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DrDan October 11th, 2006, 09:59 AM Eureka tower officially opens
October 11, 2006 - 3:02PM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/eureka-tower-officially-opens/2006/10/11/1160246178273.html
Four years, two months, 92 storeys, 3,680 stairs and 52,000 square metres of windows later - the world's tallest residential tower, Melbourne's Eureka skyscraper, has finally been declared open.
Construction on the blue and gold glass monolith began in August 2002 and boasts many spectacular statistics, not to mention panoramic views of Melbourne 300 metres below.
The building was today officially opened by Victorian Premier Steve Bracks, who unveiled a plaque on the 88th floor, before braving strong gusts of wind for a view from the rooftop.
"Eureka Tower is a building that would stand out in the skyline in places like New York, Tokyo or Shanghai but it is a golden part of our skyline here in Melbourne," Mr Bracks said.
"Eureka Tower is a building Melbourne can be proud of because it's original, it's functional and it's beautiful.
"It seems there isn't a person in Melbourne who doesn't have an opinion on Eureka Tower and all the feedback is positive," he said.
As well as being the world's tallest residential building, Eureka's 13 lifts are also the fastest in the southern hemisphere, taking just 40 seconds to reach the top.
The tower, which dominate's Melbourne's Southbank skyline, has 556 apartments, used 110,000 tonnes of concrete and weighs 200,000 tonnes.
To date, 900 residents have moved in - the first of whom, Stuart Bransbury, moved into his 19th floor one-bedroom apartment in December 2004 having bought it off the plan for $420,000.
Mr Bransbury said today his brief stint as the building's sole tenant was weird.
"It was a little bit surreal. It was pretty empty, so I didn't really notice, and I could turn the music up as loud as I liked, but I wouldn't be able to tell you when the next people moved in because it's such a massive complex.
And speaking of surreal experiences, he'd also seen two base jumpers float past his window since moving into his new pad.
Mr Bransbury said he would love to move up the building's property ladder, but he'd have to win Lotto before getting the key to the penthouse.
"It would be fantastic to live up in the top penthouse - but I'll have to start playing Tattslotto a little but more," he said.
Daniel Grollo, chief executive of Eureka developer, Grocon, said the project's completion brought an "immense feeling of satisfaction for the thousands of people who worked on creating such a trophy building".
"We always thought that we were going to do something special. This has really added an extra dimension to Melbourne's skyline," he said.
Eureka! October 11th, 2006, 10:52 AM If only it said when the observation deck opens!
AltiusAltiusAltius October 11th, 2006, 11:32 AM :banana2: :rock: :cucumber: :scouserd:
When will the observation deck open??
CULWULLA October 11th, 2006, 11:39 AM december?
http://www.eurekaobservationdeck.com.au/
level 89 function room opens early 2007.
http://www.eurekafunctions.com.au/
Grollo October 11th, 2006, 11:47 AM http://www.eurekafunctions.com.au/images/functions3.jpg
http://www.eurekafunctions.com.au/images/Eureka%2089%20c.jpg
Grollo October 11th, 2006, 11:48 AM Damn! you beat me to it Cul hehehe
Situated on the top floor of the tallest residential building in the Southern Hemisphere, Level 89 of Eureka is set to be Melbourne’s most spectacular boutique event space.
The iconic Eureka Tower designed by Fender Katsalidis, with Maddison Architects creating a luxurious, sleek and rich interior space with views second to none spanning 360 degrees across Melbourne’s expansive landscape. Catering for breakfasts, lunches, dinners, cocktail parties, weddings, conferences, product launches and media events, Level 89 will execute events of the most superior quality.
An equally stunning bar will open in the south quadrant of the space offering Melbournians and visitors a late night location for drinking, eating and immersing in the floor to ceiling views 300 metres above ground! (285.5 metres actually)
The space is due to be open early 2007.
CULWULLA October 11th, 2006, 12:09 PM ^you guys going to have beers up there when it opens? 50m higher then Rialtos lounge. should be c00l
Andrewwise October 11th, 2006, 12:34 PM I'm guessing that would make it the highest bar in the southern hemisphere.
I think the highest in the Northern hemisphere is somewhere in Amsterdam.
Baadutz Heyooooooooo!
CULWULLA October 11th, 2006, 12:51 PM Burj Dubais current height is lev77/285m which is same as eurekas lev89 function room.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7906/bd100606szalontaifamilyli9.jpg
Andrewwise October 11th, 2006, 02:50 PM I was watching the late channel 7 news in QLD and they mentioned the World's Tallest Resi Building opening in melbourne.
Looks like they don't count Q1's stick either.
AltinD October 11th, 2006, 03:24 PM I'm guessing that would make it the highest bar in the southern hemisphere.
I think the highest in the Northern hemisphere is somewhere in Amsterdam.
Baadutz Heyooooooooo!
I guess your right, since you don't have any skyscraper challenger in the Southern hemisphere.
As for the North, I guess Jin Mao tower in Shanghai might have the tallest bar, since the top of the tower is occupied by HYATT Hotel and there must be a Bar or Lounge in the premisses. I might be wrong but I don't think Amsterdam have any bar higher then 200 meters.
