Glasgow and Wiggley have done their rounds together, all is at one... ness... :)

If only we could calm down the other conficts:ohno:

we do not meddle in the affairs of the lower plains my friend :)

;)

Ahh, so that means I can turn my nose up at them then?:happy:

No more trying to be the Mother Theresa of SSC for me!

Indiekid are those you photos you have taken on the last page.:)

No, I'm not a good enough photographer dj;)

Hereford's got the best shopping streets I've been to in the UK. It's a nice small city to be in with wide, public space between plenty of shops. Beautiful cathedral, river etc and a number of markets and fresh food outlets. I'm looking for pictures

A few here

http://www.wyenot.com/hereford.htm

I was dissapointed with Hereford when I went there. That kind of town is just not my bag. I like my big gritty cities not postcard perfect cathedral/mediaeval cities. They are generally a bit :sleepy:

I did my foundation degree there and it was a nice place to be... for a year. Once you've walked down from the colleges and past all the roads, retail parks etc it's a pretty decent place. There's a park near the river just as good as the Quarry in Shrewsbury, and the shops are pleasant places. Are there Hereford forumers on here?

I was dissapointed with Hereford when I went there. That kind of town is just not my bag. I like my big gritty cities not postcard perfect cathedral/mediaeval cities. They are generally a bit :sleepy:

Yes, same.

My nearest city like that is York, about 35km away. Not a fan at all. Never seems to change; it's just preserved as it is, and any new development has to fit in rather than contrast and complement the old. I suppose that's what the tourists want though.

Chester as well. I occasionally get forced to go there by, er, someone close to me because it has a Habitat. What a miserable experience I always find it. Piddly little toy town streets, mock-tudor buildings, and a stomach-ulcerating air of smugness radiating from much of the population. No offence if anyone here is from Chester, but really, it's shit.

Chester as well. I occasionally get forced to go there by, er, someone close to me because it has a Habitat. What a miserable experience I always find it. Piddly little toy town streets, mock-tudor buildings, and a stomach-ulcerating air of smugness radiating from much of the population. No offence if anyone here is from Chester, but really, it's shit.

They probably aren't "mock-tudor" but the real thing!! You find mock-tudor buildings on 1980's housing estates :)

they are Victorian mock tudor!

Having said that, some of te rears in the buildings are original Elizabethan, but the fancy black and white stuff you see in Chester is all pure faux!

they are Victorian mock tudor!



Noooooo!! I've been tricked all these year!!!

Yup! I did use the term 'mock Tudor' knowing that it's more commonly applied to the type of houses that eighties footballers used to buy, but the fact is, Chester's Tudor stylings are Victorian fakery too!

Oh God don't get me started on mock Tudor. Shrewsbury anyone? For all it's brilliant genuine Tudor buildings, they've built such crap nearby to "fit in": A or B?

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Noooooo!! I've been tricked all these year!!!

:lol: sadly, yes!

Oh God don't get me started on mock Tudor. Shrewsbury anyone? For all it's brilliant genuine Tudor buildings, they've built such crap nearby to "fit in": A or B?

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That carbuncle is the biggest stain on the face of Shrewsbury. Give me the Market Hall any day over that tosh. The council offices are :puke: as well.

The council offices are the same as every other concrete turd in the country. At least they aren't trying to reflect the beauty of Shrewsbury's beautiful Tudor buildings... they're just plain ugly. I'd rather work in Cineworld than the council buildings.

How come that one never turned up on the Town Hall thread? :sly:

No not its tudor buildings but the old warehouses of Frankwell Quay. They're so boring though. I'd rather work in Cineworld too, or the rather bland out of town offices I'm currently in.

Are those the ones near the Driving Test Centre? Or are they in Shrewsbury Business Park?

Bachy... I have no idea ;)

Anyone noticed the date on the third 'original' :\ Is that a refurb or is that one bloody good mock tudor building.

Anyone noticed the date on the third 'original' :\ Is that a refurb or is that one bloody good mock tudor building.

What date? The Tudor part is real, hence the ridiculous angle of the building. Tourists are always taking photos of it. The interior and shop below have presumably been refurbed numerous times.

The date above the windows, 1988. Must be a restoration.

You've got good eyes! Your guess is as good as mine, but given the number of original Tudor buildings in the town; it's probably a restoration of a proper Tudor house/shop.

I love cathedral towns, they are picture perfect most of the time, but then if they had been redeveloped we would have another coventry! I liked hereford (even though it was raining). Each cathedral city has something different to offer, and classing them all in the same is a bit unfair IMO.

Cathedral cities are beautiful but somewhat dull.

^^ Cathedral cities never seem to change. I could go back to Hereford in a decade and nothing will be different. Regeneration's a chore in these places. They seem to pump all their money into hanging baskets, lawn mowers and cathedral maintenance.

lol exactly:lol: I prefer something a bit more dynamic:)

Are those the ones near the Driving Test Centre? Or are they in Shrewsbury Business Park?

Oxon business park near Shelton.

I agree they never change, they're just like museums and when something is new thats slightly different everyone has a fit. In Shrewsbury everyone went nuts because a 36m tall hotel was proposed in probably the lowest and ugliest areas of the town centre :ohno:

A small selection of shots what I've taken of Glasgow recently. Every shot, apart from the one in Kelvingrove, was taken on a street. (Do shots of city parks count as streetscape?)

