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TomD'07
December 2nd, 2007, 09:50 PM
i know this may sound ridiculous but does it matter much if the steelwork is rusting?

mulattokid
December 3rd, 2007, 03:29 PM
i know this may sound ridiculous but does it matter much if the steelwork is rusting?

Have you ever seen railway lines after a strike? Just as rusted, but no more likely to snap...its superficial.

mulattokid
December 3rd, 2007, 03:30 PM
I am still wondering why the core stopped at 20 floors :doh:

wipasnapper
December 5th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Will be back taking pics from my floor when I return to work from Uni in the next 2 weeks.

Its amazing how quickly the steelwork is rising so quickly. What will be used to finish the final 3 floors? Concrete or steel?

Ntn_Rawlings
December 5th, 2007, 08:36 PM
I am still wondering why the core stopped at 20 floors

The last 3 floors may be steel only? it wouldent make much sense, but its possible.

Luke
December 17th, 2007, 09:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics171207001.jpg

Cranesetc
December 17th, 2007, 09:24 PM
Steelwork support for a tower crane on top of the core at the 14/15th floor level is now in place.

wipasnapper
December 17th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Here is some pictures taken this morning.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8169/17122007281jh6.th.jpg


http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/826/17122007282mv3.th.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9938/17122007283yt2.th.jpg

mulattokid
December 18th, 2007, 01:45 PM
Many thanks..can you make them larger?

ill tonkso
December 18th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Regarding the top floors being steel only that does make sense. Its a sloped roof construction after all.

wipasnapper
December 18th, 2007, 08:45 PM
Here you go :)

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9094/17122007281of4.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9121/17122007282ux8.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/340/17122007283td7.jpg

mulattokid
December 18th, 2007, 11:12 PM
Oh yes...well done wipasnapper

fitz44
December 20th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Great moody shot from the webcam.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/camputer7.jpg

wipasnapper
December 22nd, 2007, 12:45 PM
Here are some more from yesterday

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9923/18122007284ai9.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/323/21122007285jj7.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4453/21122007286lr1.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5951/21122007287ex4.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5996/21122007288fl4.jpg

GazKinz
December 23rd, 2007, 02:32 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/2128744235_b9678e111d_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/2128747043_1cde843fa2_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2129527250_02450b992f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2006/2128758885_29757a8719_b.jpg

There's a new render on the hoardings

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2219/2129530912_641c1c0a88_b.jpg

potto
December 23rd, 2007, 11:56 AM
lol ive been looking for that render on the net for like 2 weeks now, didnt think of just taking a photo of the board and posting it!

jimbo
December 23rd, 2007, 02:45 PM
you know, I was a bit bored of Ropemaker, but seeing that new renderoid has opened my eyes. A series of decreasing boxes with wraparound terracing - looks much more interesting from that angle than the simply glass box shots we've seen from the Honorable Artillary Co each. However, from street level, we're unlikely to see the step backs so clearly.

potto
December 23rd, 2007, 02:48 PM
looks like at ground level we will forever be cast in darkness!

rickster2k
December 24th, 2007, 05:49 PM
you know, I was a bit bored of Ropemaker, but seeing that new renderoid has opened my eyes. A series of decreasing boxes with wraparound terracing - looks much more interesting from that angle than the simply glass box shots we've seen from the Honorable Artillary Co each. However, from street level, we're unlikely to see the step backs so clearly.

Agreed. I'm actually quite interested to see how this turns out, the above render looks pretty interesting, esp the roof terracing. The original renders were pretty poor to say the least, but even the cladding in the aerial shot looks promising.

mrout
January 19th, 2008, 04:13 PM
any updates? this thing is flying up!! it's enormous

Andyinwindsor22
January 20th, 2008, 04:40 PM
when i was looking on the webcam look like a Red tower crane base on top of the core.

Zedferret
January 20th, 2008, 06:30 PM
Is it me or is there something very odd about this render? The tall side of the building is on the Citypoint side, yet in the construction the tall side of the core steps away from Citypoint.???

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2219/2129530912_641c1c0a88_b.jpg

ill tonkso
January 20th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Thats just the core, the whole core is in the taller element. They appear to have made it so the upper floor lifts are central to the upper floors while on the edge of the larger lower floors. Makes sense when thinking about space usage.

Zedferret
January 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Yeh, I see that now. The whole core is only for the tallest part. This building is bigger than I thought.

spenster
January 20th, 2008, 11:13 PM
This one is going to turn out much better than everyone think. Cladding will be classy and innovative - mark my words!

Trances
January 21st, 2008, 04:14 PM
From this weekend
(Sorry about the low quality late night shots)

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/200120081933-Rope.jpg

Inside
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/200120081931-Rope.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/200120081930-Rope.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/200120081929-Rope.jpg

PFarrey
January 26th, 2008, 09:45 PM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3284/rp61280x768qx0.jpg
By pfarrey (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pfarrey), shot with DSC-W90 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-W90&make=SONY) at 2008-01-26

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9836/rp51280x768so7.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rp51280x768so7.jpg)http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7703/rp41280x768tb6.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rp41280x768tb6.jpg)http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8039/rp31280x768kn5.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rp31280x768kn5.jpg)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1669/rp21280x768wm6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rp21280x768wm6.jpg)http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2199/rp11280x768aw7.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rp11280x768aw7.jpg)

Trances
January 28th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Oh beat me to it. I was around there this weekend. But I will share a few diff angles !

Trances
January 28th, 2008, 11:26 AM
From the High walk in Baraiban
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/270120081989.jpg

From the regents canal

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/270120081988.jpg

Zoomed

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc159/trancestrances/London%20Skyscrapers/Ropemaker%20Place/270120081990-1.jpg

sam-whit-kid
January 28th, 2008, 07:21 PM
^^ the barbican looks a bit dire there. looks like a sewage treatment plant :S

LostJohnny
January 31st, 2008, 10:35 PM
^^ the barbican looks a bit dire there. looks like a sewage treatment plant :S


ROFL :lol:

Taken today- Don't have wide-angle, so is several shots stitched together. :p

My lense got wet in the rain too - so excuse quality.

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs26/i/2008/031/a/0/RopeMaker_01_by_JohnnySix.jpg

TomD'07
January 31st, 2008, 11:32 PM
Thanks as ever for the updates. i dunno why but i love london in the rain!

Cranesetc
February 1st, 2008, 10:28 PM
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker5.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker6.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker7.jpg

Sitback
February 2nd, 2008, 12:57 AM
That's some scary shit.

fitz44
February 2nd, 2008, 11:06 AM
Wonderful shots Cranes!

PFarrey
February 11th, 2008, 07:41 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3995/rp11280x768hc5.jpg

PFarrey
February 18th, 2008, 05:22 PM
Maybe we will see cladding on this soon.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1449/rmp11280x768ot6.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8452/rmp21280x768iu0.jpg

LostJohnny
February 18th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Maybe we will see cladding on this soon.



