mine will not open for some reason....has the model been updated?

Yup both the shard and the monument are up there and it looks great. :)

Spot the top of the shard :)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5451120804_8e655a129d_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5450711159_82fd7dbf68_b.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/brenz89/2011/pano1.jpg

I was at Guys Hospital today. I went to the observation deck on the top floor of the tower and took a pic of the Shard from there. Well the middle bit at least. :lol:

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2385.jpg

Great vantage point, nice to see the NHS is reducing its costs through the lack of window cleaning.

Great vantage point, nice to see the NHS is reducing its costs through the lack of window cleaning.

:banana::banana::lol:

More pics to upload tomorrow.

Got a new camera... taken a few days ago:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5452136096_02d5567556_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5452142894_a01e1d10ce_z.jpg

Quick snap from today.

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n464/freddycoasterman/photo.jpg

That is a brilliant shot from Guys. I remember last summer when I went there looking down at the steel floors being constructed and look at it now :lol:.

A second bite at the cherry this week... with more to be found in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard/)

From Queen Elizabeth Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0102.jpg

On Crucifix Lane

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0107.jpg

St Thomas Street/Snowsfields

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0124.jpg

Backpack glazing progress

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0137.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0153.jpg

with this intriguing structure that has appeared at the far eastern end of the site

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0142.jpg

Cantideck on St Thomas Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0151.jpg

and the SE corner on St Thomas Street, with an eastern glazing 'wing' peeking round

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0156.jpg

From Great Maze Pond, directly south of the site

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0177.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0167.jpg

Looking east down St Thomas Street from the pedestrian bridge

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0181.jpg

NW corner looking straight up from the taxi rank at London Bridge Station

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0195.jpg

Crane silhouette from Tooley Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0208.jpg

I haven't been following this now for a week or two - can anyone tell me whether the blue hoardings gone up at all since they were installed?

:eek:

Thanks for updates, latest paint drawing coming 2morrow!

I haven't been following this now for a week or two - can anyone tell me whether the blue hoardings gone up at all since they were installed?

yes they jump around two times a week they are pouring the third floor this week

I haven't been following this now for a week or two - can anyone tell me whether the blue hoardings gone up at all since they were installed?

Yes they have

Thanks for the photos, Rob. Plenty to examine closely.

Meanwhile, I do understand depth of field, but sometimes I do still think we have a little too much street furniture in this country...

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110216_0102.jpg

Meanwhile, I do understand depth of field, but sometimes I do still think we have a little too much street furniture in this country...

I agree. And there's less in that scene than there used to be. The railings that ran down the middle of Tower Bridge Road were removed about a year ago, about the same time they took them out from London Bridge (and most other of London's bridges that had them, I think).

Alternatives to no streetlamps?

More pics from Tuesday.

From Borough High Street. Just before I went into Guys tower.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2366.jpg

From just outside it. Dont look up Lol. :nuts:

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2371.jpg

Another one from Guys Hospital.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2383.jpg

One more from Guys. At least I can say I have been in the tallest hospital building in the world. This pic is similar to the first one I posted last night but I want to share it.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2387.jpg

Great pics NorwichJewels...but i have some news!!!!!!!!!!!:banana::banana::banana:

They have redeveloped the Shard site, i was bored after doing some sketchup when i randomly typed shard into google and!!!!!!!
Click on the link! Be amazed!
http://www.the-shard.com/
(haven't seen it yet because i wanted to be first to tell the news!)
Bad news is, if you have been print-screening the cameras everday to see cams 64 and 81 together, well tough luck because it's changed :(!
Why didn't i do it on normal camera links, now my slideshow is ruined, been doing it since the 9th of April, double:(:(

How do you get up the top of Guy's Hospital?

How do you get up the top of Guy's Hospital?

I did ask beforehand and you can take pics from the 30th floor observatory. A lot of students use it. Go into the main entrance, turn left into the tower wing then take the lift to the 30th floor. I did have a quick peek around some corridors on the 20th floor but obviously not into the wards. Lol.

The top floors are used by a lot of students for dentist studies. There is a hotel restaurant on the top. I asked if I was allowed in an he said I could have a quick look out of the window. Anyone can take pics from the 30th floor observatory.

I love this building more than I love pizza, it makes me giddy.

^^ You love Guys hospital?!

Ooh yeah...lol. Guys is my guy! Nah, Shard is amazing. I have a weird thing for pyramids, and I love London. Perfect match! Been following this building since Reno Piano first applied for application. I found his email address from his site back in 2003 and sent him an email saying how much I loved it and he emailed me back saying thankyou!

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/switch_it_on/IMG02508.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/switch_it_on/IMG02510.jpg

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Guys tower looks like a stump compared to the Shard.

This is going to look amazing. I can't wait to see the cladding finally clear guys from my balcony view. Been waiting two years now.

Well still got about 8 stories of glass to go:cheers:

(don't ask when my bedtime is)

Sorry for double post, but here's the image i promised everyone!
In one week the backpack glass has shot up!
(see my flickr for older drawings)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5455218075_7ec1ee0e74.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5455218075/)
And can anyone tell me what the situation is with the backpack level 17, because it looks like a lot of concrete blocks on top, as shown in NorwichJewel's photos?
Why are they not putting the complete steel on?
Are the floor plans different on that level?
Have they not had a steel delivery for a long time, because of the concrete floors?

And can anyone tell me what the situation is with the backpack level 17, because it looks like a lot of concrete blocks on top, as shown in NorwichJewel's photos?
Why are they not putting the complete steel on?
Are the floor plans different on that level?
Have they not had a steel delivery for a long time, because of the concrete floors?

Above level 17 is mechanical services. It will be necessary to install all of this plant before the steelwork encases it. This may be another month or so.

Apologies for the delay...

Not sure if this has been posted before.

View from the top of the shard.

http://www.willpearson.co.uk/inprogress/shard/dusk-v1/

website does not work for me ^^^^

hmmm.. seems to have been blocked now, authorization wasn't required earlier.

Pretty spectacular rotatable 360 degree panorama from the top of the shard.

Will see what I can do.
a.

Not sure if this has been posted before.

View from the top of the shard.

http://www.willpearson.co.uk/inprogress/shard/dusk-v1/

Will has previously posted on this thread himself.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=67998577&highlight=willpearson#post67998577

'inprogress' in the URL is probably a bit of a clue. Respect his copyrights and if we're lucky maybe we'll get to see something when it's finished. ;)

How do you get up the top of Guy's Hospital?

Talking to much when your sick then the doctors place you there.:)

This hospital should be encased in glass as buildings around it

During the Olympics next year there will be the five rings displayed on the building and each floor will be lit up when we win a gold medal.

I went out on my bike at lunch time looking for this shot and I think I found it :-)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5455548119_b998de63b3_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5455548119/)
Shard in the mist (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5455548119/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr

Rotherhithe, London SE16

During the Olympics next year there will be the five rings displayed on the building and each floor will be lit up when we win a gold medal.

really? that sounds great - do you have any more info?

really? that sounds great - do you have any more info?

