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daalbo
January 13th, 2011, 09:16 PM
Saranda airport doesn't have to be a large international airport able to handle 737's it could be alot smaller for starters even a grass field and use internal connecting flights between Tirana - Saranda and Kukes - saranda
You could use a small aircraft like a Cessna Caravan or even DHC-6 Twin otter operating every 2 hours in peak seasons ?

What you're describing would never work. The smallest plane that an airport should be able to handle in order to attract charter flights and significant number of tourists should be one the size of a 737/A320. Flights on those small planes are extremely uneconomical.

kontvrana
January 14th, 2011, 01:00 AM
How about the fact that the new terminal at TIA was over capacity since day one? How's that for lack of vision? How about the fact that they built a new connecting road with only two lanes when the incremental cost would have been relatively low to make it a normal four lane highway? How about the fact that they still haven't bothered to lengthen the runway that would allow non-stop flights to North America for example? How about the fact that the terminal does not have jetbridges? Do you need more?
I know quite well why they haven't done any of these things. Hochtief is in it to make money. They don't care if the terminal is crowded or whatnot as long as that doesn't affect their bottom line. They will do the bare minimum that is required in the contract that they signed with the Albanian government. And the fact that they have already turned a healthy profit at TIA only goes to show that the terms that the Albanian govt offered must have been quite generous. Part of the reason rests with the fact that at the time, TIA was a pioneer of sorts as no other small airport in the region was being run by a large airport mgmt company. And in order to attract Hochtief or whoever, the terms had to be good. It is much easier today for Skopje or Pristina to attract similar investors, because the experiment at TIA showed that it worked. If TIA had been a failure for Hochtief you wouldn't have seen similar investments at PRN or SKP.

You mention it yourself that TIA was an experiment, the outcome was unknown, therefore you need to give credit where credit is due. Any company that takes that leap of faith deserves credit. Of course there is a lot more that can be done, but a lot of good has come out of Hochtief. If you fail to realize that there is no point in discussing.









You have no idea what you're talking about. It serves to check (not that hard today with the internet) before making an ass of yourself.

Well at least I know now how much credit to give you. Your language and attitude has me convinced you are always right.

Aruba is a freaking little island. How's that comparable to Albania?
Same with Antigua.
Not an island, but the same logic applies to Andorra. And I don't even think Andorra has suitable terrain within its borders to build an airport.
Bhutan didn't even have TV until 5 years ago and you're using it as example.
Burundi? Congrats you found a country with one airport, although again who in their right state of mind would use Burundi as the benchmark.
And the rest of your examples have more than one airport with scheduled air service. At the very least you could have made a better effort to find countries with only one airport that are comparable to Albania.

And no one is saying that we should build an airport in Saranda to shorten travel time to Tirana (although Saranda will NEVER be reachable within 2 hours as you suggest). The airport in Saranda is needed to attract tourists from abroad.

If you had paid attention to my examples you would have seen that they were mainly states that started with a's and b's, so someone that did not jump to namecalling would have understood that they came from a list (of all places in internet as per your assumption). I can bring you many other countries with all kinds of letters but you better do the research yourself and realize that many countries (i.e Kuwait, Lebanon) happen to have only one airport.

And it does not help belittle other countries. People in glass houses should not throw stones. I don't know if Bhutan did not have TVs until 5 years ago or not, but it is not as if we have been having them for more than a couple of decades either.

You did not get the last point either. What I am saying is international passengers can easily fly to Tirana and reach Saranda or any other destination in Albania with 2 hours if the infrastructure is good. So let's spend that money on roads and railroads rather than airports which we will never fully use.

daalbo
January 15th, 2011, 02:04 AM
You mention it yourself that TIA was an experiment, the outcome was unknown, therefore you need to give credit where credit is due. Any company that takes that leap of faith deserves credit. Of course there is a lot more that can be done, but a lot of good has come out of Hochtief. If you fail to realize that there is no point in discussing.
Because if you knew anything about aviation you would know that their traffic estimates were extremely low. Also nothing changes the fact that the airport terminal was not build for the future. And there were plenty of people, even on this very board, who were saying years ago how short sighted hochtief was.







Well at least I know now how much credit to give you. Your language and attitude has me convinced you are always right.
Good, at least you know im right. I guess there is hope for you afterall.


If you had paid attention to my examples you would have seen that they were mainly states that started with a's and b's, so someone that did not jump to namecalling would have understood that they came from a list (of all places in internet as per your assumption). I can bring you many other countries with all kinds of letters but you better do the research yourself and realize that many countries (i.e Kuwait, Lebanon) happen to have only one airport.

And it does not help belittle other countries. People in glass houses should not throw stones. I don't know if Bhutan did not have TVs until 5 years ago or not, but it is not as if we have been having them for more than a couple of decades either.

You did not get the last point either. What I am saying is international passengers can easily fly to Tirana and reach Saranda or any other destination in Albania with 2 hours if the infrastructure is good. So let's spend that money on roads and railroads rather than airports which we will never fully use.
BS! You had no idea what you were talking about. Half of the examples you gave about countries with only one airport had more than one. The other half were micro states.
So spare me the bullshit. Not only dont you know shit about aviation but youre too dumb to even check so your whole argument doesnt blow up in your face.

Ermir
January 16th, 2011, 01:32 AM
C'mon, half of your sample countries have an area of less than 1000 km2...they are lucky enough to have one single airport at all...

RolexAL
January 17th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Gjirokastėr, aeroporti shumė shpejt nė funksion.

http://www.balkanweb.com/videoAlbum/popup.php?vIDCategoria=47&IDVideo=8662&va_id_video=8662

YU-AMC
January 17th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Any better pictures of ATC control tower in TIA?

kontvrana
January 17th, 2011, 05:42 PM
C'mon, half of your sample countries have an area of less than 1000 km2...they are lucky enough to have one single airport at all...

what about the other half then??

Ermir
January 17th, 2011, 09:34 PM
Sigh...they have more than 1



-Aruba : 180 km2 , where the hell did they fit an airport?
-Antigua : 281 km2
-Andorra : 467 km2
-Bhutan : poor country landlocked between India and China, with Nepal being quite near
-Burundi : size of Albania, but with the lowest GDP in the world
-Cambodia : at least 3 airports DUH
-Cameroon : 2 airports (Garoua + Douala), maybe more
-Cayman Islands : 264 km2
-Macedonia : 2 airports



So at best, you only have a case with Bhutan

Btw, what yuou call animosity, we call it criticism

daalbo
January 17th, 2011, 10:50 PM
what about the other half then??

The other half had more than one airport. I pointed that out from the very beginning you imbecile. But when I say that not only don't you know anything but you're also too dumb to even construct a semi-credible argument. A simple google search could have helped. And while you do that google search, you might also want to bring me that list of HUNDREDS of countries (your words, not mine) with only one airport. It must come as a shock to you to find out there are not even 200 countries in the whole world and yet you can find HUNDREDS of countries with only one airport. Must be pretty hard going through life while being as dumb as you are.

Tartanzan
January 18th, 2011, 05:26 PM
What you're describing would never work. The smallest plane that an airport should be able to handle in order to attract charter flights and significant number of tourists should be one the size of a 737/A320. Flights on those small planes are extremely uneconomical.

Why so? Could you explain it? I thought the airport taxes have a greater effect...
I don't understand anything about aviation, that's why I'm asking to explain.

kontvrana
January 18th, 2011, 06:39 PM
The other half had more than one airport. I pointed that out from the very beginning you imbecile. But when I say that not only don't you know anything but you're also too dumb to even construct a semi-credible argument. A simple google search could have helped. And while you do that google search, you might also want to bring me that list of HUNDREDS of countries (your words, not mine) with only one airport. It must come as a shock to you to find out there are not even 200 countries in the whole world and yet you can find HUNDREDS of countries with only one airport. Must be pretty hard going through life while being as dumb as you are.

Kuwait has only one INT airport. Lot more developed country with a lot more Int. traffic.

daalbo
January 19th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Why so? Could you explain it? I thought the airport taxes have a greater effect...
I don't understand anything about aviation, that's why I'm asking to explain.

Generally speaking, the larger the plane (the more seats), the cheaper the cost PER passenger. Yes a lot of airports charge landing fees based on the airplane weight and a bigger plane needs more flight attendants and uses more fuel, but on a per passenger basis it is usually cheaper to have larger planes. So let's say there is an airline that wants to bring tourists from Northern Europe to Albania. If it uses a small regional jet, the ticket cost per passenger will be $100, but if it uses a larger plane the ticket cost will be only $80 (the actual numbers are purely for illustration purposes). Long story short, it is not too cost effective to fly small planes. Routes that attract business travelers or can demand higher yields can work with small planes (because ticket prices can be bigger), but usually these are not beach routes, which are dominated by charter flights and low cost carriers. And plus, NO airline would fly to a grass field airport even if it passes all safety requirements. What happens if it rains and it becomes muddy? Cancel the flights until the ground dries up?

daalbo
January 19th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Kuwait has only one INT airport. Lot more developed country with a lot more Int. traffic.
Seriously, stop being a pest now. No one said that no other country in the world has only one airport. But since you are using Kuwait as an example, you might want to know that it is significantly smaller than Albania (area wise) and it is relatively flat. It doesn't take long to travel from one corner of Kuwait to another. Unless you are planning on building tunnels and 8 lane highways across all of Albania, you won't be able to get from Saranda to Tirana in 2 hrs, regardless of how hard you try. And unlike Albania, Kuwait doesn't have an area that attracts tourists that is so hard to reach from the only airport in the country.

Kosovaar
January 19th, 2011, 10:18 PM
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Kosovaar
January 19th, 2011, 10:19 PM
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Illyrian_Patriot
January 29th, 2011, 01:32 PM
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Tirana international airport

Belle air for life :)

Tartanzan
January 30th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Ca u be me STAR AIRWAYS?!

daalbo
January 31st, 2011, 11:50 PM
U mbyll.

Ermir
February 3rd, 2011, 02:38 PM
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Kosovaar
February 3rd, 2011, 11:06 PM
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daalbo
February 5th, 2011, 01:15 PM
Vazhdon rritja e numrit te pasagjereve. 1,536,822 pasagjere ne 2010, 10% rritje. Mallrat rriten ne 4.4%.

http://www.tirana-airport.com/?p=1,En,5,2,,,,,,1,88

jxc
February 10th, 2011, 09:03 PM
I flew into Tirana a couple of weeks ago and I must say the airport is alot better than it used to be in 1999/2000 !
I supplied the contracter building the road with most of stones for underneath huge amount of trucks from up in mountain past chāteaux Linza.

I arrived on Belleair fro London only 24 passengers the thing that made me laugh was it park right opposite the customs door and still had to use a bus. If they parked the right you could have walked on the bus through the back door and walked straight off the front left without having to move it :lol:

The bus to Tirana is great and fantastic value
The only thing that is not nice is the amount of people touting you for a taxi and trying to charge a fortune. I arrived early on my way back to london and asked a taxi to take me to the shopping mall (the big one on Durres/ Tirana road) he wanted 5,000 lek told him where to go .

A little of subject can you still buy cheap cars in Durres ? the ones where you wont take out of the country . where can I go back in Albania monday

AltinD
February 19th, 2011, 05:13 PM
^^ There are Airport Taxis outside, and as an Albanian I've been charged 2,500 Lek for the taxi, though summer of 2009 was the last time I've used a taxi from there. I've used the bus only once and there were only 4 - 5 people inside, almost all of them Albanians clearly living abroad, LOL

AltinD
February 19th, 2011, 05:18 PM
UAE Signs "Open Sky" Air Services Agreement with Albania
Feb 16, 2011 - 10:11 -

Dubai, 16 Feb. 2011(WAM) - The United Arab Emirates represented by the General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) has initialed "open sky" Air Services Agreement (ASA) and signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Republic of Albania in Dubai on 16th February 2011.

The agreement was initialed by Saif Mohammed Al Suwaidi, Director General of the UAE General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) and Ernest Noka, Deputy Minister of Public Works and Transport of Albania. Representatives from Abu Dhabi Department of Transport, Dubai Civil Aviation Authority, Sharjah Department of Civil Aviation, Ras Al Khaimah Department of Civil Aviation, Etihad Airways, Emirate Airline and Fly Dubai attended the negotiations.

The two delegations agreed that any number of designated airlines of both parties will have the right to perform scheduled air services. The UAE delegation designated Emirates Airline, Etihad Airways, Air Arabia, RAK Airways, and FlyDubai as UAE national airlines under the Agreement. The Albanian Delegation designated Albanian Airlines and Belleair as its designated airlines.

The ASA allows full flexibility on the routes, capacity, number of frequencies and types of aircraft, in any type of service (passenger or cargo) on the routes between Albania and the UAE.

The agreement also includes the exercise of full fifth freedom traffic rights at any intermediate and beyond points. In addition, both Parties agreed to allow unrestricted non-scheduled operations between the two countries.

WAM/MAB

http://www.wam.org.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=WamLocEnews&cid=1293605124759&p=1135099400124&pagename=WAM%2FWamLocEnews%2FW-T-LEN-FullNews

AltinD
February 19th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Duke pasur parasysh se per momentin nje fluturim i drejteperdrejte nuk eshte i justifikueshem, perfshirja e "5th Full Freedom" eshte positive sepse i jep mundesi Emirates (mbase dhe Ethihad Airways) qe te bejne stop-over ne Tirane, rruges drejt ndonje destinacioni tjeter, ose mbase duke zgjatur ate te Athines, ose mbase dhe nje i ri Dubai - Tirane - Beograd*.

* Sa here qe udhetoj me Turkish per Dubai, te pakten gjysma e avionit eshte me Shqiptare, Kosovare, Serb, Boshnjak etj.

endriel
February 19th, 2011, 07:53 PM
I am an albanian live in Italy and I dont know why Rayanair and EasyJet dont decide to add like Departure or Arrival Tirana Airport Mother Teresa . Ther is a increasing demand flying in the most important European Cities from Albanians or foregners to Albania but I dont know why this two most famouse low-cost agencies hadnt added Albania like a destination . How we can do smth to bring this two companies "coming" in Albania????????????

daalbo
March 12th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Nje shoqeri e re ajrore, Jetairfly, pritet te fluturoje ne Rinas kete vere me dy fluturime ne jave Bruksel-Tirane. Per ata qe s'e dine, Jetairfly eshte pjese e grupit TUI qe specializohet ne fluturime turistike dhe low-cost. Kjo do i shtohet tre fluturimeve javore Tirane-Bruksel qe do nisi Belle Air. Por nuk e di nqs do kete kaq shume kerkesa per ne Belgjike nga Tirana, dhe duket sikur Belle Air e paska hequr prape fluturimin per ne Liege.

daalbo
March 31st, 2011, 10:25 PM
Nje nga ato lajmet kot, po nejse:

Albania and Kuwait discuss having direct flights between the countries

http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=99642

Nqs (dhe kjo eshte nje NQS e madhe) do kete fluturime direkte (jo charter) per ne Lindjen e Mesme, alternativat jane Dubai, Abu Dhabi ose Katari, dhe jo Kuvajti.

daalbo
April 1st, 2011, 02:09 AM
Dy lajme te reja:

TIA me ne fund i vuri fluturimet live ne website.

Me fillimin e sezonit veror, Lufthansa jo vetem qe e riktheu fluturimin e dyte ditor per ne Mynih por po perdor edhe avione me te medhenj (E195) qe kane 116 vende ne vend te 84 vendeve qe kishin avionet e meparshem (CRJ900).

SADOSI
April 1st, 2011, 05:21 PM
Mire, mund te prisin me shume Gjerman sivjet per pushime.

Tartanzan
May 3rd, 2011, 06:52 PM
http://www.tirana-airport.com/files/gallery/tia-132-L-07042011.jpg
TIA provides self check-in, a new service offered at the terminal area by the check-in hall. The service started operating on 07 April 2011.
Photo: TIA/Armand Habazaj

Tirana International Airport (http://www.tirana-airport.com)

Edi_H
May 3rd, 2011, 07:21 PM
Tiranė, inagurohet godina e re e kontrollit tė trafikut ajror

Inagurimi i godinės sė re tė kontrollit tė trafikut ajror do tė mundėsojė njė rritje tė sigurisė nė fluturim dhe reduktim tė vonesave dhe kostove pėr kompanitė ajrore. Ky investim me vlerė 12.5 milionė euro ėshtė pjesė e projektit tė modernizimit tė Hapėsirės Kombėtare, qė po realizohet nė bashkėpunim me kompaninė amerikane Lockeed Martin.

http://www.balkanweb.com/videoAlbum/popup.php?vIDCategoria=46&IDVideo=10317&va_id_video=10317

Tele-joni
May 4th, 2011, 12:03 AM
I am an albanian live in Italy and I dont know why Rayanair and EasyJet dont decide to add like Departure or Arrival Tirana Airport Mother Teresa . Ther is a increasing demand flying in the most important European Cities from Albanians or foregners to Albania but I dont know why this two most famouse low-cost agencies hadnt added Albania like a destination . How we can do smth to bring this two companies "coming" in Albania????????????

There had been talks of Easyjet commencing flights from London Heathrow to Tirana but BA did not grant them a landing license, due to "security" issues; although no one quite knows how British Airways does this better than Easy-jet or Ryanair would! I suspect BA will continue to monopolise this issue whilst at the same time continuing to dominate the route at ridiculously expensive fares!

When our ambassador complained they said hush your beak as we allow your Albanian Airlines to land at Stanstead....which is really not much competition to them of course as it often runs at much more expensive fares! Though I must say both lines are very comfortable to fly on.

Ps: Great news about the self check-ins...saves having to look at another plastered troll face begging for a handout!

mico74
May 4th, 2011, 04:49 PM
There had been talks of Easyjet commencing flights from London Heathrow to Tirana but BA did not grant them a landing license, due to "security" issues; although no one quite knows how British Airways does this better than Easy-jet or Ryanair would! I suspect BA will continue to monopolise this issue whilst at the same time continuing to dominate the route at ridiculously expensive fares!

I believe you are referring to BAA, not BA. BAA is British Airport Authority (some might call it monopoly) and they own many of the major UK airports including Heathrow and Stansted. They also used to own Gatwick, but they had to sell it recently. So maybe Easyjet should start investigating the possibilities again.. this time from Gatwick.

kodiak23
May 4th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Test Emergjence ne Aeroportin e Tiranes

Foto:TIA / Armand Habazaj

http://www.tirana-airport.com/files/gallery/tia-137-L-12042011.jpg
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Tele-joni
May 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I believe you are referring to BAA, not BA. BAA is British Airport Authority (some might call it monopoly) and they own many of the major UK airports including Heathrow and Stansted. They also used to own Gatwick, but they had to sell it recently. So maybe Easyjet should start investigating the possibilities again.. this time from Gatwick.

Yes, apologies it is BAA I meant. Thanks for correcting me! I hope they do... Regardless of the fact that BA have lowered their prices somewhat, its still just about time BA stooped milking us frankly. What we pay is extortionate and not just for the flight! Getting to Gatwick costs money and then there is car parking fees etc etc Most of the UK Albanian community is concentrated in London so Heathrow would have been better by a long way! But I guess that would make too much sense

daalbo
May 6th, 2011, 12:47 AM
There had been talks of Easyjet commencing flights from London Heathrow to Tirana but BA did not grant them a landing license, due to "security" issues; although no one quite knows how British Airways does this better than Easy-jet or Ryanair would! I suspect BA will continue to monopolise this issue whilst at the same time continuing to dominate the route at ridiculously expensive fares!

When our ambassador complained they said hush your beak as we allow your Albanian Airlines to land at Stanstead....which is really not much competition to them of course as it often runs at much more expensive fares! Though I must say both lines are very comfortable to fly on.

Ps: Great news about the self check-ins...saves having to look at another plastered troll face begging for a handout!

You have no idea what you're talking about. First of all Easyjet does not fly out of Heathrow and was not going to start flights out of Heathrow for a flight to Tirana.:lol: Second of all a Heathrow slot would most likely be too expensive to waste on TIA even for an airline like BA that has a million flights out of that airport. Third of all, BAA never stopped Easyjet or any other airline to fly to TIA. British Airways started their flights from Gatwick when it was still owned by BAA. Albanian Airlines and Belle Air both fly out of Stansted, which is another BAA owned airport. So much for your crazy story.

When Albanian Airlines tried to start flights to London years before British Airways opened Tirana, they were turned down because of lack of security at TIA. This was complete BS in my opinion and if they had no problem with security at airports in Greece, I don't see how they could have a problem with TIA. Anyway, BAA was not involved in this and this was done by the British authorities. BAA like any airport operator would welcome any new flight. And that was something like 6-7 years ago. A lot has changed since then.

