Is replacing.Ha whats taken them so long?

When it comes to public realm British cities are seriously lagging behind other European cities (see the links I posted).Now why is that?Its a serious question and not an attempt to diss Britain.

This country has some fantastic architecture but instead of showing it off like other countries it hides it behind clutter and other rubbish.

The reason is that the motor car has enjoyed absolute hegemony for at least the last 50 years in British cities. In some cities this has meant historic buildings and neighbourhoods being demolished for motorways to be built through their central area's relegating humans to underpasses and bridges. It's no wonder public spaces have been degraded.

You get a street with no cars you immediately lose the need for traffic lights, no entry signs, one way signs, parking signs, filtter signs, pavements, parking bays, crash barriers and the rest of the rubbish that clutters up streets.

Coupled with the above British cities are only just reversing almost a centuries worth of neglect and attempting to diminish the (mostly) negative effects of post war planning . If you think it's bad now look at pictures of UK cities in the 1970's and early 80's.

I prefer to think about the public realm improvements that are taking place in cities such as Mcer, Liverpool, Belfast, Cardiff etc which for the most part are working towards delivering the streets back to the people.

I dont think British cities are lagging behind our European counterparts.

Take a look at the pics I posted.From top to bottom - Malaga (more or less your typical Spanish resort) would you find streets as clean and clutter free in any British resort?Nope.Granada - again beautiful clutter free street wont find anything similar in Oxford Cambridge or Durham.Bilbao - an industrial city and the same story again.

Or lets take Brugges and Bath.Both cities have some amazing architecture but you will not see battered railings clutter coloured asphalt congestion or shabby pavements in Brugges.It has constructed ring roads and underground garages to make most of its inner city traffic/car free.There are no tacky shop fronts or ugly sattelite dishes.Most of its inner city is either pedestrian or shared surface.It invests heavily in public realm and so on.Bath looks like a freaking slum in comparison.

We could also take infrastructure - another field where Britain is lagging.....I suppose Karldiff is right its all because of the car.....

There is talk of pedestrianising Deangate in Manc,it must be nearly a mile in length and would make a great European style street with more trees planted and some quality paving.It already has quite a few pavement cafes and these would be more enjoyable to use if it where not for the traffic. Come on MCC... fuck car users and get it done asap
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Take a look at the pics I posted.From top to bottom - Malaga (more or less your typical Spanish resort) would you find streets as clean and clutter free in any British resort?Nope.Granada - again beautiful clutter free street wont find anything similar in Oxford Cambridge or Durham.Bilbao - an industrial city and the same story again.

Or lets take Brugges and Bath.Both cities have some amazing architecture but you will not see battered railings clutter coloured asphalt congestion or shabby pavements in Brugges.It has constructed ring roads and underground garages to make most of its inner city traffic/car free.There are no tacky shop fronts or ugly sattelite dishes.Most of its inner city is either pedestrian or shared surface.It invests heavily in public realm and so on.Bath looks like a freaking slum in comparison.

We could also take infrastructure - another field where Britain is lagging.....I suppose Karldiff is right its all because of the car.....

Its always annoyed me this about the UK ,it seems cost cutting is always the no1 priority. I have been to Cities in so called poor counties like Croatia (Zagreb,Split) and even here the paving and street furniture(what there is of the latter) in their cities centres is higher qaulity than the UK. You come back here and you see that cheap crap red and black herringbone style brick paving covered with chewing gum in most town centres coupled with the generic fake victorana black and gold street clutter. How shit are we.We cant even get the street lighting consistant.

There is talk of pedestrianising Deangate in Manc,it must be nearly a mile in length and would make a great European style street with more trees planted and some quality paving.It already has quite a few pavement cafes and these would be more enjoyable to use if it where not for the traffic. Come on MCC... fuck car users and get it done asap

Notice, despite the pavement being rebuilt/widened, and pedestrians having supposed absolute priority over all other modes (on paper), the road/traffic still dominates with a wide 2/3/4 lane layout (depending where on Deansgate)?

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Liverpool - Ropewalks area

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Notice, despite the pavement being rebuilt/widened, and pedestrians having supposed absolute priority over all other modes (on paper), the road/traffic still dominates with a wide 2/3/4 lane layout (depending where on Deansgate)?

Exactly, If Deansgate ever got fully pedestrianised it would become a fantastic area,the Ramblas of the north:).The area where spiningfields meets deansgate could become a large piazza.A fountain feature could be put in the middle for example ,how great would this look with the modern archetecture of spinningfields and the rylands library building as backdrop. I hate the Uk's obsession with cars.

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Exactly, If Deansgate ever got fully pedestrianised it would become a fantastic area,the Ramblas of the north:).The area where spiningfields meets deansgate could become a large piazza.A fountain feature could be put in the middle for example ,how great would this look with the modern archetecture of spinningfields and the rylands library building as backdrop. I hate the Uk's obsession with cars.

La Rambla has four lanes of traffic, which adds to the buzz and vibrancy of that particular street. It's perfectly possible for vehicles and pedestrians to co-exist, it's just a matter of good design. The bottom end of St Mary Street in Cardiff for example now has wide pavements, with single stage pedestrian crossings at grade with the pavement made out of granite blocks. There's still a load of buses that go past but it manages to feel like pedestrians have an equal right to be there.

I know we lack the grand boulevards of many European cities, but I actually get a bit annoyed by the tendency of planners in this country to just go for complete pedestrianisation as the answer to everything. More often than not this just frustrates people with legitimate business in the city, and creates bland, plain streetscapes which are dead late at night.

Yeah but those 4 lanes are extremely narrow and more importantly run down the edge of the street. It actually creates quite a narrow pavement on the shopfront side, which wouldn't be an ideal model for Oxford Street.

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Those are quite nice looking houses (those in the foreground, not the ones with the soil stack on the front), certainly the best I've seen from photographs posted on here from around Leeds. Is there much of that style housing around that area?

Got a few pics. I'll post them later cos I'm in a rush at the moment but here's one for now. Needs resizing first so there's the link:
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Those are quite nice looking houses (those in the foreground, not the ones with the soil stack on the front), certainly the best I've seen from photographs posted on here from around Leeds. Is there much of that style housing around that area?

It's mostly typical victorian gothic around there as far as housing stock goes, though the best places to look (assuming they're Georgian) for that style is near(ish) to the Uni.

Plank007 has succeeded in making me want to pay Belfast a visit and get to know it a bit. I went to Dublin a few times as a child (family) but I've never been to Belfast.

The biggest problem with most British towns and cities is:

We, as a nation, stuff our increasingly fat, greasy faces with sweets, crisps, Coke, KFC, McDonalds and Burger King, then dump it on the street like animals. And, we chew gum and spit it out on the pavement.

A lot of American cities have an issue with litter and gum. It's no surprise - they're fat bastards too. Indeed, they started the whole thing.

Most of Europe doesn't eat junk like we do, and don't snack on the go like we do, they tend to think it uncooth. As a result, litter is not as huge a problem for their civic authorities as it is for ours.

It's mostly typical victorian gothic around there as far as housing stock goes, though the best places to look (assuming they're Georgian) for that style is near(ish) to the Uni.

cheers

A couple of Sheffield!

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Im in Tokyo at the moment and there is NO litter at all. Nowhere, not seen a single piece. Their streetscape seems to work however with little (if any) pedestrianisation, in fact getting across the street here is a daunting task. Super Crossings (shibuya for example) help a lot but I can't help but feel this is a Car dominated city. Some streets even have Expressways running 50ft above them on stilts. I think Tokyo gets away with it because all the flashy lights and signs make you look up rather than down?

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It was suggested this would be better on this thread than the skyline thread - so here it is:

Liverpool

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jacaranda - top pub :)

For the name alone!

It was suggested this would be better on this thread than the skyline thread - so here it is:

Liverpool

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That doesn´t look very nice. A grotesque highway cutting through the city centre. Parking lot on one side and car park on the other. Surely a great city like Liverpool can do better than this?

The building on the left (The Capital) is a 440,000 sq ft office blob with its own car park. The bag o' shite to the right is a hotel with surface parking to the rear. The Capital is supposed to be getting tarted up (probably put back until economic recovery), but the shite hotel will stay as a reminder of how desperate Liverpool was for investment in the 1990's, and the kind of shite that was allowed to be built.

That doesn´t look very nice. A grotesque highway cutting through the city centre. Parking lot on one side and car park on the other. Surely a great city like Liverpool can do better than this?

