I am fairly new here so "A BIG WHATs UP TO EVERYONE!":)

I know most african countries need a million (plus another million more) things to change, but what 3 major projects would you say needs to be done to drastically change your country? I'll start it:

Country: DR Congo

I would like the new government to

1. Build railways to link the whole country
2. Build major highways across the country
3. Build a hydroelectric dam to finally use its damn potential

I believe with these in place, no matter what happenes a nation will always land on its feet.

Welcome preme :cheers:

Here's what I'd do for Kenya:

1. Airports

Build a large international airport in Nairobi, that could handle 20 million pax. This would be used as a hub, and gateway to the country. Also, the construction of a decent international airport in Mombasa, to handle around 10 million. This would be the entry point for tourists visiting the Indian Ocean coast. Kenya's whole economy is based around business and tourism, so large and efficient airports are important.

2. Highways and Railways

The construction of motorways (well maintained) between the Indian Ocean coastal cities, Mombasa and Nairobi, Nairobi and Kisumu, plus Nairobi branching northward to Thika, Nyeri and beyond. A total reconstruction of roads in urban areas would be nice too. Nairobi needs well-planned bypasses and highways to eliviate the traffic problem. High-speed rail links between Kampala (Uganda), Kisumu, Nairobi and Mombasa would be nice too.

3. Infrastructure and Communications

One thing that Kenya needs is good infrastructure. In some urban areas, the infrastructure is too little to cater for the growing demand. I would lay new sewage tunnels in urban and some rural areas, phone connections across the country, fibre-optic cables nationwide and to other countries (currently being done), a clean constant water supply and a constant electricity supply.

4. Housing

The re-habitation of urban slum-dwellers into nice, small houses with proper sanitation etc. This would be possible after a complete overhaul of the country's infrastructure. Thousands upon thousands of new homes would be needed, but it would be a step in the right direction. Most slum dwellers work, but cannot afford to save for a house.

5. Tourist Resorts

As I said before, tourism is the key to Kenya's economy. A series of well-planned luxury resorts along the Indian Ocean coast would maximise Kenya's tourist potential. I highlight luxury, as it is in Kenya's best interests not to become known as another package-holiday destination. Well built and eco-sensitive tourist facilities in the larger game-reserves would also help.

in sudan i would like to see alot done but here is the list for now:
1-a good highway system linking (khartoum-juba-port sudan- kasala- nyala).
2-a highway system linking sudan with at least (kenya-uganda-CAR-Ethiopia).
3-a railway system linking sudan with central and east africa, and at least major sudanese cities.
4-a good airport in (juba- portsudan- al obyed- khartoum- and al fashir)
5-development of the red sea tourism.
6-development in southern sudan tourism sector
7-a welfare system
8-planting at least 75% of sudan 200 million hectares fertile land.
9-redevolpment of south sudan
and i will finish the list later

Sorry, preme3000, but I can't only have 3 examples with my special situation...:)

Haha...where do I start?

Somalia: My dream plans...probably wont happen anytime soon.

1. Stop this regional/clan/division bull and create a federal democratic government in Mogadishu. I honestly do not care about the Islamist lean, but try to be as presentable as possible.

2. Make peace with Ethiopia and let them use our ports. Connect Berbera and Mogadishu with Addis Ababa with roads and railroads. With 70 million people west of Somalia, it is too big to ignore economically.

3. Improve agriculture. Increase irrigation in Southern Somalia on the Juba and Shebelle rivers, and plant tropical fruits like Bananas, Mangos, Pineapples. Also, become a leader in Date Palm cultivation (Somalia has huge potential in this)

4. Explore and exploit natural resources. Somalia is basically unexplored, with potential of great quantities of oil, natural gas, coal, and uranium. It could help bring visibility and help the economy, but I would have it not too high on dependence.

5. Create a national road and rail network connecting all the cities in Somalia. Also, make connections with Djibouti, Ethiopia, and Kenya and a possible ferry network to Yemen. Also, create larger airports in Mogadishu and Hargeisa.

6. Invest much more in education and health and much less in the military. Make free public education and health care, but not too much of a welfare state. Invest also in public housing and demolish the nasty slums that surround basically every Somali city.

7. Although I really don't agree too much with it, make Somalia have as low business taxes as possible so it could be attractive to locate to bring jobs. As the closest African country to East and South Asia, Somalia has a lot a gain because of location.

8. Development in the tourist sector. Somalia has the longest seacoast in Africa, and the most beaches in default. A warm climate year round makes it a good choice. There is also rugged mountains that might attract the adventurous type. Also, try to destroy the stigma/stereotype of Somalia by positive marketing.

9. Last and most important, I hope that the people of Somalia gain the drive to make their country as great as possible. The opportunities and potential is there, but working hard to reach this goal is just as important. That is what has been lacking for the last 30+ years in Somalia, and the Horn of Africa in general.

Thanks for reading!

