don't worry, not long and it will be UC :)

Moder , change status to Under Construction!

I dreamed about this building last night.. seriously! What's the meaning of this? Too much SSC??:shifty:

I dreamed about this building last night.. seriously! What's the meaning of this? Too much SSC??:shifty:

stay of the vodka :P

:lol: ^^^
real tower fun!!!!!

Looks like things are getting under way. I wonder how long the site prep will last? I live in Chicago and I know I'm just being very greedy by saying this but... why the hell can't this be built in Chicago! I'm so jelious! I know we have dozens of wonderful building underconstruction but I want this one too :(

Бу!!!!

http://photos.streamphoto.ru/d/0/9/92b3368bfaa061706f3c012454e0d90d.jpg

This is how it will look

that looks pretty cool.. wierd how a 600 meter building looks so normal in that render even though there are only like 2 other tall buildings nearby. whereas the chicago spire looks so freakishly tall on a background of other freakishly tall buildings! dont get me wrong, there both great buildings but i just cant put my finger on it really...:)

What an Icon of Moscow this will become...

This and the Chicago Spire are the skyscrapers that I am looking forward most!

^^ Our mayor has a good taste.
He decided that 612 m is much better than 750 or 1000 for this tower:)

it going to look great

that looks pretty cool.. wierd how a 600 meter building looks so normal in that render even though there are only like 2 other tall buildings nearby. whereas the chicago spire looks so freakishly tall on a background of other freakishly tall buildings! dont get me wrong, there both great buildings but i just cant put my finger on it really...:)

The proportions - Base to Height - are more "normal" the Chicago Spire has very small Base for it's height.

Most ( if not all ) of the renders are from angles that show the CS and it's height, from other angles it will not be that out of place ( wait a few years and I'll be posting shots from the west ).

This is how it will look

looks great!:uh:

cheers harry. i know where ur coming from. chi-spires soar is deffinately a good thing for chicago. and it puts america back on the map... for 1 of the worlds tallest atleast :)

cheers harry. i know where ur coming from. chi-spires soar is deffinately a good thing for chicago. and it puts america back on the map... for 1 of the worlds tallest atleast :)

not too long tough ..it will be never again where it was!

I have a feeling that they are going to extend the height of this tower by building a new tower on the top. I have a feeling that Chicago Spire may do the same too.

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I have a feeling that they are going to extend the height of this tower by building a new tower on the top. I have a feeling that Chicago Spire may do the same too.

:nuts:, a tower on the top of the Russia Tower.....think that will never happen. that sounds a bit too crazy

:nuts:, a tower on the top of the Russia Tower.....think that will never happen. that sounds a bit too crazy

But if you see the renders of the two, they all have no antennae and they are both 610m and 612m. I bet they have a hidden agenda of overtaking each tower by placing an antennae just like what the Chrysler building's architects did to 40 Wall Street in the last minute by putting a new spire.

:nuts:, a tower on the top of the Russia Tower.....think that will never happen. that sounds a bit too crazy

I think he meant adding additional height to both towers...extra floors.

at CS it will definitely not happen but on the Russia tower maybe. i heard something with 640m. but this is has not been confirmed

About "cultural architechture identity":

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/content/press/306/1405_FP209835.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/6/1-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/3/sk455/sk455-webbig.jpg

About "cultural architechture identity":



A picture is worth a thousand words.

A picture is worth a thousand words.An insider told me the secret modifications Gaeus was talking about are really going to happen, there are 2 options on the table:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6421/1405fdt7.jpg
Perhaps this one is more stilish:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6905/1405fp2mt7.jpg
So, the loss of Russian cultural architecture identity is nothing to fear for.
:angel1:

I like the old design also. Looked more Russian.

http://www.emporis.com/images/6/2001/02/103271.jpg

I love this building. It is sleek, elegant, modern, "understated," soaring and majestic. I like the Chicago Spire too (I know we are not supposed compare buildings) but I think Russia's tower is better. It seems very glassy and crystalline. Congratulations to Moscow!

An insider told me the secret modifications Gaeus was talking about are really going to happen, there are 2 options on the table:

So, the loss of Russian cultural architecture identity is nothing to fear for.
:angel1:

:lol: :lol: :rofl: :hilarious

An insider told me the secret modifications Gaeus was talking about are really going to happen, there are 2 options on the table:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6421/1405fdt7.jpg
Perhaps this one is more stilish:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6905/1405fp2mt7.jpg
So, the loss of Russian cultural architecture identity is nothing to fear for.
:angel1:

I prefer a Little Pony better.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6197/littleponygq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What is the progress of the construction?

not much because they just began ^^

when can we see a sugnifikan difrence on the plot ?

14/10/07
http://i012.radikal.ru/0710/49/8eeddf34583d.jpg

it's already snowing :) I love Moskow tnx for the picture Igor

when are they aktuley going to start digging ?

Really awesome design, I love it!

