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ChrisCharlton May 15th, 2005, 01:31 AM I read a while ago that Stevenson Square in the Northern Quarter would be getting a Picc gardens style treatment. Does anyone know anything more about this?
Would be good to see some renderings if there are any floating about.
frozenmusic May 15th, 2005, 01:37 AM Chris, don't start a new thread for a question in future, just stick it in the official Manchester thread, and someone will reply. If there were renderings and a definite project, there would be a thread. People tend not to keep things secret on here, every little bit of info gets spunked out of our collective minds very quickly.
And no, I have not seen anything about this for a good while now, it would be nice though. Last I heard sleepyone was planning a banana building there.
pookgai May 15th, 2005, 01:37 AM Yeah, heard that there was supposed to be some huge regeneration project going on in the coming years. Would be cool to see it pedestrianised as an extension of Picc Gardens (it's so close). It could be a funky 'corridor' lined with cool independent bars, cafes, shops and clubs.
Anyway, where's Caw when you need him!? I'm sure he'll enlighten us =P
P!K
ChrisCharlton May 15th, 2005, 01:40 AM Yeah - thanks for the advice frozenone. Didn't realise there were rules against starting threads though!
frozenmusic May 15th, 2005, 02:00 AM Yeah - thanks for the advice frozenone. Didn't realise there were rules against starting threads though!
There's not, and I'm not having a go and I'm certainly not a boss around here. It just tends to be the way things are done, just letting you know as you are new, I guess it is to stop us getting too many pages of dead threads when you want to find a project. Anyhow, it really isn't important.
So yeah, who is going to remind us about this, it's been a long, long time since anything was mentioned, and I damn well can't remember where.
ForeverSalfordRed May 15th, 2005, 05:56 AM I think its much better having seperate threads for seperate projects, not everyone has time to go searching thru a 'Manchester thread' for different projects!
Accura4Matalan May 15th, 2005, 01:04 PM Yeh, but this is more of a question than a project thread.
ChrisCharlton May 15th, 2005, 07:16 PM Now all we need is a pointer to that elusive existing thread.....
frozenmusic May 15th, 2005, 08:37 PM For fuck's sake. There isn't a thread because there is no significant information on the project. Is that so difficult to grasp? If you go into the patent office do you think there will be a file reading 'hover cars' because they have been touted and might be invented in the future?
caw123 May 15th, 2005, 08:46 PM Chill out people. He's started the thread now. Done. Dusted. Let it be. There are far more important things to get annoyed with!
highriser May 15th, 2005, 08:56 PM Might be a good idea, to change the title of this thread to Northern Quarter, then we could put,all the developments in this area, in here
ChrisCharlton May 16th, 2005, 01:44 AM For fuck's sake. There isn't a thread because there is no significant information on the project. Is that so difficult to grasp? If you go into the patent office do you think there will be a file reading 'hover cars' because they have been touted and might be invented in the future?
Wasn't trying to upset you frozenmusic. Ouch. Touchy!
And without wanting to wind you up even more - yes I bet there is a file for hover cars at the patent office.
(this is getting way to Monty Python for this time of night)
Anyways - how would we go about making it a thread for the n1/4?
frozenmusic May 16th, 2005, 02:26 AM Wasn't trying to upset you frozenmusic. Ouch. Touchy!
And without wanting to wind you up even more - yes I bet there is a file for hover cars at the patent office.
(this is getting way to Monty Python for this time of night)
Anyways - how would we go about making it a thread for the n1/4?
Really? Well, maybe I suppose, between hoovers and hubcaps, I guess, and containing a copy of Back to the Future part II.
A thread for the NQ? That would be very nice, as indeed would be one for Stevenson Square. The key is actually getting some information on the places, like a masterplan or some pictures, or some development information, renders etc... Then some sort of meaningful discussion can take place (or not, as is usually the case). So yes, please, please do start a NQ one, there is currently not one because no-one has been arsed getting their arse in gear to collate info and take some pics. No point changing this one, just let it sink and die.
pookgai May 16th, 2005, 02:27 AM Wasn't trying to upset you frozenmusic. Ouch. Touchy!
And without wanting to wind you up even more - yes I bet there is a file for hover cars at the patent office.
(this is getting way to Monty Python for this time of night)
Anyways - how would we go about making it a thread for the n1/4?
Sorry Chris, but I believe there is a development in the NorthernQuarter called N1/4. So guess you're not "allowed" to start such a thread as there's probably one already...
Doesn't anyone have any info on Stevenson Square and the plans to redevelop it?
:cheers:
skymann May 16th, 2005, 11:12 AM Sorry Chris, but I believe there is a development in the NorthernQuarter called N1/4. So guess you're not "allowed" to start such a thread as there's probably one already...
Doesn't anyone have any info on Stevenson Square and the plans to redevelop it?
:cheers:
I think there was an article in Manchester Forum (that's the free magazine from Manchester Civic Society) a few months back. Not sure it they have back copies online, but suspect they have. I can't remember which firm of architects did the design but I remember taht it looked like a big improvement. I would have thought Pall Mall house redevelopment would come under the Northern Quarter (N/4). Anyone know if they've started this?
Gavin May 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM http://www.manchestercivic.org.uk/forum/31/F31_02.pdf
Link To civic society sugestions for Stevenson Square (http://www.manchestercivic.org.uk/forum/31/F31_02.pdf)
Personally i think this design is crap. I've seen examples in London especially where this gyratory approach has been ditched for a cross roads. It allows for more public space because it removes the need for having parallel roads.
ChrisCharlton May 16th, 2005, 11:30 PM Hooray! Well done Gavin - nice one.
highriser May 17th, 2005, 02:04 AM in that article about Stephenson Sq ,,it mentioned a Pankhurst statue,as anyone got a pic of this?
I wonder how many more statue's the council have in store,?
i remember the mermaid one ,where one Piccadilly gardens is now,that was in the MEN a few weeks ago,with the council saying they are still trying to find a suitable place for it,,,,
These statue's should'nt be in bloody store,get them on display NOW
ChrisCharlton May 17th, 2005, 11:30 AM Think it says the "Pankhurst statue that is often proposed". Doesn't sound like one already exists?
rolybling May 17th, 2005, 01:24 PM I completely agree about these statues, I think Manchester is seriously lacking some good monuments and statues that you will find in all so called big cities, yes we have a few but not enough, ive always thought we needed more, I wondered what happened to that one that used to be in picc gardens it can't be that hard for them to find a place for it, maybe if they consulted the public they would get a suitable response..where do any of you suggest it should go? My suggestion is somewhere around Spinningfields maybe Hardman Blvd close to Deansgate so passing traffic in cars and on foot can see it as they pass. Alternatively, the little square off Bridge St with the flat benches, get rid of some of the benches first though.
rolybling May 17th, 2005, 01:33 PM Just found this on Aidan O'Rourkes site:
It was announced in an article by Brian Lashley the Manchester Evening News Friday 28 January 2005 that the statue is to be re-erected in St Peter's Square, subject to planning approval.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/adrift.bmp
This is the statue its on about, I like it, it should be on display not sitting in a box or whatever.
9462 May 17th, 2005, 03:17 PM water fountains. WE NEED WATER FOUNTAINS.
AND MORE BUILDINGS LIT UP.
highriser May 17th, 2005, 03:58 PM cheers roly, thats the one from Piccadilly gardens,,its been in store far to long,
flange November 21st, 2006, 08:54 PM Stephenson Square will be trendy
David Thame
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2664/stephensonsquarewt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
ARGENT'S: An impression
STEPHENSON Square - described by one critic as "Manchester's least attractive and possibly most neglected square" - is to be revamped at last.
