I believe that site is the by far the best prime location in DT Tampa, and you just have to think someone would come in there with a bigger condo, or a highrise office building..

I also can see the site next to channel 8 on Kennedy Blvd also with a 650' or 700' on that site..

So in the end we might just have 2 really nice buildings flanking each other 1 on each side of the Hillsborough River.. alla Jacksonville..

Comments..

Your right that Trump is a prime location, and something will get built there. The lot next to Channel 8 is locked up with Hillsborough River tower which will probaly never get built. Until the developer lets go of it nothing will be on that lot. I think one of the two lots could be a prime spot for art or childrens museum, or its always been my fantasy to have a sports museum downtown.

I say build this
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3623749

:)

But seriously. If Trump doesn't get off the ground, then I hope by a month we will have another toer planned on that spot. I never really liked the tower anyways. But I wish to see something with more life and spunk and taller aswell. We can't let it just be dull when Trump gives up. And a smart thing to do for the developers and all, start getting your plans and drawings now, because this project does not have anough fuel to last.

I thought the Trump project was already under construction. What's the hold up?

In any case, wasn't Trump Tower limited to 591' ? If so, I don't see how anything taller could be built there. I can certainly see a better-looking tower being built there.

Well then we will have an empty lot most likely for a bit because the demand for hi-rise condos is down but hopefully we will get a nicer tower eventually. Better yet they can borrow the design for the Bayway Lofts in DT St.Pete(old one) and build it to 591'

I think that Tampa could see a pick up in the downtown office market, because of all of the residential in the immediate area. Just a though, but it could happen.

In any case, wasn't Trump Tower limited to 591' ? If so, I don't see how anything taller could be built there. I can certainly see a better-looking tower being built there.

Like Dale stated here, I also don't see anything going up over 600' on that site :nono:. Btw, what is the maximum height for towers in that area anyway?? Because we all know that the FAA has this city on lock-down when it comes to tall proposals!!!

The original Trump Tower proposal was taller (by 13 ft. if I remember correctly) and yes, the FAA argued that it was too tall, so they had to reduce the height.

Personally, I thought Trump tower was very attractive and I thought it would be a nice addition to our skyline.

At this point, it doesn't seem likely that it will be built. That's too bad. :(

And if this is the case, I suspect that it will be quite some time before another tower (or any project) will be proposed for that site.

What is this "The lot next to WFLA is locked up with Hillsborough River Tower?"

The Hillsborough River Tower project should be labeled as DEAD though the Downtown Partnership website still has it up. The first prosposal for the tower came in 10 YEARS ago.

I'm not suggesting they ought to build another condo tower project there, but that is a more prime-location than Trump and I'd also say that it's a very much open location. A 10 year dead project does not lock up the land.

my new office overlooks the trump site and over the last several weeks there have been no more than 3-4 people on it at one time. usually just the same crew core drilling day after day which they seemed to have stopped as well. today i see one person on site. i would post a picture but for some reason i do not have permissions to attach images.

What is this "The lot next to WFLA is locked up with Hillsborough River Tower?"

The Hillsborough River Tower project should be labeled as DEAD though the Downtown Partnership website still has it up. The first prosposal for the tower came in 10 YEARS ago.

I'm not suggesting they ought to build another condo tower project there, but that is a more prime-location than Trump and I'd also say that it's a very much open location. A 10 year dead project does not lock up the land.

Have we had any confirmation that HRT is dead? I haven't seen any. And since the partnership still has its website it may not be dead. Although I do agree it'll never get built. Anyway I do hope these lots turn into something productive....

What's the main problem with the Trump bldg.? Does it lie with the developer?

As for HRT, I said it a while back, that is a must bldg. for Tampa; it's clone being in Chicago, it is a very serious bldg.

Pinnacle Tower isn't officially "Dead" either, but no way in hell it gets built.

It's dead. M.I.A. at best.

As for the Trump site -- that should be another park. The engineers are having a tough time and you've already heard about underground anomolies. That's reason enough to NOT build on it.

We also all know there is a scant amount of parkland downtown (though the argument is usually for parks in the channelside area). With an influx of residents, it wouldn't hurt to have more greenspace.

Building just for the sake of building doesn't make a project worthwhile. Trump tower's placement was argued on the TTT thread in the past (along with it's design).

Hillsborough River Tower is mostly dead. It's still partially alive. There's a difference between mostly dead and all dead... (Princess Bride, I know)

That being said, the owners may claim they've got a development project in the works, but I guarantee you that as businesspeople they'll sell to a halfway decent cash offer. Either that, or their property venture will bankrupt, and the bankruptcy trustee will sell off the land as one of their prime assets.

As evidence that the company "Hillsborough River Realty" will sell the property - their total property on that site (both sides of that road) is in excess of $3 million in market value, and they're paying over $12K in taxes a year for it to sit there.

http://www.hcpafl.org/perl/re2html.pl?strap=182924508000017000100A%20%20%20&c0=1&c1=1&c2=1&c3=1&c4=1&c5=1&c6=1

That's why I keep just saying dead (and good movie quote, btw :) ) -- the land has more value if it's sold off than if they wait for construction.

I mean, Smiley has posted in the past that HRT isn't even that great a layout and design. It's a sprawlish skyscraper with seperate parking garage, etc. They keep floating the HRT design around but no one in their right mind invests in a non-built project that's 10 years old with no major design changes that are known in those ten years.

