The Shard Baby
November 27th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Is it twice taller than the Guy's yet?
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The Shard Baby November 27th, 2011, 07:06 PM Is it twice taller than the Guy's yet? SkyscraperSuperman November 27th, 2011, 07:35 PM I know you were continuing the old joke from before, but it's actually funny you should ask that at this point during construction, because the answer is yes, it's pretty much exactly twice the height of Guy's just now! Guy's is 143m, the Shard's current height according to ffinybryn (see post 21487) is 286m ... 286/2 = 143. :cool: And chest, your photo never cease to impress. Brilliant work. :cheers: Skyscrapercarazeeee November 27th, 2011, 07:36 PM ^^ Guys is 143,Shard 286. So exactly... EDIT beat me to it adschi November 27th, 2011, 07:55 PM What site/s are those cranes working on in chest's last picture? davidaiow November 27th, 2011, 08:04 PM Is that WEMBLEY?! In Chest's last picture? bertyboy November 27th, 2011, 08:20 PM Is that WEMBLEY?! In Chest's last picture? Yes. I'm guessing it's taken from somewhere around Greenwich (on a long-range zoom), so it would be about there. SkyscraperSuperman November 27th, 2011, 08:21 PM Well spotted! It's in the second picture too, between Guy's and the Shard. Palimpsest November 27th, 2011, 08:35 PM Is that WEMBLEY?! In Chest's last picture? A few years ago, I was walking along the Thames between Putney Bridge and Hammersmith Bridge and at one point the arch appears directly over the middle of the river. It took my brain a while to accept (i) that the Thames was orientated towards Wembley at that point and (ii) that the arch should loom so large from that distance. And when I first moved to London I worked with someone old enough to remember London before the BT Tower. He said he still couldn't come to terms with how you could view the "Post Office Tower", as he still called it, from all sorts of places. "It's as though it follows you" were his words. I imagine if I reach his age I will be saying similar things about The Shard. CharlieP November 27th, 2011, 08:55 PM I have now officially started to create my final Shard diagram timelapse, which will take longer than I planned, because most of my previously posted/saved diagrams have been filled with mistakes or wrong (for example the core widths). For now I have to go through every single paint document from August 2007-to today's Shard diagrams just to correct them to fit together in the timelapse. Wish me luck on my new long job:guns1:! Even the one above is wrong:cry:! Look at both Shards around the level 40 area, they don't match!:gaah: I don't want to make your job any harder, but are you going to ensure that it's chronologically accurate? For example, will there be an appropriate length of time between each image: 1 Nov - 2 Nov - (pause) - 4 Nov - 5 Nov - (pause) - (pause) - 8 Nov rather than 1 Nov - 2 Nov - 4 Nov - 5 Nov - 8 Nov ? pe7er_w2lich November 27th, 2011, 09:00 PM http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lueuimpg4H1qc2qwoo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1322510401&Signature=lxSipNBOHfH7IHSLCXE9fioID%2Fk%3D www.peterw2lich.tumblr.com pe7er_w2lich November 27th, 2011, 09:01 PM http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltsn2zjl671qc2qwoo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1322510456&Signature=gI8hIixkyTiwp92QglAzmOO89GA%3D www.peterw2lich.tumblr.com pe7er_w2lich November 27th, 2011, 09:01 PM http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnbmyxnNIl1qc2qwoo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1322510491&Signature=8Z05vEQfyCFelRqbgWMMRCZOFqc%3D www.peterw2lich.tumblr.com pe7er_w2lich November 27th, 2011, 09:02 PM http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmwktgYCU11qc2qwoo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1322510534&Signature=Bq7xyKoob7MOXY0yARmvEFe66ys%3D www.peterw2lich.tumblr.com pe7er_w2lich November 27th, 2011, 09:03 PM http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_la5ij3I1fQ1qc2qwoo1_r1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1322510592&Signature=U1%2FsFM9PUmg3vfOudqezyhuDnA4%3D www.peterw2lich.tumblr.com ^P¡lgrim November 27th, 2011, 09:15 PM These photos here remind us exactly how much progress has been made on the Shard since the second part of the core started rising at the end of summer last year, very impressive. lumberjack November 27th, 2011, 09:58 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6413546739_c03a11e785_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413546739/) DSC02040 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413546739/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6232/6413539853_77e17d906a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413539853/) DSC02036 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413539853/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6413528713_9249e27974_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413528713/) DSC02025 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413528713/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6413524765_5e215db892_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413524765/) DSC02024 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413524765/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6413517955_015aca776a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413517955/) DSC02019 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413517955/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6413560345_0389e1d8b6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413560345/) DSC02049 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6413560345/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr cybertect November 27th, 2011, 11:03 PM He said he still couldn't come to terms with how you could view the "Post Office Tower", as he still called it I'm not that old and I still call it that. It's still the NatWest tower too, BTW. :D Edit:viz, from my Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6124/5923244016_3670b01995_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5923244016/) Post Office Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/5923244016/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr Medenine November 27th, 2011, 11:59 PM Is it twice taller than the Guy's yet? Dam you beat me to it!! :bash: Skyscrapercarazeeee November 28th, 2011, 12:10 AM Dam you beat me to it!! :bash: Exacty twice as tall-but more than twice as pretty :) siberian dreamer November 28th, 2011, 08:05 AM Yes. I'm guessing it's taken from somewhere around Greenwich (on a long-range zoom), so it would be about there. Cheers, I was trying to work that one out. cybertect November 28th, 2011, 12:06 PM A few more pics from Friday evening http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111125_0025.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111125_0031.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111125_0071.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111125_0103.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111125_0110.jpg unkle77 November 28th, 2011, 07:15 PM http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24015068-shard-casts-a-shadow-over-towers-future-as-wonder-of-the-world.do usual moaning from Evening Standard potto November 28th, 2011, 07:18 PM wow they are still bleating on about that. Loved this comment.... "No wonder some of us want to go green,when you just think what pressure all these monstrosities being built now are putting on the Services ,Water, Electric and Sewage etc. Tower of London does'nt use a fraction of this. - Davey_Buoy, Chertsey, 28/11/2011 15:38" hippietrailer November 28th, 2011, 07:26 PM LOL!! That comment is just ridiculous. Miss matched comparisons. I think that kid should give rural vietnam or cambodia a try if he fancies middle age sanitation. So naive. unkle77 November 28th, 2011, 07:28 PM wow they are still bleating on about that. Loved this comment.... "No wonder some of us want to go green,when you just think what pressure all these monstrosities being built now are putting on the Services ,Water, Electric and Sewage etc. Tower of London does'nt use a fraction of this. - Davey_Buoy, Chertsey, 28/11/2011 15:38" Probably because about 10 people live there! Cat man do November 28th, 2011, 08:06 PM "Sites that receive World heritage status give an area a major tourism boost, particularly from foreign visitors." Does it really make that much difference, I know Paris has the Eiffel tower & Egypt the pyramids. I would go to see these because they are the Eiffel Tower and the Pyramids and not because they happen to be on some directory. The Shard could in any way generate tourism. Cat man do November 28th, 2011, 08:08 PM Ha! and typical ES "The 1,020ft-high Shard, a 66-storey office block". Why not the Tower of London as some old deralict castle then! hippietrailer November 28th, 2011, 08:49 PM "Sites that receive World heritage status give an area a major tourism boost, particularly from foreign visitors." Does it really make that much difference, I know Paris has the Eiffel tower & Egypt the pyramids. I would go to see these because they are the Eiffel Tower and the Pyramids and not because they happen to be on some directory. The Shard could in any way generate