As for the original question of why there are no Ryanair or Easyjet flights to Tirana, the question is simple. The demand is simply not there and the low hanging fruits were cherry picked by other carriers like Belle Air. Also due to bilateral regulations, Ryanair can only fly to TIA from Ireland (since it's an Irish airline). Easyjet can only fly from England or Switzerland (since they have a subsidiary established in Switzerland as well). None of these countries provide the year round, high volume traffic that these low cost carriers need to enter a market.

Tele-joni
May 6th, 2011, 08:56 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about. First of all Easyjet does not fly out of Heathrow and was not going to start flights out of Heathrow for a flight to Tirana.:lol: Second of all a Heathrow slot would most likely be too expensive to waste on TIA even for an airline like BA that has a million flights out of that airport. Third of all, BAA never stopped Easyjet or any other airline to fly to TIA. British Airways started their flights from Gatwick when it was still owned by BAA. Albanian Airlines and Belle Air both fly out of Stansted, which is another BAA owned airport. So much for your crazy story.

When Albanian Airlines tried to start flights to London years before British Airways opened Tirana, they were turned down because of lack of security at TIA. This was complete BS in my opinion and if they had no problem with security at airports in Greece, I don't see how they could have a problem with TIA. Anyway, BAA was not involved in this and this was done by the British authorities. BAA like any airport operator would welcome any new flight. And that was something like 6-7 years ago. A lot has changed since then.

As for the original question of why there are no Ryanair or Easyjet flights to Tirana, the question is simple. The demand is simply not there and the low hanging fruits were cherry picked by other carriers like Belle Air. Also due to bilateral regulations, Ryanair can only fly to TIA from Ireland (since it's an Irish airline). Easyjet can only fly from England or Switzerland (since they have a subsidiary established in Switzerland as well). None of these countries provide the year round, high volume traffic that these low cost carriers need to enter a market.

Your point about there not being any demand for it is rather confusing since you then put in alot of emotional effort in explaining how there are now 3 airlines operating this route?!

I wasn't very sure where the security issues lay hence the inverted commas and my comment about Easyjet was based on merely hearsay (which I'd heard from the time these flights were first introduced). I did not check it out before I wrote about it & now that I have, yes you are correct in that easyjet does not fly from Heathrow but BA does. In which case I hope they reconsider their departure from Gatwick to a more convenient Heathrow, although more expensive prices would be anticipated I guess.

daalbo
May 6th, 2011, 09:31 PM
If you didn't check what you wrote and presented stupid Albanian cafe rumors as fact, how is that my fault? And it's even more stupid to continue with your ignorance and trying to prove me wrong. I repeat: the demand is not there for a real low cost to operate to TIA. There might be 3 airlines flying TIA-LON, but that doesn't mean anything. Belle Air just started with a couple of flights a week. Albanian Airlines doesn't even bother flying AT ALL most of the year, and only has a couple of flights in the Summer and during the Winter holidays. Only British Airways has a consistent flight, which again is not daily in the winter. So there might be 3 airlines flying this route, but it's not like there are a million flights on the route. And NONE of these airlines is a true low-cost airline like Easyjet or Ryanair. Belle Air might say that it is but that's BS. Low Cost carriers have very different business models from normal airlines. They rely on VOLUME, whereas other airlines can turn a profit with smaller passenger loads. As such, while it may be profitable for BA to turn a profit on TIA flights, it might not be profitable for Easyjet and their current fare structure. They can always charge more and maybe turn a profit (after all their flights to PRN from Switzerland are not exactly cheap), but then I thought the point of this was to have an airline that flies to TIA with rock bottom prices. And as for BA, they won't transfer the TIA flight to Heathrow anytime soon. While they would get more connecting traffic, room at Heathrow is limited and there are more lucrative markets that can be flown out of there. And also it's quite possible that the TIA flight would not be profitable out of Heathrow. And as for conveniniece it depends on where you're coming from. If you live in west and parts of north London, then yes Heathrow is more convenient. Otherwise it's a toss-up for most of central London and obviously Gatwick has the edge from south and east London (at least until the Crossrail is built).

Tele-joni
May 6th, 2011, 11:41 PM
If you didn't check what you wrote and presented stupid Albanian cafe rumors as fact, how is that my fault? And it's even more stupid to continue with your ignorance and trying to prove me wrong. I repeat: the demand is not there for a real low cost to operate to TIA. There might be 3 airlines flying TIA-LON, but that doesn't mean anything. Belle Air just started with a couple of flights a week. Albanian Airlines doesn't even bother flying AT ALL most of the year, and only has a couple of flights in the Summer and during the Winter holidays. Only British Airways has a consistent flight, which again is not daily in the winter. So there might be 3 airlines flying this route, but it's not like there are a million flights on the route. And NONE of these airlines is a true low-cost airline like Easyjet or Ryanair. Belle Air might say that it is but that's BS. Low Cost carriers have very different business models from normal airlines. They rely on VOLUME, whereas other airlines can turn a profit with smaller passenger loads. As such, while it may be profitable for BA to turn a profit on TIA flights, it might not be profitable for Easyjet and their current fare structure. They can always charge more and maybe turn a profit (after all their flights to PRN from Switzerland are not exactly cheap), but then I thought the point of this was to have an airline that flies to TIA with rock bottom prices. And as for BA, they won't transfer the TIA flight to Heathrow anytime soon. While they would get more connecting traffic, room at Heathrow is limited and there are more lucrative markets that can be flown out of there. And also it's quite possible that the TIA flight would not be profitable out of Heathrow. And as for conveniniece it depends on where you're coming from. If you live in west and parts of north London, then yes Heathrow is more convenient. Otherwise it's a toss-up for most of central London and obviously Gatwick has the edge from south and east London (at least until the Crossrail is built).

You seem to have this compulsion to use derogatory terms towards me and anything I say! :lol: I do not have to prove anything to you but you must remember you are the one quoting what I say! I am happy to admit when I am wrong or I stand corrected; clearly not even half can be said about you tho. I understand you have a point of view but your attitude stinks. You seem to have some sort of personal score to settle with me but as I've said before if you do not deem yourself capable of having an objective argument then do not reply to my posts! Consider this as my true last warning amigo!

daalbo
May 7th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Yes, you are right. I can't stand it when people post stupid, made-up facts. And my argument is 100% objective since it's true. Accuracy makes an argument objective, not attitude and whatnot.

AlbSidro
May 11th, 2011, 07:08 PM
http://www.tirana-airport.com/files/gallery/tia-140-L-06052011.jpg

New air traffic control tower. construction works implemented in collaboration with US Lockheed martin

libofsharaku
May 13th, 2011, 12:42 PM
is this thing in rinas?

Edi_H
May 13th, 2011, 01:01 PM
Yes.

libofsharaku
May 13th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Your point about there not being any demand for it is rather confusing since you then put in alot of emotional effort in explaining how there are now 3 airlines operating this route?!

I wasn't very sure where the security issues lay hence the inverted commas and my comment about Easyjet was based on merely hearsay (which I'd heard from the time these flights were first introduced). I did not check it out before I wrote about it & now that I have, yes you are correct in that easyjet does not fly from Heathrow but BA does. In which case I hope they reconsider their departure from Gatwick to a more convenient Heathrow, although more expensive prices would be anticipated I guess.

to chime in on your prissy little heated exchange, i think the likes of no frills, low fares airlines such as ryanair and easyjet are all about the bottom line, its all about churning out numbers, quick turnaround times and cheap landing and airport handling fees, i reckon TIA would more than adequately fullfil the later two, the problem is volume of passengers, they fly point-to-point so they don't do transit flights either and they are based in ireland and england, they recently added another base in belgium and i doubt there's be a massive amount of passenger traffic coming from those countries....well not enough to be a sustainable, profitable business according to their model and value chain, they won't do seasonal flights either because th set up costs would be astronomical for companies obessessed with bottom line, bit of a dilemma.

mico74
May 13th, 2011, 04:47 PM
to chime in on your prissy little heated exchange, i think the likes of no frills, low fares airlines such as ryanair and easyjet are all about the bottom line, its all about churning out numbers, <clip> ... <clip> they won't do seasonal flights either because th set up costs would be astronomical for companies obessessed with bottom line, bit of a dilemma.

Maybe you should check your "facts" first. Easyjet do seasonal flights. For example they are not flying between Gatwick and Corfu between November-March. End of March they start daily flights in that route and gradually add even more so that in the highest season they fly that route twice a day every day. That has been the case the last 2 years at least.. probably longer but I've been interested in that route only the last 2 years. The same thing applies to many smaller Mediterranean destinations (feel free to check their schedules). So of course they are only interested in the bottom line (running an airline is not a charity business) and that's why they offer seasonal flights to many destinations as it's not profitable to do it in the winter time.

libofsharaku
May 13th, 2011, 09:38 PM
Maybe you should check your "facts" first. Easyjet do seasonal flights. For example they are not flying between Gatwick and Corfu between November-March. End of March they start daily flights in that route and gradually add even more so that in the highest season they fly that route twice a day every day. That has been the case the last 2 years at least.. probably longer but I've been interested in that route only the last 2 years. The same thing applies to many smaller Mediterranean destinations (feel free to check their schedules). So of course they are only interested in the bottom line (running an airline is not a charity business) and that's why they offer seasonal flights to many destinations as it's not profitable to do it in the winter time.

what are you talking about? i was talking within the context of albania mate, i didn't say ryanair and easyjet don't do seasonal flights, what i am saying is that there isn't a viable amount of passengers to sustain a seasonal operation in albania, because we are not a tourist destination as the likes of corfu, crete, dubrovnik are, they can afford to set up seasonally in those cities because there is a huge passenger traffic heading there, the no frills model only works when there is a huge number of people flying. you are talking about smth else shoku

daalbo
May 15th, 2011, 01:48 AM
is this thing in rinas?

No, this is right next to city hall. Control towers are not built at airports anymore, but in the middle of cities. The stupidity of some people is unbelievable.


they fly point-to-point so they don't do transit flights either and they are based in ireland and england, they recently added another base in belgium
Both easyjet and ryanair have bases ALL OVER EUROPE (and have had them for years), not just Ireland, England and Belgium. Seriously, why do people that have no idea about the airline industry decide to add their retarded two cents.

daalbo
June 9th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Hochtief is looking to sell their airport mgmt division. Haven't had time to dig into this more, but news are floating around. If I remember correctly, one valuation that I saw was around $1.8B (or maybe it was in Euros, don't remember). This is for their entire airport portfolio and Rinas is the smallest airport they operate.

SADOSI
June 9th, 2011, 01:27 AM
It would be perfect if this sale made their monopoly on civil aviation in the country contract void.

AltinD
June 11th, 2011, 08:04 PM
^^ Totally unrelated and irrelevant.

SADOSI
June 11th, 2011, 09:35 PM
^^In which context?

StevenNL
June 11th, 2011, 11:14 PM
In the economic context, makes no sense. lol

AltinD
June 12th, 2011, 08:51 AM
^^In which context?

In the context of the ownership of the company, and change ot it herewith.

The Airport managment contract is with the company, not the owners of the company.

AltinD
June 12th, 2011, 08:54 AM
In the economic context, makes no sense. lol

What economic context? If there's one, it's not really related to the Rinas Airport, since that constitute a not-so-significant part of the company's business.

Ermir
June 13th, 2011, 11:29 AM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7373/screenshot7ax.png

http://www.tirana-airport.com.al/

AlbSidro
June 13th, 2011, 05:27 PM
^^

http://i52.tinypic.com/n17b48.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/209jywl.jpg

SADOSI
June 14th, 2011, 11:40 AM
In the context of the ownership of the company, and change ot it herewith.

The Airport managment contract is with the company, not the owners of the company.

Just wishful thinking :D But the new owners may be more flexible..

AltinD
June 14th, 2011, 03:42 PM
^^ More flexible on what?

Ermir
June 14th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Dmth te lejojne me shume se nje aeroport?

libofsharaku
June 14th, 2011, 04:27 PM
what's the agreement with that german company? do they effectively own all albanian arispace for the foreseeable future or what? well that wasn't a very savvy deal on our part now was it? i think nano was the wanker that signed off on that, load of bollox that was, talk about getting the raw end of the deal.

AltinD
June 14th, 2011, 05:35 PM
^^ If you don't have much bargaining leverage, that's what you get.

SADOSI
June 16th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Dmth te lejojne me shume se nje aeroport?

Precisely.:)

daalbo
June 17th, 2011, 02:21 AM
^^ If you don't have much bargaining leverage, that's what you get.

True, but the contract was very short sighted on our part. Regardless how small Rinas is, it is profitable. Hochtief has said this much. Obviously profit is not in the hundreds of millions of dollars, but I'm willing to bet that it is quite healthy given the high landing fees and the solid increase in the number of passengers. And big profits don't necessarily come with big airports. Look at BAA, the operator of the largest airport in Europe, Heathrow. They're losing money. Granted that when the contract was signed, no other small airport in the region was privatized and to be fair a lot of good work has been done at Rinas (although I have my reservations). But still, all the calculations were done with mediocre growth projections and all potential upside was given to Hochtief. That was ridiculous. TIA has been a home-run for Hochtief and performed way better than expected. Hochtief is selling (at least according to rumors floating in the media) its airport division because they want to concentrate on their core business, which is construction. The market is simply putting no value on their airport division, and they can increase shareholder value by either selling it or spinning it off or even doing equity carve-outs (if they haven't already done so).

Ermir
June 19th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Arrestohet bosi turk i Albanian Airlines

Tiranė, 19 qershor - Ėshtė arrestuar nė Spanjė pronari i kompanisė ajrore shqiptare Albanian Airlines, Ali Evsen. Sipas medies turke, 49 vjeēari sė bashku me njė biznesmen egjiptian janė ndaluar nė Spanjė me akuzėn pastrim parash, dhėnie ryshfeti dhe korrupsion.

Duke iu referuar policisė iberike, mediet turke theksojnė se egjiptiani i arrestuar ėshtė djali i biznesmetit Hysein Salem, njė nga njerėzit mė tė afėrt tė ish-presidentit egjiptian Hosni Mubarak.

Gjithashtu, theksohet se biznesmeni egjiptian, i cili ėshtė njė nga aksionarėt mė tė mėdhenj tė kompanisė East Mediterranean Gas, i ka shitur Izraelit gaz nėn ēmimin e tregut, duke i shkaktuar njė dėm tė madh burimeve publike. Paratė e fituara nga ky biznes janė depozituar nė llogaritė e tyre bankare nė Spanjė.

Ndėrkohė, agjencia amerikane e lajmeve Associated Press (AP) shkruan se policia spanjolle ka ngrirė llogarinė bankare prej 33 milionė eurosh tė egjiptianit Salem. Duke iu referuar po kėsaj agjencie, biznesmenit turk Ali Evsen punonte si garant dhe nėpėrmjet kompanive tė tij i dėrgonte paratė familjes egjiptiane Salem, transmeton TCH.

Garancia qė duhet tė lėnė dy biznesmenėt egjiptianė pėr t’u hetuar nė gjendje tė lirė ėshtė rreth 30 milionė euro, ndėrkohė qė pėr turkun Ali Evsen ėshtė caktuar 18 milionė euro.

Sipas medieve, arrestimi i biznesmenit egjiptian mund tė nxjerrė nė dritė korrupsionin e bėrė nė kohėn e qeverisjes sė Hosni Mubarakut, dhe miliona dollarėt qė ish-presidenti transportonte jashtė Egjiptit.

Ali Evsen, ėshtė aksionari kryesor i kompanisė shqiptare Albanian Airlines, me 93 pėr qind tė aksioneve, me vlerė rreth 2.9 miliardė lekė.

http://koha.net/?page=1,14,59385

Jagogen
June 28th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Albanian Airlines today cancelled all flights from London Stansted including mine.I don't know if this has to do whith their boss being caught,or only because they don't have enough passengers.All I know is they will not be doing London for this season.

daalbo
June 28th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Albanian Airlines is a mess, and has been so for quite a while. Their London flights were supposed to restart the second week of July or so (I'm assuming you learned that your flight got cancelled today and not that you were flying today). It doesn't surprise me one bit that their flights got suspended since it seems like the only flight that they seem to operate regularly are the daily flights to Bologna and the 3-4 weekly to Torino. I wonder how long until they shut down completely.

RolexAL
July 5th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Ulje ne Rinas.

hHjpKh7g5uY

k0ntir
July 7th, 2011, 03:59 AM
^^ Edhe ketu vizat me gelqere? :lol: (Bej shaka) Bukur po me pelqen

StevenNL
July 7th, 2011, 04:29 AM
Prishtina po e planifikon terminalin e saj me air bridges. Kurse tirana edhe pse me shume pasangjer shpresoj ti vendosi gjithashtu.

LegitimateAnswer
July 7th, 2011, 06:40 AM
^^ Jealous...jk :lol:

Tartanzan
July 7th, 2011, 10:20 AM
^^ Edhe ketu vizat me gelqere? :lol: (Bej shaka) Bukur po me pelqen

Eshte nga frenimi i forte i avioneve kur ulen ne piste.

AltinD
July 7th, 2011, 03:05 PM
... dmth, nuk eshte fshire viza por mbuluar me gome (avioni) te shkrire.

Tartanzan
July 7th, 2011, 03:53 PM
... dmth, nuk eshte fshire viza por mbuluar me gome (avioni) te shkrire.

Ashtu duket. Une nuk jam ekspert per keto pune, por kete "fenomen" e kam pare edhe ne aeroporte te tjera.

RolexAL
July 7th, 2011, 10:38 PM
Prishtina po e planifikon terminalin e saj me air bridges. Kurse tirana edhe pse me shume pasangjer shpresoj ti vendosi gjithashtu.

Prishtina Strong!!!

daalbo
July 7th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Prishtina po e planifikon terminalin e saj me air bridges. Kurse tirana edhe pse me shume pasangjer shpresoj ti vendosi gjithashtu.

Terminali aktual i Tiranes nuk lejon instalimin e jetbridges.

k0ntir
July 8th, 2011, 06:16 AM
Eshte nga frenimi i forte i avioneve kur ulen ne piste.

E di por thashe se mos i kishte bere punimet ne rinas bashkia e tr dhe i kishte bere vizat me gelqere :nuts:

AltinD
July 8th, 2011, 12:39 PM
^^ TI e di qe Rinasi (si katund) nuk eshte ne administrim te Bashkise se Tiranes, apo jo? :D


.... ne mos gaboj, as nuk eshte ne rrethin e Tiranes fare, por ne ate te Krujes.

Tartanzan
July 8th, 2011, 12:41 PM
.... ne mos gaboj, as nuk eshte ne rrethin e Tiranes fare, por ne ate te Krujes.

E sakte!

k0ntir
July 9th, 2011, 04:44 AM
^^ TI e di qe Rinasi (si katund) nuk eshte ne administrim te Bashkise se Tiranes, apo jo? :D


.... ne mos gaboj, as nuk eshte ne rrethin e Tiranes fare, por ne ate te Krujes.

E di e di po thashe se mos e kishte fituar tenderin internacional nderkombetar kombetar qytetar fshatar bashkia e tr per ndertimin e aeroportit :lol: :nuts:

rene1234
July 10th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Po me aeroportin e Kukesit cfare po behet, ka ndonje plan per ta vene ne pune apo jo?

Buki
July 11th, 2011, 12:13 AM
Po me aeroportin e Kukesit cfare po behet, ka ndonje plan per ta vene ne pune apo jo?

Shume me logjike do ishte te ndertohet nje Aeroport ne jug te Shqiperise (Sarande apo Vlore).

k0ntir
July 11th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Shume me logjike do ishte te ndertohet nje Aeroport ne jug te Shqiperise (Sarande apo Vlore).

Sikur kishte nje plan per ne sarande por nuk e shikoj te arsyeshme per momentin.

rene1234
July 11th, 2011, 12:51 AM
Shume me logjike do ishte te ndertohet nje Aeroport ne jug te Shqiperise (Sarande apo Vlore).

Ceshtja eshte se aeroporti i Kukesit eshte ndertuar e ka mabruar me kohe, vetem se nuk e kane vene ne pune..per sa i perket jugut ka qene plani per te ndertuar nje aeroport ne Sarande, dhe per te vene ne pune aeroportin e Gjirokastres..por sic e thashe nuk e lejon kontrata me kompanine gjermane te Rinasit..Kukesi ka mbi 3 vjet qe rri mbyllur per shkak te tyre, sepse nuk lejojne nje aeroport te dyte nderkombtar sipas kontrates pervec Tiranes deri ne 2025:nuts:

k0ntir
July 11th, 2011, 01:06 AM
^^ Sa per aeroport nderkombetar kuksi si i vogel. Dhe ai i gjirokastres apo i sarandes gjithashtu te vegjel do jene. Sdo kete fluturime jashte. Brenda per brenda do ishte ide e mire. Po kush fluturon ne shqiperi nga kuksi per ne tirane ose sarande? Bileta do jete disi e kushtueshme per njerzit aty. Keshtu qe ne furgon dhe drejt ne tr per 10 mije lek.

