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Jakob Pedersen October 8th, 2006, 04:02 PM I thought I would start a thread about stadium developments in Denmark. There are a lot of stadium projects in Norway and Sweden but actually also a few in Denmark. I will not use the sports arenas forum because the majority of the visitors there will most definitely not appreciate the projects as they are way too small in their opinion.
I will start by presenting projects from two clubs from the bottom of the Danish premier league. Both clubs have realised that in order to achieve their goals of remaining in the best league of Danish football, they need decent facilities. Both stadiums will have a capacity of 10.000, which is also the minimum according to the Danish Football Association (DBU). A nice round figure which is plenty for most football games in Denmark. Both stadiums will constitute enormous improvements over existing facilities.
Vejle Boldklub.
Introduction
- Vejle Boldklub (VB) was founded in 1891 – initially as a cricket club only – but in 1902 football was added. The club has won the national championship 1958, 1971, 1972, 1978, 1984; cup winners in 1958, 1959, 1972, 1975, 1977, 1981; played in the European competitions 1971, 1972, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1990, 1998. From 1990 up to today, VB has been in and out of the Super league (Superligaen) three times.
From the above, it is safe to say that the club’s days of glory were back in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
- Famous players started in VB: Allan Simonsen, Thomas Gravesen
- VB today: Last season, VB won the 1. division and moved up to the Super League where they so far have played 11 games resulting in two draws, nine defeats and a current 12’th place out of 12!
- The attendance to the home matches this season has been between 6.759 and 2.648 with 5.070 in average.
Although they are struggling at the moment, the club still has ambitions. Therefore they have started building a new stadium just west of their existing stadium in Nørreskoven, Vejle.
Existing stadium (capacity 15.000 / 1.322 seats): http://www.stadionwelt.de/vejle (http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=stadionlisten&stadion=Vejle%20Stadion&foto_ordner=Dänemark/vejle_stadion&id=987)
The project:
Architects: Årstiderne Arkitekter
Client: Fonden Vejle Stadium
Description: The stadium is built up by four rectangular stand units. The main building, which is placed as a lengthy building body in connection with the northern tribune appears as a three-storey building. The 117 meter long building varies between 8-10 meters in depth. On ground floor the concrete has been recessed to break the large surface. The two large grey-black facades are dominated by 2 horizontal window bands. In the transition between the narrow and the deep building body, a vertical window band has been made, which from the outside appears as dull and clear glass by turns. The main entrance is marked both by a forwarded glass building and by a large screen consisting of an electroplate grating system. The glass building, which makes up the next layer, is a small triple high room and a part of the foyer. From here you have the view of the other storeys and the two large staircases, which further inside the building connect the three storeys.
Facts: Four rectangular stands with room for 10.000 seats. 3200 square meters main building with locker rooms, lounge, restaurant and fitness centre in connection with north stand.
Status: Digging has just started.
My opinion: Your standard 10.000 seater (a bit boring perhaps).
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/1_VB.jpg
Main building seen from north east.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/2_VB.jpg
Main building close up.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/3_VB.jpg
Bird’s eye view from south east. The two corners in connection with the south stand will be closed with glass. The two corners in connection with the north stand might be closed with ‘towers’ at a later stage.
AC Horsens
Introduction
- AC Horsens (Alliance Club Horsens) was founded in 1994 as a club in the 1. divison and therefore does not have the history of VB. In 2004/2005 they moved up to the Super League and are currently placed as number 9 out of 12.
- The attendance to the home matches this season has been between 5.149 and 2.774 with 3.433 in average.
- Famous players started in AC Horsens: None (so far)!
The planned stadium will be an almost complete rebuilding of the current stadium. Only a part of the existing west stand from 2001 will be reused to form the new end stand. The new east stand will be mobile to allow room for a music stage (Horsens arranges a lot of concerts).
Existing stadium (capacity 7.000 / 2.200 seats): http://www.stadionwelt.de/horsens (http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=stadionlisten&stadion=Horsens%20Idrætspark&foto_ordner=Dänemark/horsens_idraetspark&id=988)
The project
Architects: 3xNielsen, Aarhus
Client: Municipality of Horsens
Description: The new stadium will be almost quadratic in shape. A light screen of glass will give the stadium a friendly, transparent ‘face’ towards the surroundings. The glass can help describe the event outwardly – the screen can be backlit in AC Horsens’ colours or showing slides from Madonna’s latest video etc. The screen together with the roof will encircle the stadium and create an intimate atmosphere. The glass screen is raised a couple of storeys from the ground – the screen is hanging like a skirt from the upper parts of the stands, giving the building a light and floating appearance. The flood lights will be an integrated part of the building.