Great list rotten :)

Somalia's tourist potential is something I've always had in mind. The stretch of coastline in phenominal! Thousands of miles of untouched white Indian-Ocean sand :cool:
The geographical point is a good one too. You're closer to the Middle East and Asia than most other countries, and you have the advantage of a large landlocked country next door desperate to use your port facilities!

I would like to have Jacob Zuma and his corrupt crew go to jail.

I would also like to see a proper police and courts system so our crime rate can come down to something even vaguely approaching acceptable.

Great list rotten :)

Somalia's tourist potential is something I've always had in mind. The stretch of coastline in phenominal! Thousands of miles of untouched white Indian-Ocean sand :cool:
The geographical point is a good one too. You're closer to the Middle East and Asia than most other countries, and you have the advantage of a large landlocked country next door desperate to use your port facilities!

Thanks, SE9...:)

The beaches in Somalia are beautiful...totally untouched and unexplored to outsiders, with almost pollution-free water. The dry and warm climate keeps the beaches to be used all year long.

Somalia is basically below Arabia, which is a giant market for Somali exports. Ethiopia and Somalia would gain (like Germany and the Netherlands in Rotterdam) by using the ports, but with the political situation, this is doubtful. Instead of using only one port in Djibouti, that is too limiting...

The fact that Somalia has so much potential makes me even more heartbroken...the potential will be lost at the rate it's going now.

I would start by firing a few guys

1. I would like to fire the Health Minister, Manto Tshabalala-Msimang
2. I would like to fire the Minister of Safety and Security and his commisioner
3. I would like Jacob Zuma to answer the corruption accusations in court.
4. Fire all corrupt officials in home affairs, police, provincial and municipal government

Then strengthen the following areas:-

1. Strengthen the police, justice system, national prosecutions authority
2. Improve the education system and convert half the universities to become
technology institutes like MIT
3. Finally, put the most capable guys in local government to deliver services and public infrastructure.

What I would do for Kenya

Try to rehabilitate Kenya's forests. Currently only 2% of Kenya is forested. I would like to see that increase to 10-15%.

My idea is general for all developing countries...not only africa.

1. Invest a lot in education and i mean quality education( science and technology)

2. Try to promote manufacturing industry

If we could succesfully implement the first point, it would take care of all other factors itself.

But in terms of infrastructure in Nigeria

1. A diamond shaped expressway network followed by a liking the diogonals.

2. More Agro-based industrial areas in the northern part.

3. Strengthening NEPA's infrastructure so we dont have those power blackout during the rainy season.

Here's what I would do for Zambia:

1. Upgrade airports in Lusaka, Livingstone, and Ndola to handle 10,000,000, 5,000,000, and 5,000,000 passengers respectively.
2. The construction of well-maintained highways between Kitwe-Lusaka, Livingstone-Lusaka, Kitwe-Mwinilunga, Lusaka-Chipata, Kapori Mposhi-Tunduma, and Mpika, Mpulungu.
3. Clear all the slums in Lusaka, Livingstone, and the cities in the Copperbelt Province and replace them with single-family or multi-family houses with proper sanitation etc.
4. Build some hotels and resorts in Livingstone.

finishing my sudan list:

1-fire the ingaz goverment. And prosecute them in a fai court.
2- create a federal or confederate system in sudan.
3- fight corruption
4- impement democracy
5- rebuild khartoum university.

There's not much I would do for Egypt, but I would do just one thing: Build a decent international airport for Alexandria that could handle 10,000,000 passengers per annum on the site of the current Borg el Arab airport. It would have 2 parallel runways and 2 terminals. A rail line would connect the airport to central Alexandria.

I am fairly new here so "A BIG WHATs UP TO EVERYONE!":)

I know most african countries need a million (plus another million more) things to change, but what 3 major projects would you say needs to be done to drastically change your country? I'll start it:

Country: DR Congo

I would like the new government to

1. Build railways to link the whole country
2. Build major highways across the country
3. Build a hydroelectric dam to finally use its damn potential

I believe with these in place, no matter what happenes a nation will always land on its feet.



I am from the DR of Congo, so I will just add a few things to your wishes.

4. Build 5 new international airport with state of the art facilitie: one in Kinshasa of course, one in Lubumbashi, one in Kananga, one in Mbuji-Mayi and one in Bas Congo.

5. Consult with the best architect in the world and make deal with the world largest hotel chains so they could build infrastructure to accomodate millions of tourists. Just thing about all the wild life, rare animals and beautiful landscape the ex-Zaire has to offer. At almost $700 billion a year, the tourist industry is larger than the automobile, manufacuturing industry etc. The DR of Congo has more to gain in that industry than any other.


By the way, the DR of Congo already has the Inga Dam. It has the potential to supply enough electricity to the entire African continent and western Europe if it was well managed and run. So I don't know what good another dam would do us.