There is a story related to this in today's Standard

Symbolic rings around capital to signal Games are on the way
Matthew Beard, Sports News Correspondent
18 Feb 2011


Away from the Stratford building site, there is scant visible evidence around London that in less than 18 months the Olympics will be here.

The few exceptions are the BT Tower's electronic countdown display, a London Transport ticketing poster campaign and the occasional flash of an Olympic logo on a taxi.

But next month the volume will be pumped up with the first of a series of spectaculars.

Giant Olympic rings will be suspended from Tower Bridge and will also eventually adorn the London Eye and St Pancras station, terminus for the Olympic Park "Javelin" shuttle service. London's tallest building, the Shard of Glass, will also be crowned with the rings and there are plans for one of its 72 storeys to light up each time the home nation wins a medal.On March 15, to mark 500 days to the Games and the start of ticket sales, a giant countdown clock will be installed in Trafalgar Square, courtesy of Olympic timekeeper Omega. And on New Year's Eve a Games-themed firework display will herald the start of Olympic year.

Next spring will see the "dressing" of the capital's main roads, airports and railway stations. Early drafts of the colour scheme were rejected by Mayor Boris Johnson who demanded patriotic red, white and blue instead of what he called "vomit and vermillion".

Public services are being squeezed, but next summer will offer a window on the world like no other. There will be £30million in the Olympic budget to give streets a facelift, while the Mayor has offered each borough £50,000 spruce-up grants.

He also wants Seb Coe's Games organising committee to buck tradition and locate the Olympic cauldron not on the roof of the main stadium but atop the neighbouring Orbit Tower, Anish Kapoor's 115-metre structure.

Meanwhile, consumer champion Which? has attacked as "outrageous and discriminatory" the monopoly deal which dictates that Olympic tickets can only be bought using the official payment card, Visa.

The Office of Fair Trading and the European Commission are looking at the arrangement.

double post.

I went out on my bike at lunch time looking for this shot and I think I found it :-)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5455548119_6919e7689b_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5455548119/)
Shard in the mist (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5455548119/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr

Rotherhithe, London SE16

Wow amazing photo
looks as if the Thames turned into pack ice

great photo indeed!

There is a story related to this in today's Standard

Symbolic rings around capital to signal Games are on the way
Matthew Beard, Sports News Correspondent
18 Feb 2011


But next month the volume will be pumped up with the first of a series of spectaculars.

Giant Olympic rings will be suspended from Tower Bridge and will also eventually adorn the London Eye and St Pancras station, terminus for the Olympic Park "Javelin" shuttle service. London's tallest building, the Shard of Glass, will also be crowned with the rings and there are plans for one of its 72 storeys to light up each time the home nation wins a medal.t.

This is very exiting :)

Cheers for posting the link

There's another heron tower though.

I have access to some photos from the top of the shard by night...the city looks so small!

I have permission to post these amazing night shots of the city from the top of the Shard! Some are a little blurry :S

The city

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5456876906_fd4b2c9ea7_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5456267497_4342878593_b.jpg

WOW!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5456266755_532672d7df_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5456875138_dbaf15814e_b.jpg

London Bridge!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5217/5456265299_b14232c833_b.jpg

St Pauls!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5456878106_e38a857812_b.jpg

Lower down

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5456877836_e96bca9d86_b.jpg

I know it's not the top but this is still one of my favourites!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5171/5456880764_751346e40b_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5456879012_2225596091_b.jpg

WOAH!

Those Victorians were brilliant sticking all the railway lines above ground. It really should be done more these days, perfect dual use of space.

And those photos are fantastic.

That is one intricate and detailed Hornby train set! :|

Brilliant photos.

Base of Shard on Tuesday.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2372.jpg

Shard from a distance.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/benny1982/DSCN2360.jpg

What a city, damn awesome

The thought of the Shard being lit gold during the Olympics is awesome!!! :| :D:D:D

I can imagine it being akin to the Eiffel tower when it sparkles. It will really endear even more people to the building and new developments as a whole.

good information and stuff about the Shard here from the fiancial times, Just posted today.

Link!!! (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5919c75a-3a27-11e0-a441-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1ELw0UpZ5)

great article! thanks for posting

Does anyone know when the guys will get recladed? it doesnt look match with the shard

Was in Southwark taaannnn today? So took some pics on my Galaxy S http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5097/5456651605_a5692b9f11_b.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/5456654607_56d5dddc34_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5176/5457254884_2df94d904d_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5456640301_88f64355e3_b.jpg

Connection of the two cores..
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5457242108_7662185f28_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5456632555_8498e91c34_b.jpg

London Bridge!


Strangely enough London Bridge is the bridge next to Shard London Bridge.

no plan to reclad the guys?

it may get a clean if you are lucky.

@Medenine, I like the evocative shots, similar feel to Cybertects b&w shot

reminds me of that BBC sci fi series The Tripods for some reason.

Strangely enough London Bridge is the bridge next to Shard London Bridge.

Stop complaining...I thought you'd be more interested in the photos. Anyway...correction *Tower bridge*

it may get a clean if you are lucky.

@Medenine, I like the evocative shots, similar feel to Cybertects b&w shot

reminds me of that BBC sci fi series The Tripods for some reason.

interesting thoughts..
thanks!

Here are some night shots..
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5176/5457192262_caa3e22be0_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5456584529_95229219bf_b.jpg

(crap) pic of Southwark Cathedral but with God's approval
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5457482404_b42ca0cc4e_b.jpg

A few photos taken during a very long lunch break :cheers:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5456900073_7ba7f1e090_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5456900043_42b1bf7268_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5011/5456899617_6c1020a61c_z.jpg

Thanks 4 the picture updates and info everyone, i am very grateful because no i can paint the lobby levels for my next update!:)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/neil-tweedie/8333703/Standing-on-top-of-the-new-Tower-of-London.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/neil-tweedie/8333703/Standing-on-top-of-the-new-Tower-of-London.html

“Just the ladder and we’re at the top,” says the PR. “Have you seen the fox?” The chap at the hole shakes his head. Apparently, a fox has managed to climb its way to here, the 72nd floor, surely a first in vulpine exploration.

Is that you, Will? :D

The Place: http://www.theplacelondon.com/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5457668253_6fe2242a08_o.jpg

thankoooo ^^

http://i51.tinypic.com/z8q6s.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2uhn1qx.jpg
Millenium Bridge.

Nice find gegloma01. There are some interesting renders of the bottom of shard and LB station in the gallery section (couldn't copy them)

shard website has been redesigned too....some nice new photos on there
http://www.the-shard.com/shard

Welcome LDN and london_marcus, i beat you to it a few pages back.
Thank you for the new cameras, now i can make a full timelape video of the gem!:)

I feel like a loser but ive been collecting webcam pictures most days since the ground breaking....nearly crashed my computer going through them haha

The Place: http://www.theplacelondon.com/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5457668253_6fe2242a08_o.jpg

Is there any thread for this exciting building ? :)
I've been searching for ages .. :banana:

I feel like a loser but ive been collecting webcam pictures most days since the ground breaking....nearly crashed my computer going through them haha

Nice, I did that aswel but I stopped a few months ago. I posted some great timelapses here. Hopefully you will do the same.