Facts: 10.000 seats, 6500 square meters.
Status: Final decision in very near future.
My opinion: I quite like its originality (no other stadium in Denmark looks like it). I hope the result will come out as nice as the drawings.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/4_AC.jpg
The new stadium seen from south west (Langemarksvej)
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/5_AC.jpg
View from south east towards the mobile stand with Langemarksvej on your left.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/6_AC.jpg
View from south stand.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/7_AC.jpg
Bird’s eye view from south; Forum Horsens Arena can be seen behind the stadium.
Opinions?
Regards
Jakob
DenverDane October 8th, 2006, 04:57 PM Horsens' new stadium looks pretty nifty, can't say the same about Vejle's.
Jakob Pedersen October 8th, 2006, 05:24 PM ...can't say the same about Vejle's.
No, it does look a bit ’basic’ doesn’t it?
Last year, the building owner invited tenders for the project but the bids were up to twice as expensive as expected. As a result, they examined the project once more and finally a contract was signed for the current design. I guess some of the nicer features were lost in that process (corner stands between east/south- west/south stands for example). If they manage to close the corners with glass screens it might be OK after all. Still it's an improvement over the current stadium.
cphdude October 8th, 2006, 06:11 PM No doubt that AC Horsens' stadium is the beauty among the two, but as stadiums goes, the first one also works.
But you can really tell what you pay for when you hire one of the leading Danish architect firms with many international projects, as aposed to a small local (really local, jylland mostly) firm. Not that there is anything wrong with that, and when the game starts one can be as good as the other. But lets face it, we are all here because we have a passion for great architecture...This just shows you that there are many ways to form a box.
I also wanna say that since the second one is a city project, and the other one is a fond, how odly it may sounds, the city probably has a lot more to spend on this, and a lot more prestige riding on it...
A few other project in football Denmark at the moment...
As you know the project in parken continues to be delayed and couse much headage. Apparently the politicians want PS&E to pay many millions for the building rights, and PS&E does not want that. The result could mean that PARKEn will have to reduce its audience capacity in the future, if the city gets its way.
Esbjerg: some guy over at fodboldsnak,dk claimed that esbjerg was in the proces of selling the cities IT company for 265 million and that part of that was going towards finishing the cities stadium to make it a modern 16.000 seat stadium in a few years.
Jakob Pedersen October 8th, 2006, 10:32 PM Well, Esbjerg Stadium sure is in need of some development. The new stand from 2001 is absolutely superb and its architects, Friis & Moltke, also made drawings of the finished stadium. The old stand could probably be refurbished to match the architecture of the rest of the stadium.
Whether the money you mention will be used for the stadium or not, I cannot say. I have heard the mayor is keen on finishing the project, but there are most definitely people with different opinions in the city council.
In fact that is one of the major problems for the Danish football clubs; most of them do not own their own stadiums. They have to rely on the politicians to do something. However, it is difficult for the politicians to defend spending money on elite sports when, at the same time, they are cutting back on institutions, schools etc.
http://habana.homepage.dk/esbjerg.jpg
The finished Esbjerg Stadium
I really like the curved design – not one straight line. Also the quality of the materials seems high.
http://habana.homepage.dk/esbjerg4.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/esbjerg5.jpg
cphdude October 9th, 2006, 06:07 AM Yeah, I saw that picture too, but for some reason I couldnt post it. Well, Im glad to see that it seams to be for real. I hope they do it, perhaps with some private means. But as you say, it is sometimes a problem defending costs like this, for a city. Especially when there is a use for it elswhere and when the project is this big and extravagant...
PS&E (FCK) also did not own their stadium at frst, but got it really, really cheap, and with a garantied balance because of the national matches... So I imagen that it will be very hard for any club or city to justify this spending. Even if many of them have started understanding the use of the stadium for other porpuces...
Hviid October 9th, 2006, 07:42 AM Horsens is defidentally the favorite of the bunch IMO... but the others work aswell, like cphdude mentioned.. :)
ØlandDK October 9th, 2006, 05:23 PM The Horsens stadion looks really nice...
