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RobH December 2nd, 2010, 06:34 PM Maybe true but I don't think anyone can argue that Russia didn't also have a very good bid. They deserve it. They've never hosted before and in fact, as they pointed out in their presentation, eastern Europe has never hosted before.
Russia certainly deserve it, so well done to them, but by the same token I sincerely hope that we have investigative journalists crawling all over FIFA now we've got absolutely nothing to lose. This is the silver lining we MUST see happening after our defeat. The organisation is in need of total overhaul (and my posting history shows I'm not just saying this because England didn't win).
mdhar.v12 December 2nd, 2010, 06:34 PM Qatar======Another 9/11,what a shock ,still unbelievable.......It's better to stage world cup in India than in Qatar.........as half of the population there are Indians ..............at least in India we will allow people to drink Beers.....:lol::lol::lol:
EPA001 December 2nd, 2010, 06:34 PM A World Cup is for people to meet. I can remember WC '82 , '98 en '06. Those WC's I visited. It was nice seeing so many foreign people celebrating and having fun together. I’m afraid we won't see such scenes during the WC 18 and 22!
So true, so true. They followed the money, that is clear. :( It is nice for the real fans in these countries, but with the "overwhelming" population in Qatar the actual number will be dramatically low. :bash: :(
AlekseyVT December 2nd, 2010, 06:35 PM Good present in my birthday!!! I'm sorry, but I must leave you and go celebrate!
Brits, don't need to drink so much! :)
Mr Trebus December 2nd, 2010, 06:36 PM England had by far the most deserving bid and should have got it but nevermind..we should have just paid them off like the corrupt russians did.Russia has given nothing to Football and Qatar:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Schmeek December 2nd, 2010, 06:37 PM The thing is, I would like to congratulate Russia but for two reasons:
1.The fact Qatar have also won a vote by the same bunch of cretins, it devalues Russia's win for me.
2. Aleksey whateverhisnameis.
FIFA stink.
This surely is the end of world football as we know it.
-Corey- December 2nd, 2010, 06:37 PM Wikileaks need to look into FIFA
Brum Knows Best December 2nd, 2010, 06:38 PM Qatar======Another 9/11,what a shock ,still unbelievable.......It's better to stage world cup in India than in Qatar.........as half of the population there are Indians ..............at least in India we will allow people to drink Beers.....:lol::lol::lol:
How does Qatar = another 9/11???
Was hoping england would win, but hope Russia and Qatar host good world cups
goral_kamil December 2nd, 2010, 06:38 PM Congratulations to:
Russia 2018
and
Qatar 2022
:dance:
Ecological December 2nd, 2010, 06:39 PM Well unlike Qatar us Brits will be able to have a drink tonight in public and our girlfriends can go out wearing sexy little skirts :lol:
fayzeen December 2nd, 2010, 06:41 PM http://www.thenational.ae/deployedfiles//Assets/Richmedia/Image/sp27no-Qatar.jpg
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Ecological December 2nd, 2010, 06:41 PM Spurs' Jermain Defoe
'Congratulations to Russia Blatter's Legacy of taking the World cup to new frontiers continues.'
Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand
'Prince william, prime minister,boris,becks all that effort + we still get overlooked....yet russian president and main man too busy 2 attend.'
Sunderland Chairman Niall Quinn
‘We're disappointed & devastated. Looks like politics had played a part. But people from this region should be very proud.’
UK tennis star Anne Keothavong
'Why do you think England didn't win the bid for the #WorldCup in 2018? I'm disappointed about the decision, are you??'
Cricketer Darren Gough
'Disgrace Get him [Sepp Blatter] off the tele now Up his own arse.'
Comedian Danny Wallace
'Shame about 2018. We sent Becks, a Prince and a Prime Minister. Putin didn't even bother going. But everyone should be proud of the effort.'
London Mayor Boris Johnson
'Extremely disappointing. We had an awesome bid and knockout presentation. Can’t quite believe it.'
Ex Liverpool star and pundit Stan Collymore
'Boycott FIFA,a f**king disgrace of an organisation.'
X Factor runner-up Olly Murs
'Gutted we didn't get the 2018 world cup!!!! : (.'
Presenter Kirstie Mary Allsopp
'We should have sent Kate Moss, clearly taking models is what wins it for you!!!'
Golfer Rory Mcilroy
'Now Qatar!! FIFA only interested in the CASH!!'
Tennis star Andy Murray
'Russia and qatar wow hmmmm.'
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 06:42 PM Sorry, but Blatter DID say "Two Twenty Two Qatar".
2 20 2
2202!!!
RobH December 2nd, 2010, 06:42 PM So, all that money England 2018 promised to go to football development worldwide can now be spent on Burton I guess. :)
shahmeer December 2nd, 2010, 06:42 PM Well unlike Qatar us Brits will be able to have a drink tonight in public and our girlfriends can go out wearing sexy little skirts :lol:
So what is so special about it :nuts:
mdhar.v12 December 2nd, 2010, 06:42 PM One can easily predict from the selection of Qatar2022..that 2026 world cup will be in Zambia and 2030 will be in Brunei..............and 2050 on Moon:nuts::nuts::nuts:
CiudadanoDelMundo December 2nd, 2010, 06:44 PM Congratulations from Spain to Russia and Qatar!! You both deserve it!...
