It is not quality to be late. Every Trident´s projects are VERY late. They should you give their customers what customers want. That is quality.

which project in the marina was not one year late..

^^ MDs, MP, Jewels, Dorrabay etc etc... there are many

I still believe that Trident aims higher with their quality of external and internal design and finish than almost all other Dubai developers to date. That demands good materials, building and finishing trades - all of which are in short supply. It must be better for investors to be patient and get the best end product.

^^sure..

^^ MDs, MP, Jewels, Dorrabay etc etc... there are many

MDs were in fact. Jewels also, they were supposed to be ready 1st Q 07.

so not many imo, just a few... anyway, not worth the discussion.

Samir will u stay in the UAE?

24/Aug/2007

The Pentominium

still nothing here , Sulafa Tower workers use this plot now

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6023/imresolt052sp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6008/imresolt053bb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4971/imresolt054it9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/184/imresolt056gd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Still nothing.:ohno: Anyone have any idea of when Pentominium will get underway?

^^ In two Tuesdays

Its 2 weeks from Bank Holiday Monday actually.

Two weeks sounds good to me!:banana:

Thanks guys!:cheers:

Its 2 weeks from Bank Holiday Monday actually.

Ah yes, i'd forgotten about Bank Holiday Monday (we don't have it here in the States).

btw Tate- There's going to be a live broadcast of groundbreaking you won't want to miss.

btw Tate- There's going to be a live broadcast of groundbreaking you won't want to miss.

Where will this be broadcast?

^^ From the construction site of course.

This just in

Breaking news: they aren't starting in two weeks and there will be no broadcast :( Sorry. We can only hope for the future.

^^ From the construction site of course.

This just in
Breaking news: they aren't starting in two weeks and there will be no broadcast :( Sorry. We can only hope for the future.

Yes, I know the construction site, but I meant would it have been broadcast on any particular tv channel/network/website.

But nevermind, it doesn't matter now.:ohno: You don't have any idea of why it's been put back TowerPower? Thanks anyway.

F**k I was really looking forward to work starting on Pentominium!!!:bash:

^^ They were just screwing with you man.

^^ hmm....I'll bear that in mind....;)

Any news here?

A week without any posts? Must be the end of the world

^^ THIRTEEN days sinse there were any posts worth the time of day on here actually malec!

^^ THIRTEEN days sinse there were any posts worth the time of day on here actually malec!

Who cares. This project isn't started yet, so there is nothing to talk about. There haven't been any news releases to post, and the plot isn't currently under development so what would there be to post? It is appropriate that no posts are happening, since posting just for the sake of posting is useless. If there are any press releases, you can be sure that they will be posted, and if anything happens on the site Imre will let us know. In the meantime, why not let this thread sit idle so that people like me won't see people posting on it and get a false hope that an announcement has occured.

Thanks.

Who cares. This project isn't started yet, so there is nothing to talk about. There haven't been any news releases to post, and the plot isn't currently under development so what would there be to post? It is appropriate that no posts are happening, since posting just for the sake of posting is useless. If there are any press releases, you can be sure that they will be posted, and if anything happens on the site Imre will let us know. In the meantime, why not let this thread sit idle so that people like me won't see people posting on it and get a false hope that an announcement has occured.

Thanks.

Hollie Maea, I know/understand all that, and I agree with you, I just asked earlier if there was any news or updates on this project that's all! I don't see how asking a simple question makes some people want to jump out of their skin!?

I had asked before and all I got was mindless drivel, so why am I even surprised?!

So if you agree why are you posting just for the sake of it? 690+ posts since June? Geez.

good Q

So if you agree why are you posting just for the sake of it? 690+ posts since June? Geez.

I'm not posting just for the sake of it, I only asked a very simple THREE WORD question: "Any news here?" Why is everyone obsessed with post counts here anyway? Who cares how many there are?! Not that I need to explain myself to anyone here, but I only asked because I'm genuinely interested in the Pentominium building!

Geez is f**king right!:bash:

GOOD answer:) elso

Good question, Tate, and good rebuttal. This is an exciting project. True skyscraper fans wanna know and are anxious for news and progress. Who cares about post count, and I have to say there are often a whole lot of dumb, off-topic posts on these threads that no one says anything about, but then react to a logical question like "Any news?" Go figure.

Well, some of us just try to be reasonable. I also am following all the exciting projects of Dubai, craving for news and updates, but i assume that if there are news, they will be posted. If there are updates, they will be posted. Imre doesn't post photos after people ask him, he just does it (God bless him), when there is anything to post. So asking these kinds of questions, requesting updates and all that stuff that is eventually gonna end up there no matter if you ask for it, or not, are just plain old SPAM. At least in my opinion.

A year since last post seems to be a reasonable time to drop a coin with a "Any news?" line. Two weeks in terms ot tower of the magnitude of Pentominium? SPAM.

good news:) ?!

I saw the site today, there is some materials for the fence and empty board but it seems to me new.

Anyway, if I see there something new, I will post.

sounds good, when there's a board they will build atleast something.

great news:cheers:

Good question, Tate, and good rebuttal. This is an exciting project. True skyscraper fans wanna know and are anxious for news and progress. Who cares about post count, and I have to say there are often a whole lot of dumb, off-topic posts on these threads that no one says anything about, but then react to a logical question like "Any news?" Go figure.


:okay:

so, they are making the fence between the 23 Marina and this plot, I think something will be happening soon.

Good question, Tate, and good rebuttal. This is an exciting project. True skyscraper fans wanna know and are anxious for news and progress. Who cares about post count, and I have to say there are often a whole lot of dumb, off-topic posts on these threads that no one says anything about, but then react to a logical question like "Any news?" Go figure.