The Vejle stadion looks a bit booring in my opinion
And the Esbjerg stadion looks perfect! - Let's hope they are going to build it.
cphdude October 17th, 2006, 08:35 PM Ole Olsen, the old Speedway hero, wants to build a multiarena/stadium in Kolding with 35.000 seats for soccer, icehocker, speedway, events and concerts.
The project is named Superdome and will be build 8 meters into the ground and 43 meters above with a seethrough roof...
The estimated price is 400 million DKR. A localplan could be ready as early as 1. December, and the construction periode is 18 months. No word on how far they are with the financing...The project is designed by CF møller...
http://avisen.dk/kolding-faar-multiarena-171006.aspx
http://www.cfmoller.com/proj_vis_print.asp?s=1&projID=2162&kat=15
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=7985&h=247&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=7990&h=385&w=750
Jakob Pedersen October 17th, 2006, 08:42 PM ...According to Danish media today, the Superdome project in Kolding, worth DKK 400 million is close to realisation. (www.dr.dk (http://www.dr.dk/Regioner/Kanal94/Nyheder/Sport/2006/10/17/134659.htm))
The dome will have some 22.000 seats, but will hold 35.000 for concerts.
Architect: C.F. Møller (new Bislett Stadium, Oslo; New Randers Stadium)
Architect’s description:
SUPERDOME
Proposal for the multifunctional entertainment complex - SuperDome in Kolding, Denmark. SuperDome is to become the top venue and ideal destination for (extreme) sports, entertainment and special events in Scandinavia. A building with a strong and clear expression - a filigree structure of steel and transparent, teflon coated glass.
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd01.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd02.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd03.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd04.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd05.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd06.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd07.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd08.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd09.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd10.jpg
http://habana.homepage.dk/sd/sd11.jpg
graphics cfmoller.com (http://www.cfmoller.com/)
Jakob Pedersen October 17th, 2006, 08:43 PM you beat me by 7 minutes :applause:
cphdude October 17th, 2006, 10:11 PM ^^they dont call me "Fast Eddie" for nothing...
Good news. Now if they can oly buld that damn multiarena in copenhagen...
Rausa October 18th, 2006, 01:24 PM Nice to see these projects! Horsens new stadium looks good, the other one's too..
Any news on the new Coca-cola stand in parken? When will they start build it?
cphdude October 18th, 2006, 01:34 PM Nice to see these projects! Horsens new stadium looks good, the other one's too..
Any news on the new Coca-cola stand in parken? When will they start build it?
No, they are still negotiating. Apparently the city wants more money then it is worth, so now they are pretty much at a standstill. They just pulled their aplication for the UEFA cup final in 2009, fearing that they might not be ready, despite the fact that the construction time is estimated at 13-16 months...So I guess they are not expecting a solution anytime soon...
DenverDane October 18th, 2006, 04:14 PM And though it's not a soccer stadium, but still... The Andersen Arena might never see the light of day:
http://www.bt.dk/sport/dkfodbold/artikel:aid=475846/
cphdude October 18th, 2006, 06:37 PM ^^thank good....now move goddamnit bella center....now...
cphdude October 28th, 2006, 12:22 PM Apparently the plans to build a new National stadium on Amager is still in place. Acording to Amager United's CEO an investor group has raised 500 million dkr to build a 50.000 seat stadium at the place currently occupied by Tårnby Stadion. Everyone, including DBU seams to think that it is the perfect place, right next to both train and the moterway and not that far from the metro. So far Tårnby city however, wont sell the stadion, mostly because they are already using it. However a possible planed mass merger between several clubs on Amager, might free up the space.
So far the plans, which will also include apartments for students and seniors aswell as indoor sports facileties like gymnastic, are still on, and the group also looking at other possible spaces, perhaps sundby idrætspark, but they are still hoping for Tårnby.
The project, that was set to be build in 2 stages, would also include an underground parkingceller...
Sounds like a great plan, but I think If anyone is interested in spending 500 million kr at sportingfacileties, we need a multiarena more than a national stadium at the moment.
ØlandDK October 28th, 2006, 02:46 PM ^^
Witch club should play in that stadium?