How's the funding for this tower? Is it certain to go ahead?

oh god, it looks cold!

+4

gosh, already snow on the ground...

Snow is melt now =))

very tall indeed, but how can a city like Moscow built such enormous buildings, counting that Russia's economy is not that strong compared to the other European countries?

^^ You're kidding right?

Please visit: Russia's Booming Economy (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=290900&page=28) to learn more about the state of the Russian economy.

Btw, for the trolls and etc out there, I am not denying that Russia doesn't have any problems...

Johnt_gr, projects like these and others in Moscow and all over Russia, are actually great examples of the revival of Russia's economy. Russia is able to build such projects because Russia's economy has recovered, become stronger, and growing!

Again, I am not denying that it doesn't have any problems.

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Mirax company took a loan from VTB bank. And… VTB moves its main office to the Federation. :)
What it has to do with Russia Tower?:)

STT Group co-operate with Dresdner Bank. Many of their projects financed by Dresdner Bank. Also, STT Group is going IPO next year.

Can't wait to see this tower finished.

What it has to do with Russia Tower?:)
Sorry, wrong thread ;)

OMG Fantastic! I think there are new pictures on the first page? They are sooo f*cking beautiful:banana::banana::banana:

very tall indeed, but how can a city like Moscow built such enormous buildings, counting that Russia's economy is not that strong compared to the other European countries?

the economy is booming..and,obviously its showing russias aspiration in the world too!russia wants to be a first-class power again,so its building huge buildings like this...just like the communists did it,but now its Putin's power obsession!

now its Putin's power obsession!
Putin ignores this construction and the City at all. He doesn't care about it: MIBC — is a Moscow project, not Russian federal one.

An insider told me the secret modifications Gaeus was talking about are really going to happen, there are 2 options on the table:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6421/1405fdt7.jpg
Perhaps this one is more stilish:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6905/1405fp2mt7.jpg
So, the loss of Russian cultural architecture identity is nothing to fear for.
:angel1:

I hope these modification won't happen. It looks crazy!

^^this was a joke

I have some lags with pages.

i love this thing!

very futuristic, great design

and the soviet star in doesn't look soo misplaced
just imagine, the soviet union still existed -- then maybe they would build such modern buildings but with 'true' russian cultural design elements ;)

very futuristic, great design

and the soviet star in doesn't look soo misplaced
just imagine, the soviet union still existed -- then maybe they would build such modern buildings but with 'true' russian cultural design elements ;)

That's impossibly!:lol:

That's impossibly!:lol:

Why not? Taipei 101 Tower combines Chinese cultural traditions and cutting-edge design.
http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/grands-chantiers/tours-du-monde/images/taipei-101.jpg

so does the jin mao...

very futuristic, great design

and the soviet star in doesn't look soo misplaced
just imagine, the soviet union still existed -- then maybe they would build such modern buildings but with 'true' russian cultural design elements ;)

Well actually the "star" isn't exactly a "true" Russian cultural design element. More of a Soviet Union design element.

And, if you look a couple pages back, or just click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15749364&postcount=730) you will see, that this building does in fact have real Russian cultural elements.

25/10/07
http://i009.radikal.ru/0710/0b/d5de800b2598.jpg

http://i016.radikal.ru/0710/48/8ad000ead781.jpg

http://i025.radikal.ru/0710/c3/d72a5c6c4723.jpg

http://i043.radikal.ru/0710/3a/7dd7e187c403.jpg

yey igor is back :banana: u da man

yey igor is back :banana: u da man

I second that.

What the progress now?

28/10/07
http://i025.radikal.ru/0710/92/bab1a4fb4c92.jpg

^^ it looks like they've start working on the retaining walls of the site.

The mother of all slurry wall diggers.....

From IGOR ( thx )
http://lh3.google.com/harry.r.carmichael/RyTHscWt0OI/AAAAAAAALRI/5twSSBI1wmg/igor_4ad7956fd44f.jpg

http://www.duchemin.org/jj/stage/HYDRO2.HTM

http://www.bachy-soletanche.com.sg/processes/processimages/DiaphragmWallConstruction.gif

from http://www.bachy-soletanche.com.sg

That is - diaphragm wall. Seems to be French term. So this wall is going to be 57 meters deep. Foundation is going to be 66 meters deep. It will be built using semi top-down method (top-down method with open excavation in the middle of pit). Open excavation is 37m deep.



According to the local district newspaper Naresne height of the tower is 612,20 meters with 120 floors. Observation deck will occupy last 7 floors.

WOW, is the RT really getting built? In its original design? Красивои"е! :)

stunning tower!!!

That is - diaphragm wall. Seems to be French term. So this wall is going to be 57 meters deep. Foundation is going to be 66 meters deep. It will be built using semi top-down method (top-down method with open excavation in the middle of pit). Open excavation is 37m deep.



According to the local district newspaper Naresne height of the tower is 612,20 meters with 120 floors. Observation deck will occupy last 7 floors.

