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BULLDOG February 4th, 2009, 06:46 PM Expansion of MCIA is realy in need at the soonest possible time coz the number of flights everyday is increasing. However, I also in favor of privatization kay para mas dali ang implementation if ever there is demand. The potential is very high to look for private companies to operate because obviously MCIA is one of busiest airport after NAIA.
majaba February 4th, 2009, 10:20 PM if they ever privatise this airport it would definately benifit their completely outdated website. (manila´s airport website isn´t even working)....
some forumer mentioned it before, government websites are terribly old and full of wrong spelling. even the airlines are spelled wrong.
i wonder who´s in charge of that?
not a good picture for tourists checking their flights prior departure back home.
cyjeren February 5th, 2009, 12:08 AM Thanks Bai, for bringing this up...I hope MCIA will immediately address to your concerns...Sinulog is coming up, and a lot of visitors will be coming to Cebu via MCIA...MCIA maybe old, but it should not be an excuse for having a squeaky baggage carousel and for other issues.
Tag-10 pesos ra gud nang usa ka lapad nga edible oil pang lubricate sa mechanical parts anang carousel.
bitaw bai sakto jud ka, pwede rapod kanang used oil lang gud, kanang prenitohan sa bulad, hehehe but to be serious annoying gyud ang mga porters ug ang mga barkers
kiretoce February 5th, 2009, 08:28 AM ^^ Please refrain from using your local vernacular when you're in the national threads.
Hiroshima February 7th, 2009, 08:15 AM I think one initiative that we could do is to send a 'text comment' to our local dailies about this. Sunstar have this small section where the public can text their concerns. I'm sure Cebu Daily News and The Freeman have that also.
Sorry i don't have the phone numbers. ot...I've been wanting to also send a text comment about the very BAD! and SLOW service of CD-R King.
BULLDOG February 7th, 2009, 04:00 PM Talking about dead/useless website, MCIA is one of those tungod kay ang tanang information nga imong makuha puro dugay nang panahon.......way kwenta! harharhar!
mwg12a February 7th, 2009, 05:55 PM ^^^ I think even NAIA website sux...So far, I think the only websites in the Philippines you really can find something up to date would be CEbu Pacific's and some with PAL. That's really sad really because everything here all over the world, people rely on internet if they needed to find out something especially if someone is planning a trip overseas...
majaba February 8th, 2009, 09:36 AM very true mwg.
the gradual idea about websites on the web is to keep updated.
that is one of the max factors to cebu pacific´s success.
sloid February 9th, 2009, 04:38 AM Ugh, I hope something bad happens to this airport so they'll be forced to build a new one :colgate: LOL.
Keeding. But I really hope Cebu gets a better, fresher, newer, modern terminal soon. World-class city needs a world-class airport
Sleepwalker February 9th, 2009, 04:42 AM Ugh, I hope something bad happens to this airport so they'll be forced to build a new one :colgate: LOL.
Keeding. But I really hope Cebu gets a better, fresher, newer, modern terminal soon. World-class city needs a world-class airport
Hehehehhehe...With this very very passive government agencies we have, understandable lang yang wish mo...Hehehehehe
Bored na ako sa kahihintay nang expansion...:ohno:
kiretoce February 9th, 2009, 04:57 AM ^^ Is there a possibility of building a totally new airport for Cebu, just like what Bacolod and Iloilo did? Has the city's urban sprawl completely used up all the land that would otherwise be used for a new airport should the need arise?
mwg12a February 9th, 2009, 05:33 AM I think from the pictures they posted in the past. That area alone is enough to build terminal 2 for MCIA. I don't know IMO, there is enough space for it, especially since they are planning on transfering that airbase elsewhere in the same vicinity.. I could be wrong though, I thought I read it here somewhere long time ago.... who knows?
Sleepwalker February 9th, 2009, 05:35 AM If there is a will, there is a way... :)
kiretoce February 9th, 2009, 05:43 AM I didn't mean another terminal on the same site. But a whole completely new airport elsewhere in the city or in the neighboring towns of Cebu.
mwg12a February 9th, 2009, 05:46 AM oh............ dunno about that, there rest of the cebu island has the resorts and such especially mactan island, the main island of Cebu is very hilly....
Sleepwalker February 9th, 2009, 05:54 AM In northern part of Cebu province, the town of Medellin is a perfect place for another airport for Cebu...But it is going to be a bit far from Metro Cebu...Maybe a 2 to 3 hours drive.
mwg12a February 9th, 2009, 06:10 AM Oh yeah, that would be definitely far, it's like Manila and Clark... but then I guess if there is a good highway to and from Madellin it would lessen the travel time doesn't it? That's gonna be a very huge project for sure....
bOrN2BwILd February 9th, 2009, 06:21 AM i think it's a good one...just like in some other parts of the world...
the airports are far from the city center...
besides, cebu province had already started the north coastal road project..
so it would even lessen the number of hours from medellin to the city proper..
mwg12a February 9th, 2009, 06:46 AM That's a good news. Hopefully they would really build a real good expressway.
The Cebuano Exultor February 9th, 2009, 04:09 PM ^^ Aw guys, you can't be serious with that proposal!
Having airports that are far from the city center is quite advantageous because it gets rid of the problem of noise pollution. It also allows an airport to acquire a much larger land area for expansion. But considering that Medellin is like 80-90 kilometers north of Downtown Cebu, that would make it unviable as an alternative airport site.
I mean, the reasonable distance between the city center and the airport should be between 15-35 kilometers. Anything beyond that is, simply, impractical.
Case in point: Tokyo-Narita International Airport
Metro: Greater Tokyo Area
Airport - City Center Distance: 67 kilometers
Transport Links: one expressway and two railway lines
Consensus: Despite excellent transport links (i.e., highspeed rail links), it still takes a minimum of one-and-a-half hours to reach Downtown Tokyo. Because of this, local Japanese businessmen avoid Tokyo-Narita at all cost. Because of this, Tokyo-Haneda International Airport is increasingly taking an active role in accomodating more international-bound air traffic as it is overwhelmingly preferred over Tokyo-Narita International Airport.
mwg12a February 9th, 2009, 11:54 PM I'm just thinking of any possible options. Ofcourse I'm not an expert to it plus the fact that I haven't been anywhere else in Cebu aside from Mactan and Cebu City. I was thinking it's all mountainous in the main island of Cebu so it would be hard to build a new terminal building there. I think the current location one is good enough and if there is a need for further expansion and especially a secondary runway. They can reclaim a land where they can build atleast the runway and make use of the current property for the new terminal building or expansion. It's gonna be like in Macau where the runway is like sitting in an ocean, there would be a span that would connect the taxiway. That area at the end of the current runway where there is a road, they can build a bridge of some sort for the aircraft and under would be a tunnel where motor vehicles can pass through. (that would be nice to drive through it even because you would see the passing aircraft on top of it)
But, if you say 80 to 90 kilometers, I'm assuming it's around 30 miles. With a very good road, or highway, it would only take 30 mins from the City of cebu. I know if you drive 60 miles an hour, 60 miles is equivalent to 1 hour (60 mins) so, if that's the case. 30 to 40 miles is would only take 30 to 40 mins non stop via private car, I'm sure public transport would take atleast 30 mins longer. A highway similar to NLEX and SLEX in Luzon would get you to Medelin in no time. It would also pave way to further economic and infrustructure development along its way to Medellin. I don't know I was just assessing it based on that 90 KL long which is almost equivalent to 30 to 40 miles here in the US. ( I know drivers would have fun driving in a 120 km/hr max speed of driving in a highway, that's the same max speed limit in Canada, 70m/80m per hour in the US he he he)
I think it's Tokyo proper is what would take most of the traveling time being in a city cuz you would also deal with traffic there but once you are in a highway with a smooth running traffic, it will take you in Tokyo airport quicker. Trains stops alot too especially in tokyo proper.
swahi February 10th, 2009, 02:03 AM That's 80kms north from metro cebu. How about if you come from SOUTH of cebu?? Mactan is ideal. Close, centralized, what noise pollution? It is expected that an airport will have noise pollution. At one end, its the open sea, thus very ideal. That open sea area is very shallow, and in fact at low tide, the bottom is exposed. So its easy to reclaim. Its also relatively cheap to reclaim as reclaimed land goes. The popular mactan stone? Mactan's soil IS stone.
Sleepwalker February 10th, 2009, 02:57 AM Indeed, Medellin is not a good option as an extension or replacement for MCIAA.
majaba February 10th, 2009, 08:49 AM i wonder why you guys are so keen on building a new airport. mactan has room for a lot of expansion. a second runway will only be needed after 30 million passengers are counted (check passenger numbers at gatwick/london or other dense airports with only one runway). modern technics allow a lot of expansion for traffic to a one runway layout nowadays. it´s a matter of technics, no more.
and also take a close look at the apron next to the control tower. it even is larger than the one afront the terminal.
absolutely no need for a complete new airport. take half the money and build a big decent terminal, connect it to the existing one, take the other half of the money and build another (really beautiful) bridge connecting to SRP direction south of cebu, now that construction will commence there and then you have a decent solution for the next 10 years and beyond.
the main aspect is to build it NOW and not when again, as so often, when traffic is much too congested.
sounds reasonable, doesn´t it ?
best regards from M.
mwg12a February 10th, 2009, 08:55 AM Was just a question by kiretoce if there is a posibility.. I don't think they are really hoping to have another airport be built elsewhere in Cebu...
Everybody knows there is alot of room for expansion in the current airport. Most are really just hoping to have the airport expanded atleast if they can't build T2 yet, but, T2 is definitely is definitely being considered for the future.
habagatcentral1 February 10th, 2009, 09:27 AM Was it because of the building restrictions over Cebu City? I mean the building height restrictions especially that of SRP?
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 10th, 2009, 10:04 AM like I read from a community newspaper here that mactan is planning to reclaim land. I hope they'd gonna use it to build an entirely NEW airport rather than building another terminal building out from the existing one. uhm, what do you think? hehehe...:lol::lol:
lochinvar February 10th, 2009, 12:08 PM Man, Lapu-Lapu would have been cringing in his grave to learn countless foreigners are coming to his island. Magellan with his armor was enough, but thousands even without armor are too much for him. :lol: :lol:
The Cebuano Exultor February 10th, 2009, 03:34 PM But, if you say 80 to 90 kilometers, I'm assuming it's around 30 miles. With a very good road, or highway, it would only take 30 mins from the City of cebu. I know if you drive 60 miles an hour, 60 miles is equivalent to 1 hour (60 mins) so, if that's the case. 30 to 40 miles is would only take 30 to 40 mins non stop via private car, I'm sure public transport would take atleast 30 mins longer. A highway similar to NLEX and SLEX in Luzon would get you to Medelin in no time.
^^ Eighty kilometers is, roughly, equivalent to fifty miles.
It would also pave way to further economic and infrustructure development along its way to Medellin. I don't know I was just assessing it based on that 90 KL long which is almost equivalent to 30 to 40 miles here in the US. ( I know drivers would have fun driving in a 120 km/hr max speed of driving in a highway, that's the same max speed limit in Canada, 70m/80m per hour in the US he he he)
^^ Construction of highways encourage sprawl. Sprawl translates to bad urban planning. Density is the way to go, especially in this ever warming planet.
I think it's Tokyo proper is what would take most of the traveling time being in a city cuz you would also deal with traffic there but once you are in a highway with a smooth running traffic, it will take you in Tokyo airport quicker. Trains stops alot too especially in tokyo proper.
^^ The Narita Express (train) still takes, roughly, one hour and a half to make the one-way trip.
mwg12a February 10th, 2009, 05:36 PM ^^^ funny is when I claimed 30 to 40 miles, I looked at my odometer that has both kilometers and miles reading. 35m is equivalent to 60klm and 75miles is equivalent to 120klm. I don't know if that's a dumb thing to do but I kind of based it there only. he he
I don't know i always made to think that better roads such as good higway helps economically because it can transport goods easier and faster. So I believe that unless the governement allowed a bad planning, it will turn out to be bad...
But, I wasn't really pushing for that medellin, I don't even know how far it was really and can't tell without looking at maps to find out what sort of plain and terrains we are looking into. But, again, i'm not an engineer and I am not an expert to this.
like I read from a community newspaper here that mactan is planning to reclaim land. I hope they'd gonna use it to build an entirely NEW airport rather than building another terminal building out from the existing one. uhm, what do you think? hehehe...:lol::lol:
I think there was someone who posted an article about that awhile back. I don't think it's a bad idea and MCIA does need a new and bigger terminal even if it only be around the size of the new Kota Kinabulu International Airport which I happen to like also because it looks beautiful IMO.
federalist February 10th, 2009, 08:06 PM excuse me pipol, Medellin to Cebu City is more or less 120 kilometers. Cebu City to Bogo is already 100 kilometers plus from Bogo to Medellin.
flesh_is_weak February 10th, 2009, 11:28 PM i'm not an expert of Cebu Island's topography, especially that of the western seaboard...but i was wondering, do we have some flat land over there to accomodate a new airport? after all, Bantayan is just 30-40 kilometers from Cebu City...build a highway and a train that passes through a series of tunnels, and voila! a perfect gateway for Metro Cebu--and a precursor for development in the west (that should discourage the local politicians from thinking of 'secession' again :lol:) but then again, the question of availability of flat land is all that there is to it...although building an artificial island couldn't be too hard, right?
and then again, there's Bohol, with it's wealth of wide, empty spaces...throw in a bridge, and that's all we'll need...
swahi February 11th, 2009, 02:03 AM 40 km north of cebu is danao, 40 km south of cebu is carcar, both are not even halfway to each end of cebu. And bantayan is an island after the northernmost tip of cebu.
Sleepwalker February 11th, 2009, 03:40 AM Both Bantayan Island and Medellin are far enough not to be considered as an option, for now.
I am thinking of Toledo or Balamban.
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 04:13 AM i'm not an expert of Cebu Island's topography, especially that of the western seaboard...but i was wondering, do we have some flat land over there to accomodate a new airport? after all, Bantayan is just 30-40 kilometers from Cebu City...build a highway and a train that passes through a series of tunnels, and voila! a perfect gateway for Metro Cebu--and a precursor for development in the west (that should discourage the local politicians from thinking of 'secession' again :lol:) but then again, the question of availability of flat land is all that there is to it...although building an artificial island couldn't be too hard, right?
^^ As federalist clarified, Medellin is already 120 kilometers north of Downtown Cebu. Now Daan Bantayan is even further north than Medellin. The Bantayan Islands are further yet than, even, Daan Bantayan (You'd have to cross a strait!). Go figure.