Buki
July 11th, 2011, 09:34 AM
^^ Une mendoj se Shqiperia ka nevoje per nje Aeroport ne Jug te saj (jo shume te madh, por definitivisht nderkombetar) kryesisht per arsye te Turizmit por do ishte i mireseardhur edhe per mergimtaret e Jugut.

Te gjitha shtetet ne rajon te cilat e kane identifikuar turizmin si nje nder shtyllat e zhvillimit ekonomik te tyre e kane bere te njejten gje: Ohri ne Maqedoni, Dubrovniku ne Kroaci, Tivati ne Mal te Zi etj.

Nuk mund te pretendojme se kemi nje oferte serioze turistike nese nuk kemi se paku nje Aerport ne vijen bregdetare (sidomos ne Jug te Shqiperise sepse Durresi edhe ashtu nuk eshte shum larg Rinasit).

Buki
July 11th, 2011, 09:45 AM
..por sic e thashe nuk e lejon kontrata me kompanine gjermane te Rinasit..Kukesi ka mbi 3 vjet qe rri mbyllur per shkak te tyre, sepse nuk lejojne nje aeroport te dyte nderkombtar sipas kontrates pervec Tiranes deri ne 2025:nuts:

Une mendoj se kjo kontrate duhet ri-definuar.

Po qe nevoja le te krijohet mundesia qe po te njejtes kompani ti ipet ne menaxhim edhe Aeroporti i ri qe do ndertohej ne Sarande.

Tartanzan
July 11th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Une mendoj se kjo kontrate duhet ri-definuar.

Po qe nevoja le te krijohet mundesia qe po te njejtes kompani ti ipet ne menaxhim edhe Aeroporti i ri qe do ndertohej ne Sarande.

Sic kam lexuar disa here ne mediat shqiptare, diskutimet per ri-shikimin e kontrates midis Qeverise Shqiptare dhe kompanise koncesionare jane ne procesin e siper.

doctorx
July 11th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Po me aeroportin e Kukesit cfare po behet, ka ndonje plan per ta vene ne pune apo jo?
Kukesi dhe ajo zona andej s'ka ndonje popullsi te madhe qe leviz shume dhe keta meqe ishte si aeroport vendosen ta rikonstruktonin. Ai ndonjehere sherben si baze per stervitjet qe bejne FA dhe vetem per kete ka per te sherbyer te pakten per ca kohe!

KingGenti
July 13th, 2011, 12:37 PM
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2750/dsc0259o.jpg

7t
July 31st, 2011, 03:28 AM
Aeroporti Ndėrkombėtar i Tiranės regjistron 23% rritje nė gjashtėmujorin e parė tė 2011-ės

• Aeroporti shėnon njė nga rritjet mė tė larta
• Shifrat e kargos rriten me 17 pėr qind ndėrsa ATM-tė me 11 pėr qind

Aeroporti Ndėrkombėtar i Tiranės (TIA) ka patur njė performancė tė shkėlqyer nė gjashtėmujorin e parė tė kėtij viti. Aeroporti ka shėnuar 23 pėrqind rritje nė shifrat e pasagjerėve, 10.6 pėrqind rritje nė lėvizjet e trafikut ajror (ATM) dhe pėrpunimi i mallrave u rrit me 17.7 pėrqind krahasuar me po tė njėjtėn periudhė tė vitit tė kaluar. Nga janari deri nė qershor TIA u ka shėrbyer 793,984 pasagjerėve, njė shifėr mbresėlėnėse e cila tregon standardet e larta tė shėrbimit tė ofruara nga Aeroporti. TIA gjithashtu shėnoi 10,352 lėvizje tė ATM-ve dhe pėrpunoi 1,084 tonė kargo.

“2011-ta ka qenė vit ndryshimesh tė mėdha, jo vetėm pėr Aeroportin i cili ėshtė njė nga portat kryesore pėr nė Tiranė, por dhe pėr tė gjithė vendin. Liberalizimi i vizave ka ndikuar ndjeshėm nė kompaninė tonė: ka sjellė rritjen e fluksit nė kėrkesėn vendase pėr tė fluturuar, dukuri kjo e cila ka rritur ofertat dhe numrin destinacioneve nga kompanitė ajrore,”- tha Z. Rolf Castro-Vasquez, Drejtor i Pėrgjithshėm i Operacioneve nė TIA.

Linjat ajrore tė cilat kanė shėnuar fluksin mė tė madh tė pasagjerėve janė: Belleair (46.2%), Alitalia (9.6%), Albanian Airlines (9.1%), Austrian Airlines (6.1%) dhe Turkish Airlines (4.2%). Sot nė TIA operojnė katėrmbėdhjetė linja ajrore tė cilat e lidhin kryeqytetin me 35 destinacione tė ndryshme duke pėrfshirė kėtu Brukselin, Barcelonėn dhe Parisin, tė cilat u pėruruan kėtė vit pėr sezonin e verės.
Aeroporti po bėhet gjithmonė e mė tėrheqės pėr linjat ajrore, vendimi i tė cilave pėr tė shtuar numrin e destinacioneve bazohet mbi rritjen mbresėlėnėse qė ka patur aeroporti nė numėr pasagjerėsh dy vitet e fundit. Nė qershor, linja ajrore e njohur low-cost Jetair mbėrriti nė TIA, e cila ofron fluturime midis TIA-s dhe Brukselit dy herė nė javė.

http://www.tirana-airport.com/?RoseToken=160172155187150151177202197084168180238114147163156090150154149152154155089155156154160212180090168180231crc465

L1nk1g
August 5th, 2011, 12:19 AM
Disa foto te fresketa nga Rinasi (te djeshme) :) fatkeqsisht ne cilesi celulari,por mund te shikohen dy pamje nga terminali dhe dy te tjera ku mund te shikohet kulla e re e kontrollit dhe disa makineri per self check-in qe mesa duket ende sjane vene ne perdorim por qe skane me shume se 2 jave atje. :D


http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx107/FSCkristi/IMG_0518.jpg?t=1312496160

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx107/FSCkristi/IMG_0521.jpg?t=1312496159

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx107/FSCkristi/IMG_0520.jpg?t=1312496159

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx107/FSCkristi/IMG_0523.jpg?t=1312496162

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx107/FSCkristi/IMG_0524.jpg?t=1312496336

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 03:24 AM
Kerkova info per aeroportin e Gjirokastres, shtyre nga kurioziteti pasi po ri-lexoja romanin "Kronike ne Gur" te Kadarese, e sic citon ne fund aeroporti pas ikjes se Italianeve u kthye ne nje fushe ku vende-vende kishte mbire bari.
Sinqerisht mendova se sot do ishte kthyer ne pallate po ja qe me genjeu instikti :cheers: !!!

Gjirokastėr, aeroporti shumė shpejt nė funksion.

JKmkBJ3texI

Aeroporti i Gjirokastres duket se shume shpejt mund te rivihet serish ne funksionim. Kompania italiane Rotor Service pritet te marre me koncension kete aeroport, qe do ti jepte nje tjeter stimul turizmit te qytetit jugor.

7t
September 22nd, 2011, 03:32 AM
"Terminali" ekzistues me ne sfond Malin e Gjerė

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc392/e3263518/terminali.png

L1nk1g
September 22nd, 2011, 01:54 PM
Kerkova info per aeroportin e Gjirokastres, shtyre nga kurioziteti pasi po ri-lexoja romanin "Kronike ne Gur" te Kadarese, e sic citon ne fund aeroporti pas ikjes se Italianeve u kthye ne nje fushe ku vende-vende kishte mbire bari.
Sinqerisht mendova se sot do ishte kthyer ne pallate po ja qe me genjeu instikti :cheers: !!!

Ndoshta se kishe pare qe ka nje vit ky lajm kur e gjete.

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 01:59 PM
Janar 2011 eshte!! Po nuk e ve ne dyshim qe askush nuk do te kete interes t'a marre me koncesion per aq kohe sa nuk ka leje te operoje ne tregun nderkombetar....sa per aviacion ushtarak nuk ka c'na duhet aq shume, dhe aq sa jane shume jane...

p.s. paska pasur te drejte Kadarč, paska mbire bari me verte ne piste :popcorn: !!!

L1nk1g
September 22nd, 2011, 02:04 PM
^^
Mire pra meqe ai qenka vetem i para 9 muajsh na lajmin e sotshem.

Duket se tė paktėn edhe pėr tre vjet tė tjera nė Shqipėri do tė operojė njė aeroport i vetėm, ai i Tiranės, ndėrkombėtari “Nėnė Tereza”.

Nė dokumentin zyrtar tė Ministrisė sė Transporteve, miratuar sė fundmi nė qeveri, te sektori i ‘transportit ajror’, nuk pėrmendet asnjė projekt i ri pėr ndėrtimin e njė aeroporti tjetėr.

Ndryshe nga sa kishte deklaruar Kryeministri apo vetė ministri Sokol Olldashi se po negociohet pėr ndėrtimin e njė piste tė re, nė Jug tė vendit, nė strategjinė trevjeēare pėr vitet 2012-2014, nuk ofrohet asnjė zhvillim pėr sektorin, por mjaftohet vetėm me disa projekte trajnimi, blerje pajisjesh pėr zyrat dhe ėorkshop-e jashtė shtetit pėr tė arritur standardet.

Shpresat pėr ngritjen e njė aeroporti tjetėr shuhen me planin e fundit tė ministrisė, kurse shqiptarėt do tė vijojnė ende tė vuajnė kostot e larta tė udhėtimit, pėr shkak tė monopolit gjerman tė “Rinasit”.

Situata paraqitet negative edhe pėr aeroportin e mbetur si “depo” pėr ulje-ngritjet emergjente nė Veri tė vendit.

Linja e Kukėsit, aty ku mundėsitė ishin mė tė mėdha, duket se nuk po merr zgjidhje. Ministria thotė se do tė bėjė pėrpjekje pėr ta futur nė punė, pėr qėllime civile (udhėtime), kurse pėr mallrat mėsohet se lėvizjet ndodhin herė pas here, nė varėsi tė situatės.

Pėr kėtė aeroport, ministri nuk parashikon asnjė zhvillim nė interes tė shqiptarėve, por vetėm shpenzime pėr rojet dhe karburant, me njė vlerė mesatare pėr tre vitet e ardhshme 16 milionė lekė nė vit.

Ja ēfarė thotė ministria nė strategjinė sektoriale pėr aeroportet, marrė nga dokumenti zyrtar, pėr vitin 2012.

“...Pėrfshirja me tė drejta tė plota e transportit ajror nė Zonėn e Pėrbashkėt Europiane tė Aviacionit (ECAA) dhe nė iniciativėn e ‘Qiellit tė vetėm Europian’. Implementimi i standardeve ndėrkombėtare tashmė tė sanksionuara nė sistemin legjislativ kombėtar, nėpėrmjet pėrshtatjes sė akteve rregullatore tė fushės sė transportit ajror me ‘acquis communautarie’ nė kėtė fushė. Rritja e performancės sė administratės sė aviacionit civil tashmė e ristrukturuar sipas standardeve europiane. Ruajtja e investimeve tė kryera nė aeroportin e Kukėsit”.

Tė ndara nė pika, kėto ishin synimet e ministrisė, pėr vitin e ardhshme dhe janė gati tė njėjtat edhe pėr vitet 2013-2014.

Nė fakt, prej kohėsh qeveria dhe kompania gjermane qė menaxhon aeroportin e vetėm nė Shqipėri janė nė diskutime pėr rishikimin e kontratės 20-vjeēare, e cila i jep tė drejtėn koncesionarit pėr tė operuar i vetėm deri nė 2025-n.

Berisha e ka pranuar se kontrata nuk ėshtė hartuar nė kushtet e duhura dhe se kėrkon njė ndryshim tė saj, nė interes tė dy palėve. Nga Ministria e Transporteve mėsohet informacioni se pala shqiptare i ka ofruar gjermanėve disa alternativa.

E para, marrja nė dorėzim e aeroportit tė Kukėsit, ku edhe pse do ta kishte sėrish e njėjta kompani, tė paktėn do tė kishin dy linja.

Varianti i dytė i propozuar ėshtė ndėrtimi i aeroportit tė Sarandės, po nga gjermanėt dhe i menaxhuar sėrish nga koncesionari. Kurse pala private i mohon kėto zhvillime, ndėrsa pretendon se nė bazė tė njė studimi rezulton i paleverdisshėm menaxhimi i Kukėsit apo ndėrtimi i linjės nė Sarandė.

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 02:16 PM
LAKV - Kucove Ab Airport Information
Located in Kucove, Albania : ICAO - LAKV

Current UTC:
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Local Standard Time:
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Elevation (ft):
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Max. hard surfaced runway (ft):9318 x 220

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AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 02:28 PM
^^
Mire pra meqe ai qenka vetem i para 9 muajsh na lajmin e sotshem.

.....nuk ka nevoje fare te kesh lexuar lajmin ta kuptosh qe eshte shkruar nga Top Channel!! :lol:

#1- Te jep nje draft operativ e te thote: nuk do te kete investime per 4 vitet e ardhshme, duke e lidhur me ndertimin e nje aeroporti te ri, nderkohe qe shqiperia ka te pakten 3-4 ekzistent te cilet presin nje dore e nje leje qarkullimi (?)

#2- Nga mund t'a dine keta zoterinjte planin 4-vjecar, kur ti mund te ulesh sot ne tryeze me kompanine koncesionare e ta zgjidhesh ngercin, e neser Kukesin e ke operativ.

#3- Kompania gjermane nuk e kishte shitur paketen e maxhorances?! Ne kete forum e kam lexuar t'i meshohet shume here.

#4- Anash e anash me spond e me spond duan te perbaltin qeverine aktuale, duke anashkaluar faktin se koncesioni ishte dhurata e fundit qe na u la nga xhaxhi Tosi perpara se te ikte......

.........lum si neve!!! Informacioni 100% i sakte e i garantuar!!! :doh:

L1nk1g
September 22nd, 2011, 02:39 PM
^^Po flitet per nje strategji te sektorit ajror ne vitet ne zhvilim.
Shqiperia i ka 3-4 ne mos me shume aeroporte ekzistues por pervec te Tiranes dhe ndoshta te Kukesit askush nuk eshte ne gjendje te operoje pa investime (nqs e ke fjalen per Gjadrin dhe Kuēoven).
Dhe pak rendesi ka kush e beri kontraten,qeveria aktuale po te doje mund ta prishe,te paguaje dhe gjoben,te vere dhe aeroportet e tjera ne funksionim.
Puna eshte qe ato aeroporte per momentin si duhen njeriu,dhe ndoshta as pas 2020-es nuk do ti duhen njeriu.

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 03:10 PM
^^Po flitet per nje strategji te sektorit ajror ne vitet ne zhvilim.
Shqiperia i ka 3-4 ne mos me shume aeroporte ekzistues por pervec te Tiranes dhe ndoshta te Kukesit askush nuk eshte ne gjendje te operoje pa investime (nqs e ke fjalen per Gjadrin dhe Kuēoven).
Dhe pak rendesi ka kush e beri kontraten,qeveria aktuale po te doje mund ta prishe,te paguaje dhe gjoben,te vere dhe aeroportet e tjera ne funksionim.
Puna eshte qe ato aeroporte per momentin si duhen njeriu,dhe ndoshta as pas 2020-es nuk do ti duhen njeriu.

S'i duhen njeriu......aeroportet nuk te prishin pune!! E as nuk kane ndonje kosto kushedi se cfare ( krahasuar me rruget apo hekurudhat ). Por te prishesh kontraten ne menyre te njeanshme (ne nje kohe kur kompania nuk eshte thjesht "menaxhuese" por ka bere komplet investimin me plan shfrytezimi afatgjate ) duhet te jete shpenzim kolosal e i pa-justifikueshem nga perfitimi i aeroporteve te tjere!!
Prandaj po studjohen mundesi te tjera.
Une e kisha fjalen, qe mund mos te kete projekt per ndertimin e nje aeroporti ne Sarande, pasi Aeroporti i Gjirokastres eshte ne nje pozicion shume me strategjik kundrejt Boshtit te Jugut. Distanca me Saranden, me rrugen e sotshme eshte thjesht 50 km, e do te pergjysmohet me perfundimin e boshtit te jugut qe kalon nga Delvina.
Mbase mund te ishte zgjidhje me e mire per jugun se nje aeroport i ri ne Sarande.

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 06:24 PM
Fluturimet. Konkurrenca Hiqni ekskluzivitetin e Rinasit
06 Mars 2011

TIRANE- Dhenia e ekskluzivitetit te fluturimeve civile aeroportit te Rinasit pengon futjen e bizneseve qe jane te interesuara te investojne ne tregun e fluturimeve nderkombetare ne Shqiperi. Ky eshte vleresimi i Komisionit te Konkurrences ne lidhje me koncesionin e dhene nga qeveria Nano ndaj nje kompanie te huaj qe ka nen administrim aeroportin e Rinasit per nje periudhe 20 vjecare.

http://www.lajme.gen.al/photos/11/03/zedhenesja-e-ministrise-se-transporteve-armida-qylafku.jpg

Koncesioni u miratua ne tetor te vitit 2004 me kushtin qe ky aeroport te kishte ekskluzivitetin e fluturimeve nderkombetare ne Shqiperi. Nisur nga situata e krijuar ne nje kohe kur aeroporti i Kukesit nuk eshte futur ne perdorim edhe per kete shkak Ministria e Transporteve i eshte drejtuar Autoritetit te Konkurrences duke i ofruar edhe kontraten koncensionare per te marre nje mendim ligjor nese kjo marreveshje cenon apo jo konkurrencen ne treg.

Ne pefundim pas shqyrtimit te dokumentacionit Komisioni i Konkurrences kerkoi rishikimin e kontrates koncensionare me arsyetimin se ne formen se si ajo eshte hartuar pengon futjen e subjekteve te tjere ne tregun e fluturimeve ne Shqiperi. Dhenia e te drejtes ekskluzive per te operuar si aeroporti i vetem per fluturime nderkombetare ne Republiken e Shqiperise perben barriere ne treg duke pengura hyrjen e konkurrenteve te rinj ne te per transport paragjeresh apo mallrash - citohet ne pergjigjen qe i ka kthyer Komisioni i Konkurrences Ministrise se Puneve Publike dhe Transporteve.

Madje komisioni ka sugjeruar edhe nje zgjidhje e cila sipas tyre do te ishte kufizimi i territorit ekskluziv te ketij aeroporti ne nje rreze prej jo me shume se 100 km nga Rinasi. Sipas Komisionit kjo eshte edhe nje praktike qe ndiqet rendon edhe ne vendet e BE-se duke u percaktuar edhe ne direktivat e Komisionit Europian.

Aeroporti Nene Tereza ne Rinas iu dha me koncesion per nje periudhe 20 vjecare ne vitin 2004 nje kompanie te huaj. Sipas kontrates shteti shqiptar do te perfitonte rreth 109 milione euro nga kjo marreveshje nderkohe qe verifikimet e mepasshme te Kontrollit te Larte te Shtetit nxorren ne pah se nese do te administrohej nga vete shteti shqiptar te ardhurat nga aeroporti do te ishin rreth tre here me te medha. Nderkaq ekskluziviteti i fluturimeve qe ka Rinasi po mban peng futjen ne perdorim te aeroportit te Kukesit i cili ka perfunduar tashme dhe pervec avioneve te proves aty nuk eshte ulur asnje mjet tjeter fluturues. Ky aeroport eshte dhurate e qeverise se Emirateve te Bashkuara Arabe dhe ka kushtuar rreth 30 milione dollare.
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7t
September 22nd, 2011, 06:26 PM
Burimi i artikullit?

AlbanPOLIMI
September 22nd, 2011, 07:06 PM
Publikuar nga:

http://lajme.shqiperia.com/assets/mediaLogo/Gazeta-Shekulli.png:cheers:

L1nk1g
September 22nd, 2011, 10:01 PM
:cheers:

6 muaj mė parė.

Se kuptoj pse te interesojne kaq shume keto lajmet shekullore.

IlliricumSacrum
October 7th, 2011, 10:14 AM
Nuk e kuptoj kete deshiren e madhe per te pasur me shume aeroporte. Mendoj qe duhet te jete nje aeroport, por qe eshte gjithmone ne zhvillim e siper. Nuk me duket financiarisht e arsyeshme te kete me shume se nje. Mendoj se cdo politikan e di kete. Eshte e nevojshme te kemi nje infrastrukture me te lidhur dhe me te zgjeruar mes qyteteve.

Aeroporti i Kukesit do mbetet me shume nje qender helikopteresh per rastet e emergjencave si rrjedhoje e motit ne rajonin veri-lindor me shume sesa nje aeroport tregtar i llojit te TIA.