In Chicago it is referred to as a slurry wall, this (French ?) diagram fits exactly what is being done at the Chicago Spire site. The description of "semi top-down" may also fit how the CS will be built.

The device at the Russia tower does not use a clamshell scoop but a chain of buckets - 57 meters is very deep.

http://www.duchemin.org/jj/stage/HYDRO2.HTM

And, if you look a couple pages back, or just click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15749364&postcount=730) you will see, that this building does in fact have real Russian cultural elements.

OMG, the russians invented the TRIANGLE! :banana:

SCNR

I think the building is modern without any special cultural link - which isn't a bad think IMHO. It could be build in chicago or shanghai and would fit in.

Yes, slurry wall is an American term. In Russian it is wall in ground. But a source that provided me this info was saying about diaphragm wall, so I couldn't understand what is it.

OMG, the russian invented the TRIANGLE! :banana:

SCNR
There is also shorter version of RT is planned in Moscow. About 150 meters tall.
http://funkyimg.com/u/72907PICT0023.jpg

^^, looks like a quarter of the RT

OMG, the russians invented the TRIANGLE! :banana:

SCNR

I think the building is modern without any special cultural link - which isn't a bad think IMHO. It could be build in chicago or shanghai and would fit in.

Not saying they invented the triangle... just saying that there are some cultural elements. And of course, as with most modern skyscrapers, they could fit in just about anywhere.

I was just making a point that there are some cultural elements. That's all. Doesn't mean the triangle or anything like that isn't found anywhere else in the world.

great news, thank you Coth :okay:
--Skyscrapers are the best that could happen in my life--Skyscrapers, huh? 1975 I was working in Parque Central, Caracas. In, not on. The way to my office, for me, used be a reliable highlight of the day. I loved the place. So awesome! And the highrise towers weren't even ready. Still under construction.

That year I also stood the first time on the view level of the Empire State Buildung. I liked it, too. I only came back there in 1995, with my wife and a German client with his wife, since it was the firts time for the 3 of them. But I didn't like it as much as during my first visit.

Nothing had changed. NY had been in a 20 year time wrap. Meanwhile I had other constructions that awed me far more, growing all the time, reliable highlights of my life: my first 2 grandchildren. By now there are 4 of them. And last week a brand new construction was introduced to the world:

My first great grandson. Pierre Zenon, in France. I was infinitely more awed than from all the impressive highrise constructions I've seen in my life so far, including those that aren't ready yet. Try this for kicks. I'm sure skyscrapers won't be any longer the best thing in your life.

You mean the 70's when most skyscrapers were boxes. In the 30's they were works of art.

Not saying they invented the triangle... just saying that there are some cultural elements.

I was just kidding :)

But even though you could derive the tower's design from most cultural backgrounds, including russian -- that doesn't matter because the 'culture' changes with every building build. So if you would build dozens of tall pagodas in moscow now, in a hundred years or more everybody would consider tall pagodas a 'typical russian element'.

http://i020.radikal.ru/0711/46/ea95e1b82d8d.jpg

Jedi's power build Russia tower. Photo by Igor.

oh boy....moscow rocks :rock:
just awesome projects :cheers:

is this the sight of the building?

Hey Herr Lind, were you holding a light saber when you took that picture!? :D

:lol::lol::lol:
Jedi Knight that likes skyscrapers? Nice to know... :cheers:

:lol:

Hey Herr Lind, were you holding a light saber when you took that picture!? :D

I think Igor did this:nuts::lol:

By igor:
http://i033.radikal.ru/0711/69/f570ad85ac90.jpg

So, they are protecting the separators from snow. I guess it means that they almost finished assembling equipment since they wont be able to use crane anymore with this tent covering it all.

^^^
By igor:


So, they are protecting the separators from snow. I guess it means that they almost finished assembling equipment since they wont be able to use crane anymore with this tent covering it all.
That seperator is huge - why does Moscow need one, but the Chicago Spire ( also doing slurry walls ) not ? true Moscows are much deeper, but I haven't seen even a small version of this, and the slurrying has started here. ( but not the snow, yet ).

IGOR rocks !

Jedi's power build Russia tower. Photo by Igor.

In modern Russia, Jedi's power builds You...:cheers:

Moscow International Business Center by defenseur :cheers:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5823/mibcxo7.jpg

by antifox2005 23.11.07

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9329/64353240tu6.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7397/73091441vy7.jpg

omfg :banana::banana: brad thank you, that just great looking aerial pictures

I'm really confused, what are they doing now? anyone care to explain?

omfg :banana::banana: brad thank you, that just great looking aerial pictures

I'm really confused, what are they doing now? anyone care to explain?

Those look like pools for the slurry+dirt, and the slurry without dirt, and the slurry/dirt separator in between. This is my best guess, does anyone actually know ? ( tank you again Brad ).

oh ok now I got it thanks

What's the machine for ?

will the low moscow winter temperature be a limiation for consruction speed (expecially for concrete)?