Haha, who was following who today! :banana:

Also visited this site around 12ish :

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs28/i/2008/049/e/0/Ropemaker_02_by_JohnnySix.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs28/i/2008/049/6/8/Ropemaker_04_by_JohnnySix.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/049/f/a/Ropemaker_03_by_JohnnySix.jpg

london lad
February 20th, 2008, 09:01 PM
Small paragraph in ES hinted that Macquarie were close to taking space here for their HQ.

jimbo
February 20th, 2008, 11:40 PM
could be a big coup for British Land if they get a letting secured here. Macquarie are in Citypoint at the moment I think. Quick shuffle next door, no probs, and I know that despite market dislocation, their infrastructure funds continue to be rather acquisitive.

Manuel
February 24th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Ropemaker Place poking up from St Paul last sunday
http://i30.tinypic.com/whfzmt.jpg

dirtydog
February 24th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Has the core topped out now? I'm wondering if the height in the above photo is anything close to the building's final height. Obviously it is dwarfed by City Point at the moment. I believe the finished building will be about 31 metres shorter than CP - it looks more than that at the moment I think (hope).

Luke
March 9th, 2008, 12:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics080308006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics080308008.jpg

Milton Court, now named The Heron according to the hoardings, on the left.

ill tonkso
March 9th, 2008, 07:39 PM
[QUOTE=Luke;18924303][/IMG]

Milton Court, how dumb can they be? Naming it 'The Heron'...

GazKinz
March 10th, 2008, 12:35 AM
Here are a couple of mine from yesterday.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture048079.jpg
Not much of that old Brutalist building left now.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture048081.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture048143.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture048151.jpg
It's quite hard to get a decent vantage point of this hulking beast, this spot seems like the best though.

fitz44
March 14th, 2008, 06:51 PM
From the Barbican;

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London735.jpg

potto
April 3rd, 2008, 07:38 AM
cladding is going up on this one

musefreek
April 3rd, 2008, 03:38 PM
cladding is going up on this one

oh please can someone post photos of this?!

i'm really excited about this building. :cheers:

Manuel
April 3rd, 2008, 11:44 PM
cladding is going up on this one

Potto...do you think you can get away like this? how is it?

potto
April 4th, 2008, 09:39 AM
ha. Um it was only 4 or 5 panels at the bottom on one of the side streets. It was interesting, I assume high quality cladding, glass quite clear from one angle then these etchings came into play as i moved along the street forming a pattern that become increasingly visible. I didnt get much of a feel as to how it would all seem on a larger scale though

fitz44
April 4th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Well the cladding is starting to appear in places around the building;

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London915.jpg

It's too early to say, I think how much it's going to transform this building. The photo's dont really do it justice, as you walk past it there are small reflective "dots" in the panels which wink and reflect. Could look good but needs time, a proper clean and perhaps some backlight.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London903.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London910.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London911.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London905.jpg

wjfox
April 4th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Has the core topped out now? I'm wondering if the height in the above photo is anything close to the building's final height. Obviously it is dwarfed by City Point at the moment. I believe the finished building will be about 31 metres shorter than CP - it looks more than that at the moment I think (hope).

Looks like there's another 3 floors to go. The top floors will be steel frame I presume.

Manuel
April 4th, 2008, 09:27 PM
Thanks Fitzz...looks intriguing!

milkymilky
April 6th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Couple more from today:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/mjf297/CIMG2897.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/mjf297/CIMG2896.jpg

GazKinz
April 7th, 2008, 11:24 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2397108980_a6044c6898_b.jpg
From City Road Basin

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/2396174703_0f00878143_b.jpg
Bunhill Row

Sitback
April 9th, 2008, 12:45 PM
How tall is City Point?

dirtydog
April 9th, 2008, 01:01 PM
127 metres.

flying tackle
April 17th, 2008, 06:38 PM
love this building its gonna look quality

really adds to the bulky city effect of london city aswell

ill tonkso
April 18th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Im just laughing at the moment, we all complained (myself included) that this was going to be a shit development, now look at it!

dirtydog
April 18th, 2008, 04:31 PM
^ what's so great about it, in your opinion?

ill tonkso
April 18th, 2008, 06:48 PM
The Cladding is awesome, the original renders promised us a pile of shit.

chrissyb
April 19th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I was really disappointed with this - seemed like such a lost opportunity for a great location, but it does seems to be shaping up reasonably well without setting the world alight.

GazKinz
April 21st, 2008, 10:20 PM
Updates from today

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture067007a.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture067011a.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture067012.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture067020me2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture067022a.jpg

Hmm cladding, not sure what to make of it, looks quite green, I like the angles though, different.

Luke
April 22nd, 2008, 07:34 PM
I love this cladding because it has depth. The angled sections are green, but to my eyes I thought the surrounding flat glass was blue.

DarJoLe
April 22nd, 2008, 08:08 PM
In the flesh and in the sunshine the cladding is amazing. Even from the small section already I could see what the architects are trying to achieve. From one angle the cladding is dark, turn slightly towards the sun and it turns into a whitish hue. Amazing.

potto
April 23rd, 2008, 09:53 AM
yeah just about to type the same thing. In fact I will. The etchings on that cladding is incredibly exciting changing to this fantasy shimmer at some points depending on the light. This isnt a distant view but even up close on a per panel basis. Terrible massing and it will effect the stunted elegance of this end of Citypoint but it is the first time that a single panel of cladding has caught my eye. It is going to be quite dark down here so the cladding has to be good.

iron-fighter
April 26th, 2008, 10:08 AM
We are having a big push and will be starting the 20th floor on Saturday ..fingers crossed

iron-fighter
April 26th, 2008, 10:12 AM
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker5.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker6.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/ropemaker7.jpg

GREAT PHOTO I PRINTED IT OFF AND GAVE IT TO THE ERECTOR

wjfox
April 26th, 2008, 10:19 AM
Welcome back, Iron Fighter! Do you have any more news about Leadenhall? Last time you said the basements were starting in October and the core/superstructure would be rising in Jan 2009 - is this still the case??

