South side
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPFacadesud-1.jpg

East West view of inside the tower.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPCoupeestouest-1.jpg

Overall plan (scroll >>>>)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPPlandemasse-1.jpg

Ground level
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPRdRBas-1.jpg

Railways (voies ferrees) level
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPRdRHaut-1.jpg

Concrete slab (R+00)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPR00-1.jpg

Was the height reduced? Reminds me of the rather unnecessary reduction of the Bishopsgate Tower. I don't get why people insist in lopping meters off here and there.

Second floor after the concrete slab (R+01)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPR01-1.jpg

Main lobby, tenth floor after the concrete slab (R+09)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPR09-1.jpg

Panoramic restaurant, 67th floor after the concrete slab (R+66)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPrestaurant-1.jpg

Roof plan
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPPlandeToiture-1.jpg

I think, the most ugliest building (supertall) ever for beautiful Paris....brrrrr....

It's very complex and I don't want to be the guys who'll built the base. I say built it, whenever we like or no, it'll be unique, one in the world.

It's wonderful.
Hope they'll build this tower...

The tower is very complex, the building permit also.
Tons of documents.
If we (Brisavoine, Metropolitan and me) really wanted to read all of them, we could stay several day inside Puteaux town hall.

It is a brand new way of designing, creating a tower. Some people have named it a "non-tower". Indeed it is really different from what we have seen in highrise architecture so far. A kind of new step in the process of building tall. Definitely my #1 expected architectural achievement in Paris.

Yeah, the project has become much more interesting since the first renders.

Unfortunely this tower is slighly under 300m.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/occupationniv1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/TPoccupationniv2.jpg

http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/1008/6b/8f230f11ccef.jpg

the renders looks like a beer stomach, for Paris I would choose another more traditional and elegance supertall.

the renders looks like a beer stomach, for Paris I would choose another more traditional and elegance supertall.The building has to be imagined in 3D to really perceive how it would look like for real.

I understand your image of a fat belly when looking on 2D diagrams, but it's a lot less obvious in 3D, because the bump would actually be on the edge, not central. I guess the skin of the building will look a lot more like a long woman skirt, with the right leg being covered and the left leg being uncovered from the knee.

You can see this well on the 3D model I've created for Google Earth. It's easy to download and I guess you'll see what I mean:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=40a43791ab36f879bae1ce14e998bf00

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=40a43791ab36f879bae1ce14e998bf00&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1282696851000 (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=40a43791ab36f879bae1ce14e998bf00)

Was the height reduced?
No. The top of the tower is 349 meters above sea-level, and the maximum height currently allowed at La Défense is 350 meters above sea-level due to aviation constraints. They have actually used the maximum height they were allowed to use, except for 1 meter.

The building has to be imagined in 3D to really perceive how it would look like for real.
Exactly. The shape of the tower will be constantly changing as you'll walk around it, or look at it from different places in Greater Paris.

But to me the most spectacular thing will be its base. People just don't realize yet how enormous the proportions of the base are going to be, especially the huge holes and archways. It will make people feel very small when walking in those archways under the tower.

I personally admire this building for the design. The French is doing a great!

the renders looks like a beer stomach, for Paris I would choose another more traditional and elegance supertall.

Wait for the building to be constructed before hating it dude...you might change your mind, or not...:)

Phare might not be the most gorgeous skyscraper in the world but it will be one of a kind, that's for sure. Not only Phare has been delayed owing to the recession, it has also been a real headache for engineers given the extreme technical complexity (particularly regarding its base). Phare will not be like any other tower worldwide, it will launch a brand new type of building in many ways.

Let's be sure of something, with such an unusual & controversial shape, they can't (& I feel like saying they WON'T) afford to mess up the clad.

Furthermore if they stick to the original light scheme, Phare will enchant La Défense at night...
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Is it me or they've shortened Phare's hair a bit...? I hope no, I loved it the way it was...

Congratulations Brisavoine, Minato Ku & Metropolitan IV(lol) on doing such a great job! We're all very grateful to you guys, thanks a lot.

Is it me or they've shortened Phare's hair a bit...? I hope no, I loved it the way it was...
I prefer short hair, on a guy as on a tower. :D

^^I partially agree, yes for a guy, no for a tower...lol

Just a reminder of what we can expect (renderings date from feb 2010):

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/6.5b-Vue_17_Nuit-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/6.8-Vue_07_visuel07-512.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/6.7-Vue_16_Berkeley-512.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/6.11-Vue_09_Visuel_09-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/1.6.6a-Vue_14_Panorama_Courbevoie-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/6.6b-Vue_02_visuel02-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/2.6.4-Vue_05_visuel0-l.jpg

Light simulation: http://www.morphopedia.com/files/phare-tower-light-simulation (http://www.morphopedia.com/files/phare-tower-light-simulation)

:cheers1:

ps: merci Galik d'avoir reposté le lien...

http://morphopedia.com/projects/phare-tower/gallery/images/1/

I have to say, I don't particularly like this design - La Defence could do a lot better..

I prefer short hair, on a guy as on a tower. :D

i agree i dont like the style. unique, but not really nice

I love it! In reality, I think it will turn out to be one of the most unique buildings in the world. :banana:

Its one of those designs that has some good angles and some bad angles.........in this case i think the good angles overrule the bad ones though lol

It's an awful design. I just don't like to think that a building could be pregnant.

looks like this

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00QCeaOiKrAuoA/Mori-Lee-Bridal-Gown-Wedding-Dress-8805-.jpg

Minus a person in it

^^You guys smoke too many "laughing cigarettes"...:lol:
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Here are some very nice pictures taken today in Dubaï by a moderator from the UAE section, 234sale:

http://i56.tinypic.com/30ax21i.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2ps59ux.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/vde3wn.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mr74ut.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/f2vwgi.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2l97ev4.jpg

Many thanks to 234sale once again!:)

^^looking good to me

http://www.defense-92.com/lesnewsdeladefense.html

http://courbevoie.typepad.fr/.a/6a00e55230e79988340133f4f860ab970b-800wi

Old video (2007)
AsVEsyIxcNs&NR=1

It has some funny angles, but it's pretty and incredebly interesting... I think 21th century architecture deserves this building.

looks nice!:okay:

Pictures taken on 20 november 2010 by xpressbus in New York:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5201708128_2786c559ab_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5004/5201707582_e749878f0a_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5201707226_4e9a10f17e_b.jpg

I just LOVE it :okay:

This isn't a tower, this is a sculpture. This is one of the best projects, can't wait till this one goes u/c.

Interesting interview of Thom Mayne (Phare's father) dating from April 2009:

video/x8ziym_architecture-durable-morphosis-thom_creation#from=embed

A lot of thing are in my mind.

Firstly, What's going on ???

I'm french and I'm living (back) in Paris (Bastille juste behind the Bastille's Opera)

And I Love this tower, It's the real first step toward the revolution,

I mean the biggest problem in Paris it's the Parisian soul.

I mean Paris is handicapped by one thing:

The reactionary soul of the major piece of the people....

Nobody wants skyscrapers ... why ? Because the Parisian are so stupide and I'm really fed up with this.

It's everytime the battle against in the first time the people that's trying to resolve our problems like the lack of flat in Paris according to the demande and on the other side we have so Parisian who decide to argue because there are never happy so ok there are good reason to argue in Paris but we can't build by increase the edge of Paris ...
or take the green place.

So we need to build in height ...
The parisian people keep their middle ages soul !

And for the phare tower ... Do you have something in your eyes ????

That it's groundbreaking !

What ? Are you becoming to think as the OLD Parisian ?

Because you don't live here and here we have a problems and we need this to resolve them ! Not only because the lack of flat and office block but in other way "La Défence" needs it for its image . All seems to say : yes la défence it's the biggest wall street in the EU But you wrong ... it was, now I'm serious it's the city in London that steal our business office .

We need that to improve and to give a new young image in the defence and to become again a attractive place !

The best Business place is a place where there are innovation, and boldness.



Then, concerning the old video with the girl ... was is this ? lol And the song I mean it's a student repport ? Or something like that no ????

what else ,....,

Yes stop to believe Paris need and have to stay in this old building ... Remember what said the philosophers concerning the Haussmann's Building and Archi ? That was shit and waste ( for the money of France) anyway and now ??? The Haussmann's building are the
symbol of Paris (ith the Eiffel tower of course (; )

So if we heard you (and how has said a man in the old interview) we need to keep the old way with the rigid shape ... like right-angled so ... excuse me

but we ll really improve like this, in this way !


.

Sorry for my english but I don't have time to read me again, I'm in late.

