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LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Old Arzobispado
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109002.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Old Arzobispado
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109002.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:50 PM
CASA REAL
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109006.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:50 PM
CASA REAL
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109006.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:52 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/banners/cebu_heritage03.jpg


Previous Thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=390279

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:52 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/banners/cebu_heritage03.jpg


Previous Thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=390279

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Old Cebu Cathedral
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109012.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Old Cebu Cathedral
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/70109012.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:54 PM
Legazpi Monument
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/legaspi_monument02.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:54 PM
Legazpi Monument
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/legaspi_monument02.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:59 PM
TAOIST TEMPLE

- Located at Beverly Hills, Cebu City. This temple preserves the teachings of Lao-Tse, the 600 B.C. Chinese philosopher. Everyday people climb its 81 steps (representing the 81 chapters of Taoism scriptures) to light joss sticks and have their fortune read.


Entrance
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple01.jpg


One of the many temples in the compound
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple02.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple19.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple22.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple26.jpg


Gate
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple16.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple09.jpg


Main temple
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple20.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 02:59 PM
TAOIST TEMPLE

- Located at Beverly Hills, Cebu City. This temple preserves the teachings of Lao-Tse, the 600 B.C. Chinese philosopher. Everyday people climb its 81 steps (representing the 81 chapters of Taoism scriptures) to light joss sticks and have their fortune read.


Entrance
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple01.jpg


One of the many temples in the compound
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple02.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple19.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple22.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple26.jpg


Gate
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple16.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple09.jpg


Main temple
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/TaoistTemple/taoist_temple20.jpg

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:09 PM
P R E W A R | C E B U


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1439/downtownuntitled1jn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:09 PM
P R E W A R | C E B U


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1439/downtownuntitled1jn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:12 PM
^^

Sus dugay na ko nangita ani, hehehe.. thanks bai. I'll make some labels..

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:12 PM
^^

Sus dugay na ko nangita ani, hehehe.. thanks bai. I'll make some labels..

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM
D O W N T O W N | C E B U C I T Y


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00631copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00630copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00632copy.jpg



http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00636copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00638copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00639copy.jpg





http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM
D O W N T O W N | C E B U C I T Y


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00631copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00630copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00632copy.jpg



http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00636copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00638copy.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c145/MarkiiBoi2/DSC00639copy.jpg





http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:20 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I hope I got the labels right.

Notice that Cebu City Hall was not constructed yet.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/oldcebu.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:20 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I hope I got the labels right.

Notice that Cebu City Hall was not constructed yet.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/oldcebu.jpg

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:26 PM
^^

and to think all those buildings are still existent today, although some are ill-preserved.




http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:26 PM
^^

and to think all those buildings are still existent today, although some are ill-preserved.




http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:28 PM
^^

More labels added...

....And I didn't know that Colegio del Santo Niņo is more than 50 years old already. At first I thought it was built in the 50s-60s :okay:

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:28 PM
^^

More labels added...

....And I didn't know that Colegio del Santo Niņo is more than 50 years old already. At first I thought it was built in the 50s-60s :okay:

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:32 PM
^^

but where is the kiosk of Magellan's Cross bai?




http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

MarkiiBoi
January 30th, 2007, 03:32 PM
^^

but where is the kiosk of Magellan's Cross bai?




http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7010/markiiblacksiggyjg0.png

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:38 PM
^^

Wa pa cguro na plant ni Magellan ang cross? :lol:

I think naa ra diha sa dark portion bai, obscured cguro..

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:38 PM
^^

Wa pa cguro na plant ni Magellan ang cross? :lol:

I think naa ra diha sa dark portion bai, obscured cguro..

flesh_is_weak
January 30th, 2007, 03:40 PM
unsa pud nang white structure between BPI/Basilica and the Cathedral?

nindot lagi ang BPI building, mura ug greek temple...

flesh_is_weak
January 30th, 2007, 03:40 PM
unsa pud nang white structure between BPI/Basilica and the Cathedral?

nindot lagi ang BPI building, mura ug greek temple...

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:52 PM
THEN....

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/oldcebu.jpg


NOW...

Compania Maritima, Aduana, and some old Warehouses
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/malacanang03.jpg


The former Aduana or Customs House
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/malacanang01.jpg


Prudential Bank and Trust Co.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/02prudentialbank.jpg


Colegio del Santo Niņo
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/04magellanscrosspark.jpg


Magellan's Cross and Colegio del Santo Niņo (behind)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/magellan_cross_renovation10.jpg


old MCWD Building, now MC Square
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/mcwd_building_renovated01.jpg


GoTiaoco Building
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/go_tia_co_building01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/go_tia_co_building03.jpg


Bank of the Philippine Islands
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/15bpi.jpg


MC Square and the old warehouses
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/10tomalacanang.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 03:52 PM
THEN....

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/oldcebu.jpg


NOW...

Compania Maritima, Aduana, and some old Warehouses
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/malacanang03.jpg


The former Aduana or Customs House
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/malacanang01.jpg


Prudential Bank and Trust Co.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/02prudentialbank.jpg


Colegio del Santo Niņo
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/04magellanscrosspark.jpg


Magellan's Cross and Colegio del Santo Niņo (behind)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/magellan_cross_renovation10.jpg


old MCWD Building, now MC Square
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/mcwd_building_renovated01.jpg


GoTiaoco Building
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/go_tia_co_building01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/go_tia_co_building03.jpg


Bank of the Philippine Islands
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/15bpi.jpg


MC Square and the old warehouses
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/cityhall/10tomalacanang.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
BEFORE

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizal_museum_renovation01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizal_museum_renovation02.jpg


AFTER

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum05.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum02.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum03.jpg

LordCarnal
January 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
BEFORE

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizal_museum_renovation01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizal_museum_renovation02.jpg


AFTER

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum05.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum02.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/rizalmuseum03.jpg

Ang_Bantayanon
January 31st, 2007, 02:39 AM
@arnold_carl,

damo nga salamat bai. oo, taga bantayan ko but i am 100% cebuano pud. i hope there are other bantayanons here as well. will post fotos of heritage monuments of bantayan here soon like the bantayan church (one of the oldest parishes in the Philippines, established in 1580 and the oldest in Cebu) and some vanishing forts and houses (bantayan sa hari).

@kentaro, damo nga salamat.

Ang_Bantayanon
January 31st, 2007, 02:39 AM
@arnold_carl,

damo nga salamat bai. oo, taga bantayan ko but i am 100% cebuano pud. i hope there are other bantayanons here as well. will post fotos of heritage monuments of bantayan here soon like the bantayan church (one of the oldest parishes in the Philippines, established in 1580 and the oldest in Cebu) and some vanishing forts and houses (bantayan sa hari).

@kentaro, damo nga salamat.

LordCarnal
January 31st, 2007, 02:40 AM
^^

Thanks, please post them at the new Cebu Heritage Walk thread 4...

This thread is already full since it has reached 500 posts..

LordCarnal
January 31st, 2007, 02:40 AM
^^

Thanks, please post them at the new Cebu Heritage Walk thread 4...

This thread is already full since it has reached 500 posts..

Ang_Bantayanon
January 31st, 2007, 02:57 AM
ECCE HOMO - a bust of Christ; one of the images given by Magellan, along with the image of the Santo Niņo de Cebu, to the chieftain of Cebu. The original image of the Ecce Homo is in a museum in Intramuros, Manila.

The Ecce Homo was discovered after a Spanish soldier in the late 16th century uncovered a burial of a certain Rajah Carli (who was believed to be Rajah Humabon). The corpse, which was intact, was holding a cross. The Ecce Homo was also with him.


Photo below:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/P1090834.jpg

The image of the Ecce Homo was brought to the San Agustin Church in Manila in 1965 but it was never returned back to Cebu, this is according to an Agugustinian friend based in the basilica minore.

I visited San Agustin Museum a few days ago and they have an image Ecce Homo there but I seriously doubt if it is the original image.

It would be good if the image, if it is still in Manila, be repatriated back to Cebu where it truly belongs. :banana:

Ang_Bantayanon
January 31st, 2007, 02:57 AM
ECCE HOMO - a bust of Christ; one of the images given by Magellan, along with the image of the Santo Niņo de Cebu, to the chieftain of Cebu. The original image of the Ecce Homo is in a museum in Intramuros, Manila.

The Ecce Homo was discovered after a Spanish soldier in the late 16th century uncovered a burial of a certain Rajah Carli (who was believed to be Rajah Humabon). The corpse, which was intact, was holding a cross. The Ecce Homo was also with him.


Photo below:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/P1090834.jpg

The image of the Ecce Homo was brought to the San Agustin Church in Manila in 1965 but it was never returned back to Cebu, this is according to an Agugustinian friend based in the basilica minore.

I visited San Agustin Museum a few days ago and they have an image Ecce Homo there but I seriously doubt if it is the original image.

It would be good if the image, if it is still in Manila, be repatriated back to Cebu where it truly belongs. :banana:

LordCarnal
January 31st, 2007, 03:04 AM
double post.

LordCarnal
January 31st, 2007, 03:04 AM
double post.

Gibb
January 31st, 2007, 03:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa32.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa36.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa40.jpg

Gibb
January 31st, 2007, 03:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa32.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa36.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/BalaynaTisa40.jpg

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 02:22 AM
hi im a travel photographer and a newbie here.

ill be sharing photos of sites (heritage and travel oriented) with minimal descriptions as im not much into the study of such places. hope you enjoy the photos:

cebu malacaņang

front
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/malacanang.jpg

back
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/malacanang2.jpg

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 02:22 AM
hi im a travel photographer and a newbie here.

ill be sharing photos of sites (heritage and travel oriented) with minimal descriptions as im not much into the study of such places. hope you enjoy the photos:

cebu malacaņang

front
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/malacanang.jpg

back
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/malacanang2.jpg

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 02:24 AM
black and white

liloan coral stone watchtower
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/oldwatchtower.jpg

carcar church
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/santo.jpg

liloan lighthouse
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/liloanlighthouse2.jpg

u.p. cebu
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/oblation.jpg

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 02:24 AM
black and white

liloan coral stone watchtower
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/oldwatchtower.jpg

carcar church
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/santo.jpg

liloan lighthouse
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/liloanlighthouse2.jpg

u.p. cebu
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/oblation.jpg

Gibb
February 1st, 2007, 02:34 AM
@adjong, wonderful set of photos you have there...love it! welcome too!

Gibb
February 1st, 2007, 02:34 AM
@adjong, wonderful set of photos you have there...love it! welcome too!

LordCarnal
February 1st, 2007, 03:03 AM
^^

Thanks for the photos adjong.. :okay:

LordCarnal
February 1st, 2007, 03:03 AM
^^

Thanks for the photos adjong.. :okay:

leylander
February 1st, 2007, 03:16 AM
@carl, @kentaro, @adjong

^^wow! kanindot sa pics. thanks

leylander
February 1st, 2007, 03:16 AM
@carl, @kentaro, @adjong

^^wow! kanindot sa pics. thanks

j-pol
February 1st, 2007, 08:01 AM
welcome adjong! and great pics by the way!:) feel free to post here. and don't hesitate to post a lot more photos.

j-pol
February 1st, 2007, 08:01 AM
welcome adjong! and great pics by the way!:) feel free to post here. and don't hesitate to post a lot more photos.

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 03:24 PM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

adjong
February 1st, 2007, 03:24 PM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

southernbelle
February 1st, 2007, 04:09 PM
Beautiful pictures!!! Keep it coming mga SSC pipol!

@adjong, thanks very much for showcasing Cebu! :)

southernbelle
February 1st, 2007, 04:09 PM
Beautiful pictures!!! Keep it coming mga SSC pipol!

@adjong, thanks very much for showcasing Cebu! :)

j-pol
February 1st, 2007, 05:33 PM
adjong, i really admire your work. i'm an aspiring photographer...yet to get myself a dslr. nice pics of cebu!:)

j-pol
February 1st, 2007, 05:33 PM
adjong, i really admire your work. i'm an aspiring photographer...yet to get myself a dslr. nice pics of cebu!:)

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 01:38 AM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

@adjong, were thes pictures used in the carousel route decor last sinulog? csome of the pictures here look familiar.

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 01:38 AM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

@adjong, were thes pictures used in the carousel route decor last sinulog? csome of the pictures here look familiar.

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 02:30 AM
CARCAR City picture feature

old pics taken 1 year ago (Feb 02, 2006) during the SSC-Cebu Carcar visit.


http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/CARCAR.jpg (http://xs.to)

The Church of St. Catherine of Alexandria
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch1.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch2.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch3.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch4.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch5.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch6.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch7.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch8.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch9.jpg (http://xs.to)

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 02:30 AM
CARCAR City picture feature

old pics taken 1 year ago (Feb 02, 2006) during the SSC-Cebu Carcar visit.


http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/CARCAR.jpg (http://xs.to)

The Church of St. Catherine of Alexandria
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch1.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch2.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch3.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch4.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch5.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch6.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch7.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch8.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carchrch9.jpg (http://xs.to)

adjong
February 2nd, 2007, 02:49 AM
@kentaro

yes. donated those to the city and province last year. this year somebody else did the carousel

adjong
February 2nd, 2007, 02:49 AM
@kentaro

yes. donated those to the city and province last year. this year somebody else did the carousel

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 02:59 AM
@kentaro

yes. donated those to the city and province last year. this year somebody else did the carousel

your sets are all nice. hope you can teach me. hehehe.

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 02:59 AM
@kentaro

yes. donated those to the city and province last year. this year somebody else did the carousel

your sets are all nice. hope you can teach me. hehehe.

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 03:56 AM
CARCAR City picture feature

old pictures taken 1 year ago (Feb 02, 2006) during the SSC-Cebu Carcar visit.


http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/CARCAR.jpg (http://xs.to)

Some of Carcar's heritage houses
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carhert1.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu2.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu3.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu4.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu5.jpg

Gaisano Carcar
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/GaisanoCar2.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/LKilat.jpg[

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/StCatherine3.jpg

St. Catherine school students with SSC-Cebu
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/St.Catherine23.jpg

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 03:56 AM
CARCAR City picture feature

old pictures taken 1 year ago (Feb 02, 2006) during the SSC-Cebu Carcar visit.


http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/CARCAR.jpg (http://xs.to)

Some of Carcar's heritage houses
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carhert1.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu2.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu3.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu4.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/carmonu5.jpg

Gaisano Carcar
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/GaisanoCar2.jpg

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/LKilat.jpg[

http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/StCatherine3.jpg

St. Catherine school students with SSC-Cebu
http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07055/St.Catherine23.jpg

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 04:23 AM
^^ mag trip nya ta bai sa Carcar. Para new pictures na sad. hehehe.

Gibb
February 2nd, 2007, 04:23 AM
^^ mag trip nya ta bai sa Carcar. Para new pictures na sad. hehehe.

gee
February 2nd, 2007, 06:10 AM
^^ basin gusto mo derecho ug boljoon. see article below....


Dig Boljoon

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 12:02pm (Mla time) 02/02/2007

AFTER the planning and execution of Boljoon Parish Museum exhibits in November last year, I’ll return next week to this charmingly serene but picturesque town located in southeastern Cebu with a team from the National Museum. There we shall spend the next three weeks excavating the church grounds in search of evidence of Cebu’s past.

Boljoon is an ideal place to excavate because, like most extant colonial stone church complexes in the country, no looter or treasure hunter has set foot on its hallowed grounds – well, except for the unscrupulous who stole many of the ivory and wooden images and the silver liturgical artifacts inside the church in the immediate past.

The church itself was built from the ashes of the old one that was burned by Moro raiders in 1782. Extant records show that the Augustinian missionaries first established an ermita or chapel here around 1599, and created the poblacion of Bolhoon (note its original spelling with an “h”) in 1606, some two years ahead of Argao.

Bolhoon is, of course, famous for the Spanish missionary Fray Julian Bermejo, who almost single-handedly rallied southern Cebu, Siquijor, and southeastern Negros in defense against Moro raids between 1800 and 1850. I surmise that there must have been a settlement here large enough to merit the attention of missionaries some 34 years after Legaspi laid anchor near present-day San Nicolas. These pioneer missionaries had come from the newly-designated vicariate of Carcar (then located in Sialo).

Since there are no known missionary reports of the reconcentracion (or forced resettlement/clustering) of residents to form the poblacion of Bolhoon, a practice the Spanish later on resorted to for better colonial management, it may be safe to assume that the settlement here existed even before the Spanish conquest. Our task is to find evidence of this under the ground.

Funded by the University of San Carlos, through the Department of Sociology and Anthropology, the excavations form part of an international training program that will bring six anthropology and one history faculty members to Larenstein University of Professional Education, The Netherlands, to learn the use of geographic information systems in archaeology.

This initial salvo, as it were, provides the wherewithal for some of these trainees to learn techniques in archaeological excavations and artifact analysis practiced by government archaeologists in the country, as against those currently obtaining in Europe. Other than these trainees are 12 students enrolled in the cultural anthropology course I am handling this semester who will join the team for four days to learn how anthropological theories are used in analyzing artifacts.

Because Boljoon Church or, more formally, the Church of the Nuestra Seņora Virgen del Patrocinio, is a National Cultural Treasure, this archaeological study will also help shed light on the early colonial life of one of the 24 gems of Fil-Hispanic colonial church architecture, perhaps even providing trace evidence of the burned wooden church that preceded the present one.

I thank the Cebu Archdiocesan Commission for the Cultural Heritage of the Church, headed by Fr. Carlito Pono, and of the parish priest, Fr. Sofronio de la Peņa, as well as the custodians of the church, the Boljoon Heritage Foundation Inc., through its president, Edmund Villanueva, and the local government of Boljoon, headed by Mayor Deogenes Derama, for the permission and support in carrying out this study. Of course, I cannot discount the collaboration and liaising activities done by the Cebu Provincial Committee on Sites, Relics and Structures, through its secretariat, headed by Ms. Cristeta Zosa prior to and during the conduct of this study.

If anyone is interested to drop by Boljoon to join the dig or to simply watch the conduct of the excavations (from Monday to Saturday), please feel free to contact me through my email address in this column. Let’s dig Boljoon!

gee
February 2nd, 2007, 06:10 AM
^^ basin gusto mo derecho ug boljoon. see article below....


Dig Boljoon

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 12:02pm (Mla time) 02/02/2007

AFTER the planning and execution of Boljoon Parish Museum exhibits in November last year, I’ll return next week to this charmingly serene but picturesque town located in southeastern Cebu with a team from the National Museum. There we shall spend the next three weeks excavating the church grounds in search of evidence of Cebu’s past.

Boljoon is an ideal place to excavate because, like most extant colonial stone church complexes in the country, no looter or treasure hunter has set foot on its hallowed grounds – well, except for the unscrupulous who stole many of the ivory and wooden images and the silver liturgical artifacts inside the church in the immediate past.

The church itself was built from the ashes of the old one that was burned by Moro raiders in 1782. Extant records show that the Augustinian missionaries first established an ermita or chapel here around 1599, and created the poblacion of Bolhoon (note its original spelling with an “h”) in 1606, some two years ahead of Argao.

Bolhoon is, of course, famous for the Spanish missionary Fray Julian Bermejo, who almost single-handedly rallied southern Cebu, Siquijor, and southeastern Negros in defense against Moro raids between 1800 and 1850. I surmise that there must have been a settlement here large enough to merit the attention of missionaries some 34 years after Legaspi laid anchor near present-day San Nicolas. These pioneer missionaries had come from the newly-designated vicariate of Carcar (then located in Sialo).

Since there are no known missionary reports of the reconcentracion (or forced resettlement/clustering) of residents to form the poblacion of Bolhoon, a practice the Spanish later on resorted to for better colonial management, it may be safe to assume that the settlement here existed even before the Spanish conquest. Our task is to find evidence of this under the ground.

Funded by the University of San Carlos, through the Department of Sociology and Anthropology, the excavations form part of an international training program that will bring six anthropology and one history faculty members to Larenstein University of Professional Education, The Netherlands, to learn the use of geographic information systems in archaeology.

