Quite correct, I actually meant the exact opposite. Cardiff actually feels a lot smaller than statistics say it is in comparison to other cities in the country. I think it's simply that the density is nowhere near as high as a number of other places.

Really? Well, impressions are impressions. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I would generally say that Cardiff feels a lot bigger than it actually is (a total population of 320,000, without an extended contiguous metropolitan area). And I would dispute that Cardiff's smallness is particularly apparent in my photographs, which were intended to show a fairly busy (for a chilly February morning!) waterfront district. But apparently not...

I think Cardiff has a bit of the same thing as Leeds (and Sheffield). The retail area feels like a small town. It's quite lowrise. But when you get more into the office areas it feels a lot bigger.

Well i dont think a picture of a large square or of the waterside would really give an impression of density!
I agree though that cardiff doesnt seem that dense compared to some other cities, but then it is a good thing IMO as the city is laid out better with everything you could want from a city not far from the center (all walkable within a few minutes). The densest street in Cardiff is probably between st Marys street and Queen street and these two are very typical of other British cities that i have seen (if slightly better than most due to the number of preserved buildings). The old part of the bay is quite dense, but rarely visited by outsiders (which will change with the redevelopment of the coal exchange) and is also quite a small island due to the fact that the Brecon and Glamorgan canal ran through it. Also large buildings like the castle, the CIA and the stadium have forced the city center into a slightly unconventional shape (ie not radial), along with the linear nature of businesses and offices along cathedral rd (which no visitor really goes near, which is a shame)and also Newport rd (which lots of poster says looks like an American CBD).

I think St Davids 2 will definately increase the sense of density, along with the completion of Callaghan square and Havannah quay. To be honest though i wouldnt like Cardiff to become too dense, as living in a dense urban sprawl is not something most people aspire to, instead preffering pleasant public space that is open with good architecture and being safe from traffic and pollution.

Just counter the claim that Cardiffs shoppping areas are town like, most buildings along queen street and st Marys street are 4 stories or more (with only a few buildings going down to two stories at intersections along queen street or have double height floors). This shopping part of st marys street isnt town like:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/Ged-15-09-07-004.jpg

or queen street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2225881341_85761f6256_o.jpg

some Queen street

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/1439542130_8360815ba1_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/293215267_a81b18b2a0_o-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/312089991_733ed7d7e5_b.jpg

Edit. 'Twas far too angry earlier on

Yes! You were. Ironically there has been an equal if not more number of pics that are distinctly *not* streetscapes posted in this thread, but were of glasgow.. and seemed like non-descript tat. Such as pictures of council blocks, motorways, and hills, that I was going to quote to make a point. But I wont now seeing as you have deleated your post.

:)

:lol: that post absolutely reeks of jealousy and desperation :lol:

A new low!

errm. if you say so. Is that your new come-back?

(1) Someone attacks Leeds and moans that the pics of Leeds are not actually streetscapes..they are all shit.

(2) I point out that there are an equal number of pics of Glasgow, that are not actually streetscapes either, such as pics of motorways (some of which are tat too).

(3) Therefore I'm "Jelouse and desperate" :)

Do grow up please. :)

Motorways are streetscapes, ya numpty :)

motorways are streetscapes in as much as buildings are.

What about mountains, and pictures of the sky.. and pictures with no streets in.. are they streetscapes? you twat :)

are these streetscapes?..

Behold: Glaswegia! :O

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/we2.jpg

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/406188089_4e2aa4e080.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/1805438842_a1e37533c3.jpg?v=0

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/198191944_f47c3a84e0.jpg?v=1157875854

if you are going to call leeds phtos SHIT because they are not streetscapes, then please do the same for these ;)

poop.sa

Say what you like wiggles - the thread speaks for itself :cheers:

Id say you were embarrassing yourself but you have no shame ...what a dick head :lol:

inner ring road in leeds that cuts thru the fringe of the city centre

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2250711469_18de2cca6a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2064/2250615249_2530b20ea2_b.jpg

parts of the notoriously ugly whitehall riverside, from the train station

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2033/2266257379_4dcfbb6584_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2202743678_c078abc431_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2184/2240918259_0564d89a26_o.jpg

etc etc

Crusty_bint - but i am not the one moaning about it. i dont have a problem with whatever people post on here. be they streets, or roads, as long as they are something from said city. It is your Glaswigian friend "the david boy" who decided to throw a tantrum and attack leeds by calling it shit, because one of the pictures posted was of a building.. with no street on it. If he is going to moan about this, then he should equally moan about all the shity non-streetscape pics of glasgow.

Why is this so problematic for you?

And now to dropmyself to your pathetic level, i will childishly name call too... you stupid fucking thick dickhead. Thankyou for spoiling YET ANOTHER THREAD. dickhead cunt wanker (see we can hurl pathetic personal abuse).

Ur glasweigian friend made a mistake. get over it, and move on.

thankyou :)

:lol: no shame nor decorum ...you can hardly string a sentence together either :lol:

Ur glasweigian friend made a mistake. get over it, and move on. I refuse to let you spoil this thread for the second time :llama:

:lol: someone throw him a life line ...he's drowning here!

:lol: someone throw him a life line ...he's drowning here!

:llama:

oooh... like... ouch :rofl:

here, amuse yourself with this (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=d67a3d745747575f04db91305130bf80) while I have something to eat ;)

OMFGROLFPMSL!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Now that was funny! Classic, Crusty. Go on wiggley, admit it, that was funny.

here, amuse yourself with this (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=d67a3d745747575f04db91305130bf80) while I have something to eat ;)
That is probably the funniest thing I've seen this month. Bloody brilliant, Crusty :rofl:


Wiggley, your method of operation on this forum is simply staggering! You have no idea how to argue at all - reading your posts... well, it's a trial to put it mildly.


What's all this "your Glaswegian friend made a mistake" chat all about? In fact, where is your chat at in general, wiggley? I presume it's hiding somewhere around those finely toned biceps of yours, clambering for a chance to break free. Glad to see you haven't set it free just yet, matey - I'd be worried that you'd start talking sense or summit!

So yeah, I may as well correct you, seeing that I'm here. I didn't make a mistake when asserting that Leeds looked shit. I was telling absolute truth, as most of the pictures you spew up (and we've seen 'em all 57356 times before, on THIS thread) are average and seldom do your "city" any favours when they get compared to the heavyweight cities in this poll. By that of course, I mean every other city on the poll apart from Leeds.

So I didn't make a "mistake": I just felt bad for being mean, as I'm normally quite a nice person. But, I'm sorely tempted to go back and re edit my post now. Thus forth, Crusty doesn't need to "get over it". In between defeating you both intellectually and comedically in every exchange the two of you have, the last thing he needs to do right now is to "get over" something that is both utterly meaningless and doesn't really exist.

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Motorways are part of the streetscape: If you use them as part of city life, then they are part of the streetscape. So when you're in the middle of nowhere driving up the M6 or whatever, this is not really part of a streetscape. But when you're driving along one of the busiest stretches of motorway in Europe, merely hopping from one part of a major metropolitan city to another, and often find that the motorway is flanked by streets, roads and pedestrian pathways that influences the look, operation and feel of the city, then the motorway is indeed part of the streetscape.

I suppose you've just never experienced anything like that in your town. One day, wiggley, one day.


Anyway, I'm off to watch that clip again, bloody hilarious it was, too. And tut tut with using the C word. Not really appropriate here is it, wiggles?




"the david boy" 1 - 0 Wiggleyleads

Stick a cork in it wiggledick - the Glasgow boys have you by the Gorbals.

I didn't make a mistake when asserting that Leeds looked shit. I was telling absolute truth, as most of the pictures you spew up are average and seldom do your "city" any favours when they get compared to the heavyweight cities in this poll. By that of course, I mean every other city on the poll apart from Leeds.

given that most of my pics are spew, can you post some of these really shit pictures that I have posted? Remember they have to pictures that really stand out as being really shit - and must be incomparable to any other pictures posted of other cities in this thread... because i bet whatever photos you post, i'll find you similar uninspiring fotos of glasgow that have been posted in this thread or any other city.

brring brrring... brrring brrrrring... (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=c2f9592cc6a0d8bf435a1fb22b173fc5)

brring brrring... brrring brrrrring... (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=c2f9592cc6a0d8bf435a1fb22b173fc5)

the first one was funnier, sorry :nuts:

owned, biatch ;)

Some Brum various - cheers Ultraviolet!!

