Still another 35 floors to go on central tower with progress at 1 floor every 2 weeks that's 70weeks. 70 weeks takes us nicely to xmas!

Christmas 2010!

Its about time you started taking those anti-depressants and anti-obsessive pills. You've been miserable and been rattling on for the last 3 years or more about the same issues to every newbie and anyone else that will listen :ohno:

its going up albeit at a pace slower than we would like just like the Point and the Torch. There is nothing we can do about it and, hey, it is better than not going up

cheer up :)

Its about time you started taking those anti-depressants and anti-obsessive pills. You've been miserable and been rattling on for the last 3 years or more about the same issues to every newbie and anyone else that will listen :ohno:

its going up albeit at a pace slower than we would like just like the Point and the Torch. There is nothing we can do about it and, hey, it is better than not going up

cheer up :)

They say the torch is one of the best projects in the marina, and by they i mean real people like on ssc, so suck it up, at least you have a project that is going to finish, people have paid millions and not a spec of dirt has been lifted off the ground

Its about time you started taking those anti-depressants and anti-obsessive pills. You've been miserable and been rattling on for the last 3 years or more about the same issues to every newbie and anyone else that will listen :ohno:

its going up albeit at a pace slower than we would like just like the Point and the Torch. There is nothing we can do about it and, hey, it is better than not going up

cheer up :)

I'm not taking sides, and he may be miserable(no offense), but at least he is telling the truth.

Better to hear the truth and be optimistic than to hear lies and be fooled into being optimistic.

AZ

they were doing a floor every 5 days before summer hours, ramadam and every other holiday they have got, so please dont get sucked in to the banter and discuss this for 5 pages.

they were doing a floor every 5 days before summer hours, ramadam and every other holiday they have got, so please dont get sucked in to the banter and discuss this for 5 pages.

When have they ever completed a full floor cycle in 5 days?

Comparing 2 pictures does not give you enough information to make that conclusion. More accurate to average over a number of floors over a longer time period, 2 months for example or from the first suspended floor to the latest.

I'm not taking sides, and he may be miserable(no offense), but at least he is telling the truth.

Better to hear the truth and be optimistic than to hear lies and be fooled into being optimistic.

AZ

we all know the score or the truth as you put it. It is obvious to anyone who has read most of the posts. Even the dumbest person works it out eventually. Nobody in their right mind is a fan of BCD. But TB bangs on about the same points week in week out, month in month out, year in year out. We all know Rangers are a crap team but we don't keep banging on about it (although we could because they really are crap :)) because it's boring. That's why he needs to start taking the pills.

And Burnley are the nuts i suppose. Around saturday was ya?

i believe you just enjoy dropping the odd comment here and there to wind it up!
May and june wasnt bad was it ?

i believe you just enjoy dropping the odd comment here and there to wind it up!
May and june wasnt bad was it ?

yes it passes the time of day when things are slow.

there is no evidence that our experience will be any different than the Point or the Torch except hopefully for a better handover. I think handover will be sometime in 2011 hopefully in the first half. The waiting won't have been a great experience

I think the final result will look great though

As a so called newbie i wish i shared your optimism. By the way i purchased in May 2007 and have fully paid up so i think i am quite within reason to be p*ssed of.

As a so called newbie i wish i shared your optimism. By the way i purchased in May 2007 and have fully paid up so i think i am quite within reason to be p*ssed of.

I bought two apartments in July 2007 and I have paid 90%. Nobody is happy Jason but best to reset your expectations as all the huffing and puffing by investors re the Point and the Torch got them nowhere

on the plus side
- the finishing and handover quality should be better than the Point and the Torch
- BC location is fabulous
- metro and tram will be very handy
- we won't have to read TB's posts anymore

roll on the handover as I then stop working!

i believe you just enjoy dropping the odd comment here and there to wind it up!
May and june wasnt bad was it ?

May and June were great months, won the league and the cup:okay:

As for your first sentence, I like to help keep it real when others are in denial and constantly posting fantasy. Because my comments don't align with the investors hopes and aspirations I am seen as mister negative and miserable.

I understand about keeping it real, i believe we have all been brought down a few pegs with uk and dubai markets whether you are an experienced or inexperienced invester. so it is not very nice to gloat.

But the point is that you are talking about money and it is very dear to peoples hearts!!
Dubai select have taken the p... and we all wished we had invested in silverene i am sure, but we havent.
were you right with your 'point' predictions
by the way havent a clue what football team you are on about... must be scottish, i thought they only had a couple of teams in their league so cant be that difficult to win

I understand about keeping it real, i believe we have all been brought down a few pegs with uk and dubai markets whether you are an experienced or inexperienced invester. so it is not very nice to gloat.

But the point is that you are talking about money and it is very dear to peoples hearts!!
Dubai select have taken the p... and we all wished we had invested in silverene i am sure, but we havent.
were you right with your 'point' predictions
by the way havent a clue what football team you are on about... must be scottish, i thought they only had a couple of teams in their league so cant be that difficult to win

LOL

I understand about keeping it real, i believe we have all been brought down a few pegs with uk and dubai markets whether you are an experienced or inexperienced invester. so it is not very nice to gloat.

But the point is that you are talking about money and it is very dear to peoples hearts!!
Dubai select have taken the p... and we all wished we had invested in silverene i am sure, but we havent.
were you right with your 'point' predictions
by the way havent a clue what football team you are on about... must be scottish, i thought they only had a couple of teams in their league so cant be that difficult to win

Just to clear things up. True Blue doesn't have anything with SG or silverene, infinity or any of the projects currently being built. Unlike us with a vested interest in projects who come to SSC for genuine information he is a sad, lonely guy that comes on here because he has no mates and nothing else going on on his life. He thinks he knows how it is an we don't. Why would someone gloat at others misfortune? He had nothing but bother with cayan in late handovers and money issues and snagging etc etc. But he never mentions thAt.
By the way anyone calling themselves True Blue in Scotland is a NED or Chav. Basically a sad person.
Anyone got good overhead photos of BC?

Just to clear things up. True Blue doesn't have anything with SG or silverene, infinity or any of the projects currently being built. Unlike us with a vested interest in projects who come to SSC for genuine information he is a sad, lonely guy that comes on here because he has no mates and nothing else going on on his life. He thinks he knows how it is an we don't. Why would someone gloat at others misfortune? He had nothing but bother with cayan in late handovers and money issues and snagging etc etc. But he never mentions thAt.
By the way anyone calling themselves True Blue in Scotland is a NED or Chav. Basically a sad person.
Anyone got good overhead photos of BC?

I only call myself True Blue on this forum, perhaps you haven't grasped that concept yet!

You and your friend always make it personal when you can't come up with something intelligent, that is what I find sad.

^^
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^^:laugh:

Dont get me going about football as i am totally depressed already! at least youve not got Garry Megson as your manager.

Just to clear things up. True Blue doesn't have anything with SG or silverene, infinity or any of the projects currently being built. Unlike us with a vested interest in projects who come to SSC for genuine information he is a sad, lonely guy that comes on here because he has no mates and nothing else going on on his life. He thinks he knows how it is an we don't. Why would someone gloat at others misfortune? He had nothing but bother with cayan in late handovers and money issues and snagging etc etc. But he never mentions thAt.
By the way anyone calling themselves True Blue in Scotland is a NED or Chav. Basically a sad person.
Anyone got good overhead photos of BC?

True Blue is one of the best forumers on this website. Relax with your writing.

True Blue is one of the best forumers on this website. Relax with your writing.

what do you know. He is a miserable **** :cheers:

True Blue is one of the best forumers on this website. Relax with your writing.

No he's not as his views are unbalanced and he claims an expertise he doesn't have. And...no I won't relax with my views until he stops slating my investment and acknowleges SG are no worse or no better then most of the developers in Dubai Including Cayan.
And he stays a couple of miles away from me and is business partners with an aquaintances of mine. They dont build skyscrapers...in fact they don't build!
If by "one of the best forumers" you mean by attendance and posts... I agree. Most people have a life and can only post now and then.

TB tells you as it is.

If you want to like what you hear call Select.

Just to clear things up. True Blue doesn't have anything with SG or silverene, infinity or any of the projects currently being built. Unlike us with a vested interest in projects who come to SSC for genuine information he is a sad, lonely guy that comes on here because he has no mates and nothing else going on on his life...

I also have no interest in anything currently being or already build, and so do many other prominent old-time forumers.

In that regard, it is you and people like you who have nothing in common with the REAL purpose of this forum, and their biggest "contribution" is clogging up the database servers with off-topic crap ... so yeah I am showing you the middle one.

Consider being still here in our mercy. :lol:


So, any pictures?

I also have no interest in anything currently being or already build, and so do many other prominent old-time forumers.

In that regard, it is you and people like you who have nothing in common with the REAL purpose of this forum, and their biggest "contribution" is clogging up the database servers with off-topic crap ... so yeah I am showing you the middle one.

Consider being still here in our mercy. :lol:


So, any pictures?
So the purpose of this forum is for people to strike up vendettas against developers a d continually bash them. Have a read at your chums posts across all SG pages and then on others. Clear pattern.
However I hear you. If I don't fall in with the geek crowd I will be no longer welcome. mmm...hard choice.

Any photos?

finally some new photos here :)

03/October/2009

Bay Central

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^^As usual Imre comes up with something worth commenting on!

