View Full Version : Your city´s oldest buildings?
Mr Bricks October 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM So what´s you city´s oldest buildings? buildings, houses, churches, castles etc..
Helsinki was founded in 1550 but the buildings back then were built of wood and there is nothing left today. Helsinki also lacks an "old town" so typical for many European cities. The oldest buildings in the capital today are situated in Alexander street on right side of Senate square.
The oldest in that area is Sederholm House which is a stone building built in 1757.
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3726/soderholmrf5.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soderholmrf5.jpg)
Another old building (built in 1764) in the corner of Alexander street and Sofia street.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8889/photo2phpws4.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo2phpws4.jpg)
Then there is the Pyhän Laurin kirkko which was originally built in 1460 but was destroyed by fire in 1893 and restored in 1894. The belfry was built in the 17th century, and the original wooden upper part was replaced with the new brick part in the 1850s. The church is the oldest building around Helsinki area.
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9606/0000000341ry3.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0000000341ry3.jpg)
Marco_ October 29th, 2006, 12:32 PM de oude Kerk (old Church) build in 1306
http://www.bma.amsterdam.nl/adam/pics/groot/okerk/okerk1.jpg
het houten huys (wooden house) +/- 1450
http://www.bma.amsterdam.nl/adam/pics/huizen/beg34/beg34.jpg
Novak October 29th, 2006, 12:46 PM I think it is the wooden church of Ahlainen, completed in 1796. The city of Pori (Finland) itself was established in 1558, but because of the many fires that destroyed the city over and over again, there aren't left any very old building.
http://www.porievl.fi/u/seurakunnat/ahlainen/ahlainen_kirkko_talvi.jpg
wjfox October 29th, 2006, 12:55 PM In London, the oldest structure is the remains of the old London Wall which surrounded the City and dates back to Roman times.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/London_wall_statue.jpg
The oldest fully intact building is the Tower of London, which was founded in the 11th century and stands on the northern bank of the River Thames, next to Tower Bridge -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Tower_of_London%2C_Traitors_Gate.jpg/656px-Tower_of_London%2C_Traitors_Gate.jpg
http://www.willfox.com/images/london/toweroflondon/1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Tower_Of_London_-_White_Tower_March_2006.jpg/800px-Tower_Of_London_-_White_Tower_March_2006.jpg
Another (very) old structure is Westminster Hall, which forms part of the Houses of Parliament. This dates back to 1097. Westminster Hall is one of the largest halls in Europe with an unsupported roof; it measures 21 by 73m.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/wjfox2005/westminster.jpg
Stifler October 29th, 2006, 12:56 PM My town was founded around 1000 A.C.
Iglesia de los Padres, a romanic church built in the 12th century.
http://homepage.mac.com/aanino/.Pictures/Aviles%20dotMac/P5010219.JPG
Another church (Iglesia de Sabugo), this one from the 13th century
http://homepage.mac.com/aanino/.Pictures/Aviles%20dotMac/P5010251.JPG
And the oldest civil building: Palacio de Valdecarzana. A 14th century's gotic palace.
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/intercelticoaviles/valdecarzana.jpg
Slartibartfas October 29th, 2006, 01:28 PM I really dont know when Vienna was founded. It really depedns upon your definition. Personally I would say in the 1st century AD by the Romans (they called it "Vindobona"). Under their rule it really became a large city for that time within a few hundred years. (around 40.000 inhabitants). After the fall of the Roman empire it got quite depopulated, but its said, that allways a rest settlement remained (coins and graves from that time were found) and in the 9th century it is allready officially mentioned again. One could however argue that its even older. After all the Roman name Vindobona was just a modification of the name of the celtic settlement that existed there before.
Ruprechtskirche is supposed to be the oldest church in Vienna. Most likely it was built between 796 and 829 AD
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Ruprechtskirche_Wien.jpg/800px-Ruprechtskirche_Wien.jpg
I guess the following does not count as its far from being intact anymore, but the oldest structures in Vienna are the roman ruins at the Michaelerplatz directly in front of the imperial palace.
http://www.viennacityflats.at/wien/uploads/ausgrabungen-michaelerplatz-roemer-20060709190516.jpg
(allthough these walls are a mixture out of the centuries, a considerable part orginiates from roman ages.)
The largest very old structure is the Stephans Cathedral. Its located in the very heart of Vienna and the oldest parts date back to the 12th century. (namely the main portal + the two towers beneath it on the left side of the picture) The rest of the exteriour was finished in its current form within the next 400 years. Interestingly the material the oldest parts of the cathedral are made of are stones from the Roman ruins.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Stephansdom.JPG/488px-Stephansdom.JPG
Crownsteler October 29th, 2006, 01:47 PM Well, the oldest building in Leiden is (almost certainly) the Burcht (which means stronghold) in the center of town.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1155/burch2ct8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It was build in 12th century (+- 1150)
Another old building is the Gravensteen, build in the 13th century as a refuge for the counts of Holland
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4647/gravencu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(best picture I can find, the 13th century part is in the center)
Mr Bricks October 29th, 2006, 01:55 PM Impressive! Ruprechtskirche looks very old.
Btw. Are there any "normal" buildings in London that are very old?
Unsing October 29th, 2006, 02:30 PM Sangedatsu Gate of Zojoji Temple (1622)
The temple itself was founded in the 9th century. The other buildings of the temple were destroyed by 1945 bombing.
http://www.zojoji.or.jp/treasure/gallery/01_photo.jpg
sjinadasa October 29th, 2006, 03:26 PM In Colombo (Sri Lanka) the oldest buildings might be
The Galle Face Hotel- Built in 1864 known as Asia's Emerald on the Green and is believed to be the oldest hotel east of the Suez Canal.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/632/gallfacefo6.jpg
Cargills and Millers departmental store -Sri Lanka's and one of the world's first supermarketing and department stores dating back to the mid-19th Century
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7476/cargillsandmillershj3.jpg
(red building)
Old Parliament -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/OldParliment.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3971/188714483ef6d6dc874gr4.jpg
More Colonial (19th Century) Buildings in the city
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6752/oldbuildingskr7.jpg
There are many buildings built around 1800s in the city i cant find the pictures of and since the city was founded during that time most of the buildings only date back to the 19th century . But the oldest buildings in the country dates back more than 2000years.
wjfox October 29th, 2006, 03:31 PM Btw. Are there any "normal" buildings in London that are very old?
