You're one evil mutha! Shocking cruelty and perversion.

Well then I would use the official definition, associated with for ceremonial purposes but not a part of it :yes:

I can't be defeated that easily fool mwa ha ha.

well telford is in Shropshire.





so take that! http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/swordfight.gif

Go funk yourself :mad2:

So Shrewsbury is Telford's capital? ;)

funk! *dances*

Exeter is a very nice city.

of the small medium cities i've visited regularily it would go:

1)Bath
2) Exeter
3) Worcester

and for the really small cities it would be:
1)Truro
2)Wells
3)the other one

:yes:

EDIT: Exeter has the nicest colour sandstone. :happy:

Ely?

never been.

but yes. Ely it is.

I thought you meant Ripon.

never been.

but yes. Ely it is.

:) Damn, I'm good.

I thought you meant Ripon.

barely heard of the place :tongue3:

some pics. (from that thread)

Montpelier/Stokes Croft/St Pauls/St Andrews

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Montpelier%20and%20St%20Andrews/CSC_0279.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Montpelier%20and%20St%20Andrews/CSC_0276.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Montpelier%20and%20St%20Andrews/CSC_0296.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/St%20pauls%20and%20Stokes%20Croft/CSC_0358.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/St%20pauls%20and%20Stokes%20Croft/CSC_0231.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Montpelier%20and%20St%20Andrews/CSC_0343-1.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/St%20pauls%20and%20Stokes%20Croft/CSC_0379.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/St%20pauls%20and%20Stokes%20Croft/CSC_0233.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/1304246195_04974be90e_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/770635675_decb916a74_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1173/544592764_8232ff825d_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/544403238_41c3a103b8_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/764149824_acd5335ba1_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1167/663521435_60c0e80493_o.jpg
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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/564525000_3970aa4727_b.jpg
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I see most forumers have simply voted for their own cities...

I see most forumers have simply voted for their own cities...

thats what i thought, how liverpool is behind the likes of leeds in the poll is a bit of an odd one otherwise! no offense, loiners

So Shrewsbury is Telford's capital? ;)

Bastard.

thats what i thought, how liverpool is behind the likes of leeds in the poll is a bit of an odd one otherwise! no offense, loiners

I agree Yoshef, some quality pics you have there!

I agree Yoshef, some quality pics you have there!

they're not mine, they're the product of perusing flickr instead of working (don't tell my boss :lol:)

Ripon- Cathedral City in North Yorkshire (Diocese of Ripon and Leeds; Leeds' Anglican Cathedral is at Ripon where the Bishop is seated). It's in the borough of Harrogate; I think its population is about 15,000?

And as for voting for Leeds; well I do think that at street level it is superior. Unlike many UK cities, it largely escaped the 60's blighting that diseased so many cities (particularly Manchester and Birmingham). It also escaped alot of bombing, and so is left with most of the buildings it had since Edwardian times, leaving an elegant urban streetscape.

http://www.leedscivictrust.org.uk/barran.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10816453@N00/465060641/
Where there are some ugly buildings, there have been efforts to clean them up and present them well like Greek Street http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnseb/188341200/ and Infirmary Street http://www.flickr.com/photos/8861947@N06/542639697/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7540239@N05/1336945318/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7540239@N05/1342414784/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10816453@N00/464012927/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7540239@N05/1341524917/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7540239@N05/1323365653/

I see most forumers have simply voted for their own cities...

Yep, i'd have voted for Hull but that wasnt an option :lol: so i chose Manchester.

Yep, i'd have voted for Hull but that wasnt an option :lol: so i chose Manchester.

What was your reasoning behind choosing Manchester? Out of interest. :)

I voted Glasgow, surely the furthest from where I actually live.

What was your reasoning behind choosing Manchester? Out of interest. :)

Well i've seen some photos of the shopping streets being quite attractive with very few 60s concrete horrors that you get in most other places so thats why i chose it. Also some of the modern architecture is quite stunning. Well i'm off to Manchester for the first time next week so i'll see if its as good as i thought.

i voted for Glasgow (agessss ago...)

i do like seeing Canning town :yes:

Well i've seen some photos of the shopping streets being quite attractive with very few 60s concrete horrors that you get in most other places so thats why i chose it. Also some of the modern architecture is quite stunning. Well i'm off to Manchester for the first time next week so i'll see if its as good as i thought.

I hope you enjoy it! You planning on visiting any of Glasgow, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, etc soon too or have you already been to these places? Let us know what you think of Manchester anyway.

Been to Leeds thats it and i'll probably venture across to Liverpool sometime next year. Unfortunately i didnt see all of Leeds as i was unaware that the shopping area went much further north up to the Headrow. Infact i didnt even get to there - i stayed within reach of the station. Manchester i guess is more of a maze of streets so i think a map will be handy.

Even with missing out a lot of the city centre i got a good impression, probably helped that i didnt see the 60s shopping centres north of the Headrow. Parts of Briggate are very nice so are the streets to either side.

Is that new Argos advert (the Christmas one) filmed in downtown Newcastle?

^^it looks like it :yes:

(i see i wasn't the only one who was thinking that :shifty:)

Is that new Argos advert (the Christmas one) filmed in downtown Newcastle?

yes it is, good spot!

Been to Leeds thats it and i'll probably venture across to Liverpool sometime next year. Unfortunately i didnt see all of Leeds as i was unaware that the shopping area went much further north up to the Headrow. Infact i didnt even get to there - i stayed within reach of the station. Manchester i guess is more of a maze of streets so i think a map will be handy.

Even with missing out a lot of the city centre i got a good impression, probably helped that i didnt see the 60s shopping centres north of the Headrow. Parts of Briggate are very nice so are the streets to either side.

Well in some ways yes, but in others you missed alot. The Merrion and St. John's Centre are not good architecturally. But that's about it. The Light and The Cube are both good modern buildings, and The Headrow axis has high quality, grand archtecture. But north of The Headrow there is alot of buildings with high quality architecture, particularly around Millennium Square and Victoria Gardens.

Thanks for the confirmation men. You can generally tell that area of Newcastle, but in the ad it is all close ups, so looks like it could also have been parts of Glasgow or even Bath! The give away for me though is the stone bridge stantion in one of the first scenes... great place!

Can somebody find this argos ad and post it up? I'm intruiged now..

This British Heart Foundation advert has some great shots..

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^that's a great ad for cityscapes twiz. liverpool is an incredibly photogenic city.

this is the argos ad, click on 'play' to watch it if you hadn't worked it out:

http://www.visit4info.com/details.cfm?adid=51831

Newcastle has the rudest shoppers.

I never had an problem, Maybe it's your Bristol accent confusing them?

Man in Newcastle United top carlessly walking around corner into Man in Bristol Cities top: "Way-hey Man, Pardo' me I'm sure, kinda canny loke"

Man with Bristol Cities: "Ooh Arrh.. What' ye be callin' my mother?"

etc. etc.

Well, that didn't work as well as I'd hoped.

:pet:

i was referring to the argos ad stephenage!

Oh, I appear foolish now!

what do you mean now? ;)

As in before I made that mistake I didn't look foolish, But now after I made the mistake,I do.







Oh, hang on, I've done it again havn't I?

:yes: :devil:

here's the culprit! Newcastle

Nice enough street, one of the grandest in the UK? Not for me.

Just a couple of streets from Newcastle below, Grey Street and Grainger street. Newcastle is vastly under-rated and stands alongside any other city listed in this poll for me.