GOOD answer :) elso

Thank you guys!:)

It's nice and comforting to know that there are some people on this forum who do actually have brains in their heads and who are also TRUE SKYSCRAPER ENTHUSIASTS!!!

Exactly! How the hell is it that nobody (including the mods) says crap about all the DELIBERATE and MALICIOUS posts on this forum every single day? Posts by people who clearly have no interest in Dubai, or in skyscrapers whatsoever! They come on here with their sarcastic, nonsensical snide little comments and nobody's got jack to say about it! Yet, when someone comes along and asks a simple straight-forward question because they really want to know then it's like the crime of the century! I mean :wtf:

good news:) ?!

I saw the site today, there is some materials for the fence and empty board but it seems to me new.

Anyway, if I see there something new, I will post.

so, they are making the fence between the 23 Marina and this plot, I think something will be happening soon.

GREAT NEWS!!:)

Thanks a million mate!!!:cheers:

Thank you guys!:)

It's nice and comforting to know that there are some people on this forum who do actually have brains in their heads and who are also TRUE SKYSCRAPER ENTHUSIASTS!!!

Exactly! How the hell is it that nobody (including the mods) says crap about all the DELIBERATE and MALICIOUS posts on this forum every single day? Posts by people who clearly have no interest in Dubai, or in skyscrapers whatsoever! They come on here with their sarcastic, nonsensical snide little comments and nobody's got jack to say about it! Yet, when someone comes along and asks a simple straight-forward question because they really want to know then it's like the crime of the century! I mean :wtf:

I think you've hit the nail on the head Tate, you're just too enthusiastic. Don't get me wrong, enthusiasm is fine and even encouraged in certain situations, say when a tower is released or a new update comes. But in being so enthusiastic ALL THE TIME it looses its strength and becomes annoying.

You seem to think that certain forumers aren't interested in skyscrapers and just come on here to chide others. I ask you this, if they didn't like skyscrapers, why would they have joined this site in the first place? Discounting some investor types, everyone here is a skyscraper enthusiast.

The fact that we sometimes stray from skyscraper discussion is just a reflection of how slow things are going on any day. We're bored, so we revert to humor to liven things up ;) Nothing to be taken personally.

Believe me, we've all felt as excited about Dubai as you do at one time or another. As the years roll on however, it's inevitable that one becomes a little jaded what with the boundless projects going up in Dubai. You haven't been here long enough to understand this. You're not the first person to get wrapped up in all thats happening in Dubai. So when newbies such as yourself come on here like a kid in a candy store asking for updates left and right and commenting on just about everything, we seasoned skyscraper vets are reluctant to respond.

There is certain unwritten etiquette that goes beyond the forum rules and which most people soon pick up on. You, unfortunately, are in the minority that is apparently oblivious to this. So to help you out, here are some make-shift guidelines I put together

Don't post unless
a) something new about the project has been posted within the past few days that you're responding to (pics, announcements, gossip etc.)
b) you yourself have something new to post (no, not this is a pretty tower etc.)
c) no one has posted for a long time (we're talking months) and it's reasonable to assume something might have happened. Here your object is to redraw peoples attention to a tower they may have forgotten, and to see if any folks in Dubai might have answers.

Posting in response to nothing (the more frequently the worse) can quickly become annoying and is a waist of most forumers time. Here are some examples:

"Any updates?"

"DUBAI IS THE CITY OF THE 21ST CENTURY! SO MANY TOWERS ARE GOING UP! IT'S INCREDIBLE!" ... etc


It's generally safe to assume that when people get info, they will post it. Therefore asking for news or updates is usually pointless. Exceptions include asking for updates from Imre. He is very kind and generous, and will make every effort to try and satisfy your request (within reason of course).

And remember, it's always good to practice moderation ;) Hope that helps some.

Tate, I think you get offended way too easily which results in pages worth of arguing each time.
I know there's a lot of drivel on this forum and sometimes it annoys me quite a bit so that I get pretty harsh in some threads (like the wind towers threads). Humour and discussion does have its place in this forum though, it would be boring without it, but there is a limit and that's where the focus from the thread title is lost. Everyone's guilty of going offtopic, I do it sometimes.
TowerPower is right about some unwritten rules. For example, Imre asking for an update is a lot different to megatower (a now banned member) asking for it. There's a group of people on SSC (mostly hang out in the world forums) that post very little useful stuff and fill the threads with comments like "great update", "this tower's huge", etc. which starts to piss everyone off after a while.
I think some might label you as one of this type. In fairness you have posted a lot of offtopic stuff, which sometimes goes on for god knows how long, such as in this example (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=509301&page=6). If you want to get rid of this label I suggest you start searching the net for (new) renders, finding out news about projects, posting good ontopic comments, and generally making a more positive contribution to SSC.

OK now lets leave this and back to the pentominium.

Imre, is the site directly next to 23 marina?

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/NEWUSER_01_2007/pentominium-plans.jpg

fantastic tower; It was designed by Aedas's own "Patrick Wai" from the Hong Kong office - senior architectural designer; he can be found and harassed here http://www.friendster.com/pwai

:lol: kidding about the harass part, unless you insist.. I know Naz can't wait!

I think you've .... that helps some.
Your post is more annoying than Tate's one. Tate's question was a small on topic post, your post is long and off topic. I thought: long post so there's maybe news, but no it was just bashing an enthusiast. How dissapointing :(
Further I found Tate's small question way less annoying than the endless discussion about investments and complains about delays you see in almost every topic. Even the so called "good update" post are less annoying, when I see a post like good update I know that it's worth to check the thread. Other relevant information mostly get lost between letter from and to DS or whatever or simple complains.