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^^ Some of your flickr photos are excellent, you should pop one in the Photo Contest (next week) and see how it does!

Great pics Boy David, I'm not sure I'll be trying the Wee Curry though. Disgusting.

:lol: Arf

Des Lynam! Smooth.



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Looks more like Des Boswell.

Or Freddie Lynam.

quality!! Good stuff David :cheers:

this one is superb

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:lol: Toady. Where's 'Lilo 'Lil though? What's Liverpool's principal shopping street or is it L1 now?

you wrang...
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Stunning images Davey! As for park pics - I dont think it really matters now, but I would definitely say yes - everything you posted is wholly applicable :cheers:

Thanks very much folks :)

And lol @ Boards and Toadboy - never even noticed him, the cheeky scamp. I'm leaning towards Mr Lynam myself...

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Thanks Gherkin, I may just start entering the contests again, we shall see :).

Good man:cheers:

hope it is Des to be honest, last time I saw him on Sport Mastermind he looked close to death, at least if thats him there he's looking fit and healthy again

:lol: Toady. Where's 'Lilo 'Lil though? What's Liverpool's principal shopping street or is it L1 now?

It's probably South John Street which is the open air mall bit of Liverpool One but the whole area including Whitechapel, Church Street and Lord Street is very busy.

If there's a retail dominated street more impressive than Buchannan Street in the UK though, I haven't seen it. It's the fancy arcades that look like doorways and open up in to wonderful spaces that get me.

hope it is Des to be honest, last time I saw him on Sport Mastermind he looked close to death, at least if thats him there he's looking fit and healthy again

fit and healthy? Looks like hes been on the pies to me

Great shots there thanks :happy:

My favourite part of Buchanan Street has to be Princes Square, always reminds me of childhood:D

why, is that where yo momma use to stand on the street corner working her crack habit whilst rocking your pushchair?

^^ lol sorry, i couldnt resist

You've mistaken Buchanan Street for the Red Light District, thats Anderston, silly:lol:

No this is where my mum would try and emulate a Desperate Housewives lifestyle:lol:

You've mistaken Buchanan Street for the Red Light District, thats Anderston, silly:lol:

sorry, i get confused. every street i go to becomes a red light district ;)

You must have some cracker chat-up lines;)

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Nice post.

I found a great set of pics of Manchester. They're not exactly pretty scenes, but i think they're beautiful neways. :)

All the same photographer

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sorry for large post!

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Got that wandering restless feel of the marginal months. Added united scoring on TV for more effect!

Some of the pics remind me of Hamburg :yes:

goodstuff kids, this one is ace (I like the different style of bridges);-

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Two grand sets of pics there men. I see a TV pic of some rugby league club slipped in there though!



Love the picture of the 60s' tower terminating the Manc streetscape, but I have to say I just don't like that circular prom thing by the canal... too much Salford quays that destroys a fantastically intense urban landscape!
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Thing about those beautiful Glasgow pics is they remind you of the greater crime when so many of those types of buildings where demolished!!!!!

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A few night shots I took this evening.......

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From Ginger Tosser :)

Edit: excellent post^^

wasn;t sure where to post this, this will have to do:

Bristol's cast iron toilets - Ive never seen these, or even a reference to them before, anywhere, despite them being made at Glasgow's various foundries!
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Nothing like a good old fashioned cast iron pissoir ;)

Loved some of those Manchester pics - nothing wrong with showing the slightly rawer side of the city - it looks fantastic!

Those Brum shots were pretty damn impressive too!

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River/streetscape - The Clyde, west of the city centre:

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Looking back at the city centre (windy evening, telephoto lens didn't appreciate the gusts / flimsy tripod..)

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Those piccies of Brimingham are great but what´s that concrete monster doing there among all those beatiful buildings?

That concrete monster is a bit of controversial building. It has its fans and a quite a few of them. Its been recommended for listing by English heritage and the city council are trying to get an immunity from listing certificate. They plan to smash it down and create another (probably) Brindleyplace-esque area whether its listed or not which doesn't show their conservation instincts in a good light.

The extension to the Leeds Liverpool Canal. The new canal link at the Pier Head.

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The new canal links up princes dock with the albert dock under the new museum and mann island, both of which are under construction.
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if you walk 20 yards further west then there is an infinitely more inspiring piece of waterway!


Nice pics though Yoshef, good finds!




I hate narrowboats!

Its been recommended for listing by English heritage.

Seriously? It looks like shit.

EH are shit.

Most people do not want Birmingham Central Library to stay, most people think it is terrible.

:cheers:

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Nice pic, like the green contrast,

The Three Graces could do with a clean. Great picture though.

The Three Graces could do with a clean. Great picture though.

Two of them could -the other one has just been cleaned

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Liverpool is starting to get alot of things right IMO. that looks beautiful and was long due a clean (good to see the trees in the front as well ;) )

The trees have been there for some years. The road is Canada Boulevard!

The other two buildings have been cleaned as thoroughly as they can be.

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The Liver building was awe-inspiring when it was black.

It still needs cleaning, you can see gruby strips (or is that where rain has gotten on it?) The more i look at it the more architectural detail i can see.

Some questionable pics of MCR's alleyways !! (and other stuff)

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Like a maze. I'd welcome alley pics from other cities.

Kids, here's a picture of an alleyway in Mosside in the 80's. I've had it saved on my laptop for a while. I really like the pic for some reason.

