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Mactan-Cebu International Airport (IATA airport code: CEB, ICAO airport code: RPVM) is the major airport of the Visayas region of the Philippines. It is located in Lapu-Lapu City, Mactan Island, near Cebu City. The airport is also the only international airport in the entire Visayas region. A first class hotel -- Waterfront Mactan Airport Hotel -- sits right in front of the airport terminal. A new international terminal worth P1 Billion will be constructed starting 2006 and will be completed in four years after which the existing 15 year old terminal, which houses the domestic and international wings and has a capacity of 2 million passengers, will be purely devoted for domestic use. Also, the current four aerobridges or tubes on the existing terminal will be upgraded and added with two more bringing it to a total of six. All of these improvements were bared by the airport's general manager Adelberto Yap in light of the increasing international and domestic flights to Cebu. The improvements are also meant to augment Cebu's goal of attracting five million tourists per year by 2010.

The airport opened in the mid-1960s. It was built to replace Lahug Airport, which could not be expanded due to safety and physical problems. The airport was then expanded in its later years to become the current Mactan-Cebu International Airport. The airport is currently the second busiest in the country after Manila's NAIA-1 and NAIA-2 and serves as the country's primary alternative gateway.

On December 11, 1994, Philippine Airlines Flight 434 was flying on its second leg of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport - Mactan-Cebu International Airport - New Tokyo International Airport (now Narita International Airport) route when a bomb on board exploded, killing a passenger. The airliner was able to make an emergency landing. Authorities later found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb on the airliner to test the bomb for his Project Bojinka plot. His project was discovered in Manila after an apartment fire on the night of January 5 and the morning of January 6, 1995.

The following airlines serve the Mactan-Cebu International Airport (as of January 2006):

Domestic Wing

Air Philippines (Bacolod, Davao, General Santos, Iloilo, Manila, Zamboanga, Puerto Princesa)
Asian Spirit (Cagayan de Oro, Caticlan, Surigao, Tandag)
Cebu Pacific (Davao, Iloilo, Manila, Zamboanga)
Philippine Airlines (Manila)
South East Asian Airlines (Bantayan (seasonal), Camiguin, Caticlan, Cotabato, Siargao)

International Wing

Asiana Airlines (Seoul-Incheon)
Cathay Pacific (Hong Kong)
Cebu Pacific (Seoul-Incheon, Busan)
Korean Air (Seoul-Incheon)
Malaysia Airlines (Kuala Lumpur, Kota Kinabalu)
Mandarin Airlines (Taipei-Chiang Kai Shek)
Philippine Airlines (Seoul-Incheon, Tokyo-Narita)
Qatar Airways (Doha, Singapore)
Silkair (Singapore)

AIRPORT PARTICULARS

RUNWAY PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS

Runway Designation: 04/22
Strength and Surface of Runway: Asphalt Cement Concrete PCN 70 F/B/W/T
Dimension of Runway: 3,300m x 45m
Stopway Dimensions: RWY04-305m RWY22-60m
Slope of Runway-Stopway: NIL-NIL CWY Dimensions:RWY04-485m RWY22-60m
Apron Strength: PCN 66 R/B/W/T
Taxiway Strength and Width: 44m; PCN 70 F/B/W/T

AIRWAYS NAVIGATION SERVICE EQUIPMENT

1. Doppler Very High Frequency Omni-Range Beacon (DVOR)

2. Distance Measuring Equipment (DME)

3. Instrument Landing System (ILS)

4. Non-Directional Beacon (NDB)

5. Air Route Surveillance Radar(ARSR)

6. Tower/FSS/APP/GND/Sub-ACC/FOBS/ATIS Communications

7. Precision Approach Path Indicators (PAPI)

8. Airfield Lighting System (ALS)

9. Meteorological Equipment (MET)

^^ its been three years since i last set foot on that airport :cry: i wanna go home.......hehe

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pix by huistenmark

At last, a thread for MCIAA. :applause:

From MCIAA Website [Click Here (http://www.mactan-cebuairport.com.ph/index.php)]:

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Showing her age:

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History
It started operations in the mid 1960's as the replacement of the Lahug Airport which was situated within Cebu City and had no more room for expansion due to safety and physical constraints. It was then expanded and further developed to be truly deserving to its name - Mactan( Cebu ) International Airport.

Google:

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Aerials:

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Markii, where's the Terminal 2 supposed to be located in that aerial pic? ^^

^^ i have no idea bai. but prolly on the right side of the current terminal.

Good job Cokelitro and Markiiboi, I love cebu and i've only been there a couple of times.

MCIAA just need good maintenance, like keeping the exterior paint looking fresh and clean. The same thing in the interior touch up the wall paints, keep it clean and in top shape, replace the chairs in the the predeparture area. I hope they are already starting with those additional contact bridges.

^^ Hopefully they can do that before december comes, Or else... :D

Out of curiousity, what happened to the Lahug Airport?

^^ its now an IT park, the asiatown, where peoplesupport, etelecare, spi, globe etc. hold their cebu hubs. i dunno if kasali pati ang waterfront hotel, but i know the IT park is the old lahug airport.

^^I think that's the fate of most old airports. Like the runways of Nielson Field which are now Ayala Ave and Pase de Roxas and Lahug Airport which is now our IT Park. And I believe there are plans to develop the old Bacolod and Ilo-Ilo airports into business centers also...

Ayala:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1756/ayalaav6qh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lahug, now IT Park:
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4415/itpark7gn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Is there any rendering for the expansion of Mactan IA? Is there any new terminal to be built?

^^ They said last January that they are still on the design stage and it wil take them like 6 to 8 months to finish it.

How many gates will the new terminal will have?

^^ unfortunely bai no info avilable yet...

Okay, I hope as many as 20 gates if they're going to upgrade Cebu city to special status.

^^ hahaha i hope so but i guess thats just too big. i wonder who the architect is. it would be really nice if its SMO, the designer of NAIA T3 and other international airports like Changi, JFK, SFO, HK and Logan. but i guess local archi ra ila gi hire.

^^ Actually its better if we start off with a bigger airport. Cebu City's international air traffic is expected to increase in direct proportion with its economic growth. Planning should be done 20 years from now. Second, it will appear to both local and foreign investors that Cebu city is seriously targeting them by offering expansive and top-notched infrastructure.

^^ Everything will depend on the honchos of the airport bai. But who knows, maybe they really are planning of something big for the airport. But this one remains to be seen, hopefully sooner...

btw the architectural firm is SOM, not SMO;) I hope they release more info and renderings on the airport expansion:)

hope the new terminal would be glassy and modern just like San Francisco Int'l Airport...

is that the new airport? i thought it was renovated>?

^^ that's our only airport bai. not new nor renovated.

The NAIA and the Mactan-Cebu International Airport are the only earning international airports in the country. Mactan may be the only airport in the country with a runway capable of accommodating superjumbo, the Airbus 380 and other new generation aircraft.

I'm pretty sure the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport can also accomodate the Airbus A380.

The NAIA and the Mactan-Cebu International Airport are the only earning international airports in the country. Mactan may be the only airport in the country with a runway capable of accommodating superjumbo, the Airbus 380 and other new generation aircraft.


There was a news report last year and this has been discussed in a previous thread even last year that NAIA wouldn't have a problem landing a huge A380 in that main runway, the taxiway would be the main problem and the terminal itself because of the wider wingspan of the said aircraft, look at the runway configurations of all Philippine international airports. So, literally, all runways in the Philippines can accomodate, they just need a place to park it (disembark/embark passengers) and the other airplanes hs to stop in the taxiway to give way with A380.

^^i actually got that assessment from the former manager of the MCIA last year. btw, i heard Boeing's version doesn't need a runway upgrade as opposed to Airbus' daw. IMO, Boeing is giving us the impression that their jumbo planes can land in any operational international airport. and they claim this is their edge over Airbus 380s. can anyone enlighten us on this? thanks!

actually the new Boeing planes are not really "jumbos" compared to the A380 that's why they dont really need those runway upgrades.

Out of curiousity, what happened to the Lahug Airport?


The runway of the old lahug airport is now the main avenue of AsiaTown.. Hehehehe.. Here it is:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/IMG_1324.jpg

And here's an aerial of the Asiatown which was once the Lahug Airport.
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And yup kasali yung site of the Waterfront Hotel. I remembered before it was constructed, the runway lights (those that look like a fork) were still there.. I remembered too before meron pa yung Tower.. The late Senator Fernan landed here when he ran for Vice-President during the 1992 elections. I should have taken pics as remembrance but then again I was still seven years old during that time...

The Taxiways of the MCIAA are fairly wide enough for an A380.

Here are some aerials from http://www.philskies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=64746..
Kudos to WindShear for giving me this link in another forum.

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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/MCIAA_Aerial.jpg

By the way the hangars for private planes and charter planes are called General Aviation Area (Gen Av). I've been there twice.

Slerz,

a budget was appropriated for the facelifting of the airport. Could it mean that this ugly concrete facade would be covered with aluminum cladding?

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^^ The airport looks more like a strip mall from the outside.

based from the pictures its a real busy airport

^^ it sure is with 520 commercial flights weekly , an average of 151 daily aircraft operations (landings and take-offs) transporting 7,613 passengers daily.

Why do airports in the Phillippines only have like 1 or 2 runways.
Even DMIA only has 2 runways.

Minneapolis, with 2.5 million people in the metro has 4 runways and it's already getting busy enough for them to make a new, 5th runway.

^^ simple... because airports in the philippines is not as busy as atlanta... :D

^^and United States is United States and the Philippines is the Philippines. Compare the two :D

Minneapolis is a hub, right? So thats why its quite busy and needs a lot of runways. There are no airports in the Philippines that act as a regional/international hub.

P400M plans for airport
improvement bared

Published: 25 March 2006
by Cebu Daily News

WIDER airport parking space for jets to be used by heads of state. Spruced up VIP lounges, asphalt roads and landscaping at the Mactan airport. One-way mirrors to shield the sight of heavily armed security forces.

These are part of P400 million worth of infrastructure improvements being proposed for the ASEAN Summit in Cebu this December. Most will go to improvements in airport facilities and roads.

Whether a sufficient budget will be released by the national government, however, is "subject to discussion".

The plans were presented yesterday at the Capitol in a briefing with Consul General Marciano Paynor, who assured that Cebu would be the venue of the summit, not Manila.
"Right now, there is no doubt in my mind, or the President's mind that it will be held here," he said.
"We are glad now where we are, considering that three months ago there was nothing in the horizon. So instead of areas of concern, I'd say (we have) milestones of achievement."

Paynor, presidential adviser on state and foreign visits , heard presentations from airport manager Adelberto Yap of the Mactan-Cebu International Airport, the Department of Public Works and Development and other members of the Cebu Organizing Committee which is co-chaired by Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia.