Grainger Street,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n2.jpg

Grey Street

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n9.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n6.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n5.jpg

Did you see the other pics I posted of Newcastle? Freaking awesome.

:yes: i feel a total bumpage of other pics is in order quite soon.

:cheers:

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He obviously appreciates that fine stone architecture.

Wahey!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n2-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n3-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n4-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n6-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n9-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n10.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n12.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n14.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n15.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n16.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/n17.jpg

what are the local stones used in Dewsbury (and around) and the ones in Newcastle called?

Lovely pictures of Newcastle. I really need to go visit some time. It's about the only major city in the UK that i've not visited.

Here's some very autumnal pictures of Sheffield courtesy of tbramwell:

A few random sheffield photos i took today.. thought id upload them on here. :):banana:

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131682_2116.jpg http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131678_858.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131681_1802.jpg http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131674_9596.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131680_1485.jpg http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131688_4046.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131686_3406.jpg http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131685_3090.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131684_2770.jpg http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131683_2442.jpg

some of those look very brochure/magazine-esque :happy:

^^ Best present dogscape? ^^

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/16/115/502704500/n502704500_131674_9596.jpg

thats an actual building, its amazing what they can build now!

thats an actual building, its amazing what they can build now!

:lol:

Yep. It's our brand new 109875298375 storey tower. Suprisingly named 'dog'. :shifty:

-and it's Nimby resistant as it can move on it's own. :yes:

Been to Manchester for the first time, like i said and it probably did justify me saying its the best despite the weather being dull and drizzly. What also made it look nice was the new additions, making the shopping areas especially look really smart such as the new Arndale extention, the NEXT building and the street (didnt see the name) with the upmarket shops - Luis Vuitton, Hobbs ect.
Really like the street paving - didnt look dirty or grubby and the steps in front of the big wheel caught my eye. Ok there were dodgy areas and some run down areas of the city centre but they were mostly tucked away from the main shopping area and on the whole i was well impressed. Would have liked to see it in some better weather though.

You know the word for Light Drizzle in Mancunian is the same as their word for sky?

Fascinating :happy:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/CSC_0514.jpg

:happy: That is a nice picture :yes:

It doesn't look like a British city though.

Que?


if those first buses weren't there then maybe :|

Great scene. What a beautiful church tower.

It's not a church.

is Maureen's still there?

It's not a church.



Is that the polite way of saying it's actually a Cathedral! :lol:

No, it's the downright RUDE way of saying it's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_University_of_Bristol_admissions_row

It's actually the University tower :yes:

It's not a church.

is Maureen's still there?

I'm not sure, :crazy2: the building is currently occupied by this cafe bar thingamachu called Java (they've installed their own neon sign under the Mauretania sign) before that it was ccupied by Bar III.

I was under the impression that there was a bar called the Mauretania, but it seems it's not at all (rather it just has a bar and lounge that was from the ship and was called whatever company etc. was occuping the building etc.).

No, it's the downright RUDE way of saying it's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_University_of_Bristol_admissions_row

Ah. we're just ignorent, bloody nice building though!

Someone's on the rag today.

Yeah helium that's a bloody good picture - fantastic, clean, busy scene - I like it :)

:bowtie:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/CSC_0514.jpg

Sweet! Were it not for the no.54 to Stockwood and friend, that would be a nailed-on desktop wallpaper.

buses have their...













charm :| :shifty:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/CSC_0514.jpg

You see that bustop, well that is where my first love split up with me for a second time.....ahhh memories lol

Bull ring:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/Erebus555/Birmingham%2006/DSCF1232.jpg


lol you see that cafe, my ex Amy worked there....she had pink hair or possibly blonde and black by then....she split up with me as well.

Again...ahh the memories. LOL.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/CSC_0514.jpg

You see that bustop, well that is where my first love split up with me for a second time.....ahhh memories lol

fantastic pic!

You seem to have a luck for being dumped by landmarks, Zenith :yes: :pet:

(as in the setting, not actual landmarks breaking up with you...)

lol Aww :) thanks Helium....I'm wondering if there's any more!

Well not technically a street (as only one side has a building) but worthy none the less

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2002274064_de2a52dbc6_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/303496628_137ed9b8e4.jpg?v=0

:)

Some interesting ones from Cardiff

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2015227629_7153d2cc1f_o.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/sandraanstiss/2015221657_fa1f320704_o.jpg

Theres been some pics of Hull before but heres some more.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8999/picture223qc9.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4180/picture221bc2.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5636/picture220ff5.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3963/picture067ps1.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1739/picture059yk7.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1703/picture123ct2.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/774/picture104gp6.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5980/picture216bg1.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9885/picture101ef9.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/462/picture074dj6.jpg

The thing is there, is that theres some really good streetscape. The first image shows an excellent streetscape, but it's completely let down by the names. The garish shopfronts and signs with the cheap low quality brands (Orange, PriceLess shoes, Birthdays...) are what you would expect in an average town, not a city. Better shops would enhance the streetscape.

Nice pics of both places. :yes:

Some Sheffield one's by various posters:

Kyle Emmerson:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%203/591d997f.png
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%203/42dd1b36.png
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%203/9e11c2a5.png
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%202/tram.png
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%202/DSC00111.jpg

Arepeejee:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/1903397577_08525b5455.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2233/1830151462_4f5b7f2903.jpg

AndrewC:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/114/0/279202304/n279202304_1158902_5376.jpg
http://photos-304.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v125/114/0/279202304/n279202304_1093996_9500.jpg

The thing is there, is that theres some really good streetscape. The first image shows an excellent streetscape, but it's completely let down by the names. The garish shopfronts and signs with the cheap low quality brands (Orange, PriceLess shoes, Birthdays...) are what you would expect in an average town, not a city. Better shops would enhance the streetscape.

Thats very true. Although at the moment the higher quality retailers such as Zara and Jane Norman are attracted to the Princess Quay and St Stephens shoping centres where there are larger and better quality units available. Whitefriargate, in the top pic is doing its best to remain one of the main shopping streets but with the new St Stephens shoping centre in the west of the city centre it is becoming less attractive as a shopping street. Thankfully there is a planned refurbishment and a whole new image for the street which will house many cafes, restaurants, apartments and speciality shops and act as a gateway to the old town.

The 2nd pic down, King Edward Street, also isnt really home to anything special and i doubt will be in the future considering the transformation of the other areas. But looking streets such as Whitefriargate and King Edward really does give a false impression of the shops in the city centre as the city centre is anchored around the 3 shopping centres: Prospect, Princes Quay and St Stephens. Although the £300m Quay West developoment will give a much needed boost to the quality of retail on offer and, most importantly, will consity solely of open pedestrianised streets.

That street though would be perfect for smaller boutique type shops though. Doesn't necessarily have to be big names. And to be honest, you could have pretty average names with good presentation. Although it's starting to gentrify now, these streets/arcades were originally pretty average. The shops on them weren't (and some still aren't) that amazing- but because there's a general masterplan and style, they can still be presented well. And as I've just said, once you have this immaculate presentation sorted, it attracts better quality shops. And that street in Hull (top) seems to be the model street for this to happen.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/isemantics/225130967/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sovietuk/176639209/

That street could transform with little effort into the King Edward Street or King Street of Hull.