@gamma_ray_burst
actually it has been answered dozen of times already...
no, moscow is not cold. moscow winter is warmer of minneapolis and colder of new york. about +3C on this photo.

will the low moscow winter temperature be a limiation for consruction speed (expecially for concrete)?
Just a little bit: they need some time to cover the section they are working for and heat the air inside. It's not a problem.

Is this tower defo getin built??...i dont really follow the site prep threads incase they dont get build plus im kinda impatient.

STT Group goes IPO
http://www.vedomosti.ru/newspaper/article.shtml?2007/11/29/137033

Shortly: The company will be renamed to Russian Land to avoid of mix-up with ST Group, which was recently renamed to Snegeri. An estimated cost of the company is $10 billion. 20% will be distributed on IPO, so Russian Land expect about $2bln profit.


Photo: Shalva Chigirinsky and Norman Foster
http://www.vedomosti.ru/img/photo/986/3192.jpg

Any update on this construction? :?:?:?

Yeah, really, it's about time!

Soilworks.

Soilworks.

Good to know they haven't stopped! :okay:
If someone finds some pics of the actual works, please post them.

Thanks.

In all the world, this is one of my favorites. It is as bold and powerful-looking as it is sleek and graceful. I love it.

By alexanderb:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5434/44917187nf4.jpg

They are covering small pits in the center to protect them from snow.

I think we will see more progress after the winter :)

By alexanderb:
They are covering small pits in the center to protect them from snow.

Thank you very much for the update.

By alexanderb:

They are covering small pits in the center to protect them from snow.

Small pits ? I'd hate to see a big one.
Thanks for the spectacular update.

ugly :(

^Such an amazing contribution to the thread.:ohno: Maybe if you explained what the hell you were talking about your post might not be the complete suckfest that it is. One word and a smiley does not constitute making a post (in most cases).:bash:

Anyway, I haven't checked this thread in a while, nice to see some progress from the last time I checked. I think this is a beautiful tower. Congrats Russia!

ugly :(

You shouldn't say such things about yourself, even if it is true. :lol:

^^What?

Rule of thumb: If your response is going to be lifted from a second grader, you're better off not typing it out.

I like it, it looks like a starship.

ugly :(

your mom, you, the tower??

congratulation's on other stupid post.

What?

Rule of thumb: If your response is going to be lifted from a second grader, you're better off not typing it out.

you go man, your response is compared to horse butt, horse wins


anyway, did they start working on a slurry wall? and anyone have a dates on when foundation will be done, etc...

when krzewi find this tower ugly it is his opinion! so let him!

But he should atleast offer an explanation as to why he has that view. A one word post is no good, it does nothing for the thread and you can't argue with that ZZ. :)

I'm going to pull a noob...is there a construction time table for this tower posted?

and anyone have a dates on when foundation will be done, etc...The end of the slurry wall construction is scheduled for the next September.
Look at the last line

http://rs.foto.radikal.ru/0709/08/f15570ba1ecc.jpg

The end of the slurry wall construction is scheduled for the next December.

a year from now, wow. thanks brad.

Do you know if they will work just on slurry wall for a year, or they will do other things too?

ugly :(

This section is about architecture and development. Please leave politics out of it.

^^ The man just said his opinion (although which I can't understand), but that's just him, what's the big deal? Leave it out already you guys!

Anyway, what's the date of the final construction end?

^^ 2012

^^ 2012

2012? On that board can you read september 2008?

^^ That's just the foundation, I think. There is no way that the whole tower will be constructed in less then a year.

^^ That's just the foundation, I think. There is no way that the whole tower will be constructed in less then a year.

You're right that's the fondation. To be constructed in a year would be nice of course.:)

That date might be the compleation for the whole of the belowground works, this is I believe going to be top down construction so that implies a lot more works than just the slurry wall.

^^ How many underground floors are there going to be (in meters too, please :))?

If you look closely at the left side of the building in this particular picture, you can see triangle designs in the glass. They kind of make the glass look like solar panels. Does anybody know if this is true?

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3576/41731swu3.jpg

If you look closely at the left side of the building in this particular picture, you can see triangle designs in the glass. They kind of make the glass look like solar panels. Does anybody know if this is true?I don't think solar cells can be made transparent with today's tech, so either you have windows or solar panels.

the park as you can see on the picture,comes that there in real life also ?

Of course, not. Actually there are two or three scrapers u/c at this place.

There is a good dozen of them ;)

@stealt
There is a photo of the model of this district in first post.

beautiful render :cheers:

Of course, not. Actually there are two or three scrapers u/c at this place.

That's too bad :( It would look so much more beautiful with the park.

