 1968, was the main airport of Cebu.

this would explain why there is no former name to Arch. Reyes Avenue---it simply was not named after a person before this.

you should try looking at pre-war Cebu maps. i am sure this road is there alone and lonely and out of nowhere.

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Jarenz

July 25th, 2009, 01:22 PM

ABS-CBN Cebu MagTV

features ==> "Revisiting Old Cebu"

July 26, 2009 - 10:45am (Ch.3)

Jarenz

July 25th, 2009, 01:22 PM

ABS-CBN Cebu MagTV

features ==> "Revisiting Old Cebu"

July 26, 2009 - 10:45am (Ch.3)

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:09 PM

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:09 PM

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 03:14 PM

^^^^

wa ka mahadlok? murag asbestos-laden ra ba tingali ni iya ceiling, typical sa 1950s to 60s nga renovation sa movie houses.

but if the ceiling got burned, then i'm sure dili na asbestos.

thanks for these photos.

just as i thought, the building will survive as it did when Colon (and most of downtown Cebu) was set on fire by local authorities when it was clear that the Japanese would invade in April 1942:

Here is a small view of Vision theater after the WW II conflgration. Only Vision theater (shown here near the center of this photo) and the facade of Lyric theater (at the corner of Junquera) remain standing on Colon Street.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/cebushowingcolonandvisiontheater194.jpg

it survived that fire, it will survive this latest one.

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 03:14 PM

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:22 PM

ngee, mao ba, Sir @archaeologue? ako gikahadlokan ganina kay holdup, kay mga 7am man ko adto, nya abi nako mingaw pa ba, madiskwido nya ang dslr. hehe. : )

but anyways, sir, i think nag-collapse ang ceiling niya. naklaro pa hinuon nako ang atup mismo when i got to the main hall. naa nay mga buslot-buslot ang atup. dramatic gani kaayo, naay tiny shafts of light nag-filter down, or imagination lang ba kaha to nako. hehe.

sir, kanang last line sa imong post ba, nakakataba ng puso jud. : )

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:22 PM

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 03:31 PM

ngee, mao ba, Sir? ako gikahadlokan ganina kay holdup, kay mga 7am man ko adto, nya abi nako mingaw pa ba, madiskwido nya ang dslr. hehe. : )

but anyways, sir, i think nag-collapse ang ceiling niya. naklaro pa hinuon nako ang atup mismo when i got to the main hall. naa nay mga buslot-buslot ang atup. thanks for the info anyway, Sir. : )

aw, ok...you were lucky this time.

in conservation work, risk management due to fire is important.

the first thing to determine is whether the structure underwent renovation, and if so, what were added. in the case of a moviehouse like Vision Theater, there used to be so much asbestos on movie houses man gud as a fire prevention measure in the 1930s to 70s---or until when it was discovered that asbestos was directly linked to lung cancer.

maybe gimahalan ang mga insik nga mga tag-iya so wa sila mobutang, or they followed regulations to remove the asbestos in the 1990s.

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 03:31 PM

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:56 PM

aw, ok...you were lucky this time.

in conservation work, risk management due to fire is important.

the first thing to determine is whether the structure underwent renovation, and if so, what were added. in the case of a moviehouse like Vision Theater, there used to be so much asbestos on movie houses man gud as a fire prevention measure in the 1930s to 70s---or until when it was discovered that asbestos was directly linked to lung cancer.

maybe gimahalan ang mga insik nga mga tag-iya so wa sila mobutang, or they followed regulations to remove the asbestos in the 1990s.

hehehehe. free lesson in conservation work ni Sir, da. important lesson pa jud. daghang salamat. i'll be more careful next time. : )

funny lagi ni imong tongue-in-cheek comments about sa mga, uhm...hehe. ikatawa nalang ta ni. haha. : )

maayomo

July 25th, 2009, 03:56 PM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Nasunog ang VISION THEATER.

At the risk of revealing my age to the whole heritage community, I still would like to share memories of Vision Theatre. When I was in college in the late 60's, I'd save up to watch movies in Colon. It was such a short walk( everybody walked) from USC down Pelaez St. to go to Vision Theatre. We'd always go to Vision because it showed the best American movies then. If we had some money left we'd cross Pelaez and go further after the movie house in the corner. The first Sunburst opened there and it was where one can get real brewed coffee for one peso.

Across Sunburst was the old Majestic Restaurant where one could get a bonafide "Comida China"! That was the treat of all treats for a college student on a severe budget.

In the corner of Pelaez across the street was another moviehouse, the Oriente. It's wide staircase leading to the balcony looked so grand. To the right of Oriente was the UMERCO, the swankiest department store then. Even White Gold was a probinsyano beside UMERCO or United Merchants which was owned by the Mercados.

But between Vision Theatre and Oriente, my favorite was Vision Theatre. The facade always mesmerized me. It was then a safe place. Colon was a safe place to shop in and eat in during the tail end of the sixties.

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM

bukid

July 25th, 2009, 07:08 PM

^^ when you mentioned sunburst, i remembered spanky's. it is also somewhere near vision theatre, i wonder where is it now?

bukid

July 25th, 2009, 07:08 PM

^^ when you mentioned sunburst, i remembered spanky's. it is also somewhere near vision theatre, i wonder where is it now?

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM

hehehehe. free lesson in conservation work ni Sir, da. important lesson pa jud. daghang salamat. i'll be more careful next time. : )

funny lagi ni imong tongue-in-cheek comments about sa mga, uhm...hehe. ikatawa nalang ta ni. haha. : )

ur welcome....

as to the insik, i kind of live in that world most of the time... and i studied in a chinese school. all my nephews and nieces are studying or have studied at sacred heart, my brothers and my only sister are married also to chinese men or women, as the case may be.

and i love everything chinese except ang pagkakuripot sa ako mga paryenteng intsik....

archaeologue

July 25th, 2009, 08:46 PM

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 01:17 AM

^^ when you mentioned sunburst, i remembered spanky's. it is also somewhere near vision theatre, i wonder where is it now?

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change...

ur welcome....

as to the insik, i kind of live in that world most of the time... and i studied in a chinese school. all my nephews and nieces are studying or have studied at sacred heart, my brothers and my only sister are married also to chinese men or women, as the case may be.

and i love everything chinese except ang pagkakuripot sa ako mga paryenteng intsik....

ay, mao diay Sir. hehehe. in a way, loveable man ni ilang pagkakuripot, or at least ang stereotyped image of a kuripot chinese, but maayo sad pud unta if mugasto sila when and where it matters most, not only sa business. : )

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 01:17 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 26th, 2009, 03:02 AM

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change...

ay, mao diay Sir. hehehe. in a way, loveable man ni ilang pagkakuripot, or at least ang stereotyped image of a kuripot chinese, but maayo sad pud unta if mugasto sila when and where it matters most, not only sa business. : )

Some of them get enlightened , take the case of the owners of Hotong Hardware. They have transferred their stock from the bodega in Zulueta to their reclamation bodega. Now the Jesuit House entombed in that huge bodega is being cleaned and they have even opened the place to visitors now.

This is something to be g;ad, nay, ecstatic about! Another heritage site exposed for the public to appreciate.

There is hope, Maayomo! Or at least we could appreciate the crumbs given. . .:banana:^^

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 26th, 2009, 03:02 AM

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Some of them get enlightened , take the case of the owners of Hotong Hardware. They have transferred their stock from the bodega in Zulueta to their reclamation bodega. Now the Jesuit House entombed in that huge bodega is being cleaned and they have even opened the place to visitors now.

This is something to be g;ad, nay, ecstatic about! Another heritage site exposed for the public to appreciate.

There is hope, Maayomo! Or at least we could appreciate the crumbs given. . .:banana:^^

Ay, open na jud diay, as in? I thought man gud nga by appointment lang usa ang pagvisit sa Jesuit house, although I read somewhere that they were planning to eventually turn it into some sort of museum. Pero, very good news kaayo ni, Ma'am. : )

I'm sure all of us are also hoping that the Yulo family will do the same for their, uhm, 200 million-peso building. Kay naabtan nalang ug kasunog ilang building, maski crumbs wala juy nahatag. Gipintalan hinuon ug yellow ang ubos. Maayo gani wala mahurot kasunog, or else, abo nalang juy ato. Hehe. : )

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 04:14 AM

naruto-kun

July 26th, 2009, 05:00 AM

i think this used to be called the Old Banilad Road..because it traversed the Banilad Friar Lands which were broken up during the American period.

my guess is that this must have started as a carriage road or carabao road during the Spanish period, used for conveying sugar and rice harvested from the Banilad Firar Lands. therefore it would have been unnamed except for its place, thus it woud have been named "dalan sa Banilad", later in the American period, it became "Banilad Road", and then after the war, karaan na man, it became "Old Banilad Road'. speculations ra hinuon ni nako. but that is how the Minoza Street, which now traverses Talamban used to be called ("Old Talamban Road").

Arch. Reyes Avenue is on the main artery within what used to be the Augustinian-owned Banilad Friar Lands (which used to cover both sides of that road, from Ayala Center down to Nasipit, Talamban, if I'm not mistaken).

there is also as section of the Old Banilad Road which was called "Airport Road" and then later, "Old Airport Road" because it was beside the Lahug Airport (Waterfront Hotel down to the Ayala IT Park), which, before 1968, was the main airport of Cebu.

this would explain why there is no former name to Arch. Reyes Avenue---it simply was not named after a person before this.

you should try looking at pre-war Cebu maps. i am sure this road is there alone and lonely and out of nowhere.

thanks archaeologue :) :), at least, i have a history to write on... :banana::banana:

naruto-kun

July 26th, 2009, 05:00 AM

josephbrain

July 26th, 2009, 09:49 AM

hi guys, im a lil bit new here..

im now a 5th year architecture student at usc. and im planning to revive colon street as my thesis proposal for this semester.
actually its entitled " revitalization of the oldest street in cebu city"

we are focusing on the physical redevelopment addressing the social and economic activity..

so i need some brief history and and some old pictures of colon..
right now were trying to contact some employee from city hall..

if anyone has the latest redevelopment for colon, just post it here..hehe

thank you and god bless!

contact me: josephbrain_000@yahoo.com

josephbrain

July 26th, 2009, 09:49 AM

archaeologue

July 26th, 2009, 11:02 AM

^^ ^^

i should have said "a lonely road going nowhere" like this one below. taken sometime in 1915, it looks intriguing like the road to Banilad.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/banilad.jpg
(From the Pedro River-Mir collection now owned by Enrico Rubio of Bantayan)

No mountains in the horizon to indicate Lahug, and none on the sides either (to indicate the old South Road going to Talisay). Maybe this is the corner where LBC Bank and Asilo dela Milagrosa Church are right now! who knows? hahah

My honest guess is that this must be Arch. Reyes, then called Banilad Road in 1915 because along with this photo are four others, all roads (F. Ramos street, with only one house; Fuente Osmena with just Don Sergio's house on the side; and Mango Avenue with the old Ludo House)...I can't show them here without permission, though.

archaeologue

July 26th, 2009, 11:02 AM

sanvalente

July 26th, 2009, 12:56 PM

Ay, open na jud diay, as in? I thought man gud nga by appointment lang usa ang pagvisit sa Jesuit house, although I read somewhere that they were planning to eventually turn it into some sort of museum. Pero, very good news kaayo ni, Ma'am. : )

bilib sad ko nimo, maayomo, how come nag "ma'am" ka ni karaang tawo? kaila
na tingali mo daan no? abi nako "sir" ni si karaang tawo he he he

bitaw, it's unfortunate nasunog ang vision theater .... karaang tawo reminded
me too when i was in college at usc.. . bugnaw ang aircon para mag date...

i remember my father told me that it has the best acoustic design kuno and i guess it's true during my time in college kay wa pay laing sinihan besides sa colon area...

reminiscing those days makes me feel young tho...

sanvalente

July 26th, 2009, 12:56 PM

sanvalente

July 26th, 2009, 01:03 PM

^^ ^^

i should have said "a lonely road going nowhere" like this one below. taken sometime in 1915, it looks intriguing like the road to Banilad.