Cranesetc
April 26th, 2008, 01:32 PM
GREAT PHOTO I PRINTED IT OFF AND GAVE IT TO THE ERECTOR

I hope he liked it!

fitz44
May 3rd, 2008, 05:52 PM
Definitely better close-up.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London963-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London959-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/London960-2.jpg

ferge
May 3rd, 2008, 07:32 PM
Eee whadda chunky bugger :|

makes some of the CW residents look slim and streamline

milkymilky
May 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM
Funky cladding, might be a bit much when it's all done though...

chest
May 10th, 2008, 01:50 AM
a hazy smoggy distant shot of it on the skyline

http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/hazy.JPG

london lad
May 16th, 2008, 10:32 PM
British Land launched its 600,000 sq ft office scheme

16.05.08

British Land launched its 600,000 sq ft Ropemaker office scheme, which features four roof gardens, in the City of London this week, ahead of completion next year.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2ltt3dx.jpg

delores
May 17th, 2008, 12:07 AM
so its now the hanging gardens of babylon?

eddyk
May 17th, 2008, 10:59 AM
It'll look quite good then.

architecture critic
May 21st, 2008, 02:53 PM
Has anyone noticed that there are subtle colour shifts between different parts of the building? Some are different blue shades, some silver. This will be interesting as more cladding goes on to see how this affects (improves?) the massing.

fitz44
May 21st, 2008, 03:00 PM
It's doomed to be a Yorkie bar and not a Flake unfortunately. Shame, that cladding would have looked great on a tower.

Newcastle Guy
May 21st, 2008, 04:44 PM
It's doomed to be a Yorkie bar and not a Flake unfortunately. Shame, that cladding would have looked great on a tower.

Good. Yorkies p*ss all over Flakes any day of the week.:lol:

gazzab1990
May 21st, 2008, 06:45 PM
I'd call it a raisin and biscuit yorkie, my favourite :yes:

fitz44
May 21st, 2008, 07:01 PM
Only the crumbliest, flakiest person would put a Yorkie over a Flake.

Newcastle Guy
May 21st, 2008, 07:30 PM
Only the crumbliest, flakiest person would put a Yorkie over a Flake.

And only the ponciest, girliest person would put a Flake over a Yorkie...

Anyone else feel this is going a little off topic?:D

gazzab1990
May 21st, 2008, 10:24 PM
And only the ponciest, girliest person would put a Flake over a Yorkie...

:laugh:

ill tonkso
May 22nd, 2008, 12:05 AM
And only the ponciest, girliest person would put a Flake over a Yorkie...

Anyone else feel this is going a little off topic?:D

:shifty:

fitz44
May 23rd, 2008, 07:36 PM
Anyone else feel this is going a little off topic?:D

Mmm Topic Bars...yum. :)

This cladding is strange. Today it looked really dark and grey, especially along Moor Lane. I don't think it's going to be enough to save this building.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN248-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN238-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN246.jpg

jimbo
May 23rd, 2008, 08:29 PM
to be fair, the positive impact of the roof gardens is only really going to be felt when viewed from above. From street level you won't be able to make much out at all - bit like Willis I guess. Its a bit of a nothing building in terms of its impact and its architectural merits, the key thing being we're all hoping MacQuarie or Deutsche take it, thus bolstering BL's pipeline and confirming their onward construction of 122 Leadenhall Street.

Zedferret
May 31st, 2008, 01:04 AM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000839.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000834.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000835.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000836.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000837.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000840.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000841.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p49/zedferret/S7000842.jpg

ferge
May 31st, 2008, 01:07 AM
Really dunno what to make of that cladding, I neither hate it or love it.. completely bemused by it :|

JGG
May 31st, 2008, 02:19 AM
to be fair, the positive impact of the roof gardens is only really going to be felt when viewed from above. From street level you won't be able to make much out at all - bit like Willis I guess. Its a bit of a nothing building in terms of its impact and its architectural merits, the key thing being we're all hoping MacQuarie or Deutsche take it, thus bolstering BL's pipeline and confirming their onward construction of 122 Leadenhall Street.

I cannot imagine any of those two banks moving to such an average building; I think this Ropemaker building is going to be standing empty for a very long time considering the huge pipeline of much more attractive buildings in better locations coming to the market the next three years.

delores
May 31st, 2008, 02:51 AM
yea its a very strange building, it's not really following fashion or that matter any trends either? and its bulk is somewhat overbearing and austere.

Bowater
May 31st, 2008, 06:06 PM
It would have looked ok with a Chicago style brick exterior. The cladding is bollocks though, not hideous but an unexciting effort. Well one to fade into the London's mediocre 1980s glass buildings. Function not form.

Why don't some architects try? Given half an hour I could come up with some good ideas, Google them & clone some designs tweak them for this setting, maybe mix & match, etc.

Sitback
June 1st, 2008, 01:44 AM
It's a bit premature to judge if you ask me.

How dense is this area gonna be once The Heron is finished. Amazing.

snail456
June 1st, 2008, 06:33 PM
I'm going to get so confused between Heron and The Heron.

jimbo
June 11th, 2008, 09:43 PM
bit more bulk to the area - not much else from this angle - the roof terraces are the only redeeming feature IMO

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5506/img1997uj2.jpg

mulattokid
June 11th, 2008, 10:20 PM
We were right about the top floors being coreless and made of steel

GazKinz
June 12th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Making an impact on the skyline from Angel
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_018-1.jpg

A view I haven't seen before from Finsbury Square
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_040.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_044.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_045.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_046.jpg

I count 23 floors, topped out?

Luke
June 13th, 2008, 12:57 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics120608015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics120608016.jpg

1LONDONER
June 13th, 2008, 01:25 PM
That view from Finsbury Square is sexy.

Mega density :D

Zedferret
June 13th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Doesn't look much like the render.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5154RopemakerPlace(schemeC)_pic3.jpg

DarJoLe
June 13th, 2008, 02:38 PM
It's when the sun hits it at a certain angle it goes that blue purple colour.

rickster2k
June 13th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Making an impact on the skyline from Angel

A view I haven't seen before from Finsbury Square
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture092_040.jpg


It actually looks quite good from this angle, quite New York'esque with the part in the forground.

GazKinz
June 13th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Newcastle Guy
June 14th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Doesn't look much like the render.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5154RopemakerPlace(schemeC)_pic3.jpg

I don't think they could have come up with worse renders for this scheme. The cladding is different, it's interesting. Without it, this building wouldn't be up to much, but I'm actually quite happy with how it is turning out, how it looks totally different from other angles etc... even in terms of color. It could look quite cool when the gardens are done on the different tiers. I guess we won't know until it's finished and we get the full impact of how it looks on the skyline.

iron-fighter
June 14th, 2008, 07:53 PM
yep thats the lot !!!!! on to the next

gothicform
June 14th, 2008, 08:57 PM
yes the cladding changes colour depending on where the sun is. if you want the building to look like that rendering it has to be those exact conditions. looks completely different here doesnt it

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5154RopemakerPlace(schemeC)_pic4.jpg

its like the willis building taken four hours apart -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic3.jpg

Luke
June 14th, 2008, 10:26 PM
yep thats the lot !!!!! on to the next

Where will that be Iron Fighter?