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Wiggley, your method of operation on this forum is simply staggering! You have no idea how to argue at all

Really?

(1) you attack a set of pictures of Leeds by saying they are not streetscapes, and the whole city is therefore shit. (trollish? childish? pathetic?)

(2)Refraining from making similar sweeping comments about glasgow, I then point out to you that there are an equal number of pictures of glasgow that are not "streetscapes" per se either, that are equally 'droll'. I give examples, examples that incidently really do look shit. This shows a complete flaw in your whole *rant*

(3)This angers you and other glasgow stooges, who then jump in and join you in continuing the childish pathetic comments and baiting, - which ironically only reinforces the fact that I had infact elegantly argued a point.

Motorways are part of the streetscape: If you use them as part of city life, then they are part of the streetscape. So when you're in the middle of nowhere driving up the M6 or whatever, this is not really part of a streetscape. But when you're driving along one of the busiest stretches of motorway in Europe, merely hopping from one part of a major metropolitan city to another, and often find that the motorway is flanked by streets, roads and pedestrian pathways that influences the look, operation and feel of the city, then the motorway is indeed part of the streetscape. I suppose you've just never experienced anything like that in your town. One day, wiggley, one day.

Lets be honest here, the motorway pic of glasgow that was specifically posted in this forum is just a horrendous drab and grim non descript motorway, with none of the "streets, roads, and pedestrian pathways" making it a streetscape as you insist.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/1805438842_a1e37533c3.jpg?v=0

Whereas, the motorway pic I posted, ironically *does* have the streetscape elements you describe

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/motorway.jpg

and even if we "pretend" that the non-descript motorway pic of glasgow that was posted *is* a streetscape, there are still scores of pictures of glasgow in this thread that do not fit the criteria of a "streetscape" as you insisted photos of leeds should in your initial trollish rant.

In summary, if every single photo of glasgow on this thread were perefect examples of perfect streetscapes, then admittedly, you would have a point in attacking Leeds photos and making sweeping trollish comments about the whole city, and all its photos. *But* the second just *one* photo of glasgow posted on here is shit and doesnt fit the criteria of what you *insist* should be a streetscape, then your trollish comments carry no weight and just look stupid.

wiggleyleeds 2 - 0 "the david boy" and stooges

btw - i've still not attacked you personally (as you have done to me), and i've still not attacked glasgow with sweeping statements (as you have done about leeds). I'll ignore all future posts about this from the usual select few trolls such as crusty_bint including,yourself, who are happy to keep on baiting, to see another thread spoiled, and will no doubt continue with sweeping rants about leeds, and personal attacks - only further compounding that I argued a large flaw in your initial trollish rant.

Some Brum various - cheers Ultraviolet!!

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this is one of my fave buildings in brum. I think glass clad buildings such as this, beetham mancs, as well as the glass tower on liverpool's skyline really look great.

:lol: check you throwing another queenie hissy fit :lol:

what is it you usually say to boards... something about essays and rattled... ;) :lol:

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sooooooooo true

Birmingham Photo's - Very nice, looks very American.


Wiggley - I think you're absolutely right and it's what I was thinking as well. I wouldn't say the pictures were shit, not applicable seems more appropriate, they'll only use that and your piss take of aggressive swearing as more ammo. Ganging up in groups of three's or two's (Boards didn't really have that much to do with this) and declaring they're right while casually insulting you, as funny as the original video was, is incredibly childish.


We seriously need to stop having these Glasgow vs. Leeds posturing's, like Helium says it's getting old.

Yeah, and Wiggles persistent denigration of Glasgow, the slandering of its populace and urban fabric, the banding of loaded statements inferring we're all ill-educated, malnourished, impoverished, disease ridden criminals is perfectly legitimate.

Edit in response to Dan's edit: I think you'll find it is Leeds vs Glasgow. I have not set out to create rivalry, a fact I have stated several times in this thread and many more times in others. It has been the Leeds contingent who instigated and perpetuated this farce.

Yeah, and Wiggles persistent denigration of Glasgow, the slandering of its populace and urban fabric, the banding of loaded statements inferring we're all ill-educated, malnourished, impoverished, disease ridden criminals is perfectly legitimate.


I've never said it was, in fact I've criticized that in the past. However in this instance he's right.

So the fact TheBoyDavid edited his post and removed the content long before Wiggles replied has no bearing on the matter? Would that not indicate that he perhaps regretted whatever his comment was, a comment said in the heat of the moment in response to Wiggles' vitriol? Yes? Non?

Wiggles acts like an impetuous child and so I, like the rest of us, have treated him as such.

Im sorry but if you look at the few instances where I have attacked Glasgow in the manner you descibe it will *always* be preceeded by the usual suspects slagging of Leeds out of the blue for no reason whatsoever. I think they do it because Leeds is an easy target as Leeds Forummers seldom use the city talk threads, so its easy to attack and bait leeds, await a response, bait more, then throw more insults and in the same breath complain that we are trolls. (yes, the irony!)

And as for "the david boy" editing his trollish comments. It was still on for a long time, and it was read. And either way - my response was not nasty or provocative.. it just pointed out a flaw in his initial comments.

Wiggley, once again your argument lacks cogency. Until I came across your denigratory comments I rarely posted in City Talk but I ave felt compelled to debunk your venomous posts and sweeping, uninformed derisory statements. The fact you still felt compelled to write such a lengthy retort to the post TheBoyDavid deleted only reinforces the point that you act like a churlish, impetuous child.

I have no problem with the odd slagging off and bit of banter, as I'm sure you all have noticed, however, you consistently take things to extremes. If you stop it then I will have nothing to reply to, and would be happy not to have anything to reply to - it's a very simple concept.

Wiggley, once again your argument lacks cogency. Until I came across your denigratory comments I rarely posted in City Talk but I ave felt compelled to debunk your venomous posts and sweeping, uninformed derisory statements. The fact you still felt compelled to write such a lengthy retort to the post TheBoyDavid deleted only reinforces the point that you act like a churlish, impetuous child.

I have no problem with the odd slagging off and bit of banter, as I'm sure you all have noticed, however, you consistently take things to extremes. If you stop it then I will have nothing to reply to, and would be happy not to have anything to reply to - it's a very simple concept.


Lengthy? What this?:


Yes! You were. Ironically there has been an equal if not more number of pics that are distinctly *not* streetscapes posted in this thread, but were of glasgow.. and seemed like non-descript tat. Such as pictures of council blocks, motorways, and hills, that I was going to quote to make a point. But I wont now seeing as you have deleated your post.

Wiggley, once again your argument lacks cogency. Until I came across your denigratory comments I rarely posted in City Talk but I ave felt compelled to debunk your venomous posts and sweeping, uninformed derisory statements.

really? Its funny that. The last time you launched into a tirading attack on me and leeds, it was shown I hadnt instigated anything. It was shown you misread a quote. Yet, despite egg on your face, you contnued provoking (probably out of anger of being proved wrong) and continued spoiling the thread mindlessly, only for your own amusement.

The fact you still felt compelled to write such a lengthy retort to the post TheBoyDavid deleted only reinforces the point that you act like a churlish, impetuous child.

you mean this "Lengthy Retort"

Edit. 'Twas far too angry earlier on

Yes you were. Ironically there has been an equal if not more number of pics that are distinctly *not* streetscapes posted in this thread, but were of glasgow.. and seemed like non-descript tat. Such as pictures of council blocks, motorways, and hills, that I was going to quote to make a point. But I wont now seeing as you have deleated your post. :)

Its hardly a retort. It doesnt attack glasgow with sweeping statements, and it doesnt attack him personally either. It merely points out that there are equally photos of glasgow that do not fit his criteria of a streetscape too.

I was going to post a few examples, but seeing as he removed his comments (despite everyone reading it), i saw no need to.