.....

No mountains in the horizon to indicate Lahug, and none on the sides either (to indicate the old South Road going to Talisay). Maybe this is the corner where LBC Bank and Asilo dela Milagrosa Church are right now! who knows? hahah

My honest guess is that this must be Arch. Reyes, then called Banilad Road in 1915 because along with this photo are four others, all roads (F. Ramos street, with only one house; Fuente Osmena with just Don Sergio's house on the side; and Mango Avenue with the old Ludo House)...I can't show them here without permission, though.

Beautiful pic! indeed circa 1915 (+/-) (model T?) considering the spoked wheel of the car ... pa tan-awa unya mi sa other photos you mentioned ha...

am curious kinsa tong mga tag-iya sa mga sakyanan kaniadtong panahuna
like this one...

sanvalente

July 26th, 2009, 01:03 PM

archaeologue

July 26th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Beautiful pic! indeed circa 1915 (+/-) (model T?) considering the spoked wheel of the car ... pa tan-awa unya mi sa other photos you mentioned ha...

am curious kinsa tong mga tag-iya sa mga sakyanan kaniadtong panahuna
like this one...

Caloy,

you saw the pics when i brought them to Cathedral Museum during one of our long weekend meetings for the Balaanong Bahandi book. Remember sangkatutak nga old photos I brought?

I think ang tig-baligya sa cars ani nga time si Don Mamerto Escano (or maybe tig-retarto ra? hahaah)

Here is a photo of Model-T's he took that is posted at the Bisayabulletin.com sa U.S.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/TFordFleetA.jpg

murag mga taxi man tingali ni or trucks for hire...

archaeologue

July 26th, 2009, 01:57 PM

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 03:10 PM

bilib sad ko nimo, maayomo, how come nag "ma'am" ka ni karaang tawo? kaila
na tingali mo daan no? abi nako "sir" ni si karaang tawo he he he

Uhm, during the Gabii sa Kabilin, an SSC forumer sort of showed me the real identities behind the avatars, and if I'm not mistaken, he was pointing to an elegant- and sophisticated-looking lady when he said "Mao na si Karaang Tawo." Just in case nasayop ko, sorry jud kaayo. Hehe. Anyways, I'm just used to calling poeple Sir or Ma'am. : )

By the way, nakakita mo sa MagTV ganina? They featured downtown Cebu. Starring kaayo si KaBino, nagdala ug yellow nga flag. : )

maayomo

July 26th, 2009, 03:10 PM

le Reine

July 26th, 2009, 03:45 PM

Reminder: This thread is not the Cebuano thread (despite the fact that this is about Cebuano heritage) so may I request everyone to talk in English? This is outside the regional forums. Thank you.

le Reine

July 26th, 2009, 03:45 PM

Reminder: This thread is not the Cebuano thread (despite the fact that this is about Cebuano heritage) so may I request everyone to talk in English? This is outside the regional forums. Thank you.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 26th, 2009, 04:27 PM

guys please use english or else provide translations. show them we're GOOD in english! :okay:

samok kaayo!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 26th, 2009, 04:27 PM

guys please use english or else provide translations. show them we're GOOD in english! :okay:

samok kaayo!

bakasaurus

July 26th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Lovely discussion here people. Keep it up!
I am learning a lot just by reading through the posts. The old Cebu photos gives me a goosebumpy feeling. It helps me picture out the world in the time and place of my grandparents' youth. Makes me want to scan every old photo from my lola's album if only I'm there now.

@Mainstream
Bai kalma lang hehehe. Although nindot kaayo paminawn og basahon ang Binisaya nga conversations, it is perhaps okay to give in since there may be other people who are also interested, which is a great thing.

bakasaurus

July 26th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Taga Bogo

July 26th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change.

Spanky's, I think there used to be one in Fuente, another near the cathedral, and another infront of San Miguel Corp. They closed dhop around late 60s or early 90s.

bai maayomo get a Sunburst chicken and fried rice, they taste just the same. Spanky's was "born" after Sunburst first openned shop and stayed on for some years after sunburst closed their then cebu operations. Later sunburst made a comeback.

Taga Bogo

July 26th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change.

Spanky's, I think there used to be one in Fuente, another near the cathedral, and another infront of San Miguel Corp. They closed dhop around late 60s or early 90s.

bai maayomo get a Sunburst chicken and fried rice, they taste just the same. Spanky's was "born" after Sunburst first openned shop and stayed on for some years after sunburst closed their then cebu operations. Later sunburst made a comeback.

Jarenz

July 26th, 2009, 06:50 PM

Poll for Name of Organization for SSC-Cebu

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Jarenz

July 26th, 2009, 06:50 PM

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Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:29 AM

:)Uhm, during the Gabii sa Kabilin, an SSC forumer sort of showed me the real identities behind the avatars, and if I'm not mistaken, he was pointing to an elegant- and sophisticated-looking lady when he said "Mao na si Karaang Tawo." Just in case nasayop ko, sorry jud kaayo. Hehe. Anyways, I'm just used to calling poeple Sir or Ma'am. : )

By the way, nakakita mo sa MagTV ganina? They featured downtown Cebu. Starring kaayo si KaBino, nagdala ug yellow nga flag. : )

Thank you Maayomo for the kind description. It warms this old soul's heart more than you will ever know! But I kind of liked the anonimity offered by the use of the nom de plume in SSC.

Don't mind Sanvalente, he's only ragging you! he he he

If you noticed somebody all in black showing off the items inside the chapel of the Cathedral Museum of Cebu in that ABS-CBN feature of the old part of Cebu, that was also me. :)

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:29 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:31 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:31 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:37 AM

(Posted this originally sa Cebu City and Province Thread)

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Nakasingit jud ko ganina sayo sa buntag panguha ug photos sa nasunog. Share lang nako.

The entrance to the Orchestra Section
http://i26.tinypic.com/1zdteut.jpg

The stairs to the main hall
http://i32.tinypic.com/2rcbrm0.jpg

The orchestra section, all covered in smoke
http://i25.tinypic.com/9h3lh2.jpg

The ground floor which used to be a den of pirated DVDs. I tried to move deeper into where the supposed origin of the fire is, but the water was knee-deep, and I still had to report for work after.
http://i28.tinypic.com/2w7lv03.jpg

The building's tenants, smile lang gihapun
http://i27.tinypic.com/2ly028i.jpg

The facade, which thankfully survived
http://i29.tinypic.com/2ptbgbp.jpg

Seems like the building rebelled against its present state. I don't intend to offend the residents and tenants of the building, but "mirisi" sa mga owners.

The sight of the stairs leading to the balcony makes me very sad. I never did get to go to the balcony. My student allowance could only afford me the orchestra section.

I got married soon after college and never did get to go inside Vision Theatre again. The saddest thing on earth is the thought that one can never turn back the clock to experience something you failed to do in the past. Now the chance is totally erased.

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:37 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:41 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:41 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:45 AM

bilib sad ko nimo, maayomo, how come nag "ma'am" ka ni karaang tawo? kaila
na tingali mo daan no? abi nako "sir" ni si karaang tawo he he he

bitaw, it's unfortunate nasunog ang vision theater .... karaang tawo reminded
me too when i was in college at usc.. . bugnaw ang aircon para mag date...

i remember my father told me that it has the best acoustic design kuno and i guess it's true during my time in college kay wa pay laing sinihan besides sa colon area...

reminiscing those days makes me feel young tho...

Maybe we should start a campaign to have Vision Theatre used for heritage purposes. Look at the Jesuit house, repeated appeals to Jimmy Sy resulted in his cleaning up of the bodega and actually opening up the place for some visitors now even if he says they will only be ready in 2 years yet.

Hope springs eternal in the heart of this old soul!

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:45 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:50 AM

naay picture kung giunsa pagpapilit ani sa kisame?

This altar is very cluttered. I wonder how one can commune with the Lord with all those unrelated details? Fuera gaba intawn! But I must say that it is quite charming from the point of view of kitch.

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:50 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:51 AM

Hala, Naka sala ko ganiha kay DYSS akong napaminawan....hehe
Pero wa to tuyua, amo man gud naka set daan sa radyo:D

ha ha ha syarap. Mark!

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:51 AM

Hala, Naka sala ko ganiha kay DYSS akong napaminawan....hehe
Pero wa to tuyua, amo man gud naka set daan sa radyo:D

ha ha ha syarap. Mark!

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:56 AM

^^
Kinahanglan man gyud ang mga cura ug ang pastoral council nga naay "mark" ikabilin sa ilang mga simbahan, bisag ngil-ad basta naa lang gyuy mark, hilabina kon gi-cefrahan ug "donated by:" o di kaha, "a project by XXX parish pastoral council 200x-200x" o "through the efforts of".

arang arang nalang nang ilang out of place nga scoreboard kay pwede pa matangtang... ang ubang karaang parokya intawn, ang ilang simbahan gyuy gitangtang! Gi-frankenstein ug maayo.