If you meant to say Balamban instead of Bantayan, then yes its just 30-40 kilometers away. But that is still unacceptably far from the city center. It's distance renders the construction of an airport over there prohibitably expensive (taking into account the cost of building transportation links across rugged mountainous terrain). And about your proposed airport on reclaimed land, why not do this in our side of the island? Why not build it in those shallow marshlands of Cordova?
Let development be dense and concentrated in one spot of the island. Spreading developments across the island is uneconomical, impractical, inefficient, ineffective, and unenvironmental.
and then again, there's Bohol, with it's wealth of wide, empty spaces...throw in a bridge, and that's all we'll need...
^^ That's being naive as fuck. No sane urban planner would want to do this. Are you fuckin' serious?! I mean, what's the point in placing airports so far from the city center?! And the cost of building such an ego-boosting vanity project is astronomical!
arianespace February 11th, 2009, 04:20 AM Teasers...
Another mid east carrier is applying for Cebu for 3x weekly freq. Be my guest to guess!
ivanc February 11th, 2009, 04:37 AM for me, mactan is very okay.. why replace or move the airport?
if i'm a businessman, i'd like to get to the business site ASAP... MCIA is only approx 30mins away from the city
if i were the tourists, i'd like that the sooner i get out of the plane, the sooner i'd be able to go to the beach, or shopping,
just because its the trend elsewhere it doesnt necessarily mean that we should follow it.
mactan is already a good location...
but thats just my opinion
mwg12a February 11th, 2009, 04:45 AM ^^^ no one is really suggesting to move. Someone did ask if there is another area in Cebu that the authorities can build a new airport IF worse comes to worse, so, some of the forummers just pointed out other places in Cebu.
Teasers...
Another mid east carrier is applying for Cebu for 3x weekly freq. Be my guest to guess!
I'm guessing Ethiad? i've got a cousin who flew with Ethiad, He said the service is excellent.. especially business class.. lucky bas***** ! He has a good company...
^^
^^ That's being naive as fuck. No sane urban planner would want to do this. Are you fuckin' serious?! I mean, what's the point in placing airports so far from the city center?! And the cost of building such an ego-boosting vanity project is astronomical!
MAn!! you got me laughing hard on this one.. I mean no offense to flesh, it's just the way you phrased it is so f**** hillarious....
But, you've got a lot of good points there buddy. It made sense especially on the ecosystem part earlier...
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 06:19 AM Teasers...
Another mid east carrier is applying for Cebu for 3x weekly freq. Be my guest to guess!
^^ The other uber-carrier from the Middle East, Emirates, is the most probable one that'd fly to Cebu, given that it has tons of new aircraft coming into service this year (Which means that they'd need to add more routes to its network.).
But, I sure hope it'd be Abu Dhabi's Etihad Airways. I mean, yeah, it is smaller than Emirates, but its service is just a tad shy of that of Singapore Airlines. And that's saying a lot about a very young airline. Furthermore, Etihad's new first class seats puts Emirates to shame. Moreover, Etihad's service is more consistent in maintaining their brand of service and hospitality flight-after-flight, according to numerous reviews from both airlines' frequent flyers. Lastly, an Etihad service would connect Cebu with Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi, IMHO, is far superior to Dubai in aesthetics, urban planning, and wealth. And with the current global slowdown, it seems like Dubai's era of gluttonous obsession for wacked-out vanity projects has come to an aweful end.
I wouldn't count on a return by Gulf Air. Its fast loosing market share and its service and amenities are sub-par to both Emirates and Etihad Airways. Its got the best livery though. :D
mwg12a February 11th, 2009, 06:30 AM Oh really? I guess my cousin was right about his claim on Ethiad's service.
You're right about Gulf Air, I wouldn't count on it either.
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 06:40 AM ^^ Yep. :yes: Etihad Airways is way younger than Emirates. This gives it the advantage of having a younger and more modern fleet. This allows almost all of their aircraft to have more up-to-date amenities than a lot of Emirates' aircraft.
kiretoce February 11th, 2009, 07:24 AM Eighty kilometers is, roughly, equivalent to fifty miles.
Fifty miles isn't so bad, that's about an hour's drive at roughly 60mph under good traffic conditions. But then, of course, I live in a place wherein we have efficient highways that connects the city center with the outlying locales, like our airport.
Anyway, I'm amused that my simple and nondescript question about relocating Cebu's airport has sparked some intellectual and informative (while others, grandiose) exchanges. :okay:
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 07:52 AM ^^ Make that 75 miles or 120 kilometers, instead of just 50 miles or 80 kilometers...
Assuming that the drive from the city center to the airport would be at a continuous or unhindered 60 m/h, it'd take 1 hour and 25 minutes. That's not encouraging, IMHO. And, of course, travelling continuously at 60 m/h for the entire trip just isn't possible in the real world because you have to take into account the initial acceleration and final deceleration as well as the decelerations involved in lane transfers and the stops at the tolls gate. All in all, it might take almost two hours for a one-way trip from the city to the airport or vice versa. And that's even less encouraging.
kiretoce February 11th, 2009, 08:01 AM ^^ People here have traveled more than 75 miles just to get to the airport. It's far from inconvenient or a burden, sometimes an hour, or an hour and half drive just passes so quickly, you'll hardly even notice it. Of course, if you're late and rushing, then you'll be pressed for time to arrive at the airport to check-in and catch your flight. That would be the person's fault for not planning ahead.
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 09:09 AM ^^ People here have traveled more than 75 miles just to get to the airport. It's far from inconvenient or a burden, sometimes an hour, or an hour and half drive just passes so quickly, you'll hardly even notice it.
^^ I'm assuming that these are people living in small towns who have to drive to the nearest regional air hub.
But we should put this in an urbanite's context as the majority of Cebu's air passengers are time-conscious urbanites. The further the airport from the city center, the more inconvenient it becomes for jet-setting businessmen. Two hour commutes to the airport just isn't a practical option for those people who are constantly on the go. The inconvenience would be more apparent for international-bound passengers as they are required to be at the airport two hours ahead of their boarding time. I mean, imagine having to wake-up at 2:30 a.m. just so you can catch a flight to Hong Kong that departs at 7:00 a.m. That would be a nightmare, IMHO.
In addition, having distant airports discourages transit passengers from availing of quick city tours. Transit hubs like Singapore, Frankfurt, and Hong Kong are benefitting from this type of mass tourism.
mwg12a February 11th, 2009, 09:23 AM but isn't it thats the whole purpose of a good highway? An express way like SLEX or NLEX that is similar to US interstate lessens the travel time, so an 80 kilometers long stretch is nothing... it's less than an hour because that's just 80 kilometers is around 45 to 50 miles. I know for sure that 60klm is equivalent to 35 miles which is if driven 60 miles an hour in an expressway or interstate, that's only 30 minsor so. There is no need to stop because a highway can't be congested with passenger vehicles that picks up passengers along it's stretch, it's fenced, buses, jeepneys and cars has to exit when they need to stop. I think thats what kiretoce has in mind and that's what I also see....
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 09:28 AM ^^ I know what an expressway looks like. And I know how it operates.
But your assumption is too naive, IMHO. That's like assuming that the expressway is right in front of your residence/office or something. You haven't taken into account the time it takes for you to reach the airport expressway from your residence/office. You haven't taken into account the possibility of changing lanes while in the expressway (which causes a bit of deceleration) nor have you taken into account the time it takes for one toll gate stop. The best way to avoid these stops is to stick a Smart Tag/Card into your car. And that is assuming that a Smart Tag/Card system is also put in place. You haven't taken ino consideration the tendency for deceleration while traversing the numerous interchanges nor the possibility for slow moving traffic in the expressway's downtown section.
If all of these are added-up, it might add 15-30 minutes to your trip.
lochinvar February 11th, 2009, 09:30 AM "I know for sure that 60klm is equivalent to 35 miles which is if driven 60 miles an hour in an expressway or interstate, that's only 30 minsor so."
I hope you're not talking of Dan Ryan of Chicago, 405, 5 and 110 of L.A. and BQE of New York.
kiretoce February 11th, 2009, 09:33 AM Again, that's assuming that you don't change lanes, don't have to stop for the tolls (as is possible with a wide-use of the Smart Tag/Card system), initial acceleration, and final deceleration.
There's a reason they're called "Freeways" here, being that you don't pay tolls to use them, therefore you don't stop. And as far as the acceleration and deceleration of a moving vehicle, they don't take much time either.
mwg12a February 11th, 2009, 09:35 AM ^^ Again, that's assuming that you don't change lanes, don't have to stop for the tolls (as is possible with a wide-use of the Smart Tag/Card system), initial acceleration, and final deceleration.
Well, you know the whole area by heart I'm sure, I'm just kind of comparing it to the distance I use to drive everyday last year for work. I live in Springfield and has to drive 62 miles one way to Mt Grove Mo. I can get to my destination in an hour exactly driving at 70 to 80 miles an hour. Speed limit is 65 miles an hour here so that's how I envisioned everything. It might be what Kiretoce is seing since he lives down in Orlando.
kiretoce February 11th, 2009, 09:49 AM I'm assuming that these are people living in small towns who have to drive to the nearest regional air hub.
I live in Central Florida, and we have two metropolitan airports (MCO and TPA) that are roughly 80 miles apart from each other to serve the region. And the towns in between them are hardly what you categorize as small.
The inconvenience would be more apparent for international-bound passengers as they are required to be at the airport two hours ahead of their boarding time. I mean, imagine having to wake-up at 2:30 a.m. just so you can catch a flight to Hong Kong that departs at 7:00 a.m. That would be a nightmare, IMHO.
Once again, I reiterate that the fault lies on the passenger for not gauging the time needed to be at the airport to catch their flights. Passengers don't dictate the airlines' schedule. If you already know that you have a early morning flight, why not prepare early and leave early? Simple as that.
In addition, having distant airports discourages transit passengers from availing of quick city tours. Transit hubs like Singapore, Frankfurt, and Hong Kong are benefitting from this type of mass tourism.
With the exception of FRA; SIN and HKG are city-states, they can afford to promote city tours from their airports since everything is concentrated and compact into one place. No long journeys to and from some tourist attraction or destination.
Henz February 11th, 2009, 09:53 AM i guess.. no need to transfer the airport in Cebu, just like Bacolod, Iloilo, Cagayan etc.. Cebu Airport is still the one of the best airport in the country, although our Terminal while is still usable pa naman. It still smacks of modern yet cebuano feel. While i love the design of the Naia3, Iloilo, Davao Terminals, i guess we can always apply for a fresh architectural design which is akin to the Cebuano culture.
Henz February 11th, 2009, 10:11 AM Well, sometimes when things get out of hand, things can take over your whole being. In that case, it's their heated arguement failed the security guard to lose his temper and his judgement was impaired. Had there have been a back up in the first place, it would have been prevented. I guess, that is where the authorities needs to enfrorce a new law or policy. But then again, I can understand why there was no back up, the security officer was trying to stop the victiim from loading and unloading passengers, it's just a simple traffic violation by a vehicle owner who happens to be operating illegally or a "colorum" ....
Anyway, are there any latest news for the expansion of MCIA? I mean as far as actually executing the plan, not just "all talks"??LOL
although not a good attitude, but i would say.. good for that dispatcher.. they are actually such a mess in the airport.. at least he could do his work somewhere else.. my bad..
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 10:16 AM There's a reason they're called "Freeways" here, being that you don't pay tolls to use them, therefore you don't stop.
^^ If Cebu's gonna build a highway they won't initially be freeways. They still have to be tolled for quite some time to earn enough for the project to be profitable. That's what most European and Asian countries are doing. And that is also the biggest reason why most European and Asian highways are better maintained than American ones. I mean, there are tons of ugly American interstate. Compare them with those shiny German autobahns or Japanese highways and you'd get the picture.
About the acceleration and deceleration thing, I'm just saying 'cause a supposed 100% continuous or unhindered 60 m/h velocity for the entire duration of the commute is impossible in the real world.
And the towns in between them are hardly what you categorize as small.
^^ The point is, Cebu is definitely poised to be a minor regional hub the likes of Kota Kinabalu, Penang, Surabaya, Bandung, and Denpansar. It is only of Cebu's best interest that the airport be much closer to the urban area because this set-up would be far more beneficial for Cebu than an airport at Medellin.
BTW, what airport is coded as MCO?
Once again, I reiterate that the fault lies on the passenger for not gauging the time needed to be at the airport to catch their flights. Passengers don't dictate the airlines' schedule. If you already know that you have a early morning flight, why not prepare early and leave early? Simple as that.
^^ To hell with those late and irresponsible air passengers, they deserve it! :D All I'm saying is that a shorter commute is less burdensome than a longer one.
With the exception of FRA; SIN and HKG are city-states, they can afford to promote city tours from their airports since everything is concentrated and compact into one place. No long journeys to and from some tourist attraction or destination.
^^ Which is exactly what Cebu should be rooting-at given that it is similarly small and compact as Hong Kong and Singapore.
mwg12a February 11th, 2009, 10:41 AM MCO is Orlando International Airport Cebu Excultor.
The Cebuano Exultor February 11th, 2009, 12:11 PM ^^ Ah, I see. So, that means that kiretoce lives around the Orlando-Tampa Metroplex.
flesh_is_weak February 13th, 2009, 01:46 AM oh sh*t i just proved my statement about my ignorance of Cebu's western towns...yes, I had Balamban in mind :lol:
regarding Cordova, a trip down the archives could actually yield a post about a 'proposal' of mine about an airport the size of YVR (basically because I lifted YVR's satellite image from google earth and pasted it over Cordova's mangrove 'forests')
mwg12a February 13th, 2009, 04:44 AM I keep on trying to see the whole Cebu Island at googles, the only visible city and town I can see it Cebu city and portion of Mactan Island. (atleast in my PC) I wonder if you guys can visibly get whatever town you wanted to see there easily. I guess that Balamban is to east of the island across Cebu City
Sleepwalker February 13th, 2009, 09:01 AM Balamban is the next town from Cebu City to the west.
South of Cebu City is Talisay City
North of Cebu City is Mandaue City
East of Cebu City is the town of Cordova (Mactan Island).
mwg12a February 13th, 2009, 06:15 PM Oh thanks for correcting me, I guess it is west not east.
Still no news about the expansion and transfering of the offices down to that building they put on hold for the time being?
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 14th, 2009, 10:35 AM Balamban is north of Toledo City and west of Cebu City.
Balamban Map
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Ph_locator_cebu_balamban.png
Toledo City Map
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Ph_locator_cebu_toledo.png
Cebu City Map
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Ph_locator_cebu_cebu.png
chevy_boy February 14th, 2009, 03:58 PM Cebu Pacific will be flying daily between Cebu and Hong Kong by March... 5x weekly departing at 5pm and 2x weekly with the current schedule.
