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xXx carlos xXx September 8th, 2011, 07:27 AM WOW!!!!! Atleast hindi na mahirap mag transit pag AA and CX ang partnership going to Cebu, Sometimes the gates were too far apart especially in HK going to Cebu. Now with all CX connections, it would make a world difference. :okay: Although, with Korean Air, I usually can fly out of Dallas, Tx, lay over in Icheon then on to Cebu which is equally as convinient.
youre from texas too? i also take the iah-dfw-icn-ceb route korean air in going home... i try to avoid manila as much as possible... magulo.. plus i stay in cebu pretty much most of my vacation..
markpaul September 8th, 2011, 07:43 AM i dont like the Tiger Airways schedule from Davao-Singapore hehe. Closed na kasi ang MRT when Tiger arrives...
http://www.airphilexpress.com/images/new-images/flyurnxtadventure.png (http://marcopolo.i.ph)
Mercato September 8th, 2011, 07:43 AM Congratulations Cebu, Chicago, Cathay Pacific! :cheers2:
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=724365&publicationSubCategoryId=111
Cathay Pacific Cebu Welcomes Chicago Flights
(The Freeman) Updated September 06, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (0) View comments
While bidding farewell to Camilla Taylor & Hello to Maggie Wong
Chicago –The Windy City - is the third most visited city in the United States. It’s no surprise then, that Cathay has decided that this would be its next American city to fly to! And Cathay Pacific’s Cebu team jumped on the opportunity to showcase the city with cocktails to launch the upcoming destination.
Seen at the event were the airline’s top tier Marco Polo Frequent Flyer members, loyal travel agents, cargo forwarders, friends from the business and industry sectors of Cebu. All came eagerly looking forward to what Chicago has in store for them. After all, Chicago boasts of more than 200 live theatres and art galleries, is home to the “Magnificent Mile”– a shopping mecca, and is the birthplace of the skyscraper! Not only that, in Chicago, you’ll find the famous deep-dish pizza, and the Italian Beef Sandwich, just two of their their local specialties.
Cathay Pacific’s daily flights between Hong Kong and Chicago started last September 1, and of course, an introductory price for Cebu-Chicago-Cebu was on offer at just USD 840 per person!
The event was also an opportunity for friends of the airline to bid farewell to Manager Cebu Camilla Taylor and to welcome the amiable Maggie Wong, as she takes over the reins in the Cebu office.
Farewell and welcome speeches were said and tokens were not forgotten. Maggie was welcomed with a beautiful export-quality minaudiere proudly designed and produced in Cebu. It will definitely be useful as Maggie is expected to attend a number of event during her stint in Cebu.
Camilla, on the other hand, received a photo book compiling the memories of her one-year stint as Port Manager. At the same time, she was posed a challenge as the Cathay Cebu staff presented her with one of Cebu’s most famous souvenirs – a guitar, which she promised to learn to play.
A lucky draw ended the evening’s programme with lunch and dinner certificates, as well as an overnight stay at the Radisson Blu raffled off to lucky guests. Of course, the grand prize of the night was a roundtrip ticket from Cebu to Chicago, which was won by none other than Atty. Paul Alcazaren of the Bureau of Customs.
To ensure everyone remembers to take Cathay Pacific on their next flight to Chicago, all guests got a chance to have a photo with the Chicago skyline in the background and also got to bring home a tin of the famous Chicago popcorn. (FREEMAN)
Credits to @DieHardBisdakChicago, Chicago, My Kinda Town. :cool: That's the Illinois State Flag on lower right. :D
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mwg12a September 8th, 2011, 08:08 AM That $840 price is so cheap. I wish they will also offer it to lax flights.
YESSSSS, That is very cheap! It's been awhile since I've seen that figure from the midwestern states. That price is usually the price you can get out of LAX or SF. The cheapest fair I usually get even online from midwest is usually $1,200.oo when the average is 1,400 and on peak season, it would be 2,200.
youre from texas too? i also take the iah-dfw-icn-ceb route korean air in going home... i try to avoid manila as much as possible... magulo.. plus i stay in cebu pretty much most of my vacation..
No, State of Missouri. I would fly to Dallas and get on Korean Air flight from there. We have direct Dallas flight from SW Mo state. I can drive down there for it and leave my car to a friends house. If I fly out of SW MO, that would probably cost a bit more but it usually isn't too bad.
dashalvin September 8th, 2011, 10:57 AM That $840 price is so cheap. I wish they will also offer it to lax flights.
Wow! Super ganda ng introductory price.
dashalvin September 8th, 2011, 10:59 AM i dont like the Tiger Airways schedule from Davao-Singapore hehe. Closed na kasi ang MRT when Tiger arrives...
http://www.airphilexpress.com/images/new-images/flyurnxtadventure.png (http://marcopolo.i.ph)
Tama ka mark. Ganito rin ung sched ng 5j noon dyan. Hirap!
dashalvin September 8th, 2011, 11:15 AM When will the connecting flight starts?
hans boy September 8th, 2011, 10:27 PM ^^
If you're referring to the CX Cebu - Chicago - Cebu flights, it already started last September 1.
I tried to book online, Chicago - Cebu - Chicago and it costs $1,291.30, while Cebu - Chicago - Cebu costs $847.00 all in!
MatudNilaBaby September 8th, 2011, 10:44 PM ^^
If you're referring to the CX Cebu - Chicago - Cebu flights, it already started last September 1.
I tried to book online, Chicago - Cebu - Chicago and it costs $1,291.30, while Cebu - Chicago - Cebu costs $847.00 all in!
dili diay parehas ug plete? kana with stop over sa hongkong.
hans boy September 8th, 2011, 11:03 PM ^^
Yup! Stop over and change plane sa HK bai, and the advantage is no more luggage claim and immigration check in HK.
MatudNilaBaby September 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM ^^
Yup! Stop over and change plane sa HK bai, and the advantage is no more luggage claim and immigration check in HK.
mao nay makalami kon wala nay bit2x ug guyud2x sa imong luggage sa airport. mas comfortable na siya nga style kay sa mo stop over pa sa naia unya ikaw pa mobalhin sa imong baggage from international to domestic. hinaot nga mcia will create more linkage sa west kay mo prefer ang taga south nga pinoy even southern luzon mo prefer nga ang connecting nila from mcia ug dili naia kay huot nakaayo didto.
ug ilang gi promote kay ang clark man to be the alternate airport to naia but the question is kon mopili ba ang mga pasehero didto nga dili man accessible as far as connecting domestic flight is concern.
*GoldFish* September 9th, 2011, 06:14 AM ^^
If you're referring to the CX Cebu - Chicago - Cebu flights, it already started last September 1.
I tried to book online, Chicago - Cebu - Chicago and it costs $1,291.30, while Cebu - Chicago - Cebu costs $847.00 all in!
So mag matter kung asa ka mag lukat? so if cebu ka manukad mas barato while if sa chicago ka manukad mahal. So advantage ni sa mga naa sa pinas manukad.
^^
Yup! Stop over and change plane sa HK bai, and the advantage is no more luggage claim and immigration check in HK.
yup. ang kapoy is taas lang jud og lakwon labi na mag bitbit og bata. pero mas mo prefer ko sa HK then cebu kaysa mo hapit og NAIA.
hans boy September 9th, 2011, 08:08 AM ^^
Just like what others have said here, try to passby Incheon via Korean Air. My tita from Arizona goes home every 5 years and she always utilize the Korean Air LAX - Incheon - Cebu route whom she said is better than the current offering of CX which is Chicago - HK - Cebu.
mwg12a September 9th, 2011, 10:34 AM ^^
Yup! Stop over and change plane sa HK bai, and the advantage is no more luggage claim and immigration check in HK.
When I once flew with American Airlines, the lay over was in HK and transited via Cathay Pacific. Luggages are automatically transfered, there is no need to recheck in your luggages. AA and CX belongs to One World so it made it easier.
Korean has always been excellent with lay over in Icheon before proceeding to Cebu. Korean Air has always been our choice if I wanted to go straight to Cebu .
Chicago operation via CX would definitely work to the advantage on pinoy's residing in midwest and eastcoast. Pinoys can get to chose between Manila and Cebu as their point of entry into the Philippines.
*GoldFish* September 9th, 2011, 10:53 AM Will try to see what will work with my schedule next year. I like CX schedule cause they almost have same time sched with PAL. On the other hand I heard korean will have its A380 late this year, hopefully it will includes LAX route.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 9th, 2011, 10:58 AM ^^
If you're referring to the CX Cebu - Chicago - Cebu flights, it already started last September 1.
I tried to book online, Chicago - Cebu - Chicago and it costs $1,291.30, while Cebu - Chicago - Cebu costs $847.00 all in!
wow! good news gyud ni sa mga filipinos esp. Cebuanos! thanks CX :okay:
mwg12a September 9th, 2011, 08:40 PM Will try to see what will work with my schedule next year. I like CX schedule cause they almost have same time sched with PAL. On the other hand I heard korean will have its A380 late this year, hopefully it will includes LAX route.
On the contrary, i'd go for Korean Air again just cuz they will have A380 late this year.....:lol::lol::lol:
AmbutLang September 10th, 2011, 02:46 AM On the contrary, i'd go for Korean Air again just cuz they will have A380 late this year.....:lol::lol::lol:
check this one for scheduled Korean Air flights
http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/ld/eng/ft/ne/eng_ft_ne_77520.jsp
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8968/a380nyeng.jpg
:)
AmbutLang September 10th, 2011, 02:49 AM ^^
If you're referring to the CX Cebu - Chicago - Cebu flights, it already started last September 1.
I tried to book online, Chicago - Cebu - Chicago and it costs $1,291.30, while Cebu - Chicago - Cebu costs $847.00 all in!
The reason the fares are not the same, the US is still in peak season while Philippines is not on peak season :nuts:
*GoldFish* September 10th, 2011, 05:41 AM The reason the fares are not the same, the US is still in peak season while Philippines is not on peak season :nuts:
But to PAL rate they use both US/PI season. The only PAL rate that is cheap I know is on oct and nov.
AmbutLang September 10th, 2011, 08:36 PM But to PAL rate they use both US/PI season. The only PAL rate that is cheap I know is on oct and nov.
never like PAL, mahal ang fare unya i have to start from JFK anyway. But if PAL will start at JFK and direct flight to Cebu, I might change my mind and try it.
For me CX is the cheapest fare when plane ticket is purchased at least 2 months before the flight. Korean Air is $100 more than CX on the same day flight schedules.
mwg12a September 10th, 2011, 09:55 PM check this one for scheduled Korean Air flights
http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/ld/eng/ft/ne/eng_ft_ne_77520.jsp
Nice. Thanks sir Ambutlang!
tunatuna September 11th, 2011, 01:13 AM never like PAL, mahal ang fare unya i have to start from JFK anyway. But if PAL will start at JFK and direct flight to Cebu, I might change my mind and try it.
For me CX is the cheapest fare when plane ticket is purchased at least 2 months before the flight. Korean Air is $100 more than CX on the same day flight schedules.
Ingat sa pagsakay sa PAL flight PR102... daan na, sige pag kaaberya. stranded pirme sa Hawaii! libre bitaw ang stay pero sayang ang oras.
RepublicaNegrense September 11th, 2011, 03:45 AM Time for a new thread! Who will start? :banana: Kung wala in 5 minutes, I'll start it. :cheers:
RepublicaNegrense September 11th, 2011, 03:57 AM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
RepublicaNegrense September 11th, 2011, 04:02 AM Since 5 minutes elapsed without starting a new thread, I started it myself.
[CEB] Mactan-Cebu International Airport Thread 7 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677243#post83677243)
Sleepwalker September 11th, 2011, 06:30 AM ^^Thanks for opening the new thread, Sir RN... :cheers:
mwg12a September 11th, 2011, 07:20 AM No link for the closed thread yet? I clicked that thread 6 hyperlink and nothing showed up.
pangyao™ September 11th, 2011, 01:40 PM When it will start? Cebu really need a new terminal asap.
RepublicaNegrense September 11th, 2011, 02:04 PM ^^Thanks for opening the new thread, Sir RN... :cheers:
You're welcome. :D
No link for the closed thread yet? I clicked that thread 6 hyperlink and nothing showed up.
That's because Thread 6 had already been archived. :D I'll change the link directing you to the archives. :)
wesunsled September 11th, 2011, 02:44 PM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
napakagandang airport terminal ng cebu, makapunta nga
RepublicaNegrense September 11th, 2011, 02:59 PM napakagandang airport terminal ng cebu, makapunta nga
That's terminal's still a plan. Hopefully, it will be materialized soon. Let's just wait for Sir Zidlakan's announcement. :D
wesunsled September 11th, 2011, 03:08 PM ah ok, sana matuloy na to..
jochval September 12th, 2011, 05:16 AM During my trip last September 7, 2011
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jochval September 13th, 2011, 08:16 AM i want to clarify something
when i went to Manila, i brought my tripod inside my bag and it passes through an xray and they have no problems in it, but when i came back in Cebu from NAIA, my tripod is again inside my bag and when it passes through an xray, they said that it should be baggaged, my question is, why in Cebu my tripod is okay with them to be hand carried but in Manila it is not?...
Sleepwalker September 13th, 2011, 08:18 AM ^^Because you are a Bisaya.
jochval September 13th, 2011, 08:29 AM hehe, they don't know that I'm Bisaya because not all passengers going to Cebu are purely Bisaya..:lol::lol:...
or is it maybe nadamay lang my tripod because i put also 3 jams inside my bag in which they are contained in a glass container, in which they also want to baggage it..
same thing when i went to Iloilo and when i go back to Cebu, my tripod dont have a problem with them...or maybe NAIA is more stricter...hmmm...
mwg12a September 13th, 2011, 08:31 AM Could it be the ones in NAIA, the employee was misinformed and the details were not especified carefully by the manager or perhaps the employee itself has thickhead and would not listen carefully when being instructed?
I think there should be a better communication between airport officials especially on customs and immigration along with the airport security procedures just so that the standard procedures are clearly especified...