...lots of mouths have been shut....cheers for that!
dacrio December 2nd, 2010, 06:44 PM BBC Sport understands England were eliminated in the first round of voting, with Russia earning an absolute majority (12 votes) in round two.
Cafetëro December 2nd, 2010, 06:45 PM I am gutted for England not to get it, but congratulations to Russia. However I was always under the impression that in a bid one city could have no more than 2 stadiums in order to host. So bearing that in mind how the hell did Qatar win, with its capital Doha bidding with 6 stadiums.
Just reported on the news that England only managed to get 3 votes in the 1st round which allowed Russia to win in the 2nd round.
This is incredible!! how to waste your money for one month with nonsense..... QATAR WC 2022.
FIFA must be coherent with his acts, a few months ago they thinked in africa and the development they need to be more equal, 12 year later they will allow this crap!! :ohno:
Did Qatar have a decent football league, how many professional teams host DOHA?
nikolina_fan December 2nd, 2010, 06:46 PM So, all that money England 2018 promised to go to football development worldwide can now be spent on Burton I guess. :)
:lol: Nice. I like Burton, especailly on Football Manager.
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 06:46 PM Well, one other thing has definitely been clarified by the votes:
Contrary to FIFA recommendations, there is absolutely no need for a bidding nation to ensure a wide and even geographical spread of stadiums.
The vast majority of stadiums in Qatar will be in one city. And all but one of Russia's host cities are in the west of the country. Even the one in the east, Yekaterinburg, is at the very western edge of the east!
So, if England ever decides to bid again (and that is highly doubtful, given that they didn't even get past the first round), we could use five or six stadiums in London and another four in the Manchester / Liverpool area!
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 06:47 PM BBC Sport understands England were eliminated in the first round of voting, with Russia earning an absolute majority (12 votes) in round two.
Collusion between England and Russia in round 2? :lol:
MoreOrLess December 2nd, 2010, 06:47 PM If I were Russian I'd be worried about whether FIFA will still exist in its current form by 2018.
Besides the obviously negative attension that Qatar winning 2022 will generate awarding two WC's looks like it may have backfired massively to me. Pretty much everyone seems to be pissed off with these results, perhaps most importantly though the most important footballing nations will be. I will not be at all supprized if both winning bids were backed by members from devolping footballing nations.
To me thats a potentially very dangerous situation for FIFA, what they fear most is IMHO not negative publicity since afterall there not accountable to anyone(plus unlike the Oylimpics Football's popularity is so great it can withstand almost any level of corruption being exposed) but rather a spilt in power, espeically the western european nations turning agenst them.
PejatBR December 2nd, 2010, 06:47 PM Congraculations to Russia and Qatar
When Blatter opened the envelope and said : "And the winner is..."
It should be: "And who paid more is..."
Well FIFA is doing the same with the WC that the FIA is doing with F1.
Making it more international and boring.
fayzeen December 2nd, 2010, 06:47 PM Qatar 2022
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watch Mr bill clinton he was smile ... he accept the loss as man
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 06:48 PM England had by far the most deserving bid and should have got it but nevermind..we should have just paid them off like the corrupt russians did.Russia has given nothing to Football and Qatar:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Oh, do shut up. You're embarrassing yourself.
RobH December 2nd, 2010, 06:49 PM :lol: Nice. I like Burton, especailly on Football Manager.
Sorry, Burton is the planned England football academy, I should have explained
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9207002.stm
Ekumenopolis December 2nd, 2010, 06:50 PM One can easily predict from the selection of Qatar2022..that 2026 world cup will be in Zambia and 2030 will be in Brunei..............and 2050 on Moon:nuts::nuts::nuts:
In that case WC 2050 will rock! From this day i support FIFA World Cup Moon 2050!
-Corey- December 2nd, 2010, 06:51 PM Well Is Qatar! who knows if the country will even exist in 2022!
dacrio December 2nd, 2010, 06:51 PM Collusion between England and Russia in round 2? :lol:
it seems :lol:
Red85 December 2nd, 2010, 06:52 PM Put it into perspective.
England who take 100,000's of thousands of fans abroad, who have the biggest league in the world, who have introduced kick racism out of the game, introduced all seater stadiums and superior security then any other nation, who've continually funded these fucking cheats and we still dont get it.
What more is there to do then withdraw all funding and breakaway from FIFA with Australasia and Asian Countries. Most of Africa will then follow then we will see where these mugs are.
Qatar haven't even played in a world cup. Why should there people ever get to see a world cup ahead of 60 million Football loving English fans.
ITS A FUCKING DISGRACE.
QFT
Money money money
LMAO here.
I was hoping England would have got it. Best venue's, best admosphere, home of the game and the final at the most sacred ground in all history of football.
But no, it stead of going for that they go for money and mafia, and oil dollars and slavery. Slavery in Qatar because all the stadiums will be build by brought in Pakistanies, Indians and Indonesians who work for a 50 dollar wage a month. Enhance the buildingsites of Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Bahrein. Seriously, what does a WC in a country with 2 million inhabitants do? What in the name of blatter will they do after the WC with all these stadiums?
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 06:53 PM Well Is Qatar! who knows if the country will even exist in 2022!
That's actually a very good question! What happens if a country ceases to exist after being awarded the World Cup?
Mr Trebus December 2nd, 2010, 06:54 PM So what is so special about it :nuts:
being a pakistani you obviously love corruption as seen in the cricket.Wtf would you know about football anyway?
