^But when it comes to shopping/leisure and the quality of the buildings lining the Strand it´s not as nice though?

the buildings are nice enough. The massive problem with the Strand/Goree is that it is an urban freeway, whilst Manhattan has nice avenues and Paris has those beautiful boulevards.

Turning the Strand into a boulevard or evenue would bring out all those lovely qualities in that part of downtown Liverpool.

So what does the Strand need to feel more like a boulevard?

A few trees for a kick-off.

A bit of street-level activity and ground floor retail, with wider pavements too.

also need to be rid of the motorway kerbing, the over engineered filter lanes and massive signage boards.

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Liverpool is looking fantastic!!

Couple from today:

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The first one is fantastic, lovely shot.

goodstuff conor :cheers:



Have they finished repaving this road yet.. (can't remember what its called sorry!)

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I like this elevated view of Waterstreet by flickerything1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40809870@N06/)

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Donegall Place, no they haven't. Thing is a bloody mess.

They have finished one side and started on the other.

cracking picture of Liverpool there. Is that the Liver building on the left? Haven't been for a couple of years so might have to pay it a visit sometime soon.

Following on from Conor's photos, here's a few more from Belfast:

Donegall Place, looking towards Royal Avenue. Sadly the view is currently spoiled a bit by the streets ahead scheme, should look great by the summer when it's all done.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4523883105_6fe3d36cce_b.jpg

Great Victoria Street, looking towards the Queen's Quarter. There were plans for a 40 storey tower in behind the awful black building on the left, but sadly they have been rejected.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4523888203_3723dea46e_b.jpg

Wellington Place, looking towards Chichester Street, with the Waterfront Hall in the distance.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4524516388_04ca8efd73_b.jpg

View from Royal Avenue looking back towards Donegall Place and City Hall.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4524524110_c0f8cd1f1a_b.jpg

More from Royal Avenue, at the less photographed part.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4523904569_0499a49d4d_b.jpg

Waring Street, with the Merchant Hotel on the left, looking towards the city centre.

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wonderful building that city market thingy is. the level of detail on the roof, with all those domes, spires and cupolas is quality.

I couldn't find a picture that shows the roof particularly well. At night the domes are uplit beautifully- the picture I posted only shows two of the four.

Would be nice to see a more impressive streetscape to show that Leeds buildings off ala peace gardens in Sheffield.

Leeds Market

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Leeds_Kirkgate_Market.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14686258.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2204/1750031692_1c288e48c2.jpg?v=0

Great pics from everywhere. I agree though, that Leeds really needs to show of its buildings with an appropriate street-scape. I know that in Belfast, we have finally realised this and are actively correcting the decades old problem.

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Yeah I agree, there are some good examples of street-scapes in Leeds, and also some poor ones such as the market. I really would like to see more greenery around the art gallery and town hall etc, its too grey and dull.

Briggate has worked out well, although not all the buildings are of good quality and design.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Leeds-briggate.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2391650.jpg

http://www.barnabyaldrick.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/LG-Faves-01.jpg

The light is a good example as it is a continuation of the street (well it feels like it is).

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9070257.jpg

There are 3 (or 4) of those buildings above which are renovated which really adds to the city as they are excellent buildings .

The buildings all look the same, building below is not the building above, but you can't tell the difference.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Primark_Leeds_City_Centre.JPG

Looking towards the town hall you can see 2 out of the 3 need doing up like the light (far right), building on the left is a new build which fits in perfectly with the street-scape, however the tower on-top doesn't
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9070223.jpg

Another one of these buildings have recently been refurbished, and although the stores are typical the quality of the buildings certainly adds value (even if it is Argos).

http://www.highcross.co.uk/_assets/client/images/collateral/Broad%20Gate%20Leeds%20Retail%20Unit%203%20small.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Argos,_The_Headrow,_Leeds_001.jpg/800px-Argos,_The_Headrow,_Leeds_001.jpg

Most of the buildings used to look like this, gives you an idea of how a little can impact alot.

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/03/54/1035448_bd4aceaa.jpg

cracking picture of Liverpool there. Is that the Liver building on the left? Haven't been for a couple of years so might have to pay it a visit sometime soon.

sorry I missed this bud, yeah that's the Liver Building.

Great pics from everywhere. I agree though, that Leeds really needs to show of its buildings with an appropriate street-scape. I know that in Belfast, we have finally realised this and are actively correcting the decades old problem.

I think this is true along the Public Transport Box, but I wouldn't agree about the core shopping district and the major squares. These are all paved and furnished to a high quality that show off the streetscape well. I suppose Albion Street or King Edward Street are good examples of how.

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^^ i took a picture of that tall office block, at least I think it's the same building! What's it called?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4363868718_6656279ca1.jpg

Yep, that's the one, Windsor House. Was Irelands tallest at 80m to roof (Not sure about height to the tip of the mast) for almost 40yrs until Obel took over this year. Were plans to double it in height a couple of years ago. The plan fell through :( Great pic of it there :)

great pics folks, good to see Belfast in here :)

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Fantastic stuff, crusty.

epic pictures crusty :cheers:

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^^

I absolutely love the contrast of that image, superb.

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Indeed, very nice picture

lovely contrast.. I think aswell the atmosphere of the street changes a lot when the sun and shadows move...

It could do with something more in my opinion, perhaps that new fangled landscaping feature, you know, the brown and green ones? What are they called... ah yes! Trees!

http://www.freefoto.com/images/15/19/15_19_15---Tree_web.jpg

Indeed tonkso, two trees, either side of the arch would set that off perfectly, not saying it's bad as it is or anything though!

yeah trees can make a massive difference, that pic looks rather barren,put a few trees in there there and it would radically change the streetscene. We have trees everywhere in Sheff, it makes such a difference,as you can see below.


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The newly planted trees on Kirkgate are helping to revive what was a rather run down but important city centre street:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/27/1274956288061/kirkgate-Leeds-001.jpg

The newly planted trees on Kirkgate are helping to revive what was a rather run down but important city centre street:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/27/1274956288061/kirkgate-Leeds-001.jpg

Wow impressive, not been down there in a while, will have to go and have a look.

More trees just off Barkers Pool.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/maddmaxx500/P1050651.jpg

^^ Some nice looking trees, amazing the difference just a few of them can make to a street scene, add some welcome shade in the summer too.

The trees infront of the bluecoat gallery in Liverpool:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3500/3697815906_e7747601e9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redserenade/3697815906/)

Treefest!


Liverpool Cultural Champions (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolculturalchampions/)
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marpete (http://www.flickr.com/photos/petegoblin/) ..
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Simon a Lee (http://www.flickr.com/photos/simon_a_lee/)
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BluRay1878 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50121561@N04/)
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PaddyPix (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paddypix/)
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^^

Station looks SO much better now.