Kay nindot man pintalan ug GOLD ug ilisan ug Mariwasa tiles ang marble tiles. :bash: hangtod nga dili nalang nimo intawn ma-ilhan ang simbahan inig usab nimog balik:bash:

Sadly, you are so right, Harve. Look at the American gothic Mabolo church. Now its architecture undecipherable. And the priest who did that has been transferred to another church - to destroy?!

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:56 AM

maayomo

July 27th, 2009, 08:54 AM

:)

Thank you Maayomo for the kind description. It warms this old soul's heart more than you will ever know! But I kind of liked the anonimity offered by the use of the nom de plume in SSC.

Don't mind Sanvalente, he's only ragging you! he he he

If you noticed somebody all in black showing off the items inside the chapel of the Cathedral Museum of Cebu in that ABS-CBN feature of the old part of Cebu, that was also me. :)

Ah, that was you? Then I can confirm now, my description was very accurate. Hehe. : )

Maybe we should start a campaign to have Vision Theatre used for heritage purposes. Look at the Jesuit house, repeated appeals to Jimmy Sy resulted in his cleaning up of the bodega and actually opening up the place for some visitors now even if he says they will only be ready in 2 years yet.

Hope springs eternal in the heart of this old soul!

If I had the network, the clout and the resources to initiate such an undertaking, I would've done it na. My problem is, I don't have the aforementioned stuff. @Karaang Tawo, if ever such movement will be started by you or someone you know, and you happen to have space in your group for a naive guy like me who just wants to help, please lemme know. : )

maayomo

July 27th, 2009, 08:54 AM

Ka_Bino

July 27th, 2009, 09:54 AM

ang panagsukliay namo ug mga panahom sa among kaugalingon, dunay mga panghinaot nga di lang ang among kasugiran ang inyong maalingatan, lakip na ang kanindot sa mga polong nga among gigamit.

in our exchange of our views, it entails an aspiration that not only our story are notice but the beauty of the word we used...

Ka_Bino

July 27th, 2009, 09:54 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 27th, 2009, 09:56 AM

^^

AMEN TO THAT! :master::master:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 27th, 2009, 09:56 AM

^^

AMEN TO THAT! :master::master:

Ka_Bino

July 27th, 2009, 10:06 AM

Ka_Bino

July 27th, 2009, 10:06 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 11:34 AM

to all the balaanong bahandi people, me and my friend have a gift to you...

were almost done editing the footage we took during the book's pre selling..

some color adjustment and dvd burning...

and you get the copy in a weeks time

Salamat Bino! I can hardly wait - you know very well we can't afford the luxury of a video footage of that event. Please relay our thanks to your friend.

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 11:34 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 11:35 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 11:35 AM

naruto-kun

July 27th, 2009, 01:27 PM

naruto-kun

July 27th, 2009, 01:27 PM

archaeologue

July 27th, 2009, 01:36 PM

archaeologue

July 27th, 2009, 01:36 PM

archaeologue

July 27th, 2009, 01:38 PM

The sight of the stairs leading to the balcony makes me very sad. I never did get to go to the balcony. My student allowance could only afford me the orchestra section.

I got married soon after college and never did get to go inside Vision Theatre again. The saddest thing on earth is the thought that one can never turn back the clock to experience something you failed to do in the past. Now the chance is totally erased.

I was able to enter the balcony some four years ago before it was converted into a billiard hall, i think. the screen curtains were still there.

archaeologue

July 27th, 2009, 01:38 PM

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:38 PM

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:38 PM

gee

July 27th, 2009, 02:40 PM

:banana: Yes, thanks for the picture :banana: my project may be credible enough

i went to the Cathedral Museum but the nuns told they do not have anything about Arch. bishop Reyes Ave. :eek2: not even photos :ohno:
Anyways THanks VEry Much!!!!!

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH394.jpg

Arrival in Cebu of the Most Excellent postolic [Apostolic] Delegate and auxiliary Bishops and the Committee in the Canonical errection [erection] of the Diocese of Cebu to an Archdiocese and the installation of Archbishiop Gabriel M. Reyes as the first archbishiop of Cebu. In the photo may be seen Archbishop Guillermor Piani, postolic [Apostolic] Delegate to the Philippines; Archbishio Thomas Agustin Hendrick; Msgr. Jose Ma. Cuenco, Vicar General of Cebu; overnor [Governor] Sotero Cabahug. taken on November 8, 1934.

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH144.jpg

Archbishop Gabriel Reyes prepares to disembark on his arrival in Cebu on Oct. 20, 1934, as Archbishop of Cebu. Also in photo are Mons. [Monsignor] Jose Ma. [Jose Maria] Cuenco and Hon. Sotero B. Cabahug.

source: http://sea.lib.niu.edu

gee

July 27th, 2009, 02:40 PM

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:50 PM

Caloy,

you saw the pics when i brought them to Cathedral Museum during one of our long weekend meetings for the Balaanong Bahandi book. Remember sangkatutak nga old photos I brought?

I think ang tig-baligya sa cars ani nga time si Don Mamerto Escano (or maybe tig-retarto ra? hahaah)

Here is a photo of Model-T's he took that is posted at the Bisayabulletin.com sa U.

murag mga taxi man tingali ni or trucks for hire...

I must have missed that.... if the model t ford was produced between 1908 to 1927 then this guy Don Mamerto must be that rich! or maybe he is also the
dealer in cebu too.

They used to own the Escano Shipping Lines, I think the property in
Colon belongs to his heirs, that portion which used to be the gazini Plaza
in front of gaw trading before it was gutted by fire in the late 80s.

I know a guy who's looking for it, he is a collector of old automobiles. I showed him your photo this morning and i can see his eyes almost went
out of the sockets, but i told him it's quite hard to trace these cars now...

but who knows, one of these days we can locate one of them, maybe
inside those old bodegas in the city ... if we can somehow get one of
those then it would be very nice to put it in the Museo Sugbo!

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:50 PM

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Reminder: This thread is not the Cebuano thread (despite the fact that this is about Cebuano heritage) so may I request everyone to talk in English? This is outside the regional forums. Thank you.

ooopppss , thanks for the reminder. usahay man gud ma dala man ta sa atong
gibati (sometimes we get carried by what we feel)....

sanvalente

July 27th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:36 PM

^^ ^^

Ur welcome.

The Cathedral Museum is obviously the wrong place to go since the naming of the street had nothing to do with the church...you should try the Rizal Memorial Library and Museum. Good luck!

It must have come from something I said about the very ecclesiastical feel of the corner of Archbishop Reyes Ave and Cardinal Rosales Ave in Ayala. I always remind the students who listen to my "monologue" (orientation?) in the Cathedral Museum.

The city should bolster the meager information to be gleaned from the City library.

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 27th, 2009, 03:36 PM

maayomo

July 27th, 2009, 06:09 PM

Here are some photos of the interior of Vision Theatre which I and my cousin took last summer. Luckily, nakaabot pa jud mi before siya nasunog.

The front area where the screen used to be
http://i26.tinypic.com/900zux.jpg

A view from the balcony area
http://i29.tinypic.com/2zrhteo.jpg

Posing by one of the windows in the balcony section
http://i27.tinypic.com/2hqh6b8.jpg

Souvenir shot!!! : )
http://i30.tinypic.com/fu9iyw.jpg

I posted these photos sa Cebu City and Province Thread. I just thought it would be nice to post them here, too. Share lang ko. : )

maayomo

July 27th, 2009, 06:09 PM

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 02:29 AM

I must have missed that.... if the model t ford was produced between 1908 to 1927 then this guy Don Mamerto must be that rich! or maybe he is also the
dealer in cebu too.

They used to own the Escano Shipping Lines, I think the property in
Colon belongs to his heirs, that portion which used to be the gazini Plaza
in front of gaw trading before it was gutted by fire in the late 80s.

I know a guy who's looking for it, he is a collector of old automobiles. I showed him your photo this morning and i can see his eyes almost went
out of the sockets, but i told him it's quite hard to trace these cars now...

but who knows, one of these days we can locate one of them, maybe
inside those old bodegas in the city ... if we can somehow get one of
those then it would be very nice to put it in the Museo Sugbo!

The wealth of Don Gil Garcia and his heirs come from the Escanos of Malitbog, where Don Mamerto's parents began their awesome wealth. Don Gil merely married a daughter of Don Fernando and Dona Agustina Escano. But Don Gil is also credited with increasing the Escano wealth a million times over, especially through VECO.

The Gazini Plaza is exactly where the house of Don Mamerto was once located.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/escanohousejunqueracorcolon.jpg

I believe this house faced Colon Street. A movie house called Lyric was also built near the spot before the war, when Don Mamerto moved to the uptown area.

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 02:29 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 28th, 2009, 09:59 AM

The wealth of Don Gil Garcia and his heirs come from the Escanos of Malitbog, where Don Mamerto's parents began their awesome wealth. Don Gil merely married a daughter of Don Fernando and Dona Agustina Escano. But Don Gil is also credited with increasing the Escano wealth a million times over, especially through VECO.

The Gazini Plaza is exactly where the house of Don Mamerto was once located.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/escanohousejunqueracorcolon.jpg

I believe this house faced Colon Street. A movie house called Lyric was also built near the spot before the war, when Don Mamerto moved to the uptown area.

You are a fount of information! This photo is awesome, where on earth did you get this? That's a rhetorical question. I have ceased to wonder how you get these pictures!

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 28th, 2009, 09:59 AM

Ang_Bantayanon

July 28th, 2009, 12:21 PM

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH394.jpg

Arrival in Cebu of the Most Excellent postolic [Apostolic] Delegate and auxiliary Bishops and the Committee in the Canonical errection [erection] of the Diocese of Cebu to an Archdiocese and the installation of Archbishiop Gabriel M. Reyes as the first archbishiop of Cebu. In the photo may be seen Archbishop Guillermor Piani, postolic [Apostolic] Delegate to the Philippines; Archbishio Thomas Agustin Hendrick; Msgr. Jose Ma. Cuenco, Vicar General of Cebu; overnor [Governor] Sotero Cabahug. taken on November 8, 1934.

Padre, the American prelate in this picture might be Msgr. Michael Doherty, archbishop of Manila because Bishop Hendrick had long been dead in 1934. He died in 1909 and was replaced by Bishop Gorordo. But anyway, this is an interesting find. :banana:

Ang_Bantayanon

July 28th, 2009, 12:21 PM

sanvalente

July 28th, 2009, 12:24 PM

You are a fount of information! This photo is awesome, where on earth did you get this? That's a rhetorical question. I have ceased to wonder how you get these pictures!