Thats the good end of the street, the other is a bit more littered with boarded up shop units but still no less impressive architecturally its just ts a fair old walk across the city centres to get to that area so many shops are closing down. Again some could say Whitefriargate is declining and run down but if you look up its got some really impressive architecture to work with which as you say the shop names dont reflect.

Some streetscapes from around Brighton (hope I haven't posted too many pics)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/1655163099_88b285bac9_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/1655908280_098c33273b_o.jpg

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/1656098552_c990bb6310_o.jpg


Shame about the building on the left - spoilt by a massive 2 floor poundland store!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/1656103498_3c6bcfdb2e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/1656108358_32adb3e981_o.jpg

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/1655260453_acb948f4a8.jpg?v=1192895278

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Nice one! :okay: :banana:

Very nice!

I love the look of all the tall old buildings in Brighton. :yes:

oops - see below

check out this photo of Liverpool's Chinatown (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2038881356&size=o)

thats a very small chinatown. so small, it no longer exists!

ooh you're going to get it now! :eek:

thats a very small chinatown. so small, it no longer exists!

:lol: i take it you mean the link died! I think the chap is playing with the image http://www.flickr.com/photos/barneyfinlayson/2038189903/

^^ here's the image by barneyfinlayson from flickr:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2124/2038189903_62e6c9d8e4_o.jpg
"Liverpool's Chineese Arch, marking the oldest Chinatown in Europe. 44 ft high and originally costing £220000 when opened in 2000."


Some European Chinatowns have extraordinary histories while others are still relatively new developments. Many early Chinese traders settled in several European port cities and established several communities. The oldest chinatown in Europe is in Liverpool, England. It was established in the early 1800s when Liverpool began importing cotton and silk from Shanghai. In the 1910s, Mainland Chinese labourers from the Zhejiang province who remained in France established the first Chinatown of Paris. There are other Chinese who "jumped ship" to Europe after working as hired hands on European ships or docks.

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Chinatowns in the UK are not heavily residential, the Chinese in the UK are relatively dispersed, and do not form ethnic enclaves as in many other countries, although the highest number are to be found in large cities and in the South-East. The United Kingdom has several Chinatowns, including the largest one in central London, located in the Soho area, established in the 1950s and 1960s. Other UK Chinatowns are found in the English cities of Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle, the Scottish cities of Glasgow and Edinburgh, the Welsh capital Cardiff and a growing population of Chinese immigrants are present in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

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The Chinatown in Liverpool in the Merseyside area is on Duke Street and is home to the oldest Chinese community in Europe. The arch located at the gateway is also the largest of its kind outside of China. It has been under regeneration.

Not that anyone cares :(

Not that anyone cares :(

:yes:




;) :pet:

Chinatowns in the UK are not heavily residential, the Chinese in the UK are relatively dispersed, and do not form ethnic enclaves as in many other countries, although the highest number are to be found in large cities and in the South-East. The United Kingdom has several Chinatowns, including the largest one in central London, located in the Soho area, established in the 1950s and 1960s. Other UK Chinatowns are found in the English cities of Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle, the Scottish cities of Glasgow and Edinburgh, the Welsh capital Cardiff and a growing population of Chinese immigrants are present in Belfast, Northern Ireland.


But not, apparently, Birmingham, with our invisible China Town :ohno:

But not, apparently, Birmingham, with our invisible China Town :ohno:

no you have a gay-irish-chinese quarter, :tongue2: can't be too many of those around... Yet. :shifty:

no you have a gay-irish-chinese quarter, :tongue2: can't be too many of those around... Yet. :shifty: Can a town have a China Town? Maybe not, because that would make it two towns, wouldn't it? Perhaps that's why Bristol wasn't mentioned.:lol:

no you have a gay-irish-chinese quarter, :tongue2: can't be too many of those around... Yet. :shifty:

It was known as the chinese quarter well before it became the gay village as well, the irish quarter is actually in Digbeth, and is seperate from the Chinese/gay quarter at the moment.

I think there will be a continuing seperation of the Chinese quarter and gay village, The chinese quarter will end up much more into Digbeth, while I think the gay village will go the opposite way, past the Hippodrome towards Bristol St (not Bristol).

Anyway, enough of me talking rubbish.

It was known as the chinese quarter well before it became the gay village as well, the irish quarter is actually in Digbeth, and is seperate from the Chinese/gay quarter at the moment.

I think there will be a continuing seperation of the Chinese quarter and gay village, The chinese quarter will end up much more into Digbeth, while I think the gay village will go the opposite way, past the Hippodrome towards Bristol St (not Bristol).

Anyway, enough of me talking rubbish.

it was a joke i read a while back on the Brum forum :yes: :doh:

it was a joke i read a while back on the Brum forum :yes: :doh:

Lol, sorry, didnt see it on the brum forum. :nuts:

No I agree, every city should have a chinese-irish-gay quarter. :baeh3: :colgate:

It's a very specialised quarter.

Had to post these by Adman..

http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/sunset001.jpg

http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/novsunset001.jpg

:okay:

Love Adman and his pics :banana:

the clouds in the first pic look like mountains :happy:

I love the Ballistrades, is that St Martins Bank? Or that one next to it who's name escapes me?

I wasn't a fan of Unity buildings, but the way the step back and cladding matches that of the taller more imposing Beetham West makes it seem more in keeping and less of a standout building, which improves it, in a way I'm having trouble describing!

I love the Ballistrades, is that St Martins Bank? Or that one next to it who's name escapes me?

I wasn't a fan of Unity buildings, but the way the step back and cladding matches that of the taller more imposing Beetham West makes it seem more in keeping and less of a standout building, which improves it, in a way I'm having trouble describing!

Pretty sure it's the India Buildings. I love the fact that we've got enough of these awesome buildings to get them confused, they both had the same architect - Herbert James Rowse from Crosby.

Martins Bank:
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/stewartbale/graphics/large/martins_bank_exterior.jpg

Both on the same street/streetscape too, along with the Liver and Cunard Buildings. :banana:

Can a town have a China Town? Maybe not, because that would make it two towns, wouldn't it? Perhaps that's why Bristol wasn't mentioned.:lol:


strange, as to what this has to do with anything :|

Bristols been a city (1542) for hundreds of years far longer than the 'pool, (1880) oh and unlike Liverpool, it's a city that people actually want to live in, and in a much nicer part of the country too!:baeh3:


Pwned.

(i do actually love Liverpool very much mind, but seeing as we're making spineless comments i guess its fair game eh? :|)

Pretty sure it's the India Buildings. I love the fact that we've got enough of these awesome buildings to get them confused, they both had the same architect - Herbert James Rowse from Crosby.

Martins Bank:
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/stewartbale/graphics/large/martins_bank_exterior.jpg

Both on the same street/streetscape too, along with the Liver and Cunard Buildings. :banana:

Which is the one behind the Town Hall? I thought that was Martins Bank, and the one in the picture was the one who's name I couldn't remember.

Don't think the picture was taken From India Building, or else you'd be looking directly over the Space 1999 building.

Oh, hang on, it dosn't matter! Just ignore me!

Sorry, I thought you were asking which building was on the left of the first pic, which is the India Buildings, and taken from Martins Bank. The second pic I think is also taken from Martins Bank so yeah you were right in the first place. Behind the Town Hall is Exchange Flags with Martins Bank just to the side of it. I think Exchange Flags is the one you can't remember?

Of course!

Had to post these by Adman..



Great photos those.

Great photos those.