But I'm looking foward yours argues ;) because I don't talk a lot But I begin to know how you react here . lol

sorry I would said,

it's not like that we ll really improve !

and I ve forgot to say ...

Amazing scale model!

I love it that show something great !

(I really think "la défence" need advertising and this is a big part of the answer !!!

10.12.2010, 17h52

La foncière française Unibail-Rodamco a annoncé vendredi à l'AFP qu'elle avait obtenu l'autorisation de l'"Etablissement public d'aménagement de la Défense Seine-Arche" (Epadesa) de lancer la tour Phare (300 m, 69 niveaux de bureaux), qui sera en 2016 la plus haute tour de bureaux en France.
"Unibail-Rodamco et l'Epadesa ont arrêté vendredi les grands principes d'un accord technique et financier visant à concrétiser le projet de la tour Phare à Défense", a déclare Guillaume Poitrinal, PDG d'Unibail-Rodamco, un groupe membre du CAC 40.
L'investissement de 900 millions d'euros sera supporté "a priori en fonds propres" par Unibail-Rodamco (23 milliards d'euros d'actifs, 14 milliards de capitalisation boursière), a ajouté M. Poitrinal.
"Cette décision prouve la confiance du groupe dans l'avenir de la Défense et notre volonté de convaincre les entreprises de l'avantage du lieu à cause de l'avantage la connexion avec les transports, malgré une demande qui est actuellement modeste", souligne le PDG du groupe.
Au sommet de l'édifice, oeuvre de l'architecte américain Thom Maynes, devrait être édifié un restaurant gastronomique qui, selon les voeux de M. Poitrinal, "devrait être l'établissement étoilé le plus haut du monde".

On friday, Unibail-Rodamco publicly informed the AFP (Agence France Presse) that they had been given permission by the EPADESA (Etablissement Public d'Aménagement de la Défense Seine-Arche) to launch the PHARE Tower (300 m, 69 office floors) which in 2016 will be the tallest office tower in France.
'Today, Unibail-Rodamco & the Epadesa decided on the main line of a technical & financial agreement aiming to make the PHARE TOWER project a reality at La Défense', Guillaume Poitrinal, Unibail-Rodamco's CEO said (company being part of the CAC 40)[...]


:dance:
:banana: :cucumber: :pepper:

http://www.leparisien.fr/flash-actualite-economie/unibail-rodamco-va-construire-la-plus-haute-tour-de-bureaux-en-france-10-12-2010-1185982.php

EDIT: well said ajaaronjoe, I do agree! :)

All the European cities have their own characters, designs, architectures and personalities, they are all beautiful in their own ways, that is what i like about Europe :cheers:

Ewww, it looks hairy. :ohno:

Ewww, it looks hairy. :ohno:
No, that is architecture, this is hairy:

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8941/307692048e40f91d4c0o.jpg

Wow!!!

This is - unique!

iconic design that redefines the face of paris: artistic and technological :cheers2:

No, that is architecture, this is hairy:

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8941/307692048e40f91d4c0o.jpg

is it just me, or would that make a great topper for a building? lol

It's just you I think. ;)

is it just me, or would that make a great topper for a building? lol

building with a wig :? hideous

^^
It looks like a giant mushroom :puke: No thanks!

13/12/10

Unibail-Rodamco reaches agreement to develop France's highest office tower

http://www.immo-news.net/photo/art/default/2544342-3586876.jpg?v=1292216837

On December 10, 2010, the Board of Directors of EPADESA approved the technical and financial terms
of the agreement towards the finalisation of the project with investor Unibail-Rodamco for the construction of the Phare office tower in La Défense.

The agreement will be formalised in the first quarter of 2011 in the form of a promise to sell the rights
to construct a 69 floor tower with a Gross Lettable Area of 125 000m2 as of 2012.

In 2006 Unibail-Rodamco entrusted Project Phare to the American architecht Thom Mayne for the
realisation of an iconic 300 meter high tower, an architectural symbol of the renewal of the La Défense
business.

In the heart of the La Défense business district between the Grande Arche and the CNIT, the Phare
Tower is one of the most ambitious Group projects both architecturally and in terms of environmental
standards. The Project aims to reinvent the traditional concept of an office tower and to create a real
link between the La Défense square and the Faubourg de l'Arche area in Courbevoie city. The total
investment cost before financial expenses is expected to be approximately 900 million Euros.
Project Phare expected to be delivered in 2016 will reinforce the Unibail-Rodamco Group’s historical
presence in La Défense which began with Project Cœur Défense and is today represented by the
Group’s ownership of the shopping centre les Quatre Temps, the CNIT complex as well as the
Majunga Tower (anticipated delivery end 2013).

Guillaume Poitrinal, CEO and Chairman of the Unibail-Rodamco Management Board states: “Both in
terms of its outstanding economic or environmental contribution and its immeasurable height, the Phare Tower will mark a new phase in the infrastructural landscape of the Île-de-France region. A real city within a city, it offers employees and visitors a level of comfort, design and services never seen before in the heart of a major architectural feature.

source : Unibail-Rodamco

Just a reminder:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2a0dqx0.png
:banana::pepper::cucumber:

^^ Thanks for both the good news and the 'diagram'. Very helpful :)

You're welcome chjbolton :).

Here's an Xtra large rendering showing Phare in details:

http://www.pythagore.setec.fr/automne_modules_files/pmedia/public/r138_9_6.8-vue_07_visuel07.jpg (http://www.pythagore.setec.fr/automne_modules_files/pmedia/public/r138_9_6.8-vue_07_visuel07.jpg)

:wave:

Delete please

Since this is one of the most interesting designs for me I spent some time today to look back into the french section thread for this tower, and I found something never posted on international. Cladding tests from february 2010. I think particurally for this one cladding is one of the most essential bits and renders never gave it to much justice. After seeing this pictures some may realise how unique this may be. Just look how different this cladding is from everything else:

february 2010
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3788/1234op.jpg

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6665/123355.jpg

Really, quality architecture :cheers:

New renderings found by Cyril:

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/6.5b-Vue_17_Nuit-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_LOOKUP%20VIEW-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_DAY%20VERTICAL_2-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_DAY%20VERTICAL-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/Vue_01_Lobby_V2modif3%20copy-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_AERIAL%20VIEW-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/projects/phare-tower/gallery/images/1/

Incredible.... if the metallic skin is kept, we 'll have one of the greatest and iconic tower in the world, for sure. Imagine during a sunny day.... whaou

ps: I like the bullet time effect:lol:

What a daring project. It's going to be the French cousin of London's Walkie Talkie. :D

deconstrutivism is back...

What a beautiful tower design :) If only our construction companies were so visionary. I hope it turns out as stunning as it looks in the render.

What a daring project. It's going to be the French cousin of London's Walkie Talkie. :D

Although I love the 20 Fenchurch Street project, I cannot see the connection between the two of them...unless you're refering to the 'I hate it/I love it' controversy (:lol:), or just from an architectural point of view...

As Melb_SuperTall said, I hope Phare looks as stunning in the flesh as it is in those renders.:)

You mean 'sisters' GoodBoisAwesome...It has already been said but just know that Bishopgate Tower and First Tower have something in common indeed, they come from the same Architecure agency (Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates), that's why ;), but we're straying from the point so back on topic now... :)

Its looks like a taco i think its great it will be iconic.

I would say Walkie Talkie and Tour Phare will be brothers in the family of Eccentric Towers, and the Pinnacle is going to be a sister of Tour First in the family of Elegant Skyscrapers. :D

Anyway I'm happy that things are looking up for both London and Paris when it comes to development of skyscrapers.

New rendering of Tour Phare, the design change a bit and it is far better.

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA-09-NA-Vue_07_visuel07-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA-32-NA-Lauren_Rosenbloom-l.jpg

http://www.morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA-16-08-Michael_Powers-_M-l.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7513/mr5pha080415rizzolielev.jpg


I think this tower its a bit too difficult to digest at first , but the more i see it , the more i like it , its modern , its art-ish , its high , its unique , i mean they cant have gone wrong with this , so from the shock of the first time i saw it i can say now after a long while ; I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT :cheers1:

The cladding-test i think look quite simular to the new skijump wind-screen in Oslo:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/holmenkollen.jpg

New rendering of Tour Phare, the design change a bit and it is far better.
Obviously the hairs on the top got much thicker ;)

^^ The "hairstyle" of this tower reminds me a bit of the one Bart Simpson has.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1382/bartsimpson6yb.jpg
source: ImageShack (http://imageshack.us/photos/bart%20simpson/369/bartsimpson6yb.jpg)

Maybe we should nickname this tower: "the Bart Simpson Tower"? :D

How about faux-hawk tower

New pics (april 2011)


http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_DSC_0663_a_PEOPLE-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_P1010186_PEOPLE-512.jpg
FULL SIZE ---> http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_P1010186_PEOPLE-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_12_DSC_0682_a-512.jpghttp://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_10_DSC_0472_person%20for%20scale-512.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_MO_11_DSC_0480_a-512.jpghttp://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_RE_Vue_01_Lobby_V2modif3%20copy-512.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/projects/phare-tower

Some new renders:

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_RE_DAY%20VERTICAL_2-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_RE_LOOKUP%20VIEW-l.jpg

http://morphopedia.com/uploads/PHA_RE_Vue_01_Lobby_V2modif3%20copy-l.jpg

This tower is gorgeous no matter from which side you look at it. It will be a jewel in the Parisian skyline :okay:

The crown is awful. It looks like they started building a really huge building, but quit 2/3 of the way up. Actually, no, it looks like they did build something bigger, but the top was torn off in some kind of accident.