Vu's Bar on the 52nd (top) floor of Jumeriah Emirates Towers in Dubai is some 250 -260 meters above ground.
Bullswool October 12th, 2006, 03:12 AM Is Eureka a mixed use tower? Or is it all residential? I gather its mixed use if there is only 556 apartments? Or are they big and roomy apartments?
Icanseeformiles October 12th, 2006, 04:01 AM It's all residential!
The seven news item was pretty cool and had some great views. In relation to the short discussion we had in the milano tread about trees on the roof...yes yesterday there was a tree on top of eureka at last.
Bullswool October 12th, 2006, 04:19 AM Wow thats a lot of apartments. Saville in Perth are building 3 30 storey apartment buildings with 1000 apartments, why can't they build another Eureka :(
KJBrissy October 12th, 2006, 04:35 AM Yeah it is funny how most people are calling it the World's tallest resi building! But it is good to see it's open finally.
DeejayT October 12th, 2006, 04:43 AM I was watching the late channel 7 news in QLD and they mentioned the World's Tallest Resi Building opening in melbourne.
Looks like they don't count Q1's stick either.
Front page of the G.C. Bulletin today ... this is a laugh. For the record, I agree with Sahba Abedian, I'm proud of both towers too :)
Victoria's tall story
12Oct06
POOR Melbourne just can't get over its shortcomings.
With Indy about to overtake the Australian Formula One Grand Prix for spectator numbers, Melbourne tried it on again yesterday.
The southern capital claimed its new Eureka Tower was the world's tallest residential building despite it falling 22.5m short of our own record-setting Q1.
Daniel Grollo, who developed the $500 million, 300m Eureka Tower at Melbourne's Southbank, has claimed his building is taller because it has 92 storeys compared with Q1's 78.
Eureka was officially opened yesterday by the Victorian Premier, Steve Bracks.
But the boys at Sunland, the developer behind Q1, have had the last laugh.
The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat the independent body that rates heights of global buildings ranks the 322.5m Gold Coast icon not only the world's tallest residential building but the 20th tallest structure in world.
Eureka comes in at a paltry 35th.
Sunland Group managing director Sahba Abedian said the interstate squabbling didn't bother him.
"I'm proud of both towers. They are wonderful in their own right and it is terrific that Australia can lay claim to not one but two of the world's tallest residential towers," he said.
Construction on the blue and gold glass Eureka Tower began in August, 2002.
The building contains 3680 stairs, 52,000 square metres of windows, 556 apartments, 110,000 tonnes of concrete and weighs 200,000 tonnes.
Eureka's 13 lifts are also hailed as the fastest in the southern hemisphere, taking just 40 seconds to hit the top.
To date, 900 residents have moved into the Melbourne tower.
Institute of Architects Gold Coast chairman Glen Jones said yesterday that Q1 was a more modern and sleek building with an eye-catching sculptural look.
"QI has an angelic look, particularly in the night, whereas Eureka is more bold and masculine," he said.
"Q1 is not afraid to be out there on its own.
"On the other hand, Eureka is more a tower among other towers.
"I don't think Q1 would work in Melbourne because it is so unique and distinctive. Eureka has a much more understated feel.
"I think both towers will stand the test of time."
Q1 picked up several gongs at the recent Royal Institute of Architects state awards.
Q1 resident George Friend, who is chairman of the body corporate, said there was no comparison between the two skyscrapers.
"Q1 is a class act," he said. "This is simply tower envy.
"Q1 is quintessentially Gold Coast and what I would say to Melbourne is, there are no prizes for running second.
"We've got it over Melbourne with the weather, so why wouldn't we have it over them on tall buildings?"
Mr Bracks said the Eureka Tower was a building that would stand out in the skyline in places like New York, Tokyo or Shanghai.
"Eureka Tower is a building Melbourne can be proud of because it's original, it's functional and it's beautiful," he said.
"It seems there isn't a person in Melbourne who doesn't have an opinion on Eureka Tower and all the feedback is positive."
Tyson October 12th, 2006, 05:05 AM What a stupid article.
Melburnian_in_sydney October 12th, 2006, 05:38 AM What a stupid article.
Here Here.
Icanseeformiles October 12th, 2006, 06:05 AM Oh god here we go again. Someone post a diagram and let that speak for itself. So we got one tallest to roof and we got one tallest to stick! who gives a shit? Niether record is going to last anyway. Someone tell me what the hell the weather has to do with anything? Didn't the 'Melbourne weather' jibes die out years ago along with the 'nothing to do after 6:00pm' crap? I think that journalist need to get out more...preferably out of Queensland for five minutes. Q1 rocks but regarless of whether the stick takes the record or not it just looks too long/tall and out of proportion.
A "pulty 35th" tallest? I can feel the hurt and emotion welling up inside me...excuse me I think I am about to start sobbing.
CULWULLA October 12th, 2006, 06:06 AM article makes sense.
bottom line-
Q1 is worlds tallest resi to spire tip.
Eureka is worlds tallest resi to roof.