Great pictures - 2 out of 3 towers aint bad!

:applause:

^^As usual Imre comes up with something worth commenting on!

Great pictures - 2 out of 3 towers aint bad!

:applause:

bravo imre

I also have no interest in anything currently being or already build, and so do many other prominent old-time forumers.

In that regard, it is you and people like you who have nothing in common with the REAL purpose of this forum, and their biggest "contribution" is clogging up the database servers with off-topic crap ... so yeah I am showing you the middle one.

Consider being still here in our mercy. :lol:




blimey

^^ Chearing for the brother in arms, aren't we ...

I Love True Blue and Altin :hug::banana::banana:

the rules of this forum are clear, no personal attacks. i have experienced similar personal attacks before from the same individuals. One went as far as spreading rumors about my financial condition because of my criticism of Select. As it turned out later, that individual have made deals with Select in the form of a one year payment freeze, a piece of information he never shared here until right before the end of that freeze.

TB's contribution to this forum is like no other, and he at least has the integrity to say it like it is.

why is this floor larger than the rest? is it mechanical floor

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Guys Id keep ur hair on a bit about progress on this and any project over the last month or so. During Ramadan, contractors leave at 1pm so most developers will be working at half their normal pace no matter who they are.

On this logic BC isnt anything other than the norm. What have they done 2 floors over ramadan when they were averaging a floor a week before summer, thats just simple logistics coming into play. Oh and not forgetting that Workers get a much longer breaks during the summer months.

Id really watch how things progress between now and December to get a true reflection of how quickly this tower is going to be finished. By the way anyone seen this mock up yet?

I Love True Blue and Altin :hug::banana::banana:

same person with 3 alter egos. Sun is getting to you - I'd move to somewhere cooler

Guys Id keep ur hair on a bit about progress on this and any project over the last month or so. During Ramadan, contractors leave at 1pm so most developers will be working at half their normal pace no matter who they are.

On this logic BC isnt anything other than the norm. What have they done 2 floors over ramadan when they were averaging a floor a week before summer, thats just simple logistics coming into play. Oh and not forgetting that Workers get a much longer breaks during the summer months.

Id really watch how things progress between now and December to get a true reflection of how quickly this tower is going to be finished. By the way anyone seen this mock up yet?

sensible comment re progress

re mock up they didn't get it right first time and so have made quite a few modifications. Pictures should be available in October. Next construction update is due mid-Oct

any photos at basement level would be helpful

same person with 3 alter egos.

Wow, you're really ... slow

Is that piling on the third tower starting there?

Question, have SP stopped issuing program updates or have you all agreed to keep them off the forum?

This is the update for May, 5 months ago. The delays against these milestones are clear. Perhaps they forgot to allow for Ramadan!

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Wow, you're really ... slow

known for some time but thought I'd keep it quiet

I was hoping the two of you (ie not TB) would have something interesting or useful to say about BC

some photos at ground level or progress re the tram just outside BC would be great

Question, have SP stopped issuing program updates or have you all agreed to keep them off the forum?

This is the update for May, 5 months ago. The delays against these milestones are clear. Perhaps they forgot to allow for Ramadan!



your out of date as usual. Keep up

your out of date as usual. Keep up

Slowhand -just get your head out of your ar#e mate , and look at actual progress as opposed to promised progress -- these guys need to come clean they would make me feel more comfortable if they were honest about real progress and adjusted stage payments accordingly

Question, have SP stopped issuing program updates or have you all agreed to keep them off the forum?

This is the update for May, 5 months ago. The delays against these milestones are clear. Perhaps they forgot to allow for Ramadan!


TB

Here is the most recent update from August:

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^^Thanks.

Wanted to see what they were saying about hotel piling. Can see that they have moved it back to November now and pushed the hotel completion out in line.

No delays shown to residential towers program.

why is this floor larger than the rest? is it mechanical floor


Beppe

Not sure about West tower, but on central tower floors 13 and 34 are mechanical floors

Beppe

Not sure about West tower, but on central tower floors 13 and 34 are mechanical floors

Sorry to be pain, can I ask what floor the building work has actually reached -it looks pretty tall but I can not see any numbes.

thks

Ianthy

Beppe

Not sure about West tower, but on central tower floors 13 and 34 are mechanical floors

thanks :cheers:

my guess is west tower is around 20th floor and central around 17th

thanks :cheers:

my guess is west tower is around 20th floor and central around 17th

Thks Beppe. Very exciting, we are on 27 floor of West Tower and I can't wait to see some photos from Imre when it reaches this level.

When I think back to last year not a lot happening on this site etc - and now the build is progressing. Ok - it has slowed thru the summer - the heat, ramadam etc but overall I am encouraged by the progress.


Ianthy

We should have the pictures from the 27th floor by christmas if we are lucky, dont understand how anybody can be encouraged with the progress.

Slowhand -just get your head out of your ar#e mate , and look at actual progress as opposed to promised progress -- these guys need to come clean they would make me feel more comfortable if they were honest about real progress and adjusted stage payments accordingly

don't think anyone who has any nouse or intelligence thinks handover will be Dec 2010. My guess made along time ago is sometime in 2011. This aproximates to the delay on the Point and the Torch and my JBR purchase. So should be no surprises.

because of the contract we signed, it is up to the individual to talk to BCD about changes to payment schedules or just do their own thing as some say they have. I have paid to the original agreement but that was my decision. Everyone naturally is free to make their own choice

can't imagine anyone is really happy about the delays but what are YOU going to do about it? That's the important point. All this huffing and puffing has made not one jot of difference so far except for the selfish ****s who have used SSC to negotiate special deals for themselves

any up to date photos of basement/ground level at BC would be enlightening

..... I have paid to the original agreement but that was my decision.

..... so far except for the selfish ****s who have used SSC to negotiate special deals for themselves


U must grow money on trees if happy to keep to the original agreement and definitely acting very naive with your ivestment. Bust as u say, everyone is free to do as they please.

I for one think u are one of those selfish ****s who have used/is using SSC to negotiate special deals for yorself with BC etc ... cos u are not for real, at all, as an investor.

..... I have paid to the original agreement but that was my decision.

..... so far except for the selfish ****s who have used SSC to negotiate special deals for themselves


U must grow money on trees if happy to keep to the original agreement and definitely acting very naive with your investment. But as u say, everyone is free to do as they please.

I for one think u are one of those selfish ****s who have used/is using SSC to negotiate special deals for yorself with BC etc ... cos u are not for real, at all, as an investor with your comments.

Kindly posted by Imre on Dubai Marina Thread today

Emaar Fact Sheet – Dubai Marina

Offering Riviera-style living in a modern aesthetic setting, Dubai Marina by Emaar Properties is one of the first and largest of its kind waterfront developments in the region. With a total development area of 50 million sq ft, Dubai Marina encompasses a large canal with 3.5 km of waterfront offering access to the sea from both ends. Frilling the canal are waterfront living apartments.

The project features several high-rises with luxury apartments as well as villas set against the backdrop of a Marina. With yachts moored along the Marina and some of the city’s best dining, entertainment and leisure facilities, Dubai Marina is the first choice for the stylish and sophisticated.

Dubai Marina comprises ten districts each developed as a distinct community. Several residential towers, hotels, shopping centres and leisure amenities complement the Marina experience that is highly sought after in Dubai.

The Dubai Marina Walk, which lines the waterfront, has a selection of cosmopolitan restaurants while the palm tree lined boardwalk serves as a link between the many towers in the development, the gardens and the Marina.

Emaar has unveiled six luxurious projects at Dubai Marina – Al Majara, Al Sahab, Dubai Marina Towers, Marina Promenade, Marina Quays and Park Island. Four of them – Majara, Al Sahab, the Dubai Marina Towers and Marina Promenade – have been completed and the keys handed over to buyers, while Marina Quays and Park Island will be handed over shortly.

A key component of Dubai Marina is the 150,000 sq m Dubai Marina Mall complex which comprises the Dubai Marina Mall, a shopping and entertainment destination that is already open; The Address Dubai Marina, a 5-star premium hotel and serviced residences owned, managed and operated by Emaar Hospitality Group – and scheduled to open this year; Marina Plaza – an exclusive commercial tower; and an adjacent Gourmet Tower, a multi-storey tower dedicated to diverse cuisines.

Dubai Marina Yacht Club is the authority for all operations and berthing in the Dubai Marina canal. Continually expanding, the first of four Marinas, East Marina, was completed in summer 2007, with the second, Yacht Club Marina, on target for later this year. These will be joined by a further two marinas to ultimately host over 600 yachts ranging from 6-36 metres in length.

Currently hosting around 275 permanent pontoon berths and swing moorings dotted attractively throughout the canal, Dubai Marina Yacht Club has added to its portfolio with the prestigious Dubai Marina Yacht Club clubhouse: a striking purpose-built venue for entertaining social groups and business colleagues.

