#UNDER C: BAY CENTRAL, 36F+36F+50F Res+Hotel, 155m+180m+155m

[dubaiflo]

As usually, i have the insider information here:

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Developer: Dubai Select

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[LMC]

location??

[DG]

skinny and nice looking towers :)

[Naz UK]

location??

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[LMC]

^^:okay:
Thankss

[Morrismarina]

This has got to be one of the greatest spots in the Marina, right in the middle. Will be interested to see the prices at launch.
Good luck Naz with your job in Dubai .........lucky bugger. :) :)

[Naz UK]

Thank's mate!. ...and as a special treat to you Morris....here you go...
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[Morrismarina]

Cheers Naz.........now I spend all weekend deciding which one I want !!! :)

[AltinD]

Not bad, and I don't see anything in the design that must be sacrificed in the name of easier to build. ;)

[Dubai_Steve]

Sleek looking towers, location is fantastic.

Will be a hotel with 2 connecting residential towers then.

I wonder which hotel chain this could be? Apparently a 5 * famous international chain.

[Naz UK]

^^ You're not gona be disappointed! ;)

[malec]

Cool towers. Nice and sleek, a bit hong kongish as well (in a good way though)

[scorpion]

love these! :)

[Krazy]

meh

[Naz UK]

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[dubaiflo]

nice 3 Bdrs, a bit small though.

[THE DUBAI GUYS]

those look really good! nice work 'flo!

R

[arfie]

Have to give Dubai Select credit all their developments in the marina are in a fantastic spot. Even though something might be built in front of the Torch people still should get very decent views of the marina from it.

With the 15 yr payment plan expect this to sell out pretty fast.

[Naz UK]

^^ And the safety net of the escrow account... just one of many "firsts" for Dubai Select. Well done to them.

[Dubai_Steve]

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[Dubai_Steve]

Back to the tower...

Take a look at the roof of the central tower. Looks to me like this may be the location of some of the 3 restaurants and bars ?

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[Krazy]

do u realize we now have almost no unknown plots for this strip behind JBR... I would say more than 85% of marina is known to us now

[Dubai_Steve]

Yes wont be much more to talk about the Marina then. We will have to move on to speculation about the waterfront :lol:

[Krazy]

^^ knowing nakheel.. our kids will be discussing that.. or in some cases grand kids :lol:

[Naz UK]

^^ Speak for yourself Samir! Some of us are only as young as 31! :runaway:

[Krazy]

the words "thirty one" and "young" dont go together ;)

[Dubai_Steve]

Approximation of marina view from BayWest tower penthouse and topfloor 3 beds.

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[Morrismarina]

Great photo Steve, many thanks.

Might be a really stupid question I know but.......would there be any possibility of anything being built in front of BC ?? Haven't seen the site plans at all, only the architect's impression picture which shows it butts up to the waters edge all around, but so did The Torch picture. And the plot does seem rather large for just one development. (Just trying to cover everything off as much as I can before signing on the dotted line). :tongue4:

[Dubai_Steve]

No chance of that. DS bought all 3 plots (that make up the bay central plot) and hotel would'nt proceed if that were the case.

[Morrismarina]

Thanks that makes me feel better, wouldn't want to pay for a Marina view then find it's compromised.

[dubaiflo]

there won't be a building in front of these.

anyway, the shot showing the marina view is nice but i say it again, i think anything above 30th floor is not that great when it comes to everything other than sea/palm view.

a 20th floor marina view is better imo.

[Dubai_Steve]

Anyone know if the large photos on the Al Fattan towers are permanent. As nice as he is, I am not sure if I want Sheik Mohammed staring at me in my bedroom.

[dubaiflo]

^^ :lol:

i am not sure but it could be.

anyway this inland view is also quite nice imo. maybe even better than the partial sea view.

[Dubai_Steve]

I think it is permanent. Why was it put there anyway?

Maybe sea view should be renamed Sheik Mohammed view !

[Dubai-Lover]

this project is quite nice
but from the name i expected something big

added to emporis

[Dubai_Steve]

Is there one pool per tower or are the east & west towers sharing the same one between them? The central hotel tower will no doubt have its own larger pool (not allowed for use by the residential towers)

[Morrismarina]

DS have told me that each tower will have it's own separate facilites, swimming pool, gym etc.

[Krazy]

Ok I just got done cleaning the crap from this thread... please RESPECT the bloody forum rules

The next person who talks about payments, mortgage interest rates, which toilet fittings, color of ur curtains, the angle of the sun and moon on your walls or ne other info that only YOU as an investor is interested in and NO ONE ELSE.. you'll be brigged for two weeks.

Please reserve this thread for construction related discussions ONLY. For all your other worries, use this thread

http://www1.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=368157

[dubaiflo]

^^ i agree of course as u know.

but i don't mind the "views and sun" discussions, i don't know why but i think they have a lot to do with surrounding developments and the position of the tower itself.

[Krazy]

sure I let it be for a while but when it gets to a point where no one really seems to be giving a fuck abt forum etiquette.. it's pretty much no to everything other than construction related discussions.. these things have now had a strong tendency to go from "ok" to bad to worse..

[boni1981]

Dear krazy, sorry if i've post something wrong, but i don't know. I don't speak about payment, only ask how will be the interior for the apartment, the quality ecc.
if i can't post this, tell me please what can i post and where is directed this thread.
Sorry again....

[Krazy]

^^ check post 38

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Basically just don't mention the C word (*ur*ains) - drives him Krazy and no numbers allowed unless its the building height or number of floors.

[Morrismarina]

Okay Krazy.... I won't mention the angle of the sun again or indeed any other members of the Solar System.
By the way I've just reserved a one bed "sun facing" Marina view on 16th floor. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Krazy]

^^ congratulations

[Morrismarina]

Many thanks :rock:

[Dubai_Steve]

Completion date is September 2009. Is this realistic ?

[Yez_Plz]

Hi steve

From what other have said - yes but allow for upto a years delay before signing up - as i have been warned!

[boni1981]

Semptember 2009? and maybe one year more? When do you think the costruction start? I think that before they have to sell a lot of apartments.
i think that they take around 2 years to built, so if they start on mid 2007 the costruction should be ready on mid 2009, not more.