Ive always said liverpool should have more trees and gren spaces, definately going in the right direction. Station is looking great also, makes you wonder why they covered it up.

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^^most of those pics are of the suburbs though!and most cities suburbs have trees.

^^ Surburbs and trees, behold the forest of South Birmingham:-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1020510.jpg

North Birmingham is of course all concreate and corrugated steel. Rusted obviously.

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A few tree shots in Belfast city centre. First one is of the Titanic Quarter- should look well when the place resembles less of a building site. The second is Donegall Square, in front of the city hall. Looked really well today in the bank holiday sun.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1280/4658110834_055a8e5f0d_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4657495843_6a481a04e8_b.jpg

Also, when walking round Titanic Quarter today, i noticed Belfast has ripped off the lights seen in the first of crusty_bint's photos lol.

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4447300455_315a1078d9_b.jpg

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lol

Look better in Belfast though :D

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Brilliant old buildings there. Its a shame all of our city centres aren't close to that.

more superbness ^^

Glasgow doesn't seem to be as afflicted with the dodgy paving & distasteful street furniture as some of the other UK cities.

30 years ago many of those buildings were rotting husks, blackened by years of pollution. The only thing that protected them was that the city was too poor to tear all of them down. By the 80s it was realised that we needed to save these buildings from complete dereliction. So the last 20 years has been a complete rebirth for Glasgow.:)

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I've just based my opinion on the various 60s masterplans that I have seen, and the various buildings that are still here today that were planned to be demolished. I always look at Birmingham and think "god, that could easily have been us", no offense to Brummies, it's still a fantastic city. Of course, I should have mentioned the conservationists and communities, my pedantic friend;)

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That's still the case with many buildings in Liverpool. You only have to spend a few minutes walking around Dale Street or Victoria Street to see the city is some way off fulfilling potential, and spot a few fine buildings left in a dilapidated state, covered in muck, water damage and plants growing out of them.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3736122218_befc601c15_b.jpg


The shocker out of the lot is the magnificent Royal Insurance Building.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/3437952818_5ac14e23a2_b.jpg

You only have to spend a few minutes walking around Dale Street or Victoria Street to see fauna growing out of [buildings].

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3736122218_befc601c15_b.jpg

You probably meant Flora.

yes typo

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thats shocking to see buildings of that calibre in such a state, but certainly not something unique to Liverpool, or any one place in the UK, sadly. where are these, Yoshef? so i can have a looksie :)

Royal Insurance Building Dale Street, North John Street Junction (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=victoria+street+liverpool&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.514185,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Victoria+St,+Liverpool,+Merseyside+L1,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.412026,-2.994139&spn=0,0.027466&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.407607,-2.989685&panoid=9ul_smIlLu2zwu_id6ALAQ&cbp=12,112,,0,-11.35)

plant building Victoria Street (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=victoria+street+liverpool&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.514185,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Victoria+St,+Liverpool,+Merseyside+L1,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.406859,-2.987616&spn=0.009095,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.406765,-2.987858&panoid=6zjgla6hEBr6q7gNKvy1JQ&cbp=12,133.6,,0,-12.12)

Cardiff

Churchil way, building on the right is now the fanciest premier inn ive seen!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4390568235_3017d43011_b.jpg

Raddisons hotel
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4381099535_7551015101_b.jpg

Apartments in the bay next to the taff

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4377888845_3452745af0_b.jpg

Llandaff cathedral

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4271738238_ce34007dc2_b-1.jpg

Queen street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/13507497.jpg

Mill Lane (aoarently a very succesful restaurant!)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/33.jpg

Old post office and modern addition

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4399074009_639e926bdb_b.jpg

Hayes/mill lane

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4420850168_fbd535864e_b-1.jpg

Duke street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4422364953_c9dd8e43c3_b.jpg

Royal arcade

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4431449446_3738a78b9d_b.jpg

Sports village promenade

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4451129772_bc4cc6d2d5_b.jpg

Historic bay apartments

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4452303668_54ec2230df_o.jpg

5 star Hilton, lighting reminds me of columns

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4478436043_8ff53c5a61_o.jpg

Church lane

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Millennium center arcade

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Hayes square

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Westgate street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4489494996_d8f6d3b62c_b.jpg

Law courts

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Bay

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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4508648036_51d80a707c_b.jpg

Tabernacle on the Hayes

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4512154562_552e9d2d67_o.jpg

St Marys church high on Penarth head

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4523689273_499c413cb6_b.jpg

Castle

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4523870561_601a53798d_b.jpg

Queen street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4530600576_f1a4f26436_b.jpg

Hayes

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4540491970_830a95f767_b.jpg

A hidden court yard right in the heart of the city, these houses have been restored to within an inch of their lives!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4552237022_739751110a_o.jpg

Alexandira gardens

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4564544827_c2bd61cbbf_b.jpg

Oldest hotel in Cardiff

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Church street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/4599266165_e4eb50f853_b.jpg

The above church (st johns)

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Queen street

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Castle

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St Marys street (repaving underway thank god!)

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Queen street

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old warehouse with modern addition in the bay

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New apartments in the sports village

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Queen street

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Nice, but are there any other streets except Queen Street in Cardiff? :lol:

Well out of 49 pics only 7 were of Queen street :dunno: Excuse me for trying to give some bearing to the pics.

Nice, but are there any other streets except Queen Street in Cardiff? :lol:

Of course, but you dont want to see them, trust me.

Ever heared of the frase "if you havent got something nice to say then dont say anything" elgreco? Go argue with yourself:ohno:

Theres nothing nice to be said about Cardiff, it is a horrible place in the middle of industrial wasteland and Bricks needs to know this so he does not waste money on visiting it!

And its 'phrase'. Education in Wales is even worse than I thought. :ohno:

Theres nothing nice to be said about Cardiff, it is a horrible place in the middle of industrial wasteland and Bricks needs to know this so he does not waste money on visiting it!

And its 'phrase'. Education in Wales is even worse than I thought. :ohno:


OH FFS

Do you ever STFU Greco?


Cardiff is a perfectly pleasant and decent city, it has a lovely civic quarter, quayside and castle park amongst other things.

Honestly, I think you just purposely act like a **** to piss people off. There was absolutely no call whatsoever for such a bullshit filled statement.

Dont waste your breath belfastuni guy, he just likes to talk shit and argue with people for the sake of it, dont be drawn in. Treat him like he deserves, a looser who occasionally posts some nice pics.

El Greco proved himself to be something of an ignoramus a few months ago with his persistent and irritating little jibes at Cardiff. I can only equate it to those supposedly Straight men that are utterly obsessed with hating homosexuals. It really is odd.