tourism. Thats a fair point, i think next time i go to london ill take a trip across to Southwark n grab a beer in the sky bar. Might set me back 20 quid but worth the view. Add it the collection of; Q1, eureka tower, auckland sky tower, sydney tower, Melaka tower, petronas towers, baikoye tower and that new 'un in Saigon. The Champ November 28th, 2011, 08:54 PM Where were these people when that awful windswept precinct with tacky burger stalls was built right next door? Cumino November 28th, 2011, 09:51 PM A few more pics from Friday evening ... Amazing pics! :cheers: Forb Noj November 28th, 2011, 11:59 PM Amazing pics! :cheers: Here here!! :cheers: pingyao November 29th, 2011, 09:29 AM It does wind me up that sometimes it feels English Heritage would only be happy if we stopped building anything except mock-Prince Charles-period-naff, and London simply stayed exactly the same forever and ever. The fact is a new percentage of people will actually trawl across to the London Bridge quarter purely to see up close and personal the Shard, thus boosting the economy and tourist trade. How confusing is that for these people to understand! Are tourists going to think 'ohh the Tower of London, oh its spoilt by that 300m tower over the other side of the river - actually that looks more interesting than this derelict castle'........maybe English Heritage are jealous? Puzzler November 29th, 2011, 09:59 AM It does wind me up that sometimes it feels English Heritage would only be happy if we stopped building anything except mock-Prince Charles-period-naff, and London simply stayed exactly the same forever and ever. The fact is a new percentage of people will actually trawl across to the London Bridge quarter purely to see up close and personal the Shard, thus boosting the economy and tourist trade. How confusing is that for these people to understand! Are tourists going to think 'ohh the Tower of London, oh its spoilt by that 300m tower over the other side of the river - actually that looks more interesting than this derelict castle'........maybe English Heritage are jealous? English Heritage has this simple formula: Tall = bad Loyalist. November 29th, 2011, 11:58 AM The viewing corridor of St Paul's from Parliament Hill in Hampstead Heath is now completely obsolete due to the Shard. There is no reason to maintain this viewing corridor anymore. In any event, these protected views are irrelevant to the way 99% of Londoners experience the city! PadArch November 29th, 2011, 12:00 PM The viewing corridor of St Paul's from Parliament Hill in Hampstead Heath is now completely obsolete due to the Shard. There is no reason to maintain this viewing corridor anymore. In any event, these protected views are irrelevant to the way 99% of Londoners experience the city! Well, not quite, the view of St Pauls is still unobstructed.. yes the shard is behind it, but you can still see the building..and it would be sad to obstruct it. anthonySE1 November 29th, 2011, 12:04 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/148jbd2.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2v33foo.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/eip9bo.jpg Loyalist. November 29th, 2011, 12:13 PM Well, not quite, the view of St Pauls is still unobstructed.. yes the shard is behind it, but you can still see the building..and it would be sad to obstruct it. What I really mean is that there is no reason to put limitations on tall buildings in Southwark. You already have the Shard and Guy's hospital. It makes no sense to freeze Southwark's skyline in its current form. pingyao November 29th, 2011, 01:43 PM Its really gusty here in Crystal Palace, must be blowing a gale at the top of the Shard! jamiefearon November 29th, 2011, 02:48 PM Wait a goddamn second!!! Why is their two threads for the shard both being commented on daily?? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=461 Ahhhhhh which one do I use. Oh god the humanity. I have been reading this thread daily for years. Now I have realized I could have missed so much from the other thread. ahhhh I might as well just end it all now. My brain feels like it has lung cancer. What a huge Cluster Fu.. Walsh November 29th, 2011, 03:40 PM Wait a goddamn second!!! Why is their two threads for the shard both being commented on daily?? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=461 Ahhhhhh which one do I use. Oh god the humanity. I have been reading this thread daily for years. Now I have realized I could have missed so much from the other thread. ahhhh I might as well just end it all now. My brain feels like it has lung cancer. What a huge Cluster Fu.. Yep, thats the international world forum, for all supertalls.. cjdavis83 November 29th, 2011, 03:47 PM It does wind me up that sometimes it feels English Heritage would only be happy if we stopped building anything except mock-Prince Charles-period-naff, and London simply stayed exactly the same forever and ever. The fact is a new percentage of people will actually trawl across to the London Bridge quarter purely to see up close and personal the Shard, thus boosting the economy and tourist trade. How confusing is that for these people to understand! Are tourists going to think 'ohh the Tower of London, oh its spoilt by that 300m tower over the other side of the river - actually that looks more interesting than this derelict castle'........maybe English Heritage are jealous? Could not have put it better myself ! :) REAPER666 94 November 29th, 2011, 05:25 PM Yep, thats the international world forum, for all supertalls.. This thread tends to get better updates because a majority of the posters live in the Shards area compared to the international forum. cybertect November 29th, 2011, 08:25 PM Not that I'm complaining, but the other thread tends a bit more toward 'Oooh! Pretty pictures' than this one :) pingyao November 29th, 2011, 08:39 PM ^^I'm partial to pretty pictures myself - shard porn. Schmeek November 29th, 2011, 11:47 PM Not that I'm complaining, but the other thread tends a bit more toward 'Oooh! Pretty pictures' than this one :) Did you see my PM? No Expert November 30th, 2011, 09:50 AM A few from this morning. (I want a better camera for Xmas) http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/skidmarks3/DSCF5963.jpg http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/skidmarks3/DSCF5964.jpg http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/skidmarks3/DSCF5961.jpg cybertect November 30th, 2011, 10:51 AM Did you see my PM? I have now :) cybertect November 30th, 2011, 11:24 AM A few pretty pictures from this morning ;) http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111130_0004.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111130_0005.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111130_0006.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111130_0009.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111130_0012.jpg CD. November 30th, 2011, 02:17 PM A few pretty pictures from this morning ;) Luvvly Jubbly, superb as ever. :) DodgyEye November 30th, 2011, 02:54 PM ^^ surely you meant to post that in the World Forum? ;) Uguisu November 30th, 2011, 04:00 PM Did anyone see Simon Jenkins's article in the Standard yesterday? Typical moaning about these 'monstrosities' dominating London. *rolls eyes*. I think the Shard is beginning to look absolutely stunning now - after culminating in that flat peak for so long, the beginnings of the spire have really transformed its appearance. I also think that, contrary to the opinions of people like Simon Jenkins, the Shard is going to attract a huge amount of interest from both tourists and Londoners - just walk across the Millennium Bridge and watch the amount of people pointing/stopping to look at it/take pictures/talk about it. It's quite something. Incidentally, it looked incredible from Waterloo Station main entrance this morning - the way the newly polished cladding was catching the morning sunlight was almost blinding! Lion007 November 30th, 2011, 10:26 PM Is it the highest skyscraper? jonnyboy November 30th, 2011, 11:01 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/8925848/The-Tower-of-London-versus-the-Shard-it-takes-dynamic-changes-of-architecture-to-make-London-an-ideal-city.html ^P¡lgrim November 30th, 2011, 11:03 PM Is it the highest skyscraper? Yes, the Shard will be the tallest skyscraper in the UK and in the European Union when it is completed. Forb Noj December 1st, 2011, 12:01 AM Is there a technical reason for a halt in the glass cladding? Also, I assume they will have to raise the crane again. Anyone in the know? bandy December 1st, 2011, 12:19 AM Is there a technical reason for a halt in the glass cladding? Also, I assume they will have to raise the crane again. Anyone in the know? Ive wondered the same about the cladding, it seems like its come to a standstill. Crane is at its highest point now, no more raising. cjdavis83 December 1st, 2011, 02:07 AM Is there a technical reason for a halt in the glass cladding? Also, I assume they will have to raise the crane again. Anyone in the know? Perhaps they want to fully complete the spire first, then just finish it all off after? Either that or there is no more glass left following the repairs after the riots :lol: SO143 December 1st, 2011, 03:49 AM from international forum by Insightful Light