Aeroporti i Sarandes eshte... i lezecem... por po aq i panevojshem dhe pa perspektive financiare. Sa linja ajrore do fluturonin per ne Sarande? Eshte mundesia qe te jete ne kunkurence te drejtperdrejte me aeroportin ne Korfuz, por ne ate rast vizitoret qe kryesisht jane turiste sezonal do duhej te zgjidhnin Saranden ne vend te Korfuzit dhe per kete para se te flitet per nje aeroport duhet te ndodhin zhvillime te tjera ne fushen e turizmit. A ka sot nje nevoje dhe nje mundesi te mire biznesi per te pasur nje aeroport ne Sarande i cili do kishte te ardhura te mjaftueshme dhe jo vetem te mbante veten per te perballuar shpenzimet operacionale por te fitonte dicka? Per mendimin tim jo.

Sigurisht te gjithe mund te deshirojme te kemi me shume aerporte se na jep nje ndjesi zhvillimi, por eshte e nevojshme qe autoritetet te sigurohen qe projektet e infrastruktures te sjellin te ardhura dhe jo te shndrrohen ne barra financiare te panevojshme. Projekte te tilla jane me shume te lidhura me fushatat politike se sa me drejtime strategjike me ndonje perfitim kombetar te mire percaktuar.

Gjithsesi ky eshte vetem mendimi im,

KingGenti
October 14th, 2011, 11:42 PM
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Tartanzan
October 18th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Nuk e kuptoj kete deshiren e madhe per te pasur me shume aeroporte. Mendoj qe duhet te jete nje aeroport, por qe eshte gjithmone ne zhvillim e siper. Nuk me duket financiarisht e arsyeshme te kete me shume se nje. Mendoj se cdo politikan e di kete. Eshte e nevojshme te kemi nje infrastrukture me te lidhur dhe me te zgjeruar mes qyteteve.

Aeroporti i Kukesit do mbetet me shume nje qender helikopteresh per rastet e emergjencave si rrjedhoje e motit ne rajonin veri-lindor me shume sesa nje aeroport tregtar i llojit te TIA.

Aeroporti i Sarandes eshte... i lezecem... por po aq i panevojshem dhe pa perspektive financiare. Sa linja ajrore do fluturonin per ne Sarande? Eshte mundesia qe te jete ne kunkurence te drejtperdrejte me aeroportin ne Korfuz, por ne ate rast vizitoret qe kryesisht jane turiste sezonal do duhej te zgjidhnin Saranden ne vend te Korfuzit dhe per kete para se te flitet per nje aeroport duhet te ndodhin zhvillime te tjera ne fushen e turizmit. A ka sot nje nevoje dhe nje mundesi te mire biznesi per te pasur nje aeroport ne Sarande i cili do kishte te ardhura te mjaftueshme dhe jo vetem te mbante veten per te perballuar shpenzimet operacionale por te fitonte dicka? Per mendimin tim jo.

Sigurisht te gjithe mund te deshirojme te kemi me shume aerporte se na jep nje ndjesi zhvillimi, por eshte e nevojshme qe autoritetet te sigurohen qe projektet e infrastruktures te sjellin te ardhura dhe jo te shndrrohen ne barra financiare te panevojshme. Projekte te tilla jane me shume te lidhura me fushatat politike se sa me drejtime strategjike me ndonje perfitim kombetar te mire percaktuar.

Gjithsesi ky eshte vetem mendimi im,

Nje aeroport i vogel sezonal ne Vlore ose Sarande nuk do ishte keq, qe do funksiononte vetem ne muajt e sezonit turistik per turistet. Ashtu sic e ka psh. Ohri. Pastaj besoj se pak konkurrence nuk do ishte keq per aeroportin e Rinasit, qe do sillte ulje te cmimeve.
Pyetja eshte, nese TIA do do ishte dakord me nje gje te tille, mqs. Tirana Airport Partners ka ekslusivitetin e fluturimeve.

daalbo
October 19th, 2011, 02:30 PM
Ne viziten e emirit te Katarit ne Shqiperi dje, u nenshkrua edhe nje marreveshje per sherbimin ajror. As ne faqen e kryeministrise dhe as ne lajmet e tjera ne internet nuk u tha se cfare permbante kjo marreveshje. Ka ndonjeri informacion me te detajuar?

Qatar Airways kete vitin e fundit ka filluar ose ka paralajmeruar per shume fluturime te reja ne Europe: Baku, Bukuresht, Budapest, Bruksel, Helsinki, Oslo, Sofia, Shtutgart, Tbilisi dhe Venecia, plus fluturimet per ne kontinentet e tjera. Planet per vitet e tjera jane per rritjen e destinacioneve dhe kushedi mos nisin ndonje fluturim edhe per ne Tirane, megjithese ka shume vende te tjera ne Europe si puna e Varshaves, Prages, Lisbones, Zagrebit etj.

daalbo
October 19th, 2011, 08:28 PM
Veren tjeter BA do ule numrin e fluturimeve per ne Tirane nga 7 ne jave, ne 5. Ulje te ngjashme do ndodhin edhe ne Prishtine. Kjo eshte hera e pare qe BA ul numrin e fluturimeve qe kur nisi fluturimet nga Tirana. Te shpresojme qe deri veren tjeter gjerat te ndryshojne.

IlliricumSacrum
December 4th, 2011, 12:48 AM
Nje aeroport i vogel sezonal ne Vlore ose Sarande nuk do ishte keq, qe do funksiononte vetem ne muajt e sezonit turistik per turistet. Ashtu sic e ka psh. Ohri. Pastaj besoj se pak konkurrence nuk do ishte keq per aeroportin e Rinasit, qe do sillte ulje te cmimeve.
Pyetja eshte, nese TIA do do ishte dakord me nje gje te tille, mqs. Tirana Airport Partners ka ekslusivitetin e fluturimeve.

TIA dakort eshte nese krijojne nje sistem "fee based" per fluturimet ne Sarande, nuk eshte totalisht kundra :-). TIA thote LAKU per cargo dhe LASR per turizem nese do qeveria, por ne ate rast TIA do ca lek per fluturimet qe do behen ne to. Shkurt TIA thote qe qeveria e tha nje llaf por harroi per LASR.

Sikurse thote dhe TIA, LAKU nuk ka ndonje vlere te madhe per aq kohe sa mbetet me ate konfigurim piste qe ka. Une mendoj qe nuk ja fut dhe aq kot kjo TIA sepse ne ate konfigurim qe ka LAKU vetem po e transportoi cargon me F16 ngrihet dhe ulet rehat :-). Gjithsesi nese ndonjehere do viheshe ne pune ky aeroporti Zajedi Biri Sulltanit, do ishte shume interesant per te apasionuarit mbas aviacionit dhe me siguri do behej popullor thjesht per veshtiresite qe te jep terreni rreth e rrotull.

Mr_Albalover
December 4th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Κοmpania Olympic Air do te kryej 2 fluturime ne jave nga Selaniku ne Tirane

Me sakte fluturimet do te kryhen cdo te Hene dhe te Premte me aeroplane te tipit Bombardier Q400 me nje kapacitet prej 78 vendesh.

Burimi : naftemporiki.gr

rene1234
December 29th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Aeroporti i Kukėsit, vetėm pėr fluturime tė brendshme !
Emirjon Senja

Aeroporti i Kukėsit do tė mund tė vihen nė punė pėrgjatė dy-tre viteve tė ardhshme, pesė vjet pėr pėrfundimit tė punimeve dhe marrjes sė certifikatės sė sigurisė. Ministria e Transporteve ka pėrfshirė nė prioritetet e saj shfrytėzimin e kėtij aeroporti brenda vitit 2014, por vetėm pėr fluturime tė brendshme. MPPT nuk e shpjegon se si do tė arrihet tė bėhet kjo nė njė territor tė vogėl si Shqipėria, por nė tabelat e saj tė buxhetit pėr vitet e ardhshme janė parashikuar jo pak por 48 milionė lekė nė total, tė cilat do tė shėrbejnė pėr mirėmbajtjen dhe vendosjen e tij nė punė. “Objektiv ėshtė kryerja e procedurave pėrkatėse pėr te plotėsuar standardet e ndėrtimit e standardet e operimit tė sigurt e tė parrezikshėm nė kėtė aeroport, me objektiv zhvillimin e transportit tė brendshėm ajror”, – pėrcaktohet nė listėn e investimeve tė Ministrisė sė Punėve Publike dhe Transporteve tė pasqyruara nė programin Buxhetor Afatmesėm 2012-2014.

Me kėtė qėllim, ekzekutivi ka shpenzuar edhe 20 milionė lekė gjatė kėtij viti si edhe parashikohet tė shpenzohen edhe 12 milionė lekė tė tjera deri nė fund tė vitit tė ardhshėm. Viti kur parashikohet edhe fillimi i shfrytėzimit tė aeroportit tė Kukėsit ėshtė ai 2013. Aeroporti kaloi nė vitin 2007 edhe testin e fluturimit duke marrė kėshtu edhe certifikatėn e sigurisė.

Megjithatė, duket se ky aeroport do tė vazhdojė tė mbetet peng i koncesionit tė dhėnė kompanisė gjermane nė vitin 2004 qė administron aktualisht aeroportin “Nenė Tereza”, e cila gėzon edhe ekskluzivitetin e fluturimeve civile nė Shqipėri pėr njė periudhė 20 vjeēare. Nė kėtė mėnyrė, u vendos edhe moslejimi i ngritjes sė avionėve nė ēdo aeroport tjetėr pėrveē se nga ai “Nenė Tereza”. Shfrytėzimi i tij pėr fluturime ndėrkombėtare do tė mund tė bėhej pas heqjes sė ekskluzitivetit pėr fluturimet civile kompanisė “Tirana Airport Partners”, gjė e cila ndodh vetėm me pėlqimin e kėsaj tė fundit. “Qeveria e Shqipėrisė garanton se gjatė afatit tė koncesionit nuk do tė licencohet, autorizohet dhe as operohet asnjė aeroport tjetėr pėr fluturime ndėrkombėtare tregtare (kargo dhe pasagjerė), nė Republikėn e Shqipėrisė, me pėrjashtim tė uljeve emergjente”, – pėrcaktohet nė kontratėn e lidhur asokohe midis qeverisė shqiptare dhe investitorit gjerman.

Sipas kontratės, shteti shqiptar do tė pėrfitonte rreth 109 milionė euro nga kjo marrėveshje ndėrkohė qė verifikimet e mėpasshme tė Kontrollit tė Lartė tė Shtetit nxorėn nė pah se nėse do tė administrohej nga vetė shteti shqiptar, tė ardhurat nga aeroporti do tė ishin rreth tre herė mė tė mėdha.



Heqja e ekskluzivitetit

Deri mė tani, ka pasur disa nisma nga qeveria pėr t’i hequr ekskluzivitetin e fluturimeve civile “Rinasit”, por ato kanė qenė tė pasuksesshme. Nė fillim tė kėtij viti u zhvilluan negociata ne rang tė lartė drejtuesish midis pėrfaqėsuesve tė qeverisė dhe kompanisė gjermane gjatė tė cilave u pėrfol pėr njė marrėveshje nė kėtė drejtim, por kanė kaluar mė shumė se 11 muaj dhe gjendja mbetet pėrsėri e njėjtė.

Njė vit e gjysmė mė parė, ministria e Transporteve iu drejtua Autoritetit tė Konkurrencės duke i kėrkuar shqyrtimin e kontratės koncesionare pėr aeroportin “Nenė Tereza” si dhe verifikimin nėse kemi tė bėjmė me njė shkelje tė konkurrencės nė kėtė rast. Nė pėrgjigjen e saj, autoriteti kėrkoi rishikimin e kontratės koncensionare me arsyetimin se nė formėn se si ajo ėshtė hartuar pengon futjen e subjekteve tė tjerė nė tregun e fluturimeve nė Shqipėri. Madje, autoriteti sugjeroi edhe njė zgjidhje, e cila sipas tyre do tė ishte kufizimi i territorit ekskluziv tė kėtij aeroporti nė njė rreze prej jo mė shumė se 100 km nga Rinasi. Sipas Komisionit, kjo ėshtė edhe njė praktikė qė ndiqet rėndom edhe nė vendet e BE-sė duke u pėrcaktuar edhe nė direktivat e Komisionit Europian.

Aktualisht pėr “Kukėsin” ekzistojnė dy alternativa qė mundėsojnė vendosjen e tij nė punė. E para ka tė bėjė me vėnien tij ne dispozicion tė kompanisė koncesionare qė ka nėn administrimin edhe aeroportin “Nenė Tereza” nė Tiranė, pėr t’a pėrdorur atė me shume pėr fluturime tranzit, opsioni i dytė ėshtė pėrdorimi i tij pėr transport mallrash, gjė pėr tė cilėn nuk dihet se sa do t’ia vlejė, pasi do tė duhej njė volum i madh shkėmbimesh pėr tė nxjerrė me fitim njė sipėrmarrje tė tillė, plus qė pėrsėri do tė duhej leja e gjermanėve.





Tė dhėna teknike

Aeroporti i Kukėsit ėshtė i kategorisė “C”, me gjatėsi tė pistės rreth 1 900 metėr, gjerėsi 70 metėr dhe ka njė kapacitet pėr 100 mijė pasagjerė nė vit. Aeroporti pėrbėhet nga terminali i pasagjerėve, pista, brezi anėsor, rrugėt lidhėse, vendqėndrimi i avionėve, sistemi i ndriēimit, rrethimi i aeroportit, me njė gjatėsi afėrsisht 5 000 metra, si dhe vendparkimi i mjeteve private. Aeroporti ėshtė njė dhuratė e Emirateve tė Bashkuara Arabe dhe kushtoi rreth 30 milionė dollarė. Aktualisht ėshtė nė gjendje pune.

http://www.shekulli.com.al/shekulli/2011/12/21/aeroporti-i-kukesit-vetem-per-fluturime-te-brendshme/

omnipotent
December 29th, 2011, 08:04 PM
^^


Nese qellimi eshte qe ky aeroport te behet funksional, pse te kufizohet vetem per fluturime te brendshme?:ohno:
Ky aeroport mund te sherbeje edhe per nevoja te brendshme (psh Kukes-Gjirokaster), por edhe per Kargo e pse jo per promovim te turizmit malor ne ate rajon, duke dhene bileta super te lira qe te terheqin turiste te huaj!

Ktu besoj mungon vullneti e mendja e shendoshe, se aeroporte te permasave te tilla, funksionojne per bukuri ne Fyrom (Ohri) dhe ne Mize (Tivati).
Shpresoj qe infrastruktura e ketij aeroporti te mos degradohet pa perfituar qytetaret!

albania2010
December 29th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Nje aeroport i vogel sezonal ne Vlore ose Sarande nuk do ishte keq, qe do funksiononte vetem ne muajt e sezonit turistik per turistet. Ashtu sic e ka psh. Ohri. Pastaj besoj se pak konkurrence nuk do ishte keq per aeroportin e Rinasit, qe do sillte ulje te cmimeve.
Pyetja eshte, nese TIA do do ishte dakord me nje gje te tille, mqs. Tirana Airport Partners ka ekslusivitetin e fluturimeve.


Pershendetje..
Jam dakord me parafolesin Ilirium..

Aeroportet ne Sarande dhe Vlore do rezultojne para te harxhuara kot se koti..

Ohri ka aeroport te vogel sepse NUK ka dalje ne det, dhe Shkupi eshte 180 km larg, dhe do apo nuk do shume vete shkojne me Avion ne Oher, sepse perveē liqenit te Ohrit nuk ke se ēfare gjeje tjeter te shohesh, nderkohe qe Manastiri dhe Shen Naumi jane afer dhe mund te shkohet me taksi, keshtu qe eshte e kote te udhetosh me makine nga Europa ne Oher..

Ndersa persa i perket Vlores dhe Sarandes portet qe i kane ne qytet e reduktojne jashtezakonisht punen e fluturimit...
Edhe turistet e huaj qe do vijne nuk do mjaftohen vetem me Vloren, por do duan te shohin Llogarane, Saranden, Gjirokastren, Permetin, ndaj eshte me e leverdishme per ta me ardhur ne Vlore me makine, nga Brindizi ne Vlore me traget, dhe vitizojne ēdo vend ku duan ata...

Pastaj mos harro, qe rruga Levan-Vlore thuajse ka mbaruar.. Per 1 vit e pak mbaron dhe By Passi i Fierit dhe nga Rinasi ne Vlore do pershkohet ne 1 ore e pak....
Gjithashtu me mbarimin e segmentit Levan-Tepelene dhe Kardhiq-Delvine, Saranda do jete shume afer Tiranes, vetem 2 ore e pak dhe gjithashtu do e beje aeroportin e Sarandes jo shuem funksional..
Mos harro qe edhe Janina edhe Korfuzi kane aeroporte te liēensuara dhe zor se Aeroporti i Sarandes do i mbijetonte Aeroporteve te Janines, Korfuzit dhe Rinasit qe pas 2 vjetesh me mbarimin e Boshtit te Jugut do jete akoma dhe me afer me Saranden..

Investimet pa tru perfundojne shume keq..

Po te jap nje shembull te mire..
Ata qe ndertuan CITY PARK u treguan shuem idiote, sepse e filluan ndertimin e saj akoma pa perfunduar mire projektet rrugore..

Qe City Park te ishte jetegjate duhej te shiheshin projektet e rruges se re te Aeroportit, dhe duhej ndertuar aty ku sot ndodhet MEGATEK...

City Park qe investim goxha kolosal, e kam pare me kujdes, pllakat e mermerta sikur te jete Hotel me 5 yje i tipit Sheraton... Eshte bere gjithe ai investim lluksi, dhe u be ne toke te ''GABUAR'' sepse pozicioni i tij ndodhet matane ktheses se Aeroportit...

Dhe perpos kesaj hapja e TEG-ut tani do e falimentoje fare ne te ardhmen, sepse TEG-u eshte ndertuar ne pozicion strategjik...

Mbi te gjitha TEG-u nuk ka bere punime lluksi kot me kot, me pllaka te mermerta qe nuk i hyjne ne pune kerkujt.
Ka vene pllaka te thjeshta qe kane kosto shume te ulet, por konstrukti eshte i gjithe Ēelik dhe Xham, dmth qe neser pasneser ata po te duan e zberthejne dhe e montojne diku tjeter TEG-un, ndersa City Park nuk mund te ēmontohet se i bie te prishet i gjithe mermeri qe eshte shtruar poshte dhe e gjithe ndertesa qe gjithashtu nuk ē'behet dot..
Me ato para qe u ndertua City Park kushedi se ēfare gjeje tjeter me e rendesishme mund te ishte ndertuar...

Ndaj dhe kudjes me krahasime... Aeroporti i Ohrit eshte ndertuar qe ne kohen e Titos, sikurse dhe ai i Kotorrit ne Mal te Zi, kur nuk kishte Porte te medha, kur nuk kishte pasanike qe perdornin Jahte private, kur nuk kishte autostrada qe njerezit te leviznin lirshem..
Prandaj uroj mos t'u marre koka ere investitoreve dhe te ndertojne kos se koti aeroporte te reja ne Sarande apo Vlore sepse koha do t'i falimentoje 100%, me ndertimin e Boshtit te Jugut Tirana dhe Saranda do jene shume me afer, nderkohe qe edhe porti i Igumenices, Porti i Sarandes, Aeroportet e Janines dhe Korfuzit nuk do i lene asnje shanc Aeroportit te Sarandes te mbijetoje..

Megjithese deshira ime dhe e jotja eshte qe ta kemi nje Aeroport pyetja behet a ja vlen vendi ku do ndertohet??? A ja vlen kosto e tij??? A ja vlen njerezit te marrin Aeroplan per Sarande dhe jo makine nga Tirana qe do e beje ne gati 2 ore e gjysem ne te ardhmen??
E pra keto detaje na japin te kuptojme qe nuk ja vlen..

Do isha dakord qe te investohej qofte edhe pak per aerodromin e Gjirokastres, meqenese pista eshte gati, nuk ka nevoje per shpronesime dhe te kthehet ne nje piste per Heilikopteret...
Keshtu siē po avancon jeta nuk eshte ēudi qe pas 10 vjetesh Heilikopteri mos te quhet me enderr e ndaluar dhe te pakten te pasurit ta kene nje te tille..
Ashtu sikurse para 20 vjetesh ne na dukej enderr te kishim nje makine kur sot e kemi ashtu edhe pas 10-20 vjetesh nuk do jete ēudi qe heilikopteret te fillojne te shiten si makina, ndaj per kete gje jam dakord, qe te investohet ne pista ndertimi por jo per terminale aeroportesh qe pas disa vitesh mund te rezultojne ''BLLOF''..

Shume aeroporte ne ishujt Greke po mbyllen tashme, jo vetem prej krizes por edhe sepse shume Greke shkojne me Skafe tashme ne keto ishuj, kur para 2 dekadash e kishin enderr posedimin e nje skafi tashme per shuem Greke pronesia e nje Skafi apo Jahti eshte diēka mese normale....