I am fairly new here so "A BIG WHATs UP TO EVERYONE!":)

I know most african countries need a million (plus another million more) things to change, but what 3 major projects would you say needs to be done to drastically change your country? I'll start it:

Country: DR Congo

I would like the new government to

1. Build railways to link the whole country
2. Build major highways across the country
3. Build a hydroelectric dam to finally use its damn potential

I believe with these in place, no matter what happenes a nation will always land on its feet.



I am from the DR of Congo, so I will just add a few things to your wishes.

4. Build 5 new international airport with state of the art facilitie: one in Kinshasa of course, one in Lubumbashi, one in Kananga, one in Mbuji-Mayi and one in Bas Congo.

5. Consult with the best architect in the world and make deal with the world largest hotel chains so they could build infrastructure to accomodate millions of tourists. Just thing about all the wild life, rare animals and beautiful landscape the ex-Zaire has to offer. At almost $700 billion a year, the tourist industry is larger than the automobile, manufacuturing industry etc. The DR of Congo has more to gain in that industry than any other.


By the way, the DR of Congo already has the Inga Dam. It has the potential to supply enough electricity to the entire African continent and western Europe if it was well managed and run. So I don't know what good another dam would do us.

I am from the DR of Congo, so I will just add a few things to your wishes.

4. Build 5 new international airport with state of the art facilitie: one in Kinshasa of course, one in Lubumbashi, one in Kananga, one in Mbuji-Mayi and one in Bas Congo.

5. Consult with the best architect in the world and make deal with the world largest hotel chains so they could build infrastructure to accomodate millions of tourists. Just thing about all the wild life, rare animals and beautiful landscape the ex-Zaire has to offer. At almost $700 billion a year, the tourist industry is larger than the automobile, manufacuturing industry etc. The DR of Congo has more to gain in that industry than any other.


By the way, the DR of Congo already has the Inga Dam. It has the potential to supply enough electricity to the entire African continent and western Europe if it was well managed and run. So I don't know what good another dam would do us.

Here's something I would like to do to the Democratic Republic of the Congo:

6. Upgrade the country's poorly maintained national highway system and construct new highways connecting cities with a population of over 100,000.

7. Upgrade the country's railway system and make it connect cities with a population of over 200,000

8. Build a sixth airport in Kisangani. Also expand Kinshasa International to accomodate 15,000,000 passengers per annum.

9. Connect Mbuji-Mayi to the outside world by building highways and railways (Mbuji-Mayi has no existing railway.)

10. Build a rapid transit system for Kinshasa.

In Angola the goverment just need to do one thing:

GIVE A DECENT LIFE TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT COUNTRY

What I would do for Kenya:

1. Build rapid transit systems for Nairobi and Mombasa
2. Build 3 international airports for Kisumu, Nakuru, and Eldoret that could handle 4,000,000 passengers per annum. Also, build commercial airportsfor every city in Kenya with a population of over 100,000.
3. Construct 4 motorways connecting Nyeri-Waji-Addis Ababa, Nakuru-Kampala, Eldoret-Sudan, and Nairobi-Arusha.
4. Build an international convention centre in Nairobi
5. Redevelop Kibera, a slum in Nairoi, into a large green space and/or a residential district. Then replace all the slums in Kenya with residential districts.
6. upgrade all the sports venues in Nairobi. Then, build new sports complexes for Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru, and Eldoret.

1) Build more mass rapid system to secondary towns and cities
2) Abolish the affirmative action and let the majority to compete fairly with the economically-powerful minorities
3) Build more highways
4) Privatize the national airline to compete with regional carriers
5) More non-frill carriers
6) Improve education; stop emphasis on rote learning and more to critical thinking.

Here's what Id like to do for Kenyas Infrastructure:

Roads:
The whole highway system in the country has to be rebuilt. I would suggest a motorway/freeway system running in a three directional axis with Nairobi as the centre. One axis towards Mombasa, another towards western kenya (nakuru) which would then branch into two parts:one leading to kisumu and another to Eldoret and Kampala. The last axis should head to the north of the country (Mt Kenya region) Linking towns of Nyeri, Meru and Embu in a ring fashion around the mountain. An extension should be made to the North joining Ethiopia and possibly Sudan.


Railways:
Should be revamped and extended to Ethiopia and Sudan.
Cities of Nairobi and Mombasa should have light rail systems as part of a rapid transport system to ease congestion on highways. All major towns and cities must be connected to this system.