Cebu Pacific will suspend Davao - Hong Kong and Davao - Singapore flights by April.
bOrN2BwILd February 15th, 2009, 03:42 AM ^^how about the cebu-singapore?
shyaman February 15th, 2009, 01:00 PM Mactan-Cebu International Airport
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0088a.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0097a.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0094a.jpg
Baggage claim hall
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0111a.jpg
calbayognon February 15th, 2009, 03:42 PM I arrived last Friday around 7:30 P.M. from Manila via Zest Air's A-320. We were not able to use the tubes 'coz all of it were occupied. On the first tube was Cathay Pacific B-777, 2nd tube was Mandarin Airlines ERJ 190, 3rd tube PAL's A-330 and on the fourth tube was another PAL A-320. On the apron were two Cebu Pacific's A-320 and Zest Air's A-320. I think MCIA should expand ASAP grabe ang inconvenience considering that it was raining that time.
bakasaurus February 15th, 2009, 03:54 PM I arrived last Friday around 7:30 P.M. from Manila via Zest Air's A-320. We were not able to use the tubes 'coz all of it were occupied. On the first tube was Cathay Pacific B-777, 2nd tube was Mandarin Airlines ERJ 190, 3rd tube PAL's A-330 and on the fourth tube was another PAL A-320. On the apron were two Cebu Pacific's A-320 and Zest Air's A-320. I think MCIA should expand ASAP grabe ang inconvenience considering that it was raining that time.
I strongly agree! It is frustrating that there seems to be no visible effort made here. The hotels are opening and Cebu is gearing up to be a major tourist hub and gateway and yet the MCIAA still seems to be asleep. A second international and modern terminal should be constructed at the soonest time. The old terminal should be used exclusively for domestic flights. There is still an extensive stretch of space for a new terminal.
Porbida kahinay aning MCIAA. Mulihok na unta ni sila oi.:bash:
diehardbisdak February 15th, 2009, 04:01 PM Cebu Pacific will suspend Davao - Hong Kong and Davao - Singapore flights by April.
why? anong reason?
majaba February 15th, 2009, 10:57 PM Mactan-Cebu International Airport
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0088a.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0097a.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0094a.jpg
Baggage claim hall
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0111a.jpg
you are a great photographer shyaman ! superb work ! keep them coming and thank you for sharing with us :banana:
majaba February 15th, 2009, 11:00 PM I arrived last Friday around 7:30 P.M. from Manila via Zest Air's A-320. We were not able to use the tubes 'coz all of it were occupied. On the first tube was Cathay Pacific B-777, 2nd tube was Mandarin Airlines ERJ 190, 3rd tube PAL's A-330 and on the fourth tube was another PAL A-320. On the apron were two Cebu Pacific's A-320 and Zest Air's A-320. I think MCIA should expand ASAP grabe ang inconvenience considering that it was raining that time.
hello calbayognon,
did you by any chance take any pictures ? surely would be great to see that busy apron (tarmac) of cebu airport. i just love images with all kinds of aircraft around. :)
xzibit31 February 16th, 2009, 03:08 AM why? anong reason?
its a seasonal route kasi. it come back after a few months.:)
chuck23 February 16th, 2009, 03:18 AM I arrived last Friday around 7:30 P.M. from Manila via Zest Air's A-320. We were not able to use the tubes 'coz all of it were occupied. On the first tube was Cathay Pacific B-777, 2nd tube was Mandarin Airlines ERJ 190, 3rd tube PAL's A-330 and on the fourth tube was another PAL A-320. On the apron were two Cebu Pacific's A-320 and Zest Air's A-320. I think MCIA should expand ASAP grabe ang inconvenience considering that it was raining that time.
...its full..wow..
Sleepwalker February 16th, 2009, 03:24 AM Mactan-Cebu International Airport
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0111a.jpg
Though the purpose of these banderitas is good but sometimes it becomes annoying. From certain distance and angle, it blocks the signages and other directional displays.
bOrN2BwILd February 16th, 2009, 03:49 AM France-Cebu flights
SHOULD there be available direct flights from France to Cebu and vice versa, the French Ambassador to the Philippines believes more French people will be coming to the province, not just as tourists but to do business as well.
French Ambassador Thierry Borja de Mozota, who was in Cebu last week, said Cebu has two main attractions that the French may be interested in—cultural and heritage attractions, and the dive spots.
He added that Cebu, being an economic hub, is also a good area for French companies to invest in.
“The spirit of creativity in Cebu is attracting the French,” he told members of the media last Saturday during a lunch hosted by French Consul Michel Lhullier at Pino Restaurant.
Cebu X exhibitor
Mozota said that at present, there is a French company at the Mactan Economic Zone that manufactures Bluetooth-capable devices. The company employs 1,000 people.
Another company is also coming to Cebu as an exhibitor in this year’s Cebu International Furniture and Furnishing Exhibition (Cebu X).
He also revealed that many small and medium entrepreneurs in France are willing to do business in Cebu. These
businessmen are involved in cultural activities and in industries related to wood design, communication, automotive, fashion accessories and mobile phones.
Mozota said Cebu can also export stingrays to France where there is a big demand for the marine creature’s skin for manufacturing bags.
The French ambassador said he will push for bilateral relations between France and Cebu Province, not just to foster economic ties but also to promote French and Cebuano cultural activities.
The ambassador said southern towns in Cebu, like Carcar, are becoming famous in France because of the presence of old churches and other heritage attractions. (DME)
source: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/france-cebu-flights
RonnieR February 16th, 2009, 07:23 AM Though the purpose of these banderitas is good but sometimes it becomes annoying. From certain distance and angle, it blocks the signages and other directional displays.
What's the purpose of those banderitas? Is it really needed by the airport? Does it enhance the look of an international airport? or parang pumangit siya, ala piyesta sa barangay.
habagatcentral1 February 16th, 2009, 07:27 AM I hope its just temporary like only during Sinulog season though.
Sleepwalker February 16th, 2009, 07:30 AM What's the purpose of those banderitas? Is it really needed by the airport? Does it enhance the look of an international airport? or parang pumangit siya, ala piyesta sa barangay.
I don't really know what is the exact reason why they are putting up banderitas in MCIA...Perhaps, to show the festive aura of Cebu?
venntro February 16th, 2009, 07:32 AM ^^ I know some foreign tourists who love to see these banderitas.
diehardbisdak February 16th, 2009, 08:13 AM What's the purpose of those banderitas? Is it really needed by the airport? Does it enhance the look of an international airport? or parang pumangit siya, ala piyesta sa barangay.
..exactly bai, that's how DOT like to promote Cebu as Fiesta Island! ...and that makes MCIA very uniquely different from the rest of the airports in the Philippines :okay:
mwg12a February 16th, 2009, 08:19 AM you are a great photographer shyaman ! superb work ! keep them coming and thank you for sharing with us :banana:
Yeah, I agree. So far, it's shyaman's photos of MCIA looks like one of the best. Maybe he does have a very nice camera and that you can considered him as a skilled photographer already since he's been doing photos on most of his escapades everywhere. Good job dude!!
Sleepwalker February 16th, 2009, 09:06 AM Perhaps MCIA can show the vibrancy of Cebu in some other way, maybe a gallery of paintings, icons or any kind of display that will show to the visitors the different colors of Cebu.
Just an IMHO..:)
RonnieR February 16th, 2009, 09:37 AM ..exactly bai, that's how DOT like to promote Cebu as Fiesta Island! ...and that makes MCIA very uniquely different from the rest of the airports in the Philippines :okay:
huh? unique? by showing banderitas? they are everywhere, from fiestas in barangays, town, and some cities....
well, perhaps you can show the uniqueness of Cebu thru paintings or murals of beaches and other beautiful spots of Cebu.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 16th, 2009, 10:04 AM ^^
well, that's the reason why others might view cebu very independent by only trying to promote itself which is not so very good. It's not really total uniqueness of what diehard meant about it rather its just how cebu represents the entire philippines as a fiesta country while also maintaining its uniquely cebuano fiesta character. :cool:
manila_eye February 16th, 2009, 03:49 PM ..exactly bai, that's how DOT like to promote Cebu as Fiesta Island! ...and that makes MCIA very uniquely different from the rest of the airports in the Philippines :okay:
i don't see anything unique about MCIA by putting banderitas.
bakasaurus February 16th, 2009, 06:44 PM i don't see anything unique about MCIA by putting banderitas.
It is unique since other airports didn't put up any. Hehe. But I hope they won't follow it though. Because its not really super nice. Haha. But I think we need not fret about it since the fiesta airport theme might be taken down soon. This was probably just in time for the Sinulog celebration, which is of course really the biggest fiesta in Cebu.:)
mwg12a February 17th, 2009, 10:45 AM i don't see anything unique about MCIA by putting banderitas.
I don't think they are trying to be unique when they put up those "banderitas" It was just a way to tell visitors especially the foreign tourists that they came in town at a perfect timing for a most celebrated festivity in Cebu, it is one of their biggest celebrations even I would want to be in during that season to actually feel the festivity and witness the one of the most elaborate parades in the Philippines. Let's not put too much meaning to those banderitas. It's infact an indicator for a celabration anywhere in the Philippines.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 17th, 2009, 01:46 PM ^^
right! :okay:
let's put it this way na lang okay, its unique because IMO, its the only airport that has "banderitas" at that point in time bec. it coincides also with cebu's biggest festivity and nothing else more. period!
ivanc February 17th, 2009, 06:44 PM Just a story:
Last Feb 6, at around 7PM while waiting for boarding sa Ceb-HK flight, nag brown out sa airport... as in total darkness for around 10 secs... paita...
Its clean, but its age is very evident na gyud.. while waiting for 1+ hours, I was jsut staring at the interiors, thinking of ways to improve/re-energize the terminal.... one idea I can give is to overhaul the glass windows... right now, there are metal bars/window frames in between, maybe they can change it to full length/floor-to-ceiling single glass (like the malls)... it would increase significantly the "open-ness" feeling of the terminal. my opinion.
majaba February 17th, 2009, 10:40 PM Just a story:
Last Feb 6, at around 7PM while waiting for boarding sa Ceb-HK flight, nag brown out sa airport... as in total darkness for around 10 secs... paita...
Its clean, but its age is very evident na gyud.. while waiting for 1+ hours, I was jsut staring at the interiors, thinking of ways to improve/re-energize the terminal.... one idea I can give is to overhaul the glass windows... right now, there are metal bars/window frames in between, maybe they can change it to full length/floor-to-ceiling single glass (like the malls)... it would increase significantly the "open-ness" feeling of the terminal. my opinion.
good idea ivanc, sometimes i wish philippine nation builders would read these forums !
venntro February 18th, 2009, 04:09 AM RP, Kuwait agree on more flights (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/149266/RP-Kuwait-agree-on-more-flights)
02/18/2009 | 04:02 AM
MANILA, Philippines - Local carriers can now mount more flights to Kuwait with the conclusion of air talks between the Philippines and the oil-rich Arab emirate.
From only six, the Philippines is now entitled to 29 weekly flights to Kuwait.
The additional 23 entitlements were approved Tuesday afternoon, said Porvenir P. Porciuncula, deputy executive director of the Civil Aeronautics Board.
The 29 flights are divided as follows: Manila, eight flights; Subic, 14; and Cebu, Davao and other airports, seven.
A fifth freedom right was also given to flights from Clark, allowing carriers to pick up a passenger from Kuwait before flying to another destination in a third country.
The Philippine negotiating panel was headed by the acting board chairman, Doroteo A. Reyes.
The Civil Aeronautics Board is scheduled to start air talks with Bahrain, Brunei, and Australia this year. The government has been going after flight entitlements to several countries to address an expected increase in air travel.
Mr. Porciuncula downplayed any potential hesitation local carriers may have in competing with Middle Eastern airlines — which have access to cheaper fuel — noting that fuel costs have dipped.
Lance Y. Gokongwei, president of Cebu Pacific, said the low-cost carrier is considering flights to Kuwait.
"We are always looking at possible route network expansion and we are studying the possibility of mounting flights to Kuwait," Mr. Gokongwei said.
Officials of Philippine Airlines were not available for comment. - BusinessWorld
c0kelitr0 February 18th, 2009, 04:09 AM i do agree that MCIA needs some makeover. this is the country's second most important gateway, dapat lang talaga pagandahin and palawakin.
kiretoce February 19th, 2009, 05:12 AM Mactan-Cebu International Airport Baggage Claim Hall
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2028/DSC_0111a.jpg
One word: TACKY! :ohno:
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 19th, 2009, 12:28 PM ^^
i hate the ceiling. :nuts:
habagatcentral1 February 19th, 2009, 12:31 PM ^^ I hate that part right there...:nuts: :lol: I feel cluttered with the arrival area but...my fave part in MCIA would always be the pre-departure area....I could get the view of airplanes taking off and landing at MCIA....:D (Like all the aiports, its the pre-departure area that is my fave and arrival area is not... I even love the tarmac than the arrival area, hehe!) :D
shyaman February 19th, 2009, 12:34 PM Cebu-Mactan International Airport
Departing passenger drop -off area
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2031/DSC_0001a.jpg
Baggage check-in hall
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2031/DSC_0015a.jpg
Pre-boarding area… for Cebu Pacific Air
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2031/DSC_0042a.jpg
Pre-boarding area… for other airlines
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shyaman February 19th, 2009, 12:37 PM Airside…
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mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 19th, 2009, 12:48 PM ^^ I hate that part right there...:nuts: :lol: I feel cluttered with the arrival area but...my fave part in MCIA would always be the pre-departure area....I could get the view of airplanes taking off and landing at MCIA....:D (Like all the aiports, its the pre-departure area that is my fave and arrival area is not... I even love the tarmac than the arrival area, hehe!) :D
^^ hahaha... ang sabihin mo bai @berns na gustong-gusto mo ng umalis kaya gusto mo ang pre-departure area! :lol::lol::laugh::rofl:
habagatcentral1 February 19th, 2009, 01:15 PM ^^ Who say's who? :lol:
Mas madrama pa pag nag-take off na ang eroplano...may kasama pang tangis yan, hehehe!!!
Pero mao na bai, all airports in the country...its the pre-departure area that makes a lasting impact in one airport...because its the place where you will stay longer than any other place at the airport...pwera na lang if matagal ka sa CR o employee ka, hehe! :D
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 19th, 2009, 01:23 PM ^^
yea right! its the pre-departure area where you can stay longer. pero mas okay magstay pag hindi masyadong mahal ang food kasi pag mura lang, ay naku, baka hindi na ako makaalis! haha..:lol::lol::laugh:
baka isa yun sa rason kung bakit mahal ang food sa airport! haha..:lol::lol::colgate:
habagatcentral1 February 19th, 2009, 01:24 PM ^^ Hay...airport food...why is it so uber expensive by the way? Despite that the airport is being run by the government...but the rates here are much higher than at the malls...