Quick facts
• Project value: US$4.36 billion
• Construction started: 2000
• Completion date: 2010-2012
• Estimated total population on completion: 75,000
• Total area: 50 million sq ft

• Total developmental area: 3.5 km
• Ten districts, each developed as a distinct community
• Total marine frontage: 11 km
• Mooring capacity for over 600 yachts
• 150,000 sq m Dubai Marina Mall complex featuring a shopping and entertainment mall – The Dubai Marina Mall, which is already open; The Address Dubai Marina hotel and serviced residences scheduled to open this year; Marina Plaza – a commercial tower, and an adjacent multi-storey Gourmet Tower, dedicated to diverse cuisines

Completed
• Dubai Marina Towers comprises six towers – the 37-storeyed Murjan and Mesk; 28-storeyed Al Mass; 20-storyed Fairooz; 24-storeyed Yass and 16-storeyed Anbar. Units are residential suites. Three of the towers are named after precious stones – Murjan, Al Mass and Fairooz; the others derive their names from Arab fragrances – Mesk, Yass and Anbar.
• Al Majara is a five-building residential complex comprising high-rise waterfront apartments adjacent to the Dubai Marina Yacht Club and overlooks the largest part of the bay.
• Al Sahab is a boutique waterfront two-tower residence superbly located opposite the Yacht Club and in proximity to Dubai Marina Mall and offers unparalleled views of the Marina. Units are residential one-, two- and three-bedroom suites and three-bedroom villas offering spectacular views over the Marina and the boardwalk.
• Marina Promenade development comprises six condominium luxury towers featuring one-, two- and three-bedroom suites and spacious villas set amidst podium level pools and gardens. The towers overlook the widest bay of Dubai Marina. The project is the most recent to be completed.
• Dubai Marina Mall featuring 40,000 sq m of net leasable space.

Handing over shortly
• Marina Quays extends 20 metres over the water assuring an unsurpassed living experience. Marina Quays has a range of retail outlets too. The Marina front towers and homes are being completed in three phases – Quay East, West and North – and comprise suites, and one-, two- and three-bedroom apartments.
• Park Island has a one-of-a-kind design with the towers integrated into a park featuring landscaped gardens and ideally positioned to offer views of the Marina from most units. The marina-front towers comprise suites completed in four phases – Blakely, Bonaire, Fairfield and Sanibel.
• The Dubai Marina Mall complex components including The Address Dubai Marina, a 5-star premium hotel and serviced residences owned, managed and operated by Emaar Hospitality Group with 442 luxury one-, two, three and four-bedroom apartments and penthouses; the 28-storey boutique freehold Marina Plaza commercial tower; and a multi-storey tower dedicated to diverse cuisines.


Dubai Marina Yacht Club
The Dubai Marina Yacht Club offers an array of marina-related services to members. The elegant clubhouse features restaurants, a marine retail shopping arcade, international yacht sales and brokers’ offices, nautical gifts store, a yachting fashion boutique and charter yachts. Membership is open to boat owners and other patrons. Built facing its own 116-berth private marina, the ground floor opens through a waterfront café/bistro situated on the boardwalk.

The dining areas within the clubhouse are managed directly by Emaar Hospitality Group and include, Aquara a seafood restaurant. Ground level food outlets include a café bistro style restaurant supplying light meals with indoor and outdoor dining options, as well as yacht catering. Members-only facilities include a private bar and terrace, a billiard and cigar lounge, and a library and chartroom overlooking the bay. Conference facilities are available for members and corporate and business users.

A modern boat repair facility will open this year. It will feature 50-tonne travel lift with a 3-tonne jib crane, wash down bay, floating work berths, spray paint sheds and administration offices. Services offered include boat hauling and launching, wash down, application of antifouling and paint, spray painting, boat building, marine fabrication and rigging and fiberglass, engine and marine electrical repairs.

The Dubai Marina Yacht Club is designed by architects Holfords with Hirsch Bedner Associates Design Consultants. It is designed to accommodate larger yachts and is laid out in a Mediterranean fashion. The Yacht Club Marina is being developed using the Bellingham system, delivered by Septech Emirates, which employs professionally developed floating concrete pontoons.

One of the Dubai Marina and Yacht Club’s exclusive features is a 43 ft American-built Carver motor yacht; Athena Dubai which is now available for luxury cruising charter yacht service.

Dubai Marina Mall Complex
The Dubai Marina Mall complex is a key aspect of the development which seamlessly blends residential, commercial and retail components.

• The Address Dubai Marina
o One of the three flagship properties of The Address Hotels + Resorts in Dubai, The Address Dubai Marina is a 5-star premium hotel directly connected to Dubai Marina Mall.
o The hotel will have 200 rooms, including 18 Club Rooms. There are an additional 57 suites with Club access and a Royal Suite overlooking the stunning Marina. All hotel rooms are located between floors 6 and 13.
o The Address Dubai Marina will feature an array of international dining options, a spa with a collection of treatments to ensure total relaxation for the body and mind, and a spacious ballroom that can accommodate up to 650 guests in banquet style, complemented by an additional 15 rooms for meetings and events. All are equipped with advanced equipment and facilities, complemented by highly skilled and dedicated staff.

• The Dubai Marina Mall
o Opened in December 2008

o The mall is Emaar Malls Group’s premier shopping and lifestyle development located in the heart of Dubai Marina.
o Has a total of 390,000 sq ft of gross leasable area.
o Features a food court, as well as a kids’ entertainment area.
o A six-screen Reel Cinemas will open shortly.
o Dubai Marina Mall is home to 160 retail outlets offering fashion and accessories, home furnishings, convenience stores and entertainment.
o The Gourmet Tower - a boutique tower with exclusive restaurants and dining facilities, within a unique architectural circular glass atrium to maximize the water-front views.
o The mall has 2,100 undercover car parking spaces to add to the convenience of shoppers.

• Marina Plaza
o Marina Plaza offers the advantage of being the only commercial offering in the Dubai Marina development, thus offering high exclusivity to customers.
o Part of the Dubai Marina Complex.
o The building is a 28-storey boutique commercial tower by the waterfront.
o Panoramic windows allowing for direct views of the Marina
o Office owners have two accesses – by car from the parking level, and through the promenade.
o The offices come with advanced telecom connectivity and other amenities such as dedicated parking lots, 24-hour security and VIP guest drop-off points.

Other Shopping and Dining facilities
Dubai Marina has extensive retail facilities and a selection of eateries. The Marina Walk, expanding over 60,000 sq ft, offers an exciting tenant mix of quality food and beverage and retail outlets.

A wide range of restaurants caters for every taste. Culinary options include American, Thai, Mediterranean, Indian, Japanese, Chinese, Lebanese, and traditional Arabian, apart from several cafes that open to the sea. The retail spread includes supermarkets, book shops and pharmacies.

Other facilities
• Facilities at Dubai Marina include children’s play areas, swimming pools, resort spas, games room, lounge facilities, sheltered parking and a multi-purpose lounge.
• Access to Dubai Marina Yacht Club with several exclusive benefits for members.
• Easy access to Dubai Internet City, Dubai Media City, Jebel Ali Free Zone, Knowledge Village, Emirates Gulf Club, Emaar Business Park and Dubai Marina Mall
• Connectivity to Dubai Metro, adding to the convenience of visitors and residents
• Nuran Marina Serviced Residences at Dubai Marina is Emaar’s first fully-serviced residence under the brand name Nuran, part of Emaar Hospitality Group.
__________________

U must grow money on trees if happy to keep to the original agreement and definitely acting very naive with your investment. But as u say, everyone is free to do as they please.

I for one think u are one of those selfish ****s who have used/is using SSC to negotiate special deals for yorself with BC etc ... cos u are not for real, at all, as an investor with your comments.

No deal. I just started with much lower expectations. I had invested before and I did not stretch myself financially and bought all the currency forward (at 7.2 AED to £ as it happens). It was easier to pay it over than try to get a UK bank to pay me interest on the AED for a few months or pay the costs of redating the payments.

It is straight forward to me if extrapolate from what has gone before
- the project will be late (I think completion 2011)
- it will complete :)
- it will look great :)
- because of the contract we signed there is little you can do about it. I got over this about 12 months ago. I had a meeting with Select with MOAF and Morrismarina and it became obvious shortly after what the end result would be

my only concern has only ever been non-completion. I am totally confident it will complete :cheers:

why bother huffing and puffing? :ohno: Best to relax I think

known for some time but thought I'd keep it quiet

I was hoping the two of you (ie not TB) would have something interesting or useful to say about BC

some photos at ground level or progress re the tram just outside BC would be great


I lost interest in the area 3.5 years ago when MH vs TT war started ... but you wouldn't know what I am talking about, would you.

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I can understand Charlie since he already got rid of the white extractor fan, but you Morris? What let you speachless?

I can understand Charlie since he already got rid of the white extractor fan, but you Morris? What let you speachless?

I got hold of the wrong end of the stick and posted a very derogatory comment about Charlie, then realised this morning I'd interpreted things the wrong way. Really sorry Charlie please accept my sincere apologies......the frustration over BC was getting to me. :hug:

I lost interest in the area 3.5 years ago when MH vs TT war started ... but you wouldn't know what I am talking about, would you.

one of those cases when I don't know what I don't know but glad of it

I'll think we'll call this one a draw and move on

might have some info next week

Found this little beauty at bhomes.com!

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Any chance of an update Imre?

Thanks!:cheers:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/mobile/pda/article.php?aid=569902

(Andy Sambidge) Friday, 9th October 2009
Average hotel room rates in Dubai are the highest in the world in October, according to a global price index published by industry website Hotels.com.

The average rate for a single night in a Dubai hotel was $226, a figure only matched by hotels in New York, the Hotels.com-RePlaxnews Hotel Price Barometer said.