[Yez_Plz]

Just been speaking to DS on this subject and they have explained that because the Hotel will be marketing themselves for opening sept 2009 then there is an even greater requirement / incentive to complete on time. Also, you wouldn't want to open a hotel and have 2 towers immediately next to you still in cobnstruction. (Although to be fair the whole city is a constrauction zone at the moment!!)

[Yez_Plz]

Semptember 2009? and maybe one year more? When do you think the costruction start? I think that before they have to sell a lot of apartments.
i think that they take around 2 years to built, so if they start on mid 2007 the costruction should be ready on mid 2009, not more.

Boni, yes this was the other thing i forgot to mention. DS said there is talk of sooner completion but they have to cover themselves. The piling is apparently due to start within a month. This process takes ages as i'm sur eyou know but once they get into the brick build, they roughly do a floor a week (+ then the internal stuff post build completion).

[Yez_Plz]

BTW, the company Ds use is Dubai Civil Engineering and they have completed 7 other towers so far - although not sure which ones. Could investigate for reference I suppose....

[Morrismarina]

Seems DS would have a very good relationship with Dubai Civil Engineering (DCE) as they are the builders for The Torch and The Point. Also National Engineering Bureau (NEB) are the architects for Bay Central and of course they were engaged for Torch and Point projects as well.
Not sure if Zublin will be doing the piling work (they did TT) but stands a good chance.
I know DCE and NEB are well known to each other as DCE expressed a wish to work with NEB on TT rather than Katab & Alami the original architects.
If BC gets Zublin, DCE and NEB on the project then should be finished by Sept 09.

[boni1981]

Thant's great. we'll wait until 11 nov to know wich hotel brach will be!!
And we wait for costruction start.
the central tower i think that will be the highest on central marina.

[Morrismarina]

DS were advertsing BC in The Times (UK) today, quarter page ad stating launch 11th November.

[boni1981]

Morrismania, are you able to post the times page? Something about the costruction, the hight?

[Morrismarina]

Sorry, I did not buy the newspaper saw it on the reception desk where I work. There was not real info just a picture, the same one at the start of this thread showing the three towers. A few words such as in central position in Marina, apartments from £75,950 (some figure like this) and that it's part of a 5 star hotel complex. Launch on 11th Nov with a phone number and the BC website which is www.baycentraldubai.com

[boni1981]

Thanks anyway morris. we wait 11 november. There are a lot of thinghs to know again (hight, hotel name, facilities, costruction materials, completion date ecc).

[Morrismarina]

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[Morrismarina]

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[carpetking]

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[Morrismarina]

Overhead impression courtesy of Dubai Select :)

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[wiki]

good, another proyect for dubai,amazing

[carpetking]

Thanks Morrismarina :)

[dubaiflo]

so one pool for every tower.

[carpetking]

Yes..i agree with you Flo :)

[Dubai_Steve]

What is the big circular thing near the access road ?

[dubaiflo]

fountain probably.

on the other hand, marinascape has a similar dome , the gym and indoor pool will be underneath.

[Dubai_Steve]

It seems that the residential towers are completely separate entities to the hotel tower. Will residents share any of the hotel facilities at all?

[Morrismarina]

DS told me the facilities are separate with each tower having it's own pool, gym etc. However the advantage of having the hotel is the owners have the hotel right on their doorstep, will be free to enter the hotel (although this would apply to any hotel in Dubai) and use facilities there such as restaurants, bars, also convenient for catching a taxi as these will stop right outside hotel. Seems that it's not a case that owners will be treated same as hotel guests. However being so close and on the same complex IMO would still have great advantages, probably not so much for long term rentals but certainly for holiday lets.

[GreenKiwi]

Just looked at this thread and Krazy's profane language at #40. The English language allows educated people to get their message accross without resorting to profanity. You want to tidy up the thread but I suggest you tidy up your language in the process.

[boni1981]

Somebody know if for the electricity they will use a solar pannels, maybe on the roof terrace. I don't see solar pannels on the other costruction and i don't know why. this is a good idea to get electricity as free.

[Dubai_Steve]

DS told me the facilities are separate with each tower having it's own pool, gym etc. However the advantage of having the hotel is the owners have the hotel right on their doorstep, will be free to enter the hotel (although this would apply to any hotel in Dubai) and use facilities there such as restaurants, bars, also convenient for catching a taxi as these will stop right outside hotel. Seems that it's not a case that owners will be treated same as hotel guests. However being so close and on the same complex IMO would still have great advantages, probably not so much for long term rentals but certainly for holiday lets.

Access to the residential towers looks like it will be by driving into the separate car park and taking the elevator from the car park up to your room. Will the elevator also stop at the hotel lobby floor or will you need to go outside and into the main hotel entrance to access the hotel lobby ? It would be best if you could access the hotel lobby directly from the residential tower lobby.

[Morrismarina]

I can see why there needs to be some separation between the hotel and residential towers otherwise purchasers would effectively be buying rooms directly inside a hotel which would be great but I can't see any hotel signing up to this. Hotel would need some control, would mean less scope for them to sell their own rooms and also other issues may arise such as health and safety etc.
However this development does seem to me as close as you can get without actually purchasing a serviced apartment.
Be nice if the hotel access was as you suggest Steve, might be worth giving DS a call and asking them ?? If not then I guess that access could simply be by walking out of the residential lobby onto the road for a few metres then into the hotel lobby - not much of a problem.
(By the way Steve got your PM and replied).

[Dubai_Steve]

So IF the residential tower has no connection whatsoever to the hotel then it does not really matter what the hotel name will be and this becomes just yet another tower in dubai marina. I hope this is not the case and that residential tower owners will get some benefit from being asociated with the hotel at least. Othwerise it would seem you are paying too high a price for just a normal tower ?

[Nad]

Hello all

Firstly I am new to all this I have reserved a 1 bed on the 24th floor. I looked around for a while in the marina area and what I wanted was a building where I was guaranteed a marina view. My main issue was there should be no possibility of a supertall right at my front window in 18 months time. I have heard all sorts of promises from agents/developers and they are very economical with the truth!

Here I think I paid a small premium but Dubai has seen a rise in the market anyway compared to 12 months ago.

The hotel benefit to me is that as the development is all one the quality will need to be top class of all 3 towers. Also DS tell me all facilities of the hotel are at residents disposal but anybody could use them for a fee I suppose.