I have no complaints about the bottom 90% of the building, though.

The crown is awful. It looks like they started building a really huge building, but quit 2/3 of the way up. Actually, no, it looks like they did build something bigger, but the top was torn off in some kind of accident.


Maybe thats exactly the effect they wanted to achieve? If I would have any complain about the crown it would be that the "hairs" might be a bit thinner, but I guess as it is now its enough complicated to construct.

For me personally this building is actually one of the very few (if not the only) towers that we actually can call an art. There are some "cool" towers around but this is somehow different league.

Maybe thats exactly the effect they wanted to achieve? If I would have any complain about the crown it would be that the "hairs" might be a bit thinner, but I guess as it is now its enough complicated to construct.

For me personally this building is actually one of the very few (if not the only) towers that we actually can call an art. There are some "cool" towers around but this is somehow different league.

+1
I totally agree!

The crown is awful. It looks like they started building a really huge building, but quit 2/3 of the way up. Actually, no, it looks like they did build something bigger, but the top was torn off in some kind of accident.

I have no complaints about the bottom 90% of the building, though.

+1. Why build something that looks damaged & scarred?

Why not?

I really hope this is not built for the sake of Paris. It looks so awkward, malformed and unattractive, everything that Paris is not!

I do however love the hermitage twin towers!

Lol, my opinion is completely opposite. I actually think that hermitage is out of place. They are not bad towers, they just don't fir Paris in my opinion. Those are the towers one would build in dubai, china or maybe usa, but not in Paris. This city is recognized as a capital of modern, high quality art, and I think Tour Phare perfectly fits to that idea. In fact I don't think Tour Phare could be build anywhere else.

It lacks elegance, but I admire it's ambition... The interior shots are like an impossible drawing come to life, but I can't help feeling the whole project is a bit arrogant.

Architecture in spite of rather than despite it's surroundings.

amazing !

When are they going to build it ? I've been waiting for a good 6 years since they broke the news of this Tower ?

The crown is awful. It looks like they started building a really huge building, but quit 2/3 of the way up. Actually, no, it looks like they did build something bigger, but the top was torn off in some kind of accident.

I have no complaints about the bottom 90% of the building, though.
Must agree about the top....looks like something we learned about in biology....accidental tear indeed!

The tower + the highest of France approved

The Public Institution Development Defence Seine-Arche (Epadesa) announced Wednesday it had approved the sale agreement for the construction of the lighthouse tower (300 m, 69 floors of offices) that will be in 2016 the highest in France.

The price of the promise of selling the rights to build this tower of 147,000 m2 (129,000 m2 of office space), allocated to investment property company (SCI) CNIT Development, belonging to the French property Unibail-Rodamco, n ' was not disclosed.

Work of the architect Xavier Bohl, this tower will surpass the First Tower (formerly Axa) that delighted last May in the Montparnasse tower as the tallest tower in France with 231 yards. It will be between the Grande Arche and the CNIT, in the largest business district of Europe, northwest of Paris, the statement said.
"We are delighted. This is a milestone in the development of defense," he told AFP spokeswoman Unibail-Rodamco.
The Lighthouse Tower is one of the first phase of the recovery plan of Defense decided in 2006 by Nicolas Sarkozy, then Chairman of Hauts-de-Seine.

In May, has signed with Epadesa Sogecap, the insurance company-life of Societe Generale, a deed for the construction of the tower D2. This tower with a total area of ​​54,000 m2 (180 meters high, 37 storeys), will rise on the current location of the building Bureau Veritas (10,600 m2) to be demolished.
The work of two towers have already started: Majunga (195 m high, 69 500 m2), also owned by Unibail-Rodamco, which should be completed in December 2013, and Carpe Diem (166 m, 47,000 m2) of insurers Aviva and Predica (Credit Agricole).

Two other towers should also see their construction to begin soon: Air 2 (200 m 82.000m2), the U.S. fund Carlyle, and that of Italian insurer Generali (92,000 m2).

oryginal version: http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2011/06/15/97002-20110615FILWWW00477-la-tour-la-haute-de-france-approuvee.php



btw it says 69 floors, and 300 meters. Is this correct? Should we move it to the supertall section?

"Work of the architect Xavier Bohl"

= dreadful mistake by AFP journalist...The architect IS Morphosis (Tom Mayne).

"Work of the architect Xavier Bohl"

= dreadful mistake by AFP journalist...The architect IS Morphosis (Tom Mayne).

^^ And what about the height is it correct?

I think this tower its a bit too difficult to digest at first , but the more i see it , the more i like it , its modern , its art-ish , its high , its unique , i mean they cant have gone wrong with this , so from the shock of the first time i saw it i can say now after a long while ; I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT :cheers1:

Totally agree!

the design looks unfinished. it would look nice it it had a spire instead of being cut off like that =/

^^ With all due respect, but then it would look like some stupid stalactite ;)

This tower is in fact very thoughtfully designed. It is "complete", it has proportions, elegance, innovation with a good taste. It is not like most of the present-day so called "innovative" projects that just tries too much being original, but often forget about proportions and balance and turning out cheap and tacky.
As it has been said many times tour phare is one of these designs you don't like at first, and you love after you "discover" it. And if you don't go through that path you just stay hating it. But this is always like that with the brave ideas you either love them or hate, but you just can't be neutral about them.

Should the top of the Tour Phare be redesigned or is it fine now?

:banana: :banana:

Time to build!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff258/truckthis/emoticons/JackHammerSmilie.gif

It lacks elegance, but I admire it's ambition... The interior shots are like an impossible drawing come to life, but I can't help feeling the whole project is a bit arrogant.

Architecture in spite of rather than despite it's surroundings.

Well, stand at its feet in 4 years time dude...I doubt that you'll have the same speech...

Regarding the top of Phare, bear in mind guys that it's an organic tower.

I'm fairly sure that those criticizing Phare right now will be the first ones to gaze at it once built. You guys are gonna warm to like it as it starts taking shape...you'll see...;)

PS: @patrykus, the accurate height is 296m

Rather than an isolated and autonomous tower, the building is a hybrid structure. The 300-meter tower straddles the site to meet the ground as a tripod. It comprises one splayed structural leg, two occupiable legs (the Trapezium, to the west, and the East Building), as well as a pavilion that engages the surrounding context and transforms the public space of the plaza. The two occupiable legs frame a 24-meter-wide by-28-meter-tall void in the tower’s base, creating a monumental urban gateway, which maintains view corridors toward the CNIT and toward Courbevoie and allows pedestrian traffic to flow directly underneath the building.

As it rises from its tripod base, the tower’s asymmetric profile swells slightly to accommodate the soaring Grand Hall, then becomes more slender in response to wind load, and finally tapers off to a thicket of wind turbines, antennas and hair-like structures on the roof. The tower appears to shift continually, distinct from different vantage points—not a single image but a dynamic structure that responds to its site, environment, and performance requirements. At its base, the building’s skin opens, exposing a 250-foot-high Grand Hall. The Grand Hall becomes the center for all vertical transportation. From the Hall’s security checkpoint, people transition to double-deck banks of express elevators serving the office tower. On the 66th floor, a sky restaurant and a panoramic terrace, offering spectacular 270-degree views, are open to the public. Overall, the project comprises 146 988m2 or 1 582 166 ft2 of net surface area and 164 185 m2 or 1 767 273 ft2 of gross surface area.

Technologies integrated into the Phare Tower harness the wind for the production of energy and selectively minimize solar gain while maximizing glare-free daylight. The tower is crowned with a cluster of antennas and a wind farm of turbines that harvest energy—a metaphorical garden in the sky. Both the form and the orientation of the building respond to the path of the sun. The planar, clear-glazed north façade maximizes interior exposure to year-round natural daylight. A curvilinear second skin of diagonal stainless steel mesh panels wraps the tower’s continuous south, east, and west glazed façades to minimize heat gain and glare and maximize energy efficiency.