Dubai was also one of only two holiday destinations out of 30 surveyed which showed a month-on-month increase in room rates.

The emirate's hotels showed a 10 percent rise compared to September while Rio de Janeiro room rates rose by three percent.

Story here...

Found this little beauty at bhomes.com!

http://www.bhomes.com/thumbs/75-BetterHomes-35F(2)_640x480_Watermarked//uf/1002/unit/263545/590932_Image.jpg

good find

I see they are putting in the pool for the hotel :)

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/mobile/pda/article.php?aid=569902

(Andy Sambidge) Friday, 9th October 2009
Average hotel room rates in Dubai are the highest in the world in October, according to a global price index published by industry website Hotels.com.

The average rate for a single night in a Dubai hotel was $226, a figure only matched by hotels in New York, the Hotels.com-RePlaxnews Hotel Price Barometer said.

Dubai was also one of only two holiday destinations out of 30 surveyed which showed a month-on-month increase in room rates.

The emirate's hotels showed a 10 percent rise compared to September while Rio de Janeiro room rates rose by three percent.

Story here...

the combination of relatively low building costs for the hotel plus high revenue (high room rates times high occupancy) is as good as it gets if you are looking to make money out of running the hotel

the doubts are about whether demand for rooms is flat and supply of new rooms is increasing therefore depressing rates and occupancy levels ie a double whammy

dubai serves the whole of the middle east market in which the so called middle class ie people with money is growing quickly. I reckon Dubai's outlook is better than most

the combination of relatively low building costs for the hotel plus high revenue (high room rates times high occupancy) is as good as it gets if you are looking to make money out of running the hotel

the doubts are about whether demand for rooms is flat and supply of new rooms is increasing therefore depressing rates and occupancy levels ie a double whammy

dubai serves the whole of the middle east market in which the so called middle class ie people with money is growing quickly. I reckon Dubai's outlook is better than most

Well thats allright then ---PHEW !!!:lol::lol:

Well thats allright then ---PHEW !!!:lol::lol:

It's a lot better than this my red friend!

Build it and they will come?

Mall of South China
http://www.pbs.org/pov/utopia/

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Well thats allright then ---PHEW !!!:lol::lol:

do you look like rooney as well?

Hi all
has anyone got any recent photos they can post as its been sometime since we seen any good ones from different views? I am in Dubai from the 28th of this month for a couple of weeks - off to F1 - and will take photos from every angle and height and also of all the surrounding area. I'll shoot a wee video too so just drop me your email and i'll send a link to it.
Any requests let me know...on photos that is.
In the meantime if anyone has anything...

Also i am trying to arrange to meet up with the higher echelons of SG and have a provisional appointment. If anyone has any good, constructive, valid points they would like answered or commented on i will happily construct a list of our behalf. There may be something i am not thinking of so would be useful for others opinion.
I would rather keep the communication off of the forum as that is not what it is intended for, so they keep telling me, so best to email me at -
baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk

Work is continuing through the night now with atleast 2 floors added since the beginning of October.

Thanks for the update

Work is continuing through the night now with atleast 2 floors added since the beginning of October.

Great - I am really looking forward to photos from Imrie.

Big thanks also to Dxbpc for the offer to take up constructure points with SG f2f.

To the many that responded to my post via email thanks. I will collate all points and draw up a list. I'll email everyone prior to my trip (28th) to let everyone see the questions etc. What I can say so far is we mainly all have the same concerns.
also My appointment is confirmed now.
Anybody else want to ask SG anything email me. I will shoot a video too and email link to everyone.
My email baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk
TB thanks for update. Any pics.

Any pics.

sorry for the delays , I will write you a pm soon :)

16/October/2009

Bay Central

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Imre - looks like West Tower has reached the 19th floor. Please let me know if this is incorrect.

Thks for the photos - you have made my friday!


Ianthy

Hello Imre,
Thanks for the photos...Looks like they are stuck @13 floor---Central Tower as its Mechanical Floor..more than a month now...

Good progress @ West tower--19th floor

Fantastic photo update imre. Well done and thanks for taking the time to do it.

Sat here having a beer over the moon that we have gone up 2 floors in 14 days wopeee

What's happening with this show apartment we have been promised?

Looking at the marina quays thread, looks like we will all get the 'regular' dce treatment...

What's happening with this show apartment we have been promised?

Looking at the marina quays thread, looks like we will all get the 'regular' dce treatment...

Heard it will ready end of October. Reason for delay is SG changed the spec after initial mock up...so i'm told.

What's happening with this show apartment we have been promised?

Looking at the marina quays thread, looks like we will all get the 'regular' dce treatment...

Still working on it;

19th October

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Got a taxi from Atlantis just to take some different photos for my all "friends" on the BC thread:)

19th October;

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Behind the scenes:)

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Thanks TB for the pics.

What a chaotic site - but progress nonetheless.

Some more;

Looks like it is not just the Hotel foundation that has not been piled, at least half of the area of the basement has been omitted.

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I think there is a lot more work needing done in the basement that SP are stating.

^^Thanks True Blue - great update. Yes, I agree hotel is missing in action.

Looks like we invested in a 3 tower project, that has turned into a 2 tower project...

Oh well, on the bright side I should be able to get some absolute cracking pictures of the hotel going up from my bedroom window!!! :lol:

Thanks true blue. really great pictures. Now we can see how far behind they really are!!

Got a taxi from Atlantis just to take some different photos for my all "friends" on the BC thread:)

19th October;



thanks TB. Your not a bad bloke after all despite what others say of you :). great photos. very helpful. glad to see progress has picked up.

nothing really has changed. onplan for handover early to mid 2011 and hotel will be 12 months later I reckon. Think finish will be better than the Point and the Torch but not 5 star

selling prices are starting to firm up for completed units. No bargains available for the Point. Most have already been rented apparently. Not surprising as great views

^^
I must say I like people that see the brighter side of things regardless of the obvious. This cracked me up - "Think finish will be better than the Point and the Torch but not 5 star". What quality can one expect from such a working site?

With regards to Hotel - It is easier to park piling machinery on site than to actual do any piling work. Wake up to the fact that there would be NO hotel.

thanks TB. Your not a bad bloke after all despite what others say of you :). great photos. very helpful. glad to see progress has picked up.

nothing really has changed. onplan for handover early to mid 2011 and hotel will be 12 months later I reckon. Think finish will be better than the Point and the Torch but not 5 star

selling prices are starting to firm up for completed units. No bargains available for the Point. Most have already been rented apparently. Not surprising as great views

Early to mid 2011 is just not realistic. I had a good look around and apart from the obvious concrete work, not much else is advanced. MEP works are minimal and of course we still have the second fix and decor as a complete non starter. Piling did look to be at a standstill but maybe due to immenent reorganisation of ground space once the suspended basement floors are poured.

The Point is in demand due to views and it's location near the Yacht club watering hole:) but offers are low ball due to the apparent quality issues.

^^
I must say I like people that see the brighter side of things regardless of the obvious. This cracked me up - "Think finish will be better than the Point and the Torch but not 5 star". What quality can one expect from such a working site?

With regards to Hotel - It is easier to park piling machinery on site than to actual do any piling work. Wake up to the fact that there would be NO hotel.

I have to agree with buster 007. I was there last week staying in Suha apartments in JBR right opposite the BC site. you could not get any closer to BC from where we were staying.Could see work going on morning to night at the residential towers.I felt not much is being done about the hotel site. Seems like a white wash and a token gesture to keep investors amused.
as FWIW said it was sold as a project of 3 towers.
SG are still messing about:ohno:

It does make me laugh when there is still a debate going on about the integrity of select group.They are just a bunch of crooks that are very unfamiliar with the truth and tell the truth only by accident.It will be ready when its ready,but in the meantime i tell anybody who will listen how s*it they are.

It does make me laugh when there is still a debate going on about the integrity of select group.They are just a bunch of crooks that are very unfamiliar with the truth and tell the truth only by accident.It will be ready when its ready,but in the meantime i tell anybody who will listen how s*it they are.

Dont forget select property - there are also a bunch lying crooks playing the game of sales arm of Select group ???


MASTERS OF MANIPULATION

It seems to me that there is a HELL OF A LOT OF WORK LEFT on the PODIUM and judging bythe way they are pumping the concrete have no plans to build that just now because the wagons are unloading in the basement ?
TB they want another 20% off me taking me to 70% personally I think the two towers might be 40% complete at present would you agree ?

As for Hotel tower we are talking at least two years til completion

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After my latest conversation withh Matthew Asplin regarding payments i wouldnt pay them another penny until they come clean on the timeframe,he stated that they were months and months behind shedule but refused to put anything in writing!The reason for that phone call was that i had paid my last instalment as per the contract but he told me that i was one of only two investors to have done so, so who is the other mug?It also just goes to show what muppets Select Property employ when in the latest update they state that the podium of the east tower started in jan 09 and that the piling works had moved on,however in the August update piling was 59% complete = 156 out of 260 and now they say 188 out of 322 complete so not only they are not progressing they are going backwards.

I was actually wondering how many have paid 90% now, I have paid 70% and have not heard peep from them regarding the fact I did not pay the 1st sep premium of 20%. Are they just letting this go now? Seems they have given up all all fronts, SP need a hero who can revive their customer service and give the investors what they have paid top dollar for!!