Two hectares will be added to the airport runway to accommodate two 747 jets that Japan plans to use during the summit.

Total airport preparation costs will reach P105 million, including the purchase of P5-million air-conditioned VIP buses to ferry passengers from the ramp to the airport building.

Asphalting of arrival and departure areas, and landscaping are also being proposed at the airport along with neon-lighted signages following international standards to guide aircraft and passenger traffic.

Paynor said he was satisfied with the status of preparations.

"At a stage like this, we are concerned with every minute detail because we are just starting but in varying degrees."

"The President has already made the decision that the summit will be held here. When we said in the past that the summit will be held in Manila (as backup plan), that is the last (option) in order to fulfill the plan," Paynor told reporters.

Tighter airport security will mean additional officers but many of the heavily armed security men will be positioned behind a one-way mirror. Paynor said less visibility of heavily armed men is needed to avoid creating a bad impression about Cebu's peace and order.

Asked about the availability of a budget, Paynor said this will have to be deliberated by the committee first.

The DPWH Regional office presented a plan for P278.1 million worth of improvements. Nine road sections will be improved in the cities of Cebu, Lapu-Lapu, and Mandaue.

The Provincial Government will soon start building a P270-million Cebu International Convention Center as the summit venue.Nevertheless, Paynor said alternate conference sites are being eyed as backup such as the Waterfront Hotel in Cebu City or the Shangri-la Mactan Island Resort in Lapu-Lapu City.

Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, COC co-chairman, maintained that the building would be finished in time.

"You can expect the CICC at the time that it will be needed," she said.

The governor said the work schedule was "very realistic" from the point of view of engineers, architects and herself.

^^ Nice:)

I dunno if i missed it, but have they paved the pot-hole ridden runway?

^^ Yes, about late last year.

^ Ok, cool:)

Any rendering yet on that MCIA modernization?

None yet.

^^ it sure is with 520 commercial flights weekly , an average of 151 daily aircraft operations (landings and take-offs) transporting 7,613 passengers daily.

wow, busy indeed :okay:

kakainggit cebu... fresh projects in time for ASEAN...

Kung sa Manila ginanap, ok sana Terminal 3 as a grand welcome. Speaking of which, only a few international airlines fly to cebu.... now they would most likely use MNL as a transit point enroute to CEB. Am worried about transfer services from NAIA T1, T2 and T3(if ever) to the Manila Domestic Terminal. May shuttles na ba in place as we speak?

i hope the airport would look grand even if it is small..

^^
I think they have their own private jets that will go straight to Cebu.. Maybe the other delegates (whoever they are?? :) ) .. but they might fly via Hong Kong/Singapore so no need to pass by chaotic NAIA. . . :)

I read a news article that Japanese inspectors went to Cebu and their doubts were 'erased' after seeing the MCIA (they were 'satisfied').... I hope others felt the same way. :)


i hope the airport would look grand even if it is small..

i hope the airport would look grand even if it is small..


Well the Japanese inspecting team were easily impressed sans the renovation and recent developments. so hopefully it can provide the visiting delegates with the basics of an international airport minus a modern terminal..

I think MSP is a hub???

Why do airports in the Phillippines only have like 1 or 2 runways.
Even DMIA only has 2 runways.

Minneapolis, with 2.5 million people in the metro has 4 runways and it's already getting busy enough for them to make a new, 5th runway.

^^
I think they have their own private jets that will go straight to Cebu.. Maybe the other delegates (whoever they are?? :) ) .. but they might fly via Hong Kong/Singapore so no need to pass by chaotic NAIA. . . :)

Yes i think they do. And an area is already on the rehab works to serve as a parking space for the 2 747's of the Jap delegates and the rest of the visiting jets.

and i think this is the parking area:

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1894/mcia5acopy3od.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wow... so the airport is ok.. i hope they would still find a way to make the whole city of cebu an impressive one..

^^ not just cebu city, but more on mandaue city and lapu lapu city.

^^
Cebu is already impressive to many foreigners, I dunno with our fellow Filipinos, they are the ones who always have doubts.

kakainggit cebu... fresh projects in time for ASEAN...

Kung sa Manila ginanap, ok sana Terminal 3 as a grand welcome. Speaking of which, only a few international airlines fly to cebu.... now they would most likely use MNL as a transit point enroute to CEB. Am worried about transfer services from NAIA T1, T2 and T3(if ever) to the Manila Domestic Terminal. May shuttles na ba in place as we speak?

i think only the Manila delegates will use the manila domestic terminal. The head of states won't use manila airports because they have their own planes .

^^
Cebu is already impressive to many foreigners, I dunno with our fellow Filipinos, they are the ones who always have doubts.

Cebu is still impressive to me eventhough our airport is quite old already that's why foreigners see Cebu as a city that is not so modern when they see the airport terminal but then when they step out of the terminal they can sense that Cebu is better than they've expected. And that demolishes a saying "first impressions last" in Cebu's case :)

when i went home i think apr 2000, i 'member seeing Northwest Airlines in Mactan, what happened to it?

Im sorry, I maybe slow (hehe), you mean a NWA aircraft in the tarmac?

when i went home i think apr 2000, i 'member seeing Northwest Airlines in Mactan, what happened to it?

Cebu is still impressive to me eventhough our airport is quite old already that's why foreigners see Cebu as a city that is not so modern when they see the airport terminal but then when they step out of the terminal they can sense that Cebu is better than they've expected. And that demolishes a saying "first impressions last" in Cebu's case :)

Yeah, but it needed at least a 20-gate terminal addition to the existing Mactan Intl airport to handle the ever-increasing traffic for tourists and businesses. How can Cebu attract more international carriers if they are not seriously considering in getting a bigger and better international airport.

I agree with slerz, the Mactan international airport is still impressive.

Also, just imagine too if Mactan International airport gets Cebu Pacific and other international carrier's attention to be the main hub for their future international flights from Mindanao and Visayas to Asia, Australia, SEA, Middle East and even Europe. It will decrease the load from NAIA handling passengers from Luzon.

Im sorry, I maybe slow (hehe), you mean a NWA aircraft in the tarmac?
tarlac!!!

okey, I shouldn't have taken it seriously then, :weirdo:

tarlac!!!

Also, just imagine too if Mactan International airport gets Cebu Pacific and other international carrier's attention to be the main hub for their future international flights from Mindanao and Visayas to Asia, Australia, SEA, Middle East and even Europe. It will decrease the load from NAIA handling passengers from Luzon.


The airport officials have the figures and stats of an increasing pax and cargo traffic that pushes the current terminal to its limits. That's why they are stressing the importance of a much-needed new larger terminal. Believe me, they are doing something. But they can only do so much if there are a lot oppositions to their plans [remember the imperial cebu tag during the RDC confab?] and if the government is not willing to help.

Yeah, but it needed at least a 20-gate terminal addition to the existing Mactan Intl airport to handle the ever-increasing traffic for tourists and businesses. How can Cebu attract more international carriers if they are not seriously considering in getting a bigger and better international airport.

And who said MCIA is not seriously considering in getting a bigger and better international airport? If you ask MCIA manager Adelberto Yap, he wants MCIA to become as modern as Bangkok or HongKong airport.

Still impressive today, I said but it doesn't mean getting a bigger and better International airport should not be a priority coz it's still impressive! nah... Still impressive but should be improved as soon as possible. It's every Cebuanos aim, to have a better airport.

^^ Yeah, its impressive but it needs to expand not just to improve. I'm pretty sure they're working on it.

^^yes, not just improving but also expanding ;)

Yeah, but it needed at least a 20-gate terminal addition to the existing Mactan Intl airport to handle the ever-increasing traffic for tourists and businesses. How can Cebu attract more international carriers if they are not seriously considering in getting a bigger and better international airport.


How did you know that MCIA would need 20 gates already? Considering that the passenger activities to date is 2.7million passenger a year as of 2005 combined domestic and international statistics. They do need to expand somehow if it is warranted in todays need but it should not be that drastic, they just need to plan or design a terminal/airport that has enough space for more future expansions. Why build an airport that will be half empty for some period of time? It will just cost a big amount of money and be in debt when there will be no enough revenues to pay a loan and even maintain it. I think MNL airport international passenger activities are reaching almost 10Mil per year in combined T1&T2 not accounting the domestic activities yet so they do need a bigger terminal building but that is because MNL and surrounding areas have 3 times bigger population that Cebu area then Bohol is building it's own International gateway I think. It will still take years for MCIA to reach a 15 million passenger mark to be needing a 20 something gates . I'm just making a point and is not being critical about this nor I'm picking a fight with anybody. I love Cebu myself. Cheers!!!!

i do believe that MCIA's expansion and improvement should be prioritized...

1. in preparation for the ASEAN Summit
2. in preparation for the influx of more tourists from its prime markets considering that,as of today, it has the most number of tourist arrivals and will continue to be so...
3. to attract more tourists from other markets where flights are not served directly by MCIA...

Qatar Airways lands in Hong Kong to unprecedented welcome


Hong Kong becomes Qatar Airways’ 12th Far East destination in a regional route network that already covers Osaka, Shanghai, Beijing, Seoul, Manila, Cebu, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Yangon and Jakarta. As part of the Hong Kong launch marketing campaign, Qatar Airways has embarked on a brand awareness drive across the city.

^^

Qatar Airways serves mostly the OFW market. I remembered when I arrived at the MCIA after a vacation in Manila, there were several OFWs from Luzon who made a transit in Cebu just to board Qatar Airways. Fully booked na siguro ang flights sa Manila.

The design of the airport is kinda old but it's still up and running..

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/mactan_airport.jpg

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^^ The facade still looks fine to me. :colgate: I'd rather have an efficient and functioning airport than one that's pleasing to the eyes but the service is like crap.

i do believe that MCIA's expansion and improvement should be prioritized...

1. in preparation for the ASEAN Summit
2. in preparation for the influx of more tourists from its prime markets considering that,l as fo today, it has the most number of tourist arrivals and will continue to be so...
3. to attract more tourists from other markets where flights are not served directly by MCIA...

Well said there.

^^ The facade still looks fine to me. :colgate: I'd rather have an efficient and functioning airport than one that's pleasing to the eyes but the service is like crap.


For me, I'd rather have an old airport that's fully functional [and safe] than a new airport whose ceiling caved in even though it is not in use. :hahaha:

^^ True! :lol:

have a close glance at the facade. it´s´full of dirt and sour rain rinsing down between the cement. on both sides of the terminal. not very impressive for a first view. a fresh coat of paint won´t cost THAT much......

have a close glance at the facade. it´s´full of dirt and sour rain rinsing down between the cement. on both sides of the terminal. not very impressive for a first view. a fresh coat of paint won´t cost THAT much......