I hope an office tower does get built on that prime location site -- just not HRT. It's goign to be a long while until that happens (if it happens) though. Everyone wants to have offices in Westshore while facancies are in the teens (percentage wise) downtown.

I think the site for Trump would be a good location for an office tower. Since much of the towers in the area are for Business and offices, I beieve one more office tower wouldn't kill.

Channelside-Condos/Hotels
CBD-Offices/Businesses
Bayshore-Lofts/Townhomes

Look for actvity at TTT to increase significantly in November!

Look for actvity at TTT to increase significantly in November!
Why's that? Is it Trump's B-day in November?

nope - Trump's birthday is in June...this project is far from dead as you will see next month...stay tuned!

Why so much negativity with the Trump project? They found abnormalities in the soil and have to do more work. So what??? This happens sometimes and takes time to correct. It's not like they found some ancient burial ground (i.e. Miami Circle) and the project has to be downsized or cancelled altogether. If we truly love buildings as most of us do, then we should continue to support until we hear an official announcement in either direction.
The developers really do not need outside financing until they are ready to go vertical. Could be a good strategy to wait it out until they actually need the money as this construction loan could have been made months ago only to sit while they figure out what to do with the foundation. I'm sure the people who paid deposits and not terribly happy about the delays but I can assure you THEY want a secure and sturdy building versus one that is rushed.
Give the project a chance...

Its because the trump tower isnt that great of a design its just a cookie cutter design. See most people just like it because its a major tower to go up in DT Tampa and the new tallest.

Well, I guess I'm the only one not in that camp. ;) It's a condo tower; and as condo towers go, I think it looks nice.

http://www.trumptowertampa.com/images/gallery/model/model_2.jpg

Gawd, I love this building. I really hope it gets built.

I personally am not a fan of the design and I hate pink skyscrapers. They just are not very dignified IMO. But, with the soil issues, I think this is just delayed and not dead. Have patience.

Is the paint on the building going to be pink? The last thing we need in DT is a pink building, I do not want to look out of my window to DT and see the top of a building that looks like a [penis] <---(IMO).

It is an awesome design in my opinion.

I also think by November this thing is going to take off..

It looks more like a orange-peach-and some greens in there..

That is not pink at all..

Is the paint on the building going to be pink? The last thing we need in DT is a pink building, I do not want to look out of my window to DT and see the top of a building that looks like a [penis] <---(IMO).

it's supposed to be beige I think. Maybe off-white. It's hard to tell from the renders.

I've always thought it was beige with emerald green tinted windows.

I've always thought it was beige with emerald green tinted windows.

I thought that was the case, but I am not sure where the pink came from. Maybe when I posted I read it too fast and thought that I saw pink. I could have but I will have to take better notes.:toilet:

Yes the building is a tropical beige with green windows. The theme would go with several Channelside projects. Anyway I really, really want this one built. Its pretty important to the area.

I keep reading posts indicating that progress is going to take off in November. What exactly is happening in November?

We're enticing Donald with lots of liquor, a juicy turkey and all the fixin's so that he'll fix this mess. :)

I'd love to know too. :dunno:

November = resumption of construction

November = resumption of construction

Do you know if they got funding in place or something?

I just thought it looked pink. Now that I study it, it does look like some sort of pastel brown or yellow.

Yeah, it does in the rendering (above). It looks totally different in this one (below):

http://www.trumptampa.com/images/gallery/model/model_1.jpg

Yeah, it does in the rendering (above). It looks totally different in this one (below):

http://www.trumptampa.com/images/gallery/model/model_1.jpg
That render makes it look like a slighter light color of the Sykes building

Except not as shitty.

I think the previous picture looks pink because the rendering is at sunset. And I gotta be honest with you, I don't dislike this building at all. No, it isn't "courageous design," but no part of the Tampa political economy is courageous in the least and the fact that someone wants to build a tower here at all continues to amaze and delight me (even if I can't afford anything they're building; at least I got mine before the prices starting rising). They could build a windowless block of concrete for all I care and I'd still be surprised and delighted and on the edge of my seat waiting for the city council to say it's too tall for the neighborhood. And frankly, this building strikes me as pretty nifty, on the whole, apart from the fact that it will be full of rich people. But neighbors are neighbors, I suppose; the rich people can't be much worse than the homeless people who are my neighbors now.

^^I agree 100%. Trump isn't a spectaciular tower but it will help out Tampa as a whole.

All the November stuff:

Unless you can prove things true, it's just hearsay that things will take off in November. Vagueness doesn't get towers built.

I think that we will be lucky for us to even see this building built. Look at Trumps other buildings...they are skyrocketing to completion. Look at Trump in Chicago. It is going floor by floor faster than you can blink an eye.

I think that we will be lucky for us to even see this building built. Look at Trumps other buildings...they are skyrocketing to completion. Look at Trump in Chicago. It is going floor by floor faster than you can blink an eye.
It'll get built, it will just take time for it to do so. My guess is, that Trump Tampa is a side project for Trump. Trump has given more funding to the Chicago one and others because Chicago is larger and well known city. Most likely that will change. Some posts above are saying by November we will se more activity. Although I don't know the credibility of them, they are probably close to when something will happen.

Well look at Trump Tower Tampa thread. Appearantly the news was good.