----> http://morphopedia.com/projects/phare-tower

^^ It would be nice to have it in the supertall section, but well, at least visually it won't make any difference..

Not the highest !!!! HERMITAGE 323M (337M) VS PHARE 296M

we'll see all the haters in 2016 taking pics of this jewel when having a week end in paris :cheers:

Exactly. I would just like to add my name to the list of supporters of this tower. I really hope it gets built - more so than Hermitage

It will get built Talisker! The financing has been secured a long time ago, the planning permission has been granted, The Epadesa did approve it lately etc...we now have to wait for 2012 to come...May I remind you that works are to start early 2012, for 4 years...:)

Exactly. I would just like to add my name to the list of supporters of this tower. I really hope it gets built - more so than Hermitage

Where is that list? I want to add my name ASAP!

I believe it is the most interesting project around, no only in Europe.

That's a daring project when it comes to the design.

It's hard to be original today, look at Europe's leading project! The Shard, Hermitage Plaza, Federation Towers... they all use rather conventional design (with some original features) but this one just take everything casual aside and might be something completely new.

High resolution rendering of Tour Phare:

http://www.abload.de/img/r138_9_6.8-vue_07_visusuha.jpg
Copyright : CEVM, Setec, Dr., SFTRF, Paul Andreu, Elisabeth Devulder, Marc Barani, Lacoudre Architectes/Sezz, Anthony Béchu-Tom Sheehan, Franck Terlin | Source: Pythagore (http://www.pythagore.setec.fr/web/fr/4-references.php)

^^What a presence...PHARE is part of those towers which won't make people indifferent because it really is impressive. 2012 (& 2013 even more), will be a fantastic year for La Défense where many projects (towers among others) will be growing like mushrooms*...

* to date, there are already 2 towers whose construction has started, & a 3rd one will start from september after the demolition of an old building (currently in progress)...

That's a daring project when it comes to the design.

It's hard to be original today, look at Europe's leading project! The Shard, Hermitage Plaza, Federation Towers... they all use rather conventional design (with some original features) but this one just take everything casual aside and might be something completely new.

You forgot to mention Bishopsgate Tower,City Life in Milan and the new ECB Hq in Frankfurt.All these three are close(but not in a tie) to Tour Phare when we talk about avant-garde design,concept and construction methods.

You forgot to mention Bishopsgate Tower,City Life in Milan and the new ECB Hq in Frankfurt.All these three are close(but not in a tie) to Tour Phare when we talk about avant-garde design,concept and construction methods.

I would disagree on the design. Phare is really in a league of its own.

I agree with matthieu!

Even i think the best conventionnal design imo is Pinnacle in london.

But phare is a "bio design" benchmark.

Nothing is close to this projetc in europe! it is the most sci-fi design right now!

I love its position in la defense-> right to rer, metro exit and near CNIT!

then you have no long way to see & shot it

It will be the" phare" of france during the Euro 2016 competition :cheers:

I really REALLY like the top in that last render. Like its desolving in a gentle breeze or something...

By the by, even though I posted the rendering, I really don't like Tour Phare.

Its proportions look unshaped, the craggy concrete base doesn't fit the tower and is as unurban as possible - and the "shaggy hair" on top looks nothing but outstandingly ridiculous. Just my notion.

^^It's very subjective indeed...but that's your opinion, we respect everybody's, so be it then. As long as this project involves controversy, we're happy about it :lol:. But once again, wait 'till it's built, I'm fairly sure that your speech will be slightly different when you stand at Phare's feet...;)

^^It's very subjective indeed...but that's your opinion, we respect everybody's, so be it then. As long as this project involves controversy, we're happy about it :lol:. But once again, wait 'till it's built, I'm fairly sure that your speech will be slightly different when you stand at Phare's feet...;)

I totally agree ;)

When going to Paris, I definitely don't waste time in La Defense, there are better things to do for me. :smug:

^^ & you call yourself an architecture fan...? :nuts:

Very special and unique design , but really not my taste :ohno:
There are better buildings in Paris :)

Jex, where did I call myself a modernist architecture fan? I'm all into classic/historical architecture, which Paris is a treasury of. There are some modern buildings and projects I like, but Tour Phare doesn't belong to those. While Tour D2 does, for instance.

^^I was not refering to Tour Phare in particular as there are dozens of different skyscrapers/highrises in La Défense. Carpe Diem/Majunga's constructions have already started & D2's will start from october 2011, as a architecture lover, you won't "waste your time" in La Défense...;)

ps: now regarding Phare, I really think that skepticals will warm to like it as its erection takes shape...this thread is gonna 'explode' throughout its construction, that's for sure...

Are there other render then that last 1? i only saw that 1.

ps: now regarding Phare, I really think that skepticals will warm to like it as its erection takes shape...
"Erection" is the keyword here. It looks like just another phallus out of shape, in its moment of atony. It sure will be one expensive project, get good materials and everything of high quality and so on. But that doesn't make the design any more appealing imho.

I would describe Phare as one of those girls that is not particularly genuine beautiful
but nevertheless so interresting that you can't keep your eyes off of her :)

But you wouldn't want to get laid by her. Might be heavy.

So am I right in thinking the agreement with EPADESA means they cannot start until 2012? Are the developers able to do anything in the mean time such as site clearance etc.?

"Erection" is the keyword here. It looks like just another phallus out of shape, in its moment of atony. It sure will be one expensive project, get good materials and everything of high quality and so on. But that doesn't make the design any more appealing imho.

I chose "erection" not to say "construction" again, I hate repetitions...:lol:

Talisker
So am I right in thinking the agreement with EPADESA means they cannot start until 2012? Are the developers able to do anything in the mean time such as site clearance etc.?

I suppose so mate. I'm fairly sure they will start doing some preliminary works from early 2012, one of which will consist of removing a huge sculpture also knows as the Pouce de César located between the CNIT & the Grande Arche. However, given that it will be a new construction, we won't waste months & months demolishing another building and so on, we will get into the thick of things pretty quickly. Foundations might take quite some time though as there is a big transportation network underneath (subway)...will be a bit of a challenge (euphemism) in terms of piling and excavation work...yummy!

http://www.psgmag.net/local/cache-vignettes/L625xH625/479721561_fadf68-efc13.jpg
Future site of PHARE

But you wouldn't want to get laid by her. Might be heavy.

And since when is that the rule of measure on someone's right to exist :nuts:

Interesting news today coming from our comrade SebDoc12 (french speaking forum):

SEBDOC12
bonjour à tous habitant du faubourg je suis avec impatiente les travaux de cette tour, le fait que j'habite en dernier étage conditionne certainemement mon impatiente de voir cette tour sortir de terre, enfin bref je suis donc le premier à vous annoncer qu'un emplacement dedié de 50 m2 environ en plein milieu du cnit est en travaux afin d'y montrer la tour phare[...]
il est ecrit sur les panneaux "Bientôt ici, la tour Phare se dévoile , Phare l'exposition"

To sum up, SEBDOC12 announces that a specific place (50 m2)dedicated to PHARE is being set up right in the centre of the CNIT (building visible in the right hand side of the above photo), to showcase the tower to the public.
There's a sign saying: 'Soon right here, Phare Tower is unfolding, Phare the exhibition'.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6374/photoejf.jpg
Pic by SEBDOC12

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/8318/2005474181100908268_rs.jpg
http://perso.numericable.fr/ydelavau/ykld/signal_01.jpg

yuk, this is an abortion :nuts:

Bloody love this skyscraper. Much better than Hermitage. They're not bad (and tall) but this is defo my favourite Paris 'scraper. Only one question though; what's going on on the other side of the main La Defense axis to balance the skyline a bit?

Yesterday, a meeting took place in LD to take stock of the situation of the Plan de Renouveau de La Défense.

To date, there are still 2 legal remedies which could, in the worst scenario, delay the project up to 5 years (as a reminder, works are due to start early 2012...)There are 3 options for Unibail-Rodamco, the first one is to find an agreement with the opponents; the second, to await the Court's judgments (which might take several years); or the last one, to take the risk of launching works not taking into accounts those remedies. The latter is very unlikely to be chosen by Unibail though...indeed, in case of an unfavourable judgment, they would be forced to demolish what they built.

