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brianlee
October 20th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture?
Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding?
Which MRT station in Singapore is suffering from overcrowding/under-usage?

JediAlf
October 21st, 2006, 04:53 AM
Older generation elevated/underground station: every station is a carbon copy of one another. Smaller platform spaces in most of underground stations - really designed without careful thoughts.

New Generation of elevated station: Expo, Changi Airport, Dover - often absence of pillars in middle or anything on the platform. Changi Airport platform is the most spacious!

1) Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture? - Changi Airport/ Expo as well as all NEL stations which have set the standard of spacious stations with no middle pillars on the platform.

2) Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding? - Commonwealth, Buona Vista, Clementi, Redhill, Queenstown - very 1970s structure. Only colours set them different from one another. Eastern stations are even boring. Almost all stations are in same architecture.

3) Which MRT station in Singapore is suffering from overcrowding/under-usage? - Overcrowded station: Orchard, NS Dhoby Ghaut, Boon Lay. All these stations are often packed to the every corner! These are very very very busy stations.

Underusage - Harbourfront/Clarke Quay/Chinese Garden/Tanah Merah
These may not be no longer under used because of surroundings.

1) Harbourfront - almost packed due to opening of megamall Vivocity
2) Clarke Quay - thanks to SOHO above it.
3) Chinese Garden - new International school - Canadian International School will be built in future. Just across the canal.
4) Tanah Merah - quiet when there is no major events at Expo.

kenmin
October 22nd, 2006, 06:57 AM
The honour for station with the least usage is definitely Buangkok.

ryantey
October 22nd, 2006, 07:05 AM
Tanah Merah underusage? I don't think so. I use this station everyday. It is quite crowded during the peak hour.

Nov
October 22nd, 2006, 07:18 AM
I remember that a lot of students take the bus to Tanah Merah and then use the MRT. It gets used more than MRT stations like Kranji or Expo which only gets a lot of use if there's a special event (horseracing or exhibition).

JediAlf
October 22nd, 2006, 10:47 AM
Tanah Merah underusage? I don't think so. I use this station everyday. It is quite crowded during the peak hour.

If you count off peak hours, visually, it would be under-used.

Nearly all stations will be busy during peak hours. Few stations will be visually quiet and empty during off peak hours.

Jurong East, Clementi, Lakeside etc.. all have people coming in and out every minutes.

brianlee
October 22nd, 2006, 02:01 PM
My own opinion...
Best Architecture - Elevated - Expo, Dover, Woodlands (to a certain extent...)
- Underground - Changi Airport, HarbourFront, Dhoby Ghaut(NEL Station), Punggol (also including the above ground station for the LRT)

Lousy Architecture - Elevated - From Clementi all the way to Redhill (excluding Dover)...in the 1980s, designers concentrated more on functionality than aesthetics (sad...) some of the stations on the NS Line like AMK, Yishun, Yio Chu Kang also sport surprisingly boring and same designs...

- Underground - Tiong Bahru, Outram Park (EW Line Station), Tanjong Pagar, City Hall, Raffles Place, Somerset, Bugis and Lavender.

If u think abt it, some of the older stations like Novena, Newton of Toa Payoh look quite ok after the renovation programmes.

Stations that suffer from overcrowding - Elevated - Jurong East (during peak hours), Boon Lay (but the future Joo Koon and Pioneer and alleviate some of the crowds there)

- Underground - Outram Park...go and see it for yourself during peak hours, its horrendous. I'll rather switch twice at City Hall and Dhoby Ghaut then to transfer once at Outram Park. Other stations like Bugis and Orchard (a staggering 120 000 passengers use Orchard) are also overcrowded...

Surprisingly, Dhoby Ghaut is not as crowded as Outram Park, partly due to the fact that the concourses and transfer linkways are built very wide and can cope with the crowd. There are also seperate sets of escalators for those transfering(2 sets) and those who entered/exit the station (2 sets).

City Hall and Raffles Place are heavily used but during peak hours, trains are timed to arrive together, thus passengers are cleared swiftly and do not build up. They are also cross platform transfers and so there is no use of escalators or much walking needed.

Under-used stations - Dover, Lavender, Kallang, Eunos, Changi Airport (even though it's enormous), some of the stations on the NEL like Clarke Quay (just 6000+ people) and Buangkok (barely 2000) and Newton and Kranji on the NS Line. I don't konw about the other stations on the NS Line cos I hardly pass by them.