My wife had an incident where her checked in luggages were searched after arriving in NAIA T2 since it was the point of entry, by the time she made it to Cebu in that same day, the same procedure has to be done, she was asked to go through immigration country, go to customs all over again to check all her luggages one more time before she was let out of the terminal. The customs and immigration stops in NAIA should have been recognized already instead of doing the same procedure in Cebu and vice versa.
jochval September 13th, 2011, 08:37 AM ^^ BTW, what is the english of nadamay?..:D...
i hope that there should be uniformity of airport rules throughout the airports in the country to avoid confusion...
mwg12a September 13th, 2011, 08:45 AM Yes, very true. I've had tripods all the time each time I would go to the Philippines, it was never an issue, I wonder why it is an issue now since it's not even considered as a deadly weapon. Although, alot of times, tripods sets off the metal detector.
jochval September 13th, 2011, 08:54 AM ^^ the same with umbrellas, it is not a deadly weapon but it is prohibited to be hand carried...
mwg12a September 13th, 2011, 09:04 AM oh yeah, but here where I am at, if the umbrella is too long, you have to leave it by the door and will be handed to you right out at that door again when deplaning.
jochval September 13th, 2011, 09:17 AM i hope that Cebu Pacific will have their 15kg baggage for free just like Airphil and Zest Air so that i can bring my tripod and umbrella for free...:)...
mwg12a September 13th, 2011, 09:21 AM Didn't you have a check in luggage? Really, tripods are just a pain in the neck to carry around with you when you travel. I even bought the shortest telescoping tripod there is for that same reason...
zidlakan September 13th, 2011, 10:07 AM please check here ...
http://cebu-airport.com/villarete/listofprohibiteditemsasofjune21,2010.pdf
tripods are prohibited in carry on luggage but maybe checked in.
the rules are uniform (see above link). but sometimes the screeners are not
that strict, hence what you experience happens, especially for those items as
innocent as tripods.
but try to bring a single round of ammunition and check if the airport screeners
are "uniform" all over the country ...
anyway, please do go over the list, for your own information ...
jochval September 13th, 2011, 10:21 AM what i mean about "uniform" sir @zid is the tripods, because i only experience it in Manila where it should be baggaged..
zidlakan September 13th, 2011, 10:44 AM what i mean about "uniform" sir @zid is the tripods, because i only experience it in Manila where it should be baggaged..
yes, that's what i meant, too. please check the list, tripods are supposed to be
baggaged, but in many instances, they just allow it to be hand-carried.
i am preparing a letter to OTS regarding this issue, because there are many
incidents already besides tripods (the list is long). hopefully, we will have better
implementation of the rules.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 15th, 2011, 10:00 AM SOON: CEBU to VIETNAM Direct Flight
http://news.vietnamhotels.net/images/35/7148.jpg
pic from http://news.vietnamhotels.ne
**************
PH, Vietnam sign air travel agreement (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/business/2011/09/14/ph-vietnam-sign-air-travel-agreement-179323)
By Elias O. Baquero
Sunstar Online
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
THE airline of the once restricted communist country of Vietnam will soon fly directly to the Mactan Cebu International Airport after the signing of an agreement with the Philippines.
Undersecretary Aristotle Batuhan of the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) is presently in Ho Chi Minh City for air negotiations.
:D
WOW!!! another international flight for Cebu!!! :applause::applause::applause:
bOrN2BwILd September 15th, 2011, 04:39 PM ^^terminal 2! as in now na :D:lol:
saintm September 15th, 2011, 06:20 PM ^on chartered flights? if there was a market for cebu-vietnam, why is 5J not cashing in? 5J once flew MNL-Hanoi buts ceased operation due to low demand, also Cebu-Bangkok.
majaba98 September 19th, 2011, 05:25 PM Would be appropriate to update the airport website according to the MMCIA website concerning traffic statistics please Paul. Please, see for yourself : http://www.mciaa.gov.ph/Passengers.html
and compare with :
http://www.cebu-airport.com/trafficstatistics.htm
Thank You sincerly.
rage@cebu September 23rd, 2011, 01:50 PM ^on chartered flights? if there was a market for cebu-vietnam, why is 5J not cashing in? 5J once flew MNL-Hanoi buts ceased operation due to low demand, also Cebu-Bangkok.
direct cebu- vietnam flights! nice! very good for business! most pilots of vietnam airlines came from cebu... mangumpra ta ninyo did2...
swahi September 25th, 2011, 02:16 PM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
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Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
Wow, very very nice! Pero nawagtang ang waterfront hotel! Can we afford to expropriate waterfront hotel?
ivanc September 25th, 2011, 03:37 PM i think its just outside the picture.. the hotel is right across the pre-terminal building of the current terminal so medyo na crop out siya
sonnyville September 28th, 2011, 11:45 PM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
Here is a link of the new King Shaka International Airport in Durban South Africa. I like your rendering above, and King Shaka International somewhat resembles the rendering above in design and layout of the terminal. I think by now the government should have invested on something like this. I think it is relatively almost the same size as Mactan as well, maybe slightly bigger on property size. Operation wise, it's relatively similar, with only one runway. I'm not saying to build another terminal, but perhaps at least renovate it to the rendering above and improve it's operating capabilities to like that of King Shaka and I think it will be sufficient enough for growth for the next 20 years or so. To be honest, mas maganda pa nga yung rendering sa taas. Cebu deserves and badly needs one like this if tourism and growth is to be expected.
King Shaka International Airport, Durban, South Africa.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=558425&page=3
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 29th, 2011, 05:47 AM ^^ WOW! ang bongga naman ng King Shaka Intl Airport sa Durban! world-class talaga yung design. IMO, mas maganda sya and its very huge if we have to compare it with MCIA T2 pero mas pipiliin ko yung sa atin kasi it really fits Mactan and Cebu. :okay:
King Shaka International Airport, Durban, South Africa
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wil1985 September 29th, 2011, 10:28 AM Wow, very very nice! Pero nawagtang ang waterfront hotel! Can we afford to expropriate waterfront hotel?
maybe it was just omitted when the render was made..it should be opposite of the current terminal which has a red roof..so it might be it was cut off by the picture..but if it would be removed..yep..i dont think we can afford it..hehehe
jochval September 29th, 2011, 10:35 AM maybe not removed, but is should be relocated..:D, and again, can we afford it? :D...to make a bigger space for parking for the new terminal, the area where the hotel stands should be cleared.
Manila-X September 29th, 2011, 10:48 AM The Mactan Cebu design is so much better than the one in Durban. The next is building it.
Parchie September 29th, 2011, 11:44 AM maybe not removed, but is should be relocated..:D, and again, can we afford it? :D...to make a bigger space for parking for the new terminal, the area where the hotel stands should be cleared.
It doesn't make sense undoing a big building and re-building it on another location. Ever read the paper by a frenchman Frederic Bastiat - "Broken Windows Fallacy"?
If parking is the problem, there are lots of designs where cars are parked/stacked above one another and you save space! IDK, but the lots in the area can be P25K per sq.m, so space-saving parking facilities is a good thing there. Just woke up though.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 29th, 2011, 11:59 AM The Mactan Cebu design is so much better than the one in Durban. The next is building it.
yeah! :rock::rock::rock:
majaba98 September 29th, 2011, 12:23 PM The Mactan Cebu design is so much better than the one in Durban. The next is building it.
VERY TRUE !
Sky Harbor September 29th, 2011, 07:44 PM maybe not removed, but is should be relocated..:D, and again, can we afford it? :D...to make a bigger space for parking for the new terminal, the area where the hotel stands should be cleared.
The hotel can also be incorporated into a new terminal. Airport hotels are now a very popular concept in several major cities.
Parchie September 30th, 2011, 03:27 AM The hotel can also be incorporated into a new terminal. Airport hotels are now a very popular concept in several major cities.
Good point there. I can just imagine how good it is to know, you don't have to spend hundreds of pesos to find a hotel right after your plane lands in MCIA! All you need is walk a few meters. Better still make a call and have the hotel vans shuttle your baggage to the hotel.
Another thing with having that hotel very near is when you miss your schedule or airlines having trouble leaving the airport (closed destination ports due to some reasons, etc. . etc.) and you have a place to go to for a day or two until you're good to fly.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 30th, 2011, 03:32 AM ^^
but you also have to bear the noise that airplanes create.
sonnyville September 30th, 2011, 03:35 AM Come to think of it, I came across the Penang International Airport forum and I think that's a more accurate comparison to Mactan in terms of size. Like Mactan, Penang is also situated in a very crowded area. The old terminal design strikingly resembles like that of Zamboanga. The new modern and expanded Terminal is already underconstruction. It is to be completed in 2012. This is perhaps a good example or study on how the government can improve Mactan Int. Airport. The Malaysian and local government has also asked the public to "please have patience" as the construction has inconvenienced many travelers.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1285443&page=2
jochval September 30th, 2011, 03:35 AM Good point there. I can just imagine how good it is to know, you don't have to spend hundreds of pesos to find a hotel right after your plane lands in MCIA! All you need is walk a few meters. Better still make a call and have the hotel vans shuttle your baggage to the hotel.
Another thing with having that hotel very near is when you miss your schedule or airlines having trouble leaving the airport (closed destination ports due to some reasons, etc. . etc.) and you have a place to go to for a day or two until you're good to fly.
yeah, good for those who can afford...:nuts:
Parchie September 30th, 2011, 03:36 AM ^^
but you also have to bear the noise that airplanes create.
Correct. I think that comes along with being in close proximity with the airport. But that can be engineered-out, IMO.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter September 30th, 2011, 03:41 AM ^^ yeah I know. even 1016 Residences has this specific window type that minimizes noise from outside especially those units with close proximity to the ground/street. :)
Parchie September 30th, 2011, 03:43 AM yeah, good for those who can afford...:nuts:
I believe there is no such thing as a "free lunch". You avail of something and you have to pay for it. It's a matter of weighing how much you'll be spending on this option versus the hassles and the other costs related to going for another option or options available when you're in a flight problem.
Besides, people don't fly if they can't afford. Others take the boat or travel by land. FWIW, it's an option that a traveler has to choose.
Parchie September 30th, 2011, 03:46 AM ^^ yeah I know. even 1016 Residences has this specific window type that minimizes noise from outside especially those units with close proximity to the ground/street. :)
It's called "double-paned" windows. Great for heat insulation and noise reduction.
sonnyville September 30th, 2011, 03:53 AM problema kasi is poor planning. someone must've known that airports will grow in time and yet they built that hotel right dead smack next to the terminal. pa wise mga ng invest on that hotel. they probably thought the government will cough up a large sum of money and pay them for that land for airport or terminal expansion. hard lesson, the government doesn't have deep pockets and often relies on foreign funds, donations, developers etc. to fund large national projects like airport building or upgrade. it's not a bad idea to have hotels right next to the airport terminal or actually within the airport itself. bangkok suvarnbhumi has airport hotel within its terminal and so does changi in singapore i think. it's just in this case, it's not in favor of much needed airport or terminal growth.
the things that they should focus on is.
-terminal expansion to accomodate more airplanes and passengers, which they have begun.
-improve and upgrade facilities of MCIA
-improve public transportation. a light rail be built (of course connecting the airpot to city proper). the island of cebu isn't that big, but imagine what the light rail can do. it would certainly reduce traffic and pollution and make cebu more attractive for tourists. it would also generate more income for the local communities and government.
Parchie September 30th, 2011, 04:45 AM problema kasi is poor planning. someone must've known that airports will grow in time and yet they built that hotel right dead smack next to the terminal. pa wise mga ng invest on that hotel. they probably thought the government will cough up a large sum of money and pay them for that land for airport or terminal expansion. hard lesson, the government doesn't have deep pockets and often relies on foreign funds, donations, developers etc. to fund large national projects like airport building or upgrade. it's not a bad idea to have hotels right next to the airport terminal or actually within the airport itself. bangkok suvarnbhumi has airport hotel within its terminal and so does changi in singapore i think. it's just in this case, it's not in favor of much needed airport or terminal growth.
the things that they should focus on is.
-terminal expansion to accomodate more airplanes and passengers, which they have begun.
-improve and upgrade facilities of MCIA
-improve public transportation. a light rail be built (of course connecting the airpot to city proper). the island of cebu isn't that big, but imagine what the light rail can do. it would certainly reduce traffic and pollution and make cebu more attractive for tourists. it would also generate more income for the local communities and government.
Those items are valid concerns. If you care to read back the posts here, it's been discussed. As one poster here once said "each facility will always have their time to be outlived by their very usefulness". Your designs can only be good as the information you have available during the planning stages. In the 70's: Who could have projected mainland Chinese could be richer that they travel a lot? Who predicted that European map will be redrawn? Most importantly, did anyone ever predict that Japanese and South Koreans will come in droves to Cebu for tours?
Having said those, MCIA is undergoing expansions/ upgrading, etc. because the data for which it was designed to operate on have changed so much that it can't handle the volume of travelers efficiently as when it was new.
I think nothing is left un-reviewed by the planners including that of a seamless mass transport in two years or three. Perhaps it's too much to ask for from the various Cebu LGU's knowing Cebu doesn't get that much attention from the central government up there. We'll just keep moving little by little forward. We know we can overtake our rabbit by crawling surely like the turtle in the fable. Cheers!
AmbutLang September 30th, 2011, 01:52 PM It doesn't make sense undoing a big building and re-building it on another location. Ever read the paper by a frenchman Frederic Bastiat - "Broken Windows Fallacy"?
If parking is the problem, there are lots of designs where cars are parked/stacked above one another and you save space! IDK, but the lots in the area can be P25K per sq.m, so space-saving parking facilities is a good thing there. Just woke up though.
Parehoson nalang sa Orlando International Airport.
http://www.hotelinspector.com/hyattregencyorlandoairport.jpg
The Hyatt Regency Orlando International Airport features 446 sound-proof rooms. Airline gates are as close as 5 minutes away by foot. Photo above shows an airport common-area with hotel rooms facing the atrium.
http://www.hotelinspector.com/orlando.htm
mwg12a September 30th, 2011, 03:48 PM ^^ Airport Hotels like these are good especially on what considered as a number one resort destination which Cebu does have potential. Trouble is the resorts there in Cebu are usually Hotel resorts already so having a huge hotel in MCIA isn't as beneficial. Another thing is that the country in general is not yielding high roller travelers all over the world and that the country is not an international transit destination for many passengers. I do agree that there is also a need for an airport based hotel which is Waterfront Hotel and casino that probably just needed a covered walkway or catwalk leading to the hotel from the terminal most especially if there is walkalator in it because we knew that there are still highrollers that visit Cebu or the Philippines, just that it's not a big as the countries like Singapore, HK, Tokyo and such. Those whose flight were cancelled can be billeted in hotel airports like Waterfront hotel.
