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tq October 21st, 2006, 06:48 PM ok, Ciputra gets it own Thread...will repost some refined photos of Ciputra to have a nice collection here...
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Sinjin P. October 22nd, 2006, 08:34 AM ^ Cool masterplan. Is this on the works already though?
tq October 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM ~ 30% is done. Most of them villas, some high-rises and UNIS.
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skidlin October 22nd, 2006, 06:57 PM i don't like the unfriendly fences in front all those villa, but i especially like the classical gate of ciputra city, reminds me of one of the german victory gates with the chariots.
coolink October 22nd, 2006, 10:09 PM tq last summer you're back, how many apartment buildings had taken off ground?
from other model not this one, I counted the Ciputra had almost 60 buildings, ranging from 20-40 storeys tall.
If this project completed hanoi skyline will change dramatically.
on the 1990s documentary flim on Shanghai, the reporter said, she couldn't believe the rate of construction in Shanghai. "someday people will say New York is the Shanghai of USA"
who knew it came true......now I watched another documentary film, they said Shanghai is now 8 times larger than New YOrk..... that is so cool, only 16yrs time.
I wouldn't compare hanoi with the world yet, but with the construction rate in Hanoi, I think they will surpass Saigon very soon. because people in Saigon don't like to live in Apartments and the construction rate is so damn slow. they take 1 day at a time in saigon ya know.
tq October 23rd, 2006, 07:36 PM its difficult to say but they are not very tall (~20 -40 story)...I think that Tay Ho Tay will change Hanoi's skyline dramatically because they build it next to Westlake...so high-rises will make Hanoi's Skyline taller...Hanoi is small so its easier to fill the city with high-rises...but Saigon has more commercial centres which make the skyline more interesting in my opinion...Ba Dinh and Hoan Kiem District are free from high-rises now...and they build a lot of new french low-rises there...most of new high-rises are getting build at the west (Tay Ho, Tu Liem and Cau Giay) and south (Dong Da)...Hanoi has a lot of those well residential lanes under way...so high-rises there are not buidling that close to each other...but Saigon has in every districts high-rises which may look unstructured...
skidlin October 23rd, 2006, 07:52 PM tq last summer you're back, how many apartment buildings had taken off ground?
from other model not this one, I counted the Ciputra had almost 60 buildings, ranging from 20-40 storeys tall.
If this project completed hanoi skyline will change dramatically.
on the 1990s documentary flim on Shanghai, the reporter said, she couldn't believe the rate of construction in Shanghai. "someday people will say New York is the Shanghai of USA"
who knew it came true......now I watched another documentary film, they said Shanghai is now 8 times larger than New YOrk..... that is so cool, only 16yrs time.
I wouldn't compare hanoi with the world yet, but with the construction rate in Hanoi, I think they will surpass Saigon very soon. because people in Saigon don't like to live in Apartments and the construction rate is so damn slow. they take 1 day at a time in saigon ya know.
where did you see that documentary film
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_most_populous_cities_in_the_world
by area and by population shanghai is not 8 times the size of new york.
Saigoneseguy October 23rd, 2006, 08:17 PM ^^ From that list, Saigon has only 3.5 mil kia` o.0
skidlin October 23rd, 2006, 09:37 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_population
this is the metropolitan list, saigon has over 5mil. so i think 3.5mil. on the list before represents the inner core of the city...or wiki is just lying straightly
VietnamCalling October 24th, 2006, 03:52 AM Saigon's registered population is around 5 million but if you add the illegals and workers from the provinces then it would balloon to 8 million.
coolink October 25th, 2006, 07:11 PM info on the wikipedia I think was updated by people surfing like you and I
I watched the documentary film on channel 42, Discovery Canada. dedicated to world science, sometimes history and travel shows too......just 2 weeks ago.
I'm very sure they're telling the truth.
New York has only 7mils, Shanghai has over 20mils, even the population is 3 times larger. WHen the Chinese build they build to last, build to impress, build to compete, so I'm not surprised.
Saigon has almost 10mil
another_viet October 25th, 2006, 09:55 PM it all depends on if u r talking about the metropolitan area or the proper city itself....
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Jaroslaw November 1st, 2006, 03:06 PM WHen the Chinese build they build to last, build to impress, build to compete...
Build to last? Are you kidding? See my Shantou thread on ssp city photos... even their buildings from 20-30 years ago are falling down already.
Build to impress or compete? What terrible reasons to build... you build for your customers. Not to mention that this Pudong thing is a disaster in urban terms...
Anyway, thanks for the pics, I will have to go see this for myself one of these days.
Saigoneseguy November 1st, 2006, 08:26 PM I don't like many cities in China, in some extent they look like an oversized concrete playground, but Pudong is really nice isn't it?
skidlin November 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM i agree jaroslaw...the chinese cities are a mess...there's no room for air...it's impressive that some of their towers are huge, but every one of them look out of place...no uniform match...overgrown.
buildings will never last forever,...think how many of the original 7 wonders of the world are left still standing today.
btw...i heard on the little saigon radio a couple days ago,...poland has a monthly wage of $200...but warsaw look so nice...wat's the secret?
coolink November 1st, 2006, 09:35 PM jaro what you do for living?
I'm so inspired I want to quit my daytime job and do what you do, travel around the world, taking pictures, explore the beauty of life
yes Jaro 20-30 that's pretty long compare to few months or 1-2 yrs in Saigon.
I read an article they said Shanghai now build so much that they have plenty of vacant apartments and offices.
if you're talking about the quality of life/city then Shanghai wouldn't be the place. But I'm talking about its grandeur, its a fantasy (come true). and the pace of construction is the envy of many countries.
I love the futuristic looking of most of the towers in Shanghai, But I still prefer the tree line boulevards of Saigon and Hanoi. I love walking or driving under big canopy of trees.
my best choice for Saigon to replicate are SIngapore and Chicago. Chi cago to me is a classy ville, with classy skyscrappers. Hong KOng, New York are beautiful but chaotic, Toronto is too small, Sydney is ugly, but they have the opera house and the bridge to even out.
long story short.
China they know how to compete, VN they work when they want too.
But I do hope that once they join WTO and put an end to "joint venture" projects, foreign investors will be attracted to build bigger buildings.
Saigoneseguy November 2nd, 2006, 05:09 AM poland has a monthly wage of $200
Maybe that was communist Poland, PL's gdp per capita is now ranking 43rd worldwide.
diz November 2nd, 2006, 05:10 AM http://static.flickr.com/101/263213177_5641344608_o.jpg
OMG, in the middle of the building, you can interact with your neigbor through the balcony. :lol:
tq November 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM source: http://hanoiciputra.com
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another_viet November 2nd, 2006, 10:01 PM WOAH
i wonder how much that house at the very bottom costS?!
it looks so mediteranean
skidlin November 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM wow, very nice places, i wonder what is the current occupation statistic of ciputra city now, i don't see people anywhere.
garzland November 4th, 2006, 11:40 AM Wow, Vietnam is rapidly developing....
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PhoAve December 19th, 2006, 03:37 AM All of these project are so nice. I just hope that those who live in the area know how to maintain them. As you know, we vietnamese are kinna lazy in maintaining...
mattpowell December 19th, 2006, 08:07 AM actually there is a compulsory maintenance fee so the estate management will take care of that. You're right, otherwise it would deteriorate..
khongsaykhongve December 19th, 2006, 08:12 AM Bầy ngựa đen trên cổng vào khu đô thị Nam Thăng Long.
KTS. Vơ Thành Lân
Từ sân bay Nội Bài về Hà Nội, chưa qua hết cầu Thăng Long tôi bị thu hút bởi một cái cổng bề thế, lạ lùng ở giữa một không gian trống trải trước kia là cánh đồng. Cấu trúc h́nh thể như một khải hoàn môn và có cả mấy bầy ngựa đang lồng lên trên mái như sẵn sàng bay vút lên trời xanh. Chắc nhiều người từ xa đến Hà Nội - cũng như tôi - thắc mắc: “Cái quái ǵ thế nhỉ? Công tŕnh chào đón 1.000 năm Thăng Long chăng?”. Nhưng không phải! Đó là cái cổng của “Khu đô thị Nam Thăng Long - Ciputra” đấy! ...
link: http://www.saigontimes.com.vn/tbktsg/detail.asp?muc=85&Sobao=835&sott=20 :ohno:
fatcat December 19th, 2006, 03:01 PM This city is a big joke.You'll never could imagine how shitty the services and qualitites of villas here.Some so-called villas have pieces of the plafond falling down in middle of the night or the wc is disfunctioning(water instead of flowing down,overflown the borders;
And more ridiculous,the services is overbilled and very expensive.The security's staff is well trained too:You know that in an marriage in VNese tradition,we must choose a very 'good moment' (gio hoang dao) to going take the bride to marriage ceremony,but taking account the highly seriousness of the stuff,the guy who went to take his future wife was just blocked at the gate by the security staff because he is not the citizen of the city.:ohno: :bash:
The poor guy has taken more than an hour to explain to the security and the bride has just cried for hours after that incident.What a luxury services!!!!!!!!!!!
Adding to all that,no market or super market nearby,no leisures nearby and when the night is falling,the city is just like a dead one like in horror movie.
pipapipo310 December 19th, 2006, 05:58 PM This city is a big joke.You'll never could imagine how shitty the services and qualitites of villas here.Some so-called villas have pieces of the plafond falling down in middle of the night or the wc is disfunctioning(water instead of flowing down,overflown the borders;
And more ridiculous,the services is overbilled and very expensive.The security's staff is well trained too:You know that in an marriage in VNese tradition,we must choose a very 'good moment' (gio hoang dao) to going take the bride to marriage ceremony,but taking account the highly seriousness of the stuff,the guy who went to take his future wife was just blocked at the gate by the security staff because he is not the citizen of the city.:ohno: :bash:
The poor guy has taken more than an hour to explain to the security and the bride has just cried for hours after that incident.What a luxury services!!!!!!!!!!!
Adding to all that,no market or super market nearby,no leisures nearby and when the night is falling,the city is just like a dead one like in horror movie.
noi' va^y. co' wa' voi. vang` ko^? du` sao cung~ chi moi bat' dau` thoi ma`. Ve` sau co cai mall to trinh` inh` ngay ben canh. thi` sao?
Con` chuyen. co^ da^u chu re? kia la` loi~ cua fia' ja dinh`, ko thoa? thuan. truoc' voi ben lanh~ dao. va` security cua Ciputra. Bay jo` co hypothesis rang`: 1 thang` an cap' mac. do` chu' re^? dong' ja? vao` an ca(p' thi` sao. Noi chung la cai ji` cung~ co' ... nguyen tac'. Nguoi` HN van chua bao jo` the hien minh` la` 1 nguoi` ... co' fai? fep' ca?, it vi cong. dong`, thuong dua ca' nha^n le^n tre^n truoc'. Chep. Em la` nguoi` HN nhung em buoc. fia noi ra nhu the' .... Buo`n ghe^ go*m' lun
Saigoneseguy December 19th, 2006, 08:44 PM Service muốn tốt phải bắt nguồn từ tinh thần tự nguyện phấn khởi của người phục vụ, người phục vụ không nên tự g̣ ép tâm lư. Phục vụ là dịch vụ, không phải nô dịch :)
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Oh, the background, the background.......... it's so messy.
tq December 20th, 2006, 02:22 PM don't worry...will be all demolished soon...I guess...vi dat day la dat du an ma!!! Besides, you will get a different feeling when standing in front of those houses...Tay Ho area is really beautiful!
fatcat December 21st, 2006, 09:25 AM Service muốn tốt phải bắt nguồn từ tinh thần tự nguyện phấn khởi của người phục vụ, người phục vụ không nên tự g̣ ép tâm lư. Phục vụ là dịch vụ, không phải nô dịch :)
Phục vụ là dịch vụ là đúng rồi.Vậy dịch vụ là hàng hoá và có giá cả của nó bạn ah.Người ta ở đó phải trả bao nhiều services fee,bạn có biết không ?Tôi là người Hà nội nên mỗi lần từ sân bay Nội Bài về là thấy chướng mắt không thể chịu được.Không biết có bao nhiêu chi tiết kiến trúc Ả Rập với cả của Indo chả có ǵ liên quan với một thành phố Đông Á như Hà nội cả.Có lẽ mang vào Sàig̣n th́ hợp hơn.Với cả khoản dịch vụ th́ SG ăn đứt rồi.Ở SG rơ ràng lắm,dịch vụ là hàng hoá mà phải có giá của nó.Mà có giá rồi,trả tiền rồi th́ không thể phục vụ thế nào cũng đc.Vào WTO rồi th́ không thể nghĩ như thế được.
fatcat December 21st, 2006, 09:29 AM noi' va^y. co' wa' voi. vang` ko^? du` sao cung~ chi moi bat' dau` thoi ma`. Ve` sau co cai mall to trinh` inh` ngay ben canh. thi` sao?