This initial salvo, as it were, provides the wherewithal for some of these trainees to learn techniques in archaeological excavations and artifact analysis practiced by government archaeologists in the country, as against those currently obtaining in Europe. Other than these trainees are 12 students enrolled in the cultural anthropology course I am handling this semester who will join the team for four days to learn how anthropological theories are used in analyzing artifacts.

Because Boljoon Church or, more formally, the Church of the Nuestra Seņora Virgen del Patrocinio, is a National Cultural Treasure, this archaeological study will also help shed light on the early colonial life of one of the 24 gems of Fil-Hispanic colonial church architecture, perhaps even providing trace evidence of the burned wooden church that preceded the present one.

I thank the Cebu Archdiocesan Commission for the Cultural Heritage of the Church, headed by Fr. Carlito Pono, and of the parish priest, Fr. Sofronio de la Peņa, as well as the custodians of the church, the Boljoon Heritage Foundation Inc., through its president, Edmund Villanueva, and the local government of Boljoon, headed by Mayor Deogenes Derama, for the permission and support in carrying out this study. Of course, I cannot discount the collaboration and liaising activities done by the Cebu Provincial Committee on Sites, Relics and Structures, through its secretariat, headed by Ms. Cristeta Zosa prior to and during the conduct of this study.

If anyone is interested to drop by Boljoon to join the dig or to simply watch the conduct of the excavations (from Monday to Saturday), please feel free to contact me through my email address in this column. Let’s dig Boljoon!

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 06:21 AM
^^ mag trip nya ta bai sa Carcar. Para new pictures na sad. hehehe.

Yup bai, adto gyud ko...hehe

slerz
February 2nd, 2007, 06:21 AM
^^ mag trip nya ta bai sa Carcar. Para new pictures na sad. hehehe.

Yup bai, adto gyud ko...hehe

LordCarnal
February 2nd, 2007, 12:11 PM
Gee, what's the email address of Joeber Bersales? I might join the dig kay wala koy trabaho karon..

LordCarnal
February 2nd, 2007, 12:11 PM
Gee, what's the email address of Joeber Bersales? I might join the dig kay wala koy trabaho karon..

gee
February 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM
^^ wa man koy nakit-an nga email add sa inquirer. pero sa usc website mao ni information gihatag unsa-on pagcontact niya

Jose Eleazar Bersales, MA Phil Stud
Professor and Chair, Department of Sociology and Anthropology

Mailing address:
Department of Sociology and Anthropology
University of San Carlos
P. del Rosario St.
6000 Cebu City, Philippines

Telephone number:
(+63 32) 253 1000 local 196

Email: soandept@usc.edu.ph

gee
February 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM
^^ wa man koy nakit-an nga email add sa inquirer. pero sa usc website mao ni information gihatag unsa-on pagcontact niya

Jose Eleazar Bersales, MA Phil Stud
Professor and Chair, Department of Sociology and Anthropology

Mailing address:
Department of Sociology and Anthropology
University of San Carlos
P. del Rosario St.
6000 Cebu City, Philippines

Telephone number:
(+63 32) 253 1000 local 196

Email: soandept@usc.edu.ph

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 01:40 AM
BANTAYAN CHURCH

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0390.jpg
(Below are the inscriptions)

ANG SIMBAHAN NG BANTAYAN

Ang simbahang ito na inialay sa Nuestra Seņora de la Asuncion ay ipinatayo ng mga Paring Agustino noong ika-? ng Hunyo 1580. Pagkaraan, naging patron ng simbahan si San Pedro Apostol at lumawak ang sakop ng parokya hanggang sa Maripipi, Panamao at Limangcawayan sa Leyte. Sinunog ng mga mananalakay na Muslim noong 1600. Ito ay muling ipinatayo noong taon ding iyon at inilipat sa pamamahala ng mga sekular.

Ang kasalukuyang gusali ay sinimulang gawin noong 1839 at natapos noong 1863.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0412.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0389.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0411.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0393.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0401.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0396.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0400.jpg

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 01:40 AM
BANTAYAN CHURCH

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0390.jpg
(Below are the inscriptions)

ANG SIMBAHAN NG BANTAYAN

Ang simbahang ito na inialay sa Nuestra Seņora de la Asuncion ay ipinatayo ng mga Paring Agustino noong ika-? ng Hunyo 1580. Pagkaraan, naging patron ng simbahan si San Pedro Apostol at lumawak ang sakop ng parokya hanggang sa Maripipi, Panamao at Limangcawayan sa Leyte. Sinunog ng mga mananalakay na Muslim noong 1600. Ito ay muling ipinatayo noong taon ding iyon at inilipat sa pamamahala ng mga sekular.

Ang kasalukuyang gusali ay sinimulang gawin noong 1839 at natapos noong 1863.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0412.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0389.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0411.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0393.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0401.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0396.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/vatics0916/IMG_0400.jpg

flesh_is_weak
February 3rd, 2007, 02:11 PM
for those who frequent the Basilica del Sto. Nino (the Minore title has been dropped some time ago) and who like me, keep wondering who those saints are enshrined in the retablo together with the Nino, wonder no more...coz i finally found an answer...and it was right under my nose...

once you enter the church via the designated entrance, you'd see this area beside the courtyard that contains a life-size depiction of the Crucifixion, located in that same room, is a replica of the Ecce Homo--although not a lot of devotees come to venerate it, considering its small size and obscure background, BUT, as mentioned earlier in this thread, it came together (the original image) with the Nino to Cebu--and beside this replica, is a painting that most visitors tend to snub...

it took a group of koreans for me to notice and pay attention to this little known painting, since as i was walking around the place, i noticed this group of korean tourists who were in the act of venerating--kissing--the painting...driven by curiousity, i approached the painting when they left, and 'discovered' that aside from being a painting of the retablo, it contained relics of the saints that are enshrined in the retablo, replete with name labels...

thus the next time you go to Sto. Nino and wonder who those people standing in the altar are, drop by that little painting and you'll have your answer...

since i dont have a very good memory, i only memorized the top three: (L-R) St. Clare of Montefalco, St. Augustine, St. Rita of Cascia...

St. Monica is enshrined at the rightmost side of the bottom tier, and St. Nicolas of Tolentino is second to the left at the same tier...St. Thomas of Villanova is the one standing to the right of the Sto. Nino...

flesh_is_weak
February 3rd, 2007, 02:11 PM
for those who frequent the Basilica del Sto. Nino (the Minore title has been dropped some time ago) and who like me, keep wondering who those saints are enshrined in the retablo together with the Nino, wonder no more...coz i finally found an answer...and it was right under my nose...

once you enter the church via the designated entrance, you'd see this area beside the courtyard that contains a life-size depiction of the Crucifixion, located in that same room, is a replica of the Ecce Homo--although not a lot of devotees come to venerate it, considering its small size and obscure background, BUT, as mentioned earlier in this thread, it came together (the original image) with the Nino to Cebu--and beside this replica, is a painting that most visitors tend to snub...

it took a group of koreans for me to notice and pay attention to this little known painting, since as i was walking around the place, i noticed this group of korean tourists who were in the act of venerating--kissing--the painting...driven by curiousity, i approached the painting when they left, and 'discovered' that aside from being a painting of the retablo, it contained relics of the saints that are enshrined in the retablo, replete with name labels...

thus the next time you go to Sto. Nino and wonder who those people standing in the altar are, drop by that little painting and you'll have your answer...

since i dont have a very good memory, i only memorized the top three: (L-R) St. Clare of Montefalco, St. Augustine, St. Rita of Cascia...

St. Monica is enshrined at the rightmost side of the bottom tier, and St. Nicolas of Tolentino is second to the left at the same tier...St. Thomas of Villanova is the one standing to the right of the Sto. Nino...

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:22 PM
@gee and arnold carl, jojo bersales' email add is: kyutngasawa@yahoo.com.

@vatics, nice pix on bantayan church.. got pix taken from bantayan belfry and its famed pasos (holy week processions).

@pirena, yes the painting is doubly significant because of the relics of augustinian saints & beati. one can actually venerate the saints there. i learned that the cathedral museum of cebu will soon expose saints' relics which compose not only augustinians, but also franciscans, carmelites and some apostles. huwathuwat lang ta.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:22 PM
@gee and arnold carl, jojo bersales' email add is: kyutngasawa@yahoo.com.

@vatics, nice pix on bantayan church.. got pix taken from bantayan belfry and its famed pasos (holy week processions).

@pirena, yes the painting is doubly significant because of the relics of augustinian saints & beati. one can actually venerate the saints there. i learned that the cathedral museum of cebu will soon expose saints' relics which compose not only augustinians, but also franciscans, carmelites and some apostles. huwathuwat lang ta.

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 02:33 PM
^^ i lost my pix of the bantayan pasos & procession pero lenten season is a few months from now. i'll make sure to have new sets of pix. i wonder if we can take fotos of the 'famous' papal bull document exempting bantayan island's people from eating meat [during lenten season]. do you have contacts?

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 02:33 PM
^^ i lost my pix of the bantayan pasos & procession pero lenten season is a few months from now. i'll make sure to have new sets of pix. i wonder if we can take fotos of the 'famous' papal bull document exempting bantayan island's people from eating meat [during lenten season]. do you have contacts?

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:42 PM
@vatics, you can approach the curator of the Bantayan Parish Museum for permission to take a photo of the indult. but as i heard, there'll be news about the indult soon.. i just dont know what kind of announcement would that be.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:42 PM
@vatics, you can approach the curator of the Bantayan Parish Museum for permission to take a photo of the indult. but as i heard, there'll be news about the indult soon.. i just dont know what kind of announcement would that be.

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 02:47 PM
@bantayanon: thanks for the advice. where's the museum located? it seems nobody is going to that museum or i haven't notice there is one in bantayan.

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 02:47 PM
@bantayanon: thanks for the advice. where's the museum located? it seems nobody is going to that museum or i haven't notice there is one in bantayan.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:52 PM
yes, there is now a museum in bantayan -- it was opened in 2005 during the 425th celebration of the founding of the Convento de la Asuncion de Nuestra Seņora, the forerunner of the parish of Saint Peter of Bantayan. the museum is rarely opened though but i bet it will be open during the holy week. it is located in the old bantayan parish rectory. it contains what has been left of bantayan's rich ecclesiastical treasures. don't fail to see it.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 02:52 PM
yes, there is now a museum in bantayan -- it was opened in 2005 during the 425th celebration of the founding of the Convento de la Asuncion de Nuestra Seņora, the forerunner of the parish of Saint Peter of Bantayan. the museum is rarely opened though but i bet it will be open during the holy week. it is located in the old bantayan parish rectory. it contains what has been left of bantayan's rich ecclesiastical treasures. don't fail to see it.

flesh_is_weak
February 3rd, 2007, 02:57 PM
@vatics, you can approach the curator of the Bantayan Parish Museum for permission to take a photo of the indult. but as i heard, there'll be news about the indult soon.. i just dont know what kind of announcement would that be.

just a theory: maybe they'll impose excommunication to non-bantayanons who eat pork during holy week there at bantayan...or perhaps make eating pork on holy week at bantayan a mortal sin for those who are not natives of the island...

i remember an editorial on a local tabloid lambasting bantayan and the bantayanons for eating pork during lent, clearly, the writer wasnt educated about the special priviledge given to bantayan...

flesh_is_weak
February 3rd, 2007, 02:57 PM
@vatics, you can approach the curator of the Bantayan Parish Museum for permission to take a photo of the indult. but as i heard, there'll be news about the indult soon.. i just dont know what kind of announcement would that be.

just a theory: maybe they'll impose excommunication to non-bantayanons who eat pork during holy week there at bantayan...or perhaps make eating pork on holy week at bantayan a mortal sin for those who are not natives of the island...

i remember an editorial on a local tabloid lambasting bantayan and the bantayanons for eating pork during lent, clearly, the writer wasnt educated about the special priviledge given to bantayan...

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 03:11 PM
thanks pirena. i really don't know. my friend wouldn't elaborate.

dili pud na sakto nga i-lambast ang mga presentday bantayanons over the issue because we don't know anything about that tradition basta gisunod na lang na namo, although i must say nga gamay ra man pud sa tinuod nga bantayanon ang mokaon og karne sa semana santa. majority of the bantayanons refrain from eating meat. but if critics insist, then basin nasuya lang sila, sila na lay magbantayanon. joke lang!

Ang_Bantayanon
February 3rd, 2007, 03:11 PM
thanks pirena. i really don't know. my friend wouldn't elaborate.

dili pud na sakto nga i-lambast ang mga presentday bantayanons over the issue because we don't know anything about that tradition basta gisunod na lang na namo, although i must say nga gamay ra man pud sa tinuod nga bantayanon ang mokaon og karne sa semana santa. majority of the bantayanons refrain from eating meat. but if critics insist, then basin nasuya lang sila, sila na lay magbantayanon. joke lang!

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 04:31 PM
@pirena:

Based on an article I read before, the reason why Bantayanons got exempted from eating pork meat was the shortage of fishes during lenten season in the Spanish period. The food shortage resulted into an alarming crisis as no fisherfolk would set sail and catch fishes for the island's food supply during the lenten season as an alternative to pork meat.

Bantayanons, being pious & devout Catholics, strictly abstained eating pork meat despite the fish food supply shortage. Older folks felt weak and others were rushed to hospitals due to deteriorating health.

The Catholic Church was alarmed about the Bantayanons strict observance of the Lenten Season that it sought the help of the Archdiocese and later reached the Vatican.

Seeing the need to continue the pious practice of Lent by Bantayanons and preserve the influence of the Church without affecting the people's devotion and observance of Christ's suffering during Lent, the Pope issued the papal bull giving the Bantayanons a privilege to eat pork meat during Lenten season to address the food shortage.

vatics
February 3rd, 2007, 04:31 PM
@pirena:

Based on an article I read before, the reason why Bantayanons got exempted from eating pork meat was the shortage of fishes during lenten season in the Spanish period. The food shortage resulted into an alarming crisis as no fisherfolk would set sail and catch fishes for the island's food supply during the lenten season as an alternative to pork meat.

Bantayanons, being pious & devout Catholics, strictly abstained eating pork meat despite the fish food supply shortage. Older folks felt weak and others were rushed to hospitals due to deteriorating health.

The Catholic Church was alarmed about the Bantayanons strict observance of the Lenten Season that it sought the help of the Archdiocese and later reached the Vatican.

Seeing the need to continue the pious practice of Lent by Bantayanons and preserve the influence of the Church without affecting the people's devotion and observance of Christ's suffering during Lent, the Pope issued the papal bull giving the Bantayanons a privilege to eat pork meat during Lenten season to address the food shortage.

yepeeyo
February 5th, 2007, 08:08 AM
....i think this is the best way to preserve the old beauty of Cebu !!!




Incentives eyed to encourage renovation of old buildings in Cebu City
By Linette C. Ramos
Sun.Star Staff Reporter

TO ENCOURAGE owners to renovate old structures, Cebu City officials are considering giving incentives and easing some restrictions on building requirements.

Vice Mayor Michael Rama said parking requirements do not have to be complied with, provided that renovation will not alter the use of commercial buildings.

He also proposed possible incentives for building owners who take the initiative of renovating their properties for fire safety purposes, one way they can help make downtown Cebu City an economically viable district.

Flexibility

One possible motivation is tax exemption, but this will still have to be carefully studied, he said.

“There are no concrete plans on this yet; but it has already been discussed that when talking about old buildings in downtown area, there has to be some kind of flexibility. If we’re not going to change the use of the building, then we will not insist on the parking requirements,” Rama said.

While some city officials want to preserve certain areas of downtown Cebu City as cultural heritage, minor improvements are also needed, he said.

“Whether we like it or not, parking spaces are necessary to make the area economically viable... but we also need to have some kind of an incentive because a renovation imposes several restrictions on the owners,” he added.

Last Thursday, fire gutted 17 business establishments along Lincoln and Plaridel Sts., prompting the Office of the Building Official (OBO) to remind building owners to inspect their properties regularly.

Hesitant

Wood components and loose electrical connections of decades-old buildings in the downtown area make the structures highly flammable, an OBO official said.

An OBO source earlier said owners are hesitant to improve their buildings because of stringent requirements, especially on parking spaces.

But City Planning Officer Nigel Paul Villarete said they do not have to provide additional parking spaces when doing minor improvements.

The Cebu City Zoning Ordinance requires restaurants to provide at least one parking space for every 20-square-meter floor area on the ground floor, and one for every 60 square meters on the second floor.

Offices need to provide one parking space for every 50-square-meter floor area on the ground floor and one for every 100-square-meter area on the second floor.

“If the renovation is for purposes of changing the use of a building, then definitely it will be subjected to parking space requirements. But if after the renovation the restaurant is still a restaurant, then you don’t have to provide additional parking space, if that’s what they’re worried about,” Villarete said.

He, however, is not amenable to easing restrictions on building owners.

He said it should even be made more stringent, which is why the City Zoning Board is proposing to make a uniform parking space requirement.

Whether or not an establishment is located on the first or second floors, the parking space and floor area ratio should be the same, Villarete said.

yepeeyo
February 5th, 2007, 08:08 AM
....i think this is the best way to preserve the old beauty of Cebu !!!




Incentives eyed to encourage renovation of old buildings in Cebu City
By Linette C. Ramos
Sun.Star Staff Reporter

TO ENCOURAGE owners to renovate old structures, Cebu City officials are considering giving incentives and easing some restrictions on building requirements.

Vice Mayor Michael Rama said parking requirements do not have to be complied with, provided that renovation will not alter the use of commercial buildings.

He also proposed possible incentives for building owners who take the initiative of renovating their properties for fire safety purposes, one way they can help make downtown Cebu City an economically viable district.

Flexibility

One possible motivation is tax exemption, but this will still have to be carefully studied, he said.

“There are no concrete plans on this yet; but it has already been discussed that when talking about old buildings in downtown area, there has to be some kind of flexibility. If we’re not going to change the use of the building, then we will not insist on the parking requirements,” Rama said.

While some city officials want to preserve certain areas of downtown Cebu City as cultural heritage, minor improvements are also needed, he said.

“Whether we like it or not, parking spaces are necessary to make the area economically viable... but we also need to have some kind of an incentive because a renovation imposes several restrictions on the owners,” he added.

Last Thursday, fire gutted 17 business establishments along Lincoln and Plaridel Sts., prompting the Office of the Building Official (OBO) to remind building owners to inspect their properties regularly.

Hesitant

Wood components and loose electrical connections of decades-old buildings in the downtown area make the structures highly flammable, an OBO official said.

An OBO source earlier said owners are hesitant to improve their buildings because of stringent requirements, especially on parking spaces.

But City Planning Officer Nigel Paul Villarete said they do not have to provide additional parking spaces when doing minor improvements.

The Cebu City Zoning Ordinance requires restaurants to provide at least one parking space for every 20-square-meter floor area on the ground floor, and one for every 60 square meters on the second floor.

Offices need to provide one parking space for every 50-square-meter floor area on the ground floor and one for every 100-square-meter area on the second floor.

“If the renovation is for purposes of changing the use of a building, then definitely it will be subjected to parking space requirements. But if after the renovation the restaurant is still a restaurant, then you don’t have to provide additional parking space, if that’s what they’re worried about,” Villarete said.

He, however, is not amenable to easing restrictions on building owners.

He said it should even be made more stringent, which is why the City Zoning Board is proposing to make a uniform parking space requirement.

Whether or not an establishment is located on the first or second floors, the parking space and floor area ratio should be the same, Villarete said.

h3nry
February 5th, 2007, 08:10 AM
@pirena:

Based on an article I read before, the reason why Bantayanons got exempted from eating pork meat was the shortage of fishes during lenten season in the Spanish period. The food shortage resulted into an alarming crisis as no fisherfolk would set sail and catch fishes for the island's food supply during the lenten season as an alternative to pork meat.

Bantayanons, being pious & devout Catholics, strictly abstained eating pork meat despite the fish food supply shortage. Older folks felt weak and others were rushed to hospitals due to deteriorating health.

The Catholic Church was alarmed about the Bantayanons strict observance of the Lenten Season that it sought the help of the Archdiocese and later reached the Vatican.

Seeing the need to continue the pious practice of Lent by Bantayanons and preserve the influence of the Church without affecting the people's devotion and observance of Christ's suffering during Lent, the Pope issued the papal bull giving the Bantayanons a privilege to eat pork meat during Lenten season to address the food shortage.