^^ What the hell are you talking about? He was adressing an issue, that Tate is clearly unaware of. I second TowerPower in all that he said. Your post, on the other hand, is useless, as you should not be the one to respond.

And excuse me, but complaints about delays are much more on topic than all these "great update" posts. I bet Imre knows that he posts great updates without all this crap.

Now, can we PLEASE return to the topic?

^^ What the hell are you talking about? He was adressing an issue, that Tate is clearly unaware of. I second TowerPower in all that he said. Your post, on the other hand, is useless, as you should not be the one to respond.

And excuse me, but complaints about delays are much more on topic than all these "great update" posts. I bet Imre knows that he posts great updates without all this crap.

Now, can we PLEASE return to the topic?

^^ "that Tate" as you put it knows a hell of a lot more about these things than you will ever know dude! Who are you to say some guys post is useless and he can't respond?

"All this crap" is coming from people like you!!!

good news:) ?!

I saw the site today, there is some materials for the fence and empty board but it seems to me new.

Anyway, if I see there something new, I will post.

great to hear that, hopefully we'll see some progress soon.
now i only miss such news from Ocean Heights 2 and Infinity tower :)

Blizzy, I respond on everything I want to respond on. If my post is useless, then your post is useless too ;)
And indeed lets return to the topic. All of us have clearly different opinions about what is usefull and on topic and what is not.

Just to get things back on track... posts (elongated metal rods, that is) were going up yesterday which appear to be in preparation for some kind of hoarding. It is positioned on one side of the middle plot. That is, you have 23 Marina, empty plot 1, empty plot 2, empty plot 3, then MAG 218. The posts were going up between empty plots 1 and 2 which seemed to indicate that the middle plot (empty plot 2) is where construction work will happen. Perhaps someone today may have seen more progress on the hoarding.

I wonder if anyone knows what will happen in emty plot 3, right beside MAG 218, which was at one time supposed to have a 65+ storey tower called Marina Garden to be built by a Saudi developer. Apparantly that Saudi developer is not proceeding with this, but I would imagine the plot is either up for grabs or something's under negotiation. Anyone know anything about this?

Tate, I think you get offended way too easily which results in pages worth of arguing each time.
I know there's a lot of drivel on this forum and sometimes it annoys me quite a bit so that I get pretty harsh in some threads (like the wind towers threads). Humour and discussion does have its place in this forum though, it would be boring without it, but there is a limit and that's where the focus from the thread title is lost. Everyone's guilty of going offtopic, I do it sometimes.
TowerPower is right about some unwritten rules. For example, Imre asking for an update is a lot different to megatower (a now banned member) asking for it. There's a group of people on SSC (mostly hang out in the world forums) that post very little useful stuff and fill the threads with comments like "great update", "this tower's huge", etc. which starts to piss everyone off after a while.
I think some might label you as one of this type. In fairness you have posted a lot of offtopic stuff, which sometimes goes on for god knows how long, such as in this example (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=509301&page=6). If you want to get rid of this label I suggest you start searching the net for (new) renders, finding out news about projects, posting good ontopic comments, and generally making a more positive contribution to SSC.

OK now lets leave this and back to the pentominium.

Imre, is the site directly next to 23 marina?

You're dead wrong about me being too easily offended! I have a very thick skin actually, and you'd have to have when listening to some of the shite on here! I don't get upset or offended easily, I just brush it off and move on! At least I can take it when someone has a go, unlike those who try to dish it out!

Okay, I may be very enthusiastic - even over enthusiastic at times, but at least I can say I don't come on here and DELIBERATELY start shit like so many! And what have YOU done about that?

I'm an investor full stop, and I am on here to gain as much information as possible! Which I have I may add, and I'm extremely grateful to people like Imre for that! I have businesses and a family to take care of, so I really I haven't got the time to sit around on my fat, lazy behind on the internet all day long like some folk here! Maybe that's the problem...maybe they've got too much spare time on their f*****g hands!

You ask a simple THREE WORD little question that a five-year-old could understand, and which IS on topic and you get all of this unnesessary bullshit!

Blizzy, I respond on everything I want to respond on. If my post is useless, then your post is useless too ;)
And indeed lets return to the topic. All of us have clearly different opinions about what is usefull and on topic and what is not.

Yes, we all have our own opinions and ways of looking at all of this, so PLEASE lets just get back to the Pentominium!

Just to get things back on track... posts (elongated metal rods, that is) were going up yesterday which appear to be in preparation for some kind of hoarding. It is positioned on one side of the middle plot. That is, you have 23 Marina, empty plot 1, empty plot 2, empty plot 3, then MAG 218. The posts were going up between empty plots 1 and 2 which seemed to indicate that the middle plot (empty plot 2) is where construction work will happen. Perhaps someone today may have seen more progress on the hoarding.


So it's positioned right in my model then, right behind sulafa tower.
I'll be amazed if this gets off the ground. It's just such an ambitious project for a not so big developer. I have no idea where they're going to get the money to built it, the project is just the tower so they'll have to make their money off selling apartments but looking at the prices it doesn't add up to a substantial amount (ie over $1bn considering the height, structural stuff and interiors). The engineering issues with this will probably be massive considering it has a 14:1 height ratio. Someone at SSP said buildings with more than a 9:1 ratio or something become difficult.

since we are going back to pentominium,:lol: ...

an acquaintance of mine bought two penthouses last month...about 5 million dollars.

he bought the penthouses in tower A. apparently tower B's penthouses have gardens...there are only 14 penthouses with a garden feature of 1700 sq ft

market price for a penthouse in tower A is around 4 million dollars but there is one penthouse for sale in pentominium in tower B with the garden for about 5 million dollars

Even if all the apartments were selling for $5m they'd still only make $800m, that's why I think it'll eventually be scaled down.

