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bangyuk
April 11th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Cybertect,

What software do you use to stitch those montages together? Very nice effect!

Thanks

danm
April 11th, 2012, 06:03 PM
A few good points, and some predictable bluster to go with it from this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9198020/The-Shard-the-only-way-is-up.html

The Shard: the only way is up

By Ellis Woodman
3:48PM BST 11 Apr 2012

With more towers like the Shard on the way, where is the unifying vision for London’s changing skyline, asks Ellis Woodman.

After more than three years of watching its relentless ascent, Londoners could be forgiven for failing to have registered that on March 30, the Shard finally stopped growing. The last piece of steel was fitted to the tower’s crown by a trio of site operatives known to history as Daz, G-man and Mr B, bringing it to a height of 309.6768 metres – a figure that varies ever so slightly in response to changes in temperature.

That is a full 75 metres taller than One Canada Square, the tower at London’s Canary Wharf that has been Britain’s tallest since its completion in 1991. When work on the Shard finishes at the beginning of next year it will not only claim that title but that of tallest building across the entire European Union.

Unsurprisingly, given its prominence, few recent buildings have proved more divisive. For its fans, the Shard is a statement of London’s confidence – of the fact that this ancient city has now grown into a thrusting metropolis, unburdened by its past, and with nothing to fear from the likes of Frankfurt and Shanghai. They argue, too, that there is much that is remarkable about the design beyond the matter of its height.

What do you think of the Shard?
Love it
Loathe it
Haven't noticed it
Vote

Love it or loathe it, that certainly is true. It is the work of the Italian architect Renzo Piano, perhaps best known for designing Paris’s stridently mechanistic Pompidou Centre with his former partner, Richard Rogers. The Shard, however, belongs to a different tradition of modern architecture – one that draws its imagery not from industry but from the organic world.

In the early decades of the last century, a group of German architects, centred on the utopian visionary Bruno Taut, became enamoured by the idea of directing new developments in glass technology towards the creation of buildings of crystalline form and often gargantuan scale.

They built almost nothing, but schemes such as Taut’s fantastical proposal of 1919 to create a city in the Alps constructed entirely of glass continue to resonate in the imaginations of architects today. The sparkling, craggy spire that now looms over London Bridge station could have been plucked straight from one of Taut’s expressionistic watercolours.

The fact that the Shard’s footprint shrinks from floor to floor has major implications not only for its appearance but for its organisation, too. Different sizes of floor invite different uses. The bottom third of the building – where the floors are broadest – happily accommodates office space, but above that restaurants, a hotel, a spa, and some of London’s most desirable apartments are being slotted in. The public viewing gallery at the very top is expected to attract more than two million visitors each year. While Piano’s claim that the Shard is not a tower but “a vertical city” might smack of hyperbole, it is undeniable that in its mix of uses, his building differs radically from any built in the UK before.

Yet many Londoners are unpersuaded that their city has been best served by the addition of such a domineering structure. At the 2002 planning inquiry into the project, English Heritage, the Royal Parks Foundation and a raft of London boroughs lined up to object. Their doubts centred not just on the building’s height but on its location. From the 1970s until very recently, the construction of tall buildings in London was restricted to its two primary business districts, the City and Canary Wharf, where their visual impact could be contained. Sited in near isolation on the south bank of the Thames, the Shard is one of the first examples of a new generation of towers that depart from this cluster model. We would have seen more already had it not been for the economic downturn. However, the number of extant planning permissions for very tall buildings all across the capital suggests that its skyline could be transformed beyond recognition very soon.

The causes of this dramatic shift can be traced back to the election of Ken Livingstone as the city’s mayor in 2000. One of his first actions was to tell the capital’s boroughs informing that he had “no objection in principle to London having the tallest of buildings”. With the publication of the London Plan two years later, he effectively denied them the right to impose blanket height restrictions, overnight transforming the sky above the capital into gold-rush territory. As long as the developers’ proposals didn’t endanger aircraft or obscure protected views of the Houses of Parliament and St Paul’s Cathedral, they found they could build pretty much as high as they wanted.

The south bank of the Thames, where the Shard stands, is particularly vulnerable to the effects of this liberalisation. A line of very tall – largely residential – buildings is now planned for sites extending all the way from Vauxhall in the West to Deptford in the East. Given London’s housing shortage, there are good reasons to welcome that escalation in height. However, what both Livingstone and the current mayor, Boris Johnson, have failed to provide is a plan that might steer all this development to a considered outcome.

The Shard may stand alone today, but what will it look like when hemmed in by such soon-to-arrive neighbours as the Boomerang and the Quill? In the absence of a vision to which London’s skyline might aspire, the city is at risk of transforming its riverside into a Costa del Icon, along which every tower is competing to be taller and more flamboyant than the next.

The Shard may be as impressive a skyscraper as any being built in the world today, but it suggests worrying questions about the direction that London is heading in. With the mayoral election now less than a month away, it might now be a good time for Londoners to start asking them.

Glom
April 11th, 2012, 06:09 PM
That is a great one. Looks a bit like a painting. A great shot to put onto canvas a hang up in the lobby.

The building looks good too. I definitely think how well this building works depends hugely on the lighting and the angle, but they are both right in that shot.

cybertect
April 11th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Cybertect,

What software do you use to stitch those montages together? Very nice effect!

Thanks

Collage in Photoshop CS5, then tweaked by hand.

Misty2k
April 11th, 2012, 06:48 PM
Post-lunch bonus pic

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[URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6921567774/"]Shard Joiner - Tooley Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertect/6921567774/) by cybertect (http://www.flickr.com/people/cybertect/), on Flickr

Thanks Rob,

Love this and all your cracking contributions to this thread.

I work in Cottons Centre and frequently wander along to Tesco in More London so next time I see someone taking a photo (or 50) I'll assume it's you.


Dee

Goandude45
April 11th, 2012, 07:00 PM
American student Bradley Garrett and two pals managed to break into the Shard - western Europe's tallest building - and scaled the office block -- and took snaps of their efforts



www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKQ-XRI-umU

cjdavis83
April 11th, 2012, 07:15 PM
A few good points, and some predictable bluster to go with it from this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9198020/The-Shard-the-only-way-is-up.html

The Shard: the only way is up

By Ellis Woodman
3:48PM BST 11 Apr 2012

With more towers like the Shard on the way, where is the unifying vision for London’s changing skyline, asks Ellis Woodman.

After more than three years of watching its relentless ascent, Londoners could be forgiven for failing to have registered that on March 30, the Shard finally stopped growing. The last piece of steel was fitted to the tower’s crown by a trio of site operatives known to history as Daz, G-man and Mr B, bringing it to a height of 309.6768 metres – a figure that varies ever so slightly in response to changes in temperature.

That is a full 75 metres taller than One Canada Square, the tower at London’s Canary Wharf that has been Britain’s tallest since its completion in 1991. When work on the Shard finishes at the beginning of next year it will not only claim that title but that of tallest building across the entire European Union.

Unsurprisingly, given its prominence, few recent buildings have proved more divisive. For its fans, the Shard is a statement of London’s confidence – of the fact that this ancient city has now grown into a thrusting metropolis, unburdened by its past, and with nothing to fear from the likes of Frankfurt and Shanghai. They argue, too, that there is much that is remarkable about the design beyond the matter of its height.

What do you think of the Shard?
Love it
Loathe it
Haven't noticed it
Vote

Love it or loathe it, that certainly is true. It is the work of the Italian architect Renzo Piano, perhaps best known for designing Paris’s stridently mechanistic Pompidou Centre with his former partner, Richard Rogers. The Shard, however, belongs to a different tradition of modern architecture – one that draws its imagery not from industry but from the organic world.

In the early decades of the last century, a group of German architects, centred on the utopian visionary Bruno Taut, became enamoured by the idea of directing new developments in glass technology towards the creation of buildings of crystalline form and often gargantuan scale.

They built almost nothing, but schemes such as Taut’s fantastical proposal of 1919 to create a city in the Alps constructed entirely of glass continue to resonate in the imaginations of architects today. The sparkling, craggy spire that now looms over London Bridge station could have been plucked straight from one of Taut’s expressionistic watercolours.

The fact that the Shard’s footprint shrinks from floor to floor has major implications not only for its appearance but for its organisation, too. Different sizes of floor invite different uses. The bottom third of the building – where the floors are broadest – happily accommodates office space, but above that restaurants, a hotel, a spa, and some of London’s most desirable apartments are being slotted in. The public viewing gallery at the very top is expected to attract more than two million visitors each year. While Piano’s claim that the Shard is not a tower but “a vertical city” might smack of hyperbole, it is undeniable that in its mix of uses, his building differs radically from any built in the UK before.

Yet many Londoners are unpersuaded that their city has been best served by the addition of such a domineering structure. At the 2002 planning inquiry into the project, English Heritage, the Royal Parks Foundation and a raft of London boroughs lined up to object. Their doubts centred not just on the building’s height but on its location. From the 1970s until very recently, the construction of tall buildings in London was restricted to its two primary business districts, the City and Canary Wharf, where their visual impact could be contained. Sited in near isolation on the south bank of the Thames, the Shard is one of the first examples of a new generation of towers that depart from this cluster model. We would have seen more already had it not been for the economic downturn. However, the number of extant planning permissions for very tall buildings all across the capital suggests that its skyline could be transformed beyond recognition very soon.