Con` chuyen. co^ da^u chu re? kia la` loi~ cua fia' ja dinh`, ko thoa? thuan. truoc' voi ben lanh~ dao. va` security cua Ciputra. Bay jo` co hypothesis rang`: 1 thang` an cap' mac. do` chu' re^? dong' ja? vao` an ca(p' thi` sao. Noi chung la cai ji` cung~ co' ... nguyen tac'. Nguoi` HN van chua bao jo` the hien minh` la` 1 nguoi` ... co' fai? fep' ca?, it vi cong. dong`, thuong dua ca' nha^n le^n tre^n truoc'. Chep. Em la` nguoi` HN nhung em buoc. fia noi ra nhu the' .... Buo`n ghe^ go*m' lun
Người ta ở trong đó th́ thứ nhất người ta được mời ai ng ta thích chứ.Người ta có lời nói rồi th́ bảo vệ phải thi hành mệnh lệnh.Đó là một.THứ 2,chuyện cưới hỏi là một chuyện lớn làm như vậy là không có t́nh người và vô văn hoá.Ai đời bỏ cả tỷ để mua một cái biệt thự rồi hàng tháng đóng hang triệu cho ng ta rồi để con rể nó cũng ko cho vào nhà.Chả phải chuyện của ḿnh cũng bức xúc lắm.:ohno: :ohno:
pipapipo310 December 21st, 2006, 08:17 PM em thấy người HN đă đánh mất quá nhiều v́ cái gọi là kiến trúc truyền thống (kiến trúc cổ + kiến trúc thông thường). Con người là sống v́ tương lai chứ không phải sống v́ quá khứ. Thay bằng dựa vào những kiến trúc "đông đô- thăng long với Mái NGói, và Điêu khắc rồng bay, chúng ta nên tạo ra 1 kiến trúc mới. Bên cạnh đó phát huy việc bảo tồn các kiên trúc cũ, không đập đi là được. Không chỉ thế em c̣n bất b́nh với những kiến trúc theo kiểu Hoa Sen. Nơi thật nó chẳng đẹp chút nào. Có cái tháp Hoa Biển ở Nha Trang ư (em cũng chẳng biết nó là cái thể loại hoa ǵ) nhưng mà nó xấu, không phải kiến trúc hiện đại cũng chẳng cổ xưa. Em thấy cái người tạo ra nó cũng chỉ v́ bám theo cái gọi là "có tính truyền thống văn hóa th́ sẽ được chọn. Có nhiều cái vô lí nữa. Thí dụ nhiều ông lắm tiền lắm của thi nhau vào tạo những khu Du lịch VĂn Hóa, rồi ǵ ǵ đấy, xây núi bằng Xi măng, xây nhà (theo kiến trúc cổ) xấu xí , vô hồn, và rất bêu riếu cái kiến trúc original. Nói chung là nhiều cái hiện nay trông rất Nhân tạo và Vô hồn.
Rồi c̣n chuyện nhà nhấp nhổm, sơn xanh sơn đỏ. Cái này bên cơ quan Quy Hoạch đáng trách lắm.
nói chunglà em uất ức cái bộ phận lănh đạo của VN. Ờ th́ nhận hối lộ. Nhưng bên tàu họ nhận hối lộ rồi cái sản phảm vẫn đẹp , c̣n VN th́ có thể nói là sự .. xỉ nhục. Hix.
tq December 22nd, 2006, 01:53 AM Villas and ParkLane Towers
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Credit to http://preya.blogspot.com/2006/08/ciputra-hanoi-international-city.html
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another_viet December 26th, 2006, 12:31 AM woah nice fountains
pipapipo310 December 26th, 2006, 02:59 AM Can anyone post picture of ParkLane appartment's samples? (about 3 samples). I saw it, just now wanna see it again :D
tq January 21st, 2007, 12:03 PM Photos by haphanthu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62098005@N00/)
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Blue_Sky January 21st, 2007, 12:35 PM This project is soo Indonesian :D
I personally think this project really suit with Vietnam cities
Beautiful housing complex :okay:
ncon January 21st, 2007, 12:58 PM ^^ very typical type of Indonesian :lol:
coolink January 21st, 2007, 03:50 PM what are you talking about indonesian style?
have you followed the project? the entire new urban is neo-classical French, from houses to apartments
they used French architecture to blend in with Hanoi old colonila heritage
Starscream January 21st, 2007, 07:13 PM Bang you bloody wanker, why do you always sound so proud of the colonial era? Do you know what awful things the French were doing during those times?
another_viet January 21st, 2007, 08:33 PM vietnamese are trying to find their distinct style
soo dude just chill
coolink January 21st, 2007, 11:25 PM ooooo "bloody wanker" how european this time
please teach me more on what the French did to Vietnam...I want to learn
coolink January 22nd, 2007, 12:02 AM ey how many apartment towers will be built in this project? I counted over 30 , but not sure if they made any new changes
Siddude January 22nd, 2007, 12:43 AM starscreamer dude,
Yes, we know how awful French colonialism is or was! Do you know how awful Ho's communism is? No Vietnamese fled by the millions from Vietnam in all of French 70 year old rule. Yet, Vietnam Cong Sang managed to spread 3 million Vietnamese to all the 4 corners of the world in its 50 + years of monopolistic rule. Please explain or elaborate to me this condition!
Could it be because of Totalitarianism? The experience of Vietnam is not unique in the world. The rafters fleeing Cuba fled for same reason. East Germans tunneling to West Germany fled for the same reason. It is a commonality of all Leninist communist states that they produced refugees. Demonization of French rule for all Vietnam's problems is an excuse for the VC misrule.
sqd January 22nd, 2007, 12:58 AM starscreamer dude,
Yes, we know how awful French colonialism is or was! Do you know how awful Ho's communism is? No Vietnamese fled by the millions from Vietnam in all of French 70 year old rule. Yet, Vietnam Cong Sang managed to spread 3 million Vietnamese to all the 4 corners of the world in its 50 + years of monopolistic rule. Please explain or elaborate to me this condition!
LOL, am I having a hearing problem or what? Do you even know that during the colonial time, there was zero Western nations that would agree to take in any Vietnamese economic refugees? The country that you worship like a God, USA, even backed the French colonialism in Vietnam and prevented Vietnam from achieving freedom and independence from the French
Siddude January 22nd, 2007, 01:43 AM LOL.. ok, the country is independent now why the mask of totalitarian communism? hmmm.. maybe, because the VC view the preservation of power is more sacrosant than the interest of the nation. Don't assume what a person worship? Why do you and some VC worship Ho like a living God? The Russians don't worship Lenin like a God anymore! He's just a historical figure. They even reburied some of his rivals (Anton Denikin:White Czarist general) in Russia again.
You like to use selective history huh. Do you have an understanding of the COLD WAR between the West and USSR? If you would like me to explain, I will but be specific because I do not have the time.
pipapipo310 January 22nd, 2007, 01:49 AM dont screw up this thread lar~
you ppl, so idiotic~
Blue_Sky January 22nd, 2007, 02:08 AM what are you talking about indonesian style?
have you followed the project? the entire new urban is neo-classical French, from houses to apartments
they used French architecture to blend in with Hanoi old colonila heritage
I'm sorry if create confussion here
I mean the houses complex is very much similar with Indonesia houses complex with mediteranian style, high fences, or european style statue.
Beside Ciputra is an Indonesian company, maybe that explain all the simillarities
Blue_Sky January 22nd, 2007, 02:11 AM Sorry to interupt again
But its a pity if u guys turn this thread to a bashing and fighting thread because lots of ppl out there (like me) is curious to see the development here
This is one of my favorite project in Vietnam
pipapipo310 January 22nd, 2007, 02:24 AM Sorry to interupt again
But its a pity if u guys turn this thread to a bashing and fighting thread because lots of ppl out there (like me) is curious to see the development here
This is one of my favorite project in Vietnam
u r welcome :banana:
Saigoneseguy January 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM How come that statement could even stir up a debate?
Talking about Vietnamese bad habits eh.
pipapipo310 January 23rd, 2007, 03:51 AM [CIPUTRA, Hanoi] Suspend 5 guardians fought one worker seriously wounded.
Ciputra to stop contract with Dong A Security Service.
Someone translate ... so lazy eh~ :lol:
Ciputra đ́nh chỉ 5 bảo vệ đánh trọng thương thợ xây
Sáng 22/1, trao đổi với VnExpress, ông Michael Schmitt, Trưởng pḥng công sản, Ban quản lư Ciputra, cho biết, đă đ́nh chỉ công tác 5 bảo vệ liên quan đến vụ đánh trọng thương thợ xây Phạm Thanh Sơn. Những người này là nhân viên của Công ty bảo vệ Đông Á.
"Tôi thực sự bị sốc khi nhận được thông tin bảo vệ do chúng tôi thuê lại có hành vi bắt giữ người trái pháp luật và hành hung gây thương tích. Nếu c̣n xảy ra t́nh trạng tương tự, Ciputra sẽ cương quyết chấm dứt hợp đồng với Công ty bảo vệ Đông Á", ông Michael Schmitt nói.
Cũng theo ông Michael Schmitt, đây là lần đầu tiên bảo vệ hành hung gây thương tích, kể từ khi Ciputra đi vào hoạt động. Ciputra hợp đồng thuê Công ty bảo vệ Đông Á bảo vệ ṿng ngoài, c̣n bảo vệ của Ciputra bảo vệ ṿng trong của khu đô thị. Vị trưởng pḥng cho rằng, việc xử lư kỷ luật những nhân viên này thuộc thẩm quyền của Công ty Đông Á, tuy nhiên Ciputra đă quyết định không cho 5 nhân viên này làm ở Ciputra.
Sáng 20/1, anh Phạm Thanh Sơn, 36 tuổi, cán bộ Công ty Đầu tư xây dựng và phát triển kiến trúc (ADA) vào đón 2 người thợ đang làm trong khu đô thị Ciputra (Hà Nội). Ba người đi chung xe máy ra tới cổng th́ bị bảo vệ chặn lại, với lư do trong khu đô thị không được "kẹp" 3. Những người này bắt anh Sơn vào pḥng bảo vệ để làm việc. Khi anh này vừa vào, 5 bảo vệ đi theo, khóa cửa lại và hành hung.
Đại úy Khuất Mạnh Thuyết, Phó trưởng Công an phường Phú Thượng, quận Tây Hồ, xác nhận sự việc trên là có thật. Công an phường đă lập biên bản và xác định được 1 trong số 4 bảo vệ đánh anh Sơn là Ḷ Văn Sướng (22 tuổi, Lai Châu).
fatcat January 23rd, 2007, 03:59 PM Remember what i said on the 1st page,the security guys there are sucks.They are there to create troubles.Bunch of useless.....International city my arse......
pipapipo310 January 23rd, 2007, 07:38 PM Opimistic dudes. There just very first step. VN even dont has proffesional Guradian meet International Quality. We r just creating now. Moreover, Northern ppl have a very bad temper/ easily to become angry. haha. look at urself. how angry u r leh~!?!
Saigoneseguy January 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM Are n't you Northern ppl too? :)
Eat more sweet stuff, it helps change the temper.
tq January 23rd, 2007, 08:28 PM oh thats so riiiiiite...my whole family on my father's side are so easily to become angry...its so funny...me included ^_^
same as the sec guards @ Trang Tien Plaza...they look all really unfriendly -.-...I can't stand out hose guys...I'm getting myself angry when seeing such dudes at Noi Bai Airport looking soo arrogant!!!
fatcat January 23rd, 2007, 08:41 PM Are n't you Northern ppl too? :)
Eat more sweet stuff, it helps change the temper.
haha,thanks for your advice.I'll try to do something about that.But i love Canh chua ca' Southern Style.So tasty....:)
pipapipo310 January 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM damn! why did u mention CANH CHUA CÁ here :((
coolink January 24th, 2007, 04:11 AM north people don't have hot temper, we're just chửi giỏi
that's it.
i mean get to know us, we are the happiest, most easy going and most down on earth you could find.......we're so down on earth that we're below earth....we're in the basement
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vn1975victory March 19th, 2007, 01:21 AM http://static.flickr.com/100/285674076_ebe70f0daf.jpg
I'm curious, how much does a townhouse like this cost?
Thanks!
famster March 19th, 2007, 03:08 AM I'm curious, how much does a townhouse like this cost?
Thanks!
Uh..., I don't think those in the photo are called "townhouses" in VN! I believe they are called "villas" instead.