To be fair,this is the shittest part of the CBD,

It should be turned into a nice boulevard, our planners seem quite happy with the way it is though!

That road takes the space that used to contain two roads, the overhead ralway AND two big blocks of warehouses, the Goree Piazzas!

Despite the improvements that could be made, that is a great urban picture!

It should be turned into a nice boulevard, our planners seem quite happy with the way it is though!

That road takes the space that used to contain two roads, the overhead ralway AND two big blocks of warehouses, the Goree Piazzas!

It can be done quite easily too, theres a 6 lane road between Tokyo Station and the Imperial Palace that manages to fit in quite well and be quite pedestrian friendly :s Ill post some pics later.

Some pics of Bristol (the good bits at least... the shite parts... well who needs to see that? :shifty:) from Bristolmike's thread:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=625979&highlight=bristol&page=29
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Broadmead, Old market & Temple

Granted the area is generaly quite fugly there's actually quite a few post war buildings that when viewed in isolation are alright looking.

Primark recently opened in the previous House of Fraser building which has actually turned out to be a rather decent refurb.
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Oldmarket (and west street) used to be one of the city's main drags but declined because of the usual suspects. It's improved a lot in the past 5-6 years though and there's some rather nice architecture along it too.

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It's mediocre I know but I quite like the latest part to be built along Temple Quay.

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Clifton

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Ooh, I know a song about that!
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On Topic alert!!
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as found by Djay, respec'.

nice selection there de-helium, quite a mix. Bristol looks fantastic in places, I will visit, one day, in the near future. Hopefully.

Those narrow streets in Bristol look fantastic.

I've always thought Brisol was great. Even tarted up and gentrified, it still has a certain quality, a character, like you could be shanghai'd at any moment.

The west country does it right"

a few of ecclesall road today


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Whereabouts is that road in relation to the city centre?

about a 10 minute walk


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That's a mighty fine picture!

Still, twenty-five years later I still expect a air burst over it.

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Shudder...

Liverpool - Queens Arcade

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^^ Blimey, what an impact that had at our school. No wonder all my creative writing stories involved total and utter nuclear annililation. Mr Marshall must surely have got fed up of writing "Another depressing tale Damon" in red pen.

EDIT: Ha, I was of course referring to Awayo's post about Threads, rather than that picture of Queens arcade in Liverpool...

The difference between Britain in the early 80s and post nuclear attack in that film doesn't seem that great... :shifty:

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superb^^

Some Glasgow

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Merchant City area, Glasgow
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Trongate, and no pictures of 'Weens World'? :ohno:

:lol: just for you then, sunshine - the Trongate

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by
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wean n Scot.child. Derived from the colloquial Scots "wee 'un" (little one).

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Almost complete Hayes

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Bath

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Dublin, Glasgow, Cardiff & bath all looking very clean and beautiful! :banana: Can't fault any of the pics.

youtube clip of a few of Liverpool's Georgian streets

ju9HMCG1BWI

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What's the frogs name? It's cute.

Sheffield, because it has lots of squares and parks (more than any European city). And fantastic architecture at street level, ie benches.

Sheffield Street Art:
http://www.photodays.co.uk/galleries/sheffield/moor/sheffield201.html
The Moor Sign, one of two (this one is at Moorhead).

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/13784909.jpg
Moorfoot Sculpture, made of Crucible steel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LeopoldSquare_5b.JPG
Leopold Square sign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LeopoldSquare_fountain.JPG
Leopold Square water feature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Millennium_Sq.jpg
Steel balls in front of the Millenium (Winter) Gardens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sheffield_Station_from_Sheaf_Square.jpg
Sheaf Square water feature, The Cutting Edge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HolberryCascade.jpg
One of the cascades at the Peace Gardens, appatently called the Holberry Cascade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PcGdns2062.jpg
The fountains at the Peace Gardens.

http://hitchwiki.org/en/File:Parksquaresheffield.jpg
Supertram Bridge, Park Square.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SheffieldWheel01.jpg
The Wheel of Sheffield, Fargate.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14161400.jpg
Barker’s Pool fountains and war memorial.

Best present streetscape




I'll upload more images when I find them (they're hard to come by!).

God's strongly hinting something here. :|

OK I'm done.

Okay, then, search for Leopold Square in Google Images. You get tonns of garbage, and you have to go through at least 10 pages to get a decent image.

Oops, images are too big! I think I'll just post links to them instead.

EDIT: Done.

Hmm. Them pics don't really do any justice for Sheffield. Makes it look dull and dated and even slightly dilapidated - which it isn't. Seen far better. Here are a few I like:

http://i48.tinypic.com/213gb68.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/oiru5u.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2jb1q4w.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/148kjmt.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vd1rad.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/96aru9.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/25u3ymb.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/r08tts.jpg

financial district

http://media.rightmove.co.uk/41k/40944/40944_LP393_IMG_00_0000.JPG

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488#
...

Thanks for posting.

... On seconds thoughts, I sort of wish I hadn't watched it.

some pictures of Castle Street,

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/2254468571_edd68985d5_b.jpg
Mr Simmo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/simmo29/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/187522134_699122c4a6_b.jpg
scouserred1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53289190@N00/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3753012270_1f03fdfaa3_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/3752163809_52914ded19_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2636130078_bc98bf64db_b.jpg
feelinglistless (http://www.flickr.com/photos/feelinglistless/)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/3889839138_74d3ea01af_b.jpg


yes, we know, the town hall needs a clean :dunno:

... On seconds thoughts, I sort of wish I hadn't watched it.

Jesus. I was around 12 when I first saw 'Threads'. It completely and utterly terrified me, profoundly so. Haunted me afterwards. Production wise, it's dated of course, but it is still a powerful, brutal, shocking, no holds barred piece of television.

some of nottingham

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Looking good!

Nottingham looks fab. I can appreciate why you're making the comparison Wiggley, and as a collection they're fantastic, but comparing the whole of Nottingham to one street is only reinforcing why I like Castle Street so much - the concentration of scale and quality.

Water St is by far the best street in Liverpool

Water St is by far the best street in Liverpool


the architecture is superb no doubting that, but i've already bagsied Martins Bank and exchange flags for the views on castle street ;)

I think Aberdeen is worth a mention. There are some impressive buildings (particularly granite) throughout the city.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2831772106_f7c2d60b71.jpg
http://two.archiseek.com/wp-content/gallery/uk-scotland-aberdeen/playhouse_lge.jpg

the architecture is superb no doubting that, but i've already bagsied Martins Bank and exchange flags for the views on castle street ;)

fair enough, they do rather set the scene!

Liverpool Business district New Year's Day
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/189/044iu.jpg


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http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4337/057ag.jpg

Some excellent pics there cambrian, they got me thinking though. In the mid 80s' Liverpool streets where that deserted during the 'rush hour' on a normal week day (only slight exageration). It used to be like Moscow in the 60s'.. all wide boulevards with no fucking traffic on them!

Agree with you there Tony, It can still be quiet at weekends and evenings,
but at least now there's a resident population and more restaurants opening up.

A few more

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http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2712/069px.jpg

Aye, it used to break my heart, as I could remember just twenty years earlier, when I was growing up and impressionable, the city being a mad, vibrant and bustling metropolis, pavements chock full of people all the way out to the suburbs etc.


It is good to see the city finally begin to pick itself upagain after 20 years of meltdown.

this area of town has definately changed

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4260824882_8b9086acf7_o.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4257364966_af719f5bc3_o.jpg

You call that 'best present streetscape'? Oh dear.....

You call that 'best present streetscape'? Oh dear.....


To be fair, I think this thread turned into a showcase rather than a competition long ago

You call that 'best present streetscape'? Oh dear.....

No i dont, but i do think it show a good modern area with good paving materials, landscaping and mix of uses. if you want to wave your cock around go ahead!

i do think it show a good modern area with good paving materials, landscaping

:rofl:

Are there any shops, cafés or restaurants in Liverpool? It looks so quiet.

No i dont, but i do think it show a good modern area with good paving materials, landscaping and mix of uses. if you want to wave your cock around go ahead!

its hard to compete with his world famous lithuania:lol:

its hard to compete with his world famous lithuania:lol:


While El Greco can at times be somewhat critical. There is no need to do likewise, especially when such comments lack a basic understanding of history.

Lithuania is an absolutely beautiful country and old Vilnius is gorgeous. It was also once one of the largest, most powerful and influential nations in Europe.