Just for the record, and hopefully to nip the argument in the bud before we get dragged down another dullard route, heres a few pictures of the Industrial Wasteland that surrounds Cardiff. As you can see, it is the shame of Britain.

Brecon Beacons

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2006/2271173342_d0bd02b46d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/3188918767_55ac375d4a.jpg

http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Life/Sport/Outdoor/WalkingBreconBeacons.jpg

South Wales Valleys

http://www.erih.net/uploads/pics/RR_GB_SouthWales1_01.JPG

http://www.oakridgeguesthouse.com/afanforest.jpg

Glamorgan Coast

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2190760134_373d822e1c.jpg

http://www.cymdogaeth.com/uploaded_images/webVoG%20Heritage%20Coast%201.jpg

All the above are within 30-40 minutes or so of the City Centre. Within the City itself.

http://www.cavinguk.co.uk/cycling/trips/14_March_2004/normal/CastellCoch.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2978609095_db2a8b60eb.jpg

Bute Park

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/01/22/88/cardiff-bute-park-looking.jpg

El Greco proved himself to be something of an ignoramus a few months ago with his persistent and irritating little jibes at Cardiff. I can only equate it to those supposedly Straight men that are utterly obsessed with hating homosexuals. It really is odd.

We all have our little obsessions. Monkey hates Manchester and scousers, I hate Cardiff. Besides theres nothing ignorant about what I said about Cardiff. It is shite, fact.

Just for the record, and hopefully to nip the argument in the bud before we get dragged down another dullard route, heres a few pictures of the Industrial Wasteland that surrounds Cardiff. As you can see, it is the shame of Britain.

Wales Valleys are breathtakingly ugly and poorest in Europe too! Keep them well hidden away mate! North Wales is great though, but it is rather unreachable for London folk.

Dont waste your breath belfastuni guy, he just likes to talk shit and argue with people for the sake of it, dont be drawn in. Treat him like he deserves, a looser who occasionally posts some nice pics.

Losers cant spell. My spelling is top notch, yours on the other hand.....;)

We all have our little obsessions. Monkey hates Manchester and scousers, I hate Cardiff. Besides theres nothing ignorant about what I said about Cardiff. It is shite, fact.



Wales Valleys are breathtakingly ugly and poorest in Europe too! Keep them well hidden away mate! North Wales is great though, but it is rather unreachable for London folk.



Losers cant spell. My spelling is top notch, yours on the other hand.....;)

You are such a weirdo!!

Anyone watched that episode of Family guy where he keeps on playing surfing bird (if not watch it), surfing bird here being elgreco. in that i mean when someone responds to him you know its going to result in elgreco having some weird psyco fun out of saying the oposite of the last forumer jus tto piss them off and make me mentally say "OH CRAP!" Best thing to do is just ignor him and carry on as if his posts dont exist, everyone realises hes talking stupid anyway!

@JamesWales

Stunning pics of the Brecon Beacons, absolutely gorgeous!

I love the Beacons. Holidayed there twice as a sprog. Loved it, especially when we drove up to the series of Dams at Elan.

Cardiff has a lovely city centre and a great bayscape. It and Bristol are two of the more livable cities in the UK, one of many reasons I love Southwest England and South Wales.

http://www.gtj.org.uk/storage/components/batch_6002/GTJ28588_2.jpg

The second Dam at Elan (I think)

Cheers guys,

Yep, the surrounding area within an hour or so of Cardiff really is quite superb, as indeed it is with most cities (most people don't explore their rural hinterland enough in my experience).

Besides theres nothing ignorant ...



Wales Valleys...



Losers cant spell. My spelling is top notch, yours on the other hand.....;)

Shame about your punctuation, but never mind.

http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Life/Sport/Outdoor/WalkingBreconBeacons.jpg

"wtf, where's the street gone?"

Sir Frederick Gibberd's modernist Cathedral, perched atop Sir Edwin Lutyen's crypt, faces down Sir Giles Gilbert Scott's enormous neo-gothic Anglican Cathedral along Hope Street.

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El Greco has obviously got a huge chip on his shoulder. Abusive idiot is my impression

Argh........ dont mention his name he might come back! Hes already tried to spoil one of my picture threads twice now.

I know you've all probably seen enough photos of Glasgow lately, but here's two more views I really like. Yay or nay?

West End
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr63/Indiekid_bucket/21478391.jpg

Merchant City

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr63/Indiekid_bucket/1076248_059aff7b.jpg

Westend is a yes, Merchant is nice as well but the area in front of the monument could do with some TLC

http://i45.************/kbrfxe.jpg

What a lovely building ^^.... looks almost Italian .... is that Belfast City Centre? Just a shame about the one attached to it to the right .... reminds me of Kings Parade, Dale End in Birmingham ....

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4363130703_fb93bc7a9c_o.jpg

I must get some pics of Leeds shopping core, council have finally made big progress with repaving of the shopping streets with lines of densely packed trees which look really nice. Amazing what a difference trees and better paving makes.

What a lovely building ^^.... looks almost Italian .... is that Belfast City Centre? Just a shame about the one attached to it to the right .... reminds me of Kings Parade, Dale End in Birmingham ....


The one on the right is part of Victoria Square, if you'd seen what was there before then you'd be rather thankful of the change lol


Yeah it's Belfast City Centre, it's the restored Masonic Building, It was restored as part of the Victoria Square development and it's absolutely gorgeous.

Yep, its in the city centre Sandblast, and its one of my fav buildings in Belfast. Great pic as well Yoshef.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=belfast&sll=36.527295,-72.333984&sspn=41.690683,93.076172&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Belfast,+County+Antrim,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.598734,-5.92766&spn=0.001868,0.007725&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=54.598781,-5.927689&panoid=texZgPEL_Og640bG8O4RKQ&cbp=12,129.11,,0,-15.18

Unfortunately the surrounding area isn't the nicest.

I must get some pics of Leeds shopping core, council have finally made big progress with repaving of the shopping streets with lines of densely packed trees which look really nice. Amazing what a difference trees and better paving makes.

yes i agree :yes:

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Interesting pic of Caroline street aka chippy alley

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The more I see pictures like the ones Cardiff man posted, the more I think that British cities would benefit greatly from these few rules emplyed by Singapore (note I emited a few like - ban on Malaysian newspapers and Homosexual activity) -

Banned in Singapore

- Overhead wires
- Satellite dishes
- Freestanding billboards
- Handcuffs, even if pink and fuzzy
- Feeding pigeons or monkeys

These would improve even Cardiff, if only slightly! :okay:

:ohno:

- Overhead wires
- Satellite dishes
- Freestanding billboards
- Handcuffs, even if pink and fuzzy
- Feeding pigeons or monkeys



Overhead wires - Agreed.
Satellite dishes - Agreed.
Freestanding billboards - No way, these can add colour and vitality, as well as providing the useful service of telling you what the specials are.
Handcuffs, even if pink and fuzzy - Killjoys.
Feeding pigeons or monkeys - Pigeons, yes. Not enough monkeys in British cities for my liking however.