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 06:55 PM That's actually a very good question! What happens if a country ceases to exist after being awarded the World Cup?
FIFA stage it in their arses.
AdidasGazelle December 2nd, 2010, 06:55 PM The Qatar result proves that FIFA is corrupt to its core. I'm all for new hosts instead of the same old boring places but this has gone too far. It doesn't make sense. A new low for the utter shambles that is FIFA.
timmy- brissy December 2nd, 2010, 06:55 PM How can Doha host it when only 2 stadiums are aloud for 1 city. So that how many cities has Qatar got? Football has become a joke, i will not be watching 2022 WC because it displays what's wrong with this world.
-Corey- December 2nd, 2010, 06:55 PM According to SKy Sport News, England just got 2 votes!
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 06:56 PM being a pakistani you obviously love corruption as seen in the cricket.Wtf would you know about football anyway?
Are you actively trying to get yourself banned? Way to go, if you are.
coth December 2nd, 2010, 06:56 PM i dont even bother to see this from the point of view of qatar (dictatorship, oil money, tons of money vasted)
but
FIFA has multi-billion dollar industries supporting the event and the whole sport
wouldnt Adidas etc. be happier with a 320 million market like USA hosting the event? think of the publicity soccer would have gotten in the USA
bunch of corrupt "sport diplomats" turn my stomach (like our head of state the c.sucker)
USA is already a developed market. You will hardly make anyhow more from what you have right now there. And it's easier for a foreign visitor to visit Qatar than USA with complicated visa requirements. From investor's point of view Russia and China are best options of course. Because that means expanding potential markets.
fayzeen December 2nd, 2010, 06:58 PM coth congratulations from Qatar
Mr. Fitz December 2nd, 2010, 06:58 PM Russia and Qatar how corrupt can you get? 2022 will be the shittest world cup of all time.
mdhar.v12 December 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM One would be watching football game along with Osam bin laden,Ayman al-Zawahiri, and other top Al-Qaeda members.........fuck FIFA
slipperydog December 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM Final round: Qatar 14, USA 8
gezza December 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM Well 'congratulations' :ohno:to Russia and qatar..neither deserved to win or had the best bid but money talks.Russia will build some good stadiums but brown envelopes with a corrupt and odious organisation like FIFA got it over the line.
England invented the game, spread it around the world and has the most popular and watched and financially successful league in the world with a huge number of the worlds best players in magnificent stadia in a modern multicultural country with great infrastructure backed by a great bid presentation but alas it wasnt enough.:nuts:
The only comforting thing from my perspective thing is that when an obscure middle eastern country of under 1 million people:lol: whose technical report lamented and highlighted the ridiculous barren inadequacies of its bid wins the world cup you know what a crock of corrupt slimeballs FIFA are:bash:
It will be brilliant having 12 grounds in one city and playing in 44 degree heat in a mono cultural country with no football interest or heritage..Brilliant work FIFA you cunts.
You could not have put it better - sums up the views of millions..
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM I wonder what would've happened if all bids were for both 2018 and 2022 until the end.
London_Canary December 2nd, 2010, 07:00 PM According to SKy Sport News, England just got 2 votes!
That's an insult to Fifa's integrity as much as much as anything, really can't fault Englands bid team here, they did all they could but Fifa simply weren't interested from the start. It's disgraceful how a nation who has done so much for this sport can be snubbed by the clowns at Fifa.
rantanamo December 2nd, 2010, 07:00 PM The direction of Formula 1
Mr Trebus December 2nd, 2010, 07:01 PM Are you actively trying to get yourself banned? Way to go, if you are.
sorry dad.
Axelferis December 2nd, 2010, 07:01 PM -russia
- quatar
i predicted it :cheers:
Kampflamm December 2nd, 2010, 07:04 PM Average high in Qatar in July: 46°C. This will be the crappiest WC ever.
isakres December 2nd, 2010, 07:04 PM Both will be interesting WC, but im excited specially for Qatar 2022!
Jonesy55 December 2nd, 2010, 07:06 PM Congratulations Russia and Qatar!
Russia was a good bid, the country has a good football tradition and its good that eastern Europe will host the tournament for the first time. Obviously I hoped that England would win and I thought that our bid was also good but I'm not distraught, Russia 2018 will be a good tournament I'm sure.
As for Qatar, hmmm, holding the WC in a tiny nation with one city and no football tradition is a bizarre choice imo. If FIFA wanted a tournament in MENA region then Iran, Morocco, Egypt, even Saudi Arabia have much stronger football traditions and multiple cities though there would clearly be financial or 'other' issues with those countries.
I could even understand a joint gulf bid with UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait but to give the WC to Qatar alone seems odd to me.
Looking at Google maps the non-Doha stadium locations seem to be in the middle of barren desert with no town or city in sight! I'm sure they will build the stadiums and infrastructures well, they have plenty of money after all but it will be a strange tournament.
fayzeen December 2nd, 2010, 07:07 PM Qatar celebrations
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JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:07 PM According to SKy Sport News, England just got 2 votes!
England have to ask themselves some very searching questions.
They have a very strong and compelling bid. They have more development programmes around the world than any other nation, helping to spread the gospel of football and giving opportunities and training to young people who might otherwise not get the chance. They offer FIFA the probability of the most commercially successful bid. They have fantastic stadiums and infrastructure. They have a huge and passionate fan base. It is the safest possible bid.