By the way I just joint skyscrapercity this week...

ddes
October 22nd, 2006, 03:37 PM
Hi.. I'm new here.

Best architecture:
Aesthetics wise, the NEL, Changi Airport Extension stations are nice. However, the NEL stations are too monotonous in station layout and are just 'clones' of each other(except Dhoby Ghaut, Outram Pk). I think the new CCL Stage 1 stations will have better architecture.

Other areas, boring as they may be, most NSL and EWL stations are designed to handle large crowds without being too overwhelming.

Lousy architecture:
Bugis- The only access from the platform to the concourse level is 3 escalators, 1 narrow staircase and 1 underused lift. In other stations, there are often 3 escalators, 1 wide staircase and a centrally located lift. This results in Bugis often being crowded as everyone 'queues' up to take the escalator.

Bishan- platform too narrow, partly contributing to the deaths that happened. Gets very slippery on rainy days. Thank goodness they are seperating the North and South bound platforms.

Stations suffering from overcrowding:
Bugis, Orchard, Dhoby Ghaut NSL, City Hall, Outram Park

Stations in Circle Line lightly to suffer from underusage:
ALL, except Dhoby Ghaut, Promenade, Paya Lebar, Serangoon, Bishan, Buona Vista, Harbourfront, Chinatown

Stations suffering from seasonal overcrowding:
Kallang due to NDP, Chinese Gdn due to Mid Autumn Fest, City Hall, Orchard during Fireworks Fest, NDP at Padang and New Year's, Raffles Place during office peak hour traffic

Underused stations:
Simei, Aljunied, Kembangan, Braddell, Newton, Buangkok, Punggol, Potong Pasir, Boon Keng, Clarke Quay, Expo, Marina Bay

mrtfreak
October 22nd, 2006, 04:37 PM
Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture?
Above ground: EXPO
Underground: NEL stations, Changi Airport

Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding?
Lousy: Dover (platforms should be wider)
Needs refurbishing: Bishan (being done)

Which MRT station in Singapore is suffering from overcrowding/under-usage?
Over-crowded: Orchard, Dhoby Ghaut NSL, Outram Park EWL, BUGIS
Under-used: BUANGKOK, Newton

RafflesCity
October 23rd, 2006, 03:43 AM
I feel that Newton & Marina Bay MRT stations seem relatively quiet compared to the others on the NS line.

As for favourite interior design, I find practically all the NEL stations interesting as I understand they feature artworks inside and they try to relate to their surroundings.

I suppose its a bit unfair to compare the newer stations to the older ones as the older ones were far simpler.

Exciting to watch will be the new Circle Line stations

redstone
October 23rd, 2006, 03:11 PM
Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture?

Expo, Dover, Changi Airport



Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding?

EW lines Clementi, Bouna Vista, Commonwealth, Queenstown, Redhill. Extremely functional design with almost no aesthetic value. Ugly colour shades too.

Tiong Bahru, Outram Park, etc. Ugly cheapo inteiors, wooden benches.

blizzardtweaker
October 23rd, 2006, 04:20 PM
hey, im back, glad to see to forum is active agn

Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture?
NSL: BIshan (openair undergrnd concept), erm Raffles Place?
EWL: Changi, Expo, Dover
NEL: All NEL Sta

Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding?
EWL above ground lines need to be re-designed to keep up with times
NSL (most sta r very functional and dont really have any design at all)

Which MRT station in Singapore is suffering from overcrowding/under-usage?
Over-crowded:
NSL: Bishan, Toa Phyoa, Yishun, Orchard, Dhoby Ghaut, CityHAll/RP
EWL: Outram Park , Bugis, Tangjong Pagar, CityHAll/RP
NEL: None (but Douby Guat is about to get the overcrowding status)
Under-used:
NSL:Kranji*, Newton, Novena, Yew Tee
EWL: Red Hill, Tana Merah, Changi Airport, Expo*
NEL: Bungkok, Bonn Keng, Ferrer Park, Cark Quay

RafflesCity
October 24th, 2006, 09:00 AM
I dont think Novena is underused though...it receives a fair amount of traffic and a lot of people commute there to work....it certainly handles more than it did....and will handle more once more developments around the station are completed.