That's right Richard, it's more or less lack of maintenance.

but it's not ideal for the terminal to be coated by only a paint. Cebu now is fasly becoming an International tourist destination but it's hard to think that MCIA management aren't maintaining the airport well. really? It's sad to think for us here who knows what the management is doing just to showcase Cebu as a tourism hub but then by the pic, it's just easy to judge that the airport is not maintained well. :(

but it's not ideal for the terminal to be coated by only a paint. Cebu now is fasly becoming an International tourist destination but it's hard to think that MCIA management aren't maintaining the airport well. really? It's sad to think for us here who knows what the management is doing just to showcase Cebu as a tourism hub but then by the pic, it's just easy to judge that the airport is not maintained well. :(

Yap said that the airport will undergo a facelift. let's see in december how it looks.

but it's not ideal for the terminal to be coated by only a paint. Cebu now is fasly becoming an International tourist destination but it's hard to think that MCIA management aren't maintaining the airport well. really? It's sad to think for us here who knows what the management is doing just to showcase Cebu as a tourism hub but then by the pic, it's just easy to judge that the airport is not maintained well. :(


well, around September last year, I was in Cebu for the second time and comparing to 3 years ago, it never changed, there are even seats that were broken, not alot but there are some visible ones in the check in and predeparture areas. The men's rest rooms are real tiny, somehow it seems a little bit clean but it is still smelly. The facade area just like 3 years ago needs some touch up painting as you can see just how Richard described it as "sour rain rinsing down the cement". The building looks like it is aging already, so, I am guessing that the maintenance must have been limited. I'm not saying it is totally neglected because it is not, maybe they have been limiting the budget to other main areas and leave out the peripheral problems like landscape maintenance, touch up painting and other extras that is being overlooked already.

well, I listen to almost all radio stations here in Cebu from morning till late night and General Manager Yap is often interviewed (almost everyday) and always say that the airport (DAW) is well maintained and so with the passengers say that it is (I dunno if they're saying the truth or maybe they're just covering?) and majority also said that Manager Yap is a deserving manager (including Rusty and Markiiboi) coz he had managed the airport very well and has done enough for the airpots maintenance. I do not visit the airport often but I've said that It's sad to think for us here who knows what the management is doing coz I can hear and see what is happenin in the airport everyday through the vigilant medias here in Cebu.

Oh, don't get me wrong I didn't say it was totally being neglected, it is just an okay looking but atleast the airport in general isn't dirty or anything. It just lacking maintenance in certain areas which may have been overlooked somehow. I think maybe Yap is doing well with safe and smooth passage of the passengers and making sure if something was pointed out to him, he would act on it right away.

^^ i agree with you diesel..

i think the management has done less in maintaining the airport.. i've been to the airport las december and i was dismayed by its condition.. if not for the big signage of the airport, one wouldn't think that he's entering an airport.. also, the interior needs a major renovation.. cebu needs a bigger and better airport since its the country's premiere tourist destination.. its the first thing the foreigners would be seeing upon arriving in cebu..

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4308/img03122yv6yi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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here are pics of MCIA i took last december

Oh, don't get me wrong I didn't say it was totally being neglected, it is just an okay looking but atleast the airport in general isn't dirty or anything. It just lacking maintenance in certain areas which may have been overlooked somehow. I think maybe Yap is doing well with safe and smooth passage of the passengers and making sure if something was pointed out to him, he would act on it right away.

ei, sorry. I was only stating what I heard sa Radio bai. I didn't oppose to what you said and infact I will forward your concern to ABS CBN tonight so that whenever it's true, patay sila ni Leo Lastimosa (Manager of ABS CBN Cebu radio). :D

Coz I heard kase Yap was interviewed one time that everyone can attest kuno that the airport is well maintained specially last October to December during the SEA Games that Cebu co-hosted but now when you said and also Sugbuanon that it's still not properly maintained, I will forward this concern to the media coz it's sad to note that we have a lot of tourists coming but then they are not mainatining the airport well contrary to what they said in their interviews. :)

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MCIA interior

With those pics, Yap should step down I must say...

ei, sorry. I was only stating what I heard sa Radio bai. I didn't oppose to what you said and infact I will forward your concern to ABS CBN tonight so that whenever it's true, patay sila ni Leo Lastimosa (Manager of ABS CBN Cebu radio). :D

Coz I heard kase Yap was interviewed one time that everyone can attest kuno that the airport is well maintained specially last October to December during the SEA Games that Cebu co-hosted but now when you said and also Sugbuanon that it's still not properly maintained, I will forward this concern to the media coz it's sad to note that we have a lot of tourists coming but then they are not mainatining the airport well contrary to what they said in their interviews. :)


thats a good idea slerz.. since im already in my 3rd [going 4th yr] as an architecture student, im very particular with the aesthetic of a building. we are taught by our teachers how to spot defects in the design and planning of a building.. in MCIA's case, it really needs a major facelift..

You know, when I went to Thailand and used Bangkok's airport, MCIA looks like the old Bangkok airport.

here's a little comparison:


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mcia looks more like gaisano country mall


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add a runway to our school building and it could replace mcia.. :D

have a close glance at the facade. it´s´full of dirt and sour rain rinsing down between the cement. on both sides of the terminal. not very impressive for a first view. a fresh coat of paint won´t cost THAT much......


No, no, not paint.... they should consider masking it with aluminum cladding!

The roof should also be replaced with glass so that natural light can come in. In this manner, the airport board can save on electricity bills!

You know, when I went to Thailand and used Bangkok's airport, MCIA looks like the old Bangkok airport.


Yup, yup... same with NAIA-I too... The only difference is that Bangkok airport's interior is well-maintained... But I saw cobwebs and dusts outside especially in the ceiling. In fact, it reminded me of a bus terminal's ceiling which is full of dirt, dusts and cobwebs.. :)

a facelift shouldn't mean re-PAINT...it should mean CLADDING...

one thing i have noticed sa terminal is that it is poorly lit (and the pics prove so)...gives you the feeling that the building doesn't have windows at all...hope that "facelifting" would include something to improve the lighting inside the terminal...

Don Muang is quite disorganized and huge.

@Slerz

Chairman Yap should not step down... He should stay... It was only during Yap's term that the airport got another lease of life.

Blame Alerre and the previous chairmens for the lack of maintenance on the airport... They don't know anything about aviation -- security, maintenance, terminal aesthetics, etc..etc.. Yasp himself is very much qualified. Aside from being a military man, he also had a stint in Clark airport.

Look at those ugly sheds that were being put up (during Alerre's term) in the airport entrance. It doesn't conform to the design of the building..

That's what I always hear that Yap made the airport better with regards to it's maintenance but sorry coz Leo of DYAB already bombarded Yap :D

a facelift shouldn't mean re-PAINT...it should mean CLADDING...

one thing i have noticed sa terminal is that it is poorly lit (and the pics prove so)...gives you the feeling that the building doesn't have windows at all...hope that "facelifting" would include something to improve the lighting inside the terminal...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the poor lighting inside the airport. I think even in NAIA 1 it looks real dark at night especially after stepping in from the aerobridge and the plane if you happened to have late night arrival like in the case of NWA. In MCIA the baggage claim area isn't well lit for sure. They do need to expand the terminal building to be able to accomodate more passengers arriving and departing from this airport.

Waterfront Mactan airport hotel
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instead of building an extra ramp for 747´s for only one occation (what a waste of money !) they should paint the facade, illuminate the terminal properly and replace the old and broken seats in the waiting areas. who needs a VIP terminal. the masses are the people, or should i say the tourists and businessmen who need comforting and attention, not some presidents for only one occation. it would be different if there would be regular intern. summits in cebu. then, and only then does it make sence to invest scarce funds into such prestige projects.

as far as i know there is a huge tarmac right next to the utilized one. (check the aerials of the airport in the last pages) all they have to do is fix that one with an overlay of asphalt......no need to build a new one !

Um... I've landed on a Cathay 747 and a PAL 747 in Cebu with no problems whatsoever...

^^
as pr Mr. Yap, MCIA is capable of hosting an A380 thanks to its runways. The only prob is that the terminal building itself is very small, A380's gonna dwarfed it. :)

Mactan runway is A380-capable
by Ruth G. Mercado July 21, 2005

Mactan may be the only airport in the country with a runway capable of accommodating superjumbo, the Airbus 380 and other new generation aircraft. Mactan beats airports in Manila and Subic on A380-capable runway.

Adelberto Yap, general manager of the Mactan Cebu Airport Authority, said A380 capabilities of the renovated runway allows the superjumbo jet to land and maneuver where distance is not a problem.

The 600-ton Airbus 380 is the world’s biggest and the first aircraft to have two decks. Hailed as a triumph in design and engineering that took 11 years to prepare and an overshot budget of $13 billion, the Airbus 380 can accommodate 555 people and up to 840 with the size of its hull.

With length of 73 meters, wingspan of 79.8 meters and height of 24.1 meters, the A380 offers spacious in-flight shopping and houses a lounge, bar, showers, gymnasium, libraries and an onboard waterfall. The behemoth jet promises to be fuel-efficient and quite when flying with minimal noise emissions

The renovated Mactan runway has a length of 3,300 meters and width of 45 meters with full parallel taxiways of 23 meters in width. The 316-meter centerline distance between runway and taxiway allows the superjumbo to maneuver in its 80-meter wingspan.

Yap said runway length is no problem for the A380 as it can land and take off on short distance. The former air force pilot who was once manager of the Subic airport said the rehabilitated Mactan runway can accommodate two approaching aircraft without touching each other’s wings. It has capabilities for other new generation aircraft like Boeing’s 777.

In comparison, runways at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport were configured for DC 8s and DC 10s, while Subic runways are short. Yap said that what restricts the Airbus 380’s landing and take off is that “Subic has maneuvering and space problems.”

US logistics giant, Federal Express announced last week that it was pulling out its Asia-Pacific hub in the country and moving it to China. Though FedEx did not explicitly explain why it was closing its operations in the country, there were heavy insinuations that it may have been due to runway limitations. Yap said Subic has shorter runway than Mactan and there are no expansion areas for cargo hangars.

The logistics giant is also purchasing Airbus 380s where the Subic runways are not big and long enough to accommodate these.

Yap said the only limitation for the A380-capable Mactan runway is docking the aircraft. He said configurations of the Mactan terminal are incompatible with double decker jets. “We don’t have double decker aero bridges, unless we fashion one.”

Plans to build terminal facilities configured for double deck aircraft are in the pipeline. Certainly for Cebu, having an Airbus 380 on its airport is no pipe dream.

Mactan runway is A380-capable
by Ruth G. Mercado July 21, 2005

Mactan may be the only airport in the country with a runway capable of accommodating superjumbo, the Airbus 380 and other new generation aircraft. Mactan beats airports in Manila and Subic on A380-capable runway.