Billboards get dirty and vandalised very quickly and thats hardly good.

Few examples -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7977826@N06/2175802678/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drgillybean/4575397544/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste-photos/3676562972/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste-photos/3675759097/

Assuming you're talking about the ones that get put up outside restaurants and such and taken in at the end of the day, then I don't believe I've ever noticed a particularly dirty one, and certainly not a vandalised one. But if that's something you notice on a regular basis then I would say that the issue is one of non-cleanliness and petty crime, not of billboards. I don't advocate the banning of something simply because as a side effect it can highlight other problems.

Pigeons and seagulls on the other hand are a direct cause of any number of problems and as such should be culled forthwith and without mercy.

No, Im talking about different kind of billboard.

- Overhead wires - agreed (except trams/light rail)
- Satellite dishes - agreed
- Freestanding billboards - agreed
..

No, Im talking about different kind of billboard.

Oh yeah, those are shit.

I assumed your list reacting to objectionable things in cardiff's photos would mostly consist of things that actually appear in the photos. Although revisiting the list and the photos it would appear that actually none of those things (with the possible exception of overhead wires if we use the definition broadly) in fact appear. How confusing.

Small free standing 'billboards' (I think they may be called 'A-Frames' or something similar) are an asset to a place really, especially to small retailers. The context in Cardiff where they are most used is at the entrance to some of the Victorian Arcades, where they are used to advertised the small shops and things that are in the arcades, but aren't visible from the main street. I understand that some people with sight-problems aren't their biggest fans, but generally they are good.

Large billboards are okay-no advertising is ever particularly exciting-but the problem is with vandalism not the board themselves. If they are well maintained then I don't find them too offensive.

Overhead lighting is fine. Again, context. In the photos above, they are displayed above Mill lane, which is a nice open air eating and drinking area and at night the lights add to the location and vibe.

no advertising is ever particularly exciting

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From the billboards he posted, you hardly find them in city cetners anyway, and if you do they are generally well maintained as money is made from the advertising. I love how his list also doesnt relate to a single picture i posted as well. I think im going to take a different tackt with him, when he says something negative im going to say something postive, balance him out a bit.

I love how satalite dishes give light to the joke "what are those boxes behind the satelite dishes? What.....Council houses?"

Overhead wires that carry lights are often very pretty if well maintained and add vibrancy and distinction of area at night.

Its always exciting to see a film you want to watch advertised on a billboard

Handcuffs can be fun if used in the right way

Pigeons and monkeys add vibrancy to areas, will never forget seeing a monkey walking past the main gate of the president of India with the grandure of the Raj path as its backdrop. Feeding pigeons in trafalgar square and st Marks square was a tourist attraction in itself.

And you are REALLY stupid if you think Picadilly circus, Times square etc are awful because fot he advertising, its what defines them and what brings people to them, and is typical of you to post pictures from over 70 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/800px-London__Kodachrome_by_Chalmer.jpg



Will's goldflake FTW!!!1 :banana:

when he says something negative im going to say something postive, balance him out a bit.

I think thats going to be impossible ; what positive is there to say about Cardff?

Feeding pigeons in trafalgar square and st Marks square was a tourist attraction in itself.

Pigeons are flying rats, I dont really want to be dodging flying-rat shite in city centre! Please dont force your weird fetishes on the rest of us!

And you are REALLY stupid if you think Picadilly circus, Times square etc are awful because fot he advertising, its what defines them and what brings people to them, and is typical of you to post pictures from over 70 years ago

You cant spell therefore you are the stupid one. Not understanding the fact that I was disagreeing with JamesWales' 'no advertising is ever particularly exciting' comment by posting those photos makes you look even more stupid, and they are old because Piccadilly used to have more advertising then than it does now, silly.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How old are you again?

Billboards get dirty and vandalised very quickly and thats hardly good.

Few examples -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7977826@N06/2175802678/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drgillybean/4575397544/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste-photos/3676562972/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste-photos/3675759097/


I cant stand these sort of billboards. I have quite a few around my station and most of the time they look like these examples. I think there should be a rule that when they are not being used for advertising, some kind of holding image should be put up - a map of the local area or something. It should be the ultimate responsiblity of the owners of the billboard to ensure it is presentable. If an advert ends up in a shabby state it would be removed. The owners of the billboard would soon get the message when they start losing revenue.

Fair point about the likes of Piccadily Circus Greccers. Advertising like that is exciting. I meant more that the kinds of things that are advertised on bill boards are a 'necessary evil' much like advertising in newspapers or on TV or whatever. Clearly a few trees or whatever are nicer than some billboards, but I guess thats the economy we live in, and they aren't that offensive.

How old are you again?

Says the man with an avatar of two girls kissing! aww bless!

I dont think they are a 'necessary evil', they are simply cheap and therefore 'good'. Theres is a lot we could learn about advertising from the past ; in many cases shops and streets back then were saturated with advertising, but not the kind of advertising we are used to today - cheap shattered neon tackyness, but individually designed and classy stuff. Heres one rare survivor from those days. Entire streets looked like this -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/khaugli/16407680/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/junglebear/3791954779/

Says the man with an avatar of two girls kissing! aww bless!

No, its an avatar of Sony headphones, you pervert.

I dont think they are a 'necessary evil', they are simply cheap and therefore 'good'. Theres is a lot we could learn about advertising from the past ; in many cases shops and streets back then were saturated with advertising, but not the kind of advertising we are used to today - cheap shattered neon tackyness, but individually designed and classy stuff. Heres one rare survivor from those days. Entire streets looked like this -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/khaugli/16407680/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/junglebear/3791954779/



No, its an avatar of Sony headphones, you pervert.

My mistake!

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:)

I think he proved how old he was with the comment " you cant spell .....nah nah nah nah nah!" Only a child would pic an avatar of women kissing.

Cardiff is a beautiful city with some amazing architecture, i love how it combines many different architectural styles and ages in such a neat and relatively small package.

Cardiff is a very open city and from what I have seen looks smaller than it is. I don't mean that in a bad way either, it looks like an open, friendly and inviting urban realm. I can't wait to visit.

Some of my shots from around Old Hall Street & St Pauls Square in Liverpool. All a bit clinical and shiny in places, quite a few big blank walls down the side streets, but St Paul's Square is coming along.


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I like this shot, feels real 'Big City'.

.....nah nah nah nah nah!

My cousin when she was very young used to repeat words in such a manner when she was angry.

Cardiff is a beautiful city.