I have no problem with the odd slagging off and bit of banter, as I'm sure you all have noticed

well I *do* have a problem with it. There really is no need. I wouldnt dream of just attacking a city or person on here just for the "fun of it". its not fun..its mindless trolling and i just cant understand it. Which is why it admitedly does anger me when ppl like u start attacking others or cities for no reason other than ur own fun then in the same breath callin them trolls. it spoils threads.

there are lots of shitty pictures on these threads. But i never comment on them. I just comment on the pictures that really captivate me and stand out. This is because its all subjective, and there really is no need to call other people's pics "shit" and make sweeping statements about a whole city based on some of their posts. Its just plain nasty.

Yes Dan, just gloss over the rest of my posts and pick up on that singular point. I think you must be a child or adolescent at best and so I'll no longer respond to you as I doubt it would even be worth the syntax.

Wiggles, if you *do* have a problem with it why persist in it?

Helium's right, this is old. However this is the first time I've personally had a go at Leeds, and so to instantly accuse me of trolling is simply wrong. In fact, while you were taking heat in this thread a couple of months ago, I jumped in and said that the picture you had posted of the corn exchange was a cracker. What irked me was that you proceeded then to post it twice more.

I did not post the picture of the Glasgow motorway you highlighted; if you care to look back you will find I have posted ONLY relevant pictures of Glasgow's streetscape. Incidentally, the picture you posted of the Leeds motorway above is an impressive one.


You assert that I attacked you first. This was indeed the case, but then I took it back before you had even replied. Showing a great lack of tact, you then proceeded to moan about it until you supplied Crusty with enough bait to make an extremely amusing post. But what must be noticed is that you had began to make childish comments about Crusty's "Glaswegian friend", followed of course by purposely getting my username completely wrong. If this doesn't open you up for some more personal treatment, then I don't know what does. Further to this, I didn't actually make any personal insults to you, only highlighting the rank chat you were producing regarding me, and that with an avatar like that, you are simply asking for trouble.



Quite frankly, I don't have the time, energy or desire to search through 100 pages to find all the shiters that have been posted of Leeds. I don't intend to even begin looking. If someone else wants to give it a go, fair enough, but as for me, I'm out of here.

I was going to send this via pm before you made you last post Wiggley, but I see no reason not to post it here

despite my comments on the forum, i dont dislike you, i even find you funny at times but i cant sit back and let your comments about Glasgow go unchallenged - something im sure you can empathise with?

i would like to see an end to this, i have no idea how it started, when it started and who started it and at this stage it really doesnt matter.

so heres the crux: leave Glasgow alone and il be more than happy to leave you to your own devices.

this could go on forever, and is probably playing into exactly what you want. so i'm bailing out.

Yes Dan, just gloss over the rest of my posts and pick up on that singular point. I think you must be a child or adolescent at best and so I'll no longer respond to you as I doubt it would even be worth the syntax.

Wiggles, if you *do* have a problem with it why persist in it?


I'm 20. What a ridiculous and insulting comment.

I really like those Birmingham shots. I wouldn't say it looked american though. Those parts of the city remind me more of places like La Defense, and some of the plazas and boulevards you get in the spanish cities.

Indeed, the Birmingham pictures are great. Some really nice old style- modern buildings (but not in a tacky way).

A lone shot of Sheffield by Skyfitboy:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Steelcityrise/IMG_6900.jpg

Some good photos on here of streetscapes, but not going to say which as may fuel the city bashing that seem invade every thread with photos comparing cities. :ohno:

When are people going to accept some one elses Opinion, and leave it at that, THEIR opinion. Not come back telling them there wrong because yours if different.
If its a Discussion thread then fine as its there to DISCUSS the issue, Not SLAG each other off.

:dunno: it gets repetitively boring.

indeed Leeds and Glasgow suck just as equally if not more than each other :yes:

indeed Leeds and Glasgow suck just as equally if not more than each other :yes:

ha ha!

Some good photos on here of streetscapes, but not going to say which as may fuel the city bashing that seem invade every thread with photos comparing cities. :ohno:

When are people going to accept some one elses Opinion, and leave it at that, THEIR opinion. Not come back telling them there wrong because yours if different.
If its a Discussion thread then fine as its there to DISCUSS the issue, Not SLAG each other off.

:dunno: it gets repetitively boring.
Aye aye, we all made up, no need to bring that chat round again!

We'll start on Sheffield next, if you're not careful :)

We'll start on Sheffield next, if you're not careful :)

There's no point. Sheffield p*sses on everywhere in the world at everything ever possible. :yes:

well i demand pics, lest i regurgitate my own.

hurry up summer...

That church (st marys is it?) is really nice but a bit of an island and disconnected. I think Bristol should make more of its riverfront (rather than the one dock from that psudo square).

That church (st marys is it?) is really nice but a bit of an island and disconnected. I think Bristol should make more of its riverfront (rather than the one dock from that psudo square).

The harbourside is still in the process of being intergrated back into the city, (its probably taken this long as the city itself has been trying to intergrate back into itself as it were :shifty: :crazy2:) still its come a long way when the council were trying to drain and concrete over the place and turn it into a motorway or dual carriageway! :lol: :eek:

Well i think there has been a lucky escape there then, especially seeing as some parts of the waterway are quite unique and charming (ie the warehouses that front onto it). I think defining some role for the area would be good, either restaurants, bars (or a mix of both) entertainment, cultural (or more of as there is an art museum (?).

Well i think there has been a lucky escape there then, especially seeing as some parts of the waterway are quite unique and charming (ie the warehouses that front onto it). I think defining some role for the area would be good, either restaurants, bars (or a mix of both) entertainment, cultural (or more of as there is an art museum (?).

it already is though, :yes: (but nowhere as much as it should be,) although im noit sure it'd be as apparent to a visitor though :dunno:

I think that one area coming off the square is, and is quite succesfully done IMO but then it just finnishes when it gets to the end of the dock.

yerp, although thankfully there's quite alot outside that area though :yes: such as along welsh back and alot of the boats are being turned into bars-restaurants and the like.

the problem is that there's quite a wide area in which to open your business and the harbourside is just one of many.

hurry up summer...
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Harbourside/DSC_0573a-1.jpg

yes!

i would have thought you'd hate the pic Tony, what with the narrowboats being there :shifty:

i got to play with photoshop today :happy: (i suck at it :cry: :bowtie:)



along Brandon hill

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Harbourside/DSC_0573a-1.jpg The multi coloured Georgian Terrace is a real eye opener for me. I didn't think Caribbean type pastels would lend themselves favourably to the English situation. I was, thankfully, wrong. It's been awhile since I visited Bristol but after viewing this picture I will certainly renew my acquaintance with that city when I am in the area (Sharpness) in August. Thanks for posting it.

i would have thought you'd hate the pic Tony, what with the narrowboats being there :shifty:

i got to play with photoshop today :happy: (i suck at it :cry: :bowtie:)



along Brandon hill
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/28th/DSC_0095.jpg

:lol: I blotted those out and just concentrated on the little speed cruisers!

another excellent pic here, by the way!

This thread is getting to long, 'hint hint'

This thread is getting to long, 'hint hint'


What is the limit on thread size? What happens if you just keep posting?

Well the Hull thread is just short of 6000 posts. Mods 'hint hint'

This thread is getting to long, 'hint hint'

It still has 1000 to go before it matches Best Present Skyline so i don't think we need a new one yet.

oh ok

In all fairness it is a little too big,
(and other sections of the site have a limit),

Also half this thread is filled with off topic bickering and things about TGWAA population dkfdskfjskfsf :bash:

(if it was bickering about which had a better streetscene cough*glasgow*cough then maybe),

and only about 1/16th (:|) of this thread is filled with those nice pictures of street scenes, i even made an alternate thread at one point because this very thread became overridden with retarded cyber arguments.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2166/2293932781_5cf3eba02b.jpg

Leeds has some lovely green spaces! ;)

Leeds Cybercafe:-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0568.jpg

Really.

:lol:

i'm actually posting this message from there now!

some of leeds from a from a diferent perspective

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/2301160681_7140a4b262_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2301173989_8de92d99b7_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2301929854_48e1be5d50_b.jpg

That first shot reminds me of Belfast for some reason :?

