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Fusionist October 24th, 2007, 07:03 PM Sounds good, but how can an airport be constructed in 5 months...especially in Sri Lanka...
where does it say 5 months ? THe general plan is to complete the project by 2011 which is like 4 years. But you are right, there surely will be more delays even with that deadline.
Sidekicker October 29th, 2007, 02:56 AM is our A340 back in sri lanka?
Amal October 29th, 2007, 04:49 PM Sri Lankan Airlines eyes aggressive expansion in India
29 Oct, 2007, 1754 hrs IST, PTI
COIMBATORE: With India contributing one third of its revenue, Sri Lankan Airlines has set its eyes on expanding its operations, by entering more destinations, particularly tier-II cities in the country.
"Sri Lankan Airlines has positioned Colombo as the gateway to India and we are continuously increasing our services... we have seen growth in the metros and want aggressive growth in tier-I cities so that we can present India to the world," Manoj Gunawardena, Head of Worldwide Passenger Sales, said on Monday.
http://www.g-netsolutions.com/images/coimbatore%20map.png
Addressing the media on the occasion of launch of Colombo-Coimbatore flight service, he said there was good potential in cities like Patna, Lucknow, Varanasi, Amritsar, Gaya, Guwahati, Vizag, Bhubaneswar, Ahmedabad and Pune.
In 2006-07, the company had registered a turnover of 68.9 billion Sri Lankan rupees of which Indian operations contributed one third, Gunawardena said.
The airlines was also looking at Mangalore and Madurai in the south for its expansion and had already made a request to the governments in this regard, he said, adding that the company was covering five of the six major cities -- Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore and Hyderabad barring Kolkata.
Stating that the thrice a week Colombo-Coimbatore flight would be made into four days a week next month which would take the airlines total international flights to the 100 mark, he said it had plans to increase the frequency of services from Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad after the completion of the ongoing airport infrastructural expansion works.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Sri_Lankan_Airlines_eyes_aggressive_expansion_in_India/articleshow/2500011.cms
Sidekicker October 29th, 2007, 05:13 PM "he said it had plans to increase the frequency of services from Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad after the completion of the ongoing airport infrastructural expansion works."
Are they talking about Colombo's airport expansion work or Bangalor's and Hyderabads?
Sidekicker October 29th, 2007, 07:43 PM well since they dont have to build aerobridges...cant they just lay out a tarmac and one in 5 months?
saraprobe October 30th, 2007, 09:32 AM The Central Environmental Authority will seek public views on the detailed environment report of the Weerawila Airport.
Its Chairman Udaya Gammanpila said they had to seek more details from the Airport and Aviation Company as the environment evaluation report on the construction of the airport did not contain sufficient details. A detailed report was prepared and handed over to the Authority on the 15th of October. Thereafter it was submitted to the Technical Evaluation Committee on the 19th of October. After perusing it, agreement was reached to solicit public views. Mr. Gammanpila said copies of the report released in English, will also be printed in Sinhala and Tamil for distribution.
Watch video (http://www.itn.lk/news_07_20071029.html)
saraprobe October 31st, 2007, 01:10 PM COIMBATORE: The inaugural passenger flight of SriLankan Airlines (UL115) from Colombo to Coimbatore landed here on Monday morning, making the city the 52nd destination in the world for the Airlines.
The International carrier with the highest frequency in to India with 99 flights a week, to 11 destinations, will operate four flights a week to Coimbatore starting from November 23.“
Till then, there would be three flights a week on Monday, Thursday and Friday. The fourth flight would fly on saturday,’’ said Mayoni de Silva, Sales Manager,Coimbatore.
The other Indian destinations for the SriLankan Airlines includes Chennai, Mumbai, Trivandrum, Kochi, Trichy, Calicut, New Delhi, Hyderabad, Bangalore and Goa.
Speaking to journalists at the inaugural function, Manoj Gunawardena, Head of Worldwide Passenger Sales, said, the Airlines would bridge the gap between India, West and the Middle East.
“SriLankan Airlines had positioned Colombo as the gateway to India, and we were continuosly increasing our services,’’ he said.
He also pointed out that the 100th flight a week to India would fly on November 27 and was looking at Madurai as the next destination in Tamil Nadu.“Our target was to enter 20 tier- 2 cities in India and we were looking at Mangalore and Madurai, in the near future,’’ he said.
He further added that the Airlines was planning to expand their operations to Bangalore, Hyderabad and Delhi. Senaka Fernando, Regional Manager, Indian Subcontinent & Maldives, said that the new service to coimbatore would be useful to many segments, especially for businessmen ,leisure traveller and those who visit for relatives and friends.
He said that SriLanka was a popular destination among Indian tourists for its value-for-money shopping, diverse climates and landscapes, and ancient cultural sites.
Early in the day, K Hemalatha, the Coimbatore Airport Director, welcomed the arrival of the first passenger flight to Coimbatore from Colombo and spelt out the expansion plans of the airport in the city.
She said that nearly Rs 80 crore had been approved for upgradating Coimbatore airport and pointed out that the preparatory works like soil testing would commence soon.
Source (http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IET20071030012534&Page=T&Headline=SriLankan+inaugural+flight+lands+in+Kovai&Title=Southern+News+%2D+Tamil+Nadu&Topic=0)
phil.froelich October 31st, 2007, 06:00 PM Great news...
phil.froelich October 31st, 2007, 06:06 PM OMG when will THIS project final come of the ground...
cbeboy October 31st, 2007, 07:56 PM COIMBATORE: The inaugural passenger flight of SriLankan Airlines (UL115) from Colombo to Coimbatore landed here on Monday morning, making the city the 52nd destination in the world for the Airlines.
very good news that Srilankan Airlines is understanding the potential of TIER-II of India like Coimbatore and introducing its services...
saraprobe November 1st, 2007, 03:23 AM OMG when will THIS project final come of the ground...
This bloody Central Environmental Authority is trying to block the project, but I suppose if MR loose his tolerance sorry for CEA:lol:
justy November 1st, 2007, 09:07 AM Austrian airline were resumed vianna - colombo - male route from 1st nov onwards. it's confirmed that OS45 was landed today at BIA & departed to male maldives.
:banana::banana::banana:
Fusionist November 2nd, 2007, 10:30 PM I think UL is making more profit out of these short hops rather than long hauls. Hence the over keeness into tapping into the Indian market. However in the long run, to be a true 'gateway to India' UL has to look to connecting the US,Canada and Australia with India through Colombo.
Here is my wishlist :
1. Colombo >> Zurich ( stop over transit ) >> New York. ( 4 days aa week )
2. Colombo >> Paris ( stop over transit ) >> Toronto. ( 3 days a week )
3. a). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Johanesburg & Cape Town ( 3 days a week )
b). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Cape Town & Mauritius ( 2 days a week )
c). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >>Johanesburgh & Mauritius ( 2 days a week ).
4. a). Bangalore & Chennai >> Colombo ( merge/demerge/reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Los Angeles & San Fransisco ( 4 days a week with feul stop at Taipei )
b). Bangalore & Chennai >> Colombo ( merge/demerge/reshuffle 2 flights + transit ) >>Taipei & Hong Kong ( 3 days a week ).
5. a). Mumbai & Hyderabad >> Colombo ( merge/reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Sydney & Melbourne ( 4 days a week )
b). Chennai & Bangalore >> Colombo ( merge/reshuffle flights + transit ) >> Sydney & Melbourne ( 3 days a week ).
Any suggestions ?
Sidekicker November 3rd, 2007, 06:29 AM hmm yeah good ideas but I think we should get new planes first
saraprobe November 3rd, 2007, 11:14 AM hmm yeah good ideas but I think we should get new planes first
Yep, clearly we need more fleets for expansion:):)
Fusionist November 3rd, 2007, 12:26 PM hmm yeah good ideas but I think we should get new planes first
ofcourse any new plans will need new fleet. For example about 8 new planes. A340s and Boing 747 or 777s ?
Sidekicker November 4th, 2007, 01:32 AM i doubt sri lankan would get boeings...i think they will stick to airbus but i think emirates and sri lankan will announce their orders at the dubai airshow! i really really hope they do at least! I'm tired of waiting! haha
phil.froelich November 4th, 2007, 09:51 AM Yeah about 8 to 15 new airbus planes in the next 5-8 year maybe a few extra to replace old planes...
uzman November 4th, 2007, 10:22 PM will sri lankan airlines increase its flights to karachi or is it planing to start fligths to lahore?
Amal November 5th, 2007, 02:39 PM will sri lankan airlines increase its flights to karachi or is it planing to start fligths to lahore?
Not sure... If I am not wrong I think the the traffic between SL and Pakistan is not that big, which is unfortunate. However I think UL would do well if it could fly Delhi-Lahore/Islamabad. Or Lahore-London :) But I don't think they have the rights.
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I was just wondering is the EK-UL deal going to be renewed or not? Because it's November and it expires in March next year, what's taking so long?
Amal November 5th, 2007, 02:41 PM ofcourse any new plans will need new fleet. For example about 8 new planes. A340s and Boing 747 or 777s ?
I don't think UL would go for 747s - these are old birds now and production ceased this year. I'm thinking more A330s, A350s and possibly 787s?
Amal November 5th, 2007, 02:43 PM I think UL is making more profit out of these short hops rather than long hauls. Hence the over keeness into tapping into the Indian market. However in the long run, to be a true 'gateway to India' UL has to look to connecting the US,Canada and Australia with India through Colombo.
Here is my wishlist :
1. Colombo >> Zurich ( stop over transit ) >> New York. ( 4 days aa week )
2. Colombo >> Paris ( stop over transit ) >> Toronto. ( 3 days a week )
3. a). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Johanesburg & Cape Town ( 3 days a week )
b). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Cape Town & Mauritius ( 2 days a week )
c). Mumbai & Delhi >> Colombo ( merge & reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >>Johanesburgh & Mauritius ( 2 days a week ).
4. a). Bangalore & Chennai >> Colombo ( merge/demerge/reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Los Angeles & San Fransisco ( 4 days a week with feul stop at Taipei )
b). Bangalore & Chennai >> Colombo ( merge/demerge/reshuffle 2 flights + transit ) >>Taipei & Hong Kong ( 3 days a week ).
5. a). Mumbai & Hyderabad >> Colombo ( merge/reshuffle the 2 flights + transit ) >> Sydney & Melbourne ( 4 days a week )
b). Chennai & Bangalore >> Colombo ( merge/reshuffle flights + transit ) >> Sydney & Melbourne ( 3 days a week ).
Any suggestions ?
UL used to have flights to South Africa and Mauritius (I think), but they weren't profitable. But I think Sydney and Melbourne would work as there are large Sri Lankan diasporas in these two cities. Europe - US would be a good market too, Air India does it.
Sidekicker November 6th, 2007, 03:28 AM speaking of mauritius, airbus just built their first A330! I wish that plane would go to sri lankan lol. Air Mauritius's livery kinda looks like Air Lankas old livery lol
phil.froelich November 8th, 2007, 06:07 AM Haha...
saraprobe November 9th, 2007, 11:12 PM THE FIRST Boeing 767 Austrian Airlines non stop flight from Vienna to Colombo landed at the Bandaranaike International Airport, Katunayake on Thursday the November 1 when the airline resumed its operation after the short interruption of services to Colombo.
Country Manager in Sri Lanka Rajitha Seneviratne along with the station staff headed by Station Manager
http://i2.tinypic.com/6ta2lqf.jpg
Welcome: Cabin crew of Austrian Airlines greeted on arrival at Bandaranaike International Airport in Sri Lanka.
Samantha Gamage were at the airport to welcome the passengers and crew on board this flight.
The most attractive feature were the cabin crew dressed in their striking red uniform created by the famous Austrian designer Sabine Kreuzspiegel highlighting an elegant look blending in both classic and modern styles.
Austrian Airline is known for its exclusive standards and the airline recently launched its new business class seats on their Boeing 767 and 777 fleets with fully stretchable beds and generously proportioned table or desk which can bring the seat from sleep position to relax position at the touch a button.
The other unique feature of the cabin service is having your own personal chef on board business class offering meticulously prepared six to eight course gourmet food on board.
Brown and Company are the general sales agents for Austrian Airlines in Sri Lanka.
DM (http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/11/10/bus17.asp#Austrian_)
Fusionist November 10th, 2007, 12:48 AM UL used to have flights to South Africa and Mauritius (I think), but they weren't profitable. But I think Sydney and Melbourne would work as there are large Sri Lankan diasporas in these two cities. Europe - US would be a good market too, Air India does it.
I think the UL flights to Southern Africa and Australia won't be profitable if they try connect it with Colombo only. But if they try connect India as an extension to these destinations I am sure there will be more patronage. If they are direct connections I am sure UL won't be able to get the flying rights in India, but if they operate as 'stop over transits' with reshuffling passengers from flights in Colombo plus boarding new pasengers in Colombo, I am sure they can make profit out of these routes. Same way I would think of using Colombo as a transit hub for Europe to Australia flights aswell.. like what Emirates does with Dubai.
saraprobe November 10th, 2007, 08:40 AM I think the UL flights to Southern Africa and Australia won't be profitable if they try connect it with Colombo only. But if they try connect India as an extension to these destinations I am sure there will be more patronage. If they are direct connections I am sure UL won't be able to get the flying rights in India, but if they operate as 'stop over transits' with reshuffling passengers from flights in Colombo plus boarding new pasengers in Colombo, I am sure they can make profit out of these routes. Same way I would think of using Colombo as a transit hub for Europe to Australia flights aswell.. like what Emirates does with Dubai.
Why not so many people got no choice but to fly with emirates, sin'pore, Malaysia or Thai due to this long haul flight, I am really disappointed, yep as u said they can lure as many as Indian travelers:ohno:
TallBox November 10th, 2007, 07:49 PM Surely UL flying to Australia would be hugely profitable? Massive diaspora there.
Maybe they should open routes and time landings such that departures to Europe from CMB will be only a few hours after the Australia arrival. That way, CMB can be used as a transit hub for pax AUS-CMB-EUR.
But I think it's high time, UL launched services to Australia.
Sidekicker November 12th, 2007, 01:50 AM Ok so has the Dubai Airshow started yet? Emirates' order for 50(?) A350's came early...does anyone think any of those will go to Sri Lankan?
Sidekicker November 12th, 2007, 01:51 AM Does Mihin Lanka use the Fokker F-27 on any of their routes?
lordvader November 12th, 2007, 02:21 AM Ok so has the Dubai Airshow started yet? Emirates' order for 50(?) A350's came early...does anyone think any of those will go to Sri Lankan?
Probably, however it depends on the management contract. If it had been renewed by now Im sure they wouldve announced any future fleet plans, however it isnt the case. Since the management contract runs for 5 years (correct if wrong) I would think they would go with more intermediate aircraft such as A330/40 or 777s.
aviational November 12th, 2007, 05:03 PM Guys Will Srilankan start flights to Australia next year?
How about a direct flight to Aukland?
aviational November 12th, 2007, 05:31 PM Guys! look at this powerpoint presentation.
www.treasury.gov.lk/EPPRM/erd/otherdocs/presentation-secretaryports-aviation.ppt -[/URL]
Fusionist November 13th, 2007, 12:43 AM Surely UL flying to Australia would be hugely profitable? Massive diaspora there.
Well I am not sure if we can rely on the diaspora alone. For example there more Lankans in London still if you look at the flights it is 50% tousits plus transit passengers to South India. Besides UL operates flights via Male to keep their London daily flights profitable. Thediaspora is Australia is lesser than what we have in London and is dispersed. ie Sydney, Melbourne and even Brisbane Adelaide Perth etc. I think wooing Indian passengers is the safer option and/or runnig routes like Melbourne via Sydney rather than flying only to Sydney or to Melbourne.
Fusionist November 13th, 2007, 12:45 AM Does Mihin Lanka use the Fokker F-27 on any of their routes?
I was wondering about that too. I hope they don't :D.
justy November 13th, 2007, 05:59 AM Guys! look at this powerpoint presentation.
www.treasury.gov.lk/EPPRM/erd/otherdocs/presentation-secretaryports-aviation.ppt -[/URL]
great developments for the nation:banana::banana:
phil.froelich November 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM Good stuff...
phil.froelich November 13th, 2007, 03:06 PM Yep, gotta agree with fusionist...
Sidekicker November 15th, 2007, 05:24 AM so has everyone heard? Sri lankan and mihin lanka are supposed to have a very good winter season as tourism is returning back to pre-tiger attacks. By the way did the dubai airshow end? Cause I didn't hear if any orders for Sri lankan yet!!!!!
lordvader November 16th, 2007, 12:27 AM ^^^^
No orders yet. As I said above both Govt and Emirates have to resign the management contract before any long term commitments are made.
Amal November 19th, 2007, 01:01 PM SriLankan Airlines plans to sell Indian Railways' inventory at Colombo Airport
Initial sales will be for trains, ex-Delhi
Monday, November 19, 2007 (10:00 IST)
By Bhisham Mansukhani | New Delhi
SriLankan Airlines plans to sell Indian Railways' inventory to India-bound passengers at Colombo Airport, initially for routes out of Delhi and subsequently for most or all of the 11 destinations that the airline flies to in India, with a current total of 99 flights. The airline, which has check-in counters for its flights at railway stations in Belgium, is currently in discussion with Indian Railways for having a precisely opposite arrangement whereby it will offer passengers the facility to book Indian Railways' tickets, according to Dimuthu Tennakoon, Manager - Maharashtra and Gujarat, SriLankan Airlines. He added, "Delhi is the first destination for which this arrangement will be implemented but a similar arrangement for South Indian destinations is also very likely since a lot of our India-bound passengers flying in from Colombo opt for flights to Chennai and Hyderabad and then travel up north by train."