The causes of this dramatic shift can be traced back to the election of Ken Livingstone as the city’s mayor in 2000. One of his first actions was to tell the capital’s boroughs informing that he had “no objection in principle to London having the tallest of buildings”. With the publication of the London Plan two years later, he effectively denied them the right to impose blanket height restrictions, overnight transforming the sky above the capital into gold-rush territory. As long as the developers’ proposals didn’t endanger aircraft or obscure protected views of the Houses of Parliament and St Paul’s Cathedral, they found they could build pretty much as high as they wanted.

The south bank of the Thames, where the Shard stands, is particularly vulnerable to the effects of this liberalisation. A line of very tall – largely residential – buildings is now planned for sites extending all the way from Vauxhall in the West to Deptford in the East. Given London’s housing shortage, there are good reasons to welcome that escalation in height. However, what both Livingstone and the current mayor, Boris Johnson, have failed to provide is a plan that might steer all this development to a considered outcome.

The Shard may stand alone today, but what will it look like when hemmed in by such soon-to-arrive neighbours as the Boomerang and the Quill? In the absence of a vision to which London’s skyline might aspire, the city is at risk of transforming its riverside into a Costa del Icon, along which every tower is competing to be taller and more flamboyant than the next.

The Shard may be as impressive a skyscraper as any being built in the world today, but it suggests worrying questions about the direction that London is heading in. With the mayoral election now less than a month away, it might now be a good time for Londoners to start asking them.

It seems like Londoners really love The Shard judging by the poll results..Good to know!

nrm the 2nd
April 11th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Well the climbing frame has been put to the top of the crane and the lower tie installed on the mast so it looks like they are gearing up to start removing sections

cybertect
April 11th, 2012, 08:06 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9198020/The-Shard-the-only-way-is-up.html

The Shard, however, belongs to a different tradition of modern architecture – one that draws its imagery not from industry but from the organic world.

In the early decades of the last century, a group of German architects, centred on the utopian visionary Bruno Taut, became enamoured by the idea of directing new developments in glass technology towards the creation of buildings of crystalline form and often gargantuan scale.

They built almost nothing, but schemes such as Taut’s fantastical proposal of 1919 to create a city in the Alps constructed entirely of glass continue to resonate in the imaginations of architects today. The sparkling, craggy spire that now looms over London Bridge station could have been plucked straight from one of Taut’s expressionistic watercolours.

Good to see Bruno Taut getting a nod.

I recently suggested getting well acquainted with him and the 'Glass Chain' to colleague of mine who's doing a part time postgrad course on Materials and Society when she had to write an essay about glass.

Modernism is much more diverse than many people seem to believe.

Accura4Matalan
April 11th, 2012, 08:10 PM
...

Stairz
April 11th, 2012, 09:35 PM
:troll:

Core Rising
April 11th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Pfft That isn't even a Supertall.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Wells_Fargo_Center_from_Foshay.jpg/220px-Wells_Fargo_Center_from_Foshay.jpg

Bank of America Plaza in Atlanta is where it's at!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Bankofamerica-atlanta-feb09.jpg/250px-Bankofamerica-atlanta-feb09.jpg

;)

william_98
April 11th, 2012, 10:05 PM
Some pics from today. Hope you like them. :)

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/79fa7a1f.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/d630e876.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/80f3b8c5.jpg

danm
April 11th, 2012, 11:23 PM
it's just a small supertall. glass. pointy top. people live and work in it.

i think it'd be helpful if london got its head out of its ass and realized it's playing catchup - this kind of thing has been standard all around the world for decades. but OMG LONDON DID IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

i think it's a pretty cool design though. it's in the same league as the wells fargo center in minneapolis for me.

thank you for all the pics everyone. :)

You on your period mate? Yes, we all know London is playing catch up. The reason London is only just getting its first supertall is because the planning laws in this city have been stacked against the construction of skyscrapers for a long time.

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Last update for the day :)

Spire with the derrick crane on the SW corner

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0105.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0111.jpg

spot the guy abseiling his way up to the peak of the south side...

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0124.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0125.jpg

At ground level, the most significant development has been the hoarding around Gate 1 being taken down and replaced by a lower, moveable metal fence. The site entrance turnstiles for construction workers have gone with it.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0135.jpg

giving us a better look at the escalator

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0140.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0143.jpg

ill tonkso
April 12th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Two observations about the Escalators:

No shelter for most of it, going to get rather wet on them on a rainy day.

No stairs for those who would rather walk?

SO143
April 12th, 2012, 12:58 AM
the shard spires seem pretty short and bulky in those pics posted by cybertect :)

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Sorry, I lied about it being the last - I forgot this photo from this morning. :D

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120411_0017.jpg

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Two observations about the Escalators:

No shelter for most of it, going to get rather wet on them on a rainy day.

There are some more canopies to go in yet.

http://www.teamlondonbridge.co.uk/newsdetails.aspx?ref=2005

No stairs for those who would rather walk?

There's nothing stopping you walking down or up an escalator. I always do :dunno:

Skydoggy
April 12th, 2012, 01:07 AM
Two observations about the Escalators:

No shelter for most of it, going to get rather wet on them on a rainy day.

No stairs for those who would rather walk?

By the markings and holes on the support steels, it looks to me if a canopy over the escalators will be fitted. However, I would have thought it easier to erect it before the escalators went in! We shall see!

stevekeiretsu
April 12th, 2012, 01:52 AM
pedant corner: you can't abseil up ;)

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 01:55 AM
I did mean to check that, but it slipped through :cripes:

london-b
April 12th, 2012, 06:35 AM
it's just a small supertall. glass. pointy top. people live and work in it.

i think it'd be helpful if london got its head out of its ass and realized it's playing catchup - this kind of thing has been standard all around the world for decades. but OMG LONDON DID IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

i think it's a pretty cool design though. it's in the same league as the wells fargo center in minneapolis for me.

thank you for all the pics everyone. :)

You ok bro?

Stairz
April 12th, 2012, 09:30 AM
there was a valid point in there, it was just poorly made. it's like meaning to tell your girlfriend you prefer her hair down rather than up, but you go about it the wrong way by saying: your hair looks horrible up like that. <-- you had a point, you communicated it poorly, and now everyone's upset.

illtonka raises a good point about the escalators. even though cybertect provides us with a link showing the end product, does this seem sufficient canopy cover to shelter users from london's swirling rain?

http://www.teamlondonbridge.co.uk/gfx/uploads/textbox/St%20Thomas%20Street_web.jpg

then again these architects have just designed a big old complicated building - are they really going to screw up something as simple as an escalator? if that was the case someone might want to check that they remembered to install lifts.

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 09:58 AM
So, hypothesising that the canopy was a lit closer: you step off the bottom of the escalator and go to cross St Thomas Street.

What happens to the rain?

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 10:00 AM
BTW it looks like a section of the tower crane is on its way down.

Misty2k
April 12th, 2012, 10:08 AM
BTW it looks like a section of the tower crane is on its way down.

Yep...

Have just taken these from my desk, using my phone.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/IMAG0215.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/IMAG0216.jpg


Dee

[EDIT] P.S. Sorry for *horrible* quality.

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 10:32 AM
I only had one of my shorter lenses with me, so I had to crop quite heavily

From the Elephant & Castle.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0004.jpg


A bit closer on Tower Bridge Road, but not such a good angle.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0010.jpg

shard97
April 12th, 2012, 10:38 AM
can someone offer an explanation as to how the tc is removed while stll being ableto function?

shard97
April 12th, 2012, 10:47 AM
http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/shard/camputer64.jpg
LIVE

Misty2k
April 12th, 2012, 11:04 AM
can someone offer an explanation as to how the tc is removed while stll being ableto function?

+1

rhidian7
April 12th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Why have they left that crane section hanging there for so long? Surely they'd want to get it on the floor asap?

chip1e
April 12th, 2012, 11:13 AM
can someone offer an explanation as to how the tc is removed while stll being ableto function?


Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ijmN9Y-w0

And a few more on youtube.

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 11:14 AM
can someone offer an explanation as to how the tc is removed while stll being ableto function?

You mean the climber?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB91Sm-kGJ8

chip1e
April 12th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Why have they left that crane section hanging there for so long? Surely they'd want to get it on the floor asap?


It is to balance the crane while the climbing frame is in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39152VWCPk&feature=related

Misty2k
April 12th, 2012, 11:43 AM
There is a team of window cleaners (?) abseiling down the East face as at 10:42am.

I count at least 6.

I won't shame my phone with another shot. Will leave it to you guys to take better pics.


Dee

Edvvc
April 12th, 2012, 11:48 AM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/7070272205_577cbac419_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070272205/)
Extreme Windowcleaning (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070272205/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 11:58 AM
Whoa! :cool:

I was wondering if that person in the pic I posted earlier was cleaning windows.

Misty2k
April 12th, 2012, 12:14 PM
The Crane section is coming down...

Cat man do
April 12th, 2012, 12:50 PM
Whoa! :cool:

I was wondering if that person in the pic I posted earlier was cleaning windows.

Can they really have enough water in their bucket!

mogwai83
April 12th, 2012, 01:24 PM
there's enough water in the sky today that he won't need to refill for several hours... throwing it down at the moment

NCT
April 12th, 2012, 01:42 PM
So, hypothesising that the canopy was a lit closer: you step off the bottom of the escalator and go to cross St Thomas Street.

What happens to the rain?