Oh booy! .... what a find indeed! It's funny I asked my classmate in
college who is now a viuda if she has some old pictures of their family house
and she told me they were all lost during the war kuno.... wait 'til she sees
this one....

saludos to achaeologue!

sanvalente

July 28th, 2009, 12:24 PM

gee

July 28th, 2009, 01:55 PM

Padre, the American prelate in this picture might be Msgr. Michael Doherty, archbishop of Manila because Bishop Hendrick had long been dead in 1934. He died in 1909 and was replaced by Bishop Gorordo. But anyway, this is an interesting find. :banana:

thanks for the correction. i just copied it from the website without reviewing it.

gee

July 28th, 2009, 01:55 PM

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 01:59 PM

Oh booy! .... what a find indeed! It's funny I asked my classmate in
college who is now a viuda if she has some old pictures of their family house
and she told me they were all lost during the war kuno.... wait 'til she sees
this one....

saludos to achaeologue!

thanks....

i'm sure she has a copy of this book since it was privately circulated for Escano kin and family members only

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/scan0002-3.jpg

You are a fount of information! This photo is awesome, where on earth did you get this? That's a rhetorical question. I have ceased to wonder how you get these pictures!

hayyy, don't credit me. what would life be without the great Resil Mojares?

Sanvalente and Ang Karaang Tawo, you should try going through the photographic collection of Cebuano Studies Center.

A lot of the photos there are copies made from Mamerto Escano's original photos of Cebu which he himself shot during his spare time.

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 01:59 PM

naruto-kun

July 28th, 2009, 02:11 PM

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH394.jpg

Arrival in Cebu of the Most Excellent postolic [Apostolic] Delegate and auxiliary Bishops and the Committee in the Canonical errection [erection] of the Diocese of Cebu to an Archdiocese and the installation of Archbishiop Gabriel M. Reyes as the first archbishiop of Cebu. In the photo may be seen Archbishop Guillermor Piani, postolic [Apostolic] Delegate to the Philippines; Archbishio Thomas Agustin Hendrick; Msgr. Jose Ma. Cuenco, Vicar General of Cebu; overnor [Governor] Sotero Cabahug. taken on November 8, 1934.

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH144.jpg

Archbishop Gabriel Reyes prepares to disembark on his arrival in Cebu on Oct. 20, 1934, as Archbishop of Cebu. Also in photo are Mons. [Monsignor] Jose Ma. [Jose Maria] Cuenco and Hon. Sotero B. Cabahug.

source: http://sea.lib.niu.edu

Thanks :banana::) !!!! at last, a picture of Archbishop Reyes!:banana:

naruto-kun

July 28th, 2009, 02:11 PM

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH394.jpg

Arrival in Cebu of the Most Excellent postolic [Apostolic] Delegate and auxiliary Bishops and the Committee in the Canonical errection [erection] of the Diocese of Cebu to an Archdiocese and the installation of Archbishiop Gabriel M. Reyes as the first archbishiop of Cebu. In the photo may be seen Archbishop Guillermor Piani, postolic [Apostolic] Delegate to the Philippines; Archbishio Thomas Agustin Hendrick; Msgr. Jose Ma. Cuenco, Vicar General of Cebu; overnor [Governor] Sotero Cabahug. taken on November 8, 1934.

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH144.jpg

Archbishop Gabriel Reyes prepares to disembark on his arrival in Cebu on Oct. 20, 1934, as Archbishop of Cebu. Also in photo are Mons. [Monsignor] Jose Ma. [Jose Maria] Cuenco and Hon. Sotero B. Cabahug.

source: http://sea.lib.niu.edu

Thanks :banana::) !!!! at last, a picture of Archbishop Reyes!:banana:

naruto-kun

July 28th, 2009, 02:15 PM

^^ ^^

Ur welcome.

The Cathedral Museum is obviously the wrong place to go since the naming of the street had nothing to do with the church...you should try the Rizal Memorial Library and Museum. Good luck!

I went there but no information was available, not even the name!!!! :ohno::ohno: They had history of other INSIGNIFICANT roads but no this one.... :ohno:

Thanks anyways! :banana::banana:

naruto-kun

July 28th, 2009, 02:15 PM

^^ ^^

Ur welcome.

The Cathedral Museum is obviously the wrong place to go since the naming of the street had nothing to do with the church...you should try the Rizal Memorial Library and Museum. Good luck!

I went there but no information was available, not even the name!!!! :ohno::ohno: They had history of other INSIGNIFICANT roads but no this one.... :ohno:

Thanks anyways! :banana::banana:

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 28th, 2009, 02:25 PM

thanks....

i'm sure she has a copy of this book since it was privately circulated for Escano kin and family members only

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/scan0002-3.jpg

hayyy, don't credit me. what would life be without the great Resil Mojares?

Sanvalente and Ang Karaang Tawo, you should try going through the photographic collection of Cebuano Studies Center.

A lot of the photos there are copies made from Mamerto Escano's original photos of Cebu which he himself shot during his spare time.

Sige, will do that one of these days. Am reviewing the text for BB. Will email them by end of the week.:)

Ang Karaang Tawo

July 28th, 2009, 02:25 PM

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 03:01 PM

I went there but no information was available, not even the name!!!! :ohno::ohno: They had history of other INSIGNIFICANT roads but no this one.... :ohno:

Thanks anyways! :banana::banana:

Just as i thought. That is why i said "Good Luck!" hahahaah.
:bash:

archaeologue

July 28th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Animo

July 29th, 2009, 04:32 PM

http://images.inquirer.net/media/showbizandstyle/lifestyle/lifestyle/images/pic-07270413240428.jpg

http://images.inquirer.net/media/showbizandstyle/lifestyle/lifestyle/images/pic-07270426050645.jpg

By Augusto Villalon (http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/lifestyle/lifestyle/view/20090726-217332/Cebu-features-late-night-multi-museum)
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:29:00 07/26/2009

Filed Under: Libraries & Museums, Art and Crafts, Local authorities

GABII sa Kabilin (NIGHT of Heritage), the only museum and cultural event of its kind in the Philippines and Asia, returned for the third straight year as six Cebu museums keep their doors open from 6 p.m. to midnight on a late summer night in the heritage district of Cebu City.

The museums are close to each other in the old Parian District, once Cebu’s premier residential district which flourished during the Spanish colonial era until World War II brought about its decline.

The district is now a congested inner-city neighborhood. Heritage groups and former residents eager to make the Parian area live again hold a regular series of activities as part of a neighborhood rejuvenation activity now attracting more and more Cebuanos to the district to discover their heritage.

One of the more successful activities is the revival of the traditional dawn processions complete with parishioners in Biblical costumes, who walk with a menagerie of goats and lambs alongside huge papier-mâché camels held the Three Wise Men.

Everyone walks the few blocks to the Cebu Cathedral to the beat of a brass band before dawn for the nine-day series of early-morning pre-Christmas Masses.

The procession returns to the Parian after the Mass, where just after daybreak the parishioners serve a traditional Cebuano breakfast for everyone at the plaza.

‘Tartanilla’ ride

Museums open for the night were Casa Gorordo Museum (35 Lopez-Jaena St.); the Yap-Sandiego ancestral house (Mabini cor. Lopez-Jaena Sts.); Cathedral Museum (P. Burgos Street); Santo Niño Museum (P. Burgos Street entrance); Fort San Pedro (Plaza Independencia); and Museo Sugbo (M.J. Cuenco Street), the newest participant.

They presented a night of cultural activities at P100 per person, which allowed multiple entry to each venue.

Walking the museum route or riding the quiet Parian streets in a tartanilla (calesa) was a great way to experience and explore Cebu’s rich heritage and colorful past.

Providing another experience of old Cebu was radio personality and heritage guide Balbino “Ka Bino” Guerrero, whose walking tour followed the museum route, stopped at each museum for a special visit, and refreshments of traditional Cebuano delicacies afterward.

On display were priceless antique vestments worn by the Santo Niño de Cebu through the centuries. More interesting were the collection of vestments offered in thanksgiving, ranging from the elaborate to the simple.

The most touching display case contained a large collection of toys of different kinds, offered in thanks to the miraculous image, the Santo Niño being a child, after all, who likes playing with toys.

Nature preserve

Two of old Parian’s best-preserved homes dating from the Spanish colonial era were open to the public. At the Yap-Sandiego in the Plaza Parian itself, dance performances by the acclaimed Sandiego Dance Company were staged throughout the evening.

At the venerable Casa Gorordo, one of the earliest lifestyle museums in the Philippines with a priceless collection of Spanish colonial furniture and decorative arts, local choral groups sang in the patio alternating with readings of Cebuano poetry.

Fort San Pedro, which predated Manila’s Fort Santiago, opened its floodlit baluartes and ramparts for late-night walks that offered superb views of the harbor. But more interesting were the Fort’s garden, an inner-city nature preserve.

Gabii sa Kabilin, a culminating activity for Museum Week and National Heritage Month, began three years ago with only four participating museums. Joined by two more on its third year, it is an ideal night on the town for Cebuanos to see and experience museums in activities not usually associated with their collections.

Gabii sa Kabilin is a partnership of the Ramon Aboitiz Foundation, Inc. Cultural Heritage Program and Visayas Association of Museums and Galleries Inc.

E-mail the author at pride.place@gmail.com

Animo

July 29th, 2009, 04:32 PM

harveharve

July 30th, 2009, 07:03 PM

harveharve

July 30th, 2009, 07:03 PM

archaeologue

July 31st, 2009, 01:20 AM

^^^^

I think the is an early 1950s map. the North Reclamation hasn't even started yet.

i stand corrected, the old airport road is Salinas Drive. not Banilad Road (or D. Jakosalem Extension). I have a feeling that D. Jakosalem Ext. may have been only up to Lahug Airfield because, until USC established Talamban Campus formally in 1965, there was virtually nothing beyond the airfield except sugarcane fields all the way up to Talamban.

Thanks for posting this, Harve.

archaeologue

July 31st, 2009, 01:20 AM

harveharve

July 31st, 2009, 01:28 PM

@archaeologue: no problem.. I just remembered this map from Gee's CHW resource website when I was browsing through the photos hehehe

I know I have a cadastral map of mabolo-talamban and parts of mandaue from the same period, going to look for it, if i remember correctly it did have street names =D mag-hatsi hatsi nasad ko ani sa abog hehehehe bahala na, lingaw man mangukay bitaw =p

harveharve

July 31st, 2009, 01:28 PM

harveharve

July 31st, 2009, 01:39 PM

In the meantime, here's something from http://www.pacificairfields.com/af_show_airfield.php?id=5380

http://www.pacificairfields.com/maps/134.jpg

http://www.pacificairfields.com/maps/133.jpg

Single runway, 5500 ft x 100 ft overrun at NE end; 250 ft. overrun at SW end.