Below is a list of the oldest surviving buildings I could find in London (from before the Great Fire of 1666). I'm sure there are plenty of houses or "normal" buildings which could be added here, but these are some of the more well-known buildings. Most of them are churches -
London Wall (Roman ruins)
Tower of London (1078)
Westminster Hall (1097)
St Dunstan-in-the-East (1100’s)
St Bartholomew-the-Great (1100’s)
Temple Church (1100’s)
St Helen Bishopsgate (1200’s)
Winchester Palace (1220)
Southwark Cathedral (1220)
Westminster Abbey (some parts date from the 1300’s)
Leadenhall Market (1300’s)
All Hallows Staining (1320)
St Sepulchre-without-Newgate (1400’s)
St Ethelburga's Bishopsgate (1411)
Guildhall (1411)
Lambeth Palace (1440)
St Olave Hart Street (c.1450)
Eltham Palace (parts date from the 1470's)
Hampton Court Palace (early 1500's)
Croydon Palace (some parts date from the 1500’s)
St. Margaret's, Westminster (1523, orig. 12th century)
Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese pub (originally 1530's, rebuilt 1667)
Hall Place (1530’s)
St Andrew Undershaft (1532)
St Giles-without-Cripplegate (c.1550)
Syon House (1550’s)
The "George Inn" Pub (1600’s)
Fenton House (1600’s)
Holland House (parts date from 1605)
Ham House (1610)
Banqueting House (1620's)
St Katherine Cree (1631)
Down House (1650)
Burlington House (parts date from the 1660's)
Erebus555 October 29th, 2006, 03:57 PM For Birmingham:
Blakesley Hall - Built in 1590.
http://www.btinternet.com/~jimperkins/9909.jpg
Old Crown Inn - Date unknown but could date to 1300s.
http://www.btinternet.com/~jimperkins/9903.jpg
Saracen's Head Pub - Built in 1490
http://www.kingsnorton.org.uk/restoration/images/SH_GJB_012_320.jpg
Aston Hall
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Aston_Hall.jpg
Saint Pauls Church - 1777
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/images/StPaulBirmingham.jpg
Selly Manor - 1300s
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=2262
Weoley Castle - 12th Century
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=147913
Perry Bridge - 1700s
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=90268
There are the ruins of a Roman Fort at Metchley Park and Icknield Street went through Birmingham. There are the remnants of roman roads in Sutton Park too. They look like scars from space.
cristianocani October 29th, 2006, 03:57 PM In Cagliari (Sardinia - Italy) the olest structures are:
The Phoenician necropolis of "Tuvixeddu" (VIII sec. A.C.) - The largest necopolis of mediterranean area:
http://www.fotodisardegna.it/cagliari/tuvixedd/cag1387m.jpg
http://www.fotodisardegna.it/cagliari/tuvixedd/cag1398m.jpg
http://www.fotodisardegna.it/cagliari/tuvixedd/cag1406m.jpg
The Roman amphiteatre (and more other structures - I sec. B.C.)
http://www.anfiteatroromano.it/images/stories/foto01/01.jpg
http://www.anfiteatroromano.it/images/stories/foto01/02.jpg
Tha Byzantine Basilica of "San Saturnino" (V sec. B.C.)
http://www-utenti.dsc.unibo.it/~ncarboni/ig/immagini/foto/s_saturnino.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/45/141314383_0816f2850a.jpg
The Elephant's tower (Pisa's domination - 1307)
http://static.flickr.com/72/179752685_1e1b3f2cfd.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/6/11181226_c2167666ab.jpg
Taller, Better October 29th, 2006, 04:23 PM Toronto is not an old city by European standards, or even by the standards of the Eastern seaboard of America, but our oldest building is a modest log cabin from 1793:
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3272/img6414nc6.jpg
our oldest lighthouse, from 1808:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5393/may2906torontoislandsgiru0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
our oldest banking building, from 1827:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4308/july1406bankofuppercanaqv7.jpg
our oldest pub, from 1832:
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5508/jun1206queenstvxtheblacfv8.jpg
and Osgoode Hall, from around the same time:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8857/may0706osgoodehallier6.jpg
May I say what a fascinating thread this is, and I hope we see lots more pictures from cities all over the world!! :)
mdiederi October 29th, 2006, 04:48 PM In Las Vegas, Nevada, the adobe Old Mormon Fort, originally built in 1855, is the oldest "restored" structure and it's in the downtown area, just north of the freeway on Las Vegas Boulevard, in front of the Cashman baseball stadium. Only a couple of the original adobe walls remain and the rest is recreated.
The Kyle Ranch, established by Conrad Kiel in 1875, is actually the oldest fully extant building, is also adobe and includes a cemetery, but the stupid idiots in charge, who were supposed to turn it into a park and restore the structures, have closed it to the public and allowed industrial development to encroach on the site and also allowed dumping directly on the site and allowed the structures to decay. I think they should be thrown in jail. We don't have much early history here, and now we have even less. >(
Kiel Ranch news story
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4926418&nav=menu102_1_4
Mormon Fort
http://parks.nv.gov/olvmf.htm
http://www.cr.nps.gov/NR/TWHP/wwwlps/lessons/122fort/
http://www.friendsofthefort.org/html/default.view
Kyle Ranch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Ranch
http://dcnr.nv.gov/markers/mark_224.htm
http://www.clan.lib.nv.us/content.asp?id=413
Southern Nevada History
http://www.1st100.com/part1/fremont.html
El_Greco October 29th, 2006, 06:17 PM Btw. Are there any "normal" buildings in London that are very old?
Some hidden gems :
Lincoln's Inn (Late 15th Century)
Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge (1543)
Old Curiosity Shop (1567)
Staple Inn (1586)
Gray's Inn (Late 16th Century)
Prince Henry's Room (1611)
Charlton House (1612)
Apothecaries' Hall (1617)
Church Farmhouse (1660)
Spaniards Inn (16th Century)
Dallas star October 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM In chicago its the water tower
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9835/7f7oq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TheKansan October 29th, 2006, 06:35 PM Rather than show the oldest structure in KC (which is probably some old wooden house, I will show the oldest high-rise. At 13 floors, 55 meters and constructed in 1888, it is the oldest high-rise in the city.
http://www.kcskyscrapers.com/albums/Buildings/utilicorp.jpg
Dallas star October 29th, 2006, 06:36 PM I bet Dubais oldest building is from like 2000 lol
Cobain October 29th, 2006, 06:44 PM Madrid was founded at some point in the 9th century.