Not the best shots of Leeds Wiggley but good nonetheless.

yeh, not particularly pretty shots at all. the last photo shows the density well though.

It does indeed but it's not a pretty shot if you know what I mean.
I know there is a running joke about Brum and 60s architecture but that shot would fall under same joke.

I think it's also that thing like the Brum shots that were posted some time back on skyline thread; the weather makes it look worse than a nice sunny blue sky day would.

Here are some of my pics of Liverpool taken 10 days ago
http://i29.tinypic.com/2lnzpjp.jpg


From the anglican cathedral


towards the CBD...
http://i26.tinypic.com/vmppn9.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/29eiqhd.jpg


...and the Paradise Street development
http://i25.tinypic.com/4rz0j5.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/snjewo.jpg


Towards Lime Street
http://i31.tinypic.com/11t7h4l.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/2ugdyec.jpg


and ECHO
http://i30.tinypic.com/2gt0x1l.jpg


towards the catholic cathedral
http://i32.tinypic.com/ml1pua.jpg


And the docks to the north of the city
http://i25.tinypic.com/2wbs5lg.jpg

thanks Manuel, some of those are really fantastic. Thoses street views you put up wiggly are rather cool as well.

brilliant shots manuel :applause:

I actually really liked those leeds shots! Liverpool ones were great (still think Liverpool city center needs more greenery).

Something i noticed in the Liverpool pictures that you see in plenty of other cities - bombed churches with no roofs. Now i now they stand as memorials to those times but maybe more could be made of them as museums charting the blitz on individual cities, and moreover the role of those cities during the war (along with testement from real people). I know plymouth, portsmouth and now Liverpool have these bombed churches, and despite Manchester having the IWMN, i didnt see a section on the bombings.

Oh seeing as this thread has been resurected, here are a couple of pics (hopefully more selected than others i posted)

Arty

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/517985636_042504a2b3_o.jpg

Atmospheric

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2141941248_fa1e36600c_b.jpg

classical

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2289860968_a7f3097928_b.jpg

historic

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2291427096_21fca2af3a_b.jpg

rustic

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2291428378_1ff3606b1b_b.jpg

peacefull

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2269445001_cd647cced1_b.jpg

busy

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2302151067_8c81f2a646_o.jpg

and one for good luck, one of st Davids day

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2302150073_26558a2459_o.jpg

I actually really liked those leeds shots! Liverpool ones were great (still think Liverpool city center needs more greenery).

I agree although the soon to open Chavasse Park should make it a bit better, there would be no harm in planting a few more trees or roof top gardens.

Heres the bombed out chuch in Liverpool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Luke's_Church,_Liverpool

some bits of liverpool look like spitalfields with the georgian and eary victorian townhouses laid out in handsome streets. i also love the victorian workshops, factories and warehouses that are being renovated and how the new buildings are slotting into the existing urban fabric with sympathetic scale and/or materials.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/maddmaxx500/Sheffield/Sunnysheaf.jpg

Brilliant post by Manuel:

A few more!

CBD
http://i29.tinypic.com/25tzuy8.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/122z32v.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/suyq00.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2vlp4yd.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/dzxf1j.jpg

A New Yorky feel to the streetscape
http://i31.tinypic.com/2jg83kl.jpg
Some very interesting buildings
http://i29.tinypic.com/331dbmt.jpg
One of the most modern and beautiful building I've seen in the UK
http://i27.tinypic.com/28mpv9d.jpg

The magnificent Tobacco Docks
http://i26.tinypic.com/2hn52iv.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/j7b9fa.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/ap8fnk.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/jgqo00.jpg

Will I ever get used to the scale of the tobacco warehouse?

P.S: Liverpool is massively underrated on this thread. I'd put it 3rd after Glasgow and Manchester.

I have found that Liverpool has a very good streetscape, although most the buildings seemed to be caked in grime. A run down feel plagued the historic parts of the city last time I visisted (November 2007). I got the impression that the old buildings were being left and ignored for the new developments. The new developments are impressive and I like them, but the historic fabric should also be valued.

I have found that Liverpool has a very good streetscape, although most the buildings seemed to be caked in grime. A run down feel plagued the historic parts of the city last time I visisted (November 2007). I got the impression that the old buildings were being left and ignored for the new developments. The new developments are impressive and I like them, but the historic fabric should also be valued.

They are being restored one by one, but you have to remember that Liverpool has been run down for years and has only just turned the corner, but there are just so many that its going to take years. I can't wait to see the tobacco warehouse when its done up though, that has the potential to be another albert dock

I got the exact same feeling Leeds No 1, the modern parts are very impressive, and st georges hall area was great, but the general streetscape was dirty and in places run down - BUT the buildings were of high quality mostly.

http://www.one-uk.co.uk/images/property/1/68/40373_CAL070268_IMG_06.jpg

http://www.one-uk.co.uk/images/property/1/68/40373_CAL070268_IMG_00.jpg

Nice pics, although I don't really like the look of that mustardy-coloured building. Doesn't fit in that well there.

nice to see the big spurt of liverpool pics :happy:

the Eggy Ferry

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2334879125_a675f0a2be_b.jpg

is it any good? :poke:

is it any good? :poke:

its alright if you're moochin up the prom on a hot summer day, used to be able to sit out the front with your beer and enjoy the view :cheers:

http://www.southlakes-uk.co.uk/photo3/devBIapr2006.jpg
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photos/27/91/279187_4579ad86.jpg
Guess where these streets are

Barrow?

Correct, I cluelessly stumbled across it looking for something else.

Surprized me, I'm going to have to go there now.

I'd never seen them myself until a few months ago when I saw a piece on the TV saying that the tenents are being evicted, due to changes in housing benefit. The blocks look great.

a few i took today (sorry for the quality :shifty:)

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/038.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/036.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/033.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/031.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/051.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/052.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/084.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/001.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/008.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/015.jpg

there's still about 60-70 more :shifty:

Good stuff Helium :okay:

that top pic is certainly a top pic!

From Ultraviolet in the Brum sub-forum

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1010542.jpg

is that great big hulk of building on the left side a post war building being revamp or a completely new build? if its the latter then :ohno: :puke: although it gets brownie points for being huge.

that car park on the same side is rather interesting.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Brindley-House-1.jpg

Does that answer your question? :nuts:

I dont think what they are doing is an especially good improvement, at least on the outside. I suppose they have kept the charachter of it which i suppose when so many buildings from this period are being demolished is good.

Does that answer your question? :nuts:


well after seeing some of the new builds around the country :bash: :tongue:



(:hug: :lovethem:)


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http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/081.jpg

(that's not my hand :bowtie:)

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/118.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/168.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/114.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/153.jpg


found out how to do select colouring :happy: and fopp has opened a branch here (even if its not quite the same...) i've combined the two to celebrate
:happy:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/171.jpg

I'm glad the name Fopp has survived in some places even if HMV now owns it. We were due to get one in Birmingham which would have added a bit of interest to Corporation Street but that was before the Musiczone and Fopp implosion.

i have to admit going in it didnt quite feel the same,

bachy, helium - good pics there :cheers: i could almost drink another pint in honour of those high quality snaps

well why dont you?

go on have another :cheers:

That's exactly how I'd imagine you'd look Helium!

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/april1sr/118.jpg

Only slight younger, thinner, and without the fag.

the man or the building? :dunno: ;)

The carvings above the door on the first building...

A closer look:
http://www.tyberkatz.com/eb/angpug1.jpg

:lovethem:

i like this pic.. it feels very iggledy wiggledy and reminds me of newcastle's windy streets

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/2384189157_144d267bfb_b.jpg

the right half of that pic looks like newcastle quayside a bit. the proportions of the curve are similar, there is a decent sized art deco-ish building in the same place as in newcastle and then a post-war tower in the same place too.

this one on flickr looks a bit chaotic, by need a haircut (http://www.flickr.com/photos/valeofglamorgan/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2383054725_08d90945d1_o.jpg

From Ultraviolet in the Brum sub-forum

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1010542.jpg

That building doesn't half remind me of West Point in Leeds.