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Here are some of Nottingham's alleyway's and tunnels. Some of them look quite nice.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=nottingham%20alleyways&w=all

That's a lovely pic stefan. Interesting to see we had american style trash-cans in the past (although what else would we have had.)

Kids, some of them pics look like New York - fire escapes, air con ducts, steam discharge and even a random chinese bloke taking stuff out back.

A nice Manchester backstreet view, courtesy of flickr poster zeroliberation

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Take away Beetham and it has a very central-eastern European look about it. The alleyways of Gdansk, Krakow or Vienna. :drool:

edit: you probably know but they've added loads of Manc to Live Local Birds eye view, but it's still quite patchy and the city centre still isn't on there but give it a few weeks and Manchester'll be on there properly I suspect. :yes:

I thought that. The yellow lines and bins ruin it a bit though! But I suppose it is just a backstreet =/ Could be a lot more though!

hardly a streetscape but I don't know where else to put this

curtosy of woody
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more of a wetscape... but nothing beats a busy river! ;)

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Like a maze. I'd welcome alley pics from other cities.

some mad alleys there kids, heres some i've found on flickr of Liverpool's alleyways.

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(i had quite a few in my bookmarks already so Im not as sad as you think :lol:)

Fantastic pics! I absolutely adore alleys, I wish my city had places like that.

I demand more pics :)

^^Cracking pics of Liverpool's alleys - especially like pics 7&8 - they're stunning! I'd imagine they'd be packed on a warm summers day.

^^Cracking pics of Liverpool's alleys - especially like pics 7&8 - they're stunning! I'd imagine they'd be packed on a warm summers day.

re: 7 & 8 I didn't even realise those pics where of somewhere in Liverpool myself to start off with as I don't recall ever seeing that avenue/alley to be honest, but they were tagged liverpool so i looked it up and yes its in town! Its called Queen Avenue and its off Castle Street I think, one of the other Liverpool forumers might be able to confirm that.

Fantastic pics! I absolutely adore alleys, I wish my city had places like that.

What Helsinki doesnt have alleys?

Yosh - you're correct. Queens Arcade is off Castle Street in the business district of the city. Highly recommend Toffs cafe as can be seen in the pic. Does some great food at lunch.

Has little Art shops, Odd bins - that type of stuff down there as well as plenty of little offices.

Yosh - you're correct. Queens Arcade is off Castle Street in the business district of the city. Highly recommend Toffs cafe as can be seen in the pic. Does some great food at lunch.

Has little Art shops, Odd bins - that type of stuff down there as well as plenty of little offices.

cheers ste, I'll have to pop down there sometime for a nosey :cheers:

There are some great ones between dale St and Tithebarn St as well!

Night time.

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Day time.

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What Helsinki doesnt have alleys?

Well, just a few in the tiny "old town" area. But I would rather call them narrow streets than alleys. Compared to other European cities Helsinki doesn´t have that many alleys though. Furthermore I really like the industrial look of alleys in the UK.

Pic I took last christmas. The streets in Helsinki don´t get much more narrow than this.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6628/img0667dn9.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0667dn9.jpg)http://img231.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Loving those liverpool back streets, not so much passages but propper streets.

fantastic night time pic there sandblast... very atmospheric!

Manchester is on virtual earth birdseye view and looking very fine!

the city centre isnt on yet tho is it?

Yes all of it, but only from the east to west axis. Also if you move just outside the city center it picks it up and then move into the center once its activated. Heres the proof:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/virtual1copy.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/virtual2.jpg

why is it in a white box? that doesnt happen on mine.

do you have like a humongous monitor or somat

Nice to see they've started adding places at last! Goes out to MediaCity and beyond too!

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5374/screenshotjl6.jpg

Nice. How do you get the really zoomed out version mate? Like it is in the second pic up?

scarier-than-usual alley by chris nicholson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisnicolson/):-
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1157/767465047_086fd14077_b.jpg
I would be interested in learning the significance of what looks like a dollar sign on the head stone in the above picture. Can anyone help?

Nice to see they've started adding places at last! Goes out to MediaCity and beyond too!


mmmm I wonder if the NSA ever get fed up of big bad unix h4x0r5 scanning their webserver for the sake of making their KDE desktop look cool? :tongue2:

mmmm I wonder if the NSA ever get fed up of big bad unix h4x0r5 scanning their webserver for the sake of making their KDE desktop look cool? :tongue2:

I wondered if anyone would notice that... such fun! You know is just wouldn't be a proper Linux screenshot without nmap! :lol:

I would be interested in learning the significance of what looks like a dollar sign on the head stone in the above picture. Can anyone help?

More likely a highly ornate letter S. Which is what the dollar sign is, of course.

Short for a family name, perhaps or something of religious significance? "Sacred to...", for example?

^ I've seen it before at Undercliffe Cemetery in Bradford, big old epic Victorian graveyard. I wondered also what an apparent dollar sign was doing on a gravestone. I think on closer inspection it did look to be an 'S' and possibly a 'H'. Guess this was some sort of tradition or design back then.

Actually found it now:

IHS

Sometimes looks like a dollar sign. IHS stands for the first three letters of Jesus' name in the Greek alphabet.

Here's another meaning for IHS, contributed by Jim Miller:

This symbol also stands for "in hoc signo", Latin for "by this sign we conquer", referring to the cross. It is actually more involved than that, and apparently also has some fraternal applications.