This development is part of the "Londond Bridge Quarter".

London Bridge Quarter consists of the "Shard London Bridge" and "The Place", formerly known as New London Bridge House or The Gem: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=296278&highlight=london+bridge+quarter.

see interactive site plan: http://www.londonbridgequarter.com/about/interactive-site-plan

And what about The Three Spires, are they part of London Bridge Redevlopment too?

In the FT too:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5919c75a-3a27-11e0-a441-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1EQ7Dest8
Nice time lapse in there.

Crazy thing is that theplacelondon pictured above has half the floor area despite being only 17 floors. Must be much more profitable.
Although they will not be able to get the supposed £6,000 a square foot (as One Hyde Park got) for apartments that the Shard is hoping to get. Although I doubt they will get it, Borough Market hardly compares to Harrods as your local corner shop!

And what about The Three Spires, are they part of London Bridge Redevlopment too?

No, they are a separate scheme!

Is there any thread for this exciting building ? :)
I've been searching for ages .. :banana:

Not searching long enough to stop you going to other threads randomly and complaining about the speed of construction FFS!!! Jesus! Troll!

Crazy thing is that theplacelondon pictured above has half the floor area despite being only 17 floors. Must be much more profitable.
Although they will not be able to get the supposed £6,000 a square foot (as One Hyde Park got) for apartments that the Shard is hoping to get. Although I doubt they will get it, Borough Market hardly compares to Harrods as your local corner shop!

I prefer shopping at Borough Market. And you can walk to the City in five or ten minutes from the Shard.

Koobideh why do you think that?

Not searching long enough to stop you going to other threads randomly and complaining about the speed of construction FFS!!! Jesus! Troll!

:ohno: you are the one :-)

^^ Mulattokid’s rite, you defiantly have a touch of ‘troll’ about you JFK. And stop going around threads complaining about the speed of construction. Buildings don’t go up overnight buddy.

this forum is for expressing our opinions ...
im not your buddy so far....
dont get into a clash ...just sit tight and watch buildings rising, read, type ( but do not respond to every opinion which is different from yours )

and its a shame to defend an anonymous person you do not know....such people could be considered as assmunchers by the others bro

It can take a couple of years to build a skyscraper even in this day and age.

they built ESB in 420 days in early 30ies with a technology they had

-anyways ...whats the point of this stupid conversation ...it leads to nowhere..

^^^ You started this 'stupid' conversation and then you insult Norwichjewels that responds appropriately to you???


and its a shame to defend an anonymous person you do not know....such people could be considered as assmunchers by the others bro

More assumptions? He and me have known each other for about a year! Where as you just arrive and turn the site into some gameshow chatline :)

I didnt respond to his post.
No more arguments.
Enjoy the lifetime :) eat popcorn and stay calm :)
Everythings fine :) let's get back to the topic :)

this forum is for expressing our opinions ...
im not your buddy so far....
dont get into a clash ...just sit tight and watch buildings rising, read, type ( but do not respond to every opinion which is different from yours )

and its a shame to defend an anonymous person you do not know....such people could be considered as assmunchers by the others bro

What's wrong with being considered an assmuncher [sic]

We have all been spoiled by the Shard's quick construction on the core:ohno:
And in the 1930s they didn't care about health and saftey:bash:, so now construction is slower!:)

Working on a wet slippery crane.

http://i55.tinypic.com/16m3ss5.jpg

Informative, thanks :)

Looks like this crane has climbed to it's max height. No more sections to go in.

Yes we have so many H&S rules that makes building slower but the building work takes time. An apartment in Norwich which is only 8 stories has just been finished and building began 3 years ago. It can depend on the man power.

The Shard still has a year or so to go until completion.

Yep. Like a parent says to the moaning children in the background " We get there when we get there!"

I for one am LOVING this moment in time and I don't mind how long it takes to go up. I lurked from 2003 and joined in 2005. We all got exited about the 21 Storey Tabard Sq or Ability place. Buildings the height of The Shard were just fantasy. I am sure those around at the time will remember.

Its like a lifetime has past: Two super high towers going up in London...and its just the beginning. You wont recognise this city in another 10 - 20 years

Working on a wet slippery crane.

http://i55.tinypic.com/16m3ss5.jpg

That is the climbing frame coming off , tc5 will not be getting climbed any higher now as was previously planned .. it will be getting taken down in maybe a month or so's time now instead.:ohno::ohno::ohno:

That is the climbing frame coming off , tc5 will not be getting climbed any higher now as was previously planned .. it will be getting taken down in maybe a month or so's time now instead.:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Surely the climbing frame is also used for shrinking as well, though?

Good things come to those who wait and I shall be fascinated when the Shard of glass is finally built.

http://i55.tinypic.com/aai2xx.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/a3lgg3.jpg

Taken from www.stephenwiltshire.co.uk

Surely the climbing frame is also used for shrinking as well, though?

Not if another crane can take it down, I.e, the core crane.

Wow, I've never seen 5-digit thread post counts, lol. Nice drawings, LTD!

Sad from that view it blocks the city cluster (the drawing).:bleep::spam1::moods:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5018/5452367865_767c43e4d7_b.jpg

Sorry if this is a repost

Good find ^^ Stephen Wiltshire is an absolute master at drawing landscapes and skylines. He is a true inspiration!

I went to Richmond Park today but knowing my luck it was too foggy to see any buildings.
I'm going one of the towers in CW in a couple of days so lets hope the weather is nice to me then, can't wait. I'll make a thread about it to share with you all :)

Also are the rest of the floors up to 72 all of concrete construction? thanks

I believe it is concrete up to level 69 then they build the observation deck and spire with steel

nice pics

Not searching long enough to stop you going to other threads randomly and complaining about the speed of construction FFS!!! Jesus! Troll!

Calm down, he was only asking! Miserable git.

Olympic Shard:

"Giant Olympic rings will be suspended from Tower Bridge and will also eventually adorn the London Eye and St Pancras station, terminus for the Olympic Park "Javelin" shuttle service. London's tallest building, the Shard of Glass, will also be crowned with the rings and there are plans for one of its 72 storeys to light up each time the home nation wins a medal."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-olympics/article-23924578-symbolic-rings-around-capital-to-signal-games-are-on-the-way.do

Epic.

God those Evening Standard comments really p**s me off. Do you think they ever have any fun in their lives?! For god sake, if they'd have had any positions of power in the past Britain would've been lucky to get past the stage of mudhuts!

Calm down, he was only asking! Miserable git.

Challenging Mulattokid- never a wise decision :lol:

Wonder what to do for my 200th post...:hm:
I know!:nocrook:

When is the spike getting added if anyone knows?