Indeed

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/4303535590/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/4019973220/sizes/o/

^^

All cities have examples of those posted situations. London has them, Manchester has them as does Glasgow, Belfast, Leeds and so on and so on.

Cardiff if hardly unique in that respect. At least in Cardiff you'll have less chance of being murdered or mugged than in London.

My cousin when she was very young used to repeat words in such a manner when she was angry.



Indeed

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/4303535590/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/4019973220/sizes/o/

Clever Boy finding those photos. You've done well there. It's not like finding some crappy photos on flickr isn't the lowest possible form of post on Skyscraper City at all. No sir ee!

Thankfully most people on here don't want to play that game. Who has the time, effort or inclination to follow up peoples posts with crappy pictures of Cardiff, London, Leeds, Blackpool, Manchester, Bristol or wherever.

At 1.32 AM as well! Pull ya socks up boyo!

Who has the time

Clearly Cardiff does!

Not really, i dont work nights anymore so have no inclination to be up searching for bad pictures of cities, gone midnight to someone i havent met and dont really care about, and who almost everyone is reallising is a troll who doesnt even post decent pictures anymore.

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Not really, i dont work nights anymore so have no inclination to be up searching for bad pictures of cities, gone midnight to someone i havent met and dont really care about, and who almost everyone is reallising is a troll who doesnt even post decent pictures anymore.

Im sorry, but youre going to have to repeat that because I didnt quite get what youve been trying to say. :dunno:

Of course I post photos, not on UK forums, though, but if you insist heres a few to keep you happy and tantrum free -

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8789/naples48.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1756/naples58.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9611/naples49.jpg

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Not really, i dont work nights anymore so have no inclination to be up searching for bad pictures of cities, gone midnight to someone i havent met and dont really care about, and who almost everyone is reallising is a troll who doesnt even post decent pictures anymore.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/4556127874_4f1c6a7c98_b.jpg





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Love those two images.

^^

me too. cardff really has a nice streetscape scene :)

Leeds

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Not really a streetscape, but I love black & white streetscenes.

Merchant City
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr63/Indiekid_bucket/2847098086_90146dfea5.jpg

I photographed all the buildings on one side of Castle Street and stitched them together

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Thats fantastic! Definitely one of the best streetscapes.
Why does it look so quiet, did you photoshop people and traffic out? Havent been so impressed by photos on here in a very long time. Amazing.

BTW can we have slightly larger version?

cheers, it was very early in the morning, around 6ish so it was fairly empty. I've only cloned the one car out, it drove off between buildings. These are next size up...

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Liverpool

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cliffclicks (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46389188@N06/4606249628/in/pool-1271621@N24)

I photographed all the buildings on one side of Castle Street and stitched them together

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4692768831_b3dc0859c9_b.jpg

Simply amazing work! How did you manage it (ie walk me through it so i can repeat it ;) )

^ You take your photos (ie 2 or however many) and stick them in photoshop, the new versions do pretty amazing job (seemless stitching etc), there are also plenty of pano programes.

cheers, it was very early in the morning, around 6ish so it was fairly empty. I've only cloned the one car out, it drove off between buildings. These are next size up...

Cool. The quality si great what camera did you use?

So do you just stand in front of each building and take the picture? The program automatically componsates for optical curve?

Well it all depends on you really, you can either stand in one spot and take photos or you can move to the left and right and take photos that way, this however is complicated and time consuming and you will most likely start taking photos from different angles etc. So the first option is the best. After you finished youtr pano you can start fixing the perpspective (lens correction on PS, again in the latest version this tool is rather powerful). I think thats what he did as you can see that the perspective ha been fixed.

EDIT - no I would suggest correcting perspective before putting photos together to be mdade into pano.

Liverpool

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4598000545_09f9294289_b.jpg
ihughes22 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36463157@N08/4598000545/in/pool-52242121198@N01)


Great looking street and shot, looks very European.

All done with a Nikon D60 and Sigma 10-20mm f3.5

Simply amazing work! How did you manage it (ie walk me through it so i can repeat it ;) )

As El Greco said, the workflow is fairly basic. Take several photographs of each of the individual buildings, try and keep your camera horizontal and square on as possible, but you'll find some of the buildings you can't fit in the frame so you may have to lean back. You might need to take 2 for wider buildings (I didn't but I wish I had). Take a reference photograph of the whole street too, it helps a lot. Normally to do a panorama you'd stay in one spot, lock the exposure, and rotate your camera around the focal plane. For this I walked along the street, and tweaked the exposure later in photoshop. For buildings that are leaning back (unless you have a tilt shift lens!) you need to perspective correct them in Photoshop or PTGUI. Then just join up the best shots. I did the above in Photoshop manually distorting and resizing. Photoshop has a panorama generator which might work for you better than it did for me. PTGUI might work better for this kind of thing, its perspective correction is miles better than Photoshop's.

Thats amazing yoshef! It really helps to convey the diversity of styles along the street.:)

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Fantastic pics from Cardiff!!

The Bay was nuts on Saturday for Armed Forces Day. Never seen anything like those crowds down there before.


Cathays Library is looking good too! Always loved that building.

Great pics! I had a chance to take some snaps around Belfast today:

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Nice photos, what is the building with the copper crown spire?

That's the Presbyterian Assembly Building, HQ of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland

Also has a shopping arcade inside as well. It's just been restored, looks absolutely glorious.

Ahh thanks it makes sense now, do you think the spire is a homage to Northern Ireland's Scottish connection? Yes, its a fine building:)

Ahh thanks it makes sense now, do you think the spire is a homage to Northern Ireland's Scottish connection? Yes, its a fine building:)

No doubt about it.

Built in 1905 and opened by the Duke of Argyll, the three story building is styled on the architecture of a Scottish baronial castle while the crown on top of the tower is modelled on that of St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh. The bell tower houses Belfast's only peal of 12 bells.

The Scottish connection is appropriate since the Presbyterian Church in Ireland is a daughter church of the Church of Scotland. It traces its roots back to 1642 when the first organised Presbyterianism in Ireland had its beginnings among Scottish regiments stationed in Carrickfergus just 10 miles north of Belfast on the lough shore.

Indeed :)

The second pic down also shows some of our Scottish heritage, the Scottish Provident Building

Thanks for all the info! I have a particular love for Belfast's copper domes, to find a crown spire is a nice bonus, its a real unique style of Britain:)

goodstuff ^^


a few from Flickr of Liverpool


Bernard Rose (http://www.flickr.com/photos/br-images/)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4548208223_c80cc3d6ee_b.jpg


Brian Mason (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33593746@N03/)
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Digirose (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37731655@N07/)
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Digirose (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37731655@N07/)
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some of my walkabouts around town during lunch breaks...