Back to construction issues - to me this was a nice safe project. Good looking towers at a good location. Average prices but a reputable developer.

Its just my opinion.

[malec]

It's a guarantee there won't be a supertall since there isn't physically any space left

[Morrismarina]

Welcome to the forum Nad and congratulations on your purchase.

The launch is this Saturday and we'll get more info such as the name of the hotel chain. Also DS tell me there is going to be a article about BC in this week's Sunday Mail (UK).

[Nad]

Thanks Morris

I understand we may be neighbours in circa 2009!!!

DS have promised to send me their launch pack which I am sure will contain many lovely pictures and the like. The hotel I am assured is a household 5 star name - not many of these unaccounted for in the marina area. Lets hope its not Ibis/Travelodge!!!

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Well Dubai Holdings now own Travel Lodge :)

Let's hope it is more like Hilton than Travel Lodge.

[Krazy]

^^ It will be funny if it's an "Econo Lodge" or "Budget Inn" :lol:

just kidding... before the DS wrath gets on me :runaway:

[boni1981]

Why don't we do a toto beat, waiting the 11 november?
I think will be Mandarin, Four Season or Best Western (more economic).

[Dubai_Steve]

Marriot, Fairmont, Hilton (extension of Hilton Jumeirah beach?) or Radisson

[AltinD]

^^ Radisson NO. They already have 2 Hotel Apartments in Marina, a Hotel in Media City and one to come in the nearby Canal Point. Of course NO Four Seasons in there either.

[Nad]

Well whoever it is I hope they have a nice spa! Roll on Saturday....

Is anybody going to the launch which I understand is in Dubai?

[Mistermark]

Ok I just got done cleaning the crap from this thread... please RESPECT the bloody forum rules

The next person who talks about payments, mortgage interest rates, which toilet fittings, color of ur curtains, the angle of the sun and moon on your walls or ne other info that only YOU as an investor is interested in and NO ONE ELSE.. you'll be brigged for two weeks.

Please reserve this thread for construction related discussions ONLY. For all your other worries, use this thread

http://www1.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=368157


I'd really appreciate it if you would link to the forum rules you've mentioned. So far I've been unable to find any rules of this forum that say investment-related discussion is not permitted.

[Mistermark]

sure I let it be for a while but when it gets to a point where no one really seems to be giving a fuck abt forum etiquette.. it's pretty much no to everything other than construction related discussions.. these things have now had a strong tendency to go from "ok" to bad to worse..

However, apropos my last post, I DO know of forum rules against the use of bad language, even when misspelt...

Seems the wrong one of us is the moderator here...

[AltinD]

I'd really appreciate it if you would link to the forum rules you've mentioned. So far I've been unable to find any rules of this forum that say investment-related discussion is not permitted.

You have to adjust your marking: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/announcement.php?f=577&a=221

[Krazy]

Seems the wrong one of us is the moderator here...

Hmm.. someone with 48 posts, and with no other purpose to use this forum other than to serve his own investment queries.... please teach me how to moderate :nuts:

[jo_da]

Hmm.. someone with 48 posts, and with no other purpose to use this forum other than to serve his own investment queries.... please teach me how to moderate :nuts:

"The number of posts on this board has no direct relation to the experience of a member."

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ please take general discussions to sky majlis

[Morrismarina]

For your entertainment whilst we await the offical launch, here's some more pictures: :)

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[Dubai_Steve]

Nice renders, but I still can't work out what that big round cage is.

When will we know who the hotel chain is ?

[Dubai_Steve]

Three Tower Marina Project Launched with Escrow Account

Dubai Select, a specialist developer of luxury investment property in the Emirate state, has become the first property company in Dubai to offer its customers the security of an escrow account, giving purchasers full protection of their funds throughout the construction period. The account is being launched in conjunction with Dubai Selects latest flagship development, Bay Central, a three Tower project at the very centre of Dubai Marina which combines residential property with a five star hotel.

Barclays Bank has structured this escrow account as the first of its kind. Its innovative structure will enable property investors to securely hold their advanced payments during the construction phase of Bay Central. Emaar Properties will be the signatory on the account, providing security of funds, ensuring regular monthly updates on constructional cash flow are made and that progress of construction is maintained.

Commenting, Mark Stott, Managing Director, Dubai Select: “We have always adopted an open approach with our customers, giving them secure web access to their payment schedules and regular build updates. The escrow account is a more formal extension of that transparency”.

About Bay Central

Bay Central stands less than 8 metres from the waters-edge, preventing future buildings being constructed in front of it, ensuring that the spectacular views of the marina are maintained. The two residential towers, Bay West and Bay East, contain 388 properties in each, including: studios from £79,950, 1 bedroom apartments from £117,009, 2 bedroom apartments from £176,000, 3 bedroom marina suites from £278,923 and 5 bedroom penthouses, which all have 5 balconies, maid quarters and a private Jacuzzi, from £743,367.

Residents of Bay West and Bay East will each have their own full range of amenities including: temperature-controlled swimming pools, shaded pool area, sauna, steam room, gymnasium, shopping and dining facilities, secure underground parking, 24 hour security, concierge desk and spacious lobby, professional house keeping service, children’s play area, and 24 hour maintenance and supervision.

Staying true to Dubai’s reputation as a luxury destination each property is designed to the highest specification, with contemporary styling and the use of marble and granite. Each property is also fitted with the latest internet and telecommunications systems.

Tower three of Bay Central, which will located in the centre of the development, will be a hotel and serviced apartments. Dubai Select property is launching this in conjunction with a 5 star International hotel chain, the details of which will be announced shortly.

All 3 towers will be completed in 2009 which coincides with the completion of the whole marina development.

Dubai Select is offering it customers a choice of 2 payments plans on the development, a standard plan with payment over 3 years and a lengthy plan which extends the terms over 15 years.

[Nad]

Any news on the hotel brand? I thought today was the announcement/ launch etc. No new details on the website which was launched today.

Morris - still got cold feet?

[Morrismarina]

DS now say the name of the hotel is not being announced today and that they have to withhold the name until the hotel have their own launch which will probably be towards the end of the month. Which is contrary to what I was distinctly told two weeks ago - that DS and the hotel chain were launching together today. Hence why I made my reservation. Perhaps, to be fair, the hotel may have changed their launch date for some reason beyond DS's control. Who knows...they're obviously having to keep the name under wraps for now. But I will be concerned if we get into December with no announcement.
My cold feet are getting a bit warmer again now thanks Nad. It is a great development and sure to go up greatly in value when completed, but I just need to be sure I can afford it before I sign up.