The square, in the Northern Quarter, long dominated by bus fumes and the rag trade, is to get a 145,000 sq ft office and leisure development to kick the area back into life.
Argent, the London-based developers behind the revamp of Piccadilly Gardens, have applied for planning permission for a new £35m building on the corner of Lever Street.
The first phase will total 75,000 sq ft and is due for completion in 2008. A second phase of 60,000 sq ft will follow.
Modern
The new building, to be called The hive, is intended to appeal to media, fashion and design businesses who want modern office space but either don't want or can't afford ordinary office blocks elsewhere in the city.
David Partridge, joint chief executive at Argent, explained: "We've done a lot of analysis of Manchester's strengths, and that's made us want to extend our property portfolio beyond the financial and professional services sector, who we catered for at No 1 Piccadilly Gardens where we won occupiers like the Bank of New York.
"The Hive is going to appeal to people who aren't into conventional office space, so we're going to make the building as flexible as possible so businesses can create whatever kind of office they want, and pretty much whatever size they want from 750 sq ft up to 10,000 sq ft. We'll also be using a green-friendly building specification which will mean lots of natural ventilation and natural light.
"We hope this is going to trigger a rebirth of Stephenson Square, and act as a catalyst for regeneration, just as our development at No 1 Piccadilly Gardens has done for the Piccadilly area."
highriser November 21st, 2006, 09:00 PM on the corner of Lever St ??
Lets hope its replacing that disgusting Marlbro House.
Stevenson Sq , could look fantastic if done in the right way , i hope the whole square is pedestianised.
kids November 21st, 2006, 09:10 PM Looks alright:
http://www.thehivemanchester.com/
flange November 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM website is up but not alot of info on it
http://www.thehivemanchester.com/
The Longford November 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM Isnt this on the site of the 'bus station'?
kebabmonster November 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM I hope that this area gets a serious revamp. It would further add to the Northern Quarter's artistic/cultural appeal, and should the Northern Quarter further encroach down Dale St towards Piccadilly, it would be a good alternative way to cross town.
highriser November 21st, 2006, 09:19 PM It on the temp bus terminal ,,, looks good .
Longy , you sound like you in a very naughty mood tonight ,,, you'll get a good old spanking if you carry on :laugh:
http://www.thehivemanchester.com/
Mez November 21st, 2006, 09:23 PM Can anyone tell me how one might save pictures from a flash player, like on the hive's site? (i don't have mozilla)
ta
The Longford November 21st, 2006, 09:24 PM Longy , you sound like you in a very naughty mood tonight ,,, you'll get a good old spanking if you carry on :laugh:
I havent had enough sleep, ive got a cold, ive got a baby who has spent all day shitting and crying - i'm in no mood for rainbows, lollypops and fluffy kittens (or for ignorant journalists who wrongly spell areas of a city they are meant to represent and Londoners who squander our money on fucking stupid 'projects')
highriser November 21st, 2006, 09:30 PM I havent had enough sleep, ive got a cold, ive got a baby who has spent all day shitting and crying - i'm in no mood for rainbows, lollypops and fluffy kittens (or for ignorant journalists who wrongly spell areas of a city they are meant to represent and Londoners who squander our money on fucking stupid 'projects')
Sounds like you need a night nurse fella ,, and not the kind in a cup :) give that the kiddie:)
You carry on with your rant matey ,, your only saying what most of the country think anyway ,,off to watch the REDS :cheers:
rolybling November 21st, 2006, 09:37 PM Can anyone tell me how one might save pictures from a flash player, like on the hive's site? (i don't have mozilla)
ta
you have to do a screen capture and save it as a jpeg
Mez November 21st, 2006, 09:59 PM ta roly
macc November 22nd, 2006, 11:57 AM For a start, floor to ceiling glass shop fronts should be bloody banned from the Northern Quarter. It just doesn't fit and it makes it look like a standard high street development. I know shops need big windows but round here they should start from 2-3 foot up, not the floor.
The middle section looks good. Quirky but not too in your face. I don't think any building around here should be too loud. I like the overall feel and look of the conglomeration of buildings and anything that is too different will detract and break the texture. The top section will do just that. I'd like to see how bright the white sections are and hopefully they are no too much so.
I'm not best impressed but the square does need a kick up the arse. But then again as Skymann says this doesn't look like Stevenson sqaure proper. Do you think this as a psychological ploy to help them through planning? Everyone knows Stevenson square need cleaning up.
BeardedGenius November 22nd, 2006, 12:05 PM Anyone got a pic of Stevenson Square as is?
nerd November 22nd, 2006, 05:39 PM I presume what we are being shown in these renders is Phase I, and is on the bus station site. I think the current Stevenson Square buildings are still visible in the renders, and I assume these will be replaced in Phase II - should this ever happen.
GShutty November 23rd, 2006, 02:20 PM That's not really Stevenson Sq is it? It's a fair bit off the square??
You're right Skymann, this development is infact as suggested on Lever St, opposite Griffin House.
This being the case, it should fit in very well & certainly plug another hole in the city's streets and assist in adding depth to the area that exists between Piccadilly (city proper) and Ancoats, as it looks to become part of the city.
STUBBY February 2nd, 2007, 06:40 PM [QUOTE=Local Lad;11604185]01/02/2007
Bardsley Construction, the Tameside based contractor, has been appointed by leading developer Argent Group plc to build the greenest building in Manchester’s Northern Quarter – The Hive , Stevenson Square.
I couldn't help but smile when I read that Bardsleys were building this as I once bought a Bardsley's house a few years ago.
It was built with the roof wrongly constructed and had to be re-roofed under the NHBC guarantee. My next door neighbour took them to court and won a substantial amount as the firm had forgotten to connect the gas flue to the outside thus almost poisoning their two children!
Do they have a "mission statement"?
Isaac Newell February 3rd, 2007, 03:07 PM There was a firm called Roland Bardsley who used to refurbish schools in Oldham in the seventies. Always seemed to take them ages, but time went slowly then.
STUBBY February 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM There was a firm called Roland Bardsley who used to refurbish schools in Oldham in the seventies. Always seemed to take them ages, but time went slowly then.
That's them Isaac. I think they originated in Germany.:lol:
jrb April 17th, 2007, 02:06 PM Hive.(?)
081291/FO/2006/C2
Land Bounded By Lever Street, Warwick Street, Spear Street, Faraday Street
Manchester
Seven storey new building plus basement parking, incorporating retail (Class A1), financial/professional services (Class A2), restaurant/cafe (Class A3) and offices (Class B1) on ground floor and offices (Class B1) on upper floors
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?081291/FO/2006/C2
macc May 1st, 2007, 11:33 AM The Hive has been approved, according to the MEN today.
skymann May 1st, 2007, 03:52 PM The Hive has been approved, according to the MEN today.
There was a leaflet in the Buddhist Centre about a competition to help design the metal gridding thing that covers quite a lot of the front of the building. I suggest solid stainless steel that will cover up the whole building - it's gross.
SleepyOne May 1st, 2007, 09:41 PM Don't forget that the delightful brutalist Lever St sorting office sits more or less directly opposite this proposal. The street needs something to help balance the impact of that particular monster. Therefore, I feel the architects have got the massing spot on.
Im looking forward to seeing what is proposed for the street level solar screen. It could be something really special. Who was it that was saying they wanted to do some artwork in the Northern Quarter - perfect opportunity.