Yet they never seem to secure many votes. The strength of England's bid doesn't seem to count very much among FIFA delegates. Perhaps the strength of England's bid is also its weakness? FIFA likes to think that it is taking football to new markets and helping to make a better world as a result. That's fine and Russia is a worthy winner. But should that always be FIFA's ideal?
What of the next World Cup in Europe? If England bids, it will still have the same strengths. Will FIFA say again that they have to take the World Cup to countries where football isn't so well developed? Because, if so, England will never again host the World Cup. Or, at least, not for a thousand years.
So what can England do?
Walbanger December 2nd, 2010, 07:08 PM That's an insult to Fifa's integrity as much as much as anything, really can't fault Englands bid team here, they did all they could but Fifa simply weren't interested from the start. It's disgraceful how a nation who has done so much for this sport can be snubbed by the clowns at Fifa.
Though I have no problem with Russia 2018, it hurts all losers.
Got to wonder what FIFA's aversion to England is, they fricken made the Game.
slipperydog December 2nd, 2010, 07:09 PM USA received 3 votes in 1st round, 5 in 2nd round, 6 in 3rd round, 8 in last round
slipperydog December 2nd, 2010, 07:10 PM First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 07:10 PM So what can England do?
Get more oil and be more friendly with other nations people. Oh! And get more oil.
Kampflamm December 2nd, 2010, 07:11 PM Population of:
Qatar (entire country!): 1,696,563
London (Urban): 8,278,251
Greater Manchester: 2,240,230
Metro Liverpool: 1,103,089
AdidasGazelle December 2nd, 2010, 07:12 PM England have to ask themselves some very searching questions.
So what can England do?
Start passing brown envelopes around.
slipperydog December 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
Second round: Japan 2, Korea 5, USA 5, Qatar 10 votes
Third round: Korea 5, USA 6, Qatar 11
Fourth round: USA 8, Qatar 14
gezza December 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
England and Australia go first round, I guess there is no need for a technical report then... Corrupt Scum.
Walbanger December 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM Perhaps the strength of England's bid is also its weakness? FIFA likes to think that it is taking football to new markets and helping to make a better world as a result. That's fine and Russia is a worthy winner. But should that always be FIFA's ideal?
So what can England do?
In that case it should hav ecome to Australia.
But no, it's about lining your pockets with dirty money.
England can either shake its head and just go for Euro Championships or it can give FIFA a big Fuck You! and leave, hopefuly with Holland, Belgium, Australia, USA, Japan, Korea and the whole of Oceania on side to for an alturistic alternative.
timmy- brissy December 2nd, 2010, 07:14 PM So what can England do?
Become rich, in a isolated deserted place with around 1.6 million people in a place where people outside of it don't want to play football or even watch it, whereby alcohol isn't aloud, women have to cover up, people die from humidity. Oh and build 12 new stadiums which will never be used again after world cup.
Axelferis December 2nd, 2010, 07:14 PM and tell BBC to broadcast their investigations after final bid annoucement :lol:
Dimethyltryptamine December 2nd, 2010, 07:14 PM First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
Vote buying obviously did not go on here.
I feel bad for the US. Chicago 2016, now this! The only country I would have enjoyed losing to... but we both lose to Qatard
RobH December 2nd, 2010, 07:14 PM England have to ask themselves some very searching questions.
They have a very strong and compelling bid. They have more development programmes around the world than any other nation, helping to spread the gospel of football and giving opportunities and training to young people who might otherwise not get the chance. They offer FIFA the probability of the most commercially successful bid. They have fantastic stadiums and infrastructure. They have a huge and passionate fan base. It is the safest possible bid.
Yet they never seem to secure many votes. The strength of England's bid doesn't seem to count very much among FIFA delegates. Perhaps the strength of England's bid is also its weakness? FIFA likes to think that it is taking football to new markets and helping to make a better world as a result. That's fine and Russia is a worthy winner. But should that always be FIFA's ideal?
What of the next World Cup in Europe? If England bids, it will still have the same strengths. Will FIFA say again that they have to take the World Cup to countries where football isn't so well developed? Because, if so, England will never again host the World Cup. Or, at least, not for a thousand years.
So what can England do?
Cut all monetary ties with FIFA until the likes of Jack Warner are gone and ensure our media are all over them for the next few years.
I was completely embarrassed by the treatment of known criminals within FIFA's ExCo by our PM and our bid team, and saddened by their criticism of our media in uncovering them. At least we'll see no more of that.
England's bid was as good as it could have been, but I don't want our country to have any more to do with FIFA than is necessary until our government is confident they're on the level.
Internal questioning is fair enough in some situations, but the external factors were so out of kilter with any culture of modern transparency that there's no point asking what more we could have done to win in this instance. Internal questioning now would be a bit like worrying about the shampoo you'd used before your trip to the guillotine.
Walbanger December 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
Second round: Japan 2, Korea 5, USA 5, Qatar 10 votes
Third round: Korea 5, USA 6, Qatar 11
Fourth round: USA 8, Qatar 14
Unbelievable.