GazKinz
June 15th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Gothicform at what time of day does willis have that red tint?

gothicform
June 15th, 2008, 03:45 AM
it depends on the angle of sun. that was taken last month and it happened then about midday. see?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/78WillisBuilding_pic25.jpg

milkymilky
June 15th, 2008, 01:05 PM
its like the willis building taken four hours apart-

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic3.jpg

Wow those trees lost their leaves quickly then!!! :)

jimbo
June 15th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Pleasing speed to how this has gone up, and how it lurketh from behind Citypoint.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4521/img2041ef4.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6188/img2042xa4.jpg

gothicform
June 15th, 2008, 04:08 PM
haha milky. i mean in terms of time. one at 12pm and one at 4pm... they were taken a month apart.

Comdot
June 15th, 2008, 04:39 PM
gothic and his x-ray radioactive camera storming through london again.

sam-whit-kid
June 15th, 2008, 08:58 PM
what did city point look like before its reclad?

DarJoLe
June 15th, 2008, 10:25 PM
http://www.photo-zen.com/photos/big/loncity05.jpg

http://www.photo-zen.com/photos/big/loncity01.jpg

TomD'07
June 15th, 2008, 11:01 PM
100 times better after the reclad, like the old stock exchange.

mulattokid
June 16th, 2008, 11:05 AM
^^^ It was built specifically for the HQ of BP.

sam-whit-kid
June 16th, 2008, 09:53 PM
i think it looks quite cool :P

DarJoLe
June 16th, 2008, 10:09 PM
They built a silver replica in Canary Wharf ;-)

wipasnapper
June 17th, 2008, 05:43 AM
Im amazed by the fast progress of this building. The finished product of the cladding should be interesting since it does not even look like the supposed renders. I will be returning back to work next week from University and take a few pics.

:cheers:

london lad
June 21st, 2008, 12:48 PM
Check out the video- Looks like a cityscape job.

http://www.ropemakerlondon.com/

Cant wait for the 122 Microsite :)

Zedferret
June 21st, 2008, 01:19 PM
British Land do the best renders on the planet!

rickster2k
June 21st, 2008, 07:41 PM
Very slick site. I like the way you can view each floorplate.

It actually think this will turn out a good project. Cladding looks great so far and some of the renders look fantastic. I will be interested if the roof terraces turn out anywhere as good as the renders, somehow I think they won't.

The downside is that this is a pretty bulky, stumpy project and although it adds bulk behind Citypoint it could have been much better if it were stretched in height to 150m or 175m with those floor setbacks, now that would have looked good.

sam-whit-kid
June 22nd, 2008, 12:28 AM
bulky or not tho, it still packs a punch on the soar factor when looking up to the top on the non seback side. hope i described it well enough, i dont know the street names to pinpoint it. :)

wipasnapper
June 23rd, 2008, 08:03 PM
Here are some pics taken from the top today. It looks like they have also completed the steel works at the top and all its needed is the concrete over the steel mesh.

http://i29.tinypic.com/a1n4wo.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/vpkqcx.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/11ghgkk.jpg

gothicform
June 25th, 2008, 04:33 AM
who is the quantity surveyor of the scheme?

fitz44
July 16th, 2008, 08:09 PM
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/various216-1.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/various214-1.jpg

Luke
July 16th, 2008, 11:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics160708001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics160708004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/BuildingPics160708009.jpg

Madman
July 17th, 2008, 08:47 AM
Nice PR from BL but this building performs the most elementary of architectural mistakes - it looks miles better from god view than at street or skyline level...tut tut

flying tackle
July 23rd, 2008, 08:17 PM
that is the best render video ive ever seen in my life

Loyalist.
July 23rd, 2008, 08:30 PM
I find it hard to get excited about this building. A skyscraper with 23 floors??? LOL

I remember seeing the Twin Towers in New York for the first time in 1999, I was breathless, I couldn't stop staring at those magnificent buildings!

jayo
July 23rd, 2008, 08:43 PM
Its not a skyscraper;It was never meant to be one.In the world a 150 m+ building is widely regarded as a skyscraper.But i do know what you mean :)
London needs a pair of 400m + twin towers :D

Loyalist.
July 23rd, 2008, 09:42 PM
You're right jayo. Building something similar to the Twin Towers in London would be a great tribute to our friendship with New York. If Boris Johnson put his weight behind this idea, it could become a reality.

GazKinz
July 23rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
Never ever going to happen, sorry mate, twin towers of the their scale would totally dominate London, maybe in CW they would be OK, but then there are the City airport flight paths, restricting anything over about 240m, plus stylistically they're very much a product of their time and Boris putting his weight behind them!!!! Ha!

DarJoLe
July 23rd, 2008, 10:23 PM
If Boris Johnson put his weight behind this idea, it could become a reality.

There would be such a backlash he would be voted out of office as soon as possible. Therefore I am all for this idea.

jayo
July 23rd, 2008, 10:32 PM
True,but i can see 350m+ buildings coming to London pretty soon after the shard,pinnacle and heron are completed.At least boris will hopefully be gone by then :D

jayo
July 23rd, 2008, 10:35 PM
Or maybe we could cheat like moscow and build a 360 metre building and claim its 506 metres because of its spire :D

LostJohnny
July 25th, 2008, 11:38 PM
yes the cladding changes colour depending on where the sun is. if you want the building to look like that rendering it has to be those exact conditions. looks completely different here doesnt it

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5154RopemakerPlace(schemeC)_pic4.jpg

its like the willis building taken four hours apart -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4655TheFenchurchAvenueBuilding_pic3.jpg

Funny - as I was walking back the other day I was reminded of this post..

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/203/c/e/Dead_or_Alive_by_JohnnySix.jpg

wipasnapper
July 28th, 2008, 04:02 PM
There was a slight accident where I think a cladding panel fell whilst being hoisted. I'm not too sure as to what exactly happened but luckly no one was injured.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2714/28072008019sb5.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3626/28072008020oe9.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9587/28072008021ln4.jpg

GazKinz
July 28th, 2008, 09:14 PM
Saturday updates

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture112_050a.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture112_052b.jpg


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture112_058a.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture112_060a.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture112_062b.jpg

Pompey77
July 29th, 2008, 10:28 AM
This building is just horrible it has no redeeming features whatsoever.

And how did this get through planning with a render like this:


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5154RopemakerPlace(schemeC)_pic3.jpg

Its worse thaan those two buildings in front of it and thats saying something because they are both also appauling.

mulattokid
July 29th, 2008, 10:40 AM
There was a slight accident where I think a cladding panel fell whilst being hoisted. I'm not too sure as to what exactly happened but luckly no one was injured.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2714/28072008019sb5.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3626/28072008020oe9.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9587/28072008021ln4.jpg

This is just so funny, I'm surprised noone has commented. Brilliant action shots...little bewildered faces :lol:

Jamandell (d69)
July 29th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Pompey? Whats wrong with you? I've only seen incredibly miserable posts from you today.