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 19th, 2009, 01:32 PM ^^
hahaha... maybe because they found out that most of all who goes to the airports can afford (tourists most esp) and those at the seaports are medyo can't afford (locals most esp)! hahaha...:lol::lol::colgate:
Jimbu February 19th, 2009, 06:49 PM ^^
i hate the ceiling. :nuts:
poor design and the airport manager is doing nothing to improve. :)
majaba February 19th, 2009, 07:38 PM [QUOTE=shyaman;32530606]Airside…
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grat shots :banana:
shyaman did it again :banana:
really impressive those line-ups of aircraft !!! :banana:
thanks again ! :banana:
flesh_is_weak February 19th, 2009, 11:12 PM maybe when we get a bigger terminal, they could open the pre-departure and check-in areas to well-wishers too...it's a nice place to share a cup of coffee with a friend that you might not see again for a long time, for example...
mAiNsTrEaMhunter February 21st, 2009, 10:24 AM Synergy at 24/7: "Clark has surpassed Mactan-Cebu in number of international passengers!"
FOLLOW THE DREAM By Danilo Augusto B. Francia / danfrancia@mactan-cebuairport.com.ph Updated February 21, 2009 12:00 AM
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=442208&publicationSubCategoryId=111
I remember my positive reaction after hearing this from Commissioner of Immigration Alipio Fernandez way back in 2005. I was the President/CEO of Clark International Airport Corporation that time and the airport was the host to Low Cost Carrier operations. Because of increasing numbers and our target of maintaining 23 minutes on the ground time for the LCCs in the most comfortable and effective way for the passengers, we have constantly been testing, implementing and enforcing optimum integration among the different agencies of government, airline staff, ground handlers, fuel providers, service and retail outlets and concessionaires and terminal management and operations personnel at the Passenger Terminal.
We have gone way past Clark during the more than two years since I moved over to Mactan Cebu. We have gone beyond the 70 International Flights weekly already since the 46 flights weekly in 2005. And now Mactan Cebu International Airport’s development objective is to serve the full spectrum of airline types and create the means to assure full synergy of all operators and locators in the airport.
The Legacy (5 star) Airlines will continue to provide full range of services to its passengers and will be concentrating in the medium to long range intercontinental routes. Such airlines will use subsidiaries that will serve the regional and domestic legs, either in its full service or low cost models. In the domestic scene, the third generation Turbo-Prop Aircraft is becoming the mainstay of Low Cost Carriers. We envision other airlines to start operating at Mactan.
As Mactan Cebu gears itself to realize its potential as a major hub, recent developments in the world have strengthened this vision. While we expected flights to slow down this year, our January operations in domestic operations gave us a lift as flights even increased by a big 51 percent from 995 last January to 1,506 this time. We still had a 4 percent increase in international flights, too.
Because we needed to be more integrated in our planning and operations, and be more efficient in providing services, the time was really ripe for a planning workshop among all sectors in the Department of Transportation and Communications. We just had a set of two-day workshops: the first in Clark and the second in Davao.
The first two days focused on looking at each sector’s accomplishments over the years and getting the most of available resources and guidance based on scenarios, to continue and complete vital projects in harmony with each other. So the Air, Maritime, Road, Railway, Communications and Transportation Security sectors completed their planning framework in Clark.
The next two days concentrated in Regional Integration of the sectors. We at Region 7, and with regions 6 and 8, worked together in fleshing out problem areas and working on the multi-modal connections of the transport sectors.
Many of the inputs that are part of MCIAA’s methodology in the quest to becoming the ultimate hub, came from these type of workshops and participating in world fora, as well as site inspections of multi-awarded airports of distinction.
mwg12a February 21st, 2009, 12:07 PM ^^ Hay...airport food...why is it so uber expensive by the way? Despite that the airport is being run by the government...but the rates here are much higher than at the malls...
Because of the rent and not very many people really buy alot from them since the full service airliners most especially serves snacks and drinks atleast. It's not like those stores outside where people can just pluck in a store and buy all kinds of things from them. You can't find any airport in this world where anything inside the airport is cheaper than outside really. And maybe part of what flesh mention is true, passengers mostly are "can afford" or atleast have money for that day.... he he
kiretoce February 21st, 2009, 09:58 PM ^^ I don't know if this also applies to CEB, but a part of the reason why mechandise sold at the airport is a little bit pricey compared to the same product outside the airport is because inside it's "duty free" (no taxes). Airport merchants still have to make a profit, so they bump up the retail prices to cover the losses they incurred when they don't charge a sales tax.
MatudNilaBaby February 21st, 2009, 11:20 PM Synergy at 24/7: "Clark has surpassed Mactan-Cebu in number of international passengers!"
FOLLOW THE DREAM By Danilo Augusto B. Francia / danfrancia@mactan-cebuairport.com.ph Updated February 21, 2009 12:00 AM
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=442208&publicationSubCategoryId=111
I remember my positive reaction after hearing this from Commissioner of Immigration Alipio Fernandez way back in 2005. I was the President/CEO of Clark International Airport Corporation that time and the airport was the host to Low Cost Carrier operations. Because of increasing numbers and our target of maintaining 23 minutes on the ground time for the LCCs in the most comfortable and effective way for the passengers, we have constantly been testing, implementing and enforcing optimum integration among the different agencies of government, airline staff, ground handlers, fuel providers, service and retail outlets and concessionaires and terminal management and operations personnel at the Passenger Terminal.
We have gone way past Clark during the more than two years since I moved over to Mactan Cebu. We have gone beyond the 70 International Flights weekly already since the 46 flights weekly in 2005. And now Mactan Cebu International Airport’s development objective is to serve the full spectrum of airline types and create the means to assure full synergy of all operators and locators in the airport.
The Legacy (5 star) Airlines will continue to provide full range of services to its passengers and will be concentrating in the medium to long range intercontinental routes. Such airlines will use subsidiaries that will serve the regional and domestic legs, either in its full service or low cost models. In the domestic scene, the third generation Turbo-Prop Aircraft is becoming the mainstay of Low Cost Carriers. We envision other airlines to start operating at Mactan.
As Mactan Cebu gears itself to realize its potential as a major hub, recent developments in the world have strengthened this vision. While we expected flights to slow down this year, our January operations in domestic operations gave us a lift as flights even increased by a big 51 percent from 995 last January to 1,506 this time. We still had a 4 percent increase in international flights, too.
Because we needed to be more integrated in our planning and operations, and be more efficient in providing services, the time was really ripe for a planning workshop among all sectors in the Department of Transportation and Communications. We just had a set of two-day workshops: the first in Clark and the second in Davao.
The first two days focused on looking at each sector’s accomplishments over the years and getting the most of available resources and guidance based on scenarios, to continue and complete vital projects in harmony with each other. So the Air, Maritime, Road, Railway, Communications and Transportation Security sectors completed their planning framework in Clark.
The next two days concentrated in Regional Integration of the sectors. We at Region 7, and with regions 6 and 8, worked together in fleshing out problem areas and working on the multi-modal connections of the transport sectors.
Many of the inputs that are part of MCIAA’s methodology in the quest to becoming the ultimate hub, came from these type of workshops and participating in world fora, as well as site inspections of multi-awarded airports of distinction.
these fora should been done a long time ago before the economic crises hit the global markets. now that dmia is showing some gains in air traffic only is mcia interested in moving up the ladder.
a new terminal for international passengers must be in place to compliment with the domestic terminal not waiting for international airlines to land on mcia that you wait to construct a T2.
learn from the new denver international airport. once it was completed. us airways or delta airlines made it as their hub and now it ranks as one of the busiest and best airports in the us.
mwg12a February 22nd, 2009, 05:37 PM I am not sure what the authorities are waiting for considering other provinces are having their own new terminal buildings. I mean MCIA can have T2 for international wing about the size of the new Ilo-Ilo or Bacolod airports and still keep the current terminal building in MCIA for it's domestic operations. There is enough space for T2 in the current location. That current planned expansion hasn't commenced yet, I wonder what is keeping them from starting with all these.
diehardbisdak February 22nd, 2009, 06:18 PM Cebu Pacific to add flights this summer (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW022309/content.php?id=045)
BusinessWorld Online - Vol. XXII, No. 144
Monday, February 23, 2009 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES
LOW-COST carrier Cebu Pacific will increase its flights to selected domestic and international leisure destinations to capitalize on the strong demand during the summer season.
The Gokongwei-led airline will add four weekly midday flights to its twice daily Manila to Singapore route starting March 29.
Cebu to Hong Kong flights will also be expanded from four times a week to once a day, while an additional Saturday flight will be added to its Ho Chi Minh service.
For its domestic flights, Cebu Pacific will increase its Manila to Boracay (Caticlan) service to 77 times a week from 56 times weekly, and its Cebu to Caticlan service to twice daily from once daily.
The carrier’s Manila to Busuanga service will also be increased to twice daily, while flights to its Davao to Zamboanga route will be hiked from four times a week to daily.
Cebu Pacific will use its eighth ATR 72-500 aircraft to mount the additional domestic flights, which will increase to 1,206 from 1,152.
"We hope to continue stimulating air travel in these sought-after destinations by offering our trademark low fares and new aircraft," Candice A. Iyog, Cebu Pacific vice-president for marketing, said in a statement.
The airline recently cut ticket prices by up to 17% by removing surcharges for international flights.
Rival Philippine Airlines likewise said it had slashed fuel surcharges by as much as $38 on selected international flights from Manila in response to decreasing world oil prices.
Cebu Pacific, which posted P19.5 billion in revenues last year, expects to grow by 28% to P25 billion this year.
The International Air Transport Association (IATA), which represents some 230 airlines that make up 93% of scheduled international air traffic, earlier said air travel around the world had dipped by 2.8% last year.
For December alone, traffic fell by 13.3% from the same period a year earlier.
IATA also said losses of airlines around the world had reached $800 million in the last quarter of 2008, and full-year losses had likely hit $5 billion. — Jose Bimbo F. Santos
AmbutLang February 22nd, 2009, 07:17 PM poor design and the airport manager is doing nothing to improve. :)
Bai, Have you seen JFK terminal 7 predeparture area? Mas grabi ka bati. Maayo unta nindot sa coming new terminal 8.:)
Masnindot ang domestic area sa MCIA kay sa International side predeparture area. It is time gyud kinahanglan new terminal for international side. :bash:
diehardbisdak February 22nd, 2009, 07:22 PM ^^ grabe ang kurakot when the present MCIA Termional was still under construction....imagine, billion na nga project, pero ang resulta...considering that was in the early 90's..barata pa kaayo ang materials and labor...
thescene February 26th, 2009, 10:41 AM How much is the terminal fee and travel tax sa Cebu airport for domestic flights?
raffy_east February 26th, 2009, 06:25 PM So I noticed in the PAL website that the CEBU-OSAKA and CEBU-SEOUL will end on March 22 and April 5 respectively. I guess theres not much passenger on this flight. This economic crisis is bad. I hope they will restart flights to this cities soon.
mwg12a February 27th, 2009, 05:18 AM Really? That's sad. Global recession does have an effect everywhere you go now, sometimes even in the middleast although it's not as bad in the west or US i'm sure.
AmbutLang March 1st, 2009, 03:44 AM How much is the terminal fee and travel tax sa Cebu airport for domestic flights?
I only know international terminal fee is 550 pesos.
Bai, I have heard from my neice working in one of the restaurant, nga ang propose area sa new terminal building is the parking lot going inside the Air Force base. Sige paman kuno sila meeting. :ohno:
About the clearance of the flight path of the planes Flight Safety Digest September 2004 article.
Here is the link. about 48 pages. :)
http://www.flightsafety.org/fsd/fsd_sept04.pdf
venntro March 3rd, 2009, 08:46 AM Chinese tourists lead rise in direct foreign visitors to Cebu (http://http://www.bworldonline.com/BW030309/content.php?id=056)
TOURISTS from mainland China arriving in Cebu last January increased 204%, while visitors from Hong Kong rose 163%, the Tourism department said in a statement yesterday.
In addition to the growing number of Chinese visitors, Russian tourists also increased 133% and Indians by 108%. Russians come during their winter period to stay for 12-15 days, while Indian tourists stay for an average of 20 days, the statement read.
The number of tourists directly arriving at the Mactan-Cebu International Airport last January grew 5% year on year to 36,653.
zoroethgenre_003 March 14th, 2009, 09:18 AM PGMA cites Cebu Int’l Airport Sewage Treatment Plant as model for NAIA, gov’t agencies to adapt
CEBU CITY (PND) – President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo touted here today the Mactan Cebu International Airport (MCIA) Sewage Treatment Plant (STP) as a model that should be replicated at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA).
Impressed by the efficient performance of the MCIA water treatment plant, the President instructed Presidential Adviser on Climate Change Heherson Alvarez to get the ball rolling on a similar water treatment facility at the NAIA, the country’s premier airport.
She also directed Alvarez to inspect the NAIA waste water or sewage treatment plant and find out if NAIA authorities were complying strictly with the provisions of Executive Order (EO) No. 774 that she issued last year.
The President issued the directive to Alvarez after she inspected the STP facility.
After treatment at the STP, MCIA’s domestic waste is flushed to the Magellan Bay. This is done without any harmful effect on the environment, particularly Magellan Bay.
Waste water from the Cebu airport building flows by gravity into the pump station and from there the waste water is transferred to an inlet chamber. From the inlet chamber, the waste water flows by gravity to an oxidation ditch.
An oxidation ditch and four units of surface aerators are used to provide sufficient oxygen for the biological process and sufficient horizontal velocity to the liquid to prevent solids from settling in the aeration channels.
Bioflocs settle in the final sedimentation tank to return sludge and will return to the oxidation pump. From there, excess sludge is transferred to sludge thickener and clarifier water flows to disinfection tanks.
Last Dec. 26, the President issued EO 774 directing all government agencies and local government units (LGUs) to reduce their solid waste production by 50 percent within six months to lessen the occurrence of greenhouse effect, a direct result of solid wastes that emit greenhouse gasses.
In her directive to Alvarez, the President said NAIA should adapt the MCIA’s SPT model which turns domestic wastes into biologically and environmental-friendly garbage.
“You have to check on NAIA’s waste water treatment plant and check if their sewage plant is similar to what the MCIA has,” the President told Alvarez. She added that all government agencies are expected to do their part in protecting the environment.
She also expressed confidence that NAIA can well afford an STP similar to that of the MCIA’s because NAIA is much bigger and more financially capable than the MCIA.
The President also ordered Alvarez to check all government agencies if they have their own STPs.
Before her visit to the MCIA’s STP, the President received a briefing from Alvarez on the government’s solid waste management program on climate change at the Most Important Person (MIP) lounge of the Edwin Andrews Air Base (EAAB).
She was also briefed by Environment Secretary Lito Atienza on the waste management disposal program in Region 7.