Here are some of the sports venues in Nairobi I would like to refurbish and expand:
Kasarani Stadium-60000
Kasarani Gymnasium-7000 from 5000
Kasarani Swimming Pool-5000 from 2000
Nyayo Stadium-40000 from 30000
Nairobi City Stadium-20000 from 15000
Nairobi Gymkhana Club-15000 from 8000

Next, the sports venues I would like to build in Nairobi:
Kasarani Velodrome-5000
Kasarani Tennis Stadium-6000
Kasarani Hockey Stadium-5000
Kasarani Archery Field-1000
National Indoor Arena-15000-next to the convention centre
Nyayo Gymnasium-7000
Kenya National Regatta Centre
A shooting range

Last, The stadiums that would be built elsewhere in the country:
Mombasa Stadium-50000
Kisumu Stadium-40000
Nakuru Stadium-40000
Eldoret Stadium-40000

Here's what Id like to do for Kenyas Infrastructure:

Roads:
The whole highway system in the country has to be rebuilt. I would suggest a motorway/freeway system running in a three directional axis with Nairobi as the centre. One axis towards Mombasa, another towards western kenya (nakuru) which would then branch into two parts:one leading to kisumu and another to Eldoret and Kampala. The last axis should head to the north of the country (Mt Kenya region) Linking towns of Nyeri, Meru and Embu in a ring fashion around the mountain. An extension should be made to the North joining Ethiopia and possibly Sudan.


Railways:
Should be revamped and extended to Ethiopia and Sudan.
Cities of Nairobi and Mombasa should have light rail systems as part of a rapid transport system to ease congestion on highways. All major towns and cities must be connected to this system.

wonderful ideas.

For Kenya, I would definitely increase the number of institutions of higher learning. I would look to set up at least one major national university in each province, beginning with Mombasa. I would also adequately equip all existing universities, colleges, technical institutes, primary & secondary schools. I would revamp the education system to ensure it is more practical for our time. As far as healthcare, I would build at least one major national hospital per province, and I would properly equip the existing ones. I would also increase funding for research in the health sciences.

Here's something I would like to do to the Democratic Republic of the Congo:

6. Upgrade the country's poorly maintained national highway system and construct new highways connecting cities with a population of over 100,000.

7. Upgrade the country's railway system and make it connect cities with a population of over 200,000

8. Build a sixth airport in Kisangani. Also expand Kinshasa International to accomodate 15,000,000 passengers per annum.

9. Connect Mbuji-Mayi to the outside world by building highways and railways (Mbuji-Mayi has no existing railway.)

10. Build a rapid transit system for Kinshasa.


Just out of curiosity, Jim856796, where are you from?

Also, do you have an estimates of how much money would be needed to build all the infrastructures we have listed in both our posts? Because of the cheap labor and land availability, I am assuming that it would cost at least 10 times less to build these things in the DROC than say, France or Germany for instamce. I've tried to search on google how much doest it cost per kilometer to build a freeways or expressways in Africa, but to no avail. I know in France, it costs at least 6 million euros per kilometers to build a freeway.

Thanks

Roads infrastructure:
Widen the roads in Kampala (dual carriageways/motorways) and fix the huge potholes. Remove the roundabouts and finish the northern bypass.Also build a freeway linking the city of Kampala to Jinja and possibly Mbale (which would connect to the kenyan highway system)

Repair the Jinja-Bugiri highway, Add new roads to the north of the country (Gulu) and a freeway to western uganda (Mbarara-Kabale/kasese) which would link Congo and Rwanda.

Revamp the railwayline to the north and west of the country and expand it to Sudan, Rwanda and DRC.

Build new dams on the Nile and geothermal energy to increase electricity production (and end the current continuous blackouts)

Build an oil pipeline to Kenya from L. Albert where oil has been discovered. It can be pumped to mombasa for export and refining. The pipeline can also be extended to Rwanda.

Expand Entebbe Airport to handle 2-3million passengers.

Develop the Northern Region (end the war here):cheers:

I'd like to see the construction of a worldclass road system
---The completion of the Lagos Redevelopment Project
---The realisation of the 4th mainland Bridge
---More money invested into transportation
---Completion and proposals of more IPPs
---More money invested into sports
---And the construction of a 80,000 capacity stadium in Jos
---The improvement of Landline serivces, using the latest fibre optics technology
---The approval and construction of Retail, commercial, residential etc. buildings at coastal parts of Nigeria
:pepper: :cucumber: :banana: :carrot:

I'd like to see the construction of a worldclass road system
---The completion of the Lagos Redevelopment Project
---The realisation of the 4th mainland Bridge
---More money invested into transportation
---Completion and proposals of more IPPs
---More money invested into sports
---And the construction of a 80,000 capacity stadium in Jos
---The improvement of Landline serivces, using the latest fibre optics technology
---The approval and construction of Retail, commercial, residential etc. buildings at coastal parts of Nigeria
:pepper: :cucumber: :banana: :carrot:

Uh, you mean an 80000-capacity stadium in Lagos, right? Jos is way too small a city to have an 80000-capacity stadium! If you don't like it, wait till you see my ideas of development in Nigeria!

For Kenya, I would definitely increase the number of institutions of higher learning. I would look to set up at least one major national university in each province, beginning with Mombasa. I would also adequately equip all existing universities, colleges, technical institutes, primary & secondary schools. I would revamp the education system to ensure it is more practical for our time. As far as healthcare, I would build at least one major national hospital per province, and I would properly equip the existing ones. I would also increase funding for research in the health sciences.

