nice looking tower...and i see its gonna have a familar footprint almost to that of Dubais supertall...go for you Moscow...but watch out for the Fordham Spire in Chicago...also 610 meters..close

1 more reason to visit Moscow :)

definitely! looks freakin' good! :cheers:

^yes only 2m in it, but Moscows tower is mixed use and Chicagos spire= residential. both amazing skyscrapers.

omg! love it!!

Those renders are incredible!!

it's also very possible that the height has been increased a bit more. at least many newspapers now saying about 125-130 floors tower.

i think we are going to know it very soon. strabag almost demolished their developer's town on plot 18.

Taken by Anubis on 29th april
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2536/003av4.jpg

seems to be a lots of activity on the site

it's also very possible that the height has been increased a bit more. at least many newspapers now saying about 125-130 floors tower.

i think we are going to know it very soon. strabag almost demolished their developer's town on plot 18.

with 130F i guess a height with about 640m or so

then the burj dubai can kiss the highest occupied floor level goodbye

Ye 640m sounds about right at this stage.

It looks great that picture.

then the burj dubai can kiss the highest occupied floor level goodbye

wrong, as far as i know will the last 100m or so not be inhabitable. right coth?

as far as i know will the last 100m or so not be inhabitable.
Right

i really like this tower!

yeah!

Wait a minute where exactly in Moskow the Russia Tower will be located..??..will it be near to the 93floor tower..????

Wait a minute where exactly in Moskow the Russia Tower will be located..??..will it be near to the 93floor tower..????
Of course, Russia Tower will be on a triangle site in the center of this picture, and 93f Federation East can be seen in higher left corner:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2536/003av4.jpg

AMAZING HOW MOSCOW IS GROWING SO FAST ^^ ^^

Starbag leaving the plot
taken today by bolik
http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/8785-1/nor_1.jpg

Just imagine... You are able to work and sleep in the Russia tower .... !!!!!
Man that would be awesome!!

thank you coth :)

so does this mean they are going to start digging???

They should start digging in 3 to 4 weeks because it's getting late already they should start next mounth but I don't know when should we declare it under-construction beacause we should leave them digg and that would take some time

wasn't the date june 12th?

it's still highly possible they won't dig on our eyes at all. it was said before that they could select top-down method, so foundation slab could be poured on the ground.

then the burj dubai can kiss the highest occupied floor level goodbye

At 612m the top floor would be 500m according to Coth. At 640m, how do you figure BD's top floor will be less? The 808m version of BD would have a top occupied floor of 625m. Russia Tower's top floor with 640m total height would probably be 520m or so.

I like this design really much. But the most interesting part of this tower is the enormous hight! That's really something. Russia (Moscow) is now in the skyscraper "contest". They're building them fast.

Russia Tower in Moscow City

http://www.citynext.ru/upload/images/15-1.jpg

Very nice!

very nice

This project is great,Moscow is building up fast

600??? danmmmmm

612m ;), maybe more

^^ Yup ZZ-II. Acording to some people it could have been extended to 640 Meters at 125-130 Floors. June is closing in and then we could see yet again a new ubertall project underway :D

Cheers :cheers:

I really like the Russia Tower, its a very very nice super tall!

What a behemoth. It's a *beast*. I'm not liking the design so far. But maybe it'll grow on me.

indeed the floor number is defenetly bigger than 118 levels wich makes us all happy :) a new super scraper is rising :master:

Wow from the previous rendering, I like the 'city hall and duma'??? building (4 squares), it looks impressive there. Russia Tower is too tall unless more 500m buildings are there. The design of Russia Tower is excellent, and it will not looks sore thumbish from the ground level.

Actually the more I stare at the rendering, it is like a summit, and not too sore thumbish at all!!!!!!!

love the design!

Pardon me for the question but when will construction commence on Russia Tower

^^ Supposedly it will start on June 12

Wow from the previous rendering, I like the 'city hall and duma'??? building (4 squares), it looks impressive there. Russia Tower is too tall unless more 500m buildings are there. The design of Russia Tower is excellent, and it will not looks sore thumbish from the ground level.

Actually the more I stare at the rendering, it is like a summit, and not too sore thumbish at all!!!!!!!

I wouldn't say so...

http://citynext.ru/upload/images/overview02.jpg

This is how Moscow city is expected to eventually look like. Doesn't seem too out of place ;)

News:

1. Local municipal assembly has just rejected to approve the construction, pushing out ultimatum to city administration. As far as i know this local municipal assembly mostly leaded by communists.

2. Thank to that we have got some new tech data that was published in local district newspaper. Number of floors is 120 (not including podium). The absolute tip above of sea level is 744,5 meters.