I agree, I reckon this tower will definitely be Nakheeled, er, I mean scaled down.:sly:

Nakheeled [pr. Nak-heeled]
Verb
To lavishly announce a megaproject to the world and then wake up one morning with the sudden realisation that now the hype has died down, you'll have to sell your entire family to the Russian Mafia just to break ground and therefore subsequently and swiftly execute a carefully planned and calculated strategy of downsizing, cheapening, economising with the truth and white lying to the press and public, which normally ends up looking like a extraordinarily rushed contingency plan - (executed with about as much efficiency as a team of United Nations weapons of mass destruction team in Bagdad, from the other side, with about as much truth and honesty as the Bush Administration explaining the outcome of the said United Nations WMD team's findings) - that resembles someone shitting themselves the morning after an all-night house party.

09/September/2007


The Pentominium

fence works , an empty board but not sure it belongs to the Pentominium.


http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6982/imresolt04zn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2256/imresolt05jl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6303/imresolt06tx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5853/imresolt07en8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5254/imresolt08tc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9672/imresolt10jd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and something new , between the 23 Marina and Al Seef Tower

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8034/imresolt11lx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8614/imresolt16pn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7871/imresolt17qg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Well that fenced off area is in the right location anyway Imre, so lets hope we'll see some activity there soon!

as sample as that we are not tha same soo cam down ...everyone can see this site (investor,real estute agent, arch, etc ...) eveyone comes with different issues so :poke:

http://i12.tinypic.com/4rcs00n.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/5ykrp92.jpg

i can cut the tension with a knife!! :lol:

so, we can see on the 2nd pics , that fence belongs to the Maidan.

what ever it will be it will be quite slim

I don't give a flying kite which plot it's going to be built on, as long as it gets built... They can build it in the water if they want... Just start the darn construction already - jeeez!! I just want to see it done with the fleet of Bentleys!

i can cut the tension with a knife!! :lol:

^^ :lol: :lol:

I've just polished my favourite Samurai sword too!!:yes:

ahh the memories are flooding back...

I don't give a flying kite which plot it's going to be built on, as long as it gets built... They can build it in the water if they want... Just start the darn construction already - jeeez!! I just want to see it done with the fleet of Bentleys!

Damn right!!! Lets see some movement here for the love of God!!!

16/Oct/2007

The Pentominium

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3721/imresolt175mu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4868/imresolt176iv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6531/imresolt177xm1.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt177xm1.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6643/imresolt179zw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8079/imresolt180dc3.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt180dc3.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5193/imresolt181zg6.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt181zg6.jpg)

gigantic

Great pics IMRE, and trees in the sky too. Interesting how one side is not actually all apartments

So, who were they that were saying this will not be located adjacent to 23Marina but distant from it?

you can see the 'T' in the model

here is the cross:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1066/imresolt071ci0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3952/imresolt070sq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So, who were they that were saying this will not be located adjacent to 23Marina but distant from it?

Did anyone actually say that? It was pretty clear from the beginning.

Man i love this tower.. simply stunning.

Only problem is its views are now blocked!
The model is great though

The tower in the T model isnt Pentominium. What development is it?

Ignore the question - I've just seen the Mada'in thread.

18/October/2007


http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/246/imresolt079yk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://i24.tinypic.com/2zhp8g1.jpg

......

Now this is what I'm talkin' about! This is what you call a true skyscraper!:yes: Pentominium is magnificent!

C'mon lets build the f*****g thing!!!!!:bash: :banana: :banana:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3721/imresolt175mu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4868/imresolt176iv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Great models! Thank you Imre!:)

.......

Sorry malec/Krazy, my mistake, could you please delete post 321. Thanks.:)

Hi Tate, all you need to do is click on your post where it shows "edit" and delete everything, replacing it by a few of these ******

I agree Pentominium is going to be great for the Marina, a real landmark, only think I don't like it's going to make the Torch look like one of the seven dwarfs. :lol:

Hi Tate, all you need to do is click on your post where it shows "edit" and delete everything, replacing it by a few of these ******

I agree Pentominium is going to be great for the Marina, a real landmark, only think I don't like it's going to make the Torch look like one of the seven dwarfs. :lol:

Hi Morris, Thanks mate!:)

I must be going blind or something? :ohno: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, Pentominium is gonna make almost everything in the Marina look pretty lame - including The Torch! :lol: :lol: Sorry.:) But everything on that super-tall block is very special so no worries mate! The greatest block of mega towers on the planet!!! :yes: :okay:

You're in very good company Morris. Take care:)

Yeah, the excessive marijuana intake is making you blind. :D

http://i22.tinypic.com/2zhp8g1.jpg

I know, Naz, I really should cut back....but you know some days it just eases the pain...;)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/185/pentominiumbm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

why they dont put the 23 Marina , Al Seef, Sulafa etc.. on this pics?

small buildings there is irrealistic.

Doesn't look as good :lol:
http://i22.tinypic.com/10rih6a.jpg

^^ Certainly doesn't! :lol:

Doesn't look as good :lol:
http://i22.tinypic.com/10rih6a.jpg

yes, and if you put the Sulafa, Tamani Marina Hotel, Ocean Heights, Marina Crown, Elite Reside etc ..it will look terrible:)

what are those protrusions: sky gardens, balconies, or a combination of both? Looking good, I must add.

why they dont put the 23 Marina , Al Seef, Sulafa etc.. on this pics?

small buildings there is irrealistic.

They don't want to give free advertising to the competition :)

they put some flags at the site , next to the 23 Marina , I hope that they will leave at least 2 meters between the 2 towers:)

Saw that as well...