Immediately upon her arrival at Mactan Airport at around 10 a.m., the President proceeded to the MIP, where she was warmly welcomed by Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, Lapu-Lapu City Mayor Arturo Radaza, 6th District Rep. Nerissa Soon-Ruiz and Cebu City North District Rep. Raul Del Mar.
Also accompanying the President in her visit here was Press Secretary and Cabinet Official for Regional Development 7 Cerge Remonde.
Also present were Presidential Assistant for Region 7 Feliz Guanzon, MCIA General Manager Danilo Francia, Central Command (Cencom) chief Maj. Gen. Armando Cunanan, PNP Police Regional Office 7 Regional Director C/Supt. Federico Terte, 2nd Air Division commander Maj. Gen. Nathaniel Legaspi, and 560th Air Base Wing commander Col. Edgardo Mendoza.
shytype March 15th, 2009, 04:40 AM Cathay Pacific celebrates oneworld 10th anniversary
First aircraft in alliance livery flown to Cebu
March 15, 2009
Cebu - The first Cathay Pacific aircraft to carry the Oneworld livery, took its first commercial flight to and from Cebu on March 11 without much funfare and has visited the central Philippine city every other day since.
The Airbus A340-300, arrived back in Hong Kong on 10 March after being painted at the Taikoo (Xiamen) Aircraft Engineering Company facility. The aircraft will be subsequently deployed on various long-haul routes. Cathay Pacific’s remaining two oneworld aircraft, an Airbus A330-300 and a Boeing 777-300ER, will fly in their new colors in the second half of the year.
A striking new livery is going onto three Cathay Pacific aircraft to mark a significant milestone the Oneworld alliance. To highlight their ongoing commitment, the alliance’s 10 full member airlines will each put a standardized livery on a proportion of the aircraft in their fleet.
The new Oneworld aircraft livery features the alliance’s name prominently on the front section of the fuselage, in letters almost two metres high, with the oneworld logo alongside. The whole fuselage is painted white. The Cathay Pacific name is placed in fixed position in the livery, below the oneworld name, while the tailfin remains in Cathay Pacific colours as for the rest of the fleet.
Cathay Pacific Chief Executive Tony Tyler said: “Being a member of the alliance has helped Cathay Pacific extend our reach into new markets, offer an enhanced service to our frequent travellers and generate benefits from being in partnership with some of the world’s finest airlines. Looking ahead, our relationship with oneworld will continue to be an integral part of our strategy for future growth and development over the next 10 years and beyond.”
The airline was one of the five original founder members of Oneworld when the alliance came into being on 1 February 1999. oneworld now brings together some of the best and biggest names in the airline business with 10 full members and around 20 affiliates serving almost 700 airports in nearly 150 countries.
shytype March 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM Mactan airport suffers drop in international passengers
But enjoys domestic boom
March 19, 2009
CEBU CITY – The Mactan Cebu International Airport (MCIA) recorded a 4% drop of International flights compared to previous period last year, said Danilo Francia, MCIA general manager saying further that the airport is starting to feel the heat of the economic global crisis.
The figure is the first officially recorded report of the slow down that was predicted by the International Air Transport Association (IATA) to hit this year.
Francia note that the decline in international arrival was however compensated with a 20-percent increase in domestic flights at the airport for the same period in January. There were 3,013 inbound and outbound domestic flights at the MCIA, which translates to about 303,412 serviced passengers.
The international flights on the other hand showed 688 inbound and outbound flights at the MCIA. This means that 89,518 passengers were serviced by the airport in January, according to the traffic movement statistics made by MCIA statistician Eric Briones.
In contrast, tourism figures painted a different statistics. The number of foreign tourists directly arriving at the Mactan-Cebu International Airport last January grew 5% year on year to 36,653.
“We were surprised at the figures because of the very significant increase,” said Department of Tourism Undersecretary Phineas Alburo.
Foreign tourists from mainland China arriving in Cebu last January increased 204%, while visitors from Hong Kong rose 163%. In addition to the growing number of Chinese visitors, Russian tourists also increased 133% and Indians by 108%. Russians come during their winter period to stay for 12-15 days, while Indian tourists stay for an average of 20 days.
The figures are based on the records of the Bureau of Immigration regarding the number of tourists who landed at the Mactan-Cebu International Airport, said Alburo. “The industry has not been affected that much. The tourism industry in Cebu continues to be vibrant, and tourism-related businesses continue to hire people,” said the Cebuano undersecretary.
The airport and tourism statistics can however be reconciled, as majority of the foreigners arrived on domestic flights from other regions in the country that their entry can be attributed either to Manila International Airport, Clark International or Kalibo International airport, which all registered positive growth. All airports have flights going to Cebu and vice versa.
Alburo continued that Philippine Airlines will launch a direct Manila–New Delhi flight by August to capitalize on the growing Indian market. The flights could be accelerated depending on the response of the market, he said.
In 2008, the airport served 21,969 domestic flights carrying about 2.997 million domestic passengers while international flights totaled 6,436 flights which carried 994,136 passengers. MCIA handled about 3.991 million passengers in total. It also service 52,691 aircraft in the airport in all categories. The airport terminal has a designed passenger capacity of 5 million passengers, with 3.5 million devoted to domestic operations.
In 2007 it handled 3.14 million passengers and served a total of 48,364 aircraft for domestic, international, general aviation, and military planes.
Despite the global economic crisis of year 2008 aircraft movements recorded a growth rate year on year of 13% for domestic and 3% for international over 2007. The volume of domestic passenger grew by 8% and 3% for international. But international cargo volume declined by 9% and 8% for domestic compared a year ago.
The Cebuano Exultor March 19th, 2009, 09:06 PM ^^ I'm quite disappointed that MCIA's passenger throughput hadn't grown as fast as expected. I mean, wasn't it this year that MCIA's passenger throughput was predicted to breach the 5 million pax. mark?
MatudNilaBaby March 19th, 2009, 09:18 PM well mcia needed to get the market share coming from the west coast like la, sf, seatle or vancouver or even downsouth australia in order to increase it foreign arrivals instead of just relying on the asian and middle east markets. kaysa maghuwat lang sila ug unsay i wisikwisik nila sa naia.
also the only way to make mcia attractive to foreign travelers is the much needed upgrade in every aspect of its operation. dili pa gyud kaayo pang international ang iyang mga facilities and services. sa local standard siguro maconsider nimo as international standard but the real international standard is really high standard. so now is the high time for mcia to undergo a facelift so when the world economy picks up, the new mcia is ready and up for the challenge.
flesh_is_weak March 20th, 2009, 02:00 AM ^^mao gyud, ngano wala may flights between australia and CEB? i think dapat pud ta mag-advertise didto...
clarion March 20th, 2009, 02:25 AM let it begin.....the new MCIA terminal...
mwg12a March 20th, 2009, 04:51 AM well mcia needed to get the market share coming from the west coast like la, sf, seatle or vancouver or even downsouth australia in order to increase it foreign arrivals instead of just relying on the asian and middle east markets. kaysa maghuwat lang sila ug unsay i wisikwisik nila sa naia.
also the only way to make mcia attractive to foreign travelers is the much needed upgrade in every aspect of its operation. dili pa gyud kaayo pang international ang iyang mga facilities and services. sa local standard siguro maconsider nimo as international standard but the real international standard is really high standard. so now is the high time for mcia to undergo a facelift so when the world economy picks up, the new mcia is ready and up for the challenge.
Well, global crisis, it's true and it's real. Atleast the domestic passenger activities in MCIA increased.
It's easy to attract foreign tourist to Cebu even if the terminal hasn't improved yet, it's what Cebu has to offer for leisure travelers.
The best bet for Cebu or the Philippines would be the Aussies and Kiwis, as well as the european travelers, then you've got the Russians ... US or North America, ofcourse it's not impossible to attract them but with this economic crisis we have in the US, few people would really spend much, besides, There are major tourist attractions that is also world class which is closer to the US and Canada, you have Cancun in Mexico, Virgin Islands, Barbedos, Bahamas, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Jamaica, then you have alot of beach resorts in Florida, south Texas, California where people gets attracted to visit because it is where the most beautiful people and where the most gorgeous women in the planet plucked in, not to mention Brazil beaches, so North America would be a bit tough to attract, especially when the biggest leisure travelers aren't just the business people but the hot blooded youngers who spend tons of money during this time of the year, "the Spring break".
mAiNsTrEaMhunter March 20th, 2009, 05:32 AM hehehe...i love spring break! ;)
marlowe_cano March 20th, 2009, 05:47 AM hehehe...i love spring break! ;)
i love cebu!! and i miss it sooo much....
mAiNsTrEaMhunter March 20th, 2009, 11:43 AM Chinese, HK tourist arrivals in Cebu go up
Sun Star Cebu
Friday, March 20, 2009
BOLSTERED by the incessant in-market tactical programs by the Department of Tourism (DOT) and its partner stakeholders—which include tour operators, hotels, resorts and the transportation sector—Chinese arrivals in Cebu posted a remarkable growth of 204 percent, while Hong Kong visitors went up by 163 percent in January 2009 during the Chinese New Year and other celebrations.
Tourism Secretary Joseph Ace Durano also attributed the increase in arrivals to three travel considerations of the Chinese market which include cost, Chinese-friendly culture, as well as quick and affordable facilitation of visa processing.
“We are strong on all three factors. We have value-for-money destination packages, pervasive Chinese influences, and visa-upon-arrival for tourists,” Durano stressed.
Nine direct chartered flights from Shanghai to Cebu also served to accommodate the huge inbound traffic of Chinese arrivals.
In addition to the growing number of Chinese visiting Cebu, the volume of Russian tourists also expanded by 133 percent while Indian arrivals went up by 108 percent.
“Russian visitors come over during their winter period to stay at an average of 12 to 15 days in our islands, to soak up the sun, shop and try out our adventure tours,” Durano said.
Indian tourists, on the other hand, find Cebu an ideal destination for both holiday and corporate incentive trips. “The holiday-makers from Indian stay for an average of 20 days, spending currency on shopping, entertainment and sightseeing,” Durano said.
With the substantial growth in visitor arrivals from China, Hong Kong, Russia and India, the number of tourists directly arriving at the Mactan-Cebu International Airport in January 2009 grew by five percent to 36,653.
China has a fast-growing economy, with an annual average of 40 million outbound tourists each spending an average of $3,000 per trip, according to independent surveys on China’s tourism industry. (PR)
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/chinese-hk-tourist-arrivals-cebu-go
manila_eye March 20th, 2009, 04:21 PM let it begin.....the new MCIA terminal...
do they have plan to build a new one? location? any render?
MatudNilaBaby March 22nd, 2009, 12:00 AM do they have plan to build a new one? location? any render?
expansion is planned within the same area maybe just adding another terminal to house the international in coming and outgoing flights and separate from the busy domestic terminal.
so far they havent come up with a new rendering. just plans plans plans.
mwg12a March 22nd, 2009, 12:07 AM There was a plan for T2 before I believe, but right now, I think they are just pushing for expansion for the time being. My gut feeling is that, MIAA or whomever is responsible for MCIA, they are still weighing everything first amidst the global economic crisis and the slow in air travels in the recent years.
Sleepwalker March 22nd, 2009, 03:01 AM I think, MCIA is directly under DOTC.
The Cebuano Exultor March 22nd, 2009, 03:32 AM The best bet for Cebu or the Philippines would be the Aussies and Kiwis, as well as the european travelers, then you've got the Russians
^^ We can't rely on either of these groups, too.
The Russian economy is in a pretty bad shape lately. Russia's economy was heavily skewed to the commodity-supply industry. When the prices for commodities like coal, iron ore, oil, and, most especially, gas were at their peak last year; Russia was on-a-roll. However, when the commodity prices slipped from their peaks and began a downward spiral (all thanks to the global financial crisis), it became clear that Russia's economic strength was, apparently, grossly overestimated. I mean, it was only a year ago that Moscow, Russia's capital, was home to the most number of billionaires (74 versus New York City's 71). Now, Moscow could only muster 27 billionaires.
We also can't rely on the Aussies as their economy is also in the shitter. Australia's economy is heavily reliant on their mining exports to China. When the great American consumption binge stopped and the Chinese export-juggernaut stalled, Australia's mineral exports had nowhere to go.
As for the Europeans, we shouldn't even bother hoping for them to come. All of Western Europe is in recession mode right now. Central and Eastern Europe, once the bastion for new growth for the European Union, is in an even worse shape. Eastern European countries in the Baltic are the worst hit among them.
Meanwhile, Japan's economy is projected to shrink by as much as 5.8%. We also can't rely on them for growth.
The only bright spots left today are India, China, Indonesia, and--hold your breath--the Philippines.
mwg12a March 22nd, 2009, 04:42 AM ^^ That's what I was saying. Global recession is true and happening. It's the ripple effect on the international community because alot of them do business with the US and if the economy in the US doesn't improve sooner, we never know, China might get affected as well since there are many corporations and investments in the mainland US that came from China as well.
But I was just saying that between oceania and north america, it's easier to attract oceanic tourists to the Philippines due to it's proximity and it's distance from an already established world class resorts in the west and the carribean.
manila_eye March 22nd, 2009, 06:44 AM expansion is planned within the same area maybe just adding another terminal to house the international in coming and outgoing flights and separate from the busy domestic terminal.
so far they havent come up with a new rendering. just plans plans plans.
mactan houses various hotelts and resorts. expanding the current mactan airport might affect the natural beauty and attraction of the said island. can't they just move it to other parts of cebu?
diehardbisdak March 22nd, 2009, 09:29 AM ^^ northern part will be the best location...why not bai...heheh!
demented_pigeon March 22nd, 2009, 03:24 PM ^^ We can't rely on either of these groups, too.
The Russian economy is in a pretty bad shape lately. Russia's economy was heavily skewed to the commodity-supply industry. When the prices for commodities like coal, iron ore, oil, and, most especially, gas were at their peak last year; Russia was on-a-roll. However, when the commodity prices slipped from their peaks and began a downward spiral (all thanks to the global financial crisis), it became clear that Russia's economic strength was, apparently, grossly overestimated. I mean, it was only a year ago that Moscow, Russia's capital, was home to the most number of billionaires (74 versus New York City's 71). Now, Moscow could only muster 27 billionaires this year.
We also can't rely on the Aussies as their economy is also in the shitter. Australia's economy is heavily reliant on their mining exports to China. When the great American consumption binge stopped and the Chinese export-juggernaut stalled, Australia's mineral exports had nowhere to go.
As for the Europeans, we shouldn't even bother hoping for them to come. All of Western Europe is in recession mode right now. Central and Eastern Europe, once the bastion for new growth for the European Union, is in an even worse shape. Eastern European countries in the Baltic are the worst hit among them.