Tanjong Pagar doesnt feel overcrowded...I would say its just nice, busy in the day but much quieter by night

mrtfreak
October 24th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Tanjong Pagar doesnt feel overcrowded...I would say its just nice, busy in the day but much quieter by night
Since the thread is also about architecture, does anyone else get the "airport" feel at the Tanjong Pagar concourse? There's a glass wall where you can look into the paid area, haha.

RafflesCity
October 24th, 2006, 09:13 AM
^^

slightly...it does have that feel about it....but there are large unused spaces at Tanjong Pagar...I read that a underground shopping mall will be installed there.

Farrer Park MRT station is another one which feels underused at the moment

mrtfreak
October 24th, 2006, 09:20 AM
The level above the concourse is empty. I think that's where they'll have their Tanjong X'change or whatever they call it. Probably will end up with the same fate as Dhoby X'change. Redhill is also getting shops on the Southern side of the station.

blizzardtweaker
October 25th, 2006, 11:38 AM
u sure? last time i was i was at red hill, i was deserted, i was almost the only one in the station....

RafflesCity
October 25th, 2006, 04:27 PM
^^
That sounds incredible...maybe it was really late or really early?

brianlee
October 28th, 2006, 06:13 AM
I think that some of the stations on the older lines like Bishan, YCK, AMK, Bradell, Somerset, Clementi to Redhill (excluding Dover) have very poor architecture.

AMK
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/AngMoKioMRT-TopView.JPG

YCK
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Ns15yiochukang.jpg

Somerset
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/SomersetMRText.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Somerset_MRT_Station_2.JPG

Clementi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ClementiMRT.JPG

Queenstown
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/MRT-Stationfac.JPG

Redhillhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Ew18_redhill.jpg

Tiong Bahru
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/MRT_Singapur_Tiong_Bahru_Station.JPG

brianlee
October 28th, 2006, 06:16 AM
sorry the pictures are abit big...don't really know how to download pics...especially having trouble putting in pics that i have saved in my documents. Any instructions??

ignoramus
October 28th, 2006, 12:51 PM
sorry the pictures are abit big...don't really know how to download pics...especially having trouble putting in pics that i have saved in my documents. Any instructions??

Try www.imageshack.us. You can resize the pictures you upload in a number of sizes to fit forum pages.

RafflesCity
October 28th, 2006, 01:58 PM
I suppose for first few MRT stations,(opened in 1987 with great excitement), their design must have been conceived in the early 80s....hence the architecture isnt as inspired when seen in today's light where form is now gaining importance.

Overall though, I find the stations highly functional and adequate.

Perhaps an upgrading of the station entrances are in order....in line with the upgrading-nature of Singapore ;-)

ryantey
October 28th, 2006, 03:51 PM
I think all the station design of the existing North South Line is pretty okay for me. However, stations such as Redhill, Queestown, Commonwealth, Buena Vista, and Clementi need lots of refurbishments. They looks so old and unable to cope with the increasing traffic.

mrtfreak
October 28th, 2006, 05:48 PM
I think all the station design of the existing North South Line is pretty okay for me. However, stations such as Redhill, Queestown, Commonwealth, Buena Vista, and Clementi need lots of refurbishments. They looks so old and unable to cope with the increasing traffic.
They look old which is one thing. But I think they handle the capacity pretty well. In any case, what can be done to increase capacity? Maybe construct a new platform for Redhill? But I think its unnecessary and I agree that they were probably designed in the early 80s. Also, the most important thing at that time was having the funds to complete the project. The highest priority I might add. What would be the use if they were classy but the trains could not help to alleviate the traffic? I think the 5 stations look fine, even if their design is old, its like a trip back in time. I actually hate all these Xchanges SMRT is coming up with cause it kills the stations with the urbanisation.

ddes
October 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM
I hate those Xchanges.

To make more sense, they could actually have them in the paid-area of the stations, ie. convenience stores on the platform level; ala Shinkansen stations. But too bad, our platforms are narrow already.

Maybe they should take the money meant for developing the Xchanges and refurbish the existing stations. For eg, new platform screen doors, new floor/wall tiles, etc.

mrtfreak
October 28th, 2006, 06:28 PM
I hate those Xchanges.

To make more sense, they could actually have them in the paid-area of the stations, ie. convenience stores on the platform level; ala Shinkansen stations. But too bad, our platforms are narrow already.