Cherguevara May 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM Creative types love ugly surroundings. Have you ever been to Hoxton? Every third building is rank, but the good balances it out.
flange May 25th, 2007, 04:01 PM Already posted but here is a article about the design competition
Hive alive
Argent calls to bring the Hive alive in Manchester’s Northern Quarter
If you have creative ability at your fingertips, then a national design competition by developers Argent has been launched to create an art installation for The Hive in Stevenson Square.
The Hive is Argent’s new 145,000 sq ft office development designed by HKR Architects and Piercy Connor Architects and detailed planning permission has recently been granted for the first phase.
The creative brief for competition entrants, who can win a cash prize of £5000, is uniquely challenging according to David Partridge, Argent’s Joint Chief Executive:
“This area of Manchester is the neighbourhood of choice for the creative industries. The Hive is designed to appeal to creative people and businesses looking to expand into new sustainable office space. We want to inspire designers working in all spheres, including design students, to create an art installation which will take the form of a solar shading device across the front elevation of the our building.”
An environmentally friendly design aims to achieve a BREAM Excellent rating by incorporating natural ventilation, exposed thermal mass and green roof landscaping.
Construction work on The Hive is due to begin imminently and the first 75,000 sq ft phase will be ready in 2008. Its three linked buildings will offer contemporary loft offices, available on a variety of tenures and in a variety of sizes from 750 sq ft suites upwards.
David adds: “As with Argent’s other Manchester developments, One Piccadilly Gardens and Piccadilly Place, which have resulted in an impressive revitalisation of the whole Piccadilly area, The Hive will act as the catalyst for the regeneration of Stevenson Square and provide a new focus for the Northern Quarter. We are now looking forward to incorporating the creativity of the design community into this exciting new concept in city workspace.”
Argent is assembling a panel of judges for the competition gathered from the worlds of design, architecture and property.
The competition has its own website www.thehivemanchester.co.uk so that designers can read the full brief and use the on-line entry form before the closing date of 22nd June this year.
http://www.manchesterconfidential.com/index.asp?Sessionx=IpqiNwImNwEqJDc6IHqjNwB6IA&realname=Hive_alive
kids May 26th, 2007, 01:30 AM Breakdown of the building's sustainability, taken from cube gallery's 'green modernism blogspot'
http://bp3.blogger.com/_OEWtjQRNRgY/Ri8pKxbDUNI/AAAAAAAAAF8/5_tSubmKVPE/s1600/The%2BHIve%2Bdiagram.JPG
http://greenmodernism.blogspot.com/
flange October 17th, 2007, 10:22 PM Build us up
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8962/thehiveby5.jpg
Jonathan Schofield meets HKR’s Phil Doyle and Jon Matthews: an occasional column on Manchester architects
Architects and designers think of themselves as the funky creatives of the industrial world, a micrometer screw-gauge measurement away from being artists. A artistic temperament is the only explanation for HKR architect, Jon Matthews’ shirt – pictured here. Or it might just say something about the ebullient character of him and his colleague and buddy Phil Doyle.
Oldham-born Doyle and Bolton-born Matthews are Manchester’s architectural double-act: down to earth, funny and yet very serious about their work. Their path to running the thirty strong Manchester office of Irish-owned HKR revolves around alcohol.
“We drank about ten pints of Landlord bitter down at Sam’s Chophouse, one night,” says Matthews. “We knew we had our own ideas and during that drunken occasion we decided to follow that up and set up on our own. Then, out of the blue an opportunity came through friends of friends who’d started HKR in Dublin and they asked us if we wanted to create a business in Manchester. Of course we did.”
“Before that we’d worked in London before coming back to work for Sheppard Robson in Manchester,” says Doyle. “I’d interviewed Jon for a job there. Within thirty seconds it was like we’d been together for years...professionally speaking of course. It was only a matter of time before we went on our own.”
So what are they working on?
Chancery Place
“Chancery Place, off King Street, will be the first building we complete,” says Doyle. “It’s an office building and unusually for an office there is quite a bit of architecture in there. I was quite taken aback the other night because somebody said it was going to be Manchester’s gherkin.”
For ‘quite a bit of architecture in there’ read quality product, not cheapest option bilge. It’s pleasant to see people thinking big – as long as it comes off. Manchester will wait and judge upon delivery. But the sleek design as pictured looks promising even if there are concerns about the scale of the building on this tightly packed site.
Axis
Two other buildings which will also make a big impression on the Manchester street-scene are Axis, on the empty corner site at the end of Deansgate Locks, and The Hive. Axis will complete the view down Lower Mosley Street from St Peter’s Square, whilst Hive will inject life back into Lever Street. The latter’s going to be especially interesting.
The Hive
“The Hive is an office development in the Northern Quarter with Argent as the developer,” says Matthews. “It’s going to be the most energy efficient speculative office block in the North. We’re trying to strip back the mystique of what that means and design simple, low-tech buildings which use significantly less energy than typical office buildings. The Hive is aimed at the creative industries with flexible units and lower rents than buildings in the central hub of the city. With that in mind we really wanted to plug it into the context of the city, its history and its present. Partly we’ll do this through artworks – one of which will be the largest piece of public art in Manchester on a building.”
And away from their own buildings what do they think are the best new structures in the city? For Matthews it’s, “the recently completed Civil Justice Centre: the best building I’ve seen in years. Staggering.”
For Doyle: “I’m going to pick two. The first would be Urbis, it might not work on the inside, but outside it’s a fantastic jewel. The second is North City Library by Walker Simpson in Harpurhey, which is both good looking and works well.”
Time will tell whether any of HKR’s new buildings will be on the favourite lists of other Manchester architects. Doyle and Matthews seem determined that that will be the case. By combining originality with flair, and a taste for real ale, they might be on to something.
http://www.manchesterconfidential.com/index.asp?Sessionx=IpqiNwImNw7lIlc6IHqjNwB6IA&realname=Build_us_up
flange January 8th, 2008, 01:59 PM Argent announces design finalists
Property developer Argent has selected its three finalists of its Hive design competition to influence the look of a new building in Manchester’s Northern Quarter up for grabs.
Around 80 designers across the UK entered the competition, judged by a panel of Oliver Butler (Argent), Danny Sinclair (Alan Johnston Partnership), Peter Saville, Jon Matthews (HKR) and Tim Whitley (Arup).
The winning design will be transformed into the largest piece of public art in Manchester which will take the form of a sun shutter across the front of the Hive building on Lever Street. The winner will also receive £5,000.
The finalists are Adam Coward and Andrew Murch from London, Neil Tinson from Cornwall and Marc Thomas and Millimetre from Brighton.
The judges will make a final decision in December 2008.
http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080107/FREE/464444925/-1/breaking/-/-/argent-announces-design-finalists
heatonparkincakes January 8th, 2008, 02:32 PM Why do I feel that it is really important for them and us to get this right.
Its a tricky one. Essentially its the bridge between the "new" Ancoats and Piccadilly Gardens and Basin.
But its also within the NQ.
Tip one way and the NQ becomes another upper deansgate, the other way and it wouldnt be profitable enough.
highriser March 16th, 2008, 03:48 AM This site is now fenced off ,,, what is the situation with the Hive ?