I agree, lovely pics, cheers Twiz & Adman!

liverpool looks really nice in them pix. excellent photos

strange, as to what this has to do with anything Nothing really, except to get up your nose and it seems to have been successful. Remember, what you shall sow, so shall you reap.:poke:

oh stop trolling sloyne, you vile scary pensioner

:lol:

oh stop trolling sloyne, you vile scary pensioner Well you see Wiggley, Helium (methane gas suits him better), not unlike yourself, has a penchant for slagging Liverpool and I have this penchant for replying in kind. Which, judging by the response it elicits, seems to be quite successful. So, the solution to me ceasing with the defense of Liverpool would seem to be obvious, well at least to mature individuals, just stop slagging Liverpool. So how about it, you deviate scary felcher?:rofl:

Helium's loverly, :hug: leave him alone.

Helium's loverly, :hug: leave him alone.

:hug:

Helium's loverly, :hug: leave him alone.

:yes: He slags everywhere off, its how you know if he likes you or not. If he doesn't say owt about where you are from, that is when you worry.

Well you see Wiggley, Helium (methane gas suits him better), not unlike yourself, has a penchant for slagging Liverpool and I have this penchant for replying in kind. Which, judging by the response it elicits, seems to be quite successful. So, the solution to me ceasing with the defense of Liverpool would seem to be obvious, well at least to mature individuals, just stop slagging Liverpool. So how about it, you deviate scary felcher?:rofl:

sly-one suits you better :yes:

and i don't have a penchant for slagging Liverpool, i've given it far more praise than you have to my current location, if anything its you who have a thing against Ol' Brizzle, seeing as you suddenly mention it in a negative way for no apparrent reason and out of the blue :baeh3: http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/armscrossed.gif
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/dance.gif

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/031-7.jpg

Looks like Santa (Father Christmas for those people...) and John Bright are having a stand off! :eek:

Looks like Santa (Father Christmas for those people...) and John Bright are having a stand off! :eek:

It's not Santa, it's Zippy in disguise.

Im even more terrified now! :eek:

how on earth did you know that was john bright helium? :sly:

John Bright's the pudgy orange one, right? :angel:

The one they had climbing the buildingh was funny and good. This one is shite, same as loads of other places.. bring the burglar Santa back!

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/031-7.jpg

I think santa makes it quite cheap and comercial, rather than other things associated with christmas that arnt about greed and presents.

I think santa makes it quite cheap and comercial, rather than other things associated with christmas that arnt about greed and presents.

hippy

from another angle :tongue3:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Clifton%20area/CSC_0553a.jpg

For those that dont remember
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/CSC_0514.jpg

Why are you so low down taking the bottom pic? It looks like you're sitting in the road or something.

:sly:

rudeness!

More Hull

Somethings that you can't have inland :

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/100d3911ay3.jpg

Humber Quays 2, nearing completion

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/100d3903fa3.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/1364527515_61f298261c.jpg

And heading away from the water :

Parliament Street
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/23240574_aac1f81f79.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/339024664_cd607eb044.jpg

The stunning Hepworths Arcade.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/424378093_dadbb1251d-1.jpg
And the city's newest street, the smart new St Stephens main street, also known as Margaret Moxon Way, home to 30 new shops including Zara, H&M, Lab, Topshop Topman, restaurants and bars, including Prezzo, Revive, Starbucks and Nando's, a 9 Screen Reel Cinema, a hotel, Hull Truck Theatre U/C opening '08, 220 new homes U/C, the Albermarle Music Centre, and in talks with a casino operator. Also, a new transport interchange sits adjacent to the scheme. Total cost £200 Million. Pictures :

At night, a few days after it's opening day, 20th September. The hotel, dormant here, is now up and running.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/1424110389_18e3ec0d90_o.jpg
Soon after opening, this view is now different with the empty units taken/open.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/1429870334_cbae0ace58.jpg
The end of the covered street.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/1576047485_aacf57068f.jpg

Parliament Street
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z48/Dominicfromyork/23240574_aac1f81f79.jpg

apart from the Boots, the street looks like something you'd find in London :happy:

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Nice one mate:) Thank god for our tenemants, great, quality, spacious accomodation, sustaining dense, vibrant neighbourhood stretching for miles from the city centre.

pisses on the english provincial cities, doesn't it?

I wouldn't say so; Glasgow has huge areas of estates as well- just like any other city. Liverpool is a good example; has lots of really good buildings; like around Hope Street, but also has deprived areas.

I wouldn't say so; Glasgow has huge areas of estates as well- just like any other city. Liverpool is a good example; has lots of really good buildings; like around Hope Street, but also has deprived areas.

But not on the scale of Glasgow, thats the point. Who mentioned estates?

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nice photos of glasgow. The fact that glasgow is experiencing virtually no high rise development built or U/c probably works in its favour in producing good streetscapes, and lends more time to focus on small detailed buildings, just like in york or dewsbury.

nice photos of glasgow. The fact that glasgow is experiencing virtually no high rise development built or U/c probably works in its favour in producing good streetscapes, and lends more time to focus on small detailed buildings, just like in york or dewsbury.

It's a compliment, he promises!

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NYC, San Fransisco, Sydney, Hong Kong... all high-rise cities also famed for their vibrant streetscape/scene/life?

It's all about the density as opposed to building height :yes:
although San Francisco isn't really a high-rise city tbh

excellent points helium. SF DOES have more skyscrapers than any of our cities have, built or planned?

Skyscrapers can kill an area if it circulates around underground car park access and blank walls to street, but then so can the arse end of a two storey shopping mall? It is about adrerssing and breaking out onto the street.. and as you say, sufficeint intensity of activity to make the place live!

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So would you say that lack of new large-scale high rise projects has nothing to do with good streetscape and is irrelevant to this thread?

it depends really :yes: although i would say yes.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2101335699_9e0912446c_o.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/IMG_7571.jpg

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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/897px-Cardiff_city_hall_pano.jpg

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http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/city%20centre/DSC_0545.jpg

Nice Glasgow pics, I love 3+ story rowhouses, cant beat em.




Also these pics of cardiff remind me of the west end.




http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2101335699_9e0912446c_o.jpg


looks similar to when u step out at oxford circus, minus the congestion and people.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2106307216_85040687bd_o.jpg



covent garden market thing.

LEEDS:

taken on my mobile phone

http://i15.************/6kz6smt.jpg

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Wow!!

That pic is amazing

I think overall, it'll be the small wealthy cathedral type cities that have the best overall streetscape. Cities such as York, Oxford and Bath come to mind...

The buildings and layout themselves yes :yes: but they lack vibrancy of sorts.

Moved to next page ...

Are the cars parked down the middle of this road?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/145093237_a9c4d5e0fe_o.jpg

:dunno:

Moved to next page ...

I think overall, it'll be the small wealthy cathedral type cities that have the best overall streetscape. Cities such as York, Oxford and Bath come to mind...

i'm with you on that one

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7.jpg?v=0

That picture is amazing - good ol' St Vincent Street - do you have a bigger version of it? Where did you find it?

It was pinched off good ol' flickr. Originally posted a link below each image to original, but my posts seems to have buggered up.

Here's a larger version of the original:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7_b.jpg
gsvs4

Fecking traffic lights :bash:

I do love St Vincent Street. Some of the buildings lining it are unbelievable. Nightmare to walk up though. Like many of the streets in the GarnetHill and Blytheswood Hill area of the city centre, you might want to avoid them on icy winter mornings, or, if you enjoy seeing important people in suits humiliate themselves by sliding around on their arses, 'tis paradise.