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That other mug would be me. 90% paid up.

ive paid 70% and not gonna pay anymore untill both towers are topped out

Great photos and thanks TB...what a guy!
Looking at it with my inexperienced eye, i would say that the Res towers are at least 2 yrs away with the hotel further behind that. I am very dissappointed to say the least. Hopefully i'll get some realistic answers from my meeting next week. I would rather know the truth than continually be treated like a fool.
Also site looks a bomb hit it which tels us a lot about the standards of work we can expect from DCE
What is your opinion on completion TB?

I can only suggest that everyone writes to the concerned parties in your agreement and notify them that you will not make further payments until you receive a RERA approved payment structure. State your reason being that the developer is clearly failing to meet his obligations regarding construction milestones and is therefore in default. Don't be bullied into believing that you may be in default or jepordising the project by non payment when you have over paid for what has been carried out so far.

A little insight into construction payments;

A contractor generally funds atleast 2 months of the construction. Work is valued on a monthly basis and prepared and submitted for evaluation on a valuation date. The client then has a further month to evaluate the submission and contest/agree the figures upto that date. Once an amount is certified the client is given around 2 weeks to make the payment. So 1 months work, then 1 months haggling then 2 weeks to pay. You are only paying for what was carried out 10 weeks ago, not what you see now!
Anyway, the update is utter bullshit. 70% of the report includes the word "Complete" which makes for good reading but "the project" is only about 20% done.

Basement structure complete. NO! About 20% done as the basement is the part you park your cars in and some of that looks like it hasn't even been piled yet. The basement is defined as the subteranean part, so includes up to street level.

Podium structure complete Dec 09. NO! It is very deceitfull to say that the tower part is the podium but lets give them 10% as that is the approx portion of the total area of the podium. Then you can argue the MEP and Cladding parts of the podium works that have not started so we go backwards to 5%

The rest of the update confirms they are falling further and further behind. Technically a default, as they have an agreement with you to provide a habitable apartment by a certain time scale.

BTW, the photo section is a disgrace, can they not co ordinate a clean up before taking pictures of the site. Most people who have seen BC site have also had a look at Silverene and end up shocked and worried at the lack of housekeeping. If they don't take care over the site, would you expect that they care about the build.

My intention is not to be unjustly negative all the time. I just want to give you guys some of the benefit of my trained eye so you can collectivley get a better ride. Being out of pocket for many years when you are not financialy prepared for the journey can finish you. If you are given realistic facts then you can plan ahead around them and be better prepared.

All the best!

I can only suggest that everyone writes to the concerned parties in your agreement and notify them that you will not make further payments until you receive a RERA approved payment structure. State your reason being that the developer is clearly failing to meet his obligations regarding construction milestones and is therefore in default. Don't be bullied into believing that you may be in default or jepordising the project by non payment when you have over paid for what has been carried out so far.

A little insight into construction payments;

A contractor generally funds atleast 2 months of the construction. Work is valued on a monthly basis and prepared and submitted for evaluation on a valuation date. The client then has a further month to evaluate the submission and contest/agree the figures upto that date. Once an amount is certified the client is given around 2 weeks to make the payment. So 1 months work, then 1 months haggling then 2 weeks to pay. You are only paying for what was carried out 10 weeks ago, not what you see now!
Anyway, the update is utter bullshit. 70% of the report includes the word "Complete" which makes for good reading but "the project" is only about 20% done.

Basement structure complete. NO! About 20% done as the basement is the part you park your cars in and some of that looks like it hasn't even been piled yet. The basement is defined as the subteranean part, so includes up to street level.

Podium structure complete Dec 09. NO! It is very deceitfull to say that the tower part is the podium but lets give them 10% as that is the approx portion of the total area of the podium. Then you can argue the MEP and Cladding parts of the podium works that have not started so we go backwards to 5%

The rest of the update confirms they are falling further and further behind. Technically a default, as they have an agreement with you to provide a habitable apartment by a certain time scale.

BTW, the photo section is a disgrace, can they not co ordinate a clean up before taking pictures of the site. Most people who have seen BC site have also had a look at Silverene and end up shocked and worried at the lack of housekeeping. If they don't take care over the site, would you expect that they care about the build.

My intention is not to be unjustly negative all the time. I just want to give you guys some of the benefit of my trained eye so you can collectivley get a better ride. Being out of pocket for many years when you are not financialy prepared for the journey can finish you. If you are given realistic facts then you can plan ahead around them and be better prepared.

All the best!

Thanks True Blue. I value your opinion.

It is always wise to look both ways when you cross the street.

Only listening to non-stop cheerleaders will get you nowhere.

:cheers:

Thanks TB! It is clear that Select's construction updates are written by their marketing people rather than a qualified engineer. saying that the basements are complete is a complete joke!

[QUOTE=True Blue;44947110]I can only suggest that everyone writes to the concerned parties in your agreement and notify them that you will not make further payments until you receive a RERA approved payment structure. State your reason being that the developer is clearly failing to meet his obligations regarding construction milestones and is therefore in default. Don't be bullied into believing that you may be in default or jepordising the project by non payment when you have over paid for what has been carried out so far.

Great advice TB - it would be really good is anyone has an e-mail address that you get a response from at RERA

But I will cerrainly go down this route with SP now

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Why the construction site looks in such a mess??? They should learn from Arabtec.

I had earlier shown interest in select properties by filling out a contact form on their website, oh boy i must have received calls every day from all over UK trying to convince me to invest, although I said no but the girl just wont give up, finally I stopped answering the calls and even then she just continued calling me every day until after a week, the menace stopped.

Just curious, is there any project from select that has been completed and handed over so far?

Cheerso

^^
The Point and also soon Royal Oceanic

Why the construction site looks in such a mess??? They should learn from Arabtec.
Cheerso

construction site always same as the project manager , he can do anything actually he is organising the works, site etc..

I would like to see his home, maybe rubbish everywhere?

If I am the developer I wouldnt pay a single dirham for this kind of rubbish for the contractor.

As a purchaser here may I suggest that the powers that be at SP/SG look at the Silverene thread at the quality of their show apartment. We have been promised a 5 star finish at BC and I for one will not be accepting anything less. Silverene has set the standard. Lets hope SG deliver thier promises.

As a purchaser here may I suggest that the powers that be at SP/SG look at the Silverene thread at the quality of their show apartment. We have been promised a 5 star finish at BC and I for one will not be accepting anything less. Silverene has set the standard. Lets hope SG deliver thier promises.

Just been looking at that thread, I hope they are looking at it as well.
I will be looking squarely at Cayan for any future investments in Dubai.

As a purchaser here may I suggest that the powers that be at SP/SG look at the Silverene thread at the quality of their show apartment. We have been promised a 5 star finish at BC and I for one will not be accepting anything less. Silverene has set the standard. Lets hope SG deliver thier promises.

i have seen Silverene thread and found nothing to compare with untill SG build show apartment we have nothing to compare

i now people like to keep this thread alive&kicking (which i love to see) but some time i see pointless argument
I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri

i have seen Silverene thread and found nothing to compare with untill SG build show apartment we have nothing to compare

i now people like to keep this thread alive&kicking (which i love to see) but some time i see pointless argument
I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri

many posters are one of the following depressives, over demanding, wingers by nature, under educated, non-investors who enjoy being a buggeration factor, invested but never visited dubai so no feel, jealous because not invested in BC, need to see a psychiatrist or doctor for valium or prosac, spent to much time in the sun or conversely too much time indoors, has had a long evening in a bar with TB talking about intricacies of kerb laying, discovered that key whingers position themselves to negotiate a private deal for themselves (it is happening on BC if you read current posts - it will be the first one if he succeeds), over stretched themselves but won't admit it, didn't see investing off plan is a speculative purchase, dullards.


hey, developer is a shyster and unconcerned about investors. SP oversold BC big style. we have been conned but it is not that bad. Handover west and central early to mid 2011. great views. will make a capital gain. 10+% rental return. relax :)

you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri^^:lol: :lol: :lol:^^

It will cost you 20% more too.

I will just be happy if they are up tp the same standard as Siverene, after a lot of doom and gloom on here it was good to see people actually pleased with their development.
Like the poster above says though, until we see our own show apartment there is no pont fretting.

i have seen Silverene thread and found nothing to compare with untill SG build show apartment we have nothing to compare

i now people like to keep this thread alive&kicking (which i love to see) but some time i see pointless argument
I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri

Mirpuri, on what basis are you suggesting BC will rent or sell at a 10% premium over Silverene. I'm not saying you are wrong, I was just wondering what you based the opinion on?

Mirpuri, on what basis are you suggesting BC will rent or sell at a 10% premium over Silverene. I'm not saying you are wrong, I was just wondering what you based the opinion on?

I think he is right but my worse fear is we dont have to wait until 2015 to get the first tenant rent it, hope not. Success of BC and SV is a win win situation for all of us, isnt it?

Cheers

I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri

No basis for such a statement. BC is destined to be of very poor quality in comparison to Silverene, and it wont be difficult for the untrained eye to judge this. Hence, rental prices in Silverene or better the rental demand for Silverene units will be much more than BC units.

Despite paying a lot more for BC units, I would say in the long run say after 3-5 years, and definitely in 10years BC units would begin to show wear and tear due to poor workmanship. Hence, a candidate to suffer a similar fate like the Oasis hotel.