Here is the Wikipedia entry for this phrase:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_hoc_signo_vinces

http://www.graveaddiction.com/symbol.html

Ah, thanks Dan. I have a feeling it was something like that. And I think I've seen that IHS before. Perhaps on church school badges. Interesting stuff. Cheers!

Here it is in a church stained glas window:

http://www.grapevineartglass.net/images/stained_glass/IHS.jpg

^^ or he could be from St Helens ? ;)

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0012/7776/brand.gif


or it could be an ornate way of putting his last words on his grave... "SHIT!"

It's JHS or IHS and basically means Jesus Christ. You see it in churches all over.

Thanks guys, very informative.

To get the zoomed out version you have to select the 3d mode and then close the search box on the right and press F11 which will give you full screen, thats how i view it anyway. To zoom in and out use the mouse wheel.

Beautiful:drool: I salute you, I had no idea how to use that function. Respect.

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^^Got anymore you wanna share? :yes:

Don't want to steal the thunder but thought this was somewhat interesting:

(Flickr: Dogfael, Brizzle Born and Bred, Vegan fellow)

This
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To this
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To this

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3049613995_7630be3bee.jpg

It's rather Tardis like, would you believe. The first ''floor'' is quite a lofty height above the ground one and there's a further second floor (which you wouldn't know from the outside) above that with a tiny hole/balcony you can peer down on other diners like ceiling cat:shifty:

Cant believe that's england, looks like spain or something ^^

Looks very british to me sorry.

Theyre all amazing.

The only one I've not seen in the flesh is Glasgow which I expect will blow me away from the pictures I've seen. From the choices above, its difficult, but Manchester wins for me becasue there is so much quantity with the quality, although Birmingham has some amazing areas, Leeds too - Leeds incredible actually. Sheffield was a massive surprise to me when I first went there as it was so mcuh bettrre than I expected. And Newscastle! Just wow, street after street of fuckin wow!

Visited Oxford for the first time since school a few days ago... not surprisingly also wow!

Only a few cities have got the street as a whole sorted. meanign architecture, street furninshing, street surfacign and materials. A real winner is a mixed surface street where people and cars have shared priority. Newcastle's Grey Street is my big overall winner.

Oxford: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/3052704443_701d6f21e0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3052847110_2d2f5b5605_b.jpg

I went there the other week, and it's a lovely little square, and a vast improvement on what was there previously. I was a little disapointed because I thought the square (quakers friars right?) would be totally surrounded by restaurants in the development, which would have made for a great evening area in the summer, but alas, the Raymond Blanc is pretty much the only restaurant on the square.

Overall though, it's great, and I agree it looks Spanish.

^^Got anymore you wanna share? :yes:

Don't want to steal the thunder but thought this was somewhat interesting:

(Flickr: Dogfael, Brizzle Born and Bred, Vegan fellow)

This
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2072294186_b69f644483.jpg

To this
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To this

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/2891419346_3438371401.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3049613995_7630be3bee.jpg

It's rather Tardis like, would you believe. The first ''floor'' is quite a lofty height above the ground one and there's a further second floor (which you wouldn't know from the outside) above that with a tiny hole/balcony you can peer down on other diners like ceiling cat:shifty:

Looks stunning now. They've done a great job of it.



A new streetscape in Sheffield. There will be shops & bars around the bottom once complete.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg164/adamblade/231108/055.jpg

^^

You'd think that was somewhere like Manchester, London or Brum :drool:

What did that area look like before?

Re Quaker's Friars: so the Meeting House is now a restaurant, but what about the stone building behind it (also visible on the 1950's pic)?

Re streetscapes: I've always thought Baldwin street in Bristol is one of its more "city-like" streets . . .

Re Quaker's Friars: so the Meeting House is now a restaurant, but what about the stone building behind it (also visible on the 1950's pic)?

Apart of the restaurant, but a seperate area used for conferences, wedding receptions and the like :yes:


Re streetscapes: I've always thought Baldwin street in Bristol is one of its more "city-like" streets . . .

Well it's alright but it's filled with post-war (and newer) crud in the middle, but the building massing is ok though.

^^

You'd think that was somewhere like Manchester, London or Brum :drool:

What did that area look like before?

http://www.lucas-digital.com/images/sheffield/eggbox_before.jpg

http://citysnapper.org/dm/sheff1999/9912wedding.jpg

Both interesting buildings in their own right (although I loathed them), just in completely the wrong place...

Ah, the eggboxes! didn't realise it was that area.

yes indeed. a big change :)

^^ Have to admit I haven't seen them in person but looking at photographs those egg boxes really aren't that bad, just unloved and unfashionable. Whats the betting in 30 years time there will be a thread on SpaceScraper city lamenting the destruction of unusual and unique buildings like that.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/58/190916931_c0990f8806.jpg?v=0



Anyway enough of that! ;) Not a particularly impressive streetscape but I liked the picture!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/3051675179_f63a77a4df_b.jpg

Bloody To Let signs :no:

The brilliantly tacky Leeds Christmas German market in Millennium Square with K2 and the museum in the background:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/gherkin007/Leeds/DSCF0637.jpg

photo by me!