[Morrismarina]

Nice renders, but I still can't work out what that big round cage is.


Looks like a piece of art work to me to compliment the design. (Or could be a giant smoothie maker !!!)

[Dubai_Steve]

Well the cage looks cheap and ugly in my opinion.

[Morrismarina]

Could be a giant waste paper basket. :lol:

[Dubai_Steve]

Must say I am upset that they are delaying the hotel announcement.

[Morrismarina]

I agree Steve............it's not a good start. Did they tell you as well that the announcement would be today ???

[Dubai_Steve]

Yes they told me that also so not exactly the big launch we were expecting just a few extra pics on the website.

The wastepaper basket at the entrance is not exactly the gold arabian horse lined drive of Al Qasr is it.

[Nad]

Looks like a big bucket to me!

DS told me they would announce the hotel chain today and I would also be receiving a full brochure of the development. I'm sure the brochure's on its way as DS will need this for future sales but I think they should tell anyone who has reserved an apartment who the hotel are.

This would instill some confidence in my opinion in the whole project.

[Morrismarina]

Looks like a big bucket to me!

but I think they should tell anyone who has reserved an apartment who the hotel are.



Problem is everybody would know then.........as I'm sure some DS customers go on the internet. :lol:

The DS website of course is stating that there is a 5* hotel chain involved so must be still going ahead.

[Dubai_Steve]

Info about dubai select's appearance at Cityscape 2006 (4th - 6th of December)

Dubai Select are a private developer with offices on the Sheik Zayed Road, Dubai, the UK and Australia. After the successful launch of the marina developments, the Torch and the Point, their latest project Bay Central is a three tower off-plan development occupying the most exclusive position on Dubai Marina, and includes a 5 Star Luxury International Hotel and Spa. Further details about this development will be launched exclusively to the UAE at this event.

Dubai Select have recently gained mortgage approval from Mashreq Bank which is a testament to their status and commitment to the Dubai Property market.


So maybe we will not know which hotel chain until 1st week in December ?

[Morrismarina]

I reckon the hotel chain is Four Seasons, just looked at their website, they're very international, a very well known name and have a hotel in Aman but NOTHING in Dubai. Yes my money's on them !!!! :)

[eudora]

I don't know a great deal about the Four Seasons hotel chain - would this be good or bad news?

[dubaiflo]

^^ good for sure.

on the other hand there will be a 4season in festival city. but then this is far enough from the marina..

[Dubai_Steve]

If it is four seasons then it will be a Microsoft, Bill Gates hotel :lol:

"Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates is planning to buy Four Seasons Hotels Inc. in an offer that values the company at $3.7 billion"

[Dubai_Steve]

I think it could also be The Savoy

[Dubai_Steve]

Could also be InterContinental or Holiday Inn.

"InterContinental Hotels Group. Mr. Richard Hartman, Managing Director, Europe, Middle East and Africa region of the Group, explained him group`s new developments in the pipeline. He said the IHG Group has an extensive plan of 11 new projects aiming to become one of the largest operators in Dubai creating 5000 rooms over the next four years."

[Dubai_Steve]

From Bay West Tower

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[AltinD]

That Naz bloke knows which Hotel chain will be but doesn't want to tell us. :bash:





:D

[Morrismarina]

Those views look very good - will be a great view of the Sea and Palm Jemeriah. (May see Palm Jebel Ali from the other side as well).

[mackie1964]

Steve;

How do you do these views, can you educate us a little.

[Dubai_Steve]

Those views look very good - will be a great view of the Sea and Palm Jemeriah. (May see Palm Jebel Ali from the other side as well).

You get a full uninterrupted Palm view from the top of Bay Central (maybe a restuarant). Palm Jebel Ali is blocked by JBR on the residential tower and is also a bit too far in the distance.

[Dubai_Steve]

Steve;

How do you do these views, can you educate us a little.

Just import malec's marina model (sketchup file) into google earth then adjust the tilt and zoom etc.

However, malec's marina model is rotated and in the wrong place on google earth so you need to rotate the model in sketchup so that it goes into the correct place in google earth (malec wish you could correct that as is is very difficult to get rotation right - notice in my views some of the buildings are slighlty in the marina water)

[malec]

^^ The reason I rotated it in the first place is because it's easier to make the towers when the boxes are aligned with the red and green axes. If you want to get it back import an image from google earth and move the model on top of it.

[boni1981]

DS told me that we don't get information about the hotel name until first week of December.
This for hotel guilt, not for Ds, because the hotel direction like to announce this new aquisition on Dubai during they big lunch on first week of December.

[AltinD]

It is not Intercontinental, since they already got the Marina 101. I think it will be Ritz Carlton since their beach property is just a short walk from Bay Central.

[dubaiflo]

what about another moevenpick after the pearl fiasco?

however Ritz carlton sounds likely , every hotel on the beach had it's extension with either JBR or marina tower or internal expansion except ritz carlton.

[Dubai_Steve]

I agree could be Ritz, unless Hilton will extend further into the marina market ?

I hope it is not moevenpick, are they 5 * ?

[Dubai_Steve]

Manager of Ritz said this on 4th Nov:

http://www.ameinfo.com/100737.html

'It transforms the location of this hotel from an isolated spot on Jumeirah Beach into a part of a dynamic downtown with a great range of shops and leisure facilities within walking distance. We think guests will love the amenities of the Dubai Marina.'

The Ritz-Carlton Dubai has decided not to proceed with its own extension plans for the time being, although there is space to allow a west-wing to be added in keeping with the design of the hotel. 'For now we are happy to live without construction,' says Mr. Mainguy.

[boni1981]

no i don't think it will be Moevenpick. They are launching 5 new Hotels in Dubai and also one on Jumeirah beach residence.

Look this: http://www.moevenpick-hotels.com/hotelfinder/newdestination/

It most probably to be Ritz Carlton.

[AltinD]

Both HILTON and MOEVENPICK have Hotels in JBR, the former was just launched and is a 44F (JBR) tower to be connected with a bridge with the existing beach Hotel.