Great points, I think the fact that everything is so centralized in Kenya stagnates development. Universities should be spread out all over the country, a highway and rail system should be build to encourage comerce.
The airports in Kenya are currently not a major problem. Nairobi and Mombasa are international class and the feeder airports around the country just need to be improved. I think the road and rail network is the major consern. Affordable housing would benefit a majority of the population.

Uh, you mean an 80000-capacity stadium in Lagos, right? Jos is way too small a city to have an 80000-capacity stadium! If you don't like it, wait till you see my ideas of development in Nigeria!

I chose Jos, because it is a better place to have a footballmatch, I didn't mean an All Purpose stadium that could be used to host events, but a stadium in peaceful Jos that would serve as the Super Eagles home Ground and Training ground:)

I chose Jos, because it is a better place to have a footballmatch, I didn't mean an All Purpose stadium that could be used to host events, but a stadium in peaceful Jos that would serve as the Super Eagles home Ground and Training ground:)

Yeah, but I didn't want it as 80-000-seater stadium! That's Lagos's stadium! How about you cut the capacity to 40000?

I'll Meet you halfway; how about 60,000:)

What I would do for Lagos, Nigeria:

1. Because Lagos is reported to exceed about 25.75 million by 2015, I would like to build 30 satellite towns around Lagos. The towns could range between 600000 to 500000.
2. Revitalize Victoria Island and the eastern side of Lagos Island by building 50 skyscrapers ranging between 60 to 365 metres and 500 various other buildings. The tallest would be a 1200-foot-high tower that would become the tallest building in Africa.
3. Increase the capacity of Surelere Stadium to 60000, build a new 80000-capacity stadium, and build 32 various sports venues.
4. Rebuild the 3 existing mainland bridges and build a completely new 4th mainland bridge.
5. Tear down all the slums in Lagos and replace them with lowrise residential projects.

What I would do for the rest of Nigeria:

1. Upgrade 5 airports in Lagos, Abuja, Kano, Kaduna, and Port Harcourt to handle 20 million, 10 million, 10 million, 5 million and 5 million passengers respectively. Then build a second airport for Lagos. Next, buiild airports in Ibadan, Abeokuta, Benin City, Ilorin, and various other Nigerian cities with a population of over 500,000.
2. Build a national motorway system for the country.
3. The following stadiums would be constructed:
Ibadan-50000
Kano-50000
Port Harcourt-50000
Abeokuta-40000
Maiduguri-40000
Kaduna-40000
Benin City-40000
Ilorin-40000
Jos-40000
20000-40000-capacity stadiums for every city with a population between 500000-1000000
10000-20000-capacity stadiums for every city with a population between 100000-500000.

1. Transform Kigali into a modern Metropolitan city with a major focus on ICT related industries. Also, the main towns of Cyangugu, Butare and Gitarama should also be upgraded into major centres of commerce in the country.

2.) Construct about 4 more additional universities and a Major National hospital.

3.) Extend the railway line from Kasese in Uganda to Kigali and add an additional extention to Tanzania.

4.) Construct major highways linking the country in a North-South direction (Katuna-Kigali-Gitarama-Butare)

5.) Depopulate the countryside and move the subsistence farmers into the urban centers to work in more productive sectors (after educating them). and free the farmland for large scale commercial ventures. (This should only happen when the newly established industries are up and running).

1. Transform Kigali into a modern Metropolitan city with a major focus on ICT related industries. Also, the main towns of Cyangugu, Butare and Gitarama should also be upgraded into major centres of commerce in the country.

2.) Construct about 4 more additional universities and a Major National hospital.

3.) Extend the railway line from Kasese in Uganda to Kigali and add an additional extention to Tanzania.

4.) Construct major highways linking the country in a North-South direction (Katuna-Kigali-Gitarama-Butare)

5.) Depopulate the countryside and move the subsistence farmers into the urban centers to work in more productive sectors (after educating them). and free the farmland for large scale commercial ventures. (This should only happen when the newly established industries are up and running).

Firstly, for Lagos,

1. I would like to see several high rise buildings in Lagos Island, an observation tower and the tallest building in Africa with 85 storeys.
2. New stadiums and sporting arenas to host future world events eg. The Olympics.
3. I would like to see a complete face lift with all the slums gone replaced with either, 30 Satellite towns with several 5 storey terrace houses or Highrise apartments.
4. Convienent stores and shopping malls, leisure centres and bowling alleys, water parks and entertainment strips. Something like twice Tinapa's size!!
5. Fly overs and bridges, complete rehabilitation of 1st, 2nd and 3rd mainland bridge with 4th and 5th bridges completed!! then a Motor test coming into place clearing out all the hideous cars.
6. A public transport system with a state of the art BRT, LRT, Metro and Subway system.
7. A monster terminal for MMA and maybe a new lagos city airport.
8. Another land reclamation project claiming beautiful beaches for tourism!!
9. Last but not the least, a huge police force and emergency crew in case of any crime or troubles!!