^^ Have to admit I haven't seen them in person but looking at photographs those egg boxes really aren't that bad, just unloved and unfashionable. Whats the betting in 30 years time there will be a thread on SpaceScraper city lamenting the destruction of unusual and unique buildings like that.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/58/190916931_c0990f8806.jpg?v=0


For me it wasn't so much the building as the utter grimness of the dark walkway underneath, complete with permanently dried up water 'feature'.

Leeds

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/3055395681_ce59678a36_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/3051963847_a087190891_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3051950055_c184d851de_b.jpg

You know Wiggles, its possible to post more than one pic in each post. They're prety good though.



Anyway enough of that! ;) Not a particularly impressive streetscape but I liked the picture!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/3051675179_f63a77a4df_b.jpg

I've said it before and I'll say it again but its criminal that this tower was left forever spire-less. It cries out for one similar to Fernsehturm's

http://liveberlin.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/liveberlin-0043-fernsehturm.jpg

I'm really not a fan of that eggbox building. Sometimes I hear people praise brutalist architecture, but in nearly every case I hate it.

Having said that, it has it's merits in that it has allowed cities to progress. Our cities, in many cases, would not have been able to welcome modern architecture alongside old without some demolition.

I've said it before and I'll say it again but its criminal that this tower was left forever spire-less. It cries out for one similar to Fernsehturm's

I know, nobody likes a stump, one day perhaps?
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Might as well...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/Calamariparty/DSC_0060-1.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/Calamariparty/DSC_0034.jpg

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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/Calamariparty/DSC_00442.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/Calamariparty/DSC_0062.jpg

^^:drool: A cut above.

Great pics Hel, what's that incredibly shiny building still U/C?

It's the Colston hall extension, dunno if you remember much of your trip to Brizzle but it's by the fountain area, it used to be like this (however, it may have been demolished by that time):


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/271738215_272c3f8521.jpg

It's a nice surprise really as I didn't have high hopes for this building, it's meant to turn a more copper-ish colour as it ages so it'll stay relatively shiny and not go all Verdigris on us :drool:

Might as well...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/Calamariparty/DSC_0060.jpg



I'd have put money on that being France if it wasn't for "taylor made" in big bold letters. Looking good.

It's the Colston hall extension, dunno if you remember much of your trip to Brizzle but it's by the fountain area, it used to be like this (however, it may have been demolished by that time):


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/271738215_272c3f8521.jpg

It's a nice surprise really as I didn't have high hopes for this building, it's meant to turn a more copper-ish colour as it ages so it'll stay relatively shiny and not go all Verdigris on us :drool:

I don't think I saw it, I surely would have remembered something that shiney. Either way its well impressive.

^^well it's only been like that for a few weeks! it was probably a big pile of debris when you visited I guess :yes:

I'd have put money on that being France if it wasn't for "taylor made" in big bold letters. Looking good.

If only *sigh* though I dunno why the url funked up :crazy: edit: it's ok now

Some pics of Hull:

http://i36.tinypic.com/1zlym2t.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/5ed8w6.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/m3v34.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/amd0l1.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2irwv2d.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/14mti5u.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2jcugl3.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/fa0g7l.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/k9w9rl.jpg

that last pic is great, though the modern but 'in keeping' buildings let the scene down!

^^ crackin pix

Love them pics of Hull.

^I second that.

Best present Santascape? Not a single present in sight though! Photos by ijob (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/) on flickr.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3093444396_95dfefc8cf_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/3092599109_12fded5b3d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/3096060136_b52c653bec_b.jpg

I guess that would explain how father Christmas manages to give all those presents in just one night.

I guess that would explain how father Christmas manages to give all those presents in just one night.

can you spot the evil Blue Santas?

So that's what you're calling Everton fans now? ;)

So that's what you're calling Everton fans now? ;)

they are! Some of our blue friends take this red vs blue thing far too seriously!

Where's Wally?

Just wondering why London, Edinburgh and Oxford aren't mentioned? They seem like obvious choices! I voted for other city based on this.

It seems in the city talk section London is always excluded. Threads like this one would be useless if it wasn´t.

No one has paid attention to the poll or original question (the thread was started 2 and a half years ago) in donkeys years, people just post nice pics of their respective cities. Just a f-y-i.

Ok, I understand. I'm obviously way behind the times!:ohno:
Would this be an appropriate place to post my pics of Dublin's streetscape seeing as it's the uk...... and ireland forum?

Ok, I understand. I'm obviously way behind the times!:ohno:
Would this be an appropriate place to post my pics of Dublin's streetscape seeing as it's the uk...... and ireland forum?

Don't think anybody would complain :okay:

Love Dublin, think its far and away better than any large provincial UK city. It's like a mini London but without many of the drawbacks of living in London.

Subliving.

Yes I don't really know why Dublin wasn't in this poll originally anyway.

Bachy has alot to answer for!

Ok, I understand. I'm obviously way behind the times!:ohno:
Would this be an appropriate place to post my pics of Dublin's streetscape seeing as it's the uk...... and ireland forum?

Of course :yes:

Love Dublin, think its far and away better than any large provincial UK city.Me too but, I can mention at least two UK provincial cities that would give Dublin a run. Never the less I agree that not to many UK cities, outside of London, can match it.

Love Dublin, think its far and away better than any large provincial UK city. It's like a mini London but without many of the drawbacks of living in London.

Subliving.


I beg to differ... the beer is EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE!

Bachy has alot to answer for!



I'm just a naughty boy.