No basis for such a statement. BC is destined to be of very poor quality in comparison to Silverene, and it wont be difficult for the untrained eye to judge this. Hence, rental prices in Silverene or better the rental demand for Silverene units will be much more than BC units.

Despite paying a lot more for BC units, I would say in the long run say after 3-5 years, and definitely in 10years BC units would begin to show wear and tear due to poor workmanship. Hence, a candidate to suffer a similar fate like the Oasis hotel.

What poor workmanship exactly are you talking about ??

many posters are one of the following depressives, over demanding, wingers by nature, under educated, non-investors who enjoy being a buggeration factor, invested but never visited dubai so no feel, jealous because not invested in BC, need to see a psychiatrist or doctor for valium or prosac, spent to much time in the sun or conversely too much time indoors, has had a long evening in a bar with TB talking about intricacies of kerb laying, discovered that key whingers position themselves to negotiate a private deal for themselves (it is happening on BC if you read current posts - it will be the first one if he succeeds), over stretched themselves but won't admit it, didn't see investing off plan is a speculative purchase, dullards.

hey, developer is a shyster and unconcerned about investors. SP oversold BC big style. we have been conned but it is not that bad. Handover west and central early to mid 2011. great views. will make a capital gain. 10+% rental return. relax :)

Silverene very nice finish and i for one would be happy if BC finished to that standard. Like Morris said [^^]what standard of workmanship? BC has no work yet so a moot point really. It is my understanding that the "show" apartment will be ready any day now so we will see exactly what we have paid for

On Slowhand's point about people negotiating private deals for themselves...i really can't see what people can negotiate at this stage. So far i personally have managed a couple of payment breaks on my SPP [as have most] and nothing on my LPP. I accepted the breaks as my money is in Dirhams in a Dubai account and i would rather have the interest than gift them it to SG. What other deals are there to cut? Seriously...someone enlighten me so i can get a piece of the action! Has someone achieved a discount?..an LPP break?..an extension of payments?..what? What is it you keep reffereing to Slowhand as you have mentioned it a few times now? The only point i agree with you on is the nature of off plan buying is speculative. Last time i looked though the dictionary defination of speculative did not say "allow yourself to be shafted and through hard earned cash away because you are an educated investor and visit Dubai often".
My main concerns are the finishes of the communal areas and pool decks etc. I can fix my apartmemts!!! This is not something any individual can sort out...this is something we all need to make sure is right and when the time comes and we start to see the standard of workmanship and finishing SG offer then we can relax or worry. One thing for sure is we need to make sure that these areas are right and better than SG's previous offerings.
Surely everyone agrees with this?

Mark Scott, CEO, Select Property, said his company would begin construction on Aquitainia – a fusion of "France" and "Spain" islands – by the second quarter of 2010. "With Nakheel's continuous support we are starting construction by the second quarter.

"We are in talks with a couple of contractors and we expect to be on site by Q1 or Q2 next year. We will be finalising our contractor by the end of the year," he said.

Acknowledging that the project's construction programme was nearly a year behind the original, Scott said the delay was understandable given the circumstances and that savings had been passed on to customers.

"The delay wasn't that bad. Some work on The World did slow but it is now gaining pace. I think that there are 20 other islands starting construction next year so it's very exciting.

"We are excited that the people left developing on The World will be developers and not speculators and that is good for everyone."

Select Property anticipate their build programme to take up to four years and have estimated construction completion by the end 2013.

"Our plan is to build out the development and then hand it over. It is difficult to phase such a project. An island needs to be constructed in its entirety," he said.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/2009/10/Pages/18102009/10192009_033cd4dedb014efca1a2ba1ef520ad68.aspx


I am dem sure that BC will be one of the best Development...and its far better in terms of location and view-compare with silverlane...

and about quality..they are taking their time for show Apartment --I am sure it will be best..

Also by looking at 3 pictures posted @ Silverlane thread, you can not judge overall quality...

i agree that Silverlane has a reliable contractor compare to BC but i am sure DEC will catch up with quality sooner or later...

thats my opinion..........as i have to be positive all the time...or its bad for my health..:nuts:

i have seen Silverene thread and found nothing to compare with untill SG build show apartment we have nothing to compare

i now people like to keep this thread alive&kicking (which i love to see) but some time i see pointless argument
I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene.
mirpuri

"sometime I see pointless argument"

And then you go on to say;

"I tell you one thing you alway will get 10% more rent and 10% more selling price on BC then Silverene."

^^:nuts:

If you are going to make statments like that try to have a bit of knowledge to allow you to make a reasoned argument first. If you were up to speed with the rental market in Dubai you would be aware the The Point (which has much better views than BC) is currently renting at the bottom range of the market.

Latest data on Dubai rentals from speaking to 3 agents a week ago;

Average rental 1 bed in The point by SP = 75,000AED
Average rental 1 bed in Dorrabay by Cayan = 80,000AED
Average rental 1 bed in Jewels by Cayan = 105,000AED

Cayan developments have great high class facilities with luxury finished lobbies and large pools/gymns. People are prepared to pay extra for the 5 star feel.

Not sure the "average" in The Point is 75k. Would mean there are some units priced below this and don't think this is the case. But I'm sure you have more knowledge than me TB about rentals so I'll take it that your figures are correct. :)

How come such a small difference between Point and Dorrabay then ?

Can anybody tell me where Silverlane is, never heard of it ? :dunno:

***

slowhands the one whos cut a deal with SP and thinks everyone else has aswell.. :lol:

Read this and remember it in 2012 when you get your keys:

DCE = one and same shit finish and quality, no matter how long they take :bash:

SP/SG are a punch of Lying, cheating, incompetent T**ts and will never change. If it takes them that long to get one apartment ready to show, God only knows what the rest will look like or how long it will take them to do it.

Anger and insults on here are aimed at the wrong people, try to be proactive and get as much of a decent finish agreed now before its too late and it becomes a matter of fact like the other developments SG/DCE built. They have probably bought all materials by now so you can only hope for a little better finish by implementing some better supervision and management.

Good Luck to you all :cheers:

Not sure the "average" in The Point is 75k. Would mean there are some units priced below this and don't think this is the case. But I'm sure you have more knowledge than me TB about rentals so I'll take it that your figures are correct. :)

How come such a small difference between Point and Dorrabay then ?

Can anybody tell me where Silverlane is, never heard of it ? :dunno:

Dorrabay 1 beds are a mixture of large units facing the bridge and small units facing the marina. The small units are only 650-699ft2. That is why they don't make higher rental figures. At the begining of the year Dorrabay was fetching 120,000AED easily.

I was told about a unit owner in Jewels who walked into the agents office and asked to market his 1 bed for 85,000pa unfurnished. The agent put it on the market and was inundated with potential tenants. By the end of the week they signed for 100,000AED 1 cheque.:)

Glad to hear other people have the same opinion of SP and SG, only i wouldnt call them t**ts as they are actually quite nice and usefull.On a more positive note i was quite pleased with the most recent pictures as at least they showed some work going on! it did look a shit hole though.

many posters are one of the following depressives, over demanding, wingers by nature, under educated, non-investors who enjoy being a buggeration factor, invested but never visited dubai so no feel, jealous because not invested in BC, need to see a psychiatrist or doctor for valium or prosac, spent to much time in the sun or conversely too much time indoors, has had a long evening in a bar with TB talking about intricacies of kerb laying, discovered that key whingers position themselves to negotiate a private deal for themselves (it is happening on BC if you read current posts - it will be the first one if he succeeds), over stretched themselves but won't admit it, didn't see investing off plan is a speculative purchase, dullards.


hey, developer is a shyster and unconcerned about investors. SP oversold BC big style. we have been conned but it is not that bad. Handover west and central early to mid 2011. great views. will make a capital gain. 10+% rental return. relax :)

What a load of old bollox --:lol::lol:

[QUOTE=mackie1964;45118127]Read this and remember it in 2012 when you get your keys:

DCE = one and same shit finish and quality, no matter how long they take :bash:

SP/SG are a punch of Lying, cheating, incompetent T**ts and will never change. If it takes them that long to get one apartment ready to show, God only knows what the rest will look like or how long it will take them to do it.



You got my vote Mackie on SP/SG, but my personal expression would be a lot stronger than T**ts.

Thanks to DxbGo for all of these pics. :applause:

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DXBGO and FWIW great pics. Thanks.

Found a more recent one taken yesterday of Marina Quays that has BC in background with BCW at around floor 23/24.

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If anyone is at the Yacht club can you point a camera in direction of BC to get a feel for views...thanks.

DXBGO and FWIW great pics. Thanks.

Found a more recent one taken yesterday of Marina Quays that has BC in background with BCW at around floor 23/24.

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If anyone is at the Yacht club can you point a camera in direction of BC to get a feel for views...thanks.

Will do so soon. in dubai from 14th Nov . will get some from Yatch Club as you wanted.

:cheers:

approx height of west tower when toped out...

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^^Could you do the same to the central tower? Would be good to see it virtually finished!

another approx height of topped out

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another approx height of topped out

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very nice - looks like we are nearly halfway then?

Beppe, you could work for the updates department, all you need to add now is the basement structure and part of the podium and we have the pictures that match the progress report:laugh:

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Very good news here the bus stop very close.