Maybe they should take the money meant for developing the Xchanges and refurbish the existing stations. For eg, new platform screen doors, new floor/wall tiles, etc.
Actually that's what I was thinking of. Why not small magazine shops on the platform level or something. Maybe we've just got enough clutter. Or maybe SMRT has too much space that they want to commercialise everything possible. Enough is enough though.

brianlee
October 29th, 2006, 08:13 AM
Berlin Super-station (Berlin Hauptbahnhof) is designed to have 350 000 people passings through it everyday. It's architecture is amazing. It has two levels of platforms-one on the top for the east-west inter-city commuter taffic as well as the Berlin S-bahn trains and the underground platforms for north-south inter-city traffic and u-bahn trains. The main station hall on the top deck is covered by a curved glass roof made up of photovoltaic glass panels. I think there are some forums on the new station.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/BlnHauptbahnhof26.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/BlnHauptbahnhof34.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Berlin_Hauptbahnhof_pano_06.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Opening_Berlin_Central_Station.JPG

Watch out there is more to come...

brianlee
October 29th, 2006, 08:20 AM
Next, Canary Wharf Station is found on the Jubilee Line Extension in London. It is built to accommodate more than 50 000 people everyday. The station was built using the cut-and-cover method in a drained and enclosed dock in Canary wharf and serves the new office complex springing up around it. It is so big that architects and critics have compared the station to a cathedral! It was open in 1998 along with the rest of the line.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Canary_wharf_tube_station_750px.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Canary_wharf_tube_canopy.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Canary_wharf_tube_concourse.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Jubilee_Line_train_at_Canary_Wharf_station.jpg

brianlee
October 29th, 2006, 08:28 AM
And of Course, you can't forget that our neighbour (Malaysia) has recently constructed the largest train station in SEA in KL, called the Station Sentral. It is located in the heart of KL near the city centre and is serviced by seven lines-KTM Intercity, 2 KL KTM Komuter Lines, KLIA Express, KLIA Transit, KL Putra LRT Line, KL Monorail Line. It is built to accommodate up to 50 million passengers yearly and up to 100 million by 2020.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Klsentral.jpg

RafflesCity
October 29th, 2006, 11:36 AM
Well I hope the new stations on the DTE can be impressive...I hope "Landmark" Station lives up to its name...

But of all the stations I find the colour of Buona Vista most disgusting

Cliff
October 30th, 2006, 01:10 PM
i'll be looking at over ground stations only...

Which MRT station in Singapore has excellent architecture?

Expo and Dover

Which MRT station in Singapore has lousy architecture, or needs to undergo renovation/rebuilding?

all the others

Which MRT station in Singapore is suffering from overcrowding

they are all fine i guess

/under-usage?

all under good use

brianlee
October 30th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Anyone knows the maximum capacity for MRT Stations in Singapore, whether or not it is elevated or underground. All I know is that Dhoby Ghaut can cope with a maximum of 20 000 passengers every hour at peak times.

Dhoby Ghaut, another giant station with excellent architecture (compared to the rest of the MRT network)... Of course I'm talking about the Northeast Line Station, the new linkways and the Atrium@Orchard along with it's huge public MRT Station concourse. There is a huge gap in the architecture of the NSL Station although through upgrading it looks a bit better. Dhoby Xchage is a total waste of space and money. No one goes there and sooner or later all the shops are gonna close down...

brianlee
October 30th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Built to cope with 20 000 passengers every hour during peak times. The largest station in Singapore and the only one to have three lines connecting together and the only one to have tavellators (although I think Outram Park should also get travellators).

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8602/dhobyghautmrtstationxo4.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationxo4.jpg)

This is the platform on the NEL Station and if I'm not wrong the train is heading in the direction of Punggol...

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9744/dhobyghautmrtstationplavv1.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationplavv1.jpg)

Another view of Dhoby Ghaut NEL Station Platform. There are two sets (one ascending and one descending) of escalators for transfers while one single escalator in descending mode ferries passengers down to the platform from the faregates at B2 There are three stairs linking the platform to the transfer links.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2972/dhobyghautmrtstationentfb0.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationentfb0.jpg)

The entrance concourse integrated into the Atrium@Orchard where passengers start or end ascend/descend into the ticketting concourse where the faregates are located.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1584/dhobyghautmrtstationtragx5.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationtragx5.jpg)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9131/dhobyghautmrtstationtraeg5.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationtraeg5.jpg)

Passengers transferring from the NEL to NSL have to ascend 2 stories into an intermediate concourse. After that they have to again ascend another storey into a long linkway where they have to descend one storey from the linkway into the NSL Station platforms. The opposite happens for those wishing to transfer from NSL to NEL.