Morten M October 28th, 2006, 04:05 PM Apparently the plans to build a new National stadium on Amager is still in place. Acording to Amager United's CEO an investor group has raised 500 million dkr to build a 50.000 seat stadium at the place currently occupied by Tårnby Stadion. Everyone, including DBU seams to think that it is the perfect place, right next to both train and the moterway and not that far from the metro. So far Tårnby city however, wont sell the stadion, mostly because they are already using it. However a possible planed mass merger between several clubs on Amager, might free up the space.
So far the plans, which will also include apartments for students and seniors aswell as indoor sports facileties like gymnastic, are still on, and the group also looking at other possible spaces, perhaps sundby idrætspark, but they are still hoping for Tårnby.
The project, that was set to be build in 2 stages, would also include an underground parkingceller...
Sounds like a great plan, but I think If anyone is interested in spending 500 million kr at sportingfacileties, we need a multiarena more than a national stadium at the moment.
The CEO of Amager United is a guy called Jan Amtrup and he is a complete idiot, And nobody wanna give this guy 500 millions. He used to ve CEO of a company called SAKAMOTO, a company owned by Brøndby IF but was sacked. This stadium is what we in danish call a "luftkastel" it will never be build.
cphdude October 28th, 2006, 05:18 PM The CEO of Amager United is a guy called Jan Amtrup and he is a complete idiot, And nobody wanna give this guy 500 millions. He used to ve CEO of a company called SAKAMOTO, a company owned by Brøndby IF but was sacked. This stadium is what we in danish call a "luftkastel" it will never be build.
Actually as he has mentioned, he is not behind it. It is not his money, nor is he involved with the project in any way. The reason he is involved is because Tårnby stadium is where Amager United plays.
I am well aware of the reputation this man has, though noone seams to be able to explain why he has such a bad reputation...
So if there are really investors behind it, and we of couse never know if there are in these cases e.g. brøndby's multiarena, I really dont care who he is. Capital trumps idiots everytime, and if someone wants to build, they will. At the moment they need him I imagen, because he is importent for the merger to go ahead. They need this to create the space...
He may be a big talker, but so was Kurt Thorsen and he still managed to build a few thousind apartments...
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens, but I kinda like the idea...
Jakob Pedersen October 29th, 2006, 02:32 PM It seems that people in Aarhus also wants a 35.000 seater multi arena!
http://www.jp.dk/aar/artikel:aid=4047880/
cphdude October 29th, 2006, 03:54 PM ^^
Witch club should play in that stadium?
Hmm...I dont actually know, but I guess it might be used by a new joint amager team, or simply be used as a national stadium. I seam to remember the Olympic report saying that a national stadium could work, even with no clubs playing there. (I asume thay also then included concerts and things like that)
It seems that people in Aarhus also wants a 35.000 seater multi arena!
http://www.jp.dk/aar/artikel:aid=4047880/
There is only about 80-100 km. between Aarhus and Kolding isnt there? Seams like a bad idea, again unless they are just talking about a stadium...I must say that neither this plan nor the kolding one makes sence to me, and acpecially this one sounds like just politicians talking....
cphdude November 3rd, 2006, 02:08 PM It seems that people in Aarhus also wants a 35.000 seater multi arena!
http://www.jp.dk/aar/artikel:aid=4047880/
I understand now that Horsens also wants to build one, or turn the stadium into a 35.000 seat multiarena. This is apparently acording to Børsen yesterday
cphdude November 5th, 2006, 02:06 PM ^^After reading it is probably the project already mentioned on the first page, but it sounds different then the one I read about...And it also had a roof...
Sabunjar November 8th, 2006, 06:02 AM Wow, that is a really interesting design for a stadium, I like it.
http://habana.homepage.dk/ACVB/6_AC.jpg
Does anyone have an idea what the projected cost will be ?
cphdude November 8th, 2006, 02:35 PM ^^If it is the same project as Børsen wrote about, then 100 million dkr. (15 million euros or so)
ØlandDK November 10th, 2006, 10:19 AM Looks like Parken Sport and Entertainment is going to build a Arena just next to Parken:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/dansk_fodbold/article242487.ece
...sounds really nice to me...but stil it's only a small arena...
cphdude November 10th, 2006, 07:56 PM ^^yeah, it is the small arena that has been planed for a while...
Jakob Pedersen November 12th, 2006, 05:32 PM Don’t know if you guys have seen this: http://www.geertsen.kk.dk/upload/geertsen/pdf/10x10ny.pdf
It is Martin Geertsen’s (Mayor of the Culture and Leisure Administration in Copenhagen) plan for investments in sports facilities in Copenhagen over the next ten years:
2006: Multi-arena I; 4-5.000 seater; Østerbro (Parken); DKK 150 mio.