Meanwhile, Japan's economy is projected to shrink by as much as 5.8%. We also can't rely on them for growth.
The only bright spots today are India, China, and Indonesia.
i guess this might be another lost decade for japan.
The Cebuano Exultor March 22nd, 2009, 08:02 PM ^^ Yeah.
But Japan will remain an economic powerhouse, even as it declines further in the economic rankings. I believe that it is impossible to dislodge it from the top 10 anytime within this century.
The Cebuano Exultor March 22nd, 2009, 08:33 PM ^^ That's what I was saying. Global recession is true and happening. It's the ripple effect on the international community because alot of them do business with the US and if the economy in the US doesn't improve sooner, we never know, China might get affected as well since there are many corporations and investments in the mainland US that came from China as well.
^^ Among the four Asian economies that I mentioned, China is the most resilient so far (all thanks to its huge stimulus package and mountains of foreign-exchange reserves).
But I was just saying that between oceania and north america, it's easier to attract oceanic tourists to the Philippines due to it's proximity and it's distance from an already established world class resorts in the west and the carribean.
^^ Yeah. You have a point. :yes:
MatudNilaBaby March 22nd, 2009, 08:42 PM mactan houses various hotelts and resorts. expanding the current mactan airport might affect the natural beauty and attraction of the said island. can't they just move it to other parts of cebu?
a new international terminal is only a wing of the old mcia building. it will utilize the same runway which is not used to the maximum yet. not unless there is another highly developed area in cebu other than metro cebu, to move the airport to another parts of cebu will be feasible. mcia is strategically located for the cebu mainland cities and towns.
mwg12a March 23rd, 2009, 05:51 AM ^^ Among the four Asian economies that I mentioned, China is the most resilient so far (all thanks to its huge stimulus package and mountains of foreign-exchange reserves).
I won't argue on this one because I know it has some truth to it. We can use the chinese mainland people as an exemption to this but ofcourse, if the Philippines can attract other foreign tourist, it would be great, just that this recession is hampering the tourism industry right now even in the Philippines.
a new international terminal is only a wing of the old mcia building. it will utilize the same runway which is not used to the maximum yet. not unless there is another highly developed area in cebu other than metro cebu, to move the airport to another parts of cebu will be feasible. mcia is strategically located for the cebu mainland cities and towns.
There is enough space around MCIA location where another terminal or a T2 can be built, I'm sure if it comes to the point where a secondary runway is needed, they can reclaim a big land for a new or additional runway that is probably similar to Macau's runway...
Sleepwalker March 23rd, 2009, 05:58 AM I won't argue on this one because I know it has some truth to it. We can use the chinese mainland people as an exemption to this but ofcourse, if the Philippines can attract other foreign tourist, it would be great, just that this recession is hampering the tourism industry right now even in the Philippines.
Philippines is now gaining momentum in terms of BPO and tourism. Though this recession is affecting us, it should not be the reason to stop in gaining more momentum. It only affects the number, for now...but it should not stop the effort.
How i wish our agricultural sector could rise again and bring back the glory days of Masagana 99.
Para dili OT:
MCIAA, please let us see some light on your plan to expand/renovate the old MCIA.
MatudNilaBaby March 23rd, 2009, 06:13 AM Philippines is now gaining momentum in terms of BPO and tourism. Though this recession is affecting us, it should not be the reason to stop in gaining more momentum. It only affects the number, for now...but it should not stop the effort.
How i wish our agricultural sector could rise again and bring back the glory days of Masagana 99.
Para dili OT:
MCIAA, please let us see some light on your plan to expand/renovate the old MCIA.
ayaw usa samoka sa director francia kay nag fora fora pa sa iyang gibati. its a given that mcia needs a dire make over.
mwg12a March 23rd, 2009, 07:11 AM @sleepwalker, I'm not saying that the Philippines is not gaining momentum with BPO and tourism. Although there is a noted slight decrease in tourism lately especially from north america and perhaps japan, that's just a general scenario when it comes to global tourism industry. Atleast the tourism in the Philippines isn't as affected because the tourist comes from mostly adjoining asian countries. It's a good thing that Philippines local traveler still hasn't really stop traveling. Thanks to LCC airline companies in the Philippines.
Sleepwalker March 23rd, 2009, 07:14 AM Opssss...I was not trying to make some rebuttal on your statement... :)
Yep, LCC is one of the factor why the tourism machinery is running.
mwg12a March 23rd, 2009, 07:15 AM yeah I know you weren't, just reinforcing even more on your statement ..he he
BULLDOG March 23rd, 2009, 05:17 PM AirAsia keen on more landing rights in Philippines
20-01-2009: by Gan Yen Kuan
KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia Bhd is working on securing more landing rights in the Philippines to expand its network in the republic, its group chief executive Datuk Seri Tony Fernandes said.
In particular, he said, the budget carrier was keen for both its associates — Indonesia AirAsia and Thai AirAsia — to fly to Cebu, Manila, Davao and Zamboanga in the Philippines next year.
“We are keen to open more points from Thailand into the Philippines, as well as from Jakarta. We are looking at Cebu right now, and we are very keen on going to Manila. We also really want to develop Zamboanga and Davao.
:cheers:
“(Our target) is next year for sure. We hope we get the rights. Getting rights is not easy,” he told reporters after the launching of the Asean Basketball League here yesterday.
Currently, AirAsia’s only destination in the Philippines is Clark, about 80km north of Manila, with daily flights out of Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu.
At yesterday’s event, Fernandes launched the Asean Basketball League (ABL), an initiative by South East Asian Basketball Association and several private investors to create a regional basketball league that will see the participation of professional teams owned and operated by private owners.
ABL will be hosted by cities in each Asean member country, with the first season scheduled to start in September this year and end in February 2010. Fernandes, who is the league’s chairman, and several other investors would provide the initial funding of some RM5 million.
“This (ABL) has got nothing to do with AirAsia and Tune group. It’s in my personal capacity. I’ve always loved sports,” Fernandes said.
Asked if AirAsia would be chosen as the exclusive carrier to transport ABL’s players and fans, he said: “It’s up to ABL to propose to AirAsia. Naturally, it makes sense for AirAsia. We can move fans around due to our strong connectivity in Asean.”
Bernama reported that AirAsia would launch a new route from Penang to Macau beginning March 1. There will be four direct flights a week from Penang and three a week from Macau. The minimum fare for a one-way trip is RM49 and tickets can be booked online from Jan 19 to 25, for travel between March 1 and Oct 24.
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arianespace March 24th, 2009, 04:37 AM ^^
Air Asia has been free to fly Cebu since 2005. But judging from Malaysia Airlines statistics, the answer lies at their noses. Meaning, the load is not quite very good.
My cents worth, I might be surprise if they tell me they are not interested to fly Manila anymore. Because they have been applying to fly that route for a long time yet never managed to find a space. While they are free to fly to all international airports in Mindanao yet never flew. What do you make of that?
I'm not convinced still.
BULLDOG March 24th, 2009, 08:54 AM ^^
Air Asia has been free to fly Cebu since 2005. But judging from Malaysia Airlines statistics, the answer lies at their noses. Meaning, the load is not quite very good.
My cents worth, I might be surprise if they tell me they are not interested to fly Manila anymore. Because they have been applying to fly that route for a long time yet never managed to find a space. While they are free to fly to all international airports in Mindanao yet never flew. What do you make of that?
I'm not convinced still.
You better ask the AirAsia management if you want to know further about their plans why they consider Cebu as one of their target for expansion.
This is AirAsia press release.............not mine
winztotoy March 24th, 2009, 09:37 AM Question:
Where is the arrival area for international passengers? Is it the same as domestic? If not, how to go there by foot if you will make sundo?
Salamat daan sa mga tubag. :)
kalbongdad March 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM Question:
Where is the arrival area for international passengers? Is it the same as domestic? If not, how to go there by foot if you will make sundo?
Salamat daan sa mga tubag. :)
if the plane is facing the terminal...yung arrival ng intl flights ay nasa kaliwa....yung dalawang bridge na parteng kaliwa international yun at yung dalawang bridge sa right pang domestic...although minsan nakasakay ako na sa bridge ng international pumarada ang plane mas malayo lang ang lalakarin mo papuntang domestic but since they are situated in the same bldg...parang halo lang....i can't remember kung meron jeep na dumidiretso sa terminal...taxi lang ata...
winztotoy March 25th, 2009, 01:39 AM if the plane is facing the terminal...yung arrival ng intl flights ay nasa kaliwa....yung dalawang bridge na parteng kaliwa international yun at yung dalawang bridge sa right pang domestic...although minsan nakasakay ako na sa bridge ng international pumarada ang plane mas malayo lang ang lalakarin mo papuntang domestic but since they are situated in the same bldg...parang halo lang....i can't remember kung meron jeep na dumidiretso sa terminal...taxi lang ata...
kalbongdad, thanks a lot. i'll be in cebu this holy week...
dave iconas April 8th, 2009, 02:32 PM gamaya ra jhud sa MCIA oe...kailangan na jhud na e expand ang airport..ang current terminal himoon nila og domestic terminal nya maghimo og laing terminal para sa international destinations.:ohno:
kiretoce April 9th, 2009, 03:05 AM ^^ Next time, please post in English for the sake of our international visitors to our forums. Thank you very much for your cooperation on this matter.
brownislander April 9th, 2009, 05:31 AM Char!
kalbongdad April 9th, 2009, 05:48 AM well kung palagi ng puno ang airport maybe its about time to build terminal 2 for cebu....or just extend the terminal bldg to accomodate new air bridges....and baggage carousel
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 9th, 2009, 07:26 AM ^^
hay naku bai, its been a long time already that cebu's airport badly needs another terminal building but it always ends up in plans, plans, plans and so many plans. :ohno:
ivanc April 9th, 2009, 09:48 AM yeah i remember this article from the Office of the President but it didnt materialize:
http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21936&Itemid=2
Wolfranz April 9th, 2009, 09:51 AM yeah i remember this article from the Office of the President but it didnt materialize:
http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21936&Itemid=2
Thanks to the exposés that revealed his corrupt practices, Adelberto Yap was kicked out of MCIAA. And thus the project's currently put on hold.
brownislander April 9th, 2009, 02:29 PM I think there was a plan to add 2 more air bridges to the existing 4 airbridges of the terminal.
medviation April 9th, 2009, 03:03 PM It seems like our politicians don't see so much importance on airports and aviation. IMO
Look at NAIA. It's left behind by our neighbors. NAIA reminds me of Mumbai Airport. Small airport for a big city.
kalbongdad April 10th, 2009, 05:15 AM It seems like our politicians don't see so much importance on airports and aviation. IMO
Look at NAIA. It's left behind by our neighbors. NAIA reminds me of Mumbai Airport. Small airport for a big city.
well not anymore....upgraded na naia meron ng terminal 2 and 3 na world class ang ganda...
mwg12a April 10th, 2009, 07:08 AM It seems like our politicians don't see so much importance on airports and aviation. IMO
Look at NAIA. It's left behind by our neighbors. NAIA reminds me of Mumbai Airport. Small airport for a big city.
You are just focusing your eyes in NAIA T1 but if you really look into it, NAIA is big because it now has 3 terminal for international operations. That is as big as other terminals in the world. You just can't appreciate it because the terminal buildings are not interconnected. Hopefully, that mono rail plan would push through, they quoted a price for it and it's not really expensive so that's doable.
I think there was a plan to add 2 more air bridges to the existing 4 airbridges of the terminal.
Yes, there has been plan for this in MCIA, I think it's still there, it's just being hampered by politics and possibly it's a repercussion of Yap's corruption act that everything is being scrutinized now that it's delaying even the expansion/reconfiguration of the current terminal building since most of it's offices still can't transfer to the "supposed" business office building which is currently idled when the authorities stopped the construction due to anomaly.
Sinjin P. April 13th, 2009, 02:40 PM To the Mactan Airport
04.11.2009
7:30am
Leaving our Village
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7652/a05e.jpg
Airport Road
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4528/a07q.jpg
Landscaping
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1443/a08d.jpg
Random Photo
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7821/a09u.jpg
Finally arrived at... MCIAA
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2571/a10ant.jpg
Sinjin P. April 13th, 2009, 02:41 PM MCIA
04.11.2009
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6227/a12x.jpg
PAL Check-in Counters
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/43/a13dif.jpg
Air Philippines and PAL Express Check-in Counters
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7642/a14m.jpg
Cebu Pacific Check-in Counters
http://i40.tinypic.com/70vmua.jpg
PR 848 to Manila leaves at 9:45am
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/82/a17y.jpg
Pre-Departure Area
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/286/a18j.jpg
ivanc April 13th, 2009, 05:22 PM check in counters:
why are the airline names/logos in tarp/banner?? it seems that they removed the plastic/solid 3d signages...
diehardbisdak April 14th, 2009, 08:51 PM ...how i wish we have this nice airport in Cebu!
(king Khaled International Airport - Riyadh) - pics by ME!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3437213155_db2afd8c5a.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3437213159_b28381b231.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3437213163_3667b52dd4.jpg?v=0
MatudNilaBaby April 14th, 2009, 09:08 PM unsaon manang mcia substandard mana ang design ever since sa beginning pa sa pag open ana. domestic ra kaayo ang iyang appeal. kanang sa riyadh maka ingon gyud ka nga aaah wow kanindot.
PINOYmeat April 15th, 2009, 06:42 AM ...how i wish we have this nice airport in Cebu!
(king Khaled International Airport - Riyadh) - pics by ME!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3437213155_db2afd8c5a.jpg?v=0
looks like a cake.....hmmm, i think i might just have to take my lunch now! hah!
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 15th, 2009, 09:01 AM ...how i wish we have this nice airport in Cebu!
(king Khaled International Airport - Riyadh) - pics by ME!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3437213155_db2afd8c5a.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3437213159_b28381b231.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3437213163_3667b52dd4.jpg?v=0
if ever man gani, basin mas nindot pa siguro manghimo ang mga cebuanos ani uy. ;)
mwg12a April 15th, 2009, 04:59 PM Yeah, I think I'm not very impressed with that airport in Riyadh. Cebu can have better than that even if it's smaller at first. I mean Cebu deserves better since it is also a gateway to the Philippines.
BULLDOG April 15th, 2009, 05:39 PM Am not impress in Riyadh Airport so monotonous.......mas gusto ko pa matulad ang MCIA sa Kota Kinabalu International Airport kahit di kalakihan pero classy and dating.:banana::banana::banana:
kalbongdad April 16th, 2009, 02:18 PM unsaon manang mcia substandard mana ang design ever since sa beginning pa sa pag open ana. domestic ra kaayo ang iyang appeal. kanang sa riyadh maka ingon gyud ka nga aaah wow kanindot.
no comparison naman ang dalawa...regional airport lang ang sa cebu...ang riyadh...ang katapat nya ang manila...naia....actually i dont find it beautiful....halatang walang tubig sa kanila....yun ang feature na ginawa talaga...