@Sonnyville - the current MCIA still have alot of room for expansion. This is why there is a planned T2 already and the current terminal is undergoing internal expansion already. I don't think Cebu airport is expecting to grow to a whopping 30 Mill passenger yearly in over a decade just yet unless it magically started turning into an international transit destination as well.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 1st, 2011, 04:52 AM ^^
right! I hope WPI will invest in their Waterfront Airport Hotel and Casino for additional facilities and upgrading of existing ones. :okay:
by the way, yeah! its great if they (WPI) will install walkalators from the hotel to the airport! that would be nice! :okay:
mwg12a October 1st, 2011, 04:59 AM Oh divah!! :lol: Sosie! Those who has lay over in Cebu from different provinces whether they are going elsewhere in the Philippines or overseas can go down to Waterfront and play poker for a little bit while waiting for their flights, just don't get too engrossed and addicted in gambling or they would miss their flights.. :lol:
sonnyville October 1st, 2011, 05:30 AM Our very own "Sin City" ? lol Hmm....
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 1st, 2011, 05:36 AM Oh divah!! :lol: Sosie! Those who has lay over in Cebu from different provinces whether they are going elsewhere in the Philippines or overseas can go down to Waterfront and play poker for a little bit while waiting for their flights, just don't get too engrossed and addicted in gambling or they would miss their flights.. :lol:
yeah! napasubo sa slot machine kaya napagiwanan tuloy sa flight! :lol:
mwg12a October 1st, 2011, 08:40 AM Come to think of it, High rollers do loves to gamble, usually...... Waterfront would be perfect!! he he
litigs October 1st, 2011, 10:30 PM Parehoson nalang sa Orlando International Airport.
http://www.hotelinspector.com/hyattregencyorlandoairport.jpg
The Hyatt Regency Orlando International Airport features 446 sound-proof rooms. Airline gates are as close as 5 minutes away by foot. Photo above shows an airport common-area with hotel rooms facing the atrium.
http://www.hotelinspector.com/orlando.htm
Passed by this airport last July, looks stuck in the 80s but still does the job. You need to take the monorail from the boarding gates which are clustered into 4 satellites from the main building. Waterfront still serves Mactan well, it just needs a sheltered walkway from the terminal. Don't know why they didn't plan it that way. This hotel is just good if you are an affluent traveler; Mactan also needs an adjacent standard hotel which is clean and affordable enough akin to Holiday Inn express or Best Western. I think there is one east of the terminal close to MEPZ but still you need to commute to get to it. Hope this type of hotels will be incorporated in the new terminal project. There are a lot of international passengers heading to the provinces in Mindanao that has to stay overnight to catch the only flight the following day.
cebuboi October 2nd, 2011, 07:40 AM agree with litigs...that with the planned new terminal a hotel with in the airport itself or within its premises which caters to more budget conscious individuals to whom by fate would be would be forced to stay at the airport, should be incorporated in the planning as not all people can afford to stay on higher classified hotels.IMO
kratos1211 October 2nd, 2011, 08:41 AM Gunfight at airport
CEBU CITY—An airport policeman was wounded in a gunfight with his superiors late Thursday inside a police office at the Mactan Cebu International Airport.
source (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/68669/newsbriefs-63)
mwg12a October 2nd, 2011, 06:12 PM agree with litigs...that with the planned new terminal a hotel with in the airport itself or within its premises which caters to more budget conscious individuals to whom by fate would be would be forced to stay at the airport, should be incorporated in the planning as not all people can afford to stay on higher classified hotels.IMO
Question there is, how many of those budget conscious travelers would stay in the hotel? I don't think it's a regular occurance where delayed flights whose passengers require over the night stay. For one thing, budget carriers usually do not provide hotel accomodation comparing to full service carriers. We've got to realize and to be practical about it, the surge of increase in airline travelers are mostly domestic travelers and I don't think domestic travelers whose residence is Cebu or has relatives in Cebu would opt to stay in the hotel especially if they are the ones shouldering the expenses. I would not oppose a nearby budget hotel ofcourse because there are foreign and filipino travelers would benefit to it but as far as encorporating it within the terminal would probably not as profitable. It would probably better if there is a covered walkway where the hotel is located across the street just like Waterfront Hotel, it's not a bad idea to have a budget hotel within a walking distance ofcourse because it would give travelers atleast a couple of choices. What would be a good idea is if this walkways do have some shops or kiosk for food in it so it can also be used as an additional lodging area by well wishers/greeters as well as passengers awaiting for their flights. I think we should stay away from copying (and I don't mean this in a mean or bad way) what we see in other countries but think more on what really fits our needs and requirements.
BTW@litigs, I do not think MCO looks 80s, they just happen to design it with a resort feel inside since Orlando is somehow a vacation destination with hundreds of resorts in nearby towns and cities.
ormocanon October 7th, 2011, 08:29 AM Govt to build all transport projects :banana::cheers::banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
by Jeremiah F. de Guzman
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness.htm?f=/2011/september/30/business1.isx&d=2011/september/30
The Transport Department said Thursday it will build all its infrastructure projects and will not entertain proposals from the private sector to reduce cost.
Transportation Secretary Manuel Roxas told reporters Thursday the agency would tap official development assistance loans to finance the projects and eventually privatize them.
“We studied and reconfigured the financing element and the sequencing element so that we can have these at the lowest possible cost to the public,” Roxas said.
He said the government would build large and basic hard infrastructure by availing low-interest ODA loans. He added the government will privatize the operation and maintenance aspects once the infrastructure is completed.
“What we are trying to do in reconfiguring is to put the market risks to the private sector. The execution risks, meaning the building of the infrastructure with the low-cost money, will be on the government side,” Roxas said. He called the mode a “hybrid-PPP scheme.”
“This way, the government knows exactly what it will pay and what it is going to get for the resource, while the private sector then bears the market risks for undertaking the O&M,” he added.
Roxas enumerated priority projects that include Light Rail Transit Line 1 extension to Bacoor in Cavite, LRT 2 extension to Masinag in Antipolo, airport development projects in Puerto Princesa and Laguindingan and the additional low-cost terminal in Mactan International Airport.
He said the Korean, Japanese and Chinese governments have expressed interest to assist to provide funding for LRT 1 South Extension project. The Romero group in 2009 earlier submitted an unsolicited proposal to build the project.
The extension of the LRT Line 1 South Extension will feature a 16-kilometer stretch from Baclaran station to Imus, Cavite.
Roxas said the Korean and the Japanese governments were also willing to fund the LRT 2 extension project. This project, including the line’s extension to Divisoria in Manila, was earlier estimated to cost P15.72 billion.
Roxas said the hybrid-PPP scheme would cut the cost of projects because of cheap foreign funds that would eventually result in lower cost of transportation.
The government will just pay a 1-percent interest rate spread over 30 years on ODA loans, compared with commercial bank rates of 7 percent to 8 percent annually for the same period.
Is this what Mar Roxas is referring to?
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Sleepwalker October 7th, 2011, 08:44 AM ^^Yes, but the design/perspective is not yet final.
IamCebuano October 7th, 2011, 08:49 AM Is this what Mar Roxas is referring to?
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
DOTC unveils P426-B five-year plan
Thursday, 06 October 2011 21:58 Lenie Lectura / Reporter
A P426-billion five-year plan to rehabilitate and modernize the country’s transport sector was unveiled on Thursday by the Department of Transportation and Communications.
Speaking before the Makati Business Club (MBC), Transportation Secretary Manuel A. Roxas II said he sees his team at the DOTC as a “problem solver” and vowed results when he returns next year to grace again the MBC’s membership meeting.
“Our role is to solve the country’s transport problems. I see my team as a problem solver. If invited next year, there will be a rate card so that you can rate the performance of this agency,” Roxas told MBC members, as he unveiled the department’s five-year transport-infrastructure plan estimated to cost P426 billion.
“The amount is just an estimate, as some of the projects will still have to undergo the bidding process. But we are confident the projects will start to take off in five years,” said Roxas.
He said he was confident his team will resolve problematic contracts entered into by the previous administration. These include the NorthRail, Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 and the roll-on, roll-off (Roro) projects.
Roxas said the DOTC will pursue the speedy and just resolution of past infrastructure projects that “simply did not fit the standards of a sound deal, either by dint of corruption or technical fault.” The NorthRail project is one of them, he said.
“We are reconfiguring this project after our productive discussion with top Chinese officials during our recent trip there with the President,” he said. “This time, we want to rewrite the lopsided contract to our mutual advantage. Instead of just a train that will run from Caloocan to Mabalacat in Pampanga, we want this to stretch out from Metro Manila to Clark. We are resolved to get the biggest bang out of every peso spent—no overprice, no fancy specs that we don’t need,” Roxas added.
The “new” NorthRail project will be called Naia-Clark Express Rail Link. It will involve the development, operation and maintenance of a newly constructed high-speed NorthRail, a 100-kilometer-long railway from the Central Business District to Clark Freeport in Pampanga, with a total travel time of 45 minutes. The project will cost P108 billion, said Roxas. He added that the Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) has agreed to undertake the feasibility study.
Other rail projects include the P5.1-billion operation, management and revenue contract of Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1), the P30-billion modernization of the Philippine National Railways’ south line; P7.5-billion privatization of Metro Rail Transit 3 (MRT 3) operation; the P3.4-billion rehabilitation of MRT 3 coaches; the P79-billion LRT 1 extension to Cavite; and the P12-billion LRT 2 extension to Antipolo.
Overall spending to improve the railway sector of the country is estimated to cost P245 billion.
For airports, the DOTC will set aside P2.07 billion for the rehabilitation of Naia terminals 1, 2 and 3.
Roxas said plans are under way to decongest Naia through the reduction of corporate and air taxi flights by 50 percent of the current number of sorties during peak hours.
“We will construct a rapid-exit taxiway to reduce runway occupancy time. We are also studying the transfer of noncommercial flights to other areas such as Sangley Point,” he said.
To transform Clark airport as a premier gateway, some P12.4 billion must be set aside to be able to accommodate expected passenger growth, he said.
1. A new passenger terminal worth P10.15 billion will be built in Mactan, Cebu.
Roxas said P3 billion should be earmarked for the Kalibo airport upgrade; P1 billion for the construction of a new passenger terminal at the Tacloban airport; and P8 billion for the upgrade of various airports nationwide.
The Puerto Princesa Airport would need P4.2 billion to be upgraded; P7.8 billion for Laguindingan airport; and P8 billion for the New Bohol airport.
2. For the road sector, Roxas said several “greenfield” projects are being planned, such as the proposed Cebu Bus Rapid Transit.
Under a study completed in June 2010, the 15-km Bus Rapid Transit line from Bulacao from the southwest to Talamban northeast of the city will have 22 stations and three terminals. This will cost P5.2 billion.
The DOTC, he added, will enforce policies that will make fleets of taxes, buses and jeepneys younger.
“With younger vehicles in our traffic, this will mean less carbon dioxide in the air we breathe, less accidents and less inconvenience for commuters. We will enforce a phase-out period of 10 years for taxis, 15 years for UV expresses and 10 years for multi-cabs,” said Roxas.
For ports projects, a central Roro Spine project worth P49.3 billion will be constructed linking Manila-Panay-Negros-Cebu-Bohol-Northern Mindanao. This project is expected to reduce overall travel time of passengers from nine to five hours from Luzon to Caticlan, 10 to four hours from Luzon to Roxas, and 21 to 10 hours from Manila to Cebu.
3. A new container and multipurpose terminal in Cebu worth P10.2 billion will be developed to expand port capacity in handling container traffic.
A P5-billion upgrade of the Davao Sasa port will be carried out to accommodate more passengers and cargo.
Also, P7.64 billion will be allocated for the improvement, expansion of various municipal ports nationwide.
All these projects, according to Roxas, will adhere to President Aquino’s 5Rs—right project, right quality, right people, right cost, and right on time.
Meanwhile, the President has appointed Cosette Canilao as executive director of the Public-Private Partnership Center (PPP Center), Malacañang said on Thursday.
Canilao has been PPP Center officer in charge since Philamer Torio resigned as executive director last month to pursue further studies.
Secretary Ramon Carandang of the Presidential Communications Development and Strategic Planning Office said Canilao is the “logical choice” for the job.
“She’s performed well and this eliminates the need for transition since she’s already there. She’s been there since the start,” Carandang said.
Presidential Spokesman Edwin Lacierda and Carandang said interest in the PPPs remains strong despite the perceived delay in bidding them out.
“There are still queries from investors. We just wanted to be sure that when we launch a project, it will be fully reviewed. In some of the projects, we have retained advisers or consultants to make sure that the project would be properly launched and when it’s bid out, it will be a complete project without attendant concerns anymore,” Lacierda said.
Asa ang tinuod???? Ang low-cost o ang 10 B???::lol:
ormocanon October 7th, 2011, 10:13 AM Ang P10 billion tingali kay ngilngig man ang design. I'm looking forward to this because I use MCIA in going to Central Visayas and Mindanao.
Henz October 7th, 2011, 10:16 AM kisi kisi jud dayon sya sa Low cost uy...
ang low cost.. seguro ang expansion lang na sa current terminal..
Pero kung istoryahan ang P/10 billion.. morag dili na na cheap bah? :lol:
jochval October 7th, 2011, 10:23 AM di ba murag luxurious ra man kaayo nang 10 Billion??
dako2x sad nig kick back..:lol:
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 7th, 2011, 10:23 AM kay murag nag renovate man gud ang MCIA T1 karon ba.... :D
wala pa man gud nagstart ang P10B MCIA T2! :D
Henz October 7th, 2011, 10:30 AM unsaon man Cebu man ta.. so cheap ra jud ta.. hehehehe
Ayaw na lang mo kalain anang P/10 billion.. :lol:
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 7th, 2011, 10:32 AM ^^
ayaw lang ng cheap kay sa pikas man na...low-cost lang para palahi sad! :lol:
majaba98 October 7th, 2011, 12:08 PM Low Cost terminal could be the existing one as soon as T2 is ready.