200th post!:banana::banana::llama::horse::uh::colgate::bowtie:;)

I thought the spike was part of the older design...if not I hope it doesn't get added :(

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5018/5452367865_767c43e4d7_b.jpg

Sorry if this is a repost

New desktop background in 5...4...3...

:)

Apologies if someone has already posted this - a sexy helicopter flypast of The Shard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=MbPAOGN1IBI

That video shows how amazing the glass will look when finished, 35 seconds in or so.

It has, but it doesn't matter, i don't mind watching it again

Wonder what to do for my 200th post...:hm:
I know!:nocrook:

When is the spike getting added if anyone knows?

200th post!:banana::banana::llama::horse::uh::colgate::bowtie:;)

till next year shard:)

Popping up from City Road Basin... The development on the left blocks a nice view of the Gerkin and Heron, which is a shame. A tower element to it is to come though...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5468796643_70c395d0db_b.jpg

Challenging Mulattokid- never a wise decision :lol: Especially if you are wrong ;)

Latest diagram:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5470108619_9a481d7df9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5470108619/)
What i'm not sure about is if they are going to stop cladding the backpack.

http://i55.tinypic.com/aai2xx.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/a3lgg3.jpg

Taken from www.stephenwiltshire.co.uk
this is the guy who just looks at things for two minutes then draws stuff from memory, isn't he?

this is the guy who just looks at things for two minutes then draws stuff from memory, isn't he?

Yep

Yep

And on Blue Peter way back

I love that guy, he is so incredible!
and he is one of us aswell, loves his buildings

The detail in the second picture is just god dam incredible!

Latest diagram:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5470108619_9a481d7df9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5470108619/)
What i'm not sure about is if they are going to stop cladding the backpack.


Even the cladding has competed only 1/3 of total ratio, it already looks so tall and huge.

Thanks for the diagram BTW :)

in a month...

http://www.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2011/KZFuag.gif (http://www.makeagif.com/KZFuag)

Backpack crane is gone and also one of the main TCs is gone, Interesting

Wow great one london_marcus! Epic progress for a month, the backpack is the main progress!

London_marcus, I'm buying you a pint!:cheers::2cents::drunk:

Never noticed it on my timelaspe, but i'm now know it went down between 17.1.2011 and 26.1.2011

Is that NEO Bankside I can see rising in the background?

yeah!

Only a few hours since london_marcus' pic, you have more cladding!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5470937125_d894782ccb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5470937125/)

I know this has been raised before but I am getting increasingly concerned that the cladding is not up to scratch. It just seems a bit dull and lifeless. Compare that picture above to the Freedom Tower for example :

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5466230913_41a4ccf1e9_o.jpg

I think the cladding is exactly the same, just that the Freedom Tower is reflecting blue skies and skyscrapers whilst the Shard is reflecting grey skies and Guys Tower.

I know this has been raised before but I am getting increasingly concerned that the cladding is not up to scratch. It just seems a bit dull and lifeless. Compare that picture above to the Freedom Tower for example :



Talk about being negative, you are not exactly comparing like for like.....


One is a low res web cam image on a dull rainy day, the other a high res image on a bright sunny day.

What planet are you on?

the cladding is stunning quality on the Shard, the miserable grey weather that seems to have hung about for months means a lot of pics posted lately are giving the wrong impression - photographs on any camera will come out dull and lifeless (especially from a grimmey web cam) in the current dreary light - mine have been terrible so i've not posted. No need to be 'concerened' Octoman - I've read several posts on the Freedom Tower threads they wish their cladding was as good as the Shards.

Compare it to something like this another one of chests brilliant photos, both sets of cladding are incredible to be fair, but the posts above me are quite right that comparing those two images above is a tad unfair to the shard

http://web.me.com/benveasey/IMG_1629.JPG

I have been concerned for some time that the weather in London is often less good than the weather in New York City.

I must admit to having a nagging concern about the cladding too. I agree the weather does not help but the glass seems to have a bluish tint to it. A friend (who is an arts and arctiecture fan - but not on this form) said he was dissapointed with it so far- I found myself having to defend it yet secretly fearing he may have had a point. Hope I am proved wrong when this is finished.

Bollocks. This has been a dull DULL feb. How flippant was that post by octoman..all because of a sunglint on the FTower,wow tut.. The cladding looks superb on the Shard and has been noted as such by many who have seen it in the flesh...whe the Sun does shine upon it

Typical.

I was at the beach a while back and was dissapointed that the sea had a blue tint as well, nothing like the renderings. Some other beaches it was even green, I guess its the cheaper water they use on some British coastlines.

I guess its not the fairest comparison!

For what its worth I think The Shard is an outstanding building. I have just had these niggling worries about the cladding thats all.

Chest - I think your photos can bring out the best in anything. They are outstanding. I reckon I just need to take a walk to the site and see it in person.

Fingers crossed anyway.

Here is some nice HD video I filmed last Friday....
enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtkszazeU4

I have been concerned for some time that the weather in London is often less good than the weather in New York City.

less rainfall that Sydney, Paris or New Yoik. About the same as Jerusalem and San Francisco apparently.. although its not just rain youre referring to,

Indeed people seem to forget how pants the weather can be in New York, when I've been it is either full on blizzard, rainstorms or sweltering heatwave that means anyone of any worth legs it to the Hamptons.

London certainly isnt an arcadian climate, but its bad rep is probably more down to the moaning we do about it to anyone that'll listen than the actuality, besides the Shard looks great whatever the weather.

Ok people, get a grip. My comment was a joke - I just meant that it was unfair to compare the Shard on a cloudy day with the Freedom Tower on a sunny day. I didn't want to take the thread off-topic and start a big discussion about the weather. Ugh.

Isn't the FT's cladding mirror-glass though?

Yes, making it shine more, you can see it in the main renders.

Back to topic please, it really irritates me when you talk about a building on a different continent, to where the thread is based to.

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Actually what is everbody talking about?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5472887577_e42b6c6ceb_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5472887577/)
camputer64-shine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5472887577/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5473483010_49919dbd8f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5473483010/)
camputer81-shine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5473483010/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5255/5473482926_0f658b3d2c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5473482926/)
camputer95-shine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5473482926/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5472887399_fe55164d4f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5472887399/)
To be honest they are kind of half murky
camputer30-shine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5472887399/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr

Medenine, thanks for the footage - a reminder of how stunning the Shard's going to be.

I finally succumbed and purchased the Hipstamatic app for my iPhone last night. So I had to give it a go on my journey in to work this morning.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/5473557532_f400c306e1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5473557532/)
From the train (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5473557532/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr

[yes, that's The Shard just visible on the right from South Bermondsey if you squint]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5473557896_8821c234e0_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5473557896/)
Shardamatic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5473557896/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr

So far, I've discovered that, on its defaults, it shoots at 600 x 600 resolution. :|

That has since been changed.

less rainfall that Sydney, Paris or New Yoik. About the same as Jerusalem and San Francisco apparently.. although its not just rain youre referring to,

wow, interesting - it hardly ever rains here. except this week...non stop :ohno:

I finally succumbed and purchased the Hipstamatic app for my iPhone last night. So I had to give it a go on my journey in to work this morning.