I thought It was just a humor nga gi-allowed sila pa-eat ug pork meat.. From vatican gyud diay na nga issuance.. Therefore, Ang mga taga-bantayan are very religious gyud diay.. bisan mga matay nga cgi gihapon...
Now, They have my respect. A culture,truely cebuano :)

h3nry
February 5th, 2007, 08:10 AM
@pirena:

Based on an article I read before, the reason why Bantayanons got exempted from eating pork meat was the shortage of fishes during lenten season in the Spanish period. The food shortage resulted into an alarming crisis as no fisherfolk would set sail and catch fishes for the island's food supply during the lenten season as an alternative to pork meat.

Bantayanons, being pious & devout Catholics, strictly abstained eating pork meat despite the fish food supply shortage. Older folks felt weak and others were rushed to hospitals due to deteriorating health.

The Catholic Church was alarmed about the Bantayanons strict observance of the Lenten Season that it sought the help of the Archdiocese and later reached the Vatican.

Seeing the need to continue the pious practice of Lent by Bantayanons and preserve the influence of the Church without affecting the people's devotion and observance of Christ's suffering during Lent, the Pope issued the papal bull giving the Bantayanons a privilege to eat pork meat during Lenten season to address the food shortage.

I thought It was just a humor nga gi-allowed sila pa-eat ug pork meat.. From vatican gyud diay na nga issuance.. Therefore, Ang mga taga-bantayan are very religious gyud diay.. bisan mga matay nga cgi gihapon...
Now, They have my respect. A culture,truely cebuano :)

southernbelle
February 5th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Took these pictures last January at the sacristy of the Basilica Minore del Sto. Niņo de Cebu. I just don't know how old this table is. I like the design and craftsmanship! Bug-at siguro kaayo ni if this is made of narra.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6301/img3458ud0.jpg

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7243/img3460pf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


This mirror is encased in a beautifully-carved wood. Ari magpa-gwapo ang mga pari ug sacristan before the start of the mass. hehehe. The girl's reflection in the mirror is a ghost!:lol:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7704/img3459ia0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

southernbelle
February 5th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Took these pictures last January at the sacristy of the Basilica Minore del Sto. Niņo de Cebu. I just don't know how old this table is. I like the design and craftsmanship! Bug-at siguro kaayo ni if this is made of narra.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6301/img3458ud0.jpg

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7243/img3460pf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


This mirror is encased in a beautifully-carved wood. Ari magpa-gwapo ang mga pari ug sacristan before the start of the mass. hehehe. The girl's reflection in the mirror is a ghost!:lol:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7704/img3459ia0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

southernbelle
February 5th, 2007, 11:49 AM
The entrance to the convent of the Basilica Minore del Sto. Niņo de Cebu

http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/9564/img0350ug4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


A painting of the Crucified Christ near the entrance of the convent.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1751/img0349yv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


The Hapsburg emblem at the library of the Basilica.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5263/img0183bd4.jpg

southernbelle
February 5th, 2007, 11:49 AM
The entrance to the convent of the Basilica Minore del Sto. Niņo de Cebu

http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/9564/img0350ug4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


A painting of the Crucified Christ near the entrance of the convent.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1751/img0349yv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


The Hapsburg emblem at the library of the Basilica.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5263/img0183bd4.jpg

Gibb
February 6th, 2007, 02:50 AM
^^thanks southernbelle for sharing your pictures.

Gibb
February 6th, 2007, 02:50 AM
^^thanks southernbelle for sharing your pictures.

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 03:26 AM
thanks southernbelle.... waaaa murag ganahan ko mubalik ug tour sa convent...

mao man daw ni katung nasunog noh sa library?

at the back of this,
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5263/img0183bd4.jpg


is this...............
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 03:26 AM
thanks southernbelle.... waaaa murag ganahan ko mubalik ug tour sa convent...

mao man daw ni katung nasunog noh sa library?

at the back of this,
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5263/img0183bd4.jpg


is this...............
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 03:54 AM
BASILICA MINORE del SANTO NIņO


History

Three churches have been built before the present one. The first church, by Fr. Diego de Herrera, was made of Nipa and Wood and was burnt down in 1566. The next church, also of light materials, was constructed by Fr. Pedro Torres and also got burnt in 1628. The third church, made of bricks and stones was started by Fr. Juan de Medina. It fell down on 1629.

On February 29, 1735, Fr. Juan de Albarran started the construction of what would be the present church; hewn stone was used. The church was finished in 1739.

Architecture of the Church and Monastery

The facade of the church is a blending of Muslim (manifested by the three-foil arches), Romanesque, and Neo-Classical features. It follows the classical pattern and is divided into two levels. Shallow pillasters divide each story into three segments decorated with stone bas-reliefs representing Augustinian saints. The bell tower serves as counterbalance to the opposite end. A triangular pediment crowns the solid, but not massive, facade.

Focus of attention is on the center section. The trefoil arched main entrance is balanced by the side rectangular satued niches. The vertical composition is echoed by the small design on the second level above the cornice, the trefoil arch, the pediment and the side scroll-like ornament, a facade within a facade. A double-edged triangular pediment crowns the facade.

Interiors

In 1773, the interior of the church was painted. The church itself was retouched and reinforced in 1782. In 1886, Fr. Fernando Magaz added two side altars. From 1880 to 1890 fr. Mateo Diaz installed glass windows with iron rails, painted the interior, added four new altars and refurbished the floor with marble at the cost of six thousand pesos. Fr. Valerio Rodrigo brought the chandeliers in the early 20th century. Aside from these embellishments, the church has remained in its original form.

On the occasion of the Fourth Centennial Celebration of the evangelization of the Philippines, renovation was carried out with utmost respect to the old historical structure of the church.


Exterior Photos:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1640-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center09.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1658-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1717.jpg



Interior Photos:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/finely_carved_chairs.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center07.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/ceiling_santonino.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pipe_organ_ceiling.jpg

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 03:54 AM
BASILICA MINORE del SANTO NIņO


History

Three churches have been built before the present one. The first church, by Fr. Diego de Herrera, was made of Nipa and Wood and was burnt down in 1566. The next church, also of light materials, was constructed by Fr. Pedro Torres and also got burnt in 1628. The third church, made of bricks and stones was started by Fr. Juan de Medina. It fell down on 1629.

On February 29, 1735, Fr. Juan de Albarran started the construction of what would be the present church; hewn stone was used. The church was finished in 1739.

Architecture of the Church and Monastery

The facade of the church is a blending of Muslim (manifested by the three-foil arches), Romanesque, and Neo-Classical features. It follows the classical pattern and is divided into two levels. Shallow pillasters divide each story into three segments decorated with stone bas-reliefs representing Augustinian saints. The bell tower serves as counterbalance to the opposite end. A triangular pediment crowns the solid, but not massive, facade.

Focus of attention is on the center section. The trefoil arched main entrance is balanced by the side rectangular satued niches. The vertical composition is echoed by the small design on the second level above the cornice, the trefoil arch, the pediment and the side scroll-like ornament, a facade within a facade. A double-edged triangular pediment crowns the facade.

Interiors

In 1773, the interior of the church was painted. The church itself was retouched and reinforced in 1782. In 1886, Fr. Fernando Magaz added two side altars. From 1880 to 1890 fr. Mateo Diaz installed glass windows with iron rails, painted the interior, added four new altars and refurbished the floor with marble at the cost of six thousand pesos. Fr. Valerio Rodrigo brought the chandeliers in the early 20th century. Aside from these embellishments, the church has remained in its original form.

On the occasion of the Fourth Centennial Celebration of the evangelization of the Philippines, renovation was carried out with utmost respect to the old historical structure of the church.


Exterior Photos:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1640-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center09.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1658-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/IMG_1717.jpg



Interior Photos:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/finely_carved_chairs.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center07.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/ceiling_santonino.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pipe_organ_ceiling.jpg

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 04:05 AM
Hallway to Monastery
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/hallway_leading_to_monastery.jpg


Finely carved staircase with chinese lions at the main posts
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center05.jpg


Old Paintings, the oldest of which dates to the 17th century
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/hallway.jpg


Fountain
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/36.jpg





//

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 04:05 AM
Hallway to Monastery
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/hallway_leading_to_monastery.jpg


Finely carved staircase with chinese lions at the main posts
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/pilgrim_center05.jpg


Old Paintings, the oldest of which dates to the 17th century
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/hallway.jpg


Fountain
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/36.jpg





//

yepeeyo
February 6th, 2007, 06:21 AM
flickr finds


pics by @d2digital

Lapu-Lapu Shrine
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/374383209_d9e489d1cb.jpg?v=0


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/374277130_caec5afc1f.jpg?v=0


Magellan’s Cross
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/371652165_9c8eafee7a.jpg?v=0



pic by @arlene_d_nsik

Argao Church
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/374309696_ffc1119ec0.jpg?v=0

yepeeyo
February 6th, 2007, 06:21 AM
flickr finds


pics by @d2digital

Lapu-Lapu Shrine
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/374383209_d9e489d1cb.jpg?v=0


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/374277130_caec5afc1f.jpg?v=0


Magellan’s Cross
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/371652165_9c8eafee7a.jpg?v=0



pic by @arlene_d_nsik

Argao Church
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/374309696_ffc1119ec0.jpg?v=0

Animo
February 6th, 2007, 07:25 AM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

hey, can I use your photos for making a Cebu banner in the future? Did you also come from flickr? Your avatar seems familiar. Thanks! :)

Animo
February 6th, 2007, 07:25 AM
thanks

heres more:

did these for the city and province last year. dont know if anyone can recall such montages:

mactan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/lapulapu.jpg

taoist temple
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/taoist.jpg

santo niņo
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/stonio.jpg

magellans cross
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/magellanscross.jpg

fort san pedro
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/fort.jpg

carcar
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/carcar.jpg

bantayan
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/bantayan.jpg

argao
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/argao.jpg

hey, can I use your photos for making a Cebu banner in the future? Did you also come from flickr? Your avatar seems familiar. Thanks! :)

overtureph
February 6th, 2007, 07:57 AM
The picture in the Lapu-Lapu shrine is the Magellan monument.

overtureph
February 6th, 2007, 07:57 AM
The picture in the Lapu-Lapu shrine is the Magellan monument.

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Contrary to previous speculations that all of the centuries old Acacia trees at Plaza Independencia will be cut to give way for the construction of a road tunnel (open dig method), only a very small part will be affected after all.

The contractors will excavate only a portion of the historic Plaza Independencia (the portion where the archaeological rescue digs were conducted), and from that vantage point will bore a hole that will connect both ends of the road tunnel.. In other words, the entire Plaza Independencia will not be excavated and destroyed.

The contractors have assured that they will pay "millions of pesos" to the city for every tree that will be affected (provided that it will really be accidentally affected).

Photos by Markiiboi

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4461/dsc01390oo7.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1325/dsc01296tq2.jpg

LordCarnal
February 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Contrary to previous speculations that all of the centuries old Acacia trees at Plaza Independencia will be cut to give way for the construction of a road tunnel (open dig method), only a very small part will be affected after all.

The contractors will excavate only a portion of the historic Plaza Independencia (the portion where the archaeological rescue digs were conducted), and from that vantage point will bore a hole that will connect both ends of the road tunnel.. In other words, the entire Plaza Independencia will not be excavated and destroyed.

The contractors have assured that they will pay "millions of pesos" to the city for every tree that will be affected (provided that it will really be accidentally affected).

Photos by Markiiboi

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http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1325/dsc01296tq2.jpg

LordCarnal
February 7th, 2007, 05:29 AM
Quaint towns: SIBONGA


Town Plaza
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1462.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1470.jpg



Rubberized Badminton Court at the Plaza
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1469.jpg



Municipal Hall
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1463.jpg



Fountain
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1464.jpg



PGMA's Grandfather
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1467.jpg



Church Convento
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1460.jpg



Historic Cemetery
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1426.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1430.jpg



Neo-Gothic Church, inaugurated by Msgr. Jeremias Harty, then Archbishop of Manila
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1451.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1453.jpg

LordCarnal
February 7th, 2007, 05:29 AM
Quaint towns: SIBONGA


Town Plaza
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1462.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1470.jpg



Rubberized Badminton Court at the Plaza
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1469.jpg



Municipal Hall
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1463.jpg



Fountain
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1464.jpg



PGMA's Grandfather
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1467.jpg



Church Convento
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1460.jpg



Historic Cemetery
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1426.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1430.jpg



Neo-Gothic Church, inaugurated by Msgr. Jeremias Harty, then Archbishop of Manila
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1451.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/Sibonga%20Church/IMG_1453.jpg

overtureph
February 7th, 2007, 06:37 AM
Sibonga town looks charming.

overtureph
February 7th, 2007, 06:37 AM
Sibonga town looks charming.

flesh_is_weak
February 7th, 2007, 01:26 PM
@arnold: did you happen to get inside the bone chamber of Sibonga Cemetery? it sure has a lot of piled up bones, and a partially decomposed human corpse still with clothes on it...:D

flesh_is_weak
February 7th, 2007, 01:26 PM
@arnold: did you happen to get inside the bone chamber of Sibonga Cemetery? it sure has a lot of piled up bones, and a partially decomposed human corpse still with clothes on it...:D

LordCarnal
February 7th, 2007, 01:55 PM
^^

Yup, been there bro... Hehehe.. I still have an old picture of it when it was still very intact..

Nice kaayo tan-awn..

LordCarnal
February 7th, 2007, 01:55 PM
^^

Yup, been there bro... Hehehe.. I still have an old picture of it when it was still very intact..

Nice kaayo tan-awn..

southernbelle
February 7th, 2007, 03:18 PM
thanks southernbelle.... waaaa murag ganahan ko mubalik ug tour sa convent...

mao man daw ni katung nasunog noh sa library?

at the back of this,



is this...............
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg



Correct kaayo ka arnold! And that emblem is very big!

southernbelle
February 7th, 2007, 03:18 PM
thanks southernbelle.... waaaa murag ganahan ko mubalik ug tour sa convent...

mao man daw ni katung nasunog noh sa library?

at the back of this,



is this...............
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/CebuHeritageWalk/beautifulChurches/main_altar_retablo.jpg



Correct kaayo ka arnold! And that emblem is very big!

flesh_is_weak
February 8th, 2007, 01:54 PM
In the early 16th century, the natives of Cebu under Rajah Humabon engaged in an active trade which bartered woven cloth, embroidery, cast bronze utensils, and ornaments. The settlement also had small foundries producing mortars, pestles, wine bowls, gongs, inlaid boxes of betel, and rice measures. Humabon himself was finely clad in a loincloth, silk turban, and pearl, and gold jewelry, and was supposed to have demanded tribute from East Indian, Siamese, and Chinese traders. At that time, densely populated villages lined the eastern coast of the island, while the highland villages hugged the streams and lakes. The coasts were linked to the hinterlands either by rivers or trading trails. Communities were composed of bamboo and palm leaf-thatched houses raised from the ground by four posts and made accessible by a ladder, the area underneath reserved for domestic animals. Humabon's large house resembled that common dwellings, towering like a big haystack over smaller ones(Pigafetta 1969).

looks like the rajah lived in a skyscraper...:lol:

flesh_is_weak
February 8th, 2007, 01:54 PM
In the early 16th century, the natives of Cebu under Rajah Humabon engaged in an active trade which bartered woven cloth, embroidery, cast bronze utensils, and ornaments. The settlement also had small foundries producing mortars, pestles, wine bowls, gongs, inlaid boxes of betel, and rice measures. Humabon himself was finely clad in a loincloth, silk turban, and pearl, and gold jewelry, and was supposed to have demanded tribute from East Indian, Siamese, and Chinese traders. At that time, densely populated villages lined the eastern coast of the island, while the highland villages hugged the streams and lakes. The coasts were linked to the hinterlands either by rivers or trading trails. Communities were composed of bamboo and palm leaf-thatched houses raised from the ground by four posts and made accessible by a ladder, the area underneath reserved for domestic animals. Humabon's large house resembled that common dwellings, towering like a big haystack over smaller ones(Pigafetta 1969).

looks like the rajah lived in a skyscraper...:lol:

gee
February 10th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Fortress for Boljoon Church

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 12:25pm (Mla time) 02/08/2007

ON my second day of excavations here at the plaza fronting Boljoon Church, wonders never cease as I glance once in a while at the many structures that remind me of the work of Fray Julian Bermejo. It is amazing how the mists of time have left us so little about who this Augustinian priest-builder was and what legacy he left in the southern part of the island of Cebu.

Fortunately, Ruel Rigor, teacher, heritage planner and connoisseur of things old and forgotten, emailed me last October an article in Spanish that chronicled the life and times of Fray Julian. Written by Fr. Policarpo Hernandez, OSA, and published in 2002 in the journal Archivo Augustiniano (Vol. 86, No. 204), Ruel had asked me to translate the document in the hope that it might help shed light on the watchtowers and defensive structures lining towns under a project he helped run, called the Cebu Heritage Frontier (which covers the towns of Sibonga to Santander, if I remember right).

From the 19 letters he wrote to Governor General Pascual Enrile which are reproduced in the article, we not only see a friar eager to protect and promote the welfare of his parishioners but also equally eager to promote himself and show that his selfless dedication was unique in Cebu, which at this time was almost empty of Spanish residents, save for churchmen or colonial government employees.

Who was Fray Julian Bermejo?

Bermejo was born in the town of Pardillo, Ciudad Real, in Spain in 1777. He entered the College of Augustinian Friars in Valladolid and made his first vows on July 25, 1793. He left for Manila on Dec. 3 or 4, 1795, arriving aboard the ship San Andrés at the end of November 1796. After finishing his ecclesiastical studies in the Monastery of San Pablo (today called San Agustin), he left for the Church (now Basilica) del Santo Niņo in Cebu where he learned the Cebuano language. In Oct. 3, 1802, he assumed as parish priest of Boljóon, which he administered, with some intervals, from 1802 to 1842, and from 1846 until Jan. 1, 1848. He died in the Monasterio del Santo Niņo on April 30, 1851.

The first thing he did upon becoming parish priest of Boljoon tells much of Fray Julian’s motivations and missionary zeal, which was not so much aimed at merely celebrating Masses but building a formidable defense system to protect his parishioners and those from other nearby towns from the incessant and very devastating Moro raids. Finding Boljoon Church unfinished (rebuilding began in 1783, a year after the early one was burned by a marauding band of Moros from Mindanao), he decided instead to build a fortress around the church with a bulwark at each corner. The walls are still intact as I write, except for the one that abuts the highway. But only one of the bulwarks survives to this day and stands proudly facing the Municipal Hall.

After finishing the fortress, Bermejo rallied other towns (from Sibonga to Santander and even faraway Pinamongajan, across to Dumaguete and Sibulan in Negros, and on to Siquijor and Panglao in Bohol), to build a line of watchtowers equipped with a system of telegraphs probably using smoke and flags, with the Peņon or Crag atop the Ili of Boljoon as its central command post. These watchtowers are still visible to this day, many of them falling by the wayside, as it were. At least one has been ruthlessly cemented and painted over somewhere in Oslob.

Many of these structures are in private hands now but I agree with the common suspicion that these continue to be properties of the Philippine state as all instrumentalities of the Spanish colonial administration were turned over to the Americans by virtue of the Treaty of Paris in 1898. Even if well inside private property, each watchtower and about two or four meters around it are still part of the Philippine defense system. More on Fray Julian as the quintessential renaissance man next week.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/opinion/view_article.php?article_id=48263

gee
February 10th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Fortress for Boljoon Church

By Joeber Bersales
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 12:25pm (Mla time) 02/08/2007

ON my second day of excavations here at the plaza fronting Boljoon Church, wonders never cease as I glance once in a while at the many structures that remind me of the work of Fray Julian Bermejo. It is amazing how the mists of time have left us so little about who this Augustinian priest-builder was and what legacy he left in the southern part of the island of Cebu.

Fortunately, Ruel Rigor, teacher, heritage planner and connoisseur of things old and forgotten, emailed me last October an article in Spanish that chronicled the life and times of Fray Julian. Written by Fr. Policarpo Hernandez, OSA, and published in 2002 in the journal Archivo Augustiniano (Vol. 86, No. 204), Ruel had asked me to translate the document in the hope that it might help shed light on the watchtowers and defensive structures lining towns under a project he helped run, called the Cebu Heritage Frontier (which covers the towns of Sibonga to Santander, if I remember right).