Adelberto Yap, general manager of the Mactan Cebu Airport Authority, said A380 capabilities of the renovated runway allows the superjumbo jet to land and maneuver where distance is not a problem.

The 600-ton Airbus 380 is the world’s biggest and the first aircraft to have two decks. Hailed as a triumph in design and engineering that took 11 years to prepare and an overshot budget of $13 billion, the Airbus 380 can accommodate 555 people and up to 840 with the size of its hull.

With length of 73 meters, wingspan of 79.8 meters and height of 24.1 meters, the A380 offers spacious in-flight shopping and houses a lounge, bar, showers, gymnasium, libraries and an onboard waterfall. The behemoth jet promises to be fuel-efficient and quite when flying with minimal noise emissions.

The renovated Mactan runway has a length of 3,300 meters and width of 45 meters with full parallel taxiways of 23 meters in width. The 316-meter centerline distance between runway and taxiway allows the superjumbo to maneuver in its 80-meter wingspan.

Yap said runway length is no problem for the A380 as it can land and take off on short distance. The former air force pilot who was once manager of the Subic airport said the rehabilitated Mactan runway can accommodate two approaching aircraft without touching each other’s wings. It has capabilities for other new generation aircraft like Boeing’s 777.

In comparison, runways at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport were configured for DC 8s and DC 10s, while Subic runways are short. Yap said that what restricts the Airbus 380’s landing and take off is that “Subic has maneuvering and space problems.”

US logistics giant, Federal Express announced last week that it was pulling out its Asia-Pacific hub in the country and moving it to China. Though FedEx did not explicitly explain why it was closing its operations in the country, there were heavy insinuations that it may have been due to runway limitations. Yap said Subic has shorter runway than Mactan and there are no expansion areas for cargo hangars.

The logistics giant is also purchasing Airbus 380s where the Subic runways are not big and long enough to accommodate these.

Yap said the only limitation for the A380-capable Mactan runway is docking the aircraft. He said configurations of the Mactan terminal are incompatible with double decker jets. “We don’t have double decker aero bridges, unless we fashion one.”

Plans to build terminal facilities configured for double deck aircraft are in the pipeline. Certainly for Cebu, having an Airbus 380 on its airport is no pipe dream.
phew... thats good to hear

Does any airline or air forwarder plan to use A380s with Mactan Airport? The capability may be there but the demand by airlines is another thing.

^^
i certainly hope so. . . if there's demand for it why not?

Maybe in the future if the demand would come in...

Does any airline or air forwarder plan to use A380s with Mactan Airport? The capability may be there but the demand by airlines is another thing.

That depends on the demand. Right now not even foreign commercial airlines deploy their 747s to Cebu with the exception of PAL but even if it was from PAL it was all domestic flights.

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From virtual.planepictures.net

^^ w00t?

I hope the Mactan Terminal II will have double decker aerobridges. :-)

Could someone post a picture of an A380 and a B747 side by side so that we can compare the two..?

^^ some schematic comparison of the two bai:

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They almost have the same length..

I guess an A380 can park and dock in any of our major airports be it in Davao, Cebu or Manila as long as there are no other planes beside it.

I think their concern is the presence of a taxiway so that it doesnt have to make a full turn at the end of the runway [or at the runway itself] in going to the terminal.

^^

Oh yes. The airport in Davao doesn't have a separate taxiway yet, but they are planning to build one.

^^ i hope in the near future we can see the mammoth plane in our skies. And since Qatar Airways is acquiring one, then the likelihood of it being used here in cebu is high...

Yup bai, I think this was also one of the reasons why Yap wanted the proposed parallel runway to be 4 kilometers long. For future purposes lang ba.. But I lost that article na..

^^ Although A380 does not really require a longer runway, i think a parallel runway should be built to accomodate increased airline traffic and to complement the new terminal [soon :)]

ano ba ang runway requirements ng A380 for landing and take off?

runway length - maximum of 2800 meters [if in full capacity]
runway width - at least 45 meters
taxiway width - at least 23 meters

Airport boss cries foul on new case
Published: 30 March 2006
CDN

MACTAN-CEBU International Airport Manager Adelberto Yap called "harassment" the cases filed by a businessman against the members of the airport's board of directors.

Crisologo Saavedra filed unlawful appointment cases against nine members of the Mactan cebu International Airport Authority (MICIAA) board with the Ombudsman Visayas for extending Yap's tenure at the airport.

Saavedra said Yap is not eligible to hold the post.

Yap, in an interview yesterday, said Saavedra is a "notorious personality" who participated and lost in biddings of almost all projects at the airport.
"That is the nth time that he has filed a case against the board. Notorious yan siya eh," Yap told Cebu Daily News.

Saavedra included in his case Transportation Asst. Sec. Nilo Jatico, Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, Tourism Regional Director Patria Roa, former Cebu City vice mayor Renato Osmeña, Ramon Liwag, Valeriano Avila, Winglip Chang, Ma. Teresa Abal and Gordon Joseph-all members of the airport board.

Saavedra told the Ombudsman that the board members violated Section 3, Article 244 of the Revised Penal Code, which penalizes "any public officer who will nominate or appoint anyone to any public office despite the lack of legal qualifications."

Yap, however, said that the board has the power to reappoint him as long as he has the nomination of the President.

"That is how it works here in MCIAA, the President nominates and the board confirms the nomination. Kahit sino pa dyan ang qualified with Career Executive Service Eligibility (Ceso)-3, if they don't have the President's nomination, hindi yan papansinin ng board," he added. Reporter Kathy Navarro

runway length - maximum of 2800 meters [if in full capacity]
runway width - at least 45 meters
taxiway width - at least 23 meters


pwede pala ang davao... for landing 3000 meters ang availabe...for take off 3120 meters ang available. runway is 45 meters across...wala lang nga taxiway...yun nalang pala ang kulang...

ang aero bridges pala dito sa davao ay naaadjust to the height of the door of the A380.

Airport boss cries foul on new case
Published: 30 March 2006
CDN

MACTAN-CEBU International Airport Manager Adelberto Yap called "harassment" the cases filed by a businessman against the members of the airport's board of directors.




At least GM Yap has brought about changes in the airport, and he still has very good plans for the future.



Basta't may resulta, okey ka! :okay:

pwede pala ang davao... for landing 3000 meters ang availabe...for take off 3120 meters ang available. runway is 45 meters across...wala lang nga taxiway...yun nalang pala ang kulang...

ang aero bridges pala dito sa davao ay naaadjust to the height of the door of the A380.


The problem of MCIA on the other hand are the aerobridges due to incompatibility to the A380. That's why they are planning to buy two of them hopefully before december.

The problem of MCIA on the other hand are the aerobridges due to incompatibility to the A380. That's why they are planning to buy two of them hopefully before december.

The planned 2 aerobridges are being aloted for domestic operations, I don't think they are planning to put one that's designed for A380 since there are no airlines yet that is indicating to deploy A380s to their cebu route, so the aerobridges will be added so that when there are several bigger aircrafts such as 747s in the international wing, the smaller aircrafts will have slots for more aerobridges to provide more convinience to the passengers. I'm sure if and when they will build T2 in Cebu, they will have A380 aircrafts in their minds.

^^ ah ok. thnx. but then again, if and when... hehehe :D

I'm sure they will Marikii, it's already being planned to build a separate International terminal building as the international wing in MCIA is getting smaller and smaller with the addition of more flight from Asiana and Korean airlines.

runway length - maximum of 2800 meters [if in full capacity]
runway width - at least 45 meters
taxiway width - at least 23 meters

Pwede rin pala A380 sa GenSan... 3,244 x 45 meters.... may extra pa na 444 meters... no wonder why the B747 is very comfortable in landing and take-off in GenSan....

Pwedeng pwede rin pala A380 sa GenSan kasi madalas walang naka park sa apron... pwede siya sa gitna mag park...hehehehe

I guess the only airports in the Philippines that could handle the A380 are:
Manila and Clark in Luzon, Mactan-Cebu in Visayas and Davao and GenSan in Mindanao....

Can Laoag Airport handle B747s? Coz the airport could handle the MD11 for when PAL operated the Laoag - Honolulu nonstop service, they utilized their short-lived MD11...

PHILIPPINES' MACTAN AIRPORT TO BE IMPROVED FOR ASEAN SUMMIT

Tuesday March 28, 2006, 1:34 pm

CEBU CITY, March 27 Asia Pulse - Some P400 million (US$7.8 million) will be spent in the widening of airport parking space for jets to be used by heads of state, sprucing up of VIP lounges and security facilities for the ASEAN Summit in December. One-way mirrors will also be installed to shield the sight of heavily armed security forces.

The plans were presented Friday at the Capitol in a briefing with Consul General Marciano Paynor. "Right now, there is no doubt in my mind, or the President's mind that it will be held here," he said."We are glad now where we are, considering that three months ago there was nothing in the horizon. So instead of areas of concern, I'd say we have milestones of achievement," Paynor said.

Paynor, presidential adviser on state and foreign visits, heard presentations from airport manager Adelberto Yap of the Mactan-Cebu International Airport, the Department of Public Works and Development and other members of the Cebu Organizing Committee which is co-chaired by Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia.

Two hectares will be added to the airport runway to accommodate two 747 jets that Japan plans to use during the summit. Total airport preparation costs will reach P105 million, including the purchase of P5-million air-conditioned VIP buses to ferry passengers from the ramp to the airport building.Asphalting of arrival and departure areas, and landscaping are also being proposed at the airport along with neon-lighted signages following international standards to guide aircraft and passenger traffic.

Paynor said he was satisfied with the status of preparations."The President has already made the decision that the summit will be held here. When we said in the past that the summit will be held in Manila as backup plans, that is the last option in order to fulfill the plan," Paynor told reporters.

Tighter airport security will mean additional officers but many of the heavily armed security men will be positioned behind a one-way mirror. Paynor said less visibility of heavily armed men is needed to avoid creating a bad impression about Cebu's peace and order.Asked about the availability of a budget, Paynor said this will have to be deliberated by the committee first.

The DPWH regional office presented a plan for P278.1 million for improvements for nine road sections in the cities of Cebu, Lapu-Lapu, and Mandaue. The provincial government will soon start building a P270-million Cebu International convention Centre as the summit venue. Nevertheless, Paynor said alternate conference sites are being eyed as backup such at the Waterfront Hotel in Cebu City or the Shangri-La Mactan Island Resort in Lapu-Lapu City.

Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, COC co-chairman, saidd that the building would be finished in time for the summit. (PNA)

great, but why does it to have an asean summit for the improvements?

^^ Para hindi mapahiya. As always, reactive instead of proactive.

cool!!


i saw before in The Correspondents ... karen davilla ata yun .. went to germany ( not sure rin) pumunta sila sa pagawaan ng airbuses ,, then nakita nila ang isa sa ginagawa ay cebu pacific ,,,, ginagamit na ba nila yun?