The oldest ruins of the city are the medieval city walls, which date from the 10th century.
http://faculty.orangecoastcollege.edu/dcabanel/madrid05/img/esp/muralla_425.jpg
The oldest standing building in Madrid is the San Nicolas church, which dates from the 12th century.
http://www.aviewoncities.com/img/madrid/kvesp0804s.jpg
Then we've got the San Pedro church (15th century) and the Casa de los Lujanes (1400-1410, picture below)
http://www.madridhistorico.com/imagenes/zoom_muy_grande/torrelujanes2.jpg
Other old buildings in Madrid are the House of the Seven Chimneys (Casa de las Siete Chimeneas) from 1577
http://www.madridhistorico.com/imagenes/zoom_muy_grande/casasietechimeneas.jpg
The Segovia Bridge (Puente de Segovia) finished in 1584.
http://www.aviewoncities.com/img/madrid/kvesp0716s.jpg
Or The Bishop's Chapel (Capilla del Obispo) from 1535.
http://elmadridmedieval.jmcastellanos.com/Imagenes/CapillaObispo02.jpg
However, to be precise the oldest and most magical building in Madrid is the Temple of Debod (Templo de Debod) which was build in 200-180 BC. In 1960, due to the construction of the Great Dam of Aswan and the consequent threat it posed to certain monuments and archeological sites, UNESCO made an international call to save this rich historical patrimony. As a sign of gratitude for the help provided by Spain in saving the temples of Abu Simbel, the Egyptian state donated the temple to Spain in 1968. (source: Wikipedia)
http://www.fotomaf.com/albums/userpics/10001/DebodTarde1.jpg
ZZ-II October 29th, 2006, 07:10 PM Castle of my hometown ( Neuburg ).
first land development ~1245
construction to a Renaissance castle: 1527
north wing: 1530
west wing: 1537
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/bf/Schloss_Neuburg.jpg
Erebus555 October 29th, 2006, 07:21 PM ^^That is beautiful. Ich liebe Deutschland! Its my home from home.
New Hall Manor - Claims to be the oldest inhabited moated house in Britain. Dates to 1100s.
http://www.ukhotelnet.com/pics376/AAB220611.jpg
brisavoine October 29th, 2006, 07:23 PM PARIS.
Oldest monument: the obelisk on the Place de la Concorde, originally at the entrance of the Luxor Temple, erected by pharaoh Rameses II around 1250-1200 BC
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Place_de_la_concorde.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Louxor_obelisk_Paris_dsc00780.jpg/350px-Louxor_obelisk_Paris_dsc00780.jpg
Oldest church: Church of Saint-Germain-des-Prés, whose porch tower was built between 990-1014
http://www.welcometoparis.it/Germain/img/germain1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/SGP_02.JPG/450px-SGP_02.JPG
http://france-for-visitors.com/images/large/eglise-saint-germain-des-pres.jpg
Oldest castle: royal Castle of Vincennes built between 1361-1380
The dungeon, the tallest fortified medieval building in Europe:
http://www.iledefrance.org/addon/images/keywords/chateau_vincennes_donjon.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Donjon_du_Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Vincennes.jpg/950px-Donjon_du_Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Vincennes.jpg
http://junga.com/Junga_7_2000/images/VincennesCastle.GIF
The defensive walls and moat:
http://p.vtourist.com/2014179-Vincennes_castle-Vincennes.jpg
http://www.linternaute.com/sortir/patrimoine/ile-de-france/val-de-marne/chateau_de_vincennes/images/image8.jpg
Oldest surviving house: house of alchemist Nicolas Flamel, at 51 rue de Montmorency, built in 1407
http://80.65.232.176/Photos/00/00/04/71/ME0000047198_3.JPG
http://perso.numericable.fr/~bdecorte/Photos/flamel.jpg
Oldest surviving bridge: Pont Neuf, built between 1578-1607
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/DSC00679_Ile_de_la_Cite.JPG/950px-DSC00679_Ile_de_la_Cite.JPG
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/4425/pontneufhd5.jpg
Oldest structure above 1,000 ft: Eiffel Tower, built between 1887-1889
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CAN/11032~Street-View-of-La-Tour-Eiffel-Posters.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/UCPI4.JPG/800px-UCPI4.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Paris_May_2006_004.jpg/450px-Paris_May_2006_004.jpg
ZZ-II October 29th, 2006, 07:25 PM i love the eiffel tower!!
wjfox October 29th, 2006, 07:41 PM Ah yes, I forgot about Cleopatra's Needle. Here's the one in London (and New York has one too) -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Cleopatras.needle.from.thames.london.arp.jpg/781px-Cleopatras.needle.from.thames.london.arp.jpg
Mr Bricks October 29th, 2006, 08:10 PM How old is Cleopatra´s Needle?
El_Greco October 29th, 2006, 08:12 PM ^
It was made in Egypt for the Pharaoh Thotmes III in 1460 BC, making it almost 3,500 years old. It is known as Cleopatra's Needle as it was brought to London from Alexandria, the royal city of Cleopatra.
Mr Bricks October 29th, 2006, 08:26 PM That´s very old! In fact older than London itself :) Do you know how tall it is?
Boeing! October 29th, 2006, 09:55 PM Naples,Italy
Castel dell'Ovo
The edifice is located on a small island, the Megarides where the colonists from Cumae founded the originary nucleus of the city, in the 6th century BCE. In the 1st century CE the Roman patrician Lucius Licinius Lucullus built here a magnificent villa. Fortified by Valentinian III in the early 5th century, it was the place where the last western Roman emperor, Romulus Augustus, was exiled in 476 by Odoacer. The name stems from a legend dating back to the Middle Ages, according to which the poet Virgil had a magical egg put in the foundation to support them.
Later a convent and some fortifications were added to ruining villa, but they were demolished in the 9th century by Neapolitans to avoid its being used by Saracen ravagers. The castle was built by the Normans in the 12th century.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/Castel20dellOvo20Borgomarinaro.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/casovo.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/800px-Castel_dell27Ovo.jpg
Maschio Angioino Castle built in 1279.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/Maschio_Angioino.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/maschioangiono.jpg
Santa Chiara built in 1310
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/santachiara.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/chiara.jpg
Near Naples,Pompeii
It was destroyed during a catastrophic eruption of the volcano Mount Vesuvius in AD 79. The volcano buried the city under many feet of ash and it was lost for 1,600 years before its accidental rediscovery. Since then, its excavation has provided an extraordinarily detailed insight into the life of a city at the height of the Roman Empire.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/Pompeii_the_last_day_1.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/pompei.gif
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/pompei19.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/Pompei201.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/pompei20notturno.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/pompeimorto.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/VILLA20DEI20MISTERI-POMPEI.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/250px-Pompei-villa_dei_misteri01.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/gatea1/91.jpg
spyguy October 30th, 2006, 12:29 AM In chicago its the water tower
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9835/7f7oq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It's actually probably Clarke House (1836)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1183/clarke1aop6.jpg
Although there's probably a good chance there's something older in the suburbs.
Bluewarning October 30th, 2006, 01:00 AM St. Joan of Arc Chapel-1400's the oldest building in North America!