The Cebuano Exultor April 17th, 2009, 07:08 AM ^^ Yep. You're right.
But, who cares. Riyadh's King Khalid International Airport isn't really that impressive of an airport. It's terminal buildings are old and tired-looking.
There are tons of new airport terminals in Asia, especially around East Asia and South-east Asia, that can put King Khalid's terminals to shame.
I'd prefer that it add some resort-like vibe (like Orlando International) or tropics-inspired atmosphere (like Jakarta-Soekarno-Hatta).
firebar10 April 18th, 2009, 11:44 AM Have they released any studies as to how many gates will be needed by an expanded/new Mactan Cebu International Airport? The terminal, at its present state is really not very impressive, considering that it is our second most important gateway after Manila. I imagine a brand new glass/steel terminal building whose design takes its que from local architecture, local climate and green design. Lets make this terminal and other terminals in our country a destination by itself.
arianespace April 18th, 2009, 03:16 PM ^^Have they released any studies as to how many gates will be needed by an expanded/new Mactan Cebu International Airport? The terminal, at its present state is really not very impressive, considering that it is our second most important gateway after Manila. I imagine a brand new glass/steel terminal building whose design takes its que from local architecture, local climate and green design. Lets make this terminal and other terminals in our country a destination by itself.
Of course. Just scroll backwards the post on this thread and you will definitely find that answer! Everybody who wants to know does just like me.:)
One last thing, its not about impression, I mean the terminal. Its about able to pay and afford for it. Presently, MIAA can't so we have to live with it!
marlowe_cano April 18th, 2009, 04:49 PM hope that the national government realize that all airports nationwide, both local and international, should be upgraded to a more eye-catching, tourist-thriving domestic and international airports. At present, the LCC terminals in our ASEAN neighboring countries are far more better than the numerous provincial airports all over the country. As these airports are very significant and are the reflections on how serious and driven our national government in developing our country forward, instead of downward, much worse stagnated.
great184 April 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM ^^ AMEN TO THAT!! The first thing they see of this country are the airports, after all. It has the power to give a lasting impresion of a country.
mwg12a April 19th, 2009, 08:24 PM The government has been doing that already anyway. That's why there are already newer and remodelled airport terminals almost all over the Philippines. Although, there are others that is left unattended yet like Zamboanga airport and MCIA.
With MCIA, I think a similar design as in IloIlo would work, it just needed to be a bit bigger that that and is really laid out for international operations as well where there is big enough space for immigration counters in international arrival wing or section. Although, i would agree that Kota Kinabulu design would be perfect for MCIA as well. I mean, it doesn't have to be copied but just similar to it.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 20th, 2009, 10:06 AM ^^
naku! how i wish its one of the government's top priority projects coz for the cebuanos and the rest of the filipinos, it really is it! ;)
mwg12a April 21st, 2009, 01:11 AM I think the government has MCIA in mind, it's just that the intended business bldg came into a halt because of the anomaly, had those offices were able to transfer in the new business office, the interior of MCIA would have been expanded and has added more bridges. There is nothing really wrong with MCIA, it's still functional. It's a bit outdated when you talk about the design or architecture but I guess it can still get a facelift somehow to look a bit more modern. MCIA is very clean looking. I guess the authorities are just buying time to raise enough fund for terminal 2. I don't think they have a plan to totally Phase out the current terminal building, they were just planning on building T2 for international operations.
winztotoy April 21st, 2009, 03:08 AM Just came from cebu last sunday night... My flight schedule was 8pm. Sobrang sikip ng gate 05 because it was used by CEB and PAL departing within the same time frame... And the worse thing happened was that we boarded (5J flight) using the tarmac because all tubes are in use.
The terminal is not that crowded but the gates are cramped with people with 1 waiting lounge is used by 2 flights at the same time. New terminal building maybe is not needed, they just need to add gates and boarding tubes.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 21st, 2009, 09:06 AM I think the government has MCIA in mind, it's just that the intended business bldg came into a halt because of the anomaly, had those offices were able to transfer in the new business office, the interior of MCIA would have been expanded and has added more bridges. There is nothing really wrong with MCIA, it's still functional. It's a bit outdated when you talk about the design or architecture but I guess it can still get a facelift somehow to look a bit more modern. MCIA is very clean looking. I guess the authorities are just buying time to raise enough fund for terminal 2. I don't think they have a plan to totally Phase out the current terminal building, they were just planning on building T2 for international operations.
and i hope T2 won't scare! pssst psst pssst! :lol::lol::D:rofl:
mwg12a April 21st, 2009, 03:44 PM scare? nganu nai kalag sa iya terminal building og Cebu?
Wind Shear April 21st, 2009, 04:56 PM scare? nganu nai kalag sa iya terminal building og Cebu?
The joke is in reference to the movie entitled "T2" (Tenement 2), a horror movie. :)
mwg12a April 21st, 2009, 06:13 PM I know, that was also a joke you silly goose...LMAO
Wind Shear April 22nd, 2009, 06:23 AM I know, that was also a joke you silly goose...LMAO
For the benefit of others. :)
I don't remember that there's a stray soul in T2. :tongue2: Probably engkantos?
The Cebuano Exultor April 22nd, 2009, 06:26 AM IMHO, the scheduling of flights are to be blamed for the congestion at the terminal.
If the flights are spaced fairly equally throughout the day, I do not think that the terminal would experience any congestion, at any given point in time.
kiretoce April 22nd, 2009, 06:30 AM ^^ Interesting point you brought up there. Is MCIA a 24-hour airport? Or, do they have a curfew on flights arriving and departing?
Wind Shear April 22nd, 2009, 08:10 AM IMHO, the scheduling of flights are to be blamed for the congestion at the terminal.
If the flights are spaced fairly equally throughout the day, I do not think that the terminal would experience any congestion, at any given point in time.
There are more general aviation aircraft flights in a day (Koreans flying over Bohol to see the Chocolate Hills, student pilots taking flight). Someone told me before that the student pilot's flights are usually in the morning and Koreans touring to Bohol and back in the afternoon.
^^ Interesting point you brought up there. Is MCIA a 24-hour airport? Or, do they have a curfew on flights arriving and departing?
MCIA runs 24/7.
Source: I live near the airport. :D
kiretoce April 22nd, 2009, 08:14 AM ^^ So, they have flights arriving and departing at all times of the day? Even at ungodly hours?
Wind Shear April 22nd, 2009, 08:18 AM ^^ So, they have flights arriving and departing at all times of the day? Even at ungodly hours?
Yes. Even I am asleep. Well I am used to the aircraft noise (except for Air Philippines 737s, they are still using old-fashioned engines which is freaking noisy) since I live here for 3 years.
I almost forgot, PAF uses the runway as well. They do have flights from C-130, Fokker F-27, and occassionaly, OV-10s.
By the way, here's the website of the airport.
http://www.mactan-cebuairport.com.ph/
I doubt NAIA has one. Correct me if I am wrong.
Sky Harbor April 22nd, 2009, 09:25 AM ^^ The MIAA has one, after waiting for so long! That would be this (http://125.60.203.88/miaa/default.asp). :D
Wind Shear April 22nd, 2009, 09:41 AM ^^ The MIAA has one, after waiting for so long! That would be this (http://125.60.203.88/miaa/default.asp). :D
:D :lol:
mwg12a April 22nd, 2009, 03:52 PM IMHO, the scheduling of flights are to be blamed for the congestion at the terminal.
If the flights are spaced fairly equally throughout the day, I do not think that the terminal would experience any congestion, at any given point in time.
Well hell, that's probably the reason why there is no T2 projected date yet.
They should atleast wrap at that issue about the business office building and move those offices in that building so MCIA interiors can be modified and expanded internally. The authorities should also give MCIA a bit more of a face lift and hopefully the baggage claim area can be expanded as well. There are alot of ways the authorities can give the airport a facelift that wouldn't cost way too much. Most of the buildings here in the US gets facelifts without actually tearing down any portion of the building.
Sleepwalker April 23rd, 2009, 05:29 AM Well hell, that's probably the reason why there is no T2 projected date yet.
They should atleast wrap at that issue about the business office building and move those offices in that building so MCIA interiors can be modified and expanded internally. The authorities should also give MCIA a bit more of a face lift and hopefully the baggage claim area can be expanded as well. There are alot of ways the authorities can give the airport a facelift that wouldn't cost way too much. Most of the buildings here in the US gets facelifts without actually tearing down any portion of the building.
I totally agree on this...Tearing down any part of the building is just a waste...Retain the old terminal building, but re-arrange what's inside and upgrade everything. It is very disappointing to see so many warnings and words of cautions sticked on every walls and even posts within MCIA...Why can't they just buy a large LCD screen instead putting those banners and stickers.
Another thing I observed is the immigration officer's desk...Still very old looking...I hope MCIAA will upgrade it too.
MCIA is very very outdated.
mAiNsTrEaMhunter April 23rd, 2009, 09:47 AM I totally agree on this...Tearing down any part of the building is just a waste...Retain the old terminal building, but re-arrange what's inside and upgrade everything. It is very disappointing to see so many warnings and words of cautions sticked on every walls and even posts within MCIA...Why can't they just buy a large LCD screen instead putting those banners and stickers.
Another thing I observed is the immigration officer's desk...Still very old looking...I hope MCIAA will upgrade it too.
MCIA is very very outdated.
^^
:lol::lol::D
mao gyud! oldie na kaayo ang MCIAA! :nuts:
and mao sad na akong nabantayan. too many banners and stickers! old school na kaayo ang airport sa cebu!
Wind Shear April 23rd, 2009, 07:44 PM ^^
:lol::lol::D
mao gyud! oldie na kaayo ang MCIAA! :nuts:
and mao sad na akong nabantayan. too many banners and stickers! old school na kaayo ang airport sa cebu!
Not to mention that their staff and the MCIAA Board of Directors are old... fashioned! :lol:
hybridace101 April 24th, 2009, 12:27 AM Their website boasts of "world class" facilities like jet bridges and passport control booths. Aren't those a basic requirement of airports intended for international travel?
mwg12a April 24th, 2009, 12:38 AM Not jet bridges for sure although, it's a bit more convinient for travelers as well as protecting them from the weather condition that is why jet bridges are conceived, there were no jet bridges in all airport in the world to begin with when the aviation industry was just starting to flourish. Infact, the current Qatar airport looks and has the amenities of world class facilities INSIDE and their services. They don't have jet bridges. There is really "NO ESPECIFIC GUIDELINES" on how an airport terminal should look like and what it has, however, immigrations officers and counters, together with passport control areas whether you have a booth or no is necessary to process an international traveler.
Sleepwalker April 24th, 2009, 02:18 AM Not to mention that their staff and the MCIAA Board of Directors are old... fashioned! :lol:
:lol::lol::lol:
And the immigration officers should also looks respectable and decent.
I dont know, maybe it is just me...Each time I go home, I always observed that most, if not all, of the immigration officers looks untidy and tired...Wala'y ka-poise poise.
Sorry for the endless ranting about MCIA...This facility really needs an immediate upgrade.
mwg12a April 24th, 2009, 04:57 AM ^^^^ Maybe they have shortage in qualified personnel and they are underpaid, that's why they can't afford to pay for another uniform, buy soap and shampoo to take a bath and then they are forced to work 12 hour shift..he he
BULLDOG April 26th, 2009, 06:17 PM Total renovation ang kailangan dyan dahil sayang ang land area para sa isang makalumang airport na dapat nauna pang pagandahin kaysa ibang airports na di naman gaanong maraming flights at purely domestic lang ang gamit.:ohno::ohno::ohno:
mwg12a April 26th, 2009, 10:48 PM Well there are already plans bulldog, redtape or something is what is causing the delay. Maybe Governor Garcia needs to look into it much closer. I don't know Cebu hosted an ASEAN meet in the past, that should have been noticed already.
habagatcentral1 April 26th, 2009, 10:52 PM I was even thinking that the budget for the controversial lamp posts could have been diverted to terminal rennovation as well...it did cost millions of pesos too.
Sleepwalker April 27th, 2009, 02:55 AM Hahay....For a change, at least they could just upgrade the immigration official's desk, teach the immigration officials how to iron their uniform properly(para di lousy tan-awon) and put more digital signage instead of stickers and banners.
And for every Juan de la Cruz's sake, please let us torture those corrupt officials.
habagatcentral1 April 27th, 2009, 02:58 AM ^^ Sige, tara. Unsa'y best na pamaagi para itorture ang mga opisyales? Hehehe!!! Ready sad ko...:D
Sleepwalker April 27th, 2009, 04:01 AM Nah, I have a thousand and one ways of torturing corrupt officials, but IMO, Hammurabi's "a tooth for a tooth" code is more effective for these kind of people.
OT lang gamay... :)
Wind Shear April 27th, 2009, 09:55 AM Nah, I have a thousand and one ways of torturing corrupt officials, but IMO, Hammurabi's "a tooth for a tooth" code is more effective for these kind of people.
OT lang gamay... :)
Hehehe... before we torture those SOBs, let's read the US Army's field manual on interrogation (FM 32-42) so we can extract information. :D
arianespace April 28th, 2009, 02:41 AM Gitikon:colgate:
papable April 29th, 2009, 08:17 AM force them to join fear factor, without the tv coverage.
buknit April 29th, 2009, 11:15 AM kanus-a mag sugod ang expansion sa cebu airport? old na jud cya tan awon. hasta ang monitor old na jud kau... kinahanglan na gyud bag-ohon. na unhan pa nuon ang mcia sa iloilo...
habagatcentral1 April 29th, 2009, 12:06 PM force them to join fear factor, without the tv coverage.
Ah...mas nindot if naa tv coverage para naa humiliation sa ila, haha!!! :lol:
Anyway, what was MCIAA during Adilberto Yap's time? If he is still the manager of the said agency then what will happen to the airport? Could the administration offices of the airport be moved out of the airport thus giving more space to the terminal?
kanus-a mag sugod ang expansion sa cebu airport? old na jud cya tan awon. hasta ang monitor old na jud kau... kinahanglan na gyud bag-ohon. na unhan pa nuon ang mcia sa iloilo...
But remember that Cebu's facility was already spanking brand new in 1994 while Iloilo was still like any other rickety provincial airport at that time. ;) Iloilo deserved a new airport because of safety reasons and the fact that it feels like "standing room only" during peak hours. I can still remember Mactan's transformation from its old terminal to the new terminal that we see now.
I think maintenance, some facelifting and expansion is necessary for Mactan to be competitive, most especially that Cebu is projecting an image as a "business and leisure metropolis," much like Orlando and the likes. I hope this would pushed through....di na ko mag-usar og "realize" kay dugay na ni narealize sa mga politico ta diha sa MCIA.