I'm not defending what he says, however I do take issue with erroneous and clearly lacking responses. Next time try to ensure you are more informed.

While El Greco can at times be somewhat critical. There is no need to do likewise, especially when such comments lack a basic understanding of history.

Lithuania is an absolutely beautiful country and old Vilnius is gorgeous. It was also once one of the largest, most powerful and influential nations in Europe.


I'm not defending what he says, however I do take issue with erroneous and clearly lacking responses. Next time try to ensure you are more informed.

fuck off you nerd..lithuania is a tinpot ex commie waste of space.Name me 2 famous lithuanians..you know what you cant you knobend!!..what a shit country.:lol:

fuck off you nerd..lithuania is a tinpot ex commie waste of space.Name me 2 famous lithuanians..you know what you cant you knobend!!..what a shit country.:lol:


I see the failed English comprehensive system has served you well.

Actually, 90% of UK cities could learn a lot from Vilnius and its regeneration schemes, that have transformed the city. Lithuanian scenery is beautiful, the people are friendly and the country hasn't been communist since it was allowed to actually make its own decisions. I didn't realise famous people made a country good. Kerry Katona a famous UK personality - does that make the UK better than Lithuania?

Are there any shops, cafés or restaurants in Liverpool? It looks so quiet.

that was new years day.. everything was closed..

^^ @ Conor

+1

Amazing -

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http:%2F%2Fwww.svmapplets.com%2Fsv%2Funesco%2Findex.php%3FmarkerId%3D10693&hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=49.594121,17.250108&cbp=12,36.73,,0,-7.79&ll=50,10&spn=0,264.726562&z=2&iwloc=mpl0&panoid=BcMIU57rw3dRWEU4fKf6bQ

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http:%2F%2Fwww.svmapplets.com%2Fsv%2Funesco%2Findex.php%3FmarkerId%3D10497&hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=48.810644,14.315105&cbp=12,305.66,,0,-2.51&ll=50,10&spn=0,264.726562&z=2&iwloc=mpl0&panoid=gYRpyfpNkEwsi632K7F01Q

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http:%2F%2Fwww.svmapplets.com%2Fsv%2Funesco%2Findex.php%3FmarkerId%3D10496&hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=50.088051,14.42102&cbp=12,138.51,,0,-1.53&ll=50,10&spn=0,264.726562&z=2&iwloc=mpl0&panoid=R8y3h-cGS8OFVDjF8NF3Yg

UK and Ireland could learn alot from the above

fuck off you nerd..lithuania is a tinpot ex commie waste of space.Name me 2 famous lithuanians..you know what you cant you knobend!!..what a shit country.:lol:

Adam Bernard Mickiewicz (Adomas Mickevičius)
Kanuty Rusiecki (Kanutas Ruseckas)
The Tyszkiewicz (Tiškevičiai) family.
The Radziwiłł (Radvila) family.

I doubt you heard of them, since clearly youre a bit of an arse with no education. However maybe youve heard of these -

John and David Suchet.

Still, Lithuania saved Europes arse from the Muslims (and a bit earlier from the Mongols too) at The Battle of Vienna, when heroic and famous Winged Hussars charged down the hill in what was the largest cavalry charge in Military history and put the armies of Kara Mustafa Pasha to flight. The same Commonwealth Armies also fought on the side of Napoleon and scored some brilliant victories. Yeah the country was pretty cool and still is. In Vilnius they even rebuilt a medieval palace, exactly what Id like to see done in the UK.

http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lietuvos_valdov%C5%B3_r%C5%ABmai

Oh and Lithuania has fastest broadband in Europe. Trains aint that bad either. ;)

Thanks Belfast and Conor :cheers1:

Vilnius Old Town is absolutely stunning.

I think some pics should be posted, to educate the Greenwich pleb.

To be honest, as lovely and amazing as those squares are, there are thousands of them around Europe. There are however very few European cities that have a nice mix of old and new without vast swathes of post war infill. What i was trying to showcase was a completely new area of the city that integrates well, creating a streetscape of mixed uses with interesting modern architecture. If you just want an old fashioned square with rather predictable paving materials (ie the unbiquitous old european square) then im sure i could find a pic. Apart from the smaller older cities, British cities are not going to be old histrical museums.

Vilnius Old Town is absolutely stunning.

I think some pics should be posted, to educate the Greenwich pleb.

Hes seen them. But heres a few anyway -

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Lithuania20.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Lithuania23.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Lithuania27.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Lithuania28.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Lithuania6.jpg

^Great pics! Are they yours el greco?

I hate to sound like a prick, but the skyline of Vilnius is also more impressive than most British skylines.

It's not being a prick, your telling the truth. There's a much better composition, height, quality and even number of highrises in Vilnius than pretty much anywhere here. Only two that stand out are London and Liverpool.

^That was exactly what I was thinking. If we´re talking historic skylines Britain does have its fair share of nice skylines. Edinburgh, Bath, Glasgow, Oxford etc.

I don't think Glasgow counts as a nice historic skyline. I guess it depends on what part of it you are looking at.:)

Vilnius is beautiful, what made you ever leave it El Greco?

^This looks really nice:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01388/Glasgow_Skyline__1388723c.jpg

Yeah thats the West End, its quite nice. But a lot of the city is blotted by Tower Blocks, good job a lot of them are being demolished.

Completely the wrong thread, I know .... and Vilnius does have a good, but quite a 'sanitised' skyline ... but a few British cities compare favourably .... Birmingham for one ....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/4008798607_f8ba35a5e0_b.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1020029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Tower%20Blocks%205/Tower%20Blocks%206/Skyline21050717.jpg



oh yes, and to keep on topic, a couple of Birmingham 'street scenes' ....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2992827650_4c8642a154.jpg?v=0

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/6606545.jpg


:)

Adam Bernard Mickiewicz (Adomas Mickevičius)
Kanuty Rusiecki (Kanutas Ruseckas)
The Tyszkiewicz (Tiškevičiai) family.
The Radziwiłł (Radvila) family.

I doubt you heard of them, since clearly youre a bit of an arse with no education. However maybe youve heard of these -

John and David Suchet.

Still, Lithuania saved Europes arse from the Muslims (and a bit earlier from the Mongols too) at The Battle of Vienna, when heroic and famous Winged Hussars charged down the hill in what was the largest cavalry charge in Military history and put the armies of Kara Mustafa Pasha to flight. The same Commonwealth Armies also fought on the side of Napoleon and scored some brilliant victories. Yeah the country was pretty cool and still is. In Vilnius they even rebuilt a medieval palace, exactly what Id like to see done in the UK.

http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lietuvos_valdov%C5%B3_r%C5%ABmai

Oh and Lithuania has fastest broadband in Europe. Trains aint that bad either. ;)

Thanks Belfast and Conor :cheers1:

ive never heard of any of those people..it just shows you what a boring insignificant tinpot country lithuania is.The suchet brothers are both british born and bred with their lithuanian ancestor having arrived in England in the 1880's..thats a bit of a distant claim no matter how tenious that takes the biscuit..just shows how desperate you are to find notable lithuanians..i do sympathise..it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.:lol:

ive never hear of any of those people

Of course you havent ; youre an uneducated ignorant arse.

^Great pics! Are they yours el greco?

Yes they are mine, I thought youve seen them :dunno:

Heres the thread -

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=932132

Vilnius is beautiful, what made you ever leave it El Greco?

I wanted to piss off Greenwich boy. :)

Arthur Square
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/3955269044_da67be5d38_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/3960715076_e42f846a85_b.jpg


Customs House Square and the Albert Clock
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3321800427_e6358c71c2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2600885917_3d5aca131a_b.jpg


Royal Avenue (due to be repaved and landscaped)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/4177338412_43a51fa40a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2547/4176488915_7bf38c1db8_o.jpg


Donegall Square Overview (2 years old)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/464310345_a3d57ef007_o.jpg

Donegal Square North
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/2182950052_3ee58ed25e_b.jpg


Donegal Square South
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2349/2480241594_b06c5c453b_b.jpg

Donegal Square West
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3291502739_ec93a7f2f4_o.jpg

Belfast has some fantastic buildings, similar to what you find in Glasgow (see the turreted one in Donegal Square North pic) and of course some cool industrial stuff - Samson and Goliath and Harland and Wolff drawing offices.