414m Princess Tower in Dubai will reign numero uno in 2009, then we can all get some sleep
Grollo October 12th, 2006, 06:09 AM Who cares? There are much taller residentials going up in Dubai and it won't be long before Melbourne has a tower taller than the Q1 Spire anyways.
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/image/466909.jpg
MelboyPete October 12th, 2006, 06:17 AM My 'cock' is bigger than yours, oh hang on that's right mine comes with a stick on the end and stands out from the crowd.
Icanseeformiles October 12th, 2006, 06:56 AM Yeah! Eureka is big AND THICK!!!...oh dear...I think my post have hit an all time low...sorry.
Let me try to salvage this into something constructive. Do we have a 'thicker' development than anything in qld then we can argue about something else.
"I'm not afraid of heights...i'm afraid of widths" - Steve Wright.
tic October 12th, 2006, 07:15 AM Don't get too uptight about the Gold Coast Bulletin - it is a laughing stock of a newspaper - everyone up here knows that you can't take the front page seriously. I personally really like both towers and they are each entitled to make their claims albeit on different criteria. To those who keep referring to the stick - you really need to see it up close - it's some "stick". Anyway, I think they bothe suit their own skylines. To the person who said that Q1 looks out of place/proportion - you haven't seen it in person. But in any event, C on C Towers, Soul, Holiday Inn (Raptis), Chevron Renaissance Towers, Oracle etc etc, are ensuring that it doesn't look lonely.
Shumway October 12th, 2006, 07:46 AM In Melbourne 120 and 101 Collins street have also enjoyed the status in height that a "stick" gives a building so it's not like Q1 is just masquerading alone among all the other talls in Australia.
Eureka! October 12th, 2006, 08:12 AM The article didn't seem to mention that Eureka is taller to roof.
LA53R October 12th, 2006, 08:21 AM The article is completely bias, i posted another thread just for it to gets people opinions, im from the Gold Coast and im appauled at the way its written. Bunch of wankers....
Besides im sure Melb and the GC with BOTH have towers taller then E and Q1 soon anywhay, not to mention Dubai will kick all our asses...
Grollo October 12th, 2006, 09:35 AM In Melbourne 120 and 101 Collins street have also enjoyed the status in height that a "stick" gives a building so it's not like Q1 is just masquerading alone among all the other talls in Australia.
When both of these buildings were completed the owners of both buildings never tried to claim that they were taller than Rilato and most people still considered Rialto the tallest in Australia until Q1 and Eureka.
Shumway October 12th, 2006, 09:58 AM ^^ My point was that both towers are still technically listed as being taller buildings. If anyone wanted to they could claim that they were taller, the way Q1 is "taller" than Eureka at the moment.
But really why is a spire included is beyond me. What is the cut off point between building and spire? Could you build a 30 story resi with a 300m spire and claim it as the tallest resi in the country?? It should be just to roof, and buildings like the Rialto and Eureka would remain the true tallest, rather than others being technically taller. Floors that you can literally stand upon, rather than a spire only a bird can rest on.
MelboyPete October 12th, 2006, 02:30 PM :tiasd: IMO having a spire or some kind of decorative extension should count for something but definitely not to claim 'tallest.....'
If the 'powers at be' just stuck to tallest to roof as the primary title all this confusion and argument would cease.
If I was living in a 80+ storey building and have someone claim they live in the worlds 'tallest' residential building which had it's highest floor quite a few levels lower I'd think they were 'daft'.
Sometimes 'technicality' sucks.....:dunno:
Jimmy James October 12th, 2006, 03:13 PM They had a few news reports about it yesterday with the woman from Ch 10 reporting from the roof (which is apparently going to be off limits) she looked like she was going to get blown off it was that windy!
All the Melbourne media refers to Eureka as the tallest residential in the world but also acknowledges that they're soon to be overtaken by dubai.
CULWULLA October 12th, 2006, 04:16 PM When both of these buildings were completed the owners of both buildings never tried to claim that they were taller than Rilato and most people still considered Rialto the tallest in Australia until Q1 and Eureka.
yes isnt that weird.but i think most people didnt even know the massive spire was higher then Rialto even though it is Rl290m compared to Rialtos Rl253 or 13m higher above grd.but officially, 120 collins was oz tallest from 1991-2005.fact.
when does everyone think australia will get a bldg higher then Q1s spire to roof?
323m equates to an 80storey office bldg or 105storey resi tower etc.
Aussie Bhoy October 13th, 2006, 03:36 AM Spires suck if they are counted towards building height, This whole debate started because Malaysia wanted to claim having the tallest building in the world, even though Petronas is shorter than Sears in Chicago, but has a spire, whilst Sears has an aerial.
For the record,
Sears 442m roof, 527m aerial
Petronas 452m spire (about 410m roof)
It's a joke, and because some silly organistaion (probably bought out by Malaysians) says so, everyone was calling Petronas taller.
Put Sears and Petronas into Skyscraperpage diagrams if you want an illustrated version of how silly it is.