Parchie October 7th, 2011, 04:54 PM unsaon man Cebu man ta.. so cheap ra jud ta.. hehehehe
Ayaw na lang mo kalain anang P/10 billion.. :lol:
O/T: Imo lang i-agi ug joke2x ang imong mga pangluod ug pagkasagmuyo bahin aning prioritization ug allocation of infra funds no?
The way I see it, if MCIA gets to be at par with NAIA and becomes the viable alternate landing field for international flights, the later gets some reprieve and can move forward with the needed upgrading activities for it to get more efficient. The idea of "one man's loss is another man's gain" is deemed reversed, IMO.
Back to the topic: P10B today is good. P10B ten years from now could be a so-so.
mwg12a October 7th, 2011, 05:20 PM They are not very cautious on what they say there both probably in media as well as the government officials. Sigh....
Original plan was a Terminal two for international operations I believe. I hope that would still be it.
vicven2 October 10th, 2011, 03:46 AM Original plan was a Terminal two for international operations I believe. I hope that would still be it.
Dili ba sayang lang? T2 looks bigger than T1, but domestic needs a terminal bigger due to passenger volume. Do international flights really warrant such a big terminal?
How about T1 is LCC Domestic, T2 is Legacy Domestic and all International?
Parchie October 10th, 2011, 10:13 AM Dili ba sayang lang? T2 looks bigger than T1, but domestic needs a terminal bigger due to passenger volume. Do international flights really warrant such a big terminal?
How about T1 is LCC Domestic, T2 is Legacy Domestic and all International?
I see your point there.
Perhaps it's high time for us to get the main dishes and allocate the crumbs for "international" flights (being of lesser volume, you said).
On the other hand, we might as well consider that foreigners will not feel at ease boxed inside some small halls/waiting lounges.
BTW, how does one know this one is "BIG" and the other one is "small"? Is the old terminal small?
jochval October 10th, 2011, 10:20 AM ^^ and what is the difference between LCC Domestic and Legacy Domestic??
RepublicaNegrense October 10th, 2011, 11:20 AM ^^ and what is the difference between LCC Domestic and Legacy Domestic??
LCC means low-cost carriers. Legacy airlines serve full complementary services like free food, in-flight entertainment, hotel kung delayed flight, use of aerobridge kung meron etc. while LCC's do away with some or all of these and just give you a lift to where you are going. :D
jochval October 10th, 2011, 11:30 AM ah thanks for the info..:)
if we say LCC, those are CebuPac, Airphil, and ZestAir?
and Legacy are PAL flights?
RepublicaNegrense October 10th, 2011, 11:47 AM ah thanks for the info..:)
if we say LCC, those are CebuPac, Airphil, and ZestAir?
and Legacy are PAL flights?
Exactamente! :D
mwg12a October 10th, 2011, 12:17 PM Dili ba sayang lang? T2 looks bigger than T1, but domestic needs a terminal bigger due to passenger volume. Do international flights really warrant such a big terminal?
How about T1 is LCC Domestic, T2 is Legacy Domestic and all International?
Well, see its actually the LCCs the one contributing to growth so, if there is something that needs a bigger terminal would be all the LCCs. I do not think there is a congestion in the International wing because almost all international travels isn't growing as much as the Philippines increase in domestic travels due to the international financial crisis in US and EU.
I also noticed that LCCs serving asian regional routes is on the rise too, this would be a dilemna as far as deciding which one needs a bigger terminal since LCCs would be offering both international and domestic services in MCIA.
Perhaps Mr Zidlakan would probably give us an insight in his one of his spare time to check up on us here in LCC for an update and his usual tidbits for all of us...
hakhaimo October 11th, 2011, 09:30 AM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
WOW! Once this terminal will be done. This will open up a new breed of Airport Terminals! I hope Zamboanga's terminal would look the same but with a smaller version.
The Mactan Cebu design is so much better than the one in Durban. The next is building it.
Agree. The New terminal of [CEB] looks more classy than Durban.
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Question regarding the new terminal...
Does the roofing feature (the white diamond shaped) are tensile cloths? Is the roof supported the same as NAIA T2?
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 11th, 2011, 11:21 AM ^^
thanks for dropping by @hakhaimo! :okay:
actually, that is just an artist render of what could possibly look like once the project details are already final. :)
Blueleo October 11th, 2011, 05:56 PM MCIA Terminal Expansion Project (Oct. 10, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0366.jpg
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 11th, 2011, 06:10 PM ^^
now ito ang ibig sabihin ng low-cost expansion sa MCIA! :D
btw, thanks for the pics @blueleo! :okay:
mwg12a October 11th, 2011, 06:47 PM Atleast its taking shape now. I wonder if there is a way they can give this side an all glassy look all over so that it would more fresh, that can also be replicated on the facade I believe. Just an idea, it may not look good either, I just wonder what reaction i would get from it here...
ivanc October 12th, 2011, 06:46 AM i'd like it much more than that smart-advert-clad glass windows
majaba98 October 12th, 2011, 08:31 AM MCIA Terminal Expansion Project (Oct. 10, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0366.jpg
Even if it looks better with more glass, in my opinion it is better to adapt to the present design. Save money for T2. I´m sure that terminal will be built before T1 collapses due to overload of the riding public......:nuts::nuts::nuts:
hakhaimo October 12th, 2011, 08:47 AM Atleast its taking shape now. I wonder if there is a way they can give this side an all glassy look all over so that it would more fresh, that can also be replicated on the facade I believe. Just an idea, it may not look good either, I just wonder what reaction i would get from it here...
Even if it looks better with more glass, in my opinion it is better to adapt to the present design. Save money for T2. I´m sure that terminal will be built before T1 collapses due to overload of the riding public......:nuts::nuts::nuts:
Agree... It would look better if it still looks the same with the older structure... Uniformity... IMO, Let the Terminal 2 be the one with glass facades hehehe
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 12th, 2011, 10:35 AM ^^
me too. :okay:
Blueleo October 12th, 2011, 02:08 PM Free WI-FI Access Booth at waiting Lounge no. 5 courtesy of
Smart Communications at MCIA
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0358.jpg
Parchie October 12th, 2011, 02:34 PM ^^
me too. :okay:
Me three! Hahahaha
IamCebuano October 13th, 2011, 03:33 AM Free WI-FI Access Booth at waiting Lounge no. 5 courtesy of
Smart Communications at MCIA
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0358.jpg
The airport itself is covered with WIFI..:)
Sleepwalker October 13th, 2011, 04:11 AM What's the use of having a glassy terminal when it will be covered with SMART advertising banners later? :D
Mercato October 13th, 2011, 06:33 AM LCC means low-cost carriers. Legacy airlines serve full complementary services like free food, in-flight entertainment, hotel kung delayed flight, use of aerobridge kung meron etc. while LCC's do away with some or all of these and just give you a lift to where you are going. :Dah thanks for the info..:)
if we say LCC, those are CebuPac, Airphil, and ZestAir?
and Legacy are PAL flights?Exactamente! :DReally? :| Then I must've been in a time warp. But I did remember PAL serving orange juice, water and some biscuit snacks or sandwiches yeeeeeears ago. :lol:
However, on PAL PR868 Oct 7, 2011, they served nothing on board. The only thing I remembered was using the aerobridge. Did we the paying pax pay Full Legacy Fare only to get Full LCC service? Not to mention the loooooong almost 1 hour wait to retrieve our checked in baggage at T2? The flight itself was also 1 hour ...
Why carry the name of Legacy when one is actually functioning like an LCC? :lol: oh puh-lease ...
Wind Shear October 13th, 2011, 07:26 AM Really? :| Then I must've been in a time warp. But I did remember PAL serving orange juice, water and some biscuit snacks or sandwiches yeeeeeears ago. :lol:
However, on PAL PR868 Oct 7, 2011, they served nothing on board. The only thing I remembered was using the aerobridge. Did we the paying pax pay Full Legacy Fare only to get Full LCC service? Not to mention the loooooong almost 1 hour wait to retrieve our checked in baggage at T2? The flight itself was also 1 hour ...
Why carry the name of Legacy when one is actually functioning like an LCC? :lol: oh puh-lease ...
Well, PAL is a legacy airline, in name only. :lol:
RonnieR October 13th, 2011, 08:00 AM Look into the Philippine's Prime
Mactan - Cebu International Airport
Thread 7
http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
Thread 6 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=83677306#post83677306)
^^
now ito ang ibig sabihin ng low-cost expansion sa MCIA! :D
btw, thanks for the pics @blueleo! :okay:
The new airport looks great! Is this the DOTC project? It does not look like a LCT.
So, the one u/c is a LCT? Or are we referring to a different/new project?
RepublicaNegrense October 13th, 2011, 08:26 AM Really? :| Then I must've been in a time warp. But I did remember PAL serving orange juice, water and some biscuit snacks or sandwiches yeeeeeears ago. :lol:
However, on PAL PR868 Oct 7, 2011, they served nothing on board. The only thing I remembered was using the aerobridge. Did we the paying pax pay Full Legacy Fare only to get Full LCC service? Not to mention the loooooong almost 1 hour wait to retrieve our checked in baggage at T2? The flight itself was also 1 hour ...
Why carry the name of Legacy when one is actually functioning like an LCC? :lol: oh puh-lease ...
Well, PAL is a legacy airline, in name only. :lol:
You have to remember that PAL is still the nation's MAIN Flag Carrier and is the oldest airline of the country and even in Asia. I guess the term "Legacy" can also apply to that fact though not in service. :D
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 13th, 2011, 10:31 AM The new airport looks great! Is this the DOTC project? It does not look like a LCT.
So, the one u/c is a LCT? Or are we referring to a different/new project?
Yes I believe the new terminal is a DOTC project. and yes, it does not look like an LCT of P10 Billion right?! :D
MCIA Terminal Expansion Project (Oct. 10, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0366.jpg
now, this is what's currently being constructed in the terminal and this is a low-cost expansion. meron lang kasi ditong sadyang malisyoso masyado! :nuts:
mwg12a October 13th, 2011, 10:37 AM What's the use of having a glassy terminal when it will be covered with SMART advertising banners later? :D
True, they should ban the practice of using banners on the glass wall or windows of the terminal. I hope Mr Zidlakan would consider these also because I think it's more of an eye-sore than anything. They can do all their ads in a much better way inside the terminal but as big as those outside the terminal on glass windows and jet bridges.... I guess since I am not a fan of tattoos, I see those ads similar to how I see too much tattoo on someone, it looks dirty IMO. They are way over doing it there in the Philippines...
Sleepwalker October 13th, 2011, 10:41 AM True, they should ban the practice of using banners on the glass wall or windows of the terminal. I hope Mr Zidlakan would consider these also because I think it's more of an eye-sore than anything. They can do all their ads in a much better way inside the terminal but as big as those outside the terminal on glass windows and jet bridges.... I guess since I am not a fan of tattoos, I see those ads similar to how I see too much tattoo on someone, it looks dirty IMO. They are way over doing it there in the Philippines...
It does add some suffocating effect to the already crowded terminal.
I guess, digital signage is no longer that expensive. Perhaps MCIA can put up digital signage within the facilities and for some payment, can let private businesses put their advertising. It can display travel advisories, advertisements and news clippings.
Something like these: (Sorry for big pictures..Didn't figure out how to resize it.. :)
http://www.signcast.ca/admin/images/airport.jpg
http://adspronto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/011-1024x768.jpg
http://www.scala.com/images/solutiongalleryimgstransport.jpg
RonnieR October 13th, 2011, 12:24 PM Yes I believe the new terminal is a DOTC project. and yes, it does not look like an LCT of P10 Billion right?! :D
now, this is what's currently being constructed in the terminal and this is a low-cost expansion. meron lang kasi ditong sadyang malisyoso masyado! :nuts:
It's clear to me now. Thanks for the clarification. Good things are coming in Cebu, my favorite city. :cheers:
Parchie October 13th, 2011, 02:50 PM What's the use of having a glassy terminal when it will be covered with SMART advertising banners later? :D
If you had been in those waiting lounges/ passenger walkways inside during one of your flights, you will notice that you will have an unobstructed view of the ramp as well as the main runway where planes land and take-off! The banners you see from outside are perforated stickers that blinds someone's eyes into believing the glass windows are opaque when it's not.
mwg12a October 13th, 2011, 03:30 PM It does add some suffocating effect to the already crowded terminal.
I guess, digital signage is no longer that expensive. Perhaps MCIA can put up digital signage within the facilities and for some payment, can let private businesses put their advertising. It can display travel advisories, advertisements and news clippings.
Something like these: (Sorry for big pictures..Didn't figure out how to resize it.. :)
http://adspronto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/011-1024x768.jpg
http://www.scala.com/images/solutiongalleryimgstransport.jpg
Yep, these are all an excellent idea. It's what I have in mind actually. (sorry also, I had to delete the first pic in this quote its definitely big, one is enough)
I actually like this second picture where it is also where the public coin telephone is located, it would be nice if the Wi-Fi free internet access is placed in it there in MCIA.
Calling Sir Paul again!!! he he I hope you won't get annoyed with requests like these....
kalbongdad October 14th, 2011, 05:54 AM Even if it looks better with more glass, in my opinion it is better to adapt to the present design. Save money for T2. I´m sure that terminal will be built before T1 collapses due to overload of the riding public......:nuts::nuts::nuts:
ano hanggang ngayon ganyan pa din yan....the last time i flew in dyan sa cebu more than a year ago dalawa ng nga ata...ganyan na ang itsura ng expansion na yan hindi pa rin pala tapos yan....jmj....what the hell happened.....?
majaba98 October 14th, 2011, 07:33 AM ano hanggang ngayon ganyan pa din yan....the last time i flew in dyan sa cebu more than a year ago dalawa ng nga ata...ganyan na ang itsura ng expansion na yan hindi pa rin pala tapos yan....jmj....what the hell happened.....?