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When was the last time they added a floor to the central tower?

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The far crane is the main crane on the central tower. The slip form will appear inthis area in a couple more floors.

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^^Thanks CBP, appreciate the time and effort that lot must have taken. :applause:

What's your view on when handover can take place for investors/residents?

Also, the hotel tower looks like nothing is happening. I am guessing that it will be handed over at least a year after the other two towers have had people move in.

I really hope I'm wrong and SP/SG achieve their own project timeline, but I can't see it happening.

Fantastic Photos and update CBP. Thanks for that. Good to see at least one of mine physically there now.
I am on my way to airport [going to F1 this weekend] literally as i write so if you are around i would like to a chance to see The Point...and maybe grab a wee beer!

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Very good news here the bus stop very close.

:lol: I like it!!

I know everytime I make an observation, certain people like to call me mister negative. So get ready.

If you look at the 2 towers under construction you will see that there is very little happening internally with the fit out. Look around the show apartment, ventilation ducts visible in some. Blockwork incomplete in most and no sign of plastering, first fix plumbing (water heaters etc) or electric conduits. So whats the problem? Space!!

There is no free space on the site due to the piling still ongoing over 50% of the site (it wasn't just the hotel that wasn't piled, most of the basement had been omitted also). No trades can make a meaningfull start as they have no unloading or storage areas. This will not improve until they have a podium or basement to store deliveries.

Despite what others think, I still think you are in for lengthy delays with or without the hotel. Sorry for being the messenger but it is just glaringly obvious to me.

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what floor was this taken from? thanks

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Beppe 16th Al Fattan

Higher surely, maybe 26th.

seemed higher too me too

Higher surely, maybe 26th.

Sorry it was 24th. The pic from the 16th was post 4918.

Thank you very much CBP for another great update...

i m sure above 15 the floor will have a fantastic view....It will be amazing to have full Yacht club and most of will have partial sea view as well...

Surely one of the best location in Marina..

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Site's getting tidier:lol::lol:

cheers cbp finally got a big lump of concrete to show for my money maybe one day in a year far far away we will get windows hope to see you for a drink one day:cheers:

I dont remember that I posted or not but 2 new board in Dubai Marina , Tram Station 1 and 2 , good news one for behind the Bay Central , second one is behind The Point.

So the metro access wont be a problem from 2012 (tram completion date) in those areas.

still no idea which will be before , the tram or the BC ,I just guess True Blue will say the tram:)

29/October/2009

Bay Central

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Think I might stay here on my next visit!

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[QUOTE=FWIW;45373473]Think I might stay here on my next visit!

can you see Bay Central from there? :)

^^Nah, I just like looking at JBR!!! :lol:

You will be able to see BC from this hotel its bang across the water. sunny I will try to post you some pics later.

[QUOTE=FWIW;45373473]Think I might stay here on my next visit!

can you see Bay Central from there? :)

the best place to stay to look at BC is Suha serviced apartments . which is Sadaf 3 building on JBR. Just have to ask for marina views.can be booked thru MINC serviced apartments.
:banana:

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the best place to stay to look at BC is Suha serviced apartments . which is Sadaf 3 building on JBR. Just have to ask for marina views.can be booked thru MINC serviced apartments.
:banana:

Thanks for the info!

I am hoping that residents of the address can put some pressure on SP/SG via Emaar to hurry up the construction of BC!! I am also hoping that SP/SG notice the quality of the 5* hotel and try and ensure we get similar quality in BC.

I am optimistic this morning! Was on the :cheers:'s last night!:banana:

^^There´s a new one we had not thought of, leave it up to the residents of the hotel across the water to get us our 5 star finishings....Why didn´t I think of that....:bash:
Please let me know what you were drinking last night, I need some:nuts:

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Very nice pictures Mark.

BTW have you guys seen this:
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/572037-dubai-properties-chairman-arrested

It was posted in the investment thread, but I think all BC investors should read it.

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FWIW I hope you can get a bit of an idea as to yatch club view from this pic.

Very nice - I hope my neighbours let me into their apartments to have a look at this view. In return I can show them the Al Fattan towers! :lol:

^^ funny :lol:

From the Atlantic thread:

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Visited all of SG's completed projects this morning and was really dissapointed by standard of finish. The Point in particular is very bad and i would class it as a bottom end unit. I used to complain about my Marina Diamond apts but they are superior compared to the offering at the point...and my MD's cost me 600 per sq/ft.
I think BC WILL be better as they will learn however...
Anyone wants a full account of my trip email me as i don't want to post it in here - baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
Mark

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Visited all of SG's completed projects this morning and was really dissapointed by standard of finish. The Point in particular is very bad and i would class it as a bottom end unit. I used to complain about my Marina Diamond apts but they are superior compared to the offering at the point...and my MD's cost me 600 per sq/ft.
I think BC WILL be better as they will learn however...
Anyone wants a full account of my trip email me as i don't want to post it in here - baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
Mark



People keep assuming that they will learn, but it is the same with DCE everywhere. Quays owners are disgusted with the quality they have been offered. Rumblings are the same at PI.

Did you get to see the sample apartment at BC? What about the video, will the DVD be out in time for xmas?

Cheers

Excited forumer!

Did you get to see the sample apartment at BC? What about the video, will the DVD be out in time for xmas?

Cheers

Excited forumer!

It seems you want to invest here ! :cheers:

Visited all of SG's completed projects this morning and was really dissapointed by standard of finish. The Point in particular is very bad and i would class it as a bottom end unit. I used to complain about my Marina Diamond apts but they are superior compared to the offering at the point...and my MD's cost me 600 per sq/ft.
I think BC WILL be better as they will learn however...
Cheers
Mark


Quality at Marina Diamonds were not bad apart from the exposed gas pipes on the kitchen wall. However, if u say the quality at MD's are much better than the Point, I wonder how much apt at the Point are currently going for. Perhaps, the views from the Point would compensate.

"I think BC WILL be better as they will learn however..." - Guess slowhands has convinced you. Wishing thinking I would say ... . Look at it this way, despite investors voicing their dissatisfaction of having gas pipes visible on their kitchen wall in MD1, the developer went on to repeat the same in MDII - VI. Bottomline - BC would be no different in quality.

Where's Slowhand gone ?? Come back we need your positive comments to balance all this negativity.

Quality at Marina Diamonds were not bad apart from the exposed gas pipes on the kitchen wall. However, if u say the quality at MD's are much better than the Point, I wonder how much apt at the Point are currently going for. Perhaps, the views from the Point would compensate.

"I think BC WILL be better as they will learn however..." - Guess slowhands has convinced you. Wishing thinking I would say ... . Look at it this way, despite investors voicing their dissatisfaction of having gas pipes visible on their kitchen wall in MD1, the developer went on to repeat the same in MDII - VI. Bottomline - BC would be no different in quality.

I did say however...and it is a big however!

Where's Slowhand gone ?? Come back we need your positive comments to balance all this negativity.

Better the show apartment than slowhand .. :)

Prime location

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Great Photo..

No Dought, BC is holding a prime positon in Marina. Let hope it can match the quality with Location..

i am sure they will

Wonderful Picture...Thanks beppe

Better the show apartment than slowhand .. :)

agree with that

Great Photo..

No Dought, BC is holding a prime positon in Marina. Let hope it can match the quality with Location..

i am sure they will

Wonderful Picture...Thanks beppe

In Your Dreams, Quality by Select Group ? you are having a laugh :lol::lol:

I did say however...and it is a big however!

Hi Mark, my name is jason kendal my apartment is 4603 in the central tower, i would appreciate any information you have after your recent trip to Dubai.
My email is kendal.j@sky.com

Kind regards

Jason

People keep assuming that they will learn, but it is the same with DCE everywhere. Quays owners are disgusted with the quality they have been offered. Rumblings are the same at PI.

Did you get to see the sample apartment at BC? What about the video, will the DVD be out in time for xmas?

Cheers

Excited forumer!

the more miserable he gets, the more excited he is. What a state he must get in to pop his cork! :)

Everyone on 15 and above in west and all in east will have great view of Yacht Club.

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from main street

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TRAM station being built in front of Hotel Tower

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Podium at level 5

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West tower from Jumeirah walk at level 22

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just a view looking up from bottom of marina at Damac The Waves building

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Access to/from marina now in operation in front of Dorrabay.

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Weekend street market om Jumeirah walk...mobbed and real family atmosphere

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Any news on this show apartment folks???

People keep assuming that they will learn, but it is the same with DCE everywhere. Quays owners are disgusted with the quality they have been offered. Rumblings are the same at PI.

Did you get to see the sample apartment at BC? What about the video, will the DVD be out in time for xmas?

Cheers

Excited forumer!

I am not assuming...i can tell everyone for a fact that the quality IS better.

I am not assuming...i can tell everyone for a fact that the quality IS better.

^^Well that is good news.

Have they stolen any ideas from Silverene by any chance:lol:

That would explain the delay. Bloody Cayan holding up BC :):runaway:

Pics from Silverene thread;
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Thanks JSmith6

Hi

I probally ask this question every 2 weeks - so please excuse my impatience but what level/floor is the West Tower at?

thks

Ianthy

^^23ish for west, 16ish for central tower and ofcourse -5 for hotel tower.

thks for the quick reply.