Surface: Coral and clay. Dry weather

Elevation: 97 ft average above sea level

Obstructions: none.

RON Facilities: Available in emergency

Service Facilities: Emergency refueling only. No maintenance.

Source: Airdromes Guide Southwest Pacific Area - 1 July 1945 Contributed by: Dave Pluth

harveharve

July 31st, 2009, 01:39 PM

naruto-kun

July 31st, 2009, 02:55 PM

@Naruto-kun:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/IMG_0769.jpg

This cadastral map from with survey date Dec.1910 to Feb. 1912 shows that lone road in the middle of nowhere. Sadly, this cadastral survey map does not show the name of this road.

In another map, however, from a Caltex Map, it does name the road as Jakosalem Ext. (D. Jakosalem Ext.) but I am not quite sure from what period this map came from, most likely post war.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q177/harveharve/09cebu.jpg

thanks a lot!!! :) :cheers: I did some interview in the area in old people said that the road was D. jakosalem maxilom ext. which was ratified by you. I'll try checking at the library to see if this info is existing there.

naruto-kun

July 31st, 2009, 02:55 PM

sick_n_tired

August 1st, 2009, 02:57 AM

http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/Himg197/scaled.php?server=197&filename=cebuyapsandiegoancestra.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/Himg11/scaled.php?server=11&filename=cebuheritagemonument002.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/Himg352/scaled.php?server=352&filename=cebuheritagemonument.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/Himg16/scaled.php?server=16&filename=cebucasagorordo001.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

sick_n_tired

August 1st, 2009, 02:57 AM

AmbutLang

August 1st, 2009, 03:54 AM

Sa daan kilid sa Lahug airport paduong sa Talamban abug manna. Adto mi maninba sa Talamban sa fiesta kung dili mi maka adto Tubigon, Bohol pamiesta sa San Roque. Murag diha manmi agi paduong sa Mt Manungal sa pag crash sa aeroplano ni Late President Ramon Magsaysay anang pagkabuntagga.

AmbutLang

August 1st, 2009, 03:54 AM

archaeologue

August 1st, 2009, 06:08 AM

http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/Himg197/scaled.php?server=197&filename=cebuyapsandiegoancestra.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/Himg352/scaled.php?server=352&filename=cebuheritagemonument.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

very nice photos but not so nice subjects. joke!

one is a house that an NHI architect commented as "kitsch".

the other is a monument too gargantuan for its location.

but very nice photos.

congratulations.

archaeologue

August 1st, 2009, 06:08 AM

http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/Himg197/scaled.php?server=197&filename=cebuyapsandiegoancestra.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/Himg352/scaled.php?server=352&filename=cebuheritagemonument.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

very nice photos but not so nice subjects. joke!

one is a house that an NHI architect commented as "kitsch".

the other is a monument too gargantuan for its location.

but very nice photos.

congratulations.

goleyson

August 1st, 2009, 03:48 PM

i woder if that really is the actual size of the yap sandiego house or it was bigger way back then?

goleyson

August 1st, 2009, 03:48 PM

i woder if that really is the actual size of the yap sandiego house or it was bigger way back then?

Wolfranz

August 1st, 2009, 06:57 PM

Wolfranz

August 1st, 2009, 06:57 PM

maayomo

August 1st, 2009, 08:41 PM

very nice photos but not so nice subjects. joke!

one is a house that an NHI architect commented as "kitsch".

the other is a monument too gargantuan for its location.

but very nice photos.

congratulations.

hehehe. naa jud diay naka-observe, sir. but i was expecting something more like "chopsuey" rather than "kitsch". oh, well. some even say the house is both. but i'm sure, maayo gyud ang intention sa owner.

maayomo

August 1st, 2009, 08:41 PM

sanvalente

August 2nd, 2009, 01:22 AM

Here's a very simple definition of a museum from wiki:

A museum is a "permanent institution in the service of society and of its development, open to the public, which acquires, conserves, researches, communicates and exhibits the tangible and intangible heritage of humanity and its environment, for the purposes of education, study, and enjoyment", as defined by the International Council of Museums.[1] The UK Museums Association definition (adopted 1998)[2] is:
“ Museums enable people to explore collections for inspiration, learning and enjoyment. They are institutions that collect, safeguard and make accessible artifacts and specimens, which they hold in trust for society. ”

Hmmmmn ....Now I'm a little bit careful in my opinion if this definition is updated or not because I can't find anything that says antiquities trading in it.

sanvalente

August 2nd, 2009, 01:22 AM

Ka_Bino

August 2nd, 2009, 03:59 AM

i would take the the 5th amendment... hehehehe

but for the heritage monument, i love to wake up one day and see it transported to SRP

Ka_Bino

August 2nd, 2009, 03:59 AM

i would take the the 5th amendment... hehehehe

but for the heritage monument, i love to wake up one day and see it transported to SRP

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 04:26 AM

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 04:26 AM

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:43 PM

Sir, is there a local "museum" which is doing this? Maybe pang support lang pud sa "museum" kay ang gate receipts dili enough para maka-sustain niya.

museums are generally not allowed to sell their collections.

but if they do, it is always through museum exchange...or the object is sold to another museum and only because the vendor has a surplus of similar items and that these items are not cultural treasures. in other words, onyl common pieces can be sold to other museums---never, never, never to private collectors.

a museum that has no money for its operations had better close and donate its collection to another museum rather than sell it for profit to a collector or a group of collectors.

that is why it is not simple to set up a museum. there are ethical rules to observe and strictly uphold.

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:43 PM

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:44 PM

i would take the the 5th amendment... hehehehe

but for the heritage monument, i love to wake up one day and see it transported to SRP

plaza independncia would be a good location already for the heritage monument.

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:44 PM

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:53 PM

why did that NHI architect called the house "kitsch"?

chopsuey is harsh...but Wikipedia is more harsh:

The term is considered derogatory, denoting works executed to pander to popular demand alone, purely for commercial purposes rather than works created as self-expression by an artist, generally, being reserved for unsubstantial and gaudy works that are calculated to have popular appeal and are considered pretentious and shallow rather than genuine artistic efforts.

Kitsch was a response to the 19th century art whose aesthetics convey exaggerated sentimentality and melodrama, hence, kitsch art is closely associated with sentimental art.

Contemporaneously, kitsch also (loosely) denotes art that is aesthetically pretentious to the degree of being in poor taste and industrially-produced art-items that are considered trite and crass.

i think what wiki is trying to say is that kitsch is akin to works produced or mass produced for the touristic market...

for me the kitschy character of the house is that there are embellishments that do not belong to its period nor do they represent certain practices now or in the past.

take for example the many lampstands or whatchmacallits...or the casko/baroto hanging on its second floor.

also, the wordy interpretation of the house which is painted on wood should not be placed in that manner and at that location---it smacks of crass commercialism. even the name of the house should not be bandied about in public like that. it has become almost like a hardware store or some sari-sari store karatula or name-board.

just imagine if casa gorordo did the same...

good intention or not, people who own old houses must respect the character of their houses and not embellish them with things that were never there in the first place.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/parianplazaca1900low.jpg

The photo above of Plaza Parian taken from the roof of the Parian Convent, already converted to Cebu Fire Station, helps drive home the point of the young NHI architect. Taken probably in 1900 to 1905 (no automobiles yet), the houses are resplendent in their simplicity, beautiful in their serenity.

p.s. the early attempt to put tint or color on this photo resulted in a kitschy outcome: the shrubs are as red as the tile roofs---hahaha....a lame attempt at popular appeal so that this photo would sell....such crass commercialism even made the gas lamps shine in daytime...even the horse wants to turn red!!!

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 02:53 PM

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 03:39 PM

chopsuey is harsh...but Wikipedia is more harsh:

The term is considered derogatory, denoting works executed to pander to popular demand alone, purely for commercial purposes rather than works created as self-expression by an artist, generally, being reserved for unsubstantial and gaudy works that are calculated to have popular appeal and are considered pretentious and shallow rather than genuine artistic efforts.

Kitsch was a response to the 19th century art whose aesthetics convey exaggerated sentimentality and melodrama, hence, kitsch art is closely associated with sentimental art.

Contemporaneously, kitsch also (loosely) denotes art that is aesthetically pretentious to the degree of being in poor taste and industrially-produced art-items that are considered trite and crass.

i think what wiki is trying to say is that kitsch is akin to works produced or mass produced for the touristic market...

for me the kitschy character of the house is that there are embellishments that do not belong to its period nor do they represent certain practices now or in the past.

take for example the many lampstands or whatchmacallits...or the casko/baroto hanging on its second floor.

also, the wordy interpretation of the house which is painted on wood should not be placed in that manner and at that location---it smacks of crass commercialism. even the name of the house should not be bandied about in public like that. it has become almost like a hardware store or some sari-sari store karatula or name-board.

just imagine if casa gorordo did the same...

good intention or not, people who own old houses must respect the character of their houses and not embellish them with things that were never there in the first place.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/parianplazaca1900low.jpg

The photo above of Plaza Parian taken from the roof of the Parian Convent, already converted to Cebu Fire Station, helps drive home the point of the young NHI architect. Taken probably in 1900 to 1905 (no automobiles yet), the houses are resplendent in their simplicity, beautiful in their serenity.

p.s. the early attempt to put tint or color on this photo resulted in a kitschy outcome: the shrubs are as red as the tile roofs---hahaha....a lame attempt at popular appeal so that this photo would sell....such crass commercialism even made the gas lamps shine in daytime...even the horse wants to turn red!!!

Thanks for enlightening us, Sir. : )

Anyways, I think the owner is trying to cram all of his antique collections in the house, that's why we see three dining table setups, even one in the basement which presumably was never used as living quarters but as some sort of storage area when the house was still functioning as, well, a house. This is not to disrespect the owner, since he has done a lot for our local cultural events (the Sinulog in particular), but I hope somebody could offer him some advise.

On the subject of old houses, Sir, what do you think about the painting of the Rizal house in Calamba a shade of green? Ambeth Ocampo got a lot of flak for that one, especially from the people of Calamba. But in hindsight, is it possible that the house was really painted that way (or with another color) when the Rizal family still lived there? A forumer in another heritage thread said that a "bahay-na-bato" was usually painted a vibrant shade of color, and not the plain white we see today. He said that the "white" trend started when Imelda ordered that the houses in Calle Crisologo in Vigan be painted white.

In that case, shouldn't the Yap-Sandiego house be also given a vibrant color?