If the Bay Central will indeed turn out to be a Ritz-Carlton, it make sense for the existing one on the beach, not to expand. Since the extra rooms are being added with someone's elses expences, beach aerea is what they need most. ;)

[Nad]

I have spoken to Dubai Select today re this project. I enquired as to the hotel brand but they said that they could not tell me due to orders from Dubai. They have promised that all those with reservations will be told who the hotel are in the next few days. I also asked about brochures etc seen as the launch has been and gone. They said they have some flyers of the project which were used at the recent launch roadshow in London but the glossy brochures are still not ready. They told me these will be sent out in 2 weeks. I assume this will tie in with the release of the hotel name as I am sure it will be all over the brochure. Has anybody else been told anything different???

[Dubai-Lover]

it's not ritz carlton!!!
read properly

and it certainly won't be a four seasons, marina is not a good location for a four seasons

too many hotel management companies to choose from, lots of possibilities

[Dubai_Steve]

Not many of the big ones left though if its not Ritz? DS say it is an instantly recognizable 5 star international chain.

[mackie1964]

Marriott or one of its group of hotels? :nuts:

[jo_da]

Marriott would be good. They also have some of the most popular serviced apartments, apparently.

[Dubai_Steve]

Marriott would be OK but Ritz is much more classy! Is Hilton out of the running, perhaps a marina extension?

[jo_da]

Ritz is indeed more classy but maybe a bit too classy. And not as a big name in serviced apartments. Hilton would be good though.

[Nad]

Hilton already acquired a JBR block to extend the beach hotel - so unlikely to be Hitlon.

[AltinD]

it's not ritz carlton!!!
read properly


Dennis, the manager of Ritz Carlton Dubai said that the EXISTING building will not be expanded, not that the Ritz Carlton group has no plans to expand in the UAE.

As I already said, not expanding the existing facility will mean they are open to the idea that someone else build a hotel and let them manage it. Bay Central is very close to Ritz Carlton and also since the talk about this specific hotel started, someone in here, who said to know who the hotel chain is, has "dissapeared" from this specific thread, which knowing him, is very strange.

Sometime the silence says more then words would.

I'm stickin with R-C, not that I really care, just for the speculative fun of it.

[Krazy]

I cant believe you guys have gone on with this pointless discussion of which brand of hotel is gonna be at BC for 4 pages! Why cant you all just wait instead of being so impatient?

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Because we are bored with no image updates from Imre

[Naz UK]

Not disappeared at all! :happy: Just laughing at all the comments here. :wink2:

BTW, trying to link a suitable 5-star hotel chain with serviced apartments is pointless here, seen as the chain will be taking over the "Hotel - Bay Central"..not the serviced apartments "Bay East".

[Dubai_Steve]

Not pointless because Bay Central apartments will also be for sale but at 50% higher price than Bay East/West. Although Bay West/East are standard towers they will be linked to the main hotel by association. So if its Ritz or Hilton then it is more attractive to buy there than if it is Econolodge etc.

[Dubai_Steve]

Not disappeared at all! :happy: Just laughing at all the comments here. :wink2:

I take it then that means we have guessed incorrectly so far :lol:

[Krazy]

^^ you know the place for posting about your buying and pricing concerns :)

[Dubai_Steve]

Type

bay central dubai

into google, then press the google Images link and tell me what you see at the bottom right most result of the single page of results :D coincidence?

[Krazy]

yes coincidence

[Josau]

yes coincidence ...but funny:)

[AltinD]

Gulf News full page add yesterday, but with just a shadow of the design superimposed on the location.

[SA BOY]

directly behind the Al Fattan towers facing the marina

[Dubai_Steve]

Dubai Select has launched the $408m Bay Central project in Dubai Marina. In conjunction with Barclays Bank and Emaar Properties, purchasers at Bay Central will receive full protection of their funds throughout the construction period via an escrow account. The project combines residential property with serviced apartments and a 55 storey five star hotel; the project is due for completion by September 2009.

About Dubai Select Properties:

UAE-based Dubai Select is a leading authority on buying property in Dubai for investment purposes. Its extensive portfolio of luxury apartments are built to the highest specification and located in the most desirable areas in order to ensure customers get the maximum return on their investment, whether that’s through rental or resale.

Bay Central is the third development Dubai Select has launched in the Marina. The others – The Torch and The Point – are 95% and 85% sold out respectively. Dubai Select focus heavily on after sales, and recognise that exit strategies, rentals and associated services all of which is delivered through their unique member services division.

The company has been operating in Dubai since 2003 from offices on Sheikh Zayed Road, in addition to show rooms in the UK and Australia.

[Dubai_Steve]

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/8/32898-mark.jpg

Appropriately called 'Bay Central' the AED 1.5 billion project lies at the heart of the Marina development area and to celebrate, the property developers are sending three columns consisting of 27 beams of light, soaring over one kilometre in to Dubai's night sky, to represent the three towers to be constructed.

Mark Stott, C.O.O, commented: 'The launch of Bay Central coincides with our participation at Cityscape Dubai and of course UAE National Day. Therefore we decided to mark these important occasions with something memorable and spectacular. Three columns of light over three nights, to represent our three towers and three landmark events.'

The developer has also announced that it is the first in Dubai to offer purchasers the security of an Escrow account. In conjunction with Barclays Bank and Emaar, customers of Bay Central will receive full protection of their funds throughout the construction period.

'With a number of developments severely delayed or worst still cancelled, we have pioneered the development of Escrow Accounts in Dubai. Purchasers of Bay Central can take confidence from the fact that their funds will receive full protection throughout the construction period,' added Stott.

Despite their positioning in the upper price range, Dubai Select describe their developments as 'Exclusively Affordable'. Their innovative use of drawn-out and deferred payments cater for multiple investors and homeowners from the middle income bracket to high net-worth individuals. The marina project which combines residential property with serviced apartments and a 55 storey five star hotel boasts a prime central location in Dubai marina, sitting on the waters-edge. Construction work on the project starts later this month and is due for completion by September 2009.

Details of Dubai Selects other two marina developments, The Torch and The Point, along with details of its unique part-ownership scheme, will also be available during Cityscape which opens today (Monday) at the Dubai International Exhibition Centre (DIEC) through Wednesday.

The lights were switched on Saturday and the spectacle will continue until tonight (Monday) between 7pm and midnight.