From the 19 letters he wrote to Governor General Pascual Enrile which are reproduced in the article, we not only see a friar eager to protect and promote the welfare of his parishioners but also equally eager to promote himself and show that his selfless dedication was unique in Cebu, which at this time was almost empty of Spanish residents, save for churchmen or colonial government employees.

Who was Fray Julian Bermejo?

Bermejo was born in the town of Pardillo, Ciudad Real, in Spain in 1777. He entered the College of Augustinian Friars in Valladolid and made his first vows on July 25, 1793. He left for Manila on Dec. 3 or 4, 1795, arriving aboard the ship San Andrés at the end of November 1796. After finishing his ecclesiastical studies in the Monastery of San Pablo (today called San Agustin), he left for the Church (now Basilica) del Santo Niņo in Cebu where he learned the Cebuano language. In Oct. 3, 1802, he assumed as parish priest of Boljóon, which he administered, with some intervals, from 1802 to 1842, and from 1846 until Jan. 1, 1848. He died in the Monasterio del Santo Niņo on April 30, 1851.

The first thing he did upon becoming parish priest of Boljoon tells much of Fray Julian’s motivations and missionary zeal, which was not so much aimed at merely celebrating Masses but building a formidable defense system to protect his parishioners and those from other nearby towns from the incessant and very devastating Moro raids. Finding Boljoon Church unfinished (rebuilding began in 1783, a year after the early one was burned by a marauding band of Moros from Mindanao), he decided instead to build a fortress around the church with a bulwark at each corner. The walls are still intact as I write, except for the one that abuts the highway. But only one of the bulwarks survives to this day and stands proudly facing the Municipal Hall.

After finishing the fortress, Bermejo rallied other towns (from Sibonga to Santander and even faraway Pinamongajan, across to Dumaguete and Sibulan in Negros, and on to Siquijor and Panglao in Bohol), to build a line of watchtowers equipped with a system of telegraphs probably using smoke and flags, with the Peņon or Crag atop the Ili of Boljoon as its central command post. These watchtowers are still visible to this day, many of them falling by the wayside, as it were. At least one has been ruthlessly cemented and painted over somewhere in Oslob.

Many of these structures are in private hands now but I agree with the common suspicion that these continue to be properties of the Philippine state as all instrumentalities of the Spanish colonial administration were turned over to the Americans by virtue of the Treaty of Paris in 1898. Even if well inside private property, each watchtower and about two or four meters around it are still part of the Philippine defense system. More on Fray Julian as the quintessential renaissance man next week.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/opinion/view_article.php?article_id=48263

flesh_is_weak
February 13th, 2007, 09:28 PM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)




...

flesh_is_weak
February 13th, 2007, 09:28 PM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)




...

leylander
February 14th, 2007, 09:31 AM
^^nice info. thanks

leylander
February 14th, 2007, 09:31 AM
^^nice info. thanks

miaka_cham
February 15th, 2007, 10:38 AM
i'm so proud of you guys..thanks for the inputs..:)

miaka_cham
February 15th, 2007, 10:38 AM
i'm so proud of you guys..thanks for the inputs..:)

vatics
February 16th, 2007, 10:31 AM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)


...


:bow: wow @pirena... nag-research ka pa & comprehensive ang mga infos... you present your information with some annotations pa... galing!

vatics
February 16th, 2007, 10:31 AM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)


...


:bow: wow @pirena... nag-research ka pa & comprehensive ang mga infos... you present your information with some annotations pa... galing!

habagatcentral1
February 16th, 2007, 10:36 AM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)




...

^^ Shift na sa BA History, Nito. Join the club of endangered species like me, hehehe! :D

Nice article! Is there a copy of Pigafetta's account somewhere in Cebu? Hopefully its not in Mandaue (Regional Archives for Visayas) because usually they do not allow outsiders or even undergraduate thesis writers to enter the National Archives.

habagatcentral1
February 16th, 2007, 10:36 AM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)




...

^^ Shift na sa BA History, Nito. Join the club of endangered species like me, hehehe! :D

Nice article! Is there a copy of Pigafetta's account somewhere in Cebu? Hopefully its not in Mandaue (Regional Archives for Visayas) because usually they do not allow outsiders or even undergraduate thesis writers to enter the National Archives.

LordCarnal
February 16th, 2007, 11:05 AM
^^

National Archives..

LordCarnal
February 16th, 2007, 11:05 AM
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LordCarnal
February 16th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Jesuit House of 1730 in Pari-an

The Jesuit House of 1730 was once the residence of the Jesuit Superior in Cebu. Right now, it is occupied by a hardware owned by the Sy Family.

When the Jesuits were suppressed in Europe and eventually expelled from the Philippines in 1768, several of their properties were put on sale. This particular residence was bought by a Spanish family, the Alvarez. It passed on to different owners until the Sy family acquired it.

This house is said to be the oldest in the Philippines according to Fr. Rene Javellana, SJ. The second oldest house in the country today is known as the Casa Ordoveza somewhere in Laguna. This house was built a few years after the Jesuit residence.

Photos below:

Since the entire compound has been fenced off, only the terracota roof is visible.
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouseof1730.jpg

http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouseof1730_02.jpg


This is the original entrance along a very narrow road in Binakayan Street. A steel gate was installed to protect it from further deterioration.
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouse01.jpg

http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouse03.jpg




From Ateneo de Manila University's Panublion:

The whole compound is surrounded by a wall made of cut coral. The wall is divided by short piers on which are relieves bearing the monogram IHS, meaning Jesus. The original gate to the residence is along the side road named Binakayan. The gate’s lintel is decorated with monograms of Jesus, Mary and Joseph. These bas relieves in soft coral have unfortunately eroded because of wind and rain and also because vehicles have scarped the wall along the very narrow Binakayan road. To protect the monograms on the gate, the Sy family has installed a metal gate and a roof over the gate. To see the monograms on the lintel permission is needed as the steel gate is locked.

Entrance to the compound is through a new opening at Zulueta. Inside the compound are two structures. The structure closest to Zulueta bears traces of renovation. It is a bipartite building, the lower story of coral and the upper of wood. The stairway leading to the first house is of 20th-century vintage. The roof of the house is supported by stout unhewn tree trunks decorated with corbels.

This house is connected by a bridge to a second house. Like the convento of Santo Niņo the second house is all of cut coral. Stout unhewn timbers support a heavy tile roof. The roof line curves outward in the same manner as Chinese style roofs. Iron grilles bar the windows of the second story. The house is no longer divided as it may have looked in the 18th century. Divisions into rooms are of 20th century vintage. The main door of the house is permanently locked and the decorative banister and newel post of the stairway is gone. Oral tradition has it that the Alvarez family brought the banister and newel post to a new house they were building in Bohol. Both banister and post were similar in design to those found in the convento of Santo Niņo.

LordCarnal
February 16th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Jesuit House of 1730 in Pari-an

The Jesuit House of 1730 was once the residence of the Jesuit Superior in Cebu. Right now, it is occupied by a hardware owned by the Sy Family.

When the Jesuits were suppressed in Europe and eventually expelled from the Philippines in 1768, several of their properties were put on sale. This particular residence was bought by a Spanish family, the Alvarez. It passed on to different owners until the Sy family acquired it.

This house is said to be the oldest in the Philippines according to Fr. Rene Javellana, SJ. The second oldest house in the country today is known as the Casa Ordoveza somewhere in Laguna. This house was built a few years after the Jesuit residence.

Photos below:

Since the entire compound has been fenced off, only the terracota roof is visible.
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouseof1730.jpg

http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouseof1730_02.jpg


This is the original entrance along a very narrow road in Binakayan Street. A steel gate was installed to protect it from further deterioration.
http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouse01.jpg

http://cebuheritage.wordpress.com/files/2007/02/jesuithouse03.jpg




From Ateneo de Manila University's Panublion:

The whole compound is surrounded by a wall made of cut coral. The wall is divided by short piers on which are relieves bearing the monogram IHS, meaning Jesus. The original gate to the residence is along the side road named Binakayan. The gate’s lintel is decorated with monograms of Jesus, Mary and Joseph. These bas relieves in soft coral have unfortunately eroded because of wind and rain and also because vehicles have scarped the wall along the very narrow Binakayan road. To protect the monograms on the gate, the Sy family has installed a metal gate and a roof over the gate. To see the monograms on the lintel permission is needed as the steel gate is locked.

Entrance to the compound is through a new opening at Zulueta. Inside the compound are two structures. The structure closest to Zulueta bears traces of renovation. It is a bipartite building, the lower story of coral and the upper of wood. The stairway leading to the first house is of 20th-century vintage. The roof of the house is supported by stout unhewn tree trunks decorated with corbels.

This house is connected by a bridge to a second house. Like the convento of Santo Niņo the second house is all of cut coral. Stout unhewn timbers support a heavy tile roof. The roof line curves outward in the same manner as Chinese style roofs. Iron grilles bar the windows of the second story. The house is no longer divided as it may have looked in the 18th century. Divisions into rooms are of 20th century vintage. The main door of the house is permanently locked and the decorative banister and newel post of the stairway is gone. Oral tradition has it that the Alvarez family brought the banister and newel post to a new house they were building in Bohol. Both banister and post were similar in design to those found in the convento of Santo Niņo.

vatics
February 16th, 2007, 05:24 PM
:applause: dinha ko bilib nimo bai... parehas ni pirena grabe gyud ang research. nag-wonder lang ko nganong ang mga nursing students hilig ug history? "keen eye for details" if i may say so. pwede sad mahimo mong curator sa cebu @arnold & @pirena

vatics
February 16th, 2007, 05:24 PM
:applause: dinha ko bilib nimo bai... parehas ni pirena grabe gyud ang research. nag-wonder lang ko nganong ang mga nursing students hilig ug history? "keen eye for details" if i may say so. pwede sad mahimo mong curator sa cebu @arnold & @pirena

bukid
February 16th, 2007, 05:36 PM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)

...

from pigafetta's "Relazione del primo viaggio intorno al mondo":

In questa isola sono molte ville, li nomi de le quali e de li suoi principali sono questi: Cinghapola: li sui principali Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat; Cimabul: una Mandani; il suo principale Apanovan: una Lalan, il suo principale Theten; una Lalutan, il suo principale Iapan, una Cilumai e un'altra Lubucun. Tutti questi ne obbedivano e ne davano vittuaglia e tributo.

Appresso questa isola de Zubu ne era una, che se chiama Matan, la qual faceva lo porto, dove čramo. Il nome de la sua villa era Matan, li sui principali Zula e Cilapulapu. Quella villa, che brusassemo, era in questa isola, e se chiamava Bulaia.

i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

and near the island Zubu is one called Matan. which is made a port. the name of its houses are Matan, its chiefs are Zula and Cilapulapu (Si lapulapu??? nangutana guro kinsa inyo hari? gitubag pud sila "Si_Lapulapu".). Those houses that are (burned??? / bruciatura???) are in this island, called Bulaia.

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

the reason why it was not humabon who asked for baptism: it was because humabon sent the prince (his nephew) as his representative (with power of attorney :D) to conclude a peace treaty with the spaniards. (according to the pigafetta account.)

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

Le mostrai una immagine de la Nostra Donna, uno bambino di legno bellissimo e una croce....Ne domandō il Bambino per tenerlo in loco de li suoi idoli...

pigafetta showed the queen the Lady (our lady), a beautiful wooden Child and a Cross. and the queen asked for the Child that will be a replacement for their idols... (tenerlo in loco de.. have it in place of.. remember "in loco parentis" meaning "in place of a parent")

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan


i'll try to read some more from the diary. and maybe share some more info with you. :)

bukid
February 16th, 2007, 05:36 PM
a quick read through Pigafetta's diary yielded the following information about ancient cebu...

...the major town was not called Cebu, but Cingapola (kind of sounds like Singapore)

...that of all the ports in the Philippine Archipelago, it was then the largest and the busiest (according to the King of Butuan)

...other settlements were Mandani (Mandaue?), Lalan, Lalutan, and Lubucin

...that on the Battle of Mactan, the spaniards burned one village called Bulaia (could this be the present-day Baranggay Buaya?)

...

from pigafetta's "Relazione del primo viaggio intorno al mondo":

In questa isola sono molte ville, li nomi de le quali e de li suoi principali sono questi: Cinghapola: li sui principali Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat; Cimabul: una Mandani; il suo principale Apanovan: una Lalan, il suo principale Theten; una Lalutan, il suo principale Iapan, una Cilumai e un'altra Lubucun. Tutti questi ne obbedivano e ne davano vittuaglia e tributo.

Appresso questa isola de Zubu ne era una, che se chiama Matan, la qual faceva lo porto, dove čramo. Il nome de la sua villa era Matan, li sui principali Zula e Cilapulapu. Quella villa, che brusassemo, era in questa isola, e se chiamava Bulaia.

i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

and near the island Zubu is one called Matan. which is made a port. the name of its houses are Matan, its chiefs are Zula and Cilapulapu (Si lapulapu??? nangutana guro kinsa inyo hari? gitubag pud sila "Si_Lapulapu".). Those houses that are (burned??? / bruciatura???) are in this island, called Bulaia.

...that King Humabon had no direct heir, but his nephew

...that it was not King Humabon who initially asked for the Cebuanos to be baptized, but his nephew

the reason why it was not humabon who asked for baptism: it was because humabon sent the prince (his nephew) as his representative (with power of attorney :D) to conclude a peace treaty with the spaniards. (according to the pigafetta account.)

...that the Sto. Nino is probably part of a larger statue...that of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus...Pigafetta stated in his journal that the Queen asked for the statue of the Infant, if this Infant was the same as the one held by the Virgin Mary's statue, then it is possible that the Sto. Nino came with an image of the Virgin...and it is possible that the image of the Virgin was taken by Magellan's men back to Spain, while only the Infant was left behind at Cebu...or that maybe the statue of the Virgin had also been left behind in Cebu, and is probably in the hands of some private collector...(just a theory)

...that it was Pigafetta, not Magellan who gave Queen Juana the Sto. Nino

Le mostrai una immagine de la Nostra Donna, uno bambino di legno bellissimo e una croce....Ne domandō il Bambino per tenerlo in loco de li suoi idoli...

pigafetta showed the queen the Lady (our lady), a beautiful wooden Child and a Cross. and the queen asked for the Child that will be a replacement for their idols... (tenerlo in loco de.. have it in place of.. remember "in loco parentis" meaning "in place of a parent")

...that 'another' Magellan's Cross had been erected at Butuan at an earlier date to that of Cebu's Magellan Cross

the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

...that Queen Juana usually wore a black-and-white gown with a white veil, and was followed by three ladies in waiting, each carrying one of her crowns

...that Magellan swore that if a sick man whom they baptized would not recover, he would then present himself to be decapitated...of course, the sick man recovered as Magellan was not killed in Cebu but in Mactan


i'll try to read some more from the diary. and maybe share some more info with you. :)

bukid
February 16th, 2007, 06:06 PM
you might want to take a break. have some fun. try to guess what are these words in english.

Vocaboli de questi popoli gentili

All'uomo = lac

A la donna = paranpoan

A la giovane = beni beni

A la maritata = babay

A li capelli = bo ho

Al viso = guay

A le palpebre = pilac

A le ciglie = chilei

A l'occhio = matta

Al naso = ilon

A le mascelle = apin

A li labbri = olol

A la bocca = baba

A li denti = nipin

A le gengive = leghex

A la lingua = dilla

A le orecchie = delengan

A la gola = liogh

Al collo = tangip

Al mento = cheilan

A la barba = bonghot

A le spalle = bagha

A la schiena = licud

Al petto = dughan

Al corpo = tiam

Sotto li bracci = ilot

Al braccio = botchen

Al gomito = sico

Al polso = molangai

A la mano = camat

A la palma de la mano = palan

Al dito = dudlo

A la unghia = coco

All'ombelico = pusut

Al membro = utin

A li testicoli = boto

A la natura delle donne = billat

All'usar con loro = tiam

A le culatte = samput

A la coscia = paha

Al ginocchio = tuhad

A lo stinco = bassag bassag

A la polpa della gamba = bitis

A la caviglia = bolbol

Al calcagno = tiochid

A la suola del pič = lapa lapa

All'oro = balaoan

All'argento = pilla

Al laton = concach

Al ferro = butan

Alle canne dolci = tube

Al cuchiaro = gandan

Al riso = bughax baras

Al miele = deghex

A la cera = talho

Al sale = acin

Al vino = tuba nio nipa

Al bere = minuncubil

Al mangiare = macan

Al porco = babui

A la capra = candin

A la gallina = monoch

Al miglio = humas

Al sorgo = batat

Al panico = dana

Al pevere = manissa

A li garofoli = chianche

A la cannella = mana

Al zenzero = luia

A l'aglio = laxuna

A li naranzi = achua

All'ovo = silog

Al cocco = lubi

A l'aceto = zucha

A l'acqua = tubin

Al fuoco = claio

Al fumo = assu

Al soffiare = tigban

Alle bilance = tinban

Al peso = tahil

A la perla = mutiara

A la madre de le perle = tipai

Al male de santo Job = alupalan

Pōrtame = palatin comorica

A certe focacce de riso = tinapai

Buono = maiu

Non = tidale

Al coltello = capol sundan

A le forbici = catle

A tosare = chuntich

All'uomo ben ornato = pixao

A la tela = bulandan

A li panni che se coprono = abaca

Al sonaglio = colon colon

A li paternostri d'ogni sorte = tacle

Al pettine = cutlei missamis

Al pettinare = monsugud

A la camicia = sabun

A la gugia de cusire = dagu

Al cucire = mamis

A la porcellana = moboluc

Al cane = aian ydo

Al gatto = epos

A li sui veli = ghapas

A li cristallini = balus

Vien qui = marica

A la casa = ilaga balai

Al legname = tatamue

A le store dove dormeno = taghichan

A le store de palme = bani

A li cuscini de foglie = uliman

A li piatti de legno = dulan

Al suo Iddio = Abba

Al Sole = adlo

A la luna = songhot

A le stelle = bolan burthun

A la aurora = mone

A la mattina = vema

A la tazza = tagha

Grande = bassal

A l'arco = bossugh

A la frezza = oghon

A li targoni = calassan

A le vesti imbottite per combatter = baluti

A li suoi terziadi = campilan

A le sue daghe = calix baladao

A la lancia = bancan

A li fichi = haghin

A le zucche = baghin

El sale = tuan

A le corde de le sue viole = gatzap

Al fiume = tau

Al rezzaglio per pescare = pucat laia

Al battello = sanpan

A le canne grandi = canaghan

A le piccole = bonbon

A le sue barche grandi = balanghai

A le sue barche piccole = boloto

A li granchi = cuban

Al pesce = isam yssida

A un pesce tutto dipinto = panap sapan

A un altro rosso = timuan

A un certo altro = pilax

A un altro = emalvan

Tutto e uno = siama siama

A uno schiavo = bonsul

A la forca = bolli

A la nave = benaoa

A uno re o capitano generale = raiā.

Numeri

Uno = uzza

Due = dua

Tre = tolo

Quattro = upat

Cinque = lima

Sei = onom

Sette = pitto

Otto = qualu

Nove = siam

Dieci = polo.

it's from pigafetta's account on the language of the native of zubu. it was what he heard and learned from the natives. he calls the zubuanons "gentle people".

bukid
February 16th, 2007, 06:06 PM
you might want to take a break. have some fun. try to guess what are these words in english.