This building looks absolutely fantastic, Moscow is lucky to be experiencing such an exponential boom in skyscraper construction!

http://www.bachy-soletanche.com/SBF/wwwsbf_uk.nsf/pages/0EED0B3C9046EB91C125732B0047CAC6

Nov 7, 2007 - Soletanche Bachy will be constructing the foundations for the Russia Tower

Soletanche Bachy, through its Russian subsidiary Soletanche Stroy, has just been awarded and signed a contract to construct the foundations for the Russia Tower in Moscow with the STT Group. At 612 m in height, this will be the tallest building in Europe.

Solétanche Stroy will be constructing perimeter diaphragm walls to a depth of 58 m which will be used to support 8 basement levels in addition to the 143 barrettes that will support the floors designed to take the horizontal loading. Several hydrofraises will be required in order to complete these works.

This mega structure designed by the architect, Norman Foster, will house apartments, a hotel, offices and leisure areas. The first stone was laid on the 18th September in the presence of the Mayor of Moscow, Yuri Loujkov and of our representative in Russia.

http://www.bachy-soletanche.com/SBF/wwwsbf_uk.nsf/7859d0bb958700f9c12568db004836b9/0eed0b3c9046eb91c125732b0047cac6/Body/0.562!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpghttp://www.bachy-soletanche.com/SBF/wwwsbf_uk.nsf/7859d0bb958700f9c12568db004836b9/0eed0b3c9046eb91c125732b0047cac6/Body/0.AF5A!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

wow, 8 UG floors! that's much

This last render is very nice !!!! Russia rocks !

I love this design. Moscow is lucky about the skyscapers. All the best designs wiil be constructed there. Go Moscow!

http://www.bachy-soletanche.com/SBF/wwwsbf_uk.nsf/pages/0EED0B3C9046EB91C125732B0047CAC6

http://www.bachy-soletanche.com/SBF/referencesb.nsf/6462bc3a3a129fb0c1256acd004e56dd/d19b4e52ab2f2ec6c1256a45006d5643/Body_en/0.6F8!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif
Soletanche Bachy will be constructing the foundations for the Russia Tower

Soletanche Bachy, through its Russian subsidiary Soletanche Stroy, has just been awarded and signed a contract to construct the foundations for the Russia Tower in Moscow with the STT Group. At 612 m in height, this will be the tallest building in Europe.

Solétanche Stroy will be constructing perimeter diaphragm walls to a depth of 58 m which will be used to support 8 basement levels in addition to the 143 barrettes that will support the floors designed to take the horizontal loading. Several hydrofraises will be required in order to complete these works.

This mega structure designed by the architect, Norman Foster, will house apartments, a hotel, offices and leisure areas. The first stone was laid on the 18th September in the presence of the Mayor of Moscow, Yuri Loujkov and of our representative in Russia.

21/12/07

http://i013.radikal.ru/0712/74/f9b90e3d2d97.jpg

http://i012.radikal.ru/0712/6a/e86aa5fcc5f9.jpg

Thank you for updating Igor. :okay:

28/12/07

http://i024.radikal.ru/0712/ca/d899f5b95b81.jpg

http://i028.radikal.ru/0712/10/8939745dfb42.jpg

thanx for the updates.when is construction due?

thanx for the updates.when is construction due?

2012, 2008 for slurry wall ( and some other crap)

I will use the thread here to thank all Russian forumers who are taking so many pics. Because of you guys we can see some of the most beautiful skyscrapers in the world rising from the ground. Thank you very much and please continue your great work. :okay:

What's the status on this beauty, any updates?

2 posts above.

31/01/08
http://i010.radikal.ru/0801/e7/3bb4565384a7.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2528/CIMG2528-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2529/CIMG2529-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2531/CIMG2531-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2534/CIMG2534-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2536/CIMG2536-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2532/CIMG2532-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2533/CIMG2533-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2537/CIMG2537-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2540/CIMG2540-webbig.jpg

what exactly are they doing atm?

what exactly are they doing atm?
They are boring holes like this along the perimeter:

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2536/CIMG2536-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/CIMG2532/CIMG2532-webbig.jpg

nice photos :okay:
its good to see some progress
on the other hand its sad to see "some" progress

it has been approx. 5 months since groundbreaking ceremony but i havent seen any remarkable change :ohno:

nice photos :okay:
its good to see some progress
on the other hand its sad to see "some" progress

it has been approx. 5 months since groundbreaking ceremony but i havent seen any remarkable change :ohno:

I agree about the amount of progress so far, but on the other hand, this excavation is going to be a monster, in the scope of the WTC "bathtub" in area and depth, and may take as long as (from now) 6 to 8 months, before completion of excavation, and the start of actual foundation work.....

and don't forget that the ground is frozen solid, it is more difficult to excavate during the winter months than summer.

and don't forget that the ground is frozen solid, it is more difficult to excavate during the winter months than summer.

I know what you mean, i worked in chicago for several winters, back in the 90's and frozen ground is no joke....!!!

frozen ground is almost like concrete ^^

Two fresh renders to give you an idea of how it will look when you stand right under this beast.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3889/russiatowerfinal01dk8.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6568/russiatowerfinal02it8.jpg

my god!

