Jordan's king warns three civil wars loom in Mideast
Sun 26 Nov 2006 16:48:16 GMT
By Susan Cornwell

WASHINGTON, Nov 26 (Reuters) - The Middle East is on the verge of three civil wars -- in Iraq, Israel and Lebanon -- unless strong action is taken urgently by the international community, Jordan's King Abdullah warned on Sunday.

With U.S. President George W. Bush heading to Amman this week to talk with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Abdullah said "something dramatic" must come from that meeting to stop violence spinning out of control in Iraq.

"I don't think we're in a position where we can come back and revisit the problem in early 2007," he said on ABC's "This Week."

But the United States must also look at the "big picture" and seek comprehensive Middle Eastern solutions involving all regional players, he said -- indicating this should include Syria and Iran.

"We're juggling with the strong potential of three civil wars in the region, whether it's the Palestinians, that of Lebanon or of Iraq," the Jordanian king said.

"We could possibly imagine going into 2007 and having three civil wars on our hands. And therefore, it is time that we really take a strong step forward as part of the international community and make sure we avert the Middle East from a tremendous crisis that I fear, and I see could possibly happen in 2007," Abdullah said.

With Iraq near all-out civil war, the Bush administration is renewing efforts to break the cycle of violence there by enlisting the help of moderate Arab nations.

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney has just returned from a visit to Saudi Arabia and talks on the Middle East, and Bush and Maliki are to meet in Amman Wednesday and Thursday for what is shaping up to be a crisis summit.

Abdullah hoped Maliki would have ideas for Bush on how to be "inclusive" in bringing together different groups in Iraq.

"And they need to do it now, because, obviously, as we're seeing, things are beginning to spiral out of control ... there needs to be some very strong action taken on the ground there today," he said.

Bush has so far avoided the hands-on approach to Middle East peacemaking of his predecessors, but that may change as he turns to advice from former Secretary of State James Baker who is leading a review on Iraq policy.

LEBANON, PALESTINE

Abdullah was also worried about Lebanon, where the recent killing of an anti-Syrian politician has revived fears that factional violence could spiral again. But he said the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remained the "emotional core issue" of the Middle East. Jordan hosts the largest number of Palestinians outside the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The king warned that if a regional peace process did not develop in the next couple of months, "there won't be anything to talk about" and the Middle East would face another decade or two of violence.

Asked if Syria and Iran should be included in an international conference on the Middle East, he said: "the problem is, that America needs to look at it in the total picture. It's not just one issue by itself."

"I keep saying Palestine is the core. It is linked to the extent of what's going on in Iraq. It is linked to what's going on in Lebanon. It is linked to the issues that we find ourselves with the Syrians. So, if you want to do comprehensive -- comprehensive means bringing all the parties of the region together."

Separately, a senior Republican senator wrote that it was too late to send more U.S. troops to Iraq. Nebraskan Chuck Hagel said that "we do not have more troops to send, and even if we did, they would not bring a resolution to Iraq."

The United States must begin planning for a phased troop withdrawal, Hagel, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, wrote in the Washington Post. "We are destroying our force structure, which took 30 years to build" he said.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=N26342640&WTmodLoc=World-R5-Alertnet-3

hey abdallah, heard of mind your own (palestinian) business?

I say jordan is the core. If jordan is made to be palestinian, we can have peace. focus on jordan.

Yes lets look at the total picture: syria, jordan have small minorities rulling over groups excluded from power.
to keep their rule and divert local unrest, they have to constanty mess in affairs of other countries and focus attention on others.

the core emotional issue is no democracy in the region, and when there is, those fanatics that want to use it to destroy it get elected.

Jordan's King Abdullah :) that's .. if he left the talking and ignore some countries he will do a good job for the arabs..

Jordan hosts the largest number of Palestinians outside the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

That's the problem.. they have to go back to their homes i mean palastine .. but i think not today or tomorrow .. but as what all muslims know ,,that day will come so that i feel comfortable..

The king warned that if a regional peace process did not develop in the next couple of months, "there won't be anything to talk about" and the Middle East would face another decade or two of violence.

:ohno: i am afraid of that.. plz stay away from UAE ..

Asked if Syria and Iran should be included in an international conference on the Middle East, he said: "the problem is, that America needs to look at it in the total picture. It's not just one issue by itself."

America needs to look at everything From the Zero.. That's a great sentence..

i am still angry from the Veto :(

i just wanna one thing ..

what about sending troops from all arab countries to Gaza and west bank and to lebanon of course .. :)


good article..

what about sending troops from all arab countries to Gaza and west bank and to lebanon of course .. :)


they wont, because arab regimes are so full of their own crap to care ... im seriously sick and tired of them saying they're behind the palestinians when they all stand by and watch them die.

DEATH TO PAN-ARABISM.. they need to quit feeding us that bull$hit they call brotherhood and come out as the nationalists money whores they are (not that there's anything wrong with that, nationalists can still be humanitarians, but lets stop lying to ourselves)

as for lebanon, please dont send anymore troops ... lebanon has been a proxy for long enough, lets leave him alone ... thats it, lets adopt a policy of leaving lebanon ALONE!!!!