I think sheltering the escalators themselves is more important, since it's quite messy and dangerous riding one with an umbrella, though based on the diagram the shelter should be sufficient.

bertyboy
April 12th, 2012, 02:37 PM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/7070272205_577cbac419_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070272205/)
Extreme Windowcleaning (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070272205/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

See, if I was one of them, the windows below me would be dirtier than when I started.

flare
April 12th, 2012, 03:05 PM
the shot from the plane is awesome.. have to say, shard doesnt look too good in the nightshots.. i hope they have some kind of lighting solution in the works that emphasises its pointy shardiness some more

Agreed, it needs lighting going up the spine to emphasise the point.

ill tonkso
April 12th, 2012, 03:56 PM
There are some more canopies to go in yet.

http://www.teamlondonbridge.co.uk/newsdetails.aspx?ref=2005



There's nothing stopping you walking down or up an escalator. I always do :dunno:

Ah more canopies, got ya. Much better.

Regarding stairs, a lot of places offer a small staircase as well as escalators. I usually choose them as you usually get up there faster!

woodgnome
April 12th, 2012, 04:21 PM
London "Shard" homes create record price gap

-- Link to Reuters article (http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6E8ES53W20120412) --

LONDON, April 12 (Reuters) - The sale of ten apartments in London's Shard skyscraper this summer will break two records: they will be Europe's highest homes and will also create the world's most unequal neighbourhood for house prices, new research has shown.

The apartments are spread over 13 floors in the 1,017 feet-tall Renzo Piano-designed glass spire that has become the most dramatic addition to the capital's rapidly changing skyline.

The flats will likely sell for between 30 and 50 million pounds ($57 and $80 million) each and could attract buyers from Russia, the Middle East and Hong Kong.

This puts them in the same price bracket as One Hyde Park in the upmarket Knightsbridge area, Europe's priciest homes to date. The one-billion pound development with Candy and Candy-designed interiors is located near the Harrods department store.

At around 520 pounds per square foot, the average price in the SE1 postcode surrounding the 95-storey Shard is less than a tenth of the 5,000 to 6,000 pounds per square foot the new apartments are expected to fetch.

The district around the Shard on the south bank of the river Thames is not one of the capital's smartest, although it has come up in the world since the time when it served as a model for the slums in the novels of Charles Dickens.

"You don't get this pinnacle of value in relation to the surrounding district in any other city in the developed world," said Yolande Barnes, director of residential research at property consultancy Savills, which carried out the research for Reuters. "It's the equivalent of building the Shard in Harlem."

The Shard has divided opinion. Some see it as an excitingly modern London landmark, while the United Nations cultural body UNESCO said the Tower of London's world heritage status was at risk because the skyscraper compromised its "visual integrity" on the skyline.

There have also been complaints that from certain angles it dwarfs one of London's most famous landmarks, St Paul's cathedral.

Columnist Giles Coren, writing in The Times, described the Shard as an "engorged rectilinear monument to fat-cattism" that has been "dumped directly behind St Paul's".

The price gulf between the Shard and its environs is symptomatic of a two-tier London housing market that is fuelled at the top by wealthy overseas buyers seeking to benefit from the weakness of sterling and shield their money from global financial volatility.

Prices for the best central London properties have risen 44 percent in the last three years, more than twice the increase across the capital as a whole, property consultant Knight Frank said.

A growing number of foreign billionaires and a shrinking middle class could hurt the British economy by curbing social mobility, economists believe, producing an uneven distribution of wealth more typical of countries such as Nigeria or Brazil.

A study by the government's Department for Work and Pensions shows central London is Britain's most unequal region. It found that inner London had 30 percent of those in the poorest fifth of the population, 27 percent in the richest and just 12 percent in the middle bracket.

A spokesman for the Shard, which is being developed by London-based entrepreneur Irvine Sellar and funded by the state of Qatar, said it would act as "a magnet and catalyst for regeneration" and one local estate agent said its towering presence had already boosted interest in nearby homes.

"The Shard is a fantasy land of its own in a district with some pretty grotty areas," Sean Mcmahon of Field & Sons told Reuters. "It has definitely increased demand and brought in interest from overseas."

The flow of overseas money will benefit London by speeding up the regeneration of some areas, said Savills' Barnes, describing the Shard - which will also contain offices, a hotel, a spa, shops, restaurants and public viewing gallery - as "an international piece of real estate in a hitherto local market".

But developments only benefit their surrounding neighbourhood if they are not gated off or isolated and the regeneration of whole neighbourhoods can take years, she said. "It's one thing to achieve value at a great height but quite another at street level."

Edvvc
April 12th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Team xtreme clean is making another appearance on the east face. They look tiny in the full size photo.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/7070912937_d7c4dea7b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070912937/)
Team Xstream Clean's second appearance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070912937/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

wjfox
April 12th, 2012, 05:24 PM
London "Shard" homes create record price gap

-- Link to Reuters article (http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6E8ES53W20120412) --


Was gonna post this, but you beat me to it. :)

Misty2k
April 12th, 2012, 05:39 PM
Team xtreme clean is making another appearance on the east face. They look tiny in the full size photo.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/7070912937_d7c4dea7b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070912937/)
Team Xstream Clean's second appearance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7070912937/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

They still have 35 storeys to go down before they can stick their heads in an open window and ask for fresh water and a cup of tea (four sugars please, darlin') :)

scalatrava89
April 12th, 2012, 07:21 PM
^^ Absolutely amazing that photo. Having the window cleaners there really does show has massive the building is.

potto
April 12th, 2012, 07:31 PM
icon already?

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4474/harrodsn.jpg

boroughpaul
April 12th, 2012, 07:41 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/caffepaolo/7071279859/
From Empire square today. Crane eating crane? How do I upload pics on here from Fl;icky?

shard97
April 12th, 2012, 07:43 PM
HARRODS! What next? (do not take this as a superflous post)
Good pics. The x-treme team really does make the building seem huge. It is visable from Dartford Transport Complex!

potto
April 12th, 2012, 07:44 PM
when Fortnum & Mason package their tea with Shard motifs then we will know we have truly broken through.

bandy
April 12th, 2012, 07:54 PM
potto - what a beautifully manicured hand you have, I can almost see your face in the reflection from your nail :lol:

potto
April 12th, 2012, 07:56 PM
well if it was the weekend...

SO143
April 12th, 2012, 08:57 PM
icon already?

:lol:

Officer Dibble
April 12th, 2012, 09:01 PM
London "Shard" homes create record price gap

-- Link to Reuters article (http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6E8ES53W20120412) --

The sale of ten apartments in London's Shard skyscraper this summer will break two records: they will be Europe's highest homes

hooray for London!

and will also create the world's most unequal neighbourhood for house prices, new research has shown. [...] The flats will likely sell for between 30 and 50 million pounds ($57 and $80 million) each and could attract buyers from Russia, the Middle East and Hong Kong.

That is, admittedly, very pricey.

This puts them in the same price bracket as One Hyde Park in the upmarket Knightsbridge area, Europe's priciest homes to date. [...]

That's fantastic news for the London Bridge / Bermondsey area, and very healthy for London - the super-prime market is very over-concentrated in areas which have been established upmarket residential areas for decades or even centuries - really good to spread a bit of the joy to SE1.

At around 520 pounds per square foot, the average price in the SE1 postcode surrounding the 95-storey Shard is less than a tenth of the 5,000 to 6,000 pounds per square foot the new apartments are expected to fetch. [...]

Yes, but given how central it is and how well-connected it now is, it's looked undervalued for a while relative to other parts of London, and the Shard and the Place etc will help move it up - not just in terms of property values but also in the quality of shops and other services available. Those wealthy buyers won't be dining out on cheap kebabs.

Columnist Giles Coren [...]

is an idiot.

The price gulf between the Shard and its environs is symptomatic of a two-tier London housing market [...] A growing number of foreign billionaires and a shrinking middle class could hurt the British economy by curbing social mobility, economists believe, producing an uneven distribution of wealth more typical of countries such as Nigeria or Brazil. [...]

Okay so the very top of the market has gone crazy, so that it's now well out of the reach of normal Brits, even those with very handsome incomes. We're not making our own billionaires because we cater poorly to entrepreneurs - let's hope the government does more to remove the barriers and change the culture, and that some enterprising people rise to the challenge. But at least these billionaires from elsewhere want to live in London, and at least they're not just investing in SW1 and SW3.

It doesn't mean the middle class is shrinking - it may be tightening its belt a bit, but if anything it's surely still growing. It just means there's a rather larger layer of rich people above them.

And yes there are also big contrasts in wealth in places like Nigeria and Brazil, but London is very different. For one thing, the UK's generous welfare system means no one has to live in anything remotely like absolute poverty; for another, local discrepancies like that in SE1 always prove temporary - it's stark for a while when the tower or whatever that kick-starts or accelerates redevelopment arrives, but wider regeneration will inevitably follow. 1 Canada Square going up in c. 1990 was a similar case.

A spokesman for the Shard [...] said it would act as "a magnet and catalyst for regeneration" and one local estate agent said its towering presence had already boosted interest in nearby homes. [...]

The flow of overseas money will benefit London by speeding up the regeneration of some areas, said Savills' Barnes. [...]



Exactly. Rejoice.


But developments only benefit their surrounding neighbourhood if they are not gated off or isolated and the regeneration of whole neighbourhoods can take years, she said. "It's one thing to achieve value at a great height but quite another at street level."

Well yes obviously regenerating an area does take years.

But I don't think the isolated point (which is overstated in the quotation) applies here. LBQ isn't gated - we can all enjoy the new public spaces at ground level for free, and the improvements to London Bridge station. And if we're willing to spend a little money we can go into the Shard, buy a drink in the hotel bar, go up to the viewing galleries, etc.