We´re in the Philippines my friend, don´t forget that ! I just hope you´re generation will work different once in power. It is time for a real change. No more corruption, functioning infrastructure, better for the country and their people as a whole. That but is a lesson to learn ! It´s not about an individual s´fate, rather about the peoples´ fate. One country - one fate; that´s what you call progress !
Blueleo October 14th, 2011, 08:58 AM Mactan Cebu International airport Terminal Expansion Project ( as of Oct. 14, 2011 )
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0462.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0467.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0470.jpg
*GoldFish* October 14th, 2011, 09:06 AM ^^ wow! hapit na. congrats!
*GoldFish* October 14th, 2011, 09:10 AM ^^ Thanks for the updates blue.
majaba98 October 14th, 2011, 12:34 PM Mactan Cebu International airport Terminal Expansion Project ( as of Oct. 14, 2011 )
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0462.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0467.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0470.jpg
What about the other side, same progress ?
MatudNilaBaby October 14th, 2011, 12:40 PM We´re in the Philippines my friend, don´t forget that ! I just hope you´re generation will work different once in power. It is time for a real change. No more corruption, functioning infrastructure, better for the country and their people as a whole. That but is a lesson to learn ! It´s not about an individual s´fate, rather about the peoples´ fate. One country - one fate; that´s what you call progress !
tinuod gyud na iyang observation oy nga dugay2x gyud nahuman nga kagamay ra ana nga expansion. like you said govierno man lagi lisod i compare sa trabaho sa mga pvt projects. at least nahuman na gyud ug sugod na sa t2.
jochval October 14th, 2011, 12:48 PM naa diay nay other side so meaning ang international ug domestic wing ang gi expand? usa ra man gud ako nabantayan..:D
mga pila ni ka gate ang napuno ani?
Parchie October 14th, 2011, 02:36 PM tinuod gyud na iyang observation oy nga dugay2x gyud nahuman nga kagamay ra ana nga expansion. like you said govierno man lagi lisod i compare sa trabaho sa mga pvt projects. at least nahuman na gyud ug sugod na sa t2.
Reading back on the threads (archives), the reason presented by Engr. Villarete was a problem with the contractor/s. I guess it's hard to make change orders with government projects. What we have is a very inflexible procurement system in our government. People in-charge of projects are wary of being labeled "corrupt" if they rush things. So, it's better that way than to get your head lopped-off or get your name sullied!
Patience is a good virtue indeed.
wesunsled October 14th, 2011, 02:48 PM kelan ba gagawin ang P10 billion terminal 2?
it's a big blow of tourism for cebu!
Blueleo October 14th, 2011, 03:33 PM What about the other side, same progress ?
naa diay nay other side so meaning ang international ug domestic wing ang gi expand? usa ra man gud ako nabantayan..:D
mga pila ni ka gate ang napuno ani?
the other side is lagging behind in its construction stage.
its all steel structure yet. No concrete or hollow blocks yet :ohno:
Parchie October 14th, 2011, 03:50 PM the other side is lagging behind in its construction stage.
its all steel structure yet. No concrete or hollow blocks yet :ohno:
Beams and columns are made of steel. The flooring is steel decking-supported concrete. The walls are reinforced CHB. That is if the other side will be mirrored on what they did on the almost-completed (right side, when looking from the ramp) portion.
calbayognon October 14th, 2011, 04:26 PM kelan ba gagawin ang P10 billion terminal 2?
it's a big blow of tourism for cebu!
Ayan ka naman. Manggugulo ka na naman.:ohno: Mali english mo.:bash:
wesunsled October 14th, 2011, 04:55 PM ikaw ata nangugulo ah? tama ata english mo
Parchie October 14th, 2011, 04:56 PM Ayan ka naman. Manggugulo ka na naman.:ohno: Mali english mo.:bash:
Hehehe. Di ko napansin yan! Go easy on him. "boost" could be a fitting word. Maybe just a typo.
mwg12a October 14th, 2011, 08:01 PM Blueleo is DA MAN! when it comes to airport photo update. Thanks much bud!!
I still think they should really remove those perforated stickers and let the glass windows stand out more. I'm sure metal cladding wouldn't fit the architecture of this airport, I guess because of the bright red roof and that its shape, unlike NAIA T1, I know some people opposed to the idea of putting metal cladding around it but i did see similar structure with metal cladding outside and it turns out really good. It's a different story with MCIA, but yes, the glass window would make it more appealing or presentable than with those smart ads all over.
RepublicaNegrense October 14th, 2011, 08:22 PM Blueleo is DA MAN! when it comes to airport photo update. Thanks much bud!!
I still think they should really remove those perforated stickers and let the glass windows stand out more. I'm sure metal cladding wouldn't fit the architecture of this airport, I guess because of the bright red roof and that its shape, unlike NAIA T1, I know some people opposed to the idea of putting metal cladding around it but i did see similar structure with metal cladding outside and it turns out really good. It's a different story with MCIA, but yes, the glass window would make it more appealing or presentable than with those smart ads all over.
Why not build a third floor in place of that bulging roof and transfer lounges, VIP rooms and offices there? That would give more breathing space for the Pre-Departure Area, Arrivals and Concessionaires for added income. :D
Fraulein October 14th, 2011, 08:52 PM Will be in Cebu airport later this morning. :)
Parchie October 14th, 2011, 08:59 PM Why not build a third floor in place of that bulging roof and transfer lounges, VIP rooms and offices there? That would give more breathing space for the Pre-Departure Area, Arrivals and Concessionaires for added income. :D
I think the roof of the airport is where the RTU's are placed (roof top units - HVAC). That would mean a great amount of work to be done not to mention the inconvenience of the people at the waiting lounges (at the second floor level) if ever that suggestion of yours is done.
mwg12a October 15th, 2011, 01:15 AM ^^ Yep, that would require the operation to stop and it would be messy for sure...
wesunsled October 15th, 2011, 10:39 AM Ayan ka naman. Manggugulo ka na naman.:ohno: Mali english mo.:bash:
^^boost lang ata ang alam mo na term sa pag unlad, kung di ka man lang doctor of education sa oxford university sa england it's better na tumahimik ka na lang, wala ka kasing karapatan na magcorrect ng isip ng isang tao,ok?
anyway, a "BIG BLOW", kayat ginamit ko yun, dahil, lakas, laki, at epekto sa P10 billion terminal 2 sa MCIA, kong wala kang alam sa development at plano ng MCIA terminal 2 eh, wag tayong magmagaling at mag astang tama tayo at mali ang isa
Parchie October 15th, 2011, 12:39 PM ^^boost lang ata ang alam mo na term sa pag unlad, kung di ka man lang doctor of education sa oxford university sa england it's better na tumahimik ka na lang, wala ka kasing karapatan na magcorrect ng isip ng isang tao,ok?
anyway, a "BIG BLOW", kayat ginamit ko yun, dahil, lakas, laki, at epekto sa P10 billion terminal 2 sa MCIA, kong wala kang alam sa development at plano ng MCIA terminal 2 eh, wag tayong magmagaling at mag astang tama tayo at mali ang isa
O/T:
"Words have thousands of meanings!", for a start!
Tried the web for help and these are the things i got (http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/blow_2):
blow 2 W3 [countable]
1. an action or event that causes difficulty or sadness for someone
COLLOCATIONS:http://www.ldoceonline.com/images/entry/closebox.gifserious/severe/major blow shattering/devastating/bitter blow cruel/heavy/grievous blow deal a blow (to somebody/ something)/ deal (somebody/something) a blow strike a blow suffer/ receive a blow come as a blow (to somebody) fatal/final/mortal blow (=one that ends something)
Joe resigned, which was a severe blow because we needed him desperately.(=something that makes you extremely disappointed and upset)
His mother's death was a shattering blow.
The election result dealt a further blow to the party.
The factory closures came as a blow to the local economy.
The final blow for many firms was the government's abolition of import duties.
2. Hard hit - a hard hit with someone's hand, a tool, or a weapon:
She died from a heavy blow to the head.
He struck a blow which threw her to the floor.Martin received a blow on the nose.
He had been struck a glancing blow (=a blow that did not hit him directly) by the car.
blow to - He gave her a violent blow to the head.
3. blowing - an action of blowing:
One big blow and the candles were out.
4. come to blows (with somebody) - if two people come to blows, they start arguing or hitting each other because they disagree about something come to blows (with somebody) over
They almost came to blows over the money.
5 soften/cushion the blow - to make something unpleasant easier for someone to accept:
A reduction in interest rates would soften the blow of tax increases.
6 low blow - American English informal something unkind you say to deliberately embarrass or upset someone
strike a blow for somebody/something
calbayognon October 15th, 2011, 01:03 PM ^^boost lang ata ang alam mo na term sa pag unlad, kung di ka man lang doctor of education sa oxford university sa england it's better na tumahimik ka na lang, wala ka kasing karapatan na magcorrect ng isip ng isang tao,ok?
anyway, a "BIG BLOW", kayat ginamit ko yun, dahil, lakas, laki, at epekto sa P10 billion terminal 2 sa MCIA, kong wala kang alam sa development at plano ng MCIA terminal 2 eh, wag tayong magmagaling at mag astang tama tayo at mali ang isa
Tingnan mo you dont even know what's your mistake...Big blow TO and not big blow OF...:ohno:I've been reading your comments in the different threads parang iisa kayo ni makatiprime na dati ring nanggugulo. Anyway, issue closed!
RepublicaNegrense October 15th, 2011, 01:14 PM ^^ Nagkamali ba ako nga punta or am I in the Right English Grammar Thread? :lol: Post CEB related post only guys. Let's not deviate to other hulaboos. There are just so many stuff to talk about CEB these days. :)
wesunsled October 15th, 2011, 01:26 PM hirap kasi sa mga magagaling kuno mag english, di naman magaling, this is CMIA thread, no space for english and grammar, kong gusto niyo sa mag ala master sa grammar at english, dun kayo sa ibang thread.
wesunsled October 15th, 2011, 01:39 PM Tingnan mo you dont even know what's your mistake...Big blow TO and not big blow OF...:ohno:I've been reading your comments in the different threads parang iisa kayo ni makatiprime na dati ring nanggugulo. Anyway, issue closed!
^^mao man talaga an awaon, deri nagfofocus sa ma sa kaupayan san para san development, an im gin iinintindi na mga grammar, aladaw intoy pangalap sin info nga damo, sugad san ikaduha nga airport san catarman,mga 39 km tikang sa catarman town proper, an catbalogan airport, an borongn airport, an aton mga highway, an aton turismo, an aton mga lugar
mao gad nga nahihibayaan kit nga mga samarnon kay sugad saim mga personalidad nga awaon ngan mas ginfofocusan an mga sala san iba nga tawo
waray ka doctoral degree para magkwestiyon sin tawo, wara ka pa libro o publication, mala ka an isda na dukot sin pating ngan kahuna niya pating nalat siya
Blueleo October 16th, 2011, 12:05 PM On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0462.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0467.jpg
mwg12a October 16th, 2011, 12:10 PM On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
Pati pala sa kabilang side may nagawa na din, yuong unang pictures na nakita nuon sa right side lang....
Grabe! Habang lakaran sa jetbridge na yan :lol::lol:
ivanc October 16th, 2011, 12:48 PM i also wish they will add an elevated walkway w/ walkalators or a long wide tube to connect Terminal 1 and 2, when the latter is done. the gap between the current terminal and the location of the proposed terminal 2 is just a stone's throw away, no need for some expensive train-type people mover.
AmbutLang October 16th, 2011, 03:35 PM i also wish they will add an elevated walkway w/ walkalators or a long wide tube to connect Terminal 1 and 2, when the latter is done. the gap between the current terminal and the location of the proposed terminal 2 is just a stone's throw away, no need for some expensive train-type people mover.
On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
Hopefully they will just install the walkway over the communication & radar consoles facility building. From T1 to T2. Like the photo below.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg145/scaled.php?server=145&filename=feb2009326.jpg&res=medium
cebuboi October 16th, 2011, 09:09 PM [QUOTE=Blueleo;84754769]On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
Thanks blue for the crisp pic of MCIA on-going expansion...
i know it will be a steep ascend and descend as well if we did level also the top of the jetway/bridge structure to the topmost level of that radar and communication facility as seen in the pics but aesthetically it will look best as oppose to the actual set up where in it looks likes a snake out arrangement because of the gradual descend as viewed from the tarmac side...IMO only
cebuboi October 17th, 2011, 08:00 AM from this
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
to this
http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz189/dyollnarud/IMG_0496-2.jpg
Parchie October 17th, 2011, 09:47 AM http://cebu-airport.com/index_html_m648ec5f2.jpg
from this
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
to this
http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz189/dyollnarud/IMG_0496-2.jpg
IDK, but from the looks of it, that control tower isn't going away AFAIS in the rendered picture of the new design for T2 (above).
We can't say with certainty because there are slope requirements as well as length of ramps limit. If the slope is too steep (greater than 1:8, absolute maximum), inspectors will disallow your design. If the length of the ramp goes beyond 9 meters (30 feet), you have to break the ramp and install a landing before you continue with sloping ramp.
Anyways, thanks for the effort/s in presenting what you think is aesthetically better. Sometimes designers will have to decide on specs in between what is beautiful to the eyes and what is practically agreeable to the regulators.
pi_malejana October 17th, 2011, 10:09 AM On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
sayang ung view nung facility, matatakpan na...:D
mwg12a October 17th, 2011, 11:15 AM IDK, but from the looks of it, that control tower isn't going away AFAIS in the rendered picture of the new design for T2 (above).
I hope when the authorities started planning the construction of T2, they should consider relocating that structure where the control tower is located, it would be wiser to have a walkway that would connect T1 and T2 so it would not require anymore train or shuttle service just to transfer from one building to another. I am sure there are passengers arriving from international destinations who would transfer to domestic flights since there are international carriers flying directly to Cebu like Qatar, Cathay, Korean Air and such.