Philippe Chaix, a précisé que le projet Phare était toujours confronté à des recours contentieux[...]Unibail-Rodamco, bute maintenant sur deux recours contentieux. Unibail-Rodamco à trois possibilités : Trouver un accord avec les contestataires, attendre les jugements -ce qui pourrait prendre de nombreuses années- ou alors, un pari beaucoup plus risqué de les ignorer et de lancer les travaux. Cette dernière solution qui n'a très peu de chances d'être privilégiée par la foncière, entrainerait en cas, de jugement défavorable pour Unibail-Rodamco, l'obligation de détruire ce qu'il a construit.

Well, to be continued...

http://www.defense-92.com/lesnewsdeladefense.html

What on earth is that.

interresting :)

I chose "erection" not to say "construction" again, I hate repetitions...:lol:



I suppose so mate. I'm fairly sure they will start doing some preliminary works from early 2012, one of which will consist of removing a huge sculpture also knows as the Pouce de César located between the CNIT & the Grande Arche. However, given that it will be a new construction, we won't waste months & months demolishing another building and so on, we will get into the thick of things pretty quickly. Foundations might take quite some time though as there is a big transportation network underneath (subway)...will be a bit of a challenge (euphemism) in terms of piling and excavation work...yummy!

http://www.psgmag.net/local/cache-vignettes/L625xH625/479721561_fadf68-efc13.jpg
Future site of PHARE
so what are they going to do with the thumb? i like that sculpture.

^^ I like it as well I am using a computer, but no worries, the Pouce de César will simply be moved to another location in La Défense.;)

http://www.shropshirestar.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Wenlock-logo-250.jpghttp://perso.numericable.fr/ydelavau/ykld/signal_01.jpg

That was my first thought, the London 2012 mascot - they have similar curves! :lol:

I like the crown to this tower though, it makes me imagine fire! :D

I'd be really interested in knowing what your favourite project would have been regarding the 'Tour Phare' contest. I think that you guys have never seen the 9 losing projects, so here they are:

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/foster.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0018.jpg FOSTER

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Fuksas.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0013.jpg FUKSAS

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/ferrier.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0015.jpg FERRIER

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Gautrand.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0012.jpg GAUTRAND

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Koolhaas-OMA.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0016.jpg KOOLHAAS-OMA

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Michelin.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0014.jpg MICHELIN

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Nouvel.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0017.jpg NOUVEL

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/Perrault.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0019.jpg PERRAULT

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/syn/De%20Meuron.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes_clip_image002_0011.jpg DE MEURON

Full sizes mock-ups ---> http://www.defense-92.com/Lesprojetsabandonnes.html

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WINNING PROJECT

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/phare-reudu-1.jpghttp://www.defense-92.com/lesprojets_clip_image002_0013.jpg THOM MAYNE

That's very subjective indeed but I really think that the most original/innovative project/tower was actually chosen, so as far as I'm concerned, no regret whatsover...:)

PS: all pics taken by SPOUDZZI

It was discussed a while ago in the French forum and Ferrier's came up first.

If you ask me my opinion I think it's Gautrand's or Morphosis'. Foster's may seem cooler but at the end of the day it's just a cheap crossover between the Commerzbank and Repsol.

I like the FUKSAS design but since it feels close to the Morphsis one, the final selection is just full of win for me. :)

I agree with you Desertpunk, if Morphosis hadn't won, I would have gone for FUKSAS too.

Otherwise, I'm usually a big Foster fan, but his Phare project was very disappointing imo. Regarding Gautrand's Matthieu, well it's interesting indeed but overall, its shape is way too common (especially at the top), same statement for Ferrier's...Regarding Koolhaas's, it's damn fugly...'affreux affreux affreux' ;)

i like the winner, among the others i think Gautrand or De Meuron

One thing is sure, the project of Nouvel was ugly like often...

New render found by Krapulax:


http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/Vue_01_Passage_Folie_V05.jpg

:nuts:

I don't like the winning project at all. Foster is the best of all in my opinion, but it doesn't impress me that much too ... :/

Paris, you deserved a better one! :S

I don't like the winning project at all. Foster is the best of all in my opinion

i agree

I don't. I think this tower is superb. I just hope the cladding isn't value engineered prior to construction to cut costs.

I always said that this is one of the most terrible buildings ever designed. But really, the other contestants are not much better. The ones by Koolhaas-Oma and Nouvel are particularly terrible.

What are you guys talking about? This tower is gorgeous, they even showed an exhibit with the material that will be used for the cladding and it looks awesome :cheers:

What are we guys talking about? The tower looks like a cross between The Blob and an aubergine, everyone can see that.

This is something new, never done before. The shape is very complex and may give suprising results depending on the angles we'd be looking at it. I say let's build it.If it's too ugly it'll be hidden by Hermitage Plaza from a distance anyway and it can't be dispointing from a close distance.

really really weird... but hopefully it will look good! ^_^
two thumbs up for Paris, anyway

Once again, those criticizing it firmly will probably be the first ones to wonder at it once it's delivered, I'm getting 5 on it...;) I now just hope (like Matthieu said) that there won't be any cutting costs regarding the cladding.

@Droneriot, Phare is an 'organic' tower, one of a kind, far from those hundreds of common looking towers all over the world, so obviously its shape is 'unusual', now if you don't like it for the time being, fair enough, but you're very likely to change your mind when you see it 'in the flesh'...

This is a really great, inspired design. The organic shape plus the orientation of the CW and that sort of deconstruction of the volume on the top makes it trully unique.

Reminds of the Beekman in New York in the fact that it has one adventrous attractive side and then one incredibly out of place bland side where they ran out of ideas.

Personally I like the Fuksas and the Ferrier designs best. The winner may be the most unconventional/unique, but that in itself does not equate to being better. However, its the winning design so good luck with this. The latest render does suggest that the design is being squared up to some degree - perhaps to meet market requirements or for value engineering reasons.

I wish Europe would build a supertall with around 350m in the style of the Busan Lotte World Tower. This kind of supertall is my favourite, let's just hope Tour Phare won't destroy the cluster quality.

Busan Lotte World Tower
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/images/oneonone/2011082901.jpg

I like the winning project, it's really the best one. I also like Fuksas project.

I wish Europe would build a supertall with around 350m in the style of the Busan Lotte World Tower. This kind of supertall is my favourite, let's just hope Tour Phare won't destroy the cluster quality.

Busan Lotte World Tower


Actually it is Lotte tower that would destroy the paris skyline with its height (and design). Tour Phare fits perfectly in la defense. It looks like it literally "grow" from the surroundings :)

The latest render does suggest that the design is being squared up to some degree - perhaps to meet market requirements or for value engineering reasons.

No dude, nothing has changed, the back of the tower has always been that way. The tower's design is definitive for quite some time.

Actually it is Lotte tower that would destroy the paris skyline with its height (and design). Tour Phare fits perfectly in la defense. It looks like it literally "grow" from the surroundings :)

I spoke about a "cut" Busan Lotte World Tower, 350m.

The top section looks awesome that part we can see.

new (I think) renders

http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/Vue_14_Panorama_Courbevoie.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/Vue_16_Berkeley_V09.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/Vue_07_visuel_detail__V08.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/pv_03_hall_bas_v4_copy-xj2w.jpg


I still don't get how anyone can call it ugly architecture. It is truly one of the best designs I've seen in past few years.

I still don't get how anyone can call it ugly architecture. It is truly one of the best designs I've seen in past few years.
It is ... right up until the "crown" . That may be unique as well but unique does not necessarily mean beautiful or even remotely appealing .

Kind of telling that theres a distinct lack of renders of the flat side.

^^ If you were the designer would you try to show the flat side? ;)

The exhibition dedicated to the Tour Phare will open late september inside the CNIT! There will certainly be some mock-ups & new pics of Phare. I'll take some pics...

PS: I really don't get the criticisms regarding Phare's crown/hair, it's everything but shocking, I do like it as it 'finishes' off the tower nicely.

I dont like the top

i do

I don't.

The exhibition dedicated to the Tour Phare will be opened to the public on tuesday 4 october, inside the CNIT.

Furthermore, it was reported last weekend that the giant scuplture Pouce de César (Cesar's thumb), where Phare is to rise from, will be either moved down the Esplanade de La Défense next to the CB21 tower (former GAN), or Place Valmy.

I dont like the top

Why do you not like?

Hi,
someone could show me pictures where i can see wind turbine on the roof?? There are a lot of images but i have never seen them! Thank you,

Ale

Hi Alex & welcome,

So far there aren't renders where the wind turbines are visible, but perhaps we'll be able to see them from tomorrow at the CNIT. Indeed, as mentioned above, a very informative exhibition dedicated to Phare will be opened to the public from October 4th. Therefore, if you guys are in La Défense in the next few days, go & take a look at it, it's certainly worth it & of course, it's free. :)

PS: this is the CNIT ---> http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2008/09/09/600x300/1093326_3_8298_cnit-premier-batiment-de-la-defense-en-1958.jpg

Exposition of Phare today
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Wow thanks for posting, such a great project :)

http://www.tour-phare.com/ (http://www.tour-phare.com/)

The exhibition (whose opening took place today), is visible till the end of the year.