Fecking traffic lights :bash:

Those To Let signs are more annoying, i've found :bash: :yes:

Loving the Glasgow sandstone :happy:

A few pictures showing some of Sheffields nice older streets/buildings:

Just some randoms off my phone in the city centre.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg164/adamblade/DSC00017.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg164/adamblade/DSC00016.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg164/adamblade/DSC00015.jpg

It's nearly Christmas, how exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:colgate:

yeah thats right unners, ok considering people are having trouble placing the building its here opposite the town hall:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/Album%203/dc2f76c8.png

Lovely Paulmat :lovethem:

im going to be a whore now though, and:



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http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/10122007204.jpg

Some recent photos of Leeds hastily snapped by me
taken with my mobile phone :O)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/22112007074.jpg
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god, how grim does leeds wanna be. there's no urbanity in it whatsoever.

god, how grim does leeds wanna be. there's no urbanity in it whatsoever.

that's probably the most trollish comment ever witnessed on these forums :ohno: Even when refuting childish attacks by the usual mob, I tend to challenge their comments with factual data that disprove their comments, rather than come out with subjective statements such as "city X is just shit".

Anyway. Firstly, this is a thread about streetscapes not a thread about urbanity, nor a thread with pics attempting to show a few select showpiece shots of the most urban built up parts of a city . :bash:

Secondly the above pics are just unsorted generic photos taken by *me*, with a mobile phone, on grim gloomy days. This is very diferent to most of the other photos on here, which tend to be professional select showpiece postcard pretty photos grabbed from the internet, to paint a picture that is always diferent from the reality.

Thirdly, despite my pics not being postcard perfect select shots, the pics dont look startlingly diferent to any of the other stuff posted here, and certainly not enough to warrant your comments. If I went round manchester on a gloomy day (well any day lol) and took random pics on my mobile that were not concentrating on urbanity and uploaded them, they'd look no diferent.

I don't understand how they're not photo's of urbanity. :dunno:

They've got large buildings, roads, no fields or farms or sheep or whatever else. What could be more urban? :dunno:

god, how grim does leeds wanna be. there's no urbanity in it whatsoever.

Thats such a blatent trollish answer! What the hell would you call 'urban' if those pictures don't show it? Get over your childsh rivalry!

Btw i really like this one wiggley! Where did you take it from?



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/22112007074.jpg

Some nice pics there wiggly, dont listen to rubbish! I especially like the night time shots.

Since I completely buggered up my last post, I thought I would spend even more of my (clearly) valuable time to recreate it for your viewing pleasure.

A Tour of Central Glasgow

Pacific Quay/Queen's Dock:
Glasgow's Media and Entertainment districts are home to one of Europe's 2 titanium clad buildings, the largest and busiest Imax in Europe and the only building in the world capable of turning 360 degrees on its base. The area is also home to the UK's largest integrated conference and exhibition centre and to one of the few dedicated conference venues able to house over 4000 delegates. The newly open BBC Scotland HQ are the most advance television broadcast and production studios in the Uk and are able to broadcast fully in HD format.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/676742_47432c21b7.jpg?v=0
neuro

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1068/822245626_cbc4bbae0e.jpg?v=0
Andy Magee

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/372268984_17047cd74f.jpg?v=0
knight Lloyd

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/1675593365_ab7faa9403.jpg?v=0
Bob the lomond

West-End
Glasgow's West end is home to the UK's 4th oldest University, the most visited museum in the UK outside London and one of the largest city central parks in the UK at over 30hectares. The area is reknowned for its bars, restaurants, clubs, boutiques and it causual and bohemian atmosphere.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/408967647_500ea9df01.jpg?v=0
Trish-N-Mike

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1144/1347334203_82be329aa0.jpg?v=0
Ewan Thompson

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/83207293_31272f84ae.jpg?v=0
bramblevine

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/14/19230160_f26d09995e.jpg?v=0
alephnaught

Merchant City
Similar to the West-End: this area is famed for being a trendy night spot and home to many of the cities best restaurants. The area is also home to Designer boutique stores, boutique hotels and live music venues. The Goma is the Uk's most visited modern art gallery outside london.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/68301847_33f99aa386.jpg?v=0
scottog

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/69/198366769_331331c164.jpg?v=0
toschi

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2299/2070052200_3b0f0d57c7.jpg?v=0
yippeedoo

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/1973171001_02e204cb69.jpg?v=0
Scott Young

International Financial Services District/Blytheswood Hill
Glasgow's business quarter is the largest financial centre outside London. Home to Glaswegian companies 'Scottish Power', 'Thus Group' and 'Clydesdale Bank' amongst others. Of the 10 largest general insurance companies in the UK 8 have a presence in this area of the city. The city's annual economic growth rate of 4.4% (second only to London) is thanks to the development of this area and influx of major companies to the city.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7.jpg?v=0
gsvs4

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/432153721_1114b802c7.jpg?v=0
John McBride

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/464486343_515f2a6585.jpg?v=0
Scott Young

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1347/576876236_bdd8733f22.jpg?v=0
Baba Mdogo

Retail Centre/Garnethill
This is the area of the city most people will be familiar with. The 2nd largest retail centre outside London is home to two city centre shopping malls in the process of expanding to 1.3m sq ft each as well as numerous designer boutiques, independant stores and the usual high street stores found everywhere. The are is also home to one of the Largest dedicated concert halls in the UK outside, the tallest and busiest cinema in the UK and a large selection of theatres in an area known as theatreland. Two mainline terminus are also located in this region. The busiest train station outside London, Glasgow Central and Queen Street. These act as a hub to the UK's largest rail network outside London.

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P.S. I do realise that some of these facts will be disputed by certain people. A quick google search will provide you with unlimited sources just so you know i've not plucked any information from my arse. Please, it's the images that are important and the information is purely background information to highlight each areas part in Glasgow, so if you absolutely must reply to it then please do so in the form of a private message and I will be happy to amend anything that causes offence, annoyance etc.

Great walkthrough there G:West. Makes me want to visit Glasgow even more!

god, how grim does leeds wanna be. there's no urbanity in it whatsoever.

Sad little wanker

Good photos Wiggles, ignore the weiners, this is how folk like him 'enjoy' themselves

He's probably called Colin, or Stuart

He's probably called Colin, or Stuart

:lol:

All these cities have some really nice areas. Ive been to Manchester and Leeds, and have to say I thought Manchesters streetscape was a lot nicer.

However, going by these photos I have voted for Glasgow.

Nice selection of pics G: West. If i had the money i'd have a flat in Glasgow and one in Birmingham and if I didn't live in Brum i'd move to Glasgow.

I must say though i've never been truly impressed with the St Enoch shopping centre although that pic of the escalators looks good. The redevelopment plans do look better though.

You should find some pics of Buchanan Street and some more of the west end near Kelvinbridge Tube to go with them ;)

I feel homesick and i don't live there.