The ground level could be considered the figure 130,1. It is the level of inner IBC street. This figure is ground level for Federation Complex, Eurasia and other towers. So the tip is going to be roughly at 614 meter.

News:

1. Local municipal assembly has just rejected to approve the construction, pushing out ultimatum to city administration. As far as i know this local municipal assembly mostly leaded by communists.


The construction of what has just been rejected? Could you elaborate please, Coth?

News:

1. Local municipal assembly has just rejected to approve the construction, pushing out ultimatum to city administration. As far as i know this local municipal assembly mostly leaded by communists.

2. Thank to that we have got some new tech data that was published in local district newspaper. Number of floors is 120 (not including podium). The absolute tip above of sea level is 744,5 meters.

The ground level could be considered the figure 130,1. It is the level of inner IBC street. This figure is ground level for Federation Complex, Eurasia and other towers. So the tip is going to be roughly at 614 meter.

Explain it please in more simple english

News:

1. Local municipal assembly has just rejected to approve the construction, pushing out ultimatum to city administration. As far as i know this local municipal assembly mostly leaded by communists.

2. Thank to that we have got some new tech data that was published in local district newspaper. Number of floors is 120 (not including podium). The absolute tip above of sea level is 744,5 meters.

The ground level could be considered the figure 130,1. It is the level of inner IBC street. This figure is ground level for Federation Complex, Eurasia and other towers. So the tip is going to be roughly at 614 meter.

Coth could you please explain news number 1 because it is a bit confusing for me.

Cheers dear ruskie :cheers: :D

Coth could you please explain news number 1 because it is a bit confusing for me.

Well, some local assembly, rumored to be made out of communists, is refusing to give permission on the construction of the Russia Tower because they want city government to finalize the contracts for construction of the new houses, that will be built to replace the ones around Moscow City, which will be demolished.
Will it mean delays in the construction of the Russia Tower or not is unclear.

23/05/2007

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9240/img4558hy9.jpg

edit: now i can see it. thx igor :D

All is now good

This thread is not the place to discuss politics. Let's stay on topic, please.

Moscow deserves this beautiful structure.

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/DSC00060/DSC00060-webbig.jpg
Something is going on on the site...

Russia Tower in Moscow City

http://www.citynext.ru/upload/images/15-1.jpg

the tower in the right side of the Russia tower is look like the federation tower,somebody can tell me ,is it the federation tower?

check out the asdod development thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=13460551#post13460551)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/search.php?searchid=847929

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=297180

02/06/07

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8544/img4764it3.jpg

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/6056/img4797tf2.jpg

Looking through the Internet I have found some pictures of this exhibition with a breadboard model of Norman Foster's Russia Tower

http://archi.ru/files/img/news/large/4926.jpg

http://archi.ru/files/img/news/large/4927.jpg

http://archi.ru/files/img/news/large/4962.jpg
Pics from one of the old threads, don't remember them being posted in this one

What is the timeframe for Moscow city to be completed?

http://citynext.ru/upload/images/overview02.jpg

^^ cool building! definitely ten! In few years Moscow will have the best skyline in europe...

@Cartel
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=297180

^^Thanks Coth. Sooner than I thought then. Holding my breath that Russia tower commences soon....

8 days to go. then groundbreaking should start!!

12th off June 2007 :D

Nice pictures BTW.
Thanks for posting them!!

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/DSC00060/DSC00060-webbig.jpg
Something is going on on the site...

yep looks almost completed.... :crazy:

^^ cool building! definitely ten! In few years Moscow will have the best skyline in europe...

In Europe?

That skyline owns the world !

Have they started to dig out the foundation yet? It looked like it in Culwulla's May diagram, but I thought that they hadn't started yet.

8 days to go. then groundbreaking should start!!

12th off June 2007 :D

Nice pictures BTW.
Thanks for posting them!!
don't expect too much.

In Europe?

That skyline owns the world !

:okay:

Chicago Spire vs Russia Tower in Moscow

BRING IT ON!

Cant wait, the skyscraper battle between USA and Russian Federation IS ON!

from Russian Forum (thanks Igor), getting ready to ROCK!

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5908/img4865rg4.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3079/img4867ee5.jpg

Fences and worker houses are getting put in place... Will start soon!