So far, I've discovered that, on its defaults, it shoots at 600 x 600 resolution. :|

That has since been changed.

I wasn't keen on Hipstamatic. I think I'm conflicted when it comes to retro simulation... and I also thought the interface was clunky. For 'no nonsense' extended features for the iPhone camera, I'd recommend the ProCamera app. It allows separate exposure and focus points, and has a white balance lock (what it really needs are white balance presets or 'saves'). It also has some post processing retro effects, but I haven't really tried them.

Sorry for the off topic post!

For 'no nonsense' extended features for the iPhone camera, I'd recommend the ProCamera app.

Aye. I've had that on my iPhone since about day two. :)

/derail

Modernity for The Few (http://www.blueprintmagazine.co.uk/index.php/architecture/modernity-for-the-few/)
February 18, 2011
Tim Abrahams

When Simon Jenkins condemned the Doon Street tower in the Evening Standard in August 2008, he said it would be ‘by far the most prominent building in the capital’. The picture desk at the Standard, however, clearly thought differently and felt it necessary to add a big red box around the structure in the rendering to differentiate it from others around it, somewhat diluting his critique. Jenkins used the article to criticize Boris Johnson for failing to keep his pre-election promise to curtail the construction of tall buildings in London. Aiming to put pressure on the mayor, he wilfully ignored the fact that once the former communities secretary Hazel Blears had approved it, the mayor had little influence.

The concrete core of a different tower – the Shard – recently passed 235m and became the tallest building in the UK. It is worth noting that although Johnson has toned down his anti-tall-building rhetoric, the London View Management Framework published in 2010, increases the protection of the capital’s viewing corridors, detailing no fewer than 26 protected views in the city. It’s astonishing that one of the fundamental principles behind the planning of London is not how buildings work in relation to each other but through an arcane idea of the picturesque. How does the place work should lead the discussion of how it will look.

The Shard is a monument to this former approach. When Sellar Properties first proposed a tower at London Bridge in 2000, the design by Broadway Malayan was rejected by planning authorities. As a result, the developers brought in Renzo Piano – a sensible decision given that Lord Rogers, his colleague on the Pompidou Centre, was an advisor to the then mayor Ken Livingstone. The final form of the Shard was inspired by the spires huddled around St. Paul’s in Canaletto’s paintings of 18th-century London. The protection of the views to St. Paul’s has been sacrosanct in London planning, partially because of the sentimental attachment to Canaletto’s pictures. It’s all nonsense of course, the Shard will be three times the height of the cathedral but Piano has used this rhetoric of spires against the critics.

As is often the case in London, the architectural discussion belies a deeper need. In June 2010, Sellar bought out an earlier contract with Transport for London and now aims to charge as much as £70 per square foot – a figure that makes London one of the most expensive cities in the world for office rental. However, the Shard will help with London’s deficit of hotel spaces for the Olympics by housing an 18-storey luxury hotel. The effect of the mayor’s compromise, though, is the creation a bizarre web across London of miniclusters around tube stations. Put aside all comparisons with Manhattan, or even Dubai, the chance to create a new kind of urbanism has been lost. London is becoming a city in which modernity exists in pockets and only for those who can pay.

Going back to the WTC, but is it just me or does it look like the cladding is a bit... wobbly on it? The Shard's glass looks really smooth whereas the cladding on the WTC just doesn't look as flat, the light appears to be reflected in different directions when it hits it.

^^I'm not sure I agree with that article. I mean, it's right about the mini-clusters here and there. However, to wish for a kind of architectural hegemony for modernism is about as realistic as wishing for an architectural hegemony for classicism. It's never worked in London, and the whole "pockets" idea is part of the point. Of course, there are areas that no-one wants to be allowed to continue to exist (some incredibly run-down council estates that help foster high-crime, for example), but by-and-large the city thrives on differentiation, and on different areas behaving differently. To give an example, I like Kensington very much. I would not want all of London to become Kensington.

I feel that this is what London has by comparison to the most obvious example of over-planning in continental Europe, Paris. Paris is a beautiful city, but I grow bored of it very quickly when I go there. There just is too much over-planning. Sure, a new and innovative way to handle things is needed in some parts of London (including the Shard's environs in Southwark), but it's not needed everywhere. Let the city evolve organically, as it has since time immemorial.

/backtotopic

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I look at places like Hong Kong and Dubai and think what's the point. They're bloody ugly.

....and you joined a Skyscraper forum why exactly?:|

....and you joined a Skyscraper forum why exactly?:|

well it's an architectural forum. A lot of the content isn't about skyscrapers

You may leave this Shard's forum alone, if you think this construction is pointless.


New icon for London "The Shard" :applause:

That is a great artical, Tim Abrahams speaks sense to me :) Or maybe I just like anyone who slates Simon Jenkins..

Required, you are not required on this thread. :baeh3:

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The shard seems to me totally pointless. The City does low rise very well. All these fervent attempts to make London look like New York are ridiculous. The whole things contrived to the point of needing to cluster skyscrapers. People forget New York grew upwards because of the lack of land on Manhattan island. Contriving to create a city of skyscrapers so late in the day is stupid. For manhattan and it's grid patternc", skyscrapers work. Skyscrapers just don't work in London. When I'm in London I wonder why they build these 80m pieces of crap that I just want to erase. There are plenty of ways to evolve and upwards is only one of them. I look at places like Hong Kong and Dubai and think what's the point. They're bloody ugly.

Here we go again 'Sigh' the world and his aunt.........

What a load of conceited rubbish!

I am a fan of skyscrapers BECAUSE they preserve my land - I am an environmentalist. Skyscrapers take up little space and concentrate resources (remember that office buildings are used for only 8 hours a day) in a small plot. The time is fast approaching when not only will they provide all their own power, but be net contributors to the National grid. Hell! they even contain mini rain forests when you add all the office plants they contain together!!

You claim you hate the 80m odd towers you see littering London (you are wrong - some have been here since the 1930's - Senate House?) It would be interesting to hear what you would like to see in their place bearing in mind that this is a VERY small country with a VERY large population (the NY arguement?) and along with NY is the joint financial centre of the world! :nuts:

Having said all that - you have made it quite clear that you do not like skyscrapers full stop anywhere, but to vent those feelings in this thread is - unusual and is akin to wanting your views to be noticed more than referring especially to this building I suspect - this post would be better placed in a thread of its own - maybe called The world doesn't need skyscrapers? Feel free to start one :) and no! This is primarily a skyscraper forum and secondly an architecture forum.

Someone could do a massive shit on the city and you wouldn't care as long as it measured over 100m
you just did

You say building upwards is only one way of expanding, but what do you propose a large business, who are setting up their headquarters in London do, if they require something like 400,000 square feet of office space? It's upwards or outwards, and building outwards would make the city look boring, and then eventually, old historic buildings would have to be destroyed in the name of profits, due to the skyrocketing land prices.

Someone could do a massive shit on the city and you wouldn't care as long as it measured over 100m

Who are you? I'm sorry but nobody wants you here,
goodbye.