CULWULLA October 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM ^yeah in 1996 the debate happened with CTBUH. Thye voted that a spire can be included in overall height if part of the buildings intregal architecture. ie-spire/fin etc. and attached structures like antennas should not be included. thus the desicion that the spires on Petronas towers were to be included in height as 452m while Sears stayed at 442m.
This is when catorgories started. highest to roof, spire, top floor etc etc.
I agrre with including Chryslers spire with its height. You cant actually conclude where spire commences. its flows up from the conical section.
http://static.flickr.com/103/260251136_655d2efd2d_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/31/56673707_15efad83ce_b.jpg
Super Hornet October 14th, 2006, 01:01 AM Front page of the G.C. Bulletin today ... this is a laugh. For the record, I agree with Sahba Abedian, I'm proud of both towers too :)
Victoria's tall story
12Oct06
POOR Melbourne just can't get over its shortcomings.
With Indy about to overtake the Australian Formula One Grand Prix for spectator numbers, Melbourne tried it on again yesterday.
The southern capital claimed its new Eureka Tower was the world's tallest residential building despite it falling 22.5m short of our own record-setting Q1.
Daniel Grollo, who developed the $500 million, 300m Eureka Tower at Melbourne's Southbank, has claimed his building is taller because it has 92 storeys compared with Q1's 78.
Eureka was officially opened yesterday by the Victorian Premier, Steve Bracks.
But the boys at Sunland, the developer behind Q1, have had the last laugh.
The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat the independent body that rates heights of global buildings ranks the 322.5m Gold Coast icon not only the world's tallest residential building but the 20th tallest structure in world.
Eureka comes in at a paltry 35th.
Sunland Group managing director Sahba Abedian said the interstate squabbling didn't bother him.
"I'm proud of both towers. They are wonderful in their own right and it is terrific that Australia can lay claim to not one but two of the world's tallest residential towers," he said.
Construction on the blue and gold glass Eureka Tower began in August, 2002.
The building contains 3680 stairs, 52,000 square metres of windows, 556 apartments, 110,000 tonnes of concrete and weighs 200,000 tonnes.
Eureka's 13 lifts are also hailed as the fastest in the southern hemisphere, taking just 40 seconds to hit the top.
To date, 900 residents have moved into the Melbourne tower.
Institute of Architects Gold Coast chairman Glen Jones said yesterday that Q1 was a more modern and sleek building with an eye-catching sculptural look.
"QI has an angelic look, particularly in the night, whereas Eureka is more bold and masculine," he said.
"Q1 is not afraid to be out there on its own.
"On the other hand, Eureka is more a tower among other towers.
"I don't think Q1 would work in Melbourne because it is so unique and distinctive. Eureka has a much more understated feel.
"I think both towers will stand the test of time."
Q1 picked up several gongs at the recent Royal Institute of Architects state awards.
Q1 resident George Friend, who is chairman of the body corporate, said there was no comparison between the two skyscrapers.
"Q1 is a class act," he said. "This is simply tower envy.
"Q1 is quintessentially Gold Coast and what I would say to Melbourne is, there are no prizes for running second.
"We've got it over Melbourne with the weather, so why wouldn't we have it over them on tall buildings?"
Mr Bracks said the Eureka Tower was a building that would stand out in the skyline in places like New York, Tokyo or Shanghai.
"Eureka Tower is a building Melbourne can be proud of because it's original, it's functional and it's beautiful," he said.
"It seems there isn't a person in Melbourne who doesn't have an opinion on Eureka Tower and all the feedback is positive."
how retarded!
Q1 tallest resi? - let's just say if I glue a broomstick to my head, I'll be the world's tallest person!
And ofcourse, how predictable, A queenslander yet again pimping out their weather to flame other cities
JWvW October 14th, 2006, 01:10 AM @ AltinD: highest bar in the Northern Hemisphere is definitely not Amsterdam. Amsterdam's tallest building is 135 meters... and that's an office building. In Holland alone the only city with a reasonable skyline is Rotterdam. The highest bar/restaurant there is 100 meters in the 185 meter high euromast and the upper 85m are only a mast with a revolving elevator wrapped around it that goes up and down for nice views. but to get back on topic, great tower!!! WOW. Will be there for christmas. definitely gonna have a look :)
KJBrissy October 14th, 2006, 01:13 AM how retarded!
Q1 tallest resi? - let's just say if I glue a broomstick to my head, I'll be the world's tallest person!
And ofcourse, how predictable, A queenslander yet again pimping out their weather to flame other cities
Just don't let the facts get in the way of your ego!!
http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/tp/ty/rs/
Super Hornet October 14th, 2006, 01:41 AM i still think that journalist is a dickhead for the way he wrote that article. It is nothing but trolling towards melbourne
Andrewwise October 14th, 2006, 02:29 AM @ AltinD: highest bar in the Northern Hemisphere is definitely not Amsterdam. Amsterdam's tallest building is 135 meters... and that's an office building. In Holland alone the only city with a reasonable skyline is Rotterdam. The highest bar/restaurant there is 100 meters in the 185 meter high euromast and the upper 85m are only a mast with a revolving elevator wrapped around it that goes up and down for nice views. but to get back on topic, great tower!!! WOW. Will be there for christmas. definitely gonna have a look :)
Mate it was a joke about the legalised marijuana. Get it... 'Highest' bar?
lol
Oriolus October 14th, 2006, 02:43 AM ^^lol
Nobody really knows what the general public think about the antenna-spire-roof debate or inparticular the Q1-Eureka debate. Probably because the general public DON'T think about it. But I reckon someone should email Sunrise and have them put the issue on the ROSwall (http://www.seven.com.au/sunrise/form_roswall). Then Kochie & Mel can delve into the issue then hold a public poll so that this debate can be settled once and for all by the viewers of Sunrise :lol:
Seriously I would like to know where the general public stood on this.