Keto qe thashe nuk i shpika une.. Nje pjese te fakteve i kam jetuar, ndersa te tjerat i kane jetuar miqte e mi dhe rezultojne plotesisht te verteta...

rene1234
December 29th, 2011, 09:25 PM
^^
Dakord me ty, po per Kukesin nuk fole, c'mund te behet per te?

albania2010
December 29th, 2011, 10:18 PM
^^
Dakord me ty, po per Kukesin nuk fole, c'mund te behet per te?


Aeroporti i Kuksit gjithashtu rezultoi investim ''GJYSEM-BLLOF'' do thoja, sepse Arabet qe dhane parate kujtuan se Rruga e Kombit do ndertohej pas 20-30 vjetesh, dhe nuk ua preu mendja per kontraten qe beri Qeveria Nano me Gjermanet e Rinasit per Ekskluzivitetin 20 vjeēar nderkombetar te Rinasit..

Ndaj edhe ketu ata bene gafe me gjithe keto para te hedhura kot..

Gjithsesi, nuk duhet harruar qe dimrat ne zonen Verilindore jane shume te ashper. Po kujtoj dimrin e 2005, 24 janar-5 mars 2005, ku per 6 jave beri dimer shume i eger dhe u izolua gjithe pjesa Verilindore e Shqiperise..

Prandaj Aeroporti ka vlera, ne situata emergjente gjate dimrit kur nevojitet transporti me Heilikoptere, aeroporti i Kuksit eshte goxha spacioz per te perballuar situata emergjence....

Diēka tjeter qe mund te behet eshte gjate veres, mund te zhvillohet ndonje tip kampionati garash me makina dhe motorra, ku mund te marrin pjese pilote nga Tirana, Prishtina, Prizreni, Shkupi etj... Do ishte shume bukur nqs behej diēka e tille..

Pra perveē situatave emergjente te dimrit nuk e shoh funksional Aeroportin e Kuksit..
Vetem 140 kilometra larg portit te Durrsit NUK besoj se do kishte kompani idiote private qe te sillte mallra ne kukes nga ajri, me nje kosot SHUME te larte, nderkohe qe nga Porti i Durrsit me Anije mund te sjellin shume me teper, dhe shume me lire mallra...
Aeroportet vlejne dhe kane perspektive gati te perjetshme kur jane LARG detit, LARG porteve....

Mos u ēudit qe me futjen e Kroacise ne EU dhe ne Shengen mbi te gjitha Aeroportet e Splitit dhe Dubrovnikut te ulin ndjeshem fluturimet, sepse me mbarimin e Autostrades SPLIT-DUBROVNIK atehere Francezeve, Austriakeve, Gjermaneve do u bjere te nisen ne mengjes nga Europa Qendrore dhe ne mbremje te ndodhen ne Split apo Dubrovnik, kur mos te ekzistoje kufi ndermjet Kroacise dhe Sllovenise, dhe Autostrada te jete e perfunduar deri ne Dubrovnik..

Por edhe nje here, e shpjegoj qe keto 2 aeroporte nuk i ndertoi Kroacia tani pas viteve 2000 por ishin te ndertuara qe ne kohen e Titos, ndryshe as qe do merrte mundimin ndonje kompani te investonte diēka qe nuk do sillte shume fitime...

daalbo
December 29th, 2011, 11:04 PM
^^ Ne pergjithesi mund te kesh te drejte per ate qe thua por kur fillon dhe kalon ne detaje ben lloj lloj gafash qe me ben te mendoj qe edhe ato qe i ke te sakta i ke ne menyre rasti. TEG mund te cmontohet dhe te montohet diku tjeter? :nuts: Aeroportet e Dubrovnikut dhe Splitit do shohin ulje pasagjeresh kur te behet autostrada se ai nga Anglia dhe Gjermania do beje nje dite ore rruge me makine kur te shkoje me pushime? :nuts: Turistet qe do vijne ne Sarande dhe Vlore do vijne me makina mbasi te bejne nje nate me traget nga Italia? :nuts: Cudi se po te ishte e vertete kjo s'do kishte asnje aeroport afer zonave bregdetare.

albania2010
December 30th, 2011, 06:40 PM
^^ Ne pergjithesi mund te kesh te drejte per ate qe thua por kur fillon dhe kalon ne detaje ben lloj lloj gafash qe me ben te mendoj qe edhe ato qe i ke te sakta i ke ne menyre rasti. TEG mund te cmontohet dhe te montohet diku tjeter? :nuts: Aeroportet e Dubrovnikut dhe Splitit do shohin ulje pasagjeresh kur te behet autostrada se ai nga Anglia dhe Gjermania do beje nje dite ore rruge me makine kur te shkoje me pushime? :nuts: Turistet qe do vijne ne Sarande dhe Vlore do vijne me makina mbasi te bejne nje nate me traget nga Italia? :nuts: Cudi se po te ishte e vertete kjo s'do kishte asnje aeroport afer zonave bregdetare.

TEG-u ēmontohet... Nuk e di a do ja vleje barra qirane me bere diēka te tille pas 20-30 vjetesh.. A ka kosto te larte apo jo koha do e tregoje por teknikisht ajo godine ēmontohet.. Kam fjalen per xhamat dhe ēelikun.. eshte i njejti konstrukt sikurse Terminali i Aeroportit, i cili gjithashtu eshte i ēmontueshem...
Kur them ēmontim nuk kam parasysh muret apo pllakat por konstruktin e nderteses...
Dukesh qe nuk kupton fare nga ana Arkitekturore...

Sigurisht qe Aeroportet e Dubrovnikut dhe Splitit do shohin ulje fluturimesh sepse Gjermanet, Zvicerianet, Austriaket, Ēeket, Polaket do e kene me te shpejte dhe me me pak kosto shkuarjen atje me makina gjate veres per pushime, sesa me marre avion ku seicili pjesetar i familjes ka kosto individuale per bileten e udhetimit (ndryshe nga makina ku kosto eshte e njete si per 2 si per 4 veta) dhe gjithashtu perveē biletes se avionit me paguar edhe makine me qera per 1 apo 2 jave...

Sigurisht Skandinavet, Anglezet duke qene larg edhe mund te perdorin rrugen ajrore por vendet e Europes qendrore qe jane dhe me afer dhe kane shume me teper popullsi sesa Skandinavia sigurisht qe do e kene me te shpejte, me ekonomike dhe me te leverdishme shkuarjen me makine..

Une po shoh gjithnje e me teper ēdo vere ne Shqiperi qe vijne Rulote nga Anglia, Franca, Gjermania, Polonia, shuem here i shoh dhe me femije brenda, dmth gjithe familja qe udheton me Makina Rulo, kur deri para 10-20 vjetesh idhte diēka e panjohur tani sa po vijne e me shume veta po preferojne udhetime te tilla....

Ketu nuk po them qe jane idiote ato kompani ajrore qe operojne me Splitin dhe Dubrovnikun.. Perderisa ato aeroporte i ndertoi Jugosllavia e Titos sigurisht qe nuk kane se ēfare te humbasin... Por me mbarimin e Autostrades ne gjithe vijen bregdetare Kroate dhe me futjen e saj ne Shengen duke hequr kontrollin me Sllovenine do thjeshtohet me teper shkuarja atje me makine per Europiano-Qendroret...

Shih pak Rrugen e Kombit. Sapo u hap menjehere linja Tirane-Prishtine-Tirane u mbyll se nuk ka me leverdi, sado ēmim te ulet qe kishte fluturimi me BElleair diku 60-70 Euro perseri nuk ja vlente me marre avion dhe u mbyll...

Nqs Aeroporti i Sarandes do ishte gati i ndertuar, i shpronesuar, me terminal te ndertuar ne kohen e xhaxhit me pune vullnetare sigurisht qe do isha dakort per shfrytezimin e tij, sado pak.. Por kur behet fjale me e ndertuar diēka te tille nga hiēi, kur nuk ka as projekt gati, as Shpronesime dhe as fonde per diēka te tille, kur ky aerport te kete perfunduar pas 7-8 vjetesh koha do e nxjerre jashte loje, siē nxorri Aeroportin e Kuksit... Te jesh i sigurt...

Ndaj uroj biznesmenet shqiptare mos te bejne gafe siē bene me City Park dhe para se te derdhin parate te shohin projektet e rrugeve, Porteve dhe Hekurudhave, qe mos te shkojne dem para qe mund te perdoren per projekte shume here me te mira...

daalbo
December 31st, 2011, 04:39 AM
Mjaft tani se po le kokrren e namit.

As TEGu dhe as terminali i aeroportit nuk cmonotohen dhe vihen diku tjeter. Se mund te perdoret nje ashensor apo nje shine hekuri diku tjeter, s'do te thote qe keto jane ndertuar me lego qe mund te hiqen nga nje vend dhe te vihen ne vend tjeter. Jo po mbaj 30 vitesh do behet kjo gje? Ti si ekspert arkitekture qe je, me trego pak nje rast te ngjashem.

Tani per punen e aeroporteve, aeroportet e bregdetit te Kroacise, edhe po te mos ishin ndertuar ne kohen e Titos, do ishin ndertuar sot se Kroacia shumicen e turisteve e thith nepermjet atyre aeroporteve. Se vijne ca turiste me makina s'do te thote qe shumica s'vijne nepermjet aeroporteve. Nqs te gjithe gjermanet dhe hollandezet do e kishin me te kollajshme te vinin me makina per ne plazh, atehere si e shpjegon trafikun ne rritje drejt aeroporteve bregdetare ne Itali, Spanje, France etj. Keto vende i kane rruget e rregulluara, por per cudi njerezit vazhdojen dhe fluturojne atje. Ata qe perdorin RV/caravan jane nje pjese shume e vogel, dhe gjithmone do perdorin RV/caravan per pushimet si me rruge te mira ashtu edhe me te keqija. Aeroportet e Kroacise do njohin ulje udhetaresh nqs plazhet kroate prishen dhe s'i pelqejne me turisteve, ose ndonje ulje perkohshme per shkak te ndonje krize ekonomike. Por jo se do behet autostrade e re qe do e beje me e lehte per sllovenet te shkojne ne brigjet kroate, sepse edhe sot s'ka fare ose ka shume pak sllovene qe fluturojne per ne brigjet kroate. Shembulli i Tirane-Prishtine eshte si te krahasosh portokalle me molle. Numri i udhetareve Prishtine-Tirane ka qene gjithmone i vogel. Me hapjen e autostrades, kerkesa per fluturime ra edhe me shume sepse tani rruga gati e sfidon aeroplanin ne kohe, sidomos mbas perfundimit te pjeses kosovare. Dhe kosovaret qe shkojne ne plazh ne Shqiperi s'e kane fare te pershtatshme qe te fluturojne ne Tirane dhe pastaj te marrin autobuzin ose taksine per ne bregdet. Prandaj eshte e kote te krahasosh Tirane-Prishtine me Duseldorf-Dubrovnik p.sh. sepse cfare do qe te behet, Duseldorf-Dubrovnik s'do jete ndonjehere dy ore sa c'behet me avion. Sot behet per 18 ore pa pushim. Me autostraden e re po te bej qejfin dhe po te them qe do behet per 14 ore pa pushim. Shume pak veta do marrin makinen per te bere kete rruge.

Prandaj mos u hiq sikur merr vesh dhe mos flit budalliqe ketu.

Ermir
December 31st, 2011, 04:59 AM
Ata qe perdorin camper roulotte nuk para shpenzojne ne vendet qe shkojne + qe e kane zakon te mblidhen se bashku keshtu qe kerkojne hapesira te medha.

Ermir
December 31st, 2011, 03:26 PM
Tirana Airport Plans New Terminal

“Planning for the expansion will begin in 2012 and will be completed in the following year,” the airport announced in a statement on Thursday, noting that the new terminal is expected to cost seven million euros.

The new expansion phase of Albania’s only international airport follows the steady growth in passenger numbers in over the past year.

“2011 was a generous year for the airport, with a growth of 18 per cent with 1.8 million passengers,” said Mother Theresa Airport’s Director of Operations Rolf Castro Vasquez.

Currently, 13 airlines fly in and out of Tirana, connecting the Albanian capital directly with 30 destinations.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/tirana-airport-plans-new-terminal-in-2012

ardinel
December 31st, 2011, 05:24 PM
Tirana Airport Plans New Terminal



http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/tirana-airport-plans-new-terminal-in-2012
E cfare do bejne keta me 7 milion euro une se marr vesh,mendoja se do e zgjeronin shume me teper,shifni aeroportin e maqedonise me nje trafik me te vogel se tonin dhe ka aeroport madheshtor,,,,
Di dikush cfare do bejne ne kete faze?

daalbo
December 31st, 2011, 06:28 PM
Edhe mua 7 milione euro me duken shume pak per nje terminal te ri, por duke lexuar njoftimin origjinal te TIA-s duket sikur 7 milionshi nuk eshte per terminal te ri, por thjesht per zgjerimin e zones se mberritjeve dhe "rregullimin" e portave te nisjeve. S'e kam idene tamam se cfare kane ne mendje tamam te bejne.
Planning for Phase C, another large project at the Airport, will start in 2012 and, in the following year, TIA will begin the construction of an upgrated and extended terminal.The new project that will cost more than seven million Euros will be focused on the Arrivals Area and the Departure Gates, aiming to meet the passengers’ satisfactions and comfort.
Nga kjo ketu s'merret vesh tamam se kur do filloje ndertimi. Thuhet qe do faza C do filloje ne 2012, kurse ndertimi do filloje vitin ne vazhdim. Nese ndertimi do filloje ne 2013, cfare dreqin do bejne gjithe 2012, meqe planin e paskan bere qe tani.


Disa te dhena te tjera nga artikulli:
Rritje 18% per numrin e udhetareve per 2011, mbi 1.8 milione pasagjere.
TIA po mundohet te nisi fluturime per ne France, Hollande dhe Skandinavi. Nuk e di se sa kerkesa ka per keto vende, sidomos kur marrim parasysh faktin qe edhe fluturimi dy here ne jave i Belle Air per ne Paris po mbyllet tani mbas festave. Ndoshta jane ne tratativa me ndonje shoqeri ajrore tip charter qe mund te sjelle turiste gjate veres.

http://www.tirana-airport.com/?p=1,En,5,2,,,,,,1,97

Ermir
December 31st, 2011, 06:36 PM
Di dikush cfare do bejne ne kete faze?

Nga ta dine njerezit kur lajmi sapo ka dale? Une postova keta nga Balkaninsight se ate tek websiti i aeroportit nuk arrij ta kopjoj dot.

wly456
January 1st, 2012, 04:57 AM
I am very excited we're getting direct flights with Brussels now.
http://www.tara-mediumss.com/zhangwei1.jpg

Tartanzan
January 2nd, 2012, 11:58 AM
Edhe mua 7 milione euro me duken shume pak per nje terminal te ri, por duke lexuar njoftimin origjinal te TIA-s duket sikur 7 milionshi nuk eshte per terminal te ri, por thjesht per zgjerimin e zones se mberritjeve dhe "rregullimin" e portave te nisjeve. S'e kam idene tamam se cfare kane ne mendje tamam te bejne.

Mbase 7 milione Euro do jete investim nga xhepi i TIA-s, kurse shumen tjeter mund ta marrin ne forme kredi nga EBRD, sic e kane bere me pare...

AlbanPOLIMI
February 14th, 2012, 07:39 PM
E Hėnė, 13 Shkurt 2012 14:45

“Belle Air” mund tė hetohet pėr abuzim me pozitėn dominuese.

Autoriteti i Konkurrencės do tė hetojė pėr ekzistencėn e monopolit nė tregun e fluturimeve ajrore nė Shqipėri, ku aktualisht vepron vetėm kompania “Belle Air”. Burime nga ky institucion bėjnė tė ditur pėr RTV SCAN se, njė dosje e veēantė ėshtė hapur pėr tė shqyrtuar gjendjen qė ekziston nė transportin ajror, pas ankesave tė mbėrritura lidhur me favorizimin e kompanisė “Belle Air”.

http://www.scan-tv.com/images/stories/image_web/Belle-Air-F.jpg

Prej nėntorit tė vitit tė kaluar, “Belle Air” ėshtė e vetmja kompani e licencuar nė Shqipėri qė ofron shėrbimet e transportit dhe kjo situatė nuk ka kaluar pa u vėnė re nga Autoriteti i Konkurrencės, pasi aktualisht konkurrenca nė kėtė treg mungon plotėsisht.

Ėshtė hera e dytė qė kjo kompani bėhet objekt akuzash tė tilla. “Belle Air” nisi aktivitetin nė vitin 2005 dhe, menjėherė pas hyrjes sė saj nė treg, Ministria e Transporteve bllokoi kompaninė konkurrente “Albatros Airėays”. Kjo i mundėsoi “Belle Air” njė zgjerim tė shpejtė nė treg. Sipas tė dhėnave tė Aeroportit Ndėrkombėtar tė Rinasit, deri nė fund tė 9-mujorit 2011 “Belle Air” zinte 46% tė tregut tė fluturimeve, sipas numrit tė udhėtarėve. Pas pezullimit tė aktivitetetit tė “Albanian Airlines”, besohet se pjesa e tregut tė Belle Air tė jetė rritur akoma mė shumė.

Me daljen nga loja tė “Albanian Airlines”, “Belle Air”, nė destinacione tė veēanta, sidomos drejt Italisė, ėshtė tashmė njė monopol. Pėrqėndrimi nė rritje i tregut tė fluturimeve ka bėrė qė Autoriteti i Konkurrencės shqyrtojė mundėsinė e hapjes sė njė hetimi. Vendimi pritet tė merret brenda kėsaj jave. Nėse hapet njė hetim, ai duhet tė pėrcaktojė pozitėn e mundshme dominuese apo monopoliste tė Belle Air dhe, ē’ėshtė me rėndėsishmja, nėse Belle Air po abuzon me kėtė pozitė dominuese nė tregun e fluturimeve.

Gazetar: Ersuin Shehuhttp://www.scan-tv.com/images/stories/radio.jpg

daalbo
February 14th, 2012, 10:10 PM
Belle Air nuk po abuzon me cmimet sepse ka te drejte t'i vendosi cmimet si te doje sepse per te fituar leke eshte. Dhe ketu s'ka ndonje abuzim me cmimet. Por dihet qe Belle Air i ka krahet e mbrojtura nga shteti, dhe Albatros dhe Star u eliminuan nga konkurrenca ne menyre te dyshimte. Keshtu cfare mund te pritet ndaj ketij hetimi kur qeveria eshte e komplikuar vete.

AlbanPOLIMI
February 14th, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nuk mund te thuash nese po abuzohet ose jo me ēmimet per aq kohe sa per transportin ajror nuk ka nje ēmim referimi. Eshte tregu dhe konkurenca e lire qe vendos ēmimet (ne baze te disa faktoreve te tjere si taksat aeroportuale etj, etj, ne kte rast), e nderkohe qe flasim konkurenca eshte ne pikepyetje.

Gjithsesi, artikulli eshte shkruar sa per te mbushur nje faqe e per te kaluar rradhen, pasi nuk llogaritet konkurenca vetem mes kompanish te regjistruara ne vend. Destinacionet e Belleair ofrohen nga Alitalia, AirOne, Swiss Air, Austrian Airlines etj, etj, keshtu qe tregu ka gjithsesi nje fare bilancimi.

Por jam dakort qe AK eshte nje vegel mediokre e shtetit, qe ne nje epoke ku monopolet krijohen ne qindra menyra ne kufij te legalitetit, nga jv tek blerja e paketes se maxhorances tek te tretet...........

rene1234
February 19th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Borxhi 1.6 mln euro, sekuestrohen 4 avionė tė “Albanian Airlines”



TIRANĖ- Llogaritė bankare tė kompanisė ajrore “Albania Airlines” janė bllokuar nga gjykata e Tiranės, pasi rezulton se Ali Evsen u ka tė paktėn 1.6 milionė euro borxhe dy kompanive holandeze dhe shoqėrisė “Tirana International Airport” sh.p.k (TIA).