http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6221/6371177151_bbd01d81b4_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/insightful-light/6371177151/) [/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/insightful-light/]Insightful Light (http://www.flickr.com/photos/insightful-light/6371177151/) hippietrailer December 1st, 2011, 09:34 AM Awesome ^^^^ jarkti December 1st, 2011, 09:48 AM :drool: SE9 December 1st, 2011, 09:59 AM Insightful Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/insightful-light/) has taken some damn good shots: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6371201009_7c893d326b_b.jpg PadArch December 1st, 2011, 12:46 PM ^^ :drool: thats so iconic! SkyscraperSuperman December 1st, 2011, 01:15 PM Pity about all that horrible smog, reminds me of Beijing. But a fantastic shot regardless! :cheers: bandy December 1st, 2011, 01:30 PM that is awesome! London doesnt need loads of skyscrapers to have a truly world class and recognisable skyline because what it already has are of such a high standard in their shape and form and even in their balanced location that it more than makes up for the lack of numbers. London is a truly beautiful city, so interesting, now with the shard and the pinnacle, leadenhall etc on the way will give it such an interesting skyline. I would argue that we dont need more after this, the skyline will have a beautiful balance. potto December 1st, 2011, 01:33 PM well in zone 1 maybe stevekeiretsu December 1st, 2011, 01:53 PM Pity about all that horrible smog, reminds me of Beijing. But a fantastic shot regardless! :cheers: It was misty! OK, I can't pretend there is no pollution-related haziness in london, but that is mostly natural autumn mist more than real smog I think fauxhunter December 1st, 2011, 02:52 PM I think that when the shard is done and when 20fs, bgt, 122L and maybe 100bg and heron plaza , the skyline should stop because it will look amazing!! :banana: Magnog December 1st, 2011, 03:15 PM I think that when the shard is done and when 20fs, bgt, 122L and maybe 100bg and heron plaza , the skyline should stop because it will look amazing!! :banana: i still think we need a lot more skyscrapers, more around the same height as the pinnacle and the shard, or even taller in the city of london. fauxhunter December 1st, 2011, 03:28 PM But london looks better with no skycrapers apart from the few tall and amazing looking ones. I dont want it surrounded by thousands of skyscrapers like hong kong. Hong kong has some nice ones, but it has too many! ismail December 1st, 2011, 03:49 PM But london looks better with no skycrapers apart from the few tall and amazing looking ones. I dont want it surrounded by thousands of skyscrapers like hong kong. Hong kong has some nice ones, but it has too many! I Think we need the Vauxhall cluster, the House project around LBT, CW completed, and another 5 or so between 250m and 350m in the City, then I think we should pause. What we do not want in the city is anything else between 150m and 200m, otherwise it will start to look like a wall, and no NEW clusters lumberjack December 1st, 2011, 04:28 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6436583221_9f2b80ee0c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6436583221/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6436583221/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr jamiefearon December 1st, 2011, 06:25 PM Insightful Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/insightful-light/) has taken some damn good shots: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6371201009_7c893d326b_b.jpg This is a great picture but I think St. Pauls in on the left hand side spoils the view of the Shard. Therefore I don't think the Shard is really a super-tall. Core Rising December 1st, 2011, 06:29 PM ^^ Worst logic ever. Saul Silver December 1st, 2011, 07:56 PM This is a great picture but I think St. Pauls in on the left hand side spoils the view of the Shard. Therefore I don't think the Shard is really a super-tall. What if anything does that mean? skillaz December 1st, 2011, 07:57 PM i still think we need a lot more skyscrapers, more around the same height as the pinnacle and the shard, or even taller in the city of london. personally i think the way forward for london is by having only a few, very well designed and iconic buildings being built in the city every once in a while, as the cluster that will be formed in the city by bsg, 20fc, 122 ldh and 100 bsg will create a very iconic cluster, similar with the proposals in southwark and st georges. we also need a big, dense skyline in an american or australian style, which is where CW comes in. with proposals like WW and the like that could get off the ground once the works in CW are completed (circa 2018 if i am correct?) we get CW forming a very large, impressive skyline (even if it is boxes, IMO they look great if their used in large scale, like in sydney, or vancouver) similar to manhattan but realistically smaller scale. so this way we have large, impressive skyline in london and also a fantastically eccentric cluster formed of well designed iconic buildings. this is the ntural and logical way forward for londons skyline IMO. jamiefearon December 1st, 2011, 08:48 PM This is a great picture but I think St. Pauls in on the left hand side spoils the view of the Shard. Therefore I don't think the Shard is really a super-tall. Worst logic ever. What if anything does that mean? Maybe I should have attached #sarcasm Replace the words: St. Pauls with the Shard Shard with The London Tower and Super-Tall with Unesco World Heritage Site. What I said is completely ridicules but this is the logic of Unesco. Core Rising December 1st, 2011, 10:40 PM Would have been more obvious had St Pauls been even remotely visible. And moved to the Southbank since you said it was on the left hand side of the Shard.. CB LDN December 1st, 2011, 11:23 PM Two from today http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6438455443_b216b50d13_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438455443/) Shard in Sunlight (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438455443/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6438453423_08132345d4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438453423/) Shard by Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438453423/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr Curse the dirty windows in my office, and the rain this evening! Buck Rogers December 2nd, 2011, 12:31 AM is it taller than big ben yet?? frankie_baby December 2nd, 2011, 02:10 AM Could this be topping out by Christmas? ffinybryn December 2nd, 2011, 08:09 AM Could this be topping out by Christmas? No. bandy December 2nd, 2011, 09:55 AM No. the BMU has got to go in hasnt it? I suppose that will take a little while to sort. edtealdi December 2nd, 2011, 10:36 AM The very top of this one is literally a piece of cladding, right? So is this considered to have topped out when the uppermost steel frame is installed, or when that cladding is applied? jarkti December 2nd, 2011, 11:51 AM To me topped out is when a building reaches its final height :) ChrisPontius December 2nd, 2011, 11:57 AM Can't remember if i've posted this before, here or in the world forums, but i'll risk it :) You can see the shard and many other landmarks and buildings in this video: DqTLQxJ-lXo Schmeek December 2nd, 2011, 12:21 PM Two from today [/URL] Shard in Sunlight (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438455443/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr [URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438453423/"]Shard by Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6438453423/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr Curse the dirty windows in my office, and the rain this evening! forget the rain and the dirty windows.. Curse the dirty lump that is guys for insisting in muscling in on the group photo. Schmeek December 2nd, 2011, 12:24 PM Could this be topping out by Christmas? Surely they have to put the star on top of the xmas tree? Oh well, maybe they could hang some giant chocolates instead.. bertyboy December 2nd, 2011, 12:54 PM The very top of this one is literally a piece of cladding, right? So is this considered to have topped out when the uppermost steel frame is installed, or when that cladding is applied? Exactly. The frame of the spire might be in place by Christmas, but the last coupld of metres of glass that will put the fear into all urban parachutists, certainly won't be! frankie_baby December 2nd, 2011, 12:56 PM Exactly. The frame of the spire might be in place by Christmas, but the last coupld of metres of glass that will put the fear into all urban parachutists, certainly won't be! Well they could just put the top piece of glass on just to say its topped out then fill in the gaps ffinybryn December 2nd, 2011, 01:00 PM the BMU has got to go in hasnt it? I suppose that will take a little while to sort. There is quite a bit more work to do once level 87 is built before the BMU is installed and the spire is completed. Simfan34 December 2nd, 2011, 04:02 PM is it taller than big ben yet?? :lol: CharlieP December 2nd, 2011, 04:38 PM is it taller than big ben yet?? By a distance. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Big-ben-modern.jpg /pedant anthonySE1 December 2nd, 2011, 05:48 PM http://i41.tinypic.com/25qzscn.