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5. Fly overs and bridges, complete rehabilitation of 1st, 2nd and 3rd mainland bridge with 4th and 5th bridges completed!! then a Motor test coming into place clearing out all the hideous cars.
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I didn't know Lagos proposed a a 5th Mainland Bridge.

Just out of curiosity, Jim, where are you from?

Also, do you have an estimates of how much money would be needed to build all the infrastructures we have listed in both our posts? Because of the cheap labor and land availability, I am assuming that it would cost at least 10 times less to build these things in the DROC than say, France or Germany for instamce. I've tried to search on google how much doest it cost per kilometer to build a freeways or expressways in Africa, but to no avail. I know in France, it costs at least 6 million euros per kilometers to build a freeway.

Thanks

I know one of the latest highways to be built in South Africa, the N1N4 Bakwena platinum highway completed in 2004 had some statistics on the R3 billion highway (EUR 320 million). (see http://www.bakwena.co.za/inc_fun.php)

The most expensive section to build was said to be between PWV9 and Doornpoort at R15 mill/km (that's about EUR 1.6 million per kilometer). Check this link (http://www.bakwena.co.za/inc_map.php?map=2&strip=3)to see the route

Yeah, but I didn't want it as 80-000-seater stadium! That's Lagos's stadium! How about you cut the capacity to 40000?
nope!lagos already has 45000 capacity stadium.I suggest a 65000 capacity stadium for lagos.
Who know about the newly built "teslim balogun" stadium in lagos and also a newly built stadium in Ogun state in "ijebu-ode?

For Zimbabwe:

1. Replace all the slums damaged by Operation Murambatsvina with 5-story apartment blocks.
2. Renovate the Harare, Bulawayo, and Victoria Falls airports. Then build airports in Gweru, Mutare, KweKwe, and Hwange.
3. Add 20 skyscrapers to Harare (the tallest being 160m) and build 12-14 highrises in Bulawayo (Tallest building 120m).
4. Improve the country's National Roads and Railways System and build some completely new roads and railroads while you're at it.
5. Build universities in Chitungwiza and Mutare and every city with a 100,000 population or more. (excluding Harare because it already has a good university which needs to be improved.)
6. Renovate the National Stadium in Harare and surround it with an indoor arena, aquatics centre, and a 2 km regatta course, Build a 48,000-seat football stadium on the site of Rufaro Stadium and an exhibition centre downtown. Over at bulawayo, we should build a 50,000-seat football stadium replacing Barbourfields Stadium, a 25,000-seat athletics stadium with a 5,000 capacity indoor gymnasium along with a few facilities for other sports. At every other 80,000+ Zimbabwean city with even smaller sports complexes. Wow, I must be obsessed with sports facilities, am I?
7. Build light rail systems in Harare and Bulawayo (once it reaches a 1 million population).

With unlimited resources, right? How much would these costs and where are the funds coming from?

For Zimbabwe:

1. Replace all the slums damaged by Operation Murambatsvina with 5-story apartment blocks.
2. Renovate the Harare, Bulawayo, and Victoria Falls airports. Then build airports in Gweru, Mutare, KweKwe, and Hwange.
3. Add 20 skyscrapers to Harare (the tallest being 160m) and build 12-14 highrises in Bulawayo (Tallest building 120m).
4. Improve the country's National Roads and Railways System and build some completely new roads and railroads while you're at it.
5. Build universities in Chitungwiza and Mutare and every city with a 100,000 population or more. (excluding Harare because it already has a good university which needs to be improved.)
6. Renovate the National Stadium in Harare and surround it with an indoor arena, aquatics centre, and a 2 km regatta course, Build a 48,000-seat football stadium on the site of Rufaro Stadium and an exhibition centre downtown. Over at bulawayo, we should build a 50,000-seat football stadium replacing Barbourfields Stadium, a 25,000-seat athletics stadium with a 5,000 capacity indoor gymnasium along with a few facilities for other sports. At every other 80,000+ Zimbabwean city with even smaller sports complexes. Wow, I must be obsessed with sports facilities, am I?
7. Build light rail systems in Harare and Bulawayo (once it reaches a 1 million population).

Grand scheme indeed. But before you achieve macro economical and political stability these are all pipe dreams. A country that oppresses everyone will have no use for universities or skyscrapers.

Grand scheme indeed. But before you achieve macro economical and political stability these are all pipe dreams. A country that oppresses everyone will have no use for universities or skyscrapers.