PS:@ Alex, not sure whether the wind turbines are still topical or not. But in this render below, the 'things' at the top could be wind turbines though.

http://www.tour-phare.com/client/document/img_05_115.jpg

http://www.tour-phare.com/client/document/img_06_116.JPG

http://www.tour-phare.com/_gfx/contexte_urbain/horizon_urbain/007_img_grd_02.jpg

Bonjour i thought Tour Phare project was cancelled or something like that, no? Is it still U/C now? Can't wait to see this beast in LD, great architecture :cheers: Merci

Hi dude :) .

Bonjour i thought Tour Phare project was cancelled or something like that, no? Is it still U/C now? Can't wait to see this beast in LD, great architecture Merci
No way mate! Phare's financing was secured early 2011, you must be mistaken with another project (Signal or Generali).

The website is very informative (but I don't know whether it's available in english though).

Actually, PHARE's works should have already started for a few weeks (as shown in the schedule), but the remaining 2 legal remedies (by some daft associations) still block the start of its construction.

If those associations decide to 'fight' till the end by using all judiciary means, Phare could be up to 5 years late...(that's the worst scenario).

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A few pics taken yesterday by Spouddzi

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PS: note that the mock-up designers have covered Phare with exactly the same cladding than Phare, but obviously at a different scale. The result really is promising :banana:.

MORE PICS on Spouddzi's website ---> http://www.defense-92.fr/lesnewsdeladefense.html

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I don't understand how the cladding can be white on the renders whereas on the mock up it looks "brown" . Are you sure the mock up has been made with the real cladding we are supposed to see on phare ?

It just depends on the light caserass. In the render it looks 'white' owing to the sunlight reflected on the tower while the brownish color on the mock up comes from the different lightings inside the CNIT (neons & stuff).

Regarding the second part of your question, my answer's yes :), that's what I read in an article, I'm gonna try to find it again & I'll be posting it on here.

I think it's very ugly... :( And why didn't they add just 4 metres to get to the magic 300m point or super tall status?

ugly? people are so concervative in Europe :ohno:

This the truly new gen of design tower! Just because the architect dare to make something different.

And a lot of sci fi movies or series could take this tower like a new urban symbol.

We cannot force people to like it, remember the Eiffel Tower, it was so criticized at the time of its construction... but 122 years later, it has become the most famous tower/icon in the world.

I don't know whether Phare will have the same fate but at least, it doesn't leave anybody cold & that's what matters...I guess people 'hating' it right now are very likely to start liking it as Phare takes shape. I recommend Thom Mayne's presentation (http://www.tour-phare.com/#!architecture/tour_nouvelle_generation) to those finding the tower hard to swallow, it's very informative.

I think it's very ugly... :( And why didn't they add just 4 metres to get to the magic 300m point or super tall status?

IMO it's because of the French rules and maybe security requirements whose are making more expensive a building of 300 meters than a one of 299 meters.

EPIC BUILDING MUST BE BUILT!

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This has got to be one of the most beautiful facades I've seen in my life. Looks like an impressionist painting.

Not just an organic tower with an amazing cladding, a piece of art also :D.

http://www.urbanews.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Tour-Phare-431x1024.jpg

http://www.urbanews.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/PV_NANTERRE_A092D4877-%C2%A9Morphosis-LAutre-Image.jpg

Wow :eek: amazing design...

:ohno:

That thing looks disgusting. "Extraordinary" and "beautiful" are not synonyms, and finding people difficult to understand doesn't qualify them as artists.

Tall ? ...Yes. Unique ? ...Very. Good looking ? ...No chance in my eyes.

You want my idea of beauty ? Take a look at the SocGen towers, or the Deutsche Bank twins. Both complexes are masterpieces in my opinion, unlike this proposed piece of crap.

Well, each to their own.

Honestly, it looks like a fashionista version of a cow stomach.

nope :)

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:ohno:

That thing looks disgusting. "Extraordinary" and "beautiful" are not synonyms, and finding people difficult to understand doesn't qualify them as artists.

Tall ? ...Yes. Unique ? ...Very. Good looking ? ...No chance in my eyes.

You want my idea of beauty ? Take a look at the SocGen towers, or the Deutsche Bank twins. Both complexes are masterpieces in my opinion, unlike this proposed piece of crap.

Well, each to their own.

so keep looking at your 08/15 standard towers, there's enough of them, like 99%. but leave us alone admireing this masterpiece :banana:

Deutsche Bank twins, masterpieces???:hilarious

I just took a look at those, as I didn't know what they looked like...each to their own indeed. NO COMMENT.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tourphare/6282805913/

At the very least, it looks much better than the original renderings from a few years ago.

I'm not fond of the flat side, but this side is actually very interesting.

http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/ph30138.JPG

well...it sort of reminds me of the now extinct project of mexico city's "torre bicentenario":

http://gutielua.com/wordpress/wp-content/images/torre_bicentenario_3.jpg

Unibail-Rodamco has announced the beginning of Phare's works in the forthcoming months, early 2012. The Tower's delivery & its urban spaces is hoped for the 1st half year 2017.

http://actu-architecture.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Phare-Tower-2-©-Morphosis-607x600.jpg

XTRA large renderings:

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http://actu-architecture.com/blog/2011/10/chantier-tour-phare-morphosis/

Are they going to press ahead despite those final appeals? I guess there's no harm in starting groundworks/site clearance.

It's masterpeace and unique tower.

Deutsche Bank twins :tiasd: NO

Are they going to press ahead despite those final appeals? I guess there's no harm in starting groundworks/site clearance.

I'm not sure that they can press ahead as all appeals must be cleared in the first place to start the construction works. However indeed, I guess they're going to start clearing the site, moving the sculpture "Pouce de César" & so forth...

Even though Unibail has made that announcement, I prefer remaining careful...
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@sasa_taisa, it sort of looks like Phare indeed. The Torre Bicentenario is original and quite nice but a bit too angular to me though.

This project is not stunning for sure with the one side being flat and the other curved. Tall -> maybe, but definately not stunning.

Mock-up photographed by Piéton:

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for sure the most iconic skyscraper of Europe in the next comming years...

amazing...

Tower of the century !

sci fi design :cheers:

Film makers would love its design

it's like a fat lady wearing a dress :ohno:

^^ I think at this point after releasing last model pics you're trying to convince only yourself its ugly, otherwise you wouldn't came here saying again and again how you don't like it :D

it's like a fat lady wearing a dress :ohno:

lol. agreed.

"Erection" is the keyword here. It looks like just another phallus out of shape, in its moment of atony. It sure will be one expensive project, get good materials and everything of high quality and so on. But that doesn't make the design any more appealing imho.

I would describe Phare as one of those girls that is not particularly genuine beautiful
but nevertheless so interresting that you can't keep your eyes off of her :)

yuk, this is an abortion :nuts:

What are we guys talking about? The tower looks like a cross between The Blob and an aubergine, everyone can see that.

Honestly, it looks like a fashionista version of a cow stomach.

it's like a fat lady wearing a dress :ohno:

:lol:

(I think the facade is amazing but really needs to be nearly double the height (or half the width) to get the proportions right)

^^ I think at this point after releasing last model pics you're trying to convince only yourself its ugly, otherwise you wouldn't came here saying again and again how you don't like it :D

well i hated taipei 101 for years till i wrote a long essay for school about it and then loved it. so its possible that i may like this building when its actually built, but for now im pretty negative about it and am happy the view to it may be blocked by the gorgeous twin supertalls :lol:

^^ I said that many times in this thread. I actually didn't like it too until they shown better quality renders and models.

I think it is like with experimental electronic music (or other tough art genres for that matter). It's sometimes hard to listen but when you'll find the beauty in, you will say there's nothing better :) Because infact I too realise that the shape of this building is a bit confusing, a bit tough one may say, but still the combination of the unique cladding, interiors and interesting way of relation with the surraundings makes me think there is something undoubtedly nice about this tower.

I think it is like with experimental electronic music (or other tough art genres for that matter). It's sometimes hard to listen but when you'll find the beauty in, you will say there's nothing better :) Because infact I too realise that the shape of this building is a bit confusing, a bit tough one may say, but still the combination of the unique cladding, interiors and interesting way of relation with the surraundings makes me think there is something undoubtedly nice about this tower.I agree. Judging this tower on its own by saying it's "pretty" or "ugly" is totally missing the point.