Vocaboli de questi popoli gentili

All'uomo = lac

A la donna = paranpoan

A la giovane = beni beni

A la maritata = babay

A li capelli = bo ho

Al viso = guay

A le palpebre = pilac

A le ciglie = chilei

A l'occhio = matta

Al naso = ilon

A le mascelle = apin

A li labbri = olol

A la bocca = baba

A li denti = nipin

A le gengive = leghex

A la lingua = dilla

A le orecchie = delengan

A la gola = liogh

Al collo = tangip

Al mento = cheilan

A la barba = bonghot

A le spalle = bagha

A la schiena = licud

Al petto = dughan

Al corpo = tiam

Sotto li bracci = ilot

Al braccio = botchen

Al gomito = sico

Al polso = molangai

A la mano = camat

A la palma de la mano = palan

Al dito = dudlo

A la unghia = coco

All'ombelico = pusut

Al membro = utin

A li testicoli = boto

A la natura delle donne = billat

All'usar con loro = tiam

A le culatte = samput

A la coscia = paha

Al ginocchio = tuhad

A lo stinco = bassag bassag

A la polpa della gamba = bitis

A la caviglia = bolbol

Al calcagno = tiochid

A la suola del pič = lapa lapa

All'oro = balaoan

All'argento = pilla

Al laton = concach

Al ferro = butan

Alle canne dolci = tube

Al cuchiaro = gandan

Al riso = bughax baras

Al miele = deghex

A la cera = talho

Al sale = acin

Al vino = tuba nio nipa

Al bere = minuncubil

Al mangiare = macan

Al porco = babui

A la capra = candin

A la gallina = monoch

Al miglio = humas

Al sorgo = batat

Al panico = dana

Al pevere = manissa

A li garofoli = chianche

A la cannella = mana

Al zenzero = luia

A l'aglio = laxuna

A li naranzi = achua

All'ovo = silog

Al cocco = lubi

A l'aceto = zucha

A l'acqua = tubin

Al fuoco = claio

Al fumo = assu

Al soffiare = tigban

Alle bilance = tinban

Al peso = tahil

A la perla = mutiara

A la madre de le perle = tipai

Al male de santo Job = alupalan

Pōrtame = palatin comorica

A certe focacce de riso = tinapai

Buono = maiu

Non = tidale

Al coltello = capol sundan

A le forbici = catle

A tosare = chuntich

All'uomo ben ornato = pixao

A la tela = bulandan

A li panni che se coprono = abaca

Al sonaglio = colon colon

A li paternostri d'ogni sorte = tacle

Al pettine = cutlei missamis

Al pettinare = monsugud

A la camicia = sabun

A la gugia de cusire = dagu

Al cucire = mamis

A la porcellana = moboluc

Al cane = aian ydo

Al gatto = epos

A li sui veli = ghapas

A li cristallini = balus

Vien qui = marica

A la casa = ilaga balai

Al legname = tatamue

A le store dove dormeno = taghichan

A le store de palme = bani

A li cuscini de foglie = uliman

A li piatti de legno = dulan

Al suo Iddio = Abba

Al Sole = adlo

A la luna = songhot

A le stelle = bolan burthun

A la aurora = mone

A la mattina = vema

A la tazza = tagha

Grande = bassal

A l'arco = bossugh

A la frezza = oghon

A li targoni = calassan

A le vesti imbottite per combatter = baluti

A li suoi terziadi = campilan

A le sue daghe = calix baladao

A la lancia = bancan

A li fichi = haghin

A le zucche = baghin

El sale = tuan

A le corde de le sue viole = gatzap

Al fiume = tau

Al rezzaglio per pescare = pucat laia

Al battello = sanpan

A le canne grandi = canaghan

A le piccole = bonbon

A le sue barche grandi = balanghai

A le sue barche piccole = boloto

A li granchi = cuban

Al pesce = isam yssida

A un pesce tutto dipinto = panap sapan

A un altro rosso = timuan

A un certo altro = pilax

A un altro = emalvan

Tutto e uno = siama siama

A uno schiavo = bonsul

A la forca = bolli

A la nave = benaoa

A uno re o capitano generale = raiā.

Numeri

Uno = uzza

Due = dua

Tre = tolo

Quattro = upat

Cinque = lima

Sei = onom

Sette = pitto

Otto = qualu

Nove = siam

Dieci = polo.

it's from pigafetta's account on the language of the native of zubu. it was what he heard and learned from the natives. he calls the zubuanons "gentle people".

flesh_is_weak
February 17th, 2007, 01:32 AM
i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

-->my bad...i made a hasty generalization for this one...i just inferred that if this town would have as much as 4 leaders, then it had to be quite big...

the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

-->but wasnt this island part of the dominion of the King of Butuan? so although not physically part of butuan, it was still technicaly part of butuan...

@bernie: there's an online version...one in english, and another is a downloadable copy of the original...but i cant understand Italian, so i stuck with the other version...
@bukid: i'd love to hear more from you, considering that you have skill in foreign languages, you could shed some light on our island's past...ironic though that we learn our history from the accounts of foreigners and not those of our ancestors...

just a thought, it's kind of a cliche that cebu's history began with the coming of the spaniards, which is of course incorrect, but with the dearth of writings from the pre-colonial period, i wonder how we'll be able to learn about our past...damn, since it's pre-spanish cebu that charms me more than our past as a spanish colony, i'd love to learn more about that glorious kingdom of old that according to some accounts, traded with and threatened many great nations...

@arnold: pwede man tingali mo-sulod diha...palit lang ug bisan unsa gikan sa hardware...

flesh_is_weak
February 17th, 2007, 01:32 AM
i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

-->my bad...i made a hasty generalization for this one...i just inferred that if this town would have as much as 4 leaders, then it had to be quite big...

the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

-->but wasnt this island part of the dominion of the King of Butuan? so although not physically part of butuan, it was still technicaly part of butuan...

@bernie: there's an online version...one in english, and another is a downloadable copy of the original...but i cant understand Italian, so i stuck with the other version...
@bukid: i'd love to hear more from you, considering that you have skill in foreign languages, you could shed some light on our island's past...ironic though that we learn our history from the accounts of foreigners and not those of our ancestors...

just a thought, it's kind of a cliche that cebu's history began with the coming of the spaniards, which is of course incorrect, but with the dearth of writings from the pre-colonial period, i wonder how we'll be able to learn about our past...damn, since it's pre-spanish cebu that charms me more than our past as a spanish colony, i'd love to learn more about that glorious kingdom of old that according to some accounts, traded with and threatened many great nations...

@arnold: pwede man tingali mo-sulod diha...palit lang ug bisan unsa gikan sa hardware...

bukid
February 17th, 2007, 02:26 AM
i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

-->my bad...i made a hasty generalization for this one...i just inferred that if this town would have as much as 4 leaders, then it had to be quite big...


the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

-->but wasnt this island part of the dominion of the King of Butuan? so although not physically part of butuan, it was still technicaly part of butuan...

@bernie: there's an online version...one in english, and another is a downloadable copy of the original...but i cant understand Italian, so i stuck with the other version...
@bukid: i'd love to hear more from you, considering that you have skill in foreign languages, you could shed some light on our island's past...ironic though that we learn our history from the accounts of foreigners and not those of our ancestors...



i am still researching on the meaning of pigafetta's "villa" because in present day italian a "villa" is a house or a cottage while a village would be a "villaggio". the word i found in the diary is "villa". could it be that these people lived in big communal houses with extended family that live together and were headed by the patriarch of the clan?!? we do know that the southeast asians, even the polynesians have a practice of building communal houses where they live together with their extended family. so these chiefs are most likely just patriarchs of the clans or family that are under humabon.

erratum: Il nome de la sua villa era Matan i translated it as houses. "villa" is singular, "ville" (plural). it should be "the name of its house is Matan."

from the way it is written, sounds like the names that we presume were towns may not have been towns at all. they are probably names of the clans under humabon. whose houses (physical) are named after the clan where extended family of such clan lived inside the same house. with each clan headed by a clan chief or with bigger clans, they might have a group of chiefs for one house/clan.

as for mazaua, it never said that mazaua was part of butuan, readers and translators just made those presumptions.

i'll try to read more and share these informations. yes, it is ironic that we are learning our history from the accounts of foreigners and not our own ancestors. we know that there are two sides of a story. take for example china, it may write an account of how the people of other land paid tribute to the chinese emperor but to the inhabitants of the non-chinese kingdom and their king, what they gave the chinese were never tributes but gifts that were given to show friendship and respect to an equal.

bukid
February 17th, 2007, 02:26 AM
i would say, it would be inaacurate to say Cinghapola is a major town because the pigafetta account only listed the settlements found in Zubu. though the first one mentioned is "Cinghapola". it didnt say "Cinghapola" is a major town rather it only said that there were many houses/villas (settlements??) in the island and mentioned "Cinghapola" with its chiefs as Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat. another settlement is called "Mandani" whose chief is "Cimabul", chief "Apanovan" has "Lalan", chief "Theten" has "Lalutan". chief "Iapan" has "Cilumai" and another one called "Lubucun". And it said, they were all obedient, some gave vittuaglia (i dont know what's that) and paid tribute.

-->my bad...i made a hasty generalization for this one...i just inferred that if this town would have as much as 4 leaders, then it had to be quite big...


the original (not the versions of the original diary) pigafetta account didnt say "butuan". it say "mazaua". and the port was an "isole" or island. it is obviously not the present day butuan but an island somewhere off the coasts of leyte, samar, surigao and butuan. it is also not limasawa. there are still studies going on and they're still looking for that island called mazaua by pigafetta.

-->but wasnt this island part of the dominion of the King of Butuan? so although not physically part of butuan, it was still technicaly part of butuan...

@bernie: there's an online version...one in english, and another is a downloadable copy of the original...but i cant understand Italian, so i stuck with the other version...
@bukid: i'd love to hear more from you, considering that you have skill in foreign languages, you could shed some light on our island's past...ironic though that we learn our history from the accounts of foreigners and not those of our ancestors...



i am still researching on the meaning of pigafetta's "villa" because in present day italian a "villa" is a house or a cottage while a village would be a "villaggio". the word i found in the diary is "villa". could it be that these people lived in big communal houses with extended family that live together and were headed by the patriarch of the clan?!? we do know that the southeast asians, even the polynesians have a practice of building communal houses where they live together with their extended family. so these chiefs are most likely just patriarchs of the clans or family that are under humabon.

erratum: Il nome de la sua villa era Matan i translated it as houses. "villa" is singular, "ville" (plural). it should be "the name of its house is Matan."

from the way it is written, sounds like the names that we presume were towns may not have been towns at all. they are probably names of the clans under humabon. whose houses (physical) are named after the clan where extended family of such clan lived inside the same house. with each clan headed by a clan chief or with bigger clans, they might have a group of chiefs for one house/clan.

as for mazaua, it never said that mazaua was part of butuan, readers and translators just made those presumptions.

i'll try to read more and share these informations. yes, it is ironic that we are learning our history from the accounts of foreigners and not our own ancestors. we know that there are two sides of a story. take for example china, it may write an account of how the people of other land paid tribute to the chinese emperor but to the inhabitants of the non-chinese kingdom and their king, what they gave the chinese were never tributes but gifts that were given to show friendship and respect to an equal.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:42 PM
hi guys,

here's a tip. you dont have to go to manila to read of old history records and you dont have to be historians too. some schools may have historical sources in their libraries. you can consult the 55 volume Blair and Robertson which is the Bible of Filipino historians. BR is both in the original Spanish or in the case of Pigafetta in Italian with English translation.

in the Filipiniana library of the University of San Carlos, they have two copies of the BR. One is an original 1909 set and the other printed sometime in the 1960s or better yet grab a copy of the two CD digitized version distributed by BPI.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:42 PM
hi guys,

here's a tip. you dont have to go to manila to read of old history records and you dont have to be historians too. some schools may have historical sources in their libraries. you can consult the 55 volume Blair and Robertson which is the Bible of Filipino historians. BR is both in the original Spanish or in the case of Pigafetta in Italian with English translation.

in the Filipiniana library of the University of San Carlos, they have two copies of the BR. One is an original 1909 set and the other printed sometime in the 1960s or better yet grab a copy of the two CD digitized version distributed by BPI.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:46 PM
by the way, you cant get anything from the RMAO in Mandaue City except school records.

you can also visit the Cebuano Studies Center in USC on everything about Cebu and the Cebuanos. it is one goldmine just awaiting to be discovered.

if you're lucky, you may even find Dr. Resil Mojares there who is an authority in Cebuano history.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:46 PM
by the way, you cant get anything from the RMAO in Mandaue City except school records.

you can also visit the Cebuano Studies Center in USC on everything about Cebu and the Cebuanos. it is one goldmine just awaiting to be discovered.

if you're lucky, you may even find Dr. Resil Mojares there who is an authority in Cebuano history.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:58 PM
@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 17th, 2007, 03:58 PM
@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

southernbelle
February 17th, 2007, 09:27 PM
^^ Hello bai bantayanon! Thanks very much for your tips! Re digitized cd, you mean Bank of the Philippine Islands ba siya available? Kay I am interested to get copies of those. :)

I must admit, because of Pirena and Arnold, I got interested more of our past! hehehe.

southernbelle
February 17th, 2007, 09:27 PM
^^ Hello bai bantayanon! Thanks very much for your tips! Re digitized cd, you mean Bank of the Philippine Islands ba siya available? Kay I am interested to get copies of those. :)

I must admit, because of Pirena and Arnold, I got interested more of our past! hehehe.

vatics
February 18th, 2007, 01:40 AM
@southernbelle: same here. the more i read about our cebu's "pre-contact" era, the more i love cebu. it is through understanding our past that we get to value the present and the future.

it's about time that cebu's history be known among cebuanos but hopefully this time it will not account the battle of mactan and christianization of cebu. it should go beyond those commonly told historical accounts like the lifestyle of the old cebu or perhaps how was carcar then or bantayan. showcasing the historical past of each town within cebu province (hopefully sa atong magazine) will make every town residents proud of their own rich heritage and better understanding of how their forefathers lived.

vatics
February 18th, 2007, 01:40 AM
@southernbelle: same here. the more i read about our cebu's "pre-contact" era, the more i love cebu. it is through understanding our past that we get to value the present and the future.

it's about time that cebu's history be known among cebuanos but hopefully this time it will not account the battle of mactan and christianization of cebu. it should go beyond those commonly told historical accounts like the lifestyle of the old cebu or perhaps how was carcar then or bantayan. showcasing the historical past of each town within cebu province (hopefully sa atong magazine) will make every town residents proud of their own rich heritage and better understanding of how their forefathers lived.

Animo
February 18th, 2007, 02:22 AM
just a thought, it's kind of a cliche that cebu's history began with the coming of the spaniards, which is of course incorrect, but with the dearth of writings from the pre-colonial period, i wonder how we'll be able to learn about our past...damn, since it's pre-spanish cebu that charms me more than our past as a spanish colony, i'd love to learn more about that glorious kingdom of old that according to some accounts, traded with and threatened many great nations...[QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ang_Bantayanon;11779384]@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

Correct, it was more oral tradition with different degrees of truths and lies that gets to be passed on to the next generations. It was later on in the colonial period where the paper (papel), pen (pluma), book (libro) and notebook (cuaderno) were introduced that helped bring the Cebuano history permanently in history.

Animo
February 18th, 2007, 02:22 AM
just a thought, it's kind of a cliche that cebu's history began with the coming of the spaniards, which is of course incorrect, but with the dearth of writings from the pre-colonial period, i wonder how we'll be able to learn about our past...damn, since it's pre-spanish cebu that charms me more than our past as a spanish colony, i'd love to learn more about that glorious kingdom of old that according to some accounts, traded with and threatened many great nations...[QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ang_Bantayanon;11779384]@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

Correct, it was more oral tradition with different degrees of truths and lies that gets to be passed on to the next generations. It was later on in the colonial period where the paper (papel), pen (pluma), book (libro) and notebook (cuaderno) were introduced that helped bring the Cebuano history permanently in history.

flesh_is_weak
February 18th, 2007, 02:25 PM
attention, heritage seekers, when you have time, do take a drive down the southern part of the province and visit the towns south of barili...

just came from badian, and i noticed a lot of old houses, churches, and other buildings in those charming little towns...

flesh_is_weak
February 18th, 2007, 02:25 PM
attention, heritage seekers, when you have time, do take a drive down the southern part of the province and visit the towns south of barili...

just came from badian, and i noticed a lot of old houses, churches, and other buildings in those charming little towns...

bukid
February 18th, 2007, 04:29 PM
i saw an old church before in dumanjug. it was old and in need of repair or restoration. from what i heard from the locals, the church was made from blocks of stones with "apog" and eggwhites that holds the stones in place. but that was before year 2000. i dont know if they had already done something about it.

bukid
February 18th, 2007, 04:29 PM
i saw an old church before in dumanjug. it was old and in need of repair or restoration. from what i heard from the locals, the church was made from blocks of stones with "apog" and eggwhites that holds the stones in place. but that was before year 2000. i dont know if they had already done something about it.

tigidig14
February 18th, 2007, 10:20 PM
ey wouldnt you guys take a pics of that short street that considered to be the vigan of cebu

tigidig14
February 18th, 2007, 10:20 PM
ey wouldnt you guys take a pics of that short street that considered to be the vigan of cebu

Ang_Bantayanon
February 19th, 2007, 05:26 AM
^^ Hello bai bantayanon! Thanks very much for your tips! Re digitized cd, you mean Bank of the Philippine Islands ba siya available? Kay I am interested to get copies of those. :)

I must admit, because of Pirena and Arnold, I got interested more of our past! hehehe.

@southernbelle, Im not sure if availabale pa ba ang CD because those were given only to institutions to commemorate the centenary of Philippine Independence, but there are a few individuals who were able to obtain copies primarily by having it burned from the original.

for other people interested in Spanish documentary sources, there is also a 10 volume set done by Gregorio Zaide and published by National Bookstore, although Im not sure if it is still available.

for Filipino-culture appreciation beginners, I would like to recommend the book Authentic but not Exotic by Fernando Nakpil Zialcita. A beautiful book, it would surely make one appreciate our culture more. it is a National Book awardee by the way.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 19th, 2007, 05:26 AM
^^ Hello bai bantayanon! Thanks very much for your tips! Re digitized cd, you mean Bank of the Philippine Islands ba siya available? Kay I am interested to get copies of those. :)

I must admit, because of Pirena and Arnold, I got interested more of our past! hehehe.

@southernbelle, Im not sure if availabale pa ba ang CD because those were given only to institutions to commemorate the centenary of Philippine Independence, but there are a few individuals who were able to obtain copies primarily by having it burned from the original.

for other people interested in Spanish documentary sources, there is also a 10 volume set done by Gregorio Zaide and published by National Bookstore, although Im not sure if it is still available.

for Filipino-culture appreciation beginners, I would like to recommend the book Authentic but not Exotic by Fernando Nakpil Zialcita. A beautiful book, it would surely make one appreciate our culture more. it is a National Book awardee by the way.

Gibb
February 19th, 2007, 07:07 AM
CARCAR Train Station

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg

Steam-powered locomotives used to refuel inside this structure. The wooden roof panels still in use today.

The owner of the lots is selling this. Hope the local government acquires this historical site.

Gibb
February 19th, 2007, 07:07 AM
CARCAR Train Station

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Train02.jpg

Steam-powered locomotives used to refuel inside this structure. The wooden roof panels still in use today.

The owner of the lots is selling this. Hope the local government acquires this historical site.

Gibb
February 19th, 2007, 07:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente03.jpg

Gibb
February 19th, 2007, 07:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente03.jpg

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 09:51 AM
Capitol
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/capitol.jpg


Cathedral
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/phil-cebuchurch.jpg


Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Church (original church destroyed, contemporary church now part of USJ-R)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Cebu2.jpg


Warehouses
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Cebu1.jpg


Fort San Pedro
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/pedro9.jpg


Colon
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/colon.jpg

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 09:51 AM
Capitol
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/capitol.jpg


Cathedral
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/phil-cebuchurch.jpg


Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Church (original church destroyed, contemporary church now part of USJ-R)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Cebu2.jpg


Warehouses
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Cebu1.jpg


Fort San Pedro
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/pedro9.jpg


Colon
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/colon.jpg

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Old Cebu photos from the internet




A ship docks
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48397.jpg



Cebuanas
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63716.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63718.jpg



"Pier Uno"
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4652.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48453.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4644.jpg



Life
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4646.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x49385.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4650.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4651.jpg


Waterfront
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4648.jpg


Wrestling
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48340.jpg


Sabong
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4657.jpg


Shipbuilding
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4658.jpg


Santo Niņo Church interiors? (there's a similar photo in the museum:okay:)
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63715.jpg

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Old Cebu photos from the internet




A ship docks
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48397.jpg



Cebuanas
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63716.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63718.jpg



"Pier Uno"
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4652.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48453.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4644.jpg



Life
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4646.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x49385.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4650.jpg

http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4651.jpg


Waterfront
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4648.jpg


Wrestling
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x48340.jpg


Sabong
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4657.jpg


Shipbuilding
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/x4658.jpg


Santo Niņo Church interiors? (there's a similar photo in the museum:okay:)
http://138.23.124.164/images/kmast2/geographic/asia/philippineislands/cebu/details/ku63715.jpg

jrevalde
February 19th, 2007, 11:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente02.jpg




naunsa mang bermuda sa fuente kulangag fertilizer, na brown naman cya:ohno:

jrevalde
February 19th, 2007, 11:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/kenzo_214/archi%20and%20heritage/Fuente02.jpg




naunsa mang bermuda sa fuente kulangag fertilizer, na brown naman cya:ohno:

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 12:26 PM
^^

Grass is shade intolerant bro. Aside from that, summer is almost here. Hehe.