Very nice pics of Leeds Wiggley.
Some pics of Birmingham here.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/citystreet.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/edmundst.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/NewhallSt.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/fleetst.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/phcontext.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/streetscene.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/natwestphil.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/glasstowers.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/PHcath.jpg

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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/brndlights.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/brdst.jpg

And some more of Birmingham.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/courtsmodel.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/picadillyxmas.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/gtwa1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/Image118.jpg

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Wow so many impressive buildings in Glasgow.Such a shame that the tube doesnt go there :(

i equate a successful urban streetscape with achieving urbanity. funnily enough. the city should be urban. the epitome of this is the 'big city' feel. or being 'lost' in urbanity as i've described it before. leeds has none of this.

i don't have childish rivalries, i just genuinley think that Leeds feels like a backwater town of sorts.

are we rating successful individual merits of specific buildings or public spaces here or judging the success of a streetscape?

i am right, i'm sorry and as the inspiration for this thread, (this thread was my idea) i have the authority to demand this. :yes:

yeh, unlike leonardhenry, i really am a fucking troll. i live for this shit. :|

i'm just telling you how i feel. jesus christ. leeds should be coming last in this. i have no idea how it's above liverpool.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7.jpg?v=0

I absolutely love this image. so surreal.

Yes, keep trying to dig yourself out of it, you sad pathetic little weiner

This entire forum is dominated by this childish little clique of losers and it puts normal people off

Perhaps if it wasn't dominated by Colins like you and Boards, sad little 'men' with some pitiful little agenda, it might be a more vibrant forum? Surely there are more than a dozen people in the UK interested in this topic, but they're simply put off posting here by comments like those you made

Wiggley went to the effort to post some very smart snaps as a contribution to the forum, and you respond like, well, like you always do. It's not normal

OK, I take the piss with my 'scouse gene' topics and whatnot, so perhaps I can't talk, but they're always tongue-in-cheek and most people 'get' it

But you? You're the epitome of everything that's wrong with this forum, a weird little penis with some axe or other to grind.

If you MUST use this place cathartically - making yourself feel better about your 'life' - at least don't do it when some forumer has gone to the effort to post dozens of pics by way of a CONTRIBUTION for EVERYONE, even I would never do that

i apologise to wiggley. but this is just my reaction to the photos.

i have no agenda. i think this is why you are reacting in this way, leonardhenry, you know that this is how i genuinley feel. knowing my reputation, you know that i don't troll. so it hurts. right?

i'm sorry if i'm slightly more surreal or pragmatic than most of you. but this is me. i am not childish, nor a troll.

Nice selection of pics G: West. If i had the money i'd have a flat in Glasgow and one in Birmingham and if I didn't live in Brum i'd move to Glasgow.

I must say though i've never been truly impressed with the St Enoch shopping centre although that pic of the escalators looks good. The redevelopment plans do look better though.

You should find some pics of Buchanan Street and some more of the west end near Kelvinbridge Tube to go with them ;)

I feel homesick and i don't live there.

Yeah, I think every Glaswegian would agree that the St Enoch Centre is a disgrace in its current guise. It really can't get any worse to be honest. the redevelopment is an improvement, but going by the renders of the exterior, another missed oppertunity for the city. The image i posted of the escalators is actually Princes Square, just off Buchanan Street. It's a covered area over 5 (i think) floors, housing restaurants and clubs on the top two and bottom floors and high-end retailers on the remaining 2.

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St Enoch Looks like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/376661742_8d4717b478.jpg?v=0

Apparently the largest glass building in Europe.

The Golden Z

This is the name given to Glasgow's three main shopping thoroughfares, Sauchiehall Street, Buchanan Street and Argyle Street. They have adopted this name due to the Z shape the 3 streets form with Buchanan being the vertical connecting the two horizontals. The route also includes the Buchanan Galleries, St Enoch Centre, Argyle Arcade and Princes Square malls.

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fraserspiers

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billybofh

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iwouldstay

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fraserspiers

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islandboy

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nckvrz

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euan pics

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i think this is why you are reacting in this way, leonardhenry

Relying on the old SSC canrds are we? Psychoanalysis from a Colin? I think I'll disregard your diagnosis

I don't care what your 'opinion' is, do you expect anybody to respect it after that childish, spiteful little attack?

If that was your true, heartfelt opinion of Wiggley's pictures, you wouldn't have felt it necessary to deliver it in such a derogatory and nasty way. You were attention seeking and trying to be a smartarse, people like you are ten-a-penny in real life.

Haven't you noticed yet how normal people, succesful, sociable people, don't feel the need to run things down with such spite?

For the record, I thought Wiggley's pictures captured plenty of Leeds' urbanity, even though it has 'no urbanity whatsoever'

I particularly like these 'very town like' snaps

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/12122007055.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/12122007036.jpg

I hope the comments made by the king of cool don't put anybody off posting further pics

i'm sorry if i'm slightly more surreal or pragmatic than most of you. but this is me. i am not childish, nor a troll.

What the fuck is surreal about anything you've said? Other than your claim that spite and bile are surreal?

I don't care what your 'opinion' is, do you expect anybody to respect it after that childish, spiteful little attack?

For the record, I thought Wiggley's pictures captured plenty of Leeds' urbanity, even though it has 'no urbanity whatsoever'


:|

Yeh. Sorry wiggley if i said my opinion a bit too overtly.

It genuinley makes me angry. Leeds epitomises the unsuccessfulness of british provincial towns/cities. that lack of density, that lack of urbanity. Honestly there are market towns in france and spain that feel bigger. and that is shameful.

Nobody doubts that you're an angry little chappie

I wouldn't worry about Leeds, Richard. Just concentrate on improving your own 'life' and your anger will subside and, hopefully, Leeds will shed its market town feel and become as great a metropolis as London, New York or Manchester

It genuinley makes me angry. Leeds epitomises the unsuccessfulness of british provincial towns/cities. that lack of density, that lack of urbanity. Honestly there are market towns in france and spain that feel bigger. and that is shameful.

Are you on crack or just blind? I've never seen so much bullshit written on this forum before that comment! If anything Leeds epitomises provincial cities success, from a dull, grim northern working town to a thriving economical and wealthy regional capital! You have the most blantant stigma attched to Leeds because what you're saying is the biggest load of tripe!. How on earth can you say it's not urban? Just what the hell do define as urban if a city like Leeds doesn't show it?

i apologise to wiggley. but this is just my reaction to the photos.



Thats fine then. I do think you could have worded it much much better. I dont think anyone has ever come out with such sweeping unfounded comments after someone has posted a bunch of photos.

I do think you are very misguided to call one city totally devoid of urbanity and to look like a small town just by viewing mobile phone pics that were not intended to show any urbanity. The photos look no diferent to snaps i've taken when out and about in manchester.

The majority of photos in this thread are postcard perfect carefully selected photos grabbed from the internet. To make a complete definate judgment on one city based on such select photos, but then to make an equally definate judgment of a diferent city based on random snaps not intended to show urbanity is somewhat naive. :bash:

Incidently, the photos I posted dont look any diferent to the amateur snaps above of birminghams streets. Perhaps you should take some random snaps whilst out round manchester, and post them here, as there is very very little photos of manchester's streetscapes on here, and the ones that are a select selection of postcard perfect images grabbed of the net rather from someone on these forums.

No. because i actually have similar opinions on manchester. fortunately for manchester though, there are districts which are very urban also. leeds has none. and feels like a town, when compared to cities of an equivalent size accross the world.

Nobody doubts that you're an angry little chappie

I wouldn't worry about Leeds, Richard. Just concentrate on improving your own 'life' and your anger will subside and, hopefully, Leeds will shed its market town feel and become as great a metropolis as London, New York or Manchester

:blahblah:

Here below are your 1st bunch of photos Of Manchester posted by you on this very thread: After looking at these, can I also say Manchester is shit, it looks like a small town devoid of any urbanity? Or would that be a naive sweeping statement?