Pan-Arabism is the weakest most pathetic nationalistic movement ever witnessed by man!, after getting humiliated numerous times by foreign powers I think its about time the Arabs realize that Arab Nationalism is the highest form of Jahilliya that has ever existed :lol:

Seems like only Islam works for Arabs, To my coptic/orthodox/protestant Christian Arabs that works too ;)

how about hashemites going back home?

jordan was palestinian before it became hashemite you know...
I think palestinians are hosting hashemites, not the other way round.

thats the only key to peace. if he thinks about himself a host
we can remind him his tribe moved to jordan for the first time in history in the 20th century.. so HELLO..!?

so I agree, we should look at it from zero..

Pan-Arabism is the weakest most pathetic nationalistic movement ever witnessed by man!, after getting humiliated numerous times by foreign powers I think its about time the Arabs realize that Arab Nationalism is the highest form of Jahilliya that has ever existed :lol:
Seems like only Islam works for Arabs, To my coptic/orthodox/protestant Christian Arabs that works too ;)

stupid comment :sleepy:


how about hashemites going back home?

jordan was palestinian before it became hashemite you know...
I think palestinians are hosting hashemites, not the other way round.

thats the only key to peace. if he thinks about himself a host
we can remind him his tribe moved to jordan for the first time in history in the 20th century.. so HELLO..!?

so I agree, we should look at it from zero..

HeLLo!!

^_* oh really!! it was!! r u sure!! Did u study at school!! ..

It wasn't .. now take it as a new info..

Oh i forgot i am hungry so i prefer u to go and make some Shawarma instead of talking about the history .. maybe u r good at that.. who knows :sleepy:

how about hashemites going back home?

jordan was palestinian before it became hashemite you know...
I think palestinians are hosting hashemites, not the other way round.

thats the only key to peace. if he thinks about himself a host
we can remind him his tribe moved to jordan for the first time in history in the 20th century.. so HELLO..!?

so I agree, we should look at it from zero..

And Israel was Palestinian too.

it is pathetic how some israelis are so quick to show how jordan is palestinian, just to get rid of their own guilt...

Pan-Arabism is the weakest most pathetic nationalistic movement ever witnessed by man!, after getting humiliated numerous times by foreign powers I think its about time the Arabs realize that Arab Nationalism is the highest form of Jahilliya that has ever existed :lol:

Seems like only Islam works for Arabs, To my coptic/orthodox/protestant Christian Arabs that works too ;)

il 3arab jarab! :P

j/k

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I think lets just have our own nationalist movements. I care for Kuwait and Kuwait only. screw the rest :D









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Anyways back to being serious,

I think King Abdullah has a point about civil wars. Guess what, it already started. Not trying to ruin his day or anything, but it started many months ago. So now hes warning us... :|

And also, Arab countries have got to care about their well-being and end corruption.

On one hand, I hate America sniffing around our nations. On the other hand, a bit of sniffing removes some corruption too. Just the negative aspect is that it might make another form of corruption. Really complicated. My hands hurt so Ill explain later :P

meh... :S the USA should start talking to Iran and Syria... I think that's the best sollution at this moment...

Yeah, I think they should too...

The tough talk isn't working.

it is pathetic how some israelis are so quick to show how jordan is palestinian, just to get rid of their own guilt...

guilt about what? about arab countries that deported 2 mullion jews and destroyed all evidence of jewish life in them?

oh yeah ok, like I should be guilty that arabs stole our lands while we were exiled in their countries... then kicked us out.. and now say that our land is theirs.. and now we should feel guilty.. ha, you got nerve..

:ohno:

Pan-Arabism is the weakest most pathetic nationalistic movement ever witnessed by man!, after getting humiliated numerous times by foreign powers I think its about time the Arabs realize that Arab Nationalism is the highest form of Jahilliya that has ever existed :lol:

Seems like only Islam works for Arabs, To my coptic/orthodox/protestant Christian Arabs that works too ;)

I think you did a very stupid comment there because you hate arabs to the bone maybe you where mistreated as a slave thats why...there is some who are even worst and who are you to speak? Pakistan has a nuke and the pakistani army is being raped by a couple of pashtuni and baluchi tribes, is there any country that fears pakistan with it's nuke?

I'm not against islam but you better shut up because we have corrupt regimes and I believe you also have a corrupt regime.

Leaders from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, bahrain, and UAE should just shut their mouths and keep their ten wives happy. when was the last time they actually did something about the middle east, other than giving the green light for u.s. and others to attack countries in the region. They could care less about the palastinians or others in the region, as long as they are in the power, they will sell their soul to do that. I am almost certain that when it comes to it, they will help u.s. and others to attack iran.

it is pathetic how some israelis are so quick to show how jordan is palestinian, just to get rid of their own guilt...
Israel never kicked out the Palestinians to begin with, they left on their own free-will.