Looking good there! Loving the amount of different paving used on Royal Avenue ;)

Looking good there! Loving the amount of different paving used on Royal Avenue ;)


It's completely ridiculous. The Arthur Square pics give you an idea of the new paving to be used.

http://www.farrans.com/divisions/belfast_streets_ahead_programme/

Select 'Click here to view Video' to see what it will look like when finished. Work is already well progressed.

So many magnificent shots on this thread. Manchester is so varied, Leeds n Liverpool have so many gems. And why are Sheffield and Belfast not options? some of the best public realm I've seen are in these cities. And in Birmingham too, which is sadly blighted the worst by post-war planning. It has so much potential - the first test is making sure that spaces around the space ship (New Street) are world class. Cover up the airspace above the trainlines for starters!

But i've seen all those city centres, I want to see where the people live. What people walk down to get to the train station, bus/tram stop, look out there windows at..

Apparently Hannibal Lecter was Lithuanian.

Of course you havent ; youre an uneducated ignorant arse.

nobody else has heard of them either you lithuanian cock..have a good year anyway:cheers:

One of my fav areas in Glasgow is Dennistoun (the near east)
http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/Glasgow_North_East/Dennistoun%201999/images/Dennistoun%2005.jpg

http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/Glasgow_North_East/Dennistoun%201999/images/Dennistoun%2004.jpg

Whitevale Bowling Green
http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/Glasgow_North_East/Alexandra%20Parade%202003/images/Whitevale%20Bowling%20Club%2002.jpg

Alexandra Park
http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/Glasgow_North_East/Alexandra%20Parade%202003/images/Alexandra%20Park%2002.jpg

But i've seen all those city centres, I want to see where the people live. What people walk down to get to the train station, bus/tram stop, look out there windows at..

Belfast, as mentioned on another thread has some superb residential streetscapes. The best way is really to use Google Streetview.

I can recommend, Malone Road, Antrim Road, Ravenhill, Lisburn Road, Holywood, Cultra and Stranmillis Road. They are the wealthiest areas but as such are the most lovely.

lol

Ooh and I found these belters on the Glasgow photos (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=241078&page=64) page by the talented asdfg and allanroney.

A contrasting shot of Dennistoun
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9163/img12706869tonemapped50.jpg

And some fine, classier, tenements in the west end (i think!)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3978996735_742e086b05_o.jpg

And finally, the frozen River Clyde
http://i48.tinypic.com/9a1iea.jpg

Plenty more stunners from these guys in the link above. Hope youse like :cheers:

Great pics!

More:

Donegall Sq:

http://i49.tinypic.com/kf366b.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/dnzw3c.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/106k6ip.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ry2f48.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/xnvrs6.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/16ivfab.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/wwn05v.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2urmuz9.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/25kuf6u.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2md4eph.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/wrf4zr.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2e2dqg1.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/6fqohc.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/33kbomt.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/vzx45g.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/rr1rpd.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/64ezr5.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/rk7i88.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/33f8410.jpg

Alleyways:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2s8jmu9.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/34qjivp.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2uif9tc.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/25srkw2.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/snpjrl.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2luukgl.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2w2k55g.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2cpx9hs.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/zmz4li.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/29x65ch.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2zjlx0k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/w8b7yt.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/kbywdz.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2s0l6br.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/1s1fef.jpg

A nice random shot:

http://i46.tinypic.com/ajply1.jpg

Have plenty more I'll spam the thread with tomorrow :D

^^

Fabulous pics of the Cathedral Quarter alleys. Too often missed by visitors and those living here.

Apparently Hannibal Lecter was Lithuanian.

I prefer Lady Murasaki.

^^ Loving the pictures of Belfast :okay:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2296/2175004219_799040e1e9_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morris278/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3977826740_9cc9e6efb3_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2516/3977839580_dae0b0f7ae_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2592/3977075517_36d73f9be5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2763/4222007869_a0576e517d_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexscott67/


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4257602548_bbff43582b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calflier001/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2797/4240832545_6d1284d815_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pierpaciugo/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/3841036304_1d8e478f1f_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calflier001/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4143571995_482404ebaa_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31486622@N08/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3532/3866699985_28090a971f_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2a/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/3001737379_0556374c8b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31486622@N08/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3994420078_b6e7577e9c_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogsy_mcgowan/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/3870416297_dae9988abc_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34352063@N05/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2700/4190715973_3b65ba8cea_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedz/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2827112109_0afb55702d_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerous_disco/


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/478658011_72631e433b_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2a/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2874029995_a69d97f59e_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottdavies/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4211954480_7b2119205f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/titanicmistake/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3311093240_54b50df7a9_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60596914@N00/


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1353/1476191462_2a52452e7c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/manchester-wheels/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2537/3855996274_24976a57ed_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/priscillatan/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2521/3855212551_0df2b3232d_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/priscillatan/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2573/3856415405_a05baf1624_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35490092@N02/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2579/3884260683_f79f2ebbb1_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmckinlay/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2479/3890311634_0433cd584e_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_old_brit/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2346/2399818464_9822d4ecd7_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/raver_mikey/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2673/3902677940_d32ec64aa2_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36209867@N04/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/3903994748_21dc9a6680_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patsyward/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/3908000044_112786af0c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28411479@N08/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/2647569260_c0fbd95d79_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/3928427027_b7933dd25a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jefferic/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2632/4016423404_1ae1d8c87d_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/falconer41337/

last one for now !!!


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/109157734_4a7ad7b89f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulholloway/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2909809487_49320f11a5_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ian-s/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/2925274876_a3cc46dc18_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/afeitar/


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2721051332_b19ff5978c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyhargreaves/

Brilliant pictures Yoshef,I look forward to seeing the rest.:cheers:

Liverpool wins. Lock the thread please. Seriously thoguh, that is an amazing collection of picks of an amazing city.

Liverpool and Belfast are fantastic. One thing I like about Belfast is the buildings with the copper domes and cupolas. I wish we had more of them up here.

Liverpool looks very classy!

Fabulous pics from Liverpool, gorgeous in fact.

cheers guys, Liverpool has a lot of great photographers, and a lot of nice buildings to photograph! Here are some more from my bookmarks... last batch for now you'll be glad to hear :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3347810694_7e1ce5d324_b.jpg
Steve O Brien (i think)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3800491078_00b1d7a7ea_b.jpg
Steve O Brien (i think)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3372/3328558067_f84dff58e1_b.jpg
Steve O Brien (i think)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2548803985_32b7cf96ba_b.jpg
Steve O Brien (i think)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/477077675_6b01b18770_b.jpg
Steve O Brien (i think)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4099936765_4951040fc0_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sshb/


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/4190159587_299dc85d36_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36463157@N08/


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4216892534_7a5cb3b905_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marktj/


http://www.liverpoolstreetgallery.com/albums/uploads/TUC/L2HighStreetDaleStreet.jpg
Dave Wood, Liverpool street Gallery
http://www.liverpoolstreetgallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-1999

http://www.liverpoolstreetgallery.com/albums/userpics/080524-dale-st-3294-b.jpg
http://www.liverpoolstreetgallery.com/albums/userpics/080824-dale-st-005.jpg
Tony Swarbrick, Liverpool Street Gallery
http://www.liverpoolstreetgallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-2214


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/4200034978_498f9d35b1_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yuichirock/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3687691891_7acd14bc19_b.jpg
Tom Patterson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tompatto/)

http://i50.tinypic.com/34qjivp.jpg



I was in belfast for new year, was really good!
we went in the duke of york and had a right good time, those alleyways are rather impressive

Time for a very pretty but un-represented city -

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/O1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/O2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/O3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/O4.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/O5.jpg

Liverpool has a great architectural heritage. I think thats what makes it stand out from quite a few other cities. It's a feeling that the city has been building quality for 200 years at least.

Most cities have fairly decent civic stuff from the Victorian/Edwardian era and some cities have some great commercial buildings (Glasgow particularly) but Liverpool seems to have had decades long competition as to who can build the best building.

I may just be speaking for myself here but it must be particularly galling to Liverpudlians that in recent times it's profile has been so negative (poverty, crime etc) when clearly apart from the last say 40 years it must have been a fabulously wealthy city. If I'm talking bollocks there then you'll be sure to let me know I have no doubt....:)

Thanks for the pics Yoshef, great stuff.

Time for a very pretty but un-represented city -



Looks lovely - is that Oxford? It's a shame there's not more southern representation on city chat, sometimes it's nice to see something other than endless photographs of Liverpool or Belfast, as pleasant as they seem.