Pompey77
July 29th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Well considering ive posted in the 'lets demolish waterloo and build some offices and another Euston thread' and on a few quite bad buildings such as this. I am quite depressed by it all. + being told im a humourless idiot for not insighting mass clearances of the Isle of Dogs and the by passing of democratic system for the sake of some more bloody skyscrapers. That and im a bit hung-over. :bash: :fiddle:

chest
August 10th, 2008, 07:37 PM
just visible on the skyline...

http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/croomshill5.JPG

delores
August 14th, 2008, 12:25 PM
so this insanely ugly piece of crap of a building is stopping leadenhall!!!!!!!

jayo
August 14th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Bastards.

chest
August 16th, 2008, 12:49 AM
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/primrose6.JPG

delores
August 16th, 2008, 10:56 AM
that fowl council block in the forground refurbished in the 80's has to be one of London's Eyesaws.

jimbo
August 16th, 2008, 11:06 AM
^^ that's one three - they are just south of Mornington Crescent tube the others have blue and yellow roof trims. Grim! Nice photo chest - Primrose Hill I presume.

Come on MacQuarie - get yourselves installed and give BL and boost!

Manuel
August 16th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Ropemaker place is nice filler in this pic. The best pics from Primrose Hill are at the evening sunset and I hope Ropemaker will ad to the drama of colours and shimmering glass facades.

golddex
August 16th, 2008, 11:41 AM
and pleeeeeeeeeeaaaase can they paint the Barbican towers.... behold the power of white paint!!

jayo
August 16th, 2008, 12:31 PM
That would be catastrophic and above all,really,really stupid ;)

twilight_2008
August 16th, 2008, 03:32 PM
Clean them and then paint! It would improve the area a lot IMO.

Brummyboy92
August 16th, 2008, 04:13 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/primrose6.JPG

What the hell are those three identical brown skyscrapers, are they going to be demolished or somthing, there hurendous!

dirtydog
August 16th, 2008, 04:22 PM
The Barbican towers, and I doubt they'll be demolished any time soon ;)

I think they look better as they are now than they would if they were painted white.

They aren't exactly beauties but they also aren't as prominent on the skyline as that particular angle suggests.

(oh and they aren't quite skyscrapers ;))

Manuel
August 16th, 2008, 08:14 PM
The Barbican towers are perfectly nice towers, like concrete skeletons with a real sense of height. There are not cladded in glass right...is this the problem?

twilight_2008
August 16th, 2008, 09:59 PM
They're listed, they wont go. VERY sadly. They should be painted white.

Comdot
August 17th, 2008, 12:20 AM
^^ that's one three - they are just south of Mornington Crescent tube the others have blue and yellow roof trims. Grim!

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/IMG_1114%20copy.jpg

GazKinz
August 17th, 2008, 12:47 AM
that fowl council block in the forground refurbished in the 80's has to be one of London's Eyesaws.

They look bloody rough don't they! I'm yet to see a photo of them pre-reclad. I'm generally against recladding tower blocks, they usually end up looking worse.

ferge
August 17th, 2008, 12:47 AM
When i first got into (if thats how you put it...) or 'acknowledged' city high rises, I absolutely hated the Barbican.. but the truth is they are as much a vital part of the cityscape as tower 42, the gherkin and the eye etc.. they are a symbol of time in the city, just like the tower of london etc etc.. they do not need recladding and certainly do not want to be painted white of all colours, I'd rather they were glow in the dark yellow, green and orange before having them white!

Comdot
August 17th, 2008, 01:04 AM
the barbican is like the friend you have that you know nobody else will like until they get to know them. trouble is i think many people, especially visitors, don't have time to. i remember one of the first times i drove into london, and i drove through the area, and hated the dirty things, and the area. i like them now, but i wish something could be done, because i don't believe many people get to the stage i've got to with them. i don't think they should have to, either.

gazzab1990
August 17th, 2008, 07:07 PM
They should just give them a good jet wash. Have they even been cleaned since they were built? You can see the difference a good clean makes to stone buildings in London, so I would have thought the same would go with concrete?

delores
August 17th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Maybe the residents like the ' lived in ' look of the concrete. It would look better cleaned

jayo
August 18th, 2008, 10:02 AM
They're listed, they wont go. VERY sadly. They should be painted white.

Have you ever been to the barbician?
They would stick out like fucking dildos on the skyline if you painted them white.Its a stupid idea.There listed for a reason.Jesus,do people have any common sense these days :ohno:

potto
August 18th, 2008, 03:58 PM
painting the Barbican white would also merge with the newly gleaming St Pauls when viewed from the south bank. Also the Concrete of the Barbican is highly textured.

Jaeger
August 18th, 2008, 04:53 PM
The Barbican towers, and I doubt they'll be demolished any time soon ;)

I think they look better as they are now than they would if they were painted white.

They aren't exactly beauties but they also aren't as prominent on the skyline as that particular angle suggests.

(oh and they aren't quite skyscrapers ;))

The Barbican has listed status, so is unlikely to be pulled down or painted.

fitz44
August 18th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Cleaning concrete can be a tricky and expensive business and as the Barbican is listed it may even require special consent. Concrete can be extremely variable in quality depending on the quality of the materials used (including the quality of the water - which should be of drinkable standard!), the expertise of the builders at the time of construction, the nature of the surface finish (rough, smooth, special textures etc) and the amount of weathering and pollution the surfaces have suffered. As the Barbican is now largely private the cost will have to be borne by the residents - i.e. it probably ain't gonna happen any time soon.

dirtydog
August 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM
The Barbican has listed status, so is unlikely to be pulled down or painted.

Fine with me, I'm not the one who has a problem with them.

golddex
August 19th, 2008, 12:44 AM
ok so maybe not white, but painted something, anything.... they would be more Miami and less North Korea (this would be a good thing). As a New Worldie with some fresh perspective, here is a nice simple test for which buildings should be kept as they are - when you're next to them or inside them, how do they make you feel? If you feel awesome (St Paul's), no problem. If you feel energetic and alive (Gherkin), no problem. If you start to sneer and feel like shite (barbican) it probably needs some work. There is so much hardness already to the city - stone, concrete, tar. No wonder foreigners think of London as grey, even if they havent actually visited. Its not so much the weather as our inability to make.things.look.nice...

hugh
August 19th, 2008, 01:37 AM
The Barbican is a great monument to modernism - the craggy concrete towers an ode to rugged urbanity. They should be seen in context. I understand an argument in favour of tearing them down, and building something new, but the notion of painting them is preposterous.

philb
August 19th, 2008, 01:48 AM
Personally I am not a fan of them but I try to appreciate the architectural merits for preserving them. I agree with the previous comments that painting them white would be a disaster.