Hi evryone!

^^ They just delivered two A319s this month and the blessing was graced by PGMA. Refleeting will continue until next year, by then they will have an all-airbus fleet.

great, but why does it to have an asean summit for the improvements?

as the Governor said, this is the time that we can take advantage. If only these events can give Cebu enough fundings (which are almost poured in the NCR) from the National government for its infras, improvements of government facilities etc... we will host the event every year.

^^

And I guess it was only during the term of Adelberto Yap that improvements in the facilities of the MCIAA were bared even before it was announced that Cebu would host that Summit.

He's a very dynamic person. He can really see that the airport itself badly needs a facelift.

The managers before him were just sitting ducks. They were just concerned with the day-to-day operations of the airport and nothing else.

Some of his accomplishments are as follows:

1.) Rejuvenating of the runway
2.) Additional security equipment
3.) Improvements in the approach/access road going to the airport
4.) Construction of a separate administration building so that the space that they are currently occupying in the terminal would be leased out to airline companies
5.) Construction of additional access roads towards the airport


...And if politics would not play around with him, he could actually become the first MCIAA manager who was able to build a new terminal, a second runway, new parking spaces, etc..etc..

^^

And I guess it was only during the term of Adelberto Yap that improvements in the facilities of the MCIAA were bared even before it was announced that Cebu would host that Summit.

He's a very dynamic person. He can really see that the airport itself badly needs a facelift.

The managers before him were just sitting ducks. They were just concerned with the day-to-day operations of the airport and nothing else.

Some of his accomplishments are as follows:

1.) Rejuvenating of the runway
2.) Additional security equipment
3.) Improvements in the approach/access road going to the airport
4.) Construction of a separate administration building so that the space that they are currently occupying in the terminal would be leased out to airline companies
5.) Construction of additional access roads towards the airport


...And if politics would not play around with him, he could actually become the first MCIAA manager who was able to build a new terminal, a second runway, new parking spaces, etc..etc..

kahit nga yung maliliit lang na bagay ay ok na sa akin. before him yung mga push cart sa international baggage section ay sira-sira at kinakalawang, mag-aagawan ang pasahero. kulang na, sira pa. but the last time i came na repair na may mga bago pa. Iyan si A. Yap sana magtuloy-tuloy na ang improvements ng MCIA. Keep-up the good work Mr. A. Yap.

^^

Mr. Yap really has more experience than his predecessors even though if he isn't Civil Service eligible. His predecessors were either just plain lawyers, a former pilot, a general, etc..

Mr. Yap, a former military man, was once manager of the Subic Airport. He also became an exec in Clark (I'm not sure it its in the airport or sa economic zone).

And he's the typical visionary type of guy, very dynamic din. If only his ideas are taken seriously..

This is the ugly thing, his credibility is being questioned yet he has done a very good job, while you can run as president of the country as long as you can read and write?
Presidency anyone? Thats weird!

MCIA´s website is crappy. no better than the old one. wonder what they redid it for. you can´t even read the statistics, numbers are too small. pictures are extremly bad. you forumers should offer your photos to them for a better outfit !

^^

Yeah, sometimes you can't even access it... But I'm hoping something new once the administration building is completed. Construction is currently ongoing.

I think cebu is doing great... i've been there twice and there airport is properly maintained... the flaws was just the design of the airport which look like it stuck in the world of 80's (they are much look like Terminal 1 of NAIA). And obsolete. Cebu deverses to have a modern airport like T3 in Manila or like Shanghai. Esp. now it has many air traffics and its economy are booming. I think a 15 gate airport is good for Cebu.

I wish PAL will also introduce US flights to Cebu, I mean direct flights to boost the pax capacity... A direct flight like CEB-LAX-CEB and CEB-SFO-CEB.

I think cebu is doing great... i've been there twice and there airport is properly maintained... the flaws was just the design of the airport which look like it stuck in the world of 80's (they are much look like Terminal 1 of NAIA). And obsolete. Cebu deverses to have a modern airport like T3 in Manila or like Shanghai. Esp. now it has many air traffics and its economy are booming. I think a 15 gate airport is good for Cebu.

I wish PAL will also introduce US flights to Cebu, I mean direct flights to boost the pax capacity... A direct flight like CEB-LAX-CEB and CEB-SFO-CEB.



You're right ianers ianized, Cebu is booming and we deserve a bigger and modern looking airport. Anyway, there is already a proposed Terminal 2 building ,and im just hoping that it will materialize soon. Thank you, for your comment about Cebu and the MCIA. :banana: :applause: :cheers1:

Is there any rendering of the proposed T2 of MCIA somewhere? I would love to see one.

Oh i dont know if there is , but our boys from Cebu (sinjin , sugbuanon , rusty 18 , slerz, arnoldza and the rest ) can post the rendering for you. Ok boys ........its your turn now.....muahhhh. But as far i can remember there is no rendering yet. The proposed T2 will be build late this year or early next year yet, ??????...

Is there any rendering of the proposed T2 of MCIA somewhere? I would love to see one.
It's still at the design stage.

@ianers_ianized

You're right bro. If I'm not mistaken, it was either Architect Guanzon or Cañizares (both from Cebu) who designed the airport. The design looks "heavy" though, they should have taken advantage of light materials like glass and steel frames which was already an "in-thing" even during the early 90s.

Anyway, there is actually a direct US-Cebu flight but this happens only once a year and that's during the Sinulog month.

I guess we still need a sizeable traffic from North America in order to mount some regular flights.

^^^^^ Not neccesarily just around sinulog season Arnoldsa. If you fly via American Airlines, Cathy Pacific will connect you direct to Cebu. I think since Asiana flies directly to Cebu now, you can fly directly to Cebu via Korea. Same thing with Cathy Pacific US bound. There is almost no such thing as direct flight from the US to the Philippines except PAL which originates from US westcoast mostly but PAL has no US - Cebu direct flights.

PAL's planning the Cebu - Seoul (Incheon) - Los Angeles flights, right? Well, for me its better if they'll offer a nonstop CEB - LAX service rather than a direct service....

What's the difference between nonstop and direct? :bash:

starting april 4 pal codeshare with qatar airways for riyadh manila flight via doha and vice versa

sana riyadh-cebu din. hehe. baka wala pang market.

starting april 4 pal codeshare with qatar airways for riyadh manila flight via doha and vice versa

Please explain to me the principle behind code sharing. Anybody? Please?

hi xDieseljockx,
code sharing is :
par example PAL code shares with mas to kuala lumpur (on mas aircraft). a certain amount of seats on selected flights are bought by PAL. they pay for each seat if they can fill them or not. so if they book 50 seats and only 34 passengers book through PAL to kuala lumpur PAL has to pay for the remaining 16 seats out of their own coffers. this is done on routes that are too thin to be flown by 2 different airlines. instead of sending two flights with only half capacity, they share one aircraft and share the profits with passengers who book on 2 different airlines. i hope i made myself quite clear ? otherwise just ask again for further details.

@ianers_ianized

You're right bro. If I'm not mistaken, it was either Architect Guanzon or Cañizares (both from Cebu) who designed the airport. The design looks "heavy" though, they should have taken advantage of light materials like glass and steel frames which was already an "in-thing" even during the early 90s.

Anyway, there is actually a direct US-Cebu flight but this happens only once a year and that's during the Sinulog month.

I guess we still need a sizeable traffic from North America in order to mount some regular flights.

yeah, the "in fashion" in airport designs today are full of glass dasign and steel like T2 and Incheon (if you see - a biiger version of T2). Cebu deserves a world-class airport like ala NAIA T3... since it is also the countries second capital city.

I hope the the new airport for Cebu that is going to be built will be modern, big enough to accomodate many planes and modern design but still have touches of what Cebu really is.

PAL must have a regular Cebu-US flights.... even not daily flights, a 3x a week is fine. This will promote Cebu to US too.

cebu pacific is very supportive of the government, sila ngs ang unang airline an nagpresenta na gumamit ng t3 sa soft opening too bad nahulog yng ceiling di na tuloy, pal naman medyo pakipot pa, palaban pa nga tngkol sa issue ng terminal 3

Oh i dont know if there is , but our boys from Cebu (sinjin , sugbuanon , rusty 18 , slerz, arnoldza and the rest ) can post the rendering for you. Ok boys ........its your turn now.....muahhhh. But as far i can remember there is no rendering yet. The proposed T2 will be build late this year or early next year yet, ??????...

It the new airport going to be built is like world-class T3 of NAIA or like Shanghai, Hongkong...

hindi ko alam na may flight na ang qatar airways din sa sa cebe, alam ko sa clark meron din sila eh. Booming airline ang Qatar Airways.. dami nilang destination dito sa Philippines. And not to mention in other Asian countries. Ng-open pa nga sila ng ibang Asian destination recently.

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Qatar Airways in Clark??? I don't think so. Their latest destination is HongKong. They fly Cebu-Doha via Singapore thrice weekly.

They only fly to 2 Philippines cities-- Manila and Cebu.

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Qatar Airways in Clark??? I don't think so. Their latest destination is HongKong. They fly Cebu-Doha via Singapore thrice weekly.

They only fly to 2 Philippines cities-- Manila and Cebu.

i just saw a Qatar Airways A330 plane park at Subic Int'l Airport when we visited the butterfly garden enroute to Ocean Adventure Park, Subic Clark Pangpanga.

OIC. I thought as a regular route, which Im sure not yet. This airline was planning to go daily in and out of Cebu-- but did not push through.

You're right, this airline's amazing. One of the only four 5 star airlines in the world. It garnered such accolode that others who are already decades in the industry are still trying hard to get-- :) but it stinks (especially the flight from Doha)...

You're right, this airline's amazing. One of the only four 5 star airlines in the world. It garnered such accolode that others who are already decades in the industry are still trying hard to get-- :) but it stinks (especially the flight from Doha)...

Why? Have you flown QR?

I think its a great airline, the have brand new planes, and i love their livery of planes in grey color with an anthelope logo (i think)

i tried it from Singapore to Cebu (stopover from Doha). . . and it was okey.

hi xDieseljockx,
code sharing is :
par example PAL code shares with mas to kuala lumpur (on mas aircraft). a certain amount of seats on selected flights are bought by PAL. they pay for each seat if they can fill them or not. so if they book 50 seats and only 34 passengers book through PAL to kuala lumpur PAL has to pay for the remaining 16 seats out of their own coffers. this is done on routes that are too thin to be flown by 2 different airlines. instead of sending two flights with only half capacity, they share one aircraft and share the profits with passengers who book on 2 different airlines. i hope i made myself quite clear ? otherwise just ask again for further details.