Incidentally, how many local carriers are flying to Caticlan (Boracay) from Cebu and how many frequencies a day Are they using ATRs mostly?
ivanc October 17th, 2011, 11:30 AM but would the walkway interfere with the control tower bldg? i was thinking that the walkway would connect the un-secured area (the 2 pre-terminal bldgs)
mwg12a October 17th, 2011, 12:03 PM This new walkway which is the jetbridge? I don't think it will ....
litigs October 17th, 2011, 03:02 PM sayang ung view nung facility, matatakpan na...:D
This is just an extended airbridge walkway; I assume there is an exit midway to comply with life safety code; yes, CAAP personnel will loose their view. No more plane spotting for them.
anakngpasig October 17th, 2011, 03:05 PM ganda ng MCIA T2! :drool:
sana pag natapos na yung T2, i-renovate din nila yung T1.
AmbutLang October 17th, 2011, 03:23 PM [QUOTE=Blueleo;84754769]On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0495-1.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
Thanks blue for the crisp pic of MCIA on-going expansion...
i know it will be a steep ascend and descend as well if we did level also the top of the jetway/bridge structure to the topmost level of that radar and communication facility as seen in the pics but aesthetically it will look best as oppose to the actual set up where in it looks likes a snake out arrangement because of the gradual descend as viewed from the tarmac side...IMO only
There is an open space behind the tower facility. This will be the good place for the T1 & T2 connection. The white square building is the emergency generator in case the Mactan power is interrupted. These generator power the facility and the runway lights.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg64/scaled.php?server=64&filename=mcia.jpg&res=medium
ivanc October 17th, 2011, 05:11 PM This new walkway which is the jetbridge? I don't think it will ....
sorry for the confusion, what i am refering to is the "proposed" walkway to connect T1 and T2, similar to @ambutlang's post
s_w_stars October 17th, 2011, 06:45 PM sorry for the confusion, what i am refering to is the "proposed" walkway to connect T1 and T2, similar to @ambutlang's post
Are you assuming T2 will be on the air base side? Has Mr. Villarete indicated where it would be? In 2002, I pointed to someone in one agency, that there is no room for expansion other than there. They'll have to kick the air base out first.
AmbutLang October 17th, 2011, 09:21 PM Are you assuming T2 will be on the air base side? Has Mr. Villarete indicated where it would be? In 2002, I pointed to someone in one agency, that there is no room for expansion other than there. They'll have to kick the air base out first.
As you can see the propose T2, the Korean Air 747 is facing straight to the tower. :)
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/scaled.php?server=33&filename=indexhtmlm648ec5f2.jpg&res=medium
On-going Expansion of MCIA Terminal (Photos taken Oct. 14 & 16, 2011)
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu101/blueleo101/Ozamiz%20city/IMG_0496-1.jpg
mwg12a October 18th, 2011, 03:25 AM [QUOTE=cebuboi;84766909]
There is an open space behind the tower facility. This will be the good place for the T1 & T2 connection. The white square building is the emergency generator in case the Mactan power is interrupted. These generator power the facility and the runway lights.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg64/scaled.php?server=64&filename=mcia.jpg&res=medium
Sir Ambutlang, what's that white square structure on the left where your drawn "supposedly" walkway should be built? It would affect that structure for sure.
Parchie October 18th, 2011, 03:47 AM That's the powerhouse of MCIA. This is a separate building and everything can be adapted to accommodate whatever proposed additional structures MCIAA has in mind.
ivanc October 18th, 2011, 03:49 AM Are you assuming T2 will be on the air base side? Has Mr. Villarete indicated where it would be? In 2002, I pointed to someone in one agency, that there is no room for expansion other than there. They'll have to kick the air base out first.
i just based it from the render given.. MEPZ 1 is on the other side of the current terminal so i dont think it will rise there. the only vast track of land left there is that air base and gold course, the lot where the MIP lounge is
AmbutLang October 18th, 2011, 06:33 AM [QUOTE=AmbutLang;84787641]
Sir Ambutlang, what's that white square structure on the left where your drawn "supposedly" walkway should be built? It would affect that structure for sure.
that is one floor high ceiling generators building. It can be moved if necessary. The building in front is the Area Control Center, communication equipments, Radio communications where VFR flights(private planes) file their flight plans for area airports. Here employees will hitch a free ride one way. :)
vanillasky17 October 21st, 2011, 04:19 PM curius lang... what really happens with this aircraft... its long period of time na nagrest ni xa diri..
http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b412/vanillasky17/IMG_8805.jpg
habagatcentral1 October 21st, 2011, 06:35 PM May I refer this particular page (http://www.sleepinginairports.net/list.asp?region=6&country=Philippines&city=Cebu&terminal=CEB) to Sir Paul? These are the reviews from the controversial Sleeping Airports.net for Mactan-Cebu International Airport.
Link:
http://www.sleepinginairports.net/list.asp?region=6&country=Philippines&city=Cebu&terminal=CEB
mwg12a October 22nd, 2011, 01:52 AM ^^ Good Lord, I read that article from your link Bernie. Seems like they based it on comments given by alot of ignorant people. See how one stated :
sooo nice ! seriously half of the review I read here is just people that shit on the fact that the airport is dirty and stuff .. it is quite normal because you are in philippine and philippine is a poor contry .. anyway I had sleep in cebu airport to save some money because my plane was at 10 am the other days ... anyway nobody ask me anything I just took a place on the floor and sleep like a baby until 8 am . the palce was not that dirty and people were friendly to be honest it was better than a couple of hostel I have seen ;)
I wonder why it even matter when some of the comments there were from poor unsophisticated foreigngerms who probably didnt even have proper education. Sorry, but that article didn't really seems to sit well in my stomach... And some of us are so embarrassed by it????
I understand that the writer has no ill intention about the Philippines because he did say something positive about MCIA and the filipino people "people are friendly".. but Good Grief!!
Parchie October 22nd, 2011, 03:47 AM ^^ Good Lord, I read that article from your link Bernie. Seems like they based it on comments given by alot of ignorant people. See how one stated :
I wonder why it even matter when some of the comments there were from poor unsophisticated foreigngerms who probably didnt even have proper education. Sorry, but that article didn't really seems to sit well in my stomach... And some of us are so embarrassed by it????
I understand that the writer has no ill intention about the Philippines because he did say something positive about MCIA and the filipino people "people are friendly".. but Good Grief!!
The web page is very clear there. They're comparing airports where some of them have tried sleeping in.
No further arguments or reactions from my side here.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 22nd, 2011, 03:51 AM sleeping lang ba? meron din kayang planking in airports! :lol::lol::lol:
gud2ya October 22nd, 2011, 06:50 AM hopefully this will be realized soon:
http://cebudailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/072811jhm55.jpg
tunatuna October 22nd, 2011, 07:22 AM hopefully this will be realized soon:
http://cebudailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/072811jhm55.jpg
Sana soon na. at least man lang may airport tayong maipagmamalaki sa mundow.
pi_malejana October 22nd, 2011, 08:59 AM KOICA din ba ang may gawa nung design?? sana ma-finance na yan at masimulan kaagad...:D
kaso sana dun sa terminal design, gawin nilang two-level ung access...:2cents:
:cheers:
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 22nd, 2011, 10:58 AM Sana soon na. at least man lang may airport tayong maipagmamalaki sa mundow.
thank you bai! sana nga matuloy para hindi na tayo pagtatawanan ng mga walang kwenta at ignoranteng mga dayuhan sa lagay ng mga airports natin.
cebuboi October 22nd, 2011, 11:10 AM thank you bai! sana nga matuloy para hindi na tayo pagtatawanan ng mga walang kwenta at ignoranteng mga dayuhan sa lagay ng mga airports natin.
to which @ some point bai true man sad...tinood na-a ang basic services but it pale in comparison to the others....:)
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 22nd, 2011, 11:14 AM ^^
we can't do anything about it. nandyan na yan. at least for now, we have a newer, bigger and much better airport and it will be built in Cebu! :cheers:
I hope the new terminal will have amenities, facilities and services will also be at par from other award-winning international airports. :okay:
litigs October 22nd, 2011, 02:44 PM ^^
we can't do anything about it. nandyan na yan. at least for now, we have a newer, bigger and much better airport and it will be built in Cebu! :cheers:
I hope the new terminal will have amenities, facilities and services will also be at par from other award-winning international airports. :okay:
I have no issues with Mactan because for one thing I am emotionally attached to it, having enjoyed the old terminal with Mactan stone finish, quaint interiors plus a vending machine that dispenses sandwiches. It was simple, clean, comfortable then. Now is just a larger version of it with more options for food, washrooms and lounges. I can sleep here anytime!
RepublicaNegrense October 22nd, 2011, 03:48 PM I have no issues with Mactan because for one thing I am emotionally attached to it, having enjoyed the old terminal with Mactan stone finish, quaint interiors plus a vending machine that dispenses sandwiches. It was simple, clean, comfortable then. Now is just a larger version of it with more options for food, washrooms and lounges. I can sleep here anytime!
There was an older terminal than this present one? So, is this a third expansion they are doing now? :)
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 22nd, 2011, 03:53 PM ^^ no @litigs meant the current terminal. :)
litigs October 22nd, 2011, 05:45 PM There was an older terminal than this present one? So, is this a third expansion they are doing now? :)
That was Mactan circa 80s, BAC-111s and HS 748s rule the Philippine skies!
RepublicaNegrense October 22nd, 2011, 07:58 PM That was Mactan circa 80s, BAC-111s and HS 748s rule the Philippine skies!
There was an airfield in Mactan during the 1980's? :? Or are you referring to the Old Airport in Lahug? :D
Sky Harbor October 22nd, 2011, 08:26 PM ^^ Yes, there is. CEB has been in service since the 1960s.
RepublicaNegrense October 22nd, 2011, 09:24 PM ^^ Yes, there is. CEB has been in service since the 1960s.
It means there were two airfields servicing Cebú City at that time, both Lahug and Mactan? Since Lahug Airport was only closed in 1991, I am more confused. :|
litigs October 22nd, 2011, 11:53 PM It means there were two airfields servicing Cebú City at that time, both Lahug and Mactan? Since Lahug Airport was only closed in 1991, I am more confused. :|
I see, understand you are not familiar with the city. Yes, Cebu before has two airports; Lahug being the original commercial aviation field, then Mactan later(also used as a transition point for the Americans during the Vietnam war). Mactan then became the primary airport for commercial and military use while Lahug remained as general aviation only and ocassional training ground for PAF and Navy choppers. As Cebu progressed, all general aviation(with much opposition) transferred to Mactan; Lahug now is the IT park.
manila2020 October 23rd, 2011, 02:23 AM hopefully this will be realized soon:
http://cebudailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/072811jhm55.jpg
HANTAAAAAAGAAAAAAAL!!!!!:nuts:
mwg12a October 23rd, 2011, 05:54 AM The web page is very clear there. They're comparing airports where some of them have tried sleeping in.
No further arguments or reactions from my side here.
Problema nga ang pinag compare'an, mga international transit hub sa NAIA o MCIA na end terminal of travel, naturally, hindi mag keep up to that standard. But my point on that one particular article, the person stated "It's the Philippines, it's expected that the surroundings are dirty" that's the impression they are imparting to the world and that filipinos being friendly is simply just a consolation... Para bang sinasabi na hanggang ganoon na lang talaga ang standard ng filipinas, marumi....
I do not think this is a very fair statement....
review I read here is just people that shit on the fact that the airport is dirty and stuff ..
.. it is quite normal because you are in philippine and philippine is a poor contry ..
So, are you agreing to the fact that just because the country is considered a poor country, everything is dirty ? I don't think NAIA T2 is dirty, neither do T1 and MCIA since i've frequented these airports more than just a dozen...
First of all, when one leaves the country, they go through security checks as mandated by FAA especially if hey are heading to North America, that alone as well as checking in pretty much consume your time which is normal considering the PAL bombing in the 90s. It's not like one of those international transit hubs where there are instances where the passengers in transit had to wait more than 4 hours that they can sleep anywhere in the predeparture gates. MCIA just like NAIA, all passengers are hauled in and out at once, passengers do not need to wait in the predeparture or arrival area that long, you pretty much breeze in, breeze out. Now tell me how in the world would MCIA would require spaces for snoozers if the passengers do not stay there long enough since it's not an international transit hub... The most transit you would experience in MCIA are through domestic travel where the usual lay over is 2hrs only and that is not too short of a lay over, MCIA is just too small for a passenger to get lost from one gate to another just how they would probably experience in HK's Chep Lak Kok International airport which is an international transit hub, HK is too small to have domestic flights. Chinese carriers does not necessary use HK airport just for domestic flight, for instance, Shenshen to Guangshou, they always have direct connections to pint a to point b...
mwg12a October 23rd, 2011, 06:12 AM Sana soon na. at least man lang may airport tayong maipagmamalaki sa mundow.
thank you bai! sana nga matuloy para hindi na tayo pagtatawanan ng mga walang kwenta at ignoranteng mga dayuhan sa lagay ng mga airports natin.
Yeah really. Kung hindi magawa sa Manila or Clark, atleast sa Cebu maipagmamalaki ng mga filipino.
Nagkaroon nga ng magandang terminal ang Iloilo at Bacolod, pati na ang Davao, impossibleng hindi ma realized ang sa MCIA...
RepublicaNegrense October 23rd, 2011, 08:45 AM I see, understand you are not familiar with the city. Yes, Cebu before has two airports; Lahug being the original commercial aviation field, then Mactan later(also used as a transition point for the Americans during the Vietnam war). Mactan then became the primary airport for commercial and military use while Lahug remained as general aviation only and ocassional training ground for PAF and Navy choppers. As Cebu progressed, all general aviation(with much opposition) transferred to Mactan; Lahug now is the IT park.
Thank you for the info. :okay: I am not really much familiar with post-Lahug Airport Cebú since I only came in the year 2000 when Lahug was already being developed for that IT Park and Mactan is much well placed in the current Terminal. :)
boy muscovado October 23rd, 2011, 09:50 AM Thank you for the info. :okay: I am not really much familiar with post-Lahug Airport Cebú since I only came in the year 2000 when Lahug was already being developed for that IT Park and Mactan is much well placed in the current Terminal. :)
When I first came to cebu in 1989, I still saw planes of Aboitiz Air Cargo and those from nearby flying schools utilizing the Lahug Airport but PAL's BAC 1-11 and Fokker-50 were already using Mactan's Airport. The edge of the Lahug Airport runway is just a stoneaway from the main road that time
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 23rd, 2011, 10:09 AM doc, is the main road you are referring to Salinas Drive?