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/iqhrtg.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/iwpsh0.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3i4uh.jpg Ferryman December 2nd, 2011, 06:10 PM is it taller than big ben yet?? :nuts: How about 3 times taller! :lol: SE9 December 2nd, 2011, 07:55 PM Big Ben is 2.2m tall. Therefore the Shard is roughly 129.5 times bigger than Big Ben. :okay: scalatrava89 December 2nd, 2011, 08:02 PM Big Ben is 2.2m tall. Therefore the Shard is roughly 129.5 times bigger than Big Ben. :okay: :lol: He was asking for that. "129.5 times bigger than Big Ben", and it will be for some time. Getting the building watertight is what's important at the moment. Using level 87 as a working platform to aid speedy cladding installation. cybertect December 2nd, 2011, 11:12 PM Big Ben is 2.2m tall. Therefore the Shard is roughly 129.5 times bigger than Big Ben. :okay: I'm feeling a Father Ted moment coming on... :) The Shard Baby December 3rd, 2011, 08:38 AM http://i55.tinypic.com/65btro.jpg 1 year ago today, with thanks to the manned AnthonySE1 cam!;) Ferryman December 3rd, 2011, 09:38 AM Big Ben is 2.2m tall. Therefore the Shard is roughly 129.5 times bigger than Big Ben. :okay: :lol: Ok, fair play you got me! I should've said, 3 times taller than Westminster Palace Clock Tower :cheers: anthonySE1 December 3rd, 2011, 12:00 PM 1 year ago yesterday I delete 99% of photos so had forgotten about that one. Took a quick shot out the kitchen window with roughly the same angle just now. http://i41.tinypic.com/24mtehl.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/dyre35.jpg I am he December 3rd, 2011, 01:12 PM 1 year ago yesterday, with thanks to the manned AnthonySE1 cam!;) Aww, this photo is making me miss the snow! I can't see it snowing this year, far too warm. Oh well, im not complaining, im staring out of my window into clear sunny skies :) paoloroma December 3rd, 2011, 11:12 PM took this today on my way to terminal 5 http://www.madonnatribe.net/public/shard.jpg lumberjack December 3rd, 2011, 11:30 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6448953643_0d6e856d77_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448953643/) DSC02159 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448953643/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6448949937_4076ff1eba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448949937/) DSC02151 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448949937/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6448903393_a037a852cc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448903393/) DSC02126 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448903393/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7006/6448865531_8dc5dac1dd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448865531/) DSC02117 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448865531/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6448748893_b85ee199c2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448748893/) DSC02111 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448748893/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6448739679_2068a7bc30_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448739679/) DSC02110 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448739679/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6448684223_497e8648e3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448684223/) DSC02103 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448684223/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6448661179_cdb42c2ef1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448661179/) DSC02097 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448661179/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6448667905_935b34df13_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448667905/) DSC02098 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448667905/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6448656545_1794975e1f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448656545/) DSC02096 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448656545/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6448651589_588ea1e67d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448651589/) DSC02095 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448651589/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6448643769_89b20bee01_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448643769/) DSC02094 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448643769/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6448638617_50a3d72b6b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448638617/) DSC02091 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448638617/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6448619447_5be945a310_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448619447/) DSC02077 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448619447/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6448632461_60dac50269_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448632461/) DSC02083 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448632461/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6448614137_9309e543af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448614137/) DSC02070 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448614137/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr adschi December 3rd, 2011, 11:45 PM Wow, brilliant set of pictures lumberjack! :cheers: The Shard Baby December 4th, 2011, 08:33 AM Latest diagram: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6451230841_809b551c3f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby2/6451230841/) 2.12.2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby2/6451230841/) by The Shard Baby 2 (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby2/), on Flickr The Champ December 4th, 2011, 09:51 AM You can really see the clean window/dirty window difference in those shots Lumberjack Good stuff JG12 December 4th, 2011, 12:45 PM Thanks Shard, great stuff.. Is the top going to look that stumpy or did you do that to show a cross section? Edvvc December 4th, 2011, 01:12 PM I wouldn't call it stumpy. http://www.careerstructure.com/constructionspace/media/shard/images/287/shard-london-aerial-view-close-up-spire.jpg Medenine December 4th, 2011, 02:43 PM only about 23 metres to go :banana: Sterlokkkkkkkkk December 4th, 2011, 03:55 PM I wouldn't call it stumpy. http://www.careerstructure.com/constructionspace/media/shard/images/287/shard-london-aerial-view-close-up-spire.jpg I think the tip or not the same as in real life? fiddlediddle December 4th, 2011, 04:08 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6453075059_9d25e130e3_z.jpg Can you imagine London 2night being broadcast from there. Would be fantastic. Cat man do December 4th, 2011, 04:21 PM If Jim'sll Fix It was on I'd want it fixed form for me to ride in the window washer tub. anthonySE1 December 4th, 2011, 04:54 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/2vvndrk.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/fm3ym8.jpg *Nurse* December 4th, 2011, 05:44 PM I like where it just peeks over the top of things. This is while waiting at traffic lights on Blackfriars Bridge Rd. http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/sharDec11.jpg Edvvc December 4th, 2011, 08:09 PM I think the tip or not the same as in real life? If I can interpret that question as, "Will the spire looks like that render in real life?" then my answer would be, we haven't seen any evidence to the contrary. El_Greco December 4th, 2011, 08:26 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6448661179_cdb42c2ef1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448661179/) DSC02097 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448661179/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr You people need to stop abusing your photography, its hard to get a clear picture of the cladding. However in this one the cleaned bit looks pretty good, maybe it wont be bad as I feared. JG12 December 4th, 2011, 09:25 PM I wouldn't call it stumpy. Thanks for the render, I was just wondering because Shard's diagram didn't show the sharp bits (not that I'm complaining :)) Glom December 4th, 2011, 10:01 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6453075059_9d25e130e3_z.jpg Can you imagine London 2night being broadcast from there. Would be fantastic. There is a risk that being so high, the backdrop is just blank sky as everything is below the desk. I wouldn't call it stumpy. http://www.careerstructure.com/constructionspace/media/shard/images/287/shard-london-aerial-view-close-up-spire.jpg It looks like Orthanc if it had been built in the 21st century. Just imagine Gandalf sitting up there in the rain being smacked about by Saruman. Schmeek December 4th, 2011, 10:49 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6448748893_b85ee199c2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448748893/) DSC02111 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6448748893/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr Love this one. Something about the colour makes it look unreal, like a shot from a cheesy 70's sci-fi where a scraper is painted into the background to make the