SoulvisionQ1 October 14th, 2006, 04:25 AM LOL! HA! Why are people fighting here??? Q1 IS TALLER! because of the spike! sorry guys... Grollo should have thought about Eureka having a spire if they wanted to be the tallest... lol
Andrewwise October 14th, 2006, 04:36 AM LOL! HA! Why are people fighting here??? Q1 IS TALLER! because of the spike! sorry guys... Grollo should have thought about Eureka having a spire if they wanted to be the tallest... lol
I'm a Gold Coast resident and i consider Eureka to be taller. Simply because I considered the Sears Tower taller than the Patronas Towers. I stick to my beliefs.
Plus I hate the spire on Q1. Makes it look silly. I wish it just ended at the apex of the upside down cone thing.
Locke October 14th, 2006, 04:55 AM I love the spire on Q1, it was a genius idea, GENIUS!
Thanks to the spire Q1 nabbed them the World Tallest Resi title, which is a great marketing point and a great marketing point for the OB deck as well. No one really cares about subjective spire height v roof height arguements in the real world.
It was also a good time to be World's tallest since since Dubai will put things beyond contention soon, but Q1 has written it's place into the record books along with other greats and that's nothing to sneeze at.
Circle on Cavill or Soul near by aren't much shorter to floor plates at all than Q1 but are not 1/100,000th as well known.
So there is something to be said for titles and it was a smart move with the spire. Very smart (and let's not forget Grollo wanted to do the same thing recently on Eureka (still might)).
It's all beside the point because I'm sure will build something taller up here soon anyway.
Andrewwise October 14th, 2006, 05:18 AM I dunno I just feel like we cheated to get the tallest. I never really liked the Patronas Towers for claiming they were taller than the Sears Tower and now a tower in my city is doing the same thing.
uewepuep October 14th, 2006, 06:00 AM I really wan't to know how Q1 ended up with a 275m roof. I mean the spire *is* actually at 322m. But what people regard as the roof of the building is no where near 275.
auslankan October 14th, 2006, 06:36 AM Poor insecure Qlders. Who in the general public gives a flying F**K in the real world ( not skyscraper nerdsville) and as I have said before how many apartments are in the "stick" ?
Vic01 October 14th, 2006, 06:59 AM It's hilarious - you can smell the bitterness, fear & spite in that article (quality QLD journalism). A dormatory coastal strip of 500,000 imagining it somehow overshadows a 3.7 million metropolis.
zach24 October 14th, 2006, 07:14 AM Eureka is a nice building while Q1 would be a lot better if it didn’t have that hideous green glass. But overall, both are very average! Just because something is tall does not mean its some how the most superior building in the country
also...........
auslankan why post one message and then use your other nickname (vico1) and post another message?
why not use the same name to post both messages?????????????????? Because we all know that Auslankan and Vic01 are the same person
dsfenasni October 14th, 2006, 07:30 AM Thanks to the spire Q1 nabbed them the World Tallest Resi title
Does that mean if I do my hair like this:
http://www.goldwellusa.com/images/mohawk-big.jpg
i will get the guiness world record for tallest person in history?
Eureka! October 14th, 2006, 07:31 AM Double Post
Eureka! October 14th, 2006, 07:35 AM Eureka is a nice building while Q1 would be a lot better if it didn’t have that hideous green glass. But overall, both are very average!
Well Eureka is rated about third in the world on the rate the talls list so it seems the world doesn't tghink it's just average
Super Hornet October 14th, 2006, 07:40 AM It's hilarious - you can smell the bitterness, fear & spite in that article (quality QLD journalism). A dormatory coastal strip of 500,000 imagining it somehow overshadows a 3.7 million metropolis.
well put!
maybe if I glue a broomstick on my head, I'll be the worlds tallest person
Locke October 14th, 2006, 07:56 AM Does that mean if I do my hair like this:
http://www.goldwellusa.com/images/mohawk-big.jpg
i will get the guiness world record for tallest person in history?
Well maybe you can mark on this picture for me where the Chrysler building ends, if so why does it end at that point, and if so what is above it?
http://web.mit.edu/mpdaugh/www/Pictures/Summer04/08-25-04%20NYC/slides/Chrysler%20Building.jpg
Eureka! October 14th, 2006, 08:00 AM Without the spire the Chrystler building wouldn't be the same. Plus it hasn't got a ridiculously tall spire and isn't claiming to be the tallest.
Locke October 14th, 2006, 08:02 AM The Chrysler building did claim to be the tallest, in fact it's rather famous for that.