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 03:39 PM

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 03:58 PM

Thanks for enlightening us, Sir. : )

Anyways, I think the owner is trying to cram all of his antique collections in the house, that's why we see three dining table setups, even one in the basement which presumably was never used as living quarters but as some sort of storage area when the house was still functioning as, well, a house. This is not to disrespect the owner, since he has done a lot for our local cultural events (the Sinulog in particular), but I hope somebody could offer him some advise.

On the subject of old houses, Sir, what do you think about the painting of the Rizal house in Calamba a shade of green? Ambeth Ocampo got a lot of flak for that one, especially from the people of Calamba. But in hindsight, is it possible that the house was really painted that way (or with another color) when the Rizal family still lived there? A forumer in another heritage thread said that a "bahay-na-bato" was usually painted a vibrant shade of color, and not the plain white we see today. He said that the "white" trend started when Imelda ordered that the houses in Calle Crisologo in Vigan be painted white.

In that case, shouldn't the Yap-Sandiego house be also given a vibrant color?

I talked with NHI people who decided on the color but I have not talked directly to Ambeth about it yet even though we meet and text each other from time to time. He is coming over for the Museo Sugbo inauguration of the NHI galleries on August 13 at 5 p.m. You should ask him hahahaah...basta i get his point but he missed out on consulting the locals and informing the stakeholders about it.

the Rizal House, incidentally, is not the original one. it was rebuilt from scratch because the original Rizal House did not survive for one reason or another. Ambeth explained this in his column. The house was reconstructed in the 1950s based on the original plans of the house.

An NHI architect told me that when they conducted studies on the fabric of the house, they discovered that it had a green tinge underneath the color before it was repainted last June. Apparently, there was an existing color for this house in the 1950s but was quickly forgotten across one generation.

Now, the Yap-Sandiego House is a different story altogether because it is not something that was reconstructed or built from scratch as in the Rizal House. Nor were Spanish period houses ever painted inasmuch as paints were hard to come by during that time---and you had to make your own out of vegetable/plant material mixed with oils.

Try painting an unsmoothened coral stone balay nga bato today and you will be shocked that this is not possible. hahah...it is the color of the paletada, i think, that the forumer was talking about. and perhaps he was not referring to our balay nga bato in the Visayas. unlike those in luzon which are made of volcanic tuff, ours are made of coral stone. i do not think it is easy to paint such tablillas made of coral stone. perhaps the cornices or some even surfaces or carved reliefs like those you find on church facades were painted. but the whole balang nga bato? nah.i don't buy that.

neither do I agree that Imelda started the white color of houses with stone fabric. at the old prison walls of Museo Sugbo, you find layers upon layers of carburo/kalburo, applied over the years, and i suspect even before the Marcos years. Carburo is white.

American architects of the City Beautiful movement/tradition, like Daniel Burnham and his student William Parsons, preferred white as the color that best represented the grandiose elegance of government buildings. that is why structures of the American colonial period were always required to be painted in white. Obviously, those with houses around these structures may have also followed suit. Imelda, obviously, was not yet the First Lady in 1901.

archaeologue

August 2nd, 2009, 03:58 PM

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 04:36 PM

I talked with NHI people who decided on the color but I have not talked directly to Ambeth about it yet even though we meet and text each other from time to time. He is coming over for the Museo Sugbo inauguration of the NHI galleries on August 13 at 5 p.m. You should ask him hahahaah...basta i get his point but he missed out on consulting the locals and informing the stakeholders about it.

the Rizal House, incidentally, is not the original one. it was rebuilt from scratch because the original Rizal House did not survive for one reason or another. Ambeth explained this in his column. The house was reconstructed in the 1950s based on the original plans of the house.

An NHI architect told me that when they conducted studies on the fabric of the house, they discovered that it had a green tinge underneath the color before it was repainted last June. Apparently, there was an existing color for this house in the 1950s but was quickly forgotten across one generation.

Now, the Yap-Sandiego House is a different story altogether because it is not something that was reconstructed or built from scratch as in the Rizal House. Nor were Spanish period houses ever painted inasmuch as paints were hard to come by during that time---and you had to make your own out of vegetable/plant material mixed with oils.

Try painting an unsmoothened coral stone balay nga bato today and you will be shocked that this is not possible. hahah...it is the color of the paletada, i think, that the forumer was talking about. and perhaps he was not referring to our balay nga bato in the Visayas. unlike those in luzon which are made of volcanic tuff, ours are made of coral stone. i do not think it is easy to paint such tablillas made of coral stone. perhaps the cornices or some even surfaces or carved reliefs like those you find on church facades were painted. but the whole balang nga bato? nah.i don't buy that.

neither do I agree that Imelda started the white color of houses with stone fabric. at the old prison walls of Museo Sugbo, you find layers upon layers of carburo/kalburo, applied over the years, and i suspect even before the Marcos years. Carburo is white.

American architects of the City Beautiful movement/tradition, like Daniel Burnham and his student William Parsons, preferred white as the color that best represented the grandiose elegance of government buildings. that is why structures of the American colonial period were always required to be painted in white. Obviously, those with houses around these structures may have also followed suit. Imelda, obviously, was not yet the First Lady in 1901.

Thanks for the reply, Sir. Murag free lessons na ni, da. Hehe. : )

Just as I thought. Sus, I thought punggutan na jud ug ulo si Ambeth Ocampo. Turns out he just needed to confer with the people concerned. Errr...he's coming over? I hope he could spare me a couple of minutes. I would like to ask him to sign some books of which he is the author. Fanboy. Hehe.

Yeah, maybe the forumer was referring to something else, and he got it mixed up. Or, maybe I'm the one who's got it all mixed up. Basta, that's the way remember it. In addition, he also proposed that the Luzon Lumber building (that one made of wood, beside E-Mall) be painted. Of course it raised a lot of eyebrows, but he showed some restored wooden buildings which were quite similar to that of the Luzon Lumber, and these were painted bright red, or bright green, etc. and he said that when these buildings were new, they were painted that way. Question is, was Luzon Lumber ever given a coat of paint?

maayomo

August 2nd, 2009, 04:36 PM

Wolfranz

August 2nd, 2009, 06:06 PM

I talked with NHI people who decided on the color but I have not talked directly to Ambeth about it yet even though we meet and text each other from time to time. He is coming over for the Museo Sugbo inauguration of the NHI galleries on August 13 at 5 p.m. You should ask him hahahaah...basta i get his point but he missed out on consulting the locals and informing the stakeholders about it.

the Rizal House, incidentally, is not the original one. it was rebuilt from scratch because the original Rizal House did not survive for one reason or another. Ambeth explained this in his column. The house was reconstructed in the 1950s based on the original plans of the house.

An NHI architect told me that when they conducted studies on the fabric of the house, they discovered that it had a green tinge underneath the color before it was repainted last June. Apparently, there was an existing color for this house in the 1950s but was quickly forgotten across one generation.

Now, the Yap-Sandiego House is a different story altogether because it is not something that was reconstructed or built from scratch as in the Rizal House. Nor were Spanish period houses ever painted inasmuch as paints were hard to come by during that time---and you had to make your own out of vegetable/plant material mixed with oils.

Try painting an unsmoothened coral stone balay nga bato today and you will be shocked that this is not possible. hahah...it is the color of the paletada, i think, that the forumer was talking about. and perhaps he was not referring to our balay nga bato in the Visayas. unlike those in luzon which are made of volcanic tuff, ours are made of coral stone. i do not think it is easy to paint such tablillas made of coral stone. perhaps the cornices or some even surfaces or carved reliefs like those you find on church facades were painted. but the whole balang nga bato? nah.i don't buy that.

neither do I agree that Imelda started the white color of houses with stone fabric. at the old prison walls of Museo Sugbo, you find layers upon layers of carburo/kalburo, applied over the years, and i suspect even before the Marcos years. Carburo is white.

American architects of the City Beautiful movement/tradition, like Daniel Burnham and his student William Parsons, preferred white as the color that best represented the grandiose elegance of government buildings. that is why structures of the American colonial period were always required to be painted in white. Obviously, those with houses around these structures may have also followed suit. Imelda, obviously, was not yet the First Lady in 1901.

Sir, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't vibrant/bright colors a thing of the 50s or the following decades? If I am right, then this repainting of NHI is made to restore the appearance of the house in the 50s, not its appearance in the Spanish colonial period. Isn't that quite not in consonance with the purpose of the museum, that is to show how the Rizal family lived in that house in their time?

Wolfranz

August 2nd, 2009, 06:06 PM

I talked with NHI people who decided on the color but I have not talked directly to Ambeth about it yet even though we meet and text each other from time to time. He is coming over for the Museo Sugbo inauguration of the NHI galleries on August 13 at 5 p.m. You should ask him hahahaah...basta i get his point but he missed out on consulting the locals and informing the stakeholders about it.

the Rizal House, incidentally, is not the original one. it was rebuilt from scratch because the original Rizal House did not survive for one reason or another. Ambeth explained this in his column. The house was reconstructed in the 1950s based on the original plans of the house.

An NHI architect told me that when they conducted studies on the fabric of the house, they discovered that it had a green tinge underneath the color before it was repainted last June. Apparently, there was an existing color for this house in the 1950s but was quickly forgotten across one generation.

Now, the Yap-Sandiego House is a different story altogether because it is not something that was reconstructed or built from scratch as in the Rizal House. Nor were Spanish period houses ever painted inasmuch as paints were hard to come by during that time---and you had to make your own out of vegetable/plant material mixed with oils.

Try painting an unsmoothened coral stone balay nga bato today and you will be shocked that this is not possible. hahah...it is the color of the paletada, i think, that the forumer was talking about. and perhaps he was not referring to our balay nga bato in the Visayas. unlike those in luzon which are made of volcanic tuff, ours are made of coral stone. i do not think it is easy to paint such tablillas made of coral stone. perhaps the cornices or some even surfaces or carved reliefs like those you find on church facades were painted. but the whole balang nga bato? nah.i don't buy that.

neither do I agree that Imelda started the white color of houses with stone fabric. at the old prison walls of Museo Sugbo, you find layers upon layers of carburo/kalburo, applied over the years, and i suspect even before the Marcos years. Carburo is white.

American architects of the City Beautiful movement/tradition, like Daniel Burnham and his student William Parsons, preferred white as the color that best represented the grandiose elegance of government buildings. that is why structures of the American colonial period were always required to be painted in white. Obviously, those with houses around these structures may have also followed suit. Imelda, obviously, was not yet the First Lady in 1901.

Sir, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't vibrant/bright colors a thing of the 50s or the following decades? If I am right, then this repainting of NHI is made to restore the appearance of the house in the 50s, not its appearance in the Spanish colonial period. Isn't that quite not in consonance with the purpose of the museum, that is to show how the Rizal family lived in that house in their time?