Comdot
August 19th, 2008, 06:24 PM
what about off-white then? or lime green?

Comdot
August 19th, 2008, 06:28 PM
They should just give them a good jet wash. Have they even been cleaned since they were built? You can see the difference a good clean makes to stone buildings in London, so I would have thought the same would go with concrete?

you can clean concrete. i don't know about this concrete though, it's textured concrete. i watched manchester's second tallest commercial building have its concrete cleaned, then painted. some people thought it would be sacrilege, then when it was done the whole city thought "doh, why didnt this get done donkeys years ago".

from this
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/164CityTower_pic8.jpg

to this
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/164CityTower_pic46.jpg

via this
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/164CityTower_pic48.jpg

GazKinz
August 20th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Call me weird if you will, but I actually prefered the City Tower pre-reclad. The Barbican is awesome, and should not be painted.

JamesC
August 20th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Call me weird if you will, but I actually prefered the City Tower pre-reclad. The Barbican is awesome, and should not be painted.
You are correct, you are weird. That reclad is the best the city tower has had in a long time, it really needed doing. The side of the tower still looks kind of crappy though.

BorderBoy
August 20th, 2008, 12:41 AM
They're listed, they wont go. VERY sadly. They should be painted white.

Unbe*******lievable!

Really if you can't see why the Barbican should NOT be painted white, glazed or demolished then you should give this forum a miss.

BorderBoy
August 20th, 2008, 12:45 AM
"If you start to sneer and feel like shite (barbican) it probably needs some work" ...

If you start to sneer and feel like shite it's probably because you come from the 'New Worldie' and are a clueless idiot.

Comdot
August 20th, 2008, 01:43 AM
Unbe*******lievable!

Really if you can't see why the Barbican should NOT be painted white, glazed or demolished then you should give this forum a miss.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3126946.stm

wearethefuture
August 20th, 2008, 03:48 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3126946.stm

'2. BT Communications Tower' + '4. Centre Point Tower' lol, with Barbican being top, what a crap poll!

potto
August 20th, 2008, 12:47 PM
and the millenium dome too, the only signature that Canary Wharf has and the worlds most successful arena! Doh

The Sage
August 20th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Note that survey was carried out by "Grey London". Hmmm...

That City Tower clean made a huge improvement. Unfortunately this makes me fear for a lot of the sparkling white stone new builds round here which currently look great - how long with they take to dull similarly? Pollution is a terrible thing...

fitz44
August 23rd, 2008, 07:00 PM
I just can't make my mind up about this one - sometimes it looks like a grey lump, but today it looked great. Get the right light conditions and you have a very slick and classy bit of work.
City Point reflected ghostly in the cladding;

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN869.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN864.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN860.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN867.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN862.jpg

mulattokid
August 24th, 2008, 12:50 PM
I have to say its really exiting to wake up and see Fitz44 has posted on multiple u/c threads....you know you are in for a treat...many many thanks :)

fitz44
August 24th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Very kind of you MK - a pleasure!

Snowy
August 26th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Personally I'd leave the Barbican as it is, but one concrete relic from the 70s that did benefit from a lick of (cream) paint was the Brunswick Centre, it looks absolutely gorgeous now.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/527582234_1f2566b92c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/338803256_81955fd9cb.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/887797944_9d9511c2f3.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2649852565_71c12d1ce0.jpg?v=0


Before:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/111876402_9a3fb3b1f0.jpg?v=0


Imagine the Isokon Building unpainted, it would look horrible.........but crisp and white, it looks gorgeous. Yes, it's from an earlier period, but essentially it's a concrete modernist building.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/1486145786_b095b151ba.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/43/81060923_f46b368a7e.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/1251666494_8135a68b1f.jpg?v=0


I'm not saying that we should paint the Barbican (I quite like the unpainted concrete myself), but people should not dismiss the idea entirely, as though it is laughable. Concrete and paint can work.

Bena Gyerek
August 26th, 2008, 11:22 PM
they should commission some artists to repaint the southbank centre

potto
August 27th, 2008, 02:06 PM
those buildings were always meant to be painted. I think there were some initial plans for different cladding styles at the Baribian but in the end the bare concrete highly texturised (by hand - imagine the scale of work!) was chosen by the architects.

mulattokid
August 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM
Trellick tower has a similar finish. I think a special machine was used to texture the bare concrete.

potto
August 27th, 2008, 02:57 PM
yeah sorry i meant hand tool, still an impressive amount of work if you wander around the site and sense the scale of it all

gazzab1990
August 28th, 2008, 06:00 PM
What sort of texture is it? I saw the Trellick Tower whilst at Notting Hill carnival on Sunday, I love it, my sister couldn't believe how ugly it was :) but I think it looked fine just as it was. I havent seen the Barbican up close since I was about 10 (8 years ago) so I'm not sure if I'd feel the same as I do about Trellick.

Do they just paint concrete or do they use a coloured render of some sort?

Downfallen
September 13th, 2008, 02:09 PM
I had completely overlooked this project.
Its in a cramped location...and right now doesnt look all that....But I think its going to look pretty special when its done.
Huge floor space inside , and large terraces too...I like it
Here's one from the top

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/291/complete228ox8.jpg

TomD'07
September 13th, 2008, 07:51 PM
nice view, and love those aircraft lights on Broadgate tower. Swiss Re looking a little squat there though!

mulattokid
September 15th, 2008, 11:19 AM
Fantastic D!

Downfallen
September 17th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Few more from the site...
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7038/rm288ep9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4071/rmhd728uu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7222/rmhd528mf9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6764/rm287ai4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8479/rm284mh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mulattokid
September 17th, 2008, 11:26 AM
Fab as usual!

Whats the floor count re office space vs plant space?

Downfallen
September 17th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Whats the floor count re office space vs plant space?
As far as I know...1 Plant Level above ground.
There are three underground levels...not sure exactly what they will be utilised for
Floor space here is massive...

mulattokid
September 17th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Cheers :)

Trances
September 17th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Whats that green space in one of the photos ?

r-g-b
September 17th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Its a cricket pitch.

potto
September 17th, 2008, 06:44 PM
it is actually the grounds of the Royal Artillery Company and not open to the public.

bizarre that EH shortened the Old Street Tower because of it impacting the views of the Royal Artillery Company building

rickster2k
September 17th, 2008, 10:08 PM
I love that last pic. I actually think the cladding on this is top notch.

chest
September 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM
fantastic pics Downfallen - there is a bleak solitude to them - a kind of empty stillness, they remind me of Edward Hopper paintings.

milkymilky
September 17th, 2008, 10:27 PM
5th pic shows what a behemoth this is!

wipasnapper
September 18th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Excellent photos. You can see my office on the second photo!

jimbo
September 20th, 2008, 07:12 PM
ooooh, he's a naughty boy isn't he. For BL's sake, I really hope Macquarie decide to take Ropemaker. It's been a tad quiet re: news on that front. Have played cricket and eaten at the Honorable Artillery - wonderful space. The marquees they put up for Xmas do's play havoc with the outfield.