While international airlines have interline agreements with most Indian domestic carriers for onward connections and feeder services to and from destinations that the former don't fly to, SriLankan Airlines' arrangement with Indian Railways, when it materialises, will be an undeniable precedent and may open the avenue for similar tie-ups between Indian Railways and other carriers. Industry experts say that an advanced model could also be pursued in future, wherein international carriers could contract massive inventory blocks on designated routes in deals akin to codeshare agreements, thereby combining the flight and train journey under a single Passenger Name Record (PNR). In fact, in June this year, TravelBiz Monitor had reported that International Air Transport Association (IATA) - India was in talks with Indian Railways regarding integration of airline and rail inventory on a single operational platform.
http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/articleDetails.aspx?id=1518§ionid=36&name=Top%20Stories
phil.froelich November 19th, 2007, 04:43 PM Good venture...
jaybob November 22nd, 2007, 04:26 PM Just want to say to you guys on this thread. How great CMB airport is know. Cant believe all the improvemnets made. Flew through there last week and actually it was so much nicer than Heathrow. All they need now are direct flights to Aus/NZ to turn it into a really good regional hub. Pleasure to be there
saraprobe November 22nd, 2007, 11:27 PM Just want to say to you guys on this thread. How great CMB airport is know. Cant believe all the improvemnets made. Flew through there last week and actually it was so much nicer than Heathrow. All they need now are direct flights to Aus/NZ to turn it into a really good regional hub. Pleasure to be there
Yep, we are keeping our fingers crossed, how ever all these dreams likely to follow with Emirates agreement:)
Sidekicker November 23rd, 2007, 01:16 AM hey jaybob....did you take any pictures?? if ya did PLEASE post!!!! lol
jaybob November 23rd, 2007, 02:14 PM No unfortunately not. wasnt sure on the security issue. We had just stayed in Colombo and were told about taking photos near military sites etc. Have to say the air bridge has made a real difference. My daughter loved the moving walkways. Cant wait to see if they go ahead with the idea if a second runway and airbridge. Keep up the good work
saraprobe November 23rd, 2007, 11:26 PM No unfortunately not. wasnt sure on the security issue. We had just stayed in Colombo and were told about taking photos near military sites etc. Have to say the air bridge has made a real difference. My daughter loved the moving walkways. Cant wait to see if they go ahead with the idea if a second runway and airbridge. Keep up the good work
Second stage has been approved & due to start in feb 08!
Sidekicker November 24th, 2007, 03:13 AM second stage??? what are you talking about?? what are the details of the second stage?? how do you know? haha!! it sounds exciting!!!
Sidekicker November 24th, 2007, 03:14 AM when is sri lankan supposed to start Vijayawada? It seems like its a big city that should have been started before coimbitore. and by the way has anyone seen this photo?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/terenceong/2056810144/ is that a new plane for mihin lanka? anyone know which airline that used to belong to?
justy November 24th, 2007, 06:06 AM [/IMG]when is sri lankan supposed to start Vijayawada? It seems like its a big city that should have been started before coimbitore. and by the way has anyone seen this photo?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/terenceong/2056810144/ is that a new plane for mihin lanka? anyone know which airline that used to belong to?
it's glad to hear that Mihin added one more fleet for the services. it was by last month. hope no more delays or cancelations further....
www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a320-305.htm
http://www.myaviation.net/search/display_photo.file
saraprobe November 24th, 2007, 11:16 AM second stage??? what are you talking about?? what are the details of the second stage?? how do you know? haha!! it sounds exciting!!!
It was on media release under cabinet decisions^^
www.treasury.gov.lk/EPPRM/erd/otherdocs/presentation-secretaryports-aviation.ppt
aviational November 24th, 2007, 05:39 PM Hey! Guys what these people are trying to do?:ohno:
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/071118/News/news00027.html
aviational November 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM :banana: :banana: :banana:
I got to know that srilanka aviational officials are trying to get VIRGIN ATLANTIC to BIA-colombo.Because,there is a big passenger traffic between london & colombo.So there is a need of another airline to cover this sector.Alredy virgin fly's to Mumbai and New Delhi.
It will be a great achivement if VIRGIN starts flying to colombo.Also officials should try to get BRITISH AIRWAYS back.
Sidekicker November 24th, 2007, 10:46 PM How do you know virgin Atlantic is coming to BIA? Source? oh yeah and that power point presentation for phase 2 of BIA....is that the real plan? or did someone make it up? If its real when is construction going to start/finish?
Sidekicker November 24th, 2007, 10:49 PM Hey! Guys what these people are trying to do?:ohno:
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/071118/News/news00027.html
I dont understand what that artical is trying to say. Are they selling Sri lankan's a340s? Or what?
Sidekicker November 24th, 2007, 10:52 PM [/IMG]
it's glad to hear that Mihin added one more fleet for the services. it was by last month. hope no more delays or cancelations further....
www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a320-305.htm
http://www.myaviation.net/search/display_photo.file
so what your saying Is mihin lankas total fleet is 3 planes? 2 a320s and 1 a321? The registration number on the new a320 seems like its the same on the first one.
Amal November 25th, 2007, 04:04 AM The 100th flight is on November 27 I think....
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4265/666744ac0.jpg
http://www.srilankan.aero/100flights
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phil.froelich November 25th, 2007, 05:01 PM Why are they making it so cheap...
aviational November 25th, 2007, 05:21 PM I dont understand what that artical is trying to say. Are they selling Sri lankan's a340s? Or what?
there planing to sell the three A340 which is owened by the airline.And going to buy the same modle(A340).
But why should sell and buy the same modle.They can buy A350 or A340-600s.
aviational November 25th, 2007, 05:54 PM How do you know virgin Atlantic is coming to BIA? Source? oh yeah and that power point presentation for phase 2 of BIA....is that the real plan? or did someone make it up? If its real when is construction going to start/finish?
Sorry! my friend.This news(about VIRGIN) was on a local news paper call LANKADEEPA(18-11-2007 edition).There is a section call LONDON LIVUMA(LONDON LETTER),which a srilankan reporter writes from london.I serched for this artical on the web.But I could not fined.As soon as i get it i will post it.
The power point presentation for phase 2 of BIA, was done by the treasury of SL GOV.But no news on letest developments:dunno:
lordvader November 26th, 2007, 01:57 AM so what your saying Is mihin lankas total fleet is 3 planes? 2 a320s and 1 a321? The registration number on the new a320 seems like its the same on the first one.
According to the following website they gave back the old A320 and inducted this new one in: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Mihin%20Air.htm
Sidekicker November 26th, 2007, 03:38 AM Sorry! my friend.This news(about VIRGIN) was on a local news paper call LANKADEEPA(18-11-2007 edition).There is a section call LONDON LIVUMA(LONDON LETTER),which a srilankan reporter writes from london.I serched for this artical on the web.But I could not fined.As soon as i get it i will post it.
The power point presentation for phase 2 of BIA, was done by the treasury of SL GOV.But no news on letest developments:dunno:
oh okay, thanks!...yeah but that phase 2 for BIA on the presentation looks PERFECT!!! Its even better than what i imagined in my head haha!:nuts::lol:
Sidekicker November 26th, 2007, 03:40 AM there planing to sell the three A340 which is owened by the airline.And going to buy the same modle(A340).
But why should sell and buy the same modle.They can buy A350 or A340-600s.
hmm true, well i hope they sell them after the new planes are delivered from airbus. maybe sri lankan will get A340-300E's (enhanced) liked Finnair did!
Sidekicker November 26th, 2007, 03:43 AM According to the following website they gave back the old A320 and inducted this new one in: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Mihin%20Air.htm
hmm wow!...i have NOO idea why in the world they would return that plane, they have sooo many delays already! Just today (sunday) their website said that had only 2 flights: one to Dubai, and one to Gaya (delayed), then i checked later and the Gaya flights was taken off and the dubai flight was delayed!! how can an airline be profitable if their flights are delayed all the time??:ohno:
phil.froelich November 26th, 2007, 12:39 PM I think we will continue imagining unless a miracle does happen or a government will do most of the work on the project, like what the Japanese did on the recent construction/improvement of the airport.....
sjinadasa November 26th, 2007, 02:04 PM Hey, could one of you guys be kind enough to post what is in store for bia according to the presentation. I an not very keen about the idea of downloading 10mb file via wap. Thanks.
Fusionist November 26th, 2007, 10:14 PM Just want to say to you guys on this thread. How great CMB airport is know. Cant believe all the improvemnets made. Flew through there last week and actually it was so much nicer than Heathrow. All they need now are direct flights to Aus/NZ to turn it into a really good regional hub. Pleasure to be there
thanks for that but I still think ther is room for improvement in the airbridge/walkway region. Having been through BIA thrice in a month it actually gets a bit stale as there is not much to do once you pass the duty free. The walkway is cool, airy and clean but wish it was a bit broader. The glassy sitting area in the Gates have some fantastic view of the planes but has some serious problems aswell. There is virtually nothing you can do once you enter it as the ground staff officially 'embark' you on entering this zone. There is NO toilet or any other facilities. All that it has it seats, couple of televisions, one telephone and a reservation seat for the clergy. Apart from that you have to sit it out and the sitting area becomes a glass 'prison' especially if the wait to enter the plane is long ( sometimes even upto 1 hour ). I wish they would add more features to this area and learn to embark passengers only when they are about to board the plane and not when they enter the Gates.
Sidekicker November 27th, 2007, 12:28 AM thanks for that but I still think ther is room for improvement in the airbridge/walkway region. Having been through BIA thrice in a month it actually gets a bit stale as there is not much to do once you pass the duty free. The walkway is cool, airy and clean but wish it was a bit broader. The glassy sitting area in the Gates have some fantastic view of the planes but has some serious problems aswell. There is virtually nothing you can do once you enter it as the ground staff officially 'embark' you on entering this zone. There is NO toilet or any other facilities. All that it has it seats, couple of televisions, one telephone and a reservation seat for the clergy. Apart from that you have to sit it out and the sitting area becomes a glass 'prison' especially if the wait to enter the plane is long ( sometimes even upto 1 hour ). I wish they would add more features to this area and learn to embark passengers only when they are about to board the plane and not when they enter the Gates.
OMG! thats sooo true fusionist! When you are outside of that sitting area, there is barely any view of the planes which makes me sad.. all they need is just one security check point to enter the terminal, then they can take down the walls seperating the waiting rooms and it feel much more roomier in the terminal! It gets sooo croweded at peak hours in there!:nuts:
lordvader November 27th, 2007, 12:55 AM hmm true, well i hope they sell them after the new planes are delivered from airbus. maybe sri lankan will get A340-300E's (enhanced) liked Finnair did!
I think theyd be looking at A350s and A340-600s mainly due to the fact that conversion would be easier from existing aircraft. A340-300s are now pretty old aircraft as well
hmm wow!...i have NOO idea why in the world they would return that plane, they have sooo many delays already!
Probably because they wet leased the aircraft with crew for a specified amount of time (couple of months only). They really need to obtain some dry leased aircraft (from companies such as ILFC, that can be kept for a couple of years) and train local pilots and crews to takeover duties as well.
Sidekicker November 27th, 2007, 03:34 AM I think theyd be looking at A350s and A340-600s mainly due to the fact that conversion would be easier from existing aircraft. A340-300s are now pretty old aircraft as well
would A340-600s even fit in the parking spaces at BIA? haha i've always wondered that! I dont think A340-600 are very efficient though :-(
Probably because they wet leased the aircraft with crew for a specified amount of time (couple of months only). They really need to obtain some dry leased aircraft (from companies such as ILFC, that can be kept for a couple of years) and train local pilots and crews to takeover duties as well.
hmm wow...they really need to lease more aircraft! ...for phase 2 of the BIA construction, there are tarmacs for domestic planes! i hope mihin lanka can get more aircraft to actually use the tarmacs! :crazy2:
justy November 27th, 2007, 05:30 AM http://www.lakbima.lk/img/nov--27-i.jpg
Mihin Lanka on a state visits with Mr. President
saraprobe November 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM SriLankan Airlines wants a new management contract to be signed soon with Dubai-owned Emirates, chief executive Peter Hill said Tuesday, forecasting a "tough" year for the island's carrier.
The Colombo government is holding another meeting on January 8 with Emirates to discuss the renewal of the 10-year management contract of SriLankan Airlines that runs out next March, an airline official said.
"The negotiations between the government and Emirates have been going on for 18 months. I would have liked to have seen them resolved by now," Hill told reporters in New Delhi.
The Sri Lankan national carrier, in which Emirates holds a 43.6 percent stake, needs a decision to push ahead with its business plans that include expanding its fleet to 30 aircraft by 2013 from the current 14, he said.
Hill was in the Indian capital to announce that SriLankan Airlines had become the first foreign carrier to operate 100 flights a week to India and hoped to boost that number to 150 in five years.
SriLankan Airlines entered into the strategic partnership with Emirates in 1998 in which the Colombo government retained a majority stake, but gave full power to Emirates to run the airline.
Media reports say the Sri Lankan government wants a bigger role in managing the carrier and that Emirates opposes such a move. The reports have also said that the government has complained the contract is "heavily tilted" financially in favour of Emirates, which has declared it is keen to have a new deal.
Hill declined to comment on the reports.
He said he expected the airline's profits this year would be better than in 2006-07. But he added it would still "be a tough year" for the airline with the escalation in Sri Lanka's ethnic separatist conflict deterring foreign tourists and fuel costs nearly one-third higher than initially expected.
As new tourist destinations open up, any country that suffers civil unrest is bound "not to be on the top of everybody's popularity list," said Hill.
SriLankan Airlines Group posted a post-tax profit of 862.18 million Sri Lankan rupees (7.8 million dollars) for the financial year to March 31, 2007, a drop of 50 percent from the previous year.
Hill said Emirates and Colombo were discussing a five-year contract as another 10-year contract would be too long in a fast-evolving aviation market.
Aviation experts say the two sides' codesharing and other links meant that dissolving the partnership would cause big headaches for both airlines.
"We (the airline management) don't get involved in the negotiations," Hill said, but added that "all our plans are based on a new deal being agreed."
The airline's fleet expansion was likely to involve a "50-50" mix of narrow-bodied and wide-bodied aircraft, he said.
The decade-long tie-up with Emirates had vastly improved the catering, punctuality and overall reputation of the Sri Lankan airline, Hill said.
"We have a new brand, a new level of service. We are now taken very seriously by all our competitors."
©2007 AFP
cbeboy November 28th, 2007, 10:19 AM Sri Lankan Airlines to increase operations to India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Sri_Lankan_Airlines_to_increase_operations_to_India/articleshow/2575786.cms)
Sri Lanka's national carrier Sri Lankan Airlines on Tuesday said it is planning to increase its operations to and from India by adding 50 new flights to its already existing 100 weekly flights over the next five years.
"The airline has been steadily increasing its operations in India since 2003. We will increase our operations to India by 150 flights per week in next five years," Sri Lankan Airlines Chief Executive Officer Peter Hill said.
It recently started direct flights between Coimbatore and Colombo last month and presently connects 11 Indian towns with Sri Lanka.
The carrier operates flights from Chennai, Mumbai, New Delhi, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Trichy, Trivandrum, Kochi and Calicut, Hill added.
Apart from connecting 11 Indian cities with Sri Lanka, the airline is also planning to start direct operations from India to parts of Europe and middle-east.
"The airlines wants to connect south Indian cities to Europe, Middle east and Far east. We also have the option of explore 15 tier II Indian cities like Varanasi, Bhubaneshwar, Port Blair, Guwahati, Jaipur and others," SriLankan Airlines, Head of Worldwide Passenger Sales Manoj Gunawardena said.
Sri Lankan carried 1.1 million passengers to and from India in 2006-07, which accounted for 35 per cent of the airline's global traffic.
As part of its celebrations on starting 100 weekly flights from India, it is offering 1,100 return tickets between Colombo and its 11 Indian destinations at Rs 100 each.
The airline has a global code share agreement with Emirates which presently accounts for 46 per cent of its overall load-factor. The agreement is supposed to end by March next year.
phil.froelich November 29th, 2007, 05:05 PM Come on lets continue with the Emirates success story, without dragging it out, love the plans for India expansion...
SLion November 30th, 2007, 03:43 PM Pictures, PLEASE!!!
Amal December 3rd, 2007, 12:19 PM http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7908/srivp4.gif
Mahima, Tanushree and Shweta salve at Srilankan Airlines bash
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SriLankan Airlines scores a century in India
Peter Hill, CEO of SriLankan, said: “The launch of our 100th weekly flight to India will be a historic occasion for the airline and it will make us the largest international carrier into India, flying from 11 Indian cities to Colombo and onwards to 54 worldwide destinations.”
“SriLankan Airlines is extremely proud to be the first foreign carrier in history to fly one hundred times a week to India. We recognised very early the important role that India plays in this part of the world, and we have been steadily increasing the number of flights, and the cities that we serve.”
So this was the moment to organize a party to enjoy the occasion. The party took place at the Mumbai JW Marriott Hotel. Some of the top media personalities and Bollywood stars were present. So enjoy these pics from SriLankan Airlines bash.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8822/newnn8.jpg
http://www.bollyone.com/bollywood_gallery/images/Srilankan_Airlines_bash_BOLLYONE.COM_7.jpg
http://www.bollywoodblog.com/category/Parties-and-Events/Lankan-cricketers-party-with-Bollywood-babes-Mahima-n-Tanushree-Mumbai/16025_DSC_9027.jpg
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http://www.bollyone.com/bollywood_gallery/images/Srilankan_Airlines_bash_BOLLYONE.COM_8.jpg
http://www.bollywoodblog.com/category/Parties-and-Events/Lankan-cricketers-party-with-Bollywood-babes-Mahima-n-Tanushree-Mumbai/16010_DSC_9142.jpg
http://www.bollywoodblog.com/category/Parties-and-Events/Lankan-cricketers-party-with-Bollywood-babes-Mahima-n-Tanushree-Mumbai/16016_DSC_9101.jpg
SLion December 3rd, 2007, 02:52 PM I mean pictures of planes! ;)
saraprobe December 3rd, 2007, 11:22 PM Keep it up Sri Lankan, please don't ever again fall in to Gov hands:bash:
Amal December 4th, 2007, 03:21 PM SriLankan Airlines to renew its management contract with Emirates
Tuesday, December 04, 2007 (14:00 IST)
By Mayuresh Pawar | Mumbai
SriLankan Airlines, which has been witnessing growth in load factors and route network post entering into a management contract with Emirates and going in for re-branding, has decided to renew the 10-year management contract that is due for expiry in March, 2008. Currently, negotiations are on between the two airlines and the contract is expected to be signed by April next year. Currently, Emirates has 40 per cent stake in the airline and while it has proposed to buy more stake, SriLankan Airlines is looking at increasing its own profitability. With a view to enhance its profits, the airline has proposed that it should be allowed to use two of the 50 Airbus A380, which will be delivered to Emirates by early 2009. SriLankan Airlines is planning to deploy these two aircraft on Indian routes.
"We will be signing the new management contract with Emirates once all the negotiations are finalised," Peter Hill, Chief Executive Officer, SriLankan Airlines, confirmed on the sidelines of a party held recently in Mumbai to celebrate the airline's achievement of 100 weekly flights to India.
http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/articleDetails.aspx?id=1637§ionid=36&name=Top%20Stories
SLion December 4th, 2007, 03:51 PM A SriLankan A380!!!