Irish Blood English Heart
April 12th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Saying that it's still only a 5 minute walk (and about 250 yards) from 1CS and very poor areas north of the DLR in Poplar.

cybertect
April 12th, 2012, 11:57 PM
A few pics wot I took at lunch time today. :)



Just off Weston Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0031.jpg

and closer in

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0021.jpg



South side glass looking shiny

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0034.jpg

Shortly after there was some weird s**t light happening. Dark clouds directly above and to the south, but a fair sized break in the clouds to the north was allowing light to reflect back off their sides, reversing the normal expectation this side of the equator that daylight comes from the south.

Then we got a small window of sunlight peeking through from the south and the south side of the Shard was picked out by the bright clouds in reflection like a bright silver scalpel blade.

Everything went a bit Frank Miller for a few minutes :D

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0047.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0052.jpg


How the changing light affects the spire. The next two photos were taken barely half a minute apart.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0053.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0054.jpg



Cranes, cranes, cranes. Seem to be the theme of the day :)

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0068.jpg



North and East sides this evening

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0083.jpg


P.S. I can't wait for someone to clean off that black mark on the north side. I keep thinking that I've got dust on my slides ;)

Edvvc
April 13th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Breathtaking work, Rob. Thank you!

mitosan
April 13th, 2012, 12:56 AM
Taken in the afternoon on Thursday,

Click for enlargement:

http://pzm.i.jpgur.com/oyugo.jpg?size=3 (http://pzm.i.jpgur.com/oyugo.jpg)

lumberjack
April 13th, 2012, 01:41 AM
Amazing photos Rob!! Sorry in advance if this has been already posted.The telegraph are running a survey if readers like the Shard so far 78% are in favour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9198020/The-Shard-the-only-way-is-up.html

Let's show our support :cheers:

gegloma01
April 13th, 2012, 08:57 AM
base jump: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4254088/Daredevil-jumps-off-The-Shard-four-times.html

WhatIsBeauty
April 13th, 2012, 09:57 AM
Total loonbag should be jailed for breaching security.

scalatrava89
April 13th, 2012, 10:03 AM
Dan Witchalls is a famous base jumper. I'm very surprised that his last jump was July 2011, I thought the last breach was early 2011.

woodgnome
April 13th, 2012, 10:35 AM
More teeny, tiny, men-at-work.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/931/shardcleaners.jpg

cybertect
April 13th, 2012, 10:38 AM
Yes - a bit foggy this morning

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/20120413_0004.jpg

bandy
April 13th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Total loonbag should be jailed for breaching security.

Na!
The guy has done the security firm a favour....sack those incompetent dozy security guards who cant do a simple job properly.
If I was in need of security for whatever reason and I heard about this firm who has repeatedly slacked and failed I wouldn't even consider them.
Good work Dan.

Misty2k
April 13th, 2012, 10:43 AM
A few pics wot I took at lunch time today. :)
North and East sides this evening

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0083.jpg


P.S. I can't wait for someone to clean off that black mark on the north side. I keep thinking that I've got dust on my slides ;)

Stunning set. The "scaple blade" shots are particularly wonderful.

As for the black mark, it looks like the kit that the abseiling cleaners sit on (someone will confirm / deny / at least tell me the correct term for the thing they sit on at the end of a rope)

Misty2k
April 13th, 2012, 10:46 AM
...The telegraph are running a survey if readers like the Shard so far 78% are in favour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9198020/The-Shard-the-only-way-is-up.html

Let's show our support :cheers:

Over 79% now, not just thanks to my vote I assume.

I love that the third option is "Haven't noticed it"... To that 5% I say "LOOK UP FROM YOUR FRAKING iPHONE FOR 20 SECONDS, NUMB NUTS!!"


Dee :)

thedurringtondoctor
April 13th, 2012, 11:09 AM
Over 79% now, not just thanks to my vote I assume.

I love that the third option is "Haven't noticed it"... To that 5% I say "LOOK UP FROM YOUR FRAKING iPHONE FOR 20 SECONDS, NUMB NUTS!!"


Dee :)

Only 1,232 people have voted. How many millions read the Telegraph???

chip1e
April 13th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Stunning set. The "scaple blade" shots are particularly wonderful.

As for the black mark, it looks like the kit that the abseiling cleaners sit on (someone will confirm / deny / at least tell me the correct term for the thing they sit on at the end of a rope)


Its a Bosuns chair.

http://www.liftingsafety.co.uk/category/bosuns-chair-suspension-seats-1085.html

Willrocks10
April 13th, 2012, 11:34 AM
[QUOTE=cybertect;90377052]A few pics wot I took at lunch time today. :)



Just off Weston Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0031.jpg

Are they going to put glass on the line where there is no glass down this side of the Shard?

bertyboy
April 13th, 2012, 11:40 AM
[QUOTE=cybertect;90377052]A few pics wot I took at lunch time today. :)



Just off Weston Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120412_0031.jpg

Are they going to put glass on the line where there is no glass down this side of the Shard?

The remaining glazing to go in is to the section where the hoist is currently, where the crane mounts/ties are and the odd broken panel. The open frame on the spire will not get glazing - it is designed to be open. It is not supposed to look like an enclosed pyramid (otherwise, it wouldn't be very...."Shard-y").

cybertect
April 13th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Its a Bosuns chair.

http://www.liftingsafety.co.uk/category/bosuns-chair-suspension-seats-1085.html

No, it's definitely a splodge of something on the surface of the glass. Been there for a while.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/splodge.jpg

Yorkshire Boy
April 13th, 2012, 12:04 PM
icon already?

'Shame the shard happens to be on the same side of the river as the Gherkin... :shifty: Artistic licence I suppose!

Misty2k
April 13th, 2012, 12:05 PM
No, it's definitely a splodge of something on the surface of the glass. Been there for a while.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/splodge.jpg

Thanks for the close up. Yes, does need a scrub.

By the way, what are those red things?






:lol:KIDDING!!:lol:

Edvvc
April 13th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Cleaners in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQv1ZGXaIro

Cat man do
April 13th, 2012, 12:37 PM
No, it's definitely a splodge of something on the surface of the glass. Been there for a while.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/splodge.jpg

Its probably a base jumper.

shard97
April 13th, 2012, 12:52 PM
Its probably a base jumper's excrement. ..........................:banana:..........................

Gavrosh
April 13th, 2012, 02:18 PM
..........................:banana:..........................

That's a very inappropriate use of a banana there, young man.

Medenine
April 13th, 2012, 04:14 PM
That's a very inappropriate use of a banana there, young man.

I never knew bananas could.. er .. erm

... nevermind... :ohno:

SO143
April 13th, 2012, 04:55 PM
i don't get your joke .. banana looks fine imo :)

Taller London
April 13th, 2012, 05:01 PM
i think there talking about what happens when a man / banana get very excited. you usably need a wet wipe :lol:

Skydoggy
April 13th, 2012, 05:44 PM
:wtf:

Interestedamateur
April 13th, 2012, 05:46 PM
What's the furthest anyone's actually seen the shard from? Box Hill? Somewhere on the chilterns? We need answers...

cybertect
April 13th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Leith Hill is my personal record for Shard spotting, about 30 miles away.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=77061827&highlight=leith+hill#post77061827

bertyboy
April 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Box Hill would be pushing it a bit wouldn't it? Near Chippenham?

▼72▲
April 13th, 2012, 06:57 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7074111159_19ae860306_z.jpg

lumberjack
April 13th, 2012, 07:11 PM
At lunch...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7068/7074140917_94679d878b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7074140917/)
P4130031 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7074140917/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/6928046114_56153bb21a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928046114/)
P4130014 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928046114/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/6928044876_f30fc97d68_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928044876/)
P4130013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928044876/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/6928057610_1c8e0eae4d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928057610/)
P4130027 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928057610/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/6928055402_92c803ac2f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928055402/)
P4130026 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6928055402/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5346/7074138893_a62b2a5196_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7074138893/)
P4130029 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7074138893/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

chip1e
April 13th, 2012, 07:59 PM
No, it's definitely a splodge of something on the surface of the glass. Been there for a while.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/splodge.jpg

Thanks Cybertect

I Cat man do beat me to the answer, I too thought it was a base jumpers skid mark.
It does look like it is between the glass panels tho.
The Bosuns chair was in answer to misty2k as to what do you call those things they use to sit on to clean the windows.
And a big thank you from me for all your pics and to all of the others that post pics.

cybertect
April 13th, 2012, 08:21 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7074111159_19ae860306_z.jpg



Like :cool:

woodgnome
April 13th, 2012, 08:42 PM
From Dundee Wharf, this afternoon.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9977/1005167x1200.jpg

potto
April 13th, 2012, 08:44 PM
The cladding was looking sensational today around 3pm at medium distance, looking South, the north and west faces were lifted from the rest of the building so it literally did look like two individual shards of glistening glass leaning against each other...

shard97
April 13th, 2012, 09:03 PM
The TC looks so much like the origins of 20FC! When does anyone believe that the crane will be completely removed? An answer would be grateful rather than a medium lenght rant saying that it is a pointless post.

pingyao
April 13th, 2012, 09:12 PM
What's the furthest anyone's actually seen the shard from? Box Hill? Somewhere on the chilterns? We need answers...

I was in Whitstable Kent a few weeks back there was very clear weather. I'm pretty sure I could see the twin chimneys of the cement works in Gravesend some 30miles east. If I had binoculars I'd guess Littlebrook powerstation stack would be visible a further 4miles, the Shard is some 14miles beyond this. I would imagine somewhere along the Thames estuary would be the furthest visible point, Whitstable is probably pushing it though.