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8003/hive1ke7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
spoonsbeatfish March 16th, 2008, 07:22 PM Why does the Pedestrianisation and revamp of the square have to wait for this development anyway? As I read it, its untill Phase 2 or 3 that any of it even faces on to the square, or is it that the redevelopment cost is going to be paid for by the land purchase of the bus station?
flange March 16th, 2008, 07:37 PM There is 2 phases for the developement Phase 2 is the one facing Stephenson Sq, all the information is here
http://www.thehivemanchester.com/areamap.html
flange June 9th, 2008, 08:35 PM The Arts Council is being lined up as the anchor tenant of Argent's Manchester office development The Hive. The development, in Stevenson Square, comprises 76,000 sq ft of space in its first phase. The Arts Council is understood to be taking 18,000 sq ft. Phase two of the project will begin in 2009.
http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080609/FREE/50239493/-/-/whats-news
monkey_rat June 9th, 2008, 08:53 PM anyone have any idea when phase 1 starts?
heatonparkincakes June 9th, 2008, 10:23 PM That would be a coup to have a branch of the Arts Council lodged in the NQ.
Could - if its more than just a pidgeon sized office - a tasty catalyst to draw even more arty creative types to the quarter.
(Assuming of course that the surge of increasing rents following re development don t squeeze such people out.)
Mez June 9th, 2008, 10:50 PM The Express building could make a nice Tate. (from the outside at least)
heatonparkincakes June 10th, 2008, 12:55 AM Tate Mancunia
Nice ring. Doubt it though, aint it devoted to new technology and so on.
Plus Tate,a scouse well formerly so, wouldnt do the dirty in mancunia
By the way any one heard anything about that Frank Cohen art musuem in spinningfield. As I aint.
kids June 10th, 2008, 03:09 AM Maybe it would be a good idea for whitworth art gallery to reopen in the centre of town. I agree that the city definitely needs a second modern art collection, but it has it here, it just lacks presence.
SleepyOne June 10th, 2008, 08:26 PM There's images of a possible future phase - the bit fronting Stephenson Square itself on architects Piercy Connor's website.
http://www.piercyconner.co.uk/
Mez June 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2567608653_320f73d73a_o.jpg
GShutty June 10th, 2008, 09:08 PM Maybe it would be a good idea for whitworth art gallery to reopen in the centre of town. I agree that the city definitely needs a second modern art collection, but it has it here, it just lacks presence.
I take your point kids, but I think in the longer term if the city centre continues to expand, Whitworth Art Gallery, can be and hopefully will be considered as incorporated in to a greater city centre.
I like it where it is, that area just requires the regeneration and publicity. The Free buses could ostensibly run as far as here, however this would perhaps be a resource stretched too far given the volume of students and hospital users that would take advantage of this. It would take considerable investment.
SleepyOne June 10th, 2008, 09:18 PM Maybe it would be a good idea for whitworth art gallery to reopen in the centre of town. I agree that the city definitely needs a second modern art collection, but it has it here, it just lacks presence.
Beautiful building, beautiful setting, interesting collections. Leave well alone! Anyone been to see the Anne Desmet exhibition?
Has a cracking cafe too aparently though I've not visited that bit yet!
kids June 10th, 2008, 10:12 PM OR, as i should have also said, if that is too outrageous, open an arm of the place in the centre. I would like the modern art and sculpture please. Maybe in the new MBLA building opposite Afflecks.
Comdot June 10th, 2008, 10:35 PM There's images of a possible future phase - the bit fronting Stephenson Square itself on architects Piercy Connor's website.
http://www.piercyconner.co.uk/
here's some more screen grabs from the website. there are others on there, they don't show much though.
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/1.jpg
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/2.jpg
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/3.jpg
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/4.jpg
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/5.jpg
flange July 11th, 2008, 04:33 PM Manchester buzzing with Argent and council Hive deal
11.07.08
By Deirdre Hipwell
Northern Quarter arts hub project flies again after council agrees to back it
Argent’s planned redevelopment at the Northern Quarter of Manchester is back on track after a new funding agreement with Manchester City Council was agreed this week.
The Hermes-owned developer’s plans to develop the 135,000 sq ft the Hive scheme on Lever Street near Piccadilly station in Manchester were almost put on hold after funding problems arose.
The mixed-use scheme, which targets creative industries, will include a seven-storey building and a retail arcade linking to the square, and has an estimated completed value of around £20m.
The first 78,000 sq ft phase is to be anchored by the Arts Council, which has agreed to occupy 18,000 sq ft at the scheme.
In a Manchester City Council executive meeting last week, the council sought approval to assist Argent in funding the Hive through its Capital Fund in a co-development agreement with the developer.
The council said: ‘What is clear is that the Hive scheme will not happen in the present investment market conditions.
‘If it were not to happen, there is a risk that Argent will lose not only a hard-won relocation of the Arts Council, but also this powerful anchor for other associated activities that are so important to the future growth of the area.
‘Against this background, the chief executive recently met with representatives of Argent to discuss their proposals and explore a model whereby the council and Argent co-develop the Hive.’
Following the discussions, Argent will now sell the freehold of the Hive, which received planning permission in April last year, to the council.
It will then take back a geared 150-year lease and enter into a roughly 60:40 profit-share agreement with the council.
Sources say construction costs for the BREEAM ‘excellent’-rated scheme and proposed discounted rents ‘priced specifically for the creative market’ – or 20% less than grade A rents in the Piccadilly area – made funding initially difficult.
David Partridge, joint chief executive at Argent, said: ‘We are now in a position to progress our plans for the Hive, which is great news for the city. ‘In entering into another joint venture with us, Manchester City Council has illustrated its ability to back vital regeneration.
‘The council’s support has been crucial, however, as without this joint business venture, the plans would not be progressing at this pace. It helps us out and derisks the downside.’
The council said Argent has to complete construction by autumn next year to meet the Arts Council 2010 relocation deadline.
It said there was a strong case for the Hive scheme and said the scheme’s cost consultant Arup estimates that by 2013 the Hive scheme will have created 440 full-time jobs and generate an annual income of £9.3m.
http://www.propertyweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=297&storycode=3117883&c=1
macc July 11th, 2008, 04:58 PM Great news. At least something is progressing. They'll have to get their arse in gear too if this is to be done by next august. I guess we should expect an immanent start on this one.
GShutty July 12th, 2008, 12:39 AM yeah, excellent news and a really positive, robust message sent out by the council- hats off there.
This will hopefully give the Northern Quarter the impetus to kick on to the next level. The Stevenson Square revamp has been mused for sooo long!
markydeedrop July 12th, 2008, 09:08 PM http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/060-5.jpg
flange July 23rd, 2008, 12:46 PM Arts Council makes beeline for Argent’s Manchester Hive scheme
09:09 | 23.07.08
By Deirdre Hipwell
Argent has agreed an 18,000 sq ft pre-let with The Arts Council England at its proposed The Hive office development in Stevenson Square, Manchester.
The announcement follows the news last week that Argent and Manchester City Council have entered into a joint venture agreement to kick-start the first phase of 76,000 sq ft scheme which is near Piccadilly Station in the heart of the Northern Quarter.
Micheal Eakin, regional executive director at Arts Council England North West, said: ‘This marks an exciting moment for the Arts Council.
'The Hive will give us a great new base from which to continue to deliver to the region, and it will enable us to house nearly 60 new jobs in the City.
‘It feels right for us to be based in the heart of the Creative Quarter, to contribute to its continuing growth and to work with a developer like Argent to create a greener, more sustainable model of office.’
Enabling works are about to being at The Hive with a start on site planned for September this year.
http://www.propertyweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=297&storycode=3118858&c=1
macc July 23rd, 2008, 12:50 PM woohoo. Its gonna fly up, this one. Cheers flange.
jrb July 31st, 2008, 12:48 AM Seeing as the Hive is now going ahead and will eventually end up in the Construction Project thread, it needs it's own thread. (I did a SSC search but nothing came up)
Article, then renders, then competition.
