Western media tend to depict Russia as a war lover, gunmaker but I've been living in Moscow for almost a decade as an expat and I'll tell the truth:
Russia will not pose any threat to mankind coz She is too large and her population is shrinking. it will be a big challenge in future for her to hold the land she has.

The core reason of killing (war) is unsolvable conficts between human beings, not the weapons. weapons always are there around us (e.g. knife, siscors ...) if the conflict is solved no knife wil be used to kill. If the conflict is not solved people will fight and they will need weapon, so they will make it or buy it. in the latter case somebody else will make it to sell, of course

where the conflicts come from:
major sources are:
lack of respect and toilerrance to each other especially regarding cultural or religious aspects
lack of resources needed for living ( this is growing faster now as the resource demands of China or India getting bigger and bigger, out of supplies )

and so on

The conflicts are endless and the war is unavoidable from time to time

But I believe that the civilization will prevent the wars that will end human existence
Life is actually getting better if we make a compare today to the past times

Let me settle this once and for all (hopefully):
I never said that 'war was a good thing'. Competition is key to advancement.
So far, History has pretty much showed us that no competition had ever been as effective as the will to annihilate your enemy; may it be for right or wrong reasons.
The one possible large-scale exception might just have been the Space Race and therefore, partly at least... the Cold War.

Competition. Not necessarily warfare; but it seems to help quite a bit...
We're only human.

I dont understand how it comes to be that high, but stills nice. Awesome and tall.

Beautiful tower, maybe too ambitious for the status of current economy. Let's hope they find a new investor asap

А я уверен, что ее построят :)
И может не так все плохо...

Новости
08.12.2009
Большую часть своих "долгостроев" MIRAX GROUP сдаст в 2010 году


"Вероятнее всего, ни один из проектов MIRAX GROUP сдать в срок не получится - по всем объектам сроки уже сдвинулись. Но вопреки нашим опасениям и опасениям наших дольщиков, все проекты мы сдадим в достаточно сжатые сроки, рассказал в экспертном совете RealEstate.ru Советник председателя совета директоров корпорации MIRAX GROUP по связям с общественностью Михаил Дворкович.

"На объект "Well House на Ленинском" мы надеемся получить постановление правительства о сдаче в эксплуатацию в конце декабря - начале января. В ЖК Mirax Park осталось немного работы, и это небольшие средства, в основном по отделе и благоустройству – в следующем году он будет точно сдан в эксплуатацию",- сказал он.

"Не останавливалось строительство многофункционального комплекса Mirax Plaza в "Москва-Сити", первые очереди которого будут сданы в будущем году. Сбербанк принял положительное решение о кредитовании достройки "Well House на Дубровке", - отметил М.Дворкович.

По его словам, до конца декабря MIRAX GROUP совместно с "Банком МФК", которого корпорация привлекла в качестве финансового консультанта, определит стратегию реструктуризации долговых обязательств и с ним же выстроим дифференцированную систему дофинансирования строительства объектов.

Он уточнил, что в ряде банков на следующей неделе будет решаться вопрос о предоставлении кредитов под достройку некоторых комплексов девелопера.

"В целом, у нас вполне оптимистический настрой и, думаю, в следующем году большинство "недостроев" мы сдадим", - сказал Дворкович.

В задачи Николая Кошмана входит ведение всех строительных проектов, которые в настоящий момент реализуются корпорацией", - отметил советник.

Что касается назначения Николая Кошмана первым зампредом правления MIRAX GROUP по управлению строительным комплексом, Дворкович сказал, что "все, что касается процесса строительства и работы с подрядчиками, ложится на него. Вопросы же финансирования и реструктуризации кредитных обязательств остаются за председателем совета директоров корпорации Сергеем Полонским. Кроме того, Николай Павлович привел с собой команду из пяти человек. Это суперпрофессионалы в строительной отрасли, некоторые из которых занимались еще строительством БАМа и восстановлением железной дороги в Чеченской республике, и с некоторыми из которых он работал в Госстрое".