[Morrismarina]

Thanks for all the info Steve...... much appreciated. :bow:

[Saudi guy]

WOW i love these light in cloud

[True Blue]

Could someone kindly point out to Mr Stott that his apartments are not built to the highest specification. I assume he means WILL BE BUILT to the highest specification. There is a massive difference and most of the above is highly missleading.

"Dubai Select focus heavily on aftersales" WHAT!!

I Think its time to start focusing on construction. DS are really full of themselves, 95% and 85% sold out, so lets buy some more land and launch something else.

"Wth a number of developments severely delayed....." HELLO!!!

I know a lot of people will be pissed off at my comments but Stott started it! With all the money they have generated against the negligible outlays, they are worth a close watching.

[Morrismarina]

Fair comment True Blue......their sales pitch is sometimes a little too enthusiastic, leading to them getting their past and future terminology mixed up at times......which apart from being annoying could be construed by some as mis-leading.

[Dubai_Steve]

So Cityscape is here, has the hotel chain for Bay Central been announced?

[arfie]

Yes they have launched it here today in Cityscape.

I'm surprised they couldnt come up with a better stand for their launch! However the plot positioning of Bay Central is very impressive.

[Dubai_Steve]

Any photos arfie ?

[Morrismarina]

Spoke to DS today, was told the hotel chain will not be announced now until the New Year. (I've no idea what to make of this) :ohno:

[Morrismarina]

Is that Mark Stott in the photo ???

[Dubai_Steve]

*delete*

[Dubai_Steve]

Spoke to DS today, was told the hotel chain will not be announced now until the New Year. (I've no idea what to make of this) :ohno:

Well I would not sign any contracts or pay deposits unless you are told who the chain will be. Sounds like they do not have any hotel chain secured to me. Maybe they need to see a certain level of reservations before committing.

Yes that is Mark Stott.

[Naz UK]

^^ I can assure you they have a hotel signed up. There are other reasons why they cannot announce it. Be patient. I'm sorry but what is there to give reason to be cautious? It's an internationally renowned Hotel and Spa chain... erm.. I haven't seen too many of these go bust lately...

[Krazy]

Could someone kindly point out to Mr Stott that his apartments are not built to the highest specification. I assume he means WILL BE BUILT to the highest specification. There is a massive difference and most of the above is highly missleading.

"Dubai Select focus heavily on aftersales" WHAT!!

I Think its time to start focusing on construction. DS are really full of themselves, 95% and 85% sold out, so lets buy some more land and launch something else.

"Wth a number of developments severely delayed....." HELLO!!!

I know a lot of people will be pissed off at my comments but Stott started it! With all the money they have generated against the negligible outlays, they are worth a close watching.


Im glad someone put it the way it is... DS has nothing to show right now that backs their promises.... a bunch of lights for what? I'd rather see a bunch of cranes

[mackie1964]

^^ I can assure you they have a hotel signed up. There are other reasons why they cannot announce it. Be patient. I'm sorry but what is there to give reason to be cautious? It's an internationally renowned Hotel and Spa chain... erm.. I haven't seen too many of these go bust lately...

It sounds like Intercontinental, they don't have any in Dubai!!!

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ I can assure you they have a hotel signed up. There are other reasons why they cannot announce it. Be patient. I'm sorry but what is there to give reason to be cautious? It's an internationally renowned Hotel and Spa chain... erm.. I haven't seen too many of these go bust lately...

I do not belive that they have signed up. As I said I would not proceed until it is announced. Could be all bullshit for all we know and will be just a regular tower in the end. Why would they delay the launch to after Cityscape ?

[Morrismarina]

^^ I can assure you they have a hotel signed up. There are other reasons why they cannot announce it. Be patient. I'm sorry but what is there to give reason to be cautious? It's an internationally renowned Hotel and Spa chain... erm.. I haven't seen too many of these go bust lately...

Thanks for the info Naz much appreciated....but there's something I don't understand here....I think we can take it from your comments that you're telling us you're aware of who the hotel chain is and the reason why we are not being told. DS have informed me that they can't possibly tell any investors as they are sworn to secrecy, which is understandable. So how (seeing as you don't work for DS) do you know what's going on here ??

Also I don't think anybody has raised any concerns over the possibility of the hotel chain going bust.

[AltinD]

It sounds like Intercontinental, they don't have any in Dubai!!!

Intercontinental is the FIRST 5 star Hotel in DUbai and opened in 1975. However at the moment isn't any since the legendary one changed the managment to Radison SAS from October 1st and the new one in Festival City will open next year (delayed).

Keep in mind that Marina 101 will have a Crowne Plazza Hotel (woned by Inter cont), however this doesn't mean that no Intercontinental will be in Marina.

[Naz UK]

Thanks for the info Naz much appreciated....but there's something I don't understand here....I think we can take it from your comments that you're telling us you're aware of who the hotel chain is and the reason why we are not being told. DS have informed me that they can't possibly tell any investors as they are sworn to secrecy, which is understandable. So how (seeing as you don't work for DS) do you know what's going on here ??

Also I don't think anybody has raised any concerns over the possibility of the hotel chain going bust.

I work for Hotelier Middle East magazine. Enough said.

[arfie]

Mark Stott said yesterday that they havent signed up with any hotel yet. They are down to a list of 3 and hope to make a announcement over the next 2 weeks.

[AltinD]

However, is important what it will be when the building will be completed. The Fairmont Hotel in SZR was planed and advertised all along as Sheraton Plazza. Only shortly before opening, they changed the managment to Fairmont.

[Morrismarina]

I work for Hotelier Middle East magazine. Enough said.

Fair enough Naz.... I know your info in the past has been spot on. Cheers. :)

[boni1981]

sorry Krazy, i know that this post is for onother treath. only one line.

the late hotel name announcement should be to wait a better dollar/euro change. now is 1.33 less that 1 month ago was 1.27

[Morrismarina]

Most unlikely that this is the reason. (The dollar could slide even further and is likely to be very weak for the next 12 months) If it's a US hotel chain then the exchange rate has no effect whatsoever as Dirham is fixed to the dollar. If a Eurpopean chain then dollar rate to Euro/£ is very incredibly good.