So if Q1 is a cheat, then so was the greatest building in the greatest skyscraper city of the 20th century. One could keep worse company.
The point is, it's an arguement that goes in circles.
uewepuep October 14th, 2006, 08:30 AM Well maybe you can mark on this picture for me where the Chrysler building ends, if so why does it end at that point, and if so what is above it?
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83
Chrysler building's roof is at 282m. It's really *not* that hard.
Locke October 14th, 2006, 08:36 AM http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83
Chrysler building's roof is at 282m. It's really *not* that hard.
I didn't ask where the roof is, I asked where the Chrysler building ends.
A r c h i October 14th, 2006, 09:57 AM So...how about that Eureka tower...?
Wezza October 14th, 2006, 03:13 PM Nice, would love to go up to the observation deck for a look one day.
I think some of you guys need to get over the mine is taller than yours syndrome by the way. Both of the buildings have their merrits.
zach24 October 14th, 2006, 03:27 PM will there be a restaurant up there as well?
Gargarensis October 14th, 2006, 03:35 PM lol its a shame sydney doesn't have a horse to back in this debate...
zach24 October 14th, 2006, 03:57 PM lol its a shame sydney doesn't have a horse to back in this debate...
although eurkea is a great building I believe its a little below the quality of Aurora (sydney) and DB Plaza.
Garmatt October 14th, 2006, 04:02 PM Yeah, I was wondering why Zach thinks both buildings are very average...is it because Sydney's not a contender here...?
Also, I think the statement in the article that Q1 stands out on it's own is a very telling one. I think it was meant to be a positive, but sounds more like a negative to me.
Anyway, Eureka's an awesome sight from certain angles, but I think it's pretty average side-on. In that respect I think Rialto is still the winner as it looks classy from all angles.
I think Q1 is a very standard design that can be seen anywhere in Asia / Middle East.
Grollo October 14th, 2006, 05:44 PM EUREKA:
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20panorama%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%202%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%201%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%203%20forum.jpg
Grollo October 14th, 2006, 07:01 PM Check out the view form the roof:
mms://media01.news.com.au/hwt/Eureka/eureka.wmv
Can't wait for the observation deck to open, no other observation deck in Australia comes close and only a handful of others worldwide are higher than 280m!
Citystyle October 14th, 2006, 07:20 PM Probably 2010 Cull :p but with jump slipform we shall see.
Garmatt October 14th, 2006, 08:10 PM Great to see some street level shots of the base. Thanks alot Grollo!
Podium interacts well with the street and is typically funky and unconventional. Can't wait for the sculpture to be installed in the light box - this is the sort of thing that Melbourne does really well. Republic's artwork panel is really impressive at street level. God, I can't wait to see this in person in December.
Eureka! October 14th, 2006, 11:53 PM Eureka's windows need cleaning already :)
And how is Eureka average. It's rated third in the world? I guess everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
crawf October 15th, 2006, 03:14 AM Eureka's windows need cleaning already
And how is Eureka average. It's rated third in the world? I guess everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
no offence, but im not a big fan of Eureka
zach24 October 15th, 2006, 04:10 AM EUREKA:
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20panorama%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%202%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%201%20forum.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/09-10-2006/eureka%20base%203%20forum.jpg
These pics create the impression that Eureka is very generic.
My favourite building in Melbourne would have to be that cute one on St Kilda Road.
Andrewwise October 15th, 2006, 05:47 AM Pictures just don't do Eureka justice. I was down in Melbourne driving along that road next to the MCG and suddenly I spotted Eureka sitting there. It just looked completely out of this world, like a futuristic tower from 100 years on. It's the top that really makes it stand out.
Definately my favourite building in Australia.
zach24 October 15th, 2006, 07:24 AM Pictures just don't do Eureka justice. I was down in Melbourne driving along that road next to the MCG and suddenly I spotted Eureka sitting there. It just looked completely out of this world, like a futuristic tower from 100 years on. It's the top that really makes it stand out.
Definately my favourite building in Australia.
True. When I was in Melbourne recently (before it was completed) I definately liked Eureka a lot better than in pictures.
A r c h i October 15th, 2006, 07:40 AM My favourite views of Eureka are looking down Queen St and heading along Batman Ave. Personally I think it's one of those buildings that you have to experience from different vantage points because of all the angles and you tend to appreciate it more with the changes in form from as you move around town.
broadie October 15th, 2006, 01:39 PM eureka is awsome
those pics have changed my mind about the base
cant wait to the observation deck opens
but if they had a Futerrama episode and they went to Melbourne
the eureka observation deck properly still wouldn't be open
lol jks will be worth the wait
MelboyPete October 15th, 2006, 04:57 PM How disappointing Eureka can't be seen at night in all its splendour.....and please people... don't even bother saying...."IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING"...I know...but at least Q1 looks great at night.
Andrewwise October 15th, 2006, 05:52 PM How disappointing Eureka can't be seen at night in all its splendour.....and please people... don't even bother saying...."IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING"...I know...but at least Q1 looks great at night.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6804/103455094cl1158032153ib7.jpg
I need's some sort of lights at the crown. Maybe they'll come with the Ob Deck.