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That's the Presbyterian Assembly Building, HQ of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland

Also has a shopping arcade inside as well. It's just been restored, looks absolutely glorious.

Yes I was going to say that looks very Scottish, wouldn't be out of place in Glasgow. Stunning stuff though :cheers:

Liverpool

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Derek Hyamson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41557568@N04/4685085099/in/pool-52242121198@N01)


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Chris Purcell (http://www.flickr.com/photos/a_northern_soul/4080773215/in/pool-52242121198@N01)


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Some greenery around the museum would look really good I think. It would make the building look a lot less imposing.

Here's a photo I took a couple of weeks ago in The Lace Market area of Nottingham.

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Liverpool

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andrewmweather (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44943505@N07/4758260119/in/pool-856859@N25)

Lewis's, in need of a scrub


Christiano Maia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/criscmaia/)
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One day it could be as clean as the Dock Office

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The 'streetscape' in front of the Cathedral really needs rethinking. A nice big square would do wonders here.

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Lime Street Street is looking a bit better these days with the removal of Concourse House. Pity about St Johns!

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Yet another shot from the new steps

Christiano Maia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/criscmaia/)
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I'll put these in here too, I thought they were pretty impressive but can't find an appropriate thread :)

Hope University's new Angel Field gardens, pictures by Rob_by (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob2007/)

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Liverpool

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Aside from the clutter on the street, that last one is a fantastic shot. Looks really epic.

Playing around with Adobe CS5, its absolutely amazing!

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Oh that's sexy!!

Was it cold in Scarborough that day? The beach is almost deserted!?

Playing around with Adobe CS5, its absolutely amazing!




Nice pano! I find Photoshop a little clumsy for creating panos, PTGui is much better IMO, although a bit more involved.

Well i used to use a canon aplication but it wasnt always succesful. About 10% of that picture doesnt actually exist, i got the program to auto generate the gaps around the edges of the connected pictures. This picture was taken about 8AM Leeds No.1, incidentilly i stopped off in leeds overnight so will post some pics later.

Great view of Water Street in Liverpool.

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Tenby looked glorious in the sun today

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Great pics on this page ;)

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I thought that top picture in Leeds was a slightly similar building in Liverpool One at first glance,it must have been the same architect?

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Liverpool

Stephen Appleyard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51654099@N02/4834021612/in/pool-52242121198@N01)
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Great pics on this page ;)

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God....I miss having an actual usable road!! :lol:


Suppose be nice when the work is done though.

Why has Crusty deleted all his Glasgow images?

Something happen with him? Rather disappointed I can't view them again :(

Leeds
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Crusty ain't coming back. He didn't agree with the creation of the Scotland forum. Whether he was right or wrong (I personally didn't care), he wasn't worth losing it over. The Scotland forum is hardly brimming with activity either. With Crusty gone, and Boards missing in action, you'll be hearing a lot less from Glasgow I'm afraid.

Oh FFS

Not to start a flame war or whatever but last time I looked Glasgow wasn't a country or region, it's a city in Scotland. Some people need to address their superiority complex and realise that Glasgow is not the sole area in Scotland with any development of merit.

Crusty ain't coming back. He didn't agree with the creation of the Scotland forum. Whether he was right or wrong (I personally didn't care), he wasn't worth losing it over. The Scotland forum is hardly brimming with activity either. With Crusty gone, and Boards missing in action, you'll be hearing a lot less from Glasgow I'm afraid.

I think it's just going to take some time for activity to build up again. Scotland or Glasgow, activity was always going to be killed somewhat by the recession, but in time it will pick up, and if Crusty/Boards' departure is permanent I'm sure new/existing posters will come in to fill the void in time.

I've never understood the big deal about the Scotland forum either, although I leaned slightly in favour of it's creation. But Crusty was a brilliant ambassador for the city and it's a shame to see him leave over it.

Oh FFS

His reasons not mine. I hope I'm proved wrong, and the Scotland forum grows. Was it worth losing one of my forum's main contibutors, and a friend over? Personally, no.

Alternatively you could say was it worth leaving a forum and deleting all the much-vaunted photos of Glasgow over a reorganisation of its structure? Not really.

As for the friend part, presumably it's the online friendships that would be lost over this rather than personal ones, but again, he can't have been that bothered about the interaction on the forum if he left over such a trifling matter.

Oh but crusty did agree with the creation of the Scotland forum, along with everyone else. What i didn’t agree with was the removal of the Glasgow forum from the main index. A Scotland forum has been discussed several times over the years and everyone agreed it should be done, but they also agreed it shouldn’t be done at the expense of the Glasgow forum.

What i take exception to is the way in which it was done. The Scottish forumers have asked several times for the Scottish forum to be created, we even came up with and agreed on a structure for it, but it was ignored. Until some bright fucking spark who’d never even posted in the (then) Glasgow forum took umbridge with its existence and within days, voilla, Glasgow is demoted from the main page and its threads raped to create a Scotland forum thats barely a page long.

But its not just that, we asked for a moderator several times and agreed m_riaz should do it as he is a regular poster, doing the meet n greet etc. But that was ignored and theboydavid was made mod without having even expressed an interest in doing so. Don’t get me wrong, i have a lot of time for davey but he doesn’t have a lot of time for the forum.

So my issue is, for all the dickwads who make presumptions and jump to conclusions without the slightest fucking clue as to what goes on in the Glasgow/Scotland forum, that if gothicform thinks it reasonable to treat members of this forum with such contempt and values post count over anything else (considering the shite:interest ration in this sub section alone i suppose i really shouldn’t be surprised) then there patently isn’t a place in this forum for me anymore and my contribution is no longer needed.

Last post, make the most of it kiddies.

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Thread i've started from my trip to north east england and scotland

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=61458169#post61458169

Portsmouth

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Those Cardiff pics are fantastic. You should post your some of your Leeds and York pics in here to, they were great to look through. :cheers:

It is somewhat funny that all the best pictures on this thread focus almost entirely on the old architecture. Unknowingly, we the modern enthusiasts still think of the Classical, the Gothic and the Victorian etc as what defines beautiful scenes. Why? Because they do.

There are so few shots of modern streets on here and it is because no matter how great new buildings are they cannot capture that essence that the old did. With the exception of Cardiff, I don't think any city has managed to capture the vibrance within a purely new area. Cardiff bay does for me.. I've not been, but the pictures show a streetscape which is an architectural portfolio of modern buildings and street furniture that create a brilliant, iconic setting.