*Nurse*
April 13th, 2012, 10:44 PM
I was in Whitstable Kent a few weeks back there was very clear weather. I'm pretty sure I could see the twin chimneys of the cement works in Gravesend some 30miles east. If I had binoculars I'd guess Littlebrook powerstation stack would be visible a further 4miles, the Shard is some 14miles beyond this. I would imagine somewhere along the Thames estuary would be the furthest visible point, Whitstable is probably pushing it though.

In many cases Shooters Hill would get in the way, no?
I think the people living in this house in South Benfleet should be able to see it from their upstairs window 28.6 miles away. Perhaps if they are reading this... :)

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/benfleet.jpg

william_98
April 13th, 2012, 10:50 PM
What's the furthest anyone's actually seen the shard from? Box Hill? Somewhere on the chilterns? We need answers...

The furthest I've seen it is from my friends house in Chiswick.

Edvvc
April 13th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Another exciting video
http://youtu.be/hrkTa2G_DnI

spilltheds
April 13th, 2012, 11:27 PM
Great video Edvvc, I don't know how they bring themselves to do it.

SO143
April 13th, 2012, 11:27 PM
Another exciting video
http://youtu.be/hrkTa2G_DnI

does not london have robotic cleaning systems like in dubai?

http://www.constructionweekonline.com/pictures/Serbot-Clean-Ant.jpg

http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/pictures/gallery/Odd%20stuff/robot-cleaner.jpg

stevekeiretsu
April 14th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Columnist Giles Coren, writing in The Times, described the Shard as an "engorged rectilinear monument to fat-cattism" that has been "dumped directly behind St Paul's".


Funny, there was me thinking the Shard was in front / to the side of St Pauls.

The unthinking assumption underlying that quote is hilarious. Not all of us live in Hampstead, Giles.

stack1378
April 14th, 2012, 12:16 AM
Box Hill would be pushing it a bit wouldn't it? Near Chippenham?

I think Leith Hill is further out than Box Hill.

I know it's visible from Windsor Castle and the high ground around Camberley, so 25-30 miles out to the West. I'm certain there are places on high ground even further out that it could be seen from on a clear day.

Bpool86
April 14th, 2012, 03:30 AM
At lunch...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7068/7074140917_94679d878b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7074140917/)

Amazing picture. Looks like a render almost, if only the crane and platform weren't sticking out.

Definitely love the 'completed' sides more than the gaps as this angle shows well.

But at night for eg it could look amazing if they put loads of neon lights in amongst the steel so visible through the gaps, it could look great at the top with varying colours highlighting the steel structure inside....?

Snowy
April 14th, 2012, 09:41 AM
^^ What street is this, I don't recognise it? Looks very nice, some nice buildings and I always love a cobbled street!

Edvvc
April 14th, 2012, 09:47 AM
St. Mary at Hill (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.510267,-0.083382&spn=0.000958,0.002642&hnear=London,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.510163,-0.083424&panoid=YrIwAsj9528nufdUC47i5A&cbp=12,210.1,,0,-0.73)

teemac
April 14th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Box Hill would be pushing it a bit wouldn't it? Near Chippenham?

There is Box Hill near Chippenham (of Box Hill Tunnel fame) but the Box Hill referred to is Box Hill near Dorking, on the North Downs, a lot nearer to London.:)

Snowy
April 14th, 2012, 11:19 AM
St. Mary at Hill (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.510267,-0.083382&spn=0.000958,0.002642&hnear=London,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.510163,-0.083424&panoid=YrIwAsj9528nufdUC47i5A&cbp=12,210.1,,0,-0.73)

Thanks!

bertyboy
April 14th, 2012, 12:51 PM
There is Box Hill near Chippenham (of Box Hill Tunnel fame) but the Box Hill referred to is Box Hill near Dorking, on the North Downs, a lot nearer to London.:)

Ah...thought it seemed a bit optimistic to see the Shard from there. If it were the Burj Kalifa in Southwark, maybe! ;)

huge
April 14th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Another exciting video
http://youtu.be/hrkTa2G_DnI

That's totally crazy!
What a job!
Are they paid minimum wage? :lol:

huge
April 14th, 2012, 02:38 PM
I think Leith Hill is further out than Box Hill.

I know it's visible from Windsor Castle and the high ground around Camberley, so 25-30 miles out to the West. I'm certain there are places on high ground even further out that it could be seen from on a clear day.

Leith Hill is 26 miles away, while Box Hill is "just" 20.

Windsor is 22,5 miles away to the West.

Officer Dibble
April 14th, 2012, 03:55 PM
FT column: Who needs the Shard when you have Shakespeare? (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c10363e-83ca-11e1-82ca-00144feab49a.html#axzz1s1SofZqk)

jonnyboy
April 14th, 2012, 04:35 PM
we can have both shakespear and tall buildings can't we?

Officer Dibble
April 14th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Yes. I think the whole article is nonsense.

SO143
April 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM
utter nonsense :rant:

▼72▲
April 14th, 2012, 06:06 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/6930773346_d275be556d_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/6930775286_b234459ab1_z.jpg

potto
April 14th, 2012, 06:11 PM
FT column: Who needs the Shard when you have Shakespeare? (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c10363e-83ca-11e1-82ca-00144feab49a.html#axzz1s1SofZqk)

I am very glad i don't have access :lol:

I'm liking your project of b&w interpretations "72"

Core Rising
April 14th, 2012, 06:44 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544766_10151504573510541_787295540_23803403_49157672_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/542035_10151504574105541_787295540_23803408_1122984313_n.jpg

bandy
April 14th, 2012, 07:16 PM
That's totally crazy!
What a job!
Are they paid minimum wage? :lol:

I bet these guys are making a killing!
The average window cleaner (self employed) in britain makes around £1000 a week!
Even though these guys will be working for a firm, im sure they're making more than that...

i_like_concrete
April 14th, 2012, 07:34 PM
From this morning

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7077101011_0984e34a19_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5113/6931023072_01d343ffea_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6931024270_02dc87ea5d_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7255/7077105085_8729c81e3d_b.jpg

pingyao
April 14th, 2012, 08:16 PM
From about 1 half hours ago.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7382/imgp3302w.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4629/imgp3305m.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8140/imgp3307gz.jpg

SO143
April 14th, 2012, 08:32 PM
:bow: IMPRESSIVE

potto
April 15th, 2012, 12:00 AM
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8011/kw0c0743.jpg

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4392/kw0c0723.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1386/kw0c0753.jpg

SO143
April 15th, 2012, 12:08 AM
CITY OF CRANES :omg:

thank you very much potto. your pictures are brilliant and they don't have show any noise although they were taken at night, extraordinary :uh:

cybertect
April 15th, 2012, 12:09 AM
That's very pretty with all the park lights.

Parliament Hill?

ReissOmari
April 15th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Beautiful night captures, BT Tower looks huge!

potto
April 15th, 2012, 12:12 AM
Primrose Hill, I got there too late to get the early evening light

cybertect
April 15th, 2012, 12:15 AM
Bunch of photos taken yesterday, more in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard/)


Samuel Bourne Bevington, the first Mayor of Bermondsey, and a misty morning Shard

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0009.jpg


Lunchtime - Leathermarket Gardens

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0019.jpg

TC is getting lower...

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0027.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0034.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0041.jpg


SW corner

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0049.jpg


One of the TC sections being dropped to horizontal at Gate 1 on St Thomas Street

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0048.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0051.jpg


N.B. they're erecting a new hoarding just in front of the line of white columns

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0053.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0060.jpg



Shard and the GLA Building

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120413_0064.jpg

SO143
April 15th, 2012, 12:19 AM
Primrose Hill, I got there too late to get the early evening light

i went to primrose hill last year but i didn't find that park and the pics i shot look like they were taken from completely different angles. can you please tell me the nearest tube station to this park and is this the best location/angle to capture the entire london skyline? cheers mate, we are very lucky to enjoy these outstanding pictures :cheers:

potto
April 15th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Umm at the junction of Primrose Hill Road and Regents Park Road, is near the bottom of a small hill which takes 5 mins to walk up and has the good vantage point. Nearest tubes are Chalk Farm or Camden Town

*Nurse*
April 15th, 2012, 12:44 AM
This may sound like a stupid question, but are those crane pieces reused like that, or do they get melted down and new ones made each time?

SO143
April 15th, 2012, 12:47 AM
Umm at the junction of Primrose Hill Road and Regents Park Road, is near the bottom of a small hill which takes 5 mins to walk up and has the good vantage point. Nearest tubes are Chalk Farm or Camden Town

i will go there when i come to london during the olympic :cool:

@cybertect great shots as always, thx you both

bertyboy
April 15th, 2012, 01:08 AM
This may sound like a stupid question, but are those crane pieces reused like that, or do they get melted down and new ones made each time?

Why would the melt them down? They're perfectly good for the next job.

chip1e
April 15th, 2012, 10:55 AM
This may sound like a stupid question, but are those crane pieces reused like that, or do they get melted down and new ones made each time?

They are sand blasted to remove the paint then inspected for any cracks or broken welds and if OK they are re-painted and re used.

*Nurse*
April 15th, 2012, 01:42 PM
They are sand blasted to remove the paint then inspected for any cracks or broken welds and if OK they are re-painted and re used.

Ah, ok, thanks. That makes sense. They always seem bright and shiny as if brand new, and they couldn't be painted over repeatedly.