Someone could do a massive shit on the city and you wouldn't care as long as it measured over 100m

I believe there's quite an orchestrated campaign against 20 Fenchurch Street.

Who are you? I'm sorry but nobody wants you here,
goodbye.

...and a real dislike of London too if you look at his other posts. Im sorry I wasted my time. Time to move back to the Shard :)

The shard seems to me totally pointless. The City does low rise very well. All these fervent attempts to make London look like New York are ridiculous. I look at places like Hong Kong and Dubai and think what's the point. They're bloody ugly.

LOL English Heritage would love you

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Latest diagram:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5470108619_9a481d7df9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5470108619/)
What i'm not sure about is if they are going to stop cladding the backpack.


What??? Dont tell me that they have decreased the height??

72 floors sly, the fox living at top of London's Shard (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23926400-72-floors-sly-the-fox-living-at-top-of-londons-shard.do)
24 Feb 2011

This high-flying fox has been captured from his home on the roof of the Shard building at London Bridge.

It is thought to be the highest distance ever recorded to have been made by a fox.

The wily creature lived off scraps of food left by builders on the 72nd floor, which is 288m high, for two weeks before pest control officers caught him.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/Fox415.jpg

The environmental argument is pure bullshit. 300m of concrete and glass is environmental now?

Your trying to tell an environmental scientist? - shut up!

Start a thread for this stuff if you wanna get floored.

Always love how open to different viewpoints the London forums are :lol:

Skyscrapers can be made to have environmental qualities but surely its true that an enormous edifice of glass and steel is not going to be as friendly to the environment as a structure made of mud and shit?

Someone could do a massive shit on the city and you wouldn't care as long as it measured over 100m

True, but then I'd be bloody impressed if someone could muster up a 100m long turd!!

I dread to think how the authorities would remove it though.
:storm:

Beautiful warm sunny afternoon. Roll on summer.
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http://i53.tinypic.com/nxj41u.jpg

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Interesting points.

Bearing in mind that London has a green belt zone which prevents further outward expansion, space solutions are limited and these days the chief option is to build upwards.

The shard is blatantly an exercise in money-making. My feeling is that over half the offices will be built speculatively - meaning they've yet to find a tenant and will continue to advertise after completion. It has nothing to do with saving the environment and everything to do with maximising profits.

Even the gherkin - the only London skyscraper worth it's salt in my opinion - was built speculatively. They built high and couldn't find anyone to fill the excessive number of offices they'd built.*

What do you think they were doing in New York in the 20s and early 30s when the majority of its skyscrapers were built? It all comes down to making money. Time and public opinion can make a skyscraper attractive and legendary (Empire State). If it just so happens to be a nice looking building then it's a double bonus for everyone.

What??? Dont tell me that they have decreased the height??

No. They just haven't finished building it yet.

The shard seems to me totally pointless. The City does low rise very well. All these fervent attempts to make London look like New York are ridiculous. The whole things contrived to the point of needing to cluster skyscrapers. People forget New York grew upwards because of the lack of land on Manhattan island. Contriving to create a city of skyscrapers so late in the day is stupid. For manhattan and it's grid patternc", skyscrapers work. Skyscrapers just don't work in London. When I'm in London I wonder why they build these 80m pieces of crap that I just want to erase. There are plenty of ways to evolve and upwards is only one of them. I look at places like Hong Kong and Dubai and think what's the point. They're bloody ugly.

Hm. I don't think anyone's particularly trying to make London look like New York City, although some forumers might welcome that. Of course cities grow upward because of lack of land, and London is no exception - average home sizes in London are smaller than in NYC, so you might say the need to build upwards is more pressing in London.

I certainly think it's a mistake to extrapolate from "80m pieces of crap" (which as often as not should indeed be erased) to high-quality tall buildings such as the Shard. Tall buildings got a bad name in the UK because of the post-war "tower blocks" thrown up cheaply by councils. Top-quality skyscrapers such as the gherkin, the Pinnacle and Shard are doing a lot to rectify that.

The environmental argument is pure bullshit. 300m of concrete and glass is environmental now? Why don't you start campaigning to flatten belgravia and force the tenants to live in a flatblock? This building professes nothing other than to be a profit-maker. Don't start lauding it as an environmental hero.

"Besides making cities more affordable and architecturally interesting, tall buildings are greener than sprawl, and they foster social capital and creativity. Yet some urban planners and preservationists seem to have a misplaced fear of heights that yields damaging restrictions on how tall a building can be. From New York to Paris to Mumbai, there’s a powerful case for building up, not out."

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/how-skyscrapers-can-save-the-city/8387/1/

The shard seems to me totally pointless. The City does low rise very well. All these fervent attempts to make London look like New York are ridiculous. The whole things contrived to the point of needing to cluster skyscrapers. People forget New York grew upwards because of the lack of land on Manhattan island. Contriving to create a city of skyscrapers so late in the day is stupid. For manhattan and it's grid patternc", skyscrapers work. Skyscrapers just don't work in London. When I'm in London I wonder why they build these 80m pieces of crap that I just want to erase. There are plenty of ways to evolve and upwards is only one of them. I look at places like Hong Kong and Dubai and think what's the point. They're bloody ugly.Hong Kong is not ugly. It's spectacular! Check out these photos from Ribarca:
1) http://www.flickr.com/photos/xavibarca/5017284779/sizes/o/in/set-72157624669178936/
2) http://www.flickr.com/photos/xavibarca/3889788463/sizes/o/in/set-72157624669178936/
3) http://www.flickr.com/photos/xavibarca/4309463088/sizes/o/in/set-72157624669178936/

Manhattan grew upwards because of a lack of space, but it was actually Chicago that invented the skyscraper, and Chicago has the endless Prairies to sprawl over. In other words the skyscraper did not evolve solely because of a lack of space.

Today the whole world is building skyscrapers. It's one of the most important architectural forms of our time. The best of them are beautiful, and the Shard is one of the very best ever built anywhere.

Human civilizations have always built towers, whether in the form of church and cathedral spires or castle turrets here in Europe, minarets in the Islamic world, stupas and gopurams in India and Southeast Asia, or pagodas in China, Korea, and Japan.

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few from me....lovely weather today and pretty warm for this time of the year
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The fact that half the gherkin isn't in use puts a damper on the argument that building upwards is an environmental neccessity. The environmental argument seems to have been deployed by these corporations to maximise profits. These are multi-billion pound companies and the best they can come up with is the Shard? It's hardly the Chrysler building is it? What about the built environment, the one most of us have to see every day? Such crap just screams "pack em in pack em high". I'm not thrilled with London being enthralled to financial services if it means pandering to their every whim.I don't think the environmental argument is the best one. It's the aesthetic argument that wins the day. Imo the Shard is far superior to the Gherkin (which is too fat and black at the top), and probably superior to the Chrysler Building too, much though I love the latter. The Shard is quite possibly the most elegant skyscraper ever built. It's the finest building in London since Victorian times. It will rank up there with St Paul's, St Pancras, and Parliament as one of the very best London buildings of any era.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5473769037_922f0244d1_b.jpg

Great shots. Now I wan't everyone to look at those and tell us now that the Shards glass is dull and lifeless. :)

The fact that half the gherkin isn't in use puts a damper on the argument that building upwards is an environmental neccessity. The environmental argument seems to have been deployed by these corporations to maximise profits. These are multi-billion pound companies and the best they can come up with is the Shard? It's hardly the Chrysler building is it? What about the built environment, the one most of us have to see every day? Such crap just screams "pack em in pack em high". I'm not thrilled with London being enthralled to financial services if it means pandering to their every whim.