Me too but, I can mention at least two UK provincial cities that would give Dublin a run. Never the less I agree that not to many UK cities, outside of London, can match it.

Well, considering it has a population smaller than Leeds, I'd say it's doing pretty damn well. It's a great streetscape, architecture, cafe culture, bar culture, nightlife vibe, etc, etc, etc, lovely place to be.

As for the beer being more expensive, are you sure? I found it to be quite cheap!

Subliving.

Well, considering it has a population smaller than Leeds, I'd say it's doing pretty damn well. It's a great streetscape, architecture, cafe culture, bar culture, nightlife vibe, etc, etc, etc, lovely place to be.

As for the beer being more expensive, are you sure? I found it to be quite cheap!

Subliving.

Population per se hasn't got anything to do with it, it's all about history. :yes:

Well, obviously! It was just a point I was making that biggest doesn't always mean best.

Subliving.

Hmm, interesting topic there. I have to say since I moved to Dublin from Oslo during my teens in the late 90's I think the streetscape has declined due to greater traffic and pollution. Also, we're a bit obsessed by the suburbs, sea, lakes and mountains on our doorstep, so the city centre is unfortunately overlooked as some sort of regrettable necessity. I think that regional cities in the UK have been making far more of an effort on restoration and rejuvenation than Dublin, which is a great pity for the city. Hopefully one day we'll learn from regional cities in the UK and capitals of continental Europe and look after what we have better.
Pictures to come. I have loads now, so hopefully I wont spam the thread!
P.S I have to agree with subliving that Dublin does have a bit of a mini-londonish feel about it.

here's the pics I took on my phone (sorry if quality isn't the best) These ones are from the Grafton street/ Stephen's Green area of the city.


Wicklow Street
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South William Street
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South King Street
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Suffolk Street
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South Anne Street with Saint Anne's in the background
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Alley way off Clarendon St.
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Duke street
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Chatham street
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George's arcade
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Dawson street
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Stephen's Green north
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Mansion House (lord mayor's residence)
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Luas on the green (west side)
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Inside the green with the Unitarian church in the background
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Shelbourne
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Stephen's Green east
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8452/mypics10sa6.jpg




Hope I haven't spammed the thread. Have loadsa pics of dub on my phone, so plenty more to come!:)

I warned you that there's more to come, so here's a few more pics from my ventures around dublin. These are from parliament square, dublin castle and christchurch areas.




Campanile and Memorial hall, Parliament Square Trinity
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The Campanile and Library, Parliament square
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Parliament Square
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Parliament Square
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Harcourt Street
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Harcourt Street tram stop
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Fitzwilliam
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Masonic Hall, Molesworth Street
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Government Buildings
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Christchurch Cathedral
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East Essex Street
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Fishamble Street
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East Essex Street
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Parliament Street
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City Hall from Parliament street
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Dublin Castle
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Dublin Castle
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Dublin Castle
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Saint Patrick's cathedral under scaffolding
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8421/a5er6.jpg

So basically Dublin would have won this poll had it been an option.

I like Dublin and agree about the London feel. It's got a capital buzz to it despite it's small size. I love how the Liffey is outlined by the busy streets, and I really like Phoenix Park.

But I think many of Dublin's merits have been built up over history naturally, rather than Dublin actually making an effort to have a good streetscape as UK Regional cities have. Although now Dublin and Ireland as a whole is putting money into it's cities and transport networks and it's paying off; a high quality streetscape for a vibrant city.

And finally, my last set of pics! I took the first few, but I've added more taken from panoramio credited to others because I didn't include pictures of college green, o'connell street and the river because I didn't have the time.












Custom House
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Grand Canal Dock
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River Liffey quay
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Custom House Quay
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Dublin Port
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Bachelor's walk
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O'Connell bridge
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O'Connell Street
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General Post Office
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Spire from Henry Street (low budget shopping street)
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http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3121/aa25pj7.jpg
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Bank of Ireland, College Green
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College Green
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Foster Place
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Dame Street
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Temple Bar streetscape
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Temple Bar
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Temple Bar
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The Four Courts (dublin's main courthouse)
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Dublin Castle
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by Daniel Meyer


























Dublin Castle
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by gabijm76



























Four Courts
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1146/aa27nn5.jpg
by Mariusz Gandzel

Some great pics there :drool: I wonder if Dublin is probably what a naiive foreign tourist pictures London to be like...

So basically Dublin would have won this poll had it been an option.

I doubt it seeing as most people voted for their own cities, (they could have just voted other)



But I think many of Dublin's merits have been built up over history naturally, rather than Dublin actually making an effort to have a good streetscape as UK Regional cities have. Although now Dublin and Ireland as a whole is putting money into it's cities and transport networks and it's paying off; a high quality streetscape for a vibrant city.

mmm-
I'm not sure what you mean by that, do you mean lack of investment of the public realm in recent times?

So basically Dublin would have won this poll had it been an option.


Well, I guess the original focus was on the UK rather than the UK and Ireland, so I guess it makes sense that Dublin wasn't included in the original poll.

I spent so long taking the bloody pictures that I needed to show them off somewhere, so this thread seemed like a suitable place within the UK and Ireland forum.


I have to admit the shots are fairly selective, unfortunately there's a lot of grot in the city centre as well, especially on the northside. I have to say I do envy the enthusiasm about rejuvenation in regional cities in the UK. While you're right about money being spent on transport Leeds No.1, very little is spent on asthetics and public spaces compared to other comparable cities! People here simply don't care if the city looks like a bit of a mess, there seems to be alot more pride in cities in the UK and overseas compared to here!