The two pictures above show the middle set of escalators (in either direction) that passengers have to use to transfer between the different lines. There are 5 esclators but I usually only see four working.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5290/dhobyghautmrtstationtrawi9.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhobyghautmrtstationtrawi9.jpg)

Finally this is the transfer linkway.

BODYholic
October 30th, 2006, 02:37 PM
I think Marina South is under-utilised.

BODYholic
October 30th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Dhoby Ghaut is a station that i love and hate. It is a big station and i simply love the stretch of the travellator (ur last photo). But i also loathe the layout of those intertwine escalotors that hopelessly lead one up and down and then up-side-down. :ohno: It is really an inefficient station for me. That's coming fm an Engineer point of view. :)

Cliff
October 30th, 2006, 02:48 PM
I think Marina South is under-utilised.

ah yes, about marina south, now its under-untilised, but by 2010, it should be quite a popular station due to the MBFC and company. My guess is that station will even need expansion to cope with rising crowds. How interesing...

BODYholic
October 30th, 2006, 03:07 PM
oh what's MBFC and company? care to elaborate slightly. thanks. :)

ignoramus
October 30th, 2006, 03:34 PM
You meant Marina Bay Station right. MBFC & Company refers to the Marina Bay Financial Centre & the other developments in the Marina South region.

ThirskUK
October 31st, 2006, 05:21 AM
Since I'm working on designing the DTL stations... I would tell you not to expect much from these... Landmark, Bayfront and Marina Bay station... there are too much constrains to to things differently... and also the budget and URA's comments...

Now I'm quite tired of URA and LTA.

I'm willing to answer some of the questions about DTL if you want.

ddes
October 31st, 2006, 05:33 AM
Since I'm working on designing the DTL stations... I would tell you not to expect much from these... Landmark, Bayfront and Marina Bay station... there are too much constrains to to things differently... and also the budget and URA's comments...

Now I'm quite tired of URA and LTA.

I'm willing to answer some of the questions about DTL if you want.

Okay, here goes then.

How's the architecture of the stations?
Will there be provisions made to link Landmark station to Marina Bay or Raffles Place?
Will anyone of the stations be a side-platform? Eg. Cross Street.
Will the design of Bayfront station take into consideration of Marina Bay Sands?
Why is Landmark's ticket gates and platform on the same floor, considering that the trains are just 3 carriages long.

Thanks.

brianlee
October 31st, 2006, 01:57 PM
Since I'm working on designing the DTL stations... I would tell you not to expect much from these... Landmark, Bayfront and Marina Bay station... there are too much constrains to to things differently... and also the budget and URA's comments...

Now I'm quite tired of URA and LTA.

I'm willing to answer some of the questions about DTL if you want.

Oh cool! You are designing the DTE Stations?? What are the capacities of the stations in the DTE? Yah I know that you are not allowed to release such info so you can not answer it if you don't want to...

ThirskUK
October 31st, 2006, 02:55 PM
Okay, here goes then.

How's the architecture of the stations?
Will there be provisions made to link Landmark station to Marina Bay or Raffles Place?
Will anyone of the stations be a side-platform? Eg. Cross Street.
Will the design of Bayfront station take into consideration of Marina Bay Sands?
Why is Landmark's ticket gates and platform on the same floor, considering that the trains are just 3 carriages long.

Thanks.

Just got back home,

the architecture is quite simple, we try to make it more challenge but was breaked by LTA. But the good thing is, they're willing to spend more on this DTL because it's part of the pioneer development down there at marina bay.

Landmark station is side-platform, the others are just normal.

Bayfront and Landmark aboveground structures are designed to be quite the same or at least the same way. The design is not really integrated with the IR, instead, we're trying to keep it simple.

The faregates and platform ane NOT on the same level.

For the capacity, I have to check again, can't really remember the figures.

ryantey
October 31st, 2006, 03:21 PM
I hope the station design can be looked like London Jubilee Line Station, Canary Wharf. LOL. It could be spectacular to see one in Singapore

mrtfreak
October 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM
Thanks for sharing. One thing I would like to know though, would be if the station's length. From this I suppose one could infer whether trains running on it would be 6 or 3 cars.

As for the name Landmark, isn't this station near to the Sail? Wouldn't that be the Landmark? :)

ddes
October 31st, 2006, 04:47 PM
I guess for Landmark, they chose that as the govt plans something iconic and interesting at that area, forgot wads tt place called. The pointy part of the land that faces the Bay.