scene appear to be set in the future.. hippietrailer December 4th, 2011, 11:22 PM Agreed theres a white haze about it. cybertect December 4th, 2011, 11:24 PM There's more than a touch of HDR processing about it (well, tone-mapping if I'm being technically accurate). lumberjack December 5th, 2011, 12:00 AM There's more than a touch of HDR processing about it (well, tone-mapping if I'm being technically accurate). I just use the HDR setting on my camera don't tend to use photoshop as I never have time to photo, edit then upload. The cameras has a great zoom but the HDR setting can be hit or miss. Schmeek December 5th, 2011, 10:51 AM http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/pigeontalk.jpg cybertect December 5th, 2011, 11:13 AM Snapped on my way into work this morning http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6458827641_dffedaacd7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6458827641/) The Shard: Tooley Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6458827641/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr ffinybryn December 5th, 2011, 12:27 PM ^^ Must be a slow news week... The pigeons reminded me of this webcam shot: Attack of the giant flies. http://www.engineeringsurveyor.com/images/shard/camputer64-270611.jpg TallBox December 5th, 2011, 12:43 PM took this today on my way to terminal 5 http://www.madonnatribe.net/public/shard.jpg St Boltoph's House really is a blight :ohno: Sharkman December 5th, 2011, 06:00 PM I think the tip or not the same as in real life? The edge profile of the glass wont be too far away from the image. The cantilever steelwork that supports the upper glass panels will not look as slender and will have a heavier/chunkier presence. Also there is a big BMU unit that sits on level 87 which will be visible through the gaps, particularly the facing gap shown in the image. rda December 5th, 2011, 06:34 PM If Jim'sll Fix It was on I'd want it fixed form for me to ride in the window washer tub. It is coming back, for one special, but you already missed the deadline [you might have missed the be-under-14 deadline too, although maybe ShardBaby could meet that one :)] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15724602 cybertect December 5th, 2011, 07:14 PM A few other pics from this morning http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111205_0026.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111205_0036.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111205_0037.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20111205_0038.jpg delores December 5th, 2011, 08:25 PM i still think it's a real pity in that view that the new London Bridge Station will demolish the red brick building next to the pub. The Champ December 5th, 2011, 08:58 PM When are they going to glaze that lower shard!!!! want to see what it will look like spiny_norman December 5th, 2011, 11:05 PM The Shard's bleeding edge: anatomy of a 21st century skyscraper http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/12/the-shards-bleeding-edge-anatomy-of-a-21st-century-skyscraper.ars Interesting reading.... JG12 December 6th, 2011, 07:13 AM The Shard's bleeding edge: anatomy of a 21st century skyscraper http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/12/the-shards-bleeding-edge-anatomy-of-a-21st-century-skyscraper.ars Interesting reading.... Good article, thanks Shardview77 December 6th, 2011, 09:39 AM From this morning... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6464823951_a028b5bde0_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6464821847_53fa81598e_b.jpg CharlieP December 6th, 2011, 10:09 AM Apologies if this has already been asked, but how tall would the Shard be if it converged to a point at the top? cjdavis83 December 6th, 2011, 10:18 AM ^^ Must be a slow news week... The pigeons reminded me of this webcam shot: Attack of the giant flies. http://www.engineeringsurveyor.com/images/shard/camputer64-270611.jpg Also shows how fast this building has been constructed in the last 6 months!! It really is quite amazing. BodgeJob1 December 6th, 2011, 11:30 AM Apologies if this has already been asked, but how tall would the Shard be if it converged to a point at the top? Lolz..i think its safe to say no one has asked that before.:lol: Schmeek December 6th, 2011, 12:38 PM @shardview77 Good pictures, but.....:cripes: It looks horrid in that light. Like a giant Guys encased/reclad in a glass box. danm December 6th, 2011, 01:27 PM @shardview77 Good pictures, but.....:cripes: It looks horrid in that light. Like a giant Guys encased/reclad in a glass box. Wash your mouth out Magnog December 6th, 2011, 01:37 PM @shardview77 Good pictures, but.....:cripes: It looks horrid in that light. Like a giant Guys encased/reclad in a glass box. it'll look a lot better when the screen protectors are off! cybertect December 6th, 2011, 01:41 PM 2 minutes in Adobe Lightroom to mitigate the white balance (and a little touch of perspective correction). http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_02.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_01.jpg @Shardview77: if you object to my messing with your pics, I'll take them down immediately. ffinybryn December 6th, 2011, 02:22 PM Apologies if this has already been asked, but how tall would the Shard be if it converged to a point at the top? It's difficult to say because the sides are not parallel and slope at different rates. However, projecting the centre of the North & South facade columns, gives a height of just over 344m. Do I sense a retrospective planning application? anthonySE1 December 6th, 2011, 03:40 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/4ztg1z.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/adhrbk.jpg Sterlokkkkkkkkk December 6th, 2011, 04:07 PM This crown keeps on snivels wjfox December 6th, 2011, 04:57 PM Apologies if this has already been asked, but how tall would the Shard be if it converged to a point at the top? It's difficult to say because the sides are not parallel and slope at different rates. However, projecting the centre of the North & South facade columns, gives a height of just over 344m. I make it 355m. :) http://i.imgur.com/cV9Jt.jpg Sterlokkkkkkkkk December 6th, 2011, 05:09 PM I make it 355m. :) http://i.imgur.com/cV9Jt.jpg Проект изменили? Core Rising December 6th, 2011, 05:14 PM Nope, that is what it would look like if it were a pyramid. Nedd December 6th, 2011, 05:18 PM Google Translate really is wonderful... Core Rising December 6th, 2011, 05:41 PM :yes: I tried translating it back into Russian, but the meaning came back slightly different. cjdavis83 December 6th, 2011, 05:48 PM 2 minutes in Adobe Lightroom to mitigate the white balance (and a little touch of perspective correction). http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_02.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_01.jpg @Shardview77: if you object to my messing with your pics, I'll take them down immediately. Thanks for these pictures today! They are awesome. The Shard is now really looking like a supertall scraper, especially with St Paul's in the background! The glazing also looks like its crept up a bit...Anyone know the current height of the Shard now?? Shardview77 December 6th, 2011, 06:02 PM 2 minutes in Adobe Lightroom to mitigate the white balance (and a little touch of perspective correction). http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_02.jpg http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/misc/shardView_01.jpg @Shardview77: if you object to my messing with your pics, I'll take them down immediately. I have absolutely no objection to you adjusting my pics!! (Now we know why all your photos are so good). Only problem on this occasion is that you have stripped out all the early morning colours and it looks like they were taken at midday, rather than 7.30am. As for the comments from Schmeek... :ohno: - We are clearly on different planets, the building looked stunning this morning glowing a whole range of pinks, purples, oranges and yellows in the sunrise. The east elevation is in its element in the early morning. ffinybryn December 6th, 2011, 06:26 PM I make it 355m. :) I would agree with you to some degree... Your elevation shows the intersection of the East & West facades which are wider apart and will therefore meet higher up. Also, my dimensions were taken from the centre of the columns - not the outside glazing face. However, my calculations were done using a 3D AutoCAD model, not a scaled render... :okay: Supertall Robbo December 6th, 2011, 06:50 PM Sorry if this has been asked before but is it >300 m yet? if not how high is it :D SkyscraperSuperman December 6th, 2011, 07:01 PM It's currently 286m as far as I'm aware. It might take a while for the spire to come, they'll probably want to focus more on the facade for the next while before they complete the steelwork. siberian dreamer December 6th, 2011, 08:00 PM So now it's about the height of The pinnacle... cool! Schmeek December 6th, 2011, 09:09 PM As for the comments from Schmeek... :ohno: - We are clearly on different planets, the building looked stunning this morning glowing a whole range of pinks, purples, oranges and yellows in the sunrise. The east elevation is in its element in the early morning. Not quite on different planets, or different countries for that matter, but was sat looking at it on a