Tour Phare will totally change La Défense as a whole. The area marked by the Grande Arche, the CNIT and Tour Phare will become a point of centrality unique in Paris.

We have something similar about Hermitage in a way. There's the two towers, but there's also the commercial mall and the conquest of the banks of the Seine. Knowing this, it becomes almost impossible for someone truly loving Paris to be against such a project.

is so beautiful that communicates with God

Say YES! to Tour Phare! :)

One of our forumers (ppierre) propose an online petition to support the project of Tour Phare.

It would be terrific if people from all over Europe and the world would sign it to show that the project affects a lot more people than just surrounding neighbours. We all suffer from nimbyism, let's show a global answer!

Here's a google translate link:
Say "yes" to Tour Phare (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.petitions24.net/oui_a_la_tour_phare&ei=FJfvTqv4EZKHhQfakvStCA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.petitions24.net/oui_a_la_tour_phare%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D1467%26bih%3D707%26prmd%3Dimvnsfd)

the dialog box is at the end of the page. :cheers:

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it's like a fat lady wearing a dress :ohno:

Big Girls are beautiful :)

I would describe Phare as one of those girls that is not particularly genuine beautiful
but nevertheless so interresting that you can't keep your eyes off of her :)

I was being positive here :P

Let's make PHARE happen

http://www.pss-archi.eu/photos/membres/390/l/1320277327nti.jpgBy Piéton

PLEASE SIGN THE FOLLOWING PETITION HERE (http://www.petitions24.net/oui_a_la_tour_phare)



Thank you folks! :hug:

has it not been approved yet? i thought it was already u/c lol :) what a great design

^^Yes it's approved but the construction cannot start as long as all appeals aren't cleared.

However, the preliminary works (destruction of the current footbridge) should have already begun, but for almost 2 months now, the mayor of Courbevoie Jacques Kossowski (initially eager to see this tower rise), has refused for the second time in a row Unibail's proposal regarding the new footbridge...indeed for some reasons (elections...?), he said that Unibail Rodamco's proposals to guarantee the connection between the Faubourd de l'Arche & La Défense during the construction of the 'Phare Tower' were still unsatisfactory.

For people's welfare (sure...), the mayor does not want escalators & lifts but a street level gateway...incredibly, Unibail & Kossowski haven't come to an agreement so far & carry on wasting a precious time stupidly with what I call a 'detail'...

***Carry on signing the petition guys***

Mock-up photographed by Piéton:

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OMG!!!! :master::master::master:

Tour Phare is absolutely the definition of French Haute Coutre Design under architectural masterpieces! IF this one ever gets constructed and in this colour and such cladding and shape, it will certainly trigger a new trend worldwide among architects to build dazzling looking sophisticated buildings and not just a bunch of crap that we see in many places these days.

This will be not be just another tower, but A new tourist attraction for the area and for the city of Paris as a whole. I am just ... :bow::eek2::eek2:

(LaVieImmo.com) - La construction de la tour Phare de la Défense, qui serait la plus haute d’Europe, est actuellement mise entre parenthèses pour « une banale histoire de passerelle », informe Le Figaro.

Le député maire UMP de Courbevoie, Jacques Kossowski, « souhaite qu’Unibail finance une autre passerelle » pour remplacer celle qu’empruntent chaque jour « 20 000 personnes » entre la Défense et Courbevoie. Le promoteur a tenté quelques propositions, rejetées par l’élu qui les a jugées « insuffisantes ». Le maire a même précisé au quotidien qu’ « au cas où la proposition ne serait pas améliorée, je m’opposerais à la destruction de l’actuelle liaison, ce qui empêcherait le début des travaux ».

Ce projet de tour risque donc d’être fortement retardé, surtout si l’on se rappelle qu’Unibail doit également attendre la confirmation de son permis de construire, « attaqué en octobre 2010 devant la justice ».


source: HERE (http://www.lavieimmo.com/immobilier-courbevoie-36276/la-defense-nouveau-retard-dans-le-projet-de-tour-phare-14370.html)

sorry : that means the building of La tour Phare is delayed again because Jacques Kossowski ( UMP deputy mayor of Courbevoie ) wants Unibail build a another footbridge between La Défense to Courbevoie. (average : 20 000 passenger per day) to stand in for the current one that should be destroy to allow the building of the tower .

so ... it's the same problem since a long time ago ;.... and because the election are close now that should maybe move or not ... who knows ? ^^

All that for a footbridge!! I want Phare so much, amazing and original tower.

I'll even help them build that thing if that's what it takes :nuts:

I'll even help them build that thing if that's what it takes :nuts:

Count me in. Who else wants to join? :lol:

(LaVieImmo.com) - La construction de la tour Phare de la Défense, qui serait la plus haute d’Europe, est actuellement mise entre parenthèses pour « une banale histoire de passerelle », informe Le Figaro.

Le député maire UMP de Courbevoie, Jacques Kossowski, « souhaite qu’Unibail finance une autre passerelle » pour remplacer celle qu’empruntent chaque jour « 20 000 personnes » entre la Défense et Courbevoie. Le promoteur a tenté quelques propositions, rejetées par l’élu qui les a jugées « insuffisantes ». Le maire a même précisé au quotidien qu’ « au cas où la proposition ne serait pas améliorée, je m’opposerais à la destruction de l’actuelle liaison, ce qui empêcherait le début des travaux ».

Ce projet de tour risque donc d’être fortement retardé, surtout si l’on se rappelle qu’Unibail doit également attendre la confirmation de son permis de construire, « attaqué en octobre 2010 devant la justice ».


source: HERE (http://www.lavieimmo.com/immobilier-courbevoie-36276/la-defense-nouveau-retard-dans-le-projet-de-tour-phare-14370.html)

As long as (forgot how to say that in French) they don't make a second Shard in Paris!

Moi, j'aime le Shard à Londre aussi bien, mais la même dessin pour Paris sera tellement tellement fou!

Count me in. Who else wants to join? :lol:

Moi!

:hi:

bellissimo

As long as (forgot how to say that in French) they don't make a second Shard in Paris!

Hi there Charlotte,

As long as = 'du moment que' / 'aussi longtemps que' / 'tant que' (ça dépend du contexe) ;).

France is not used to copying other nations when it comes to architecture, so don't worry.

Shard is a beautiful building, but honestly I prefer Phare a lot more for many reasons (organic shape, one of a kind, amazing cladding, several different faces). Although some people criticize its design, I'm fairly sure that it will be Paris's new pride after the Eiffel Tower, once built it's gonna be a fantastic new kind of building to gaze at. It will be so iconic...:)

Regarding the footbridge, let's wait for the Elections to take place...Kossowski has been using this 'pretext' to show his electors how involved he can be regarding their 'welfare'...

That's a common behaviour...things are likely to evolve positively once the elections over. Furthermore, it doesn't change anything as 2 appeals need to be cleared before starting works. As mentioned in a previous post, the Court's decision will be known late 2012. Therefore, we must wait & see.

One of the most beautiful towers in the world. I hope I will see it.

Great, I really like this organic "coat" of the building. It will fit very well among the existing highrises, especially somewhat similar Tour T1.

Hi there Charlotte,

As long as = 'du moment que' ;).

France is not used to copying other nations when it comes to architecture, so don't worry.

Shard is a beautiful building, but honestly I prefer Phare a lot more for many reasons (organic shape, one of a kind, amazing cladding, several different faces). Although some people criticize its design, I'm fairly sure that it will be Paris's new pride after the Eiffel Tower, once built it's gonna be a fantastic new kind of building to gaze at. It will be so iconic...:)

Regarding the footbridge, let's wait for the Elections to take place...Kossowski has been using this 'pretext' to show his electors how involved he can be regarding their 'welfare'...

That's a common behaviour...things are likely to evolve positively once the elections over. Furthermore, it doesn't change anything as 2 appeals need to be cleared before starting works. As mentioned in a previous post, the Court's decision will be known late 2012. Therefore, we must wait & see.

Je vous remercie pour la correction. Je l'apprecois beaucoup.

in my views, Shard although a great building, will be outdated and looking rather bland and boring after a decade has passed as this hype will sure be over. But Phares on the other hand, will be a trend setter, like I said the YSL or C. Lacrois among the many skyscrapers. It has a form, a certain unique look and feel to it and an eye catcher, not specifically because of it height, but more so because of the elegance, the curves, the rather sophisticated look. This is one that will become a new highlight on city's skyline. Shard, I love it too, yet I already find it quite bland.

I really like this tower, hope it will be built soon.

Overall, some nice looking scrapers proposed or under construction for Paris.

Somebody have some news ?