What do you mean "the best they can come up with is the shard"? It's going to be one of the finest skyscrapers in the world. :ohno:

Look what's finally appeared on Google maps!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/ahaigh9877/googleshard.jpg

about bloody time they updated London on that thing ha

I didn't think anyone bar 5 year olds were impressed by tall buildings simply on the basis they're tall.



Tut.It's a good thing to retain a sense of wonder (childlike if you will).
And what a glorious scraper this will be,which will probably come to be loved by over 90% of the population i'm sure :banana:

Cool.

I just heard on the radio the Shard's first tenant has just moved in. A fox apparently lives in it and the construction workers feed it. Hmmm.

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I fucking hate it. It reminds me of the beetham tower in Manchester, only triangular. And I detest beetham.*

How the hell does that look like the Beetham Tower in Manchester?

Its a triangular shape, Beetham is a a box shape

Also, Beetham is top heavy, and from front on it's very, very wide.

It also looks like it has a cheese grater on the top as well...

Always love how open to different viewpoints the London forums are :lol:

Skyscrapers can be made to have environmental qualities but surely its true that an enormous edifice of glass and steel is not going to be as friendly to the environment as a structure made of mud and shit?

that would be so true.....if there were just 10 of us alive that survive long enough to throw our own shite at the walls of our hut - what are you talking about??? :crazy:

I suggested a thread be created for this. Oh well, yet another reason to prove this has gone awry.

I fucking hate it. *

Why dont you just say what you mean? I HATE it! and stop dragging us down a Victorian Cul-de Sac, taking this thread off with the fairies.

I fucking hate it. It reminds me of the beetham tower in Manchester, only triangular. And I detest beetham.*It's in a totally different league from Beetham, and if you cannot see that, you're an aesthetically illiterate philistine.

I fucking hate it. It reminds me of the beetham tower in Manchester, only triangular. And I detest beetham.*

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with Beetham Manchester

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, now that Required has stated that he hates the Shard there should be no more need for him to stick around on this thread trolling and generally stirring up trouble amongst the rest of the forumers.

I fucking hate it. It reminds me of the beetham tower in Manchester, only triangular. And I detest beetham.*

Troll.

I had never hear of the word Troll in a forum context before last week - now its in every other post!

I like how we are going to get a mix of architecture in London. I wouldn't want skyscrapers to spread into a sprawl like in Asian cities which would destroy London.

IMO I wouldn't want too many more towers in the City on what is currently under construction. If 100 Bish got a better redesign (taller) then the City is complete and anything taller goes to CW.

I agree about the city, but i don't want that many more towers going to CW, there are many more areas of London that could accomodate towers

Good architecture should evoke opinion. Some people don't like chocolate... so what, it's their loss. If you told Renzo Piano you didn't like his architecture he wouldn't give a shit.

But this thread/forum is for those who appreciate skyscrapers ! If they have BLIND hatred,then simply state that without clambering around with untempered arguments,and fuck off to ''turdscrapercity'' forum

Look REQIURED, I think you've made your point, and you don't like the Shard, well god for you, thats your opinion, and so be it.
Now this is a Skyscraper forum ( there's a clue in the title), and the majority of people on it like skyscrapers, and want info on the progress of this tower.

So please stop derailing the thread ( and that includes talk about Beetham Manchester) and leave the forum.

Everyone else, as tempting as it is, don't get drawn into replying to him

72 floors sly, the fox living at top of London's Shard (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23926400-72-floors-sly-the-fox-living-at-top-of-londons-shard.do)
24 Feb 2011

This high-flying fox has been captured from his home on the roof of the Shard building at London Bridge.

It is thought to be the highest distance ever recorded to have been made by a fox.

The wily creature lived off scraps of food left by builders on the 72nd floor, which is 288m high, for two weeks before pest control officers caught him.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/Fox415.jpg

Lol, wonder how it got up there?! Lift perhaps, then decided to take the outdoor lifts because it was a little too dark in the core!:lol:
What have those buildings been eating? Bovril?!

72 floors sly, the fox living at top of London's Shard

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/Fox415.jpg

:sly: :shifty:

Thanks London_marcus for the amazing pics. This building is truely amazing and maybe a new landmark for London

I agree about the city, but i don't want that many more towers going to CW, there are many more areas of London that could accomodate towers

Hello i would like to share this picture on this forum as well cos i thought this picture might relevant to my opinion. Well, i reckon London can create another cluster in this area, it would make 3 clusters for a European city like London, makes even more impressive. So, i do support Three Spires and other future tall skyscrapers to be built around The Shard, thank you :cheers:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5442991708_902b94c3f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhunter1987/5442991708/)
[Group 2]-IMG_2114_IMG_2115-2 images (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhunter1987/5442991708/) by EuroSprinter (http://www.flickr.com/people/jhunter1987/), on Flickr

Am I the only on thinking, if a Fox can do it, so can we?

72 floors sly, the fox living at top of London's Shard (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23926400-72-floors-sly-the-fox-living-at-top-of-londons-shard.do)


If I believed in reincarnation, I'd say Downfallen was back to his old tricks!

Yeah, good idea!
We will follow that fox's ways!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5474870318_e678d1c281_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5474870318/)
Next Saturday at 11:37am we should all group together with ladies underwear on our heads south of the site.
First we go to roof of the Guy's Hospital, parachute off the building, land on the 33rd floor, gas the workers (don't light a match like what happened in the diagram).
When the coasts clear take the core lifts to the highest floor possible, then go up the outer lifts and we arrive at our destination!:banana:
Just in time for lunch!:smug:

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156234258 Don't know if anyone else has posted but lol.

Shard Baby^^ PMSL! :lol:

Darloeye: Look up about 5 posts!

Im glad the shard baby has cheered up this thread today.

:lol:Shard Baby^^ PMSL! :lol:

Darloeye: Look up about 5 posts!

:lol::lol:

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156234258 Don't know if anyone else has posted but lol.

Did you seriously not see that article right at the top of this page? :nuts:

NO Really never was watching tv and scolling down.

Some 'proper' photos from today, taken with my 'proper' camera. :)

Usual mention that there are other pics from today posted in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard/).