LordCarnal
February 19th, 2007, 12:26 PM
^^

Grass is shade intolerant bro. Aside from that, summer is almost here. Hehe.

IsabelPresley
February 19th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

IsabelPresley
February 19th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

bukid
February 20th, 2007, 06:42 AM
Tsinoy: The Story of the Chinese in Philippine Life
by:Kaisa Para sa Kaunlaran, Inc.

Centuries before the Europeans started their search for an alternate route to the Spice Islands or the Moluccas, Chinese merchants already had harmonious trade and tribute relations with the islands at the far end of Southeast Asia.

The Chinese were a literary people who took special interest in noting down foreign lands and curious customs. Dynastic annals, travel accounts, customs records and ancient maps depicting Luzon, Mindanao, Visayas, Sulu, Pangasinan, Ilocos, Maguindanao, Cebu and Panay, among others, show the depth and breadth of relations between the Chinese and the natives of these islands.

Chao Ju Kua, a Chinese superintendent of trade and an earned customs inspector, wrote vivid descriptions of places such as Ma-I, San-su, Pisho-ye, Papuyan, Pulilu, which are identified to be islands in the Philippines.

His accounts were complied and published into a book, Zhu Fan Zhi, in 1225.

Other early Chinese accounts that mentioned various islands in the Philippines are Wang Dayan’s Dao-I Chi Lue (Barbarians of the Isles) and Tong Xi Yang Kao (East-West Ocean Examination).

Chinese navigational maps from the Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644-1911) dynasties include the "Map of Observing the World," "Complete Map of All Nations" and "Maps of the Islands in the Pacific Ocean." Many of these early maps contained illustrations of major islands like Lu-song, Min-ta-lao, Ma-yi, San-Su and Sulu in the Philippines (before it was so named by the Spaniards).

For example, the "Complete Map of the Four Seas"—which was included in the 1781 Atlas of Maps for Observing Foreign Countries—described Ok-tong Island as a big island and a busy port between Cebu and Panay. Further research of ancient Philippine maps reveal the Ok-tong is actually Ogtong, one of the five major ports in the Philippines, which later became the capital of Panay.

Travel was not limited to the Chinese coming to the Philippines. Dynastic annals and other historical records tell of two-way trade exchanges. The earliest mention of Ma-I is in the Song Shi (History of Song) in 971 AD. The earliest travel of Filipinos to China is also recorded in Song Shi in 982 AD when people of Ba-i (now Laguna) went to Canton (now Guangzhou) to trade. Chinese goods like gold, silver, lead, tin, silk, and porcelain were exchanged for native goods like aromatics, rhinoceros horn, coral, pearls, tortoise shells, sea turtle leather and hardwood. Trading was done through ships that traveled across established and profitable sea routes.

A tributary bond eventually developed between the sultans and rajahs of the various kingdoms in the Philippines and the Chinese emperor through centuries of trade and support. Stories of these friendships are told and retold in Chinese records as the Chinese continued their sojourns to the Islands.

At least 10 rajahs and sultans sent tribute missions to China from the 11th to 15th century. The first mission was from King Qiling of Butuan in 1003, followed by other missions in 1004, 1007 and 1011. The Ming annals also mentioned several tribute embassies, such as Luzon tributes in 1417, 1420, 1421, 1423 and 1424.

Early Chinese accounts of the Philippines

These maps, dynastic annals, travel accounts and other early records, as well as the wealth of artifacts unearthed all over the country, stand as mute evidence of the extensive and intensive trading and tributary relations between the Chinese and early Filipinos.

The traders also became cultural brokers who introduced a wealth of knowledge and technology to the local people. A peaceful and harmonious relationship strengthened as the two peoples grew to become friends and even family. Their stories and sagas continue to be written to this day.

Trade relations

Chinese jars, vases, ceramics and coins of the Tang Dynasty (A.D. 618-907) have been excavated in various parts if the country, especially in coastal settlements. Panay, Pangasinan, Rizal, Sulu, Butuan, Cagayan, Laguna, Batangas and Santa Ana, Manila, are among the sites that have yielded significant finds.

The trade wares were brought to the Philippines either directly by Chinese traders or indirectly by Arab and Indian traders who dominated Southeast Asia’s maritime trade before the 10th century.

The traders followed the trade winds, heading south before the northeast monsoon and returning home with the southwest monsoon. The Chinese had an advantage over the Arabs and the Indians because of their early discovery of the south-pointing needle—the earliest version of the mariner’s compass—their possession of navigational maps, their extensive knowledge of their trading partners, and their sturdier and bigger junks designed to survive turbulent typhoons in the open seas.

Trade with the Chinese was carried out wholesale. Merchandise loaded in junks were controlled by the flow of trade from the Pasig River, receiving goods from foreign traders and passing them on to people in the provinces through the tributaries of the Pasig and other river systems. The Chinese farmed out their goods to native traders on credit. In turn, the natives brought the goods inland and came back after weeks—even months—with native products for exchange.

Cultural relations

Some Chinese traders settled and intermarried with natives. They built better houses and taught their families technology like bringing water down from the mountains and better ways of living. The Chinese realized that it was economically advantageous to promote the well-being of their communities whose welfare had a district effect on the prosperity or decline of their own commercial activities.

Their efforts at developing their communities, including the extension of credit, allowed the Chinese to prosper in the Philippines. The early Chinese influence during this period is largely economic; apparently they did not interfere with native political institutions. In language, almost all words in Malayan languages that can be traced to Chinese sources are either economic or commercial in origin.

None of the trading ships came on a warlike mission, and those that eventually settled in the Philippine Islands were accepted as part of native communities. The natives adopted desirable Chinese customs and traditions; the settlers, desirable native customs and traditions.

====

if you are into pre-spanish history of cebu. the chinese annals might help you because china had a trade relationship with cebu during pre-spanish times. wish we can find those maps and Dynastic annals and other historical records.

bukid
February 20th, 2007, 06:42 AM
Tsinoy: The Story of the Chinese in Philippine Life
by:Kaisa Para sa Kaunlaran, Inc.

Centuries before the Europeans started their search for an alternate route to the Spice Islands or the Moluccas, Chinese merchants already had harmonious trade and tribute relations with the islands at the far end of Southeast Asia.

The Chinese were a literary people who took special interest in noting down foreign lands and curious customs. Dynastic annals, travel accounts, customs records and ancient maps depicting Luzon, Mindanao, Visayas, Sulu, Pangasinan, Ilocos, Maguindanao, Cebu and Panay, among others, show the depth and breadth of relations between the Chinese and the natives of these islands.

Chao Ju Kua, a Chinese superintendent of trade and an earned customs inspector, wrote vivid descriptions of places such as Ma-I, San-su, Pisho-ye, Papuyan, Pulilu, which are identified to be islands in the Philippines.

His accounts were complied and published into a book, Zhu Fan Zhi, in 1225.

Other early Chinese accounts that mentioned various islands in the Philippines are Wang Dayan’s Dao-I Chi Lue (Barbarians of the Isles) and Tong Xi Yang Kao (East-West Ocean Examination).

Chinese navigational maps from the Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644-1911) dynasties include the "Map of Observing the World," "Complete Map of All Nations" and "Maps of the Islands in the Pacific Ocean." Many of these early maps contained illustrations of major islands like Lu-song, Min-ta-lao, Ma-yi, San-Su and Sulu in the Philippines (before it was so named by the Spaniards).

For example, the "Complete Map of the Four Seas"—which was included in the 1781 Atlas of Maps for Observing Foreign Countries—described Ok-tong Island as a big island and a busy port between Cebu and Panay. Further research of ancient Philippine maps reveal the Ok-tong is actually Ogtong, one of the five major ports in the Philippines, which later became the capital of Panay.

Travel was not limited to the Chinese coming to the Philippines. Dynastic annals and other historical records tell of two-way trade exchanges. The earliest mention of Ma-I is in the Song Shi (History of Song) in 971 AD. The earliest travel of Filipinos to China is also recorded in Song Shi in 982 AD when people of Ba-i (now Laguna) went to Canton (now Guangzhou) to trade. Chinese goods like gold, silver, lead, tin, silk, and porcelain were exchanged for native goods like aromatics, rhinoceros horn, coral, pearls, tortoise shells, sea turtle leather and hardwood. Trading was done through ships that traveled across established and profitable sea routes.

A tributary bond eventually developed between the sultans and rajahs of the various kingdoms in the Philippines and the Chinese emperor through centuries of trade and support. Stories of these friendships are told and retold in Chinese records as the Chinese continued their sojourns to the Islands.

At least 10 rajahs and sultans sent tribute missions to China from the 11th to 15th century. The first mission was from King Qiling of Butuan in 1003, followed by other missions in 1004, 1007 and 1011. The Ming annals also mentioned several tribute embassies, such as Luzon tributes in 1417, 1420, 1421, 1423 and 1424.

Early Chinese accounts of the Philippines

These maps, dynastic annals, travel accounts and other early records, as well as the wealth of artifacts unearthed all over the country, stand as mute evidence of the extensive and intensive trading and tributary relations between the Chinese and early Filipinos.

The traders also became cultural brokers who introduced a wealth of knowledge and technology to the local people. A peaceful and harmonious relationship strengthened as the two peoples grew to become friends and even family. Their stories and sagas continue to be written to this day.

Trade relations

Chinese jars, vases, ceramics and coins of the Tang Dynasty (A.D. 618-907) have been excavated in various parts if the country, especially in coastal settlements. Panay, Pangasinan, Rizal, Sulu, Butuan, Cagayan, Laguna, Batangas and Santa Ana, Manila, are among the sites that have yielded significant finds.

The trade wares were brought to the Philippines either directly by Chinese traders or indirectly by Arab and Indian traders who dominated Southeast Asia’s maritime trade before the 10th century.

The traders followed the trade winds, heading south before the northeast monsoon and returning home with the southwest monsoon. The Chinese had an advantage over the Arabs and the Indians because of their early discovery of the south-pointing needle—the earliest version of the mariner’s compass—their possession of navigational maps, their extensive knowledge of their trading partners, and their sturdier and bigger junks designed to survive turbulent typhoons in the open seas.

Trade with the Chinese was carried out wholesale. Merchandise loaded in junks were controlled by the flow of trade from the Pasig River, receiving goods from foreign traders and passing them on to people in the provinces through the tributaries of the Pasig and other river systems. The Chinese farmed out their goods to native traders on credit. In turn, the natives brought the goods inland and came back after weeks—even months—with native products for exchange.

Cultural relations

Some Chinese traders settled and intermarried with natives. They built better houses and taught their families technology like bringing water down from the mountains and better ways of living. The Chinese realized that it was economically advantageous to promote the well-being of their communities whose welfare had a district effect on the prosperity or decline of their own commercial activities.

Their efforts at developing their communities, including the extension of credit, allowed the Chinese to prosper in the Philippines. The early Chinese influence during this period is largely economic; apparently they did not interfere with native political institutions. In language, almost all words in Malayan languages that can be traced to Chinese sources are either economic or commercial in origin.

None of the trading ships came on a warlike mission, and those that eventually settled in the Philippine Islands were accepted as part of native communities. The natives adopted desirable Chinese customs and traditions; the settlers, desirable native customs and traditions.

====

if you are into pre-spanish history of cebu. the chinese annals might help you because china had a trade relationship with cebu during pre-spanish times. wish we can find those maps and Dynastic annals and other historical records.

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

It's so nice to hear that! :yes: indeed, people from cebu are warm people..i'm glad you appreciate that trait of ours..;) thanks @Isabel!

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

It's so nice to hear that! :yes: indeed, people from cebu are warm people..i'm glad you appreciate that trait of ours..;) thanks @Isabel!

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 09:15 AM
@arnold, wow! the pictures are one of a kind, i'm privileged to have seen those pics.thanks! :okay:

i'm not sure if these pics have been posted in the previous thread, anyway, post ko lang (from cebu-online.com)

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cebu.jpg
Hilltop View

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cart.jpg
Carabao-Pulled Cart

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cebubay.jpg
Cebu Bay

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/barracks.jpg
Barracks

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cityhall.jpg

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 09:15 AM
@arnold, wow! the pictures are one of a kind, i'm privileged to have seen those pics.thanks! :okay:

i'm not sure if these pics have been posted in the previous thread, anyway, post ko lang (from cebu-online.com)

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cebu.jpg
Hilltop View

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cart.jpg
Carabao-Pulled Cart

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cebubay.jpg
Cebu Bay

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/barracks.jpg
Barracks

http://cebu-online.com/picture_gallery/gal/Old_Cebu/cityhall.jpg

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Those old pictures of Cebu are really wonderful. Theres so much history in the city but too little we know. Its amazing how life back then was like for cebuanos. I hope that we all look back and appreciate our history. Thank you for showing this to all of us. Great Job Arnold!!

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Those old pictures of Cebu are really wonderful. Theres so much history in the city but too little we know. Its amazing how life back then was like for cebuanos. I hope that we all look back and appreciate our history. Thank you for showing this to all of us. Great Job Arnold!!

LordCarnal
February 20th, 2007, 10:06 AM
^^

Thanks mootown.


@Miaka

Thanks Miaka for posting them.. Some of it have not been posted yet.

Anyway, I actually once had a black and white photo of Fuente Osmeņa rotunda and fountain (circa 1940)........ The problem was someone got it and didn't return it to me.. :bash: I also could not recall anymore who got it.

Anyway, what I have here are pre-war photos of Baguio City (view of city proper with the Baguio cathedral in the background)... kaso, wala man Baguio Heritage thread. hehehehe.. I got these from my grandfather's stash..


//

LordCarnal
February 20th, 2007, 10:06 AM
^^

Thanks mootown.


@Miaka

Thanks Miaka for posting them.. Some of it have not been posted yet.

Anyway, I actually once had a black and white photo of Fuente Osmeņa rotunda and fountain (circa 1940)........ The problem was someone got it and didn't return it to me.. :bash: I also could not recall anymore who got it.

Anyway, what I have here are pre-war photos of Baguio City (view of city proper with the Baguio cathedral in the background)... kaso, wala man Baguio Heritage thread. hehehehe.. I got these from my grandfather's stash..


//

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 10:13 AM
@ vatics, as much as I can, I do some readings now just to educate myself with our past! The more I discover, the more I get engrossed to it!

@ bantayanon, again daghang salamat for the info. It is never too late to explore things such as going back to history. I am guessing you are an authority when it comes to history. :)

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 10:13 AM
@ vatics, as much as I can, I do some readings now just to educate myself with our past! The more I discover, the more I get engrossed to it!

@ bantayanon, again daghang salamat for the info. It is never too late to explore things such as going back to history. I am guessing you are an authority when it comes to history. :)

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

Hello IsabelPresley! In behalf of all the Cebuanos, thank you very much for the compliment! I hope you can visit Cebu soon! :)

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Let me just say that I love the people from Cebu, more than the people from Manila, and I was born in Manila. I haven't had a chance to meet many Cebuanos, I only met a few Cebuanas, I've never met a Cebuano in my life, but from the women I met from Cebu, they've always been the sweetest people I've ever met. :)

Hello IsabelPresley! In behalf of all the Cebuanos, thank you very much for the compliment! I hope you can visit Cebu soon! :)

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Maika Cham Thank you for posting those pix.. like southernbelle said the more we see of our past the more interesting.

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Maika Cham Thank you for posting those pix.. like southernbelle said the more we see of our past the more interesting.

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 10:36 AM
^^ur welcome..;) indeed, the past reminds us how rich we were before and it inspires us to do better so we could take back the pride we once had..

@arnold, dili pwede ipost nimo ang pics sa baguio?it's really interesting to see those pics..:D

miaka_cham
February 20th, 2007, 10:36 AM
^^ur welcome..;) indeed, the past reminds us how rich we were before and it inspires us to do better so we could take back the pride we once had..

@arnold, dili pwede ipost nimo ang pics sa baguio?it's really interesting to see those pics..:D

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Well said.. i couldnt hav said it better myself

Mootown
February 20th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Well said.. i couldnt hav said it better myself

vatics
February 20th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Based from the old pictures, Cebu looks so peaceful and orderly even laid-back but somehow manage to provide all the conveniences of a growing metropolis. We just hope that politicians will contribute in preserving these wonderful and truly Cebuano treasures.

It would be inspiring to see a heritage lane where special tourist buses will stop along the heritage unloading/loading bay where heritage sites are promoted.

vatics
February 20th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Based from the old pictures, Cebu looks so peaceful and orderly even laid-back but somehow manage to provide all the conveniences of a growing metropolis. We just hope that politicians will contribute in preserving these wonderful and truly Cebuano treasures.

It would be inspiring to see a heritage lane where special tourist buses will stop along the heritage unloading/loading bay where heritage sites are promoted.

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 11:51 AM
There are 7 bells at the basilica. The biggest one is in the middle surrounded by 6 smaller bells and named after some Agustinian saints and to Our Lady.

The stairs leading to the belfry
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5808/stairskx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3687/dsc01379ja8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the biggest one which is located at the center and named after the Holy Child.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1628/bellbsnpc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This, I believed is the oldest one, dating back to 1750?
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7133/1758qf9.jpg

Another one, dated May of 1866
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1506/1866iu2.jpg

This bell was named after Our Lady of Consolation, August 1886
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1773/1886ls3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3649/consolacionwk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One of the smaller bells facing towards the BPI. One can see at the lower left side the statues of the Agustinian saints on top of the Pilgrim Center grounds
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8444/dsc01386rk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6972/dsc01380ii9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I asked my brother to take pictures of the bells of the BSN just so I can contribute something to this thread, but as I was downloading the pictures and typing down the dates, something struck me! These bells as old as they are, truly had and has been part of our history. Imagine, these are witnesses to all the joyous and sad occasions of the Cebuanos! Their sounds are so familiar to us. Their rings beckon and tell us something and yet, these are just one of the things that we don't really give value to... Still, these bells will continue to ring and give life to all our future events and will serve the Cebuanos in the centuries to come! Amen. :)

Thanks to the vice-rector of the basilica for climbing up to the belfry and took these pictures just to make me happy! :lol:

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 11:51 AM
There are 7 bells at the basilica. The biggest one is in the middle surrounded by 6 smaller bells and named after some Agustinian saints and to Our Lady.

The stairs leading to the belfry
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5808/stairskx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3687/dsc01379ja8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the biggest one which is located at the center and named after the Holy Child.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1628/bellbsnpc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This, I believed is the oldest one, dating back to 1750?
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7133/1758qf9.jpg

Another one, dated May of 1866
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1506/1866iu2.jpg

This bell was named after Our Lady of Consolation, August 1886
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1773/1886ls3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3649/consolacionwk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One of the smaller bells facing towards the BPI. One can see at the lower left side the statues of the Agustinian saints on top of the Pilgrim Center grounds
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8444/dsc01386rk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6972/dsc01380ii9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I asked my brother to take pictures of the bells of the BSN just so I can contribute something to this thread, but as I was downloading the pictures and typing down the dates, something struck me! These bells as old as they are, truly had and has been part of our history. Imagine, these are witnesses to all the joyous and sad occasions of the Cebuanos! Their sounds are so familiar to us. Their rings beckon and tell us something and yet, these are just one of the things that we don't really give value to... Still, these bells will continue to ring and give life to all our future events and will serve the Cebuanos in the centuries to come! Amen. :)

Thanks to the vice-rector of the basilica for climbing up to the belfry and took these pictures just to make me happy! :lol:

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Vicente Rubi and the story of "Kasadya"
By Garry B. Lao
The Freeman 02/20/2007

Everyone can effortlessly sing or hum the possibly most popular Philippine carol, "Kasadya Ning Taknaa." But little is known of the man who composed this Visayan Christmas song since its inception in 1933.