Amal December 4th, 2007, 05:03 PM What it might look like:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3685/srilankanzk7.jpg
Courtesy: MARIO GASPARELLA - Italy, from modified airliner photos
Sidekicker December 4th, 2007, 10:56 PM are you serious????????????? an A380???? that just blew my mind!!! loL!!! please tell me this is true!!! ohhh wow!!
saraprobe December 5th, 2007, 12:02 AM wow, awesome news
Fusionist December 5th, 2007, 01:43 AM are you serious????????????? an A380???? that just blew my mind!!! loL!!! please tell me this is true!!! ohhh wow!!
I think it is a modified photo. Also I don't think BIA runway can handle A380s. But yes it would be great to have couple of A380s in the fleet.
Sidekicker December 5th, 2007, 04:55 AM I think it is a modified photo. Also I don't think BIA runway can handle A380s. But yes it would be great to have couple of A380s in the fleet.
Ohh i know its not a real picture but its sooo exciting that this is happening!...with the new tarmac and terminal at BIA....i think they could support the A380...or maybe 2! hahaha:banana: i'm sooo excited!!:nuts:
saraprobe December 5th, 2007, 09:42 AM Ohh i know its not a real picture but its sooo exciting that this is happening!...with the new tarmac and terminal at BIA....i think they could support the A380...or maybe 2! hahaha:banana: i'm sooo excited!!:nuts:
So am I, awesome:banana::banana:
phil.froelich December 5th, 2007, 06:56 PM Lets hope we get the A380 and some A350s etc.
Sidekicker December 6th, 2007, 03:45 AM Lets hope we get the A380 and some A350s etc.
I'm sure we will actually since Emirates bought sooo many!
Amal December 6th, 2007, 06:42 AM SriLankan Airlines introduces On-Line Check-In facility
Thursday, December 06, 2007
SriLankan Airlines’ passengers no longer need to queue up to check-in at Colombo’s Bandaranaike International Airport, with the launch of the airline’s On-Line Check-In facility.
Passengers even have the luxury of choosing their own seat on the aircraft, through the remarkably easy to use system!
Nigel O’Shea, Head of Service Delivery, said “On-Line Check-In is a major initiative that is part of our ongoing project to improve the convenience for everyone travelling on SriLankan Airlines. It allows our passengers to select the seat they would like before they come to the airport, and it considerably reduces the time spent in the check-in area.”
The facility will initially be for single sector travel (direct flights without stopovers) from Bandaranaike International Airport (BIA) to 31 of SriLankan’s destinations throughout Europe, the Middle East, the Indian Subcontinent, Southeast Asia and the Far East. It will next be extended to multiple sector flights, and will also be introduced worldwide at the airline’s other points of departure for flights into BIA and other destinations.
Kamal Nanayakkara, Head of IT, said: “On-Line Check-in has already been proven elsewhere in the global airline industry, and we are confident that our passengers too will benefit immensely by it. It can be done from your home, office, or even on the move through your laptop and very soon with the hand phone. This is in-line with IATA initiatives for simplifying the business where BIA Check-in system was recently upgraded to accommodate barcode boarding passes for the benefit of all operating carriers, thus joining the very few airports in this region having this capability.”
On-Line Check-In opens 24 hours before a flight and continues up to 2 hours before the flight. One could even check-in groups of passengers, if the required information and reference numbers are available.
A passenger simply needs to visit SriLankan’s website www.srilankan.aero and click on “On-line check-in”. The next step is to merely key in four simple entries - name, airport, flight number, and booking reference or Skywards frequent flyer number.
Passengers en route to a country that requires Advanced Passenger Information (API) such as the US and UK, need to enter some additional information such as passport number, date of birth, and sex.
The system will automatically assign a seat, which the passenger can change through a user-friendly chart that shows the aircraft’s seating plan, identifying reserved seats in a different colour.
The Boarding Pass is then displayed on screen, with all necessary details. Passengers may take a printout of their boarding pass if they wish, although it is not required since he or she can produce the e-ticket at the airport and receive a printout of the Boarding Pass from SriLankan staff.
Passengers proceed direct to the Baggage Drop Counter, where their bags will be weighed. Any Excess Baggage matters will be handled at that time.
At present, passengers who require special care such as infants and wheelchair passengers will continue to be handled by SriLankan staff, and not through the on-line system.
The airline has already begun briefing travel agents in Sri Lanka, so they can keep their customers informed.
http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com/article.asp?id=50174&nav=2
saraprobe December 6th, 2007, 03:11 PM http://i1.tinypic.com/6z4qq0y.jpg
Fusionist December 7th, 2007, 12:00 AM The first thread in SSC SL to reach 500 posts ! Congrats :)
Now I am facing a dilema. Do I archive this thread ( as in many other parts of SSC ) and start Aviation Thread Part 2 or do I let this thread run till 1000 posts ?
Sidekicker December 7th, 2007, 02:21 AM The first thread in SSC SL to reach 500 posts ! Congrats :)
Now I am facing a dilema. Do I archive this thread ( as in many other parts of SSC ) and start Aviation Thread Part 2 or do I let this thread run till 1000 posts ?
let it run buddy! let it run all the way! wooo:banana:
Sidekicker December 7th, 2007, 02:25 AM hey saraprobe...where did you find that information on mihin lanka??
saraprobe December 7th, 2007, 05:19 AM hey saraprobe...where did you find that information on mihin lanka??
From another site, Elakiri.com:)
saraprobe December 7th, 2007, 01:07 PM http://i19.tinypic.com/81ojdvn.jpg
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Sidekicker December 8th, 2007, 05:14 AM any new pics of BIA?
Sidekicker December 8th, 2007, 05:14 AM nice pics!! i didnt know served food for FREE!! wow.....that A320 looks pretty beat up though! lol
saraprobe December 8th, 2007, 11:22 PM nice pics!! i didnt know served food for FREE!! wow.....that A320 looks pretty beat up though! lol
It looks not bad doesn't it?
saraprobe December 9th, 2007, 12:00 AM President Mahinda Rajapakse has commenced his official visit to Japan. The President left for Japan this morning, in a Mihin Air flight. He is accompanied by Minister Rohitha Bogollagama.:lol::lol::lol:
Please be advised that mihin lanka passengers can expect possible delays:ohno:
Btw I am sure MR can bag some $$$$ as he did back in Tehran^^^^^^
Sidekicker December 9th, 2007, 02:23 AM President Mahinda Rajapakse has commenced his official visit to Japan. The President left for Japan this morning, in a Mihin Air flight. He is accompanied by Minister Rohitha Bogollagama.:lol::lol::lol:
Please be advised that mihin lanka passengers can expect possible delays:ohno:
Btw I am sure MR can bag some $$$$ as he did back in Tehran^^^^^^
We got money from Iran?? wow!! hopefully we can use it to buy more planes! lol
saraprobe December 9th, 2007, 11:31 PM He calls himself an “aviation man”. Yet the “60-something” Peter Hill co-owned and ran a pub, The Constitution, for two years in Camden Town, UK. In 1996, after 11 years with the Emirates as its commercial manager-he was one of the airline’s founding members-he felt burnt out and went home to the UK.
Till Emirates beckoned with an offer to run SriLankan Airlines as its CEO. “Running a pub is not the same as running an airline. It was too good an offer to refuse.” And as advice: “Never burn your boats. It’s always good to leave your employer on great terms.” It could also be that he got too used to being an expatriate executive. “I’ve spent only 10 per cent of my working life in the UK.”
The remaining has been in the Caribbean, Uganda, Bahrain, Dubai and Sri Lanka, all in aviation. So on April 1, 1998, Hill started off at Colombo, seconded by Emirates to the government-owned (51 per cent stake) SriLankan. Emirates has a 43 per cent stake in the airline and management rights through a contract that will come up for renewal in 2008.
Today, Hill feels good about turning SriLankan Airlines around. It no longer needs government handouts, having become profitable, though profit levels are dependent on the socio-political conditions in Sri Lanka. In a good year, such as 2004-05, SriLankan made $60 million profit, says Hill. In other years, profit has ranged between $6-12 million.
“Hopefully, we will close March 31, 2008, with profits exceeding $15 million.” Two important challenges have been the employees and the government. “We inherited a good bunch of people but they lacked direction.”
Also, the airline was used to seeing the management change every time the government changed. “Employees were grossly underpaid; we overhauled the pay conditions. You need to give everyone a feeling of worth and then ask for performance.”
Good performance measurements, a performance reward system, decision-making empowerment, encouragement of poor performers, were quickly effected. “Passing the buck stopped; people started taking ownership of issues and working as a team. Sri Lankans aspire for jobs with us today.”
Proud achievements also include SriLankan’s run in India. “Four-and-a-half years ago, I was in Delhi for a convention. We were doing 37 flights a week in India and when I said that by 2008, we were targeting 100 flights a week, I faced disbelief. Today, we are doing 100 flights to 11 destinations in India.”
Hill cites his most difficult and time-consuming challenge as the one of managing a balance between Government expectations and running a commercially viable operation. So what’s next? He plans to move on when he turns 65: “It’s a young people’s business”. Back to running a pub? No, no, he protests: “I’d be happy to sit back and help, maybe as a consultant.” Always leave an employer on good terms and all that. So not another airline, right? Quips Hill: “Never say never!”
Hindustan Times
saraprobe December 9th, 2007, 11:45 PM COLOMBO: The Government is planning to hand over SriLankan airlines back to its Emirates management after a piecemeal adjustment of the agreement, despite wide ranging allegations that the agreement is not in favour of the government which still holds 60 percent ownership of the national carrier.The ten-year lease which granted the management of SriLankan airlines to the Dubai-based Emirates Airline will expire in March next year. Many fears have been raised as to whether Sri Lankan will face the same fate as that of Prima which was sold back to Prima Company for a mere US$67 million in 2001 by former President Chandrika Bandaranaike Kumaratunga.
Meanwhile, JVP MP, Vijitha Herat questioned Chief Government Whip, Jeyeraj Fernandopulle recently in Parliament whether the Government will extend the agreement with Emirates. Fernandopulle’s response was noncommittal, but he agreed that there were lapses in the agreement.
The Cabinet has appointed a Committee recently to study the agreement with a view to handing over the management of Sri Lankan back to Emirates with minor adjustments to the Agree-ment.
Vijitha Herat alleged that certain influential persons whom he did not wish to name were pushing for the renewal of the management agreement with the Emirates.
Meanwhile, SriLankan has lost some major destinations like Heathrow-Colombo due to the agreement with Emirates, which now flies to that destination.
In addition, SriLankan purchases all catering items from Dubai at a disproportionately higher price. For instance, SriLankan buys a bottle of water from Dubai for Rs 300 when it is priced at Rs 35 in Sri Lanka. An aviation expert commented that though Air Lanka was privatised, no significant development had taken place in the fleet of the airline.
Indeed, the majority of aircraft have been obtained on a lease basis, an airline expert said. If the lease payments made on an aircraft are calculated Sri Lankan could have easily purchased at least two aircraft with the money spent on the leasing, he said.
Lakbima News |
lordvader December 10th, 2007, 12:37 AM Mihin really needs to lease some permanent aircraft, preferrably new and train some local pilots to takeover operaions.
We got money from Iran?? wow!! hopefully we can use it to buy more planes! lol
NO, theyre going to build a new refinery and a power plant as far as I know.
Fusionist December 10th, 2007, 02:00 AM Meanwhile, SriLankan has lost some major destinations like Heathrow-Colombo due to the agreement with Emirates, which now flies to that destination.
not good :(
Amal December 10th, 2007, 09:24 AM For instance, SriLankan buys a bottle of water from Dubai for Rs 300 when it is priced at Rs 35 in Sri Lanka.
Absolutely ridiculous if true. I heard they removed Sri Lankan beer from their flights as well, despite being of internaitonal quality.
jaybob December 10th, 2007, 11:33 AM I have to say flying Sri Lankan I would rather drink three coins or lion than carlsberg.
saraprobe December 13th, 2007, 10:47 PM The next agreement of SriLankan Airlines will be signed after considering proposals of stakeholders including Trade Unions by a special committee, Ports and Aviation Minister Chamal Rajapaksa said at a press conference yesterday.
The Minister said that no agreement will be signed unless it is profitable to the Government and favourable to the employees.
“All proposals and suggestions are welcomed by the Ministry for betterment of the employees as well as the institution,” he said. Minister Rajapaksa assured that the construction of Hambantota Port is being continued and pledged that it will be concluded six months prior to the date estimated earlier.
“The Environment Impact Assessment (EIA) related with the proposed Weerawila airport has been received by the Ministry and now is being published for the public review,” the Minister said.
“Funds for the new airport will depend on our own funds and we hope to commence construction before next March,” he said. “Only laying of the foundation stone without considering the environmental and sociological factors are not practical for any project such as the Weerawila Airport,” the Minister added.
President, Sri Lanka Nidahas Sevake Sangamaya of the Sri Lankan Airlines, S.A. Dharmaratne and Union Chief Organiser, Arunditha Fernando appreciated the Minister’s support and Deputy Minister Sarath Gunaratne to resolve the “13th Salary Payment” of SriLankan Airlines employees under President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s directions.
The agreement was signed 10 years ago, Emirates holds 42 per cent, stakeholders seven per cent and the Government 51 per cent.
DN (http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/12/14/bus02.asp)
Amal December 13th, 2007, 11:04 PM Mihin Lanka looks to serve New Delhi and Chennai with daily flights
Monday, December 10, 2007 (19:00 IST)
By Arti Saggi | New Delhi
Mihin Lanka Pvt. Ltd, a Low Cost Carrier (LCC) owned by the Sri Lankan government, is looking to start daily flights from Colombo to Chennai and New Delhi, subject to Indian government's approval. According to Roshan Wijesekera, Country Manager - India, Mihin Lanka, talks are on between governments of both the countries and the airline will be able to serve the new destinations once a provision regarding the same is made in the bilateral agreement. The airline is looking to serve the new routes by deploying an A320 Airbus aircraft, which it is slated to acquire on lease in the first-quarter of 2008. Currently, it flies daily to Thiruvananthapuram and Tiruchirapalli and once-a-week to Gaya. The airline started operations to India from July 1, 2007 and has deployed two leased Airbus A320 aircraft to serve the three routes. To enhance its offerings for passengers travelling to and from India, the airline will add alcoholic beverages to its on-board menu from January, 2008.
The airline's inventory is available through a B2B online reservation system on its website. The system allows registered travel agents to have a password-protected account through which, they can book seats for their clients. International Air Transport Association (IATA)-accredited as well as non IATA-accredited agents can register themselves on the airline's website. "The website allows passengers to browse through the airfares but does not allow them to book the flights directly. Hence, we recommend agents selling our inventory to charge service fee upto USD 10 per ticket to their clients. The arrangement thus becomes similar to the Billing Settlement Plans (BSP) for agents," said Wijesekera. The airline operates to India, UAE, Singapore, Thailand and Maldives.
http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/articleDetails.aspx?id=1684§ionid=15&name=Aviation
Sidekicker December 14th, 2007, 03:29 AM BIA
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14282333@N08/2104305895/
Sidekicker December 14th, 2007, 03:30 AM has anyone checked out mihinlanka.com? the homepage changed a little bit
phil.froelich December 16th, 2007, 06:02 PM Did the food city in the departures section open up now?
aviational December 17th, 2007, 10:33 AM Did the food city in the departures section open up now?
It would be great if they open a FOOD CITY outlet in BIA.Any body have futher news about it?
I think it will be great, if they can open 24hrs coffe shops and snak shops in the transit area. e.g: KFC,Mc,etc.
aviational December 17th, 2007, 10:37 AM Any news on BIA 2nd runway and new aero bridges?
aviational December 17th, 2007, 10:57 AM SRILANKAN says they fly to 54 destinations in 28 countries but this total comes with emirates cord share. Actualy SRILANKAN fly's to 28 destinations in 15 countries.This is the development?
friends, What do you think?
phil.froelich December 17th, 2007, 12:47 PM Interesting, did not know that...
phil.froelich December 17th, 2007, 12:51 PM the food city was under construction when i was there in october or september
pathum1986 December 18th, 2007, 10:19 PM hey what happen to the airasia lanka flight service are they strt their operations in colombo
Fusionist December 18th, 2007, 10:22 PM SRILANKAN says they fly to 54 destinations in 28 countries but this total comes with emirates cord share. Actualy SRILANKAN fly's to 28 destinations in 15 countries.This is the development?
friends, What do you think?
UL's list is impressive but they need to grow stadily and sustain thier growth. Otherwise before they know Indian private airlines like Jet Airways, Deccan, Kingfisher etc will take over the South Asian skies in the near future.
pathum1986 December 18th, 2007, 11:00 PM guys any one knows about the progress of airasia lanka in srilanka
Fusionist December 18th, 2007, 11:10 PM guys any one knows about the progress of airasia lanka in srilanka
can you please keep related comments to a single post please ? It makes reading easier. If you post the same question twice or create a post for every single line comment, it looks like spamming or post flooding which is not encouraged.
saraprobe December 18th, 2007, 11:43 PM Fiasco over failure to fly President from London to Colombo in fully booked national carrier
An angry President Mahinda Rajapaksa wants Emirates appointed SriLankan Airlines CEO Peter Hill removed over the fiasco of not being allowed to fly back to Colombo from London via the national carrier.
Sources said that the reason for President’s wrath is that Hill had reportedly indicated that there were two SriLankan Airlines flights from London but at the last moment had said there weren’t any seats available for the Sri Lankan President to fly back home.
The President, who was on an official visit to Japan, flew to UK on a semi-private tour where he wanted to witness the passing out of his son Yoshitha from the Britannia Royal Naval College, Dartmouth. President was invited by the College to grace the occasion as the chief guest.
Sources said that after the event, Rajapaksa was keen to fly back to Colombo on time for the crucial third reading of the Budget, which took place last Friday.
When the Presidential delegation realised that there were no seats for the country’s Chief Executive, a message was sent to fly over the Budget carrier Mihin Air at a hefty cost sans passengers. Mihin Air, in the process, made its first flight to Europe.
However, an airline industry sources said that the President’s request for 18 business class seats and 17 economy seats came late and at a time when flights were over booked. UK is Sri Lanka’s biggest tourist generating market. Sri Lankan Airlines is the most preferred carrier by expatriate Lankans.