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 23rd, 2011, 10:27 AM Yeah really. Kung hindi magawa sa Manila or Clark, atleast sa Cebu maipagmamalaki ng mga filipino.
Nagkaroon nga ng magandang terminal ang Iloilo at Bacolod, pati na ang Davao, impossibleng hindi ma realized ang sa MCIA...
meron bang nakapropose na bagong terminal bldg sa Clark?
boy muscovado October 23rd, 2011, 10:32 AM doc, is the main road you are referring to Salinas Drive?
I think so...maliit pa ako kasi noon and i was surprised may airplane na umiikot sa runway malapit sa road. :D
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 23rd, 2011, 10:38 AM ^^
hehehe... ako hindi ko pa kabisado ang Lahug area nung time na yun kasi malayo sa Capitol area kung san ako lumaki. Pagsinabi kasing Lahug, nasa isip ko kaagad Cebu Plaza Hotel so nasa bundok! :lol:
boy muscovado October 23rd, 2011, 11:30 AM ^^
hehehe... ako hindi ko pa kabisado ang Lahug area nung time na yun kasi malayo sa Capitol area kung san ako lumaki. Pagsinabi kasing Lahug, nasa isip ko kaagad Cebu Plaza Hotel so nasa bundok! :lol:
I think it is Salinas...hehehehe...basta what I remember madadaanan mo muna ang UP College Cebu then Carmelite then those flying schools and then the golf course...oo papuntang bundok kasi pag nasa DOST Region 7 ka na mataas na yun...syempre ang Cebu Plaza Hotel noon ang nag iisang hari ng buildings sa bundok :D
So the last time I went there last year, naku I was overwhelmed by Asiatown
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 23rd, 2011, 11:39 AM nakapasal lang ako sa Lahug area nung tumongtong na ako ng grade 6 pero hanggang Nivel Hills lang. hindi ko na naabutan ang Lahug Airport kasi yung unang pasal ko dun, IT park na sya. :D
boy muscovado October 23rd, 2011, 12:28 PM nakapasal lang ako sa Lahug area nung tumongtong na ako ng grade 6 pero hanggang Nivel Hills lang. hindi ko na naabutan ang Lahug Airport kasi yung unang pasal ko dun, IT park na sya. :D
Putik!!!.....it shows my age na talaga:nuts::nuts:....when I first came to Cebu ang SM City ay hinuhukay pa lang with lots of iron bars
ang Nivel Hills ay site pa ng 7th or 8th BSP National Jamboree...so medyo kagubatan at meadows pa yun. :D
the last buildings papuntang Lahug ay bandang Carmelite pa lang...the rest mga kabahayan na lang at mga puno ng Kalachuchi :lol::lol:
Ang Mactan Airport noon ay one and only "big structure" sa Mactan Island na famously interchanged pa as Mactan Air Base :nuts::nuts:
naku...grabe talaga......ang mga airport talaga no? pag bagong tayo naging center of development, pag nilisan at nilipat nagiging bagong area of development ulit. :banana::banana:
wesunsled October 23rd, 2011, 12:38 PM HANTAAAAAAGAAAAAAAL!!!!!:nuts:
^^ approved na ang terminal 2 ng MCIA, worth P10 billion ang budget, plus nireredevelop pa ang T1 ng MCIA at nagdadagdag ng aero bridges
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 23rd, 2011, 12:57 PM Putik!!!.....it shows my age na talaga:nuts::nuts:....when I first came to Cebu ang SM City ay hinuhukay pa lang with lots of iron bars
ang Nivel Hills ay site pa ng 7th or 8th BSP National Jamboree...so medyo kagubatan at meadows pa yun. :D
the last buildings papuntang Lahug ay bandang Carmelite pa lang...the rest mga kabahayan na lang at mga puno ng Kalachuchi :lol::lol:
Ang Mactan Airport noon ay one and only "big structure" sa Mactan Island na famously interchanged pa as Mactan Air Base :nuts::nuts:
naku...grabe talaga......ang mga airport talaga no? pag bagong tayo naging center of development, pag nilisan at nilipat nagiging bagong area of development ulit. :banana::banana:
:lol::lol::lol:
doc halata nga! jowk! :lol::nocrook::D
yung ginawa ang SM hindi ko pa alam yun. :D parang alam na alam mo ang Cebu nung time na yun doc ah! :D
kasi yung pasayalan lang talga namin nuon is Colon-Fuente-Capitol-Mango areas lang talaga. alam namin merong Lahug merong Mabolo pero hindi kami magagawi dun kasi malayo na sa amin.
boy muscovado October 23rd, 2011, 01:19 PM :lol::lol::lol:
doc halata nga! jowk! :lol::nocrook::D
yung ginawa ang SM hindi ko pa alam yun. :D parang alam na alam mo ang Cebu nung time na yun doc ah! :D
kasi yung pasayalan lang talga namin nuon is Colon-Fuente-Capitol-Mango areas lang talaga. alam namin merong Lahug merong Mabolo pero hindi kami magagawi dun kasi malayo na sa amin.
alam mo kasi tumatak sa memory ko yun coz its my first Cebu visit....and medyo bago pa sa amin ang idea ng "airport sa ibang island na may bridge papuntang Cebu" :lol:...then pag land trip naman namangha ako na ang bus ay isinasakay sa "barge" (ang tawag sa nga RORO ships before) para tumawid ng dagat :D
We always live with our titas and titos in Subangdaku, Mandaue so it takes time for us to go to downtown Cebu to go to Rosita's and syempre Gaisano. Bumaha pa sa colon when we went there.:nuts:
na experience ko talaga yung plane ride na tumatagal lng ng 20 minutes from Bacolod....yung di pa umiinit ang pwet mo ng masyado e andun ka na
Zeibu October 23rd, 2011, 04:45 PM KOICA din ba ang may gawa nung design?? sana ma-finance na yan at masimulan kaagad...:D
kaso sana dun sa terminal design, gawin nilang two-level ung access...:2cents:
:cheers:
i think similar yung design nya from mcia terminal 1.. there will be an access road in between the airport building for arrivals.. if i remember the airport in LAX has the same design.. the ones here in manila (NAIA2 and NAIA 3.. dont know with NAIA 1) have two-level designs and the 2nd level are for arrivals..
tunatuna October 24th, 2011, 12:06 AM Yeah really. Kung hindi magawa sa Manila or Clark, atleast sa Cebu maipagmamalaki ng mga filipino.
Nagkaroon nga ng magandang terminal ang Iloilo at Bacolod, pati na ang Davao, impossibleng hindi ma realized ang sa MCIA...
Maganda naman yung cebu airport ngaun.... Brutalist-- tipong pang marcos era.
mwg12a October 24th, 2011, 02:01 AM ^^ I have no complaints about MCIA. I don't think i've ever seen it dirty.
i think similar yung design nya from mcia terminal 1.. there will be an access road in between the airport building for arrivals.. if i remember the airport in LAX has the same design.. the ones here in manila (NAIA2 and NAIA 3.. dont know with NAIA 1) have two-level designs and the 2nd level are for arrivals..
It just look grander and bigger if the departure is on the second level while the arrival is down at the ground level.
All 3 terminals in NAIA have two levels.
The only thing with this MCIA concept design since it's the same set up with the old terminal building is that when you drive around or when you are approaching it, you would only see a one story level it seems like, you won't be able to appreciate the design of the terminal unless you see it above on a bird's eye view, ofcourse once you're close to it, the part that would greet you is the glassy wall or whatever they would be using for it, it could be metal finish. unlike if you have two levels, when you are going through the driveway and up to the ramp, you'd really appreciate the design from the distance.
AmbutLang October 24th, 2011, 07:11 AM That was Mactan circa 80s, BAC-111s and HS 748s rule the Philippine skies!
Also the Fokker twin engines prop. :)
tunatuna October 24th, 2011, 07:16 AM ^^ I have no complaints about MCIA. I don't think i've ever seen it dirty.
It just look grander and bigger if the departure is on the second level while the arrival is down at the ground level.
All 3 terminals in NAIA have two levels.
The only thing with this MCIA concept design since it's the same set up with the old terminal building is that when you drive around or when you are approaching it, you would only see a one story level it seems like, you won't be able to appreciate the design of the terminal unless you see it above on a bird's eye view, ofcourse once you're close to it, the part that would greet you is the glassy wall or whatever they would be using for it, it could be metal finish. unlike if you have two levels, when you are going through the driveway and up to the ramp, you'd really appreciate the design from the distance.
I wish they'd show the proposed interior and floor plan.
pi_malejana October 24th, 2011, 07:49 AM i think similar yung design nya from mcia terminal 1.. there will be an access road in between the airport building for arrivals.. if i remember the airport in LAX has the same design.. the ones here in manila (NAIA2 and NAIA 3.. dont know with NAIA 1) have two-level designs and the 2nd level are for arrivals..
based on the pic, the proposed terminal will be larger than old one; i'm guessing a capacity of around 3 million a year??:dunno:
Naia 1 has a capacity of around 4.5mil (?) and it has two-level access, the new terminal in Cebu should have it too just in case it gets busier in the years to come, just my two cents..:)
:cheers:
tunatuna October 24th, 2011, 08:00 AM Sana wag gayahin yung LAX... Hindi naman kagandahan yun.
litigs October 24th, 2011, 03:58 PM Also the Fokker twin engines prop. :)
Yes and add the SD-360s to that!, then PAL went down!
litigs October 24th, 2011, 04:05 PM I think it is Salinas...hehehehe...basta what I remember madadaanan mo muna ang UP College Cebu then Carmelite then those flying schools and then the golf course...oo papuntang bundok kasi pag nasa DOST Region 7 ka na mataas na yun...syempre ang Cebu Plaza Hotel noon ang nag iisang hari ng buildings sa bundok :D
So the last time I went there last year, naku I was overwhelmed by Asiatown
Salinas drive was the road bisecting the old Lahug airport if you from the north. It was akin to the airport crossing in Gibraltar where vehicles line up while the traffic bar is down as a cessna takes-off! Once the "sekyu" lifts the bar up, all vehicles then cross and hit Gorrordo avenue on the southside(Waterfront hotel now) then you can go onwards south to SM at the Pier. I think the younger generation may not have realized Asiatown is a former airport. It was heavily used by genav.
RepublicaNegrense October 24th, 2011, 05:09 PM Salinas drive was the road bisecting the old Lahug airport if you from the north. It was akin to the airport crossing in Gibraltar where vehicles line up while the traffic bar is down as a cessna takes-off! Once the "sekyu" lifts the bar up, all vehicles then cross and hit Gorrordo avenue on the southside(Waterfront hotel now) then you can go onwards south to SM at the Pier. I think the younger generation may not have realized Asiatown is a former airport. It was heavily used by genav.
Its much like Loakan Airport pala where that system also exist. :) About the latter, the same fact that most of the Makati yuppies don't have a sliver of knowledge that Ayala Avenue used to be a runway and your Triangle Park as airport premises. :lol:
boy muscovado October 24th, 2011, 05:27 PM Salinas drive was the road bisecting the old Lahug airport if you from the north. It was akin to the airport crossing in Gibraltar where vehicles line up while the traffic bar is down as a cessna takes-off! Once the "sekyu" lifts the bar up, all vehicles then cross and hit Gorrordo avenue on the southside(Waterfront hotel now) then you can go onwards south to SM at the Pier. I think the younger generation may not have realized Asiatown is a former airport. It was heavily used by genav.
Ahhhhh...so ganun pala ang reason bakit ang lapit lang sa daan ng umiikot na airplane sa runway....hehehehe....thanks po ha. at least naabutan ko pala yun before ..... so thats the reason na when I came back to Cebu in 1994, di ko na nakita ang airport sa Lahug, siguro natabunan yun ng cogon grass that time :lol:
Its much like Loakan Airport pala where that system also exist. :) About the latter, the same fact that most of the Makati yuppies don't have a sliver of knowledge that Ayala Avenue used to be a runway and your Triangle Park as airport premises. :lol:
...or realized that Shangri-La Makati was the passenger terminal
RepublicaNegrense October 24th, 2011, 06:57 PM ...or realized that Shangri-La Makati was the passenger terminal
I guess Asiatown would forever eclipse its past history as Lahug Airport. If there is the control tower still standing in Triangle Park to remind us of Ayala Center's past as the former premiere gateway, is there also an equivalent landmark in Asiatown? :)
boy muscovado October 25th, 2011, 03:53 AM I guess Asiatown would forever eclipse its past history as Lahug Airport. If there is the control tower still standing in Triangle Park to remind us of Ayala Center's past as the former premiere gateway, is there also an equivalent landmark in Asiatown? :)
nope....maybe the main road of Asiatown IT Park extending towards the Waterfront Hotel was the former runway . Even I couldn't see it anymore as a former airport. In Google Earth I couldn't decipher which is the old runway area...hehehehehe...unlike the Ayala-Paseo de Roxas-Makati Ave Triangle ^^
litigs October 25th, 2011, 04:57 AM nope....maybe the main road of Asiatown IT Park extending towards the Waterfront Hotel was the former runway . Even I couldn't see it anymore as a former airport. In Google Earth I couldn't decipher which is the old runway area...hehehehehe...unlike the Ayala-Paseo de Roxas-Makati Ave Triangle ^^
Paul Villarete a.k.a. "Zidlakan" is the former city planner, he may have knowledge whether a historical marker for Lahug Airport has been embedded. The runway is bounded by Waterfront at the westt and Gaisano country mall at the east. Lahug was still operating when Country Mall( Cebu's first mall) was built. It is not directly in the path of the runway though.
sfo way sipyat October 25th, 2011, 05:30 AM Also the Fokker twin engines prop. :)
If i'm not mistaken that was the age of the VIscount
AmbutLang October 25th, 2011, 07:03 AM Paul Villarete a.k.a. "Zidlakan" is the former city planner, he may have knowledge whether a historical marker for Lahug Airport has been embedded. The runway is bounded by Waterfront at the westt and Gaisano country mall at the east. Lahug was still operating when Country Mall( Cebu's first mall) was built. It is not directly in the path of the runway though.