SO, WHO WAS THE MAN BEHIND THE "KASADYA"? BORN ON JANUARY 22, 1903, VICENTE DACLAN RUBI, A CEBUANO COMPOSER OF DAYGON (CAROL) AND BALITAW (SONG), WAS 30 YEARS OLD WHEN HE COMPOSED THE "KASADYA" (LITERALLY MEANING "MERRY"), WHICH WAS PURPOSELY WRITTEN TO BE SUNG IN A CEBUANO STAGE PLAY THAT FEATURED A SCENE WITH CAROLERS. VICENTE, IN HIS EARLY AGE, WORKED AS A CONTRACT LABOR FOREMAN IN THE SUGAR FARMS AROUND THE PROVINCE OF CEBU. THE TRADITIONAL TITLE OF RESPECT OF "NOY" WAS AFFIXED TO VICENTE'S NAME. THOUGH NOY INTING ONLY FINISHED HIS ELEMENTARY YEARS AND NEVER HIGH SCHOOL, HE NEVERTHELESS PUT HIS GIFTED TALENTS TO USE BY COMPOSING SONGS.

THE "KASADYA NING TAKNAA" IS BOTH CATCHY AND MELODIOUS, EXUDING THE JOY OF THE TRADITIONAL FILIPINO "PASKO" AND EVOKING VISIONS OF AGUINALDO MASSES, SIKWATE AND PUTO FOR BREAKFAST, AND THE WARMTH OF FAMILY REUNIONS AMIDST CAROLERS SERENADING HOMES.

VICENTE, WHO MARRIED BRIGIDA ASENIERO RUBI, HAS FOUR CHILDREN - RUDOLFO A RUBI, 79; ALBERTO A. RUBI, 76; LUDIVINA RUBI NAJARRO, 72; AND EDILBERTO RUBI, 70.

STORY HAS IT THAT VICENTE COMPOSED "KASADYA" WITH LYRICIST MARIANO VESTIL AT A TIME WHEN THE MOST POPULAR FORMS OF ENTERTAINMENT IN CEBU WERE LIGHT MUSICAL PLAYS.

THE Freeman VISITED LUDIVINA RUBI NAJARRO'S RESIDENCE AND WAS SHOWED A BOXFUL OF COMPOSITIONS, WHICH FAMILY MEMBERS CONSIDER AS THE ONLY PRICELESS POSSESSION LEFT TO THEM. THE BOX CONTAINED SOME NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS, PHOTOGRAPHS AND COMPOSITIONS OF HER FATHER, WHICH WERE WRITTEN IN LONGHAND AND HAVE YELLOWED WITH AGE.

"MAO GYUD NI ANG PINAKAMAHAL NGA BUTANG NGA GIBILIN SA AKONG AMAHAN. BISAN NAWALA NA SIYA ANING KALIBUTANA, ANG IYANG AWIT NAGPABILIN. BISAN TINGALI MAWALA NA PUD MI ANING KALIBUTANA, ANG AWIT NGA KASADYA MAGPABILIN HANGTOD SA HANGTOD," NAJARRO SAID.

NAJARRO SAID THEIR FAMILY IS ALWAYS PROUD EVERY TIME THEY HEAR THE SONG "KASADYA" PLAYED OR SUNG. "DAGHAN ANG WALA NAKAHIBALO NGA AKONG AMAHAN ANG MIMUGNA SA MAONG AWIT APAN BISAN PA MAN NIANA NALIPAY KAMI NGA PADAYON GIHAPON ANG PAGKANTA."

NAJARRO RECALLED HOW HER FATHER LOVED MUSICAL DRAMAS. SHE SAID THAT HIS FATHER WOULD MAKE MUSIC WITH HIS GUITAR. IT WAS HIS WIFE WHO HELPED IN SETTING THE NOTES AND LYRICS OF VICENTE'S COMPOSITIONS INTO FORMAL MUSIC SHEETS.

THE STORY OF "KASADYA" WAS BORN WHERE THE RUBI FAMILY FORMERLY LIVED-WHAT IS NOW P. GULLAS STREET. NEARBY THEN WAS PILI-KANIPAAN (NOW MANALILI STREET) WHERE THE GRANDEST FIESTA IN CEBU WOULD TAKE PLACE EVERY DECEMBER.

RAFAEL POLICARPIO, A CEBUANO PLAYWRIGHT, NEEDED A SONG FOR A DRAMA, WHICH CALLED FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH TANSANS (SOFTDRINKS CROWNS USED AS IMPROVISED CASTANETS) TO SING DAYGON AT THE GATE OF A BIG HOUSE IN EXCHANGE FOR A "PINASKUHAN." HE NEEDED A SONG FOR A CHRISTMAS SCENE AND ASKED VICENTE FOR A COMPOSITION. DURING ONE OF THE REHEARSALS, VICENTE'S NEIGHBOR PROVIDED THE LILTING MELODY WITH LYRICS.

THE SONG BECAME A HIT AFTER THE PLAY WAS STAGED SOMEWHERE IN OPON, NOW LAPU-LAPU CITY. AUDIENCES THEN CAME FROM AS FAR AS BOHOL, NEGROS, LEYTE AND THE NEIGHBORING TOWNS IN THE PROVINCE. HOWEVER, CONTRARY TO EXULTANT ATMOSPHERE OF "KASADYA," VICENTE SUFFERED FROM THE PAINFUL EXPERIENCE OF HAVING THIS CHRISTMAS CAROL OF HIS UNFAIRLY CREDITED TO TAGALOG COMPOSERS WHO CAME OUT WITH THE TRANSLATION, "ANG PASKO AY SUMAPIT."

IT WAS IN 1950 WHEN VICENTE AGREED TO SELL HIS SONG TO THE MARECO RECORDING COMPANY IN MANILA, WHICH GAVE HIM A P50 ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR ROYALTIES AND THREE CENTAVOS FOR EVERY RECORD SOLD. RECORDS OF MARECO'S BOOK SAID THAT VICENTE SONG SOLD 62,812 RECORDS FROM 1966-1975, BUT WHAT VICENTE GOT WAS ONLY P110.25 ROYALTIES IN 1967, WHICH LESS THAN A TENTH OF THE P1,994.63 THAT WHAT WAS OWED TO HIM THEN.

NAJARRO RECALLED THAT THEIR FAMILY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY MORE PAYMENT FROM MARECO'S AFTER VICENTE AND HIS WIFE TRANSFERRED RESIDENCE TWICE, AFTER REPORTEDLY REFUSING TO LIVE WITH THEIR MARRIED CHILDREN. MARECO WAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE THEM.

IT WAS IN THE YEAR 1976 WHEN VICENTE FILED A SUIT AGAINST MARECO IN QUEZON CITY FOR HIS UNPAID ROYALTIES AND RIGHTS. VICENTE'S LAWYER, RAMON CENIZA SAID THAT WHILE MARECO ISSUED CHECKS IN THE NAME OF VICENTE, THE COMPANY DID NOT BOTHER TO LOOK FOR VICENTE IN HIS NEW ADDRESS. BUT THE CASE HAD TO BE DISMISSED SINCE VICENTE COULD NOT EVEN AFFORD TO TRAVEL TO MANILA.

NEVERTHELESS, VICENTE NEVER GAVE UP. IN THE SAME YEAR, THEY PETITIONED THE NATIONAL LIBRARY TO GRANT A COPYRIGHT FOR VICENTE. BUT A LETTER FROM THE NATIONAL LIBRARY SAID: "THE SONG CAN NO LONGER BE COPYRIGHTED FOR RUBI BECAUSE THE WORK IS CONSIDERED BELONGING TO THE PUBLIC AND NO PROTECTION CAN BE SOUGHT UNDER PRESIDENTIAL DECREE 49 OR THE LAW ON INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY."

IN 1979, VICENTE'S LAWYER CENIZA FILED ANOTHER CASE BEFORE A CEBU COURT AND ASKED THE COURT TO EXEMPT HIS CLIENT FROM LITIGATION FEES SINCE HIS CLIENT IS A POOR MAN.

IT WAS IN 1988 WHEN THE CEBU COURT, JUDGE HERNANDO SALAS, GAVE A DECISION IN HIS FAVOR ENTITLING HIM TO GET P1,884.34 DUE HIM FROM 1966-1975.

BUT LIFE RAN OUT ON VICENTE EVEN BEFORE THE DECISION IN HIS FAVOR CAME. BY THEN, VICENTE HAD PASSED AWAY IN NOVEMBER 12, 1980 AFTER LOSING HIS BATTLE WITH PROSTATE CANCER. HE WAS BURIED IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CARRETA CEMETERY.

"PAGKAHIBALO NAMO NGA NAKADAOG MI SA KASO PWERTE NAMONG LIPAYA KAY BISAN WALA NA AKONG PAPA, ANG IYANG GIPAGLABAN NGA KATUNGOD AMONG GIPADAYON," NAJARRO SAID, SAYING THAT EVEN IN HIS DEATHBED, HER FATHER PLEADED TO HER TO KEEP ON THE FIGHT AND PURSUE THE CASE IN COURT FOR HIS AND HIS FRIEND VESTIL'S SAKE.

NAJARRO RECALLED THAT DURING HER FATHER'S LAST FEW MONTHS, VICENTE CONTINUED TO COMPOSE SONGS WITH "MAHANAW ANG TANAN" AS HIS FINAL SONG, PERHAPS INDICATIVE OF THINGS TO COME. AMONG HIS HUNDREDS OF COMPOSITIONS WAS ALSO "CARMELA," WHICH HAS BECOME A POPULAR CEBUANO KUNDIMAN AND IS STILL SUNG BY BALLADEERS TO THIS DAY.

VICENTE PROVED TO BE INEXHAUSTIBLE, COMPOSING SUCH SONGS AS "AMONG DAYGON," "PASKO NGA HALANDUMON," "PASKO NA," "NAG-AMBAHAN," "MAGLIPAY KITA," AMONG OTHERS.

THOUGH HE COMPOSED HUNDREDS OF OTHERS, IT WAS "KASADYA" THAT TRULY ACHIEVED NATIONAL PROMINENCE.

Following his death, Rubi garnered several posthumous awards. Among those who recognized his contribution to Cebuano music were then Cebu City Mayor Florentino Solon, the Province of Cebu, the Cebu Arts Foundation, the Basic Industries Foundation, among others.

Vicente Rubi will also be one of the first recipients, along with "Matud Nila" composer Ben Zubiri, of the Jose R. Gullas Awards, in coordination with The FREEMAN, Banat News and ABS-CBN's dyAB, for attaining the "pinnacle of achievement." "Kasadya" lyricist, Mariano Vestil, will also be recognized in the said occasion that will take place on February 28, 2007, 6pm at the Casino Espaņol de Cebu. Several of their renowned compositions will be performed by the award-winning UV Chorale. Indeed, while Vicente died a pauper, his family, nevertheless, continues to take pride in his priceless and timeless contribution in making Christmas a whole lot merrier and brighter through his song.

southernbelle
February 20th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Vicente Rubi and the story of "Kasadya"
By Garry B. Lao
The Freeman 02/20/2007

Everyone can effortlessly sing or hum the possibly most popular Philippine carol, "Kasadya Ning Taknaa." But little is known of the man who composed this Visayan Christmas song since its inception in 1933.

SO, WHO WAS THE MAN BEHIND THE "KASADYA"? BORN ON JANUARY 22, 1903, VICENTE DACLAN RUBI, A CEBUANO COMPOSER OF DAYGON (CAROL) AND BALITAW (SONG), WAS 30 YEARS OLD WHEN HE COMPOSED THE "KASADYA" (LITERALLY MEANING "MERRY"), WHICH WAS PURPOSELY WRITTEN TO BE SUNG IN A CEBUANO STAGE PLAY THAT FEATURED A SCENE WITH CAROLERS. VICENTE, IN HIS EARLY AGE, WORKED AS A CONTRACT LABOR FOREMAN IN THE SUGAR FARMS AROUND THE PROVINCE OF CEBU. THE TRADITIONAL TITLE OF RESPECT OF "NOY" WAS AFFIXED TO VICENTE'S NAME. THOUGH NOY INTING ONLY FINISHED HIS ELEMENTARY YEARS AND NEVER HIGH SCHOOL, HE NEVERTHELESS PUT HIS GIFTED TALENTS TO USE BY COMPOSING SONGS.

THE "KASADYA NING TAKNAA" IS BOTH CATCHY AND MELODIOUS, EXUDING THE JOY OF THE TRADITIONAL FILIPINO "PASKO" AND EVOKING VISIONS OF AGUINALDO MASSES, SIKWATE AND PUTO FOR BREAKFAST, AND THE WARMTH OF FAMILY REUNIONS AMIDST CAROLERS SERENADING HOMES.

VICENTE, WHO MARRIED BRIGIDA ASENIERO RUBI, HAS FOUR CHILDREN - RUDOLFO A RUBI, 79; ALBERTO A. RUBI, 76; LUDIVINA RUBI NAJARRO, 72; AND EDILBERTO RUBI, 70.

STORY HAS IT THAT VICENTE COMPOSED "KASADYA" WITH LYRICIST MARIANO VESTIL AT A TIME WHEN THE MOST POPULAR FORMS OF ENTERTAINMENT IN CEBU WERE LIGHT MUSICAL PLAYS.

THE Freeman VISITED LUDIVINA RUBI NAJARRO'S RESIDENCE AND WAS SHOWED A BOXFUL OF COMPOSITIONS, WHICH FAMILY MEMBERS CONSIDER AS THE ONLY PRICELESS POSSESSION LEFT TO THEM. THE BOX CONTAINED SOME NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS, PHOTOGRAPHS AND COMPOSITIONS OF HER FATHER, WHICH WERE WRITTEN IN LONGHAND AND HAVE YELLOWED WITH AGE.

"MAO GYUD NI ANG PINAKAMAHAL NGA BUTANG NGA GIBILIN SA AKONG AMAHAN. BISAN NAWALA NA SIYA ANING KALIBUTANA, ANG IYANG AWIT NAGPABILIN. BISAN TINGALI MAWALA NA PUD MI ANING KALIBUTANA, ANG AWIT NGA KASADYA MAGPABILIN HANGTOD SA HANGTOD," NAJARRO SAID.

NAJARRO SAID THEIR FAMILY IS ALWAYS PROUD EVERY TIME THEY HEAR THE SONG "KASADYA" PLAYED OR SUNG. "DAGHAN ANG WALA NAKAHIBALO NGA AKONG AMAHAN ANG MIMUGNA SA MAONG AWIT APAN BISAN PA MAN NIANA NALIPAY KAMI NGA PADAYON GIHAPON ANG PAGKANTA."

NAJARRO RECALLED HOW HER FATHER LOVED MUSICAL DRAMAS. SHE SAID THAT HIS FATHER WOULD MAKE MUSIC WITH HIS GUITAR. IT WAS HIS WIFE WHO HELPED IN SETTING THE NOTES AND LYRICS OF VICENTE'S COMPOSITIONS INTO FORMAL MUSIC SHEETS.

THE STORY OF "KASADYA" WAS BORN WHERE THE RUBI FAMILY FORMERLY LIVED-WHAT IS NOW P. GULLAS STREET. NEARBY THEN WAS PILI-KANIPAAN (NOW MANALILI STREET) WHERE THE GRANDEST FIESTA IN CEBU WOULD TAKE PLACE EVERY DECEMBER.

RAFAEL POLICARPIO, A CEBUANO PLAYWRIGHT, NEEDED A SONG FOR A DRAMA, WHICH CALLED FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH TANSANS (SOFTDRINKS CROWNS USED AS IMPROVISED CASTANETS) TO SING DAYGON AT THE GATE OF A BIG HOUSE IN EXCHANGE FOR A "PINASKUHAN." HE NEEDED A SONG FOR A CHRISTMAS SCENE AND ASKED VICENTE FOR A COMPOSITION. DURING ONE OF THE REHEARSALS, VICENTE'S NEIGHBOR PROVIDED THE LILTING MELODY WITH LYRICS.

THE SONG BECAME A HIT AFTER THE PLAY WAS STAGED SOMEWHERE IN OPON, NOW LAPU-LAPU CITY. AUDIENCES THEN CAME FROM AS FAR AS BOHOL, NEGROS, LEYTE AND THE NEIGHBORING TOWNS IN THE PROVINCE. HOWEVER, CONTRARY TO EXULTANT ATMOSPHERE OF "KASADYA," VICENTE SUFFERED FROM THE PAINFUL EXPERIENCE OF HAVING THIS CHRISTMAS CAROL OF HIS UNFAIRLY CREDITED TO TAGALOG COMPOSERS WHO CAME OUT WITH THE TRANSLATION, "ANG PASKO AY SUMAPIT."

IT WAS IN 1950 WHEN VICENTE AGREED TO SELL HIS SONG TO THE MARECO RECORDING COMPANY IN MANILA, WHICH GAVE HIM A P50 ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR ROYALTIES AND THREE CENTAVOS FOR EVERY RECORD SOLD. RECORDS OF MARECO'S BOOK SAID THAT VICENTE SONG SOLD 62,812 RECORDS FROM 1966-1975, BUT WHAT VICENTE GOT WAS ONLY P110.25 ROYALTIES IN 1967, WHICH LESS THAN A TENTH OF THE P1,994.63 THAT WHAT WAS OWED TO HIM THEN.

NAJARRO RECALLED THAT THEIR FAMILY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY MORE PAYMENT FROM MARECO'S AFTER VICENTE AND HIS WIFE TRANSFERRED RESIDENCE TWICE, AFTER REPORTEDLY REFUSING TO LIVE WITH THEIR MARRIED CHILDREN. MARECO WAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE THEM.

IT WAS IN THE YEAR 1976 WHEN VICENTE FILED A SUIT AGAINST MARECO IN QUEZON CITY FOR HIS UNPAID ROYALTIES AND RIGHTS. VICENTE'S LAWYER, RAMON CENIZA SAID THAT WHILE MARECO ISSUED CHECKS IN THE NAME OF VICENTE, THE COMPANY DID NOT BOTHER TO LOOK FOR VICENTE IN HIS NEW ADDRESS. BUT THE CASE HAD TO BE DISMISSED SINCE VICENTE COULD NOT EVEN AFFORD TO TRAVEL TO MANILA.

NEVERTHELESS, VICENTE NEVER GAVE UP. IN THE SAME YEAR, THEY PETITIONED THE NATIONAL LIBRARY TO GRANT A COPYRIGHT FOR VICENTE. BUT A LETTER FROM THE NATIONAL LIBRARY SAID: "THE SONG CAN NO LONGER BE COPYRIGHTED FOR RUBI BECAUSE THE WORK IS CONSIDERED BELONGING TO THE PUBLIC AND NO PROTECTION CAN BE SOUGHT UNDER PRESIDENTIAL DECREE 49 OR THE LAW ON INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY."

IN 1979, VICENTE'S LAWYER CENIZA FILED ANOTHER CASE BEFORE A CEBU COURT AND ASKED THE COURT TO EXEMPT HIS CLIENT FROM LITIGATION FEES SINCE HIS CLIENT IS A POOR MAN.

IT WAS IN 1988 WHEN THE CEBU COURT, JUDGE HERNANDO SALAS, GAVE A DECISION IN HIS FAVOR ENTITLING HIM TO GET P1,884.34 DUE HIM FROM 1966-1975.

BUT LIFE RAN OUT ON VICENTE EVEN BEFORE THE DECISION IN HIS FAVOR CAME. BY THEN, VICENTE HAD PASSED AWAY IN NOVEMBER 12, 1980 AFTER LOSING HIS BATTLE WITH PROSTATE CANCER. HE WAS BURIED IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CARRETA CEMETERY.