I try and represent other cities but those Liverpool pictures are amazing!

sometimes it's nice to see something other than endless photographs of Liverpool or Belfast, as pleasant as they seem.

:pet: Sorry Knighty, there were very few up to date photographs of Liverpool, the odd post by PortobelloRed notwithstanding, until I posted those pictures of Castle Street and Cambrian posted his fine collection of photographs at New Year.

Looks lovely - is that Oxford? It's a shame there's not more southern representation on city chat, sometimes it's nice to see something other than endless photographs of Liverpool or Belfast, as pleasant as they seem.


It's actually the first time Belfast has been show in this thread.

some more, i thought these were good pictures...

Hope Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3316852055_579a9493d7_o.jpg
kev747 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kev747/)

Ropewalks
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2533/4105436021_16fcf543c9_o.jpg
ok_msann (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ok_msann/)

Cavern Quarter
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3364587622_5ae8381e3d_o.jpg
Olton Hall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ok_msann/)


Water Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3458309731_2a7a63d402_b.jpg
Polly S (http://www.flickr.com/photos/polly-in-england/)


Dale Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/3610811486_370eaed0e0_b.jpg
Sue Barnes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/suebarnes/)

Brunswick Street
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/3675887603_f4579d0974_b.jpg
Alan Cookson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/)

It's actually the first time Belfast has been show in this thread.

Anyway that's what this thread is for,if people don't post pictures from other cities then that's their problem,keep posting pictures,someone has too.:cheers:

Quality again Yoshef.

Looks lovely - is that Oxford? It's a shame there's not more southern representation on city chat, sometimes it's nice to see something other than endless photographs of Liverpool or Belfast, as pleasant as they seem.

Then post some pics from Leeds. It's not anyone's fault from Liverpool or here that no one else is posting pics from their cities. If anything, the pics posted over the past 2 days have revived the thread.

Liverpool has a great architectural heritage. I think thats what makes it stand out from quite a few other cities. It's a feeling that the city has been building quality for 200 years at least.

Most cities have fairly decent civic stuff from the Victorian/Edwardian era and some cities have some great commercial buildings (Glasgow particularly) but Liverpool seems to have had decades long competition as to who can build the best building.

I may just be speaking for myself here but it must be particularly galling to Liverpudlians that in recent times it's profile has been so negative (poverty, crime etc) when clearly apart from the last say 40 years it must have been a fabulously wealthy city. If I'm talking bollocks there then you'll be sure to let me know I have no doubt....:)

Thanks for the pics Yoshef, great stuff.

I replied to this earlier with quite a big post (for me!) but I must've missed out the "submit reply" button :lol:

I think you've got it more or less right, although the oldest surving building is nearly 300 years old. What the pictures dont show are the odd derelict or unkept building, eyesores and empty plots which detract from the feel and of which there are more than say Manchester or Glasgow (the latter looking at the photographs on here), although the city is regenerating them slowly.

cheers :cheers:

Looking at these photos, Belfast and Liverpool are looking very pleasing on the eye. I think Liverpool pips it in terms of diversity.. perhaps more regeneration in Belfast will see that change. But Manchester in this regard is nosing ahead of the major UK cities (outside London).

Yoshef you mentioned Manc and Gla having less dereliction than Liverpool, certainly for Manchester but Glasgow's city centre is not quite as complete as Manchester's i'd say:

http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/GG-ORG/Glasgow%20at%20Night/Trongate.jpg

The buildings in the distance on the right are the missing jigsaw in Glasgow's impressive Argyle street. The sight has been owned and neglected by Selfridge's for years.

Do the big English cities have any problems with owners sitting on their hands, holding up regeneration of an area?

^yep. in newcastle chelsfield/multiplex/brookfield have gradually, over the past 13 or so years, bought up around 40 acres on the east side of the city-centre in the hope of eventually developing it into a retail area (a real pie-in-the-sky plan imo).

they've let many great, historic buildings fall into disuse or disrepair, and get tatty in the meantime. and as they hold the land there's been pretty much zero development there, so even with the best will in the world it will begin to look dated compared to elsewhere in the city centre. and when tenants gradually empty out over time, they don't do their best to advertise the properties- preferring to keep them empty so they can demolish in a decade's time. it's disgraceful really and they should have the land CPO'd from them, they're the definiton of absentee landlords, the fact that the land is owned by a billionaire development corp should make no difference.

yeah Bill Davies's Walton Group and Frenson spring to mind. Bill Davies sat on Exchange Flags and the old Post Office (MetQuarter) for years. Frenson have held up the regeneration of Ropewalks..

Frenson owns a large estate in the Ropewalks area of Liverpool, next to the Scandinavian site. THE estate was originally sold for £7m by the post-Militant cash-strapped Labour council in the form of 309 properties to Charterhouse Estates. Mr Stone was a shareholder and director of the company.

In 1992, Charterhouse collapsed, owing the council £3m, and in 1993 Mr Stone helped set up Frenson, which bought the estate from the receiver for £5m.

Holding such a large amount of property, Frenson has in the past come under criticism for not having been quick enough to develop its portfolio. But the company says it will only develop the property in line with demand.

a tizer sunset! great image.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/4190159587_299dc85d36_b.jpg

Yoshef you mentioned Manc and Gla having less dereliction than Liverpool, certainly for Manchester but Glasgow's city centre is not quite as complete as Manchester's i'd say:


In terms of regeneration both cities are way ahead of Liverpool. Much of the regeneration in Liverpool has focused on the waterfront and on an area that hadn't been developed properly since the germans flattened it in world war 2.

http://www.englishheritageprints.com/pictures_1863689/liverpool-afl03_aerofilms_a1911.html

http://www.englishheritageprints.com/image/liverpool-afl03_aerofilms_a1911_1863689.jpg

Aerial view showing the area around the five way junction of Duke Street, Hanover Street and Paradise Street (the former Sailors Home, now demolished, stands at the junction) in July 1946. The widespread devastation caused by bombing during the Second World War is apparent. Liverpool Old Custom House on Canning Place stands roofless in the foreground after firebomb damage in the Liverpool blitz of 1941. It was demolished in 1950.

Some more here:http://www.englishheritageprints.com/dmcs_search.html?PHPSESSID=c7f29cd9d24ab313c7083a6499d93073&find=LIVERPOOL&x=0&y=0

Looks lovely - is that Oxford?

Yes it is.

In terms of regeneration both cities are way ahead of Liverpool. Much of the regeneration in Liverpool has focused on the waterfront and on an area that hadn't been developed properly since the germans flattened it in world war 2.

Got their priorities right then. I can never tell though because all the photos on here obv. show the best Liverpool has to offer. I think the Capital of Culture/Talls Ships year has marked a turning point for the city's fortunes, the same way the Commonwealth Games did for Manchester.

why is everyone sat by the canal there?

here are some pics of princess street area in manc which is up there in terms of elegance. all them italianate warehouses.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2582/4088615769_8164a70424_b.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/9tei5l.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4130532931_337a1a3be5_b.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/29bnjic.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/3134745711_baabf15ca2.jpg

great character area

Looks great. You know its really good when you look have to look at the cars in the black and white picture to tell you that the picture wasn't taken in the 1930s!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/meenaghd/2710390062/sizes/o/

I replied to this earlier with quite a big post (for me!) but I must've missed out the "submit reply" button :lol:

I think you've got it more or less right, although the oldest surving building is nearly 300 years old. What the pictures dont show are the odd derelict or unkept building, eyesores and empty plots which detract from the feel and of which there are more than say Manchester or Glasgow (the latter looking at the photographs on here), although the city is regenerating them slowly.

cheers :cheers:

I think all cities in the UK suffer from the same problem. In Cardiff there a few really good streets with great architecture but every single one is blotted by at least a couple of absolute stinkers. Inappropriate 70's concrete shit or old buildings left to rot away. Even the historic Coal Exchange - a great building and quite important in it's way, it was the epicentre of the coal industry before WW1 - is slowly disintegrating due to neglect.

Liverpool scores highly for it's Georgian architecture in my opinion, same as Bristol, Dublin, Edinburgh etc. Who doesn't have a soft spot for Georgian terraces? Was there ever a more graceful style?

Do the big English cities have any problems with owners sitting on their hands, holding up regeneration of an area?

Westfield in Nottingham and (much more severely) in Bradford are prime examples.