From the Piccadilly Partnership website.(article removed from Manchester offices thread) Also there's a competition to design a large screen.(details below)
Arts Council makes a bee-line for The Hive
Nearly 60 new Arts Council jobs will be housed in Northern Quarter office development
http://www.piccadillymanchester.com/images/20082807pic.jpg
Property developer Argent has agreed a 18,000 sq ft pre-let with Arts Council England at The Hive office development in Stevenson Square.
The announcement follows the news last week that Argent and Manchester City Council have entered into a joint venture agreement to kick-start the first phase of The Hive scheme. The 76,000 sq ft development, designed by HKR, will provide a flexible workspace for the creative industries. Located in the heart of the Northern Quarter, it is expected to act as a magnet for inward investment as more and more businesses relocate to the city. Enabling works are imminent at The Hive, with start on site planned for September 2008.
Micheal Eakin, Regional Executive Director, Arts Council England North West said: ”This marks an exciting moment for the Arts Council. The Hive will give us a great new base from which to continue to deliver to the region, and it will enable us to house nearly 60 new jobs in the city.
It feels right for us to be based in the heart of the Creative Quarter, to contribute to its continuing growth and to work with a developer like Argent to create a greener, more sustainable model of office.”
http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/images/images1_02.jpg
http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/images/image2_02.jpg
Screen area. (below)
Design criteria.http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/downloads/design_criteria.pdf http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/information.html http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/tandcs.html
http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/images/designing-the-screen_02.jpg
http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/
heatonparkincakes July 31st, 2008, 01:18 AM Its one of those places that I will only appreciate when its built
Now I bet all those freaky cranky far right conspirators in the anti Tif brigade think big screens are some form of political correct state thought control alongside ID cards, speed cameras and public transport and global warming.
urbanresearcher July 31st, 2008, 01:26 PM Walked past this morning and the site has been fenced off and the tarmac is being ripped up by two diggers
monkey_rat August 2nd, 2008, 12:53 AM They've dug up the whole site now, there's a fairly big hole at one end.
Moving rather swiftly.
Sifter August 5th, 2008, 01:17 PM http://i36.tinypic.com/vq76vk.jpg
Chogmook August 5th, 2008, 01:47 PM Great picture! By the way, is this where the old Lever St bus station was?
flange September 5th, 2008, 05:12 PM Argent in discussion over boutique hotel for Hive
http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/2208-argent-in-discussion-over-boutique-hotel-for-hive.html
macc September 5th, 2008, 05:52 PM Can you paste the text for us please, flange? I'm not subscribed so I can't reach the link.
flange September 5th, 2008, 08:09 PM I am not subscribed to the site aswell.
jrb September 5th, 2008, 09:38 PM From http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/homepage.html
Argent in discussion over boutique hotel for Hive
5 September 2008, 14:29
Michael Hunt
Argent has confirmed it is in talks with Pret a Manger co-founder Sinclair Beecham about opening a boutique hotel at its Hive scheme in Manchester's Northern Quarter.
The developer has not yet fully acquired the site, however, a hotel is proposed for the HKR-designed scheme, overseeing Stevenson Square.
Construction on the 76,000 sq ft first phase of the 135,000 sq ft scheme officially started on 1 September.
Argent gained planning consent for the project in April last year. Completion is due for December 2009.
flange September 5th, 2008, 09:42 PM Thanks jrb, it was only reported today that Hoxton where looking to open in Manchester, so its good to see that they will probably be opening at The Hive.
Hoxton concept to expand
05.09.08
Pret a Manger founder Sinclair Beecham is searching for new locations for his hotel concept in London and regional cities following a successful two years at his debut hotel in the capital.
Beecham, who founded Pret A Manger with business partner Julian Metcalfe, opened the Hoxton Hotel in Shoreditch, east London, two years ago this week.
The hotel is running at 96% occupancy.
Beecham has finance in place from venture capitalist Bridges Community Ventures and several wealthy individuals, and in London is searching for sites ‘around the Circle line’ such as Spitalfields, Clerkenwell, Bankside and Waterloo to Victoria, Paddington, Baker Street and Euston.
Regionally he is looking at Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds, Newcastle and Bristol.
Beecham said: ‘I would like to build 10 hotels in London. In these challenging times, it is a good opportunity to find sites.’
http://www.propertyweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=36&storycode=3121824
jrb September 5th, 2008, 09:52 PM Thanks jrb, it was only reported today that Hoxton where looking to open in Manchester, so its good to see that they will probably be opening at The Hive.
http://www.propertyweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=36&storycode=3121824
No probs Flange.
flange September 5th, 2008, 09:57 PM The website for Hoxton Hotels
http://www.hoxtonhotels.com/
monkey_rat November 7th, 2008, 08:30 PM There is a crane onsite now. Big blue one.
CDX December 9th, 2008, 12:14 PM Move thread to u/c?
Promo article from the MEN.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/s/1084198_building_starts_a_buzz)
Building starts a buzz
9/12/2008
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/709.$plit/C_71_article_1084198_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?08%2F12%2F2008%2018%3A21%3A54%3A304
Argent Development's Hive office scheme
THE hoardings are up, the builders are on site and developer Argent says its Hive scheme in Manchester's Northern Quarter is buzzing with activity.
The 78,000sq ft office block, at Stevenson Square, is aimed at architects, fashion designers, photographers, public relations, media and advertising agencies.
With a 16,000sq ft letting to the Arts Council already agreed, Argent is optimistic that it will continue to act as a magnet for inward investment, as more and more businesses move to the area.
Project manager Oliver Butler said: "It is fantastic to see such a lot going on at The Hive.
"The Northern Quarter is viewed as an inspirational extension to the core of the city centre, with its own personality and distinct sense of community.
"We were therefore very careful, when developing the ideas for The Hive, to ensure that we had a scheme that was in tune with the people who live and work in the Northern Quarter and the buildings that surround it."
The Hive was designed by the Manchester office of HKR Architects to include the latest green technology.
Gavin December 9th, 2008, 01:43 PM there are concrete beams sticking out over the hoardings, so yes. Construction.
CDX January 27th, 2009, 10:54 PM From the arts council website:
http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/regions (http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/regions/project_detail.php?rid=5&id=1090&browse=recent)
Arts Council England, North West
Calling all artists!
At the beginning of 2010 we will open a brand new office facility in Manchester city centre.
To help in the realisation of this project, we have been working with Witherford Watson Mann Architects to design a new interior. We want to involve artists in the process and we are seeking submissions from individual artists or organisations to work with the design team and respond to the design process.
This is an exciting opportunity for artists to showcase their work and raise the profile of an important new national centre for Arts Council England. The new offices will be located in the Northern Quarter in Manchester, in a new development known as The Hive. The Northern Quarter is a vibrant area currently undergoing regeneration and developing a strong reputation as a hub for arts activity.
We will be making an appointment in early in 2009. The Hive will complete in December 2009 and the Arts Council anticipates being fully operational from the new address in January 2010.
Please download the brief for guidance on what we are looking for and how to submit your proposal. There is also a separate document containing the architects’ plans and drawings and details about the location.
If you would like further information about the project please contact Emma King at relocation@artscouncil.org.uk (mailto:relocation@artscouncil.org.uk)
The closing date for receipt of submissions is 28th February 2009.