General view from Queen Elizabeth Street, to the east of the site

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0102.jpg


A bit closer, from the eastern end of St Thomas Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0111.jpg


Shard Holding Area

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0116.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0120.jpg


a little further up St Thomas Street, at the junction with Weston Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0122.jpg


Backpack glazing proceeds apace

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0124.jpg

with a detail of the (nicely handled) corner

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0128.jpg


The structure by Gate 3 I noted last week seems to have acquired a Christo wrap :)

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0126.jpg


From the courtyard of Guy's Hospital

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0144.jpg


Western end of St Thomas Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0151.jpg


The second layer of glazing close to ground level on Joiner Street, by the bus station.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0181.jpg

Is this one of those churnalism stories as I find it completely unbelievable?

"72 floors sly, the fox living at top of London's Shard"

Does the core even go up all 72 floors?

It's such a shame that this will only hold the name for the tallest building in the EU for only four years. That's if the Hermitage Plaza in Paris finishes within 2016. Looks like Paris will actually beat us at something this time round .

http://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2009/03/hermitage-plaza-by-foster-partners-1727_fp350535.jpg

:nuts:

They haven't really beaten us seeing as those haven't even started construction yet. :lol: Just means they'll overtake us eventually. We'll have the title for a few years. :)

not because its french, but i really do find the hermitage plaza nasty

in a month...

http://www.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2011/KZFuag.gif (http://www.makeagif.com/KZFuag)

:lol: one month on and the sky over London is still as grey as ever

Anyone notice London's been updated on Google earth? You can see the shard! :D

Someone could do a massive shit on the city and you wouldn't care as long as it measured over 100m

I disagree, my general perception of this forum is that everyone hates everything except for 30SMA.

Hello i would like to share this picture on this forum as well cos i thought this picture might relevant to my opinion. Well, i reckon London can create another cluster in this area, it would make 3 clusters for a European city like London, makes even more impressive. So, i do support Three Spires and other future tall skyscrapers to be built around The Shard, thank you :cheers:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5442991708_902b94c3f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhunter1987/5442991708/)
[Group 2]-IMG_2114_IMG_2115-2 images (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhunter1987/5442991708/) by EuroSprinter (http://www.flickr.com/people/jhunter1987/), on Flickr

why is the tower east of the london studios in darkness i noticed this on my last trip to london is it empty atm. think its called kings reach tower. sorry to go off topic

I disagree, my general perception of this forum is that everyone hates everything except for 30SMA.

Wrong, Monkey hates 30SMA.

why is the tower east of the london studios in darkness i noticed this on my last trip to london is it empty atm. think its called kings reach tower. sorry to go off topic

It's been empty since IPC vacated it a few years ago.

Plans are afoot for a major refurb an the addition of some residential stories, so it doesn't look like we're going to lose another tall Richard Seifert building quite yet.

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/4920

Some 'proper' photos from today, taken with my 'proper' camera. :)

Excellent photos again, Rob. Muchas Gracias.

not because its french, but i really do find the hermitage plaza nasty

The whole of La Defense is a soul-less place. I love Paris, but I'm sure they could have found a better place for a highrise cluster than right out beyond Neuilly. It's like having Canary Wharf in Hertfordshire.

Wrong, Monkey hates 30SMA.I don't hate it. In sunny weather and from some angles it looks excellent. The unity of the design is also excellent. The entrance is really cool. There's actually a lot that I like about it. However I don't think it's as great as many others do, mainly because it's too fat and the top is too dark.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3432534/Fox-cub-found-living-off-scraps-at-top-of-Britains-tallest-building.html

Backpack glazing proceeds apace

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20110224_0124.jpg


Are they going to install any panels to the left of the backpack?
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Another jump-level 42 completely visible:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5475466629_397116aa69_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5475466629/)
camputer64-jump-25.2.2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5475466629/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr
And another update:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5476065694_f0e9bc2272_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5476065694/)
shard today-25.2.2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby/5476065694/) by The Shard Baby (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby/), on Flickr

It's such a shame that this will only hold the name for the tallest building in the EU for only four years. That's if the Hermitage Plaza in Paris finishes within 2016. Looks like Paris will actually beat us at something this time round .

http://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2009/03/hermitage-plaza-by-foster-partners-1727_fp350535.jpg

:nuts:

They look like two Shards turned upside down and pushed into the ground. :/
Or a pair of slutty tights with the pattern cladding. :lol:

Still - they could be reduced in height or cancelled - the Shard will be finished. I'd rather have 'points on the board' rather than catch up. ;)

I had never hear of the word Troll in a forum context before last week - now its in every other post!

Same, it's only within the last few weeks, it's appeared on almost every forum I read, it's bad here but you should see it on Autosport - disagree with anyone and expect pages just slagging 'the troll' off! :ohno:

It's such a shame that this will only hold the name for the tallest building in the EU for only four years. That's if the Hermitage Plaza in Paris finishes within 2016. Looks like Paris will actually beat us at something this time round .

The presence of two other, slightly taller buildings 300 miles away will not detract at all from my enjoyment of the Shard. This is not about dick waving. It's about stunning architecture.

True high rise architecture enthusiasts will also be interested when the Hermitage Towers start going up as well. And if you are interested in these things...those towers may well hold the tallest accolade for a while. But they will not forever.

I had never hear of the word Troll in a forum context before last week - now its in every other post!

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Just go die in your sleep you mindless flatulent troll.


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It's got to be at least fifteen years, probably closer to twenty, since I first heard the term. You must have led a very sheltered life :D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8346259/Fox-found-living-at-top-of-Europes-tallest-skyscraper.html

Someone had to post it!

about three times already. :|

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8346259/Fox-found-living-at-top-of-Europes-tallest-skyscraper.html

Someone had to post it!

effing ridiculous!

His existence required the services of

"our pest control officers"

funded by Southwark Council taxpayers, so after catching him

"we released him back on to the streets of Bermondsey shortly after midnight on Sunday"

So, they took him to the countryside, where he is supposed to live, fed him up, and then took him back to London where he can only survive by

"eating scraps of food left by builders"

fabulous thinking there from Southwark Council!

Don't know if this is a repost:

MbPAOGN1IBI

effing ridiculous!

His existence required the services of

"our pest control officers"

funded by Southwark Council taxpayers, so after catching him

"we released him back on to the streets of Bermondsey shortly after midnight on Sunday"

So, they took him to the countryside, where he is supposed to live, fed him up, and then took him back to London where he can only survive by

"eating scraps of food left by builders"

fabulous thinking there from Southwark Council!

OOOOOER what's her problem ^^ *sips Chardonnay*

anyway that fox is obviously more accustomed to living in an urban environment than the countryside

So, they took him to the countryside, where he is supposed to live

The animal sanctuary in question is in Wallington, not far from where I live: The Riverside Animal Centre (http://www.londonwildcaretrust.co.uk/).

They took him to suburbia, not the countryside. Though we do have plenty of foxes round there too.

Besides, releasing an urban fox into the countryside isn't likely to have a great outcome for the fox.

I'm just wondering if it was the same fox I saw at lunch time on St Thomas Street a couple of weeks ago.

They should have just shot it.

http://i52.tinypic.com/aaya20.jpg