This week it should start ..I wander who is going to start first ??? :) this is going to be funny beacause the two of them will go head to head..and we'll have some comparisons in these 3-4 years to come :)

these two towers will definitely have a race. nearly the same height and consructions start....perfect for race :)

^Russia Tower's height is 744,5m above the sea level. So about 612-614,5 above the ground. IBC site says 612m.

today is a great day is Russia National Day :cheers2: have a great and wounderful day russians all around the world with vodka too :grouphug:

http://i12.************/5xytuo1.png

^Russia Tower's height is 744,5m above the sea level. So about 612-614,5 above the ground. IBC site says 612m.
wow thats about 130m above sea level. so high. in compariosn to Aussie cities. most of our cap cities range from 2m-40m above sea.Canberra our nations capital is 600m above sea level.but has no tall bldgs.
good news about Fosters tower! 2000ft high is double the height of Sydney tower.lol

today is a great day is Russia National Day :cheers2: have a great and wounderful day russians all around the world with vodka too :grouphug:

http://i12.************/5xytuo1.png

Cheers man!

Although to be honest, not that many Russians celebrate it :D

So...did they start construction today as advertised?

:guns1: Theirs no Russian supporter here.

So...did they start construction today as advertised?
Not yet, but maybe something will hapen later today. Anyway, preparations on the site are already going, developers town is set and workers are currently digging something near the perimeter.

It was usual workday on the construction site. Luzhkov has visited start of construction of Chinese Business Center.

First stone of Chinese Buisness Center "Park Huamin" was laid on 12th of june
http://photos.streamphoto.ru/4/7/d/72cd9ef479b4b6ecd4a31d26b5141d74.jpg
and not of Russia Tower as was previously planned.
Still, preparation works on the site and the fact that workers are already there
http://photos.streamphoto.ru/b/4/0/6c1eaa1d76c9a62a6147999dcc32b04b.jpg
gives us hope that construction will start in next few days.

Still, preparation works on the site and the fact that workers are already there

gives us hope that construction will start in next few days.

I doubt it. If they were so close to starting, wouldn't they at least pretend to start on the holiday like they planned? The fact that they were unable to make the holiday start suggests to me that there might be a longer delay.

I hope not ..I hope they'll start soon :) gotta say that this tower is beautiful

Information about 12 June was dated by the mid march. Lately in late April there was some rumors that begin of construction was postponed to September.

Shalva Chigirinsky and Norman Foster themself that time were in Saint Petersburg. On 9 June they have presented a project of tall skyscraper in Khanty-Mansisk and on 11 June they have participated on the groundbreakings ceremony of the New Holland Island redevelopment project.

RBC has published an article about Russia Tower today with a headline - "Russia Tower has false-started".

The article confirms that construction will begin in September. It's also says that the height is going to be 612 meters with 130 floors (not sure if all floors are meant to be overground).

harm to hear that we must wait some months now

The most possible days for groundbreaking ceremony now are 1-2 September. On the City Day weekend. 860 years since first mention of Moscow on paper.

September you say ..we'll just gonna have to whait wount we

First stone will be laid on September 1
http://sob.ru/news6772.html

great to hear that, i'm already really excited :)

Finaly they have set the date

Finaly they have set the date
Just like they set the date on 12th june? :)

^^ Yeap, sounds funny

Well guys, all we can do is to remain optimists. Some activity on the plot holds out hope that the will be no false start in sept.

Love the design of this building, it looks huge, well i guess it is huge.

we'll have to see if it will be 2nd or 3rd tallest when completed :)

Uhm, why 3rd giovani kun? Are you thinking Al Burj?

So! September it is eh? coth & Brad will be busy eh? :cheer:

If any other of the mentioned south korean supertalls (excluding Lotte/Incheon) get built before which seem unlikely, you're looking at a lower number, not by much. This will most likely become the second tallest scraper in the world after BD, the mosntrous Al Burj won't be setting off ground for quite a while.

Amazing design. Hope it'll rise soon.

:rofl:, soon? first they've to build the foundations....i guess that will take much over a year ^^

se vera espectacular

30/06/07

Вот так!!!

http://keep4u.ru/imgs/b/070630/d8f85c1121afd357a4.jpg

http://keep4u.ru/imgs/b/070630/81a6c7410b5fd28e15.jpg
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that looks very good. do you think this steel is for the Tower Gamma-Hamster?

that looks very good. do you think this steel is for the Tower Gamma-Hamster?
I hope so, but it can be for some other tower nearby.

when is london stating thier high tower and how tall is it

this armature doesn't belong to LBT

this armature doesn't belong to LBT
No doubt:lol:

Seiously, if this armature is not from RT, than from where? Terminal? I think they have enough place to store their armature on their plot...

when is london stating thier high tower and how tall is it

look at this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897

:rofl:, soon? first they've to build the foundations....i guess that will take much over a year ^^may be it is not so funny...

They plan to build the foundations and the tower itself simultaneously in opposite directions.:)

oh, that sounds cool. i'm excited to see that :)

I guess only, have Chinese peoples come to Russia Tower for help working (U/C)?? or not??