ThirsUK, you mention conflict between URA and LTA. What is the debate exactly about? Thanks.

ignoramus
October 31st, 2006, 04:53 PM
I guess for Landmark, they chose that as the govt plans something iconic and interesting at that area, forgot wads tt place called. The pointy part of the land that faces the Bay.

ThirsUK, you mention conflict between URA and LTA. What is the debate exactly about? Thanks.

The Central Promontory...

When will they ever manage to sell that site off to someone!!! Its one of the few missing pieces of the Marina Bay puzzle...

ThirskUK
October 31st, 2006, 05:38 PM
Hehehe
The stations are for 3 cars driverless train. so they'll be shorter except for Bayfront which is the interchange.

Landmark is named after the building at that site called landmark.

The conflict is not between URA and LTA but between station architects (me and my team) with URA and also LTA, quite a headache...

Yes, we're using jubilee line book as our bible here...

mrtfreak
October 31st, 2006, 05:43 PM
Ah, thanks for the info again. So Bayfront is an interchange station eh. 6 car driverless trains? And, uh, an interchange with what. Oh man, more questions, lol. Stacked platforms or single island platforms for 2 or more lines?

JediAlf
October 31st, 2006, 05:58 PM
Ah, thanks for the info again. So Bayfront is an interchange station eh. 6 car driverless trains? And, uh, an interchange with what. Oh man, more questions, lol. Stacked platforms or single island platforms for 2 or more lines?

He means the size of BayFront station is larger than the normal layout of most of stations on CCL.

This may be signalling that there may be another line connecting it - probably towards Tanjong pagar which was first conceptualised in Marina line or final leg from HarbourFront CCL to BayFront CCL. All CCL stations are designed to cater to 3 car trains.

mrtfreak
October 31st, 2006, 06:08 PM
He means the size of BayFront station is larger than the normal layout of most of stations on CCL.

This may be signalling that there may be another line connecting it - probably towards Tanjong pagar which was first conceptualised in Marina line or final leg from HarbourFront CCL to BayFront CCL. All CCL stations are designed to cater to 3 car trains.
Not necessarily... They could feature stacked stations built for other lines of 6 car trains in future. Eg. we know that Promenade is an interchange but don't know how long the BTL line trains are. No harm asking either eh? :)

RafflesCity
November 1st, 2006, 01:50 AM
Marina Bay MRT could become an interchange station, and be connected to Bayfront

ThirskUK
November 1st, 2006, 03:01 AM
I got a feeling that I'm talking too much, hehehe.
So from now on if anyone wants some information, just PM me.

ddes
November 1st, 2006, 05:08 AM
For Bayfront MRT to be connected to Marina Bay is too far. Bayfront is where the IR is.

I'm guessing it'll either be part of Stage 6 CCL or the Southern loop terminus of the ERL. Hehe.

mrtfreak
November 1st, 2006, 01:42 PM
For Bayfront MRT to be connected to Marina Bay is too far. Bayfront is where the IR is.

I'm guessing it'll either be part of Stage 6 CCL or the Southern loop terminus of the ERL. Hehe.
Actually I think Ignoramus found something that specified building tunnels towards Marina Bay from Bayfront station, so I wouldn't rule this out.

ignoramus
November 1st, 2006, 01:49 PM
Actually I think Ignoramus found something that specified building tunnels towards Marina Bay from Bayfront station, so I wouldn't rule this out.

Yeah. It was a contract tender for the Downtown Extension, posted on lta.gov.sg a couple of months back. It suggests a number of things...

ignoramus
November 1st, 2006, 01:52 PM
(a) Contract 906

This Contract consists of Bayfront station, overrun tunnels beyond Bayfront station towards North South Line Marina Bay Station and tunnels from Bayfront station to the interface with Common Service Tunnel (CST) at Marina Boulevard.

This Contract may also include turnback track/maintenance facilities with a shell station box for an interchange station with NSL Marina Bay station.

(b) Contract 907

This Contract consists of Landmark station and the connecting tunnels from the interface with CST at Marina Boulevard to Raffles Quay

brianlee
November 1st, 2006, 02:16 PM
Anyone here knows the present usage of the MRT Stations (as in the average number of people who use the station daily)?