Willrocks10
April 15th, 2012, 07:13 PM
[QUOTE=Willrocks10;90389915]

The remaining glazing to go in is to the section where the hoist is currently, where the crane mounts/ties are and the odd broken panel. The open frame on the spire will not get glazing - it is designed to be open. It is not supposed to look like an enclosed pyramid (otherwise, it wouldn't be very...."Shard-y").

Thanks! :)

idolvice
April 15th, 2012, 08:57 PM
[QUOTE=bertyboy;90390040]

Thanks! :)

It should look better at the top though than now as the floor plates in the open section will be all white and the fences would be removed.

From some of the renders you can see that there is an area in the observatory that is open to the elements

http://lh6.ggpht.com/-WmYZRuUskeY/TzfQsArSf8I/AAAAAAAAAHY/cnzhogB1lvc/sharddeck_thumb%25255B5%25255D.jpg

AlexsAmazingIpad
April 15th, 2012, 09:10 PM
When is the red strip down the south side going to be exchanged for glazing? Looks horrible and isn't the crane used so with that being taken down how will they do it???

stevekeiretsu
April 15th, 2012, 11:02 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7211/7081349641_28f94473c7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevekeiretsu/7081349641/)
Shard and City skyline from Brockwell Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevekeiretsu/7081349641/) by stevekeiretsu (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevekeiretsu/), on Flickr

just posted this in the 'london skyline' thread, don't like to repeat myself too much but I rather like this one so here it is again

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/7081350135_58b3266a92_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevekeiretsu/7081350135/)
Shard and City skyline from Brockwell Park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevekeiretsu/7081350135/) by stevekeiretsu (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevekeiretsu/), on Flickr

TheatreTechie1989
April 15th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Hi all, been a member and browsed this thread for some time now, but this is my first post, so hello! :-)

I live in Westcliff on Sea, Essex, and even though it was pretty cloudy today, was able to see the Shard and the Canary Wharf complex quite clearly with the naked eye from Leigh. Unfortunately today happened to be the one day I didn't have my camera with me!

Anyway, I hope everyone's well, and I'm enjoying reading through this thread! :-)

potto
April 15th, 2012, 11:35 PM
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/947/kw0c0936.jpg

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1966/kw0c0952.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8025/kw0c0940.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8043/kw0c0974.jpg

lumberjack
April 15th, 2012, 11:38 PM
Sunday afternoon - Wimbledon.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6935470078_ddc76a3daf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6935470078/)
IMG_8978 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6935470078/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7271/7081547993_3983150838_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7081547993/)
IMG_8980 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7081547993/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6935483322_80d5ab2876_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6935483322/)
DSC03881 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6935483322/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5446/7081550967_cf2bb3e3dd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7081550967/)
Panorama1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7081550967/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

*Nurse*
April 15th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Hi all, been a member and browsed this thread for some time now, but this is my first post, so hello! :-)

I live in Westcliff on Sea, Essex, and even though it was pretty cloudy today, was able to see the Shard and the Canary Wharf complex quite clearly with the naked eye from Leigh. Unfortunately today happened to be the one day I didn't have my camera with me!

Anyway, I hope everyone's well, and I'm enjoying reading through this thread! :-)

Wow, that's much further than I thought possible. Do you think it could be seen from Southend Pier?

CD.
April 16th, 2012, 12:09 AM
Panorama1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7081550967/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

The meandering of the Thames is quite apparent in this pic!
Shard to the London Eye, back to St. Georges's Tower, then back to Battersea power station. Great shot.

Darloeye
April 16th, 2012, 12:34 AM
Hi all, been a member and browsed this thread for some time now, but this is my first post, so hello! :-)

I live in Westcliff on Sea, Essex, and even though it was pretty cloudy today, was able to see the Shard and the Canary Wharf complex quite clearly with the naked eye from Leigh. Unfortunately today happened to be the one day I didn't have my camera with me!

Anyway, I hope everyone's well, and I'm enjoying reading through this thread! :-)

Hello. :wave:

▼72▲
April 16th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Perfect lighting scheme for the Shard; or perhaps just the very digital Crystal Palace mast
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/7081674017_7298f6ed74_c.jpg

TheatreTechie1989
April 16th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Wow, that's much further than I thought possible. Do you think it could be seen from Southend Pier?

Yeah, most probably. Would have to be bloody clear though. Not seen it as clear as today for ages.

At night, or on very overcast days you can see the aircraft warning light of One Canada Square, but that's about it usually! :-) Will have to persuade the other half to take a walk on the pier with me one day, just to Shard-spot! Haha!

Where I saw it from today was in the little cul-de-sac bit on the corner of Marine Parade and Tattersall Gardens in Leigh on Sea (sorry, not sure how to post co-ordinates from a map!).

Hello. :wave:

Hi! :-) :wave:

Interestedamateur
April 16th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Love those shots from Potto, specially the ones that look like some of the early renders! Farringdon looking good too.

traveling dude
April 16th, 2012, 04:06 AM
Will they cover the whole tower with glass? It looks hard to do at the very top.

*Nurse*
April 16th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Where I saw it from today was in the little cul-de-sac bit on the corner of Marine Parade and Tattersall Gardens in Leigh on Sea (sorry, not sure how to post co-ordinates from a map!).


I asked my friend Google, and he said it was 30.78 miles. Farthest so far!

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/leigh1.jpg

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/leigh2.jpg

Misty2k
April 16th, 2012, 12:06 PM
Team Extreme are on the North Face so I think the nasty black splodge, pet peeve of CyberTect will have been wiped off now.

It really is looking super shiney now. My phone won't capture it, but the reflections of these fluffy cumulus clouds is gorgeous from my desk on Tooley Street.

Walsh
April 16th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Perfect lighting scheme for the Shard; or perhaps just the very digital Crystal Palace mast
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/7081674017_7298f6ed74_c.jpg

is that actually lit like that??

CD.
April 16th, 2012, 01:24 PM
It's illuminated like that to celebrate the turning off of the final analogue TV signal on April 18th.

lumberjack
April 16th, 2012, 01:36 PM
Walked past this morning and they're cleaning the windows again...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/6937491832_3fa0f638db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937491832/)
P4160052 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937491832/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

rhidian7
April 16th, 2012, 01:47 PM
Those guys are MENTAL!

SO143
April 16th, 2012, 01:50 PM
how much do they get paid per hour? they're fearless :shocked:

Misty2k
April 16th, 2012, 01:56 PM
No, it's definitely a splodge of something on the surface of the glass. Been there for a while.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/splodge.jpg

Correction: Only half the splodge has gone. Rob, you'll have to put up with it until at least the afternoon shift apparently.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/Half_Splodge.jpg

Detail snipped from Lumberjack's picture above.


Dee

bangyuk
April 16th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sunday afternoon - Wimbledon.



I got a much worse photo from the same spot on Sunday. Were you visiting the Songkram celebrations at the Thai temple?!

bangyuk
April 16th, 2012, 02:55 PM
how much do they get paid per hour? they're fearless :shocked:

I think they should be made to pay for the privelege. After all, you pay to use a climbing wall . . . or perhaps they could be sponsored? :lol:

Edvvc
April 16th, 2012, 03:07 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/7083762047_7d25dd824c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7083762047/)
North face cleaners (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7083762047/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/6937688398_3636b98f0f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6937688398/)
The Splodge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6937688398/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

lumberjack
April 16th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Monday lunchtime... ok so .... do they get a toilet break??

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/6937794480_e65ae986f0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937794480/)
P4160063 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937794480/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5463/6937794774_aa6baec354_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937794774/)
P4160064 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6937794774/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

One of my fav views...

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5076/7083867595_527fd0ea31_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7083867595/)
P4160062 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/7083867595/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

CarMadMike
April 16th, 2012, 04:15 PM
Is the panel missing on your first picture lj missing for a reason? (On the same row as the cleaners are on, to the right)

My OCD kicks in about these things haha.

bertyboy
April 16th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Is the panel missing on your first picture lj missing for a reason? (On the same row as the cleaners are on, to the right)

My OCD kicks in about these things haha.

There's a fair few broken panels that need replacing.

Misty2k
April 16th, 2012, 05:05 PM
Is the panel missing on your first picture lj missing for a reason? (On the same row as the cleaners are on, to the right)

My OCD kicks in about these things haha.

There's a fair few broken panels that need replacing.

If I recall (and this is the side I see all day from work) that panel has never been put in, i.e. it hasn't been broken.


Dee

smurnov
April 16th, 2012, 07:15 PM
it really is a beautiful building.:applause:

TheatreTechie1989
April 16th, 2012, 08:25 PM
I asked my friend Google, and he said it was 30.78 miles. Farthest so far!

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/leigh1.jpg

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h382/nurse_B/leigh2.jpg

Wow! Didn't realise it's that far! Am going to try and go to the same spot with my camera over the next few days to try and get some pics. May also see if I can spend some time on Southend seafront to see if the Shard can be viewed from there. :)

awesome2000
April 16th, 2012, 09:02 PM
Can they really have enough water in their bucket!

Monday lunchtime... ok so .... do they get a toilet break??


There's your answer

Cat man do
April 16th, 2012, 09:20 PM
^^ Yes of course! And so environmentally friendly too! Proves the Shard's green credentials (well yellow anyway)

Edvvc
April 16th, 2012, 10:52 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7126/6939091368_b87cafc668_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6939091368/)
April 16 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6939091368/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

Glom
April 16th, 2012, 11:22 PM
You can see it well on the approach to Willesden Junction. Really need that crane to go in order to be able to make a proper judgement.