Other cities come close.. yet still require that anchor of heritage to create a successful modern space. Most purely modern spaces are still being designed to be clinical and sterile, which is a real shame. Still, these pictures without shadow of a doubt answer the other forum's question 'Do we have ugly cities'..... NO! :D

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There are so few shots of modern streets on here and it is because no matter how great new buildings are they cannot capture that essence that the old did. With the exception of Cardiff, I don't think any city has managed to capture the vibrance within a purely new area. Cardiff bay does for me.. I've not been, but the pictures show a streetscape which is an architectural portfolio of modern buildings and street furniture that create a brilliant, iconic setting.



As a resident of Cardiff I would tend to disagree with this assessment. Cardiff Bay has provided some good modern public realm and a selection of fine contemporary buildings, but is yet to develop a really coherent streetscape - rather it feels like a bit of an exhibition of individual showy buildings in a sea of rather less special ones. Ironically (given your post) the best opportunity for a great streetscape in the Bay lies in the older part of south Butetown where there are a good selection of Victorian grand buildings awaiting a new lease of life.

I think there is a great one dimentional moderns streetscape around the bays edge, plans to the rear of these buildings look good but i dont really find your assesment accurate either DaiB.

I tend to agree with DaiB. There is so much to admire in Cardiff Bay - feats of engineering like the Barrage, iconic modern architecture like the WMC and the Senedd, the Grade 1 listed Pierhead building, the grand Victoriana of the older part of the Bay, the vast array of places to wine, dine and be entertained, the excellent public realm etc.

But all of those elements are not really lnked in a coherent fashion at the moment. This isn't suprising - at the outset of the project to regenerate Cardiff Bay it was a wastelend with just a few older buildings left amid acres and acres of post industrial detritus. I think there is an opportunity to achieve that in time but as it stands at the moment the Bay - for me - seems to consist of a number of seperate area's rather than a larger single entity.

I think then you are being confused by the term bay, which Cardiffians use to reffer to the whole bay, and inner harbour which outsiders reffer to as 'the bay'.

I think then you are being confused by the term bay, which Cardiffians use to reffer to the whole bay, and inner harbour which outsiders reffer to as 'the bay'.


I'm not sure if that was in response to my post but I'm not quite sure I follow.

My point was that you have the inner harbour, the Red Dragon centre, Atlantic Wharf, the area marked for Capital Waterside and the lower Bute ST/Mt Stuart Square area etc all next to each other geographically but seemingly seperate.

Part of that is explained by the different era's they were developed (Atlantic Wharf in the late 80's for example) and partly by the fact that redevelopment has been on such a large scale.

In time the area will feel more joined up. If Capital Waterside gets built as planned the area behind the Senedd will have a proper grid system and feel more built up helping to draw in the current offices as well as residential developments like Celestia and Adventurers Quay which feel out on a limb a bit at the moment. Likewise Millenium Quay allthough I don't rate it as a building will make Mermaid Quay feel more like an extension of Bute Street.

And by the way I am a Cardiffian.

I love Cardiff Bay, am a proud resident of it, and there are very few waterfront locations within the UK that I would swap the Bay for (maybe Brighton)..

But I must admit, the waterfront area does need to connect with the rest of the Bay a bit more. There is some beautiful architecture around the Bay that is not on the waterfront, and it deserves to be integrated.

The Bay remains a long term project and it's exciting to see it develop anyway.

Yes i know you are a Cardiffian 'Karldiff' weve both been around both sites for a while. While i agree that there is alot of work to do in the inner harbour, there is enough mass to form a coherent modern streetscape around the waters edge from st Davids hotel, to mermaid quay to rohl dahl plass to the senedd and finnishing at celestia. Yes its one dimentional for its most part but these seperations between bute street etc are mostly in the minds of locals as its how we use it, not how outsiders percive them. Dont take that statement as a definate but as an observation of guests i meet in my work. Incidentally i will be workin in the marriott soon so expect some great pics!

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Llandaff in Cardiff

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spooky house or what!

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Sorry, I know some of these are shots of individual buildings rather than streetscapes, but I've tried to put them in a bit of location context

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St Mary's
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__Ez-YNQ01iw/RcOwvc1DTzI/AAAAAAAAAGk/5Ju9Cy-cohs/s1600/Wilberforce%27s%2Bchurch.jpg

Holy Trinity

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Great pictures of Hull. I think it really looks quite a handsome city.

Cheers James.

It isn't though. It's Crap Town UK(c) ;)

Until we join the Netherlands, anyway.

Hull is a shithole ^^ don't let them photos convince you.

:colgate:

Are you talking to yourself?

Well, I was pleasantly surprised by Hull when I visited to do a concert in Holy Trinity a couple of years ago. I'd be lying if I said it felt prosperous and beautiful, but there are a lot of very fine buildings in the centre, and some very pleasant suburbs. It just feels very much like it's been allowed to decline over the years. Some focused regeneration around the centre could work wonders.

Is it just me, or does the prominence of the foreign number plate in this photo make the street look better, presumably on the 'things are always nicer abroad' principle?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4894833418_9f4eedb896_b.jpg

Oh look. I found another one.

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Thanks for the comments Daib. I don't know when you visited but there has been a fair amount of regeneration in the last few years. You can see bits of it in some of those pics.

Slowly but surely the city centre is starting to attract back some of the spend from it's (very) affluent western East Riding suburbs, and it is improving all the time, even now.

Hull is a shithole ^^ don't let them photos convince you.

Well you'd know, being from Leeds n' all.

I would not say its that bad, but i have to agree with you its not great but this is just my opinion

Settles that then.

I'm not saying its horrible i just not a big fan if you like haha

Well, I was pleasantly surprised by Hull when I visited to do a concert in Holy Trinity a couple of years ago. I'd be lying if I said it felt prosperous and beautiful, but there are a lot of very fine buildings in the centre, and some very pleasant suburbs. It just feels very much like it's been allowed to decline over the years. Some focused regeneration around the centre could work wonders.


August 2008 I think it was. I only really had time for a brief walk around the centre, and that was at that early evening time when a lot of British town centres feel a bit desolate after the day people have gone home and the night people are yet to arrive. It's possible I didn't get the best impression as a result...! But as I say I was struck by the quality of architecture around the place. My friend was attending Hull University at the time which I visited on a couple of occasions; seemed to be in a lovely area.

I'll tell you what does Hull no favours - and I'm about to experience it this weekend - and that's the parts of the city you can see from the road routes through the city to the Ferry Terminals. Bloody awful impression of the place suggesting it's nothing but run down docks, overgrown wasteland and piss poor residential areas. A fleeting view of the Cathederal from the bridge over the River Hull is about as good as the view gets.

Now, there's little you can do about this - at the end of the day it is a dual carriageway to the docks - so I'm not criticising Hull for 'letting it be that way' but I'd certainly put it forward as an explanation for its bad reputation given the number of visitors to the city for whom that is the only experience.

It wouldn't surprise me if people have taken that Hedon Road route and thought that is what the whole city is like.