What i also noticed that 23 Marina is actually not in the centre of the basement levels but more towards the back road.. eg east. so there will be some space...

31/October/2007

The Pentominium plot

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1135/imresolt05vl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2042/imresolt06ci1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

03/November/2007

The Pentominium

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/206/imresolt73fd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4492/imresolt74ub9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Nice pics Imre.:) Going hard at it I see!:lol:

are they in same soil test like alburj right now ...or not ??

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2371/pentoniumgf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:D

Scale is wrong.

Only the top floors around 80 and upwards will have panoramic views. There are going to be a lot of unhappy people that have bought here!

^^ really? why you say so many unhappy people?

Because this is Dubai, where they don't tell you that your expensive flat will be right next to an 80+ story building (marina 23) a 65+ story hotel (marina arcade) and have an 82-foor tower (ocean heights) directly between you and the sea ... along with all the smaller towers (of around 50 floors).

So, how many investors have you spoken to about this Tractor ??

I've met at least 2 agents (selling in the Pento) who didn't even know where the tower was going to be ... so what hope do the people buying have?

Hopefully some investors will see this forum/thread before parting with their money. No doubt it will be an incredible place to live if over 80th floor or so!!!

If i was a cynic, or stupid, or both, i'd say something like "oh look, nearly 12 months after launch, and no construction work going on, no machinery, nothing - therefore Trident are crooks and a mini-Damac".

But alas, I have a life. And a day job.

If i was a cynic, or stupid, or both, i'd say something like "oh look, nearly 12 months after launch, and no construction work going on, no machinery, nothing - therefore Trident are crooks and a mini-Damac".

But alas, I have a life. And a day job.

Why bother posting at all, if you refuse to incorporate facts into your statements?

Trident will have competed 3 (more?) developments by the time the Torch is finished (which was launched how many years before the started work ... was it 2?!?!)

Doesn't look as good :lol:
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PS Why are people having a go at me for saying the same thing as others?

Coz we're fed up hearing your shit.

You mean you're immature DS investors who don't want to hear anything objective about DS developments and are so over-sensitive that it has spilled over into this thread?

You really need to learn to separate your emotions from business. You and Naz are so tetchy you'd think you'd invested your life savings or something!

Fact is, a LOT of people have been misled in Dubai regarding their investments and this forum provides them with valuable information to help them judge what they should or should not buy.

... if me repeating the comments about other people and having my own opinion doesn't meet with your approval then you should not be in a discussion forum. Also strange how when Krazy says similar things to me you don't attack him (for obvious reasons).

Learn to live and let live & good luck with your investment.

guys chill out. there is no need to attack each other.. everyone has the right to express their opinions in a respectful manner. let's all be adults here

Because this is Dubai, where they don't tell you that your expensive flat will be right next to an 80+ story building (marina 23) a 65+ story hotel (marina arcade) and have an 82-foor tower (ocean heights) directly between you and the sea ... along with all the smaller towers (of around 50 floors).


if they advertising with this ,nobody would buy there:)

They should promise sea view, ocean view etc... and of course completion in 2010:)

Why bother posting at all, if you refuse to incorporate facts into your statements?

Trident will have competed 3 (more?) developments by the time the Torch is finished (which was launched how many years before the started work ... was it 2?!?!)

OK lets incorporate some facts then that's fine by me.......Torch was launched June 2005 and piling work commenced February 2006 - 8 month after launch.

Enough said. :cheers:

^^ You forget to mention: Copy-paste simplistic design.

...anyone have price list for apartments in Pentominium? :)

23/November/2007

The Pentominium plot

soil testing finished

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START FROM 14million DHR

Nice, soil testing finished:) Now how long before piling starts?

^^ No one can say.

The problem here is who will be first to have the plans ready and of course getting the permission for piling: Trident or Mad'han.

If Marina Arcade has to start first, ground work on Pentominium and the other 2 - 3 remaining plots has to wait till the mall will be above ground. However considering that Marina101 is still in the piling stage, work on Marina Arcade Mall can't start before 6 months to 1 year, they may still start working on the Hotel though.

^^ Thanks Altin, much appreciate the info :)

So long to wait :ohno:

28/November/2007

The Pentominium

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^^ Excellent shots Imre. Thank you. Hopefully piling will start soon. Hard to believe that a 120F skyscraper is going on that plot. The overall site just doesn't look like it can accommodate a tower this big... but as I'm no expert on these matters I'm most likely wrong!:lol:

^^ Excellent shots Imre. Thank you. Hopefully piling will start soon. Hard to believe that a 120F skyscraper is going on that plot. The overall site just doesn't look like it can accommodate a tower this big... but as I'm no expert on these matters I'm most likely wrong!:lol:

Yes, you are. Look at the models and you'll easily see how it can accomodate the tower.

I know this already. Thinking out loud;)

I know this already. Thinking out loud;)

Which takes up space, thinking is sometimes better if left in your head and not written down for everyone else to read.

Are you speaking from experience? :dunno:

Imre I can't make it out. Are they only moving dirt around there or have they actually started digging a hole.

it looks started to make a hole, we will see after a couple days

They're clearing the plot / leveling it and placing a boundary.

06/December/2007

The Pentominium

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^^are they beginning construction:banana::banana::banana:

Certainly looks that way ... we'll know for definate over the next couple of weeks or so.

http://www.signatureresidencesww.com/catalogue.asp?pid=45

This site says that units "will cost from £1 million for a lower level unit up to £5 million for an upper penthouse." Surely this price difference can't all be based on the height of the apartment? I mean, is the "upper penthouse" referenced just the same unit on a higher floor for 5 times the cost (unlikely), or are there bigger Penthouse units at the top? If anyone could clear this up and post a floorplan of the actual Penthouses (or Penthouse, if there's only one up there) that would be great. Thanking someone on here in advance, PTG.