Le tribunal administratif de Cergy-Pontoise (Val-d'Oise) rendra le 11 mai sa décision concernant les recours déposés par des élus et riverains contre le projet de construction de la tour Phare dans le quartier d'affaires de La Défense, à l'issue d'une audience mercredi.

:llama: The Tribunal administratif de Cergy-Pontoise will return its verdict on 11 May regarding the 3 appeals against the construction of the Tour PHARE in La Défense's district. The appeals come from nimbies & elected characters.

Fingers crossed...:cripes:

http://www.whitezine.com/images/Tour-Phare-6.jpg


http://www.cbanque.com/actu/29979/la-defense-decision-le-11-mai-sur-les-recours-contre-la-tour-phare

ps: many thanks to Krapulax for this valuable information...

Stumbled on the name of this tower today, and oh man is this awesome.

If this gets build, the overall shape is the best of any skyscraper there is IMO. Some very nice projects for La Défense, including those new cladding projects to freshen up some of the older towers.

wow amazing

looks very very nice

Man, that looks difficult to build!

Man, that looks difficult to build!

No more than Versailles...

The best project in Paris yet. Awesome. :cheers2:

Man, that looks difficult to build!

Indeed, it's gonna be a real technical challenge to build PHARE, particularly owing to its location (see article below!)

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/16689_6_PHA_DI_MASSING.jpg

The Tour Phare is a highly innovative tower destined for construction in La Défense. Marty Doscher, Founder and Director of SYNTHESIS Technology Integration and formerly Technology Director at design studio Morphosis, has carefully crafted this arresting building whose cavernous atrium bears its structural bones for the world to see. The asymmetric silhouette of tower swells slightly near its base to incorporate a Grand Hall, tapering as it rises into a mass of wind turbines on the roof. A high performance double skin permits a flood of natural light but reduces solar heat while creating a memorable aesthetic presence in a busy urban environment.

Located on a small site crowded with others’ imaginative architectural concepts, the Tour Phare met numerous design challenges head on. Doscher explains: “The tower emerges from its irregular site, defined by a neighbouring motorway and a rail link, and bisected by an existing pedestrian walkway. It is located between the 1989 Grande Arche de la Défense and the 1958 CNIT building, the former exhibition hall of the National Inter-University Consortium for Telecommunications, with an architecturally significant glass façade, designed by Jean Prouvé.”

In reaction to the complex intrusions that impinged upon the Tour Phare’s footprint, a hybrid structural solution was formed. Resting on a tripod base, the tower comprises one splayed structural leg, two habitable legs (the Trapezium to the west, and the East Building) and a pavilion volume to transform the existing public plaza. At the building’s base rests a 24m wide by 28m tall void to be utilised as an urban gateway, however this unusual design solution was not without its troubles.

Project Architect, David Rindlaub furthers: “Early on, the building core was concrete and the rest of the structure was steel. In this configuration the concrete foot was integral to the structural integrity of the tower. Ultimately the tower structure changed to almost all concrete except for the steel diagrid structure of the grand hall. Because of the added stiffness provided by the additional concrete structure, the concrete foot ultimately became non-critical to the structural integrity of the main tower.

“The concrete foot is necessary however to reduce horizontal movement (sway) in the tower to allowable levels for the comfort of the building users. This change importantly accelerated the anticipated construction schedule because the main concrete tower can be built ahead of the installation of the steel grand hall diagrid.”

When faced with multifaceted design challenges, architects and engineers regularly turn to design technology to aid the creative process. Morphosis began working with 3D modelling software in the mid 90s and now uses BIM for the technical design of every project. When questioned on the positive ramifications of the software, Doscher explained: “Initially, the impetus was the management of complex design geometries, but the benefits are now recognised as two-fold.

“One, computational techniques afford the exploration of more options for geometries and patterns. Two, computational techniques enable the feedback from builders to become encoded into the design tools (that which governs the economy of making becomes captured in the design logic), so that as options are explored, there is a built-in measure of constructability.” In terms of this particular scheme, Doscher elaborated: “The design technology certainly reduced the size of the design team required to handle the immense quantity of information required to fully understand the design and execution of the project.”

Many thanks to everyone for their interest!:goodbye:

I ll be in Paris next weekend again and can't choose between Hilton LD so I can take a few pics for you guys or for Radisson Trocadero.

Looks lovely if being built. Then I will always stay in LD. :)

Just follow your heart Charlotte...:D

ps: It looks like your enthusiasm has diminished since your previous post (#1209)...;)

Hmmmm, I dunno about this... I like the design overall (especially the cladding!), I just think its possibly too bulky and the bottom is too complicated with all the different shapes going on...

Just follow your heart Charlotte...:D

ps: It looks like your enthusiasm has diminished since your previous post (#1209)...;)

LOL :D if I would follow my heart, I would buy one of the rooms at Shangri-La hotel or at Pullman Paris Tour Eiffel and always sit there, stare out of the window with my mouth open and never need to eat or drink.

If you just could know the magnitude of my obsession with Eiffel Tower. :)

Hey, let's meet too if you are in Paris.

http://a.yfrog.com/img740/9973/g08vk.jpg

I love this design! Very sleek, modern and organic.

CF---> Post #1224

Fingers crossed...

CF---> Post #1224

Fingers crossed...

It's now the 12th. Was the decision delayed?

I suppose so mate... I'll update the thread as soon as I've got news.

@CharlotteJ: funny post ;), I personally am keen on the Eiffel Tower too...sorry but we can't meet as I don't live in Paris...

The 3 appeals against the Tour PHARE got rejected last friday by the Tribunal de Cergy-Pontoise.

The nimbys & elected representatives are now yet to make a decision whether to appeal against the Court's decision or not. According to their lawyer, it would be a very expensive procedure with no garantee at all as for him a positive outcome is now very unlikely.

Let's wait & see...

http://www.cbanque.com/actu/30193/rejet-des-recours-contre-la-tour-phare-de-la-defense

Good news. So, say the nimbys won't appeal. When it could eventually start construction?

Well, in this case the last issue will be the footbridge. To date, the mayor of Courbevoie Jacques Kossowski has rejected the 3 proposals by Unibail (see previous posts). That's a very political affair...hopefully, after the general election on 10 & 17 June 2012, the mayor & Unibail might come to a compromise...

To be continued...

I fucking hate France. It will choke to death on its red tape... Very sad.

To be all grist to your mill chjbolton...

Jean-André Lasserre, responsable du groupe politique "Une Autre Ambition pour Courbevoie" n'a pour l'heure pas indiqué s'il comptait faire appel de la décision. "Nous attendons de voir le jugement et nous prendrons notre décision la semaine prochaine lors d'une conférence de presse" a déclaré l'élu PS d'opposition à Courbevoie.

André Fessy, le responsable de l'association envisagerait de faire appel et d'attaquer le permis de l'"IUP" qui permettra d'acheminer en air frais la climatisation de la tour Phare.

Jean-André Lasserre (socialist), at the head of the political group 'Une autre Ambition pour Courbevoie' (it's rather 'Zero ambition for Courbevoie'...) said he will make a decision whether to appeal or not as part as a press conference next week.

André Fessy -in charge of the Association- is said to envisage appealing & attacking the 'IUP' permit that will bring some fresh air for PHARE's air conditioning.

So, if they end up appealing, that would mean another year & a half to court...

PHARE isn't on track quite yet...:ohno:

To be continued...

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These associations will decide whether to appeal or not next week. If so (which is likely), let's hope the EPADESA -Organisation running the business district- will however launch the preliminary works not to waste too much time.*

These pathetic associations make me wanna puke as they carry on finding any way to delay PHARE. This is truly abusive & I do hope they'll end up getting heavily penalised financially speaking for such a ridiculous & childish behaviour.

I'll update it all as soon as I have more information...

* indeed such appeals seem not to have a suspensive effect

As part as a press conference The Association 'Une autre ambition pour Courbevoie' presided by socialist Jean-André Lasserre & regrouping the PS (Socialist Party), the PCF (French Communist Party) & Europe Ecologie les Verts (the Green Party) announced on 22 may 2012 their will to appeal against the Court's decision which rejected the appeals on 15 may.

For their part, the members of the 'Village' Association haven't confirmed yet their intention of appealing as well against the Court's decision or of attacking the 'IUP' permit that will bring some fresh air for PHARE's air conditioning.

http://courbevoie.typepad.fr/.a/6a00e55230e79988340147e145a133970b-320wi
Jean-André Lasserre, the socialist asshole

Phare est un supertall

lacks 3m to get that status, it's purely symbolic though

Phenomenal tower!

I hope it earns landmark status !!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/BounceSmile.gif