monitor 110 miles west, whilst you were looking at it in the flesh.. I'm sure the morning light was beautiful, and like I already said: good photos. I just think the early light revealed the shards 'guts' in an interesting but not so attractive way, as opposed to when the sun is up and instead the glass reflects it making it look like a true shard rather than the 'guys 2.0 in a dull glass box'. Cat man do December 7th, 2011, 01:44 AM Looks like no Christmas Tree this year on the Shard, not even the crane is lit up. :( unkle77 December 7th, 2011, 08:27 AM Looks like no Christmas Tree this year on the Shard, not even the crane is lit up. :( miserable b*ggers Edvvc December 7th, 2011, 09:01 AM Only problem on this occasion is that you have stripped out all the early morning colours and it looks like they were taken at midday, rather than 7.30am. I prefer the honest early morning look, personally. And I mean in the photos not real life. Mickey28 December 7th, 2011, 10:03 AM I have been in London in March, 2010 and the Shard had only a base :-) Nice to see it in higher position. What date is the official end of work on the Shard? Maybe, I will be in London in August - few days after the Olympic games. Will be some other skycraper finish till August? stevekeiretsu December 7th, 2011, 11:37 AM Mickey28, next August I think the shard should be externally complete, but not officially finished or opened. - The Telegraph has a piece on removing satellite dishes from the bt tower (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/8937926/Engineers-remove-satellite-dishes-from-the-BT-Tower-in-London.html) which includes this splendid photo: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02076/shard_2076299i.jpg CB LDN December 7th, 2011, 07:00 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6472631351_579201b5e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) Shard at sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr Sterlokkkkkkkkk December 7th, 2011, 07:22 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6472631351_579201b5e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) Shard at sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr Проект изменили!:lol: london_marcus December 7th, 2011, 08:20 PM few from me today http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6472974047_dc91fbf2e7_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6472976505_4c72891ed2_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6472979171_fc6a512766_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6472981357_c9b61bedef_b.jpg rickster2k December 7th, 2011, 08:31 PM First one is ace. Supertall Robbo December 7th, 2011, 10:52 PM Проект изменили!:lol: that was funny at first but now its just annoying having to go to google translate paoloroma December 7th, 2011, 11:54 PM and from me, also from this morning http://www.madonnatribe.net/public/388312_10150445342119834_652844833_8424707_1479055494_n.jpg http://www.madonnatribe.net/public/389868_10150445256979834_652844833_8424657_1311311252_n.jpg hoodedvillain December 8th, 2011, 09:42 AM Mickey28, next August I think the shard should be externally complete, but not officially finished or opened. - The Telegraph has a piece on removing satellite dishes from the bt tower (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/8937926/Engineers-remove-satellite-dishes-from-the-BT-Tower-in-London.html) which includes this splendid photo: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02076/shard_2076299i.jpg Um....last I heard it was opening before the Olympics... Heard the Shangri La hotel is fully booked for the Olympics ffinybryn December 8th, 2011, 09:59 AM Heard the Shangri La hotel is fully booked for the Olympics :lol::rofl::nuts: http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/london/shangrila Cranesetc December 8th, 2011, 10:30 AM http://www.cranesetc.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/shard071211a.jpg http://www.cranesetc.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/shard071211b.jpg cybertect December 8th, 2011, 10:32 AM Last night http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6476000361_77eec29c5d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6476000361/) The Shard: Night view from More London Place (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6476000361/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr thedurringtondoctor December 8th, 2011, 10:35 AM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6472631351_579201b5e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) Shard at sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb_ldn/6472631351/) by CB_LDN (http://www.flickr.com/people/cb_ldn/), on Flickr That stupid clock tower ruins my view of the Shard. I will get my MP onto it!:cheers: nauticat December 8th, 2011, 03:17 PM Um....last I heard it was opening before the Olympics... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news....there are no plans to open the tower to the public...there was a lot of press speculation floating about a couple of years ago after one or two comments from a leading chef but that is all it was....sorry back to the shard.....great pic I must get my camera out again soon! adam.reed96 December 8th, 2011, 04:58 PM Hey guys, just done a quick video with the Shard in it, nothing special but feedback would be nice, planning to do regular updates soon. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJUeutbngA mogwai83 December 8th, 2011, 07:44 PM Looking great from Wapping this afternoon... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6477968019_7276124319_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/6477968019/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/6477968019/) by Docklandsboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogwai_83/), on Flickr skillaz December 8th, 2011, 08:15 PM That stupid clock tower ruins my view of the Shard. I will get my MP onto it!:cheers: i think it would make a hilarious letter to EH: dear EH that pesky little clock tower is ruining historic views of the new shard building, can you take it away prease? Supertall Robbo December 9th, 2011, 12:09 AM I wonder how much the coke costs in the minibar of a shang la ri hotel room lol. mogwai83 December 9th, 2011, 12:34 AM which coke... either £14 per 330ml or £14,880 per Kg Supertall Robbo December 9th, 2011, 12:39 AM how many hotels have you been to which sell cocaine in the minibar.. anyway .. Nedd December 9th, 2011, 12:43 AM Way off on the second there, mate! ;) mogwai83 December 9th, 2011, 01:30 AM Savvoy, city inn, vauxhall parl plaza, royal horseguards..... not that I've asked... radisson canary wharf.... etc... anthonySE1 December 9th, 2011, 01:00 PM Fri 9 Dec 1:30pm http://i40.tinypic.com/15g4etk.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/xgczlt.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/rkabd5.jpg haikiller11 December 9th, 2011, 02:17 PM https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4eb8LT9CU64/TuIE_F5jVgI/AAAAAAAAAH0/s6JKSL1Cdu0/s720/DSC_0457.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dk7NNVCBjO4/TuIKCU8RNsI/AAAAAAAAAJA/kD4DNBPn0vk/s720/DSC_0461.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bdQH-1sfxOU/TuIJrz9P_MI/AAAAAAAAAIo/4APaYOBZEw4/s720/DSC_0439.JPG my photos :) anthonySE1 December 9th, 2011, 04:33 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/v58wg2.jpg thedurringtondoctor December 9th, 2011, 04:44 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/v58wg2.jpg Nice pic. Is it my imagination or has the cladding taken on the sandy brown hue of Guy's? BTW Guy's is what Prince Charles would describe as the very worst of modern architecture. It is in fact let me say err a carbuncle.:ohno: lumberjack December 9th, 2011, 05:08 PM Lunchtime... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6482176885_fbf1729435_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6482176885/) P1040182 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6482176885/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr bandy December 9th, 2011, 07:52 PM Our very own ffinybryn has just stated in the world forum that the glass cladding will now rise before the tip is finished, a mobile crane will be hoisted onto the top asap next week (wind permitting) to assist in this. SkyscraperSuperman December 9th, 2011, 08:28 PM It makes sense - using level 87 as a flat base will give a single mobile crane full 360 degree access for cladding panels to be installed on all sides of the building - having the spire there would just get in the way, and so would require more than one crane on top to get the job done efficiently. So the glazing will be able to get done faster, then they can move onto the spire when the current superstructure is fully, or almost fully, clad. Glom December 9th, 2011, 09:11 PM So it will be next week before we notice any further progress? cybertect December 10th, 2011, 12:11 AM Lunch time today. There'll likely be some more to follow over the weekend. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6483987517_a3fe93805b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6483987517/) The Shard from Tower Bridge Road (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6483987517/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr scalatrava89 December 10th, 2011, 03:56 AM ^^ "One Tower Bridge", This is a new one to me. Interesting development. Is there a thread for it? I think this site is relevant to it; http://www.squireandpartners.com/project.php?p=9451 Turbosnail December 10th, 2011, 06:17 AM ^^ "One Tower Bridge", This is a new one to me. Interesting development. Is there a thread for it? I think this site is relevant to it; http://www.squireandpartners.com/project.php?p=9451 Potters Fields - it really isn't interesting! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=212552 Caveman December 10th, 2011, 02:50 PM http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/caveman98_ssc/DSC02321.jpg http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/caveman98_ssc/DSC02297.jpg http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/caveman98_ssc/DSC02295.jpg http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/caveman98_ssc/DSC02294.jpg and a spot the shard..... http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/caveman98_ssc/DSC02224.jpg chest December 10th, 2011, 07:30 PM a few from late afternoon - the window cleaners were out... http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4254.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4265.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4280.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4296.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4310.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4335.jpg Caveman December 10th, 2011, 07:59 PM Great pics Chest (as always!) I don't know why I bothered!!! rickster2k December 10th, 2011, 08:10 PM So that is why ffinybryn said this wouldn't be topped out before Christmas. And we were all hoping for it be used as firework launch platform for NYE. I expect they will use a small derrick crane for the cladding. This may then also be used to dismantle the main crane. chest December 10th, 2011, 08:45 PM one more from today http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_4293.jpg lumberjack December 10th, 2011, 08:52 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6488273721_fa6b16c7c2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488273721/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488273721/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6488275549_ddec16d801_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488275549/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488275549/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6488278919_e1d1f2d0af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488278919/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6488278919/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr cybertect December 10th, 2011, 11:58 PM Here's a couple more from Friday http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6489022305_b066c86de1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6489022305/) The Shard and Guy's Hospital (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6489022305/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6488946971_468804c803_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6488946971/) Shard Spire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6488946971/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr Medenine December 11th, 2011, 01:19 AM Chest Love the fact that your using Renzo Piano's inspiration for the reason why the building was built; ship masts and church spires.. Very thoughtful and the result is brilliant! cheers! Jack Rabbit Slim December 11th, 2011, 02:03 AM How is it that the Shard thread in the international section seems to contain better photos then this thread? not that I don't love the amazing pics posted here, they're great. but the one on the international area has some of the best shots ive ever seen. Shows london off well to the rest of the world eh! :D scalatrava89 December 11th, 2011, 02:07 AM How is it that the Shard thread in the international section seems to contain better photos then this thread? not that I don't love the amazing pics posted here, they're great. but the one on the international area has some of the best shots ive ever seen. Shows london off well to the rest of the world eh! :D There is an un writen rule that people don't fill up this thread with 'general' photo's. This is more of a update thread. Everybody knows where they stand. The Shard Baby December 11th, 2011, 08:05 AM Latest diagram: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6491014865_1bb534dbae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby2/6491014865/) 9.12.2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshardbaby2/6491014865/) by The Shard Baby 2 (http://www.flickr.com/people/theshardbaby2/), on Flickr unkle77 December 11th, 2011, 11:34 AM Was at the Shard yesterday...its looking TALL!!! :-) anthonySE1 December 11th, 2011, 01:44 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/21m6asw.gif createdvoid December 11th, 2011, 05:40 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6431070783_7864d496bb_z.jpg Freddy.c December 11th, 2011, 08:45 PM :lol::lol::lol::lol: Edvvc December 11th, 2011, 09:28 PM Pretty rainy out there. Intrigued by the red lighting on one specific floor... wonder what goes on there :eek: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6494565097_1c02e233bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6494565097/) 11th December (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6494565097/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr bertyboy December 11th, 2011, 10:17 PM That'll be the brothel floor in the Shangri-La. cybertect December 11th, 2011, 10:55 PM A few more pics from Friday Crucifix Lane http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0035.jpg St Thomas Street/Weston Street http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0044.jpg South side glazing http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0050.jpg SE corner of the spire http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0052.jpg Brickwork by Gate 2: raked horizontal joints and flush-filled vertical ones. http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0056.jpg SW corner http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0062.jpg The pedestrian bridge over St Thomas Street, soon to disappear http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0080.jpg Looking up the west side from Joiner Street http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0088.jpg Cleaning gondola on the west side http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0096.jpg Peeking up the backside of one of the wings. http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0102.jpg SE9 December 11th, 2011, 11:49 PM Pretty rainy out there. Intrigued by the red lighting on one specific floor... wonder what goes on there :eek: Anti-aircraft lights. pingyao December 11th, 2011, 11:54 PM The pedestrian bridge over St Thomas Street, soon to disappear http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20111209_0080.jpg Whats the plan in relation to this, new stairs/escalator from St Thomas Street up to concourse level or new ped bridge? cybertect December 12th, 2011, 12:00 AM Escalator to street level and a pedestrian crossing, a Pelican, I think. The bridge is being taken out over Christmas, if I remember the signs they've put up recently. scalatrava89 December 12th, 2011, 12:06 AM But the steps and bridge to Guy's is staying, right? cybertect December 12th, 2011, 12:16 AM TBH I'm not sure if that's going with the rest of the bridge, but I've not seen anything to indicate it's staying. The section over St Thomas Street to the station is for the chop, certainly. scalatrava89 December 12th, 2011, 12:22 AM I does look very temporary, but if it does go there will be a doorway on the third floor that only abseilers could use. Goat Rope December 12th, 2011, 07:36 AM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6431070783_7864d496bb_z.jpg Well that's pretty fabulous. Thank you for sharing. ffinybryn December 12th, 2011, 08:38 AM I does look very temporary, but if it does go there will be a doorway on the third floor that only abseilers could use. Also, the signs announce that the bridge is coming down at Christmas, but the escalators won't be opening until March. Ladder? cybertect December 12th, 2011, 10:47 AM Well, there is the other (main) entrance at ground level a bit further down Great Maze Pond. The stairs aren't visible on LB Southwark's Masterplan for St Thomas Street (http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200190/current_projects/2200/st_thomas_street_public_realm_upgrade/1). If you look at the drawing (http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/6032/st_thomas_st_masterplan), there's no evidence of the steps up and a rather inconveniently placed tree on Great Maze Pond if they are to be retained. cybertect December 12th, 2011, 10:50 AM Just found what I've been looking for. According to Guy's Hospital, it's all going Footbridge removal - Q&A (http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/resources/about_us/wayfinding/guys-footbridge-questions.pdf) [PDF] How will patients access the Sexual Health Clinic after the footbridge, stairs and gantry comes down? The current entrance to the Sexual Health Clinic will cease to exist. It will be boarded up and eventually bricked in to make it look like the rest of the building. The entry to the