Those interior renders are not bad at all ... $50,000 to reserve a unit isn't bad either ...

Hey Pea-Tear-Griffon, here a drawing of the layout for one of the penthouse floors.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/NEWUSER_01_2007/pentominium-plans.jpg


I cant find anything larger than this for regular floors...
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Lots of stuff has arrived on site now, and it looks like they are constructing rebar for the piles ... surprised they're getting on with this so fast!

Awsome! Can't wait to see this one rise up.

Fantastic news! Dying to see this extraordinary tower finally become a reality :)

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Swissboring to commence work on Pentominium at Dubai Marina

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Trident International Holdings (TIH), leading real estate developer in Dubai, has awarded the enabling works’ contract for its 516 m tall Pentominium to global major Swissboring Overseas Corporation Ltd. (Swissboring).

Wazir Daredia, Executive Director and CEO, TIH, said, “At 516 m, the Pentominium is truly the defined height of luxury and is definitely one of the most challenging real estate projects undertaken in the world. Furthermore, its piling and shoring contract gains even more in significance and complexity as it includes work on laying Dubai’s deepest piles, at an estimated depth of 65 m”.

Swissboring will be responsible for shoring and temporary work, excavation and earth works, foundation piling work, pile testing and certification, dewatering work, site establishment and final clean-up.

Nice. this is great news! quite fast! Maybe Emaar is really pushing now..

^^ Apart that we knew SWISSBORING got it since December 6th, when Imre posted updates showing them working on site.

SWISSBORING IS one of the best gooooooo P TOWER

SWISSBORING IS one of the best gooooooo P TOWER

what?:?

i mean this contractor is at top 10 in the whole world .. and i saw alot of projects u/c ...specially

excavation and earth works, foundation piling work, pile testing and certification, dewatering work, site establishment and final clean-up.

they can do it so fast .....(it's just estimate from ma opnion)

^^ Right, gooooooooo P Tower.

How could I not have understood that.

yeah, gooooooooo D City. :)

20/December/2007

The Pentominium

first hole is done ( maybe just test , we can see the soil samples from different deep on the last pic) , the watchman said its 75 m deep:)

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gooooooooo swissboring !!!

thanks for the great updates Imre

gooooooooo swissboring !!!

^^ :D

Brilliant as always, thanks for the pics Imre.

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Trident International Holdings opens exclusive Client Relations Centre at Dubai Marina

Trident International Holdings, one of Dubai's oldest and leading private real estate developers of unique luxurious properties such as the iconic Pentominium, has opened its Client Relations Centre (CRC) at the prestigious Dubai Marina.

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Located in Trident's first residential development, The Waterfront, the new office is fully equipped to deal with the various processes of property deals and is geared towards delivering the best possible customer service.

Commenting on the initiative, Mr. Wazir Ali Daredia, Executive Director and CEO of Trident said,

'We decided to open a CRC in Dubai Marina, the first having been at our corporate office in Jebel Ali, considering the fact that all our projects are located in Dubai Marina. We have consciously selected this location, so as to become more accessible to our investors and buyers. The relocation is in alignment with Trident's philosophy of giving priority to its customers, and all our initiatives are aimed at enhancing customer convenience and reinforcing a superior experience every time an investor or a buyer deals with Trident.'

Combining the expertise of highly trained customer service professionals with the state-of the-art global communication systems, the office will be a one-stop window for all sale related processes as well as site visitations. This would save a lot of time for our customers. A pro-active approach, geared towards achieving greater customer satisfaction, will help to reduce the turn-around time in responding to customer queries and at the same time increase the customer base.

How much their project MarinaScape is late?

11/January/2008

The Pentominium

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Interesting^^

They are building load cells into the piles.

^^ first time I saw cells in the piles.

Is it need for the piling test?

Theoretically, it should be able to transmit all of its life (beyond testing). The question is what happens if it fails after pouring the concrete, they are not the most reliable things in the world:)

I hope that there is some kind of redundancy factor there somewhere :)

^^ first time I saw cells in the piles.

Is it need for the piling test?

This is a revolutionary design in this tower. I don't expect they are required for load testing as this can be done more easily with a portable unit.

I am guessing that it is to help fine tine the damping system and to provide valuable data to ensure the load limits are not being exceeded by wind forces, lever arm (moment) being transferred to the piles.

In exteme circumstances when there is a big gust of wind trying to blow the tower down some of the piles may be acting in tension to resist this over turning load. So when in tension the remaining piles farthest from the windward elevation, will now be holding up the weight of the entire building on their own. It would be handy to know if this situation is developing or if the piles are/ or have reached their limit state.

This is a very tall and slender design which is pushing the boundaries of technology. Data from these cells will prove if the engineers have got their sums correct or not :)

Interesting stuff.

Who actually does the monitoring, is it some Indian security guy sitting in reception looking at a control panel ??

Suppose there is a problem then after construction what do they do ?? Presumably evacuate the residents......... but then what ??

Who actually does the monitoring, is it some Indian security guy sitting in reception looking at a control panel ??



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:lol::lol::lol:

Pentominium will be in safe hands then.

Interesting, I've never seen those. It's called an Osterberg Cell, or O-Cell.

Picture from www.loadtest.co.uk (http://www.loadtest.co.uk/Loadtest%20Ltd/the%20osterberg%20cell_files/ocell.htm):

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intersting indeed..

It has been used before in Dubai and Abu-Dhabi:)

http://www.loadtest2005.net/loadtest-me/

This 'Osterberg Cell' sounds very interesting... Will provide very valuable data no doubt.

^^sounds like a great title for a film.

^^ You're right, it does! Sounds like one of those old cold war movies eh :)

How many of those cells will they use anyway? Just the one? You investing at Pentominium?

So when in tension the remaining piles farthest from the windward elevation, will now be holding up the weight of the entire building on their own. It would be handy to know if this situation is developing or if the piles are/ or have reached their limit state.



TB..is that possible??

^^ Even that you have two legs (... I presume :D), haven't you ever been in the position to equilibrium on only one of them?

^^ Good analogy Altin. I presume also simply because it's so tall, slender and has a small foundation area.

Ever played Genga? Build it tall and it always rotates from the bottom. Part of the structure lifts up leaving the weight on the "hinge".

^^ The below was posted on the Supertall forum, in reference to Pentominium having more (in number) and deeper-going piles then Burj Dubai:

^^ Burj Dubai has a much wider base and an aerodynamic shape to control and manipulate the wind flow and minimise the forces, while this tower is a slender structure that relies on foundations to counter all that.

That confirms it, thanks Altin. The piles are doing 2 jobs here, supporting the weight and anchoring the base to stop it overturning. Push and pull piles :)

LOL ^^ It sure does. :hilarious

What a complete waste of time huh ...

bad quality but better than nothing:)

17/January/2008

23 Marina and the Pentominium

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This is a revolutionary design in this tower. I don't expect they are required for load testing as this can be done more easily with a portable unit.

I am guessing that it is to help fine tine the damping system and to provide valuable data to ensure the load limits are not being exceeded by wind forces, lever arm (moment) being transferred to the piles.

In exteme circumstances when there is a big gust of wind trying to blow the tower down some of the piles may be acting in tension to resist this over turning load. So when in tension the remaining piles farthest from the windward elevation, will now be holding up the weight of the entire building on their own. It would be handy to know if this situation is developing or if the piles are/ or have reached their limit state.

This is a very tall and slender design which is pushing the boundaries of technology. Data from these cells will prove if the engineers have got their sums correct or not :)

This is quite an interesting method. But do they need to do a piletest with the large amounts of massive concrete blocks on it? So that they can see if the piles can have the load pressures as calculated with?

It is a normal requirement to load test piles. I don't know which method they will use, possibly static with the pyramid of concrete blocks or push/pull against a few adjacent piles.

18/January/2008

The Pentominium

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Interesting photos ^^ How long should this load test take before real construction begins? One of the best looking towers in the world IMO. :)

piling,test,excavation,dewatering apr 1 year if everything is ok

piling,test,excavation,dewatering apr 1 year if everything is ok

So, we may not see any real progress in construction on Pentominium for at least one year from now huh :cry:

Thanks for info ...

Dang 1 year. I can't wait that long.:nuts:

01/February/2008

The Pentominium

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For those who missed Imre's update on Flickr:

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22/February/2008

The Pentominium

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How long until this thing goes vertical? anybody know?

^^ One year I would think

keep that site blue in color and it can goes anywhere vertical horizontal whatever :)

So cool - for tallest block - that Pentominium will be taller than Taipei 101, albeit by a mere 7m :D

No work is taking place here anymore ... no idea why!

I noticed too that there was no sign of life at the site in those last few updates. Machinery all sitting idle :ohno:

Not surprised. Too expensive to build?
Redesign to a smaller, more feasible project?

:doh: hope not , shit!!!!

Yes confirmed. They are downsizing to a 4 bedroom villa.

This is my favourite Dubai project I think. I hope it goes ahead, as planned too, not a watered-down version.

Couldn't agree more, hope to God Pentominium is not downsized, as that would ruin the whole project for me personally. It's magnificent just the way it is! I know at least 7 investors here who will run a mile if this happens.

LOL, because malec had a bad day at school, doesn't mean it will necessarily happen. :D ;)

^^ LOL U got that in writing??? :dunno: They had better build this tower as planned or there will be trouble!!! :bash: I wanna see 516m of Pentominium - NOT the bungalow version!! :bleep:


:D

^^:lol: We will see it!!!

^^ LOL U got that in writing??? :dunno:

:D


You may be right, sorry.






... last time it happened he started cursing. :D

^^:lol: We will see it!!!

You may be right, sorry.






... last time it happened he started cursing. :D

LOL I feel so assured again guys ... <:|> :D

But what about this time?? :runaway:

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^^ Nice shot ... not a lot going on on site though, apart from a couple of cranes ...

Yes, they are piling....or testing?

^^ No, these cranes are there to build the slurry wall.

any construction is a good sign, cause there sales are really bad

^^ How come so bad?

Nothing is moving, sorry to say. Maybe waiting for a permit to come through.

God, hope they don't cancel it!!! :doh:

hope it too, the design is just too perfect :)

God, hope they don't cancel it!!! :doh:

hope it too, the design is just too perfect :)

lol For the love of God don't start with all the "speculation" all over again guys!!! :bash: :D I reckon Pentominium may break ground when Burj Dubai is topped out!! Hopefully before though :carrot:

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plot ready to start the real work ?

The plot looks a lot smoother / more levelled out now from the time of last update, so hopefully things will get moving here soon.

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That first shot is just awesome! :cheers:

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Undisclosed talks hit negotiations for Pentominium tower
Published: 27 June 2008 18:18 GMT Author: Colin Foreman More by this Author Last Updated: 27 June 2008 18:18 Reader Responses
The project to build the 120-storey Pentominium tower in Dubai has been thrown into confusion after contractors, who thought they were in exclusive negotiations for the AED1bn ($272m) construction contract, discovered that the client, Hong Kong-based Trident Holding, had been holding talks with several firms.
Negotiations for the work began late last year. The project involves the construction of a 516 metre-tall residential tower at Dubai Marina, with a total built-up area of 171,500 square metres. Once complete, it will be one of the tallest residential towers in the world.

The firms that were engaged in talks include Lebanon's Arabian Construction Company (ACC), CSHK Dubai Contracting and Turkey's TAV. Sources at the firms say they thought they were in exclusive negotiations. Trident could not be reached for comment.

It is now unclear whether the firms will continue to pursue the project or look for work elsewhere. An additional three contractors are also understood to have been approached either directly or indirectly for work on the project.

Swissboring was awarded the piling and shoring contract at the end of 2007. US-based Hirsch Bedner Associates is the interior designer. The Hong Kong office of Aedas is the consultant.

The Pentominium tower is Trident's third project at the marina, following The Waterfront and Trident Grand Residence tower.

CSHK is working on the Trident Grand Residence project, while ACC and TAV also have substantial projects at Dubai Marina. ACC is working on the Elite Residence and Princess towers, and TAV has won the Marina 101 contract.

$272m for this? :hahaha:

G+106 coming between the Pentominium and MAG , finally they will have just building views.

Change titel to 618 meters !! THX

Pictures from http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html

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Meh. Spire doesn't light my fire.

Why did they add the spire, will 516m no longer beat some record that 618m will?

^^ Yup. Tallest residental tower in the world (beating 610m by Chicago Spire).

Excellent, that spire adds a crowning touch. That could make the tower the focal point of the tallest block--especially if they light the spire up at night. That would light my fire! I hope they can afford it though. As these towers get built they often lose rather than add those extra touches.

Excellent that is will be the worlds tallest, although a bit of a cheat! I don't think a big pole will cost that much, not like an extensive roof feature that sometimes gets dropped for cost reasons. I suppose the claim of world tallest will help the flagging sales.

As much as I love this tower I think thats an outright cheat, adding a spire just for a record that wont last long (because im sure Dubai will topple that record in the waterfront district or the new tameer tower or the adrian smith proposals or some other project), its just bound that this tower will be overtaken so is it really necessary to add a spire for the sake of competition I mean it only makes pentominium look like a cheater lol. At the end of the day anyhow the chicago spire is a much better design and much better location in terms of its open views unlike the wall for wall views of the pentominium. Nowthe penthouses of the pentominium will have amazing views I cannot wait to see them

^^ I really think the pole adds something aesthetically to the tower, and perhaps functionally as well.

Hahah that will make Chicago Spire fans angry. But other than Height I'm not sure if I like it. It looked a lot cleaner with out it

They have started digging.

the tower looks great with the spire i think :)

They have started digging.

Excellent!! :)

Anyway, this is as much a 600m tower as sears is a 500m and the NY times building is a 300m one.

They have started digging.

Awesome news !!! THX scoot !! :okay: :banana::cheers::nuts:

Do you have any picture??

I think that the Spire developers should add one too, going for 700+. Hey, if one side is cheating, why shouldn't the other?

I think that the Spire developers should add one too, going for 700+. Hey, if one side is cheating, why shouldn't the other?
Hope I live another 10 years to see this super tower block completed -
120 th floor Pentominium sounds like my goal (no balconies please)

I think that the Spire developers should add one too, going for 700+. Hey, if one side is cheating, why shouldn't the other?


The tower is called the Spire; I'd presume it already has a high spire.

Yes it has to have a spire.. and illuminated too !
The whole monastery is at one on this. We will now click this thread as one of our favourites along with the Burj, the Moscow Federation Towers and the Shard.

BTW our least favourites are the silver boot in Chicago ('Trump' - says it all, he he! sorry I'll repent of that in chapel later) the Incheon and the Battersea Tower proposal - uhg.

Must go pray now,
Blessings,
St. T

Yes it has to have a spire.. and illuminated too !
The whole monastery is at one on this. We will now click this thread as one of our favourites along with the Burj, the Moscow Federation Towers and the Shard.

BTW our least favourites are the silver boot in Chicago ('Trump' - says it all, he he! sorry I'll repent of that in chapel later) the Incheon and the Battersea Tower proposal - uhg.

Must go pray now,
Blessings,
St. T

Are you really in a monastery? Which it did you mean, the Pentominium or the Chicago Spire? By the way, can you confirm whether the Spire has a spire. There are mutiple renders. Some with and some without.

No the Chic. Spire should not - it would start to look like something out of Thunderbirds..
But the Dub. Pento. needs it for shape and aspiration..

We are still upset here about the Battersea proposal !
Meditating
St. T

hahah the chicago guys are gonna hate it.

But then again, there tower is called Chicago Spire so...

The digging doesn't seem to be for this site:

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^^For which then??

Dunno, marina arcade maybe?
But it's weird, that hole eats into the pentominium plot a bit.

Arcade is on another plot I think ^^

That hole is for collecting the liquid that is pumped out of the dug slurry wall, after the concrete is pumped in.

You know they dug and then fill the holes with the liquid so it doesn't collapse. They put the metal caisons in and then pump the concrete, which being heavier, push the liquid up and out of the hole.

^^ It's like we're seeing True Blue, only better English! :runaway:

The digging doesn't seem to be for this site:

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this is the Pentominium plot, just a few workers and I dont know what are they doing there .

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Nightshot Pentominimum

time traveller^^^^^^^^

Wonderful tower, now is it going to get grey or blue facade? On this last pic and cityscape model is has grey, on the other renders blue. Time will tell I think :)

^^We need some render DUBAI ADDICTION ;)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8779/02lq1.jpg

Pity it is in an awful location....

^^The tallest block in the world is an awful location?