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 07:29 AM

Speaking of "bahay-na-bato", I saw one at Mabolo.

It's a few meters away from Persimmon. Hardware ang ga occupy karon.

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 07:29 AM

Speaking of "bahay-na-bato", I saw one at Mabolo.

It's a few meters away from Persimmon. Hardware ang ga occupy karon.

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 07:36 AM

I forgot to post this one. A few weeks ago, people from Diegocera Organ Builders brought down the pipe organ of the basilica to be repaired at their shop in Las Pinas.

I heard that the priests were very excited and that they would "surely" use the organ everyday.

:banana: :banana:

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 07:36 AM

SineBuano

August 3rd, 2009, 08:00 AM

Just can't stop adding this.

Yes, they will surely be enjoying using their new big shiny organ everyday.

SineBuano

August 3rd, 2009, 08:00 AM

Just can't stop adding this.

Yes, they will surely be enjoying using their new big shiny organ everyday.

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 08:01 AM

Hehehe

LordCarnal

August 3rd, 2009, 08:01 AM

Hehehe

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 08:23 AM

Just can't stop adding this.

Yes, they will surely be enjoying using their new big shiny organ everyday.

wouldn'd the organ shrivel if it is always used? hahaha :nuts:

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 08:23 AM

Just can't stop adding this.

Yes, they will surely be enjoying using their new big shiny organ everyday.

wouldn'd the organ shrivel if it is always used? hahaha :nuts:

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 08:36 AM

Sir, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't vibrant/bright colors a thing of the 50s or the following decades? If I am right, then this repainting of NHI is made to restore the appearance of the house in the 50s, not its appearance in the Spanish colonial period. Isn't that quite not in consonance with the purpose of the museum, that is to show how the Rizal family lived in that house in their time?

Yes. But then again nothing is authentic inside and outside the house itself. Well except perhaps for some clothes and other parahernalia brought in from Rizal's relatives from god knows where.

Moreover, this is not a museum. It is a shrine to Rizal, an architectural monument in honor of his former house.

It's not like Casa Gorordo where every furniture, every piece of object it contains now was already there when the Gorordos left it. Well, except for those that the Aboitizes brought in to add accent to the house and to reflect its new ownership. There is a difference in terms of the level of integrity, significance and authenticity between these two.
One is a house where indeed Bishop Gorordo lived and died. The other is a reconstruction of the house where Rizal lived his younger existence. The floorboards, the walls, everything in the Rizal House do not carry any iota of Rizal's breath, sweat, footprints, etc.; for they were brouht in from hardware stores and suppliers of the 1950s---no historical significance whatsoever. It is, in a sense, a replica of what was.

Between an authentic ivory statue and a replica, would the treatment be any different?

I would think so. Between the genuine Magellan's Cross or Sto. Nino and one that pretends to be but is known not to be, our veneration and level of awe, as well as the emotional reactions to these would be totally different. So too the conservation measures.

But I do agree with everyone else, the painting of the house green should not have been done without getting the stakeholders' acceptance and understanding.

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 08:36 AM

Wolfranz

August 3rd, 2009, 10:14 AM

Yes. But then again nothing is authentic inside and outside the house itself. Well except perhaps for some clothes and other parahernalia brought in from Rizal's relatives from god knows where.

Moreover, this is not a museum. It is a shrine to Rizal, an architectural monument in honor of his former house.

It's not like Casa Gorordo where every furniture, every piece of object it contains now was already there when the Gorordos left it. Well, except for those that the Aboitizes brought in to add accent to the house and to reflect its new ownership. There is a difference in terms of the level of integrity, significance and authenticity between these two.
One is a house where indeed Bishop Gorordo lived and died. The other is a reconstruction of the house where Rizal lived his younger existence. The floorboards, the walls, everything in the Rizal House do not carry any iota of Rizal's breath, sweat, footprints, etc.; for they were brouht in from hardware stores and suppliers of the 1950s---no historical significance whatsoever. It is, in a sense, a replica of what was.

Between an authentic ivory statue and a replica, would the treatment be any different?

I would think so. Between the genuine Magellan's Cross or Sto. Nino and one that pretends to be but is known not to be, our veneration and level of awe, as well as the emotional reactions to these would be totally different. So too the conservation measures.

But I do agree with everyone else, the painting of the house green should not have been done without getting the stakeholders' acceptance and understanding.

Ok. Thanks for that info sir. But honestly, IMO, even if replicas are just reproductions/imitations, they should be true to what they stand for. Just like a Stradivarius violin. A copy of a Strad would not be identified as a copy of a Strad if it doesn't imitate the attributes of a real Stradivarius. :)

Wolfranz

August 3rd, 2009, 10:14 AM

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 11:36 AM

^^

You have a valid point there, of course.

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 11:36 AM

^^

You have a valid point there, of course.

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 01:15 PM

Thanks for the reply, Sir. Murag free lessons na ni, da. Hehe. : )

Just as I thought. Sus, I thought punggutan na jud ug ulo si Ambeth Ocampo. Turns out he just needed to confer with the people concerned. Errr...he's coming over? I hope he could spare me a couple of minutes. I would like to ask him to sign some books of which he is the author. Fanboy. Hehe.

Ambeth has a lecture entitled "Finding the Winged Dragon: Rizal and Science" on Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2009, 1:30-4:30 at the CAFA Theater, USC Talamban Campus. It is open to the public. Anvil will be there to sell all his books including his latest one. Please go there and invite others, too.

Yeah, maybe the forumer was referring to something else, and he got it mixed up. Or, maybe I'm the one who's got it all mixed up. Basta, that's the way remember it. In addition, he also proposed that the Luzon Lumber building (that one made of wood, beside E-Mall) be painted. Of course it raised a lot of eyebrows, but he showed some restored wooden buildings which were quite similar to that of the Luzon Lumber, and these were painted bright red, or bright green, etc. and he said that when these buildings were new, they were painted that way. Question is, was Luzon Lumber ever given a coat of paint?

No. Luzon Lumber was built immediately after the war. I do not think it was cheap to buy paint at the time when everything was down and out.

So why build a bridge when there is no river, as it were? hahaahah...

My God, this forum is becoming is full of me already. I will keep quiet from here on for now. But before I go, please please, all of you, join us for the Ambeth Ocampo lecture on August 11, sponsored by Kabilin Heritage Studies Center and the Department of History.

Then on Thursday, 13 August at 5 o'clock, join us for the inauguration of the new Museo Sugbo galleries, the NHI Museum of Philippine Political History and the National Museum Cebu Branch.
We will also unveil the NHI marker for Carcel de Cebu.

Also, the governor will lead dignitaries in the ceremonial tossing of gold-plated coins at the Well of Wisdom, Love and Good Fortune, also at Museo Sugbo.

archaeologue

August 3rd, 2009, 01:15 PM

maayomo

August 3rd, 2009, 06:38 PM

Ambeth has a lecture entitled "Finding the Winged Dragon: Rizal and Science" on Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2009, 1:30-4:30 at the CAFA Theater, USC Talamban Campus. It is open to the public. Anvil will be there to sell all his books including his latest one. Please go there and invite others, too.

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No. Luzon Lumber was built immediately after the war. I do not think it was cheap to buy paint at the time when everything was down and out.

So why build a bridge when there is no river, as it were? hahaahah...

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My God, this forum is becoming is full of me already. I will keep quiet from here on for now. But before I go, please please, all of you, join us for the Ambeth Ocampo lecture on August 11, sponsored by Kabilin Heritage Studies Center and the Department of History.

Then on Thursday, 13 August at 5 o'clock, join us for the inauguration of the new Museo Sugbo galleries, the NHI Museum of Philippine Political History and the National Museum Cebu Branch.
We will also unveil the NHI marker for Carcel de Cebu.

Also, the governor will lead dignitaries in the ceremonial tossing of gold-plated coins at the Well of Wisdom, Love and Good Fortune, also at Museo Sugbo.

Wha... he's gonna hold a lecture here? The books title might be referring to draco rizali, no? I hope I can sweet talk my way into making my boss approve my leave of absence. Hehehe. The new galleries inauguration, markado na. : )

As for the books, I hope they'll also be selling the old ones like Mabini's Ghost, Aguinaldo's Breakfast, etc...

Thanks for all these info, Sir. : )

maayomo

August 3rd, 2009, 06:38 PM

goleyson

August 3rd, 2009, 09:47 PM

Speaking of "bahay-na-bato", I saw one at Mabolo.

It's a few meters away from Persimmon. Hardware ang ga occupy karon.

tindahan og marbles.. along the road. :) naa man gani pa sa unahan sa ho tong bodega and the last time i saw it, for sale na.

goleyson

August 3rd, 2009, 09:47 PM

Taga Bogo

August 4th, 2009, 07:39 AM

My God, this forum is becoming is full of me already. I will keep quiet from here on for now.

Joebers
"I will keep quiet from here on for now" - This is not just the you. :) Besides I am enjoying all the information you had posted. Kana pa bay pangita-on sa libro sa library or researchon sa wilke. Intending this on the positive note - POST ON...

Also, the governor will lead dignitaries in the ceremonial tossing of gold-plated coins at the Well of Wisdom, Love and Good Fortune, also at Museo Sugbo.

By coins, are these more of medals specially intended to commemorate the occassion or these are regular current plated coin issues?

makakuha ka gani ug more than you feel like having, can you reserve some or at least one for me. If it is possible kanang wa pa ma toss. Tossed coins tend to have those nasty dings and dents.

to rephrase a pizza ad "coins and me are bagay na bagay sa isat isa" :)

Taga Bogo

August 4th, 2009, 07:39 AM

archaeologue

August 4th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Wha... he's gonna hold a lecture here? The books title might be referring to draco rizali, no? I hope I can sweet talk my way into making my boss approve my leave of absence. Hehehe. The new galleries inauguration, markado na. : )

As for the books, I hope they'll also be selling the old ones like Mabini's Ghost, Aguinaldo's Breakfast, etc...