Perhaps he is assuming that Mugabe is gone, and a more stable regime in place when these changes are implemented.

someone shld jst kill d mugabe dude...i normally wouldnt spprt this but wht he is doin to the people of his country is criminal....thy used to be one of africa's top economies.....thy should send him some indian girls with apples like dey did abacha

someone shld jst kill d mugabe dude...i normally wouldnt spprt this but wht he is doin to the people of his country is criminal....thy used to be one of africa's top economies.....thy should send him some indian girls with apples like dey did abacha

hmmmm.., don't think he likes indian girls or white girls. try sending some Ghanaian chicks, his first wife came from Ghana and he was there at her grave during the Ghana@50 celebrations and tried to go to her grave with his new youthful wife (the one that likes shopping in Sandton, Joburg) and the in-laws didn't allow her to go to the grave. LOL

someone shld jst kill d mugabe dude...i normally wouldnt spprt this but wht he is doin to the people of his country is criminal....thy used to be one of africa's top economies.....thy should send him some indian girls with apples like dey did abacha

Forget the chicks, just send some commandos out there to finish the job quickly. I know this sounds wrong, but I hate that guy, I really do. What he has done to that nation is criminal, and you have no idea how much ammunition he has given the racists to use against blacks. They say blacks can't run nations-Mugabe is the example they use the most, and they comparfe it to the former rhodesia all the time.
Mugabe has given blacks in general a really bad name.

Zimbabwe has all the potential to be a strong, successful nation. If it were, then all of the other economies around it would be even stronger, including SA and Botswana. Mugabe has given a bad name to africans, screwed his own people, and even managed to damage other countries while he was at it.

The day he dies is the day that nation makes any progress. So much could be done there if only the stability and solid governance had been maintained...

You know, eeing what you can do to your country is nice, but when you see what you can do to the cities in the country, it can be very complicated. Because of this, I am going to start an African City Makeover thread soon.

A few years ago, I used to visit this thread frequently to suggest my improvements to African countries. Now all proposed things in this thread happen to be pipedreams and they might be impossible to accomplish. Also, since early 2008, I and several other users have abandoned this thread.

And one last thing I want to add to my Zimbabwe improvement list: 8. Throw away Mugabe's current governmental system and get a much better one.

Nigeria.
I believe that with electricity and roads the country will take off to full development, government intervertion isn't needed. So my main focus will be on increasing revenue to make nigeria an energy exporting country in 8 years (very possible with break neck discipline), and to make sure all roads or adequate and orderly, which is being done already. Also, a key focus will be put in place to strengthen real democracy. With the right facilities, physical and non physicial, nigerians will develop the country themselves so the fed doesn't need to build everything, just give them the means to do it.





FEDERALIZE REVENUE
All states keep what they make, oil, tax, import export duties, whatever. 80% wit a 20% allocation to the federal government, but not to other states. It's better to have a few ultra modern states and cities then several low development ones, and that natural trickle effects of being in the same country of those highly developed states will spread development to other states by way of trade and travel.

TAXES
Nigerians don't pay their taxes. If 150 million people paided what would amount to 20 USD every 2 months thats almost 3 billion USD, which would quadruple the current budget.
A populace that pays taxes strengthens their democracy because the government is now dependant on the people to ensure its income, whether they steal it or not, and must therefore show progress or face collapse or revolt. Under the current system, whether the ppl are happy or not the government still gets its money from oil, and therefore actual governance is done if the person in power has a 'good heart'. whereas with taxes, good heart or not, you have to keep the money coming in by making ppl happy.

MILITARY
Increase the nigerian military 6 fold making it the largest by far in africa. The reason, incase any part of nigeria wants to seperate we have to be powerful enough to supress the rebellion while still being on guard for external threats. As it currently stands, any of the 3 major tribes can over power the current nigerian military. a country nigeria's size needs a military 6 times the size of the current one.

CONSTITUTIONAL SUPREMACY
Enforce the fact that the constitution is the supreme law. I believe in total federalism, so the fed will only step in to stop constitutional abuses. This includes many parts of Sharia Law that go against the constitution. This is also why a larger army is needed, just incase.

POLICING GOVERNORS
Education, policing, roads, sanitiation, and all parts of development will be the responsibility of the governors, not the presidency. As a president I will make sure the governors have the access and funds to do what they wish to do, but I will also be a hammer in enforcing what they need to do gets done.

first year in office
-All electrical grids must be up to date
-Enforce STRICT building codes including a ban on shanty developments, rusted roofs, and many other things.

Second year
-States bid for new power plants, highest bidders get the plants but enough plants will be built to generate 15,000MW in five years using deficit spending
-All primary education must be free unless private
, initiative paid for by taxes.

Third year
-All schools must be free and state/federal government must pay a lump sum tuition for all students going to private schools paid for by taxes.


Fourth year
- Convert all traditional markets to modern shopping districts like what is being done in Lagos.
-Eradicate all shantytowns and illegal structures




this 4 year plan will be enforced by the gun and pen. States that fail to reach their set goals will face federal intervention my means of military and suspension of governors (but no ousting cause that's illegal). The governors will remain suspended and the federal army will run the affairs of that particular state until the set yearly goals are accomplished. After that the federal executive will release its hold and continue with business.

redevlopment of gulu and jinja(uganda)

gulu
international aiport.
more paved roads
more national buildings
railway links

jinja
new railway lines
international airport.
a new baot dock
beaches

A few years ago, I used to visit this thread frequently to suggest my improvements to African countries. Now all proposed things in this thread happen to be pipedreams and they might be impossible to accomplish. Also, since early 2008, I and several other users have abandoned this thread.