A 2br/2ba condo at The Manor in HCMC started at 150K USD about a year ago. At the time, the same unit in Manor Hanoi cost a little bit less. This year's price? I heard that prices have gone up 15-20% the past year. And that was the price for the smallest unit (approx. 100 m2 or 900 sf). All foreigners and Viet Kieus can have a 50 year lease which is automatically renewable for another 50 years. You can resell it to anyone anytime. Reselling to VK or foreigners will just pass the lease to the new owners. Reselling to a Vietnamese citizen, it will be wholly owned like any other transaction. The 50-year lease also states that should the laws change in the future to allow VK or foreigners to own land in VN, the lease will then become an ownership.
Villas are more expensive, of course. Those in the photo probably costs around 400K USD because a similar one but free-standing (small side yards on both sides) in Saigon South costs around 500K USD.
vn1975victory March 19th, 2007, 03:40 AM Thanks buddy.
The price is too expensive for me :-(
In the US I can buy a "villa" (3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 240m2 of house and garage on 500m2 of land) for about $200K. In more expensive cities it can be $400K - $500K or more.
$200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family.
Vietnam really need a lot more competition in housing market.
By the way, what is the selling percentage of those Ciputra "villas"? Are they all sold out or 50% sold or ...?
Thanks!
famster March 19th, 2007, 05:25 AM Thanks buddy.
The price is too expensive for me :-(
In the US I can buy a "villa" (3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 240m2 of house and garage on 500m2 of land) for about $200K. In more expensive cities it can be $400K - $500K or more.
$200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family.
Vietnam really need a lot more competition in housing market.
By the way, what is the selling percentage of those Ciputra "villas"? Are they all sold out or 50% sold or ...?
Thanks!
I'm not familiar with Ciputra so I will leave it to someone in Hanoi area who knows about it.
When I quoted you those prices, they were for top-of-the-line housing projects for rich people only! There are many other more 'affordable' housing projects in both Saigon and Hanoi. A friend of mine just bought a condo unit in Saigon for about 25K usd. That one is only 1 bd/ba with about 500 sf of living space. My nephew bought a condo in Hanoi for about 70K. So prices vary depending how luxurious it is.
In general, with about 50K, you can buy a nice condo in either city.
vn1975victory March 19th, 2007, 06:01 AM I'm not familiar with Ciputra so I will leave it to someone in Hanoi area who knows about it.
When I quoted you those prices, they were for top-of-the-line housing projects for rich people only! There are many other more 'affordable' housing projects in both Saigon and Hanoi. A friend of mine just bought a condo unit in Saigon for about 25K usd. That one is only 1 bd/ba with about 500 sf of living space. My nephew bought a condo in Hanoi for about 70K. So prices vary depending how luxurious it is.
In general, with about 50K, you can buy a nice condo in either city.
Can I buy a 65 - 70m2 condo in Phu My Hung for about 40 - 50K?
I'm thinking of buying one for my parents.
famster March 19th, 2007, 06:39 AM Victory,
Here's a website that you can find more info on housing in VN:
http://www.izproperty.com/index.php?option=com_hotproperty&task=viewtype&id=8&Itemid=55
I saw some Saigon South projects on there, too. They might not always list prices on there but you can always inquire via email. I am sure the sales people will be happy to provide the info.
Good luck!
Saigoneseguy March 19th, 2007, 03:46 PM Hope there will be something more than B grade apartments...
coolink March 20th, 2007, 03:04 AM if you buy an expensive house in Vn you will have a nice house and you will survive.
if you buy a cheap house.....someday sitting in your living room a and a piece of concrete drop down and say hello to you......or the water pipes in the washroom suddenly feel the urge to smile at you....or the toilet from above fell in love with you........you will see Saint Peters so fast
Baria March 20th, 2007, 05:43 PM Thanks buddy.
The price is too expensive for me :-(
In the US I can buy a "villa" (3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 240m2 of house and garage on 500m2 of land) for about $200K. In more expensive cities it can be $400K - $500K or more.
$200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family.
Vietnam really need a lot more competition in housing market.
By the way, what is the selling percentage of those Ciputra "villas"? Are they all sold out or 50% sold or ...?
Thanks!
Victory,
You can buy houses cheaper in the US. Read on:
Houses cheaper than cars in Detroit By Kevin Krolicki
Mon Mar 19, 11:48 AM ET
DETROIT (Reuters) - With bidding stalled on some of the least desirable residences in Detroit's collapsing housing market, even the fast-talking auctioneer was feeling the stress.
"Folks, the ground underneath the house goes with it. You do know that, right?" he offered.
After selling house after house in the Motor City for less than the $29,000 it costs to buy the average new car, the auctioneer tried a new line: "The lumber in the house is worth more than that!"
As Detroit reels from job losses in the U.S. auto industry, the depressed city has emerged as a boomtown in one area: foreclosed property.
It also stands as a case study in the economic pain from a housing bust as analysts consider whether a developing crisis in mortgages to high-risk borrowers will trigger a slowdown in the broader U.S. economy.
The rising cost of mortgage financing for Detroit borrowers with weak credit has added to the downdraft from a slumping local economy to send home values plunging faster than many investors anticipated a few months ago.
At a weekend sale of about 300 Detroit-area houses by Texas-based auction firm Hudson & Marshall, the mood was marked more by fear than greed.
"These people are investors and they know the difficulty of finding financing. They know the difficulty of finding good tenants. They're cautious," said realtor Stanley Wegrzynowicz, who attended the auction.
HOW LOW IS LOW?
The city, which has lost more than half its population in the past 30 years and struggled with rising crime, failing schools and other social problems, largely missed out on the housing boom that swept much of the country in recent years.
Prices have gained less than 2 percent per year in the five years since 2001, when the auto industry entered a renewed slump.
Steve Izairi, 32, who re-financed his own house in suburban Dearborn and sold his restaurant to begin buying rental properties in Detroit two years, was concerned that houses he thought were bargains at $70,000 two years ago were now selling for just $35,000.
At least 16 Detroit houses up for sale on Sunday sold for $30,000 or less.
A boarded-up bungalow on the city's west side brought $1,300. A four-bedroom house near the original Motown recording studio sold for $7,000.
"You can't buy a used car for that," said Izairi. "It's a gamble, and you have to wonder how low it's going to get."
Detroit, where unemployment runs near 14 percent and a third of the population lives in poverty, leads the nation in new foreclosure filings, according to tracking service RealtyTrac.
With large swaths of the city now abandoned, banks are reclaiming and reselling Detroit homes from buyers who can no longer afford payments at seven times the national rate.
Michigan was the only state to see home prices fall in 2006. The national average price rose almost 6 percent but prices slipped 0.4 percent here, according to a federal study.
The state's jobless rate of 7.1 percent in January was also the second highest in the nation, behind only Mississippi.
HOW MUCH CAN YOU BUY FOR $1 MILLION?
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was greeted with applause when he announced last week that two condominiums in the city's revitalizing downtown sold for over $1 million each.
But investors, including some from out of state, proved far more cautious at Sunday's auction.
In the most spirited bidding of the day, a sprawling, four-bedroom mansion from Detroit's boom days with an ornate stone entrance fetched just $135,000.
Dave Webb, principal at Hudson & Marshall, said Michigan had become a "heavy volume" market for his auction firm in recent years, although bigger-money deals were waiting in California, a market he said was ready for the first such auctions of repossessed property in years.
"These people that are buying have got to look at holding on for five to seven years," he said. "The key is holding power."
Even with the steep discounts on Detroit-area properties, some buyers handed over their deposits with a wince.
"I'm not sure it's congratulations," said Kirk Neal, a 55-year-old auto body shop worker who bought a ranch in the suburb of Oak Park for $34,000. "My wife is going to kill me."
Realtor Ron Walraven had a three-bedroom house in the suburb of Bloomfield Hills that had listed for $525,000 sell for just $130,000 at the auction.
"Once we've seen the last person leave Michigan, then I think we'll be able to say we've seen the bottom," he said.
glitz_boy March 20th, 2007, 05:59 PM @bluesky ....
pic below .. see the flag of vietnam and indo side by side .. i guess it explains why it is so indonesian to us ... just looks like ciputra township in my hometown .. including the gate :)
but 150k USD? a bit too expensive compared to the similar size in Surabaya Ciputra township .... maybe bcoz viet ppl is richer than us ^_^
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vn1975victory March 20th, 2007, 06:34 PM @bluesky ....
pic below .. see the flag of vietnam and indo side by side .. i guess it explains why it is so indonesian to us ... just looks like ciputra township in my hometown .. including the gate :)
but 150k USD? a bit too expensive compared to the similar size in Surabaya Ciputra township .... maybe bcoz viet ppl is richer than us ^_^
Unfortunately we're poorer :ohno:
$1500/m2 for a condo is ridiculous for the level of income in Vietnam.
That's why I said we need more and more competition. Hopefully the price will go down in the next few years just like what happened to the telcom sector. However unlike telcom, the land is controlled by the government. If the current builders have good connection and lobby they will restrict the release of land for future projects, and we'll be doomed.
By the way, what's the average cost for a condo in your Surabaya Ciputra township.
Saigoneseguy March 20th, 2007, 07:32 PM 1500/m2 is like the price of some shops house in Nguyen Hue avenue in downtown Saigon :ohno:
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vietguy1 May 11th, 2007, 05:59 PM [QUOTE=Thanks buddy.
The price is too expensive for me :-(
In the US I can buy a "villa" (3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 240m2 of house and garage on 500m2 of land) for about $200K. In more expensive cities it can be $400K - $500K or more.
$200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family.
Vietnam really need a lot more competition in housing market.
By the way, what is the selling percentage of those Ciputra "villas"? Are they all sold out or 50% sold or ...?
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hahahah, you too shallow dude! True, $ 200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family, which means each person in that house make about 35,000 dollars. Therefore, I don't think they can pay off their house in 15 years or so, not to mention if one of their member lose his/her job. It's not like their combined income in two years is 200K then they will be able to pay off their mortgage in two years. kekekeke
coolink May 12th, 2007, 12:41 AM exactly
this person don't want to pay taxes, food, utillities, entertainment, cars, insurances.
if I don't pay all the crap above, right now I myself have more than $ 200k
vn1975victory May 12th, 2007, 02:52 AM hahahah, you too shallow dude! True, $ 200K is about 2 years of gross income of an average family, which means each person in that house make about 35,000 dollars. Therefore, I don't think they can pay off their house in 15 years or so, not to mention if one of their member lose his/her job. It's not like their combined income in two years is 200K then they will be able to pay off their mortgage in two years. kekekeke
Thanks for lighten me up, dude :)
Did I say anywhere that an average family in the US only need to save for 2 years to pay off their house?
I just wanted to use some number so we all have an idea if housing in VN is expensive. The number to compare is average home price / average gross annual income ratio.
The higher the number, the more expensive housing is (compared to income).
In the US, this ratio is 2. In Vietnam, it's probably 25.
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cozak June 2nd, 2007, 08:31 PM It's nice, too. What does "Ciputra" mean?
tq June 3rd, 2007, 01:25 AM CIputra is the name of an indonesian man, the founder of Ciputra, the company...
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Dự án khu đô thị Nam Thăng Long
Tổng diện tích: 394,135 ha
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tq June 14th, 2007, 07:51 PM beautiful! Ciputra has some areas where it looks like the villa zone in Ba Dinh with every kind of trees and plants...so lovely!
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tq June 14th, 2007, 07:59 PM they might been posted by myself already...dunno either...but its what I meant with villa zone in Ba Dinh!
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hanwairen June 14th, 2007, 09:11 PM beautiful! Ciputra has some areas where it looks like the villa zone in Ba Dinh with every kind of trees and plants...so lovely!
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This looks kind of funny. Does the developer try to make it like the Arc de Triomphe in Paris. I do not think it goes well at all.
tq June 14th, 2007, 09:14 PM hehe^^....u will get a different feeling when u stand in front of it!
hanwairen June 14th, 2007, 09:25 PM Hopefully I'll be there in July on the way from China.
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kiva.ld July 8th, 2008, 06:26 AM Hanoi's so beautiful.
Cheers,
Saigoneseguy July 8th, 2008, 02:47 PM Heh looks good, too bad ti's justr a condo.
popcorn69 July 8th, 2008, 04:28 PM Heh looks good, too bad ti's justr a condo.