“Gazeta Shqiptare” disponon dy vendime, tė firmosura pėrkatėsisht nga gjykatėsja Elona Stavri dhe Blerina Muēa, qė kanė vėnė sekuestron mbi llogaritė bankare dhe katėr avionėve tė kompanisė sė Evsen, i cili vetėm pak ditė mė parė u shfaq nė njė takim me kryeministrin Sali Berisha, kur ky i fundit gjendej pėr njė vizitė nė Azerbajxhan.
(Shkrimi i plotė dhe fakte interesante sot nė gazeta Shqiptare)
(el.me/BalkanWeb)
http://www.balkanweb.com/kryesore/1/borxhi-1-6-mln-euro-sekuestrohen-4-avione-te-albanian-airlines-81950.html

Tartanzan
April 27th, 2012, 08:12 PM
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libofsharaku
May 9th, 2012, 01:00 AM
lexova nje artikull te michael o'leary qe flet per kanosje te rrezikut ne avicion per shkak te tkurrjes dhe thoshte qe industria e aviacionet po vjen drejt konsolidimit qe konkretisht do te thot me pak konkurence, sherbime me pak cilesore dhe cmime me te larta, numrat e pasagjereve po vazhdojne te bien ndjeshem, cmimet e karburanteve po vijne e po ngrihen dhe aviacioni tashme eshte kthyer ne nje industri qe eshte duke dhene shpirt,

daalbo
May 9th, 2012, 01:52 AM
Une s'e di cilin artikull ke lexuar, por 90% e atyre qe thote ai jane fjale boshe. Gjithsesi tregu ajror po konsolidohet. Psh Lufthansa kontrollon Austrian, Swiss, Brussels Airlines dhe Air Dolomiti ne Itali. British Airways ka Iberian plus qe sapo bleu BMI nga Lufthansa. Air France u bashkua me KLM hollandeze dhe ka nje fare perqindje edhe tek Alitalia. Ndersa shoqerite e vogla po falimentojne. Malevi dhe Spanair falimentuan kete vit. Adria eshte me nje kembe ne varr, sic eshte edhe CSA ceke, plus shoqeri te tjera si puna e SAS. Por ajo qe s'thote O'Leary eshte se cmimet ne pergjithesi jane liruar fale shoqerive low-cost si puna e kompanise se tij Ryanair apo Wizzair. Por kjo ka ardhur ne kurriz te kompanive si puna e Malev. Biles edhe Lufthansa, qe mbahet si shoqeria me e mire menaxhuar ne Europe, ka thene qe fluturimet brenda Europes dalin me humbje. Tregu po konsolidohet midis 3 kompanive te medha europiane te udhehequr nga British Airways, Air France dhe Lufthansa dhe kompanive low cost Ryanair, Easyjet, Norwegian, Wizzair, etj. Tregjet e medha s'do e kene problem sepse do kete gjithmone fluturime per ne ato destinacione nga kompani te ndryshme. Vendet qe do e vuajne me shume kete gje do jene aeroportet si puna e Rinasit. Per te shkuar ne Gdansk ne Poloni psh (thjesht mora nje shembull kot) alternativat do jene te pakta dhe cmimet e larta sepse Ryanair apo Easyjet s'do nisin ndonjehere nje fluturim te tille.

Tartanzan
May 10th, 2012, 03:40 PM
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PS: Ky Scan RTV me pelqen shume si TV, sepse duket si i pavarur dhe nuk luan rolin anti- apo pro-qeveri, por raporton lajme deri diku ne menyre te pavarur.

daalbo
May 13th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Cmimet e Belle Air s'kane problem fare. Belle Air eshte kompani private dhe qellimi eshte rritja e fitimit, jo ulja e cmimeve ne Rinas.
Sa per korrektesine e fluturimeve kjo eshte gje tjeter. Dhe ketu duhet te nderhyje shteti. Vonesat mbi 2 ore (ne mos gaboj) per faj te kompanise ne BE gjobiten nga autoritetet dhe kompania duhet te shperbleje udhetaret. S'e di tamam aplikimin e kesaj rregulloreje, por kisha mendimin qe kjo gje duhej te aplikohej mbi te gjitha fluturimet qe kishin si destinacion apo origjine aeroportet e BE-se, qe i bie qe te kapin edhe Belle Air.

AltinD
May 20th, 2012, 12:55 PM
Cmimet e Belle Air s'kane problem fare. Belle Air eshte kompani private dhe qellimi eshte rritja e fitimit, jo ulja e cmimeve ne Rinas.
Sa per korrektesine e fluturimeve kjo eshte gje tjeter. Dhe ketu duhet te nderhyje shteti. Vonesat mbi 2 ore (ne mos gaboj) per faj te kompanise ne BE gjobiten nga autoritetet dhe kompania duhet te shperbleje udhetaret. S'e di tamam aplikimin e kesaj rregulloreje, por kisha mendimin qe kjo gje duhej te aplikohej mbi te gjitha fluturimet qe kishin si destinacion apo origjine aeroportet e BE-se, qe i bie qe te kapin edhe Belle Air.

Pjesa me e madhe e njerezve nuk e dine kete dhe e lejojne veten te trajtohen si kafshe nga Belle Air qe i vonon dhe anullon fluturimet sipas qejfit, jo sepse ka ndonje shkak teknik, por thjeshte se nuk ka pasagjer mjaftueshem per ate fluturim, dhe nuk i intereson nga ana financiare qe ta nissin.

Nje shoku im te cilit ju anullua fluturimi para ca kohesh, i beri namin dhe i kercenoi qe do i raportonte te autoritetet ne BE dhe duke i treguar dhe rregullat e tyre (qe i permende dhe ti me siper) arriti ti merrte rimbursim vleren e plote te biletes.

AltinD
May 20th, 2012, 12:58 PM
BTW, industria e Aviacionit ne Evrope ka marre fund. Kane te drejte dresjtuesit e linjave Asiatike qe thone: Ne vend qe qeverite ti konsiderojne si shtytes biznesi dhe zhvillimi ekonomik, i trajtojne linjat ajrore thjeshte si depozite financiare per zhvatje.

daalbo
May 20th, 2012, 01:50 PM
Po jo se s'eshte tamam ashtu. Evropa ka filluar te aplikoje ca taksa kot mbasi kot mbi shoqerite ajrore kohet e fundit. Gjithashtu rregullat per mbrojtjen e udhetarit kane ndikuar direkt ne koston e biletes. Por ne te njejten kohe, industria ajrore ne Europe (por edhe ne Amerike) eshte bere me eficente, dhe ajo qe t'i quan zhvatje s'eshte gje tjeter vetem ndalesa e ndihmes financiare qe shume qeveri i japin shoqerive ajorore.

Industria ajrore ka ndryshuar njehere e pergjithmone ne Europe dhe ne Amerike. Edhe Azia nuk eshte shume prapa, por fakti qe ne pergjithesi eshte me pak e zhvilluar le me shume hapesira per rritje dhe lejon shoqeri te vogla ajrore te mbijetojne sot per sot. Ne Europe kishim nga nje shoqeri ajrore per cdo shtet qe ne shumicen e rasteve ishin pa fitim dhe qe mbaheshin me leket e shtetit. Nje nga rastet me tipike ishte Malevi. Cmimet e Malevit nga Rinasi psh ishin relativisht me te ulta se shoqerite e tjera. Dhe shumica e udhetareve shqiptare nuk rrinin ne Budapest por lidheshin per ne vende te tjera. Kuptohet qe Hungaria kishte nje perfitim te vogel duke patur fluturime direkte me shume vende qe po te ishte vetem ne baze te te trafikut origjine-destinacion, asnjehere s'do ishte e mundur. Por ne te njejten kohe shumicen e perfitimit te lekeve qe Hungaria harxhonte per Malevin nuk e shikonin hungarezet (hiq punetoret e Malevit dhe aeroportit) por udhetaret si puna meje psh qe e kishin shume me te lire te fluturonin Gatwick-Budapest-Rinas sesa direkt Gatwick-Rinas. Me nje fjale, shteti hungarez ne nje fare menyre subvenciononte fluturimin per udhetaret tranzit si puna meje dhe s'kishte ndonje fitim te madh nga mua se une ne Budapest rrija me pak se nje ore dhe nuk eshte qe po dilja neper qytet dhe po shpenzoja paret e medhaja. Kjo normal qe nuk kishte kuptim. Dhe normal qe qeveria e ndaloi kete gje. Per mua ishte keq, por per Hungarine ishte me mire. Sa per nxitjen e trafikut turistik, sapo falimentoi Malevi linjat turistike (jo linjat tip Tirane apo Sarejeve apo Shkupi) u zevendesuan nga shoqerite low cost, qe e bejne kete gje me mire dhe me lire se sa c'e bente Malevi.

Keshtu qe nuk mund te them qe industria ajrore ka marre fund ne Europe. Thjesht qe industria ka ndryshuar dhe sot s'do kemi hub ne cdo kryeqytet europian. Industria eshte konsoliduar dhe do vazhdoje te konsolidohet. Nga shoqerite e vjetra do ngelin vetem tre (bashke me "motrat" e tyre), Lufthansa, British dhe Air France, plus shoqerite low cost. Shoqerite e vogla qe kane ngelur ose do blihen nga nje nga keto te medhate ose do falimentojne. Linjat me trafik te shendoshe sigurisht qe do terheqin shoqerite low cost dhe gjithmone do kene fluturime direkte, por linjat me trafik me te dobet s'do kene me fluturime direkte sepse asnje s'do fluturoje me Rinas-Ljubljane-Mancester sepse qeveria sllovene s'do vazhdoje me te hedhi leke tek Adria. Keshtu qe keta udhetare ne te ardhmen do lidhen ndermjet nje prej tre shoqerive te medha.

E njejta gje ka ndodhur ne Amerike. Industria ajrore eshte konsoliduar. Qytete qe deri dje kishin fluturime direkte ne cdo cep te Amerikes, sot jane kthyer ne aeroporte fantazma sepse s'ka kuptim ekonomik qe nje shoqeri ajrore te kete hub ne dy qytete afer e afer njeri tjetrit. St Louis psh nje here e nje kohe (deri rreth 10 vjet me pare) kishte fluturime anembane Amerikes plus per ne Europe. Sot eshte nje hic sepse baza ekonomike e qytetit vete nuk mundeson gjithe keto fluturime pa pasagjere tranzit. Kur TWA, shoqeria baze e St Louis u ble nga American Airlines qe kishte hub pak me tutje ne Cikago, trafiku u zhvendos atje. Ti mund te thuash qe fakti qe TWA kishte fluturime nga St Louis gjithandej kishte perfitim ekonomik per qytetin. Sigurisht qe kishte, por problemi ishte se s'kishte shume perfitim per TWA qe falimentoi dhe u ble nga American. Si puna e St Louis ka shume shembuj te tjere ne Amerike.

Si perfundim, industria ajrore ka ndryshuar njehere e pergjithmone ne boten e zhvilluar. Por per kete s'e ka fajin shteti por eshte thjesht ekonomi tregu. Nuk eshte se shteti po ja merr frymen shoqerive ajrore, eshte thjesht fakti qe shteti po ndalon ndihmen financiare ndaj tyre dhe po i detyron keto shoqerite qe te funksionojne me teper si biznese private se sa si shoqeri shteterore. Ne krahasim me 10-20 vjet me pare, relievi i industrise ajrore sot reflekton me qarte realitetin financiar te kohes. Meritat apo te metat e ndihmes shteterore je i lutur t'i diskutosh me grupin. :D

daalbo
May 20th, 2012, 02:01 PM
Pjesa me e madhe e njerezve nuk e dine kete dhe e lejojne veten te trajtohen si kafshe nga Belle Air qe i vonon dhe anullon fluturimet sipas qejfit, jo sepse ka ndonje shkak teknik, por thjeshte se nuk ka pasagjer mjaftueshem per ate fluturim, dhe nuk i intereson nga ana financiare qe ta nissin.

Kjo eshte 100% e vertete. Per linjat me trafik te madh dhe ne sezon vere s'e ke problem sepse do kete udhetare. Per ato me trafik me te dobet apo ne dimer e ke me frike. Me Belle Air kam fluturuar vetem nje here para nja dy vitesh per ne Shtutgart mbas Krishtlindjeve. Ngaqe ishte linje e dobet, gjithe kohes kisha frike se mos po e anullonin fluturimin dhe per ne Shtutgart fluturonin vetem nje here ne jave, keshtu qe nuk eshte mund te merrja prape fluturimin te nesermen. E vetmja arsye se pse preva bileten me ata ishte sepse po shkoja ne Berlin per Vitin e Ri, dhe bileta per ne Shtutgart dhe treni prej andej ishte shume me e lire se sa nje menyre alternative, dhe ne ate kohe po beja masterin keshtu qe nuk i kisha leket me shume bollek. Mund t'i kem marre ne telefon 100 milione here para fluturimit thjesht per te vertetuar qe fluturimi akoma s'ishte anulluar dhe vazhdonte normalisht. Per fatin tim fluturimi shkoi relativisht mire dhe avioni ishte rreth gjysem i mbushur sepse kishte nje grup te madh udhetaresh qe po shkonin me agjensi turistike atje.

Por asnjehere me s'do blej bileta me Belle Air per ne sezon te ulet, hiq qytetet kryesore ne Itali.

AltinD
May 20th, 2012, 03:25 PM
daalbo:

Linjat Ajrore ne Evrope & USA qe ti i quan private = me humbje
Linjat Ajrore ne Azi & ME qe ti i quan shteterore = fitim

Eshte thjeshte pune modeli biznesi qe ndiqet, si edhe ndryshimi i situates ekonomike dhe spostimit te boshtit nga lindja, Ti kujton se Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Cathay mbijetojne se i mbajne shtetet perkatese me pare, apo sepse dine si ta bejne biznesin? Ato historite per subvencionim nga shteti dhe karburant me cmim te ulet jane perralla me mbret.

Por eshte e vertete qe ato qeveri perkatese e kuprojne rendesine e Aviacionit per ekonomite e tyre dhe i mbeshtesin nga ana strategjike (jo linjat ajrore por industrine e aviacionit ne pergjithesi), sic mbeshtesin ne perendim industrite lokale te makinave psh.

tamarrsha
May 23rd, 2012, 05:02 AM
Problemi eshte vetem nje: Klausola e ekskluzivitetit qe ka Hochtief. Shqiperia do kishte shume nevoje per 5 aeroporte (meqe tren praktikisht nuk ka):

1. Tirana
2. Kukesi
3. Saranda
4. Shkodra
5. Korca
6. Berati

Tani per tani Shkodres i ben konkurence Podgorica, po Shkodra mund te kishte pa frike 300-400 mije pasagjere ne vit (ka Tirana 1.8M).

Kukesi mund te sherbeje Prizrenin, Pejen dhe Shqiperine verilindore dhe do kishte gjithashtu 400 mije pasagjere ne vit.

Saranda do kishte rreth 600 mije pasagjere per lemin e jashtezakonshem te te mirave arkeologjike e kulturore.

Korces i ben konkurence Ohri, po Korca do mund te bente shume mire. Korca do kishte 200 mije pasagjere e do sherbente edhe Follorinen e Kosturin me se paku 300 mije pasagjere.

Beratit i duhet nje aeroport i vogel i cili do sillte turiste per perlen qe Berati eshte (te pakten 200 mije pasagjere ne vit).

1.8M+.4+.4+.6+.3+.2=3.7M potencial ( cili eshte i realizuar per me pak se gjysmen e tij).

Kini parasysh qe Shqiperia ishte destinacioni #1 ne bote nga Lonely Planet.

Po ju them nje kuriozitet. Ne vitet 1930 Shqiperia kishte aeroporte ne Korce, Gjirokaster, Shkoder, Tirane, dhe kini parasysh qe fluturimet dhe aviacioni comercial ishte vertete ne fillimet e tij. Per me teper Shqiperia kishte 1/4 e popullsise qe ka sot (700-800 mije popullsi ne krahasim me popullsine 3-3.2 milioneshe te tanishme (edhe pse Saliu beri cmos t'i nxirrte shqiptaret me pak per t'i bere qejfin Nicholas Gage-it).

Shpeshhere ne vitet 1930 biznesmenet shqiptare merrnin avjonin e shkonin nga nje qytet te tjetri, bile edhe skuadrat e futbollit shkonin me avjon. Kete nuk jua tha asnjehere Enveri me Saliun, po eshte e vertete. Tirana shkonte ne Shkoder me avjon per te luajtur kunder Vllaznise. Te njejten gje bente me Korcen.

Kjo eshte e pamundur 80 vjet me vone, pasi Hochtief ka eksluziven.

AltinD
May 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM
Mos ja fut kot fare tani. E cilat do ishin ato linja ajrore qe do fluturonin neper ato aeroporte? 400,000 pasagjer i thone deri 1500 fluturime ne vit, ose 4 ne dite :nuts:

k0ntir
May 23rd, 2012, 04:50 PM
^^ Albanian Flying Company, Albanian Pordha Inc, Albanian Zeqo Air. 500 lek fluturime nga Kukesi ne Shkoder. Dhe 1000 lek nga kukesi per ne Sarande.

doFLer
May 23rd, 2012, 09:33 PM
Problemi eshte vetem nje: Klausola e ekskluzivitetit qe ka Hochtief. Shqiperia do kishte shume nevoje per 5 aeroporte (meqe tren praktikisht nuk ka):

1. Tirana
2. Kukesi
3. Saranda
4. Shkodra
5. Korca
6. Berati

Tani per tani Shkodres i ben konkurence Podgorica, po Shkodra mund te kishte pa frike 300-400 mije pasagjere ne vit (ka Tirana 1.8M).

Kukesi mund te sherbeje Prizrenin, Pejen dhe Shqiperine verilindore dhe do kishte gjithashtu 400 mije pasagjere ne vit.

Saranda do kishte rreth 600 mije pasagjere per lemin e jashtezakonshem te te mirave arkeologjike e kulturore.

Korces i ben konkurence Ohri, po Korca do mund te bente shume mire. Korca do kishte 200 mije pasagjere e do sherbente edhe Follorinen e Kosturin me se paku 300 mije pasagjere.

Beratit i duhet nje aeroport i vogel i cili do sillte turiste per perlen qe Berati eshte (te pakten 200 mije pasagjere ne vit).

1.8M+.4+.4+.6+.3+.2=3.7M potencial ( cili eshte i realizuar per me pak se gjysmen e tij).

Kini parasysh qe Shqiperia ishte destinacioni #1 ne bote nga Lonely Planet.

Po ju them nje kuriozitet. Ne vitet 1930 Shqiperia kishte aeroporte ne Korce, Gjirokaster, Shkoder, Tirane, dhe kini parasysh qe fluturimet dhe aviacioni comercial ishte vertete ne fillimet e tij. Per me teper Shqiperia kishte 1/4 e popullsise qe ka sot (700-800 mije popullsi ne krahasim me popullsine 3-3.2 milioneshe te tanishme (edhe pse Saliu beri cmos t'i nxirrte shqiptaret me pak per t'i bere qejfin Nicholas Gage-it).

Shpeshhere ne vitet 1930 biznesmenet shqiptare merrnin avjonin e shkonin nga nje qytet te tjetri, bile edhe skuadrat e futbollit shkonin me avjon. Kete nuk jua tha asnjehere Enveri me Saliun, po eshte e vertete. Tirana shkonte ne Shkoder me avjon per te luajtur kunder Vllaznise. Te njejten gje bente me Korcen.

Kjo eshte e pamundur 80 vjet me vone, pasi Hochtief ka eksluziven.

O tamarrsha,

Tirana 1.8milione ne vit nuk i ka vetem tironsa qe fluturojne, po jane edhe ata 400,000 shkodranet qe thua ti, Durrsaket, Korcaret....e merr me mend ku dua te dal. Shqiperise nje aeroport i del e i mjafton,

Zhvillimi i infratruktures rrugore i nxjerr aeroportet jashte loje komplet.
Ne nje te ardhme te shpejte uroj qe eshte hekurrudhat te permiresohen.

Nje pellemb vend jemi, nga Tirana ne Vermosh nje helikopter i lehte (mezi mbante 4 veta megjithe pilotin) e beri per 40 minuta...isha vete. Po aeroplani nga Tirana ne Shkoder per sa do e bej?
I bie te arrish me shpejt me makine ne Shkoder se sa ti hypesh aeroplanit (duke marre parasysh rrugen per ne Rinas, kontrollit, pritjes, etj.)
Thjesht nuk eshte praktike.

Tartanzan
May 23rd, 2012, 10:07 PM
O tamarrsha,

Tirana 1.8milione ne vit nuk i ka vetem tironsa qe fluturojne, po jane edhe ata 400,000 shkodranet qe thua ti, Durrsaket, Korcaret....e merr me mend ku dua te dal. Shqiperise nje aeroport i del e i mjafton,

Zhvillimi i infratruktures rrugore i nxjerr aeroportet jashte loje komplet.
Ne nje te ardhme te shpejte uroj qe eshte hekurrudhat te permiresohen.

Nje pellemb vend jemi, nga Tirana ne Vermosh nje helikopter i lehte (mezi mbante 4 veta megjithe pilotin) e beri per 40 minuta...isha vete. Po aeroplani nga Tirana ne Shkoder per sa do e bej?
I bie te arrish me shpejt me makine ne Shkoder se sa ti hypesh aeroplanit (duke marre parasysh rrugen per ne Rinas, kontrollit, pritjes, etj.)
Thjesht nuk eshte praktike.