Here's one from Liverpool Suburbia,the street in the background is beautiful I think aswell as its location.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2194/jetskier1qe8.jpg

^^ that's quality


Some more shots of the 'Pool

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4105047959_9c073e488d_o.jpg
sohvimus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sohvimus/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3635356574_d32faf7281_b.jpg
Rob by (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob2007/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/3531100319_669eb89a06_b.jpg
Ronramstew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3297717702_831c791cc5_b.jpg
Alan Cookson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2209093937_9ca813a228_b.jpg
Eddie Hales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehales/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3500/4022268956_1d30395464_o.jpg
The Old Brit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_old_brit/)




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3778435354_54d8e50e85_b.jpg
dnmufc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dnmufc/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4094216300_128552cc98_b.jpg
Liverpool Suburbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolsuburbia/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/1328739679_362784139b_b.jpg
crabbyoldbat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23136130@N00/)

why is everyone sat by the canal there?

Last summer a series of cultural events took place down at the Pier Head. In this case, a visual display was projected onto the front of the Port Of Liverpool building (notice the silver shrouds covering the equipment just behind the trees). That is what the people were waiting for. :)

Liverpool is looking like a scaled down London, and that will never be a bad thing. The pics are all outstanding :D

Cathedral city of Armagh, NI:

http://i49.tinypic.com/63u5ib.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2w4d0n6.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/ephky9.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/213n89e.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/1zvfo5l.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/mhvhop.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/16a8snd.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/34479zq.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/33navsl.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/nc0g1d.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/9ult8y.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2jfax3p.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/vctnjs.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/5n6cy9.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/16ou2c.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2h71cvt.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/lwi0h.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/s67tag.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/258yvk2.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2n01wsk.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2hqh647.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/wk1qhk.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/einhg1.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2jaen1s.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/5ckqb9.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2e5o2om.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/abgpj5.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2lxxwnd.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2gxee6w.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/s2vdll.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2saghgm.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/334ov35.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/5kj1oj.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/9ifyaf.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/29wn7cy.jpg

^^

Gorgeous, Armagh is a lovely city. Some of the nicest Georgian buildings in Ireland.

Yeah,beautiful pictures.

Some Leeds panoramas. I've often thought panoramas are better for showcasing a streetscape as an entire streetscape can be shown, rather than just a select number of buildings.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/850661816_870c42a5a6_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/341044057_69563f089b_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2509116991_8bd480fa6f_b.jpg
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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1255/639769133_bcf56bca50_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/66/222828425_b530c1b665_o.jpg

loving the pics of Norn Iron


some great Panos there Leeds. It's very hard to get a good panorama when there are crowds around, if you haven't got a very wide angle lens. Whenever I try, I always seem to end up with about 4 or 5 sets of twins! In fact you can see some in this picture...


the couple either side of the lamp post with the yellow sign, girl with blonde hair and red top, guy with green jacket!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2509116991_8bd480fa6f_b.jpg

That's true. I hadn't noticed those people- a strange phonomenon. I like how people appear in so many different positions in panoramas though, almost as if they're posing.

Another building that should have a particular mention is Kirkgate Market. Completely under-represented I think.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2362880757_f9f85531f7.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3609260481_79374c6d8e.jpg

Conor has started a new thread in the NI Forum.

Worth a look, some absolutely gorgeous townscapes from across NI atm. Really shows the history of our towns, most of which pre-date our cities.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=50274241#post50274241

^^ Very good thread there. I really like the look of Irish towns. Obviously a great slice of british styles but also something rather nordic. Having never been to Northern Ireland, I don't know first hand but very impressed by the photos.

Dewsbury town centre, in the Leeds area

infamous for the suicicde bombers, and the shannon mathews scandal

http://www.batleyanddewsbury.co.uk/interface/articles/197/main/1188828566_933955608.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1163/1354682285_759bc6eef8.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1156/1276928977_1854203245.jpg

Suicide bombers? They were from Leeds weren't they?

Which is what I keep saying, the problem isn't Islamic fundamentalism, it's just people from Leeds.

Suicide bombers? They were from Leeds weren't they?.

some dewsbury, some beeston.

oh, and theres been a string of bnp members arrested on terrorism charges and bomb plots in the dewsbury area too. There's something in the water i think :nuts:

Which is what I keep saying, the problem isn't Islamic fundamentalism, it's just people from Leeds.

Oh yeah sorry I forgot that everyone from Leeds is a terrorist. How stupid of me to think that 9/11 was an attack from extremists from the middle east when it was just Leeds attacking New York.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/DSC03171.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/DSC03173.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4284265761_aa67251e2a_o.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4279876394_06d7fa04a5_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4038208742_9f841d50ae_b.jpg

A couple of randoms I happened to have on the computer.


St Mary Street (due to undergo pedestrianisation) during the carnival.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/3877480321_3a6ffc1591_b.jpg

The Embankment on the Taff

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3500/3878273274_b357095a32_b.jpg

A part of Cardiff BAy

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3877472939_2ae9182bc1_b.jpg

Greyfriars Road, City Centre. Not particularly attractive, but a nice example of what can be done with dire 60's buildings.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/3878275588_e2aabd3c72_b.jpg

CHurch STreet, City Centre

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3848970384_c1697ab554.jpg

Cant wait for St Marys street to be pedestrianised (the section in your photo the first part), agree about greyfriars rd and making the most of what is there, i actually really like the white building closest to the cammera (though i doubt its 60's). The other end of the street if far more impressive though. Lol at the church street pic!

Gotta love Church Street. Home to the best pub in the world!

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4301054915_09446666d0_o.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4300621133_9c00304139_o.jpg

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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4300350117_00b42ee0b5_o.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4300006219_91628a1f86_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4300002865_24e5d0bb2f_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4295985255_ba5661bd8c_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4288007563_8ca19b8da8_o.jpg

^^


LOVING that last pic

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4284265761_aa67251e2a_o.jpg

This picture sums up beautifuly what Cardiff is all about. Best present streetscape indeed. :okay:

:lol:

I like that pic... I noticed it the first time cardiff put it up!

I love those Cardiff pics! So diverse. One minute, your at a grand central city area, then a fairy tail castle, then a beautiful bay and then a very urban towering environment :D

Here's that image again.

El Greco, I think the bridge itself is talking directly to you.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3877478051_2cf2f5af0e_b.jpg

I think you get what Cardiff is about Conor, its not a museum and its not a new city. it is a great compact city that mixes all different types of architecture in a vibrant street scape. You miss the point again El Greco as usual.

Here are some of Newcastle:

Grey Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00230.jpg

King Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00438.jpg

Lombard Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00440.jpg

Sandhill:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00448.jpg

Queen Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00450.jpg

Dean Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00454.jpg

Westgate Road:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00532.jpg

Grainger Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00556.jpg

Grey Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00559.jpg

Grainger Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00561.jpg

Quayside:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC01965.jpg

Quayside:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC01970.jpg

newcastle looks very impressive there

As always Newcastle is gourgeous

Indeed. Newcastle looks great! But where are all the shops, cafés, restaurants etc?

Indeed. Newcastle looks great! But where are all the shops, cafés, restaurants etc?

Unfortunately the city centre is dominated by an enormous shopping centre, containing lots of malls (Eldon Square), and this is where most shops are. However there are some main shopping streets, Northumberland Street (Below), Grainger Street (Previous), Newgate Street (Contains The Gate, which is a 'leisure mall' containing restaurants/bars/casino/cinema; Below), Blackett Street (Below) and Clayton Street (Below). Then of course through the rest of the city centre shops and restaurants are scattered throughout. Thanks for the kind comments everyone!

Northumberland Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00579.jpg

Blackett Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00565.jpg

Clayton Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00552.jpg

Northumberland Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00566.jpg

Newgate Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00471.jpg

Quayside:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00426.jpg

Broad Chare:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00437.jpg

Collingwood Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC00526.jpg

St Ann's Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%202/DSC01972.jpg

Stowell Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2929567401_c1b9dfb199_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kurtcurtis/2929567401/

Bigg Market
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2757274474_45c327fc60_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregwake/2757274474/

Grainger Street
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/152979118_4a7ae259e4_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thunderchild5/152979118/

Grey Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3367375625_6418252698_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33700393@N05/3367375625/in/set-72157613766075948/

Sandhill
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3485676967_cd9255f2bc_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_leithead/3485676967/

John Dobson Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3368440538_91f3ce1219_o.jpg

Westgate Road
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3367699731_0f08a2f162_o.jpg

Market Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3367361523_60c5cb182e_o.jpg

Blackett Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/3367619943_3ddb7624d0_o.jpg

Nun Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3368172342_05bcf6c5e2_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33700393@N05/3368172342/in/set-72157613766075948/

Newcastle does look lovely, I can see why some draw comparisons with Edinburgh.