Hmmmm those steel rebar pipes are just laid down there so iff they dig/drill holes they can insert these rebar pipes directly into the ground when construction starts in September :D

I doubt that armature for this tower

hmm. this is gonna be a freakin sweet building.

can't wait to see it go up.

very beautiful design, very massive building....this could be one of my favorite new projects out there today....whats the latest update?

Anyway we need to wait for September

very nice very impressive, good form and structure...

this tower is gonna be the second tallest tower in the world ?

if it gets built before The Spire Tower in Chicago yeah,,

if it gets built before The Spire Tower in Chicago yeah,,

Actually it will be regardless, since it will be a couple of meters taller than the Chicago Spire.

possible world tallest in 2012

burj dubai-818m uc
russia tower-612m prep
chicago spire-610m prep
abraj albait-579m uc
crown las vegas -575m?
barwa tower doha-570m-start 2008
seoul lotte tower-555m ?
freedom tower-541m uc
dubai pentominium- 516m start soon
swfc-492m uc
icc-484m uc
burj al alam, dubai-484m start soon

you forgot busan lotte tower and Millenium Business center in Busan...both over 500m :)

possible world tallest in 2012

burj dubai-818m uc
russia tower-612m prep
chicago spire-610m prep
abraj albait-579m uc
crown las vegas -575m?
barwa tower doha-570m-start 2008
seoul lotte tower-555m ?
freedom tower-541m uc
dubai pentominium- 516m start soon
swfc-492m uc
icc-484m uc
burj al alam, dubai-484m start soon

and taipei 101! pfff from being nº1 to be nº10 in matter of 5 years.. life is life...

and Al burj? wasnt it about to start? on monday?

^^ sorry for asking but where is ?? Yongsan Landmark Building - 622.5 metres (2,042 ft) - Seoul - South Korea ?????:ohno:

Not to be harsh, but I don't see putting a South Korean building on any list of future supertalls until somebody starts pouring some concrete pilings.

South Korea is a dreamland of proposals that never materialize.

All I know is that those (http://keep4u.ru/imgs/b/070630/d8f85c1121afd357a4.jpg) rebars are to be used for piling. Let's hope that piling will be for Russia Tower. :cheers:

I hope so, but it can be for some other tower nearby.

I'm going to go with "some other tower nearby" as for the piling inserts seen here. This tower is going to be 8 levels below grade, (5 parking, with 3 mechanical, retail above that.) and i doubt this perticular rebar will be used for any type of shoring on this project, also there is no way a project of this size and scope will be built in two directions, this tower begins when digging starts. Which by the way is when??? (the piling and digging operations for the Federation tower took over a year, and this project is just a tad larger than that one.!)

Which by the way is when??? The last promissed date is the first of the nearest September.

The last promissed date is the first of the nearest September.

Lets hope this one starts as planned, the only thing i would change is the angel of the outer "lobe" walls to slightly more vertical, to bring more verticality to it, but this design is far better than the original SOM plan from a few years back!!

I love all of Fosters work.

June 19, 2007

Tower City Hall is a new symbol of the capital

In a few years, the Moscow mayor have a new address. District City built building, which planners intended to be one of the largest and most beautiful in the world. They say even the birth of a new symbol of the capital. Today ends the so-called zero cycle megaproject. Currently pre-tower mayor giant pit, which lost job figures. The draft defies the imagination. The height of over 300 meters, 70 floors with a total area of 700,000 square meters. By comparison, housing a year in Moscow built 5 million square meters. This will be a unique building. A architecture is a stylized letter "M" with the four parties towers. It certainly is not lost among other residential high-City and will be a new attraction capital.

Igor Kovpak, head of the construction company : "I think that this building is a city. Because it reflects the essence of our city is a great, powerful, beautiful, comfortable ".

But already at zero cycle, which in the construction, and so is considered the most complex and time-consuming, zaminka happened. Former contractor left a number of deficiencies, according to the specialists, dangerous to the towers. Close to the proved and groundwater. The depth of the pit - nearly 30 metres. Initially, workers had to work boots wading waist-deep in water.

Igor Kovpak, head of the construction company : "Today we had to assemble an emergency meeting of the Design NIiPI Genplana, with Mosgorekspertizy because the preparatory work carried out inadequate quality. There is a need now to repair the marriage, because we can not continue to build ".


Correct mistakes always difficult. However promise that all defects will be corrected, even during the summer. While exact dates for the opening of the tower is not yet known, probably from superstitions, but confidently say that every four years skyscraper will appear in all its glory.