Great set of pics nordisk celt, thanks for sharing them. :cheers: The quayside Customs House looks stunning, must be a sight at night.


I stumbled across this picture of Liverpool on Flickr by Fernallan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernallan/), thought it was interesting enought o post here :cheers:

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I'm not sure what you mean by that, do you mean lack of investment of the public realm in recent times?

Pretty much; Dublin has largely relied on the public spaces it has always had where as UK cities; Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield particularly, have invested in public realm heavily with lots of new squares, new street furniture and repaved streets.

yeah, customs house at night is amazing, but it really doesn't have the nicest surroundings!


Here's one at night for posterity, I actually have it as my desktop!:)


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But, as I said its context isn't the best. Lots of horrible stumpy midrises, which takes away from the building!

there's the infamous "canary dwarf" straight accross from it.
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Nice building, not so nice context!

But I think many of Dublin's merits have been built up over history naturally, rather than Dublin actually making an effort to have a good streetscape as UK Regional cities have. Although now Dublin and Ireland as a whole is putting money into it's cities and transport networks and it's paying off; a high quality streetscape for a vibrant city.

Plus from the looks of it very little looks to have been swept away in the redevelopment of the 60s and 70s which happened so much elsewhere, largely due to bomb damage i know but still lovely streets like those in Dublin, albeit a little more run down would have been replaced by a concrete office block or something. And all this in the name of progress??!!

Love those photos. Dublin would win it for me too.

As for the beer being more expensive, are you sure? I found it to be quite cheap!



You must be doing well for yourself for 6-9 Euros a pint to seem good! (Especially in the current exchange rate),

Wow Dublin looks fantstic! I hear the nightlife over there is also one of the best in Europe.

I found it to be 3-5 euro for a pint when I was there, admittedly two years ago now though, so things have probably changed since then.

Subliving.

As a resident of the city I'd say that on average a pint is around €5 and may vary between €4.25 and €6.50. There's a price freeze on alcohol for the next year too, due to the recession:cheers:! I read somewhere recently that it's the second richest city in the world in terms of average income(and also has lowest taxes in europe), so I guess it's hardly surprising things are so expensive. It's def cheaper than London and Nordics like Copenhagen and Oslo. It's extortionate compared to most cities though!:ohno:
http://www.citymayors.com/economics/richest_cities.html


In relation to UK cities, I'm surprised Newcastle hasn't been mentioned much. Was very surprised at how great the architecture was when I visited. Glasgow and Leeds stand out among the ones mentioned above, for me!

Having visited Dublin, I'd describe it as boring, cheesey and drab. It has that "any European city" feel to it. It lacks character and soul. It has that Brussels-esque quality of being basically inoffensive but also completely lacking any substance. It is alright for two days (at least a quarter of which must be spent in the Guiness museum), but any longer than that and you soon realise every street looks the same.

Hen-do town. Eurocrap. brap brap.

Nice lamp post btw...

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How can you describe somewhere as 'any European city' when Europe has more diversity in it's 10,000,000km2 than any other continent on Earth? Every European country and in turn their cities are full of different people speaking different languages living in radically different cities architecturally.

What he meant was that there are lots of towns across Europe that have that 'samey' feel to them. He did not say all towns in Europe are identical.

You can't see straight when it comes to posts about Europe, can you?

Why so fanatical?

Personally I've always found Dublin to have a character which is quite distinct.:)

What he meant was that there are lots of towns across Europe that have that 'samey' feel to them. He did not say all towns in Europe are identical.


Thanks. That is precisely what I meant.

Europe does, of course, have some of the finest cities in the world. Lots of them. Dublin isn't one of them though. It doesn't even beat some UK provincial cities like Glasgow, Liverpool and Newcastle when it comes to character and charm.

Dublin is v. nice. 5 illusionary pics of manc by the same photographer.

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I found it to be 3-5 euro for a pint when I was there, admittedly two years ago now though, so things have probably changed since then.

Subliving.

Yeah - unfortunately it's pretty horrific now for price. It'll be interesting to see how they fare charging so much with the economic downturn.

Having visited Dublin, I'd describe it as boring, cheesey and drab. It has that "any European city" feel to it. It lacks character and soul. It has that Brussels-esque quality of being basically inoffensive but also completely lacking any substance. It is alright for two days (at least a quarter of which must be spent in the Guiness museum), but any longer than that and you soon realise every street looks the same.

Have you ever been to Brussels? It´s far from boring. Brussels is an architecturaly extremely diverse city and it never looks the same. I have never been to Dublin but your comparsion with Brussles was poor.

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Have you ever been to Brussels? It´s far from boring. Brussels is an architecturaly extremely diverse city and it never looks the same. I have never been to Dublin but your comparsion with Brussles was poor.


Totally agree! Whatever about Dublin, it can rely on its nice suburbs and beautiful natural surroundings to get it by in terms of character and charm, but Brussels' old town is definitely one of Europe's architectural treasures. Lived there for a year; the view from monte des artes has to be one of the most beautiful skylines in Europe, and La Grand Place at night is just magical.

Having visited Dublin, I'd describe it as boring, cheesey and drab.lacking any substance.