Subliving.

That building looked better than West Point before its referb!

In fact, West point looked better before it's referb.

in fact I've just noticed it looks not a million miles off..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2340996209_b754cf80d0_b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0806.jpg

murple durple

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/082.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/062.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/038.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/095.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/097.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/117.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/110.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/103.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/085.jpg





http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/5apr/098.jpg

That building looked better than West Point before its referb!

In fact, West point looked better before it's referb.

in fact I've just noticed it looks not a million miles off..



you are confused.

The building in your pics is west riding house. The building subliving was on about was westpoint a totally diferent building. a nasty horrific looking refirb that looks pretty similar to the brum photo that was posted

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/423464522_ccd7a7456f_b.jpg

That building looked better than West Point before its referb!

In fact, West point looked better before it's referb.

in fact I've just noticed it looks not a million miles off..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2340996209_b754cf80d0_b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0806.jpg

I think he meant the actual West Point building, an old Royal Mail building converted into apartments a couple of years ago.

you are confused.

The building in your pics is west riding house. The building subliving was on about was westpoint a totally diferent building. a nasty horrific looking refirb that looks pretty similar to the brum photo that was posted

Yes, I know.
The point I was trying... ah, doesn't matter.

Baarf streetscape


some new ones taken today

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/018.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/047.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/028.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/021.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/034.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/032.jpg



http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/056.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/005.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/003.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/061.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/046.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/069.jpg



not exactly the beatles :tongue3:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/070.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/071.jpg


Where they sell the world famous sally lunns buns...


havent heard of them either :tongue3:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/072.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/073.jpg


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/075.jpg



http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/Bath/baTH5/074.jpg

Bath is amazing, loved living there and miss the excitment you feel in the streets.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/bay7.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/bay4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/haha1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2384273587_dc7fb842aa_b.jpg

bath looks well.. :drool: cardiff not bad either ;)


heres one of liverpool by j-in-lancs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22140299@N08/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2227/2390580492_0154741451_b.jpg

and one by fanatical apathist

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2377550629_10c384fe7a_b.jpg

a 1961 advertisment of Leeds. It could be birmingham 2008 j/k :P

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/215333093_6ad38a7ae2_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1141/653083266_762b8b059f_b.jpg

That old advert is cool. Looks like a big city.

It *is* a big city. ;)

Subliving.

Be interesting if you could get the view 47 years later and see how much (or little) it has changed!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/215333093_6ad38a7ae2_b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Nicholas_Varley/Leeds/370x245_citysq12.jpg


That's the change.

Subliving.

I love that last night shot of leeds with the fountains!
The Bath stuff, needs no words :)

Hull, Queens Gardens and maritime museum

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7943841@N08/464286328/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/464286328_feda391cbf.jpg?v=0

some shots of some wet Liverpool streets from flickr, by ijob (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijob/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2407199037_819f0b332d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2408030048_c673d85602_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/2407199389_a131977324_o.jpg

For me the pictures show that the architecture is great, but the strretscape at least in those pics is quite bad (for me) because it lacks any activity (is shops, restaurants etc and yes i know this isnt that kind of area) but also a lack of treets or plants, no real street furintiure or art. its a shame as adding to the stretscape would maybe get more people to look up and notice the great architecture around them. Also in conjuction with the sky it looks very grey and drab. Luckilly though all this can be changed easily if it is so wished. Oh and of course the scurge of all our cities..... ......street signs placed randomly and unatrractive traffic lights (dont ask me what an attractive one looks like though lol).

spot on cardiff!

Oh and of course the scurge of all our cities..... ......street signs placed randomly and unatrractive traffic lights. Traffic lights in the UK are placed on the 'stop' side of the intersection sidewalk and, unless you go to our system of overhead on the opposite side of the intersection, there is no way, that I can see, of re-locating them. As to your other complaint, the only "randomly" placed street signs I could see was in pic # 1 and they were where they should be.

I'm sure I remember overhead traffic lights from when I lived in Southampton?

I'm sure I remember overhead traffic lights from when I lived in Southampton? I'm sure you do and, as there are sidewalk mounted traffic lights here in North America but, they are, I'm sure, the exception to the rule.:)

Overhead lights are common in the UK; there's loads of places that have them, mainly on major roads/urban areas/motorway junctions.

Overhead lights are common in the UK; there's loads of places that have them, mainly on major roads/urban areas/motorway junctions. And we here, in North America, have a lot of sidewalk mounted lights but, your staement above not withstanding, have far more overhead, opposite side of the intersection, mounted lights. Inn fact I would say they are the most common type of mounts for North American traffic lights. And again, your statement not withstanding, I don't remember one overhead, opposite side, mounted traffic light in the UK. Now I'm not saying there are none, just that I don't remember any. But, if you are right, then the UK would seem to have changed, what was the unique situation, of the traffic light locations, but, I bet I will still have to search high and low to find any, next time I visit the UK.:)

Their calling my flight, so I will have to hurry off!!!!!!!!!

Sloyne, i didnt mean so much randomly in that they have just been plonked for no reason, but that they are quite unattractive (a pole with a square sign on it - hardly the height of design). They often have no relation to the architecture around them and i just feel that a better compromise for aesthetics and functionality could be designed.

Anyway here is a street with no unwelcome signs in Cardiff that has been renovated recently

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2409346257_18119235a9_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2410179370_335287c460_b.jpg

Anyway here is a street with no unwelcome signs in Cardiff that has been renovated recently And here is one, traffic signals and all, that is just full of signs.:)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2706/cimg1095ao2.jpg

id say that was a motorway with retail parks off it :) But at least there is consistency in design (excluding corporate signage).

id say that was a motorway with retail parks off it :) But at least there is consistency in design (excluding corporate signage). Not exactly, it's my towns East-West artery named Queen Street or Kings Highway #7 and that is the eastern half, looking east. The "motorway", Highway 410, which runs north-south and intersects with H/W 7, is about 100 yards further on.

PS: North American "motorways" are "Expressways" and do not have traffic signals.

Sloyne - I'm sorry to say that your town does not win best present streetscape. It looks like Trafford Park without the charm.

Sloyne - I'm sorry to say that your town does not win best present streetscape. It looks like Trafford Park without the charm. Yeah, that picture is shit but, there are some very charming areas. Brampton is a typical old Canadian town (now a city) with some very nice spots. I might take some pics when the trees get leaves again.;)

I'm always willing to be proved wrong.

I've just realised how big this thread is! :eek:

And no, this is not a street in the true (European) sense of the term!

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2706/cimg1095ao2.jpg

The best streets in Manchester are the ones in the Deansgate-Cross Street-Exchange Street-King Street area (including those streets).

I thought that was up by the Showcase cinema.

I'm always willing to be proved wrong. Here's a couple more shit streetscapes.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/486/cimg1089xw9.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9002/cimg1090ua6.jpg

Here's a couple more shit streetscapes.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/486/cimg1089xw9.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9002/cimg1090ua6.jpg

Wow, even Telford has better ones :shocked:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9002/cimg1090ua6.jpg

Blimey, that looks like a very British new (bland) housing estate.

Wow, even Telford has better ones :shocked:

Indeed! I'm being serious!

(To be honest, Telford has some pretty nice areas which are very green and then there's the old town centres like Dawley which have proper streets too.)

Here's King Street in Manchester -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/King_Street_4.jpg/800px-King_Street_4.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/King_Street_3.jpg/800px-King_Street_3.jpg

First one is looking west from the middle (where it crosses Cross Street) and the second is looking east towards the centre of the city centre.

Wow, even Telford has better ones :shocked: I believe you but, you must remember that Telford's roads and streets were built to serve a different purpose than ours. Our streets, roads and highways were built to move motorised vehicles and not pedestrians. Even our old "downtowns" have been converted for greater vehicular access to the detriment of the pedestrian.

New Cathedral Street -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/New_Cathedral_St.jpg/800px-New_Cathedral_St.jpg

Sackville Street -

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/SackvilleSt.jpg

(on the southern edge of the city centre)

I believe you but, you must remember that Telford's roads and streets were built to serve a different purpose than ours. Our streets, roads and highways were built to move motorised vehicles and not pedestrians. Even our old "downtowns" have been converted for greater vehicular access to the detriment of the pedestrian.