Source : http://www.tvc.ru/center/index/id/70301108570000.html (вот статья!)

translated :)

Groundbreaking ceremony will happen on 1st September. That is what I heard. Very impressive tower.

possible world tallest in 2012

burj dubai-818m uc
russia tower-612m prep
chicago spire-610m prep
abraj albait-579m uc
crown las vegas -575m?
barwa tower doha-570m-start 2008
seoul lotte tower-555m ?
freedom tower-541m uc
dubai pentominium- 516m start soon
swfc-492m uc
icc-484m uc
burj al alam, dubai-484m start soon

Guangzhou TV Tower 610m, Al Burj 1200m ad the australian solar tower if that counts
Taipei 101 won't even be on the top 10 in 6 years time, less than a decade of reign and its stripped of its title, pretty cruel, on SSP the current ten tallest will be yesteryears top ten.

Rumours point to the height of the project being changed from 612m, to 950m :cheers:

Rumours point to the height of the project being changed from 612m, to 950m :cheers:
Ehh, any links? It would be great, but sounds unrealistic.

Just on the worlds highest observation decks. here is a quick list ive compiled, please add it or fix if you feel.
looks like Moscows Fosters tower will have highest decks?

Russia Tower/Moscow-lev118/510m -uc
SWFC/shang-lev100-470m -uc
Guangzhou tower-450m & space shot ride-500m -uc
cn tower/toronto-space deck-447m -1975
Burj Al Alam/Dubai-lev -447m -uc
Burj Dubai-lev124-442m -uc
ICC/HK- Ritz carlton hotel lobby-420m & lev100ob deck/375m - uc
sears tower/chic-lev103-412m -1974
Freedom tower/NYC-roof-417m? -uc
taipei101/taiwan- lev95/395m -2004

Where's the source of this rumor? Plus 950 metres seems too awfully too tall, especially for a European city, practically a Burj Dubai smasher making it the tallest in the world. A European city having the tallest building over the US/UAE/Asia is quite rare nowadays, I was quite surprised this got approval at 640m in the first place but I think the height restriction and general planning guidelines in Moscow seem a little more relaxed and laid back than Londons.

Ehh, any links? It would be great, but sounds unrealistic.

No links. Inside information **nudge** *nudge**

But of course, it could turn out to be totally Bull$hit

I find 950m to be a little too overpowering. It would quite literarly dwarf everything else on the Planet, never mind Moscow.

Where's the source of this rumor? Plus 950 metres seems too awfully too tall, especially for a European city, practically a Burj Dubai smasher making it the tallest in the world. A European city having the tallest building over the US/UAE/Asia is quite rare nowadays, I was quite surprised this got approval at 640m in the first place but I think the height restriction and general planning guidelines in Moscow seem a little more relaxed and laid back than Londons.

There is a definite plan for the city of Moscow. The regulations were many times subject to corruption, many unsuitable places (steep hills, unstable land) for buildings were suddenly declared suitable for development by a certain company, many minor historical buildings suddenly being demolished and cleared away for new restaurants, shops, etc...

But in terms of height and design of buildings, the plans always seem to change (usually for the larger) in Moscow, which is probably as you say a result of a more relaxed attitude about these sort of things.

^'unsuitable places' is just a big stereotype.

Just on the worlds highest observation decks. here is a quick list ive compiled, please add it or fix if you feel.
looks like Moscows Fosters tower will have highest decks?

Russia Tower/Moscow-lev118/510m -uc
SWFC/shang-lev100-470m -uc
Guangzhou tower-450m & space shot ride-500m -uc
cn tower/toronto-space deck-447m -1975
Burj Al Alam/Dubai-lev -447m -uc
Burj Dubai-lev124-442m -uc
ICC/HK- Ritz carlton hotel lobby-420m & lev100ob deck/375m - uc
sears tower/chic-lev103-412m -1974
Freedom tower/NYC-roof-417m? -uc
taipei101/taiwan- lev95/395m -2004

well, actually we don't know yet where is it going to be. few months ago an architectural magazine was saying it's going to occupy 5 top floors. but recent news articles says it will be in the middle of tower..... so, at about same height as in complex federation... i hope it was just a journalist's mistake.

wow. crazy if this thing is built at 950m.

eney pic from the plot yet ?

This tower is appear to be very wide. That is total sq ft of this building and is it greater then it of Burj Dubai?

520 000 sq meters

including

- offices: 140 000
- apartments: 94 000
- hotel: 32 000
- retail: 69 400
- restaurants, cafes etc: 10 800
- technical spaces: 44 100
- parking for 2952 places: 109 700

Rumours point to the height of the project being changed from 612m, to 950m :cheers:

i don't believe that

[QUOTE=Daniil N.;14425058]
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1564/1930pc0.jpg

The plot area looks pretty small in comparison to some of the others. This tower is supposed to have a huge base, albeit in a triangular configuration.