Sleepwalker April 30th, 2009, 05:16 AM kanus-a mag sugod ang expansion sa cebu airport? old na jud cya tan awon. hasta ang monitor old na jud kau... kinahanglan na gyud bag-ohon. na unhan pa nuon ang mcia sa iloilo...
Iloilo, Bacolod, CDO and the rest of the airports deserves to be upgraded too...Yep, you are right, naunhan hinoon ta, it is because MCIA admin is more on blabbering than action...They are more on visions without actions...:bash:
For me, it does not matter who got it first or who deserves it...All of the key cities in Philippines badly needs upgraded airports comparable to our neighbours... :)
mwg12a April 30th, 2009, 05:22 AM Yep, I want to visit Cebu soon, I need to be greeted in a newly renovated (atleast) airport if not a new terminal building all together. He he Feeling datua ko no?
kalbongdad April 30th, 2009, 03:45 PM hindi masyado...:lol:
AmbutLang May 1st, 2009, 07:46 AM Yep, I want to visit Cebu soon, I need to be greeted in a newly renovated (atleast) airport if not a new terminal building all together. He he Feeling datua ko no?
^^Which band do you want to meet you at the airport? A University band or banda sa simbahan. :lol: :jk:
Why don't the MCIA immigration counters copy the setup of JFK immigration counters by adding another row behind the existing one. JFK has 42 counters on terminal 6 alone.
mwg12a May 1st, 2009, 03:58 PM Wag naman banda sa simbahan. I think you want me dead ambutlang. LMAO
MCIA and even NAIA 1 and 2 needs two rows of immigration counters. I think at one time Detroit has two rows as well.
habagatcentral1 May 1st, 2009, 03:59 PM ^^Which band do you want to meet you at the airport? A University band or banda sa simbahan. :lol: :jk:
Why don't the MCIA immigration counters copy the setup of JFK immigration counters by adding another row behind the existing one. JFK has 42 counters on terminal 6 alone.
If ako, pwedeng San Diego Sinulog drum beaters? Hehehe!! :D
Sorry for the OT. :D
mwg12a May 1st, 2009, 04:03 PM PAng ati atihan band ka bagay Your majesty the king. Anone would go with you in the front line. LMAO
AmbutLang May 1st, 2009, 10:59 PM PAng ati atihan band ka bagay Your majesty the king. Anone would go with you in the front line. LMAO
Kilala namin ang mayari nang University of Cebu at close friend din ang anak si Candice sa pamangkin kong babae. O ano UC band sasalubong sa iyo pag dating mo sa Mactan. :lol:
MCIA offices occupied about 1/4 of the terminal space which could be used as predeparture kiosk. :nuts:
mwg12a May 2nd, 2009, 02:36 AM ^^^^ I think that is part of the planned expansion before, those offices would be removed and will be transfered to the business office building whose construction has been put on hold, if those weren't put on hold, those office spaces will make up the expansion to give way to more spaces for the time being until MCIA authorities can start building the planned terminal 2.
UC band would work Mr Ambutlang. Just not the one from the church, parang funenaria and dating ko, at ilagay ako sa cabaong hila hila ng purlon..He he
manila_eye May 2nd, 2009, 04:00 AM i still stand for my proposal that cebu airport should leave mactan and put it somewhere else. if they plan to put another runway in mactan it might destroy the island as it is one of the premiere islands in this country.
mwg12a May 2nd, 2009, 04:26 AM Like where??? That current location is the ideal location for MCIA. It still has a lot of room for improvement. As far as secondary runway, it is still far for MCIA to worry about that. It seems that the current space may possible accomodate a secondary runway, if not, just what and how Macau airport is done, a reclaimation was done for the runway. The Cebuanos together with a professional engineers and such would know where they need their airport should be built.
manila_eye May 2nd, 2009, 04:35 AM Like where??? That current location is the ideal location for MCIA. It still has a lot of room for improvement. As far as secondary runway, it is still far for MCIA to worry about that. It seems that the current space may possible accomodate a secondary runway, if not, just what and how Macau airport is done, a reclaimation was done for the runway. The Cebuanos together with a professional engineers and such would know where they need their airport should be built.
some cebuanos posted possible locations here before. reclamation would temporarily ruin the beaches around mactan. it would definitely turn off tourists.
mwg12a May 2nd, 2009, 05:17 AM Yes, they did. Most of them are either impossible and too far from the City proper, that would be costly because they have to build roads just for the terminal building. I think it will also be unwise because most of the well established resorts are in Mactan so, if the travel time to Cebu city is 2 to 3 hours and then another 1 hour to Mactan resorts, that would be too much especially for the business people and the tourists.
Someone also suggested here before that the current site is wide enough to accomodate a secondary runaway but that probably would require moving the current runway a one move over closer to the taxi ways and build the second one parallel to it. Who knows, let's wait and see. MCIA hasn't reached 10 million yet and if you would base it to the old HK airport, it was about 32M passenger yearly back then and they were using just a single runway.
Wind Shear May 2nd, 2009, 10:12 AM My proposal on airport expansion. Transfer the air base to Camotes Island. There's an air strip in the said island.
There are currently four air strips in Cebu Province alone. Sta. Fe in Bantayan, Camotes Island, Toledo City, and Argao.
habagatcentral1 May 2nd, 2009, 10:14 AM ^^ Hmmm..don't you think that would be too much of a hassle not just for businessmen and for tourists but for Cebuanos as well? I mean for the Camotes proposal.
Wind Shear May 2nd, 2009, 10:16 AM ^^ Hmmm..don't you think that would be too much of a hassle not just for businessmen and for tourists but for Cebuanos as well? I mean for the Camotes proposal.
No. I mean, transfer the air base (as in Philippine Air Force, for those who didn't get the drift) to Camotes Island so the MCIAA will be given a free wheel on airport expansion.
And oh, the general aviation operations (especially taking flight lessons) should be transfered to Bantayan Airstrip or Argao Airstrip. At least the cross-country flights will be less costly. :D
habagatcentral1 May 2nd, 2009, 10:18 AM ^^ Ah ok. I stand corrected...yeah, the military can tolerate that kind of a hassle...:nuts: So I guess its ok for them, hehe! :D
Sleepwalker May 2nd, 2009, 03:16 PM OT lang.
Though i do not regret voting for GMA, however, if the MCIA expansion would push through within her term, I am worried that she will put MCIA under her Macapagal Group of Companies, and would eventually rename the airport from Mactan-Cebu International Airport to Macapagal-Radaza Airport.
AmbutLang May 2nd, 2009, 08:10 PM If that will happen of the name change of the MCIA airport :bash: :bash: :bash:, I will move to Davao or stay in Durham, North Carolina a small quite city. The houses are cheap here now. NYC or in the Tri-State Area is good for young people and make some money. I am done working for a living.
mwg12a May 2nd, 2009, 09:15 PM God, that would be freaky!!! LMAO. I don't think that would ever happen although not all impossible. The Macapagals are not from Cebu so that is less likely to happen.
Wait, what do you exactly mean by Macapagal Group of Companies? The Arroyos are monopolizing the aviation industry in favor of them and their personal interest?
Sleepwalker May 3rd, 2009, 02:13 AM God, that would be freaky!!! LMAO. I don't think that would ever happen although not all impossible. The Macapagals are not from Cebu so that is less likely to happen.
Wait, what do you exactly mean by Macapagal Group of Companies? The Arroyos are monopolizing the aviation industry in favor of them and their personal interest?
Just kidding...I just learned recently from a post at Cebu City and Province, that the newly built Danao City fishing port has been named Macapal, este Macapagal-Durano Fish Port...Do they own the fish port? Knowing that PGMA has been so keen on glorifying her father's name by naming some projects after her father, I wonder if what could be the name of MCIA if it will be upgraded within her term? DMIA-Cebu Branch? Or Macapagal-Radaza International Airport?
Radaza is the mayor of Lapu-Lapu City.
Hahay!!!
habagatcentral1 May 3rd, 2009, 02:17 AM ^^ Speaking of Radaza, is he an Arroyo ally? Sorry for the OT.
Sleepwalker May 3rd, 2009, 02:21 AM I think so.
Sky Harbor May 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM I saw on TV Patrol Central Visayas that health checklist forms will now be given to all arriving international passengers going through MCIA. I wonder if this will either be a successful deterrent or just additional hassle.
AmbutLang May 3rd, 2009, 11:16 PM Is MCIA doing a thermal scan to all arriving passengers domestic especially the international passenger? Major airports in the U.S. and Hongkong are doing them now. They already quarantined some passengers.:ohno:
dabert May 4th, 2009, 02:03 AM Yes, as what I have seen in TV Patrol, but i guess only for international passengers.
swahi May 4th, 2009, 02:52 AM everyone is talking of the need to expand the terminal building. How about outside the terminal? When the flights arrive, the guards will control the number of vehicles that come in and park to pick up passengers, to the point where the car line being held and waiting to enter the arrival area is long. Last night at around 7-730pm, the car line was already beyond the abandoned/unfinished administration building. Prior to that, these cars where DOUBLE PARKED at the side of Waterfront Hotel, as in they were already 2 lines waiting for their cue to be allowed into the arrival area. Even the departure unloading area, there was traffic buildup on both sides (with the unloading zone in the middle). How do you expand, as there is waterfront hotel already that limits expanding these areas (loading/unloading zone in the arrival/departure area), and the access road between waterfront and the open parking area?
habagatcentral1 May 4th, 2009, 04:36 AM ^^ How about taking over a part of the very spacious Benito Ebuen Air Base?
MatudNilaBaby May 4th, 2009, 04:36 AM everyone is talking of the need to expand the terminal building. How about outside the terminal? When the flights arrive, the guards will control the number of vehicles that come in and park to pick up passengers, to the point where the car line being held and waiting to enter the arrival area is long. Last night at around 7-730pm, the car line was already beyond the abandoned/unfinished administration building. Prior to that, these cars where DOUBLE PARKED at the side of Waterfront Hotel, as in they were already 2 lines waiting for their cue to be allowed into the arrival area. Even the departure unloading area, there was traffic buildup on both sides (with the unloading zone in the middle). How do you expand, as there is waterfront hotel already that limits expanding these areas (loading/unloading zone in the arrival/departure area), and the access road between waterfront and the open parking area?
have u heard about subterranean garages or parking structures?
swahi May 4th, 2009, 04:57 AM i know about basement parking spaces, duh. How do you propose, pray tell, to dig under the existing terminal or under waterfront without compromising the existing structure, and on a reasonable cost? That still doesnt address the issue I mentioned of the loading/unloading area now overflowing, causing a backlog on cars being withheld entry into such area.
MatudNilaBaby May 4th, 2009, 05:38 AM i know about basement parking spaces, duh. How do you propose, pray tell, to dig under the existing terminal or under waterfront without compromising the existing structure, and on a reasonable cost? That still doesnt address the issue I mentioned of the loading/unloading area now overflowing, causing a backlog on cars being withheld entry into such area.
drop off and parking area must be one or two blocks away from the airport unya mag cable car nalang sila padulong sa mcia. or bullet train pa pareho sa disneyland or noon a mile long escalator.:lol: ka futuristic sab ani oy lupig paman ang star strek ani nga idea.
demented_pigeon May 4th, 2009, 03:07 PM Just kidding...I just learned recently from a post at Cebu City and Province, that the newly built Danao City fishing port has been named Macapal, este Macapagal-Durano Fish Port...Do they own the fish port? Knowing that PGMA has been so keen on glorifying her father's name by naming some projects after her father, I wonder if what could be the name of MCIA if it will be upgraded within her term? DMIA-Cebu Branch? Or Macapagal-Radaza International Airport?
Radaza is the mayor of Lapu-Lapu City.
Hahay!!!
Are you hallucinating!!!!????
no it won't be renamed to macapagal-radaza airport, geez...
... it will still depend who wins the elections for president and mayor. hehe
demented_pigeon May 4th, 2009, 03:08 PM ^^ Speaking of Radaza, is he an Arroyo ally? Sorry for the OT.
i think almost all the politicians in cebu are allied with GMA.
wise_zech May 4th, 2009, 03:26 PM mas maau kung ibalhin ang airport did2 sa may cordova mag gawa sila og bag-ong airport nga 2 runways......ako lang na idea ha.....
mwg12a May 5th, 2009, 02:26 AM ^^^^ They still don't need a secondary runway yet wise_zech but it would be nice if there is a space reserved for it once the need for a secondary runway is really a must.
@swahi -- Wouldn't it be due to the amount of passengers needing to get in the terminal building that caused the congestion of the traffic as well? Was thinking if that actually the cause of that mess, when the terminal is expanded, the traffic would run smoothly after that, cars should not be allowed to stay longer than is expected when they drop off their passengers.
swahi May 5th, 2009, 02:36 AM ^^
There was buildup at the departure area, but you can access the terminal. It was not as bad as the time I had to run to the terminal after passing the ramp going up to the departure area of T2 in Manila when the traffic was at a standstill. The traffic that I mentioned is the one going to the arrival area. The guards hold the cars that enter the arrival area due to limited loading space for cars. The guards will even ask what flight is the arriving passenger, and if they have not received info if that flight has arrived, they will divert that car towards the departure area and not allow it to go into the arrival area. That's one car at a time, and with multiple flights arriving, it causes the traffic I mentioned. Its a single lane entry into the arrival area at that guard control section for private cars. There is another lane but exclusively for car rentals, hotel service vehicles.
mwg12a May 5th, 2009, 02:44 AM oh I see, it's the arriving passengers that filled up the arrival section, some of them do take a little while since loading luggages takes a bit longer since half of the time the greeters would chit chat with the arriving passengers alot of time. he he
Well, there is a need for expansion and terminal two so I'm sure the road problem would be addressed.
I can't remember if there is some space left to widenned the drive through infront of the departure lobby but as far as I can remember, there is no room left down at the arrival section except pass the actual building, maybe that part where it can be widenned should be dedicated to the arriving passengers where the vehicles of those who would be picking up the passengers can just go to that end can just park there and the passengers can push their carts to that end and load their luggages if there are luggages to load.
AmbutLang May 5th, 2009, 10:47 PM Mauy nakabati midyo ang arrival passengers ug ang mga sakyanan magduguk man sa tunga diha gyud sa pultahan, dili gyud mo spread out aron ma utilized the who arrival area. Usa pud ang pagmandar mga sakyanan sa polis aron mahapsay ang pag pick up sa mga pasahero. Unya mao rapud ang agiaanan sa arrival para sa domestic. :bash:
I think it is time to have another terminal building kung sige ka traffic kada adlaw diha sa arrival. Maapiktuhan baya ang departure sab, international and domestic.
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