BODYholic
November 1st, 2006, 03:00 PM
^^ MRT Ridership breakdown by Months/years (http://www.smrt.com.sg/investors/key_operation_data.html#) but not by station.

ddes
November 4th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Lols. Just a random qn to spice this thread up again..

But,

Which line sees more passengers?

Personally, I think its the NSL. NSL peak hr traffic is perpetually the whole day, especially around the city area. Evening peak extends to almost up to 10pm, with trains still needing to turnback at Yishun at 9 most heading back to Marina Bay.

ddes
November 4th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Lols. Just a random qn to spice this thread up again..

But,

Which line sees more passengers?

Personally, I think its the NSL. NSL peak hr traffic is perpetually the whole day, especially around the city area. Evening peak extends to almost up to 10pm, with trains still needing to turnback at Yishun at 9 most heading back to Marina Bay.

Cliff
November 6th, 2006, 11:52 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Singapore_mrt_lrt_system_map_future.png

is this the future line? Sorry if i'm abit slow, i still need to get used to the map about, lol. Btw, is DTL the circle line?

Pengui
November 6th, 2006, 01:49 PM
The prize for the most undersized and overcrowded station imo has to go to BUGIS ! ;-)

ddes
January 1st, 2007, 07:13 PM
I recently been to Somerset Station and there have been quite alot of changes since I last been there.

Anybody can tell me what the construction is about? They have taken out the "doors" to Somerset MRT station, the other side, the unused side is going through some kind of construction.

Can anyone explain why Harbourfront MRT station had their entrance/exit gates shifted nearer to the Vivo City/Harbourfront Centre entrance from it's previous location just infront of the GTMs?

It sounds like it is for convenience but really, it's a human traffic mess... Especially during weekends.

mrtfreak
January 2nd, 2007, 02:22 AM
I recently been to Somerset Station and there have been quite alot of changes since I last been there.

Anybody can tell me what the construction is about? They have taken out the "doors" to Somerset MRT station, the other side, the unused side is going through some kind of construction.

Can anyone explain why Harbourfront MRT station had their entrance/exit gates shifted nearer to the Vivo City/Harbourfront Centre entrance from it's previous location just infront of the GTMs?

It sounds like it is for convenience but really, it's a human traffic mess... Especially during weekends.
Probably station upgrading for Somerset and to integrate it into the new developments coming soon to the area.

The HarbourFront gates were shifted to increase capacity at the station. Imagine if the gates were still in front of the GTM and with the increase in crowd numbers, there would be an instant backlog, which could jam up traffic flow onto the escalators and result in accidents. Moving the gates further down served two purposes - bringing the exit point closer to exit E to Vivo City basement 2 and to increase the concourse area capacity to deal with additional commuters.

RafflesCity
January 2nd, 2007, 08:33 AM
The new shopping centre by Land Lease at Somerset Central has started work, so the hoarding can be seen outside the MRT station. It should be intergrated with the station.

babystan03
January 2nd, 2007, 08:39 AM
The new shopping centre by Land Lease at Somerset Central has started work, so the hoarding can be seen outside the MRT station. It should be intergrated with the station.

Yeah saw that....but still can't find the rendering....:(

RafflesCity
January 2nd, 2007, 08:57 AM
hopefully will be soon this year :yes:

JediAlf
January 3rd, 2007, 09:51 AM
I recently been to Somerset Station and there have been quite alot of changes since I last been there.

Anybody can tell me what the construction is about? They have taken out the "doors" to Somerset MRT station, the other side, the unused side is going through some kind of construction.

Can anyone explain why Harbourfront MRT station had their entrance/exit gates shifted nearer to the Vivo City/Harbourfront Centre entrance from it's previous location just infront of the GTMs?

It sounds like it is for convenience but really, it's a human traffic mess... Especially during weekends.

1) It is primarily to move the outgoing masses to away from incoming people

2) It is also function to re-connect the part to CCL station adjacent to HabourFront where they will tear down the wall - some part of GTM machines may be affected - to create bigger entrance to CCL station and transit walkway between CCL and NEL stations.

spikeshamz
January 3rd, 2007, 10:02 AM
I hope the network of singapore rail could really achieved its completeion soon. Why don't they leased the projects to private companies???? They should built parts by parts for example the eastern regional line from bedok to Marine Parade (its a line that I think will makes a lot of profits) and connect it to Stadium station for greater feasibility and accessibility. Not only that, the government would also be able to save lots of money because pf the inflation and high cost that will involved in the future.