I hope they all meet unpleasent ends.
slipperydog December 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM 2018 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: England 2 votes, Netherlands/Belgium 4 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 9 votes (as no absolute majority was reached, the candidate with least amount of votes, England, was eliminated)
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 13 votes (Russia obtained an absolute majority)
2022 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: Australia 1 vote, Japan 3 votes, Korea Republic 4 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 3 votes (Australia eliminated)
Round 2: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)
Round 3: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)
Round 4: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)
likasz December 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM In 2022 Qatar will be a football powerhouse because they will buy many talented and young players from Brazil, Argentina, Africa and Europe;)
But if the country won't has a place in World Cup for the hosting nation so it doesn't really matter that they have World Cup2022
London_Canary December 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM England have to ask themselves some very searching questions.
They have a very strong and compelling bid. They have more development programmes around the world than any other nation, helping to spread the gospel of football and giving opportunities and training to young people who might otherwise not get the chance. They offer FIFA the probability of the most commercially successful bid. They have fantastic stadiums and infrastructure. They have a huge and passionate fan base. It is the safest possible bid.
Yet they never seem to secure many votes. The strength of England's bid doesn't seem to count very much among FIFA delegates. Perhaps the strength of England's bid is also its weakness? FIFA likes to think that it is taking football to new markets and helping to make a better world as a result. That's fine and Russia is a worthy winner. But should that always be FIFA's ideal?
What of the next World Cup in Europe? If England bids, it will still have the same strengths. Will FIFA say again that they have to take the World Cup to countries where football isn't so well developed? Because, if so, England will never again host the World Cup. Or, at least, not for a thousand years.
So what can England do?
Not much we can do until those clowns at Fifa are gone. Generations of people in England will never get to see a world cup on home soil now, for what? Loving the game too much? Fifa needs to get it's priorities right, I'm all for developing the game in area's where it has yet to take off, but don't punish those that already have an existing passion and fanbase amongst it's country.
Steel City Suburb December 2nd, 2010, 07:17 PM What a shocking day for football.
Mr Trebus December 2nd, 2010, 07:20 PM Go Faroe islands 2026:cheers:
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:21 PM 2018 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: England 2 votes, Netherlands/Belgium 4 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 9 votes (as no absolute majority was reached, the candidate with least amount of votes, England, was eliminated)
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 13 votes (Russia obtained an absolute majority)
2022 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: Australia 1 vote, Japan 3 votes, Korea Republic 4 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 3 votes (Australia eliminated)
Round 2: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)
Round 3: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)
Round 4: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)
Obviously, one of England's votes was our very own Geoff Thompson. Guesses as to the other?
My money's on the USA delegate.
likasz December 2nd, 2010, 07:21 PM Silesia 2030;P
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:22 PM Go Faroe islands 2026:cheers:
Ignoring your other posts, that is actually quite funny!
gezza December 2nd, 2010, 07:24 PM 2018 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: England 2 votes, Netherlands/Belgium 4 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 9 votes (as no absolute majority was reached, the candidate with least amount of votes, England, was eliminated)
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 13 votes (Russia obtained an absolute majority)
2022 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: Australia 1 vote, Japan 3 votes, Korea Republic 4 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 3 votes (Australia eliminated)
Round 2: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)
Round 3: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)
Round 4: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)
I hope these 11 scum bags are named, shamed and tirelessly investigated by the world media. This is the darkest day in world sport of our lifetimes.
dacrio December 2nd, 2010, 07:25 PM 2018 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: England 2 votes, Netherlands/Belgium 4 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 9 votes (as no absolute majority was reached, the candidate with least amount of votes, England, was eliminated)
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2 votes, Spain/Portugal 7 votes and Russia 13 votes (Russia obtained an absolute majority)
2022 FIFA World Cup™
Round 1: Australia 1 vote, Japan 3 votes, Korea Republic 4 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 3 votes (Australia eliminated)
Round 2: Japan 2 votes, Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 10 votes and USA 5 votes (Japan eliminated)
Round 3: Korea Republic 5 votes, Qatar 11 votes, USA 6 votes (Korea Republic eliminated)
Round 4: Qatar 14 votes and USA 8 votes (Qatar obtained an absolute majority)
good strategy eliminate england in first round, voting netherland and belgium!
Mr Trebus December 2nd, 2010, 07:25 PM Ignoring your other posts, that is actually quite funny!
after todays news it isnt funny..its a bloody certainty!:lol:
Kenni December 2nd, 2010, 07:26 PM Guys, take it easy. The size of a country shouldn't matter much if they have the ability to organize a top notch event. In any event.
-Corey- December 2nd, 2010, 07:27 PM Yeah, but we are talking about Qatar.... :S
Vote buying obviously did not go on here.
I feel bad for the US. Chicago 2016, now this! The only country I would have enjoyed losing to... but we both lose to Qatard
Yeah is a shame! I wouldn't be mad if if Australia would have gotten the 2022 World Cup but Qatar?!? Losing the world cup to Qatar is like a slap in the face!
KLoun December 2nd, 2010, 07:27 PM Qatar, congratulations!!!!!!!
bigchrisfgb December 2nd, 2010, 07:27 PM Lets leave FIFA, sorry Russia but we know why your bid won, it might have been less obviouse if Qatar didn't win 2022.
I hope our press are all over this, aswell as press form other bidding nations. This has got to bring FIFA crumbling to the ground, it's about time we left them. They will come to us as soon as they want us to play Brazil, Argentina, or even some small nation in the middle of nowhere (Qatar?).
The arguement that FIFA want to bring football to new countries does not hold up when better option were there that would have ticked that box.
coth December 2nd, 2010, 07:27 PM Average high in Qatar in July: 46°C. This will be the crappiest WC ever.