DarJoLe
September 23rd, 2008, 12:24 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2879725675_cba9948732_b.jpg

DarJoLe
September 23rd, 2008, 12:26 AM
What's the grey mini-tall between Moorhouse and Citypoint with the huge roofplant? Looks like it's ripe for redevelopment.

mulattokid
September 23rd, 2008, 11:09 AM
^^^ Its on silk Street, but not sure

Edti: there you go son. Looked it up as I actually likethis building
http://i33.tinypic.com/ehzsbl.jpg

milton & Shire...1 Silk Street

DarJoLe
September 23rd, 2008, 11:15 AM
Cool. I have never noticed it until now.

mulattokid
September 23rd, 2008, 11:20 AM
Funnily enough I only noticed it on the render for the proposed Moorhouse. It looked impressive!

Zedferret
September 25th, 2008, 12:44 PM
Excellent Webcam angle. Could a mod put it on the webcam page?

http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/ropemakers/camputer96.jpg

http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/ropemakers/camputer96.jpg

another from the roof....

http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/ropemakers/camputer71.jpg

http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/ropemakers/camputer71.jpg

fitz44
September 27th, 2008, 10:12 PM
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=10399

The multi-purpose development aims high
British Land held a topping out ceremony yesterday for its most sustainable development yet, Ropemaker in London's EC2. The ceremony marked the development's success in achieving the landmark step on time and on budget.

Designed by Arup Associates the 586,000 sq ft building will provide office and retail space, including two trading floors of 42,500 sq ft (4,000m2) and roof gardens covering 57,000 sq ft aimed at helping local bio-diversity.

The 20 storey office development, located near to Moorgate tube station, is set to achieve 15% lower carbon emissions than are set out in the Building Regulations and is also on target for an ‘Excellent’ BREEAM rating.

Paul Burgess, Head of London Leasing at British Land, said: “We are pleased to have reached this important milestone on time and on budget. With Ropemaker we will be delivering our most sustainable development yet in the City. Its ability to help occupiers reduce both operational costs and their environmental impact is combined with a great range of floorplates and a high level of specification to meet operational needs as well. The roof terrace gardens are of a scale and quality unparalled in the City and are a wonderful feature for occupiers”.

Defined by British Land as “an attractive and sustainable building for occupiers, meeting their needs today and tomorrow”, Ropemaker will enable occupiers to reduce energy and water use, cut down waste, decrease carbon emissions and lower associated costs. All energy used for heating water and space will come from renewable sources, generating enough power to run 7,000 washing machine cycles.

Following the sustainable credentials of Ropemaker and as a legacy of the event, British Land, working with the Woodland Trust, has pledged to fund the planting and life-long maintenance of 1,500 trees at The Hucking Estate near Hollingbourne in Kent, the equivalent of five trees for every guest attending the event.

Completion is scheduled for mid 2009 and Jones Lang LaSalle and CB Richard Ellis are the joint letting agents for the premises.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/10399_1_rm1big.jpg

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dirtydog
September 28th, 2008, 09:04 AM
It looks a lot lighter and brighter in those renders than it does in actual shots from the webcams, where the cladding seems rather dark in comparison. But we'll see when it's done.

I don't like this building but for the sake of BL's other project 122LH, I am glad this is so far on budget and on schedule, and I wish them luck with finding tenants for it.

jimbo
September 28th, 2008, 06:17 PM
interesting on the sustainability front, but irrespective of that fact, BL need a tenant.

GazKinz
September 29th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Hiding behind Citipoint

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2891567819_007a475909_b.jpg

capslock
October 7th, 2008, 02:52 PM
It looks a lot lighter and brighter in those renders than it does in actual shots from the webcams, where the cladding seems rather dark in comparison. But we'll see when it's done.

I don't like this building but for the sake of BL's other project 122LH, I am glad this is so far on budget and on schedule, and I wish them luck with finding tenants for it.

I'm sorry to say that up close, I think that the cladding on this is truly awful. It's a shame because the layering of different treatments is quite complex and no doubt took a long time to develop, but you only really read the layering it up close. At anything more that 50m it just looks like really dark, blue-ish 60s cladding with none of the shimmering lightness sugessted by those renders. Not only that but the building is really sucking the light out of the surrounding streets - although the weather recently hasn't helped, let's face it London's not exactly got a Mediterranean climate so it'll be th case for 8 months a year at least.

Not one of the worst horrors to be built in the city by any stretch, (I reserve the worst of my ire for Broadgate Tower) but I'm a bit disappointed so far.

potto
October 7th, 2008, 02:56 PM
I agree it swamps the surrounding streets, certainly even more with the up-and-coming the heron tower. The surrounding streets need to be turned into shared space ASAP to save this area.

london lad
October 14th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Eg reports that Bloomberg has this on its shortlist for a new HQ. Theres also been interest from a number of other parties for space here.

Madman
October 15th, 2008, 03:02 PM
^ now that is good news... (please god let someone with no architectural taste let this and get BL cracking on with 122L)

Newcastle Guy
October 15th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Fingers very much crossed!

fitz44
October 25th, 2008, 05:34 PM
It's a shame about the proportions because this is a great facade - would have made an outstanding tower;

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/23-10-0ct040.jpg

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delores
October 25th, 2008, 10:25 PM
nice pictures...this building is starting to look quiet good from some angles.

golddex
October 25th, 2008, 10:28 PM
I agree, has turned out better than I thought it would. Bit close to Citypoint and hence less sunlight but hey, not bad all the same.

gazzab1990
October 26th, 2008, 04:05 AM
Doesn't having transluscent louvres sort of defeat th object?

Looking better for them though, helps break up the repetitive cladding

milkymilky
October 26th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Great photos fitz. Loving all those different textures! Pity the colouring is quite dark, but it's a very "london" building.

fitz44
October 26th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Great photos fitz. Loving all those different textures! Pity the colouring is quite dark, but it's a very "london" building.

Thanks mm, if nothing else it's a great building to photograph - with all the different angles and reflections.

london lad
October 26th, 2008, 07:07 PM
British Land lassoes Bank of Tokyo for Ropemaker

24.10.08

By Deirdre Hipwell
Propertyweek
First letting at mammoth scheme provides ray of rising sun for City market

British Land has snared its first tenant at its mammoth Ropemaker scheme in the City of London – a coup given the turbulent market.

Bank of Tokyo is thought to have placed around 170,000 sq ft of office space at the scheme, which is next to City Point, under offer on Tuesday.