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5124/zjaonofarcop9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
FREKI October 30th, 2006, 01:30 AM Well... for Copenhagen it's a small church called "Brønshøj Kirke" ( translates to something like "Well-Hill Church" ) it's located in the suburb-like district of Brønshøj
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7665/brnshjkirkeyh7.jpg
The main parts was built by Bishop Absalon ( the founder of Copenhagen ) in the 1180's - the red church tower is from 1450
Downtown ( the "old" ) Copenhagen had plenty of buildings even older than the church, but the great fire, time, new construction and a couple of wars killed them all over time...
Today the oldest building you can find downtown is something like Helligåndshuset ( "House of the Holy Ghost" ) from 1460
http://www.planogarkitektur.kk.dk/upload/4_0_arkitektur/visuelt%20bygningsregister/gotik/helligaandshuset_5_s.jpg
Other than that there's plenty of ruins dating way further back - all the way back to the 1000-1100's ( most are found inside or under other old houses )
And the city is packed with buildings from the 1600's like Rosenborg Slot ( 1606 )
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7820/billede080su6.jpg
FREKI October 30th, 2006, 01:47 AM This is btw Denmark's oldest building:
Øm Jættestue ( 3000bc )
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-21-58_0006.jpg
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-28-07_0010.JPG
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-31-51_0014.JPG
Not much room, but for a 5000 year old "condo" it's not bad... :)
http://www.roskildeinfo.dk/foto/jaettestue/Jattestue_INDEL.jpg
If pics aint showing check this gallery out: http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/index.html
LLoydGeorge October 30th, 2006, 01:50 AM Castle of my hometown ( Neuburg ).
first land development ~1245
construction to a Renaissance castle: 1527
north wing: 1530
west wing: 1537
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/bf/Schloss_Neuburg.jpg
That's beautiful!
Metropolitan October 30th, 2006, 03:05 AM I'll start again for Paris as Brisavoine has forgotten many of the oldest structures which are still standing in Paris:
Arena of Lutetia
Built during the 1st century, this amphiteater has been used continuesly untill the first ransack of Lutetia during the 3rd century where its been severly damaged. However, the Frankish king Childéric repaired it in 577 in order to use it for shows.
http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/arenes.jpg
Thermae of Cluny
Built during the 3rd century, the Thermae of Cluny have been subsumed into the Hôtel de Cluny during the 14th century.
http://80.65.232.176/Photos/00/00/01/40/ME0000014048_3.JPG
http://static.flickr.com/18/91434772_964905bb53.jpg
Abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés
Founded during the 6th century by Childebert the First, the church has been partially destroyed during Normans ransacking in the 9th century. Damages have been rebuilt in 1014.
http://80.65.232.176/Photos/00/00/06/44/ME0000064496_3.JPG
http://80.65.232.176/Photos/00/00/06/45/ME0000064500_3.JPG
Conciergerie
Founded during the 7th century, the Conciergerie has been the French royal palace from the 10th to the 14th century.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/7/73/Conciergerie.jpg
Saint-Julien-le-Pauvre
Firstly mentionned in 586 by Grégoire de Tours, this church has been destroyed by Normans and only rebuilt during the 12th century.
http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/64/eglise_saint_julien_le_pauvre.jpg
Notre-Dame
Built from 1163 to 1345, the cathedral has been built at the former location of the Temple of Apollo, during Gallo-Roman times.
http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/notredame2.jpg
Other important medieval buildings:
Hôtel de Sens
http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/sens.jpg
Hôtel de Cluny
http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/cluny2.jpg
Castle of Vincennes
http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/vincennes.jpg
Sainte-Chapelle
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/photos/157_5775.JPG
Metropolitan October 30th, 2006, 03:07 AM I'm sorry, double post.
brisavoine October 30th, 2006, 10:51 AM I'll start again for Paris as Brisavoine has forgotten many of the oldest structures which are still standing in Paris.
I didn't "forget" anything Metropolitan, I simply listed the oldest building/structure in each category. I did not intend to make a comprehensive list of old buildings/structures in Paris, which would take more than one thread to list. Besides, I already showed pictures of Saint-Germain-des-Prés and the Vincennes Castle, if only you had fully read my post.
Manila-X October 30th, 2006, 11:05 AM HK's oldest structures that are either the tenements or some old mansions in The Peak.
But here's a notable one
Clock Tower (Tsim Sha Tsui)
http://www.m-dream.co.uk/images/galleries/kowloon/tst10.jpg
CULWULLA October 30th, 2006, 11:25 AM sydney's oldest building is the Mint bldg (1815)
NorthStar77 October 30th, 2006, 11:57 AM Akershus fortress, built~1290-1310
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/OSLO-NO-02_05_ubt.jpeg/800px-OSLO-NO-02_05_ubt.jpeg
There are also several ruins dating back to around year 1000
http://www.nattguiden.no/imagedb/3/6/7/3.jpeg
OtAkAw October 30th, 2006, 01:52 PM Well not my city, but my country's capital city's oldest building:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9800/180pxsanagustin1ni7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
THE SAN AGUSTIN CHURCH
Location: District of Intramuros, Manila, Philippines
Built between: 1587-1606
Distinction: Oldest stone Church in the Philippines
But I guess the WALLS of Intramuros are older since when building a colonial fortification, of course the walls would have to be built first but since "walls" are not essentially "buildings", I chose to post the San Agustin Church instead.
LLoydGeorge October 30th, 2006, 03:30 PM New York's oldest buildings date from when it was first founded by the Dutch in the 1600's. Here are some of them:
The Wykoff House from 1652
http://www.historichousetrust.org/msmphotos/Wyckoff%20-%20snow.jpg
The Riker-Lent House from 1654
http://www.rikerhome.com/images/home.jpg
Britton Cottage from 1670
http://dlbrittain.com/Britcott.JPG
Hendrick I Lott House
1676
http://www.brooklynonline.com/history/ba/lotthouse/lott.jpg
The Conference House from 1680
http://www.historichousetrust.org/msmphotos/confer1.jpg
The Alice Austin House from 1690
http://www.historichousetrust.org/msmphotos/aausten1.jpg
Vorleezer's House from 1695
http://www.artcom.com/Museums/nv/gl/Historic%20RichmondVoorlezer%20interpreter%20and%20visitors.jpg
The Quaker Meeting House from 1699
http://www.nyym.org/flushing/flushingmh.gif
There are many buildings from the 1600's scattered around New York's suburbs, the oldest of which is this gristmill in Farmington, CT, which dates from the 1640's:
http://booksense-stores.booksense.com/images/stores/1568/general/milluse.jpg
Taller, Better October 30th, 2006, 04:03 PM sydney's oldest building is the Mint bldg (1815)
any pics?
this is really a great thread!!!!!!!!
coastal October 31st, 2006, 03:17 AM Australias oldest public building is Old government house Parramatta, about 20km west of the Sydney CBD part of the metro area.