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http://static.flickr.com/82/247424206_8f2de1acca.jpg?v=
http://static.flickr.com/61/182689898_cf7c84b185.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/88/214348869_7f52cc6d08.jpg?v=0

Are you on crack or just blind? I've never seen so much bullshit written on this forum before that comment! If anything Leeds epitomises provincial cities success, from a dull, grim northern working town to a thriving economical and wealthy regional capital! You have the most blantant stigma attched to Leeds because what you're saying is the biggest load of tripe!. How on earth can you say it's not urban? Just what the hell do define as urban if a city like Leeds doesn't show it?

:| I'll explain later. in depth.

no wiggley: because you'd be lying. show me some other photos of manchester, perhaps of the retail districts, say the same thing, and i'd agree.

look. i'm not some retard with a grudge on leeds (that would be insane as far as i'm concerned :| )

i've been to leeds, with an open mind, and i didn't like it. because of the reasons i stated. it lacks urbanity. an if you don't understand what urbanity is, open your fucking eyes, go look at some pictures of paris or tokyo.

im sorry but those 5 photos of manchester (posted by you) look no diferent to a small town like wakefield. Therefore, shall i make the assumption that manchester has no urbanity and is like a small town?

im sorry but those 5 photos of manchester (posted by you) look no diferent to a small town like wakefield. Therefore, shall i make the assumption that manchester has no urbanity and is like a small town?

no, because you're lying. but if you want, you can make the assumption. but i've actually been to leeds.

look. i'm not some retard with a grudge on leeds (that would be insane as far as i'm concerned :| )

i've been to leeds, with an open mind, and i didn't like it. because of the reasons i stated. it lacks urbanity. an if you don't understand what urbanity is, open your fucking eyes, go look at some pictures of paris or tokyo.

So maybe what you meant was nothing to do with the photos i posted, but rather you actually mean you dislike leeds because it lacks the urbanity of bigger cities in the UK, which incidently also lack the urbanity of comparable european cities.

no, because you're lying. but if you want, you can make the assumption. but i've actually been to leeds.

errm im not lying. from those photos, manchester could easily be a small market town, smaller than oldham's town centre, or wigan. And yes i've been to manchester too ;) was there 4 days ago.

When I looked for uni places, after the open days, one of the reasons I was more keen to choose leeds, newcastle, or liverpool was because i prefered the city centres which I personally felt had good streetscapes and a good vibe that I didnt find so much in Brum or Mancs.

So maybe what you meant was nothing to do with the photos i posted, but rather you actually mean you dislike leeds because it lacks the urbanity of bigger cities in the UK, which incidently also lack the urbanity of comparable european cities.

well, it was triggered by your photos but yeh, exactly?

errm im not lying. from those photos, manchester could easily be a small market town, smaller than oldham's town centre, or wigan. And yes i've been to manchester too ;) was there 4 days ago.

When I looked for uni places, after the open days, one of the reasons I was more keen to choose leeds, newcastle, or liverpool was because i prefered the city centres which I personally felt had good streetscapes and a good vibe that I didnt find so much in Brum or Mancs.

ok, but you're argument's irrelevant, as you were suggesting i was generalising based on the photos. when i've actually been to leeds. (this was why i pointed this out, i couldn't give a shit if you've been to manchester or not, in fact, the whole inclusion of manchester at all is irrelevant.)

so when you said:

god, how grim does leeds wanna be. there's no urbanity in it whatsoever.

you actually meant to say:

I dislike leeds because it naturally lacks the urbanity of bigger cities in the UK, which incidently also lack the urbanity of similarly sized european cities

thats cool then. Maybe you should have said that then. ;)

UK cities just dont have the urbanity of european cities. Leeds, for its size, from a solely UK perspective, does just fine in the urbanity steaks, being similar to liverpool and newcastle, despite being a smaller city. And in terms of streetscapes (not urbanity), its no better or worse than other english cities, including manchester, and birmingham.

Also, this thread is about streetscapes, not urbanity. I appreciate you think they are part of the same thing, but many argue for example that while Birmingham is visually quite urban, it doesnt have so brilliant streetscapes.

From a non skyscraper-urbanity geek's point of view, many, perhaps more, prefer the streetscapes of york, chester, bath, and edinburgh, to grimey grity large urban northern cities.

so when you said:

UK cities just dont have the urbanity of european cities. Leeds, for its size, from a solely UK perspective, does just fine in the urbanity steaks, being similar to liverpool and newcastle, despite being a smaller city. And in terms of streetscapes (not urbanity), its no better or worse than other english cities, including manchester, and birmingham.

Also, this thread is about streetscapes, not urbanity. I appreciate you think they are part of the same thing, but many argue for example that while Birmingham is visually quite urban, it doesnt have so brilliant streetscapes.

From a non skyscraper-urbanity geek's point of view, many, perhaps more, prefer the streetscapes of york, chester, bath, and edinburgh, to grimey grity large urban northern cities.

You don't half talk a lot of shite.

If I can add my two pence worth before going :shifty:

Urbanity is also contextual and linked to the historical development of our cities and towns. It can be very difficult to compare cities in like minded ways without picking clear methods of comparison because of the differences. Not least why they were founded e.g. on a river, on a hill, by some natural resources, weather, what they have experienced e.g. industrial decay, war damage, what their cultural and societal makeup is.

If you say, to be x you have to have buildings of x storey or x cars per hour on a road or whatever you can make a crude and rather rubbish comparison. A lot of our views are shaped by our views of the world on several levels through experience, political views of society, aesthetic. Ask people what they think of other cities ;)

What has been picked up by some commentators is whether our streetscapes could be replicated elsewhere because of samey shops.
There are many more interesting debates than whether it is urban.

You don't half talk a lot of shite.

oh fuck of troll. The only time you comment is to say something about it leeds. I thought it was odd you hadnt added your two pence worth

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6713/leedsruralxf9.jpg

oh fuck of troll. The only time you comment is to say something about it leeds. I thought it was odd you hadnt added your two pence worth

Oh dear, you're acute paranoia, lack of a sense of irony and general mental state worsen by the day. I think the expression you are looking for is 'fuck off' by the way. It's true though, you don't half talk a lot of shite, so my comment was perfectly valid. You continue to spew out huge generalisations about places and contradict yourself constantly. You need to give the trolling a rest too. Is it pick on Irwell week? Did he make you look stupid again? You have decided to attack him here and in the skybar section ( just another in the long line of personal attacks on people you have made since you arrived ). Cut out the trolling of all these threads and quit with the starting of your sad twat threads. No-ones impressed. You silly troll.

Oh dear, you're acute paranoia, lack of a sense of irony and general mental state worsen by the day. I think the expression you are looking for is 'fuck off' by the way. It's true though, you don't half talk a lot of shite, so my comment was perfectly valid. You continue to spew out huge generalisations about places and contradict yourself constantly. You need to give the trolling a rest too. Is it pick on Irwell week? Did he make you look stupid again? You have decided to attack him here and in the skybar section ( just another in the long line of personal attacks on people you have made since you arrived ). Cut out the trolling of all these threads and quit with the starting of your sad twat threads. No-ones impressed. You silly troll.

what a load of shite from you as usual. I detect another thread being ruined again by boards :bash:

Shooooo :)

I must admit, if i'd never been to Manchester, or seen pictures of other parts of it, those pictures wiggelyleeds posted do make it look a bit like Wakefield or Barnsley. :dunno:

I must say though, in the main retail areas of Leeds (well, the bits which people visit most) it does seem quite 'small town', but when you search a bit further out it's no different to Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool etc.