Telford is a new town, built mainly since the 1960s... :|

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9002/cimg1090ua6.jpg

Blimey, that looks like a very British new (bland) housing estate. And it is, but each one of those houses is not less than 2000 sq.ft. of living space. Nowhere is immune to urban spread and greenbelt is being eaten up at an alarming rate. But that particular development did not take any arable land but covered a derelict gravel pit. It took almost 18 years to refill it.

The picture is of a development in Brampton, ON., Canada which grew, in less than four decades, from a population of 19,000 to over 400,000 today, and still growing.:ohno:

Oops! double again.

Telford is a new town, built mainly since the 1960s... :| Not living there (in the UK), I wouldn't know nor, by any reasonable person, expected to. By the way, just were is Telford, I honestly haven't a clue?

Its in that area between Birmingham and Wales. In the ceremonial county of Shropshire about 80m south of Liverpool. One of the fastest growing towns in the UK, bigger in area than Southampton, Wolverhampton and various other real places. Home to the Ironbridge Gorge world heritage site and contains the birthplace of the Industrial revolution. Here's a map.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=52.542955,-2.351074&spn=2.245091,6.921387&z=7

Oh and here it is in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford

Its in that area between Birmingham and Wales. In the ceremonial county of Shropshire about 80m south of Liverpool. One of the fastest growing towns in the UK, bigger in area than Southampton, Wolverhampton and various other real places. Home to the Ironbridge Gorge world heritage site and contains the birthplace of the Industrial revolution. Here's a map.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=52.542955,-2.351074&spn=2.245091,6.921387&z=7

Oh and here it is in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford Thank's. :)

City Centre
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2103/2220569667_a749774fa9_o.jpg

Merchant City
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/309508806_9d4b616cc2_o.jpg

Financial District
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/432153721_1114b802c7_b.jpg

Pacific Quay
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1458295038_c4c55b0be2_b.jpg

Charing Cross
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/520117371_35525a188b_b.jpg

West End
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/382065733_119d5a26a2_o.jpg

Southside
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2131504259_cd8b6c5968_o.jpg

City Centre. Yes indeed, Glasgow plays second fiddle to no place, it's a magnificent city.

brilliant!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2131504259_cd8b6c5968_o.jpg

Thats quite a deceptive shot. The gates of the park to the two large buildings in the distance is around 4km.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/vic4.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/vic3.jpg

All cracking shots there of Glasgow and the one of the southside, what a stunner! I'm taking it those are gates into Queens park? :)

Yip. Quality locale.

Overhead lights are common in the UK; there's loads of places that have them, mainly on major roads/urban areas/motorway junctions. Below is another example of how we hang traffic signals here in North America. And as you can see, they are on the opposite side of the intersection than their counterparts in the UK.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8814/cimg1098dh7.jpg

Whilst Portsmouths streetscape generally sucks, there are some really nice bits to it. Particularly the streetscape along southsea common (excuse the birds eye view)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/31428013_2db4f3641b_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/168755923_4fc2ca6361_b.jpg

http://www.portsmouth-guide.co.uk/local/pics/bluerf.jpg

http://pointawayfromface.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/extreme.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1082/1408015445_f8b108d888.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1269/807150577_69648e4167.jpg?v=0

http://www.portsmouth-apartments.co.uk/assets/images/aerial.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1155/1329401146_a885f9b585.jpg?v=0

ALL of these pictures are taken of the same park. Probably one of the best Urban parks in the UK. Has a large open green space for events, large (enclosed, pay to enter) skatepark, Castle, Lighthouse, Huge War Memorial, Swimming Centre with Funpools, Rock Gardens, Bowls Greens, Mini Golf, Permenant Fun Fair with Rollercoaster, Pier, 4 Games Arcades, Boating Lake, Model Village, D Day Museum and one of the UK's top rated Aquariums.
Also it has a BEACH!

The 'common' in portsmouth is a great park, id rank it highly due to it location and attractions in it, but as a park i think there are better. Also its main reason for being there is as a killing zone where invading troops would be masacered by gunfire from the buildings and heavy guns from the forts on portsdown hill.

Here are some nice pics of Swansea

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/106838571_8e9851dde0_o.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/530147409_5555aa8ed0_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/1418128616_1b7684ee76_b.jpg

(this is taken from a street)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/1394319096_d1652f94c5_o.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/199802254_56cf235e44_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/436598795_3e92014687_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/46152896_2b19e77ece_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/531865291_6b3abfe31b_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2398077296_4b71cdd47a_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2402080168_972010fdf9_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2408413810_f48f776373_o.jpg

i was in Swansea and the mumbles a few weeks ago, a very very nice setting (although Port talbot and a few areas were a contrast to say the least)

lovely pics cardiff, are these streets in the sky? :nuts:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/1418128616_1b7684ee76_b.jpg

you take a mean pic cardiff, excellent!

You've done Swansea a great service there Cardiff.

You've done Swansea a great service there Cardiff.

Now there's a phrase you don't hear every day...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/2436488523_9730b5fbd9_b.jpg

Proper streetscape.

Oxford Rd, Manchester

Europes busiest bus corridor.

Only because there was competition between companies that created complete congestion. There was a program about it, i found it hilarious that they were allowed to cause such disruption and the shoddy quality of some of the buses. I liked the fact that they quoted people that it was quicker to walk than catch one of the many buses! The part closest tot he center was what id call an urban streetscape, but i much preffered the road as you move away from the center (also i hate the fac that the library and st pauls square (is it) are not more grand and aligned at the end of the road better if you know what i mean?

Hurrah! I live about 2 min walk from that very spot - down Rosamund Street West in fact. Thanks, Choggers!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/530147409_5555aa8ed0_b.jpg

now that's what I call a proper streetscape, it could easily be a chic suburb high street of london. It has a lovely european feel about it. A fantastic streetscape there, am gonna have to visit cardiff some time :)

^^ I'm inclined to agree.

And Cardiff, Oxford Rd was the Busiest bus route before last year's 'bus wars' anyway.

Congested doesn't make it the busiest, as the frequency can suffer with more traffic obviously! :)

now that's what I call a proper streetscape, it could easily be a chic suburb high street of london. It has a lovely european feel about it. A fantastic streetscape there, am gonna have to visit cardiff some time :)

Would be great to have you visit Cardiff, but you won't see that. That's Swansea!

Great pic Chog. You really feel you've arrived somewhere when you come out of Oxford Road station into the middle of that lot.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/2436488523_9730b5fbd9_b.jpg

Proper streetscape.

Oxford Rd, Manchester

Europes busiest bus corridor.

And just imagine what it'll look like if the TIF bid goes through. High quality BRT ferrying people up and down a tree lined avenue with much improved public realm.

Then all it needs is the BBC site redevelopment and MMU to sort out some of their buildings and it'll be brilliant.

And just imagine what it'll look like if the TIF bid goes through. High quality BRT ferrying people up and down a tree lined avenue with much improved public realm.

Then all it needs is the BBC site redevelopment and MMU to sort out some of their buildings and it'll be brilliant.

:yes:

I have to say I do like Oxford Road in Manchester. I remember walking down it once one Summer some years ago and hadn't really gone to the city before. It has this whole 'corridor into a city centre' feel to it, and a correct one which has the adjustment from some of the University buildings to office buildings to the amazing looking civic buildings at its end. I remember thinking Manchester Library looked amazing in the background, and really wanted to go all the way in. Though my journey there was to buy a drumkit from Johnny Roadhouse Music.

Anyway, Oxford Road, decent example of a good city entrance corridor.

Check out this stunner from ArePeeJee:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2438253999_1eb61e4230_b.jpg
Large - http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2438253999_57699d2299_o.jpg

And a couple of the quays area:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2442805463_938755ed53.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2443630728_69db5ab71a.jpg

The square looks magnificent on the tv, snooker city is looking good. Is that the tram on that viaduct? Looks like DLR and a docklands scene!