[Krazy]

from a couple of days back

Site is already boarded

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/176/316168022fc1c7ca6b1oeq3.jpg

From Flickr
Taken with a Sony DSC-F828.
Taken on December 5, 2006
Uploaded on December 6, 2006 by peej5733

I dont see any boarding of site Steve

[crazyevildude]

There are lots of light verticle lines along the road edge, this could be a fence. Although it's too far away to actually tell.

[Dubai_Steve]

I mean this side of plot

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/343/dsc0223ph9.jpg

[Krazy]

^^ that is not boarding.. that has been in place for ever now... bay central just put their ad on the existing boardin

[Morrismarina]

Was there some talk that DS are starting the ground work next month ???.....or have I been dreaming ???

[Krazy]

they seem to be preparing for soil testing in this picture

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/176/316168022fc1c7ca6b1oeq3.jpg

[Morrismarina]

Thanks Krazy. I reckon they'll have to start soon as Marina is supposed to be finished by end of 2009 and I doubt Emaar would want them delaying matters.

[Dubai_Steve]

http://static.flickr.com/110/316167898_49153cfbca_o.jpg

[carpetking]

Wow THX Dubai Steve :bow:

[Krazy]

Thanks Krazy. I reckon they'll have to start soon as Marina is supposed to be finished by end of 2009 and I doubt Emaar would want them delaying matters.

Where did you get the end of 2009? Dont believe these "deadlines".. initially they said 2008 but we know that's not happening... realistically Dubai Marina won't be "done" before 2012-2015

[True Blue]

If that is just the initial site investigation taking place in the picture above then won't see the piling rigs on site until April/May 2007. Main construction start towards end of 2007 and complete end 2010.

[Krazy]

^^ sounds about right

[Dubai_Steve]

Where did you get the end of 2009? Dont believe these "deadlines".. initially they said 2008 but we know that's not happening... realistically Dubai Marina won't be "done" before 2012-2015

Dubai Select are stating September 2009 for the initial estimated completion date. So add 6 months to 1 year to that.

What will take till 2015 to be done in the marina ?!

[Morrismarina]

I don't think there will be any delay as the hotel chain would insist on completion by Sept'09. Can't see a hotel chain putting up with losing a year's worth of business.

85% of the Marina plots have been allocated so with 3 years to go I reckon most of it will be finished by end of 2009.

[dubaiflo]

^^ Rose Rotana is one year late as well.

if there is delay or any problems during construction, there is nothing you can do.

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Apart from collect compensation

[Morrismarina]

Imre's photos from the Cityscape thread: :)

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http://i14.tinypic.com/2n9atcx.jpg[/IMG]
http://i13.tinypic.com/42x18br.jpg[/IMG]

[Krazy]

wtf is in front of the podium??

[thedubailife]

Thats Dubai Selects Magic Ball or it's a special apratement for NAZ uk

[dubaiflo]

maybe it is going to be a gym etc or just some design element for the hotel guests, fountain etc.

[eudora]

Hi

Please can any one confirm how far the Metro link stop is from the Bay Central appts? I have looked on the map and can see a Metro stop for the Marina but not sure of the precise location.

thks
:cheers:

[AltinD]

The nearest Metro station will be far away from Bay Central, so don't even consider the Metro as way of transportation.

However it seams that plans are for a tram to serve that aerea and conect to the Metro on the Mall Of Emirates station.

[boni1981]

There are 3 metro stop between jumeirah lake towers and marina.
Those are all from the jumeirah lake towers side. but there are some connecting bridge aver the street (Sheik road) so should'nt be difficult get the metro from Bay central. 600mt far.

Look this: http://www.mag218.blogspot.com/

[Dubai_Steve]

Bay West tower is about 75% or more sold now, including some of the penthouses.

There are also town houses in Bay Central's base, but these are all sold out.

I think the metro will be by the mall so you can get a taxi boat over to the mall (or walk over the bridge) and jump on the metro.

[Krazy]

^^ I doubt there will be any taxi boats?

[malec]

The metro station is near the mall so just walk across the bridge you lazy asses :)

[Dubai_Steve]

Bay Central Plot and Views

http://i14.tinypic.com/2d8hoiu.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/2lk7ju9.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/2ewcln4.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/2yjodba.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/2v10jtv.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/35mjeb8.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/2lu2dch.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/2ljou2c.jpg

[six453]

nice shots! though the view towards jumeirah lakes towers would be blocked by the marina mall..

seems like u were chauffeured by dubai select agents...?

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Depends on your height in the tower. The mall will be more attractive than JLT anyway. Yes chauffer driven by the beautiful Rachael from DS :)

[Morrismarina]

Great pics Steve.....the Mall is not going to be more than a few storeys high so anything really in BC is going to get a good view of JLT.

[Morrismarina]

What are the chances of this being an "Armani" hotel ?? DS keep telling me I'm going to be VERY, VERY, HAPPY when it is announced.

I reckon the hotel chain have not fully signed the deal yet until West Tower is fully sold and contracts signed. They need to be certain DS can sell the development before commiting themselves. Then East Tower will be released in New Year, hotel announcement made, with 10 to 15% price increase.

[Tractor]

No chance it will be Armani - from what I have read Emaar will be building all the Armani hotels.

[AltinD]

I'm (still) sticking to Ritz Carlton, despite Naz's seamingly denial of it.

[DR.SHREJMAN]

i love DM i wonder when it will finish ALL :D

[Dubai_Steve]

Nope it is not Ritz Carlton.

[boni1981]

Somebody know exactly how many mt hight will be the west tower and if the external colour still remain blue/sky? there are some towers that change colour after launching projects as the Arch Tower that now should be a ugly brown colour.
I think that blue colour for bay central is very good, it combines with the colour of the sky, of the swimming pools and with the marina. I hope it will be a night light vision as for the Gronsvenor House.

[Dubai_Steve]

http://i11.tinypic.com/40ortif.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/4cru62v.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/2ly4t1c.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/2w6hvyx.jpg

[eudora]

Wow - What fab images!

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ From the Bay Central DVD

[Morrismarina]

Thanks for the images Steve.......OMG...this must be one of the best developments in the Marina....stunning position !!!. :)

[wiki]

THAT BAY IS LOOKING FANTASTIC

[boni1981]

Where we can find the bay central dvd?

[GoDubai!]

Finally a render that shows the other buildings rather than the development standing pretty all by itself.

[GoDubai!]