I dunno about Q1 looking great at night. I live about 5 minutes from it and the only thing that makes it stand out is the red beacon on top of it. That and the fact that it's the only tower anywhere near it's size in the area.
Eureka! October 15th, 2006, 11:19 PM The problem is it already got all this holes in it when the lights are on but it would look so good with lights... And Andrewwise you're not a huge fan of Q1 are you??? ;)
CULWULLA October 16th, 2006, 12:14 AM its a residential building.
Q1 has a great lit crown.probably one of the best.\
some from Patrick beckers gallery
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/q119.JPG
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/q131.JPG
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/q136.JPG
If Eureka can emmulate some type of lighting with the planned commuincation tower it would give Eureka a great presence at night.
Andrewwise October 16th, 2006, 03:29 AM The problem is it already got all this holes in it when the lights are on but it would look so good with lights... And Andrewwise you're not a huge fan of Q1 are you??? ;)
Not really. I'm a Circle on Cavill man. I just think Q1 could have been alot better.
Shumway October 16th, 2006, 03:54 AM ^^ I love Circle on Cavil. Q1 is a fine tower though. Cul said it right in a post about the effect it has with such an understated podium, it just suddenly soars up from the ground.
Icanseeformiles October 16th, 2006, 04:02 AM Well if 'sticks' , masts , spikes, spires, comm'towers are THAT important to QLD maybe we should point them in the direction of The Omega Mast here in Vic. Sure no one can live in it (obviously) but you cant live in the Q1 Spire either. We win LOL. The way i see it both towers rock one can have the 'spire' record and we can have the 'roof' record. I know which one I prefer and that's what people will decide in their own minds. One thing we are overlooking being the Scraper fanatics that we are is that 'Joe Blow' wouldn't give a toss...unless you are Joe Blow that want's to buy an apartment in Australias tallest. Yes! I know Q1 'spire' is impressive and massive and substancial but IT STILL LOOKS TO TALL FOR THE BUILDING ! LOL...but that is just an opinion - doesn't mean I hate it.
So now...if the E mast ever goes ahead who decides if it's an architectural part of the building? I mean apart from the obvious. If a spire went on E it would do me for architectural even if it is a 120 colins style mast. It sure doesn't need it but it would be great to see just for that extra 'wow' factor.
Icanseeformiles October 16th, 2006, 04:17 AM Nice, would love to go up to the observation deck for a look one day.
I think some of you guys need to get over the mine is taller than yours syndrome by the way. Both of the buildings have their merrits.
there's nothing really to get over...it's just fun...pointless? yes, but a bit of fun and a good debating topic.
Grollo October 16th, 2006, 05:52 AM Wait until the observation deck is up and running to see what lighting will go at the top of the tower, like the art installations at the base of the tower and level 89 there are still a few surprises to come yet.
Alibaba October 16th, 2006, 01:44 PM True. When I was in Melbourne recently (before it was completed) I definately liked Eureka a lot better than in pictures.
when were you in Melbourne ?
zach24 October 16th, 2006, 02:07 PM when were you in Melbourne ?
for 3 months last year :bow:
Alibaba October 16th, 2006, 02:13 PM for 3 months last year :bow:
i c....
zach24 October 16th, 2006, 02:16 PM i c....
of course if i was there this year i would have caught up with you
Alibaba October 16th, 2006, 02:19 PM of course if i was there this year i would have caught up with you
just checking...
MelboyPete October 16th, 2006, 03:20 PM http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6804/103455094cl1158032153ib7.jpg
I need's some sort of lights at the crown. Maybe they'll come with the Ob Deck.
I dunno about Q1 looking great at night. I live about 5 minutes from it and the only thing that makes it stand out is the red beacon on top of it. That and the fact that it's the only tower anywhere near it's size in the area.
That's an awsome pic of Eureka at dusk....very imposing.
MelboyPete October 16th, 2006, 03:26 PM Wait until the observation deck is up and running to see what lighting will go at the top of the tower, like the art installations at the base of the tower and level 89 there are still a few surprises to come yet.
Sorry..Can't wait...:)
You seem to have some inside information....I wonder if the few suprises include a mast of some description
MG2 October 17th, 2006, 04:51 AM The podium is actually starting to look great!! I was a little worried with the renders but it looks so sharp... must get a closer look next time i'm wandering down the gate...
Brissy4me October 18th, 2006, 03:14 AM I like Eureka Tower, don't know about it's location though. I think it's a bit far out of the centre of the CBD. It could have been closer in, or at least on the other side of the river. All in all it's a wonderful, colourful, vibrant and aesthetically pleasing building :)
Brendan October 18th, 2006, 08:42 AM I do certainly believe that Eureka Tower without the mast is not that tall at all! I do think that it will be overcome by about two residential buildings in Dubai if it does not have the mast.
I know it will be surpassed by Princess Tower in 2008, but at least make Eureka Tower hold the title longer, I should say add a mast to it.
But this building is really great! And as Giorgos once said somewhere on the forum, the facade it excellent, you can now measure the other buildings around it!