The Presidential delegation had to choose between three options which were: a flight from Gatwick to Colombo via Male, occupying a lesser number of seats than the originally indicated amount or agreeing to a written directive to clear the required number of seats since it mounts to off loading pre-booked passengers.
However, there is some confusion whether the Presidential aides had properly communicated these options to President Rajapaksa or whether someone had wanted to tarnish the national carrier’s image. Independent analysts were divided over which course would have been in the best interest of the national carrier. They said that ahead of the management review this fiasco could have been avoided.
The 10 year management deal signed in 1988 between the government and Emirates regarding SriLankan Airlines is up for review subject to tough negotiations. Emirates also owns 43% stake in SriLankan Airlines. The next meeting which will probably be decisive is slated for January 8.
The bottom Line (http://www.thebottomline.lk/2007/12/19/B37.htm)
phil.froelich December 20th, 2007, 05:25 PM My god, so much drama about a small misunderstanding or an error, after all we are all humans-not perfect....
Fusionist December 20th, 2007, 10:35 PM ^^ good point
Sidekicker December 20th, 2007, 10:50 PM so with peter hill gone...who will take his place?
pathum1986 December 21st, 2007, 12:28 AM peter hill case; this is a total over reaction
lordvader December 21st, 2007, 12:59 AM so with peter hill gone...who will take his place?
Reports are that he will continue to be CEO from Dubai. I think the govt is trying to show an upper hand in management contract discussions by doing this but it is an idiotic move.
Amal December 21st, 2007, 02:01 AM Agree, it is a total overreaction
Peter Hill was responsible for taking SriLankan Airlines into profit after the airport attack and almost half the fleet was destroyed, and for keeping the airline profitable for all this time, besides making it one of South Asia's best airlines.
pathum1986 December 21st, 2007, 02:28 AM is air china fly to colombo?
sjinadasa December 21st, 2007, 03:36 AM yeah this is totally overreaction by mahinda. how the hell could they book 18 seats in an overbooked flight ? and this is going to leave a mark in the investors confidence i guess. stupid move !
saraprobe December 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM Dec 21, 2007 (LBO) – SriLankan Airlines chief Peter Hill would continue to run the airline from Dubai after his resident visa in the island was revoked by the government, company sources said.
SriLankan Airlines is 43.6 percent owned by Dubai-based Emirates air, and Hill was seconded to the airline in 1998 after the Middle Eastern airline took over the management.
Hill had been part of a core team that set up Emirates in 1984.
Sri Lanka's government owns 51 percent of the airline and it is the flag carrier of the island. Hill's visa was revoked over a failure to accommodate on an over-booked flight a presidential delegation that was touring UK.
Hill has to leave Sri Lanka by December 28. Emirates is expected to run the airline at least until a management agreement runs out in March.
The 10-year agreement has not yet been renewed and negotiations were started in 2007 to extend the deal.
Relations between the government and Emirates have been rocky, and officials have said the terms of the current agreement were not favourable to the government and have been seeking changes.
www.LBO.lk
saraprobe December 21st, 2007, 12:00 PM Dec 20, 2007 (LBO) – The aviation safety agency of the European Union has certified Sri Lankan Airlines to train maintenance technicians, the airline said Thursday.
"SriLankan Airlines is now one of the few companies in Asia to receive the globally recognized EASA 147 certification from the European Aviation Safety Agency, to provide training in Aircraft Maintenance to foreign and local students," the airline said in a statement.
Only one other company in Asia, outside the Middle East and China, has obtained EASA 147 certification, among only 23 non-European organizations to have it.
The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) is the European Union’s authority on aviation standards and safety.
"EASA’s stringent standards are recognized around the world," Peter Hill, chief executive of SriLankan Airlines, said.
"It is another feather in the cap of SriLankan Engineering & Maintenance to be awarded this prestigious certification.”
SriLankan's technical training unit trains aircraft engineers, technicians, and pilots.
Foreign students from Pakistan, the Maldives, Oman and India, and staff of other airlines already attend the school.
“We at SriLankan have placed great emphasis in recent times on modernizing and upgrading our facilities," the airline's chief technical officer, Dick Hutton said.
"We are pleased to receive EASA 147 certification, only four months after receiving EASA 145 accreditation for our aircraft maintenance facilities.”
Harsha Priyadarshan, the airline’s technical training manager, says the certification will allow the airline to markets its training services throughout Asia.
SriLankan says its two-year training course in aircraft maintenance based on the EASA syllabus is already in high demand among locals and foreigners.
The airline is also authorized by Airbus Industrie to conduct training for external students and organizations in A320 maintenance and provide type training to handle the Airbus A340, A330, A320, and other aircraft.
It also handles the aircraft engineering aspects in the training of cadet pilots for SriLankan.
Exclusive coverage from WWW.LBO.LK
jaybob December 21st, 2007, 12:12 PM Dont know what you guys think but the issue over Peter Hill seems crazy. Surely somebody in the presidents staff should have organised seats a lot sooner. Seems like the government are sending a message to Emirates especially with the discussions due to take place in Jan. What would happen if Emirates pulled out? No new planes for a start, definitly a loss of investor confidence. Presune they would renationalise the airline.
saraprobe December 21st, 2007, 01:36 PM Dont know what you guys think but the issue over Peter Hill seems crazy. Surely somebody in the presidents staff should have organised seats a lot sooner. Seems like the government are sending a message to Emirates especially with the discussions due to take place in Jan. What would happen if Emirates pulled out? No new planes for a start, definitly a loss of investor confidence. Presune they would renationalise the airline.
Dono what to say, but I wish that Emirates would renew the agreement^^
justy December 22nd, 2007, 06:21 AM Mihin Lanka Chief Sajin de Vass Gunawardena said it was a privilege for the airline to have President Mahinda Rajapaksa on board the flight from London on December 13.
Gunawardena said media reports which indicated that this was Mihin’s first flight to Europe were wrong. Mihin had earlier flown President Rajapaksa and his delegation to Rome, he said.
“As patriotic citizens of this country we are proud to take the President of Sri Lanka on board Mihin Lanka.
We have not only gone to Europe flying the President of our Nation but to India, Maldives, Uganda, Iran, Japan, Rome and England. We don’t take pride in refusing seats for the President of our country, because we are a true Sri Lankan Government owned airline established for the people of Sri Lanka,” he said.
Meanwhile, it is understood that 28 pilots have decided to leave the employment of SriLankan Airlines in January 2008 owing to displeasures they are having with the management headed by CEO Peter Hill.
A source close to the airline said the Government must take a firm stand on this issue and engage these pilots in a discussion so as to address their grievances and restrain them from leaving Sri Lankan.
“Is it that the Emirates Management is seeking to ground the SriLankan Airlines operations and or engaged in arm twisting pending the negotiations between Emirates and the Government of Sri Lanka in respect of the extension of the Management Contract ?,” he asked.
He said in another move, two A340 aircraft whose lease payments were fully completed have been sold by Emirates and re-leased to SriLankan. “What is better for Sri Lankan Air Lines ? To operate its own aircraft or pay millions of dollars for leased aircraft ?,” he asked.
It is pertinent to note that ten years ago when the national carrier, Air Lanka was privatised Air Lanka owned ten (10) aircraft.
Today Sri Lankan owns no aircraft. Aviation sources said when Air Lanka was privatised ten years ago it had around US$ 180 Million dollars as dollar reserve deposits, as against no reserves at all today.
“If the Government of Sri Lanka does not take any action to rectify these and pull back the national airline by March 30, 2008 all that will be left is an airline without key staff and aircraft.”
pathum1986 December 22nd, 2007, 08:46 AM whats going on ?
saraprobe December 22nd, 2007, 10:45 AM Mihin Lanka Chief Sajin de Vass Gunawardena said it was a privilege for the airline to have President Mahinda Rajapaksa on board the flight from London on December 13.
Gunawardena said media reports which indicated that this was Mihin’s first flight to Europe were wrong. Mihin had earlier flown President Rajapaksa and his delegation to Rome, he said.
“As patriotic citizens of this country we are proud to take the President of Sri Lanka on board Mihin Lanka.
We have not only gone to Europe flying the President of our Nation but to India, Maldives, Uganda, Iran, Japan, Rome and England. We don’t take pride in refusing seats for the President of our country, because we are a true Sri Lankan Government owned airline established for the people of Sri Lanka,” he said.
Meanwhile, it is understood that 28 pilots have decided to leave the employment of SriLankan Airlines in January 2008 owing to displeasures they are having with the management headed by CEO Peter Hill.
A source close to the airline said the Government must take a firm stand on this issue and engage these pilots in a discussion so as to address their grievances and restrain them from leaving Sri Lankan.
“Is it that the Emirates Management is seeking to ground the SriLankan Airlines operations and or engaged in arm twisting pending the negotiations between Emirates and the Government of Sri Lanka in respect of the extension of the Management Contract ?,” he asked.
He said in another move, two A340 aircraft whose lease payments were fully completed have been sold by Emirates and re-leased to SriLankan. “What is better for Sri Lankan Air Lines ? To operate its own aircraft or pay millions of dollars for leased aircraft ?,” he asked.
It is pertinent to note that ten years ago when the national carrier, Air Lanka was privatised Air Lanka owned ten (10) aircraft.
Today Sri Lankan owns no aircraft. Aviation sources said when Air Lanka was privatised ten years ago it had around US$ 180 Million dollars as dollar reserve deposits, as against no reserves at all today.
“If the Government of Sri Lanka does not take any action to rectify these and pull back the national airline by March 30, 2008 all that will be left is an airline without key staff and aircraft.”
Dono, looks like Gov propaganda:ohno::ohno::ohno:
phil.froelich December 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM Does not look so good...
Sun, 23 December 2007 22:06:37
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22 December 2007 11:51:35
Emirates braces for worst in Sri Lanka air talks
Dec 22, 2007 (LBO) – Emirates Airlines, managing shareholder of SriLankan Airlines, has indicated that it is preparing for a possible breakdown in contract renewal talks over an ongoing row where its top manager has been ordered out of the island.
The chief executive officer of Sri Lankan airlines, Peter Hill, an Emirates appointee has to leave Sri Lanka by December 26, after his resident visa was revoked by the island's investment promotion agency.
The issue related to the failure of the airline to accommodate 35 seats in an overbooked flight to a presidential delegation, which was on a private tour in Britain to attend a graduation of President Mahinda Rajapakse's son.
"This incident is bound to have a bearing on our ongoing negotiations with the Sri Lanka Government with regard to the contract renewal," Emirates Airlines president Tim Clarke was quoted as saying in Emirates Business magazine.
"That is all I am able to say at this point of time."
Short flight
An Emirates spokesman said yesterday that Hill would continue to run the airline from Dubai until its 10-year management contract runs out in March 2008.
Emirates has been seeking a 5-year extension with an option for another five years.
Relations between Emirates and the Sri Lankan government have been rocky with some officials saying that the contract was weighted in favour of Emirates. Emirates own 43.6 percent of the airline and the government 51 percent.
Some officials have also indicated displeasure at a leveraged recapitalization exercise where the equity of planes originally bought on lease had been liquidated with fresh financing.
Sri Lanka's current administration has started a new airline Mihin Air, which has come under fire from critics for eating up public funds and running losses. The presidential delegation was eventually flown home on a special Mihin Air flight.
Sri Lanka privatized Sri Lankan, then known as Air Lanka, after suffering a string of losses and giving state guarantees to finance aircraft purchases.
Sri Lanka's first state airline, Air Ceylon also folded up in the 1970's.
Regional Footprint
After its take-over by Emirates, Sri Lankan was re-branded and re-fleeted fully with Airbuses and several low yielding European destinations were dropped upsetting the travel trade.
Instead, the new management focused on becoming a regional carrier becoming a surrogate airline for high yielding markets in India and the Maldives. Sri Lankan is now the top foreign flyer into India.
Regional revenues have kept the airline in flight as tourist arrivals fell with an intensification of the conflict.
It also weathered an attack on Sri Lanka's international airport by the Tamil Tigers when it lost a part of its fleet.
Emirates has earlier indicated its unhappiness that the government left renewal talks till the last minute with negotiations dragging on for 18 months, saying the airline had to operate without a strategic plan.
Yesterday Emirates Business quoted aviation analysts as saying the Middle Eastern airline should severe relations with Sri Lankan.
"Emirates should walk away from the deal it has with SriLankan Airlines," it quoted Addison Schonland, a California-based aviation analyst with Innovation Analysis Group as saying.
"Sri Lanka is a mess – as a region as well as everything else."
But the two airlines have integrated their operations closely and as the island's flag carrier Sri Lankan has access to lucrative air service agreements and slots in crowded international airports.
Meanwhile the British press has also flayed Sri Lanka. Hill is a Briton who started his career at British Overseas Airline Corporation, the forerunner of British Airways.
A Telegraph report said the row was "corporate governance of the worst possible kind" while The Times cited a case where former French President Jacques Chirac was accused of using his influence to get free flights from Air France.
http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?newsID=1423301034&no_view=1&SEARCH_TERM=7
saraprobe December 23rd, 2007, 11:10 PM With its 11 existing destinations in India, SriLankan airlines is now looking at getting into 15 tier two cities in the country to make their presence felt more strongly here.
Already being an established name, in terms serving the major southern Indian destinations, the airline feels that this is the time for the airline to grow in India.
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An air hostess in service.
Speaking to Express TravelWorld, Senaka Fernando, Regional Manager (Indian Sub-continent and Maldives), said they already have the rights to fly into cities like Pune and Aurangabad covering the western region, along with cities like Guwahati, Bhubaneswar, Patna, Gaya, Khajuraho as well as northern cities like Lucknow, Varanasi and Amritsar. Apart from this, there are four more to be added later, with Kolkatta highest in the order.
He also added that the airline wants to progress slowly, adding only one point a year, thanks to its small fleet size. By the year 2013 he said their fleet would increase to 30 aircraft, out of which 14 would enable them to operate into these cities.
He added that the long distance, the flight time ranging between five to six hours per flight to these cities, and the limited fleet is currently restricting them from taking a step forward New Delhi
DN (http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/12/24/bus15.asp)
saraprobe December 23rd, 2007, 11:11 PM Senior Reporter of TTG Asia Media, Ms Mak Ying Kwan won a return air ticket on Mihin Lanka to Colombo in a lucky draw at their annual staff luncheon held at the Raffles Hotel recently.
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An elated Ms Kwan is eagerly looking forward to her forthcoming visit to “delightful Sri Lanka.”
TTG Asia is the leading travel publication covering the Asia Pacific region which is widely circulated and features Sri Lanka extensively on a regular basis.
Mihin Lanka operates thrice weekly to Singapore on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays offering both economy and business class travel with an enhanced baggage allowance of 40 kg. on the return sector Singapore/Colombo.DN (http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/12/24/bus15.asp)
Sidekicker December 25th, 2007, 03:25 AM is air china fly to colombo?
I dont think Air China will fly to sri lanka...i havent heard anything about that
Sidekicker December 25th, 2007, 03:27 AM so Sri Lankan airlines got a replacement for Peter Hill?
sjinadasa December 25th, 2007, 05:12 AM Peter Hill is managing sri lankan from dubai :)
SLion December 25th, 2007, 12:29 PM Any PICS !!!
=)
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Main Dish: Prawn Chuchee Curry served with vegetable jalfrezi & steamed rice. International Cheese & Fresh Fruit
Dessert: Russian Zupfkuchen
Drink: Red Wine: Bordeaux Blason Timberlay and Water
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Meal: Lunch after Take Off - Starter - Seafood Terrine with Sushi and Smoked Ham
Soup - Cheshnut Cream Soup
Main - Japanese Eel with Kabayaki Sauce
Dessert - Cheese and fruits
Drink: Lanson Black Label, Water and Port
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Meal: lunch - dessert - Small pizza, peanuts, 2 biscuit
Drink: drink apple juice
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Meal type: Lunch ,What was in the meal ,
Thai Roast Beef & Cucumber Salad and Thai Roast Duck Curry Asian Mixed Vegetables Steamd Rice, Dessert: Carrot Cake
Drink: Hot Tea and white wine and Orange Juice
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Meal type: Breakfast
Contents of the meal: Chicken Sausage, Omelet. Fresh Fruits, Strawberry Yoghurt and Bread roll with jam and butter
Drink: OJ
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Meal type: Dinner
Contents of the meal: Penne Pasta Salad, Lamb Do Piyaza with Cauliflower Capsicum Masala.
Dessert: Soft Sponge Cake
Drink: Sprite and Tea/Coffee
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Meal type: Dinner
Contents of the meal: Spirelli Noodles with Vegetables Salad, Chicken Tikka Makhani with Dal Tadka.
Dessert: Strawberry Mirror Slice
Drink: Coke and Tea/Coffee
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Meal type: Lunch
Contents of the meal: Chicken Biryani with dahl
Fresh green salad with ham and Bread roll with jam and butter
Dessert: Mango Macroon Gateau
Drink: Coke and Tea/Coffee
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Meal type: Snack
Contents of the meal: Savoury Nuts and Dried Mango
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Meal type: Breakfast - Asian Vegetarian Meal
Contents of the meal: Fresh fruit, Sweet Corn Cookies, Spinach with Diced Tofu, Mushroom Ragout, Yoghurt, Croissant & Preserves
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Meal type: Dinner - Asian Vegetarian Meal
Contents of the meal: Steamed Rice with Raisins, Dhahi Ghobi, Tempered Dhal & Spinach, Fresh Green salad, Fresh strawberries
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Meal type: Economy - Lunch
Salad: Prawn with Mushroom
Main Course: Fried Vegetable Balls with Jasmine Rice or
Green Curry Chicken (Thai Style?)
Dessert: Vanilla Pudding with Custard
Drink: Orange Juice, Coffee and Ceylon Tea
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(016) Chinese Noodle with Spinage and Chicken Breast, Salad: Grass Vermincelli with Beef, Desert: Custard Sponge Cake with Mango
(017) Fish with Fried Rice
Drink: Diet Coke, Coffee and Ceylon Tea
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Meal type: Breakfast - Fresh fruit, fruit yoghurt, croissant, toast, Main course of coconut roti, chicken curry & devilled potatoes
Drink: Coffee
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Meal type: Lunch - Appetizer of Roast Lamb with Russian Salad, Vegetarian entree "Panner Chettinad" Pumpkin & Tomato Curry, Fresh fruits served from the trolley, Pineapple Crumble
Drink: Diet Coke, Lanson Brut Champagne, Earl Grey Tea
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Meal type: Snack - Assorted Sandwiches
Drink: Coffee
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Meal type: lunch - trout and smoked salmon, corn and potato salad, mouse-like desert in carmel sauce
Drink: a very well needed bloody mary. best thing on the plate.