The central building pictured was built in 1799. Two wings were added later.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2564/govhousewn5.png
Australias oldest european building is Elizabeth Farm.
Work started on the building in 1793, This house is also near the city of Parramatta.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6339/elyfarmkh5.png
When the first fleet landed in Sydney cove the first settlers were soon forced to search for good farm land and they found it upstream from Sydney harbour on the Parramatta river.
hkskyline October 31st, 2006, 04:05 AM Hong Kong's oldest structures are the walled villages in the New Territories, some of which date back hundreds of years.
Example :
http://www.pbase.com/specialteam/image/36460514.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/specialteam/image/36460545.jpg
Source : http://www.pbase.com/specialteam/
I-275westcoastfl October 31st, 2006, 04:28 AM St.Petersburg was founded in the mid 1800's so its not that old, but of the oldest buildings in my city and one with some importance is the Detroit Hotel built in 1888 i couldnt find pics of older buidlings. We do have older buildings but many dont have pictures or arent really that great or important, we also have indian mounds going back a few thousand years.
http://www.floridahistory.org/westcoastfla/arch2/stpetersburg/detroith.jpg
lakerdar123 October 31st, 2006, 04:32 AM the oldest structure in my city of shkoder is this castle built around 5-4th century BC. it was first an acropolis then it was rebuilt into a venetian castle in the 14th century AD.
http://static.flickr.com/9/143968725_b04999d9aa.jpg?v=0
kids November 14th, 2006, 12:50 AM Nice thread. Here are the oldest structures in central Manchester.
Manchester cathedral - first started construction in 1215
http://static.flickr.com/47/134416806_ff9ab1165e.jpg?v=0
Hanging bridge - 1420's (this is now underground and forms a part of the cathedral visitors centre)
http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/2218/hanging2.jpg
http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Manchester_Cathedral_1133795686.jpg
Ordsall hall 1340's
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/SalOrsallHallCls0301.jpg
Cheethams school + library 1421
http://www.chethams.org.uk/img/gateinss.jpg
http://www.chethams.org.uk/img/external6s.jpg
Old wellington pub 1550's
http://static.flickr.com/50/116943845_672fe40d5d.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/121/255962517_939a5f60e9.jpg?v=0
There's also a chunk of roman wall built 1800 years ago hidden under a victorian viaduct somewhere in the city, which i've never been able to find.
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=4904&size=400x316
Ohno November 14th, 2006, 01:01 AM cool, so ancient.
LLoydGeorge November 14th, 2006, 01:38 AM Old wellington pub 1550's
http://static.flickr.com/50/116943845_672fe40d5d.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/121/255962517_939a5f60e9.jpg?v=0
Nice photos. Did Manchester have many fires like London did? I assume that it sustained a lot of bombing during WWII since it was a manufacturing center.
By the way, was the Wellington Pub rebuilt at all? The reason I ask is that most 16th Century timber houses tend to be quite lopsided, yet this one is not. It's a beautiful building at any rate.
Taller, Better November 14th, 2006, 07:37 AM [QUOTE=coastal;10299361]
Australias oldest european building is Elizabeth Farm.
Work started on the building in 1793, This house is also near the city of Parramatta.
QUOTE]
That is so cool... they started on that the same year they started on Toronto's first house! Amazing....
I love that old pub in Manchester.
Anyone with some pix from York, or Chesterfield?
Yörch November 14th, 2006, 08:12 AM Mexico City oldest construction is Pirámide del Sol build in the year 100BC.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/canellemx/229900636_8f0a11ce8a.jpg
Mexico City oldest building is Sagrario Metropolitano (the smaller building of the right) build in 1530AC.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/canellemx/Catedral_de_MC3A9xico.jpg
Bluegate74 November 14th, 2006, 06:03 PM By the time of the 2nd. WW most of Manchesters timber buildings had long since been swept away mainly by the Victorians. There was never any major conflagration either other than the blitx of Xmas 1940 when the ancient market square area, where the Old Wellington pub and Sinclairs Oyster bar once stood, was completely destroyed.
Amazingly this pub and its neighbour survived the raid an in the 1960s were literally picked up and moved on rollers to form the centre piece of a new office and shopping development, not far from their original site. This development was itself demolished a few years ago after being seriously damaged in the IRA bomb attack in 1995? and both buildings were again, dismantled and moved to a new setting next to the cathedral.
The buildings have never really had much of a lean to them, however the photo showing the rear of the building, next to the trees, is actually a modern extension built when the pubs were last moved as they now form two sides of an open square weher beforehand they were side by side along one side of a street.
Nice photos. Did Manchester have many fires like London did? I assume that it sustained a lot of bombing during WWII since it was a manufacturing center.
By the way, was the Wellington Pub rebuilt at all? The reason I ask is that most 16th Century timber houses tend to be quite lopsided, yet this one is not. It's a beautiful building at any rate.
LLoydGeorge November 14th, 2006, 08:35 PM Thanks. I assumed that they were rebuilt since they don't sag. London also has very few 16th Century timber buildings. However, in towns outside of London (e.g., Eaton, Stratford-Upon-Avon, Oxford, Canterbury, etc.) the timber buildings are always quite lopsided.
kids November 14th, 2006, 08:36 PM Hmm, i don't know about fires, however i have read that ironically alot of Manchester's town records were destroyed in Londons great fire. I think Most of Medieval/old Manchester was destroyed by the progressive/ruthless victorians.
However, 100's of photos + illustrations do survive:
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1352
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=9333
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1328
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=2286
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1329
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/
LLoydGeorge November 14th, 2006, 08:43 PM It is a crime that these buildings were razed in the name of "progress."
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=9333
P.S.: The lopsided, sagging quality depicted here is what is referred to earlier.
kids November 14th, 2006, 09:00 PM It is a crime that these buildings were razed in the name of "progress."
Indeed, although if you look at photos like this
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=72581
You can understand how they were seen as slums, i suppose to the victorians there was much more prospect in building shiney new warehouses and offices than to rennovate the old buildings. However now, buildings like the old wellington are cherished.
Hebrewtext November 14th, 2006, 09:13 PM Tel Aviv
4,000 years old ruins , an egyptian time wall
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/2658/32803284yf2.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/9865/32803282ve3.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5492/30273014cl0.jpg
3,000 years old houses from king Solomon kingdom era.
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8500/p200308160198kc.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6351/p200308160212ih.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2770/qasila016hi.jpg
UrbanSophist November 14th, 2006, 09:16 PM http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=72581
Hmm... perhaps the first deconstructionalist architecture?