Can you translate your language ? My english is too bad to understand
tuyennd July 10th, 2008, 11:22 AM http://www1.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/linglang/ciputract2.jpg
coolink July 10th, 2008, 06:08 PM Can you translate your language ? My english is too bad to understand
canadian version
lơơks gơod eh? tơo bad tis just a condo
tq July 11th, 2008, 04:23 PM I wish they could redesign the rest of the masterplan giving the whole area a more Vietnamese identity. They certainly should change the design of Ciputra Mall which is too American to me. However, Ciputra is a great place to live with all-round facilities like PMH but it looks so wrongly placed.
tuyennd July 14th, 2008, 04:25 AM Hai toà đang xây phí Hồ Tây
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Hai toà đang xây phí Cầu Thăng Long
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tq July 18th, 2008, 01:02 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/2676658555_20787e05e2_o.jpg
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tq July 18th, 2008, 01:05 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2676651075_9ba3bf8c08_o.jpg
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Chadster93 July 18th, 2008, 04:18 AM Same main gate as Grand Phnom Penh International city. :bash:
http://www.ylpgroup.com/gallery/new/gpp8.jpg
Different master plan though. :)
http://www.ylpgroup.com/gallery/800/masterplan.jpg
tq July 18th, 2008, 09:08 AM yup, we already know that. It is perhaps the "logo" of the company. However, still kinda weird. I've seen villa pics of that Ciputra in Phnom Penh, and I like them more. They look more frenchy. Hanoi's villas tend to be a little bit more antique/ Greek :/
chinatown July 20th, 2008, 05:17 AM vào đây mà xem t́nh h́nh xây dựng ở Phnom Penh, nhiều dự án lớn ghê, có cái Kamko City nh́n đă thật, chắc đấy là International City hả?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=573861
tq July 20th, 2008, 11:12 AM yes, totally stunning. I'm curious how Vientiane is doing. Based on pics it must be a wonderful place. I hope to have a chance to be there this year.
kiva.ld July 22nd, 2008, 05:43 AM Hanoi Ciputra is the same Phu My Hung of Saigon. So beautiful ! :)
tq July 28th, 2008, 11:29 AM another school for CIputra
HÀ NỘI ACADEMY SCHOOL
- Land Area: 26.271m2.
- Estimated Construction Time: 02 years from August 2007
- Estimated Payback Period: within 07 years of school operation
- Estimated investment: around USD 8 million
The site is beautifully situated in Ciputra international City in Tay Ho district fronting Nguyen Hoang Ton avenue and right in the centre of the zone of the 1st phase of the City.
The school is designed by Archetype Group – a French architectural company. John Brown – an architect with years of international experience in school designing and the Design Director of Hanoi Branch – was directly involved in this project
The school is modernly designed and well-equipped with state-of-the-art facilities, including laboratories, libraries, music and art performance centre, indoor sport centre, stadium, playgrounds, cafeteria… and a lot of space and green trees to create a natural, dynamic and comfortable environment for the children.
http://www.idj.com.vn/home/editor/asset1/HAS1.jpg
http://www.idj.com.vn/home/editor/asset1/TH.jpg
http://www.idj.com.vn/home/editor/asset1/TV.jpg
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tq July 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM The initial ground breaking ceremony of an international standard primary and secondary school to be named Hanoi Academy School (HAS) will be held by IDJ Education on October 4th 2007 in Hanoi Ciputra International City, which is an international new town of high profile and market publicity. The school is strategically located on a 2.6ha site next to Nguyen Hoang Ton street and right in the centre of the first phase of the city.
IDJ Financial is a major shareholder of IDJ Education (representing 70% of the founding capital). The project to develop such a school in Ciputra Hanoi International City has been pursued by the American Education Company (AEC) – a private company with experience in education investment and management - for several years. Given the size of the project, IDJ Education was established by AEC and IDJ Financial to take charge of this project.
Competitive Advantages of HAS:
- Be positioned to benefit from serving a wealthy and well educated population in Ciputra Hanoi International City (within the next 8 years, there will be 50,000 residents in the area)
- A modern and comprehensive curriculum which is a combination of core curriculum required by Vietnam Ministry of Education and Training (MoET) and international education of excellent quality. Certain subjects will be delivered in English by native English speaking teachers to ensure that the pupils will have necessary qualifications to gain access to a wider range of higher education worldwide.
- An international standard campus on a 2.6 ha site with superb teaching and learning facilities and playgrounds.
- A comprehensive environment for mental, physical and soft skills development.
- Preservation of Vietnamese culture, identity and family bonds.
- Alleviation of time pressure on pupils with all required and elective subjects delivered during normal school hours.
- Considerably less expensive than overseas education.
HAS will target pupils not only in Ciputra Hanoi International City but also residents in other parts of Hanoi. The school will extend shuttle bus services to different districts in Hanoi.
International Cooperation:
HAS plans to cooperate with schools in Singapore, USA, Great Britain, Australia… to enhance the pedagogical methodologies of its faculty and improve its curriculum. This cooperation will also allow students to have internationally recognized qualifications and facilitate their access to higher education in such countries and worldwide.
Construction and Design:
Archetype Group – a French architectural firm has been contracted to do the master plan. John Brown – an architect with years of experience in school designing and the Design Director of Hanoi Branch – was directly involved in this project. The school is modernly designed and well-equipped with state-of-the-art facilities, including laboratories, libraries, music and art performance centre, indoor sport centre, stadium, playgrounds, cafeteria… and a lot of space and green trees to create a natural and comfortable environment for the children.
The school will have a positive impact on the attractiveness of Ciputra Hanoi International City which will then offer all vital services of high quality including education, health care, entertainment and commercials… Therefore, Ciputra’s management pays special attention to this school project.
Rationale for IDJ Financial’s engagement in education investment:
Big demand: In coming up with such a decision, IDJ Financial has conducted a broad-based survey with 1,200 families in Ciputra International City and other high income areas in Tay Ho District and its vicinity including Hoan Kiem, Ba Dinh, Trung Hoa – Nhan Chinh. The result showed that 78% of the families are willing to pay around USD 4,000 – 5,000 per year, as long as the learning environment is satisfactory.
It is estimated that there were about 100,000 Vietnamese students under 15 sent abroad for education in 2006. Without doubt, this figure does not reflect full demand for high quality education because sending children unsupervised overseas worries caring parents. In addition, fluency in English without a comparable fluency in Vietnamese puts children’s future ability to mix well and succeed in the Vietnamese society at a risk. Taking into account these factors, HAS devises a curriculum combining both the required subjects of MoET with some international ones to help children get a balance between Vietnamese traditional education and modern teaching and learning approaches and get familiar to overseas education at higher levels.
Vietnamese traditional fondness of learning: Vietnamese families always provide the best conditions for their children’s education. A child with good learning record is the pride not only of his/her parents but of the whole family.
Education is an investment: Asian families take education expenses for their children not only as a parental responsibility but also as a long-term investment. By paying for education and having successful children, parents can enjoy a relaxing and happy life during their old ages, thanks to the long-standing tradition of serving aged parents in Asia.
Education trend in the world: Nowadays more and more nations worldwide are taking education and health as major sectors in the economy. Developed countries see a rather high proportion of education sector in GDP. This explains why education and training advertisements are so prevalent in international media. In Asia, Singapore is a success story with education. In Vietnam, a number of professional investment institutions are intensely researching and seeking investment opportunities in this area, which makes it very trendy in the time to come.
By far, land prices for commercial and residential purposes in Ciputra Hanoi International City have gone up to over VND 50 million per m2. Therefore, residents in the area are all in high-income group. Besides, it is clear that it is not easy to find a site of this scale in Hanoi for education purposes. As a result, this project has been classified as one of the most important long term projects of IDJ Financial.
Frequently asked questions for IDJ Financial:
1. Why does IDJ Financial invest in such an education project?
IDJ Financial attaches importance to investment in education, which will not only deliver economic but huge social benefits as well. In addition, the demand for international standard education in Vietnam is rising. As a result, this sector becomes highly potential. Recently, several international standard schools in Vietnam have attained a profit rate of over 60%. The more developed the society is, the higher the demand for education.
2. What is the cooperation mechanism with Citra Westlake Development Co.?
IDJ Education has concluded a long-term land-leasing agreement with Citra Westlake Development Company – the developer of Ciputra Hanoi International City. Land rental is paid annually as a percentage of the school’s gross collection. With such an arrangement, IDJ Education does not have pay a large amount upfront to buy the land and only needs to arrange finance for the construction of the school. (Land prices for commercial and residential purposes in the area has grown up to VND 50 million per squared meter). Construction costs of the school are estimated to be around VND 130 million (about USD 8 million). The duration of the land-leasing agreement is 20 years, with the option to extend for another 15 years, which also coincides with the end of the Ciputra Hanoi International City project. Operation thereafter depends on the extension decision of the Government.
3. How long will the construction take?
Construction will be completed within two years starting from August 2007, which means the first school year will be from September 2007. From August 2008, the school will start with pupil enrolment and teacher recruitment for the first school year. The school will start having earnings in 2008.
4. When does the company begin to have profit? What is the intended payback period?
It is planned that the first revenue and profit will be generated in 2009. The intended payback period is 7 years.
5. What is the registered capital of IDJ Education?
The company’s registered capital is 80 bn dong, which is much smaller than its net present value (NPV) of 240 bn dong.
6. Can secondary investors make investment in this project?
Due to the scale of the project, institutional investors are invited to become shareholders of the company and priority will be given large investors.
7. Does IDJ Education have a plan for listing?
IDJ Education has a plan to be listed when meeting the requirements of the State Securities Commission, expected to be in 2010. Right from establishment, transparent corporate governance will be applied and audit will be done by internationally well-known auditing firms such as KPMG or Price Waterhouse Coopers.
8. What is the tentative tuition for pupils?
Tuitions will range between USD 4,000 to 5,000 per pupil per year. The exact figure is now being considered and a final decision will be announced when appropriate.
tq July 28th, 2008, 11:42 AM apparently they stop with the greek sculpures...that might be Vietnamese inspired!?
http://bp1.blogger.com/_Ey-jMJ9L1yQ/R-i1azPMdtI/AAAAAAAAAiE/1a-jsjY650w/s1600/IMG_1952.jpg
tq July 28th, 2008, 12:52 PM school is already big and after a few years in Ciputra, extension plans have been already made...man the school is growing so fast
construction time: 2008-10
"With the extension of three new buildings on the existing campus, UNIS is completing it’s high educational standard. The assignment is the designing of a new “Sports & Multi-purpose” building, an extension of the “Science & Technology” building and a new building for “Music & Arts”, including a 400 seat professional theater. The concept creates a new layer to the existing “courtyard concept” and adds new elements to it. A remarkable detail is the accessible roof garden of the new Music & Arts building. It is connected to the existing public campus space by an inviting staircase in the foyer."
http://www.rhvietnam.com/assets/projects/Buildings/000/1.jpg
http://www.rhvietnam.com/assets/projects/Buildings/000/4.jpg
http://www.rhvietnam.com/assets/projects/Buildings/000/2.jpg
http://www.rhvietnam.com/assets/projects/Buildings/000/3.jpg
tq July 28th, 2008, 03:23 PM http://www.tayho.gov.vn/tin_tuc_quan/Images/Image/do%20thi%20nam%20thang%20long%201.jpg
fuzzymemo July 31st, 2008, 05:32 AM the sculpture does not look like vietnamese inspire besides the fruit and the clothing, the figures, the shape, the bosoms, the lips, the eyes are definitely not Viet
popcorn69 August 1st, 2008, 04:55 PM the sculpture does not look like vietnamese inspire besides the fruit and the clothing, the figures, the shape, the bosoms, the lips, the eyes are definitely not Viet
agree with you ,look so dumb :bash::bash::bash:
AceN October 18th, 2008, 09:55 PM Has this ever been posted before ?
http://www.airmasasri.com/file/project/ciputra_hanoi_international_city_1.jpg
http://www.airmasasri.com/file/project/ciputra_hanoi_international_city_2.jpg
http://www.airmasasri.com/file/project/ciputra_hanoi_international_city_3.jpg
http://www.airmasasri.com/file/project/ciputra_hanoi_international_city_4.jpg
http://www.airmasasri.com/file/project/ciputra_hanoi_international_city_5.jpg
tq October 24th, 2008, 11:13 PM http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c2.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c3.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c4.jpg
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wulizhong October 25th, 2008, 02:38 AM Sao trông cái cửa sắt rỉ nhèm rẻ tiền đến mức ko thể chấp nhận được... :ohno:
tq October 25th, 2008, 05:56 PM any update on Hanoi Academy School at Nguyen Hoang Ton Street in Ciputra?
tq November 16th, 2008, 07:37 PM Photo by Long Pham
(http://flickr.com/people/ngoclong/)
co nhieu cay xanh lam Ciputra dep hon.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/3029429695_2ec7572a39_o.jpg
coolink November 17th, 2008, 06:34 AM school is already big and after a few years in Ciputra, extension plans have been already made...man the school is growing so fast
construction time: 2008-10
"With the extension of three new buildings on the existing campus, UNIS is completing it’s high educational standard. The assignment is the designing of a new “Sports & Multi-purpose” building, an extension of the “Science & Technology” building and a new building for “Music & Arts”, including a 400 seat professional theater. The concept creates a new layer to the existing “courtyard concept” and adds new elements to it. A remarkable detail is the accessible roof garden of the new Music & Arts building. It is connected to the existing public campus space by an inviting staircase in the foyer."