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Meal type: Lunch & Tea - Japanese Gateau, Fresh fruit
Drink: Tea
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Meal type: Lunch Starter - Roast Lamb and Salad
Drink: Water
Drink: Tea
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Meal type: Lunch - Chilli Chicken/Egg Fried Rice/Stir fried Vegetables
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pathum1986 December 26th, 2007, 10:44 AM nice work saraprobe
pathum1986 December 26th, 2007, 11:48 AM guys any new news about hambanthota airport?
saraprobe December 26th, 2007, 11:10 PM By Bandula Sirimanna
The government is going ahead with the US$125 million Weerawila Airport project due to be ready by 2010 amidst speculation that the site is to be shifted to a massive block of land in close proximity to Hambantota to benefit a prominent personality.
Secretary to the Ministry of Ports and Aviation D.T.P Collure rejected reports of a change in location, saying there was no such plan and didn’t even come up at a recent meeting on the development of Hambantota. Land clearance and other infrastructure development activities of the Weerawila Airport project are to be commenced shortly after a final decision is made on the level of compensation for some 360 families to vacate the homes at the proposed site which is a total of 1,160 hectares in extent.
A special discussion on Hambantota development including the airport project was held on Wednesday chaired by the new Minister of Ports Development and Aviation Chamal Rajapakse, Collure said.
By the way the environmental report is in public domain now & it is due in January, See what happen & keep our fingers cross, any way MR has said that he is gonna go ahead with it's plan^^
sjinadasa December 27th, 2007, 07:28 AM so they still didnt get the cea approval ! wow, of all the things, a government org is blocking a gov construction (in sri lanka too !!).
sjinadasa December 27th, 2007, 07:31 AM haha ! all the good looking food are for the business class and we the economy flyers are given prepacked food in plastic plates. yeah im jealous :P
Sidekicker December 27th, 2007, 07:57 AM When is phase 2 of BIA supposed to start? If they cant get Weerawila started, then they should focus on BIA!
sjinadasa December 27th, 2007, 08:05 AM phase 2 recently got the cabinet approval i think. so it will start next year probably.
jaybob December 27th, 2007, 10:38 AM There is certainly a worry on the travel forums that UL will stop flights to london. and also that out of spite they may ban EMirates from flying in. Dont know how true this is but would be disastrous for tourists. I have been over 3 times and have flown twice with UL and once with Emirates. Would not leave a lot of choice. Dont know what news you guys have over there about this issue
saraprobe December 27th, 2007, 03:21 PM When is phase 2 of BIA supposed to start? If they cant get Weerawila started, then they should focus on BIA!
Now they have to take CEA approval & then probably go ahead yearly nxt year:)
Sidekicker December 27th, 2007, 06:08 PM well "next year" is coming up soon! ahhh i'm excited! lol
Sidekicker December 27th, 2007, 06:10 PM The london route is Sri Lankan's most profitable route i think....theres nooo way they should give it up when its so hard to get clothes at Heathrow!
phil.froelich December 27th, 2007, 07:44 PM Yeah and banning emirates would also be insane...
saraprobe December 27th, 2007, 09:53 PM The proposed Weerawila airport could be made an even viable venture if it can be used as a duty free centre and a hub for low cost carriers, Chairman, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Gamini Wickramasinghe said.
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He said a duty free centre should be created to attract SAARC tourists. Countries such as Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia and Dubai have followed this example and are attracting US$ billions revenue to their countries. In addition is also boost their tourism arrivals.
Tax holidays, long term credit facilities and other incentives should be provided to investors who would open duty free facilities at Weerawila. “The Government must create an environment where this duty free centre would be the cheapest in the region,” he said.
“Shop owners like Mohamed Mustafa of Singapore should be invited to Weerawila and then the other companies would follow. Many Indians travel to Singapore only to shop at Mustafa’s and if this shop is available in Weerawila, Indians will be more than happy to do their shopping there,” Wickramasinghe said.
“Weerawila will save them on airfare, time, and accommodation and with the saving they can either purchase more goods or tour the country,” he said. There is a growing Indian middle class that travel frequently and steps should be taken to woo them.
With a top class Duty Free facility in place many domestic airlines operating in India and other Asian countries would be keen to fly to Weerawila.
The ground breaking ceremony of the event took place on November 19. Under the first phase, the Weerawila international airport would be able to accommodate eight aircraft. It would also be the first airport in Sri Lanka which would have the capability of landing the latest A380 aircraft.:nuts:
The cost of the construction of the airport would be Rs. 13 billion and is expected to be ready by 2011. Under this project, over 70,000 direct and indirect employment opportunities will be created.
The airport will comprise a 4000-metre runway and will provide parking space for 14 aircraft at a time. In addition, a Customs building, large hangar, AASL office and other modern facilities too would be provided.
However a highway network is a must for the success of the Weerawila airport project. “Any tourist or local landing in Weerawila would not want to waste around seven hours to come to the City. The proposed Colombo Matara expressway should be linked to the Weerawila terminal to provide faster land access to the city,” he said.
In addition a rail system too has to be introduced and this is currently on track with the extension from Matara to Kataragama.
The construction will be carried out with the latest technology under the guidance of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO).
There would also be direct air links between the Colombo international airport and Weerawila.
Sri Lanka’s first airport in Ratmalana has been used to its maximum capacity and commercial properties around the airport limits expansion. However this airport too would be used for domestic flights. (SS)
DN (http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/12/28/bus01.asp)
Fusionist December 27th, 2007, 11:30 PM haha ! all the good looking food are for the business class and we the economy flyers are given prepacked food in plastic plates. yeah im jealous :P
I think even the Business Class gets plastic cutlery in all flights to London ( and possibly the entire EU ) for safety reasons. Both business and economy class gets the 'silver' spoon in UL flights to other destinations :)
phil.froelich December 28th, 2007, 06:34 PM a lot of projects and proposal, not many concrete tastes of success and completion...
Sidekicker December 28th, 2007, 08:48 PM wow...look how many flights are delayed on the departures screen!
Sidekicker December 29th, 2007, 07:31 PM Mihin Lanka hasnt had any flights to India lately.... i think its because they had to ground their A320!!
saraprobe December 29th, 2007, 11:49 PM The air battle rages on with Emirates last week sending letters to Treasury Secretary P.B. Jayasundera and BOI Chairman Dhammika Perera demanding that SriLankan Airlines CEO Peter Hill be reinstated after the government arbitrarily cancelled his work permit last week.
The letter which was sent through the law firm F.J. and G. De Saram’s stated that the expulsion of Hill was unlawful and violated the terms of the shareholder agreement between Emirates and the government of Sri Lanka (GoSL).
The strongly worded letter to the government officials is reported to be the Dubai based Emirates’ first step towards pursuing legal action against GoSL for Hill’s unceremonious removal and was sent ahead of a visit by Emirates President Tim Clark who will arrive in Sri Lanka on January 2. Clark, who cancelled a SriLankan Airlines board meeting scheduled for January 8, is expected to meet with the Treasury Secretary Jayasundera and also Presidential Secretary Lalith Weeratunga during his Colombo visit.
Peter Hill meanwhile departed for Dubai on Thursday (27) and is expected to manage SriLankan Airlines from there.
Meanwhile, it is also learnt that over 10% of SriLankan Airlines pilots are poised to quit the airline while several other experts have also handed in their resignations due to the prevailing uncertainty
See Full Story (http://www.nation.lk/2007/12/30/newsfe7.htm)
saraprobe December 29th, 2007, 11:52 PM Mihin Lanka hasnt had any flights to India lately.... i think its because they had to ground their A320!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Mihin Air has been compelled to ground its A320 aircraft plying to Indian destinations due to non payment of dues.
The Bulgarian company that leased out the A320 aircraft to Mihin on a wet lease has instructed its pilots not to fly the aircraft as Mihin had not settled its dues under the lease.
Mihin has two long haul aircraft, an A320 leased from a Bulgarian company and an A321 leased from a Turkish company. The controversial budget airline pays Rs. 90,802,000.00 as leasing charges on a wet lease that includes cabin crew and pilots.
As at 31.03.2007 Mihin's operational costs stood at Rs. 195,410,886.41 and records reveal the budget airline is making a loss of about Rs. 8-9 million a day.
Though a budget airline Mihin, incurs a huge sun of Rs. 25,249,614.13 for advertising and promotions and Rs. 16,129,577.06 for staff salaries and allowances.
Mihin currently flies to seven destinations. They are Dubai, Male, Bangkok, Tiruchirapalli, Trivandram, Buddha Gaya and Singapore. The debt ridden Mihin currently owes a sum of Rs. 300 million to the Ceylon Petroleum Corporation (CPC) for fuel purchases and over USD one million to SriLankan Airlines for ground handling and other services.
SL (http://www.thesundayleader.lk/20071230/NEWS.HTM)
lordvader December 30th, 2007, 03:01 AM So the Nation article Sara posted basically confirmed my hunch that there were other parties looking at bidding for the airline.. Interesting. Mihin should be next for semi-privatisation. They should look at investment companies such as Virgin and Indigo Partners which invest and turnaround LCCs like Mihin.
saraprobe December 30th, 2007, 11:15 AM So the Nation article Sara posted basically confirmed my hunch that there were other parties looking at bidding for the airline.. Interesting. Mihin should be next for semi-privatisation. They should look at investment companies such as Virgin and Indigo Partners which invest and turnaround LCCs like Mihin.
But Emirates confirm that they will sell the stake off to the public if gov refuse the renewal!
lordvader December 31st, 2007, 07:55 AM But Emirates confirm that they will sell the stake off to the public if gov refuse the renewal!
Maybe a local company may buy the stake from the stock exchange or somethin if thats the case. I thought that Emirates was only considering selling down its stake and floating part of the company as was done with Sri lanka Telecom.
BTW Happy New Year to everyone in case this is my last post before!
saraprobe January 2nd, 2008, 06:10 AM * SriLankan Airlines-Mihin Lanka battle intensifies after former halts ground handling over non-payment of dues
* Manual push before take off for Mihin Bangkok flight;
* Harry J speaks to Emirates management in Dubai to restore normalcy
* Tim Clarke in town for crisis talks
President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s administration has indicated to Pilots Union that the deal with Emirates will be discontinued while the tussle between national carrier and the budget airline raged further.
The government owned budget carrier, Mihin Lanka, survived another storm when SriLankan airlines agreed to restore ground handling services which it rejected yesterday morning owing to non payment of dues.
The restoration of ground handling services happened after SriLankan Chairman and business tycoon Harry Jayawardena spoke to Emirates management in Dubai. Jayawardena was also at hand at the airport yesterday to resolve the dispute.
But before SriLankan agreed to restore the ground handling services, Mihin Lanka’s flight to Bangkok, using Airbus A-321, had to be pushed back by some 12 men. It was a rare sight to see an aircraft the magnitude of an A-321 being manually pushed back in readiness for taxiing and takeoff.
The withdrawal of facilities by Sri Lankan also affected the cleaning of the aircraft as well as emptying the waste from the toilets. After the manual pushback, Mihin Air took off to Bangkok’s Swarnabhumi Airport where full ground handling services were obtained including the cleaning and emptying of the waste from toilets. SriLankan Airlines MD Tim Clarke fired another salvo in the raging battle between Emirates and the government of Sri Lanka yesterday when he issued a directive instructing that all support services provided to the government owned Mihin Lanka would cease as of midnight on December 31.
Clarke, who is Managing Director SriLankan and Chairman Emirates Airlines, told his senior management that ground handling, other support services and credit provided to the budget airline should cease until a massive outstanding payment was settled by Mihin Lanka.
Clarke is expected to be in Sri Lanka today for talks with the government to resolve the bigger dispute over the alleged refusal of seats to President Mahinda Rajapaksa and his entourage from London after a semi-private visit in mid last month.
According to SriLankan sources, Mihin Lanka is in debt to the national carrier to the tune of some USD 1 million for a period of three months and despite over five letters being sent to the budget airline requesting that the monies be settled.
Sources added that there was also an understanding between the national carrier and Mihin Lanka as of end December that while the entire outstanding amount would remain as it is, the budget airline would make prompt payments for all services obtained from SriLankan in the future.
Mihin Lanka depends on SriLankan Airlines to provide ground handling services and several other key operational areas for a fee. However, credit privileges afforded to the budget airline ceased after Mihin Lanka maxed out its credit limit recently, sources at SriLankan told The Bottom Line.
The sources added that Mihin Lanka had attempted to obtain the same services through another private domestic airline. “This airline also did not have the necessary manpower to get the flight off the ground, so it came back to SriLankan requesting the services be provided,” the sources said. However, the national carrier being well aware that the private company was a front for Mihin Lanka had flatly refused to provide ground support for the Dubai bound flight, they added.
Mihin Lanka is already ridden with debt and operations problems. One of its A320 aircraft has been grounded due to non-payment of its lease. The grounding of this aircraft is alleged to have incensed several passengers in Trevendram, many of whom had stormed the Mihin Lanka counter at the Trevendram airport because of flight cancellations.
Meanwhile a three member team comprising Captain Sujith Jayasekara, President of the Pilot’s Union, Captain Chamila Dhanapala and Captain Deepal Hewagama met President Secretary Lalith Weerathunge and Sajin Vaas Gunewardane, the CEO of Mihin Lanka on December 31 where it was indicated to them that the deal with Emirates would not be extended. The Union was told that government’s firm plans would be communicated shortly.
Incidentally, Capt. Dhanapala, who was representing the Union, is among 15 SriLankan pilots who have resigned from the national carrier to better their prospects with foreign airlines.
The Union was hoping to meet the President but eventually got an audience only with Secretary to the President Weeratunga and Advisor to President Mr. Vaas Gunawardena.
The Bottom Line (http://www.thebottomline.lk/2008/01/02/B44.htm)
Sidekicker January 2nd, 2008, 06:34 AM ahhh what is going on here??
SLion January 2nd, 2008, 02:12 PM My new username!
Sidekicker January 2nd, 2008, 10:14 PM i doubt mihin lanka will be around when weerawila airport is built..
SLion January 3rd, 2008, 06:29 PM Mihin is in serious trouble, definately!
SLion January 3rd, 2008, 06:30 PM Any news of Air Asia Lanka or Deccan?
SLion January 3rd, 2008, 06:31 PM Pics. would be appreciated.
SLion January 3rd, 2008, 06:32 PM How do you post pictures?
saraprobe January 3rd, 2008, 10:55 PM How do you post pictures?
Ok, go to www.tinypic.com
Upload the picture & cut and paste the "IMG Code for Forums"^^
saraprobe January 3rd, 2008, 11:06 PM http://i5.tinypic.com/6q1zyp3.jpg
Dubai: SriLankan Airlines’ passengers no longer need to queue up to check-in at Colombo’s Bandaranaike International Airport, with the launch of the airline’s On-Line Check-In facility.
Passengers can even choose their seat on the aircraft, through the system.
Nigel O’Shea, head of service delivery, said: “On-Line Check-In is a major initiative that is part of our ongoing project to improve the convenience for everyone travelling on SriLankan Airlines. It allows our passengers to select the seat they would like before they come to the airport, and it considerably reduces the time spent in the check-in area.”
The facility will initially be for single sector travel (direct flights without stopovers) from Bandaranaike International Airport (BIA) to 31 of SriLankan’s destinations throughout Europe, the Middle East, the Indian Subcontinent, Southeast Asia and the Far East. It will next be extended to multiple sector flights, and will also be introduced worldwide at the airline’s other points of departure for flights into BIA and other destinations, he said.
On-Line Check-In opens 24 hours before a flight and continues up to two hours before a flight. One could even check-in groups of passengers, if the required information and reference numbers are available.
A passenger simply needs to visit SriLankan’s website www.srilankan.aero and click on “On-line check-in”. The next step is to merely key in four simple entries - name, airport, flight number, and booking reference or Skywards frequent flyer number.
- TradeArabia News Service
sjinadasa January 4th, 2008, 04:38 AM "President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s administration has indicated to Pilots Union that the deal with Emirates will be discontinued while the tussle between national carrier and the budget airline raged further."
WTF ? Has MR gone crazy ? Emirates despite all the allegations and problems saved srilankan and that is a fact ! I think MR has a personal grudge against Emirates now due to that stupid ticketing incident.(I support Peter Hill's stance on that) The idea of SriLankan going back into the government control is really scary to even think about. Look at Mihin Lanka, it is now running at very heavy losses.
Sidekicker January 4th, 2008, 05:20 AM ^ OMG there is noooo waay we are losing Emirates! If we lose that contract we should kick Mahinda out of office! he doesnt realize how bad we need Emirates!...i dont care about other investors in the country...Emirates is and will be the most powerful airline in the WORLD!
aviational January 4th, 2008, 06:23 PM Any new airlines planing to fly to BIA?
saraprobe January 4th, 2008, 11:25 PM The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) held a ceremony yesterday to officially welcome Sri Lankan airline Mihin Lanka, to operate at Singapore Changi Airport.
Mihin Lanka is the second international carrier from Sri Lanka to mount flights to Singapore. The state-owned airline first began operating six weekly flights between Singapore and Colombo on 24 September 2007 with an Airbus 321 aircraft.
At the welcome ceremony, CAAS Director-General and CEO Lim Kim Choon said, "The launch of Mihin Lanka's services comes at an opportune time as passenger traffic between Singapore and Sri Lanka has grown by 30% over the past 4 years to reach 275,000 movements for the first 11 months of 2007. Between January and November 2007, there were over 70,000 visitor arrivals from Sri Lanka, representing a robust 10% growth year-on-year."
Lim further expressed confidence that visitor arrivals from Sri Lanka to Singapore would grow further in the coming years, boosted by new tourism developments in Singapore such as the Singapore Flyer, the Formula 1 Grand Prix and the Integrated Resorts.
Mihin Lanka is the fourth airline to operate flight services between Colombo and Singapore. The other three airlines are Singapore Airlines, Sri Lankan Airlines and Emirates. This latest addition also brings the number of weekly passenger flights on the route to a total of 42.
Changi Airport is currently served by 81 scheduled airlines, operating over 4,300 weekly scheduled flights to 189 cities in 60 countries.