Newcastle is indeed lovely- though i wasn't so keen on Eldon Mall- it felt a bit cramped. Though it seemed to be going under some sort of renovation (this was in 2005 or so) My only complaint the weekend i was there... so many bloody hills! And no matter where we went, every street seemed to be uphill lol

Newcastle has a chinatown?

Anyway, very nice pics! Keep them coming!

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00450.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool:

Newcastle has a chinatown?

Anyway, very nice pics! Keep them coming!

Yep, indeed it does. Here is the Chinese Archway at the entrace to Chinatown.

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Misc/DSC00553.jpg

More photo's to follow soon!

Newcastle still has some of its city wall as well (near chinatown). Eldon square shopping center is awful, shame they dont move all the shops into higher class buildings sitting empty.

There doesn't look to be much in Chinatown except St James' Park!

I'm going to call them Noodlescastle United from now on. Graham Chop-Souyness used to manage them.

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I'm so funny.

Does anyone know any other CHinese related football name jokes?

Cryspy Duck Palace?
Chicken Chow Meinchester United?

why is there never a rifle to hand when you need one?

James, that is the entrance to chinatown you dummy! it's all behind the photographer in that photo. funnily enough the building right next to the arch is the tyneside irish centre - just a tad out of place!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/3297226561_d2741d84e3_b.jpg

stowell street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/3292081133_6faf6717e6_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2142/2320966044_627bbf470c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurbityburbity/2320966044/

you might notice the building with the japanese cupola. not a modern addition but an original victorian feature built to honour newcastle's trade links with Japan.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3263789715_78e43ecefe_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/e88701001/3263789715/

can't find a good pic of it so took an image off google street view, but chinatown has expanded onto low friar street and charlotte square in recent years, there's two asian bakeries (:drool:), a thai supermarket, a noodle house, a thai cafe, a japanese barbecue, chinese travel agents and a chinese food shop here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/throwaway/lowfriar.jpg

I never realised Newcastle was so extensively preserved :o Looks great!

DUBLIN:

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http://i46.tinypic.com/1zlgabs.jpg

:cheers:

El Greco, I think the bridge itself is talking directly to you.

Er.....bridges dont talk.

You miss the point again El Greco as usual.

Thread title say 'Best Present Streetscape' and yet you posted a shitty picture(s) of a shity place(s). I think youre the one missing the point. Its the brain you want (need), Cardiff! ;)

can you hear it.......swoooooooooosh....right over your head El Greco!

Couple of nice pictures of da northside there Connor :shocked:. I'm not the biggest fan of the northside city centre, but your pics make Henry street look.... not terrible.:?

Really hate the tall buildings in your pictures though, really despise Liberty Hall and O'Connell Bridge House. Oh, and the traffic and not to forget the hideous loopline bridge:puke:.
Dublin's fault, not the pictures!

Really hope they're knocked at some point... Dublin could learn so much from the regeneration and pride seen in UK cities. It's so sad to see it such a mess in parts...

The pics of Cardiff and Newcastle look great. Seems to be a really great sense of continuity in the regeneration of Cardiff!

Couple of nice pictures of da northside there Connor :shocked:. I'm not the biggest fan of the northside city centre, but your pics make Henry street look.... not terrible.:?

Really hate the tall buildings in your pictures though, really despise Liberty Hall and O'Connell Bridge House. Oh, and the traffic and not to forget the hideous loopline bridge:puke:.
Dublin's fault, not the pictures.

Really hope they're knocked at some point... Dublin could learn so much from the regeneration and pride seen in UK cities. It's so sad to see it such a mess in parts!

The pics of Cardiff and Newcastle look great. Seems to be a really great sense of continuity in the regeneration of Cardiff!

We both know Dublin just about trumps every other city posted in this thread though ;) Also, I think the UK cities need to learn from Dublin! Clean, well preserved buildings, good for tourists, clean and modern paving, cool new architecture, plenty of cultural venues like the O2 and the ultra modern new theatre, interesting and unique 100m high sculptures :P, Foster and Hadid proposed towers- along with a few more 100m+, multiple Calatrava bridges, the Luas trams, the underground port tunnel, getting major companies like Google to set up their European base in the city, T2 at the airport, the underground rail network, which should start soon... then you travel a few miles up to Belfast... oh dear.

Great photo's of Dublin and Cardiff! Thanks for the comments too; will hopefully get some more of Newcastle posted soon!

I watched a program about Dublin (well more about Ireland) but it was saying how at the time of Dublins construction they were trying to create another London. Looks a great city.

Dublin is very much like a mini London, with a lil bit of Paris chucked in. There are so many pics I could post. I'd just advise you guys to check out some pics on Google Earth.

DUBLIN:

http://i45.tinypic.com/20mipy.jpg



Statue of Big Jim Larkin there,he was from Liverpool.:cheers:

We both know Dublin just about trumps every other city posted in this thread though ;) Also, I think the UK cities need to learn from Dublin! Clean, well preserved buildings, good for tourists, clean and modern paving, cool new architecture, plenty of cultural venues like the O2 and the ultra modern new theatre, interesting and unique 100m high sculptures :P, Foster and Hadid proposed towers- along with a few more 100m+, multiple Calatrava bridges, the Luas trams, the underground port tunnel, getting major companies like Google to set up their European base in the city, T2 at the airport, the underground rail network, which should start soon... then you travel a few miles up to Belfast... oh dear.

I don't know Connor. It def lags behind in preserving streetscapes, and is pretty gritty in parts(not so much litter, but dirty buildings and bloody cars everywhere.) It's a medieval city for god's sake, it's not suitable for cars in the heart of the city!


Sure, it has a great historical heritage, (my own photos focus on that) but it's very much an unloved and uncared for city.
Investment in the city is really hindered by rural resentment, and the fact nearly everyone in the country outside Dublin hates the place!
Don't want to sound snobby, but the best example Dublin could take from other European cities is taking soical housing out of the its surrounding inner city!

Hopefully, an elected mayor and the underground will solve some these problems. However, I think it's a good dose of civic pride that's required to overcome most of the hurdles.

Don't be hard on Belfast, it certainly has more ambition than Dublin!

Real nice Metropolitan feel from those Dublin pics :cheers:

Bumping this pic again. It's like the city out of Bellevue Rendevouz

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%201/DSC00450.jpg

Dublin is very much like a mini London, with a lil bit of Paris chucked in. There are so many pics I could post. I'd just advise you guys to check out some pics on Google Earth.

Or check my photos in skylines and photography.:)

I don't know Connor. It def lags behind in preserving streetscapes, and is pretty gritty in parts(not so much litter, but dirty buildings and bloody cars everywhere.) It's a medieval city for godsake, it's not suitable for cars whatsoever!


Sure, it has a great historical heritage, (my own photos focus on that) but it's very much an unloved and uncared for city.
Investment in the city is really hindered by rural resentment, and the fact nearly everyone in the country outside Dublin hates the place!

Hopefully, an elected mayor and the underground will solve some these problems. However, I think it's a good dose of civic pride that's required to overcome most of the hurdles.

Don't be hard on Belfast, it certainly has more ambition than Dublin!

Cars can be a problem. Unfortunately were a car loving island though :( More people should use the public transport in Dublin ,I agree. It's not as if there isn't any to use lol Everywhere else in Ireland is just jealous of Dublin, perhaps because of the Dublin-centric mentality, where most important businesses and government facilities and infrastructure works are in the city, rather than spread equally. The suburbs can be iffy, but I've never really found the city centre in any way gritty. Very modern, leafy, and interesting though. :) Hopefully a mayor, as you mentioned will iron out the last problems.

I do love Belfast's sense of ambition, but the NIMBY's shite themselves at anything in anyway unique, or new such as the buildings going up in Dublin. I love my city, don't get me wrong. But Dublin is better in every way :cheers:

I also love that Newcastle pic btw!

Here is nordisk celts great Dublin photo page for anyone interested:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1045509

^^ Thanks for the promo:cheers:

Newcastle really seems to be becoming a popular city break destination as well. Lots of friends/work colleagues/students of mine have been, and rave about the people in particular.

I don't know Connor. It def lags behind in preserving streetscapes, and is pretty gritty in parts(not so much litter, but dirty buildings and bloody cars everywhere.) It's a medieval city for god's sake, it's not suitable for cars in the heart of the city!