+1. Pervec ndoshta nje aeroporti turistik ne Vlore apo Sarande, qe do punonte vetem pergjat sezonit turistik, nuk kemi nevoje per ndonje aeroport tjeter ne Shkoder apo Kukes.

daalbo
May 25th, 2012, 12:42 AM
daalbo:

Linjat Ajrore ne Evrope & USA qe ti i quan private = me humbje
Linjat Ajrore ne Azi & ME qe ti i quan shteterore = fitim

Eshte thjeshte pune modeli biznesi qe ndiqet, si edhe ndryshimi i situates ekonomike dhe spostimit te boshtit nga lindja, Ti kujton se Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Cathay mbijetojne se i mbajne shtetet perkatese me pare, apo sepse dine si ta bejne biznesin? Ato historite per subvencionim nga shteti dhe karburant me cmim te ulet jane perralla me mbret.

Por eshte e vertete qe ato qeveri perkatese e kuprojne rendesine e Aviacionit per ekonomite e tyre dhe i mbeshtesin nga ana strategjike (jo linjat ajrore por industrine e aviacionit ne pergjithesi), sic mbeshtesin ne perendim industrite lokale te makinave psh.
Nje nga arsyet se pse DISA (jo te gjitha) shoqeri ajrore jane me humbje ne Perendim eshte pikerisht sepse ka konkurrence te paster dhe nuk i kane krahet e ngrohta nga shteti. Me rregullat e punes se Perendimit dhe me konkurrencen ne Perendim asnje nga keto shoqerite ajrore ne lindje s'do ishin kaq te sukseshme. Kostoja me e madhe per shoqerite ajrore nuk eshte karburanti, por pagat dhe perfitimet e punetoreve. Shoqerite ne Lindje paguajne shume me pak dhe i heqin nga pune kur plaken punetoret. Shoqerite ne Perendim i mbajne ne pune deri ne fund dhe pastaj duhet t'i paguajne edhe pensionin. Pensioni eshte nje nga kostot me te medha per shoqerite ajrore. Ne industrine e aviacionit cdo gje varet ne vitet e punes. Eshte pak si budallik por vjetersia ne pune percakton gjithcka, duke filluar nga rroga tek cila linje apo avion fluturon. Keshtu qe sa me te vjeter te jene punetoret, aq me te larta jane kostot. Nqs shoqerite ajrore lindore do kishin te njejtat kosto si ato perendimore atehere mund te thuash qe keto lindoret jane me te afta. Por kjo gje s'ndodh. Dhe eshte e kollajshme per Emirates te lavderoje veten kur u themelua me paret e shtetit dhe u mbajt ne kembe nga shteti deri sa u be e zonja e vetes. Te njejten gje qe po ben Abu Dabi tani me Etihad. Ti lavderoji sa te duash shoqerite e Lindjes, por ato thjesht nuk perballen me te njejtin realitet si shoqerite perendimore, prandaj eshte e kote te thuash qe kuptojne biznesin me mire. Tani ti mund te thuash qe normat e Lindjes jane me te mira, por jam shume i sigurt qe shumica e grave ne Perendim do ishin kundra faktit qe do pushoheshin nga puna nqs do martoheshin psh. Nuk eshte me 1955. Dhe nqs Emirates do ishte kaq e mrekullueshme, atehere pse i ra fitimi me 75% kete vit?

daalbo
May 25th, 2012, 12:49 AM
Problemi eshte vetem nje: Klausola e ekskluzivitetit qe ka Hochtief. Shqiperia do kishte shume nevoje per 5 aeroporte (meqe tren praktikisht nuk ka):

1. Tirana
2. Kukesi
3. Saranda
4. Shkodra
5. Korca
6. Berati

Tani per tani Shkodres i ben konkurence Podgorica, po Shkodra mund te kishte pa frike 300-400 mije pasagjere ne vit (ka Tirana 1.8M).

Kukesi mund te sherbeje Prizrenin, Pejen dhe Shqiperine verilindore dhe do kishte gjithashtu 400 mije pasagjere ne vit.

Saranda do kishte rreth 600 mije pasagjere per lemin e jashtezakonshem te te mirave arkeologjike e kulturore.

Korces i ben konkurence Ohri, po Korca do mund te bente shume mire. Korca do kishte 200 mije pasagjere e do sherbente edhe Follorinen e Kosturin me se paku 300 mije pasagjere.

Beratit i duhet nje aeroport i vogel i cili do sillte turiste per perlen qe Berati eshte (te pakten 200 mije pasagjere ne vit).

1.8M+.4+.4+.6+.3+.2=3.7M potencial ( cili eshte i realizuar per me pak se gjysmen e tij).

Kini parasysh qe Shqiperia ishte destinacioni #1 ne bote nga Lonely Planet.

Po ju them nje kuriozitet. Ne vitet 1930 Shqiperia kishte aeroporte ne Korce, Gjirokaster, Shkoder, Tirane, dhe kini parasysh qe fluturimet dhe aviacioni comercial ishte vertete ne fillimet e tij. Per me teper Shqiperia kishte 1/4 e popullsise qe ka sot (700-800 mije popullsi ne krahasim me popullsine 3-3.2 milioneshe te tanishme (edhe pse Saliu beri cmos t'i nxirrte shqiptaret me pak per t'i bere qejfin Nicholas Gage-it).

Shpeshhere ne vitet 1930 biznesmenet shqiptare merrnin avjonin e shkonin nga nje qytet te tjetri, bile edhe skuadrat e futbollit shkonin me avjon. Kete nuk jua tha asnjehere Enveri me Saliun, po eshte e vertete. Tirana shkonte ne Shkoder me avjon per te luajtur kunder Vllaznise. Te njejten gje bente me Korcen.

Kjo eshte e pamundur 80 vjet me vone, pasi Hochtief ka eksluziven.

Dhe une kujtoja se budalliqet qe shkruajne kalamajt per blerjen e 100 F22 apo nja 10 aeroplanembajtesve ishin budallik. Para ketyre brockullave me lart, ato endrrat ushtarake te kalamajve duken mese te realizueshme.:lol: Megjithese une them qe Tiranes i duhen e pakta 3 aeroporte qe te kapi zona te ndryshme sepse sot ai qe jeton ne tek Brryli po shkon dhe fluturon nga Shkupi sepse e ka shume te veshtire te shkoj ne Rinas (sepse eshte ne anen tjeter te qytetit) dhe prandaj ia fut per ne Shkup me kollaj.

AltinD
May 27th, 2012, 09:33 PM
Tani ti mund te thuash qe normat e Lindjes jane me te mira, por jam shume i sigurt qe shumica e grave ne Perendim do ishin kundra faktit qe do pushoheshin nga puna nqs do martoheshin psh. Nuk eshte me 1955. Dhe nqs Emirates do ishte kaq e mrekullueshme, atehere pse i ra fitimi me 75% kete vit?

Pse cfare kujton ti se i ka stuardesat Emirates, Arabe nga UAE? :lol:

Fitimi i ra 75% Emirates kete vit sepse u rrit cmimi i karburantit (mos me thuaj qe dhe ti je nga ata budallenjte qe thone ja jep shteti falas a me te lire karburantin)

daalbo
May 27th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Pse cfare kujton ti se i ka stuardesat Emirates, Arabe nga UAE? :lol:

Fitimi i ra 75% Emirates kete vit sepse u rrit cmimi i karburantit (mos me thuaj qe dhe ti je nga ata budallenjte qe thone ja jep shteti falas a me te lire karburantin)

S'ka rendesi fare se nga jane stuardjesat. Ato nuk punojne ne te njejtat rregulla pune si ne vendet e tyre. Plus qe shumica nuk jane nga Perendimi, pavarsisht se ka shume.

Sa per piken e dyte, kush tha qe i jep shteti falas karburantin (megjithese shteti i jep gjera te tjera)? Por meqe zure me goje sa e sukseshme eshte Emirates ne krahasim me shoqerite ne Perendim, atehere eshte normale qe te nxjerrim ne pah edhe kete suksesin e tanishem te madh te Emirates.

AltinD
May 29th, 2012, 03:09 PM
^^ Mund te mos jene shumica, por jane patjeter rreth gjysma, e kur ato jane te gatshme te punojne perkohesisht si stuardesa (qe ne fakt duhet ta bejne te gjithe sepse eshte e demshme per shendetin te fluturosh gjate, sidomos ne udhetime interkontinentale) ne UAE ose Qatar, pse jo dhe ne EU & USA, por natyrisht Sindikatave nuk i intereson. Rrogen nuk e kane me te vogel, biles pilotet paguhen me shume ketu.

Vertete nuk i paguajne taxa shtetit ketu por i paguajne divident, pastaj ato shoqeri ne EU & USA u privatizuan sepse shteti atje nuk ishte ne gjendje ti manaxhonte.

Ju te gjithe komplet e injoroni faktin qe keto shoqeri ishin te gjitha shteterore dikur.

Harroje, Evropa & USA ishin dikur qendrat e biznesit dhe vendet me me shume pasagjer, tani biznesi eshte zhvendosur drejt lindjes, avionet jane permirsuar keshtu qe ME ka avantazhin te jete pikerisht ne mes. Pastaj linjat nga EU & USA punuan per dekada pa konkurence te mirefillte, tani qe konkurenca u shtua, eshte tjeter muhabet.

AltinD
May 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Megjithate, te kthehemi ne teme se do na vije grupi me essay 1000 llafe :lol:


.... ore, pse e kishin ndryshuar orarin Turkish, e duket sikur na paska dy fluturime per Tirane, apo thjesht vjen ne mengjes avioni dhe iken ne darke, ose mbase e kane vetem gjate diteve te javes ne mengjes dhe ne weekend ne darke?

Une preva bileten per ne vere dhe mberrij ne 8:15 AM ne Tirane (dite jave) dhe nisem ne 8:45 PM (fundjave). Ne fakt me ben mire se pres vetem 60 - 65 min ne Stamboll, ne te dyja heret, por perpara vija te Shtunen pasi mbyllja dhe javen e punes, e kesaj rradhe nuk me perputhet se i binte te prisja gjithe diten ne tranzit.

AltinD
May 29th, 2012, 03:20 PM
8:15 AM mberritja, i bie te mar taxi se kush del te pret qe ne pike te mjesit ...

daalbo
May 29th, 2012, 10:25 PM
Megjithate, te kthehemi ne teme se do na vije grupi me essay 1000 llafe :lol:


.... ore, pse e kishin ndryshuar orarin Turkish, e duket sikur na paska dy fluturime per Tirane, apo thjesht vjen ne mengjes avioni dhe iken ne darke, ose mbase e kane vetem gjate diteve te javes ne mengjes dhe ne weekend ne darke?

Une preva bileten per ne vere dhe mberrij ne 8:15 AM ne Tirane (dite jave) dhe nisem ne 8:45 PM (fundjave). Ne fakt me ben mire se pres vetem 60 - 65 min ne Stamboll, ne te dyja heret, por perpara vija te Shtunen pasi mbyllja dhe javen e punes, e kesaj rradhe nuk me perputhet se i binte te prisja gjithe diten ne tranzit.

Ka 10 fluturime ne jave tani ne vere ne mos gaboj, sic kishte dhe vjet.

daalbo
May 29th, 2012, 10:42 PM
^^ Mund te mos jene shumica, por jane patjeter rreth gjysma, e kur ato jane te gatshme te punojne perkohesisht si stuardesa (qe ne fakt duhet ta bejne te gjithe sepse eshte e demshme per shendetin te fluturosh gjate, sidomos ne udhetime interkontinentale) ne UAE ose Qatar, pse jo dhe ne EU & USA, por natyrisht Sindikatave nuk i intereson. Rrogen nuk e kane me te vogel, biles pilotet paguhen me shume ketu.

Vertete nuk i paguajne taxa shtetit ketu por i paguajne divident, pastaj ato shoqeri ne EU & USA u privatizuan sepse shteti atje nuk ishte ne gjendje ti manaxhonte.

Ju te gjithe komplet e injoroni faktin qe keto shoqeri ishin te gjitha shteterore dikur.

Harroje, Evropa & USA ishin dikur qendrat e biznesit dhe vendet me me shume pasagjer, tani biznesi eshte zhvendosur drejt lindjes, avionet jane permirsuar keshtu qe ME ka avantazhin te jete pikerisht ne mes. Pastaj linjat nga EU & USA punuan per dekada pa konkurence te mirefillte, tani qe konkurenca u shtua, eshte tjeter muhabet.

Ne Europe po kane qene shteterore, kurse ne Amerike jo. Dhe normal qe shteti nuk e menaxhon dot nje shoqeri aq mire sa nje privat. Emirates apo Qatar nuk jane te menaxhuara mire nga shteti, por ato jane te sukseshme sepse marrin favore nga shteti. Dhe pastaj ka edhe shoqeri po shteterore aty rrumbullak qe jane me nje kembe ne varr si puna e Gulf Air. Dhe gjysma e stuardjesave te Emirates nuk jane nga perendimi.

Ti po e ben sikur trafiku ka vdekur ne perendim. Trafiku ne perendim po rritet, por normal qe ne nje vend te zhvilluar rritja s'do jete me te njejtat ritme si ne nje vend ne zhvillim. Dhe te thuash qe ne perendim s'ka patur konkurrence eshte akoma me absurde. Pan Am, TWA, Braniff dhe Eastern (plus me dhjetra te tjera me te vogla) ishin te gjitha shoqeri historike ne Amerike qe falimentuan perpara se Emirates apo Qatar te enderronin per fluturime ne Amerike. E njejta pikture edhe ne Europe. Sabene, Swissair, Air Inter, Laker etj falimentuan shume here me perpara se shoqerite e Gjirit te ishin keto qe jane sot.

AltinD
May 30th, 2012, 09:45 PM
^^ E kam fjalen ne Inter-Continental travel from/to Australasia. Une nuk e di per punen e QR por EK eshte ne fakt shume mire e manaxhuar, mos ja fut kot tani.

daalbo
June 6th, 2012, 08:05 PM
Altin,
Ka shume maqedonas ne Dubai? FlyDubai do filloje fluturime per ne Shkup, dhe megjithese ca veta do lidhen per me tej, me vjen cudi qe fillojne fluturime per ne Shkup dhe jo per ne Tirane apo Prishtine. Duket puna tamam qe po ben TAV ne Shkup ne krahasim me Limakun apo Hochtief ne Tirane.

daalbo
June 11th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Vazhdojne lajmet e keqija per Rinasin. Ne Prill trafiku ra me 10%.

Grupi_Armiqsor
June 11th, 2012, 10:34 PM
Linjat Ajrore ne Evrope & USA qe ti i quan private = me humbje
Linjat Ajrore ne Azi & ME qe ti i quan shteterore = fitim

Eshte thjeshte pune modeli biznesi qe ndiqet

S'ka te bej fare ajo. Ka te bej tregu ku operojne. Nuk mund te krahasohet tregu Amerikan, dhe atje ku fulturojne kompanite Amerikane (ose Evropiane), me UAE apo Azi. Komplet ndryshe.

Gjithsesi, ajo qe ka rendesi eshte...pikpamja e konsumatorit, jo kompanise.

dardanian
June 12th, 2012, 05:39 AM
Vazhdojne lajmet e keqija per Rinasin. Ne Prill trafiku ra me 10%.

@daalbo
Cili ėshtė burimi i kėtij lajmi? Unė hyra te web faqja e aeroportit tė Tiranės dhe nuk kishte shėnime zyrtare. Jam kurioz, aq.

Poashtu, mė duhet tė them se aterimi i flydubai nė SKP ėshtė impresiv, por unė personalisht jam mė shumė i interesuar nė zgjerimin "organik" tė aeroporteve. Ka shumė mundėsi qė kjo vijė ajrore hapet me steroide nga qeveria maqedonase dhe mbetet tė shihet ēdo tė ndodh kur tė ndėrpriten steroidet. Poashtu, vlen poashtu te thuhet qė fludubai ėshtė njė operator low-cost dhe nuk mund tė krahasohet me prestigjin e Qatar Airways, Emirates apo Etihad Airways. Sidoqoftė, lidhja direkte me Dubain ėshtė impresive dhe rrezikon trafikun (besoj tė vogėl) aziatik dhe oqeanik (Australia dhe Zelanda e Re) tė PRN'sė pėr shkak se kjo vijė ajrore mund tė shndėrrohet nė vijėn e preferuar para lidhjeve permes IST me Turkish.

Sa i pėrket TIA, viti 2011 kishte njė rritje tė paqėndrueshme qė rezultoi nga liberalizimi i vizave pėr nė Shengen zonėn. Rrjedhimisht pas njė rritje p.sh. 30% (nuk i di saktėsisht numrat e muajit maj tė vitit 2011) atėherė njė zbritje 10% vitin e ardhshėm nuk ėshtė katastrofale. Prapseprap paraqet njė ngritje 20% krahasuar me vitin 2010. Kėrkoj ndjesė qė nuk i kam numrat e saktė tė vitit 2011, por besoj qė mė kupton kur them qė pas njė viti tė jashtėzakonshėm si viti 2011, oscilimet e vitit 2012 nuk janė domosdosmėrisht "shqetsuese."

daalbo
June 14th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Numrat vijne nga faqja e Hochtief.

Sa per FlyDubai, po eshte teknikisht shoqeri low cost por eshte pjese e grupit te Emirates. Emirates nuk ka avione te vegjel, dhe per ca tregje te vogla perdor FlyDubai. Emirates dhe FlyDubai nuk kane codeshare me njera tjetren por ne tregje te caktuara lejojne qe pasagjeret te lidhen midis fluturimeve te nje shoqerie me tjetren. Psh nga Beogradi pasagjeret mund te fluturojne me FlyDubai per ne Dubai dhe pastaj te lidhen me Emirates per ne Australi, pa patur nevoje pasagjeri te bleje dy bileta komplet te ndryshme. Keshtu qe ne nje menyre apo tjeter, FlyDubai eshte Emirates per tregjet e vogla.

AltinD
June 14th, 2012, 05:05 PM
^^ E vertete, FlyDubai eshte Emirates dhe sherbimi eshte vertete shume i mire. Une vet nuk kam fluturuar ndonjehere me te, por kam nje shok qe fluturon pothuajse gjithnje me te per ne Doha dhe kthim

(PS: Eshte interesante sesa trafik ka nepermjet Dubait dhe Dohas. QR ka 11 fluturime ne dite, EK po aq gjithashtu dhe FlyDubai ka disa ... e te gjithe jane plot e cmimet skandaloze) :nuts:

dardanian
June 14th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Numrat vijne nga faqja e Hochtief.

Sa per FlyDubai, po eshte teknikisht shoqeri low cost por eshte pjese e grupit te Emirates. Emirates nuk ka avione te vegjel, dhe per ca tregje te vogla perdor FlyDubai. Emirates dhe FlyDubai nuk kane codeshare me njera tjetren por ne tregje te caktuara lejojne qe pasagjeret te lidhen midis fluturimeve te nje shoqerie me tjetren. Psh nga Beogradi pasagjeret mund te fluturojne me FlyDubai per ne Dubai dhe pastaj te lidhen me Emirates per ne Australi, pa patur nevoje pasagjeri te bleje dy bileta komplet te ndryshme. Keshtu qe ne nje menyre apo tjeter, FlyDubai eshte Emirates per tregjet e vogla.

@daalbo
Faleminderit pėr informata. Nuk isha nė dijeni qė flydubai dhe Emirates kanė "code share agreements." Shumė interesante! Nuk mund ta paramendoja njė "low-cost carrier" tė kishte fluturime lidhėse (connecting) e lere mė tė kishin "code share" -- easyJet/Wizz Air/Ryanair code sharing with Swiss/Lufthansa/Air France-KLM hahaha... e paparamendueshme. Unė po e interpretoj flydubai si "poor man's Emirates" (jo tėrėsisht low-cost) nė mėnyrė qė Emirates tė zgjerohet nė tregjet ku operimi i Emirates ėshtė i paqėndrueshėm shkaku i tarifave tė larta pėr Emirates (kuptohet, shkaku i nivelit tė lartė tė shėrbimeve).

Sidoqoftė, TIA ka dyfish mė shumė udhėtarė se SKP edhe do tė ishte e logjikshme qė njė linjė e tillė (pa steroide) tė hapej edhe drejt TIA'sė.

AltinD
June 14th, 2012, 10:05 PM
^^ UAE dhe AL e kane firmosur marreveshjen, keshtu qe kur ta shohin te nevojshme, do e sjellin dhe ne TIA.

daalbo
June 16th, 2012, 03:30 AM
@daalbo
Faleminderit pėr informata. Nuk isha nė dijeni qė flydubai dhe Emirates kanė "code share agreements." Shumė interesante! Nuk mund ta paramendoja njė "low-cost carrier" tė kishte fluturime lidhėse (connecting) e lere mė tė kishin "code share" -- easyJet/Wizz Air/Ryanair code sharing with Swiss/Lufthansa/Air France-KLM hahaha... e paparamendueshme. Unė po e interpretoj flydubai si "poor man's Emirates" (jo tėrėsisht low-cost) nė mėnyrė qė Emirates tė zgjerohet nė tregjet ku operimi i Emirates ėshtė i paqėndrueshėm shkaku i tarifave tė larta pėr Emirates (kuptohet, shkaku i nivelit tė lartė tė shėrbimeve).