And one last thing I want to add to my Zimbabwe improvement list: 8. Throw away Mugabe's current governmental system and get a much better one.

Forgot about this thread, its been a minute. I have recently changed my stance on things african, as frustrating as things are I feel that Africa is just going through growing pains. Together, we have only been living out of physical slavery for 50 years give or take a year, development takes time and good planning. The only thing holding us back now is poor leadingship, i would not trust some of these fools in african governments to run a brothel filled with russisan blondes in the middle of a single men's club, they will somehow find a way to mess up.

Overall, Africa is heading in the right direction, there is a light somewhere near the end of the tunnel and in my opinion the diaspora will play a key part, not the ones just moaning on the internet but the ones that actually risk everything and go back and try to do things.

Nigeria.
I believe that with electricity and roads the country will take off to full development, government intervertion isn't needed. So my main focus will be on increasing revenue to make nigeria an energy exporting country in 8 years (very possible with break neck discipline), and to make sure all roads or adequate and orderly, which is being done already. Also, a key focus will be put in place to strengthen real democracy. With the right facilities, physical and non physicial, nigerians will develop the country themselves so the fed doesn't need to build everything, just give them the means to do it.





FEDERALIZE REVENUE
All states keep what they make, oil, tax, import export duties, whatever. 80% wit a 20% allocation to the federal government, but not to other states. It's better to have a few ultra modern states and cities then several low development ones, and that natural trickle effects of being in the same country of those highly developed states will spread development to other states by way of trade and travel.

TAXES
Nigerians don't pay their taxes. If 150 million people paided what would amount to 20 USD every 2 months thats almost 3 billion USD, which would quadruple the current budget.
A populace that pays taxes strengthens their democracy because the government is now dependant on the people to ensure its income, whether they steal it or not, and must therefore show progress or face collapse or revolt. Under the current system, whether the ppl are happy or not the government still gets its money from oil, and therefore actual governance is done if the person in power has a 'good heart'. whereas with taxes, good heart or not, you have to keep the money coming in by making ppl happy.

MILITARY
Increase the nigerian military 6 fold making it the largest by far in africa. The reason, incase any part of nigeria wants to seperate we have to be powerful enough to supress the rebellion while still being on guard for external threats. As it currently stands, any of the 3 major tribes can over power the current nigerian military. a country nigeria's size needs a military 6 times the size of the current one.

CONSTITUTIONAL SUPREMACY
Enforce the fact that the constitution is the supreme law. I believe in total federalism, so the fed will only step in to stop constitutional abuses. This includes many parts of Sharia Law that go against the constitution. This is also why a larger army is needed, just incase.

POLICING GOVERNORS
Education, policing, roads, sanitiation, and all parts of development will be the responsibility of the governors, not the presidency. As a president I will make sure the governors have the access and funds to do what they wish to do, but I will also be a hammer in enforcing what they need to do gets done.

first year in office
-All electrical grids must be up to date
-Enforce STRICT building codes including a ban on shanty developments, rusted roofs, and many other things.

Second year
-States bid for new power plants, highest bidders get the plants but enough plants will be built to generate 15,000MW in five years using deficit spending
-All primary education must be free unless private
, initiative paid for by taxes.

Third year
-All schools must be free and state/federal government must pay a lump sum tuition for all students going to private schools paid for by taxes.


Fourth year
- Convert all traditional markets to modern shopping districts like what is being done in Lagos.
-Eradicate all shantytowns and illegal structures




this 4 year plan will be enforced by the gun and pen. States that fail to reach their set goals will face federal intervention my means of military and suspension of governors (but no ousting cause that's illegal). The governors will remain suspended and the federal army will run the affairs of that particular state until the set yearly goals are accomplished. After that the federal executive will release its hold and continue with business.

my friend, you are too wise to get a position in the 9ja government!

All politicians are dumbasses. There, I said it.

Man was I so naive and innocent with that post that I made three years ago.

None of that ish is going to happen in Somalia, if it's still a single state, within 20-30 years at the least. :ohno:

All politicians are dumbasses. There, I said it.

I am going to have to agree. Most politicians run for office to benefit themselves and rule weaker people.

I think you have to require some kind of megalomania in your brain to become one!

In a truly enlightened system, we would probably do without them and make local councils so we can have a real voice in our affairs. But the populace is too stupid and the politicians don't want to lose their jobs so it will never happen! Especially in Africa.

The Swiss have the most enlightened political system although it has it's flaws.

Man was I so naive and innocent with that post that I made three years ago.

None of that ish is going to happen in Somalia, if it's still a single state, within 20-30 years at the least. :ohno:

dont feel bad and dont let go of your ideas/dreams

conflict and troubles in our countries can often make things seem impossible, but even more tragic is when one allows cynicism or pessimism to take over. keep the dream alive bro, it will happen...in time :cheers: