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malec
November 16th, 2006, 03:58 AM
Another supertower for the tallest block on the planet. Most likely between al seef and 23 marina.
http://i10.tinypic.com/2h4zv2v.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3521/untitled1kv7.jpg
six453
November 16th, 2006, 07:25 AM
any info on the architect?
dubaiflyer
November 16th, 2006, 08:11 AM
I heard that this is going on the former Emaar sales centre site in front of the Torch.
This design appears to be stretching skyscraper technology to the limit. I hope it has better construction than the gibberish text above! :weird:
Stephan23
November 16th, 2006, 10:27 AM
Wou!! Very great design!! Another one with 100+ floors and over 400.
malec
November 16th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Architect is Aedas.
It's almost definitely beside 23 marina. They say the neighbour is 380m high so that means 23 marina.
avion1
November 16th, 2006, 11:08 AM
please someone send the sale office phone number.
Thanks in advance.
True Blue
November 16th, 2006, 12:05 PM
This design appears to be stretching skyscraper technology to the limit. I hope it has better construction than the gibberish text above! :weird:
I can maybe help out here.
It is not really stretching technology to the limit it is just using existing technology developed for horizontal structures and applying it to a vertical structure. This has become necessary as the height versus the minimum plan dimension (slenderness ratio) is very high due to the voids caused by the garden areas.
As I mentioned in the Infinity thread, If you remove perimeter columns then you need a massive core to resist the cantilever loads. They intend to overcome this problem by post stressing the core over the areas where the garden voids are. This is acheived by passing steel rods up through tubes in the structural walls and once the concrete reaches its full strenght, the rods are stressed (pulled tightly) against the vertical walls. This compressive stress acts as virtual weight, for want of a better description. This limits the ability of the walls to flex when the wind loads act on the structure.
Sorry if I'm boring anyone, can't resist it :)
Dubai-Lover
November 16th, 2006, 12:13 PM
nice one
but why do we open threads for proposals?
Colonel Cadillac
November 16th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Another one! I am having trouble visualizing the marina if all the proposals are finished.
malec
November 16th, 2006, 01:43 PM
nice one
but why do we open threads for proposals?
Because this is a real project and not just a design competition proposal or something like that. We also know the developer and it's certain trident has bought a plot and wants to build this on it. Whether it actually gets built is a different story.
I think it's an amazing tower, especially with those skygardens, it's also different from the rest which is good. Most likely this'll be a super-exclusive tower since it doesn't have a lot of apartments and will most likely cost a fortune to build.
There's just too much being built in that small chunk of land though. Forget views being blocked, etc. What about the traffic? The denser an area is, the better the infrastructure has to be.
SA BOY
November 16th, 2006, 02:08 PM
neighbour is not 23 marina (or it may be from the side) but its elite residence at 380m
dubaiflo
November 16th, 2006, 02:10 PM
^^ behind elite residence? why do you think so?
this one is serious, i am pretty sure trident is going to build it.
we heard of another biggie from them so it should be this one.
i don't think it is between Al seef and 23m but between 23 marina and Mag 218, most likely two plots left from mag.
and i love the design, can't wait for more renders.
SA BOY
November 16th, 2006, 02:10 PM
add to the 3D model please please please!!!!!!!
malec
November 16th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Behind elite residence is marina 101. Elite residence is also walled off from all sides (except sea-facing side).
Krazy
November 16th, 2006, 02:55 PM
flo can u email ur trident people and ask them for this one's PLOT NUMBER
DiscoPiratePolarBear
November 16th, 2006, 07:13 PM
http://i7.tinypic.com/4hjmt5l.jpg
is it the plot next to marina garden?
AltinD
November 16th, 2006, 07:32 PM
^^ That is an old layout and it seams to have been changed. Marina Gardens never made it and is a dead project.
Since 23Marina is officially recognised as a 380 meter tall tower (even in the website) and they don't talk about any sea view or make any pretence for any kind of view at all, as well as not mentioning a second tower nearby; this tower should be located on the (left) side of it.
dubaiflo
November 16th, 2006, 08:17 PM
^^ which is what i said from the beginning and i am almost convinced this is the case.
Krazy
November 16th, 2006, 08:20 PM
so maybe marina garden has been replaced by trident tower... im still not sure if there is a plot right next to 23 marina
LocoAir
November 16th, 2006, 08:55 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: incredible, :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
ZZ-II
November 16th, 2006, 09:56 PM
wow, the design is really great
igor
November 16th, 2006, 11:23 PM
excellent!
dubaiflyer
November 17th, 2006, 01:35 AM
Believe me, - it really is the Emaar sales centre site, according to my very well connected contact.
Dubai_Steve
November 17th, 2006, 02:03 AM
^^ I doubt it as it says its neighbour is 380m (torch is 345m but elite residence is 380m) and also Emaar are keeping the sales centre site for their own development and not selling it.
malec
November 17th, 2006, 02:09 AM
im still not sure if there is a plot right next to 23 marina
Well there is now, aedas say in their description that it's located 20m away from the 380m tower :)
CrazyDave
November 17th, 2006, 03:03 AM
Amazing Tower. It's going to be a challege for the contractors. Steel or Concrete?
Dubai_Steve
November 17th, 2006, 03:33 AM
Well there is now, aedas say in their description that it's located 20m away from the 380m tower :)
Why do you think it is next to 23 marina that is 395m. Elite residence is the only 380m tower.
malec
November 17th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Because there's no way this can be 20m away from elite res. Elite res is completely surrounded already
DG
November 17th, 2006, 09:13 AM
a "Business Bayic" design :lol:
cool one, hope it gets built..
AltinD
November 17th, 2006, 11:06 AM
Why do you think it is next to 23 marina that is 395m. Elite residence is the only 380m tower.
23 Marina is 380m according to the tower's website.
malec
November 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM
If you look at the render you'll see there can't be a tower on the left side of it. If it is next to 23 marina it could be next to al seef but could also be on the right side of 23 marina aswell.
AltinD
November 17th, 2006, 11:16 AM
^^ On the RIGHT side of 23Marina is a ROAD.
Dubai_Steve
November 17th, 2006, 02:01 PM
Maybe then it is between Al Seef and 23 Marina in the small gap where the mall was going to be built. It looks like a thin tower so may fit?
dubaiflo
November 17th, 2006, 02:45 PM
i bet this will be to the left of 23marina two plots right of mag218, however if dubaiflyer is right and he might be since trident is keen on prime location.. then .. :runaway: oh my. not sure.
Dubai_Steve
November 17th, 2006, 02:50 PM
^^ :bash: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Dubai_Steve
November 17th, 2006, 06:13 PM
Actually if you look at the render, it is placed exactly on the emaar sales centre plot directly in front of the Torch ! :grouphug:
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3521/untitled1kv7.jpg
Also I have confirmation that the tower in front of the torch will be more than 25 stories.
If this is pushed up very close to the Torch then there would also be room for another tower in front of this one!
thedubailife
November 17th, 2006, 06:53 PM
When have any of these renders actually been true to life. I see what your saying but it does sort of contradict the text. So maybe even they are confused or the other tower near it will be 380M and we don't know about it.
Hollie Maea
November 18th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Well, obviously they bumped up the height of The Torch to 380
(kidding) (I think)
AhChuan
November 18th, 2006, 01:55 AM
Waoh!! Another residense tower!! Really impress me!! I gonna live on the top...penthouse..hehehe.
godexter91
November 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM
really awesome design!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Dubai_Steve
November 18th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Any news on the plot location? It does not make sense to build this next to 23 marina as it would not have very good views and therefore be difficult to sale. More likely it will be directly in front of the Torch with the gardens facing the Torch allowing space to breath and the front facing the marina ?
But then again it says its neighbour is only 20m away and the project was designed to fit comfortably into this context by concentrating on the negative space between the 2 towers? Which other tower has negative space?
dubaiflo
November 18th, 2006, 08:09 PM
well it might be 23 marina since it is turned 45degree, e.g not wall to wall facing to a possible other tower.
eng_kheffa
November 19th, 2006, 04:26 PM
could they construct it ?!!!
dubaiflyer
November 22nd, 2006, 09:18 AM
Well apologies for the inaccurate info..... Trident had hoped to buy Emaar sales centre site but they decided to keep it.
Trident Tower will be going behind Al Seef and will be above the anticipated Mall which will form part of the Trident development. This will allow the tower to be positioned further away from some of its neighbours - up to 80 metres or so. Contrary to the info in the first post here, it seems the overall tower will be 110 floors - including around 9 levels of commercial at its base -, and will be approximately 440 metres tall.
Just as an indication, this shows roughly where I think the tower will be.
http://i15.tinypic.com/2gsirud.jpg
Stephan23
November 22nd, 2006, 10:40 AM
:omg: very great info. 440 is a lot!! :okay:
Stephan23
November 22nd, 2006, 11:21 AM
Is it possible, that this tower will replace this proposal?? Also 110 floors!
http://www.dimensions-ec.com/News/Image/04.jpg
AltinD
November 22nd, 2006, 11:21 AM
Well apologies for the inaccurate info..... Trident had hoped to buy Emaar sales centre site but they decided to keep it.
Trident Tower will be going behind Al Seef and will be above the anticipated Mall which will form part of the Trident development. This will allow the tower to be positioned further away from some of its neighbours - up to 80 metres or so. Contrary to the info in the first post here, it seems the overall tower will be 110 floors - including around 9 levels of commercial at its base -, and will be approximately 440 metres tall.
Just as an indication, this shows roughly where I think the tower will be.
http://i15.tinypic.com/2gsirud.jpg
You (wrongly) placed the tower as it will be ON THE SIDE of Al Seef and NOT behind it (between Al Seef and 23Marina).
GoDubai!
November 22nd, 2006, 02:11 PM
This is starting to sound very interesting. If it is a part of the mall complex that would create a lot more latitude in tower placement, as opposed to limiting it to the restricted positions of the few remaining plots in that block. Furthermore, if it really is integrated with the mall then you could have a very interesting complex--especially if both are designed to compliment one another architecturally. Imagine a mall blending into the new tower creating a focal point in this otherwise hodge-podge block of tall towers. Similar to how the Burj Dubai and Dubai Mall will form a focal point for Emaar's Downtown, this tower and mall could do something like that for the tallest block.
Really looking forward to getting more details on this one!
dubaiflo
November 22nd, 2006, 05:21 PM
so Trident is involved in the mall.. well they also have aqua moda at marinascape.
rather interesting.
altin i do think he intended to put the tower where it is now. behind al seef might not mean directly behind it (e.g in line)
anyway this looks quite awesome.
Dubai_Steve
November 22nd, 2006, 05:36 PM
Yes I think this may be in the 'shopping mall strip' that is why the design is thin.
malec
November 22nd, 2006, 06:07 PM
Interesting news. So trident will build both the tower and the mall?
So will it be something like this?
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2584/untitled1nc6.jpg
yecabel
November 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
the upper marina will look amazing once all towers are completed.
AltinD
November 22nd, 2006, 07:12 PM
We even have a thread for the Mall, called Aqua Moda. Here's a press release posted by Krazy there:
Trident unveils exclusive retail space at Dubai Marina
In a strategic initiative that reinforces its real estate portfolio and steps up retail space in the city's most prestigious waterfront developments, leading real estate development company, Trident International Holdings (TIH) unveiled, innovative, upscale waterfront retail concepts at its luxury freehold residential projects at Dubai Marina.
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/8/22558-aqua.jpg
Aqua Moda at Marinascape.
With this move, TIH emerges as among the first few in Dubai Marina to have premium residential and leisure spaces interlace with contemporary retail offerings at its Bayside Residence, Marinascape and Trident Grand Residence projects. Once complete Silverstone Holdings, a reputed retail management company will take over 'Aqua Moda' the branded retail space at the Marinascape, Trident's second project.
Announcing this development, Mr. Wazir Daredia, Executive Director & CEO - TIH said, 'With Dubai Marina being largely dominated by residential towers, we felt the need for superior retail space where our residents as well as the extended community could have shopping options in an environment that will be truly one of its kind. Our retail offerings, are designed keeping in mind up-market and waterfront living lifestyle as well as taking into consideration ambiance and the need of urban class residents.'
Commenting further Mr. Daredia said, 'Trident's retail initiatives spread over 90,000 cumulative square feet, featuring distinctive quality and taste, will set new benchmarks adding significant value to our portfolio of real estate offerings. We will have only the best from its class setting up shop, from fashion brands and concept stores to international gourmet and culinary facilities. To ensure this, we have partnered with Silverstone Holdings, leaders in retail management in the region for our Marinascape retail endeavour'
Commenting on the partnership with TIH, Mr. Suneel Sahni, Chief Executive - Silverstone Holdings said, "Much like Trident's luxurious residential offerings its retail space stands out amidst the breathtaking background of the Marina. We have interesting plans for our acquisition at Marinascape, we intend transforming this space to be the most sought after retail area within the Marina community. Within the next two years, this waterfront will be home to a unique selection of world famous brands."
Dubai Marina is one of the most solicited waterfront addresses in the world and the retail sector will play a very vital role in bring out the essence and experience of true waterfront living. This retail sector in the UAE is witnessing unprecedented growth, driven by high per capita spends, increasing tourist inflow and a young, brand conscious population.
'All Trident's projects offer choicest of living features for the luxury sensitive communities. With the addition of our high profile retail offerings within our developments, we hope to redefine lifestyle making luxurious and complete living a dream come true,' said Mr. Wazir Daredia.
As of date, Trident International Holdings have launched four luxury freehold residential projects all located at the Dubai Marina. The Waterfront is a boutique 20-story tower that is nearing completion. The second project is the twin tower Marinascape comprising of two grand residential towers, the 35 storey 'Oceanic' and the 25 storey 'Avant' towers, cumulatively comprising of over 200 waterfront condominiums along with Marina Homes. Bayside Residence is the third project that shoots up 22 floors, while Trident Grand Residence is the latest 45 story project comprising of 253 magnificent condominiums & luxury penthouses.
TIH is a global group engaged in diversified corporate activities with presence in major cities worldwide. TIH was incorporated with a committed focus on up-market and super luxury living and has since revolutionized this concept of 'luxury living' in the Middle East. Trident has pioneered some bold concepts related to up market luxury living, most of which are benchmarks in the industry.
Dubai_Steve
November 22nd, 2006, 07:49 PM
I wonder if the 9 levels of commercial at its base will be shopping or offices or both ?
I am not sure if Trident will be doing any part of a mall outside of the tower. The article above refers to Aqua Moda which is at Marinascape.
DiscoPiratePolarBear
November 22nd, 2006, 09:19 PM
is there a possibility that one (or more) of the three 'unknown' towers being supertalls, i think the 'unknown' between the torch and marina heights will exceed 300M, any ideas?
malec
November 22nd, 2006, 09:27 PM
^^ Almost certainly will
ZZ-II
November 22nd, 2006, 09:27 PM
i hope the 3 free plots will include supertalls
BTW: Trident Tower added to Emporis?
dubaiflyer
November 22nd, 2006, 11:16 PM
It may well be in the position shown on Malec's site plan. Seems logical....
dubaiflo
November 23rd, 2006, 01:19 AM
The AQUA MODA mall will be in MARINASCAPE.
it is NOT this development.
and i am not sure if they will include the tower in the mall, e.g if Trident will be responsible for the mall.
what i think is that the basement levels might become part of the mall, kinda intergrated basement, but the tower itself is situated on one of the regular plots, i still say two plots right of mag.
dubaiflyer
November 23rd, 2006, 08:08 AM
Flo, the TT will definitely be behind Al Seef.
Dubai_Steve
November 23rd, 2006, 12:16 PM
will it be exactly between Al Seef and 23 Marina or in the bigger gap shown above by malec ?
dubaiflo
November 23rd, 2006, 05:08 PM
behind al seef, the line drawn from Mag 218 to 23 Marina is also "behind al seef". that is what i mean.
malec
November 24th, 2006, 11:12 PM
This has been taken off the aedas site btw
Stephan23
November 25th, 2006, 02:27 AM
:bash: To nice to be true!! :doh:
malec
November 25th, 2006, 02:33 AM
^^ That doesn't mean anything. The developers probably just wanted the info taken off the site while they're still developing the project. The exact same thing happened with ocean heights 2
Dubai_Steve
November 25th, 2006, 03:05 AM
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Dubai-Lover
November 25th, 2006, 01:31 PM
why are you guys so excited about a proposal
for me this will not get built
at least wait for it to be launched
dubaiflo
November 25th, 2006, 01:44 PM
i do think it will be built.
i am convinced actually.
dubaiflyer
November 26th, 2006, 10:09 AM
This is a definite, live project. Aedas were not supposed to have released any info since Trident wanted to reveal the project withn a flourish at Cityscape, and that is why it is no longer on their website. Also it seems the info was not accurate.
Krazy
November 28th, 2006, 06:21 PM
i do think it will be built.
i am convinced actually.
why are u "convinced" ?
dubaiflo
November 29th, 2006, 10:47 PM
enough evidence.
Krazy
November 29th, 2006, 10:52 PM
n what evidence is that?
dubaiflyer
December 1st, 2006, 09:28 AM
C'mon Krazy, do you think my info was total guesswork? Flo's right to believe...
While I have to respect my contact's request re confidentiality, I understand that Trident have carried out a great deal of the work that in Dubai so often takes place AFTER the launch and sales have taken place.
Matters such as structural work, foundation design, modelling and wind testing have already been done by top specialists in the far east and the US. Trident aren't messing about with the type of Ocean Heights 1&2 claptrap - pretty pictures and then nothing for years while they deal with all the pre-construction fundamentals - they appear to be doing things the right way round........hopefully!
Anyway, Cityscape is next week, and we shall see. I wish I was going to be there....
Michiel
March 13th, 2007, 10:03 PM
This link (http://www.architectenweb.nl/aweb/redactie/redactie_detail.asp?iNID=9021&iNTypeID=55) was posted on the Dutch section of Skyscrapercity. According to the article the tower will be 516m tall with 120 floors.
Krazy
March 13th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Poor attempt at translation:
In Dubai is the design revealed by the most woontoren in the world. The through Aedas designed building is the first in a series 'Pentominiums', that their inhabitants offer unprecedented luxury and privileges. The tower becomes 516 meters high and comes to stand nearby high building paradise Dubai Marina.
Although the tower is 120 floors high, will it as for inhabitants number no world records break. Every apartment takes namely a complete building layer (more than 600 square meter) in possession. Pentominium is a samentrekking of penthouse and condominium, and an excess at luxury offers. As every inhabitant an own foyer has and uitkijkplatform.
The necessary the inhabitants can wanted to find in among many an 'own' theater, squashbaan or Sky Pole. Further see to she over a janitor service, that 24 hour per day, over the whole world, before they ready state. Thanks to a number of affairs alliances can they also use make of a Rolls Royce, or someone else topmerk car. Even trips with a hunt over the Persian Wave is by the buying of a Pentominium included.
The tower becomes otherwise seven meters more high than the Taipei 101.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/640/52843474tf7.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4402/70232238ct1.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3018/13702245rr9.jpg
True Blue
March 13th, 2007, 10:12 PM
^^ Tall story. :)
At this height and that slender, this tower is going to need some serious foundations capable of resisting tension forces! Maybe the basement will be 200m deep (not).
Krazy
March 13th, 2007, 10:16 PM
did i understand that right? each floor will be one apartment? trident has gone bonkers
amerzak
March 13th, 2007, 10:20 PM
This tower looks cool and futuristic...but don't you think it is in the wrong place...look at the surrounding buildings...(just an opinion).
ZZ-II
March 13th, 2007, 10:20 PM
and i've thought this project is Dead
True Blue
March 13th, 2007, 10:26 PM
^^ Krazy, Looks about right but the rest of the translation has got me a little tickled.
:nuts: "inhabitants can wanted to find in among many an 'own' theater, squashbaan or Sky Pole." :wtf:
Krazy
March 13th, 2007, 10:30 PM
Sky Pole is a fancy name for a pole with dancers on the terrace
Imre
March 13th, 2007, 10:32 PM
there is a big plot between MAG218 and 23 Marina.
True Blue
March 13th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Sky Pole is a fancy name for a pole with dancers on the terrace
Now your thinking like a man..:okay:
I thought it was for attaching your sky dish to.
Michiel
March 13th, 2007, 10:47 PM
^Funny translation :D
The inhabitants have facilities like a theater, squash court and sky pool.
Dubai_Steve
March 13th, 2007, 10:50 PM
wow, so this will be like Le Reve, very expensive apartment which include free use of rolls royce and yatch etc. and even a sky pole :D ^^
Looks like flo guess the location correctly and is not in front of the torch :D
malec
March 14th, 2007, 12:23 AM
WOW!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:
Dubai_Steve
March 14th, 2007, 02:15 AM
The most luxurious design in the world has been revealed in Dubai. The Aedus designed building is the first is a series of 'Pentominiums; that offer their inhabitants unprecedented luxury and privileges. The tower will be 516 meters high and will be located in the high rise paradise of Dubai Marina.
Although the tower is 120 floors high, it does not break any records for the total number of inhabitants. Every apartment consists of a complete floor of the building (more than 600 sq m). Pentominium is a combination of penthouse and condominium, and offers an excess of luxury. Every inhabitant has their own foyer.
The owners will want for nothing with their 'own' theater, squash court, swimming pool and 24 hour per day butler service. Thanks to a number of alliances owners can make use of a Rolls Royce or high-end sports car of their choice. Even sailing trips on luxury yatchs over the Persian Gulf are included with the purchase of a Pentominium.
The tower will become seven meters higher than the Taipei 101.
Dubai_Steve
March 14th, 2007, 02:38 AM
Aedus are the same architects used for ocean heights 1 and 2.
malec
March 14th, 2007, 02:50 AM
This proposal's insane! 120 floors in the marina? Would love for this to get built but honestly, is there enough of a market for this type of tower?
Dubai_Steve
March 14th, 2007, 03:26 AM
Only 120 sales needed :D Plenty of rich and famous or drug dealers with money to launder. Anyway, Le Reve sold quite easily. Lots of money in Abu Dhabi, some locals may want a pad in Dubai Marina.
Croat
March 14th, 2007, 03:34 AM
516 m?! Higher than curent highest Tapei 101, great! :banana:
AltinD
March 14th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Aedus are the same architects used for ocean heights 1 and 2.
No AEDUS is just a nonexisting word that you "invented" yourself ... It will be good to be the name of the replacement car for the Yaris though. :bash:
:D
Tractor
March 14th, 2007, 12:24 PM
http://www.24dash.com/news/7/17876/index.htm
dubaiquote
March 14th, 2007, 01:39 PM
Not sure where to put this but here goes
http://www.24dash.com/communities/17876.htm
http://www.24dash.com/_images/news/17876/m_pentonium_dubai2.jpg
Plans for the world’s tallest residential tower - the Pentonium in Dubai - have been unveiled today.
Trident International Holdings has partnered to create unique alliances with premium brands from across the world for its new 516 metre-tall tower, a development they describe as the 'defined height of luxury'.
The top floors of this world’s only Pentominium will contain a Sky Lounge, Sky Pool, Business Centre and a private observation deck along with ladies & gentleman’s health clubs and a cigar lounge, squash courts, a banqueting hall and private theatre.
Each individual residential unit will take up a complete floor of the tower providing over 6500 sq.ft. of living space.
Each floor will have a private foyer of its own and smart biometric access control.
Taking the element of luxury living spaces to another level are entire floors which are uniquely suspended in mid air, giving the impression of floating penthouses in the sky.
“Our aim is to create the new benchmark in luxury living,” said Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, Mr Wazir Ali Daredia.
“This aim is reflected in all our projects and is what differentiates Trident and its projects. Through the alliances we have partnered with for Pentominium, along with the uniqueness of this proposition, we will achieve this.
“The building will be iconic, and its residents exclusive. They will be living in a piece of history.
“Trident’s strategy has always been to offer innovative luxury features combined with premium waterfront location, and the Pentominium development is the very expression of this.”
Trident is positioned and acknowledged internationally as a boutique developer of successful and highly visible residential towers in Dubai, including Marinascape, Bayside Residence and the Trident Grand Residence.
Like Trident’s other projects, Pentominium will be no more than 500 metres from the waterfront at Dubai marina; the centrepiece of new Dubai.
Daredia added: “Our background in luxury goods demonstrates our precision and finesse, our understanding of true opulence. We do not sell towers, we provide a lifestyle.”
Pentominium is being designed by award winning and world renowned architects and designers Aedas. Based in Britain, with offices around the world Aedas is responsible for a number of striking buildings and developments in Dubai and across the Gulf already.
Interior design of Pentominium will be undertaken by Hirsch Bedner & Associates, exclusive designers of Ritz Carltons, Grand Hyatts & Four Seasons worldwide.
There will be a dedicated Concierge Service by Quintessentially, the international private members club, which will be available 24 hours a day to meet residents’ needs whether locally or across the world.
Through a series of unique alliances Pentominium owners will have the rights to use a fleet of premium automobiles including a Rolls-Royce Phantom that comes as part of the Pentominium experience along with world renowned Azimut yachts for leisurely trips across the Arabian Gulf.
The tower’s spa will be run by Six Senses Spas, the operators of a number of premium world class health resorts around the world including the multi-award winning Soneva Fushi in the Maldives, itself one of the top 10 spas in the world according to Forbes.
All public areas will be crystallized by Swarovski and each Pentominium unit will be fitted with state of the art sound equipment Bang & Olufsen can provide.
Pentominium’s business lounge (overlooking The Palm) will be accessorized by exclusive Tiffany accessories.
THE DUBAI GUYS
March 14th, 2007, 02:17 PM
WOHA!!! so its next to 23 Marina?
R
Krazy
March 14th, 2007, 03:07 PM
^^ yup
Krazy
March 14th, 2007, 03:29 PM
added to emporis as a "proposal".. will change to approved when released officially
Dubai_Steve
March 14th, 2007, 03:38 PM
:) WEBSITE HERE: http://www.pentominium.com/
Krazy, needs to be renamed to Pentominium.
Pentonium is a chemical :D
Krazy
March 14th, 2007, 03:45 PM
wow this is for real then! awesome! :cheers:
Stephan23
March 14th, 2007, 04:09 PM
:eek: I also thought, this tower is dead.
516 m is an unbelievable height. Look at the Burj Dubai at the moment and then add 116 meters :D:D:D:D:D WOW!!!!! :omg:
Hey Imre, can you make a photo of the plot between Mag & 23 Marina? THX
Julito-dubai
March 14th, 2007, 05:20 PM
so it is the same as the "Trident Tower" Proposal as we have seen before...:nuts:
malec
March 14th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Only 120 sales needed :D Plenty of rich and famous or drug dealers with money to launder. Anyway, Le Reve sold quite easily. Lots of money in Abu Dhabi, some locals may want a pad in Dubai Marina.
But wasn't everything selling pretty back when le reve was released? However this isn't your average tower and the market for this is probably different to the usual so might do well. Hopefully it does sell so that it gets built! Good to see this proposed by trident and not damac though since they're much more likely to build it, and sell it too since they've a much better reputation :)
Krazy
March 14th, 2007, 07:48 PM
^^ believe it or not most people in Dubai have this false notion that Damac is the best developer in Dubai, because of their massive advertising and free jaguars
dubaiflo
March 14th, 2007, 08:11 PM
i told you it is going to happen and i even told you about the location - HA! ;)
anyway this is awesome news but once again pushes the completion date of the tallest block much further back.
i think there could still be a market for this, depending on the prices. we will see what happens.
Hanna
March 14th, 2007, 08:13 PM
^^ believe it or not most people in Dubai have this false notion that Damac is the best developer in Dubai, because of their massive advertising and free jaguars
Hi Krazy
I have said that for a long time now about there adds have brainwashed
the people that much they now think they are the best in the business,when in fact they are very near the worst,great what modern spin does nowadays you can get a way with anything if you put the right add men on the job.:cheers:
cyborg81
March 15th, 2007, 07:50 AM
i like this tower overall but the name sounds like some radioactive element missing from the periodic table :D
cyborg81
March 15th, 2007, 07:51 AM
i like this tower overall but the name sounds like a radioactive element missing from the periodic table :D
Citystyle
March 15th, 2007, 10:17 AM
I would love to buy but i guess the apartments will be um expensive.
Adi-Romania(Boston)
March 15th, 2007, 02:57 PM
Awesome....Dubai is becoming Coruscant :-D How many 300+ metre buildings are there supposed to be in dubai in 20 years?
DUBAI
March 15th, 2007, 03:07 PM
It will never work i tell you NEVER!
grrrraahhhh!
Stephan23
March 15th, 2007, 03:23 PM
^^Why??
what?
March 15th, 2007, 03:27 PM
according to al bayan newspaper there will be 2 towers not one
http://www.albayan.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=Article&cid=1172576057897&pagename=Albayan%2FArticle%2FFullDetail
thedubailife
March 15th, 2007, 03:31 PM
^^ Can you translate it a little, Maybe it's talking about 2 different towers and this being one of them
Dubai_Steve
March 15th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Here is google's effort (nod bad!)
Starting construction work at the highest residential tower in Dubai end of the year start work late this year, the highest residential tower in Dubai, the news agency Bloomberg news of the statement of the Trident International Holdings Company, as saying on the sidelines of the mipim real estate was in France, that the building with a height of 516 meters (1693 feet) includes towers, each rising 120 storeys. A total of 160 apartments and two apartments, each apartment is fully storeys area in 5600 the educator, to be known as the Bentominyum. For his part, the minister said Daridan, Executive President of the Trident, in a private interview with Bloomberg that there is a section of people have the capacity to buy the flats. He added that the pattern of living wished to sell, and said that the Trident furnished in the building.
Stephan23
March 15th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Each rising 120 storeys :eek: For real??
ZZ-II
March 15th, 2007, 04:20 PM
OMG, now we've two megatalls :eek:
thedubailife
March 15th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Amazing, i'd love to buy in one of those two, They gonna be centre piece of Tall block.
Krazy
March 15th, 2007, 04:53 PM
this is madness
Stephan23
March 15th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Krazy, have you add the second one to emporis too? If not, can you do it?? THX
Dubai_Steve
March 15th, 2007, 07:17 PM
I am not sure there are 2. Could be a confusion in the translation?
thedubailife
March 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM
^^ but What? mentioned two unless he did google translation as well. Where are the arabs when you need one...LOL
Julito-dubai
March 15th, 2007, 08:00 PM
yes I wouldn't rely on google translation...
Anyone who can translate from the Arab original?
Julito-dubai
March 15th, 2007, 08:08 PM
they say in the headlines, that it will rise at the end of the year
mikering
March 15th, 2007, 11:09 PM
u mean that they will build 2X this beauty?
DUBAI
March 15th, 2007, 11:16 PM
I doubt their are 2. why would they render one when their are 2 towers? :bash:
dubaiflo
March 16th, 2007, 12:04 AM
i doubt there will be two. this would be really mad..
Plet
March 16th, 2007, 12:05 AM
Originally Posted by Dubai_Steve
Only 120 sales needed Plenty of rich and famous or drug dealers with money to launder. Anyway, Le Reve sold quite easily. Lots of money in Abu Dhabi, some locals may want a pad in Dubai Marina.
I think you are right. It seems there are no balconies, and locals do not care for balconies as much as Europeans...
DUBAI
March 16th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Why does the thread title say 2? there is nothing in that article to confirm anything. it could so easily be a mistranslation.
i guess this forum runs on hearsay now.
maybe i should mistranslate a burj dubai article which says there will be 42 burj dubai's...
Why 42?, well its the answer.
THE DUBAI GUYS
March 16th, 2007, 12:22 AM
mine says 2 as well but i think its wrong:
Start the work the current year end, in the highest a residential tower in Dubai and moved the informational (bloumbeergh) agency of a statement, for the (traeednt) company Holdengh (éntrnashounal) , saying aside from the mipim conference. Real in in France, the building which reaches height 516 meters a height embraces two towers ( 1693 foot), all from them 120 floors..
R
DUBAI
March 16th, 2007, 12:46 AM
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/640/52843474tf7.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4402/70232238ct1.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3018/13702245rr9.jpg
3 renders one tower...
maybe they are planning a second one depending on how this one sells, but otherwise why release reders like this for 2 towers?
Dubai_Steve
March 16th, 2007, 01:34 AM
Remember this?
http://i10.tinypic.com/2h4zv2v.jpg
It says there are 2 apartments per floor. Might be they mean this is like 2 separate towers moulded into one ?
cyborg81
March 16th, 2007, 02:08 AM
hey guys how u doin?
just got fresh news from a mate whose uncle is a consultant at trident.these will infact be 2 towers 516 meters each fused together using a unique technology creating one single tower.so these are basically 2 X 120 floor towers fused together an analog to this concept would be the W16 engine of the bugatti veyron where to V8's are fused in unison.
i also found this news artcile in boomberg:
Trident Will Build World's Tallest Residential Tower in Dubai
March 13 (Bloomberg) -- Construction of the world's tallest residential tower will start in Dubai by the end of the year, with the 160 apartments each selling for a minimum of $2.4 million.
The 516 meter-building (1,693 feet) will have two 120-storey towers, with a total of 160 apartments. Each apartment, known as a pentominium will occupy at least one floor and will have at least 6,500 square feet of space, closely held Trident International Holdings said today at the MIPIM real estate conference in Cannes, France.
For more news on real estate in the UAE, see {TNI UAE REL BN <GO>.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=NTV:IM&sid=aDSwRF8H.5Gwscroll down in the middle of the page.
Dubai_Steve
March 16th, 2007, 02:18 AM
Thanks cyborg. But what is the difference between 2 towers moulded together with 1 apartment per floor each and one tower with 2 apartments per floor ?
Dubai_Steve
March 16th, 2007, 03:29 AM
http://i17.tinypic.com/43qq5he.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7135/pentosw9.jpg
malec
March 16th, 2007, 04:21 AM
I wonder how the hell will they be able to make a profit on this tower? This'll definitely run into costs of over $1bn so that means about 7 or 8 million per apartment.
Also how this became 2 towers I don't get? :weird: Even if it has two cores it doesn't matter, al burj is 3 towers but we only count it as one.
Croat
March 16th, 2007, 04:59 AM
this is madness
Madness? This is Spa... DUBAI! :D
cyborg81
March 16th, 2007, 05:18 AM
we need a proper front and back render.i'm sick of these side renders that are hiding so much detail! :bash:
Chad
March 16th, 2007, 05:34 AM
Beyond imagination!!!
Stephan23
March 16th, 2007, 11:50 AM
hey guys how u doin?
just got fresh news from a mate whose uncle is a consultant at trident.these will infact be 2 towers 516 meters each fused together using a unique technology creating one single tower.so these are basically 2 X 120 floor towers fused together an analog to this concept would be the W16 engine of the bugatti veyron where to V8's are fused in unison.
i also found this news artcile in boomberg:
Trident Will Build World's Tallest Residential Tower in Dubai
March 13 (Bloomberg) -- Construction of the world's tallest residential tower will start in Dubai by the end of the year, with the 160 apartments each selling for a minimum of $2.4 million.
The 516 meter-building (1,693 feet) will have two 120-storey towers, with a total of 160 apartments. Each apartment, known as a pentominium will occupy at least one floor and will have at least 6,500 square feet of space, closely held Trident International Holdings said today at the MIPIM real estate conference in Cannes, France.
For more news on real estate in the UAE, see {TNI UAE REL BN <GO>.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=NTV:IM&sid=aDSwRF8H.5Gwscroll down in the middle of the page.
THX for the great info cyborg81!! :master: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Stephan23
March 16th, 2007, 12:05 PM
Same here:
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/business/story.html?id=5c3109b0-9245-4d21-a312-13121f4ad0ba
DUBAI
March 16th, 2007, 02:24 PM
So bacicly its one tower whci they are cliing two so they can say that each apartment takes up an entire floor.
its stupid marketing, and still only one tower.
Dubai-Lover
March 16th, 2007, 03:26 PM
damn, they are going nuts
what an insane project :eek2:
Mosaic
March 16th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Amazing star!!!!!
thedubailife
March 16th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Well does not matter if you call it one or two, the design look different and good, and we know it will be a height of 516m,
So it amazing which every way you look at it.
Naz UK
March 17th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Only in Dubai could you have a company (Tameer) market a tower to sell for the last 2 years as the "tallest residential in the world" and then suddenly have that title snatched from them, before even a single floor has risen!!!! :lol:
dubaiflo
March 17th, 2007, 10:27 PM
^^ idiots. and they did that twice, once on launch, once after the height increase..
anyway so this is one tower basically.. as i said.
malec this tower won't cost 1Bn $ and now look at 240 apts, i guess they'll be able to finance it.
nzGambit
March 18th, 2007, 09:26 AM
Wow!! This tower dwarfs nearly all of the marina.... Any more renders?
malec
March 19th, 2007, 11:39 PM
^^ idiots. and they did that twice, once on launch, once after the height increase..
anyway so this is one tower basically.. as i said.
malec this tower won't cost 1Bn $ and now look at 240 apts, i guess they'll be able to finance it.
Why not? Burj al alam is costing that much, and it's a bit shorter. Also such a thin building at such a height has never been done before.
Anyway, I think they need to move this to business bay.
dubaiflyer
March 21st, 2007, 08:10 PM
Before or after it's built?
dubaiflo
March 22nd, 2007, 02:06 PM
^^ :rofl:
they won't. all trident projects are Res and in the marina to date.. probably focussing on it.
Dubai_Steve
March 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM
:lol: that is a great idea for a new tower concept in Dubai. we have rotating towers already but not ones on wheels that can move to different locations. Makes it difficult to find your apartment after work though. Perhaps 1 month in business bay, 1 month in the marina and so on... :D
Richard Head
March 22nd, 2007, 02:55 PM
:lol: that is a great idea for a new tower concept in Dubai. we have rotating towers already but not ones on wheels that can move to different locations. Makes it difficult to find your apartment after work though. Perhaps 1 month in business bay, 1 month in the marina and so on... :D
Already have difficulty finding my appointment after work, but that's for different reasons :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Richard Head
March 22nd, 2007, 02:57 PM
Already have difficulty finding my appointment after work, but that's for different reasons :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
And my apartment also :cheers: :cheers: :nuts: :nuts:
dubaiflo
March 23rd, 2007, 12:13 AM
^^ drunken british guys here.. :ohno:
Naz UK
March 23rd, 2007, 09:52 AM
Not your type of guys then eh?:naughty:
Imre
April 13th, 2007, 11:32 AM
13/April/2007
The Pentominium plot
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9273/photo041wn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6424/photo042dp1.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo042dp1.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2824/photo043av7.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo043av7.jpg)
dubaiflo
April 13th, 2007, 12:09 PM
nothing before end of the year i guess.
Stephan23
April 13th, 2007, 01:18 PM
End of the year would be great!!! :okay:
AltinD
April 14th, 2007, 11:06 PM
^^ Which year? ;)
DUBAI-Boomtown
April 15th, 2007, 12:21 AM
Good question ! :laugh: :colgate:
ZZ-II
April 16th, 2007, 07:06 PM
this one of course ^^
DUBAI-Boomtown
April 18th, 2007, 02:11 AM
Sure - that´s Dubai ! :righton:
Krazy
May 2nd, 2007, 05:40 PM
have a look at this render
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/640/52843474tf7.jpg
and the latest aerial by Imre
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2465/imresolt048qr7.jpg
looks like they have started to board the site (if the blue boarding seen in the aerial wasnt there in place already) and this should take up the two plots adjacent to MAG 218
AltinD
May 2nd, 2007, 08:13 PM
^^ The blue board has always been there.
scoot68
May 3rd, 2007, 12:36 PM
^^
ooo I can't wait to go a huntin in that woodland in the render :lol:
Stephan23
May 3rd, 2007, 01:30 PM
It is one single tower or not!!! We should change the title to one single tower!!
malec
May 3rd, 2007, 04:44 PM
Yes I'll do that, I don't know why it was put as 2 in the first place.
Krazy
May 3rd, 2007, 04:52 PM
^^ the two towers came from this
http://www.albayan.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=Article&cid=1172576057897&pagename=Albayan%2FArticle%2FFullDetail
malec
May 7th, 2007, 03:16 AM
Flo, any chance you could contact trident and get some floor plans (so I can model this :))? I'm sure you'd have a better chance than me at getting them since you're already connected with them through marinascape.
dubaiflo
May 7th, 2007, 03:46 PM
i'll try as soon as i can..
i want to enquire with them anyway..
malec
May 7th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Thanks.
If possible try and get floor plans from a few different sections of the tower. Also a render from the front showing the pods properly would be nice :)
malec
May 15th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Large render. Have also now got 3 floorplans so will start to model this at the end of the week
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5226/tridentuz0.jpg
Krazy
May 15th, 2007, 01:37 PM
^^ thanks, can you post the floor plans here as well?
malec
May 15th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Sure.
There are 2 apartments per floor not one, except near the top and in the really thin sections where there's just one.
I don't think there's any difference between type B and C
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4931/trident1is3.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4931/trident1is3.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7264/trident3lj4.jpg
And a little comparrison:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9769/trident4dr8.jpg
Krazy
May 15th, 2007, 02:54 PM
first off, it shows 510m and not 516m
secondly.. second tallest tower in the world? really?
malec
May 15th, 2007, 03:15 PM
I don't think the idea of that is to say it's the 2nd tallest, instead just to show some comparrison. You can see they haven't put in SWFC in there either. About the 510m, I'd go with the less rounded number myself :cheers:
edit: And as for 2nd tallest that's still possible if it started NOW. If it doesn't start soon it won't even become the world's tallest res since the Chicago Spire is due to begin any time.
whonose
May 15th, 2007, 03:39 PM
Just discovered that there was no article on Pentominium on Wikipedia!
I made a rushed attempt at putting one together, but I am sure I got a few things wrong, or could add some more. Feel free to go and edit it, or throw corrections and additions my way!
Gregorious
May 15th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Wikipedia is crazy!!! Someone removed the whole article on sri lanka, its back though!
Dubai-Lover
May 15th, 2007, 10:10 PM
the architect for this one seems to be aedas
dubaiflo
May 16th, 2007, 12:06 AM
^^ i somehow think i knew this? did we read of it?
malec
May 16th, 2007, 12:47 AM
duh
AltinD
May 16th, 2007, 01:54 PM
^^ x2
dubaiflo
May 17th, 2007, 02:57 AM
^^ sorry i am in the middle of exams :D i am not 100% up to date.. :D
THE DUBAI GUYS
May 18th, 2007, 09:04 AM
big ad in GN...double page...no pic of the tower though...
http://i16.tinypic.com/62zt17k.jpg
R
GoDubai!
May 19th, 2007, 01:22 AM
As exciting as this project is it is regrettably following the same ole' course of development that is giving Dubai a bad name. First there are all the pre-launch leaks, speculation and even sales--it seems that there was a pre-launch in Cannes on this one and already units are being offered for sale by real estate agents. Then comes the big launch and more sales. All this happens before ground has yet been broken. Then the unfortunate early investors begin the long wait and speculation drama.
Promised construction doesn't even start for months. A year and longer from launch to actual construction start is woefully common. So there's a big delay right out of the starting gate. Then the piling goes on for months with likely further delays.
The Pentominium, as exciting as it sounds, looks set to repeat this frustrating pattern. Why don't these guys not launch until construction has actually started? The Dubai government is remiss by not requiring this by law. In fact, no sales should be allowed until the main contractor has begun work on the project. Only then will the always promised 2-year construction timetable have any chance of being met.
Hollie Maea
May 19th, 2007, 01:38 AM
Then the unfortunate early investors begin the long wait and speculation drama.
No one forces investors to buy in these things at the very beginning. If you invest in one of these buildings, you know it is going to be forever and a day before it's finished, and you KNOW there will be delays from the original optimistic timetables given. Of course the flip side is that you get a better price than you will later and have a chance to make a huge profit. With any investment, risk and return are inversely proportional. If you don't have enough money to throw it into this kind of development and then just sit and wait for a while, you probably don't have any business investing in such things and should stick to smaller safer investments.
malec
May 19th, 2007, 03:04 AM
To be honest what developer apart from big ones like emaar would be able to start a tower without any sales whatsoever? Thing is, it's perfectly normal for a building to start a year after launch or maybe even a bit more. What's not normal though are the rediculous claims by the developers for the completion dates. Example, burj al alam was launched in 2006 and said they'd complete it by 2009. What a load of shit! First of all, they have to sort out contractors, etc. do all sorts of soil tests, the infrastructure near the site doesn't even exist yet, at 480m tall it'd be the world's 2nd tallest building, and so on. It's just crazy to assume it'd be finished, done and dusted in this amount of time.
The pentominium is no different, since it's 516m high it'll take ages to complete. Something like 2013 seems likely.
Hollie Maea
May 19th, 2007, 04:06 AM
^^ Agreed. If I actually had money to invest, I would make my own estimations about when it would be completed, and would ask myself if I wanted to wait that long regardless of what fake dates the developer claimed. But that doesn't mean that these aren't good (though risky) investments for people who have money they can sit on for several years
True Blue
May 19th, 2007, 12:55 PM
................. If you invest in one of these buildings, you know it is going to be forever and a day before it's finished, and you KNOW there will be delays from the original optimistic timetables given.
There are new investors coming to Dubai every day. The Cannes launch suggests the targeting of people with plenty of money who don't spend a lot of their time doing market research.
This tower could be around 7 years in the making as the design has never been done before. The foundations could take 1 year alone as I expect tension piles with under-reaming in the rock as part of the design. (May be they haven't solved that problem yet and I've just given them a possible solution for free :lol:)
AltinD
May 19th, 2007, 08:12 PM
^^ Maybe that will be worth same as the price of the apartment on the first floor, facing 23Marina.
If they offer you that (as compensation), would you refuse? :D
True Blue
May 19th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Never look a gift horse in the mouth. ;)
THE DUBAI GUYS
May 20th, 2007, 12:24 PM
pics from todays ad:
http://i9.tinypic.com/5yrfgj9.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/4mankep.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/4xw3yi1.jpg
R
dubaiflo
May 20th, 2007, 09:37 PM
wow those companies..
how will they all be involved..
this could really turn out awesome..
scoot68
May 21st, 2007, 06:14 AM
I'm guessing Rolls for the concierge, the rest have shops in around the base :)
AltinD
May 21st, 2007, 10:00 AM
^^ Products from the rest will be used on the Apartments.
guy_in_dubai
May 21st, 2007, 02:52 PM
parents went to the launch last night. it was said to be "frickin amazing" with dancer troupes, fireworks, opera singing and all kinds of stuff. 160 floors..and said to be the tallest residential tower in the world.
Blizzy
May 21st, 2007, 03:48 PM
^^ 160? Is that a typo, or what?
whonose
May 21st, 2007, 04:04 PM
I thought it was 160 apartments spread over 120 floors, maybe that was the reference.
Tractor
May 21st, 2007, 04:10 PM
Quintisentially is a posh 'concierge' service for the rich and famous - so they can get tickets to events, etc.
Trances
May 21st, 2007, 05:41 PM
not another super tall in this block !
Grubbman
May 21st, 2007, 06:09 PM
dont hold your breath for this thing to be built...........
malec
May 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM
I'm not, but surely seems more likely to see the light of day than ocean heights 2
http://i11.tinypic.com/5x3pcnm.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/4pu1kx0.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4y6wxw7.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/54bvdau.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/6434l05.jpg
GoDubai!
May 21st, 2007, 09:18 PM
^^Looking really good! But it isn't tapered like the Burj Dubai or any of the other tall towers in the world. If anything, it's closest to the former World Trade Center in shape. (Seems like a real engineering challenge--being already upstaged by Burj Dubai, it seems no one is really paying attention.)
Thankfully there will be 23 Marina, Marina 101, Princess and other supertalls nearby. If not, a singularly tall tower like that, without the traditional tapered design, would look really odd.
If it is successfully pitched to the super rich then I can see it succeeding. But one caveat is that unlike the Burj Dubai, which is designed as part of a larger, integrated district--Downtown, Dubai Mall, etc.--this is a rather solitary project on at best a double plot. Rather limited. If it is linked with the T-shaped mall, then the value of this project would be further enhanced.
dubaiflo
May 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM
^^ the rendering is :rofl: again but aside it looks awesome.
and i actually think this will be built, there have been rumours before Trident will have a supertall in the marina, so this has been in the planning stage for a long time and once trident completes more of its other projects, high level investors will see they are representing quality and top of the line products.
malec
May 21st, 2007, 11:54 PM
Check out this:
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1080
zee
May 22nd, 2007, 04:29 AM
good article....i nw finally understand why this tower looks likes a rats arse
THE DUBAI GUYS
May 22nd, 2007, 08:38 AM
Pentominium for Dubai Marina
United Arab Emirates: Monday, May 21 - 2007 at 10:40
Trident International Holdings has launched the 120 storey Pentominium at Dubai Marina. Individual units will occupy an entire floor and will comprise 6,500 sqft of floor space. The Pentominium is being designed by Aedas, while interiors will be provided by Hirsch Bedner Associates; the property will also feature a spa to be managed by Six Senses and residents will have part-ownership on a fleet of cars including a Rolls-Royce Phantom.
R
dubaiflo
May 22nd, 2007, 03:56 PM
^^ that so much upmarket luxury. maybe even outdoing le reve..
awesome.. just amazing. anyone has prices :D
i think i will enquire on it .. :D
Naz UK
May 22nd, 2007, 04:23 PM
I for one hope this one gets built. But only coz NEVER BUILT: PENTOMINIUM, 120F Res, 516m just looks so shit.
Stephan23
May 22nd, 2007, 06:45 PM
NEVER BUILT: PENTOMINIUM, 120F Res, 516m
Hope this will never happen. DANGER!! :goodnight :goodnight :goodnight
A.U.S. arch. Student
May 22nd, 2007, 07:33 PM
I love this tower hope it gets built as soon as possible, its design is among the best ive seen!!! I like the name as well but, if only their location was at the front row of the tallest block with clear uniterrupted views of the palm, someone knock down "marina uncrowned," sell elite residence plot to Trident and put pentominium there where it belongs!!!
GoDubai!
May 22nd, 2007, 08:07 PM
Half of the building will have unobstructed sea and Palm views anyway. I love this tower, too. All that glass and those wierd pods. This tower is stellar!
ZZ-II
May 22nd, 2007, 08:49 PM
I for one hope this one gets built. But only coz NEVER BUILT: PENTOMINIUM, 120F Res, 516m just looks so shit.
would die when i would see that :skull:
^^
malec
May 23rd, 2007, 01:04 AM
Half of the building will have unobstructed sea and Palm views anyway.
The only problem is there's still an empty plot right in front. I think in between al seef and sulfa tower.
malec
May 23rd, 2007, 01:57 AM
Some more info and some interior renders here:
http://www.signaturepropertiesworldwide.com/catalogue.asp?pid=45
Also some prices for flo :)
Dubai_Steve
May 23rd, 2007, 03:37 AM
Actually quite cheap, only 1,400-1,900 AED per sq.ft. Flo are you going to buy one ? :D
Krazy
May 29th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Project features
HBA/Hirsch Bedner & Associates
World renowned interior designers
Exclusive designers of the Ritz Carltons, Grand Hyatts & Four Seasons worldwide
For the Pentominium, they lend their exquisite taste in interiors.
Six Senses Spas
One of the top 10 spas of the world, according to the Forbes
Swaroski chandeliers
Bang & Olufsen
Ouintessentially Reserve, the world-renowned club offering wildly expensive perks. Membership brings the chance to enjoy a collection of goods, services, treats and practical help. Membership also makes you part of the highly exclusive Qube
Residents of the Pentominium allowed exclusive use of Azimut yachts, the Rolls Royce among yachts & Rolls Royce luxury cars.
Unique Features
• Freehold luxe penthouses - luxurious custom designed 4 bedroom penthouses
• 1 penthouse per floor with private foyer (Unit area – approx 6500 sq.ft)
• Separate family lounge with a 40 inch or larger LCD screen along with Bang and Olufsen home theatre sound system pre-installed
• Designer kitchen with built-in appliances & breakfast counter
• Separate maid’s room with built in closets & en suite bath
• 3rd generation home automation systems with touch screen panel - Biometric Access Control Systems
• 3 assigned car parking Spaces
• Chauffeurs quarters with en suite bath
• Utility room with pre-installed washer & dryer
Other Features
• 516m edifice the tallest residential tower in the world
• First time bouquet of premium luxury brands
• Services on the 101st floor - Sky Lounge, Sky Pool, Business Center & Pvt Observation deck
• Cigar lounge (101st level) stocked with Davidoff cigars
• Clubhouse floor (390.6m), men/women health club
• Squash courts, banquet /pre-banquet hall
Prices:
Area in Sq ft: Starting from 6345 sq.ft
Starting from: AED 8,771,117/USD 2,389,950/ GBP 1,235,369
Payment Plan:
I instalment 10% of purchase price at project launch. (Less booking deposits) Due Now
II instalment 10 % of purchase price on 15th August 2007.
III instalment 10% of purchase price on 15th November 2007.
IV instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of raft basement slab. (Estimated around 15th April 2008)
V instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 5th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2008)
VI instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 30th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th March 2009)
VII instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 60th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2009)
Final instalment 30% of purchase price on the delivery date
(Estimated around first quarter 2011)
malec
May 29th, 2007, 05:08 PM
1st quarter fo 2011 my arse! :)
Will start 1st quarter of 2008 most likely, will then take 5 to 6 years to complete :yes:
ZZ-II
May 29th, 2007, 05:16 PM
that sounds good :)
Imre
May 29th, 2007, 06:57 PM
1st quarter fo 2011 my arse! :)
Will start 1st quarter of 2008 most likely, will then take 5 to 6 years to complete :yes:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
that is just a bla-bla...
not before 2013-2014...
Krazy
May 29th, 2007, 10:07 PM
I'm surprised they didn't say "early 2009" :lol:
Krazy
May 29th, 2007, 10:08 PM
btw.. I emailed gowealthy asking for the availability (want to check how fast they are selling), and also the big question - maintenance fee :)
ZZ-II
May 29th, 2007, 10:13 PM
we will se imre ;)
Dubai-Lover
June 3rd, 2007, 07:44 PM
not sure if this has been posted already
http://www.pentominium.com
dubaiflo
June 5th, 2007, 03:59 AM
^^ it has been...
come one end 2009 and 2011 is a difference ;)
However, this will not be done before 2013, i agree.
dubaiflyer
June 5th, 2007, 08:55 AM
Depends on when they start. The floorplates are quite small and repetitive, and once the construction has started, it should go up at a fair pace. If excavation begins this year, it could be finishing sometime in 2011.
Krazy
June 6th, 2007, 02:26 PM
units offered by gowealthy:
http://i7.tinypic.com/63sjw41.jpg
Imre
June 15th, 2007, 11:24 AM
15/June/2007
The Pentominium
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7050/imresolt087vy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6632/imresolt088cv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Krazy
June 15th, 2007, 03:09 PM
i dont expect anything to happen here till next year
Imre
June 22nd, 2007, 11:36 AM
22/June/2007
SZR
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4899/imresolt230wt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3321/imresolt231kt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Stephan23
June 22nd, 2007, 09:16 PM
Good to see, they advertise it!!! :okay:
DUBAI-Boomtown
June 22nd, 2007, 10:26 PM
Location now SZR? :cheers:
ZZ-II
June 23rd, 2007, 06:02 PM
no, of course not ^^
Stephan23
June 23rd, 2007, 06:14 PM
Location now SZR? :cheers:
:doh: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :doh:
Saudi guy
June 24th, 2007, 02:08 AM
great design but Bad Location!!!
Saudi guy
June 24th, 2007, 02:12 AM
oh by the way it's 576 metre tall see here
http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/06/06/pentominium-largest-residential-tower-in-the-world/
Krazy
June 24th, 2007, 02:15 AM
^^ that's a typo probably. the height is 516m.
Dubai_Steve
June 24th, 2007, 03:04 AM
great design but Bad Location!!!
But great view of the palm from high floors and close to the marina walk.
Tate
June 24th, 2007, 05:32 AM
^^ You'll just about have a view of f*****g everything from well over 500m!:lol: :D
Awesome looking building and quite different from its neighbours. Which is a good thing of course (that it's different I mean). Are Trident building this? If they are then that's definitely good news. Should be a quality build then.
So many HUGE towers in this specific area... Hope the Marina doesn't disappear beneath a blanket of concrete... but I'm sure it won't. They know what they're doing I suppose.
malec
July 24th, 2007, 03:43 AM
Has anyone seen this? It shows roughly how they expect the tower to progress.
Payment Plan:
I instalment 10% of purchase price at project launch. (Less booking deposits) Due Now
II instalment 10 % of purchase price on 15th August 2007.
III instalment 10% of purchase price on 15th November 2007.
IV instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of raft basement slab. (Estimated around 15th April 2008)
V instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 5th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2008)
VI instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 30th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th March 2009)
VII instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 60th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2009)
Final instalment 30% of purchase price on the delivery date
(Estimated around first quarter 2011)
If they want to pour the foundation next April then it means they should start digging now! Maybe Imre should keep an eye out for stuff whenever he passes there. I expect 6 months delay before they start as per usual, foundation pouring end of 2008 if all goes well, 5th floor mid 2009, 30th floor (or maybe a little more) by end of 2009. I then expect it to reach floor 70 by end of 2010, reason for slowing down is the pods might be difficult to build and will take time. Topout should be reached by end of 2011 or early 2012, then give it until early 2013 before the tower is kitted out and people start getting their keys.
Imre
July 24th, 2007, 07:49 AM
Has anyone seen this? It shows roughly how they expect the tower to progress.
Payment Plan:
I instalment 10% of purchase price at project launch. (Less booking deposits) Due Now
II instalment 10 % of purchase price on 15th August 2007.
III instalment 10% of purchase price on 15th November 2007.
IV instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of raft basement slab. (Estimated around 15th April 2008)
V instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 5th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2008)
VI instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 30th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th March 2009)
VII instalment 10% of purchase price on completion of the 60th floor slab of the building. (Estimated around 15th November 2009)
Final instalment 30% of purchase price on the delivery date
(Estimated around first quarter 2011)
If they want to pour the foundation next April then it means they should start digging now! Maybe Imre should keep an eye out for stuff whenever he passes there. I expect 6 months delay before they start as per usual, foundation pouring end of 2008 if all goes well, 5th floor mid 2009, 30th floor (or maybe a little more) by end of 2009. I then expect it to reach floor 70 by end of 2010, reason for slowing down is the pods might be difficult to build and will take time. Topout should be reached by end of 2011 or early 2012, then give it until early 2013 before the tower is kitted out and people start getting their keys.
Still nothing happening there, I am using that road (front of the plot) every day , If I see something new I will post :)
Imre
August 3rd, 2007, 11:34 AM
03/Aug/2007
The Pentominium
still nothing
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2906/imresolt078hr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1366/imresolt079lb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Chad
August 8th, 2007, 06:24 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/1051534625_69caaeb10d_o.jpg
GoDubai!
August 8th, 2007, 08:18 PM
nice graphics... any comments, links?
THE DUBAI GUYS
August 10th, 2007, 09:13 PM
Trident to build tower
CONSTRUCTION UAE
10 Aug 2007
Hong Kong-based Trident International Holdings plans to build a 120-floor residential tower at Dubai marina, known as the Pentominium. US-based Hirsch Bedner Associates is the interior designer. The Hong Kong office of Aedas is the consultant. It is Trident’s third project at the Marina, following The Waterfront and the Trident Grand Residence tower.
R
Imre
August 10th, 2007, 09:17 PM
^^
hmm and what about Marinascape and Bayside Residence?:)
maybe fifth project..
Blizzy
August 12th, 2007, 09:59 PM
The colors on that last image are hideous. And what is that thing next to it? Another 500m+?
Tate
August 12th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Any movement at all on this building? It's just awesome!:)
Should be a quality build seeing as Trident are behind this!:banana:
DubaiMarina
August 13th, 2007, 08:07 AM
It is not quality to be late. Every Trident´s projects are VERY late. They should you give their customers what customers want. That is quality.
Tate
August 13th, 2007, 06:34 PM
^^ Well, I'd rather it be late and be top quality than be on schedule and be totally crap! The quality of the build is what really matters here, even more so than being delivered on time! I believe so anyway! Do you want quality or shite for your money?
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