Related documents
* Brief for artists [Word] (http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/downloads/hive_brief.doc)
* Architects' plans [pdf] (http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/downloads/architects_supporting_info.pdf)
AJD1984 January 28th, 2009, 01:00 AM Hi guys,
I curious as to why it hasn't been mentioned before or someone hasn't noticed it. The Hive isn't even in Stevenson's Square. Please correct me if I am wrong.
AJD1984
spoonsbeatfish January 28th, 2009, 01:05 AM It's just off it and Phase 2 will connect it to Stevenson Square. I think the main reason it was named that way, was simply to quickly illustrate more or less where it is. You are right though.
AJD1984 January 28th, 2009, 01:07 AM Thank you spoonsbeatfish. Thought it may be an historical thing that i may have not been aware of.
AJD1984
monkey_rat January 28th, 2009, 03:10 AM i have a pic of the site, shall attempt to upload in the morn.
Toetallix January 30th, 2009, 11:56 PM Next time I'm there, I will get some pics too, the next door building was my college, strange to see this go up here but should be interesting to watch, have got many pictures of the site before anything was going, was very suprised when I first saw the site surrounded by a fence.
monkey_rat February 2nd, 2009, 12:15 AM as promised
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt298/islandmonster/P26-01-09_1344.jpg
Comdot February 8th, 2009, 05:36 AM just putting this here from the manchester thread
http://www.urbanskyline.co.uk/index_01.html
The Hive
http://www.urbanskyline.co.uk/Images/Portfolio_The%20Hive.png
oakman February 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM There was an interview in the weekend papers about the Hoxton Hotel,one comment said they were in talks to open in another city,and just finalising details but couldn't say any more till the deal was signed ! So could be Manchester !
macc February 25th, 2009, 11:47 AM I thought Hoxton hotel was already signed up for this.
monkey_rat March 9th, 2009, 02:59 AM http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt298/islandmonster/P02-03-09_1422.jpg
Toetallix March 9th, 2009, 04:41 PM Looks like its really on te way up now, I'l have to get over there soon myself.
flange March 23rd, 2009, 03:20 PM Dinosaur wins Argent contract
By Richard Morris
Manchester-based property developer Argent has appointed Dinosaur Creative Agency Ltd to promote its latest project in the Northern Quarter.
Dinosaur, also based in the city, has designed a website for The Hive office development which is due for completion in January 2010. The building on Stevenson Square will contain 78,000 sq ft of office space aimed at creative businesses, part of which has already been taken by Arts Council England.
http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090323/FREE/903239979/1064/-/-/dinosaur-wins-argent-contract
The Hive's website has now been updated with all the information on the scheme
http://www.thehivemanchester.com/
And from the floorplans on the website it looks like more office space has been let to HKR Architects on floor 4, the architects who designed The Hive. The Art Council have part of the ground, 1st and 2nd floors.
markydeedrop March 24th, 2009, 08:06 PM http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/city%20centre%202009/P1000965.jpg
Toetallix April 27th, 2009, 02:06 AM http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6469.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6470.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6471.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6472.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6473.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6474.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6476.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSCF6477.jpg
Toetallix July 1st, 2009, 03:27 AM I remember it being mentioned in the 1 New York Street thread from it being visible in Comdot's photo, yes it has probably reached full height now.
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSC_1570.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSC_1571.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSC_1572.jpg
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/Toetallix/DSC_1573.jpg
SteKnight July 3rd, 2009, 12:31 AM Good update, Toetallix....thanks.
flange July 30th, 2009, 09:14 PM The Hive topped out in Northern Quarter
By Simon Binns
Argent Group Plc, Manchester City Council and Bardsley Construction have topped out The Hive, a 78,000 sq ft office development in Manchester’s Northern Quarter.
The ceremony marks the completion of the building’s structure, which started on site in August 2008. Scheduled for completion in January 2010, The Hive, which has a BREEAM excellent rating, will be aimed at creative industries and has already secured the Arts Council as anchor tenant, taking 17,000 sq ft.
Oliver Butler, Argent’s project manager at The Hive, said: “The building is proving very popular with Manchester’s creative industries. We are offering businesses the opportunity to make their own mark, to take shell and core space and fit it out how they like.”
Sir Howard Bernstein, chief executive of Manchester City Council, said: “The Northern Quarter has a distinctive identity and has become a strong brand in its own right. We are determined to preserve that character while making the most of the area's creative, independent spirit.”
Wayne Bardsley, executive chairman of Bardsley, said: “The Hive defines the future of construction and the significantly reduced environmental impact it has on the city is something to aspire to with all future building projects.”
http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090730/FREE/907309986/1026
Comdot August 5th, 2009, 11:55 PM sunday
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2%208%2009/IMG_9113%20copy.jpg
highriser August 7th, 2009, 01:39 AM Looking forward to seeing this one completed , they seem to have built this really fast up to now .
Toetallix August 7th, 2009, 12:02 PM It must block alot of sunlight going into my Good old Mancat College, never the less still looking forward to seeing it complete also!
highriser September 19th, 2009, 07:44 PM Crane taken down this afternoon .
CDX October 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM I wonder when we get the big reveal, can't wait to see that front detailing, something that gets applied after the scaffolding comes down I guess. Hopefully still on target for a December completion, with January occupation.
Great decision MCC made rescuing this one, made at just the right time to keep the Northern Quarter moving forwards, the Arts Council(and the rest of the tenants) should be a great boost for the area. A Hoxton Hotel would be ideal here, if they are still considering it.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x284/gshutty/DSC00582.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/b5pnxk.jpg (http://www.argentgroup.plc.uk/gallery/images/lever.jpg)
Huge Image Here... (http://www.argentgroup.plc.uk/gallery/images/lever.jpg)
(Thanks for the pics GShutty btw)
CDX October 20th, 2009, 06:52 PM Couple of tweets from Argent:
# The Arts Council have started the fit-out of their space; come down and have a look at what they are doing!
7:25 AM Oct 13th from web
# The Hive is looking to be completed in the next 11 weeks but if you fancy a tour before that we'll provide the hard hat and guide!
6:05 AM Oct 9th from web
http://twitter.com/TheHiveManc
flange October 26th, 2009, 06:39 PM http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1268/manchester167.jpg
Seasonedbest November 6th, 2009, 02:25 AM Covers were coming off this morning. However not sure how it progressed by the evening. I'll have a look tomorrow.
macc November 6th, 2009, 01:54 PM I wonder what ever happened to the competition to design the metal grill on the front of the building?
Look on the render on CDX's post at the metal design with the flowers on. The actual design was supposed to be be found from a competion. I hope they haven't ditched it. It was the only thing remotely fitting for the area and the only thing orginal about the building.
CDX November 6th, 2009, 07:57 PM I wonder what ever happened to the competition to design the metal grill on the front of the building?
Its the one bit i'm looking forward to seeing, I think that render pre-dates the design competition, so it will be interesting to see what appears. Found this info on the winning designers website:
the hive manchester
in June 2007, myself and Adam Coward entered into a competition to design the facade of a new creative workspace in the norther quarters of greater Manchester. The Hive is part of a city regeneration project run by Argent. we were invited up to Manchester to workshop our idea with designer Peter Saville, and in 2008 we won the competition. the building is now nearing completion and our screen is in production.
http://andrewmurch.com/work
Seasonedbest November 20th, 2009, 09:48 PM Must admit, now the covers are off, I'm not too sure about it, in fact I really don't like it. Its something about the dark grey brick. I'll be honest now and say that it looks as if its been there for 20 plus years and just had modest renovation. Its not yet finished but apart from the grill, I can't see much more they have to add. But its important for is purpose.
munklefish November 21st, 2009, 09:50 PM I still fail to see how this can be considered to be 'Stevenson Square'.
spoonsbeatfish November 22nd, 2009, 08:25 AM I still fail to see how this can be considered to be 'Stevenson Square'.