That building next to the construction site is horrible. Hopefully it will remain hidden behind Russia Tower in the future.

That building next to the construction site is horrible. Hopefully it will remain hidden behind Russia Tower in the future.

Do you mean the blue-roofed 2 storey house? That's temporary accomodation for the workers of the construction site. You can see such buildings on the edges of all the major construction sites in Moscow City.

The plot area looks pretty small in comparison to some of the others. the apex of the triangle (in the right bottom corner) that is cut off by a road belongs to the plot too.

Do you mean the blue-roofed 2 storey house? That's temporary accomodation for the workers of the construction site. You can see such buildings on the edges of all the major construction sites in Moscow City.

No... :bash:

I'm talking about the big ship-like building with its fat tower. (I think it's called Northern Tower Business Center)

That building next to the construction site is horrible. Hopefully it will remain hidden behind Russia Tower in the future.In the future Russia Tower will be hidden behind that tower for those who ride along the transport ring. :)

i don't think this complex is ugly. and it isn't completed yet :)

The Northern tower appears very generic, not ugly. Will work as a filler lot I guess. :)

Not to be harsh, but I don't see putting a South Korean building on any list of future supertalls until somebody starts pouring some concrete pilings.

South Korea is a dreamland of proposals that never materialize.
Maybe Samsung should stop constructing everyone else's supertalls (e.g. Burj Dubai) and build one for the home team? :lol:

Well, it's not Samsung paying for construction of Burj Dubai...

:lol: WTF? Who is the kerazy person!? :nuts:


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1564/1930pc0.jpg^^ Way cool pic Brad.

This is not the place to debate whether Russia is Asian or European. Let's get back on topic...

04/08/07
http://ro.foto.radikal.ru/0708/85/97ff8d94ca04.jpg

I thought this was u/c:nuts:

is this the plot were the Russia Tower going to stand ?

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1564/1930pc0.jpg

end when is they going to start cunstruktion ?

i wondering were the floor plan is ?

time is slipping fast ..and the tower will begin soon :D

don't expect too much yet again. there are rumors the project still not left the design bureau.

end when is they going to start cunstruktion ?

last news was september but as coth said it can easiely be later

is this the plot were the Russia Tower going to stand ?

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1564/1930pc0.jpg

end when is they going to start cunstruktion ?

image didn't post right!!:ohno:

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ok this bulding is going to hawe the higest observation deck in the world !

They should begin the construction before the Russian winter freezes the ground. Maybe it would not only freeze the ground, but also the construction process, but at least it would slow it down, I guess (anyway I am not surprised about the whole "progress" of the whole project).

Climate in Moscow is about between New York and Minneapolis. Be worry about Freedom Tower then as well......

is this the plot ere it is going to bult ? http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6270/923am3.jpg

too me it looks like wery small for that tower !

^^ That's part of the plot.

^^ That's part of the plot.

ok but were is the wol plt then ?

^^ The rest of it is beyond that cross road in the bottom right corner

wat is going on right now on the plot ?

end can som one post a photo update end post here ?

^^ There's nothing really to post. Not much is going to happen on this plot until at least September. Once things start moving, I'm sure our friends who have been diligent in keeping us with updates on the federation tower will do likewise with this.

^^ There's nothing really to post. Not much is going to happen on this plot until at least September. Once things start moving, I'm sure our friends who have been diligent in keeping us with updates on the federation tower will do likewise with this.

thats rely wonderful too read ! it is geting rely rely rely intresting to folow the worlds greatest skyscraiper development`s

1 818 m bulding 3 600 m buldings end meney meney 400 m buldings !
am like a kid in a candy store ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

wat is going on right now on the plot ?
They are constructing second barrack

thats rely wonderful too read ! it is geting rely rely rely intresting to folow the worlds greatest skyscraiper development`s

1 818 m bulding 3 600 m buldings end meney meney 400 m buldings !
am like a kid in a candy store ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

CS, Russia Tower...and what is the 3rd 600m tower?

the 610m TV tower in Guangzhou maybe.

the 610m TV tower in Guangzhou maybe.

yess you are exakley right !

This for me is a very beautiful building and I wouldn't mind living in it.

This for me is a very beautiful building and I wouldn't mind living in it.

Only way for you or me to afford a place there, is to win the lottery twice in a row :cheers:

^^ That,s really depressing

Climate in Moscow is about between New York and Minneapolis. Be worry about Freedom Tower then as well......