Those renders also suggest the BC towers will be positioned right in the gap of the Al Fattan and JBR towers, thus offering sea views. I wonder if this is accurate or that ole realtor's version of poetic license.

[dubaiflo]

if you compare to photos that does look realistic to me.

[eudora]

Hi

In the photos the areas to the left and right of BC are landscaped with trees etc., is this area within the grounds of the hotel and therefore gardens or is this another plot awaiting tall tower announcment?

:cheers1:

[Dubai_Steve]

http://i12.tinypic.com/4cru62v.jpg

To the left will be http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=134322

To the right will be http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320477

And behind will be a 12 storey Al Fattan Tower office block.

[malec]

amazing renders, first one ever that shows the real surroundings accurately? :)

[eudora]

Thanks Dubai Steve

As a previous poster said - it's difficult to judge distance/space, if you are not on the ground in Dubai. Having viewed the other threads it appears that the tower on the left will not block the side views of the marina from BC West Tower. Anyone know for sure?

thks

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Only first 10 or 12 floors will have a partially blocked view on the left side as shown in the picture because of Marina Quays.

[dubaiflo]

amazing renders, first one ever that shows the real surroundings accurately? :)


well this happens more often in videos than in renderings attached to press releases.

[Nad]

Dubai Steve

Where did you get the Bay Central DVD from please?

[Dubai_Steve]

DS kindly gave me a preview copy when I visted them in Dubai. Not sure if it is officially released yet as there is no sound track on my version.

Can preview it here: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=460996278714820766

[eudora]

Cheers!:cheers:

[Dubai_Steve]

http://i16.tinypic.com/2lnjlzq.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/4dwkscl.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/2lkb12d.jpg

[Krazy]

To the right will be http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320477

Not to the immediate right... to the immediate right will be
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=393485&highlight=pier+8

[six453]

the crown of the scaled model doesnt look like the one in the video.. it doesnt have the vertical fins acentuating the crown.. instead the scaled model has those huge curving fins like park island's towers...

[Chad]

OMG LOOKS STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DUBAI]

Awesome location, Awesome buildings ...shame about the developer!

[thedubailife]

^^ Whats wrong with the developer. I really hate it when people fall into the conformity trap so if people start bashing a developer everyone jumps on the Bandwagon.

Nothing has actually been deliviered by DS to say they good or bad all there Marina projects are decent and they probabaly come way down the lsit if we had a bad developers list.

[AltinD]

What's up with the side placed spire on the central Hotel tower? :weird:

[dubaiflo]

^^ looks retarded. and the logo for the operator on top is missing ;)

[Krazy]

all three towers have side spires from that model

[AltinD]

^^ Yeah, but the other two have spires on the outer side (the left towert on the left side, the right one on the right) and is asymetric if the central tower doesn't have it on the centre. It looks retarded too and if it is designed by a careless person.

[Morrismarina]

I wouldn't take too much notice of the model, they're never that accurate and if some details (such as the fins on the roof area) are hard to make they go with a more simple design. (BTW.....DS have them made by a company in India...the first one of the Torch was terrible, wasn't even in colour, so they had it re-made & they seem to be getting better at them now). :)

[Dubai_Steve]

Which do you think has the best location this or the Torch ?

Benefit of the Torch is that is is closer to the interchange and SZR and also phase 1 and the tallest block.

Benefit of BC is that it is close to the marina mall and the JBR walk and possibly beach access.

[Morrismarina]

I would say BC is the best, as Marina views are uninterrupted although the hotel tower will block some views to the left side of the Marina from the West tower. Also nearer to the Metro stop which will be close to the Mall.
(Torch could be better for car travel though as traffic could be dense in the middle Marina area).

[arfie]

Well both locations are great. The 1 and 3 beds on BC have uninterrupted views of the marina. However the Torch is located at the best part of the marina.

In the long run both apartments will be great lets hoping the finishing is as good as Dubai Select have promised.

[DR.SHREJMAN]

guys do u think its lil bit danger to build these towers in weak surface?? its small piece of land !!!!

[Naz UK]

guys do u think its lil bit danger to build these towers in weak surface?? its small piece of land !!!!

Only about as dangerous as trolling in forums with useless questions.

[DamacLover]

Only about as dangerous as trolling in forums with useless questions.

or replying to them :)

Happy new my young padawan :banana:

[AltinD]

I would say BC is the best, as Marina views are uninterrupted although the hotel tower will block some views to the left side of the Marina from the West tower. Also nearer to the Metro stop which will be close to the Mall.
(Torch could be better for car travel though as traffic could be dense in the middle Marina area).

The Metro station will NOT be close Marina Mall. The station is near Almas Tower in JLT and that is more or less close to Emaar's Yacht Club.

Constraction is about to start on the station, since the aerea is boarded and Middle East Foundation equipments and machineries are already on site.

[Morrismarina]

Cheers for the info Altin. Any chance you can kindly post an up to date map of the metro stations, I've seen quite a few versions and not sure what is the final one now.

[AltinD]

^^ Sorry, I can't help with any map, but driving daily in SZR I can see that suddenly and simultaneously, they have started working on many of the future stations sites.

[DUBAI]

I wouldn't take too much notice of the model, they're never that accurate and if some details (such as the fins on the roof area) are hard to make they go with a more simple design. (BTW.....DS have them made by a company in India...the first one of the Torch was terrible, wasn't even in colour, so they had it re-made & they seem to be getting better at them now). :)

Surely the architects responsible have made models of a higher standard.

Where did they go.

The spire does look a bit silly though, that tower would look more 'finished' without it.

[Dubai_Steve]

Completion date has been moved to 31/12/09. The initial announcement at launch was 30/9/09. Also there is a 12 month grace period before compensation. Therefore key hand over is not likely until close to 2011 !

[DR.SHREJMAN]

thanks for responding NAZZZZZZZZ.. :nono:

[eudora]

And no news on the hotel?



Completion date has been moved to 31/12/09. The initial announcement at launch was 30/9/09. Also there is a 12 month grace period before compensation. Therefore key hand over is not likely until close to 2011 !

[Dubai_Steve]

The height of Bay West and Bay East towers has been reduced by 5 floors (Apparently by instruction from the municipality)

Yet the central tower remains the same height.

Please update title and emporis.

Also this makes the DVD, renders and models all incorrect.

[Dubai_Steve]

And no news on the hotel?

News will not be released until Feb