The second phase will expand on to the side of the square.
SteKnight December 12th, 2009, 05:50 PM http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/TheHive121209001.jpg?t=1260632874
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/TheHive121209002.jpg?t=1260632956
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/TheHive121209003.jpg?t=1260632999
CDX January 15th, 2010, 02:04 AM The screen is apparently going up over the next couple of weeks, anyone been past, noticed any action?
EverythingButABeach January 16th, 2010, 01:51 AM I'm no architect but could we call this style 'new brutalist', or perhaps 'faux brutalist'?
Seasonedbest January 16th, 2010, 03:24 AM faux pas brutalist
Goat Rope January 16th, 2010, 08:48 AM What-the-fo brutalist
flange January 18th, 2010, 09:48 PM Brum event company to open in Northern Quarter
18 Jan 2010, 10:44
Event venue operator The Studio has signed a deal with developer Argent to take 12,000 sq ft at The Hive development in Manchester.
The Studio will take the entire third floor of the 78,000 sq ft building, where it will operate nine event spaces capable of accommodating up to 180 guests theatre style in each. The company will also have access to four private balcony areas and a 30m long sedum garden for visitors to enjoy.
The Studio has been operating a highly successful business for three years in Birmingham City Centre and The Hive will be its second base in the UK.
Oliver Butler, project manager at Argent, said of the deal: "As soon as we visited The Studio in Birmingham the synergies became apparent. The Hive ticked all of the boxes from proximity to the main train station, to providing a contemporary feel with unique external spaces and excellent environmental credentials."
Emma Jennings, co-director of The Studio, said: "We looked at many sites in the Manchester area and none could have been more perfect than The Hive. We wanted a vibrant, readily accessible location with a diverse range of clients nearby. We're really excited to be bringing The Studio to The Hive and looking forward to supporting the event requirements of both our fellow tenants and the wider Manchester business community."
The Studio will join the Arts Council England at The Hive, which will achieve practical completion at the end of this month almost 50% let.
Colliers CRE and Daniel Harris & Co are joint letting agents for Argent.
http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/5149-brum-event-company-to-open-in-northern-quarter.html
rolybling January 18th, 2010, 10:21 PM Can't we just call it a bollocks up? I don't like it. This is the sort of building people will be screaming to be pulled down in forty years or so, it's ugly now..jeez, and how is that render going to fair under Manchester skies? And where in this 'new home for creativity' is the light coming from, don't creative people need light, natural light and lots of it? Look at those windows! The only thing/s I'll ever like about this building is the artistic creativity that comes out of it, other than that it's got nothing to offer.
Cherguevara January 18th, 2010, 10:23 PM And where in this 'new home for creativity' is the light coming from, don't creative people need light, natural light and lots of it?
No they need to suffer for their art, which apparently is exactly what they'll be doing.
rolybling January 18th, 2010, 10:28 PM Indeed. I wonder how long it will take for occupiers to move to more 'suitable premises'?
Manc Guy January 19th, 2010, 10:56 AM No they need to suffer for their art, which apparently is exactly what they'll be doing.
:nuts:
Madchester Guy January 20th, 2010, 02:03 AM I think it's okay to be honest. It's not like it makes a huge impact on the cityscape.
Splurb January 31st, 2010, 09:27 PM The screen is apparently going up over the next couple of weeks, anyone been past, noticed any action?
Screen was going up today, a couple of the panels were up. Got a couple of camera phone pics although not got an account anywhere to upload them as yet.
Seemed to be a lot of small curved arrows pointing in different directions etched into the mesh - not sure if there is meant to be an overall pattern across all the panels, couldn't really tell. Wasn't particularly overwhelmed on first impressions, but I shall reserve judgement until it is all finished.
andysimo123 February 1st, 2010, 12:28 AM Screen was going up today, a couple of the panels were up. Got a couple of camera phone pics although not got an account anywhere to upload them as yet.
Seemed to be a lot of small curved arrows pointing in different directions etched into the mesh - not sure if there is meant to be an overall pattern across all the panels, couldn't really tell. Wasn't particularly overwhelmed on first impressions, but I shall reserve judgement until it is all finished.
http://photobucket.com/ is the best place to upload images. Then you just use the [ img][ /img] tags
Splurb February 2nd, 2010, 12:08 AM http://photobucket.com/ is the best place to upload images. Then you just use the [ img][ /img] tags
Thanks Andy. Hopefully these will work...
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af134/JonnyTwoHats/DSC00053.jpg
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af134/JonnyTwoHats/DSC00052.jpg
Seasonedbest February 2nd, 2010, 12:32 AM I hate the term 'missed opportunity,' as it always seems to come from people who are probably not in a position to judge and is used rather copiously. But if there ever was one, this is it. Arrows? What happened to the 'in bloom' flowers from the render signifying creativity.
I'll have a proper look when I pass it tomorrow.
oscar9 February 2nd, 2010, 10:19 PM Its looks like it could be a telephone exchange
monkey_rat February 2nd, 2010, 10:59 PM I think this building will look better when the building next door (fronting stevenson square) is replaced by something bulkier. It looks a wee bit out of place at the moment.
It's certainly not terrible though. If you go down lever street and turn left just before the travelodge down the sidestreet there's a good view of the arcade that runs through the middle of the new building.
Manc Guy February 3rd, 2010, 02:48 PM You were all fooled by the moody redners.
Not me...
Jerv February 3rd, 2010, 09:02 PM I like it.
jrb February 4th, 2010, 12:16 AM It seems Belfast also has a Hive.
http://www.aidan.co.uk/md/NiBPoliceStnDoneglPass7Y17.jpg
(where did I put that pertol bomb?)
CDX February 24th, 2010, 07:35 PM ARGENT AND MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL COMPLETE THE HIVE
24/02/10
Argent and Manchester City Council have announced the practical completion of their joint venture development, The Hive, located in the heart of Manchester’s Northern Quarter.
http://www.thehivemanchester.co.uk/latest-news/argent-and-manchester-city-council-complete-the-hive
A few quick shots from last week,
http://i48.tinypic.com/535ytx.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2m6v3o5.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1zp4i29.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2304g7.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2e2m7bs.jpg
markydeedrop February 24th, 2010, 08:56 PM The Hive's design, from HKR Architects, will divide opinion. From Lever Street it is two chunky boxes over fussy brick undergrowth: big, ballsy and forthright. It's impressive and it doesn't give a damn for its surroundings.
The fact it's so dogmatic isn't a problem, within 500 metres you've got the old Daily Express Building, across the road is the former Royal Mail building, Griffin House, and a little to the south an ocean of Victorian and Edwardian warehouses. None of these spared a thought for the neighbours. Manchester hasn't been a city for architectural good manners since the 1880s.
The architects disagree with our assessment. Carly Grice of HKR told us: "The Northern Quarter is a special area of the city so we wanted to fit with the context. So in the main lower elements we kept with a three storey parapet on Lever Street, above that we have the boxes, the two towers we call them, which punctuate the design. We have a step backed aspect to Spear Street which gives the offices on that side plenty of amenity space over a narrow street, then there's a central arcade for natural ventilation."