DM (http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=3061)
saraprobe January 4th, 2008, 11:28 PM The government will not renew the SriLankan – Emirates deal if the Middle Eastern Airline does not agree to the new conditions laid down by Sri Lanka, Ports and Aiation and Irrigation and Water Management Minister Chamal Rajapaksa told Daily Mirror today.
Breaking news (http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=2994)
pathum1986 January 5th, 2008, 08:11 AM The government will not renew the SriLankan – Emirates deal if the Middle Eastern Airline does not agree to the new conditions laid down by Sri Lanka, Ports and Aiation and Irrigation and Water Management Minister Chamal Rajapaksa told Daily Mirror today.
Breaking news (http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=2994)
this sounds bad:ohno:
phil.froelich January 5th, 2008, 05:29 PM Mahinda is such a selfish guy, one incident involving him and he makes the entire country suffer due to his ignorance... A major setback in sri lanka's aviation sector...
Praetorian January 5th, 2008, 07:11 PM Oh well Emirates deal may or may not be over so what?
Emirates screwed us over (just like how Singapore Airlines did) and keep screwing us over. Who the hell cares? We managed before with Air Lanka, now our airline after this deal has no aircraft -all under lease or some bs- they don't sell lions bear (which is cheaper) we lost the London-Colombo route. Pilot problems with many Lankan pilots being sidelined because of the deal and unhappy, resulting in us loosing more of our professionals. So much got ruined.
Also another problem relating to the deal is the fact that all ground handling is done by SriLankan, which is why Colombo airport has never taken off as a hub (war or no war) and very few airlines come because of the monopoly run by Sri Lankan (backed by Emirates). So again, whats the problem?
Why do we need foreigners to do everything for us?
We had a 100% Lankan staff who could handle the management and administration.
Pilot loss as i mentioned above is just another thing Emirates wants, because it means more foreigners can get jobs at our expense, and we'll continually be depended on them (foreigners).
It was a short-sighted and foolish decision made by Chandrika -what else to expect from that brainless women? Worse still is the attitude of people in Lanka who seem incapable of A) Independent thinking and B) Doing things by themselves, obviously a result of A.
Colonial mentality dies hard I guess.
SLion January 5th, 2008, 07:17 PM I don't want this deal to go on (even if we get A380). Oh, and by the way, Mahinda is a drunkard with a moustache (qouting my grandfather).
Praetorian January 5th, 2008, 07:18 PM ^ OMG there is noooo waay we are losing Emirates! If we lose that contract we should kick Mahinda out of office! he doesnt realize how bad we need Emirates!...i dont care about other investors in the country...Emirates is and will be the most powerful airline in the WORLD!
If we lose that contract we should kick Mahinda out of office!
Over a business deal in which we have next to nothing to gain and have lost so much already with plenty more to loose? I guess your just "politically immature".
SLion January 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM I believe SriLankan should be run by a Lankan BUT not by the Gov.
SLion January 5th, 2008, 07:22 PM Well done. All what Emirates did to our national airline is make it subsidiary carrier to the sub continent, sold our valuable assets such as the aircraft we owned and SITA shares we had. All this was glamourised under the guise of running the airline profitably. They in turn took our reservations system to Dubai and used our landing rights many destination including London Heathrow, New York JFK and the Australian routes. Also what a lot of people don't know is when Emirates bought over Airlanka, Emirates had ordered 13 Airbus A330. They were planning to cancel the order. The cancellation would have cost them 10 million US dollars per aircraft. They converted the sale over to the newly formed Srilankan by making the carrier buy 7 Airbus A330. Thus saving Emirates 70 million dollars. They paid 43 million before delaying on the rest of the payments two years later. You do the maths - they indeed made a profit by buying the national carrier for 70 million US dollars. When you buy so many aircraft you get a flight simulator from the manufacturer. Do you know where our simulator is. Yeah, guessed it right - it is in the Emir's land. Whilst our pilots go to Singapore and Dubai for their training. I can go on and on. I hope sanity would prevail the national interests would prevail over personal ones.
Quoted from Haritha Weerasinghe
(I edited a few grammatical mistakes)
Praetorian January 5th, 2008, 07:25 PM I believe SriLankan should be run by a Lankan BUT not by the Gov.
Yeah exactly.
I am sick of this dependency on foreigners. We are more than capable of doing everything by our selves -and i mean everything, economy, war, peace whatever. We do not need some random foreign nobody telling us what to do and how to do it. Nor should we ask them for their "advice" either -something many in Lanka seem to be infected with.
When will this Colonial "we can't do anything by ourselves" mentality coupled with two week memory endemic STOP?
SLion January 5th, 2008, 07:29 PM Ok, go to www.tinypic.com
Upload the picture & cut and paste the "IMG Code for Forums"^^
Thanks.
BTW, my last post for 2 weeks, so sorry, no pics.
Praetorian January 5th, 2008, 07:42 PM Well done. All what Emirates did to our national airline is make it subsidiary carrier to the sub continent, sold our valuable assets such as the aircraft we owned and SITA shares we had. All this was glamourised under the guise of running the airline profitably. They in turn took our reservations system to Dubai and used our landing rights many destination including London Heathrow, New York JFK and the Australian routes. Also what a lot of people don't know is when Emirates bought over Airlanka, Emirates had ordered 13 Airbus A330. Airlines were planning to cancel the order. The cancellation would have cost them 10 million US dollars per aircraft. They converted the sale over to the newly formed Srilankan by making the carrier buy 7 airbus A330. Thus saving Emirates 70 million dollars. They paid 43 million before delaying on the rest of the payments two years later. You do the maths - they indeed made a profit by buying the national carrier for 70 million US dollars. When you buy so many aircraft you get a flight simulator from the manufacturer. Do you know where our simulator is. Yeah, guessed it right - it is in the Emir's land. Whilst our pilots go to Singapore and Dubai for their training. I can go on and on. I hope sanity would prevail the national interests would prevail over personal ones.
Quoted from Haritha Weerasinghe
(I edited a few grammatical mistakes)
Can you give me the rest of the article?
I can't believe we lost the flight simulator.
I HATE Mihin i would prefer it if that crap ended and the money (if there is any left) went into a 100% Lankan owned SriLankan. There has to be some legislation passed in Lanka that ensure all our companies and business have to be 70% Lankan/ owned by "a native born in Lanka" -This will stop foreigners from trying to cheat us by some how getting SL Citizenship or something and stop us loosing our natural resources and wealth of the nation.
Legislation like this is also important for our oil -lots of noise being made about that. Hakeem the traitor tried to sell out our oil with Lanka only getting 10% of the profits (???) one many of the reasons why he is a traitor of the land.
What should be done instead of wasting the money spent on sending traitors like him to whine and dine in 5 star hotels and go site seeing in the West at our expense to sell us out while he (and the rest of them in Kotte) engage in personal advancement, is to have that money spent on sending our professionals (plus recently passed out A-Level students, who are our future) to the West, the Middle East, China, (wherever!) to learn about the oil industry plus set up similar institutions/industrial base here so when they come back the ground work will be there for them to develop the industry for us, doing so would also have ripple effects in other economic and industrial sectors in the country = development = opportunities = wealth for the people = happier people = less traitors and NGO scum selling out the rest of us for a buck = less problems = prosperous nation.
Well its not that simple but there is such untapped potential.
Praetorian January 5th, 2008, 11:39 PM Emirates BACKSTABBING continues
Emirates lifts recruitment ban on UL staff
SriLankan Airlines strategic partner and aviation giant Emirates has decided to lift its self-imposed recruitment ban on SriLankan staff following the crisis with the government of Sri Lanka, The Nation reliably learns.
According to aviation sources, Emirates had decided upon entering into its strategic agreement with the government in 1998 to refrain from inducting UL staff into its massive global staff, fearing it would hamper its own business interests in the Sri Lankan national carrier.
However, as of last week, Emirates began to approach senior SriLankan Airlines pilots and engineers, claiming that if any one of them were interested, the Dubai-based airline would welcome them with ‘open arms.’
Emirates which recruits more than 6000 pilots to fly nearly 200 aircraft, pays at least 30-40% more than SriLankan recruits are paid.
According to several senior pilots at SriLankan, with the recruitment ban lifted, Emirates can now poach the best and brightest of SriLankan pilots and engineers, leaving SriLankan strapped for expert staff to run the airline.
Already, SriLankan pilots have resigned en masse due to the prevailing instability at the airline and informed sources claimed that around 40% of the airline’s total quota of pilots could resign before the crisis ends. (DB)
http://www.nation.lk/2008/01/06/news13.htm
lordvader January 6th, 2008, 05:13 AM he doesnt realize how bad we need Emirates!...i dont care about other investors in the country...Emirates is and will be the most powerful airline in the WORLD!
Emirates isnt needed that badly. There are rumours that local companies have already started eyeing Emirates stake in the airline. On an old pilots forum many SL pilots weren't happy with their management and prefer the old govt management. The airline was also supposedly running at a profit when it was sold to EK. However EK has really improved the service levels and should be given credit for doing so. Also Emirates isnt the most powerful airline in the world at the moment.
There has to be some legislation passed in Lanka that ensure all our companies and business have to be 70% Lankan/ owned by "a native born in Lanka" -This will stop foreigners from trying to cheat us by some how getting SL Citizenship or something and stop us loosing our natural resources and wealth of the nation.
And why would investors want to invest/start up a company in a country with such regulations? However it would be a different story if this is applied to privatized companies ie SriLankan Airlines, Telecom etc.
is to have that money spent on sending our professionals (plus recently passed out A-Level students, who are our future) to the West, the Middle East, China, (wherever!) to learn about the oil industry plus set up similar institutions/industrial base here so when they come back the ground work will be there for them to develop the industry for us, doing so would also have ripple effects in other economic and industrial sectors in the country = development = opportunities = wealth for the people = happier people = less traitors and NGO scum selling out the rest of us for a buck = less problems = prosperous nation.
Well its not that simple but there is such untapped potential.
Totally agree with you here. Local universities should also be developed by local companies and the govt to educate more people in the country.
Sidekicker January 6th, 2008, 05:52 AM yeah but through emirates sri lankan passengers get connections to routes like JFK and also austrailian destinations....wouldnt that be a big loss?
Amal January 6th, 2008, 11:01 AM From what I gather, the Emirates-UL deal is biased towards Emirates, but in my opinion Air Lanka cannot be compared to SriLankan Airlines, the latter beats the former hands down and that happened because of the deal. I shudder to think what would have happened if the deal had not been signed. Maybe our national career would have gone the way of the Maldives'.
If not for the deal, I'm not even sure whether the aging Tristars would have been put out of service and new aircraft brought in. The logo would definitely have not changed. Neither would have the awful website. To be honest, as a fully government owned airline Air Lanka was going nowhere. It changed destinations at the drop of a hat without taking into account the profitability of the routes. Its planes were old, creaking and about to fall apart (I say this from personal experience).
An argument put forward by opponents of the agreement is that UL was converted into a "regional airline" but IMO, focusing on India was one the smartest things UL has done. India is one of the fastest growing aviation markets in the world. It is also the biggest source country of tourists to Sri Lanka. I don't think the old management would have ever thought of concentrating on India, rather they would have wanted more "visible destinations" like cities in Europe even though they would have had poor load factors.
If Sri Lankans cannot get a job done right, then I see nothing wrong in letting others do it right. Corruption is rife in Sri Lanka and if others can cut through that and deliver a profit by actually managing an airline well, then I think we should support it wholeheartedly. At the very least passengers get a high level of service and Sri Lanka gets a good name.
I want the Emirates management to continue, but for some of the unfair clauses in the agreement to be amended.
SLion January 6th, 2008, 03:43 PM Can you give me the rest of the article?
That's a comment by someone after hearing that the Emirates-SriLankan deal might not go on.
Amal January 6th, 2008, 05:52 PM Emirates ends 10-year Lanka tie-up
By Shakir Husain, Staff Reporter
Published: January 06, 2008, 18:46
Dubai: Emirates has ended its 10-year deal to manage SriLankan airline saying it will pass on the carrier's control to the Colombo government, the majority shareholder in the island's flag carrier.
The Dubai-based airline gave no reason for its decision, but relations between Emirates and Sri Lankan government had become troubled after a recent row over denial of seats to Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapakse and his entourage on a London-Colombo flight and the cancellation of the work permit of SriLankan's British chief executive officer Peter Hill.
Talks between Emirates and Sri Lanka for the renewal of the management contract had been going for about 18 months.
http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10179882.html
Emirates exits Sri Lanka deal
06-01-2008
Emirates is to cancel a 10-year contract with SriLankan Airlines, and is considering selling its 43.6% stake in the company for $150m, the Dubai carrier said today.
Emirates will continue to manage the airline’s operations until the end of the contract on March 31, it said in a statement. “Emirates has notified the Government of Sri Lanka that it will not be renewing the Shareholder's Agreement which expires on 31st March 2008,” said Tim Clark - pictured above - who is both President of Emirates Airline and Managing Director of Sri Lankan Airlines.
“Accordingly, with effect from 1st April 2008, management control of Sri Lankan Airlines will pass to the Government of Sri Lanka.” The airline also said it is interested in selling all or part of its 43.6 per cent stake in SriLankan.
"It's a good buy. We would be seeking about $150 million if we were to sell all of our stake," Clark told the Reuters news agency. A source close to the deal told Emirates Business that it is the exit of SriLankan Airlines’ chief executive, Peter Hill, last month, that acted as a deal-breaker between Emirates and SriLankan Airlines.
“I did not see the deal going through in the first place as Emirates was a little tired of things, especially after this episode of Peter Hill. They have tried to do whatever is best for Sri Lanka and SriLankan Airlines. But scepticism had creeped in of late, in a negative way,” said the source.
Hill, who was appointed SriLankan Airlines’ CEO by Emirates, lost his work permit last month after he refused to accommodate Sri Lanka’s President, Mahinda Rajapaksa and his entourage of 35 on a London-Colombo flight. He then left the country on December 27.
http://www.lankaeverything.com/vinews/srilanka/20080106101958.php
Amal January 6th, 2008, 06:37 PM Expect declining levels of service, addition and deletion of destinations on a whim, technical delays and delays for VIPs, no new aircraft, unprofitability, declining passenger numbers and pretty much a reversion to what Air Lanka was. Unfortunate it had to end like this. I guess it was good while it lasted.
Praetorian January 6th, 2008, 08:35 PM Expect declining levels of service, addition and deletion of destinations on a whim, technical delays and delays for VIPs, no new aircraft, unprofitability, declining passenger numbers and pretty much a reversion to what Air Lanka was. Unfortunate it had to end like this. I guess it was good while it lasted.
technical delays and delays for VIPs
This happened ceaselessly during the last 10 years. So why "expect" it when its already happening?!
If Sri Lankans cannot get a job done right, then I see nothing wrong in letting others do it right.
This is such a dismal attitude and reflects perfectly on one of the primary flaws in our society with the quick fixes, short cuts, short term solutions and short term thinking.
Everything is about here and today. No one can think that making sacrifices today and "suffering" in the short term will benefit us tomorrow, and the long term.
I can give a damn good example of this-but it relates to the war and will involve Indian bashing-but what the hell these dates, names and events should suffice: 1968,1972,1977, 1987 and today, Indra + Rajjiv Ghandi, open economy, Operation Vadamarachchi, the infamous parripu drop, Indo Lanka accord- all show how long term planning/policy on India's part has been beneficial to them.
Anyway I believe our business community could succeed. I want to see more state institutions go to Lankan companies 100% run by us -not some foreigners and locals working for them. Of course this involves politics with the SLFP refusing to privatise and UNP wanting to sell everything to the West while completely ignoring domestic Lanka.
Praetorian January 6th, 2008, 08:40 PM That's a comment by someone after hearing that the Emirates-SriLankan deal might not go on.
If you don't mind, could you direct me to the forum (i assume it was in another forum) where it was mentioned? Or is it something you got from word of mouth. I'm doubting any of it :cheers:, just want to see what other people have said if its from a forum. :)
Amal January 6th, 2008, 08:57 PM This happened under the deal anyway. So why "expect" it when its already happening.
Actually SriLankan Airlines has been quite good with its flights arriving and departing on time. It was actually rubbing away the Usually Late (UL) appellation Air Lanka had garned.
This is such a dismal attitude and reflects perfectly on one of the primary flaws in our society with the quick fixes, short cuts, short term solutions and short term thinking.
Everything is about here and today. No one can think that making sacrifices today and "suffering" in the short term will benefit us tomorrow, and the long term.
I can give a damn good example of this-but it relates to the war and will involve Indian bashing-but what the hell these dates, names and events should suffice: 1968,1972,1977, 1987 and today, Indra + Rajjiv Ghandi, open economy, Operation Vadamarachchi, the infamous parripu drop, Indo Lanka accord- all show how long term planning/policy (on India's part) has been beneficial to them.
Anyway I believe our business community could succeed. I want to see more state institutions go to Lankan companies 100% run by us -not some foreigners and locals working for them. Of course this involves politics with the SLFP refusing to privatise and UNP wanting to sell everything to the West while completely ignoring domestic Lanka.
The bottom line is Emirates took a dismal airline with no future and turned into a profitable one with a future. The airline's punctuality, services and international standing increased. It received new planes, with all the trappings and better agreements with Indian authorities.
Do you remember what the Air Lanka website looked like? Forget about internet bookings, or booking your meals online, it looked like something a 5 year old put together in computer class. Compare even the old Serendib magazine of Air Lanka and the new Serendib magazine of SriLankan Airlines and you will see a vast difference.
It's all well and good to be nationalistic, but the fact is corruption and mismanagement is rife in the government (whatever party is in power whether UNP or SLFP). Their cronies get to run important institutions and make a complete mess of everything besides lining their pockets with cash. For example, look at the state of Sri Lanka's railways. If we handed its management over to Emirates I'm sure they would do a bang up job with that as well, just like they did with Air Lanka.
Sri Lankans have had enough opportunies and ample time to manage the national career on their own. Unfortunately however, they have failed, all the way from Air Ceylon to Air Lanka. Sri Lanka's national career reached its epitome under Emirates management.
I'm afraid the termination of this deal is the worst thing that could happen to UL at this moment in time when the political situation in the country seems to be getting worse. Emirates was going to bring in new aircraft (with the new entertainment system) like it did when the agreement started. But that's not going to happen soon.
I agree that the agreement may have been slanted in Emirates' favour, but it did a whole lot of good for SriLankan Airlines as well.