Tyson October 18th, 2006, 11:49 AM I don't want themast. I think the one they proposed looked too tacked on and took a way from the building itself. I think they should leave it as the masterpiece that it is. To me the height record means nothing, especially if it's achieved purely by adding a stick to the roof.
KJBrissy October 18th, 2006, 11:50 PM ^^Agree totally, the render looked fairly obvious that it was put up for height alone, tourist attraction second. Just build a second taller tower:)
Muse October 19th, 2006, 03:18 AM I like Eureka Tower, don't know about it's location though. I think it's a bit far out of the centre of the CBD. It could have been closer in, or at least on the other side of the river.What on earth are you talking about? Fair enough, it's a bit set-back from the Yarra, but it's just across from the relatively slender Yarra River.
It's an extention of the CBD, and so many other talls have either already been constructed on Southbank and still more to come....not to mention Eureka's close proximity to the fab St. Kilda Road with its talls and mid-risers.
CtrlAltDel October 19th, 2006, 04:54 AM I absolutely love Eureka! I wish North America would get designs this sharp, original and bright. I love the white ruler marks, the shiney gold top and the splash of red. Oz is kickin ass!!
Drunkill October 19th, 2006, 10:51 AM THe ruler marks are for global warming, when the water level rises we can measure how high it is, seeming it's less then 100meters form the river.
Eureka! October 19th, 2006, 11:04 AM lol. We're gonna need a taller tower!
Mr. Maciek October 19th, 2006, 12:04 PM all of this just doesnt make any sense.....why isnt 120 and 101 collins taller than rialto towers? they are higher to spire arent they??
Eureka! October 19th, 2006, 12:49 PM Are the spires considered architectural features because they were added later??? I think most people just consider Rialto to be taller even though technically it might not be.
CtrlAltDel October 19th, 2006, 05:27 PM I heard that Eureka was considering adding some sort of rooftop element to bump it's height (maybe to surpass Q1?). Is this true?
mugley October 19th, 2006, 10:07 PM Eureka can't consider anything mate. It's just a building :)
Eureka! October 19th, 2006, 11:37 PM lol. Yes a mast has been proposed and IMO it's damn ugly.
CULWULLA October 20th, 2006, 12:27 AM the colins twins are taller, "officially". just look up emporis.
120 collins-264m
101 collins-260m
rialto-251m
dfresh- yes a 55m comminucations come climbing observation deck has been put to council and the DA lapsed last year due to not enough details. Eureka owners will definately lodge again with some sort of tower to sit atop Eureka. doesnt really matter now if it pases Q1 as there are a dozen towers that are uc/planned in Dubai which wil be taller anyhow.But Eureka may want highest in southern hem.even though it may not even be officially councted due to be communications. developers could lodge the DA for the mast this year or next or in 5 years. who knows.
heres a previous drawing of the mast.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8227/mastans7.jpg
CtrlAltDel October 20th, 2006, 01:06 AM Yeesh, that looks whoreanus. Thanks Cul and Eureka. Why not just make the little red thing extend up from the building or something better integrated rather than a tacky afterthought. Tallest in the Southern Hemisphere is still a pretty big accomplishment though. I remember hearing about Rialto being touted as the tallest in the S Hem. before I even knew there was another city in Australia other than Sydney. (Now Melb. is my favourite and I live in Canada btw)
SoulvisionQ1 October 20th, 2006, 09:13 AM That would look horrible! It would ruin the tower! i like it the way it is...
Eureka! October 20th, 2006, 09:30 AM I agree with you guys. A stuck on metal mast would ruin it. Maybe if they made it out of glass so no-one could see it. But seriously who cares if it's not the tallest. I'm quite happy with this fantastic building and would much rather it than Q1 which I find quite average. No I'm not a Q1 hater I just for some reason don't like the look so much. I dunno... Although I love CoC!
MelboyPete October 20th, 2006, 05:30 PM ^^ I love Q1's design but I think the facade sux....I also think the way they went about getting the 'tallest title' sux big time..but alas this is now all water under the bridge...lets move on shall we with Melbourne's and possibly the Southern Hemisphere's next tallest building.....come on developers...make Melbourne proud.
tic October 23rd, 2006, 03:03 AM ^^^ Get over it, you lot! I wonder how many of you melbourne critics have bothered to come to the Gold Coast to see the building before running it down. Sheessh, if we were to criticise Eureka the way you criticise Q1, there would be pages and pages of abuse hurled at us. Both buildings are great IMO and we should leave it at that. Move on and stop obsessing.... please.
AUboy October 23rd, 2006, 03:21 AM Oh I'm sorry, I'll make sure I let all the members know not to have an opinion anymore.
MelboyPete October 23rd, 2006, 03:12 PM ^^^ Get over it, you lot! I wonder how many of you melbourne critics have bothered to come to the Gold Coast to see the building before running it down. Sheessh, if we were to criticise Eureka the way you criticise Q1, there would be pages and pages of abuse hurled at us. Both buildings are great IMO and we should leave it at that. Move on and stop obsessing.... please.:doh:
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