You're joking about fitting in, we said. The Hive only fits in with the context of the Northern Quarter by being as maverick and individual as so many other Northern Quarter buildings. Take the brickwork which looks a bit like a feature you'd find on a 1960s' state school, the tones used here are the wrong colour to 'fit in'. "Ah yes," said Carly Grice, "but we wanted to vary the brick colours because we wanted to provide a contrast between the elements of the building, top, middle and bottom. We didn't want red brick to do this."
Disagreements aside, the way the building fronts up to the street and gives it extra presence is welcome. It's design is eye-catching too, certainly on Lever Street.
As for the nitty gritty, the building provides around 80,000 sq ft of office workspace, and is intended to (we quote) 'be a new hub for business in this unique part of the city'. We love the notion of a hive being a hub. But cutting out the waffle, the building is attempting to tap into that image of the Northern Quarter as being packed full with creative industry types. It certainly offers an attractive range of office suites for all sizes of small to medium businesses. Or for that matter government quangos and agencies.
It has all the latest green street cred too. The building has received a BREEAM ‘Excellent’ rating for its use of green planting on the rooftops, natural ventilation and energy efficient service systems. It has received a grade ‘B’ energy performance rating, which the official notices are quick to point out isn't too bad when you consider only one building in the UK (in Cardiff) has received an ‘A’ rating.
So far The Arts Council England with 1,672 sq m (18,000 sq ft) and events venue specialist thestudio, have taken space at the building - 40% of the total lettable space.
Argent is the developer. They have already made a significant impact in the city with Piccadilly Place and One Piccadilly. Oliver Butler, project manager at Argent, explains the idea behind The Hive. “The vision was to create a landmark building for the Northern Quarter, and to help enhance the community with a great new facility. We are confident that The Hive will continue to attract a diverse range of businesses and generate further investment into this part of the City.”
Overall Confidential gives this place a thumbs up, and Argent a big thumbs up for bringing it to completion in these blighted times.
http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/Property/General/The-Hive-starts-to-buzz_10444.asp
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eyeam March 8th, 2010, 01:19 AM This must be one of the worst new developments in Manc for a long while.
It just looks so drab, depressing and brutal even though it's brand new. Imagine what it will be like in 10, 15, 20 years...
Seasonedbest March 8th, 2010, 02:58 AM You never know, it might become better in that time. I bought some boat shoes two years ago and got the piss ripped big time. Now I'm laughing cos they're everywhere (though I've now happily moved on from them)
monkey_rat March 8th, 2010, 01:03 PM It's fine.
I like how it helps turn Spear Street back into a real street of sorts, everyone side of the building has windows/entrances rather than just a blank wall.
The little boutique thing is cool too.
I tell ya, when they do the second phase, which will be of a similar size I imagine, it will look less out of place.
spoonsbeatfish March 9th, 2010, 01:28 PM It's fine.
I like how it helps turn Spear Street back into a real street of sorts, everyone side of the building has windows/entrances rather than just a blank wall.
The little boutique thing is cool too.
I tell ya, when they do the second phase, which will be of a similar size I imagine, it will look less out of place.
No designs have ever been posted for the second phase have there?
CDX March 9th, 2010, 03:15 PM There's a few renders of something on page 3 of the thread,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=21597539&postcount=44
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/stevenson%20square/2.jpg
quite how visionary those were :dunno:
I wonder what stage they're are at in acquiring the building/s fronting the square, from looking at a couple of recent apps for the ground floor units, they don't seem to have changed hands. This recently got permission, for one of the units fronting the square, from Crains a few weeks back,
Corbieres Wine Cellar, the cellar bar on Manchester's Half Moon Street which has been trading for more than 30 years, is to open a second outlet in the city's Northern Quarter. The bar has been owned for the past ten years by Mike Hayes and Dave Redrobe, and their company has been granted planning permission to convert the former Milanzi warehouse unit on Stevenson Square. A licence has been granted until midnight between Thursday and Sunday and until 2am at weekends.
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?keyval=KQDIR2BC00700&searchtype=PROPERTY&module=P3
monkey_rat March 9th, 2010, 03:17 PM Nah not that I can recall...
The only thing I can remember reading about the second phase that the indoor boutique thing will be accessible from Stevenson Square (hence another permeable building).
GShutty March 9th, 2010, 07:25 PM A mate of mine works in the buildings that would be replaced. He said that they are styructurally on their last legs so would need replacing at some point anyway........
GShutty March 11th, 2010, 12:32 PM Couple of images of the Arcade and communal entrance to the offices. This will also lead on to Lever St, which is currently box off in the images in grey painted chip-board. The Hive will look better when this is removed though personally I'll buck the trend, as i'm already a fan:
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GShutty May 7th, 2010, 03:42 PM I've seen what I assume are prospective tenants wandering around this week. Here's the latest:
Sorry, I can't make this top photo spin 45, but you get the idea... the Arts Council, England have arrived:
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Toetallix May 8th, 2010, 04:32 AM [QUOTE=GShutty;53249613]
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x284/gshutty/Picture220.jpg
One of the invaders peering into the hive...
Nice pics, I didnt realise it had opened yet, still strange it being there since my college mates and I played football on the bus station that used to be there.
Toetallix May 24th, 2010, 07:52 PM http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs553.snc3/30249_395401767062_533872062_4756478_5056108_n.jpg
Sir Miles Platting May 24th, 2010, 11:59 PM Not sure about the giant bug-screens...
Seasonedbest May 25th, 2010, 02:09 AM I always said the arrows were to small to have a decent effect. They really do look like dirty grills from distance and not the magical collage cut-out as promised.
flange September 14th, 2010, 10:05 PM 'Series of parties' in talks about The Hive
14 Sep 2010, 11:40
Michael Hunt
Argent is reporting keen interest in its 80,000 sq ft office building in the heart of Manchester's Northern Quarter, ahead of its launch on Thursday 7 October.
Arts Council England has already taken 20,000 sq ft at The Hive and Studio Venues occupies 10,000 sq ft of space.
Daniel Harris, from Daniel Harris & Co, said: "It's quite a funky space and we're talking to a series of parties about the space which is unique and meets the requirements of a diverse and real mix of users.
"The Northern Quarter currently has a mix of IT, design, and fashion companies, so it's about what else there is and The Hive is a much more quality building for the area. The building also has a lot of environment credentials including sedum rooftops. So we've had some good enquires and it may be to the liking of some and not others."
Bardsley Construction was appointed as the main contractor for The Hive.
Colliers CRE is joint letting agent on the building.
http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/7144-series-of-parties-in-talks-about-the-hive.html
CDX December 20th, 2010, 01:11 AM Argent bigging up the Hive, from AJ,
Was 2010 a good year for you? The industry tells the AJ about the highs and lows of the last 12 months
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David Partridge, joint chief executive of Argent Estates
The election of the Coalition Government and the Comprehensive Spending Review has to be the most important event, not just of 2010, but of the decade. It will have a far reaching impact on all aspects of the built environment – planning, regional development, the provision of housing, schools and the government estate, to name but a few.
My highlight of the year was the completion of our deal with BNP Paribas Real Estate at King’s Cross Central, which will result in a new 350,000 sq ft office building right next to St Pancras International Station. It’s been a great announcement to make towards the end of 2010 – it’s just a shame we’ll have to wait until the New Year until we announce the other deals going through.
Favourite Building of 2010: The Hive in Manchester – designed by the team from HKR who are now 5plus and developed by Argent.
http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/news-review-how-the-profession-saw-2010/8609276.article
Anything Manchester related Argent???
While i'm in the thread...
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www.thehivemanchester.com
Tibs January 7th, 2011, 09:21 PM Are there any Interior shots of The Hive around?
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