SO143
April 16th, 2012, 11:33 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7126/6939091368_b87cafc668_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6939091368/)
April 16 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6939091368/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

stunning shot mate, did you use a tripod?

Edvvc
April 17th, 2012, 12:00 AM
stunning shot mate, did you use a tripod?
Thanks, yes a tripod is essential with a 1.6 second exposure.

cybertect
April 17th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Busy day - Just a few photos grabbed at both ends of it

first thing: East side from London Bridge Station

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0001.jpg


morning light on the north side

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0014.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0015.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0016.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0022.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0024.jpg


Reflection in 7 More London

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0030.jpg


This evening - SW corner

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0036.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120416_0037.jpg


St Thomas Street joiner

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/shardJoiner_stThomasStreet.jpg

Aspidistra
April 17th, 2012, 01:31 AM
how much do they get paid per hour? they're fearless :shocked:

I climb mountains for fun. I would totally do that job for money.

SkyscraperSuperman
April 17th, 2012, 02:40 AM
I saw the Shard and the rest of the London skyline from Thorpe Park today (well, technically yesterday...) - you get a great view of London if you look to the left at the start of the new 'Swarm' rollercoaster. Obviously Thorpe Park's not as far from Central London as the photo above, but it was still good to see the Shard and appreciate just how much of a mark it's made on the skyline.

Schmeek
April 17th, 2012, 10:10 AM
Great pics there cyber. I'm particularly loving the ones with no crane visible from the north side - looks so much better without the clutter - and the ones nearer the bottom before the stitch, really show the complexity and originality of the design which is lost from afar.

mogwai83
April 17th, 2012, 11:51 AM
From a brief walk around Wapping yesterday...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/7086816057_8772feb7db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7086816057/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7086816057/) by Docklandsboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogwai_83/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/6940747586_ed75be2479_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/6940747586/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/6940747586/) by Docklandsboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogwai_83/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/7086817167_738585cb32_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7086817167/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7086817167/) by Docklandsboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogwai_83/), on Flickr

Edvvc
April 17th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Cleaners are out on the North side again and I can't see the splodge from here, but that might just be due to the angle. Misty, can you see?

cybertect
April 17th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Popped out at lunch time and took a few photos before being beaten back by a hail storm!

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0001.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0003.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0016.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0023.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0025.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120417_0029.jpg

CD.
April 17th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Obviously the couple in the 2nd last can't read the sign in the last.

Cat man do
April 17th, 2012, 04:09 PM
I love the way 'Shard' has become a defacto official name. I doubt you see or wil see public signs to the Guirkin or Cheese Grater.

Edvvc
April 17th, 2012, 05:31 PM
It's cold, very windy and hailing down on the ground. I don't envy Team Xtreme Clean right now :ohno:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5159/6941506516_75a7ed8e97_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6941506516/)
Rather them than me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/6941506516/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

gothicform
April 17th, 2012, 06:42 PM
here we are with a few recent pics

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic37.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic38.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic39.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic41.jpg

SO143
April 17th, 2012, 06:45 PM
:omg: :shocked: the last pic blows me away :D

pingyao
April 17th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Yeah stunning light, shame it wasn't landscape - it would of become my new desktop.

edtealdi
April 17th, 2012, 08:13 PM
I wonder when we can expect the boom and rest of the tower crane to be taken down by the derrick crane. It is the next step, right? Or does the TC need to go down more?

Cranesetc
April 17th, 2012, 08:54 PM
The tower crane still has to go down a few sections before the derrick can do the dismantle.

The Shard Baby
April 17th, 2012, 09:00 PM
I don't think this was ever posted:
http://www.tagfinearts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/i/till_-_s_shard_1.jpg
http://www.tagfinearts.com/tobias-till/s-shard.html

Cat man do
April 17th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Nice pic .. but hate to say this, British Rail logo is wrong way round :} Ok - I'm being a pedant (aka a DH)!

Horizon911
April 17th, 2012, 09:52 PM
Is there a flashing red light on the top now? I'm about 15 miles away from the building and can see a light from the direction of the shard.

lumberjack
April 17th, 2012, 10:16 PM
A quick walk past ....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/6942233470_84a71c2b3b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6942233470/)
P4170080 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47769294@N03/6942233470/) by Lumberjack_London (http://www.flickr.com/people/47769294@N03/), on Flickr

billrob
April 17th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Is there a flashing red light on the top now? I'm about 15 miles away from the building and can see a light from the direction of the shard.

It's most likely the light on the crane.

Horizon911
April 17th, 2012, 10:28 PM
Seems too bright, especially at this distance, for it to be a crane light.

▼72▲
April 17th, 2012, 11:17 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/7088515411_8d7da80d45_z.jpg

Edvvc
April 17th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Is there a flashing red light on the top now? I'm about 15 miles away from the building and can see a light from the direction of the shard.
There's a solid (non-flashing) red light on the tip of the tower crane, roughly level with the tip of the spire. There's also a much dimmer white light flashing lower down on the same crane.

Horizon911
April 18th, 2012, 12:03 AM
I'm seeing a pulsating red light from the exact place where the Shard is, perhaps it is the crane light and perhaps all the rain is making the light seem to flash. But its one very powerful crane light if I can see it from this distance.

rickster2k
April 18th, 2012, 12:04 AM
There's a solid (non-flashing) red light on the tip of the tower crane, roughly level with the tip of the spire. There's also a much dimmer white light flashing lower down on the same crane.

White flashing crane light is anti-collision light - shows system is off.

Horizon911
April 18th, 2012, 12:08 AM
Interesting, but it's defiantly red. The light is shimmering like a star, and its not the Crystal Palace tower before someone mentions that.

Edit: Just had a look on the cams (should have done that earlier!) and there is red lighting at the top of the Shard as well as the crane light, so that's what I'm seeing.

http://i44.tinypic.com/117td7o.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/velnjp.jpg

bccscl
April 18th, 2012, 12:21 AM
▼72▲, i love your photos, is there a flickr album one can see?

jandow77
April 18th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Interesting, but it's defiantly red. The light is shimmering like a star, and its not the Crystal Palace tower before someone mentions that.

Edit: Just had a look on the cams (should have done that earlier!) and there is red lighting at the top of the Shard as well as the crane light, so that's what I'm seeing.

http://i44.tinypic.com/117td7o.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/velnjp.jpg

[obsessive] Sadly I suspect this is confirmation that the Shard won't be topped with flashing xenon strobes as suggested in the promo vid. I was secretly hoping it would take up the mantle from 1CS which has been without its dual-lighting system for some time now [\obsessive]

CarMadMike
April 18th, 2012, 01:08 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131004/London-Shard-Fearless-window-cleaners-abseil-Europes-tallest-building.html

The DM have an article on 'Team Extreme Clean'

Eastern37
April 18th, 2012, 02:18 AM
I love the way 'Shard' has become a defacto official name. I doubt you see or wil see public signs to the Guirkin or Cheese Grater.

Thats because the "Shard" IS the official name of this building ;) Gherkin and Cheese Grater are nicknames. :)

Edvvc
April 18th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Edit: Just had a look on the cams (should have done that earlier!) and there is red lighting at the top of the Shard as well as the crane light, so that's what I'm seeing.
I have never seen either of those flashing. They certainly weren't when I looked out the window last night.

mogwai83
April 18th, 2012, 09:52 AM
Pan Peninsular was doing a funky pre-olympic disco light show last night, any chance it was that?

mogwai83
April 18th, 2012, 10:02 AM
Looking moody from Wapping...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7062/7089801651_a8dab47d6a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7089801651/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogwai_83/7089801651/) by Docklandsboy (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogwai_83/), on Flickr

Misty2k
April 18th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Cleaners are out on the North side again and I can't see the splodge from here, but that might just be due to the angle. Misty, can you see?

Sorry, just when I could have been useful and I was "working from home" yesterday and again today...

SE9
April 18th, 2012, 12:33 PM
Will the Shard have a white flashing aircraft warning light up top like One Canada Square? (as suggested by a promo video a while back)

Cat man do
April 18th, 2012, 12:33 PM
Thats because the "Shard" IS the official name of this building ;) Gherkin and Cheese Grater are nicknames. :)

Shard started out as a nickname, as documented on here it was used and possibly coined by English Heritage. It is therefore a nickname (and one used in a derogatory manner) that has become official.

edtealdi
April 18th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Will the Shard have a white flashing aircraft warning light up top like One Canada Square? (as suggested by a promo video a while back)

I think yes as it is required for buildings over a certain height.

Madman
April 18th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Shard started out as a nickname, as documented on here it was used and possibly coined by English Heritage. It is therefore a nickname (and one used in a derogatory manner) that has become official.

It was used repeatedly in the early descriptions of the building by the design team - "shards of glass".

hugh
April 18th, 2012, 08:38 PM
It may be in addition, but EH referred to The Shard as 'a spike through the heart of historic London'.

jandow77
April 18th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Will the Shard have a white flashing aircraft warning light up top like One Canada Square? (as suggested by a promo video a while back)

Well from the look of it, no. Strobes were gradually phased out in the UK during the mid 2000s, although a handful of exceptions remain, 1CS being the only example I can think of in England. I suspect the promo vid was just artistic licence to give the whole thing maximum impact.

I often wonder how long the strobes on 1CS have left. Perhaps the proximity to City Airport gives them a say of execution.

Cat man do
April 18th, 2012, 11:35 PM
What is the objection to strobes - are they considered annoying? Saw Dubai in a video and it looks great with so many flashing red lights.

traveling dude
April 18th, 2012, 11:58 PM
Will they take the crane down soon?