"PAGKAHIBALO NAMO NGA NAKADAOG MI SA KASO PWERTE NAMONG LIPAYA KAY BISAN WALA NA AKONG PAPA, ANG IYANG GIPAGLABAN NGA KATUNGOD AMONG GIPADAYON," NAJARRO SAID, SAYING THAT EVEN IN HIS DEATHBED, HER FATHER PLEADED TO HER TO KEEP ON THE FIGHT AND PURSUE THE CASE IN COURT FOR HIS AND HIS FRIEND VESTIL'S SAKE.

NAJARRO RECALLED THAT DURING HER FATHER'S LAST FEW MONTHS, VICENTE CONTINUED TO COMPOSE SONGS WITH "MAHANAW ANG TANAN" AS HIS FINAL SONG, PERHAPS INDICATIVE OF THINGS TO COME. AMONG HIS HUNDREDS OF COMPOSITIONS WAS ALSO "CARMELA," WHICH HAS BECOME A POPULAR CEBUANO KUNDIMAN AND IS STILL SUNG BY BALLADEERS TO THIS DAY.

VICENTE PROVED TO BE INEXHAUSTIBLE, COMPOSING SUCH SONGS AS "AMONG DAYGON," "PASKO NGA HALANDUMON," "PASKO NA," "NAG-AMBAHAN," "MAGLIPAY KITA," AMONG OTHERS.

THOUGH HE COMPOSED HUNDREDS OF OTHERS, IT WAS "KASADYA" THAT TRULY ACHIEVED NATIONAL PROMINENCE.

Following his death, Rubi garnered several posthumous awards. Among those who recognized his contribution to Cebuano music were then Cebu City Mayor Florentino Solon, the Province of Cebu, the Cebu Arts Foundation, the Basic Industries Foundation, among others.

Vicente Rubi will also be one of the first recipients, along with "Matud Nila" composer Ben Zubiri, of the Jose R. Gullas Awards, in coordination with The FREEMAN, Banat News and ABS-CBN's dyAB, for attaining the "pinnacle of achievement." "Kasadya" lyricist, Mariano Vestil, will also be recognized in the said occasion that will take place on February 28, 2007, 6pm at the Casino Espaņol de Cebu. Several of their renowned compositions will be performed by the award-winning UV Chorale. Indeed, while Vicente died a pauper, his family, nevertheless, continues to take pride in his priceless and timeless contribution in making Christmas a whole lot merrier and brighter through his song.

bukid
February 20th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Philippine money

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/PhilipCEBU10Pes_S217.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/PhilipCEBU1Pes_S215.jpg

i thought there was nothing special about the paper money. but when i took a closer look at what was written, i discovered that it was issued in cebu by the cebu currency committee.

native police, cebu

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/phil2-200.jpg

they look cool, what if we create a police force today that wears something like that in colon. :D

bukid
February 20th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Philippine money

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/PhilipCEBU10Pes_S217.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/PhilipCEBU1Pes_S215.jpg

i thought there was nothing special about the paper money. but when i took a closer look at what was written, i discovered that it was issued in cebu by the cebu currency committee.

native police, cebu

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/phil2-200.jpg

they look cool, what if we create a police force today that wears something like that in colon. :D

LordCarnal
February 20th, 2007, 01:28 PM
@Southernbelle

Amazing photos of the Santo Niņo Basilica belltower!!! Thanks for posting them and kudos to your brother too.

Allow me to post your photos at my blog..

Sayang, we weren't able to take much photos sa interiors sa Monastery sa Santo Niņo, but I still thank you and your brother for lettings us in, hehe.. Wala sad lagi me kahuna2x ug adto sa belltower, hehehehehe..



repost:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/339586830_2d3d1f701f.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/339586835_19c1d1f5a5.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/340147860_0336d78dee.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/339586836_9cb2eb3e32.jpg

LordCarnal
February 20th, 2007, 01:28 PM
@Southernbelle

Amazing photos of the Santo Niņo Basilica belltower!!! Thanks for posting them and kudos to your brother too.

Allow me to post your photos at my blog..

Sayang, we weren't able to take much photos sa interiors sa Monastery sa Santo Niņo, but I still thank you and your brother for lettings us in, hehe.. Wala sad lagi me kahuna2x ug adto sa belltower, hehehehehe..



repost:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/339586830_2d3d1f701f.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/339586835_19c1d1f5a5.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/340147860_0336d78dee.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/339586836_9cb2eb3e32.jpg

flesh_is_weak
February 20th, 2007, 06:34 PM
i am still researching on the meaning of pigafetta's "villa" because in present day italian a "villa" is a house or a cottage while a village would be a "villaggio". the word i found in the diary is "villa". could it be that these people lived in big communal houses with extended family that live together and were headed by the patriarch of the clan?!? we do know that the southeast asians, even the polynesians have a practice of building communal houses where they live together with their extended family. so these chiefs are most likely just patriarchs of the clans or family that are under humabon.

erratum: Il nome de la sua villa era Matan i translated it as houses. "villa" is singular, "ville" (plural). it should be "the name of its house is Matan."

from the way it is written, sounds like the names that we presume were towns may not have been towns at all. they are probably names of the clans under humabon. whose houses (physical) are named after the clan where extended family of such clan lived inside the same house. with each clan headed by a clan chief or with bigger clans, they might have a group of chiefs for one house/clan.



the english translation reads: "Sunday, the 4th of April, about midday, we entered the port of Zzubu, having passed by many villages. There we saw many houses which were built on trees."

this shows a clear distinction between the words village and house i agree with your clan hypothesis...but considering that these clans were quite big, i find it improbable for all of them to dwell all under one roof...i see it like modern day compounds owned by a single clan where they lived in separate houses owned by individual families within a certain plot of land...now, considering the large of size of Humabon's clan, it would be plausible then for the 'Humabon Compound' to be a sizeable community and appear as a town...

note also that Cebu was given the name Villadel Santisimo Nombre de Jesus (Cityof the Holy Name of Jesus) by Legazpi, about half a century after Magellan's demise.

if this was the fact then, it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

flesh_is_weak
February 20th, 2007, 06:34 PM
i am still researching on the meaning of pigafetta's "villa" because in present day italian a "villa" is a house or a cottage while a village would be a "villaggio". the word i found in the diary is "villa". could it be that these people lived in big communal houses with extended family that live together and were headed by the patriarch of the clan?!? we do know that the southeast asians, even the polynesians have a practice of building communal houses where they live together with their extended family. so these chiefs are most likely just patriarchs of the clans or family that are under humabon.

erratum: Il nome de la sua villa era Matan i translated it as houses. "villa" is singular, "ville" (plural). it should be "the name of its house is Matan."

from the way it is written, sounds like the names that we presume were towns may not have been towns at all. they are probably names of the clans under humabon. whose houses (physical) are named after the clan where extended family of such clan lived inside the same house. with each clan headed by a clan chief or with bigger clans, they might have a group of chiefs for one house/clan.



the english translation reads: "Sunday, the 4th of April, about midday, we entered the port of Zzubu, having passed by many villages. There we saw many houses which were built on trees."

this shows a clear distinction between the words village and house i agree with your clan hypothesis...but considering that these clans were quite big, i find it improbable for all of them to dwell all under one roof...i see it like modern day compounds owned by a single clan where they lived in separate houses owned by individual families within a certain plot of land...now, considering the large of size of Humabon's clan, it would be plausible then for the 'Humabon Compound' to be a sizeable community and appear as a town...

note also that Cebu was given the name Villadel Santisimo Nombre de Jesus (Cityof the Holy Name of Jesus) by Legazpi, about half a century after Magellan's demise.

if this was the fact then, it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

flesh_is_weak
February 20th, 2007, 06:37 PM
@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

how does a non-USC student get into the library? i've actually been itching to check the place out but i just cant find the right excuse to make to the guards, nor the right connections to pull the strings to get myself in...

flesh_is_weak
February 20th, 2007, 06:37 PM
@pirena, if you're into pre-contact cebu (that's the more correct term, they say), there's not really much written records. you can check Alcina's work about the lives of the Visayans. Alcina's work is being reprinted by UST. it is currenlty available in bookstores. so far, mura 2 volumes pa'y nigawas. naa pay laing tulo mugawasay. each volume costs P1,100 pero sulit kaayo for the information that you'll get about the Visayan people.

you can also try books dealing on cebuano archaeology. as they say, where history stops, archaeology begins.

how does a non-USC student get into the library? i've actually been itching to check the place out but i just cant find the right excuse to make to the guards, nor the right connections to pull the strings to get myself in...

Ang_Bantayanon
February 21st, 2007, 04:19 AM
@southernbelle, beautiful and interesting pix. do you know that the oldest bell in the visayas today dates back only to 1678 (if i remember the date right)? and it used to hang in the now demolished parian church? sadly, the bell is now in clarin, bohol. last night, i had the chance to talk with mr. ricky jose, the foremost authority on Spanish churches in the Philippines. prof. jose said that it might be difficult to retrieve the bell so that it could be brought back to cebu. anyway, sometime this year, ricky jose will publish a book on philippine church bells and a calendar of saints venerated by filipinos complete with pictures (iconography) from old paintings, wood and ivory santos and those etched on bells and church walls.

@pirena, nagkatawa ko sa imong term. nangatul jud diay ka.. hehe.. non-students may enter the various libraries of USC for a fee. Just tell the guard that you will make a research (depending on your topic but i recommend the filipiniana library and the cebuano studies center.) after which, you will be directed to go to the office of the director of libraries and be asked to pay a small amount and presto! you can make your research. just be sure you already have a topic in mind para di ka madugay in deciding what to look for. good luck.

Ang_Bantayanon
February 21st, 2007, 04:19 AM
@southernbelle, beautiful and interesting pix. do you know that the oldest bell in the visayas today dates back only to 1678 (if i remember the date right)? and it used to hang in the now demolished parian church? sadly, the bell is now in clarin, bohol. last night, i had the chance to talk with mr. ricky jose, the foremost authority on Spanish churches in the Philippines. prof. jose said that it might be difficult to retrieve the bell so that it could be brought back to cebu. anyway, sometime this year, ricky jose will publish a book on philippine church bells and a calendar of saints venerated by filipinos complete with pictures (iconography) from old paintings, wood and ivory santos and those etched on bells and church walls.

@pirena, nagkatawa ko sa imong term. nangatul jud diay ka.. hehe.. non-students may enter the various libraries of USC for a fee. Just tell the guard that you will make a research (depending on your topic but i recommend the filipiniana library and the cebuano studies center.) after which, you will be directed to go to the office of the director of libraries and be asked to pay a small amount and presto! you can make your research. just be sure you already have a topic in mind para di ka madugay in deciding what to look for. good luck.

miaka_cham
February 21st, 2007, 04:29 AM
wow! thanks for the pictures guys!

you inspire a lot of people with your researches..;)

miaka_cham
February 21st, 2007, 04:29 AM
wow! thanks for the pictures guys!

you inspire a lot of people with your researches..;)

bukid
February 21st, 2007, 06:35 AM
the english translation reads: "Sunday, the 4th of April, about midday, we entered the port of Zzubu, having passed by many villages. There we saw many houses which were built on trees."

this shows a clear distinction between the words village and house i agree with your clan hypothesis...but considering that these clans were quite big, i find it improbable for all of them to dwell all under one roof...i see it like modern day compounds owned by a single clan where they lived in separate houses owned by individual families within a certain plot of land...now, considering the large of size of Humabon's clan, it would be plausible then for the 'Humabon Compound' to be a sizeable community and appear as a town...

note also that Cebu was given the name Villadel Santisimo Nombre de Jesus (Cityof the Holy Name of Jesus) by Legazpi, about half a century after Magellan's demise.

if this was the fact then, it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

La domenica, a 7 de aprile, a mezzo dė, intrassemo nel porto di Zubu; passando per molti villaggi vedevamo molte case fatte sopra li arbori.

it says in italian:

Sunday, 7th of april, midday, we entered the port of cebu; passed by many villages (villaggi). we saw many houses (case) made on the trees

In questa isola sono molte ville, li nomi de le quali e de li suoi principali sono questi: Cinghapola: li sui principali Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat; Cimabul: una Mandani; il suo principale Apanovan: una Lalan, il suo principale Theten; una Lalutan, il suo principale Iapan, una Cilumai e un'altra Lubucun. Tutti questi ne obbedivano e ne davano vittuaglia e tributo.


but when speaking about Cinghapola, it says: "In this island there are many houses (ville), the name of some and their chiefs or owners are these:..."

so, it did say "villaggi" in the first paragraph but in the second paragraph it says "ville". although, it is possible that these names mentioned are compound owned by one single clan and it has houses in it but is considered as one single "house". or maybe the word "house" could be something like an idiom of sort like saying, queen elizabeth of the "house of windsor". but then again i dont know if it is standard practice for italian to do so.

"villa" in spanish has two meaning "town" and "cottage". but pigafetta's account was in italian and it gave us two different word "ville" (houses) or "villa" (house) and "villaggi" (villages) or "villagio" (village).

well, i'm learning something here. :) i'm not really into history unless it has something to do with art like tattoos and the symbolism in ancient art. i'm more fascinated with the mysterious and the spiritual side of people both ancient and modern. but i'm starting to enjoy history because of this thread. i'm starting to find interest in finding answers to some of my questions. like why do they built their houses on trees? where is mazaua? is it one of those island that disappeared because of climate change (water level rises and continue to do so.) or did it sink because of an earthquake? why did the queen chose the statue of the child and not the cross or the virgin as a replacement of their idol? could it be that their idol is a child deity?

update: i learned from an italian website that a "villa" to most Italians is a property of a certain size, of a certain splendor and at a certain price. while a "casa" is a general term for a "house" or "home".

The properties that appealed to us were not actually villas, but country houses "casale". These country houses are sized to house a typical modern family rather than the sprawling household of a Roman patrician or a renaissance prince which is called a villa. in other words, it is big and probably has something that looks like a courtyard or a hall with a balcony that are residences of wealthy family or family of nobility.

Cinghapola might not be a town but a big house (villa) with sprawling household owned by a wealthy noble clan.

so you would be correct when you said:

it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

could this be the houses on trees?

East Timor
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/timor.jpg

Communal house, Vietnam
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/kontum.jpg

bukid
February 21st, 2007, 06:35 AM
the english translation reads: "Sunday, the 4th of April, about midday, we entered the port of Zzubu, having passed by many villages. There we saw many houses which were built on trees."

this shows a clear distinction between the words village and house i agree with your clan hypothesis...but considering that these clans were quite big, i find it improbable for all of them to dwell all under one roof...i see it like modern day compounds owned by a single clan where they lived in separate houses owned by individual families within a certain plot of land...now, considering the large of size of Humabon's clan, it would be plausible then for the 'Humabon Compound' to be a sizeable community and appear as a town...

note also that Cebu was given the name Villadel Santisimo Nombre de Jesus (Cityof the Holy Name of Jesus) by Legazpi, about half a century after Magellan's demise.

if this was the fact then, it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

La domenica, a 7 de aprile, a mezzo dė, intrassemo nel porto di Zubu; passando per molti villaggi vedevamo molte case fatte sopra li arbori.

it says in italian:

Sunday, 7th of april, midday, we entered the port of cebu; passed by many villages (villaggi). we saw many houses (case) made on the trees

In questa isola sono molte ville, li nomi de le quali e de li suoi principali sono questi: Cinghapola: li sui principali Cilaton, Cigubacan, Cimaningha, Cimatighat; Cimabul: una Mandani; il suo principale Apanovan: una Lalan, il suo principale Theten; una Lalutan, il suo principale Iapan, una Cilumai e un'altra Lubucun. Tutti questi ne obbedivano e ne davano vittuaglia e tributo.


but when speaking about Cinghapola, it says: "In this island there are many houses (ville), the name of some and their chiefs or owners are these:..."

so, it did say "villaggi" in the first paragraph but in the second paragraph it says "ville". although, it is possible that these names mentioned are compound owned by one single clan and it has houses in it but is considered as one single "house". or maybe the word "house" could be something like an idiom of sort like saying, queen elizabeth of the "house of windsor". but then again i dont know if it is standard practice for italian to do so.

"villa" in spanish has two meaning "town" and "cottage". but pigafetta's account was in italian and it gave us two different word "ville" (houses) or "villa" (house) and "villaggi" (villages) or "villagio" (village).

well, i'm learning something here. :) i'm not really into history unless it has something to do with art like tattoos and the symbolism in ancient art. i'm more fascinated with the mysterious and the spiritual side of people both ancient and modern. but i'm starting to enjoy history because of this thread. i'm starting to find interest in finding answers to some of my questions. like why do they built their houses on trees? where is mazaua? is it one of those island that disappeared because of climate change (water level rises and continue to do so.) or did it sink because of an earthquake? why did the queen chose the statue of the child and not the cross or the virgin as a replacement of their idol? could it be that their idol is a child deity?

update: i learned from an italian website that a "villa" to most Italians is a property of a certain size, of a certain splendor and at a certain price. while a "casa" is a general term for a "house" or "home".

The properties that appealed to us were not actually villas, but country houses "casale". These country houses are sized to house a typical modern family rather than the sprawling household of a Roman patrician or a renaissance prince which is called a villa. in other words, it is big and probably has something that looks like a courtyard or a hall with a balcony that are residences of wealthy family or family of nobility.

Cinghapola might not be a town but a big house (villa) with sprawling household owned by a wealthy noble clan.

so you would be correct when you said:

it is possible that today's practice of having clans live together in compounds i.e. Rama Compound, is a vestige of pre-contact Cebu tradition...

could this be the houses on trees?

East Timor
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/timor.jpg

Communal house, Vietnam
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/kontum.jpg

LordCarnal
February 21st, 2007, 09:50 AM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//

LordCarnal
February 21st, 2007, 09:50 AM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//

jrevalde
February 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM
^^ is that the handiwork of mayor ouano? its tacky

jrevalde
February 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM
^^ is that the handiwork of mayor ouano? its tacky

flesh_is_weak
February 21st, 2007, 04:23 PM
could this be the houses on trees?

East Timor
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/timor.jpg

Communal house, Vietnam
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/kontum.jpg

most probably...one account said that the rajah's house towered like a haystack...

it doesnt take a lot of imagination to see the house in the picture above as a haystack

flesh_is_weak
February 21st, 2007, 04:23 PM
could this be the houses on trees?

East Timor
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/timor.jpg

Communal house, Vietnam
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/bukid_01/kontum.jpg

most probably...one account said that the rajah's house towered like a haystack...

it doesnt take a lot of imagination to see the house in the picture above as a haystack

j-pol
February 21st, 2007, 07:47 PM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//


i don't get what you exactly mean bai nold. how did the old city hall look like diay?

j-pol
February 21st, 2007, 07:47 PM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//


i don't get what you exactly mean bai nold. how did the old city hall look like diay?

vatics
February 23rd, 2007, 04:09 PM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//

^^ i don't think any part of the building were defaced @arnold. notice that the fountain improvement is bordered a few meters from the city hall building itself. it is detached rather than attached to the west wing of the city hall. however, putting the fountain garden beside the old city hall destroys the historical value of the site.

vatics
February 23rd, 2007, 04:09 PM
How to deface an old structure?

Here....


Mandaue City Hall
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/normal_Mandaue%20City%20Garden02.JPG

http://www.ngkhai.net/cebupics/albums/userpics/10045/Mandaue%20City%20hall%20at%20towers%20eye%20view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/edifice_complex/Waterfalls.jpg



I hope the Cebu Provincial Capitol would not become like this.......

//

^^ i don't think any part of the building were defaced @arnold. notice that the fountain improvement is bordered a few meters from the city hall building itself. it is detached rather than attached to the west wing of the city hall. however, putting the fountain garden beside the old city hall destroys the historical value of the site.

LordCarnal
February 23rd, 2007, 04:37 PM
^^

Yes it is not attached to the main building but it still defaced the structure in another sense. It's so close to the building, it should have been located farther away.

The fountain itself does not blend with the building's architecture. Aside from that, it looks so big and out of place.

LordCarnal
February 23rd, 2007, 04:37 PM
^^

Yes it is not attached to the main building but it still defaced the structure in another sense. It's so close to the building, it should have been located farther away.

The fountain itself does not blend with the building's architecture. Aside from that, it looks so big and out of place.