No details have been disclosed but it is thought to have agreed a 15- year term at around £50/sq ft. It is also thought that British Land, as part of the deal, might take back some space from Bank of Tokyo at 6 Broadgate, where the bank’s global securities and investment banking business, Mitsubishi UFJ Securities International, is located on a lease that expires in 2013.

The letting would cheer British Land. At the topping-out ceremony of Ropemaker, which has four roof gardens, outgoing chief executive Stephen Hester said it was completing an ‘excellent building at the worst possible time in the market’ and was focused on letting the building.

He said last week Ropemaker ‘will not be as profitable as we hoped’.

It is thought that British Land hoped to complete the scheme in a rising market but, given the rapid decline in take-up during the third quarter, it will be a significant and pragmatic letting for British Land, which has an extensive City portfolio.

Bank of Tokyo’s decision means that Australian bank Macquarie, which favoured the Ropemaker site for its 300,000 sq ft London headquarters before it put its search on hold in August last year, may have to assess its options for also taking space at the scheme. Ropemaker is large enough to accommodate both banks.

The completion of the deal will bring relief for the City, where so far this year there has been a 41% decline in take-up, compared with this time last year, Jones Lang LaSalle’s Central London Market report revealed last week.

The City market is still unsettled and it emerged this week that law firm Pinsent Mason has put on hold its search for a 190,000 sq ft London base until market conditions have calmed. It still ultimately plans to consolidate its two offices into one.

CB Richard Ellis and Jones Lang Lasalle are the joint letting agents on Ropemaker; Knight Frank advises Bank of Tokyo; Savills advises Pinsent Mason. All parties declined to comment.

Zedferret
October 26th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Great news for 122L!:)

Newcastle Guy
October 26th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Sweet!:cheers: How much of the building have they taken? About 20%?

PFarrey
October 27th, 2008, 09:43 AM
^^ If they have taken 170,000 sq ft then its a third of the building as its 500,000 sq ft overall. Very good news indeed.

Newcastle Guy
October 27th, 2008, 02:29 PM
I thought it was bigger than that! That's great!

PFarrey
October 27th, 2008, 02:52 PM
According to British Land's website its 593,000 sq ft. So slightly less than a third (30%) is let.

jimbo
October 27th, 2008, 09:32 PM
ach, top trumps. Thank heavens for that happening......barren times have not been good, so any sniff of good news for BL's portfolio is great. With steel pricing now falling significantly I wonder if the gears are turning in BL's mind re: Leadenhall, but can't see a sudden about turn and commencement of construction so quickly after the delay was announced.

gothicform
October 29th, 2008, 07:03 PM
yeah there's a difference between gross floor area and net floor area and all that. basically if mcquarie sign up to then the building will be filled leaving british land with a headache of no new available space in the city in landmark buildings.

Luke
October 29th, 2008, 08:22 PM
Well, they still have a big chunk of Broadgate Tower to fill.

Newcastle Guy
October 30th, 2008, 12:37 AM
Yes let's hope Macquarie take the rest, then that leaves around 50% of BG Tower to fill and they're will be out of 'landmark' space. However 50% of Broadgate Tower may not be enoguh to meet some clients needs... I wonder where they could go... hmm...

So do we think Macquarie will sign?

ismail
October 30th, 2008, 02:21 AM
I think they will,

And Broadgate 70% let, the 30% remaining will not be big enough for any kind of major letting, and so once Ropemaker is full BL will have NO major office space to let in the city

london lad
November 17th, 2008, 04:52 PM
NOMURA, the Japanese bank, has scrapped plans to house its 3,600 staff, including 2,000 from Lehman Brothers, in Canary Wharf in favour of a move to the City of London. Two rival City-based sites are currently being eyed, CityA.M can reveal.

The first is Watermark Place, the new joint venture between UBS and Oxford Properties on Upper Thames Street. The second, British Land’s Ropemaker tower, is located near Moorgate tube station, and is one of the few London developments to have been topped out on schedule.

Newcastle Guy
November 17th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Nice, I hope to god they go for Ropemaker, that could help Leadenhall start early.

twilight_2008
November 17th, 2008, 08:33 PM
I hope they go for this too. Would that definitely mean that the Leadenhall Building would be full speed ahead?

Bolted
November 20th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Mutterings in the ES that Tokyo Bank are into 1/3 of this (hideous at street level) lump.

capslock
November 20th, 2008, 02:26 PM
I hope they go for this too. Would that definitely mean that the Leadenhall Building would be full speed ahead?

No. BL will still want to drill their contractors and key package subbie sto the floor while the market's hungry. But it would help it happen sooner I'd say.

dom
November 20th, 2008, 11:25 PM
Nomura will take Ropemaker as it is closer to their current hq at St Martin le Grand which they are unlikely to move from as being the former headquarters of the Post Office it is one of the most prestigious buildings in the City of London. And they spent a fortune cleaning it up a few years ago.

I imagine Nomura will keep St Martin le Grand as their head office and command centre and shunt the back office staff into Ropemaker.

Also, Japanese companies like to cluster.

Another point is that most ex-pat Japanese live in Acton which is on the Central line - meaning this office is far more handy for them than Watermark Place.

Interestingly this will mean Ropemaker is full, leaving Macquarie and Bloomberg still looking for office space.... hopefully one of them will plump for 122 Leadenhall.

GazKinz
December 3rd, 2008, 12:40 AM
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GazKinz
December 3rd, 2008, 01:17 AM
Forgot about these

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc360/londonfire/Picture128_656ahdr3.jpg

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc360/londonfire/Picture128_659aHDr3.jpg

NothingBetterToDo
December 3rd, 2008, 01:18 AM
Well, at least it looks good in in Black & White.

Gherkin
December 3rd, 2008, 01:46 AM
No it doesn't. It looks too fat and too much like concrete - especially with those pertruding triangular elements.

jimbo
December 4th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Nomura will take Ropemaker as it is closer to their current hq at St Martin le Grand which they are unlikely to move from as being the former headquarters of the Post Office it is one of the most prestigious buildings in the City of London. And they spent a fortune cleaning it up a few years ago.

I imagine Nomura will keep St Martin le Grand as their head office and command centre and shunt the back office staff into Ropemaker.

Also, Japanese companies like to cluster.

Another point is that most ex-pat Japanese live in Acton which is on the Central line - meaning this office is far more handy for them than Watermark Place.

Interestingly this will mean Ropemaker is full, leaving Macquarie and Bloomberg still looking for office space.... hopefully one of them will plump for 122 Leadenhall.

^^good photos gazkinz.

re: above.......Nomura to shed 1000 jobs, albeit a lot of those could be from the equities and investment banking bits they bought from Lehman.

Ropemaker really is hidden behind Citypoint isn't it.

rickster2k
December 4th, 2008, 09:59 PM
I actually like this. It may be quite short and bulky but the cladding looks top notch and that front angle with Citypoint to the left shows it in a pretty good light.