При этом, по словам представителя компании, оставаясь на должности главы Ассоциации Строителей России, Кошман будет посвящать определенное количество времени работе в ней. "В результате ему будет еще удобнее работать с подрядными организациями, так они все в основном состоят в АСР", - сказал он.

Что касается сроков наших проектов, которые теперь будет вести Николай Кошман, то, Таким образом, мы надеемся, что сроки сдачи наших проектов сдвинутся не сильно.

Источник http://www.realestate.ru/new.aspx?id=16510

какое отношение миракс имеет к данному проекту?

and in english?

and in english?

take using google translator ^^
uhm.. I guess this news tell us Moscow IBC's Financial Distribution(Project Financing Development)

no this news has nothing to do with this project. it's about mirax projects.

I don't understand nothing!:ohno:

A few days ago the "Russia Tower" project was clearly cancelled, and now it would still be topical?

It's so confusing,I dunno what to beleive anymore...:nuts:

^^ Its not cancelled,just stalled,just waiting for any new developers to take over this project and see the thread title,its still not cancelled...

Cancelled at current design and height.

On hold for the actual project

Yay on hold better than canceled!:banana:

Cancelled at current design and height.

On hold for the actual project

Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.

Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.

All depend on will future investor buy only a land plot, whole project or entire business.

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no need to buld, nothing special

Then it's not the same project anymore, Waterview in Chicago was cancelled, so this one should be too.

well the design as it is is cancelled, but the project "russia tower" is on hold. it will be redesigned and downsized and such when it starts again.

@WiGgLz01

All depend on will future investor buy only a land plot, whole project or entire business.

So how is it finally: cancelled or on hold?

So how is it finally: cancelled or on hold?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=44749052&postcount=1470
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46817007&postcount=1490

1. If someone will buy the plot land only then it will be all new design.
2. If someone will buy the project then will legally take over design and will able to build it.
3. Same if someone will buy Russian Land entire company. They will legally take over the project.


In next few years the plot will be leased to CITY company and will be occupied by parking.

I'm told there's been some recent news on this, so maybe it's time to re-open the thread. :)

i saw that someone replied in this thread and put my rageface on to scream at people bumping old threads and then the surprise a trustful member and mod brings hope for us all. :banana:

however i wonder if they still have chosen the same plot, since i thought the old plot was sold for a few lower res buildings. :cheers:

Awesome, hope this takes a positive turn. Norman Foster has to make his mark on Megatalls. So far he's been unlucky. His designs are unique compared to AS+GG Megatalls.

Finally:pepper:

i saw that someone replied in this thread and put my rageface on to scream at people bumping old threads and then the surprise a trustful member and mod brings hope for us all. :banana:It is seen who was the last to reply the thread before one opens it

PS The Russia Tower as it was planned by Foster will not be built.
PPS In the Russian section we don't have the Russia Tower thread any more. I wonder why this thread exists here.

It is seen who was the last to reply the thread before one opens it

PS The Russia Tower as it was planned by Foster will not be built.
PPS In the Russian section we don't have the Russia Tower thread any more. I wonder why this thread exists here.

Yeah, it should go to the Archives. Whatever new project deserves its own thread.

It is seen who was the last to reply the thread before one opens it

i know but i don't always look who replies :)


PS The Russia Tower as it was planned by Foster will not be built.

yes i figured, it's just too long ago and the plot is long gone. I really liked the design and spot though, i really hope for something similar, especially similar in terms of height :cheers:

The wikipedia page for the building says that:
"In January 2012, the Moscow government extended the construction permit to 31 December 2015, stipulating that the total area of structure be decreased to 350,000 square metres (3,800,000 sq ft), of which approximately 240,000 square metres (2,600,000 sq ft) would be located above ground".

There is a reference for the info that appears reliable, though it is in Russian and the Google Translate that I relied on wouldn't have been worth the paste.

Oh darn
nothing exciting

Moscow, the best skyline in Europe together with London and Paris!

I'm told there's been some recent news on this, so maybe it's time to re-open the thread. :)

Tell me the news already! :gaah:

no news. there were several additional proposals. all rejected.