:drool:

beatiful tower ... i was very up to date with the federation tower but now i like the Russia Tower better.

http://radikal.ru/F/i012.radikal.ru/0802/ca/17e284c73565.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/i049.radikal.ru/0802/a6/fbfb259be3e9.jpg.html



http://radikal.ru/F/i012.radikal.ru/0802/ca/17e284c73565.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/i049.radikal.ru/0802/a6/fbfb259be3e9.jpg.html

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15/go131.1/0_b742_cebad8ca_orig

^^ thanks ^^

The slurry or diaphragm wall will be 70 Meters (!)

86 Feet (Chicago Spire) is impressive enough - 70 Meters will be a mining operation.

57 meters as far as i know

57 meters as far as i know

Thx - that is very deep - I look forward to watching this one from afar.

Beatyfull towers!There is an amazing construction going on in moscow right now!

by windstride
cutter
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/01.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/02.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/03.jpg

Construction of the concrete plant
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/04.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/05.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/06.jpg

here the special liquid is cleaned to be reused
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/07.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/08.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/09.jpg

from here the ground and sand will come out after having taken out of the liquid
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/10.jpg

Pipes are being bored to reinforce the wall in the ground
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/11.jpg

http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/12.jpg

pipes
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/13.jpg

Plan for pipes. black dots represent bored pipes
http://kovaleff.jino-net.ru/trip/14.jpg

сегодня был тяжелый для меня день, фотик я взял старый, погода тоже как-то не самая лучшая, так что что получилось- то получилось. По башне Россия такие новости - начало работ по стене в грунте намечено на июнь 2008 поект изменяется. Рабочие пока что в большинстве валяют дурака, т.к делать им там нечего, т.к нет проекта . Они планируют бросить все что есть и ути на другой обьект. Стену планируют не меньше года строить, а может и полтора. Сечас потихоньку забуривают трубы, укрепляющие стену в грунте. Башню будут строить Полу-топ даун методом. как сделают половину стену, будут делать баретты, пока я не догнал шо це.
Comrade windstride was able to infiltrate the construction site and got some insider information.
He brings some bad news. They are changing the project of the foundation and because of this, start of construction of the slurry wall was moved to june 2008 .

thx for the massive update :)

a have some more information, I am tired.wait please)

Thanks for update, looks like we will have some visible action soon. :banana:

finally work on this tower is starting...can't wait to see this beautiful tower going up!thx for the updates brad

Awesome updates Windy :D

In the final pic showing the slurry wall plans, you mention black dots represent bored pipes. Are you also referring to the red dots or do these represent a different stage of completion?

Its a really fascinating layout. It appears the perimeter is going to support about 90% of the weight of the tower. Very different to the Burj Dubai, for example, which spreads its load evenly across the whole of its footprint.

Many Many thanks to Brad and Windy - the first picture ! makes Chicago's slurry wall digger look like a toy. and the plans !

If you're ever in Chicago I'll buy a round or 2, I even have co-workers from the USSR who can translate.

Comrade windstride was able to infiltrate the construction site and got some insider information.
He brings some bad news. They are changing the project of the foundation and because of this, start of construction of the slurry wall was moved to june 2008 .

I told you there wouldn't be much of a progress until 2008. Especially during the winter period. It looks as if I was right.
I really love this tower as well as the Crystal Island project but I have to say they just don't really fit into the environment with all the communist blocks. Well, maybe the Russian government will decide to demolish all of them in order to build more skyscrapers or other modern architecture - which wouldn't surprise me when it comes to policy/politics... :-(
Well, as politics isn't the subject here, I wish the best of luck for the construction of all these beautiful buildings anyway.

it has nothing to do with winter period.

I really love this tower as well as the Crystal Island project but I have to say they just don't really fit into the environment with all the communist blocks.Do you really think modern architectors should build new skyscrapers having in mind all these communist blocks, that will be demolished before 2025?

I really love this tower as well as the Crystal Island project but I have to say they just don't really fit into the environment with all the communist blocks.

So where should be skyscrapers built if not between older buildings? On a green meadow? Would they fit there better?

Do you really think modern architectors should build new skyscrapers having in mind all these communist blocks, that will be demolished before 2025?

Yes, how about a master plan for areas they plan to build skyscrapers like this one.

So where should be skyscrapers built if not between older buildings? On a green meadow? Would they fit there better?

Actually I'd prefer building skyscrapers whether in areas which aren't developed yet (like in Dubai for example) or simply don't start construction until the environment/surrounding area is cleared, which means somehow you have to be radical and demolish buildings which don't fit there.
Of course this is always a political discussion, I also think about the "poor" people who have to move but I know the politicians don't really care about them, especially in countries like Russia or China.
So, either do it right and develop a whole area or just don't build at all. What's the point with a glamorous billion dollar skyscraper in the middle of nowhere or in a living area for the working-class, wasteland or whatsoever. See the point?
So I can only hope that in twenty years or something the surrounding areas will look as great as the skyscrapers that will be there!
Right now it seems like money isn't an issue (in Russia/Moscow) or the other way round, it's all about the money, not about the people!