Year middle temperatues:
Moscow: 5 degree (Fahrenheit: 41)
New York: 12 degrees (Fahrenheit: 53.6)
Minneapolis: 7.1 degrees (Fahrenheit: 45)

Moscow is goddamn cold!! Can't really live there and wouldn't surprise me if they had problems in the winter!

what's happened to the so called rumour mill height of 840m or was that just a joke?

@devilsadvocate
Moscow is more moderate than Minneapolis. We have cooler summer and hotter winter. Still Moscow climatic zone is changing significantly in last centuries. In last 125 years average temperature gone up from 3C to 5,5C. This year is full of records. Average temp of November 2006 - November 2007 period will be 3-5C above of normal.

@Myster E
It wasn't a joke, nor it was a rumor. It was just a forumer, who heard something somewhere don't remember where and about what. However the project is still on design stage, so everything could be changed.

^^ yeah they have a problem with the floor number as I can see .. they might increase the number of floors...but that means heigher weight so it's a tricky thing (only speculations from 120 fl to 145 fl) :)

Two excavators appeared on the site, but it is unclear if they are related to Russia Tower or not...
http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2232/CIMG2232-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2229/CIMG2229-webbig.jpg

is the soyal test done ?

half a year ago

ok end so it bigins then ! i rely hope it`s geting fast to start !
way start on the faundation on the winter isnt it better to do faundations on the summer or the spring ?

what is the soyal test ?

soil

completely logical deduction:lol:

The upper layer of the ground is being removed.

24/07/08
Чудо из чудес!
Ничалось движение на участке!
Сейчас активно снимают верхний слой грунта.
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Whoever said that this is the perfect tower for Moscow was right. It looks a lot like a Soviet monument!! :lol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/P1010030.JPG/450px-P1010030.JPG
Soviet Monument at Sachsenhausen. (Yeah I know it's in Germany, but you know what I mean)

Wouldn't mind seeing this project in Los Angeles. Looks like it could take a good shaking, unlike the Dubai structure. A good stiff breeze will bring that down. Really, the wind doesn't blow there?

It looks a lot like a Soviet monument!! :lol:
What is funny for you?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1348/1221628152_3af3d1929b_o.jpg

What is funny for you?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1348/1221628152_3af3d1929b_o.jpg

It look pretty accurate in this 2D pic, If it standing out the same height at the distance same as SWFC in the background :lol:

http://rp.foto.radikal.ru/0708/fe/1b4844a81d6c.jpg
igor

i think the philing will strt soon

Nice to see some dirt moved. Now we just wait for some large scale process.

fantastic news :)

Anyone now know what is the current proposed height?


Heard from someone mention in other thread that it has been increased to 640m or 2100ft

~612m

744,5m above of sea level

The big three.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/77/worldstallestdiagramnj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Big Drill looks taller than RT:bash:
btw, don't forget about Guangzhou TV Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=410003) and Incheon Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=480186).

That'd look like that except that RT would be a bit taller than the last three.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8629/comparsr8.png (http://imageshack.us)

The big three.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/77/worldstallestdiagramnj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

this diagram is not right the russia tower is 2 m taller then the spire !

Agree, that is an old diagram for RT we need the new one

Photos by proger 27.08.2007

http://proger007.fatal.ru/2007.08.27/IMG_3486.JPG


http://proger007.fatal.ru/2007.08.27/IMG_3493.JPG

Big story, a great project!

I love MOSKVA :)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8629/comparsr8.png (http://imageshack.us)

...and to think after 9/11 the naysayers said we would stop building supertalls ..

This will be one hell of a building.

hehe...europe will have an taller tower than U.S.A!!thats great...i think it shows that russia wants to overcome the us!!and shows that moscow is a city for the future...i believe it will rise to its former power again in the next 20 years!!

^^ i doubt it.

^^ i doubt it.

well ..then doubt it,but you will see!russia is certainly aspiring to be a 1st class power!!

well ..then doubt it,but you will see!russia is certainly aspiring to be a 1st class power!!

You are right. Russia is aspiring to be a 1st class power. And they are using your dependance on Russian gas and oil to help accomplish this.

Perhaps you should be spending more time thinking about pipelines through Turkey than tall buildings in Moscow.

You are right. Russia is aspiring to be a 1st class power. And they are using your dependance on Russian gas and oil to help accomplish this.


I don't see anything wrong with that.

I always love when some Americans complain about Russia using oil and gas to get some political advantage, etc. Whether they are right or wrong (more often wrong than right IMO) - it is so hypocritical to cry about this on their part, considering it was USA and OPEC who drove oil and gas prices into the ground to bankrupt Soviet Union.

^^ i doubt it.

And your reason(s) for your doubts are?

when will cunstruktion begin ?

nice building, but i doesn't like this shape :)

Whats the probability of this thing getting built? By all means I hope it gets built I am just curious as to where this project is at and what otrhers think.

Pretty high. Construction is scheduled to start next month, and indeed they seem to be preparing the plot.

this tower is amazing, I like!

Pretty high. Construction is scheduled to start next month, and indeed they seem to be preparing the plot.
Official ceremony is supposed to happen this Saturday.

Official ceremony is supposed to happen this Saturday.

　Hope we'll have some pictures of the official ceremony :)

　Hope we'll have some pictures of the official ceremony :)
If it will really happen on saturday without more delays, i think all russian section of the forum will be there with cameras:)

Why do you always see this after a few off topic comments are made? This tower isn't even going to start construction till next year.. we're passing the time. It's the endless trolling that ruins threads not a few of topic remarks.

Next year? Construction is supposed to start in September.

Next year? Construction is supposed to start in September.

Yeah.. sorry, that was my mistake. But one I'll gladly admit is wrong.

How drastic.
No, what I was referring to is not how things went between those countries, but how russia treated countries like germany and italy during the crisis. Total arrogance and neglection, at a level not even washington would do.

Idinah

Yeah.. sorry, that was my mistake. But one I'll gladly admit is wrong.

^^ :okay:

its going to look so eligant

Hi guys.

Last night I did a little bit of research on this building, mainly due to the fact that I am incredibly impressed by the design, I think it is one of the best designs for a supertall I have seen.

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/9682/1860453435.jpg

According to this section plan, if the elevation is 612m, each floor measures 4.34 metres to the next floor. So the floor-to-ceiling height is probably around 3.8 metres? Also the lobby at the base of the tower is massive, it measures 56.42 metres high from floor to ceiling.
That's all I have right now, I'll look at it more later. Cheers. :cheers:

probably the best looking one to date?

sure this one is really nice i hope it will start rising soon

This tower WILL BE!

31.08.2007

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2239/CIMG2239-webbig.jpg

Who did this?:lol:

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2238/CIMG2238-webbig.jpg

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http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2250/CIMG2250-webbig.jpg

Taking in account pics from today, i think status of the tower can be changed to "preparations".

this is MY! Tower!..i had the 500th posthttp://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/banana.gif
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extremley good news ! so it is finaley under cunstruktion !
when can we aspect it to start rice ?

Good news :)

Keep the updates and pictures coming guys it'll be nice to see this thing rise out of the ground.

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/CIMG2250/CIMG2250-webbig.jpg

OMG this building looks like Arnold's apartment building in Total Recall!!!

nice building

Gonna be soon u/c

i wonder also whitch bulding is going to finich construktion first CHICAGO Chicago Spire or this one ??

I would not be surprised if this one rises faster -- there are likely fewer restrictions governing construction or safety outside of the United States; these, of course, *restrict* how quickly a building can rise. Also I'm sure the workers will be paid less so they'll probably have more of them. Not to mention the structure of the Chicago Spire is awfully complex!!

I would not be surprised if this one rises faster -- there are likely fewer restrictions governing construction or safety outside of the United States; these, of course, *restrict* how quickly a building can rise. Also I'm sure the workers will be paid less so they'll probably have more of them. Not to mention the structure of the Chicago Spire is awfully complex!!

yes end Chicago Spire has meny mour floors but this one is mutch biger in the bace in sted !

yes end Chicago Spire has meny mour floors but this one is mutch biger in the bace in sted !

Different form makes it wider at the bottom. But what's the difference - both are quite nice. I prefer the Chicago one because it is more graceful with the twisting design. Russia Tower in my mind is a modern Pyramid version.

i like russia tower mour ! the disign is better & it is maid mour for the pepol
i hate that the spire das not have an ob deck !

Well, I think that the twisting design that goes all the way up - is very new and revolutionary. Foster design is good - but there is nothing so new about it. Future Shard tower in London is very close to that. Also the wind on the Michigan Lake is horrible - so this design supposed to better withstand wind than let's say a box type.
The whole building is 100% apartments - no single office - which I like very much. It gives new meaning of living on the Lap of Luxury.
The view from the lake on the new Chicago skyline will be a million dollars view, given the place where the tower will be standing - basically a small peninsula on 3 sides surrounded by water and never be obstructed by anything else. Comparing to the Russia Tower that will stand in a middle of development filled by different shape buildings. I mean - some may like more urbanized look - but I prefer the calm and peaceful view of the lake (and a huge lake so you hardly will see the other side of it) to all the smog, cars, people, noise etc. To go to the window and see water outside - is very relaxing. Knowing that Chicago is second most busy place in US - those who will live there should appreciate the location even more just for the availability of this calming view.

this is a nice tower....will they want to make it a race to 2000ft with Chicago...?