South-central Russia isn't really warmer than Qatar in July. Last summer in Russia was under Saharan anticyclone. And due to climatic specifics this could happen every summer.
Still everyone would be happy if WC 2018 will be held in late april-early may and WC 2022 will be held in march.
fifa2014bra December 2nd, 2010, 07:29 PM Today is a big day for soccer fans around the world. The upcoming locations for the FIFA World Cup are being deliberated, and we have gotten word that Russia will host the events in 2018. In 2022, Qatar will host the games, beating out the United States' bid.
This past summer, the World Cup was hosted in South Africa. In 2014, the World Cup will be in Brazil. The last time the World Cup was in the USA was in 1994 and according to FIFA's website, the US has never won the World Cup.
Like the Summer & Winter Olympics, the World Cup only occurs once every four years. It's a fairly big event that involves many countries in the world. People who don't generally watch soccer will tune in to the World Cup just to support their country and watch some really good competition.
Soccer isn't very popular here in the States, but it is popular in Europe and South America. Brazil, Uruguay, Italy, and Germany have all won the World Cup. In 2010, Spain was victorious in the competition.
Scandal prompts questions
Last month, two of the 24 members of the voting executive were suspended following accusations of bribery by the British Sunday Times newspaper. Further allegations of corruption were released by the British Panorama television programme days before the vote.
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin boycotted the presentation ceremonies in protest at the “unscrupulous” campaign that had been aimed at Fifa officials in recent weeks. But he is reportedly due to arrive in Zurich later on Thursday to congratulate his winning bid team.
Fifa has dismissed many of the media allegations, but the scandal has prompted Switzerland to review the way it monitors sporting bodies headquartered in the country.
Sports Minister Ueli Maurer is looking at ways of restructuring regulations and laws to stamp out corruption in sport. At present, non-profit sporting bodies based in Switzerland are not answerable to anti-corruption laws that govern commercial firms.
Some 50 international sporting associations are headquartered on Swiss soil. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) was the first to arrive and has been based in Lausanne since 1915.
http://fifa2014bra.blogspot.com/2010/12/soccer-world-cup-russia-in-2018-qatar.html
coth December 2nd, 2010, 07:30 PM Lets leave FIFA, sorry Russia but we know why your bid won, it might have been less obviouse if Qatar didn't win 2022.
I hope our press are all over this, aswell as press form other bidding nations. This has got to bring FIFA crumbling to the ground, it's about time we left them. They will come to us as soon as they want us to play Brazil, Argentina, or even some small nation in the middle of nowhere (Qatar?).
The arguement that FIFA want to bring football to new countries does not hold up when better option were there that would have ticked that box.
As long as Doha is in the middle of nowhere for you, it's same Newcastle is in the middle of nowhere for Asians or Eastern Europeans. Honestly i'm not sure myself what part of Britain Newcastle is.
n_pon88 December 2nd, 2010, 07:33 PM my dad (from thailand) insists that the thai delegate vote went to qatar because he is a thai/muslim, not sure myself but sounds very plausible
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grego66 December 2nd, 2010, 07:38 PM As long as Doha is in the middle of nowhere for you, it's same Newcastle is in the middle of nowhere for Asians or Eastern Europeans. Honestly i'm not sure myself what part of Britain Newcastle is.
Doha that's a city! bigchrisfgb was talking about Qatar that's a country.
Darnasus December 2nd, 2010, 07:41 PM Mexico?!
Third time?! It's unfair.
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 07:42 PM Guys, take it easy. The size of a country shouldn't matter much if they have the ability to organize a top notch event. In any event.
It depends. Imagine a World Cup in Singapore. It's possible.
irving1903 December 2nd, 2010, 07:45 PM Well on the bright side for Americans. 2026 is ours. :)
... at least it should be now.
SeñorGuillermo December 2nd, 2010, 07:46 PM Mexico?!
Third time?! It's unfair.
Why?
A nation whit more than 120 million and whit good infrastructure, specially good accommodation for tourist. Good airport communications world wide.
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM Why?
A nation whit more than 120 million and whit good infrastructure, specially good accommodation for tourist. Good airport communications world wide.
I say, let's give it to Japan every four years.
SeñorGuillermo December 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM Well on the bright side for Americans. 2026 is ours. :)
... at least it should be now.
Not if Mexico or Canada make a bid.
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM Not if Mexico or Canada make a bid.
You're American.
Bobby3 December 2nd, 2010, 07:49 PM That 2026 thing is one silver lining for us, the Aussies got hosed though. They can't bid because Qatar is in their federation.
Our bid could've been much better, honestly. We dropped the ball in a lot of areas and Qatar, despite the plethora of issues it presents, never lifted off the accelerator.
Would've preferred England for purely logistical reasons, but Russia is fine too. In fact, all of 2018's bids were fine. Luxembourg should've considered a solo bid though, I mean, look who else won.
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:49 PM Why?
A nation whit more than 120 million and whit good infrastructure, specially good accommodation for tourist. Good airport communications world wide.
Why?
How about because Mexico has already hosted the World Cup twice while many countries have never hosted and a number of others have only hosted once.
Seems like a pretty good reason not to have a third World Cup in Mexico quite yet!
timmy- brissy December 2nd, 2010, 07:49 PM As long as Doha is in the middle of nowhere for you, it's same Newcastle is in the middle of nowhere for Asians or Eastern Europeans. Honestly i'm not sure myself what part of Britain Newcastle is.