http://www.rhvietnam.com/assets/projects/Buildings/000/1.jpg
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cái này h́nh thiệt hay vẽ?
popcorn69 November 17th, 2008, 07:44 AM Lấy từ Google Earth rồi vẽ thêm đó
tq January 3rd, 2009, 08:22 PM Interior Design
apartment tower
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/11d3c4fe112adb73f91f8d34e40ece34-Cipu1.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/147670ca112adb7355cabb934e40ee73-cipu2.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/1405fa7d112adb7352f210e34e40ef53-cipu3.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/12243840112adb7330ee33334e40f053-cipu4.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/106fe73c112adb731453c4f34e40f3b3-cipu7.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/7a8590576fc0a1c799a42312c9ef23d5-A+%20302E5%20Ciputra%209.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/105c5bd4112adb7317680a734e40f793-cipu9.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/13923659112adb732b8ed2a34e40f8b3-cipu10.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/12548694112adb7337e5de734e40fab3-cipu11.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/4ddf14476fc0a13b231e52312c7a620a-A+%20302E5%20Ciputra%203.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/4c660d376fc0a13a9a0722312c7b020b-A+%20302E5%20Ciputra%204.jpg
http://www.acong.vn/webplus/attachments/6089ef876fc0a11675e592312c7ba227-A+%20302E5%20Ciputra%205.jpg
tq January 3rd, 2009, 08:37 PM http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0KozdH5RIpw/RzhZxVu9FvI/AAAAAAAABNE/HUcAggJ-sSM/s1600/DSC03658.JPG
tq January 8th, 2009, 09:55 PM Photo by blimppilot2000 / Tim Townsend (http://flickr.com/people/timtownsend/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3179780741_27c875d2df_b.jpg
tq January 11th, 2009, 11:21 PM Photos by Dinning / Stefan Dinning (http://flickr.com/people/30438724@N05/)
Ciputra Int'l City
Nam Thang Long
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3186943483_f7ac596282_o.jpg
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purespring January 13th, 2009, 03:31 AM Thấy ai cũng bảo kiến trúc của Ciputra xấu. Chỉ được cái tổng thể kéo lại, hehe.
bigvinh January 13th, 2009, 03:57 AM Thấy ai cũng bảo kiến trúc của Ciputra xấu. Chỉ được cái tổng thể kéo lại, hehe.
chuẩn đấy , nhà biệt thự phần lớn là xấu , kiến trúc lai căng hoàn toàn không hợp với hà nội . Mấy cái tượng cũng rất lố .
Mấy cái chung cư th́ có đỡ hơn.
Nhưng điều khó chịu nhất của Ciputra là nó được miếng đất tuyệt đẹp , giá đền bù rẻ như rau muống mà 11 năm qua chỉ xây nổi mỗi 6 cái chung cư và trăm cái biệt thự . Nếu như cho miếng đất đấy vào tay những thằng bất động sản có số má ở Việt Nam như Phú Mỹ Hưng hay Keppel Land hay Bitexco th́ giờ phải xong đến 60-70% rồi.
wulizhong January 13th, 2009, 08:32 AM Mấy thằng bạn Indo bảo, Ciputra ở Jakarta toàn là khu đô thị giá rẻ, cho người thu nhập thấp, hoặc hạng trung...
Mang sang HN lại thành hạng sang mới đau chứ
Hanoi_que_toi January 13th, 2009, 10:33 AM 51 năm nữa ḿnh mới bằng nó th́ như vậy cũng đúng chứ sai đâu
tq January 13th, 2009, 11:49 AM minh thay kien truc cua may cai apartment towers rat dep chu cai dome.
tq January 24th, 2009, 11:11 PM http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRvwVE-JIsI/AAAAAAAABAs/o_HTOZ49Cpk/s512/Guardhouse%20architecture.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRvzBxiprZI/AAAAAAAABBk/2cXfTj3SiME/s512/ciputra%20in%20the%20background.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRv0jJIHMoI/AAAAAAAABDo/3XZ-OGPKyOQ/s512/walkway%20in%20ciputra.jpg
I don't like this part of the apartment towers. kinda kitschy, too decorative.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRv0iAfEPVI/AAAAAAAABDY/YJMRs34Lr84/s512/ciputra%20buildings.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRv0iVpQoGI/AAAAAAAABDg/Upt1kqH9ISU/s512/houses%20in%20Ciputra.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_WTpL3cQ-ZKQ/SRv0jylbEmI/AAAAAAAABDw/fxFmBD2wjTc/s512/houses%20walkway%20in%20ciputra.jpg
tq January 24th, 2009, 11:45 PM Photo from AP Photo by Chitose Suzuki
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07NG9GO81D5O8/610x.jpg
tq January 30th, 2009, 12:11 AM UNIS - United Nations International School of Hanoi
http://www.cofico.com.vn/resources/Items/394/truonghocHN.jpg
phase II u/c since Dec 08
toanto86 February 1st, 2009, 02:21 AM quite a strange name -> United nations International school of Hanoi. Does it have anything to do with the UN?
CalvinDai February 1st, 2009, 03:26 AM what is CIPUTRA? can someone explain me that...
I'm sure its not viet is it coz im not getting it
wulizhong February 1st, 2009, 07:56 AM what is CIPUTRA? can someone explain me that...
I'm sure its not viet is it coz im not getting it
Google please! :bash:
It's an Indonesian Company :ohno:
tq February 1st, 2009, 09:45 AM @toanto86: yes it does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_International_School_of_Hanoi take a loook speciafilly on their logo. do you see any similarity between UN and UNIS?
@CalvinDai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciputra
CalvinDai February 1st, 2009, 06:54 PM what the hell is it? Wiki doesnt provide much info..
caokeuqn February 1st, 2009, 06:58 PM what the hell is it? Wiki doesnt provide much info..
Its just an Indonesian Company, which has invested in the Ciputra Nam Thang Long Urban Area project in Hanoi. I think this info is quite enough
tq February 1st, 2009, 07:04 PM @CalvinDai: Ciputra is an Indonesian tycoon who invested in the urban area in Hanoi. So it is called after his name. Was it so difficult to get it from the text?
oweeyman February 2nd, 2009, 10:13 AM wow! ciputra has a big project there??
he is my school owner here, in Jakarta!! wow! wow!
CalvinDai February 3rd, 2009, 02:03 AM oh ic
SilentAdmirer February 6th, 2009, 08:13 AM Ciputra is Indonesia Real Estate Pioneer.
He hold many group Indonesia Developer Company.
More pls visit: www.ciputra.com
http://www.ciputra.com/?url=home/index
CalvinDai February 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM What is Indonesia doing in Vietnam?
wulizhong February 7th, 2009, 03:00 AM What is Indonesia doing in Vietnam?
Just like other Malaysian, Philippine, Thai companies in VN
ASEAN is so much closer to each other now... :cheers:
tq February 7th, 2009, 09:58 PM Photos by Dindon (http://www.flickr.com/people/26688402@N07/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/3260992774_6b06538a62_o.jpg
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/3260158941_d840c98e61_o.jpg
wow...(in the background) you can see Ciputra's skyline is taking shape...it looks great
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/3243168637_fa19412ef5_o.jpg
tq February 7th, 2009, 11:06 PM Photo by Dindon (http://flickr.com/people/26688402@N07/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/3260625211_a3513ef1f3_o.jpg
tq February 21st, 2009, 03:42 PM Tiểu học và THCS Hà nội Academy - Ciputra
Chủ đầu tư: CTCP ĐT Phát triển Giáo dục IDJ-AEC
Địa điểm: Khu đô thị Ciputra- Hà Nội
Diện tích khu đất: 2,62ha
Đơn vị thiết kế : Công ty CP Kiến Trúc Xây Dựng Cảnh Quan Xanh VN
Khu đô thị Nam Thăng Long (Ciputra Hà Nội ) là một khu đô thị mới đầu tiên do nhà đầu tư Inđônêxia và Việt Nam hợp tác liên doanh xây dựng tại Hà Nội.
Chiều 4/10/2008, Công ty Cổ phần Đầu tư Giáo dục IDJ Education đă làm lễ động thổ xây dựng trường Tiểu học và THCS Hà Nội Academy School tại Khu đô thị Nam Thăng Long (Ciputra).
Hà Nội Academy School được xây dựng trên diện tích 2,62ha, có pḥng học, pḥng thí nghiệm, thư viện, pḥng học vi tính, ngoại ngữ, pḥng âm nhạc, nghệ thuật, sân vận động, nhà ăn... và không gian cây xanh thoáng rộng.
http://greenscape.archi.vn/upload/tong%20thechinh%20lai%20ok1.jpg
Cảnh quan trường học được tổ chức phục vụ các hoạt động chính như: tập trung, vui chơi, học tập, thể thao, lưu niệm.
Sân tập trung lớn bố trí các hàng cây long năo lớn, tỏa bóng mát cho sân trường. Bên cạnh sân khấu là khu tượng đài, bố trí nhũng bồn hoa trạng nguyên đỏ thắm. Hai bên khu vực tượng đài là hai cây lộc vừng x̣e tán, vừa có tính chất trang trí, vừa tỏa bóng mát cho lối vào trước nhà hiệu bộ.
http://greenscape.archi.vn/upload/goc%20cong%20truong1.jpg
Khu sân vui chơi trường mầm non được bố trí phù hợp với hoạt động thể chất ngoài trời, có băi cát, sân chơi, băi cỏ. Quanh khu vực c̣n có các đồ chơi màu sắc tươi sáng như cầu trượt, bập bênh, nhà đồ chơi. Tất cả nhằm tạo một môi trường nghỉ ngơi, vui chơi ngoài nhà cho trẻ.
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Khu vui chơi trường tiểu học có băi cỏ rộng bên cạnh sân lát gạch, tạo chỗ chơi cho trẻ trong mọi thời tiết.
Cây trồng khu vực này chủ yếu tạo bóng, che mát cho chỗ ngồi của phụ huynh dọc hàng rào.
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Khu vui chơi trường trung học cơ sở bố trí hai bên đường đi, có các cây bụi cao như dong riềng, chuối trang pháo, riềng hoa đỏ dưới chân cửa sổ. Những bồn cây bao quanh các gốc cau vua chính là chỗ ngồi ngoài trời cho trẻ. Khu vực này cũng được trang bị một số thiết bị thể thao như xà đơn, xà kép, xích đu cho trẻ vui chơi giờ giải lao.
http://greenscape.archi.vn/upload/trunghoc5.jpg
Trường học c̣n dành riêng một khoảnh đất để làm vườn thục vật, nơi trưng bày các bộ sưu tập cây quư như phong lan, hoa sung. Đây cũng là nơi trồng các cây ăn quả, cây minh họa cho nhũng truyền truyết văn hóa như trầu cau, sầu riêng…
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Khu vực giáp với đường Nguyễn Hoàng Tôn là nơi bố trí các cây lưu niệm, nơi các thế hệ học sinh có thể để lại một chút dấu ấn trong lịch sử phát triển của nhà trường.
http://greenscape.archi.vn/upload/luuniem3.jpg
Khu vực giáp nhà hiệu bộ là nơi bố trí sân thể thao, băi cỏ, vườn café. Nơi đây học sinh có thể vui chơi, luyện tập thể thao trong khi bố mẹ thong thả ngồi chờ trong quán café. Khu vực này được bố trí một cây phượng tím lớn, nhũng cây cau vua trang trí gốc bằng hoa ngũ sắc sẽ làm cảnh quan trở nên lộng lẫy. Khu vực cạnh nhà thể thao được bố trí băi xe lớn. Khu vực này được trồng viền bằng keo tai tượng nhằm tạo sự ngăn cách với khu nhà dân ngoài hàng rào.
http://greenscape.archi.vn/upload/goc%20san%20sau%204.jpg
Cảnh quan trường Tiểu học và trung học cơ sở Hà nội Academy đă được các KTS CT CPKTXD Cảnh quan xanh Việt Nam nghiên cứu, thiết kế kỹ lưỡng, nhằm nâng cao chất lượng giảng dạy cũng như môi trường giáo dục cho học sinh.