Yes, thank you very much sir, cheers!!!!!

i tried it from Singapore to Cebu (stopover from Doha). . . and it was okey.

Qatar Airways fly from cebu but made stop over 1st to Doha? That is a real long flight. Ceb- Singap should only take 3 hours, with Doha layover, it would take it to almost 10 hours. Are you sure about this?

Some airport and airline codes to understand more.

CEB - IATA airport code for Mactan - Cebu International Airport
DVO - IATA airport code for Davao
MNL - IATA airport code for Manila
SFO - IATA airport code for San Francisco, California (not Camotes, okay?)
LAX - IATA airport code for Los Angeles, California

PR - IATA airline code for Philippine Airlines
5J - IATA airline code for Cebu Pacific
6K - IATA airline code for Asian Spirit
QR - IATA airline code for Qatar Airways
DG - IATA airline code for SEAair



IATA - International Air Transport Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA)

yes im sure, what i mean is that the flight that I took from Singapore was a flight from Doha going to Cebu, that is why I can still smell the Doha--ish inside the plane. LOL.

After World War II, Mactan Air Base became the largest US Air Base outside United States. Here is more info.

Mactan-Benito Ebuen Air Base, CEBU. Construction of this large joint military and civil air field commenced in 1956 which now serves the Cebu-Mactan International Airport and the complex houses. This is the air base responsible for the Transport Wing of the PAF, where the Hercules, Fokkers and Nomads are found and based. When fighters are stationed in the area, it was known as the Base of the defenders of the Philippine southern backdoor.

In June 1996, known as Mactan Air Base it was renamed Benito Ebuen Air Base in honor of the PAF Commanding General and the pilot of the ill fated Presidential Plane "Mt. Pinatubo" which was carrying Pres. Ramon Magsaysay that crashed in Mt. Manunggal on 03mar57 killing all 25 aboard. Gen. Ebuen who was also a commander of the 5th Fighter wing was also famous in piloting the famous PAF P-51 Mustang known as the "Shark of Zambales". During World War II, he flew reconnaissance missions for Gen. Jonathan Wainwright before the fall of the Philippines. He then served as a guerrilla in the remainder of the war.

Qatar Airways fly from cebu but made stop over 1st to Doha? That is a real long flight. Ceb- Singap should only take 3 hours, with Doha layover, it would take it to almost 10 hours. Are you sure about this?

i think ashton meant the DOH-SIN-CEB flt. :D there is no direct DOH-CEB flt yet.

I figured that was the case there.

Here are some codeshare flights in Cebu that I know:

1.) PAL codeshare with Cathay Pacific - Hongkong
2.) PAL codeshare with Malaysia Airlines - Kota Kinabalu and Kuala Lumpur


And I'm not quite sure with regards to Cebu Pacific but here's what happened:

My mom bought a Northwest ticket for the US. She was just issued one ticket (a NWA ticket specifically) which had the following route: Cebu-Manila-Narita-LAX

But she boarded a Cebu Pacific flight (to Manila) using that NWA Ticket. Does this mean that Cebu Pacific is codesharing with NWA too?

did you mean there are only 4 5-star airlines in the world can you enumerate???? can someone tell me the 4 airlines!

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yup, they are Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways and recently Malaysia Airlines.

PAL is only 3 star. Thai Airways will soon become a 5 star airline, some say as they are really working hard on it.

PR - IATA airline code for Philippine Airlines
5J - IATA airline code for Cebu Pacific
6K - IATA airline code for Asian Spirit
QR - IATA airline code for Qatar Airways
DG - IATA airline code for SEAair

IATA - International Air Transport Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA)


I find it confusing and weird why Cebu Pacific and other domestic airlines in our country has a weird airline code, not close to their name like Cebu Pacific - 5J, when they can have it as CP or CB right. Do airlines choose they codes or they are being designated. Another ex. is Air Philippines w/ a code of 2P.

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yup, they are Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways and recently Malaysia Airlines.

PAL is only 3 star. Thai Airways will soon become a 5 star airline, some say as they are really working hard on it.


What about Qantas and Northwest? Are 5 star airline?

Well, why PAL is only 3 star, well they should work hard on it too... starting with their fleet.

well if ONLY PAL has the money...

Qantas is a 4 star airline while NWA is only 3 star. . .

there are a number of requirements for an airline to get a 5 star status-- some of them are service, food, safety etc. . . thats why 5 star airlines are exceptional from the moment you check in the counter .......

What about Qantas and Northwest? Are 5 star airline?

Well, why PAL is only 3 star, well they should work hard on it too... starting with their fleet.

Here are some codeshare flights in Cebu that I know:

1.) PAL codeshare with Cathay Pacific - Hongkong
2.) PAL codeshare with Malaysia Airlines - Kota Kinabalu and Kuala Lumpur


And I'm not quite sure with regards to Cebu Pacific but here's what happened:

My mom bought a Northwest ticket for the US. She was just issued one ticket (a NWA ticket specifically) which had the following route: Cebu-Manila-Narita-LAX

But she boarded a Cebu Pacific flight (to Manila) using that NWA Ticket. Does this mean that Cebu Pacific is codesharing with NWA too?


Cebu Pacific is an airline partner of Northwest Airlines... Cebu Pacific is a member of NWA Worldperks...

What's the difference between nonstop and direct? :bash:

From what I understand, non-stop means just exactly that, non-stop between two points. A direct flight means that it's a flight between two points with a possible lay-over in transit but still keeps it's flight number designation. For example PAL has a direct flight between LAX/SFO to MNL but they make a one-hour "technical stop" in HNL (but I think that it's GUM now).

I find it confusing and weird why Cebu Pacific and other domestic airlines in our country has a weird airline code, not close to their name like Cebu Pacific - 5J, when they can have it as CP or CB right. Do airlines choose they codes or they are being designated. Another ex. is Air Philippines w/ a code of 2P.

With the numerous airlines flying, and the possible two-letter airline code combinations are limited, some airlines are forced to have a number-letter code as their designation.

I find it confusing and weird why Cebu Pacific and other domestic airlines in our country has a weird airline code, not close to their name like Cebu Pacific - 5J, when they can have it as CP or CB right. Do airlines choose they codes or they are being designated. Another ex. is Air Philippines w/ a code of 2P.

Nope. The IATA will designate the two-character code. Later on, the IATA will follow the ICAO airport and airline code (which is I like, in my opinion).

Airport Codes

RPLL - Ninoy Aquino International Airport
RPVM - Mactan-Cebu International Airport
RPMD - Francisco Bangoy International Airport
RPLC - Diosdado Macapagal International Airport

Airline Codes
PAL - Philippine Airlines
CEB - Cebu Pacific
GAP - Air Philippines
SRQ - South East Asian Airlines

well if ONLY PAL has the money...

Ha, and it's no wonder why PAL, to this date, doesn't have TV monitors in every seat (sa buong economy class).

Yeah, and they have lame entertainment.

In other news...


Cathay Pacific will be adding two more weekly flights on top of their 7 times per week [daily] flights to MCIA. Sounds good for tourism and the economy :okay:

runway length - maximum of 2800 meters [if in full capacity]
runway width - at least 45 meters
taxiway width - at least 23 meters


Okay here is the answer for the runway requirements for an A380 to be able to land and take off when it is in full capacity and cargoes at the same time, it also includes the taxiways for lenght and width, the runway must atleast have 4000m x 60m so looks like even in Cebu and A380 can't just land there in full capacity and with cargoes inside.


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ICAO Code F requirements summarise what is needed:

Runways

4.1 The runway width should be not less than 60m. Runway shoulders are
recommended and, if provided, should be at least 7.5m in width each side, giving an overall minimum width of 75m.

4.2 The Obstacle Free Zone (OFZ) shall extend to at least 77.5m either side of the runway centreline for a code 4 precision approach runway Category I, II, or III.

4.3 Precision approach Category I, II and III runway-holding positions should be located at least 107.5m from the runway centreline, increased as necessary to avoid interference with radio navigation aids.

Taxiways and Taxi-lanes

4.4 The minimum width of a taxiway should be 25m. The clearance between an outer main wheel of an aircraft and the taxiway edge should be at least 4.5m (the same as for Code E); however, Annex 14 advises that a greater clearance may permit higher taxiing speeds.

4.5 Taxiway shoulders and grading of the taxiway strip should be provided to give a minimum overall width of 60m.

4.6 The following minimum separations should apply:
• taxiway centreline – instrument code 4 runway centreline 190m
• taxiway centreline – non-instrument code 4 runway centreline 115m
• taxiway centreline – taxiway centreline 97.5m
• taxiway centreline – object (including taxiway strip) 57.5m
• aircraft stand taxi-lane centreline – object 50.5m

Aircraft Aprons and Stands

4.7 Annex 14 does not specify a minimum clearance between the outer main gear wheels and an apron edge, whether taxiing in a straight line or turning a corner. AC139-06 specifies a distance of 3.8m for Code E aircraft.

4.8 On aircraft stands, minimum stand clearances between the aircraft using a stand and any adjacent building, aircraft on another stand and other object for Code F are the same as Code E at 7.5m, and may be reduced when special circumstances so warrant.

Taxiing Guidance Signs

4.9 Annex 14 requirements for the location of taxiing guidance signs including runway exit signs are based on the code number of the runway.

4.10 The following distances shall apply:
• Perpendicular distance from defined taxiway pavement edge 11-21m
• Perpendicular distance from defined runway pavement edge 8-15m

Passenger opinions of Cebu's Mactan International Airport, taken from www.airlinequality.com.