And that means what? Hey! Newcastle is better positioned then Doha because it's near Europe. Doha will be in the middle of the day in Europe and most of us will be in work, actually wait it won't even happen because there will probably be a new a football federation by then because Fifa has become a joke.
bigchrisfgb December 2nd, 2010, 07:49 PM As long as Doha is in the middle of nowhere for you, it's same Newcastle is in the middle of nowhere for Asians or Eastern Europeans. Honestly i'm not sure myself what part of Britain Newcastle is.You kind of prove my point there since Qatar is roughly the same size as Newcastle. Newcastle would have been a host city if England won the 2018 bid, but it would only have and been able to have had one host stadium, unlike Qatar who for the same population size and not much of a greater land size bigger then the Greater Newcastle area would be hosting the whole Worl Cup.
By the way, it's in the North East of England, about 115 miles south of Edinburgh which is in Scotland.
coth December 2nd, 2010, 07:50 PM Not much we can do until those clowns at Fifa are gone. Generations of people in England will never get to see a world cup on home soil now, for what? Loving the game too much? Fifa needs to get it's priorities right, I'm all for developing the game in area's where it has yet to take off, but don't punish those that already have an existing passion and fanbase amongst it's country.
Does it mean every 3rd or 4th WC in Europe should be held in Britain? That wouldn't be really World Cup, but British International Cup.
Europe has a good two dozen of countries that can host the World Cup. You already hosted it in 1966. Now it's time for other countries. You wait until 2100's. France should wait as well, Germany should wait. And Russia will wait 1,5-2 centuries for a next World Cup as well.
SeñorGuillermo December 2nd, 2010, 07:52 PM You're American.
American is any one from Canada to Argentina.
I'm northern american.
(Yes, Mexico is part of North America.)
mdhar.v12 December 2nd, 2010, 07:52 PM In Qatar ,one would be watching football game along with Osam bin laden,Ayman al-Zawahiri, and other top Al-Qaeda members.........fuck FIFA
Bobby3 December 2nd, 2010, 07:53 PM Not if Mexico or Canada make a bid.
Canada, maybe. But even most Canadians say that's a stretch. They aren't willing to publicly fund a ton of new venues and many of them are in dire need of an upgrade if they're to host.
Mexico? Are you serious? Say that to a real Mexican, not an American who wishes he was a Mexican and he'll slap you. Mexico has bigger fish to fry, like a freaking drug cartel that wants to topple the government. And you think they should spend money on sports?!
Chimaera December 2nd, 2010, 07:54 PM Lets leave FIFA, sorry Russia but we know why your bid won, it might have been less obviouse if Qatar didn't win 2022.
I hope our press are all over this, aswell as press form other bidding nations. This has got to bring FIFA crumbling to the ground, it's about time we left them. They will come to us as soon as they want us to play Brazil, Argentina, or even some small nation in the middle of nowhere (Qatar?).
The arguement that FIFA want to bring football to new countries does not hold up when better option were there that would have ticked that box.2022 should have gone to Australia from that point of view. I wouldn't have disagreed with that.
bigchrisfgb December 2nd, 2010, 07:54 PM Does it mean every 3rd or 4th WC in Europe should be held in Britain? That wouldn't be really World Cup, but British International Cup.
Europe has a good two dozen of countries that can host the World Cup. You already hosted it in 1966. Now it's time for other countries. You wait until 2100's. France should wait as well, Germany should way. And Russia will wait 1,5-2 centuries for a next World Cup as well.So, Mexico has already hosted it twice, it will be 5 centuries since England hosted it by the time 2018 comes around, the same time frame you say Russia should wait untill bidding again.
We never asked for it to be held here every 3/4 World Cups, just to be held here in 2018.
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:55 PM Does it mean every 3rd or 4th WC in Europe should be held in Britain? That wouldn't be really World Cup, but British International Cup.
Europe has a good two dozen of countries that can host the World Cup. You already hosted it in 1966. Now it's time for other countries. You wait until 2100's. France should wait as well, Germany should way. And Russia will wait 1,5-2 centuries for a next World Cup as well.
Nonsense. There are nothing like 24 European countries that could host the World Cup.
Of course, FIFA set a dangerous precedent by voting for Qatar. But that doesn't mean that every small nation will be able to host the World Cup. Qatar is abnormally wealthy because of oil. They can afford to build a plethora of stadiums that they don't need. No European country can.
Aka December 2nd, 2010, 07:56 PM American is any one from Canada to Argentina.
I'm northern american.
(Yes, Mexico is part of North America.)
Am-er-ican adj of N or S America, esp the USA.
Am-er-ican n 1 native of America. 2 citizen of the USA. 3 (also American English) the English language as spoken in the USA.
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 07:57 PM So, Mexico has already hosted it twice, it will be 5 centuries since England hosted it by the time 2018 comes around, the same time frame you say Russia should wait untill bidding again.
We never asked for it to be held here every 3/4 World Cups, just to be held here in 2018.
Wow! Has it really been that long? ;)
TheoG December 2nd, 2010, 07:58 PM I thoroughly hope that the English, Australians, Americans, Dutch, Belgian, Japanese, Koreans, heck, even the Russians, try to get to the root of the problem. I don't want the English FA, or any other FA for that matter, to have any association with FIFA anymore, absolutely ridiculous.
grego66 December 2nd, 2010, 07:58 PM Does it mean every 3rd or 4th WC in Europe should be held in Britain? That wouldn't be really World Cup, but British International Cup.