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TGJ3Up-nCiA

Great..
Thank for your effort...Great...Tram Station is just door step of the BC...

looking @ DXBPCs pics most of will get Marina and sea view...i think its perfect location

Lot of activity around Hotel tower....positive news

I m sure quality of the BC will be far far bettet..if anyone has dought, wait untill the show apartment...

I am sure there are people who finds a fault in 7 Star Burj Hotel.. BC is Just 5 Star

Burj Al Arab is self proclaimed 7 star, no one has officially awarded the rating. Like most apartments in Dubai, they have no official star rating so you can self proclaim BC if you want, Select won't object.

Oasis beach tower (Al Fattan Towers) is only 4 star! They have lovely bathrooms and nice kitchens, onsite night clubs bars and restaurants :)

I am not assuming...i can tell everyone for a fact that the quality IS better.

Can you tell us how you know this please?
It would put my mind at rest.

DxBPC, thank you for your report..very exhaustive and useful.

Anyone is aware if 13th floor on West Tower is a mechanical floor?

Distance between floors seems wider in comparison with other ones.

Thanks DxbPC. We really appreciate your efforts here...

Nice work Mark - so good of you to get Ewan McGregor to do the voice over! :lol:

Nice work Mark - so good of you to get Ewan McGregor to do the voice over! :lol:

I was going more for Sean Connery

I was going more for Sean Connery

:applause:

And thankyou for your vids and pics Mark - they re greatly appreciated as is the voice over :lol:

Hi
I am looking for the actual measurements of the apartment - I have the plans and layout plus total size 146sqm but no actual room sizes. Please can anyone help - I need the info for A1 Marina Suite West Tower.
thks

Ianthy

Tram station

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Tram station

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great pics and video. Tram stop just outside BC is great news

just need progress to speed up. West tower should top out Feb 2010? with central tower much later as more floors

i think the views from BC and location are second to none.

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i think the views from BC and location are second to none.



I am buying two apartments in central tower one at each side at front overlooking the marina. Views should be great. Also think those from the Point are great as well as evidenced by CBP's view.

BCD just need to get a move on.

Mark, well done for all your efforts, its very time consuming we all know.

RERA last inspection date was july 09

i can see another payment break coming in jan 10

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Update from my trip sent to everyone that contacted me...127 apt owners.
Anybody else want a copy email me at baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk
Include your apt number and building so i know you are an interested investor...

If you contacted me this morning by PM or at baycentral@blueyonder.co.uk i have since included you in my trip update.

Love this photo...

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To all that contacted me regarding my update from trip to Dubai. I didn't realize how many people read this forum and was overwhelmed by the response in my inbox. I will get it to you at some point soon.
Thanks...

can anyone tell me how much the maintenance costs are roughly on apartments at the minute,by the way best info around for update on the building keep it up much appreciated

can anyone tell me how much the maintenance costs are roughly on apartments at the minute,by the way best info around for update on the building keep it up much appreciated

They are currently 12 to 15 dhs/sqf in SG developements which includes chiller fees too.

They are currently 12 to 15 dhs/sqf in SG developements which includes chiller fees too.

Actually in The POINT it is 15 dhs/psf plus 2dhs/psf for capital reserve fund
(AKA SG Slush fund) --mine cost me 47 k aed this year

Marriott group did a big ress release in Emirates 24/7 recently. They go into very specific detail on a lot of their planned projects in the ME region particularly the UAE.

Apparantly 21 hotles by 2013 in the UAE. They mention interests in Dubai Marina too.

I'm surprised that they didnt sieze the oportunity to plug their up and coming Renaissance offering at Bay Central.

Worth a read for interested parties.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/2009/11/Pages/11112009/11122009_9d017826afbf477ea625de301ae49a20.aspx

Probaly because 3 years from launch the piling is still not done and they've no idea when it will open.

Probaly because 3 years from launch the piling is still not done and they've no idea when it will open.

Nail on the head:)

3 of the 5 years used up and still no construction, do you think they are the type of forward thinking company that hangs around waiting on someone else to perform.

Marriot have taken control of the Harbour Hotel and it would not surprise me if they end up with The Address also. Bonnington at JLT up for sale as are a few others.

I think SP need to get a move on or else! Mind you Holiday Inn Express would do a bomb in this district:)

thanks for the info much appreciated

^^This is a 5* development. Forget about the 15AED/sqft like the Point and Torch. You will pay far more for quality here I am told :)

^^This is a 5* development. Forget about the 15AED/sqft like the Point and Torch. You will pay far more for quality here I am told :)

It won't be 5 star. Run of the mill standard Dubai finish. Think Marina Heights or Dorrabay for finish. Unless we have a different idea of 5 star!

The link with the Hotel could push the maintenance fees up quite a bit. Any 5 star Hotel outfit will want the place looking spik and span 24/7.

I think you would have to budget minimum AED20/ft

The link with the Hotel could push the maintenance fees up quite a bit. Any 5 star Hotel outfit will want the place looking spik and span 24/7.

I think you would have to budget minimum AED20/ft

Can anyone remind me of the size of a one bed central tower-- this all seems expensive per sq foot to me !??

anyone pictures please

XlsK-z_5OT0

Thanks to 'Lover of Dubai'

.. anyone spot BayC ? :)

anyone pictures please
hi all staying in dubai right across the BC site. site is much tidy. lot of pouring going on last 3 nights.taken some good pics. but unable to post them on SCC. will do on return to uk next week.
waiting to see if they will pour to complete the 25th floor on west tower tonight.
I am sort of impressed by the work going on. still the podium work seems to be slow.i am not an expert on construction but will post pics next week.

any request for any other pics PM me by tomorrow am.
Off to Yatch club for a drink.
:cheers:

Good to hear progress is continuing. Thks in advance for the photos.

ianthy

Thanks to 'Lover of Dubai'

.. anyone spot BayC ? :)


It all looks very swish. Very little traffic etc. I could not spot BC - but that's not to say it's not there. Anyone else see it?

Maintenance charges;

Had a look on Selects website and just noted that the apartments in this development are all serviced by the 5 star hotel. In that case you should expect service charges in the region of AED35/ft.


Bay Central

Studio Apartments start from
AED 907,611

Situated at the very heart of Dubai Marina, Bay Central brandishes the most exclusive plot on the marina opposite the new Marina Mall and Motor Yacht Club gaining its status as one of the most sought after property projects in the district.

A mixed-use development comprising three towers, two luxury residential towers (Bay West and Bay Central) and a 5-star hotel (Bay East), Bay Central boasts highly desirable waterfront properties, all of which are fully serviced by the internationally renowned 5 star hotel.
This exclusive, striking development presents a choice of studios, 1, 2, 3 and 4 bedroom properties, each designed to the highest specification. Together with its superb location, exquisite properties and 5 star A La Carte services available to all residents and owners, Bay Central is recognised as the height of marina living.

Located close to a stop on the newly launched Dubai Metro, Bay Central’s ideal location is ideal for commuters and perfect for visitors looking to explore more of Dubai. Further, its desirability and benefits of a hotel is set to generate an increased rental demand.

Maintenance charges;

Had a look on Selects website and just noted that the apartments in this development are all serviced by the 5 star hotel. In that case you should expect service charges in the region of AED35/ft.

Good effort in your new wind up...Where are you going with this? Is it maintenance fees? Are you trying to imply the hotel is now serviced apartments? Why were you on Selects site? Have you nothing better to do with your time?
All of the apartments are fully serviced by the hotel in that they can use the facilities and get room service etc. If you want maids service and linen change this can be paid for as an extra.
But then again you have been reading this blog for several years now so you would know that. You would also know that it is just clever marketing by Select in their choice of words. Give them a call and ask them to explain the add. You would aslo know that the price is based on a 15yr payment total under sharia finance. Furthermore they do tell you that the hotel WILL BE 1 YEAR behind the apartments and it is a hotel and it is The Rennaisance.
With all the time on your hands a simple phone call could have clarified all of that for you and saved you the effort of posting on a site where you have no interest other than to wind people up. Alternatively if you have factual information based on any of your conspiracies post it and genuinely help your fellow investors!
Oh you forgot to mention Silverene and Infintiy are great and Cayan and Arabtec are the bestest!!
Too much time on your hands it would seem!

^^

Just sales bully shit .. BC - 5* - please.

Good effort in your new wind up...Where are you going with this? Is it maintenance fees? Are you trying to imply the hotel is now serviced apartments? Why were you on Selects site? Have you nothing better to do with your time?
All of the apartments are fully serviced by the hotel in that they can use the facilities and get room service etc. If you want maids service and linen change this can be paid for as an extra.
But then again you have been reading this blog for several years now so you would know that. You would also know that it is just clever marketing by Select in their choice of words. Give them a call and ask them to explain the add. You would aslo know that the price is based on a 15yr payment total under sharia finance. Furthermore they do tell you that the hotel WILL BE 1 YEAR behind the apartments and it is a hotel and it is The Rennaisance.
With all the time on your hands a simple phone call could have clarified all of that for you and saved you the effort of posting on a site where you have no interest other than to wind people up. Alternatively if you have factual information based on any of your conspiracies post it and genuinely help your fellow investors!
Oh you forgot to mention Silverene and Infintiy are great and Cayan and Arabtec are the bestest!!
Too much time on your hands it would seem!

No need to be so nasty, someone asked the question and I was just trying to be of assistance.