Sidoqoftė, TIA ka dyfish mė shumė udhėtarė se SKP edhe do tė ishte e logjikshme qė njė linjė e tillė (pa steroide) tė hapej edhe drejt TIA'sė.
Sa per te hequr ndonje keqkuptim, une nuk thashe qe kane codeshare me njera tjetren, por marreveshje interkonksioni per ne DISA vende qe lejojne udhetimin me nje bilete. Easyjet, Wizzair apo Ryanair jane kompani te vecanta prandaj nuk codeshare. Por psh Germanwings ne Gjermani qe eshte ne pronesi te Lufthanses zevendeson fluturimet e Lufthanses ne tregje te caktuara. Te njejten gje ben Iberia me Vueling nga Barcelona, etj. Por ka edhe kompani te tjera low-cost si puna e jetBlue qe megjithese jane te pavarura prape bejne lidhje me shoqeri te tjera. Ka shume modele low cost. Tipi Ryanair eshte vetem nje prej ketyre.

shqipo
June 16th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Negociata pėr aeroportin e Sarandės


Zhvillime pozitive mes qeverisė shqiptare dhe koncesionarit gjerman

ARD KOLA

Bisedimet kanė nisur zyrtarisht nė muajin nėntor tė vitit 2010, por pa rezultat konkret, duke u mjaftuar vetėm me “vullnetin e mirė” tė tė dyja palėve. Prej asaj kohe, diskutimet kanė sjellė zhvillime me ulje-ngritje pėr hapjen e aeroportit tė Sarandės, nė Jug tė vendit, si dhe aktivizimin e pistės sė Kukėsit pėr transport civilėsh. Negociata qė nisin, pastaj ngrijnė, e mė pas rikthehen pas disa studimeve, e mė tej qėndrojnė sėrish pezull. Duket se pėr koncesionarin gjerman, pronar me tė drejta tė plota tė aeroportit tė vetėm ndėrkombėtar tė vendit “Nėnė Tereza”, deri mė 2025-n ėshtė e vėshtirė tė vendosė pėr hapjen e tregut, duke lejuar transportin e njė tjetėr piste.

Koncerciumi “Hochtief”, i cili zotėron peshėn kryesore tė aksioneve, thotė se nga studimet e kryera pėr aeroportin e Sarandės (i kthyer nė fushė me bar), nuk del me leverdi, edhe pse e kupton rėndėsinė qė ka hapja e kėsaj linje pėr ekonominė e Shqipėrisė.

Gazeta “Shqip” mėson se palėt janė ulur sėrish nė bisedime dhe duket se zhvillimet paraqiten pozitive, ku nė parim gjermanėt janė shprehur tė gatshėm tė investojnė pėr hapjen e linjės sė re, e cila konsiderohet me tepėr leverdi pėr qeverinė shqiptare, pasi synon tė krijojė njė linjė tjetėr paralele pėr ishullin e Korfuzit, ku nė kulmin e sezonit turistik ka bum kėrkesash pėr udhėtime. Koncesionari gjerman kėrkon tė kryejė veprime tė kujdesshme, bazuar mbi zhvillimet politike nė vend, duke patur parasysh se kontrata aktuale ka shkaktuar debate tė forta mes forcave tė opozitės dhe mazhorancės. Vetėm zgjedhjet parlamentare tė 2013-s do tė ndajnė njė herė e mirė projektin e ndėrtimit tė aeroportit tė ri nė Sarandė.

Fakti qė fluksi i pasagjerėve e ka kapėrcyer numrin prej 1.8 milionė, i jep tė drejtė palės shqiptare tė rishikojė kontratėn pėr lejimin e fluturimeve jo vetėm nė Tiranė, por edhe nga dy pistat e tjera. Mėsohet se shoqėrisė “Hochtief” do t’i ofrohet e drejta ekskluzive pėr tė kontrolluar edhe dy aeroportet e tjera, duke i dhėnė mundėsinė e garantimit tė planit tė tė ardhurave, sikurse ishte parashikuar nė momentin kur morėn aeroportin “Nėnė Tereza”, nė janar 2005.

Nga ana e tyre, shoqėria “Tirana Aeroport Partners”, e cila drejtohet nga koncerciumi “Hochtief”, ku kanė aksione edhe amerikanėt, shprehen se investimet e kryera nga shoqėria nė 5 vitet e fundit kapin vlerėn e 50 milionė eurove dhe janė kryer nė bazė tė njė marrėveshjeje firmosur nė 2004, sipas tė cilės u jepte tė drejtė qė tė mbanin aeroportin “Nėnė Tereza”, pa lejuar hapjen e asnjė pike tjetėr, deri nė vitin 2025. Tani duket se kjo marrėveshje do tė prishet, pa qenė nevoja qė palėt t’i drejtohen gjyqit. Mėsohet se nė diskutime po shikohet edhe hapja e aeroportit tė Kukėsit, i ndėrtuar nga arabėt falė investimit prej 20 milionė dollarė, i cili ndodhet nė gjendje tė mirė.



Linjat

Kukėsi – Aeroporti i Kukėsit ėshtė ndėrtuar me financimin e arabėve, me vlerė 20 milionė dollarė dhe ėshtė i gatshėm pėr fluturime
Saranda – Aktualisht nė gjendje tė dobėt, e mbuluar nga bari, fusha e pistės sė Sarandės shikohet me interes pėr zhvillimin e turizmit


http://gazeta-shqip.com/lajme/2012/06/16/negociata-per-aeroportin-e-sarandes/

rene1234
June 17th, 2012, 10:56 AM
Nga keto lajme kemi vit per vit, po asgje konkrete s'kemi pare deri tani

shqipo
June 17th, 2012, 04:15 PM
pavaresisht faktit qe do mbesin gjithmone aeroporte te vegjel dhe me flluks jo konstant gjate vitit, jan aeroporte qe i duhen vendit, ashtu sic duhet edhe aeroporti korces... qofte edhe per perdorim privat. ekipit te skenderbeut pershembull do i duhej aeroporti per te udhetuar deri ne kukes me loz ndeshjet...

AltinD
June 17th, 2012, 10:06 PM
... psh Germanwings ne Gjermani qe eshte ne pronesi te Lufthanses zevendeson fluturimet e Lufthanses ne tregje te caktuara. Te njejten gje ben Iberia me Vueling nga Barcelona, etj.

Austrian Airlines ka perdorur gjithnje Lauda Air per fluturime ne shume destinacione, dhe per nje kohe perdorte ekzluzivisht Fokker-at me elika te Tyrolean Airways per rrugen VIE - TIA.

daalbo
June 18th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Lauda Air (shoqeri e nisur nga ish piloti i F1 Niki Lauda) u ble nga Austrian dhe u perdor per fluturime zakonisht ne destinacione pushimi (atje ku shkojne fluturimet carter). Kurse Tyrolean ishte komplet tjeter gje. Tyrolean eshte shoqeria rajonale e Austrian. Akoma perdoret Tyrolean per disa fluturime nga Tirana. Por megjithese Tyrolean i ka kostot shume me te ulta se Austrian, ajo nuk mund te quhet shoqeri low cost. Gati cdo shoqeri ajrore i ka avionet e vegjel nen nje nen-shoqeri dhe nuk i fluturon direkt vete. Lufthansa psh perdor Cityline, Augsburg (qe ben fluturimin e Rinasit), Air Dolomiti, etj. Por te gjitha keto jane shoqeri rajonale me avione me te vegjel dhe nuk jane te tipit low cost si puna e Easyjet apo Germanwings qe fluturojne avione te medhenj.

Dhe avionet e Tyrolean me helika nuk jane Fokker. Tyrolean ka Fokker ka edhe avione me helika, por ato me helika jane Dash 8 dhe jo Fokker :)

dardanian
June 19th, 2012, 05:56 AM
Lauda Air (shoqeri e nisur nga ish piloti i F1 Niki Lauda) u ble nga Austrian dhe u perdor per fluturime zakonisht ne destinacione pushimi (atje ku shkojne fluturimet carter). Kurse Tyrolean ishte komplet tjeter gje. Tyrolean eshte shoqeria rajonale e Austrian. Akoma perdoret Tyrolean per disa fluturime nga Tirana. Por megjithese Tyrolean i ka kostot shume me te ulta se Austrian, ajo nuk mund te quhet shoqeri low cost. Gati cdo shoqeri ajrore i ka avionet e vegjel nen nje nen-shoqeri dhe nuk i fluturon direkt vete. Lufthansa psh perdor Cityline, Augsburg (qe ben fluturimin e Rinasit), Air Dolomiti, etj. Por te gjitha keto jane shoqeri rajonale me avione me te vegjel dhe nuk jane te tipit low cost si puna e Easyjet apo Germanwings qe fluturojne avione te medhenj.

Dhe avionet e Tyrolean me helika nuk jane Fokker. Tyrolean ka Fokker ka edhe avione me helika, por ato me helika jane Dash 8 dhe jo Fokker :)

@daalbo, je inciklopedi e aviacionit fare. Rrofsh!

P.S. Cilat janė arsyet qė Tyrolean i ka kostot mė tė ulta se Austrian apo Lufthansa CityLine/Augsburg Airways/Air Dolomiti se Lufthansa?

daalbo
June 20th, 2012, 01:44 AM
I paguajne punetoret me pak. I kane punetoret nen kontrata te ndryshme dhe ato qe punojne tek shoqeria rajonale marrin zakonisht me pak. Lufthansa tani qe ka ne pronesi Austrian po mundohet qe te gjithe punetoret e Austrian t'i zhvendosi tek Tyrolean qe t'i uli rrogat dhe perfitimet e tjera ngaqe Austrian ka vite qe s'ka bere fitime.

daalbo
July 4th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Vazhdon renia e pasagjereve ne Rinas. Ne maj numri ra me 10.6%. Kurse numri i fluturimeve ra me rreth 15% ne krahasim me vjet. Pervec nja dy fluturimeve qe ka shtuar Belle Air, shoqerite e tjera ne pergjithesi i kane ulur fluturimet duke filluar qe nga Lufthansa dhe deri tek Malevi qe s'eshte me. Nuk e di se sa ka rene numri i sediljeve te ofruara nga Rinasi.

JoniTTML
August 6th, 2012, 12:26 AM
Belle Air merr miratimin nga Agjencia Europiane e Sigurisė Ajrore

http://www.noa.al/news/admin/home/noa/public_html/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Bellair_012-noa.al_.jpg

Belle Air ka marrė miratimin nga Agjencia Europiane e Sigurisė Ajrore (EASA - European Aviation Safety Agency) si Organizata pėr Monitorimin e Vazhdueshėm tė Vlefshmėrisė Ajrore (CAMO - Continuous Airworthiness Monitoring Organization ).

EASA ėshtė elementi kryesor i strategjisė sė Bashkimit Evropian pėr sigurinė e aviacionit dhe mbikėqyr tė gjitha Autoritetet e Aviacionit Civil tė BE-sė si dhe ēertifikatat pėrkatėse.

Njė organizatė e aprovuar CAMO ka tė drejtė tė mbikėqyrė statusin e mirėmbajtjes tė avionėve nė pėrputhje me standardet mė tė larta tė BE-sė nė lidhje aviacionin.

Kohėt e fundit, edhe vendet jashtė BE kanė njė shans tė jenė tė ēertifikuar direkt nga EASA, nėse ata arrijnė tė pėrmbushin standardet mė tė larta tė sigurisė.

Belle Air ėshtė kompania e dytė ajrore jashtė BE-sė qė arriti tė pėrmbushė tė gjitha kėrkesat, duke fituar autorizimin e sipėrpėrmendur.

Autorizimi CAMO ka jo vetėm njė ndikim pozitiv ekonomik, por dhe njė rol strategjik, duke e vendosur Belle Air, krah pėr krah operatorėve tė BE-sė e duke siguruar kėrkesa tė standardeve mė tė larta nė aviacion.

http://noa.al/news/artikull.php?id=215242

kontvrana
September 25th, 2012, 10:58 PM
How about the fact that the new terminal at TIA was over capacity since day one? How's that for lack of vision? How about the fact that they built a new connecting road with only two lanes when the incremental cost would have been relatively low to make it a normal four lane highway? How about the fact that they still haven't bothered to lengthen the runway that would allow non-stop flights to North America for example? How about the fact that the terminal does not have jetbridges? Do you need more?


Here we go, time to ask who is the one lacking the vision? 1 year ago everyone was all up in arms about an extenssion /about adding another airport, and other propagandistic ideas of the sort. 2 pages of continous decline in passengers should hopefully convince you, you were wrong (albeit I am certain it is a futile attempt, it is way too much to ask from you).

Still hoping for North America flights, still looking for a 2nd airport north? Still blaming the operator for not wasting money on (then) present trends?

I know "told you so" might be seen as unpopular, but what the hell: Told you so.

daalbo
September 26th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Huhhhh???? Come again....

If you're going to be a pathetic little minion and quote stuff from decades ago, at least make sure to quote something that's actually wrong. Oh wait, you couldn't find anything wrong with my post.

And according to you because TIA has had 7 consecutive months of declining numbers, that means that no investment is needed. Genius!!!! I recommend that you immediately become director of state planning. Going by your logic almost no airport in Europe should have had any investment given the fact that when TIA was growing, most were shrinking. And let me remind you that despite declining numbers, TIA still has a shitload more passengers than Skopje, which has a significantly larger terminal than TIA, or Ljubljana or Sarajevo or Montenegro airports. This year, the numbers between Prishtina and TIA should be neck and neck. So let me remind you again, that even this year, between ex-Yugoslavia and Albania, TIA will still be the 3rd busiest airport after Belgrade and Zagreb.

In fact the reason why TAV invested so heavily for a relatively huge terminal in Skopje, was exactly because they saw the success Hochtief had with TIA and tried to be better prepared for the success, despite Skopje getting about half the flights that Tirana gets. Same thing with TAV in Prishtina.

Now, let's look at my post from back then first.

The airport was over capacity from DAY 1. FACT. Design capacity is 1.5m per yr, the airport had that number of passengers since the year the extention opened. And guess what, Hochtief seems to have agreed since this year it was supposed to launch the tender for yet another terminal. And if it weren't for the financial difficulties of its parent company, you probably would have seen concrete expansion plans by now.

Next I said that they only built a narrow new road with only two lanes. I never claimed that current traffic needed a bigger road, but have always maintained that the incremental cost of a better road then would have been tiny compared to what it will cost to widen the road in the future.

Next I claimed that not extending the runway for direct flights was short sighted. And it is, regardless of the fact that your impaired cognitive abilities cannot grasp it. Tirana has more daily passangers to NY for example than places like Sofia or Budapest (let alone places like Skopje or Sarajevo). And direct (not non-stop) flights have existed in the past. And if it wasn't for the current crisis, sesonal flights to NY could have existed with the right infrastructure.

And the last thing I mentioned were jetbridges. Didn't realize that not installing elementary airport infrastructure was considered being visionary. Why don't you tell Skopje and Prishtina to get rid of theirs.




2 pages of continous decline in passengers should hopefully convince you, you were wrong (albeit I am certain it is a futile attempt, it is way too much to ask from you).

I guess I should be glad that we don't have more members here. Otherwise there might have been 4 pages of declining numbers, or God forbid 6 pages. :nuts: Didn't realize that declining passenger numbers are measured by the length of discussions. But since I'm the one who has posted the passenger numbers almost every month, I will stop from now on and then everything will be fine for you, since there will be 0 pages of declining. Why didn't you say earlier? From now on, I declare the decline over and no new numbers will be posted.


Still hoping for North America flights,
See I don't have to hope, since it has already happened in the past. So I see no reason why it can't happen again.


still looking for a 2nd airport north?

I dare you to find where I've said that we needed an airport in the north. Put your money where your mouth (or should I say ass) is and back that up.


Still blaming the operator for not wasting money on (then) present trends?

Wasting money??? THE AIRPORT IS UNDER CAPACITY AT PRESENT. How hard is to get that through your thick skull? Design capacity is 1.5m, passanger numbers this year should be around 1.6m.
And which trend are you referring to??? I didn't know that 7 months of declining numbers during a crisis are the normal trend from now on. I guess if you ignore 10+ years and cherry pick your data, you can come up with any trend you want. And even the decline this time around has had to do more with external factors, that could reverse quickly. The number of available flights at TIA has dropped this year due the closing of airlines like Malev or the reduction of flights from other airlines amid their own financial difficulties.

And if you were a tad smarter, you would know that traffic will grow at TIA. Traffic will continue to grow globally and more so in developing countries like Albania. So while it might fall this year, the overall trend is def up, not down.


I know "told you so" might be seen as unpopular, but what the hell: Told you so.
If you're referring to the fact that you showed me how retarded your whole thinking is, don't worry I already knew it.

kontvrana
September 27th, 2012, 04:08 AM
Huhhhh???? Come again....

If you're going to be a pathetic little minion and quote stuff from decades ago, at least make sure to quote something that's actually wrong. Oh wait, you couldn't find anything wrong with my post.

And according to you because TIA has had 7 consecutive months of declining numbers, that means that no investment is needed. Genius!!!! I recommend that you immediately become director of state planning. Going by your logic almost no airport in Europe should have had any investment given the fact that when TIA was growing, most were shrinking. And let me remind you that despite declining numbers, TIA still has a shitload more passengers than Skopje, which has a significantly larger terminal than TIA, or Ljubljana or Sarajevo or Montenegro airports. This year, the numbers between Prishtina and TIA should be neck and neck. So let me remind you again, that even this year, between ex-Yugoslavia and Albania, TIA will still be the 3rd busiest airport after Belgrade and Zagreb.

In fact the reason why TAV invested so heavily for a relatively huge terminal in Skopje, was exactly because they saw the success Hochtief had with TIA and tried to be better prepared for the success, despite Skopje getting about half the flights that Tirana gets. Same thing with TAV in Prishtina.

Now, let's look at my post from back then first.

The airport was over capacity from DAY 1. FACT. Design capacity is 1.5m per yr, the airport had that number of passengers since the year the extention opened. And guess what, Hochtief seems to have agreed since this year it was supposed to launch the tender for yet another terminal. And if it weren't for the financial difficulties of its parent company, you probably would have seen concrete expansion plans by now.

Next I said that they only built a narrow new road with only two lanes. I never claimed that current traffic needed a bigger road, but have always maintained that the incremental cost of a better road then would have been tiny compared to what it will cost to widen the road in the future.

Next I claimed that not extending the runway for direct flights was short sighted. And it is, regardless of the fact that your impaired cognitive abilities cannot grasp it. Tirana has more daily passangers to NY for example than places like Sofia or Budapest (let alone places like Skopje or Sarajevo). And direct (not non-stop) flights have existed in the past. And if it wasn't for the current crisis, sesonal flights to NY could have existed with the right infrastructure.

And the last thing I mentioned were jetbridges. Didn't realize that not installing elementary airport infrastructure was considered being visionary. Why don't you tell Skopje and Prishtina to get rid of theirs.




I guess I should be glad that we don't have more members here. Otherwise there might have been 4 pages of declining numbers, or God forbid 6 pages. :nuts: Didn't realize that declining passenger numbers are measured by the length of discussions. But since I'm the one who has posted the passenger numbers almost every month, I will stop from now on and then everything will be fine for you, since there will be 0 pages of declining. Why didn't you say earlier? From now on, I declare the decline over and no new numbers will be posted.


See I don't have to hope, since it has already happened in the past. So I see no reason why it can't happen again.


I dare you to find where I've said that we needed an airport in the north. Put your money where your mouth (or should I say ass) is and back that up.


Wasting money??? THE AIRPORT IS UNDER CAPACITY AT PRESENT. How hard is to get that through your thick skull? Design capacity is 1.5m, passanger numbers this year should be around 1.6m.
And which trend are you referring to??? I didn't know that 7 months of declining numbers during a crisis are the normal trend from now on. I guess if you ignore 10+ years and cherry pick your data, you can come up with any trend you want. And even the decline this time around has had to do more with external factors, that could reverse quickly. The number of available flights at TIA has dropped this year due the closing of airlines like Malev or the reduction of flights from other airlines amid their own financial difficulties.

And if you were a tad smarter, you would know that traffic will grow at TIA. Traffic will continue to grow globally and more so in developing countries like Albania. So while it might fall this year, the overall trend is def up, not down.


If you're referring to the fact that you showed me how retarded your whole thinking is, don't worry I already knew it.


Ok plako vazhdo bjeri dajres, se i bike mire.

rene1234
December 1st, 2012, 12:02 PM
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Grave Digger
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