Amal January 6th, 2008, 09:04 PM If you don't mind, could you direct me to the forum (i assume it was in another forum) where it was mentioned? Or is it something you got from word of mouth. I'm doubting any of it :cheers:, just want to see what other people have said if its from a forum. :)
I think the site is:
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=2994
Fusionist January 6th, 2008, 11:03 PM Interesting debate on such a significant issue. I hope we can discuss it without getting too wound up in politics.
Anyways, my two pence worth, I would guess market economy should be the determinant as to how things are run, not the state. Looking by it, I don't think the GoSL has understood that concept that well. I wish the repercussions of this fallout can be cushioned out with some smart move now by the GoSL.
lordvader January 6th, 2008, 11:19 PM Emirates to sell Sri Lankan stake
Dubai's Emirates paid $70m for its stake in
Sri Lankan Airlines in 1998 [File: EPA]
Emirates, Dubai's flagship carrier, has announced that it is willing to sell its stake in the state-controlled Sri Lankan Airlines.
Emirates made the move on Sunday after the Sri Lankan government sought greater control over the day-to-day management of the commercial carrier.
Tim Clark, Emirates' president, said: "The government was seeking greater control over the day-to-day business of the airline, which was not acceptable to us."
Emirates said that it was willing to sell all or part of its 43.6 per cent share of the airline after declining to renew its 10-year management contract, which expires in March.
"Emirates has notified the government of Sri Lanka that it will not be renewing the shareholder's agreement, which expires on March 31," the airline said in a statement.
"With effect from April 1, management control of Sri Lankan Airlines will pass to the government of Sri Lanka."
"It's an amicable parting," Clark said.
Seat controversy
Last month the Sri Lankan government revoked the work permit of Peter Hill, the chief executive officer of Sri Lankan Airlines, who was seconded from Emirates.
This came after the airline refused seats to Mahinda Rajapaksa, the Sri Lankan president, and 35 officials who were visiting Britain.
Clarke said Emirates would look for about $150 million for the complete stake and that Sri Lankan investors might be interested in buying the share
Emirates paid $70 million for its stake in Sri Lankan airlines in 1998, with the Colombo government retaining the majority share in the airline.
Emirates had been expected to renew its management deal and expand the carrier's fleet by up to 30 aircraft.
Emirates does not have a stake in any other airline.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4A5E346-C309-476D-AB91-A6D26020823B.htm
saraprobe January 6th, 2008, 11:40 PM [b][SIZE="4"]
"It's a good buy. We would be seeking about $150 million if we were to sell all of our stake," Clark told the Reuters news agency.
http://www.lankaeverything.com/vinews/srilanka/20080106101958.php
Eventually it's gonna end up in private hands^^
justy January 7th, 2008, 05:08 AM Mihin Air, Sri Lanka’s low cost airline is planning to launch their European destination this year. The airline was initially planning to fly to Italy, mainly to attract the high Sri Lankan expatriates.
Presently passengers from Italy have to fly to Qatar, Dubai or be in transit in other destinations before flying to Colombo. “We see a market from a direct flight,” and official said. “We are now awaiting for approval,” he said.
He said that the airline is continuing with their operations to the Maldives, Gulf and Far East. Mihin Lanka deploys A321 aircraft for these operations with Turkish pilots.
The airline, which operated mainly to cater to the local migrant workers who are presently forced to spend heavily for their passage to Dubai, now continues to operate five flights a week to Dubai. Mihin Lanka is offering the lowest airfare, which is around 35 per cent, less than the usual fares and this is a major incentive for migrant workers.
In addition, the airline has a twice a week frequency to the Maldives.
In a bid to introduce low cost travel to the public, Mihin Lanka operates three flights a week each to both Bangkok and Singapore.
Visa on arrival and the shopping offers make Singapore an attractive destination. There are many Sri Lankans who take extensions from Singapore to Malaysia, once again taking advantage of the Visa on arrival offered to Sri Lankans from Malaysia at the Singapore border. (By paying US $ 35.)
The enhanced cargo allowance offered to both these destinations is another attraction. Indian operations would recommence soon.
saraprobe January 7th, 2008, 10:36 AM (Updates with fresh quotes, details throughout)
By Simon Gardner
COLOMBO, Jan 7 (Reuters) - The Sri Lankan government said on Monday it was too early to say if it would be interested in buying Emirates airline's [EMAIR.UL] stake in flagship carrier SriLankan airlines.
Emirates said on Sunday it was looking to sell all or part of a 43.6 percent stake in SriLankan Airlines valued at around $150 million after the Sri Lankan government sought greater control over the airline's day-to-day business.
"It's too early to say anything," Sarath Amunugama, Minister for Enterprise Development and Investment Promotion, told Reuters when asked if Sri Lanka was interested in buying Emirates' stake.
"These are new decisions that have come, no?" he said. "It's a very serious matter, so we have to examine it in detail ..."
Emirates President Tim Clark said on Sunday the Dubai-based airline had declined to renew a 10-year management contract of SriLankan, which expires at the end of March, saying the government's push for greater control was "not acceptable to us", though he added the parting was amicable.
Emirates said management control of the airline would pass to the Sri Lankan government, which holds a 51 percent stake, on April 1.
The government last month cancelled the work permit of SriLankan CEO Peter Hill, who was seconded from Emirates, after the carrier refused seats to President Mahinda Rajapaksa's 35-strong entourage.
Rajapaksa went on a private visit to Britain to watch his son's graduation from a naval college, but couldn't get a place on the SriLankan Airlines flight home because of holiday traffic.
The government says the airline misled it and had promised seats, which airline sources deny.
Rajapaksa ultimately had to charter a return flight with government-owned budget airline Mihin Air, which the president launched earlier this year and is named after him.
"Peter Hill's case and the renewal of the contract coming to an end are two different issues," said Keheliya Rambukwella, Minister of Foreign Employment Promotion and Welfare. "Fortunately or unfortunately, they have coincided."
Emirates had in September expected to renew its management contract for at least another five years and wanted to double the carrier's fleet to as many as 30 aircraft.
Emirates paid $70 million for the stake in SriLankan, its only investment in another carrier. (With reporting by James Cordahi in DUBAI; Editing by Ian Geoghegan)
guardian.co.uk/ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7203786)
Looks like SL gov doesn't have $$$$ to buy the stake:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
jaybob January 7th, 2008, 12:25 PM Shame but not unexpected. Will be interesting to see how this pans out. What will happen to the aircraft that are on lease and who has the money to buy a stake. I know Singapore airlines are looking for aquisitions, currently China would they be interested in buying a stake. The only thing is the 2 businesses may overlap, and the govt may have put off outside investors.
saraprobe January 7th, 2008, 02:04 PM Jan 07, 2008 (LBO) - Sri Lankan Airlines is not an attractive opportunity for potential investors unless it comes with ground handling and catering, as airline operations alone were not very profitable, analysts said.
The Bloomberg newswire quoting presidential secretary Lalith Weeratunga said a committee may be set up to look into options after the Emirates' "unilateral decision" to exit the airline.
Emirates chief Tim Clark has said Sunday that he was looking for 150 million dollars for its 43.6 percent stake in SriLankan Airlines, but investors who have been sniffing around the airline say that it is somewhat 'expensive'.
"At 150 million dollars for Emirates stake, you are valuing the airline at around 350 million dollars," a potential investor who declined to be identified told LBO.
"That is expensive. If ground handling and catering is not part of the deal it is not attractive at all. Potential buyers would also need to know whether they are getting a management contract or not."
All or nothing?
By end March 2007, the company showed a book value of 17.9 billion rupees and gross assets of 41.5 billion rupees (380 million US dollars).
Analysts say equity in the airline has been trimmed as paid-down aircraft have been recently re-financed to get liquidity, but it has a route network including 100 weekly flights to India which needs continuing tight management to turn into cash.
"It's a good buy," Clark told the Reuters agency in Dubai. "The government was seeking greater control over the day-to-day business of the airline, which was not acceptable to us."
The existing 10-year management deal with Emirates ends in March 2008, which Emirates said yesterday that it no longer wants to renew.
The statement followed an increasingly troubled relationship with the Sri Lankan government which fell to a new low after the visa of an Emirates appointed resident manager was terminated by the island in December.
Clark said several Sri Lankan businesses were interested in buying their stake and local media has mentioned Aitken Spence and John Keells Holdings as being interested in the airline.
Aitken Spence is owned by the Stassens group of Harry Jayewardene who is also the current chairman of SriLankan Airlines. He represents the government.
Coincidentally he was also the chairman of the airline, then known as Air Lanka, when it was partly privatized to Emirates in 1998.
At least one other Middle East based airline is also believed to be interested in looking at the airline.
Analysts say high fuel prices and the security situation in Sri Lanka as well as the unhappy experienced of Emirates may put off some buyers, but the airlines foot print to the booming Indian and Maldivian markets are plus factors.
Unbundling?
Last year the airline operations as a stand-alone business was estimated to have not made money as tourist arrivals to the island fell in the wake of intensified fighting with the Tamil Tigers.
For the year ended March 2007, SriLankan's catering unit made profits of 1.2 billion rupees, while the entire group inclusive of ground handling made only 862.18 million rupees.
That was after changing accounting rules to capitalise lumpy maintenance expenditure and write them off over several years.
The airline bought out Thai Air which co-owned the flight kitchen in 1998 and it was upgraded at a cost of around two billion rupees under Emirates management.
The top customer of the catering business is Sri Lankan and analysts say about 80 percent of the ground handling is also accounted for by SriLankan and Emirates.
Emirates and SriLankan are also closely integrated in other ways. It runs a common frequent flyer program and buys IT services from Emirates.
Sri Lankan also distributes Galileo Emirates services, which brought in 162 million rupees in 2007.
Emirates also runs a fuel hedging program from Dubai which alone brought in 1,057 million to the bottom line in the 2007 financial year.
Tough Business
Analysts say the airline may interest Indian players as it is now the largest foreign carrier in to India flying 100 times weekly, in addition to being a surrogate carrier in an out of the Maldives.
Maldives own attempts to start an airline folded and the atoll government is now in litigation with its management partner Malaysian Airline.
Sri Lanka's own government has an unhappy history in running airlines. Air Ceylon, the island's first state airline ran aground in the 1970s.
Air Lanka (which was later re-named by Emirates as SriLankan) was started in 1979 with technical help from Singapore airlines, and was initially headed by a Sri Lankan-born pilot working for Singapore.
In 1998 it was partially privatized to Emirates after being propped up by the government and being embroiled in an Airbus procurement scandal which was financed with the help of a government guarantee and state bank support.
Despite the unhappy experience with state-airlines, Sri Lanka started a controversial new budget airline Mihin Air, at tax payer expense and with state bank and Treasury support.
Mihin Air is frequently featured in the media over its debts with the Ceylon Petroleum Corporation.
Sri Lankan briefly suspended ground handling services to Mihin Air over payment delays deepening the already poor relations between the government and Emirates.
Air Lanka to SriLankan
Emirates originally paid 70 million dollars for a 40 percent stake which was paid in two installments of 45 and 25 million dollars.
At the time analysts estimated the discounted value of the deal to be at least 66 million dollars.
However the deal has been dogged with controversy.
Though procurement scandals were no longer an issue with the management outside state hands, it came under fire from opposition politicians some of whom were hoping to get a piece of the ground handling business.
At time Emirates took over management, the then Air Lanka had four ageing gas guzzling Lockheed L-1011 Tri-Star aircraft which were acquired in 1980 as well as three new Airbus A340-300 aircraft and two A3200-200 aircraft.
With the fleet of nine aircraft, it carried 1.2 million passengers and 36,400 tonnes of cargo, in the 1998 financial year. Emirates then re-branded the airline as SriLankan, dumped the Tri-Stars and re-fleeted the airline will Airbuses.
In the 2007 financial year, with a fleet of 14 airliners and two Otter seaplanes SriLankan carried 3.1 million passengers and 88,800 tonnes of cargo. It had 6.5 billion rupees in cash reserves.
In 2004 the airline had its best year when it made a profit of 7.4 billion. Its biggest challenge came in 2001 when a Tamil Tiger attack on the country's international airport wiped out a part of its fleet.
Though suffering a loss of 4.7 billion loss and badly hit by war risk insurance it managed to survive by using Maldives as a hub to terminate long-haul flights and serving regional markets.
phil.froelich January 7th, 2008, 04:54 PM I hope the airline stake will be sold to an internationally acclaimed airline, with large financial assets and connections, I hope they also get to manage the airline...
saraprobe January 7th, 2008, 10:48 PM I hope the airline stake will be sold to an internationally acclaimed airline, with large financial assets and connections, I hope they also get to manage the airline...
Yep, me too I dont think anyone wanna buy it without ground handling & catering service:ohno:
Amal January 8th, 2008, 12:23 AM Few buyers for SriLankan stake
by Shweta Jain on Tuesday,January 8,2008
(AFP)
Gulf carrier Qatar Airways and two Indian airlines, Kingfisher Airlines and Jet Airways, are likely contenders to pick up a stake in SriLankan Airlines, with whom Emirates ended its 10-year management contract on Sunday, according to sources close to the island nation carrier.
Emirates’ President Tim Clark had said on January 6 that the airline is open to the idea of selling in full or part its 43.6 per cent share in the airline for an estimated fair value of $150 million (Dh550.5m). “There are other airlines and parties [local conglomerates and multinational companies based in Sri Lanka] that are interested in buying a stake in SriLankan Airlines. Although there is no clear indication yet, we have heard that Qatar Airways and a couple of Indian carriers such as Jet and Kingfisher are supposed to be approaching the Sri Lankan Government,” the source told Emirates Business in a telephone interview from Sri Lanka.
Qatar Airways’ spokesperson, Salam Al Shawa, denied the report, saying: “The Doha-based carrier is not interested in picking up a stake in the airline.”
The Colombo-based airlines’ spokesperson Chandana Desilva said Qatar Airways is a strong contender among the possible Gulf airlines.
“By partnering with the airline, Qatar Airways, which is a company with aggressive growth plans, would probably benefit the same way Emirates did 10 years back when it signed a deal with SriLankan. The carrier could offer Doha-based airline prestige and it could use Colombo as a hub to fly to the Far East,” he said.
Desilva added: “The partnership will help airlines such as Kingfisher in gaining international rights since it does not have the rights to fly on international routes.” He said it will all eventually depend on whether or not Emirates will sell its share to these airlines.
Emirates, meanwhile, does not seem to have any issues with that. “I do not think we will have any objection to selling our stake in SriLankan to Qatar Airways if it would be keen, or anyone else who would be interested,” said President Tim Clark.
“It is going to be a very good investment for any Gulf or Asian carrier,” he added.
Ian Burns, spokesperson of Etihad, which has a codesharing agreement with SriLankan, said: “We would like to focus on our core business and growth over the next four years.”
http://www.business24-7.ae/cs/article_show_mainh1_story.aspx?HeadlineID=843
Praetorian January 8th, 2008, 02:35 AM Please not India.
Anyone but them!
Best is for a Lankan company to pull together and buy it.
$150 million, once more Emirates cheats us out.
They supposedly paid 70 million for their shares when this deal was signed 10 years ago, but paid it in two instalments initially $45 million, and then £25 million. However they did not pay the second instalment ($25 million) for years i believe, buy this time money accumulated/earned from Sri Lankan itself was used as the payment.
So they are asking for almost 3x than what they paid for the shares.
Fusionist January 8th, 2008, 03:07 AM Best is for a Lankan company to pull together and buy it.
so who do you think these potential Lankan companies are ? Any realistic contenders ? If not yours is purely wishful thinking and possibly not a practical one.
Amal January 8th, 2008, 06:13 AM UL should have stuck with the agreement, or more accurately, the government should have stuck with the agreement instead of antagonising Emirates. Wonder when UL will get new planes, probably not for a long long time now. A sad event.
lordvader January 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM Please not India.
Anyone but them!
Best is for a Lankan company to pull together and buy it.
If an Indian carrier buys it expect UL to be used as a feeder carrier and its separate identity to potentially vanish. Best is (out of the named groups) for Qatar to buy it, they have the experience and money to keep it going. However there is talk of some local companies and other airlines (no names yet) seriously looking at the airline. In the end the Emirates contract shouldve been extended with some amended conditions.
saraprobe January 8th, 2008, 10:07 AM Gulf carrier Qatar Airways and two Indian airlines, Kingfisher Airlines and Jet Airways, are likely contenders to pick up a stake in SriLankan Airlines, with whom Emirates ended its 10-year management contract on Sunday, according to sources close to the island nation carrier.
Emirates’ President Tim Clark had said on January 6 that the airline is open to the idea of selling in full or part its 43.6 per cent share in the airline for an estimated fair value of $150 million (Dh550.5m). “There are other airlines and parties [local conglomerates and multinational companies based in Sri Lanka] that are interested in buying a stake in SriLankan Airlines. Although there is no clear indication yet, we have heard that Qatar Airways and a couple of Indian carriers such as Jet and Kingfisher are supposed to be approaching the Sri Lankan Government,” the source told Emirates Business in a telephone interview from Sri Lanka.
Qatar Airways’ spokesperson, Salam Al Shawa, denied the report, saying: “The Doha-based carrier is not interested in picking up a stake in the airline.”
The Colombo-based airlines’ spokesperson Chandana Desilva said Qatar Airways is a strong contender among the possible Gulf airlines.
“By partnering with the airline, Qatar Airways, which is a company with aggressive growth plans, would probably benefit the same way Emirates did 10 years back when it signed a deal with SriLankan. The carrier could offer Doha-based airline prestige and it could use Colombo as a hub to fly to the Far East,” he said.
Desilva added: “The partnership will help airlines such as Kingfisher in gaining international rights since it does not have the rights to fly on international routes.” He said it will all eventually depend on whether or not Emirates will sell its share to these airlines.
Emirates, meanwhile, does not seem to have any issues with that. “I do not think we will have any objection to selling our stake in SriLankan to Qatar Airways if it would be keen, or anyone else who would be interested,” said President Tim Clark.
“It is going to be a very good investment for any Gulf or Asian carrier,” he added.
Ian Burns, spokesperson of Etihad, which has a codesharing agreement with SriLankan, said: “We would like to focus on our core business and growth over the next four years.”
24/7 Business (http://www.business24-7.ae/cs/article_show_mainh1_story.aspx?HeadlineID=843#)
aviational January 8th, 2008, 10:31 AM My friends,Acctually Emirates did some good work to develop srilankan.But they took some of our landing slots in Europe,U.S ,etc.