CEB - CEBU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

We flew into and out of Cebu-Mactan Airport in November of this year. We arrived quite late from HKG and had to wait quite a while for immigration to process our full flight together with a PAL flight from Japan. Luggage claim area was like stepping back in time....a bit dodgy, but ok. Leave the terminal and you are literally bombarded left and right by taxi drivers and money exchangers. Leaving was a different story. The check-in desks for the international departures are behind doors that are kept locked until a few hours before departure, which means you are sitting in a rather dingy terminal until your airline is ready to check you in. Security is a joke, but that didn't surprise us after being in the Philippines. Once you check in you have the option of going through to the gate or back into the main terminal. We were told to go to immigration and were surprised with the fact that we had to pay an airport tax P 550 or $ 11. Once through passport control you are at the gates. There is ONE store: Phlilippes Duty Free (total rip- off and joke) and two cafeterias, which were asking ridiculous amounts for everything on the menu. As the gate area was kept closed, you wait in a huge area behind passport control just behind passport control. We had a laugh as we stood (there were only 5 chairs) behind the passport control people, who were playing video games on their computers. That explains why they snarled at us when we arrived! We interrupted them!!!! Other than stand and wait, you can be massaged by ladies that await you when you clear immigration, who bother you even when you barely look in their direction. So for those travelling to this prison- turned-airport, do not clear immigration too early as there is nothing to do! Facilities are way under par, but being the Philippines, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Mactan-Cebu International Airport (CEB) is a much better entry point to the Philippines than Ninoy Aquino (unless your final destination is Manila, of course). However, despite the fact that Cebu is the second-largest city in the Philippines, there is nothing overly impressive about its airport. I arrived at CEB on a domestic flight and was quite surprised how desolate the terminal was. This was in stark contrast to what was waiting just outside. For a flight of 60 or so people it seemed like the whole city of Cebu was waiting to greet us in the "welcoming area". I stuck out like a sore thumb, being the only Cacuasian around, but never once felt threatened by the smiling faces of Filipinos. I was immediately greeted by a sonata of sales pitches, as taxi reps competed for my business. I gently waved them off, since I was waiting to meet my friend. They were persistent, but not obnoxious. The availability of transportation is not a problem at CEB, but you will need to learn the art of negotiation to avoid being charged unfairly. Thankfully, my friend is quite skilled in these matters and we never had to pay an elevated fare. A few weeks later I left from the international terminal at CEB for a flight to HKG. I don't remember much about my actual impressions of this terminal, since I was contemplating a heartbreaking goodbye to my friend. However, I do remember that the security line was not long at all, and the entire process of getting my boarding pass and clearing customs took about 15 minutes max. The airport workers were quite friendly, except, of course, for the customs official. CEB is a utilitarian airport and nothing more. It helps you get around the Philippines and S.E. Asia, but luxurious it is not. It does, however, have a much more friendly feel than NAIA and Manila's domestic terminal.

This is a small international airport. The approach to the terminal is not very impressive. The food selection and stores outside the security check area have very few selections compared to other international airports of comparable size. Security check line is short, and the process efficient. Once inside, the terminal is bereft of quality food outlets. There are few stores that sell souvenirs and indigenous food items to take home. We stayed inside Philippine Airlines business class lounge so we avoided the large crowd outside. The public restrooms are not well maintained. To get inside the boarding area, each passenger must pay an airport departure tax payable in cash. The boarding area is too small for the Airbus A330-300 that PAL uses for its Cebu-Manila flights.

Airport of Cebu is very laid back style. But it makes me feel more convenient than to go Manila airport. There are 4 international airlines to choose from - Cathay, Silk Air, Malaysia Airlines and Qatar airways. Its hassle free airport and when it comes to transportation, lots of taxi outside the airport. And two big hotel near the airport - Waterfront Mactan hotel and Days hotel.

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behind the passport control people, who were playing video games on their computers

I agree with this statement. It's good though that they don't have the attitude of some employees in cityhall who keep themselves busy by polishing their nails and reading komiks while clients are lining outside..

Passenger opinions of Cebu's Mactan International Airport, taken from www.airlinequality.com.

CEB - CEBU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

I hope MCIA could attain a 3 star status with its proposed new passenger terminal building. It should really improve its facilities being one of the gateways for international tourists. I agree with the opinion of those passengers. Tourists from the west or those travelling thru Singapore, Hongkong or Dubai airports would find our facilities here too small, and much more its not even properly maintained to compete with those in comparable size. Maybe it was not built for international standard airport. The ceiling of the airport is too low and the floor tiles with those dirty look (bulacan) beige marbles. I hope the new passenger terminal building could improve the status of MCIA.

What's the difference between nonstop and direct? :bash:

A nonstop flight is like the Manila - Los Angeles and a direct flight is like the Manila - Nagoya - Detroit of Northwest, there is a quick stop in one city....

wonder when we can see renderings of T2, anyone knows ?

thanks ashton for the reply! can't help to feel sad after reading the comments on our airport! well they are right why do we lack excellently maintained and world-class airport that's why on the average only 4 out of 10 comments are positive about are airports! and we always get compared!! hope that someday we are the ones comparing them to us! other nations really concentrate and invest large moneys on their airports examples are the KL airport and Centrair! the new terminal for Cebu should be world-class!

thanks ashton for the reply! can't help to feel sad after reading the comments on our airport! well they are right why do we lack excellently maintained and world-class airport that's why on the average only 4 out of 10 comments are positive about are airports! and we always get compared!! hope that someday we are the ones comparing them to us! other nations really concentrate and invest large moneys on their airports examples are the KL airport and Centrair! the new terminal for Cebu should be world-class!

yeah, a agree world-class airport for Cebu. It is a promising city in our country and it shouldn't be left with others.

Ha, and it's no wonder why PAL, to this date, doesn't have TV monitors in every seat (sa buong economy class).

You haven't fly PAL did you? PAL B747s used in US and Japan flights have TV screens on its economy seats, I mean every seat. While A340s & A330s doesn't have screens in every seat, it has a big screen per galley and and 3 tv middle galley screens in its seat layout so you won't missed entertainment. I haven't fly with their A320 but my bro and sis told me their modern A320 have tv screen per seat row.

Why are you guys too picky about PTVs in every seat? I'm happy with just a nice overhead screen close-by and in clear view. In a long haul flight I'd rather sleep than be bothered by movies or ads, it get's boring after awhile. I know it's kind of upsetting that the national carrier doesn't have that modern features like in other international carrier but it would be nice if PAL or any Philippine air carriers would just beat other international companies with it's good service , newer and safer aircrafts that can fly longer. I agree it's helpful to attract more passengers if theses aircrafts has an up-to-date features like those, but I'd go for comfort, service and good food more than anything else.

^ I agree... good comfort and service matters most and plus especially the "distinct" warm Filipino hospitality that only PAL offers. I've always observed it evrytime I fly PAL.

Yeah, and they have lame entertainment.

Have u flown PAL already esp. on long houl flights... i think did not... you should see the "Flight of Fancy", PAL's entertainment program... movies are great esp. Pinoy movies.

i never had a chance to fly pal, but what i notice flying northwest airlines, once i change planes in tokyo the the flight attendant crew in the economy section are filipina and they act like super models with snubby attitude. and they get stingy when you ask for drinks.

^^ ako, i had a different experience about nw... i was upgraded to world-business class, the filipina fa's were nice and speaks fluent and clear english

what should PAL do to make their airline a 5 star?

^^ Learn from and emulate what SQ and CX does. They lead the airline industry in innovations and customer service satisfaction.

^ and one of them is to put PTV per seat in its economy class, as in revamp lahat ng airplanes pati B737 nila... pero mukhang magmamahal ang pamasahe pag ganun syempre babawi ang mga yun sa improved service nila.

Well the New A320s will have AVOD (Audio Video on Demand) in Mabuhay Class. so honestly.. Any new PAL Widebody order WILL have PTVs in every seat.. its the industry standard now. At least what i think

You haven't fly PAL did you? PAL B747s used in US and Japan flights have TV screens on its economy seats, I mean every seat. While A340s & A330s doesn't have screens in every seat, it has a big screen per galley and and 3 tv middle galley screens in its seat layout so you won't missed entertainment. I haven't fly with their A320 but my bro and sis told me their modern A320 have tv screen per seat row.

That's good news

My last flight on PAL was 5 years ago. So yeah, I probably have missed out on the updates. Glad though that we are catching up to global industry standards

Why are you guys too picky about PTVs in every seat?

I see your point but when an airline doesn't have any, it serves as major disadvantage in our current age. It's an industry standard in the global airline industry and it must be something that should be implemented across all airlines if ever they are to be considered as WORLD CLASS.

Thankfully, the first quote (from ianizers_ianized) clears a few things up with a few updates.

Learn from and emulate what SQ and CX does. They lead the airline industry in innovations and customer service satisfaction.

From what I recall, these two airlines (along with Emirates ata) lead the pack as the world's best passenger airline companies.

As of now, my favorite airline is Singapore Airlines and I've ridden it twice on their flights to Singapore.

During my most recent flight with SQ, they already put WISEMEN 5000 (developed by Matsushita Electrical Co, the people behind Panasonic). Basically, it allow more video channels, more radio stations and guess what.......option to choose your own songs and transfer them to a user-defined playlist. You can pick around from a list of more than 5000 songs tapos pwede kang gumawa ng playlist tapos doon mo ilalagay yung mga pinili mong kanta. Excellent feature.

They already implemented this around the time when Evanescene was still popular (around year 2003 ata).

Siguro, since storage technology and in-flight entertainment server systems get cheaper every year, I expect that PAL will get and implement this system (from Economy to First Class) NOT LATER THAN 2011.

So, that's around five years to set it up.

how come PAL is low tech? i mean most of their planes are old..

kasi walang budget....

how come PAL is low tech? i mean most of their planes are old..


Nah, I don't think PAL is not of a hightech standard. Heck, try flying any US regional and even British Airways..LOL It's just pretty much standard.

Try flying PAL at least once esp. on their B744, A320 flights, ok din nman yung A340, A330... khit since 1996 pa yung mga planes na yun eh maintained nman yung kalinisan ng galley.

I agree they should have PTVs even on economy... that is today's airline competition.

I saw nga an interior of JAL B777, with all PTV screens in every eco. seat... oh what a georgous aircraft... I sight. I'm sure any passenger will enjoy in boarding in that aircraft.

That's good news

My last flight on PAL was 5 years ago. So yeah, I probably have missed out on the updates. Glad though that we are catching up to global industry standards



I see your point but when an airline doesn't have any, it serves as major disadvantage in our current age. It's an industry standard in the global airline industry and it must be something that should be implemented across all airlines if ever they are to be considered as WORLD CLASS.

Thankfully, the first quote (from ianizers_ianized) clears a few things up with a few updates.



From what I recall, these two airlines (along with Emirates ata) lead the pack as the world's best passenger airline companies.

As of now, my favorite airline is Singapore Airlines and I've ridden it twice on their flights to Singapore.

During my most recent flight with SQ, they already put WISEMEN 5000 (developed by Matsushita Electrical Co, the people behind Panasonic). Basically, it allow more video channels, more radio stations and guess what.......option to choose your own songs and transfer them to a user-defined playlist. You can pick around from a list of more than 5000 songs tapos pwede kang gumawa ng playlist tapos doon mo ilalagay yung mga pinili mong kanta. Excellent feature.

They already implemented this around the time when Evanescene was still popular (around year 2003 ata).

Siguro, since storage technology and in-flight entertainment server systems get cheaper every year, I expect that PAL will get and implement this system (from Economy to First Class) NOT LATER THAN 2011.

So, that's around five years to set it up.

how come PAL is low tech? i mean most of their planes are old..

i don't think so...

how come PAL is low tech? i mean most of their planes are old..