That industrial area around the eastern docks was annihalated in WWII and when it came round to rebuilding it the age of Victorian warehouses and dockside buildings had gone, although they survive at the more central regenerated docks.

Continual demoliton and rebuilding, road widening and entry into the age of the tin shed, alongside land parcels limited by freight line sidings and other infrastructure has left the immediate area looking neglected and piecemeal, but it isn't really, beyond the barbed wire and bramble bushes the eastern docks are where the magic happens. There's still a lot of interesting cool shit and historical romance of the seas amongst the roadside butty vans, plant hire firms and Hull nick in that particular bit of the city, but your point is a valid one. If that was my main experience of the city I doubt I would be impressed.

As an aside, I reckon Rotterdam suffers at the other end from a similar perception. Being Holland's second city and more well known the effect is lessened, but I can never believe the amount of people who say it is just an 'industrial shithole' when all they have seen is the Europoort before connecting to somewhere else!

People can be rather silly. Ports are industrial, they are going to look it! There's nothing particularly run down about the docks on Hedon Road, what's left of St. Andrew's on the other side of the city is pretty bad at the moment though. Most cities have approaches that aren't all that attractive, if the city is the destination and has a good reputation people will forget all about it but if they are passing through to a ferry terminal or some such it defines the place! To pick an extreme example, imagine if people judged Manchester by the scenery on its radial routes...:puke:

I've always found Rotterdam very pleasant for some reason that I can't quite put my finger on despite it being destroyed in WWII, probably the river and the port, and the atmosphere it gives. I think there is some truth in what legolamb says with the perceptions of people who just drive past the port on the way to flippin Amsterdam. It's the biggest port in Europe and has a lot of industries within it, but some people seem to think that that is Rotterdam, that there isn't a city as well! Or that it isn't possible for a place to have industry and be pleasant. A good job that that isn't true, given how often we hear people lament the reduction in the UK's manufacturing industry over the years.

People can be rather silly. Ports are industrial, they are going to look it!

Well I'm not being naive or 'silly' - read my post again and you will see I quite clearly accept that the view of the city from the main road is neither a fair representation of the city itself nor the fault of any kind of poor planning etc. I merely put it forward as a face-value reason as to why Hull is sometimes thought of badly.

I completely agree with Legolamb - you get the exact same experience on the other side of the sea. Rotterdam may be very pretty but so far my only experience of it is 10 miles of empty docks.

The main approach into Hull from the west isnt great either but thats because its a dual carriageway built in the 1980s to purposely bypass the residential areas to the north. However, as a result you can get right into the heart of the city in no time at all,

The previous main route from the west along boothferry road/Anlaby Road takes you through Hessle which is a decent area, but closer to the city centre it starts to get a bit run down in places.

Rotterdam port is mostly located outside of the city itself, and is one of the busiest in the world so hardly empty (from end to end the port is about 25 miles). People who pass it from the ferry are mostly going somewhere else, so that will be all they see, but it is silly when some of them assume that that *is* Rotterdam. This is a problem that only port cities really experience because in most cases people travelling through a city will be going to it, so will excuse what they see on radial routes to some extent, whereas if they're just going to the ferry terminal they won't see the centre just the roads but are often silly enough not to realise this. My comment about silliness was not directed at you AndrewC but was a response to someone else's post, legolamb's I think.

Rotterdam's situation is different again because it isn't quite so out on a limb as Hull and is on some major routes through the Netherlands, but the port itself is of course still is relatively out on a limb, the major roads along the port don't really go anywhere other than the port itself and a relatively rural area around the Rhine delta so it is still only those travelling to/from the port that will see it. Most people travelling around the city on the major road network will get the same impression you do travelling around most cities, i.e. a few motorways and distant residential areas or sound barriers, and not see the port at all. Travelling past a lot of other European cities you can get grimmer impressions than you do in Britain of tower blocks etc, but these places will often have well known, attractive centres so again people will excuse it. Short of destroying the ports or erecting huge screens with beautiful scenes on them, there isn't really anything that can be done about it. Major roads and ports are rarely conventionally beautiful places, and indeed AndrewC it's a pity a lot of people can't realise this

Some lesser photographed parts of Belfast (With one or 2 more familiar buildings) Hopefully these pics help to show how green the city is.

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Lovely pics ^^

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Fantastic Belfast pics. Really feels like a big city from that.

Liverpool

Michael Checkland (http://www.flickr.com/photos/serenphotos/4910883596/in/pool-52242121198@N01/)
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Just had a look at Hudersfield, surprised no one has mentioned it, though seems another place spoilt by a ring road.

Just had a look at Hudersfield, surprised no one has mentioned it, though seems another place spoilt by a ring road.

Hudersfield is a horrible depressing place imo

Hudds has a great central square and a beautiful train station and the suburbs are really nice as well. I wouldn't recommend it for a night out though, if you're from Leeds, as the natives don't take too kindly to Leodesians dropping by...:lol:

Liverpool

tommypatto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tompatto/2202765086/in/pool-595503@N24/)
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The Victoria Quarter's big 20th birthday
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/leeds/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8958000/8958046.stm

I've never liked that roof or it's associated giant bolts and poles. It's a bit of a travesty to do that to such a charming little row of buildings. Imagine how much worse it's gonna look in 30 years too.

I suppose it has a had a great regenerating effect on that part of the city and boosted the quality of retail though.

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Leeds city centre's oldest building :

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Liverpool - Part of the Mathew Street Festival yesterday

brian.mason32 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33593746@N03/4945022670/in/pool-52242121198@N01/)
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Liverpool

liverpix (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpix/4943897747/in/pool-52242121198@N01/)
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I like McCoy Wynne's take on Exchange Flags..

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x167/yoshef/ExchangeFlags-1.jpg

an interesting view of Church Street, by Flickerything, John Langan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40809870@N06/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4961236250_e59c0ff86d_b.jpg


A view down The Strand by Gavin Livingston (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinlivingston/)

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a similar view by Joe White (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe-white/), but this one partially including the fine Tower Building on the left.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4888738535_f1d473feb9_b.jpg


Looking up Water Street, by Keeweeman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinfreeman/)
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Anyobe watched this? A great documentary on 18-19th century architecture in the North.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00tnw4p/Peoples_Palaces_The_Golden_Age_of_Civic_Architecture_NeoClassical/

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Eugh so much clutter in those pictures.....:ohno: Talking of which another thing that gets on my nerves, although not as much as the clutter, is the awful gaudy plastic/neon shopfronts! Whats wrong with the old ones?

Beautiful -

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/3779526656_b7ec89ee0a_b.jpg

As is this, though this one is modern, since I saw exactly the same shopfront in London, good to see that somebody is doing something right!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/4898608134_227d02cc7a_b.jpg