KTS.Nguyễn Thị Thanh Tùng
CT CPKTXD Cảnh quan xanh Việt Nam
tq February 21st, 2009, 03:43 PM http://greenscape.archi.vn/Thumbnails.asp?path=upload/Album20092101141231goc%20cong%20truong2.1-horz.jpg
CalvinDai February 21st, 2009, 05:57 PM So the city renamed to ciputra. Wtf, I dont understand the language. Someone explains it clear. Hanoi should not change its name, Hanoi and Hanoi 4ever
neonawesomeness February 21st, 2009, 06:01 PM The city didnt changed its name. It is just a Urban Area of hanoi. (Its an indonesian company.)
tq February 21st, 2009, 06:45 PM So the city renamed to ciputra. Wtf, I dont understand the language. Someone explains it clear. Hanoi should not change its name, Hanoi and Hanoi 4ever
it's not even the name of a district. it's the name of an urban area in Tay Ho District. You can prefere the official Vietnamese name if you want: KDT Nam Thang Long.
CalvinDai February 23rd, 2009, 12:13 AM So you're saying the urban Ciputra of Hanoi is owned by Ciputra..If it is named to something then it must be owned by that owner otherwise it should not be called by that named.
neonawesomeness February 24th, 2009, 04:08 AM So you're saying the urban Ciputra of Hanoi is owned by Ciputra..If it is named to something then it must be owned by that owner otherwise it should not be called by that named.
True but it is just putting its name for people to know who made this city.
So its not that big deal IMO.
tq February 26th, 2009, 08:32 PM Photo by TORCHIEMANA (http://flickr.com/people/torchiemana/)
apartment tower
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tq March 11th, 2009, 11:59 AM source: vapa.org.vn
old pics
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Tamjo April 2nd, 2009, 09:51 AM haiz, ông cậu em có 2 căn villa trong khu Ciputra ... hồi Tết ra chơi có wa ở thử cho biết cảm giác ở biệt thự nó thế nào ==> túm lại 1 câu cảm nhận của em là "ở đấy chán lắm" ... ko so với PMH đc đâu
Ở PMH ít ra cũng có đầy đủ dịch vụ, ăn uống cafe có tất ... ở Ciputra cứ như khu nhà hoang, về tới nhà rồi mún ra đg fải đi xa, c̣n gần đó th́ chả có ǵ. Tối là coi như 'bị giam lỏng' ấy ... buồn thúi ruột ra. Ở đc 3 bữa là em giăy đành đạch đ̣i về =.=
Hanoi_que_toi April 2nd, 2009, 10:53 AM Ciputra đă hoàn thiện xong đâu mà chả kô có ǵ hả cậu ? Chờ nó xong cái Ciputra Mall cậu muốn trà đá,nc mía hay star bucks ǵ đều có hết
caokeuqn April 2nd, 2009, 11:59 AM Nhưng ḿnh nghĩ trà đá, nước mía bún, quẩy th́ khó mà đỡ nổi giá thuê ở đây:ohno:
tq April 2nd, 2009, 01:02 PM Ciputra is a very idyllic place. There are several coffee shops, boutiques and fast food chains such as BBQ Chicken on the ground floor of every apartment tower.
danion April 2nd, 2009, 02:16 PM Nhưng ḿnh nghĩ trà đá, nước mía bún, quẩy th́ khó mà đỡ nổi giá thuê ở đây:ohno:
Tôi nghĩ là cũng có thể có chứ, chỉ có giá của nó th́ là giá ở đây :)
Tamjo April 3rd, 2009, 08:19 AM em nghĩ chắc cũng đỡ nổi ... với điều kiện 1 ly trà đá nó chém bác 20k th́ may ra ... jống kiểu mấy wán trà sữa mà bán ở PMH th́ 50K/ly thay v́ 15k như ở quận khác =]] ... hài dễ sợ
heavyrain2408 April 3rd, 2009, 10:38 PM Ciputra đă hoàn thiện xong đâu mà chả kô có ǵ hả cậu ? Chờ nó xong cái Ciputra Mall cậu muốn trà đá,nc mía hay star bucks ǵ đều có hết
Nói đến Starbucks: ở VN ḿnh đă có quán Starbucks nào chưa nhỉ? ^^
Cafe' Trung Nguyên hồi mới ra thấy c̣n có tí bản sắc, giờ thấy loạn quá, không giống Starbucks đi đâu cũng thấy giống hệt nhau :cheers:
Hanoi_que_toi April 4th, 2009, 04:05 AM Thằng StarBucks nghe nói đang t́m đối tác kinh doanh...Nói về tính đồng nhất th́ VN kô bằng tụi tư bản.Bên Nhật,các cửa hàng trong chuỗi restaurant đi đâu cũng giống hệt nhau,giống từ vị trí,kiến trúc ngoại thất nội thât,đến khẩu vị món ăn,mọi người đi ăn ở 100 nơi th́ chất lượng đều giống hệt nhau hết
caokeuqn April 4th, 2009, 04:29 AM Nói đến Starbucks: ở VN ḿnh đă có quán Starbucks nào chưa nhỉ? ^^
Cafe' Trung Nguyên hồi mới ra thấy c̣n có tí bản sắc, giờ thấy loạn quá, không giống Starbucks đi đâu cũng thấy giống hệt nhau :cheers:
As far as I know, Only KFC has set a chain of stores in Vietnam. There haven't got Mc Donald, Starbuck, Subway, Burger King, etc.
But I think it's kind of diffilcult for them to compete against Vietnamese bánh mỳ ba tê, quán vỉa hè kind of thing :lol:
Hanoi_que_toi April 4th, 2009, 05:39 AM Tớ khoái bánh ḿ ba tê hơn Mc Donald,khoái nâu đá hơn StarBucks,c̣n KFC,Pizza Hut th́ càng chán hơn
caokeuqn April 4th, 2009, 05:51 AM Đa phần mấy cái đồ ăn nhanh của bọn Tây này đều cực kỳ ít rau, ăn mấy lần đầu c̣n thấy được, chứ ăn nhiều th́ ngán ko đỡ nổi
tq April 4th, 2009, 12:49 PM http://www.hanoitimes.com.vn/images_upload/small_6293.jpg
tq April 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM Ciputra co ba truong hoc to roi. ma chua co cai mall nao ca.
Hanoi Academy
http://hanoiacademy.edu.vn/upload/ha/image/20090225/footer_bg_001235550428.jpg
tq April 4th, 2009, 01:02 PM http://www9.ttvnol.com/uploaded2/betterman/img_0191.jpg
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tq April 4th, 2009, 01:17 PM http://hanoiacademy.edu.vn/upload/ha/fck/image/tinhanoiacademy/hoctruongtayota650(1).jpg
chinatown April 4th, 2009, 02:14 PM haiz, ông cậu em có 2 căn villa trong khu Ciputra ... hồi Tết ra chơi có wa ở thử cho biết cảm giác ở biệt thự nó thế nào ==> túm lại 1 câu cảm nhận của em là "ở đấy chán lắm" ... ko so với PMH đc đâu
Ở PMH ít ra cũng có đầy đủ dịch vụ, ăn uống cafe có tất ... ở Ciputra cứ như khu nhà hoang, về tới nhà rồi mún ra đg fải đi xa, c̣n gần đó th́ chả có ǵ. Tối là coi như 'bị giam lỏng' ấy ... buồn thúi ruột ra. Ở đc 3 bữa là em giăy đành đạch đ̣i về =.=
Ciputra đă hoàn thiện xong đâu mà chả kô có ǵ hả cậu ? Chờ nó xong cái Ciputra Mall cậu muốn trà đá,nc mía hay star bucks ǵ đều có hết
PMH chưa xây xong khu phố đầu tiên năm 1999 th́ đă có trường học Nam Saigon rồi.
Mấy dăy nhà phố dọc đường NVL với Nguyễn Đức Cảnh năm 2003 lúc Sky Garden 1 chưa xây xong đă có tùm lum shop rồi, với cái Coop Mart.
Mà PMH bây giờ đă xây xong hết đâu? Mới chỉ 60% thôi.
tq April 10th, 2009, 04:24 PM Photos by Smile Cat ♥{=^__^=}♥ (http://www.flickr.com/people/linktonhung/)
nhin villas co ve dc thay doi...co ve phong canh Viet Nam hon
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chinatown April 10th, 2009, 05:46 PM Indo bị ảnh hưởng bời Hà Lan nên khu Ciputra này có vẻ theo style HàLan, trừ mấy cái cao ốc nh́n là thấy style indo liền.
tq April 10th, 2009, 06:49 PM Indo bị ảnh hưởng bời Hà Lan nên khu Ciputra này có vẻ theo style HàLan, trừ mấy cái cao ốc nh́n là thấy style indo liền.
the ha? minh thay Ciputra Mall hoi co gi Ha Lan va My day.
wt_onlyme April 11th, 2009, 04:59 AM Chung cư theo style của Indo đem qua Việt Nam trở thành hàng cao cấp.C̣n Style của Việt Nam th́.....:ohno:
tq April 11th, 2009, 09:48 AM Chung cư theo style của Indo đem qua Việt Nam trở thành hàng cao cấp.C̣n Style của Việt Nam th́.....:ohno:
I would prefere the Viet style over the Indo style.
wt_onlyme April 11th, 2009, 05:39 PM Nhận định 1 cách khách quan th́ Indo style vẫn đẹp hơn VN style.
caokeuqn April 11th, 2009, 05:55 PM Nhận định 1 cách khách quan th́ Indo style vẫn đẹp hơn VN style.
Actually, there is no Viet style existing in current new urban areas but the mix of styles that is imported from somewhere:ohno:, and it is ruining our country's overall appearance
chinatown April 11th, 2009, 06:19 PM VN style vẫn đẹp hơn Bắc Hàn style :D
coolink April 12th, 2009, 03:49 AM đào thêm mấy cái dikes nữa chạy ṿng ṿng cho người ta chèo thuyền thi giống Hà Lan
cái khu này rộng mà, mấy chục cao ốc, đào được đó
ryon April 12th, 2009, 10:56 AM Viet style
http://dothi.vnexpress.net/News/Cam%2Dnang/Khong%2Dgian%2Dsong/2009/02/3B9ADEEE/Pi8.jpg
http://dothi.vnexpress.net/News/Cam%2Dnang/Khong%2Dgian%2Dsong/2009/02/3B9ADEEE/Pi4.jpg
http://dothi.vnexpress.net/News/Cam%2Dnang/Khong%2Dgian%2Dsong/2009/02/3B9ADEEE/HN1.jpg
http://dothi.vnexpress.net/News/Cam%2Dnang/Khong%2Dgian%2Dsong/2009/02/3B9ADEEE/Pi3.jpg
Pilgrimage Village Huế :nuts:
tq April 12th, 2009, 11:18 AM There is a book called VietnamStyle. I highly recommend it.
There is the traditional Vietnamese style and the new Vietnamese style, which is influenced by different architectural styles.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51I6CL9-jLL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg
tq April 18th, 2009, 12:15 PM Hanoi Academy School
http://mohinh4d.com/images/Duan/IMG_0505.jpg
aitymo April 19th, 2009, 06:37 AM Có vẻ như Ciputra giờ bắt đầu chia nhỏ các khu trong dự án để bán cho các nhà đầu tư khác
purespring April 20th, 2009, 07:57 AM Đất Ciputra th́ rộng mà đất dành cho trường học ít quá. Theo phối cảnh (cũng như thực tế xây dựng) th́ hơi trật trội thiếu không gian nhỉ ?
tq April 20th, 2009, 09:40 AM Đất Ciputra th́ rộng mà đất dành cho trường học ít quá. Theo phối cảnh (cũng như thực tế xây dựng) th́ hơi trật trội thiếu không gian nhỉ ?
Ciputra den bay gio da co 3 truong roi ma?
UNIS
Hanoi Academy
KinderWorld
chinatown April 20th, 2009, 05:56 PM Ciputra là khu dân cư mở hay đóng? Nghĩa là biệt lập hay nối liền với các khu khác?
purespring April 21st, 2009, 04:44 AM Tôi đang nói về land/environment cho các trường mà.
Ciputra biệt lập, có cả cái công hoành tráng đấy thôi.
chinatown April 21st, 2009, 02:47 PM ^^ vậy th́ có khác ǵ 1 khu condo khổng lồ đâu mà gọi là international city? đáng lẽ phải làm mở ra, kết nối với khu vực chung quanh mới hay chứ. Cả hanoi chỉ có cái Ciputra này xứng đáng làm đô thị kiểu mẫu hơn cái khu Linh Đàm vớ vẩn, nhưng lại làm theo kiểu 'chảnh' như thế này th́ tiếc quá.