Thanks for all these info, Sir. : )

yes, there will be other books there. and yes, i think he is referring to the scientific mind of rizal via his discovery of the draco rizali.

yes, see you there.

archaeologue

August 4th, 2009, 01:14 PM

archaeologue

August 4th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Jobers
"I will keep quiet from here on for now" - This is not just the you. :) Besides I am enjoying all the information you had posted. Kana pa bay pangita-on sa libro sa library or researchon sa wilke. Intending this on the positive note - POST ON...

hahah, thanks for pulling my leg. joke. if you have time, Boy, enroll lagi sa Professional Diploma in Heritage Conservation. Everyone is enjoying the course right now. We open the next trimester in mid-October

By coins, are these more of medals specially intended to commemorate the occassion or these are regular current plated coin issues?

makakuha ka gani ug more than you feel like having, can you reserve some or at least one for me. If it is possible kanang wa pa ma toss. Tossed coins tend to have those nasty dings and dents.

to rephrase a pizza ad "coins and me are bagay na bagay sa isat isa" :)

no, just gold-plated five peso coins. the coins will be retrieved after the tossing to be displayed in the museum---as a come-on for people to drop coins on the well.

incidentally, another well seems to have been discovered within the complex but we will not be excavating it anymore.

see you on August 13 at 5 p.m. ha.

archaeologue

August 4th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Wolfranz

August 4th, 2009, 03:46 PM

Villalon Lecture on Macau Heritage and Conservation
at USC-Talamban

CEBU, Philippines - Augusto F. Villalon, one of the country’s leading experts on heritage conservation, is set to speak at a lecture-forum on “Macau Heritage and Conservation” at the University of San Carlos, Talamban Campus, on August 7. Venue is the College of Architecture and Fine Arts (CAFA) Main Theater at 2:30 PM.

In what is sure to be a fascinating dissertation of Macau, a former Portuguese colony and now a Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China (PROC), Villalon, of A. Villalon Associates, a leading architectural firm, will delve into the past history of Macau, from its early days as a Chinese fishing village and through the years as the meeting place of East and West in commerce and culture, to the present modern cosmopolitan city that it is today.

A meld of the Orient and the Occident, Macau has managed to preserve its uniqueness, not just through its architecture, and the various cultural influences it has been subjected to, making it an amalgam of the two hemispheres its essence has evolved from. How this has been done, both through the Macanese local residents’ welcoming attitude and open-mindedness to all cultural influences, and the Macau Government’s own liberal policies and awareness of the value of tradition and history, will also be part of Villalon’s lecture.

This free lecture is open to the public, especially to Architecture and Fine Arts students, as well as history and tourism buffs, and those interested in the preservation of the past and its relation to the present. An open forum follows the lecture.

A photo exhibit on Macau Architectural Heritage will also be set up at the lobby of the University’s CAFA building and is open to the public starting August 1 to 15.

More information on this lecture is available at telephone 344-3801 local 707.

Wolfranz

August 4th, 2009, 03:46 PM

maayomo

August 4th, 2009, 05:37 PM

tindahan og marbles.. along the road. :) naa man gani pa sa unahan sa ho tong bodega and the last time i saw it, for sale na.

Yeah, I saw the one that's being put up for sale, too. It looks a bit small. Could it be turned into a bachelor's pad? Nah..just a crazy thought. Hehe. If I was some eccentric millionnaire, why the hell not? : )

maayomo

August 4th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Taga Bogo

August 5th, 2009, 08:55 AM

hahah, thanks for pulling my leg. joke. if you have time, Boy, enroll lagi sa Professional Diploma in Heritage Conservation. Everyone is enjoying the course right now. We open the next trimester in mid-October.

enroll... haaaaay how I wish. Unfortunately I can only afford to treat history as added learning. My main source of bread and butter is far far different. Plus the fact that my work entails that I am always on the move. Morag langgaw puwa'g lobot :)

no, just gold-plated five peso coins. the coins will be retrieved after the tossing to be displayed in the museum---as a come-on for people to drop coins on the well.

incidentally, another well seems to have been discovered within the complex but we will not be excavating it anymore.

see you on August 13 at 5 p.m. ha.

Another well, hoy tan-awa basin naay taas buhok na babaye nag puti'g sinina unya mugawas diha inig gabii, mura'g the ring or the grudge movie :)

Was just thinking that perhaps those that will be tossed wil be something commemorative, ergo collectible. Guess I thought wrong. OK never mind saving/reserving na lang for me. Thanks though.

Taga Bogo

August 5th, 2009, 08:55 AM

Animo

August 6th, 2009, 12:23 AM

Hi guys! I am really curious if anyone in here know what happened to the Academia de la Lengua Bisaya organization?

Thank you!

:)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2675/3792789237_be37df8e97_o.jpg

Animo

August 6th, 2009, 12:23 AM

Hi guys! I am really curious if anyone in here know what happened to the Academia de la Lengua Bisaya organization?

Thank you!

:)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2675/3792789237_be37df8e97_o.jpg

gee

August 6th, 2009, 11:10 PM

Hi guys! I am really curious if anyone in here know what happened to the Academia de la Lengua Bisaya organization?

Thank you!

:)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2675/3792789237_be37df8e97_o.jpg

it is Academia de la Lengua Bisaya de Samar y Leyte ... probably devoted only to Waray-waray

recently the so-called "Akademiyang Bisaya" published a 1250 page dictionary.

check this article: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/so-finally-definitive-cebuano-dictionary

gee

August 6th, 2009, 11:10 PM

goleyson

August 7th, 2009, 09:00 AM

Yeah, I saw the one that's being put up for sale, too. It looks a bit small. Could it be turned into a bachelor's pad? Nah..just a crazy thought. Hehe. If I was some eccentric millionnaire, why the hell not? : )

:lol: I had a house mate from pampanga who inherited their ancestral house but found the maintenance cost too high that she had it demolished and replaced it with a smaller one. She said her father must have loved the house so much coz she always dreams of him pointing a gun at her because of what she did. The house was draining their finances and was too big for her and her mother and few househelps. I told her, maybe it was just guilt feelings that caused her nightmares.

Good thing if one also inherits the millions to maintain it or else ancestral houses would look like haunted houses or horror booths.

goleyson

August 7th, 2009, 09:00 AM

maayomo

August 7th, 2009, 03:14 PM

:lol: I had a house mate from pampanga who inherited their ancestral house but found the maintenance cost too high that she had it demolished and replaced it with a smaller one. She said her father must have loved the house so much coz she always dreams of him pointing a gun at her because of what she did. The house was draining their finances and was too big for her and her mother and few househelps. I told her, maybe it was just guilt feelings that caused her nightmares.

Good thing if one also inherits the millions to maintain it or else ancestral houses would look like haunted houses or horror booths.

...or a used as a display area for assorted antique stuff which don't have anything to do with the house. Hehe. :)

Sir, maybe those are indeed just guilt feelings. Because if your friend emptied the family coffers just to maintain the house, then her father, in her dream, might be pointing to her a howitzer. Hehehe. :) Hinuon gyud pud, what a waste. But I'm pretty sure your friend gave it a lot of thought.

Bitaw, Sir, in my opinion, sometimes we are so much into the stuff that we are passionate about, that we lose sight of the bigger picture. :)

maayomo

August 7th, 2009, 03:14 PM

archaeologue

August 7th, 2009, 03:56 PM

archaeologue

August 7th, 2009, 03:56 PM

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 01:19 AM

Speaking of "bahay-na-bato", I saw one at Mabolo.

It's a few meters away from Persimmon. Hardware ang ga occupy karon.

bai nold, the owner (macasero family) allowed me to document the house,
anybody interested?

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 01:19 AM

Ang Karaang Tawo

August 8th, 2009, 08:41 AM

bai nold, the owner (macasero family) allowed me to document the house,
anybody interested?

Interested in what? To see the house? to see your documentation? Or to buy the house?:lol: Bitaw, how wonderful to afford to buy a bahay na bato. Or even an American period house. Most of the people living in such structures do not deserve to live in them. I could just cry.

Aren't you in class?

Ang Karaang Tawo

August 8th, 2009, 08:41 AM

maayomo

August 8th, 2009, 10:15 AM

bai nold, the owner (macasero family) allowed me to document the house,
anybody interested?

sir, would it be okay if i tag along to take some photos? i'd really love to. :)

maayomo

August 8th, 2009, 10:15 AM

bai nold, the owner (macasero family) allowed me to document the house,
anybody interested?

sir, would it be okay if i tag along to take some photos? i'd really love to. :)

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 12:53 PM

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 12:53 PM

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 12:57 PM

sir, would it be okay if i tag along to take some photos? i'd really love to. :)

I plan to go there next saturday morning. let's keep in touch...

and btw, i heard just today that the old stairs was bought by the owner
of that "museum" with a boat hanging below the window...

sanvalente

August 8th, 2009, 12:57 PM

archaeologue

August 8th, 2009, 04:16 PM

I plan to go there next saturday morning. let's keep in touch...

and btw, i heard just today that the old stairs was bought by the owner
of that "museum" with a boat hanging below the window...

ahh, the pretensions of being a heritage advocate---only to get old and antique things in order to sell them...so that is what this "museum" owner thinks about heritage preservation: buy parts of old houses and sell them to different owners so that they get preserved! tsk3x...

archaeologue

August 8th, 2009, 04:16 PM

maayomo

August 8th, 2009, 04:36 PM

maayomo

August 8th, 2009, 04:36 PM

goleyson

August 9th, 2009, 07:42 PM

Interested in what? To see the house? to see your documentation? Or to buy the house?:lol: Bitaw, how wonderful to afford to buy a bahay na bato. Or even an American period house. Most of the people living in such structures do not deserve to live in them. I could just cry.

Aren't you in class?

Maybe they don't have the resources anymore to maintain it. Many families experienced sudden twist of fortune after the war as they say. :ohno:

In Negros and Ilo-ilo, the homes of the rice and sugar barons are still in their best state, after all the haciendas came back to life again after the war providing the much needed cash flow for their upkeep.

goleyson

August 9th, 2009, 07:42 PM

goleyson

August 9th, 2009, 08:14 PM

ahh, the pretensions of being a heritage advocate---only to get old and antique things in order to sell them...so that is what this "museum" owner thinks about heritage preservation: buy parts of old houses and sell them to different owners so that they get preserved! tsk3x...

Reaching as far as Manila :nuts: to the delight of the collectors. haayyyyy.

IMO, ancestral houses or religious houses turned museums should evoke or show a period lifestyle and should speak of the owners or dwellers. The last time I was home, I dropped by the cathedral museum and had talked with the lady in charge at the counter who happens to be a friend's mom, she gladly showed me those bones etc. At the back of my mind I was laughing, amazed that bukog sa baboy etc would make a museum piece. And then I later on realized that though those were just bukogs and bu-ak nga botelya but it gave me a glimpse on what the frayles or padres who lived in the convent then were eating.

As to the Yap Sandiego House, i guess they should rethink on the usage of the term museum. The word gallery would be just fine.

goleyson

August 9th, 2009, 08:14 PM