2007: Multi-arena II; 15-20.000 seater; Ørestad (Bella Center); DKK 600 mio.
2008: International athletics stadium; Modernization of Østerbro Stadium (DKK 50-100 mio.) or new stadium in Ørestad (DKK 3-500 mio.) .
2009: Mobile rowing stadium; Copenhagen Harbour; DKK 0.5 mio.
2010: Copenhagen as streetmekka (BMX/skater/roller-arena); Amager; DKK 50-100 mio.
2011: International football stadium; Ørestad or Valby; DKK 300 mio.
2012: Artificial river for white water rafting; Amager DKK 30-60 mio.
2013: International tennis stadium; no suggestion for location; DKK 2-300 mio.
2014: Multi-arena III; Valby; DKK 2-500 mio.
2015: International swimming stadium; Amager; DKK 2-300 mio.
Quite ambitious IMO, but before they start building, I think they have to consider if they want to go for the Olympics and then build in the necessary scale/quality.
cphdude November 12th, 2006, 05:52 PM ^^I have seen it before and it sounds good. The prices however are IMO to low. To imagen that you can get a great football stadium for 300 million dkr or an international size athletics stadium for the same is quite insane. As is building the both of them probably...But it sounds great. For now however, I would be pleased if we got the big multiarena (18-20.000) though again i doubt 600 million is enough unless it is build really cheap, and if Parkens small arena would have 5000 seats...That would solve many problems and insted of dreaming about hosting big thing, we could actually start doing it, to se if it can work and we will be good at it....
But I think the list is great, and I hope, since he is now not going to be an MP, that he is spending all of his time convincing big businesses and fonds to invest in this...
Zanetti October 14th, 2007, 03:00 AM Here is informations and galleries from the new "Vejle Stadium":
Here is the photodiary:
http://www.romshule.dk/diverse/stadion/stadionfinal.htm
The status right now:
http://www.romshule.dk/diverse/stadion/stadion.htm
The official website for "Vejle Stadium":
http://www.vejle-stadion.dk/
http://www.vejle-stadion.dk/uploads/pics/Bane-naesten.jpg
http://www.vejle-stadion.dk/uploads/pics/Tri-Nord-2sal.jpg
http://www.vejle-stadion.dk/uploads/pics/Tri-nord-gitter.jpg
All three pictures is taking from www.vejle-stadion.dk
Xed August 26th, 2009, 02:53 PM Blue Water Arena in Esbjerg is practically finished. There is plenty of pictures of the entire construction face here:
http://bluewaterarena.blogspot.com/
From the air: http://photo.vixdata.com/data/media/photo/medium/123/123feba0-f283-422f-a3c3-221e21c99922.jpg
Strangely, I have not been able to find any photos of or information on the final result. But the stadium supposedly should hold a capacity of totally 17.400 (11.451 seats), it has 17 sky boxes, and a lounge capacity of 1.500. I don't know if they can add seats for international matches, like they can in Aalborg and Brøndby, in order to maximize the capacity.
Fender56 August 28th, 2009, 09:23 AM Blue Water Arena in Esbjerg is practically finished. There is plenty of pictures of the entire construction face here:
http://bluewaterarena.blogspot.com/
From the air: http://photo.vixdata.com/data/media/photo/medium/123/123feba0-f283-422f-a3c3-221e21c99922.jpg
Strangely, I have not been able to find any photos of or information on the final result. But the stadium supposedly should hold a capacity of totally 17.400 (11.451 seats), it has 17 sky boxes, and a lounge capacity of 1.500. I don't know if they can add seats for international matches, like they can in Aalborg and Brøndby, in order to maximize the capacity.
A couple of links.:
https://intranet.davidsenpartnere.dk/efbsite/
http://www.friis-moltke.dk/siteFM/newsdetail.asp?x=&detail=12593
http://www.graphicvision.dk/foto/galleriprevs/bwa/index.html
:cheers:
Nordmannen August 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM Is it necessary to wake up this thread? People are complaining that nothing is happening in N & B Stadium and Arena Thread, so I doubt we will need to threads concerning overlapping topics
ØlandDK August 28th, 2009, 03:33 PM ^^
Guess "Xed" didn't know the other thread excisted - but I agree with you.
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