Sexual Health Clinic will move to the St Thomas Street entrance to Southwark Wing (currently restricted entry). This will become the main entrance to the Sexual Health Clinic and clear wayfinding signage will also be introduced inside the hospital to ensure patients can find the clinic through the new access point. cybertect December 12th, 2011, 10:52 AM Also, the signs announce that the bridge is coming down at Christmas, but the escalators won't be opening until March. Ladder? From the Q&A - there will be signage directing people down the existing escalators inside the station concourse. Additionally, What provision is being made for disabled people get to Guy's Hospital from London Bridge Station in the interim period before the new lifts become operational? The temporary route to Guy's Hospital will be clearly signposted both inside and outside London Bridge station. This will include directions to the lift inside the station that gives access to Joiner Street. Disabled people that are not able to make use of the escalators inside the station will need to use this lift. bestbud December 12th, 2011, 01:55 PM Just found what I've been looking for. How will patients access the Sexual Health Clinic after the footbridge, stairs and gantry comes down? Hmmm... Is that not a private matter? :eek: :lol: cybertect December 12th, 2011, 01:59 PM :tongue2: Cat man do December 12th, 2011, 04:43 PM How will patients access the Sexual Health Clinic after the footbridge, stairs and gantry comes down Guess they'll just have to use the rear entrance. scalatrava89 December 12th, 2011, 04:51 PM Will have to make the most the bridge then. Last chance to have a birds eye view of the loading bay. I'm talking to you cybertect, chest, anthonySE1 etc ;). Happy snapping :D. Skydoggy December 12th, 2011, 05:22 PM Guess they'll just have to use the rear entrance. :lol: Ferryman December 12th, 2011, 06:47 PM Went to see the Shard for the second time Saturday just gone. OMG, it really does have that WOW factor now in terms of height. In fact, my cousin came with me and couldn't believe how big the people were in the cleaning lifts and said she didn't expect it to be "that tall". I have photos, but please can someone tell me how to load them on here, pleassse! :) william_98 December 12th, 2011, 07:55 PM Went to see the Shard for the second time Saturday just gone. OMG, it really does have that WOW factor now in terms of height. In fact, my cousin came with me and couldn't believe how big the people were in the cleaning lifts and said she didn't expect it to be "that tall". I have photos, but please can someone tell me how to load them on here, pleassse! :) You have to upload your oils to a website like photo bucket, copy the image HTML (the one that says http) and paste onto the thread. Edvvc December 12th, 2011, 11:48 PM You have to upload your oils to a website like photo bucket, copy the image HTML (the one that says http) and paste onto the thread. It's BBCode you need. I didn't think straight HTML worked. cjdavis83 December 13th, 2011, 01:28 AM Went to see the Shard for the second time Saturday just gone. OMG, it really does have that WOW factor now in terms of height. In fact, my cousin came with me and couldn't believe how big the people were in the cleaning lifts and said she didn't expect it to be "that tall". I have photos, but please can someone tell me how to load them on here, pleassse! :) ...and the spire isn't even fully complete yet...! However, i agree its pretty striking now. Anyone know its current height??? Turbosnail December 13th, 2011, 05:42 AM Not sure if this had been posted before but thought it was a cracker - http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6497900741_ff4e664f1b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slawekkozdras/6497900741/) Tower Bridge at dawn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slawekkozdras/6497900741/) by slawekkozdras (http://www.flickr.com/people/slawekkozdras/), on Flickr anthonySE1 December 13th, 2011, 01:22 PM Finally started cleaning the south side. Is this the only window cleaning unit on the shard that comes out of a two panel opening? All others seem to be four panel openings. http://i41.tinypic.com/f1azy1.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2uh0sjn.jpg bandy December 13th, 2011, 04:29 PM Finally started cleaning the south side. Is this the only window cleaning unit on the shard that comes out of a two panel opening? All others seem to be four panel openings. I would say yes. It can only be two wide, possibly three at most due to it being so close to the corner of the building. Jamandell (d69) December 14th, 2011, 01:49 AM I was in London at the weekend, and once again I was truly staggered. It's friggin huge. I still can't believe it's actually risen after all these years. I managed to get a few snaps, here's one I have online at the moment. It was fairly blinding! http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/389967_10150599682357598_603132597_11712762_1739309616_n.jpg Plus a bonus photo I took... http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382628_10150604093257598_603132597_11721701_82692639_n.jpg I bloody love London Sterlokkkkkkkkk December 14th, 2011, 12:36 PM I was in London at the weekend, and once again I was truly staggered. It's friggin huge. I still can't believe it's actually risen after all these years. I managed to get a few snaps, here's one I have online at the moment. It was fairly blinding! http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/389967_10150599682357598_603132597_11712762_1739309616_n.jpg I bloody love London :lol: LOL у вса так чисто!:lol::lol::lol::lol: thedurringtondoctor December 14th, 2011, 12:45 PM :lol: LOL у вса так чисто!:lol::lol::lol::lol: Looks like it is leaving us and going to a better world. So long Shard and may the force be with you. pingyao December 14th, 2011, 01:27 PM ^^I assume its sick of English Heritage, its off to China! ismail December 14th, 2011, 05:29 PM ^^I assume its sick of English Heritage, its off to China! LOL Glom December 14th, 2011, 07:49 PM ^^I assume its sick of English Heritage, its off to China! I don't know about English Heritage, but based on the that photo, while very cool looking, it seems like the CAA might have some words to say about it. Sy December 14th, 2011, 11:41 PM You get a pretty decent view from the top floor rooms of the Southwark Travelodge (the blackberry camera is rubbish though). http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4637/34014910150504179190219.jpg Buck Rogers December 15th, 2011, 10:53 AM You get a pretty decent view from the top floor rooms of the Southwark Travelodge (the blackberry camera is rubbish though). I'd suggest that shran gri la in 2013 would be a MUCH better location for a dirty weekend... but each to their own :p ChrisCwmbran December 15th, 2011, 11:36 AM I'd suggest that shran gri la in 2013 would be a MUCH better location for a dirty weekend... but each to their own :p Slight price difference though! JimB December 15th, 2011, 12:35 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6488273721_fa6b16c7c2_b.jpg Depressing photo in many respects. Just so much poor quality, instantly forgettable architecture along the Thames. potto December 15th, 2011, 12:56 PM Slight price difference though! yeah by dirty weekend he probably means hiding in the staff cleaning cupboard thedurringtondoctor December 15th, 2011, 01:02 PM Depressing photo in many respects. Just so much poor quality, instantly forgettable architecture along the Thames. Yeah I agree with you. It is not exactly the Bund now is it?? danm December 15th, 2011, 01:17 PM Depressing photo in many respects. Just so much poor quality, instantly forgettable architecture along the Thames. I'd agree with the stretch of the Thames in that photo. Towards Waterloo Bridge the architecture improves a lot in my opinion. DarJoLe December 15th, 2011, 01:44 PM Towards Waterloo Bridge the architecture improves a lot in my opinion. Well obviously what with being different parts of the city built at different times for different uses. Gavrosh December 15th, 2011, 02:05 PM Yeah I agree with you. It is not exactly the Bund now is it?? Nor the Pier Head in Liverpool for that matter.... The difference is however that London's waterside, in fact the architecture of London, is in a state of constant flux, whereas say the Bund, or Paris or to a lesser extent New York were all done around the same period, which happened to be a good time for architecture. London's feel will always therefore be less uniform than those other examples, but on the plus side that does mean that we can recycle the land a lot more. Over time, long after were gone, London should be something of a curio of myriad great examples of different architectural styles, far more interesting than the uniformity of other places. thedurringtondoctor December 15th, 2011, 02:44 PM [QUOTE=Gavrosh;86668024]Nor the Pier Head in Liverpool for that matter.... Agreed!! COYB.:cheers: Unlike most footie forums I will NOT say Kenwright out:) Jamandell (d69) December 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM You get a pretty decent view from the top floor rooms of the Southwark Travelodge (the blackberry camera is rubbish though). I was staying at the Southwark Travelodge this weekend! Sadly my view was of a brick wall... |