Doesn't matter. Even in Northwest Airlines in US uses DC-9 (The Cebu Pacific's planes). :-) What matters most is the maintenance (how do they maintain their aircraft very well). In fact, there are few flyable DC-3s in the world.

hi fellow forumers,
can we move these aircraft, airline and airplane chats back to the correct thread ? this thread is dedicated to the airport of cebu remember ? salamat po

i think the new terminal planned for cebu airport (T2) should follow the amneties of DIA and the new iloilo airport terminal standards. the city of cebu is representative for tourism and business growth in the philippines. it shoud have glass outlined airconditioned airport comparable to other modern airports nowadays. maybe just a bit smaller, but with expansion possibilities right from the start. have a look at the iloilo terminal renderings, in my opinion this will be THE best provincial airport in the philippines.

i think the new terminal planned for cebu airport (T2) should follow the amneties of DIA and the new iloilo airport terminal standards. the city of cebu is representative for tourism and business growth in the philippines. it shoud have glass outlined airconditioned airport comparable to other modern airports nowadays. maybe just a bit smaller, but with expansion possibilities right from the start. have a look at the iloilo terminal renderings, in my opinion this will be THE best provincial airport in the philippines.

sounds like a NAIA terminal 2 like airport.... that would be great for Cebu :)

yes indeed, something similar like that.

in fact there is something i do not understand. one terminal design for all major airports would save a lot of costs. it could integrate filipino design, materials and blendor modern style with lots of glas to keep it transparent and to be able to watch the aircraft on the tarmac.

^^ yah... i hope the new terminal will integrate filipino design... or some kind of oriental-ish... because we already have have lots of western-ish airoport here in the philippines(like t-3, davao, future dmia).... but in case the design will be western, ill still be happy for cebu... ill support any design they'll choose

what do y mean by future subic, any renderings or plans on the changes ?

^^ im sorry... i mean dmia

^^ yah... i hope the new terminal will integrate filipino design... or some kind of oriental-ish... because we already have have lots of western-ish airoport here in the philippines(like t-3, davao, future dmia).... but in case the design will be western, ill still be happy for cebu... ill support any design they'll choose

i agree... maybe they shoud hire a filipino architect or bobby manosa... i saw his profile and he is a real nationalists, he really makes sure that Filipino designs are integrated in all his work.

^^

The existing MCIAA terminal actually incorporated Filipino design. The roof of the terminal was patterned after the design of a typical "Bahay Kubo."

yes but not very appealing. the old davao terminal is a good example for filipino design.

my vote would be either something modern and maybe they could invibe some nationalistic twist to the design... :rock:

don't like the current design... i think someone said it before.. too mallish looking. but it's just my opinion. :)

maybe they should hold a contest for the airport design. :wink2:

^^

Yeah, the existing airport looks very heavy, dark and drab. If they could build something lighter that looks like the NAIA-2. With that, they can save on energy bills too since they can tap on natural light instead of turning on all lights that run on electricity.

Who designed MCIA ? I am not sure if you guys have discussed it in the past already. I think MCIA should be built the way NAIA T2 is now where both international and domestics are all in the same building which is essentially how MCIA is set up now. I actually like NAIA T2 design and if Cebu government is planning on building T2, why not build a whole new terminal for both international and domestic all together provided that there should have alot of room for expansion. A staight NAIA T2 like design would be great instead of the L shape. I don't mean it like an exact same replica of NAIA 2 okay? just similar to it.

^^ the existing terminal will be used wholly for domestic flights once the new bigger terminal will be built for international flights.

I know Maarkiiboi. I'm aware of that. The current terminal looks like it's getting a bit older and will be cramped in the future, I was just saying that the filipino or cebuanos most especially deserves a world class looking airport for it's domestic passengers and not just the international. Don't get me wrong, the current terminal isn't that bad looking at all. I guess they can just remodel it but I hope when they build T2 it would be in the same vicinity and accessibility to the current terminal building.

Who designed MCIA ? I am not sure if you guys have discussed it in the past already. I think MCIA should be built the way NAIA T2 is now where both international and domestics are all in the same building which is essentially how MCIA is set up now. I actually like NAIA T2 design and if Cebu government is planning on building T2, why not build a whole new terminal for both international and domestic all together provided that there should have alot of room for expansion. A staight NAIA T2 like design would be great instead of the L shape. I don't mean it like an exact same replica of NAIA 2 okay? just similar to it.

If I'm not mistaken bro, I think it was Architect Cañizares who designed the airport but I still have to confirm this with Marvin the architect (Sugbuanon). Cañizares is a top architect here in Cebu.

Actually, the set-up of the airport (the floor plan, etc..) is fine with me. Even the interiors, I find it ok and well-maintained. What I don't like is the exterior. It's so plain and drab. If only the designer have taken advantage of steel, glass, cladding (be it marble or aluminum), etc.. Had they utilized steel for the frames of the terminal and some glass near the roofing, they could have even made the ceiling a bit higher so as to emphasize space and light.

If you've noticed, the facade is so plain concrete that the only solution to make it look vibrant is a simple coat of paint and nothing else. I just wonder how many hollow-blocks and sacks of concrete they spent in building this airport terminal.

Anyhow, if ever the design of the new terminal would come out, then for sure it would be patterned after the modern airports that are being built now in the country-- that of which is made of glass and steel. :)

Have u flown PAL already esp. on long houl flights... i think did not... you should see the "Flight of Fancy", PAL's entertainment program... movies are great esp. Pinoy movies.

I flew PAL from Manila to Los Angeles and from San Francisco to Manila back in 2002. Yes, I do like the movies they show on Flights of Fancy (though sometimes they could be outdated). What I'm looking for is something more than that. All you can do with that TV screen in front of you is watch the show. You can't even play a game because it's not available on PAL. Anyway, I'm not expecting that much from PAL.

Moving on to MCIA...I'm hoping that the terminal will be something impressive even though it's not as large-scale as Suvarnabhumi or Beijing Capital. Cebu's getting a fair number of tourists and welcoming them in a much better airport will give them a better impression of what to expect.

MCIA should have volume ceilings/spaces like this:

http://www.pelipaketti.net/kuvat/e3-2004/e3-2004_04.jpg

http://www.pelipaketti.net/kuvat/e3-2004/e3-2004_06.jpg

http://mark.technolope.org/photo/2004/2004-08-10/dscn3657.jpg

The airport should look big, light and ready to fly :)

^^That one looks good enough for Cebu.

I just hope they'll pick a design that will inspire and make the people proud.

If I'm not mistaken bro, I think it was Architect Cañizares who designed the airport but I still have to confirm this with Marvin the architect (Sugbuanon). Cañizares is a top architect here in Cebu.

Actually, the set-up of the airport (the floor plan, etc..) is fine with me. Even the interiors, I find it ok and well-maintained. What I don't like is the exterior. It's so plain and drab. If only the designer have taken advantage of steel, glass, cladding (be it marble or aluminum), etc.. Had they utilized steel for the frames of the terminal and some glass near the roofing, they could have even made the ceiling a bit higher so as to emphasize space and light.

If you've noticed, the facade is so plain concrete that the only solution to make it look vibrant is a simple coat of paint and nothing else. I just wonder how many hollow-blocks and sacks of concrete they spent in building this airport terminal.

Anyhow, if ever the design of the new terminal would come out, then for sure it would be patterned after the modern airports that are being built now in the country-- that of which is made of glass and steel. :)


Oh, they can do more than just painting the facade, I can see them covering the concrete side with aluminum metal claddings with some glass post or something outside. I wish I have the skill to demonstrate it here better using a photoshop style touching up like some of our computer wizard friends here in SSC Philippines. Here in the US, especially here in the midwest, if an owner or a strip mall or shopping archade wants the entrance of the building to look new so it won't be left behind with how other newer building outside looks like, they just do some remodeling of the facade side and after it finished, it looks like a brand new building.

I never really noticed the low ceiling in the whole MCIA building except in the baggage claim area, down the carousel. The rest of the interior looks okay to me.

pati taga Manila, gusto na Cebu to have a modern airport... we have the same concern here... thanks.

I never really noticed the low ceiling in the whole MCIA building except in the baggage claim area, down the carousel. The rest of the interior looks okay to me.

For me the MCIA's ceiling is too low compared to international airports i've been. T2 in Manila is even much better than MCIA in design and materials used. I like the combination of stainless steel, aluminum, more of glass and light colored granite floor tiles.

is that the airport in cebu?????

^ no...he said it should be like that.

^^ ok... lol
i thought it was...

nope...thats actually the los angeles convention center...funny how they seem to use it in a whole bunch of movies as an airport...

For me the MCIA's ceiling is too low compared to international airports i've been. T2 in Manila is even much better than MCIA in design and materials used. I like the combination of stainless steel, aluminum, more of glass and light colored granite floor tiles.

Of course, T2 in Manila is way much better in all aspects than the 15-yr old MCIAA terminal building.

Yup the ceiling is indeed low. The T2 in Manila really started this new trend of airport designs in the country. I guess it even broadened the minds of some of our architects.

^^ Hey! Is that the LA Convention Center? :)

MCIAA board prioritizes rehabilitation of airport
The Freeman 04/27/2006

The Mactan-Cebu International Airport Authority board has decided to prioritize the rehabilitation of the airport and completion of different projects lined-up this year in preparation of the 12th Association for the holding of the Southeast Asian Nations Summit in Cebu this December.

Governor Gwen Garcia disclosed that the board supported the move of MCIA general manager Adelberto Yap to fast track the implementation of the project.

Garcia said Yap briefed members of the board the status of the projects, which include the rehabilitation of the runway, additional tubes, and paving with asphalt the roads leading to the airport.

Yap is also scheduled to brief members of the ASEAN Summit-Cebu Organizing Committee and the National Organizing Committee in a meeting that President Gloria Arroyo will also attend.

Governor Garcia said all committees are expected to submit their respected updates on the preparations for the Summit, while the contractor of the Cebu International Convention Center will also give its report on the status of the construction.

Last month, Capitol infrastructure consultant Apollo Enriquez informed members of the committee that the project contractor has not encountered any problem so far.

Assistant Secretary Phineas Alburo promised to report the status of his inventory of hotels and beach resorts in Cebu, Mandaue, Lapu-Lapu cities where the more than 4,000 delegates will be accommodated.

Ambassador Marciano Paynor, Jr., chairman of the ASEAN Summit-Cebu Organizing Committee, is expected to brief President Arroyo the overall status of the preparations for the Summit. - Jose P. Sollano

i thought the runway was already fixed months ago...?

i thought the runway was already fixed months ago...?

The said news misinformed again...

Yes. The runway is fixed some time ago. The rehabilitation are they talking now is the terminal.

^^

Garcia said Yap briefed members of the board the status of the projects, which include the rehabilitation of the runway, additional tubes, and paving with asphalt the roads leading to the airport.

The news item is actually correct.

Mr. Yap just briefed the members of the board regarding the status of the projects one of which is the rehabilitation of the runway, which was completed some time ago.. :)