Europe has a good two dozen of countries that can host the World Cup. You already hosted it in 1966. Now it's time for other countries. You wait until 2100's. France should wait as well, Germany should wait. And Russia will wait 1,5-2 centuries for a next World Cup as well.
Russia is rife with racism, spectator violence is far worse there than in England and the country is virtually ran by gangsters. Why should the World Cup go there? Because it hasn't hosted it before is not a good enough reason.
SeñorGuillermo December 2nd, 2010, 07:59 PM Why?
How about because Mexico has already hosted the World Cup twice while many countries have never hosted and a number of others have only hosted once.
Seems like a pretty good reason not to have a third World Cup in Mexico quite yet!
Mexico is not the only country who has hosted the WC twice bidding.
Besides FIFA didn't mind.
RobH December 2nd, 2010, 07:59 PM I thoroughly hope that the English, Australians, Americans, Dutch, Belgian, Japanese, Koreans, heck, even the Russians, try to get to the root of the problem. I don't want the English FA, or any other FA for that matter, to have any association with FIFA anymore, absolutely ridiculous.
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coth December 2nd, 2010, 07:59 PM And that means what? Hey! Newcastle is better positioned then Doha because it's near Europe. Doha will be in the middle of the day in Europe and most of us will be in work, actually wait it won't even happen because there will probably be a new a football federation by then because Fifa has become a joke.
Doha located in the Moscow time zone in winter and in MSD-1 in summer. And there is a direct fly Moscow - Doha. It takes 5 hours to get on plane to Doha from Moscow and 7 hours with 1 change in London from Moscow to Newcastle.
Also it's nearly impossible for Russian to visit Newcastle due to very strict British visa. Even US visa is a lot easier to obtain.
bigchrisfgb December 2nd, 2010, 08:00 PM Wow! Has it really been that long? ;)I meant decades, and I'm sure the guy who was posting meant decades aswell because quite honestly, noone can say we should wait 500 years to bid for another World Cup.
irving1903 December 2nd, 2010, 08:01 PM Not if Mexico or Canada make a bid.
true. but lets be honest. Mexico has a bad rep going right now. As for Canada, eh. Joint US/Canada bid lol
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bigchrisfgb December 2nd, 2010, 08:02 PM Doha located in the Moscow time zone in winter and in MSD-1 in summer. And there is a direct fly Moscow - Doha. It takes 5 hours to get on plane to Doha from Moscow and 7 hours with 1 change in London from Moscow to Newcastle.
Also it's nearly impossible for Russian to visit Newcastle due to very strict British visa. Even US visa is a lot easier to obtain.England have already said they will relax Tax and Visa laws for the World Cup, so there is no arguement there.
Also lets put the boot on another foot, that will mean it take someone from Newcastle going to a World Cup in Russia 7 hours with 1 change over in London.
JimB December 2nd, 2010, 08:04 PM Mexico is not the only country who has hosted the WC twice bidding.
Besides FIFA didn't mind.
Yes, I realise that other countries (Italy, France, Germany and, in 2014, Brazil) have also already hosted the World Cup twice.
But the point is that no one is suggesting that any of them should host for a third time any time soon.
Better to give other countries a chance first.
vartal December 2nd, 2010, 08:04 PM RUSSIA!!! YEEEESSSS!!!:banana::banana::banana:
London_Canary December 2nd, 2010, 08:08 PM Does it mean every 3rd or 4th WC in Europe should be held in Britain? That wouldn't be really World Cup, but British International Cup.
Europe has a good two dozen of countries that can host the World Cup. You already hosted it in 1966. Now it's time for other countries. You wait until 2100's. France should wait as well, Germany should wait. And Russia will wait 1,5-2 centuries for a next World Cup as well.
Who said anything about Britain hosting every 3rd or 4th World Cup? What on earth are you on about?
The fact that we hosted it in 1966 shouldn't count against us, not many people around today in England who can claim they experienced a world cup on home soil. By 2030 it will be 64 years and even then I doubt we will get it unless Fifa sorts itself out. It's obvious the reason why we lost out is because Fifa determines England as an already developed football nation with an ever growing passion for football. This should work in our favour and not count against us.
SeñorGuillermo December 2nd, 2010, 08:08 PM Canada, maybe. But even most Canadians say that's a stretch. They aren't willing to publicly fund a ton of new venues and many of them are in dire need of an upgrade if they're to host.
Mexico? Are you serious? Say that to a real Mexican, not an American who wishes he was a Mexican and he'll slap you. Mexico has bigger fish to fry, like a freaking drug cartel that wants to topple the government. And you think they should spend money on sports?!
Lol. Your funny.
Did you forget Mexico is one of the few countries in the trillion dollar class economy?
The drug cartels are only in Northern Mexico.
And yes Mexico does have the venue to construct new stadiums, and not only that, they are under construction, and some have been inaugurated like the Chivas Stadium.
*We are hosting the 2011 Panamerican Olympics.
true. but lets be honest. Mexico has a bad rep going right now. As for Canada, eh. Joint US/Canada bid lol
Yes, that's true.
But only some states are affected at the moment.
Besides it's a long way to go for 2026.
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