LEAFS FANATIC November 14th, 2006, 09:42 PM Just some of the many, and more known, oldest buildings in Athens, Greece:
Parthenon, Acropolis:
http://static.flickr.com/119/297528283_4ec7fd1d9b_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/119/297528279_50630f8c6b_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/110/297527677_5d82ede73c_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/109/297527672_9b103e8c83_o.jpg
Herod Atticus Odeon Theatre:
http://static.flickr.com/109/297527674_01f86391f8_o.jpg
Temple of Olympian Zeus:
http://static.flickr.com/107/297528278_6d7660c015_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/116/297528277_7247ef4b0e_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/113/297528275_f18a4028d1_o.jpg
Hadrian's Arch:
http://static.flickr.com/114/297527670_e14147c3ac_o.jpg
Panathinaiko Stadium (Site of the first modern Olympics in 1896):
http://static.flickr.com/103/297527667_e86abc6b31_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/109/297528281_adc930d7d0_o.jpg
LLoydGeorge November 14th, 2006, 09:52 PM Great photos of Athens!
Is it true, however, that the overwhelming majority of Athens is quite new (i.e., from the late 1800's, early 1900's and onward)? That is the case with Cairo. Therefore, Rome, in general has far more ancient buildings than Cairo does. I was wondering if Cairo and Athens were similar in this regard.
Sen November 14th, 2006, 09:56 PM excluding ancient ruins and Great Wall, which lies outside city proper, the oldest surviving structure in Beijing is the buddhist pagoda in Tianning Temple, the temple was originally built in Northern Wei Dynasty (AD 386-534), but the pagoda was built in Liao Dynasty (AD 907-1125), The temple is all in ruins now, only the pagoda survived.
It is rumoured that the pagoda has the part of Buddha's remains inside.
http://www.bjinn.com/images/20050419016.jpg
There are currently plans to rebuild the temple.
Reaperos December 3rd, 2006, 11:28 PM Great photos of Athens!
Is it true, however, that the overwhelming majority of Athens is quite new (i.e., from the late 1800's, early 1900's and onward)? That is the case with Cairo. Therefore, Rome, in general has far more ancient buildings than Cairo does. I was wondering if Cairo and Athens were similar in this regard.
Yes, much of the Vandal architecture was pulled down as was much of Ancient Athens through invasions ect, however Athens has some gems from inbetween Ancient and neo classical:
Church of Panaghia Kapnikarea
Founded 1050 AD on an old temple.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Classic%20Architecture%20Pictures/Athens-HermouStreet2-TheKapnikareaC.jpg
http://www.backcountryrangers.com/Greece/diary/images/20020712sm.jpg
http://www.dresdner-trolle.de/Foto_athen_kapnikarea__mi.jpg
http://www.rollins.edu/Foreign_Lang/Greek/kap2.jpg
http://www.themirl.com/images/Plaka_Church_1.JPG
Tsistarakis Mosque built on a church..next to Hadrian's library in 1759:
http://www.mesogeia.net/athens/places/turkishathens/tsistarakismosque.jpg
http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/tzistarakis-mosque-ceramics-museum-athens-gr032.jpg
http://www.themirl.com/images/Monastiraki_1.JPG
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greece/Cities/Images/HadrianLibrary.jpg
Little mitropoli - 12th century.
http://www.remunda.com/images/mitropoli.jpg
http://www.cityofathens.gr/files/Historic%20Paths/09/d09s17.jpg
Rangabas 11th Century:
http://www.cityofathens.gr/files/Historic%20Paths/07/d07s13.jpg
Kaisariani monastery/ mount Hymettus Athens 11AD:
http://www.sitemason.com/files/hjC96E/grc0005jp.jpg/main.jpg
http://www.sitemason.com/files/ipi2MU/grc0006jp.jpg/main.jpg
http://www.sitemason.com/files/e1UuBy/grc0011jp.jpg/main.jpg
Magic Night December 3rd, 2006, 11:40 PM :drool: :drool:
oliver999 December 4th, 2006, 01:54 PM [QUOTE=Mr_Denmark;10285971]This is btw Denmark's oldest building:
Øm Jættestue ( 3000bc )
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-21-58_0006.jpg
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-28-07_0010.JPG
unbelievable.^^
dom December 5th, 2006, 08:52 PM This is one of the best threads I've seen on SSC. That tower in Kansas City is gorgeous :)
Wise Fool December 5th, 2006, 09:27 PM However, to be precise the oldest and most magical building in Madrid is the Temple of Debod (Templo de Debod) which was build in 200-180 BC. In 1960, due to the construction of the Great Dam of Aswan and the consequent threat it posed to certain monuments and archeological sites, UNESCO made an international call to save this rich historical patrimony. As a sign of gratitude for the help provided by Spain in saving the temples of Abu Simbel, the Egyptian state donated the temple to Spain in 1968. (source: Wikipedia)
http://www.fotomaf.com/albums/userpics/10001/DebodTarde1.jpg
Awesome.! :banana:
However, how was the temple transported? it looks rather large...:dunno:
Wise Fool December 5th, 2006, 09:53 PM This is btw Denmark's oldest building:
Øm Jættestue ( 3000bc )
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-21-58_0006.jpg
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-28-07_0010.JPG
http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/slides/sbnr_020402-13_2006-06-01_06-31-51_0014.JPG
Not much room, but for a 5000 year old "condo" it's not bad... :)
http://www.roskildeinfo.dk/foto/jaettestue/Jattestue_INDEL.jpg
If pics aint showing check this gallery out: http://www.fortidsminder.com/oem_jaettestue/oem_jaettestue_billeder/index.html
Reminds me of a Hobbit-Hole...
Wise Fool December 5th, 2006, 10:00 PM The Riker-Lent House from 1654
http://www.rikerhome.com/images/home.jpg
The oldest dwelling in America? I don't think so...
A Native American dwelling would be.
LLoydGeorge December 5th, 2006, 10:32 PM The oldest dwelling in America? I don't think so...
A Native American dwelling would be.
There are no intact Native American dwellings in the U.S. to my knowledge.
Wise Fool December 5th, 2006, 10:35 PM ^^ The Anasazi stone houses carved from the cliff. They are pretty amazing.
They started building in the canyon about 2000 years ago, but vanished around the year 1200.
Mesa Verde "cliff palace"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Mesaverde_cliffpalace_20030914.752.jpg
"Canyon de Chelly"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Canyon_de_Chelly1.jpg
Wise Fool December 5th, 2006, 11:05 PM Sorry if i got a bit off topic since that aint my city:)
LLoydGeorge December 5th, 2006, 11:33 PM That's cool, but it's not a building per se.
People are always surprised by the number of buildings in NYC from the
1600s. I find it odd, since NY has been around for a long time. Cities like Berlin, Manchester, etc. were small towns when NY was first settled, and some cities, such as St. Petersburg, Russia, didn't even exist.
Wise Fool December 6th, 2006, 12:13 AM You're right, Manchester has been around since Roman times, but it became an important city only after the industrial revolution.
New York, being 400 years old, is old by all standards.
But with the anazasi buildings...
They are 2000 years old! they are pretty well preserved ruins in my opinion.
alsen December 6th, 2006, 03:42 PM wow !!..cool thread.
btw,Mesa Verde look unique
nama December 6th, 2006, 05:00 PM many and many old buildings\churches\monastery\remains all over the world show that we have the archaic and centuries-old gorgeous historical culture.China have plenty of old famous constructures such as GREAT WAll the Imperial Palace etc and some can date back to the QIN dynasty,moreover,some still are buried underground people have never known till now.all these pics are very nice\stunning.
FREKI December 6th, 2006, 10:43 PM Reminds me of a Hobbit-Hole...:)
Tolkien did steal most of his stuff from Nordic Mythology...
It's believed to have been a burial mount turned meeting place after grave robbers... ( we have tons of mounts around around )... the people living back then ( 5000 years ago ) would have lived in wooden houses as most of Denmark was covered in thik forest back then...
Slartibartfas December 7th, 2006, 08:33 PM :)
Tolkien did steal most of his stuff from Nordic Mythology...
It's believed to have been a burial mount turned meeting place after grave robbers... ( we have tons of mounts around around )... the people living back then ( 5000 years ago ) would have lived in wooden houses as most of Denmark was covered in thik forest back then...
Well, those "hobbit holes" can be found all over Europe principally. Also Austria has its fair share of it.
As far as it goes to Tolkien, I would not be surprised if Nordic mythology played an important role. But Tolkiens primary task was principally to make a parallel world of languages anyway. And for a languages you need a world around it....
Wise Fool December 8th, 2006, 06:16 PM Ive heard Tolkien's world was based in Beowulf and other Norse/Germanic stuff.
Balth December 11th, 2006, 02:26 AM Bromma kyrka, 1160.
http://www.santacruz.nu/photo/sommar2001/Anna%20Niclas/10_7A.JPG
Storkyrkan, late 1200s.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Storkyrkan1.jpg
Riddarholmskyrkan, 1200.
http://www.objectif-suede.com/Images/grd_format/Gamla_Stan/Riddarholmen/riddarholmskyrkan.jpg
Saigoneseguy December 11th, 2006, 02:53 AM Hanoi citadel was built in the 6th century, however, only some ruins remain.
http://static.flickr.com/40/103679332_098ca18b9f.jpg
Temple of Literature was built in 1040AD
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/vi/f/f2/Khu%C3%AA_v%C4%83n.jpg
staff December 11th, 2006, 03:45 AM The oldest building that still exists in it's original form is the S:t Peter's Cathedral (or S:t Petri Kyrka in Swedish), built in the early 1300s - a time when Malmö was Danish.
http://www.malmo.se/images/18.1dacb2b109b75417aa80007167/stpetrikyrka.jpg
Cobain December 11th, 2006, 02:44 PM Awesome.! :banana:
However, how was the temple transported? it looks rather large...:dunno:
Good question. It was completely dismantled, then transported to Madrid and rebuilt here.
NewUrban December 11th, 2006, 03:32 PM From the very youthful city of Brisbane:
The Windmill (1828) -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/The-Windmill-1.JPG/530px-The-Windmill-1.JPG
Newstead House (1846) -
http://static.flickr.com/48/126258217_c971da7fa0.jpg
St Stephens Chapel, Interior (1850) -
http://www.brisbanelivingheritage.org/_dbase_upl/ig_css_orig_st_steph.jpg
Old Government House (1862) -
http://static.flickr.com/92/208787130_78d1856804.jpg
St Stephens Cathedral (1874) -
http://static.flickr.com/112/258521683_845d7ca738.jpg
Beholder December 23rd, 2006, 03:43 PM Very cool thread indeed; keep posting please!:lol:
Contribution from The Hague: small castle (late 1200s) with a prominent Knight's hall.
In 1855 it was in a deteriorated state:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6829/ridderzaal1855zj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Several renovations later (1890) it was in better condition:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2593/front1890sw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Buildings standing next to it were also tore down during the last renovation in 1903:
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9876/zijkant1860rr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
photo by Lichtstad ™:
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6388/23lc0.jpg
Knight's Hall (photo summer 2006):
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4671/ridderzaal06or3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Knight's Hall is attached to this castle (photo dec. 2006):
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8436/rolgebouw06iv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It used to have a 'castle-moat', though not much has survived today (photo 1928):
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/131/1928rolgebouwtd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Concerned Potato December 23rd, 2006, 04:58 PM For Birmingham:
Blakesley Hall - Built in 1590.
http://www.btinternet.com/~jimperkins/9909.jpg
Old Crown Inn - Date unknown but could date to 1300s.
http://www.btinternet.com/~jimperkins/9903.jpg
Saracen's Head Pub - Built in 1490
http://www.kingsnorton.org.uk/restoration/images/SH_GJB_012_320.jpg
Aston Hall
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Aston_Hall.jpg
Saint Pauls Church - 1777
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/images/StPaulBirmingham.jpg
Selly Manor - 1300s
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=2262
Weoley Castle - 12th Century
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=147913
Perry Bridge - 1700s
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/Media?MEDIA_ID=90268
There are the ruins of a Roman Fort at Metchley Park and Icknield Street went through Birmingham. There are the remnants of roman roads in Sutton Park too. They look like scars from space.
don't forget the Lad In The Lane pub on Bromford Lane in Erdington
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41941000/jpg/_41941486_ladinthelane203.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/5224702.stm
Pavlvs December 23rd, 2006, 06:13 PM For my city, Rome, is more easy to say which is the youngest building than the oldest one.
Btw, some aegyptian obelisks transported in Rome after the conquest of Egypt.
Circa 3000 y. bC.
eusebius December 23rd, 2006, 07:12 PM Standing since 1354 - Arnhem (NL), Peter's Guest House, first used for coining:
http://www.arneym.nl/images/petersgtotaal.jpg
The fundament of an 8. Century castle, covered in layers of mud brought by the Rhine, is being bared right now.
GrigorisSokratis December 23rd, 2006, 08:39 PM Let me make a little more precise list of Athens:
First we cannot mention all the ancient buildings of the city as there are literally hundreds of them throughout the city (many of us live also over many underground ancient and medieval remainings).
Let's go with one of the oldest:
Keramikos 1,600 BC (in this area you can find the 1600 BC Academos's house, close to the Academy of Platon, so could be considered the oldest house in Athens).
http://www.myphotographs.net/greece/greece016.jpg
The walls of the Akropolis 1,300 BC, though part of them are from the Archaic times 600 BC and parts were restaured in the 470 BC
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4FRdY1F1BQAFhWjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13ngvjff3/EXP=1166984913/**http%3a//www2.ru.ac.za/gallery/albums/Greece2004/The_walls_of_the_Acropolis_from_below_3_April_04.jpg
Most of the Akropolis tens and tens of buildings are from the V century BC and some from the VI BC.
Temple of Thisio 460 BC
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_Rtqed41FmqsAOomjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12mjmdhl6/EXP=1166985502/**http%3a//www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Temples/images/HephaestusAthens1.jpg
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Temples/images/ThHephaestusAthens.jpg
Temple of Zeus built in parts 515 BC - 131 AD
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RquJeI1Ff2EAmuKjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13psp8r0k/EXP=1166985737/**http%3a//www.e-ministers.com/Expeditions/images/Temple%2520of%2520Olympian%2520Zeus,%2520Athens_jpg.jpg
And many more ancient buildings.
Now let's focus on the medieval Athens surviving structures. Despite not a popular between visitors Athens has a very rich medieval history and today the city counts with over 30 intact medieval buildings still standing (much more than many other European cities).
I'll list a some of them:
Dafphni Monasteri 6th-11th century (UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE)
The monastery lies to the west of Athens. The first monastery erected on the site in the 6th century A.D. and was enclosed by strong defensive walls, almost square in plan. The catholicon was a three-aisled basilica which stood in the centre of the courtyard. Along the inner NE side of the walls, two-storeyed buildings were constructed, containing the cells of the monks. A reception hall and a second block of cells were attached on the north wall of the enclosure.
The second phase, dated to the end of the 11th century (around 1080), is the most preserved.
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/212/21201a/00/mb01a031.jpg
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/212/21201a/00/lb01a036.jpg
Pantanasa Church 10th century
http://www.********************/photoalbum/monastiraki/images/003_jpg.jpg
Agios Dimitrios Loumbardaris small church in the type of the basilica with one aisle, on the hill of Philopapou across Akropolis, built during the 9th C. AD and named after St. Demetrios.
http://www.astoriatravel.gr/photos/churches/lombardiaris.jpg
The Kaisariani Monastery 6th- 11th century
Remains of two successive basilicas, dated to the 6th and the 10th century, respectively, have been uncovered. The intact complex seen today was erected in the 11th century.
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/212/21201a/00/lb01a013.jpg
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/212/21201a/00/mb01a011.jpg
http://www.korfoe.net/album/albums/userpics/10248/normal_031_31a.jpg
http://www.sitemason.com/files/ipi2MU/grc0006jp.jpg/main.jpg
http://www.sitemason.com/files/hjC96E/grc0005jp.jpg/main.jpg
AYIOI APOSTOLOI TOU SOLAKI (AD 1000-1025) and it was built above the ruins of a Roman nymphaeon of the 2nd century.
KAPNIKAREA 11th century
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_Rq9EfY1FpdcAYqKjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13ml8iq6l/EXP=1166986948/**http%3a//upl.light.utoronto.ca/trip2003/21.%2520Athens/Athens-Panaghia%2520Kapnikarea%2520Church.jpg
AYIOI THEODOROI 11th century This church was rebuilt in the second half of the 11th century, on the foundations of an older church of the 9th century. It was built by Nicolaos Kalomaos who had the Office of Spatharocandidatos
THE OLD METROPOLIS It was built at the end of the 12th century On the church's facade, notice especially the Attic calendar of feasts on the ancient frieze, which comes from a monument of the 4th century
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RtphfI1FNLIA_5ejzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12624m4if/EXP=1166986721/**http%3a//www.valdyas.org/%7eboud/images/IMG_6643.JPG
Agios Nikolaos Rangavas 11th century
http://www.astoriatravel.gr/photos/churches/rangavas.jpg
Modern Athens 15th-18th century
I'll list some of them as there are lots of examples
METOCHI TOU PANAYIOU TAFOU 17th century
http://www.focusmm.com/greece/pictures/monas_4.jpg
Athens old university 17th century
http://www.chem.uoa.gr/location/athensmap/Images/OldUnivmuseum1.jpg
Athens historical museum 18th century This building was actually constructed as two mansions in the late 18th century that were donated to the state and unified in 1833 to serve as the temporal royal residence, until the new palace (nowadays the parliament) was ready in 1836.
http://www.athensguide.org/image/dat_gallery_image_2-43.jpg
http://www.athensguide.org/image/dat_gallery_image_3-43.jpg
chicagogeorge December 23rd, 2006, 08:54 PM ^^
My ancestrial home (maternal side) in Greece was built before the signing of the declaration of independence.
GrigorisSokratis December 24th, 2006, 05:46 PM Hi Chicagogeorge, but if I'm not wrong you're from Kephallonia (400 kms west of Athens, for those who don't know about the geography of our country), if so I have to mention that in most Greek interior towns, as it happens in countries like Italy also, houses are mostly built before the 18th century, mainly 14th-18th century.
redstone December 24th, 2006, 07:13 PM Singapore's oldest building was John Argyle Maxwell's mansion on the banks of Singapore River, built in 1827. But Mr Maxwell never lived inside, but was leased out to the government. It was subsequently extended and went through many phases, from Supreme Court to Parliament House. Palrliament moved out in 1999, and it was empty for a few years before being renovated to an arts centre.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/503/103dscn0108.jpg
The building with the 'cube' on top wrapped in scaffolding.
However, there are older buildings, dating to 1820, like a few Chinese temples and a few mosques.
eusebius December 25th, 2006, 04:06 AM Very cool thread indeed; keep posting please!:lol:
Contribution from The Hague: small castle (late 1200s) with a prominent Knight's hall.
This is what the 'Ridderzaal' looked like in an artist impression from the 18th Century:
http://www.anno.nl/sites/anno/contents/i002613/actueel-prinsjesdag-binnenh.jpg
The first hall in the 'Binnenhof' was the 'Rolzaal' where announcements were read from a paper roll, hence the name. The 'Ridderzaal' is from the 16th Century.
Beholder December 27th, 2006, 03:15 PM The 'Ridderzaal' is from the 16th Century.
This website in Dutch (http://homepage.residentie.net/~schram-12/cen001.htm) (extended version (http://homepage.residentie.net/~schram-12/gesch02.htm)) may be wrong?
eusebius December 28th, 2006, 05:58 PM This website in Dutch (http://homepage.residentie.net/~schram-12/cen001.htm) (extended version (http://homepage.residentie.net/~schram-12/gesch02.htm)) may be wrong?
No, you misinterpretered the page. Check Encarta. You either mention 'Het Binnenhof' as the oldest, or de Balzaal. The Ridderzaal was built after the Balzaal. Actually, The Hague received city rights only in 1806, so perhaps The Hague shouldn't get a mention at all.
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