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2561/CIMG2561-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2563/CIMG2563-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2564/CIMG2564-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2565/CIMG2565-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2566/CIMG2566-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2568/CIMG2568-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2574/CIMG2574-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2575/CIMG2575-webbig.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2562/CIMG2562-webbig.jpg

What's beeing done?

Whoa. Looks like they started digging for the slurry wall. Am I mistaken?

What's beeing done?
Look at the map on the last pic - seems like it's a path for vehicles.

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/9/CIMG2564/CIMG2564-webbig.jpg

Thats the ghettoest rebar safty cap i have ever seen.

Whoa. Looks like they started digging for the slurry wall. Am I mistaken?

doesn't look like slurry wall

doesn't look like slurry wall

Preparing the guide wall for the slurry digger ?

Preparing the guide wall for the slurry digger ?Yep, that's what I meant...

snow is gone :) yayayayaya

Hmmmm Still little progress but at least the site will be good to build on when the construction starts!!

Come on Russia! Lets rise and shine!!! :)

Cheers :cheers:

Technical documentation is expected to be sent for approvement in April.

Also, one more CTBUH article about Russia Tower.
http://www.ctbuh.org/Portals/0/TechPapers/Dubai/T15_Halvorson.pdf

30.03.2008

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/12412-1/_MG_1500.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/12414-1/_MG_1502.jpg

Photo by MakZer:

http://photofile.ru/photo/makzer/3508420/xlarge/76391355.jpg

^^ great picture well positioned

wow, you can see the floor-plan.....the triangular base

Originaly posted by windstride:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3898/56xz0.png

wow, this is the slowest construction in the world. at least infinity tower has a hole, and freedom tower is way along its way since the design was decided a year ago. This one instead is really taking for ever......

We could baptize it "infinity tower" if that name wasn't given away yet.

It's been only 7 month and you already have a hysteria about it taking too long? Pussies:lol:

It's been only 7 month and you already have a hysteria about it taking too long? Pussies:lol:
They've probably never played Duke Nukem 3D before. ;)

They've probably never played Duke Nukem 3D before. ;)

Will this tower be finished before the release of "Duke Nukem Forever"?
:runaway:

wow, this is the slowest construction in the world. at least infinity tower has a hole, and freedom tower is way along its way since the design was decided a year ago. This one instead is really taking for ever......

works has begun just half a year ago. and it was said at the beginning that the diaphragm wall won't be ready until end of 2008.

Combining the picture from Gamma-Hamster and the plan from windstride:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb119/stefr8/RussiaTowerPrep.jpg

For goodness sake the area in Chernobyl will be safe to inhabit again before this thing gets to the lobby level. By the time this building reaches 2000 ft the Mile High building will be....say...a mile high.

Still this will be an awesome building when completed. Huge and tall, a real spectacle.

Geez I though I'm the only one who is impatient here , there's quite a County here to wait for this tower to raise hehe ,,,

Will this tower be finished before the release of "Duke Nukem Forever"?
:runaway:
Seeing how slow that game has been moving, i would surely think so.

Who knows when the ground will be dug?
(The base of the tower is really wide)

and it was said at the beginning that the diaphragm wall won't be ready until end of 2008.

wat are the other buldings doing there end wat are they going to produce ?

wat are the other buldings doing there end wat are they going to produce ?

say what :doh:

wat are the other buldings doing there end wat are they going to produce ?They are going to "produce" a very tall tower. Seriously, the four barracks at the bottom of MakZer's pic are housings for workers, and the two boxes in the middle are for preparing concrete in a controlled temperature environment (though I may be wrong on this).

They are going to "produce" a very tall tower. Seriously, the four barracks at the bottom of MakZer's pic are housings for workers, and the two boxes in the middle are for preparing concrete in a controlled temperature environment (though I may be wrong on this).

end that will be for the bathtub (slurey wall) end the philes ?

end that will be for the bathtub (slurey wall) end the philes ?

The grand manager will be bathing in the bathtub and I really dunno what are ,,philes" :lol:

The grand manager will be bathing in the bathtub and I really dunno what are ,,philes" :lol:

:wtf::nuts::nuts:

They are going to "produce" a very tall tower. Seriously, the four barracks at the bottom of MakZer's pic are housings for workers, and the two boxes in the middle are for preparing concrete in a controlled temperature environment (though I may be wrong on this).
those barracks are owned by mercury city tower developer.

This tower reminds me very of John Hancock Tower with long cross bracing structural steels inside and the shape.

O RLY?