Irwell Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Find a gf, or go and troll in your newly created thread Irwell.

Now Shoooooo >>>>> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=559321

:)

If any ones trolling Wiggley, how many times did you post this in another thread, with no need.

Yes you are right. I should never have told him to stop his repetetive trolling. Suggesting he should leave his arguments for another thread was wholly unreasonably. *yawn*

look. i'm not some retard with a grudge on leeds (that would be insane as far as i'm concerned :| )

i've been to leeds, with an open mind, and i didn't like it. because of the reasons i stated. it lacks urbanity. an if you don't understand what urbanity is, open your fucking eyes, go look at some pictures of paris or tokyo.

Based on that argument then you think all british cities look grim and un-urban! Face facts, some pictures of Leeds came on, you have a grudge against Leeds and said some harsh un-justified comments about it because when other pictures of other cities come on you don't say a word, and there are plenty of other cities on this forum which based on your argument would be less urban and more grim than Leeds. No british city except London based on your argument would be urban and therefore all shit and grim. Your argument is flawed, un-justified and extremely harsh and the comment was un-called for!

Anyway..

some streetscape pics of Leeds.

Apologies if they are too rural, town like, and devoid of any urbanity.

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/24890245_ff420f1973_b.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/31234331_9a4bc49be9_b.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/31234332_e3a0c61c78_b.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/am10.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/bike_riding5.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/bike_riding9.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/BWP2033.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/CLARENCE_WIDE2.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/cornexchange.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/hands.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/leeds_4.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/leeds_2.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/LeedsPics004.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/river.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/Victoria_Bridge.jpg

Some more streetscapes of Leeds (not pics of urbanity)

millenium square with the cafe bars outside
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/1.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/2.jpg

i took this pic myself on my cam phone :D
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/3.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/4.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/5.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/6.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/7.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/8.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/9.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/a.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/c.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/d.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/e.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/f.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/g.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/h.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/j.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/k.jpg

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/streetlevel/l.jpg

Part of Leeds' Gay Quarter

http://queens-court.co.uk/Photos/court300-DSCF0808.jpg

http://queens-court.co.uk/Photos/court1/court1.jpg

http://queens-court.co.uk/Photos/HPIM0226.JPG

More Leeds & Some cafe culture

http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/2.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/3.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/5.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/6.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/7.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/8.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/9.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/c.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/d.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/e.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/f.jpg
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-streetscapes-11-july-2007/g.jpg
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Millenium Square Leeds

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Stop with all the rural photo's wiggely! :ohno:;)

I love the building behind the park in this:
http://www.asuz39.dsl.pipex.com/leeds-selection/24890245_ff420f1973_b.jpg

It's just been refurbished hasn't it?

More Leeds Streetscapes

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7760/639769133bcf56bca50bfs0.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/183197190_ff6c14940d_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/188634026_b919171542_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/188634029_bba793ece1_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/189013461_e71827f39d_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/188341200_af47a28105_b.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/citysqaure.jpg

Stop with all the rural photo's wiggely! :ohno:;)

I love the building behind the park in this:
It's just been refurbished hasn't it?

dont think it has. its great sitting out round park square on a lunch break

There's such a thing as proving your point a bit too much Wiggley lol!

eating out, Leeds

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Park Square was recently (well, not so recently now I suppose) refurbished. It was part of a programme that improved city centre spaces; if you remember, the final improvement did not take place as funding was not granted for it. This was for the redevelopment of Victoria Gardens.

Leeds Streets

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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6128/425061370992f897fc5boi9.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7760/639769133bcf56bca50bfs0.jpg

Much as I do like your photos and Leeds looks great Wiggley could we see some other cities and towns please.

How about some of Reading which is nice.

Based on that argument then you think all british cities look grim and un-urban! Face facts, some pictures of Leeds came on, you have a grudge against Leeds and said some harsh un-justified comments about it because when other pictures of other cities come on you don't say a word, and there are plenty of other cities on this forum which based on your argument would be less urban and more grim than Leeds. No british city except London based on your argument would be urban and therefore all shit and grim. Your argument is flawed, un-justified and extremely harsh and the comment was un-called for!


there's no flaw, where the fuck's the flaw?? go on, point it out. :nuts:

the bolded statements - you hit the nail on the head, yeh, exactly! Leeds epitiomises this, and feels like a town.

but no it's not that is it. automatically, despite a reputation i've tried to attain over the three years i have been a poster here, i'm a troll. you got me columbus, it was you. i am jealous of leeds. so jealous. i mean, think of all the other cities i could be jealous of. Glasgow, Liverpool, Bristol, Birmingham - all infinitely better than where you live, but no. you've unearthed the truth, you should be proud of yourself, yep. i' coming out, i'm facing the facts:

I am fucking jealous of Leeds.

so when you said:



you actually meant to say:



thats cool then. Maybe you should have said that then. ;)

UK cities just dont have the urbanity of european cities. Leeds, for its size, from a solely UK perspective, does just fine in the urbanity steaks, being similar to liverpool and newcastle, despite being a smaller city. And in terms of streetscapes (not urbanity), its no better or worse than other english cities, including manchester, and birmingham.

Also, this thread is about streetscapes, not urbanity. I appreciate you think they are part of the same thing, but many argue for example that while Birmingham is visually quite urban, it doesnt have so brilliant streetscapes.

From a non skyscraper-urbanity geek's point of view, many, perhaps more, prefer the streetscapes of york, chester, bath, and edinburgh, to grimey grity large urban northern cities.

the medievalians (?) got it right. a clearly defined town and country. dense town. sparse country. this is why historic towns, and foreign ones, can feel bigger. our large cities are all ex-industrial and as such, they are shamefully un-urban on the world stage.

some of our cities, however, do have elements that achieve what we could call 'the big city feel' - but these are few and far between.

(i am talking barr london btw)

i love aubergines :yes:

Whoops wrong place

the medievalians (?) got it right. a clearly defined town and country. dense town. sparse country. this is why historic towns, and foreign ones, can feel bigger. our large cities are all ex-industrial and as such, they are shamefully un-urban on the world stage.

some of our cities, however, do have elements that achieve what we could call 'the big city feel' - but these are few and far between.

(i am talking barr london btw)

Liverpool was commercial, not industrial

Industrialisation of Liverpool led to deurbanising, depopulation and the creation of suburban sprawl. Pre WWII Liverpool had all the hallmarks of a great city rather than a glorified town centre surrounded by suburbia.

Glasgow, like Scottish urban areas in general managed to retain larger swathes of city fabric especially in the West End and that's why it has the 'streetscape' vibe.

Yeah, the Commercial Revolution...big in the 1800's...not like that little thing called the Industrial Revolution.....

Aye but Liverpool serviced and traded off the Industrial Revolution. Empire building and trading....

Liverpool was commercial, not industrial

why not both? (rhetoric)_

Liverpool was the port. it failed to develop the industrial processes that places like Birmingham developed. Probably because it didn't need too. There is a good chance that the lack of historic industrial development led to the severe problems Liverpool had until recently with the decline of its port etc.