Nainawaaz :applause: :applause: :applause:


Israel never kicked out the Palestinians to begin with, they left on their own free-will.

lol ur kiddin right? :sly:

Leaders from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, bahrain, and UAE should just shut their mouths and keep their ten wives happy. when was the last time they actually did something about the middle east, other than giving the green light for u.s. and others to attack countries in the region. They could care less about the palastinians or others in the region, as long as they are in the power, they will sell their soul to do that. I am almost certain that when it comes to it, they will help u.s. and others to attack iran.


so stereotypical when you say "keep their ten wives happy".

well in any case, i agree that some countries should not bother in foreign policies and should only care about maintaining their own.

so youre saying they should care about palestinians, but then again youre also saying they shouldnt care about iran's current situation. sounds contradictory.

i have another solution: care for themselves only, and for their own domestic interests.

lol ur kiddin right? :sly:

that is the propaganda zionism is trying to propagate :)

I think you did a very stupid comment there because you hate arabs to the bone maybe you where mistreated as a slave thats why...there is some who are even worst and who are you to speak? Pakistan has a nuke and the pakistani army is being raped by a couple of pashtuni and baluchi tribes, is there any country that fears pakistan with it's nuke?

I'm not against islam but you better shut up because we have corrupt regimes and I believe you also have a corrupt regime.

LMAO ROFL :lol:

Yah I was treated as a Slave after having been raised in Canada :lol:, get it through your head whenever I've gone to Saudi the customs have pampered My ass because of my Canadian citizenship and my connection to Saudi is for religious purposes like Ummra and I also have cousins that are SAUDI citizens!! :lol: The day i'm treated bad in Saudi is the day hell freezes over. You think I hate Arabs? Did you know my baby cousins in Saudi dont even know how to speak any other language but Arabic? You didn't know that did you?

Arab nationalistic nuts such as the Baathist, governments in Syria, Iraq have killed more people that are Muslim than Israelis that are hated so much.

Arab nationalism also brought down the Khalafat of the Ottoman Turks, and now there is nobody to protect the Middle East.

Hey its not my fault if Israel and US have the ability to bomb each and every Arab nationalistic state that exists back to stone age, and if your too blind to realize that the Arabs have only been useful under a Khalafat system then that's not my fault.

:nuts:

I crack up whenever I see Arab nationalistic leaders getting the right sort of treatement from the Israeli's, If Arab Nationalism isn't Jahilliya than tell me why is it that a massive stretch of Arab land is unable to defend itself?

^^ You don't have to be Baathist to be Arab Nationalist. Anyway, nothing wrong with nationalism as long as it is not against others

Arab Nationalism has also treated Kurds like sheat even though they are brothers in the same faith,

Funny how one of the most popular figures to fight the crusades was a Kurd himself, I wonder what Salahdin would have to say if he saw Arab nationalism today ;)

I agree with UoFt

Arab nationalism is crap and very racist.

In Kuwait, not all Kuwaitis are Arabs. Some are persians from Iran (ajmis), others are from India (ajmis), others have some American and English blood in their family (ajmis), some are originally from turkmenistan or africa (ajmis).

So in Kuwait, all those ajmi Kuwaitis were mistreated (well historically, not today). Today things are getting better.

You know why things are getting better? Because Kuwait lost hope of Pan-Arab ideologies after it was invaded by its "Arab" neighbour, Iraq.

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I dont mind seeing an Arab wanting to preserve the Arab race. I dont mind seeing an Arab wanting to marry Arab women because he prefers Arabs. I actually like seeing this. It proves that a person cares about his racial identity and isnt a cheap sell out (although Im not stating that interracial couples are sell outs - please understand).

As long as you dont hate other races, its fine with me if you want to be an arab nationalist. As long as you dont want other races eradicated from the face of the earth, I dont mind seeing an arab nationalist. And as long as an arab would accept a friend for who he is rather than his race, then i dont mind seeing him as an arab nationalist.

peace!

What arab race? there is no arab race. And yes, I also agree, pan-arabism and all that crap is bullshit.

map of "palestine" for all those who are in the jahilliya era

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3929/palmandatesremo1922jd7.gif

before the Hashemites brought in and were given a"kingdom" by the British with no ethnical/historical background, rulling over local nativs such us palestinian ,beduins and nomads, who never imagine they have somthing in common.

before the west part gaind independence by the efforts and struggle of its local people , the only true nation in the middle east based uppon ethnical and historical background.

What arab race? there is no arab race. And yes, I also agree, pan-arabism and all that crap is bullshit.

Well arab ethnic group. I can be more elaborate, but Id rather just say race.

And please note that arabs are a big ethnic group with sub-divisions. like persian gulf arabs, najdis, hijazis, berber-arabs, etc etc.

So technically its like a race.

^^ You don't have to be Baathist to be Arab Nationalist. Anyway, nothing wrong with nationalism as long as it is not against others

I see Arabs using the exact reverse of this argument to drum up support for "muslim" Palestine and yet you ask us why? :lol:

This talk is going nowhere.

I find such statements to be useless, utterly useless.

Warnings...wow.

Nainawaaz :applause: :applause: :applause:




lol ur kiddin right? :sly:

If I was kidding, then I would die in a terrorist attack the next day.