White Bear April 21st, 2009, 04:00 PM Giờ mới biết tại sao PMH cho xây một số ít nhà tube house để bán mấy thứ cần thiết trong khu dân cư. H́nh như khu Phú Gia là biệt lập đúng ko? ko phải ai cũng vào đc??
nguyend April 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM To chinatown, bạn có thể post h́nh căn hộ muốn bán lên không ? giá cả ra sao ?
purespring April 22nd, 2009, 04:42 AM Ciputra xấu lắm, làm sao mà thành mẫu được. Các khu ĐTM ở HN vẫn mang tính chất ăn sổi của chủ đầu tư nên chán lắm, chỉ trực xây và bán thôi, sống chết mặc bay. Hi vọng các khu ĐTM đang triển khai xây dựng, chủ đầu tư sẽ có cái nh́n tốt hơn để vươn xa hơn :bash:
chinatown April 22nd, 2009, 02:32 PM Giờ mới biết tại sao PMH cho xây một số ít nhà tube house để bán mấy thứ cần thiết trong khu dân cư. H́nh như khu Phú Gia là biệt lập đúng ko? ko phải ai cũng vào đc??
Thời ḱ đầu thiếu vốn nên phải có dự án bán đất nền, nếu cứ xây căn hộ cao tầng th́ chịu sao nổi. Bây giờ th́ mấy cái khu đất nền ở gần Sky Garden là những khu xấu nhất PMH!
Phú Gia là 1 khu mang tính cách theo đúng tên gọi của nó, toàn nhân vật cỡ bự ở ko à, nên biệt lập, security 24/24, muốn vào phải chờ bảo vệ hỏi người cần gặp, được đồng ư mới cho vào. Bây giờ mấy căn biệt thự trong ấy ko căn nào dưới 20 tỉ.
To chinatown, bạn có thể post h́nh căn hộ muốn bán lên không ? giá cả ra sao ?
muốn mua th́ gặp tui rồi sẽ được dẫn đi coi nhà :cheers:
Saigoneseguy April 22nd, 2009, 06:58 PM PMH sap co du an nao gioing Phu Gia khong? Nhu cau nhieu 99 can da ban het hai nam truoc roi.
chinatown cho hoi gium pmh bay gio cho nao biet thu hay lien ke hop tui tien nhat? co con quy hoach biet thu/ lien ke rieng ko?
nguyend April 22nd, 2009, 07:15 PM muốn mua th́ gặp tui rồi sẽ được dẫn đi coi nhà :cheers:
có bao vé máy bay khú hồi không tui dźa đi coi nhà vói chinatown liền . Giá cả thế nào, tui có thể mua một căn cơ 2-3 tỉ hoặc 100-200 ngh́n USD đủo?.c không ?
coolink April 22nd, 2009, 07:51 PM sao bạn giàu thế, bạn có những 200 ngh́n để mua nhà.
đầu tư bên Mỹ đi, bây giờ nhà bên đó đang xuống giá, mai mốt kinh tế phục hồi bán ra chắc lời ít nhất 70-110 ngh́n
nguyend April 22nd, 2009, 09:14 PM bạn nói rất đúng, ḿnh cũng vùa mua một căn condo bên Mỹ, đang theo dơi mua thêm một căn, ḿnh hùn hạp vói ngủoi nhà để mua . Lư do ḿnh muốn mua nhà bên VN là v́ ḿnh yêu nủo'c nên ḿnh làm theo ḷi Nhà Núoc VC kêu gọi Việt Kiều về đầu tủ nhà của, và ḿnh cũng thủong dân nên ḿnh mang tiền về VN túc là đồng tiền ấy sẽ lủu chuyển trong nguoi` dân nhủ vậy là ḿnh đă làm đủ bổn phận yêu núoc thuo?ng dân rồi, không giống nhủ VC bán núouo'c hại dân .
tq April 22nd, 2009, 09:34 PM back to topic!
nguyend April 22nd, 2009, 09:50 PM ^^ Hanoi Ciprutra c̣n nhà đất bán không, ḿnh có thể đầu tủ vào đây . Thật ra nh́n mấy con ngủa đen hí hí, đạp đạp, ỏ cổng vào Ciprutra làm ḿnh cụt húng (turn off) liền chủa cần biết nhà của ỏ đây ra sao .
chinatown April 23rd, 2009, 03:25 AM PMH sap co du an nao gioing Phu Gia khong? Nhu cau nhieu 99 can da ban het hai nam truoc roi.
chinatown cho hoi gium pmh bay gio cho nao biet thu hay lien ke hop tui tien nhat? co con quy hoach biet thu/ lien ke rieng ko?
PMH hết đưa ra nhà liên kế & biệt thự rồi. Hợp túi tiền mày th́ chỉ có sky garden thôi :nuts:
có bao vé máy bay khú hồi không tui dźa đi coi nhà vói chinatown liền . Giá cả thế nào, tui có thể mua một căn cơ 2-3 tỉ hoặc 100-200 ngh́n USD đủo?.c không ?
100-200 ngh́n th́ qua US mà mua cho rồi, chú ko biết bây giờ ở VN thằng việt cộng nó c̣n giàu hơn thằng Việt Kiều à?
popcorn69 April 23rd, 2009, 07:59 AM 100-200 nghin mua thi tui Viet Cong no con cuoi them vo mat. Chay tron may chuc nam roi chi co bao nhieu tien trong khi tui no take vacation di tour qua Cali mua nha on sale tra tien mat 300-500 nghin nhu choi. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
:cheers::cheers::cheers:
wulizhong April 23rd, 2009, 12:09 PM Đừng khinh Việt Kiều như thế....
Các đại gia ở VN hiện giờ ko ít bác xuất phát điểm từ chợ vòm Moscow, Little Hanoi ở Praha, Poland...
Về VN mua nhà 1-10 M $ là chuyện bình thường...
Có biết một bác Vịt cừu Nga Ngố năm ngoái có nhờ người bạn ở VN tìm giúp một khu đất để xây nhà ở HN tầm trên 1000 m2 budget khoảng 200-300 tỷ VND, yêu cầu là phải gần hồ Gươm...
200-300 tỷ VND mà cũng pótay, người bạn ko tìm nổi ở quanh hồ gươm còn chỗ nào gom đủ 1,000 m2 mà giá lại dưới nên phải Reckon lên mấy khu villas trên Hồ Tây mà mua... :(
caokeuqn April 23rd, 2009, 12:18 PM Đừng khinh Việt Kiều như thế....
Các đại gia ở VN hiện giờ ko ít bác xuất phát điểm từ chợ vòm Moscow, Little Hanoi ở Praha, Poland...
Về VN mua nhà 1-10 M $ là chuyện bình thường...
Có biết một bác Vịt cừu Nga Ngố năm ngoái có nhờ người bạn ở VN tìm giúp một khu đất để xây nhà ở HN tầm 200-300 tỷ VND, yêu cầu là phải gần hồ Gươm...
200-300 tỷ VND mà cũng pótay, người bạn ko tìm nổi ở quang hồ gươm nên phải Reckon lên mấy khu villas trên Hồ Tây mà mua... :(
The ko co ai xuat phat diem tu Little Saigon Bolsa ah? Buon nhi! Ma cung cha trach dc......:ohno::ohno:
nguyend April 23rd, 2009, 03:46 PM Bác đây làm ăn liêm chính, lủong lănh every 2 weeks, lủong năm 6 figures trù thuế má các thú rót xuống du/ói 6 figures th́ làm ǵ dám nghĩ đến nhà bạc triệu đô nhủ mấy chú đảng viên cú tàn tàn mà có tiền triệu đô . C̣n là đại gia th́ bác đây chủa đủ kinh nghiệm tuổi tác so vói mấy đại gia kia nhủng không sao cú đọi đấy , kế hoạch 10 năm của bác đây chắc chắn sẽ cao hỏn kế hoạch 10 năm của đảng . Hẹn các cháu 10 năm sau .
nguyend April 23rd, 2009, 03:54 PM PMH hết đưa ra nhà liên kế & biệt thự rồi. Hợp túi tiền mày th́ chỉ có sky garden thôi :nuts:
100-200 ngh́n th́ qua US mà mua cho rồi, chú ko biết bây giờ ở VN thằng việt cộng nó c̣n giàu hơn thằng Việt Kiều à?
Chú biết dủ đoá , chú th́ ngó lên th́ chẳng bằng VC nhủng ngó xuống th́ hỏn nhiều VN. Túi tiền chú th́ chỉ có cơ đoá thôi , có th́ bán không có th́ chú mua ỏ Mỹ , dù sao mua ỏ Mỹ cũng chắc ăn hỏn v́ dẫu ǵ ḿnh cũng điều khiển dduoc c̣n mua ỏ VN không biết lúc nào bị lật nũa . Chú nói đúng hôn .
wulizhong April 23rd, 2009, 04:25 PM 6 con số là 100,000 $ hay là 999,000$... :ohno:
Làm chục năm thì cũng phải dăm ba triệu $ rồi còn gì nữa, còn than nghèo than khổ gì đây.............:banana::banana::banana:
nguyend April 23rd, 2009, 04:37 PM ^^ cậu đọc kĩ post #209 của bác đi th́ có câu trả ḷi thôi mà, kĩ sủ ǵ mà yếu toán thế .
wulizhong April 23rd, 2009, 05:13 PM Một năm bác đóng cho Obama mấy chục % tax ???
Làm nhiều thì nộp nhiều thuế...
Ở VN nếu giàu chân chính thì nhẽ ra phải kính trọng vì họ nộp thuế cho xã hội....
Nhưng đa phần doanh nghiệp toàn trốn thuế, buôn lậu, gian lận... mới giàu nổi ...
nguyend April 23rd, 2009, 05:18 PM hi`hi` một công dân liêm chính nhủ bác đây th́ đóng cơ 25% thuế liên bang, chủa kể thuế xă hội , thuế tiểu bang v.v...
coolink April 23rd, 2009, 10:59 PM Đừng khinh Việt Kiều như thế....
Các đại gia ở VN hiện giờ ko ít bác xuất phát điểm từ chợ vòm Moscow, Little Hanoi ở Praha, Poland...
Về VN mua nhà 1-10 M $ là chuyện bình thường...
Có biết một bác Vịt cừu Nga Ngố năm ngoái có nhờ người bạn ở VN tìm giúp một khu đất để xây nhà ở HN tầm trên 1000 m2 budget khoảng 200-300 tỷ VND, yêu cầu là phải gần hồ Gươm...
200-300 tỷ VND mà cũng pótay, người bạn ko tìm nổi ở quanh hồ gươm còn chỗ nào gom đủ 1,000 m2 mà giá lại dưới nên phải Reckon lên mấy khu villas trên Hồ Tây mà mua... :(
The ko co ai xuat phat diem tu Little Saigon Bolsa ah? Buon nhi! Ma cung cha trach dc......:ohno::ohno:
có đọc báo không đây? có bao nhiêu trí thức VN ở bên mấy cái nước cựu CS đó? đoc báo đi, toàn là cảnh sát bắt người VN buôn lâu hàng Trung quốc, và trồng cần sa, buôn bán thuốc lắc, mới có triệu triệu, chứ không có học, sống gần nửa cuộc đời với những nước CS cũ th́ bằng cấp ǵ mà kinh doanh ra hàng triệu USD?
V́ buôn lậu nên mới phải về VN rửa tiền
chứ Việt Kiều bên Mỹ ngu ǵ mang tiền về VN đầu tư trong bấp bênh và lo sợ, trong khi tiền người ta kiếm được minhbạch, để trong nhà banks lấy lời hàng tháng không sướng và yên tâm hơn, về VN kinh doanh sao?
aitymo April 24th, 2009, 06:28 AM Please comeback to topic. i know the man who doing master plan and architect for this project and refer him here to listen and see what vietnamese talking about his stuff
cheers guys
Hadi April 28th, 2009, 07:09 PM http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c2.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c3.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c4.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c1.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c5.jpg
http://phuthailand.vn/Media/Images/c7.jpg
this is feel like in Ciputra Surabaya
Hadi April 28th, 2009, 07:18 PM wah great development for hanoi. Go Hanoi....
aitymo May 4th, 2009, 07:29 AM Ciputra project style as they save money by one design apply to many project. Horses is symbol of Project as owner were born in the year of horse
Numberten May 4th, 2009, 11:01 AM the gate is ok, the rest is very ugly except villas
tq May 15th, 2009, 12:39 AM Photo by Ngọt thị Ớt (http://www.flickr.com/people/otngot/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2363/3531574894_7b5ee4ebd6_o.jpg
tq June 11th, 2009, 07:44 PM Ciputra Mall
http://ptpede.co.cc/images/ciputra-hanoi-mall.jpg
popcorn69 June 17th, 2009, 07:14 AM Wow nice ^^
popcorn69 July 3rd, 2009, 03:59 PM http://photo.com.vn/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/33530/apartment.jpeg
http://photo.com.vn/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/33530/interior.jpeg
tq July 3rd, 2009, 06:30 PM Photo by BILL (http://xomnhiepanh.com/account.php?do=profile&u=12499)
http://xomnhiepanh.com/uploads/gallery/2009/07/12499_1246589611.jpg
tq July 28th, 2009, 07:38 PM http://vnexpress.net/Files/Subject/3B/A1/18/C1/HAE_8161.jpg
purespring July 30th, 2009, 04:12 AM Trồng nhiều cây, hoa mà cảnh quan vẫn xấu vẫn xấu. Cá nhân tôi thấy mấy bác Ciputra phải xem xét lại về tính thẩm mỹ của cả khu mất thôi. Nhà đă xấu rồi mà cảnh cũng xấu nữa, không hoà hợp ǵ hết cả.