But if Qatar airways take this they will do the same.because they mainly focuses to develop there airline.For an ex:most of the passengers flying between Colombo-Rome transit at Doha(On Qatar airways).They have two daily flights to colombo.most of the Europian traffic to Srilanka is pulled by Qatar airways via Doha.So do you think if srilankan stake is bought by Qatar airways, they will let srilankan fly to same destinations.no way.Qatar airways tried to get licence to fly to Australia.But they only got licence to fly to Melbourn(They were hoping for Sydney).So if they by srilankan stake,deffinitly they will take advantage of srilankan airlines landing slots.
Not only Qatar airways is eyeing on these issuse.All the other parties who are interested in buying this stake, looks for their airlines development.they only want srilankan to run as a profitable airline(Because they invested) and get the advantages(which srilankan airlines have) converted to their airline.
Because Emirates fly's to London,Newyork and most of europian routes in srilankan airlines licence.Srilankan have landing slots which cannot be valuved.Even India does not have these slots.From these things, we can get an idea why all are eyeing srilankan airlines stake.
So it will be better, if a Srilankan company can buy this stake.They will definitly focus on the development of the airline.I also think it will be worse if SLGOV manage the airline.Because any political party comes to power will only think of their votes, and dump unediucated people to the airline.I hope this stake would be bought by a Srilankan company like Ceylinco groupe.
saraprobe January 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM My friends,Acctually Emirates did some good work to develop srilankan.But they took some of our landing slots in Europe,U.S ,etc.
But if Qatar airways take this they will do the same.because they mainly focuses to develop there airline.For an ex:most of the passengers flying between Colombo-Rome transit at Doha(On Qatar airways).They have two daily flights to colombo.most of the Europian traffic to Srilanka is pulled by Qatar airways via Doha.So do you think if srilankan stake is bought by Qatar airways, they will let srilankan fly to same destinations.no way.Qatar airways tried to get licence to fly to Australia.But they only got licence to fly to Melbourn(They were hoping for Sydney).So if they by srilankan stake,deffinitly they will take advantage of srilankan airlines landing slots.
Not only Qatar airways is eyeing on these issuse.All the other parties who are interested in buying this stake, looks for their airlines development.they only want srilankan to run as a profitable airline(Because they invested) and get the advantages(which srilankan airlines have) converted to their airline.
Because Emirates fly's to London,Newyork and most of europian routes in srilankan airlines licence.Srilankan have landing slots which cannot be valuved.Even India does not have these slots.From these things, we can get an idea why all are eyeing srilankan airlines stake.
So it will be better, if a Srilankan company can buy this stake.They will definitly focus on the development of the airline.I also think it will be worse if SLGOV manage the airline.Because any political party comes to power will only think of their votes, and dump unediucated people to the airline.I hope this stake would be bought by a Srilankan company like Ceylinco groupe.
I want this goes to either Aitken & John Keels^^
phil.froelich January 8th, 2008, 02:53 PM I think it has to go to an airline like Qatar or singapore, becuase our companies don't have the neccessary experience and financial assets to really build up SriLankan, especially when harder times do come...
saraprobe January 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM Breaking News
BOI Chairman Dhammika Perera says govt will take over management of SriLankan Airlines from April 1 after Emirates management agreement ends-JNW JNW
Amal January 8th, 2008, 05:33 PM The beginning of the end of SriLankan Airlines...
Srilankan1 January 8th, 2008, 11:42 PM I heard that Mihin lanka has to give back their 2 Aircrafts to the Bulgarian Company back.Any confirmation about it??
lordvader January 9th, 2008, 12:45 AM I heard that Mihin lanka has to give back their 2 Aircrafts to the Bulgarian Company back.Any confirmation about it??
In that case it looks like both airlines will end up merging under govt management (as many have predicted). :lol:
I think Aitken Spence has a good chance in the long run as Harry J is the current chairman of SriLankan and was chairman of the old Air Lanka when it was actually making profits (just before EK bought in).
Fusionist January 9th, 2008, 12:52 AM In that case it looks like both airlines will end up merging under govt management (as many have predicted). :lol:
This is what I fear :(
saraprobe January 9th, 2008, 01:23 AM In that case it looks like both airlines will end up merging under govt management (as many have predicted). :lol:
I think Aitken Spence has a good chance in the long run as Harry J is the current chairman of SriLankan and was chairman of the old Air Lanka when it was actually making profits (just before EK bought in).
That sounds good^^
saraprobe January 9th, 2008, 02:12 AM * Emirates accused of leaving SriLankan with no aircraft
The Government yesterday announced it was taking over the management of SriLankan Airlines from April 1.
The Government announcement followed a statement issued by the President of Emirates Tim Clarke Monday that the Middle Eastern airline would give up its management rights under a 1998 shareholders agreement of SriLankan at the end of the current contract on March 31.
Board of Investment Chairman Dhammika Perera told The Morning Leader yesterday that the Government would take over the management from April 1 and run it very efficiently without any problem.
He said at the time Emirates took over in the first year the Airline had a fleet of nine aircraft and made a profit of Rs 1.9 billion whereas by last year the profits had come down to Rs. 500 million with no ownership of a single aircraft. He said all aircraft with SriLankan currently are on lease.
There was speculation yesterday the government was planning to invite former Mobitel Chairman, Lalith de Silva to take over as CEO of SriLankan after April 1.
TML (http://www.themorningleader.lk/20080109/news.html)
pathum1986 January 9th, 2008, 09:12 AM i also think if srilankan companey need to buy stake of srilankan airlineAitken & John Keels is the best selection
pathum1986 January 9th, 2008, 09:15 AM I think it has to go to an airline like Qatar or singapore, becuase our companies don't have the neccessary experience and financial assets to really build up SriLankan, especially when harder times do come...
i dont think singapoure airline is a good choise coz we will lost our routs to far east and asia
SLion January 9th, 2008, 04:42 PM I think the site is:
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=2994
Amal's right.
SLion January 9th, 2008, 04:45 PM You guys are giving me the impression that there aren't any decent Lankan companies.
SLion January 9th, 2008, 04:46 PM Please not India.
Praetorian January 9th, 2008, 05:44 PM so who do you think these potential Lankan companies are ? Any realistic contenders ? If not yours is purely wishful thinking and possibly not a practical one.
Wow touchy touchy, didn't mean to upset your delicate world of "we can't do anything". Guess dependence on foreigners for your "fix" blinds you of reality or something.
Open your eyes and have a look around both in Lanka and out of it. The world is not a nice place of smiles and happiness, national interest is number one for all nations and the basis for relations with one trying to gain the maximum for themselves from the other -with Lanka usually ending up on the loosing side.
For starters go have a look at the Lankan companies (some have been named in this thread) which are highly profitably and highly capable that are already in existence, rather than trying to hitch a ride on the Emirates/foreigner band wagon when something "goes wrong".
Praetorian January 9th, 2008, 05:46 PM You guys are giving me the impression that there aren't any decent Lankan companies.
There are plenty of decent companies which are well managed and highly profitable- they do not make it into the news (this has both positive and negative effects).
Praetorian January 9th, 2008, 05:53 PM Air Lanka back in 1998 when the deal with Emirates was made, had 9 aircraft ( 4 brand new Airbus A340s) and flew to 36 destinations. At the time of the deal the airline actually recorded large amounts of profit. And this was under the Government.
Now we do not own a single aircraft.
We have lost huge sums of money with changes in the products/foods used etc, -Now Emirates is asking for 3x more for their shares than what they originally paid for.
We have lost our landing rights to Emirates which is another thing they took from us and then stopped us from flying to these destinations.
Our Pilots were treated like crap.
We had proper management staff that could handle this sort of "big business", raking in profit.
Corruption on part of the Government where whatever profit disappeared without being re-invested to the airline was the problem.
That is why we must (Government) get Lankan companies to buy up the shares and run it, Sri Lankan will prosper.
cbeboy January 9th, 2008, 08:54 PM The Dubai-based Emirates airline is not to renew the shareholder agreement for SriLankan, the island nation’s airline when it expires on March 31 this year.
In a statement the President of Emirates and Managing Director, SriLankan, Mr Tim Clark, has said that Emirates had notified the Sri Lankan Government about not renewing the shareholder’s agreement when it expires.
The statement has raised fears in sections of trade and industry that the transfer of management could not only see a review of the 100 weekly flights that SriLankan operates to India but possibly also an end to the regime of low fares that it offers.
“The airline could review its strategy and decide whether it makes sense to operate flights on some low yield routes rather than deploying the aircraft on more profitable routes,” a senior airline official said.
What this could translate into is a possible review of increasing flights here. Shortly after launching its 100 weekly flight to India, the airline Chief Executive Officer, Mr Peter Hill, said this was not good enough and the airline would like to touch 150 weekly flights in the next five years. The airline used to operate 45 flights a week to eight Indian cities till 2003.
India is an important market for the airline. During the financial year 2006-07, India accounted for 32 per cent of the airline’s global traffic carrying 1.1 million passengers to and from India.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/01/10/stories/2008011050380700.htm
Praetorian January 9th, 2008, 10:06 PM The Dubai-based Emirates airline is not to renew the shareholder agreement for SriLankan, the island nation’s airline when it expires on March 31 this year.
In a statement the President of Emirates and Managing Director, SriLankan, Mr Tim Clark, has said that Emirates had notified the Sri Lankan Government about not renewing the shareholder’s agreement when it expires.
The statement has raised fears in sections of trade and industry that the transfer of management could not only see a review of the 100 weekly flights that SriLankan operates to India but possibly also an end to the regime of low fares that it offers.
“The airline could review its strategy and decide whether it makes sense to operate flights on some low yield routes rather than deploying the aircraft on more profitable routes,” a senior airline official said.
What this could translate into is a possible review of increasing flights here. Shortly after launching its 100 weekly flight to India, the airline Chief Executive Officer, Mr Peter Hill, said this was not good enough and the airline would like to touch 150 weekly flights in the next five years. The airline used to operate 45 flights a week to eight Indian cities till 2003.
India is an important market for the airline. During the financial year 2006-07, India accounted for 32 per cent of the airline’s global traffic carrying 1.1 million passengers to and from India.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/01/10/stories/2008011050380700.htm
Sounds like an India ploy to A) get their dirty hands into Sri Lankan or B) try to somehow kick out Sri Lankan from India all together with spreading rumours like this -Indians are really touchy and obsessed with being top dog of the region.
What you might also see is Indians bribing our politicians to cut the routes etc. They've done this before when they blocked the Hambantota harbour project over 10 years ago - Now their spanking new ports are ready to steal business from us again. Also lets not forget the war they engineered in our land (dumping their problem on us) which completely retarded our development.
As for these "fears" we will have to wait and see what happens, and who will buy up the airline. Keep your fingers crossed it will be a Lankan company.
Praetorian January 9th, 2008, 10:11 PM If an Indian carrier buys it expect UL to be used as a feeder carrier and its separate identity to potentially vanish. Best is (out of the named groups) for Qatar to buy it, they have the experience and money to keep it going. However there is talk of some local companies and other airlines (no names yet) seriously looking at the airline. In the end the Emirates contract shouldve been extended with some amended conditions.
Yeah Sri Lankan always asked for changes to the agreement but hurridly left after getting threats from Emirates.
Amal January 9th, 2008, 10:37 PM Um Praetorian... Emirates was the one that turned SriLankan Airlines into the biggest foreign operator into India with 100 flights a week and a strong brand presence. No other non-Indian carrier operates to more cities in India and no other non-Indian carrier has more flights into India. They were going to take that to 150 flights a week and launch new Indian destinations. There were no attempts made by India to "kick out" SriLankan Airlines. Infact, India has been quite generous and UL enjoys rights that have not been granted to other foreign airlines. I think the accusation you make is quite unfair.
If anything, it is the breakdown of this deal that will let airlines from India take away traffic from SriLankan Airlines as standards of the latter decline (as I expect they will). Currently many Indians choose of their own free will to fly UL over airlines from India. That will change as UL goes down hill. We have no one to blame but ourselves. It seems to be a Sri Lankan tradition to point fingers at others when we should be pointing them at ourselves.
Also, Indians form the largest group of tourists to Sri Lanka.
lordvader January 10th, 2008, 12:48 AM Govt. looking forward to taking over management of SriLankan – Fin.Secy
With Emirates Airlines opting not to renew its management deal with national carrier Sri Lankan Airlines, the Government will take full control of the carrier’s management from April 1.
Finance and Planning Ministry Secretary, Dr. P.B.Jayasundara said the Sri Lankan Government is looking forward to taking over the management of the national carrier Sri Lankan Airlines with the support of Emirates and added that focus now is on appointing an official for the key managerial position of CEO.
He also said that the Government has appointed a committee to focus on appointing a CEO with the support of Emirates and both shareholders will work under a transitional management for the next 3 months adding that “both shareholders will work towards the best interest of SriLankan Airlines”.
The Secretary further added that SriLankan Airlines will remain as the national carrier while Mihin Air will continue to function as a budget airline and went onto say that the two airlines will run as separate entities.
The Secretary also stressed that the Government wanted a bigger stake in the national carrier to make it more favourable and bias towards Sri Lanka and noted that it was time for Sri Lanka to build its own managerial capacity within the airlines and therefore the Government was keen in taking over the management of SriLankan Airlines.
Meanwhile, in a media release SriLankan Airlines Chairman Harry Jayawardene said that the Government will remain as the major shareholder of the airline and will not divest or sell its shares to another partner or carrier.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=3474
lordvader January 10th, 2008, 12:55 AM There are plenty of decent companies which are well managed and highly profitable- they do not make it into the news (this has both positive and negative effects).
Although Lankan companies are profitable, the airline business is very tough and can be very unprofitable at times unless strict management is in place. However I think that they may be able to pull it off.
People also need to shrug off their feelings. If getting a foreign partner is the best thing for the airline, then so be it. Remember that the govt still has a majority stake.
Amal January 10th, 2008, 02:22 AM I lost all hope when I read "the government appointed a committee"...
Praetorian January 10th, 2008, 03:24 AM Um Praetorian... Emirates was the one that turned SriLankan Airlines into the biggest foreign operator into India with 100 flights a week and a strong brand presence. No other non-Indian carrier operates to more cities in India and no other non-Indian carrier has more flights into India. They were going to take that to 150 flights a week and launch new Indian destinations. There were no attempts made by India to "kick out" SriLankan Airlines. Infact, India has been quite generous and UL enjoys rights that have not been granted to other foreign airlines. I think the accusation you make is quite unfair.
If anything, it is the breakdown of this deal that will let airlines from India take away traffic from SriLankan Airlines as standards of the latter decline (as I expect they will). Currently many Indians choose of their own free will to fly UL over airlines from India. That will change as UL goes down hill. We have no one to blame but ourselves. It seems to be a Sri Lankan tradition to point fingers at others when we should be pointing them at ourselves.
Also, Indians form the largest group of tourists to Sri Lanka.
Um Praetorian... Emirates was the one that turned SriLankan Airlines into the biggest foreign operator into India with 100 flights a week and a strong brand presence
And so what? They gained the most from whatever we did under their leadership -that was the whole purpose in the one sided deal from the get go! Maximum profits and benefits for them by using (and epxloiting) us.
No other non-Indian carrier operates to more cities in India and no other non-Indian carrier has more flights into India. They were going to take that to 150 flights a week and launch new Indian destinations. There were no attempts made by India to "kick out" SriLankan Airlines. Infact, India has been quite generous and UL enjoys rights that have not been granted to other foreign airlines. I think the accusation you make is quite unfair.
India is India, they have had no problem slapping taxes on imports from Lanka to protect their own products (some of our food goods got impounded in an Indian port left to rot away, same for some mechanical components). But when we banned export of iron and battery component exports –so Lankan companies could use andm odify and make products out of them- they howled and screamed.
They would see no problem in scuttling Sri Lankan at a time they see fit, thus support an Indian carrier which might be thriving by eliminating the competition .
And when did i say they have made attempts to kick out Sri Lankan? I said they might try it, especially with incidents like this, you proved my point when you said:
If anything, it is the breakdown of this deal that will let airlines from India take away traffic from SriLankan Airlines as standards of the latter decline (as I expect they will).
Already some noise is being made by the Indians as seen by the article cbeboy posted here.
We have no one to blame but ourselves. It seems to be a Sri Lankan tradition to point fingers at others when we should be pointing them at ourselves.
The irony is on the one hand we love to run off and beg for "help" from the people we are pointing our fingers at rather than trying to solve the problem ourselves (which according to you is fine and dandy, with you're if we can't do it once, why try again?! Just ask someone else to do it for us! motto) while on the other hand when we actually try and solve our problems our selves (created or not created by those we point our fingers at) the people we point our fingers at always happen to interfere, tell us what they think we should do and throw as many spanners into the work we do ourselves to remedy a problem (especially when we disregard their "advice") and then come back to boldly proclaim with arrogance you should have listened to us, we know whats good for you!.
Worse are contradictory people like you who first state –rightly- that we should admit our mistakes and take the blame yet in the same breath go on to say that because "we failed" we should run off and ask some foreigner -who does not have our best interests at heart- for "help" rather than trying to fix the problem ourselves no matter how long it takes. Most of our problems in Lanka today wouldn't have taken so damn long to solve nor would they be ongoing, had we NOT sat around and listened to the "help" some foreigners offered –including the very same foreigners who engineered maintain and support the source of our problems.
Sidekicker January 10th, 2008, 03:30 AM pictures please!
Praetorian January 10th, 2008, 03:34 AM pictures please!
Pictures? Okay.
Here's one of Amal and me:
http://www.insidethecbc.com/uploads/arguing.jpg
Sidekicker January 10th, 2008, 03:58 AM hahaha thanks for that
jaybob January 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM Does anyone know what will happen to the planes seeing as they are on lease. Will Ul lose its fleet. If it does get to keep the planes no offence but they are starting to look a little tired and in need of a refurb, something else that will cost money.
SLion January 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM Somebody thinks that the Government taking over SriLankan is an April Fool's joke! :nod:
SLion January 10th, 2008, 11:34 AM The Government said that it was going to manage SriLankan 'profitably'!
Must be an April Fool's joke!
SLion January 10th, 2008, 11:40 AM Does anyone know what will happen to the planes seeing as they are on lease. Will Ul lose its fleet. If it does get to keep the planes no offence but they are starting to look a little tired and in need of a refurb, something else that will cost money.
UL has already lost its fleet.
Depends on what the Gov. will want to do, they are already 'managing' a 'private' airline.
Other than that, I don't know anything about it.
P.S.: Can't SriLankan lease newer planes instead?
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