Glom
April 18th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Rr

jandow77
April 19th, 2012, 12:06 AM
What is the objection to strobes - are they considered annoying? Saw Dubai in a video and it looks great with so many flashing red lights.

I am really quite unsure as to the exact reason for their withdrawal and I've never been able to find any amendments or NOTAMs in CAA literature to explain it (yes, I am that sad).

It is suggested that the reason is EU compliance, but go to France, Germany or Belgium, for example, and they are still in widespread use. In the US, even the puniest mobile phone towers have them.

I suspect there's an element of British restraint and NIMBYism involved in our case though. Strobes can be a visual nuisance to those living nearby, although I stuggle to see who lives 309m above ground level in the Shard's case.

woodgnome
April 19th, 2012, 01:43 AM
View of the Olympic Park looking west.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6045/120416locogac051crop.jpg

Cropped from picture taken on 16 April 2012 by Anthony Charlton for LOCOG.

SO143
April 19th, 2012, 01:48 AM
i like the way london is building the skyscrapers, but a lot of works still need to be done and more residential highrises need to be built in order to get a good density. aquatic centre is looking stunning, and the orbit looks hot as hell :D love them both! and the shard <3

cjdavis83
April 19th, 2012, 01:50 AM
The view from the Orbit Tower must be nice then :)
I can also see the Pinnacle stump as well in that photo!

SO143
April 19th, 2012, 01:57 AM
it's a shame that the tower 42 is hiding somewhere :sad2:

hugh
April 19th, 2012, 04:16 AM
I am really quite unsure as to the exact reason for their withdrawal and I've never been able to find any amendments or NOTAMs in CAA literature to explain it (yes, I am that sad).

It is suggested that the reason is EU compliance, but go to France, Germany or Belgium, for example, and they are still in widespread use. In the US, even the puniest mobile phone towers have them.

I suspect there's an element of British restraint and NIMBYism involved in our case though. Strobes can be a visual nuisance to those living nearby, although I stuggle to see who lives 309m above ground level in the Shard's case.

Minutiae perhaps but I agree, a white strobe a la OCS adds considerable dramatic effect. I'll be disappointed if the Shard doesn't have one. Incidentally, I'm hard pushed to think of any other buildings - Stateside or elsewhere - where they're used on buildings.

Misty2k
April 19th, 2012, 02:21 PM
It's quiet here today isn't it?

In actual news, Team Extreme were out in the rain earlier, mostly working on the Righthand "flying" shard of the North Face. Only 5 guys today so maybe someone rang in sick today?


Dee

jandow77
April 19th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Minutiae perhaps but I agree, a white strobe a la OCS adds considerable dramatic effect. I'll be disappointed if the Shard doesn't have one. Incidentally, I'm hard pushed to think of any other buildings - Stateside or elsewhere - where they're used on buildings.

In the UK, the only other instances I can think of are in Scotland - Longannet power station and the Fourth Road Bridge. In the US, the Conde Nast building in NY would be an example.

bertyboy
April 19th, 2012, 04:14 PM
It's quiet here today isn't it?

Well, the Shard is complete to all intents. We're waiting for the next, bigger London skyscraper to come along now! ;)

Edvvc
April 19th, 2012, 04:15 PM
Not enough pictures being posted, so here's one taken just now after all the earlier rain has passed:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7093426487_a10771d648_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7093426487/)
April 19 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54481577@N07/7093426487/) by Hans Pfaal (http://www.flickr.com/people/54481577@N07/), on Flickr

shard97
April 19th, 2012, 06:05 PM
is there anything taller planned for London?

danm
April 19th, 2012, 06:25 PM
is there anything taller planned for London?

Nope.

The Pinnacle is the next tallest building under construction (or on hold as it is now!). Nothing planned to be taller than the Shard at the moment.

stevekeiretsu
April 19th, 2012, 09:40 PM
Shard started out as a nickname, as documented on here it was used and possibly coined by English Heritage. It is therefore a nickname (and one used in a derogatory manner) that has become official.

I'm sure I read an interview with Piano which stated or at least implied that he came up with the phrase "shard of glass" himself at the outset, pretty much the starting point of his concept?

this interview/feature (http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2011/09/vertical-city.cfm) for example:


Piano wanted to create 'a shard of glass, a spire tower of angled planes of glass that will reflect light and the changing patterns of the sky so that it will change according to the weather and the seasons'.


Definitely seems to put those words in his mouth. Granted that is dated Sept 2011 by which time the name was obviously long settled, so maybe he or the journalist is revising history a little?

siberian dreamer
April 19th, 2012, 10:52 PM
I can't see anythin taller for at least 20 years, unfortunately. I'll be nearly 50... how depressing.

cybertect
April 19th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Team Extreme out on the North side after lunch

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120419_0044.jpg

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120419_0049.jpg

jandow77
April 19th, 2012, 11:31 PM
To make up for all the aircraft warning light talk for the last 24hrs, I went up my local hill and commanded that the weather give me spectacular storm lighting over London...

London then prompty disappeared behind a veil of fug, and I got cold and went home.

Nevertheless, I give you "The Shard at 36 miles".

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/6948443910_e927d5b3ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67412963@N04/6948443910/)
IMG_2986small (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67412963@N04/6948443910/) by shurst2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/67412963@N04/), on Flickr

hifive605
April 19th, 2012, 11:31 PM
^^^ these guys are literally like mountain abseilers, down a man-made glass mountain - love it..

SO143
April 19th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nevertheless, I give you "The Shard at 36 miles".

i believe london is bigger than both new york and paris!! thank you :okay:

cjdavis83
April 19th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Seems too bright, especially at this distance, for it to be a crane light.

I think it could well be an airplane warning light. It would be criminal for them NOT to have this on the tallest building in Western Europe surely???

Mickey28
April 20th, 2012, 12:05 AM
http://mickey028.sweb.cz/shard_01.jpg

After two years, I was in London again and here it is: "The king himself" :-)

lumberjack
April 20th, 2012, 12:34 AM
To make up for all the aircraft warning light talk for the last 24hrs, I went up my local hill and commanded that the weather give me spectacular storm lighting over London...

London then prompty disappeared behind a vale of fug, and I got cold and went home.

Nevertheless, I give you "The Shard at 36 miles".


Great photo thanks for posting!

hugh
April 20th, 2012, 01:01 AM
i believe london is bigger than both new york and paris!! thank you :okay:

SO143, the contributions you make to this forum are much appreciated, but when you add comments like that, it smacks of parochial insecurity.

Puzzler
April 20th, 2012, 01:09 AM
To make up for all the aircraft warning light talk for the last 24hrs, I went up my local hill and commanded that the weather give me spectacular storm lighting over London...

London then prompty disappeared behind a vale of fug, and I got cold and went home.

Nevertheless, I give you "The Shard at 36 miles".

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/6948443910_e927d5b3ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67412963@N04/6948443910/)
IMG_2986small (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67412963@N04/6948443910/) by shurst2011 (http://www.flickr.com/people/67412963@N04/), on Flickr

Where was this taken from?

(forgive me if I've missed the info somewhere)

SO143
April 20th, 2012, 04:35 AM
it would be absolutely amazing if the she gets a new lighting scheme like this

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=90615118&postcount=3840

cybertect
April 20th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Three snaps from my way into work this morning:

You can see the difference that Team Extreme have been making, cleaning the glazing at the top

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120420_0007.jpg


Two guys in a cage, apparently inspecting the base of the tower crane tie

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120420_0024.jpg


Spire from the southern end of Tower Bridge

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120420_0025.jpg

Misty2k
April 20th, 2012, 12:18 PM
Three snaps from my way into work this morning:

You can see the difference that Team Extreme have been making, cleaning the glazing at the top

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/Shard/20120420_0007.jpg


I'm sure it's not just my eyes, but do some of the divisions between the glazing look a bit wonky (sorry to use technical terms) towards the top where the spire begins. ^^

Edvvc
April 20th, 2012, 12:25 PM
I'm sure it's not just my eyes, but do some of the divisions between the glazing look a bit wonky (sorry to use technical terms) towards the top where the spire begins. ^^
Maybe they got their measurements mixed up between imperial and metric :lol:

bertyboy
April 20th, 2012, 12:55 PM
I'm sure it's not just my eyes, but do some of the divisions between the glazing look a bit wonky (sorry to use technical terms) towards the top where the spire begins. ^^

Yes. It's where the gap was when they glazed the spire before the main bit had caught up. Don't people use plumb lines these days?

Eastern37
April 20th, 2012, 01:12 PM
It looks like something wrong with the photo rather than the building to me. Dunno though.

Misty2k
April 20th, 2012, 01:14 PM
As the wash and brush up continues, the Backpack gets a good scrub.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/Untitled.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/Untitled-2.jpg

And some nice reflections.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/misty2k/Untitled-1.jpg

Pics by me on my, frankly, pretty poor HTC Sensation. Must start bringing a camera to work.


Dee

cybertect
April 20th, 2012, 01:39 PM
It looks like something wrong with the photo rather than the building to me. Dunno though.

The glazing bars are out of line, though the compressed perspective will exaggerate any errors.

*Nurse*
April 20th, 2012, 01:46 PM
Where was this taken from?

(forgive me if I've missed the info somewhere)

Windsor Castle?

randolph
April 20th, 2012, 01:47 PM
My dear Misty I found your FAQ really quite amusing! :)

cybertect
April 20th, 2012, 01:50 PM
My dear Misty I found your FAQ really quite amusing! :)

:D Me too.