Russia Tower on the CL banner:

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/ucl/633777_bigportrait.jpg

Official site:
http://www.russianland.com/projects/russiatower.php


render video
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Nice camera flyover, but Frank Sinatra?!

Nice video and best bulding :)

......

большое спасибо :)

Very nice video. Very nice building. Top reminds me of the Tyrell building from Blade Runner.

How does someone get their books down from the middle of that bookshelf in the apartment view (image 6)?

I have question about the roof of this building. So the top floor is at 500m and roof is 610. In the photos is the roof, is there any habitable floor there or is it like the Burj dubai steel section with no habitable floors.

http://www.outnext.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/05/moscowtower05100701.jpg

when i remember right the last useable floor is at 500m ( or was it 510m? )

Nice camera flyover, but Frank Sinatra?!
In Russian section we also wonder why Sinatra…

In Russian section we also wonder why Sinatra…

Because Sinatra sings that song in English , and English is a commercial language , so that was to appeal to world wide clientele , that's not a bad idea at all

I have question about the roof of this building. So the top floor is at 500m and roof is 610. In the photos is the roof, is there any habitable floor there or is it like the Burj dubai steel section with no habitable floors.

answer for the question is from September 27th, 2006, by Culwulla. :D

The roof is 511m and width at base is a whopping 160m!

answer for the question is from September 27th, 2006, by Culwulla. :DI don't know... from some photos I've seen (can't recall where I saw them) it may seem the top three "blades" contain habitable space. The pic posted five posts ago by buildmilehightower, instead, is not so clear in this respect.

19/04/08

http://i032.radikal.ru/0804/f8/949f85104593.jpg

In Russian section we also wonder why Sinatra…
Maybe they thought that the Russian mafia are the only ones who can afford apartments there and they would like the Sinatra association :)

Yes, it's really the wrong style for a 21st Century building

Maybe they thought that the Russian mafia are the only ones who can afford apartments there and they would like the Sinatra association :)

Yes, it's really the wrong style for a 21st Century building

:lol:Don't tell that to the American or they will beat the sh...t out of you :lol:

Very nice video. Im impressed with the luxurious beauty inside the tower.

Maybe they thought that the Russian mafia are the only ones who can afford apartments there and they would like the Sinatra association :)

Yes, it's really the wrong style for a 21st Century building

Your statement is kind of vague... do I understand correctly that a Sinatra song has wrong style to accompany a 21st century building?

AMAZING :drool:

Snow has gone , the weather is nice and pleasant now , have they started digging some thing yet ?

love it. love cranky franky!

Oh well ! who 's better person to ask then Mr Culwulla, an expert on skyscrapers :)

when is this tower going under u/c ?

you asked it at least 6 times in this thread

Russia Tower on the CL banner:

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/ucl/633777_bigportrait.jpg

I have two tickets for the Champions League Final pending if United quality for the final. Follow Follow Follow Because United are going to MOSCOW!!

Also I don't think Russia Tower will be completed by next month. :lol:

you asked it at least 6 times in this thread

yes but still no one rely coms up whit an strait awnser !

love this tower
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4030/41734syr0.jpg

love this tower

Who doesnt? :D

yes but still no one rely coms up whit an strait awnser !

it was answered many times. diaphragm wall won't be ready till the end of 2008 - begin of 2009.

^^ This is a really awesome night render! :bow:
Although, considering a floor height of around 5 meters, Russia Tower might even appear bigger in reality, compared to the mediocre buildings around that are shown here. This could also be a 350-400m condo tower: still great, but not of RT's enormous size!

I like the bracing of the tower - the radial ones on the wings' sides, and also the arrowhead-shaped bracings on the edges, covering 4 floors each. And it's always nice to have a help for counting floors (29 bracings plus 2 = yes, Russia Tower has 118 floors on the render).

Also I don't think Russia Tower will be completed by next month. :lol:

you never know.

Also I don't think Russia Tower will be completed by next month. :lol:

:lol:

19/04/08

http://i032.radikal.ru/0804/f8/949f85104593.jpg

As we can see, the works has begun, huh?

Photo by Kirgam:

http://photofile.ru/photo/kirgam/3544453/large/77036829.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/kirgam/3544453/77036829.jpg

the facades look a bit like the John Hancock Center of Chicago, IMO...

Guys when I first saw the renders I thought immediately this has to be a Foster design. ;)
Man this Architect is a genius. I love the designs from Foster. :cheer::eek2:
As an Architect you have be to some kind of an insane genius :D

And this one is not an exception. Please build this Tower. This wouldn't not only good for Russia but also good for Europe.
I repeat Please build this Tower.

Please build this Tower. This wouldn't not only good for Russia but also good for Europe.
I repeat Please build this Tower.:gossip: Relax. They're building it already.
See all that machinery on the plot?

:gossip: Relax. They're building it already.
See all that machinery on the plot?

Okay Peloso,

I will relax because that are great news.*yahoo*

And after you told me this with the machinery on the plot I realised it, too ;)