^^those pics remind me of Birmingham, in fact Sheffield generally reminds me of Birmingham and vice vera :shifty:

The square looks magnificent on the tv, snooker city is looking good. Is that the tram on that viaduct? Looks like DLR and a docklands scene!

Yeah that's the tram. Would look even more like a docklands scene with a few nice skyscrapers around it ;)

^^those pics remind me of Birmingham, in fact Sheffield generally reminds me of Birmingham and vice vera :shifty:

I always think Sheffield and Bristol seem rather similar... :shifty: (although not so much buildings wise, just in feel)

Saint Vincent Street looking in both directions

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/2277520309_98f78aa9a3.jpg?v=1203460406

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7.jpg?v=0

Magnificant street. The pictures don't convey the length of it either.

I always think Sheffield and Bristol seem rather similar... :shifty: (although not so much buildings wise, just in feel)

^^yeah, busy (well, the traffic in both places are :bash:) but unhurried.

plus the hills...

Sheffield and Birmingham are similar in lots of ways. (its hard to put because it looks like city bashing or something*sigh* )

the post war architecture, in both cities (bahm and sheff) despite being rather dominant and rather ugly at times, they dont seem to detract from liking these places, in fact the post war architcture here seems to be more characterful than elsewhere in the country!

and there's lots of other reasons too :yes:

Saint Vincent Street looking in both directions

Went down here on Thursday. What a great street it is. :)

Did you walk down the hill from quite a distance up? It's quite a beauty, very grand. I like it best at dusk though in the winter with the buildings towards George Square and the square itself lit up as the commuters head home.

Hope you enjoyed yourself in Glasgow, Irwell. In all (unbiased and modest, of course) honesty, St Vincent street is one of the greatest I have ever walked on. Its home to some of my favourite buildings in the city.

I've slid down it on my arse during very cold, icy nights. No-where near as dangerous as Buchanan Street though which turns into a human skid pan the second any moisture lands on it's surface. I was walking quickly down it at 3am once to get to Royal Exchange Square where a mate was waiting with a taxi and went over four times in about 50 yards. It wasn't the drink either.

i fucking love this view:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7.jpg?v=0

really beautiful, real sci-fi, like the city just vanishes. Anyone got a bigger pic?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1028/563958834_622acb2fe7_b.jpg
By 44b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44b/) on flickr.com

I've had the same problem on Buchanan Street, Boards. Not when it's been icy, though. Those metal inlay things in the pavement near Zavvi are dangerous. On so many occasions I've ended up on my arse because of them, getting laughed at by strangers. Not fun.

It's a bitch isn't it. Kids, I prefer the street the other way personally, here's a few pics of buildings at the end of the street where it levels out ( looking the opposite direction ) gives you a better idea of the true scale of it,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/g5-3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/g3-3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/gs3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/467246_7432adaa78.jpg

Another couple of piccies of the street ( just imagine the hippies aren't there, they've been taken away to police cells and beaten for they're cheek;) )

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/406202098_120030a1fe.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/1934997342_8de1cdabe3_o.jpg

Bonus pics from my photobucket file on the way past:lol:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/1341702464_63bb22bdc6_o.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/1340812719_d857871313_o.jpg

These two are different streets to each other they just happen to have clock towers as prominant landmarks,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/tronchurch.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/g7-2.jpg

Cardiffs civic center

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2331984248_ae9df94b13_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2251406244_2a8dabacc0_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/1542364641_36bd296fef_b-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2430180239_bba304d2d8_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2442891489_601e0b2d17_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2443222085_b5550b7fa2_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2394057276_866e2a2649_b.jpg

and some others

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2321122325_d52e67a9fc_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2407446193_5affa20431_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2414953945_cfed9b2ed6_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2443275103_01144e9b46_b.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2447050153_79ecf76725_b.jpg

Did you walk down the hill from quite a distance up? It's quite a beauty, very grand. I like it best at dusk though in the winter with the buildings towards George Square and the square itself lit up as the commuters head home.
I walked pretty much the whole length of the street. Some gorgeous buildings on there.

I've slid down it on my arse during very cold, icy nights. No-where near as dangerous as Buchanan Street though which turns into a human skid pan the second any moisture lands on it's surface. I was walking quickly down it at 3am once to get to Royal Exchange Square where a mate was waiting with a taxi and went over four times in about 50 yards. It wasn't the drink either.
I can imagine that! :lol: In all seriousness, if I was to pick faults then by far and away the biggest gripe I'd have is those squares that make up the pavements. They don't look particularly nice, especially when they're smashed into a thousand bits, and they're dangerous to walk on.

I have buns of steel:lol:

Lovely buildings parkscenes in cardiff there

Long gone Birmingham Streetscapes from Photobydjnorton.com.

Before:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/ParadiseSt.jpg
After:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/ParadiseStNow.jpg

Before:
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GT CHARLES STREET
Before:
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Stefenson's Place

Before:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/StephensonPlace.jpg

After:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/StephensonPlaceNow.jpg

OLD SQUARE
Before:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/OldSquare.jpg
After:
http://www.photobydjnorton.com/OldSquareNow.jpg

Those brum pics make me so sad. i find it really shocking that they were allowed to destroy so much. :bash:

And even more depressing that buildings that would now be cherished were seen to have very little architectural merit :(.

Anyway heres some more Hull Streetscapes. Despite being heavily bombed in WW2 much of the old town remained intact, and survived through the 60s as well until a huge swathe was wiped away with the construction of a dual carriageway in the 80s.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/782/img3501qh8.jpg

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2599/img3506kb7.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6724/img3507hd6.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/449/img3509hz0.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4830/img3445bc7.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7818/img3510es7.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4791/img3485fz8.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6485/img3512mu2.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1735/img3511ve3.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6730/img3517fi8.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5800/img3493zg0.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6904/img3483ek5.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1681/img3518ss0.jpg

Leeds' SuperTram alternative ;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2457745828_6df2849804_b.jpg

Great photo that wiggely! I think a lot of people don't realise Leeds has streetscapes like that!

Wiggley, did you notice that photo is a mirror image? (Or am I just sad...)

Subliving.

Here's a couple more of Sheffield. Quite standard views that you've probably seen a million times before, but ah well I'm gonna post them anyway.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2415019358_80f20277db.jpg?v=0
http://flickr.com/photos/myeagle00/2415019358/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2443335154_1487261fc4.jpg?v=0
http://flickr.com/photos/kpc1975/2443335154/

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like the pics of hull, and those brum old/new shots are interesting! Not sure were to put this, more dockscape than streetscape, but i like it so here it is - by keith hull (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21506908@N07/)

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Wiggley, did you notice that photo is a mirror image? (Or am I just sad...)

Subliving.

I noticed that. But considering that the street looks exactly the same in the correct way, I didn't really think it was relevant to mention it when it's the streetscape that matters in this thread.

Fantastic before and after pics there, Soul13. I think that deserves a thread of its own. I tried a similar one on the Liverpool thread but it didn't last long for some reason!

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Credits to Stan.W on the following photostream.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7540239@N05/sets/72157601837375349/

^^Wow, those pics look like they could be some german city full of castle like building! :nuts:


I found this while I was looking for 'high up' shots so thought i'd post it and a few more.

Just look at that streetscape :drool:
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/cform/360272759/

From a little further back (still :drool:):
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http://de-berzerk.deviantart.com/art/Silence-68970725

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http://davism.deviantart.com/art/Sheffield-at-Twilight-55316948

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http://NAYKRATH.deviantart.com/art/Sheffield-82222156



Also a little extra - I found this, but it won't let me link it. If you like trams, have a peek ;)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erhudave/328577233/

Oh yes I didn't think of that. I see what you mean looking back with all the tourits and that now.

That is an impressive dense streetscape in Sheffield there; I like the centre image from further back. The 70s buildings add density in a way they don't in the first image. I like the glass sneaking in on the left in the centre image too.

Ah, go-on then. Here's one last one. By Hella Good showing the newly re-opened Devonshire Green (well, some of it).