Lahug was still operating in 1972 for private planes. The Tip of the runway was where the waterfront Hotel, to up close to the Gaisano country mall is and a few feet from the M.C. Cuenco Ave. which was not there before, but constracted late 1972. This was the time I started working at Mactan and went to college at USC-Talamaban as working student. My school instructor was my boss in Mactan Engineering Maintenance who recruited his students to work at CAA.
When I studied in Manila in high school, I boarded either the Viscount or the 248? for MNL at Lahug since PAL stop using DC3 for CEB-MNL but still used on other route. I think YS-11 came a year later. That said , you guest I am that old. :nuts: :lol:
Parchie October 25th, 2011, 11:02 AM Lahug was still operating in 1972 for private planes. The Tip of the runway was where the waterfront Hotel, to up close to the Gaisano country mall is and a few feet from the M.C. Cuenco Ave. which was not there before, but constracted late 1972. This was the time I started working at Mactan and went to college at USC-Talamaban as working student. My school instructor was my boss in Mactan Engineering Maintenance who recruited his students to work at CAA.
When I studied in Manila in high school, I boarded either the Viscount or the 248? for MNL at Lahug since PAL stop using DC3 for CEB-MNL but still used on other route. I think YS-11 came a year later. That said , you guest I am that old. :nuts: :lol:
O/T:
I was thinking DC3's are extinct. I last touched a DC3 the other year when a project ran out of argon gas supply. The company chartered a big old DC3 to fly in some cylinders from Manila! Guess what? The pilot was as old as the DC3! Hahahahaha. A retired PAL pilot who is unto local air freight business. Though noisy, it served us well.
boy muscovado October 25th, 2011, 03:18 PM Cargo planes were still operating in Lahug in 1989, that was the time I saw that Aboitiz Cargo Plane taxiing along the runway
litigs October 25th, 2011, 03:20 PM Lahug was still operating in 1972 for private planes. The Tip of the runway was where the waterfront Hotel, to up close to the Gaisano country mall is and a few feet from the M.C. Cuenco Ave. which was not there before, but constracted late 1972. This was the time I started working at Mactan and went to college at USC-Talamaban as working student. My school instructor was my boss in Mactan Engineering Maintenance who recruited his students to work at CAA.
When I studied in Manila in high school, I boarded either the Viscount or the 248? for MNL at Lahug since PAL stop using DC3 for CEB-MNL but still used on other route. I think YS-11 came a year later. That said , you guest I am that old. :nuts: :lol:
He,he, guys who studied in USC-Talamban knows Lahug too well! I was in Cebu Aero Tech School aptly called "CATS", then the airport closed. I finished up in Talamban, they call you "taga-bukid" if you studied from there. small world but age doesn't matter. Keep your updates "bai"!
AmbutLang October 25th, 2011, 07:42 PM Cargo planes were still operating in Lahug in 1989, that was the time I saw that Aboitiz Cargo Plane taxiing along the runway
I always thought that the Lahug airport was closing by mid 1970's since the aircraft radio receiver towers facility is located at the southern end of the runway and the transmitting facility towers is at the northern end of the runway at Mactan. The ACC communications are transmitted to Mt. Magic by 2 microwave coded channels one is back-up or by 2 PLDT OPEN LINES as a 3rd and 4th back-up or vice versa since it will be rotated in its usage.
I do not know when the Lahug airport close, since I left my job in 1974 at Mactan as CAA Airways Tech'n and migrated to the US with most of my siblings. :)
lancelliot October 26th, 2011, 11:31 AM Pics taken @ noon today Oct. 26,2011.
It seems that MCIA is quite full during this time of the day. With two international flights (CX and Tiger) plus a couple of 5J's and there was an incoming 2P and 5J A320 which I wasnt able to take pics.
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majaba98 October 26th, 2011, 03:53 PM Pics taken @ noon today Oct. 26,2011.
It seems that MCIA is quite full during this time of the day. With two international flights (CX and Tiger) plus a couple of 5J's and there was an incoming 2P and 5J A320 which I wasnt able to take pics.
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GREAT SHOTS LANCELLIOT, THANKS FOR SHARING !! Did you have access to the visitors bay ?:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
cebuboi October 26th, 2011, 03:57 PM kumusta kaha ang load factor aning tiger pa singapore...
vanillasky17 October 26th, 2011, 04:50 PM Inaugural
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boy muscovado October 26th, 2011, 06:30 PM wow...congrats Cebu...naku napapalapit na talaga ang mga int'l flights to more Visayan islands....
*GoldFish* October 26th, 2011, 06:34 PM ^^ wow congrats MCIA. Ilan na ba ang mga international flights jan? can someone name them?
MatudNilaBaby October 26th, 2011, 06:55 PM wow...congrats Cebu...naku napapalapit na talaga ang mga int'l flights to more Visayan islands....
if theyre planning to transfer the international airport from naia to clark, sana with mcia's new terminal 2, they will open cebu as the gateway for southerners and not just an alternate international airport. samok naman pud kaayo kon ang taga visayas and mindanao molutas pa sa manila unya transfer napud sa domestic airport. mao nay naka daghan sa tao sa naia nga crowded kaayo inig sulod palang nimo mahadlok naka. decongesting it is the best solution.
sa akong huna2x nganong gi propose ni nila nga transfer kay sayon siguro pag elevate sa philippine status from cat 2 to cat 1 kon bag-o ang mga airports such as clark kay wala ta kahibalo kon unsay bureacracy dinha sa naia kon ngano hasta karon wala pa gyud ta ma lift sa cat 2. ug naay daghan mga buaya dinha sa sulod sa naia lisod kaayo na tangtangon unless ibalhin ug magsugod sa uno para sa international airport sa kaulohan. thats my take on why they are proposing the transfer to clark. mora ug subtle kaayo nga pagka ingon ba so as not to irate the national capital region nga walay ayo ang pamalakad sa naia.
LordCarnal October 26th, 2011, 07:05 PM Paul Villarete a.k.a. "Zidlakan" is the former city planner, he may have knowledge whether a historical marker for Lahug Airport has been embedded. The runway is bounded by Waterfront at the westt and Gaisano country mall at the east. Lahug was still operating when Country Mall( Cebu's first mall) was built. It is not directly in the path of the runway though.
I can still remember the control tower back in 1992 when my uncle landed there. I was grade two then, around eight years old. The control tower was located at where Skyrise 4 now stands.
Ayala shouldn't have demolished that control tower. It could have been some sort of a historical marker today.
Also, there was a towering cross near the control tower. It was a remnant of Pope John Paul II's visit to Cebu where he celebrated mass at the then Lahug Airport.
The cross and the control tower were there back in 1992 all the way to 1994 or 95 I think.
Ayala should have preserved those structures.
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MatudNilaBaby October 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM I can still remember the control tower back in 1992 when my uncle landed there. I was grade two then, around eight years old. The control tower was located at where Skyrise 4 now stands.
Ayala shouldn't have demolished that control tower. It could have been some sort of a historical marker today.
Also, there was a towering cross near the control tower. It was a remnant of Pope John Paul II's visit to Cebu where he celebrated mass at the then Lahug Airport.
The cross and the control tower were there back in 1992 all the way to 1994 or 95 I think.
Ayala should have preserved those structures.
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ila unta to nga i replicate bisan ug copy nalang. ibutang nila sa ciudad kay historical landmarks man sab to.
wil1985 October 27th, 2011, 12:25 AM huh?naa na diay direct flights ang qantas sa cebu?hmmmm..ngita tag qantas flight pauli beh..hehehehe :P ooopss..QATAR airways diay..hahaha..karon rako kabantay sa ilang font style sa Q..lahi pud ug color ang qantas..tsk tsk
mwg12a October 27th, 2011, 12:45 AM Inaugural
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Inaugural? I thought Qatar has been flying to Cebu for a long while already?
mwg12a October 27th, 2011, 01:04 AM if theyre planning to transfer the international airport from naia to clark, sana with mcia's new terminal 2, they will open cebu as the gateway for southerners and not just an alternate international airport. samok naman pud kaayo kon ang taga visayas and mindanao molutas pa sa manila unya transfer napud sa domestic airport. mao nay naka daghan sa tao sa naia nga crowded kaayo inig sulod palang nimo mahadlok naka. decongesting it is the best solution.
sa akong huna2x nganong gi propose ni nila nga transfer kay sayon siguro pag elevate sa philippine status from cat 2 to cat 1 kon bag-o ang mga airports such as clark kay wala ta kahibalo kon unsay bureacracy dinha sa naia kon ngano hasta karon wala pa gyud ta ma lift sa cat 2. ug naay daghan mga buaya dinha sa sulod sa naia lisod kaayo na tangtangon unless ibalhin ug magsugod sa uno para sa international airport sa kaulohan. thats my take on why they are proposing the transfer to clark. mora ug subtle kaayo nga pagka ingon ba so as not to irate the national capital region nga walay ayo ang pamalakad sa naia.
They are proposing the transfer of NAIA to Clark especifically due the the limited space available now in NAIA when Clark has a very ample space for expansion. Considering it has an existing parallel runway already in existence, it would be more cost effective than let's say reclaiming more land at Sangley Airbase in Cavite, I don't think it has something to do with beaurocracy or anything.
As far as having more international carriers in MCIA, it's mostly the proven marketabilty and profitability would dictate these along with the fact that the Philippines in general has really not achieved that status of being a lucrative destination to tourists and investors, because of what we have discussed in another thread before. It's the over all impression of the country, policies regarding foreign ownership and investments, safety/insurgency issues, global technology competitiveness and lastly, the Philippines has not yet penetrated that tourism mecca status completely yet since Thailand and Indonesia, even malaysia not to mention Singapore, HK, Macau etc are the key players for these in the tourism arena, I know Cebu has alot to offer but that's what happen sometimes if one is considered "new kid on the block" when it comes to tourism. You simply can't just ask an airline company to serve CEB as one of their destinations, they do their own company wide research on these so Cebu would really have to sell and compete with other neighboring asian countries. PAL would have been the first one who would grab that first opportunity if for instance there is a big market for direct Cebu North American destination since I believe the US granted them that right even before the Cat 2 was layed down on the Philippines 3 years or so ago.
litigs October 27th, 2011, 01:12 AM huh?naa na diay direct flights ang qantas sa cebu?hmmmm..ngita tag qantas flight pauli beh..hehehehe :P ooopss..QATAR airways diay..hahaha..karon rako kabantay sa ilang font style sa Q..lahi pud ug color ang qantas..tsk tsk
A lot of passengers now connect via Cebu in their international flights because there is less agony at the terminal as compared to NAIA.
mwg12a October 27th, 2011, 02:22 AM ^^ Perhaps due to a big market for Qatar Airways there in Cebu because of a sizeable number ofOFWs working in the middleast or in Qatar itself which is good.
jochval October 27th, 2011, 02:30 AM Inaugural
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the first time i saw this plane taking off, i said Wow, its very big...
vicven2 October 27th, 2011, 03:27 AM Inaugural
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Qatar is catered by CebuPacific Catering. But I can't recall any recent cebupacific flight I took that had any decent food. Do they cater to their own Flights? :D
ydderf101 October 27th, 2011, 06:39 AM Inaugural? I thought Qatar has been flying to Cebu for a long while already?
My sister and her family took a vacation here in cebu last september from norway and boarded qatar airways via copenhagen-doha-cebu and v.v.. She never used naia everytime she went home. From norway they can board a plane also thru cathay pacific, singapore airways.
mwg12a October 27th, 2011, 07:19 AM My sister and her family took a vacation here in cebu last september from norway and boarded qatar airways via copenhagen-doha-cebu and v.v.. She never used naia everytime she went home. From norway they can board a plane also thru cathay pacific, singapore airways.
Yeah, I always knew there is Qatar Airways in MCIA, i just curious why there was a note "Inaugural" along with a picture of Atiatihan dancer at the tarmac. I've flawn to Cebu via HK through Cathay Pacific before while my inlaws have tried Korean Air to Cebu Via Icheon. I'm pretty sure you can go to europe directly from Cebu via Cathay and Singapore airways as well. How I would love to see Emirates or Ethiad atleast to serve Cebu as well.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 27th, 2011, 10:10 AM ^^
i really love EMIRATES in MCIA!!! :okay:
vanillasky17 October 27th, 2011, 10:41 AM Yeah, I always knew there is Qatar Airways in MCIA, i just curious why there was a note "Inaugural" along with a picture of Atiatihan dancer at the tarmac. I've flawn to Cebu via HK through Cathay Pacific before while my inlaws have tried Korean Air to Cebu Via Icheon. I'm pretty sure you can go to europe directly from Cebu via Cathay and Singapore airways as well. How I would love to see Emirates or Ethiad atleast to serve Cebu as well.
wen we disembark from a flight from manila which we don't use bay and walk to arrival thru this front of Qatar a/c, i was curious why there are ati-atihan dancer and wen i ask a mcia staff, he told me that its the inaugural flight of Qatar,
mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 27th, 2011, 10:58 AM ^^ when was that? Ati-Atihan? that would be weird esp. if your in Cebu. That should have been Sinulog Dancers. :)
calbayognon October 27th, 2011, 01:00 PM Inaugural
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Kelan ba ang pictures na 'to? FYI, QATAR Airways has been flying to CEBU for more than 5 years already, and take note it's not chartered but on REGULAR scheduled flights. Baka naman may delegates lang na VIP na pasahero from Europe na sakay sa flight na yan so they have to greet them with fanfare OR the pictures were taken years back during the inaugural flight.
vanillasky17 October 27th, 2011, 02:34 PM Kelan ba ang pictures na 'to? FYI, QATAR Airways has been flying to CEBU for more than 5 years already, and take note it's not chartered but on REGULAR scheduled flights. Baka naman may delegates lang na VIP na pasahero from Europe na sakay sa flight na yan so they have to greet them with fanfare OR the pictures were taken years back during the inaugural flight.
this shot was taken i think last month or later, i forgot the exact date, i have to check my ticket... i don't have any idea if qatar has benn flying to cebu before since im not an international traveller, if meron delegates na pasahero, kelangan ba talaga ng mga ambulance and firetrucks in front of the a/c to greet them?
maybe im wrong but i only write here what the mcia personnel says...
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