aitymo July 30th, 2009, 04:27 AM Bác ơi hội này không có landscape archi đâu, cứ cây nào nhiều hoa, xanh là trồng à
tq July 30th, 2009, 09:09 AM Hanoi Academy
http://hanoiacademy.edu.vn/upload/ha/fck/image/tinhanoiacademy/DSC_0977%20500.jpg
http://hanoiacademy.edu.vn/upload/ha/fck/image/tinhanoiacademy/DSC_1073%20500.jpg
tq August 7th, 2009, 03:17 AM http://dothi.net/News/Tin-tuc/Thi-Truong/2009/08/3B9AE71C/01.jpg
tq August 23rd, 2009, 11:41 AM Photos by Space Dindon (http://www.flickr.com/people/26688402@N07/)
Ciputra from far away
Tay Ho District
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2589/3846881691_ebe8911212_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/3847672014_8b50d68098_o.jpg
tq August 23rd, 2009, 12:32 PM Hanoi Academy School has just opened. Are there any pics?
tq August 23rd, 2009, 05:01 PM Photo by haibuihoang (http://xomnhiepanh.com/account.php?do=profile&u=25767)
http://xomnhiepanh.com/uploads/gallery/2009/08/25767_1251029728.jpg
wulizhong August 24th, 2009, 12:19 AM wasting stupid time
1 cái của indo xây dựng trong vòng vài năm / 1 cái của Sing diện tích gấp 3 xây dựng trong vòng 20 năm ở "ngoại ô"
Quy mô, kích thước, giá trị đầu tư, thời gian bắt đầu, quá trình xây dựng... ko tương đương
mất thời gian post bài so sánh Indo với Sing như vậy có giải quyết được gì không ?
may mà Indo nó ko cho xây nhà ống ở Ciputra
kiva.ld August 24th, 2009, 03:23 AM Phu My Hung: Vietnam-Taiwan; 1993.
Ciputra: Indonesia; 2002.
chinatown August 24th, 2009, 04:21 AM Phu My Hung: Vietnam-Taiwan; 1993.
Cuputra: Indonesia; 2002.
Phu My Hung khởi công 1993, mất 6-7 năm để lấp śnh lầy làm hạ tầng, được thực hiện lúc VN c̣n nghèo, chả mấy ai có tiền mua. Ciputra th́ được đất đẹp, tốn có 1-2 năm làm hạ tầng căn bản, được thực hiện lúc thị trường BĐS đang tốt, chả bị báo chí đánh tơi bời như PMH giai đọan đầu.
Mà chửi Ciputra ko th́ tội nghiệp nó lắm. NG̣ai HN có cái đô thị mới nào ra hồn đâu.
choithuxem August 24th, 2009, 04:24 AM Phu My Hung la day ne em, coi dau la rac? Phu My Hung hay Ciputra?
nguoi ta cuoi em la NGU!!! :lol:
Lai them mot thang ngu nua , Thang kia no so rang "Phu my hung hon cai bai rac nay." ==> Phu my hung cung la bai rac chu con ji
May nen ve doc them ti sach cho no bot ngu di
kiva.ld August 24th, 2009, 05:09 AM Ciputra th́ được đất đẹp, tốn có 1-2 năm làm hạ tầng căn bản, được thực hiện lúc thị trường BĐS đang tốt,...
Vào Ciputra toàn thấy xe biển số đỏ với biển số xanh ko àh. Thích nhất là nó gần Hồ Tây.
trungnguyen12 August 24th, 2009, 07:29 AM Lai them mot thang ngu nua , Thang kia no so rang "Phu my hung hon cai bai rac nay." ==> Phu my hung cung la bai rac chu con ji
May nen ve doc them ti sach cho no bot ngu di
:lol: Hahaha... nghe em noi mat cuoi wa... vao Saigon choi mot lan roi tham Phu My Hung di... Phu My Hung ma la rac thi nguyen cai Hanoi cho nao cung la cứt... nhin lai minh di hahaha... toi nghiep may em Hanoi chua duoc mở tầm mắt:lol::lol::lol:
ilovesaigon August 24th, 2009, 09:49 AM :lol: Hahaha... nghe em noi mat cuoi wa... vao Saigon choi mot lan roi tham Phu My Hung di... Phu My Hung ma la rac thi nguyen cai Hanoi cho nao cung la cứt... nhin lai minh di hahaha... toi nghiep may em Hanoi chua duoc mở tầm mắt:lol::lol::lol:
Ai cha, TN12 b́nh tĩnh, cần ǵ phải nói lên như vậy. Qua thread PMH xem là xong chứ ǵ. Hết THNC giờ tới Ciputra hazzz, tưởng khá hơn đc
trungnguyen12 August 24th, 2009, 10:21 AM Ai cha, TN12 b́nh tĩnh, cần ǵ phải nói lên như vậy. Qua thread PMH xem là xong chứ ǵ. Hết THNC giờ tới Ciputra hazzz, tưởng khá hơn đc
Haha... thi to cung dau co muon gay su, tai cai thang kia chui PMH la trash truoc nen to moi noi thoi, chu to ko co discriminate Hanoi hay Saigon gi dau :)
tq August 24th, 2009, 10:34 AM Haha... thi to cung dau co muon gay su, tai cai thang kia chui PMH la trash truoc nen to moi noi thoi, chu to ko co discriminate Hanoi hay Saigon gi dau :)
ban dung quen ai gay su chuoc. noi gi noi cung phai ton trong nhau chu. chenh cheo nhu o Kindergarten. uh thi dep.
choithuxem August 24th, 2009, 10:45 AM :lol: Hahaha... nghe em noi mat cuoi wa... vao Saigon choi mot lan roi tham Phu My Hung di... Phu My Hung ma la rac thi nguyen cai Hanoi cho nao cung la cứt... nhin lai minh di hahaha... toi nghiep may em Hanoi chua duoc mở tầm mắt:lol::lol::lol:
Potay.com , hết thuốc chữa với thể loại này, stupid ko cải tạo nổi. Ư nghĩa đơn giản vậy cũng không hiểu . Nói với cục gạch c̣n dễ hơn nói với thằng này :ohno::ohno::ohno:
trungnguyen12 August 24th, 2009, 10:46 AM ban dung quen ai gay su chuoc. noi gi noi cung phai ton trong nhau chu. chenh cheo nhu o Kindergarten. uh thi dep.
Ai gay su truoc? may cai posts bi xoa het roi chu mot ten nao do gay su truoc chu dang nay cung ko ranh ma di gay su voi bon Hanoi! Thoi noi chung la ho`a... ko thoi bi mang tieng lon an hiep be'... hy vong mot ngay nao do Ciputra cung dep va hoanh trang nhu PHM thi minh hua se mua ve may bay ra Hanoi de coi :)
trungnguyen12 August 24th, 2009, 10:49 AM Potay.com , hết thuốc chữa với thể loại này, stupid ko cải tạo nổi. Ư nghĩa đơn giản vậy cũng không hiểu . Nói với cục gạch c̣n dễ hơn nói với thằng này :ohno::ohno::ohno:
LOL :lol::lol::lol: Ban vui tinh ghe!!! :lol::lol::lol:
tq August 24th, 2009, 11:09 AM Ai gay su truoc? may cai posts bi xoa het roi chu mot ten nao do gay su truoc chu dang nay cung ko ranh ma di gay su voi bon Hanoi!
I am not a liar. And you should be honest too, if you're a good person.
zen_zen August 24th, 2009, 12:42 PM Cac ban hoi ti la cai nhau, khong giu duoc binh tinh gi ca! :bash: Chi vai cau khich bac thi cho qua di! To thay mung vi ca 2 thanh pho deu bat dau co nhung du an quy hoach 1 cach hoan chinh theo dung voi tieu chuan quoc te. Cha nen so sanh hon thua lam gi vi khong co 1 cai tieu chuan nao ro rang de so sanh ca! Giong nhu nguoi thi thich can ho cao tang nha bong loang toan kinh. Nhung co nhung nguoi lai thich nha ngoi trong vuon cay xanh...Cha ai co the noi cai nao tot hon cai nao!!! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Xem ra cung ap dung duoc ca trong truong hop nay day!
zen_zen August 24th, 2009, 12:46 PM LOL :lol::lol::lol: Ban vui tinh ghe!!! :lol::lol::lol:
@ Trungnguyen12: cach noi kieu ntn chi dan Ha Noi hoac cung lam la dan 1 so tinh phia Bac moi hieu thoi! :ohno: No cung la dac diem van hoa tung vung ma! Dan Bac cung dung nghi viec an noi sau xa la tinh te, la cao sieu hon nguoi. Dan Nam cung dung cho do la nguoi ta dang chui minh. Vi do la van hoa song roi! Nhin nhau di!
trungnguyen12 August 24th, 2009, 08:15 PM @ Trungnguyen12: cach noi kieu ntn chi dan Ha Noi hoac cung lam la dan 1 so tinh phia Bac moi hieu thoi! :ohno: No cung la dac diem van hoa tung vung ma! Dan Bac cung dung nghi viec an noi sau xa la tinh te, la cao sieu hon nguoi. Dan Nam cung dung cho do la nguoi ta dang chui minh. Vi do la van hoa song roi! Nhin nhau di!
what the hell r u talking about? go get a life!
coolink August 25th, 2009, 12:33 AM Phu My Hung khởi công 1993, mất 6-7 năm để lấp śnh lầy làm hạ tầng, được thực hiện lúc VN c̣n nghèo, chả mấy ai có tiền mua. Ciputra th́ được đất đẹp, tốn có 1-2 năm làm hạ tầng căn bản, được thực hiện lúc thị trường BĐS đang tốt, chả bị báo chí đánh tơi bời như PMH giai đọan đầu.
Mà chửi Ciputra ko th́ tội nghiệp nó lắm. NG̣ai HN có cái đô thị mới nào ra hồn đâu.
ta nghĩ 2 nơi này có thể so sánh với nhau được, v́ PMH lên giấy tờ năm 1993, nhưng có ai thấy nó xây cái ǵ không?
năm 2003-2004 ta về mà chổ này chỉ có 2 toà nhà văn pḥng 10 tầng, với mấy dăy nhà ống nằm ở đường Nguyễn Văn Linh, với cai Sá G̣n wonderland, cũng như caí bệnh viện Việt Pháp, ngoài ra chẳng có cái ǵ, kể cả đại lộ Nguyễn Văn Linh củng chỉ có 5-6 làn xe.
PMH chỉ bắt đầu xây dựng mạnh 2-3 năm nay thôi, lúc có skyscrapercity VN này là thấy nó xăy nhanh xây nhiều.
H́nh như ta nhớ Ciputra này có khoảng 30-40 toà nhà cao 15-20 tầng. Nếu người ta góp lại 6 toà nhà thành 1 th́ thành bằng toà nhà cao 37 tầng Saigon Pearl, nh́n nó gọn gàng và thanh hơn, một đống cao ốc kiến trúc giống y hệt nhau, nh́n chung cư mà giống nhau nh́n nó giống khu tái định cư
tuyennd August 25th, 2009, 03:48 AM Ḿnh ở HN chưa đến PMH bao giờ, nhưng qua h́nh ảnh các Bạn trong đó post lên ḿnh có nhận xét như thế này:
- Phú Mỹ Hưng rộng, quy hoạch tốt, nhà cửa không cao nhưng kiến trúc đa dạng, hiện đại, đẹp, nhiều cây xanh, thân thiện, xây dựng nhanh, nói chung là rất tốt.
- Nam Thăng Long hẹp hơn, ngoài dăy nhà liền kề 3 tầng c̣n khu chung cư toàn trên 20f, kiến trúc không đa dạng, giống nhau mà lại không thanh thoát, cục mịch trông không đẹp, có khu sân gôn nhưng chưa xây lên trông toàn nhà san sát nhau nh́n ngột ngạt hơn PMH, không thân thiện, biệt lập, xây dựng chậm. Tóm lại là không thể bằng PMH được. Thật sự mà nói ḿnh cũng không có cảm t́nh với khu này lắm.
chinatown August 25th, 2009, 04:08 AM ^^ ta th́ thấy Ciputra nh́n đỡ hơn Linh Đàm. Nói chung cũng bị ảnh hưởng kiến trúc Indo nh́u quá, mà Indo lại bị lai tạp bởi kiến trúc HÀ LAn.
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