Sure, it has a great historical heritage, (my own photos focus on that) but it's very much an unloved and uncared for city.
Investment in the city is really hindered by rural resentment, and the fact nearly everyone in the country outside Dublin hates the place!
Don't want to sound snobby, but the best example Dublin could take from other European cities is taking soical housing out of the its surrounding inner city!

Hopefully, an elected mayor and the underground will solve some these problems. However, I think it's a good dose of civic pride that's required to overcome most of the hurdles.

Don't be hard on Belfast, it certainly has more ambition than Dublin!

I agree with that completely.


I do love Belfast's sense of ambition, but the NIMBY's shite themselves at anything in anyway unique, or new such as the buildings going up in Dublin.

Not really, a prime example is the opposition to developments in places like Ballsbridge and the Tara Street development, indeed the fact that Belfast has Ireland's tallest buildings and will likely do so for years.

You give Dublin more credit than it's due at times.

Love this image of Portsmouth

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/4283846489_7fc3c8b89b_b.jpg

Some nice ones of Swansea

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3604940867_69d3a3fd6c_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3604937859_8dcca3242c_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3604936081_0cd53729bf_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3604935399_68e9e1d373_b.jpg

Something different Winchester

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2772318318_328e661487_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3461542391_ee54cfb210_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2084905148_6aed67c53f_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/1506823120_23aea32404_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/352660635_60c97b5b76_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/3986689856_eed1151988_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/41774215_5f026094fb_b.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2520874900_88080b147f_o.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/562039153_4baa810477_b.jpg

Dublin is very much like a mini London, with a lil bit of Paris chucked in. There are so many pics I could post. I'd just advise you guys to check out some pics on Google Earth.

The pics of Dublin in this thread are quite well selected though. I found the city to be quite dirty, gritty and ugly in many places. I know it isn´t a fair comparison but London is much more attractive. Having said that I really like Dublin. There are many beautiful places like Grafton Street, Dame street, Temple Bar etc.

Some more of Newcastle:

St Nicholas Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00353.jpg

Grainger Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00468.jpg

Dean Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00456.jpg

St Andrews Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00480.jpg

Westgate Road:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00550.jpg

Side:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00453.jpg

Clayton Street West:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00547.jpg

Bewick Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00549.jpg

John Dobson Street:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00574.jpg

Quayside:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00431.jpg

Quayside:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TownPlanningNE/Streetscape%203/DSC00430.jpg

Wow love that Swansea pic with the ruins!!

The pics of Dublin in this thread are quite well selected though. I found the city to be quite dirty, gritty and ugly in many places. I know it isn´t a fair comparison but London is much more attractive. Having said that I really like Dublin. There are many beautiful places like Grafton Street, Dame street, Temple Bar etc.

I'll have to agree with that. I personally think that other cities in Ireland are more unique. Dublin doesn't feel all that different to a British city... not that its a bad thing at all.

I'll have to agree with that. I personally think that other cities in Ireland are more unique. Dublin doesn't feel all that different to a British city... not that its a bad thing at all.

Not sure I'd agree now. Not long ago I would have said it was similar to a UK city but it has adopted a much more European feel akin to one of the smaller European capitals like Amsterdam recently. I think it's because it now uses km/Euro, but also down to things like the paving and street furniture, as well as the trams of course. I think it's perhaps a vision of what the UK could be like in the future.

I have to say Newcastle is a very handsome town. The arches of the various bridges give the streetscene a great sense of drama. Very impressive.

The riverside area and those bridges are some of the most interesting streetscapes ive seen around the world. its the different layers, bridges cutting between buildings and the beauty of it all. The only negative side is there isnt much do to there, personally i would like to see more things for tourists (though there may be since i was there last).

Newcaste by Boldonian on flickr.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2589/4281419123_ddcc84ac42_b.jpg

May aswell put something of Sunderland on here....

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/2010_01_28_0452.jpg
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/2010_01_28_0485.jpg
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http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/SunderlandElephantTeaRooms-1.jpg
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/2010_01_28_0488.jpg
Rubbish shop fronts :ohno: below.....
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/3469628812_0cf55be9de.jpg

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/Sunderland9898.jpg
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/2010_01_28_0447.jpg
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/sunderlandnrmowbraycopy1-1.jpg

Cardiff

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/556008800_4821bf83d7_o.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4320038828_9d0e8d4e8b_b.jpg

Old arcade

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4319713586_919f51d15b_b.jpg

New arcade, how well do you think the replication has been?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4319129303_70919df75b_b.jpg

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3784502367_0f71253bd0_b.jpg

Nice, but shopping malls are hardly street scape.

I included them as they form major routes through the city and are efectively covered streets (thats up to you if you agree or not, but seeing as Cardiff has the largest undercover shopping area in the Uk it forms up alot of the center). Areas like the old arcades i would argue strongly that they are streetscape though.

Liverpool

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4316987404_5e24d0b9ce_b.jpg
Cassini2008 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28411479@N08/4316987404/) on Flickr

Some Leeds pictures, as all we get from the city is bad towers

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/173678618_a167bece0f_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/1031642596_bd7f8c95a4_b.jpg

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3373585805_91cb9a2e32_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3433358163_582b8d3c67_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3801781470_d1f432809d_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/353267327_c0ac9dff77_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3542852307_1500fac3ab_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4311567145_443b2f2b6e_b.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4312407314_4a67f560a8_b.jpg

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/4320188546_1920e5a46a_o.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/2074847374_631b30a495_o.jpg

but seeing as Cardiff has the largest undercover shopping area in the Uk

How much floorspace is that then?

How much floorspace is that then?


I can see the figures and graphics now...

http://www.hugepassion.com/images/penis_size.gif

I can see the figures and graphics now...

http://www.hugepassion.com/images/penis_size.gif


is that a knob size graph? :lol:

:yes: It's a bell end graph.

:yes: It's a bell end graph.


thanks for that, just spat beer all over me keyboard !

I can see the figures and graphics now...

http://www.hugepassion.com/images/penis_size.gif

:rofl:

I can see the figures and graphics now...

http://www.hugepassion.com/images/penis_size.gif

ROFL!!!! :cheers:

:lol:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/susananstiss/3433358163_582b8d3c67_b.jpg

beautiful tower on the right there. how can i find more pics of it?

Google 'Tower Works Leeds' hope that helps :)

nice one. the third tower based on the campanile in florence is a bit gash but those other two are lovely.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2772072009_61d41756ca_b.jpg

Looks better than the original

http://z.about.com/d/goeurope/1/0/3/5/2/Lamberti-verona-2.jpg

Work on Tower Works is planned to start in April.

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/468xAny/u/r/m/Towerworks_3_cred_Ia_16D631.jpg
http://www.baumanlyons.co.uk/files/tower%20works%20canal%20small(1).jpg

Just spent some time looking at Leeds in Google Maps, and I have to say I find the city to be very underrated. Leeds seems to have a quite well preserved, impressive and dense Victorian city centre.

Liverpool

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/98/245481861_055a9f744d_b.jpg
bahcodeclub (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ptegriffs/245481861/in/pool-52242121198@N01)

Liverpool

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2542101455_9fc274c5d4_b.jpg
vinylred (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lawla/2542101455/sizes/l/in/pool-52242121198@N01/)

Liverpool

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/3657266041_91f2c25ef1_b.jpg
gonzopix (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gonzopix/3657266041/in/pool-52242121198@N01)

Liverpool

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3339300612_f1eb67897e_o.jpg
Athanasius (http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithpatterson/3339300612/in/pool-52242121198@N01)

lark lane is boss


Andy Barton (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andybarton/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4395819423_48601f2c31_b.jpg

Nearly all the Uk is now in Google streetview

Nearly all the Uk is now in Google streetview

I know it's amazing! Even the majority of the Highlands is on it which came as a big surprise - hats off to Google.

Liverpool

D5S9oFuFNK0
Brunnyboy on YouTube

^^ Thats where I parked up when I went for a gander round liverpool one,I wanted to take in some of the water front on my way,was a nice walk.(apart from crossing the dual carriageway)

^^ Thats where I parked up when I went for a gander round liverpool one,I wanted to take in some of the water front on my way,was a nice walk.(apart from crossing the dual carriageway)

No worse than Paris or New York:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2767/4330492660_c6f2b009f7.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2506/4088067793_87f48dd226.jpg