You just described most British cities there! :lol:

I stumbled across this picture of Liverpool on Flickr by Fernallan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernallan/), thought it was interesting enought o post here :cheers:

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:lol: Nice one - that's my left ear and shoulder and a slice of my head, over there on the extreme right of the frame!

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:lol: Nice one - that's my left ear and shoulder and a slice of my head, over there on the extreme right of the frame!

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superb finds crusty! Such a beautiful city.

what about london?

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Good streetscape. It really annoys me how they call it winterfest in Glasgow though.

Cheers Crusty:D

I really like some of those apartments in the Gorbals, I'll need to pay a visit.:)

You got enough photos there crusty? ;)

I feel like it's a bit of a weak effort now adding just this one...

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There were some nice views from the top of this:

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(I think!) in last nights Rab C. Nesbit.

You would have thought Glasgow's Catholic Cathedral would have been a bit bigger... Ho hum!\

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I'm suprised there wasn't a 20c Liverpool styleé mines bigger than yours building of a new Cathedrial. Maybe they just let the football do the talking? :dunno:

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I've always loved Glasgow Cathedral, very evil looking, and I mean that in the best way possible.:cheers:

I have been inside Glasgow Cathedral and it certainly has a more gothic and 'evil' (as people here describe) feel to it. Quite an imposing place. The museum across the road is quite nice too.

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^^ Really reminds me of Dale Street in Liverpool. In fact a few of those shots reminded me of liverpool. Think Glasgow > All bar London when it comes to streetscapes.

Do you not think there is a bit of delusion with London? Yes there are lots of nice buildings but it's all proportionate to size. London has endless collections of ugly buildings like all cities.

Didnt know where else to put these of Arundel

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These from cardiff are not street scapes buddy!

Really anyway.

Yicup. I'm sure everyones been there.

I think they are pretty representative of the streetscape of Arundel, as i said there was no better forum for them. Also most of them are taken from the streets of Arundel, so how are they not streetscapes (excluding the one from a field)?

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^^Oops, I just posted those on the best christmas lights thread kyle ;)

I meant to post this a while ago since I love the photo. A new development in the East End.



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I love how the ornate old contrasts with the minimalist new.

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Thought I'd post a few of my fave Newcastle ones from another thread:

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Looking at those pictures you can see what is a good streetscape and what is just a street with nice / great buildings on it. (those pictures representing the former).

Bath

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^great georgian gorgeousness

nice pic of newcastle's quayside from tult on flickr - the light, the street's angle and the steelwork of the bridge in the background make it look like a movie set:
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outrageous opinion:

Newcastle>Bath

outrageous opinion:

Newcastle>Bath

nah, too much modern crap in Newcastle, though it can make for interesting contrast.

the cutting edge warehouses under the bridges. it's such a compelling image: that last pic esp, the diffusing sunlight the general uneasy feeling, it's just beautiful. bath is dull and frank.

Areas under Manhattan bridge:

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Castlefield (no warehouse but still neither here nor there)

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Bath is anything but dull! Especially due to its large foreign student population and unrestricted buskers

Bath is anything but dull! Especially due to its large foreign student population and unrestricted buskers

people say the same about Edinburgh when in fact it is very vibrant. edinburgh's dense urban fabric of tenements makes for more exciting, varied and active neighbourhoods than the english equivalent of terraced housing (or worse). Some parts of Edinburgh's city-centre, Princes Street or the touristy Royal Mile, can sometimes seem a tad dull and lack the vibrancy of other british city centres, but thats simply because the action is elsewhere.

some people confuse new architecture with vibrancy but new builds are often sanitised, exclusive apartments for young wankers, or boring office blocks for worker drones. i cant think of anything more dull! a better correlation (though still misleading) would be the density of the built environment and edinburgh (and even bath) scores highly on that count.

Newcastle confuses me. There is much great architecture in that city, but nothing seems to happen at street level. Where are all the cafes, pubs and restaurants and more importantly where are all the people?

I dont think we get the best pictures of Newcastle on this thread (sorry to posters). I dont think ive ever seen a full thread where the picture are taken in complete sunshine.

I'll have a look and post them in the Uk and Europe one photo a day forums and here.

Newcastle confuses me. There is much great architecture in that city, but nothing seems to happen at street level. Where are all the cafes, pubs and restaurants and more importantly where are all the people?

there's a ridiculous amount of pubs in Newcastle, it's probably one of the biggest party-cities in europe. but you only see the crowds related to this activity at night. the quayside for instance, can be pretty dead by the day, but on a friday night there will be literally thousands of people out to the extent that pedestrians take over the streets and cars have a difficult time negotiating the traffic.

there's a good amount of cafes but outdoor terraces are very very rare, maybe that's to do with the climate. Jesmond, the poshest inner-city suburb, has an entire street filled with the outdoor terraces of cafes and bars.

also, the main shopping area is a bit further north from the georgian section of the city-centre, so the main crowds are around there. related to this, a lot of the shopping is interiorised in the Eldon Square mall, a pathetic and ugly monolith that wiped away dozens of old streets and squares. incredibly this mall is in the process of being extended - it seems we've learned little from past errors. :ohno:

Hi JPD,

I know its not really the place for it but could you tell me the plans for Eldon Square, please don't let them be eating into any more of Grainger Town. Eldon Square is one of the most horribly ugly mazes I have been to, like having a shopping centre in a a cavern, it should be demolished not extended.