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How rare it is to see green space in the centre of a city. It's great to see it there, although I don't think it wins any points on Best Present Streetscape! There is some rich architecture in Sheffield though, but too often the topography or surrounding buildings do not show the architecture as it best could be.

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How rare it is to see green space in the centre of a city. It's great to see it there, although I don't think it wins any points on Best Present Streetscape! There is some rich architecture in Sheffield though, but too often the topography or surrounding buildings do not show the architecture as it best could be.

Talking of greenspaces, in the middle of city centres, I used to eat me butties in st johns gardens, behind St Georges Hall in Liverpool. It's behind one Europe's finest buildings, but the noise of the traffic can annoy at times, as its not far from the Birkenhead tunnel entrance.

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When i was in Liverpool it did look like a nice green, though like you said it is very noisy and not secluded enough. Maybe some more hedges and planting would dampen the noise.

When i was in Liverpool it did look like a nice green, though like you said it is very noisy and not secluded enough. Maybe some more hedges and planting would dampen the noise.

Arf.

Hedges are for the country to keep animals in the fields.

OF COURSE IT'S NOISEY IT'S A FUGGEN CITY

Talking of greenspaces, in the middle of city centres, I used to eat me butties in st johns gardens, behind St Georges Hall in Liverpool. It's behind one Europe's finest buildings.It is an old church/burial yard and it is said to have interred bodies of some of Napoleon Bonaparte's army/navy that were captured by the British. The French consul places a wreath under the plaque commemorating these French fallen. When I was a kid I remember a high ranking French politician, I think it was the French prime minister, placed the wreath at the site. The sentiment on the card accompanying the wreath reads "France honours it's fallen sons"", or words like that.I know, if any of the above is wrong, the Prig will correct me.

Arf.

Hedges are for the country to keep animals in the fields.

OF COURSE IT'S NOISEY IT'S A FUGGEN CITY

I know what you mean, but I can think of examples in some cities, where green spaces in the city centres can be real havens of tranquility. Green spaces are great whatever, but I love the contrast of going from bustling urban streets and then finding a really quiet peaceful park just a few feet away.

I think you might preffer to live next to a ring road than a park then Toadboy! lol I agree Jameswales those little areas of tranquility really adds to cities feels, though they dont have to be large parks to feel special.

hmmn... ring road.. urbanism. Toadboy was talking proper bustling city, not edge city distributors for business parks and escape!

I do take the point though. I actually did a little scoping piece for Liverpool city council about pocket parks and special places in the inner core and how these should be encouraged. One of my main points however is, conceptually' these places that allow you to get away from the hustle and bustle, must not themselves dilute the hustle and bustle. You can find these little oasis', but then you must be able to get back to the thriving metropolis, with all its noise, activity and vibe... as Toad stated!

Wiggley's mate is losing his hair at a young age. Life's not fair.

St Nicholas churchyard, Bluecoat, St Lukes, the courtyard to the rear of Rigbys, all great little escapes that seem to defy being slap bang in the downtown sometimes abutting major roads.

Hedged, tranquil, parkland is great but in the scale of our cities they can't be downtown, outer inner suburbs/districts if that makes sense, but we need to me maximising the use of our small downtown areas better, smart thinking and planning can see dense activity on sites with more scope for squares and 'pocket' parks.

Wiggley's mate is losing his hair at a young age. Life's not fair.

He probably pulled it out whilst arguing with Wiggley!

hmmn... ring road.. urbanism. Toadboy was talking proper bustling city, not edge city distributors for business parks and escape!

I do take the point though. I actually did a little scoping piece for Liverpool city council about pocket parks and special places in the inner core and how these should be encouraged. One of my main points however is, conceptually' these places that allow you to get away from the hustle and bustle, must not themselves dilute the hustle and bustle. You can find these little oasis', but then you must be able to get back to the thriving metropolis, with all its noise, activity and vibe... as Toad stated!

I agree; this is well excecuted in London. But then there are extremes; Leeds City Centre has Park Square and that's pretty much it. You have to go to the inner city before you get to the first green space that isn't a verge or something. On the other hand, somewhere like Sheffield the green spaces (and open areas in general) definitely dilute the urbanity (even though there are some very nice streetscapes, and some people think the open space allows them to be viewed individually on each of their own merits). I think there's the added effect of the topography in Sheffield too.

Steering this thread in a tad different direction- its not going to win best streetscape, it's just i thought this city deserves a mention.
Always thought that Plymouth was a city to look out for in the future, if it ever gets its act (unfortunately its a big one at that...) together, then rival cities outside the south east beware!

Annoyingly, the makings of a truly fantastic city are all there, they've just yet to be truly realised.

Plymouth's waterfront vista and natural setting is i think, easily one of the best in the country and is what keeps this city from truly being the hole it could well have ended up as. (no offence)

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Not only that, it has the finest Lido in all the land.
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What's more, it's partially restored my faith in that one day modern UK architecture outside London could actually be good, even more astounding it's happened in Plymouth of all places, well known for its... blandness.

even the name of the building is attractive.
:drool:
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The Barbican is very nice too :drool: the nicest area in the city.
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It must be said that despite the city centre being rather... :puke: It's probably one of the best if not the best 1950-60s masterplanned centres in the UK, for the layout that is, the boulevard that is Armada way, despite being overtly cheap early post modern, is actually rather attractive, and the pedestrianisation has helped enormously in sort of creating a central square, and yet is the main retail thorughfare.

Scrubbed up, these could be very attractive post war buildings
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The quirky Guildhall.

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But as it stands Plym' is still the economic underperformer (along with a lack of government funding) like the rest of the region it lies in, failing to live up to its potential (damn that word...) and even more annoying, its slap bang in what is despite all it's problems, one of the most beautiful parts of the country and yet on the city at this moment in time just feels like a big let down, (however, watch this space.)


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/thewomanmoose/179242308/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/webrarian/623319229/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidcranch/614549809/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glamhag/

Great shout with Plymouth, a right mess in parts, offerings of granduer and a hint of solid urbanism around every other corner. The problem is I can't see what will change it unless Plymouth becomes the hub of a global industry, the next Microsoft or whatever.

Fantastic setting, some amazing housing and streets.

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Thankyou someone for finally acknowledging Plymouth. I hate it's city centre, and it has a long way to go, but in the summer this city is perhaps unrivalled in the UK. Yes I am serious. It has a staggering seaside location, and it's set amongst some of the most beautiful land in the world.

It is starting to head in the right direction, and even tall buildings (20 storeys or more) are being built. Mark my words this city will be the Barcelona of the UK in ten years time. The Mackay plan will change Plymouth, and he is the same guy you did the plan for Barcelona.

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That war memorial is IDENTICAL to Portsmouths :nuts:

well those post war fellows were rather cheap ;) :yes:

Portsmouth and plymouth are very similar except Portsmourh is more consistenly pretty and plymouth has a better topography (oh and after seeing the pic of the lido im considering another trip to Plymouth!).

Just a note Liverpool and Glasgow are now on birds eye view of virtual earth, id say Glasgow was definately far ahead of other cities in terms of victorian architecture though it looks quite monotonous after a while in the cemter (though extreemly grand). Liverpool looks exactly as i remember it, a little bit of a mess but huge potential for modern and old sitting well together.

triple post :bash:

double post.

i wonder if this reply will get posted?

I never realised just how tiny the back yards in most of Liverpool's terraces were!

The Glasgow ones are fooktastic to say the least, shows you how :drool: the place is , pollokshields is amazing!

maybe we'll start seeing new city bash comparisons :|

Just a note Liverpool and Glasgow are now on birds eye view of virtual earth, id say Glasgow was definately far ahead of other cities in terms of victorian architecture though it looks quite monotonous after a while in the cemter (though extreemly grand). Liverpool looks exactly as i remember it, a little bit of a mess but huge potential for modern and old sitting well together.
Wow!!!

Glasgow, if I do say so myself, looks incredible!

I'm going to be wasting time looking at this for hours! I can't believe it gives you 4 detailed perspectives on the city - amazing!

Puts an incredible slant on things - the M8 past the Kingston Bridge (Southside) looks even more like something straight out of LA from the perspectives of looking along it to the East and West.

Fabulous.