I'm not sure if there is a thread about this building, but I think it deserve it's own thread.:) Marky said we might get some info about this building on Monday 11 December. :cheers2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/Chanceryapartmentsrender3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/Chanceryapartmentsrender1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/Chanceryapartmentsrender2.jpg

Lovely looking building - hope CHC gets something like this soon.

Lovely looking building - hope CHC gets something like this soon.

I'm sure CHCH will get some 100m+ towers soon. ;)

I'm sure CHCH will get some 100m+ towers soon. ;)

but extra Fab in a City like Christchurch , would add a real center piece to the Skyline :cheers:

Nice looking building, better yet though if they added a few more floors!

After the rather uninspiring architecture from the likes of precinct and harbour view, this should enhance the skyline quite nicely.

Nice looking building, better yet though if they added a few more floors!

After the rather uninspiring architecture from the likes of precinct and harbour view, this should enhance the skyline quite nicely.

Precinct is STUNNING ! the renders did it no justice but to see it up, close and personal is a revelation ;) However I do agree with you regarding Harbourcity - YUK ! I have moved my desk in my studio so that I don't see it -NOW all I see Is Vero, Lumley and Metropolis - BEAUTIFUL ! :nuts:

Nice looking building, better yet though if they added a few more floors!

After the rather uninspiring architecture from the likes of precinct and harbour view, this should enhance the skyline quite nicely.

^^Yeah 10 more levels would be cool.:D

beautiful

Indeed, marvellous design, really hope this goes ahead. Remember even with Resource Consent approval the developer doesn't always go ahead with a project (but usually does).

Now thats a building... I really hope this one gets Resource Consent approval

Now thats a building... I really hope this one gets Resource Consent approval

mtb, when did you slither past the 1000 mark. Posthumous congratulations are in order!

mtb, when did you slither past the 1000 mark. Posthumous congratulations are in order!

he used to post alot more before u came, he doesnt talk much now :( lol :cheers:

mtb, when did you slither past the 1000 mark. Posthumous congratulations are in order!

oh ages ago... at least 8 months ago lol ... sorry havent been on here very much lately :cheers:

only 3 day to go before we get some more info on this building :banana:

oh ages ago... at least 8 months ago lol ... sorry havent been on here very much lately :cheers:

only 3 day to go before we get some more info on this building :banana:

Yeah we all depend on Marky now.:cheers2: Can't wait till Monday.:)

...Marky said we might get some info about this building on Monday 11 December...

Any news yet????

When would construction start on this if approved?

Any news yet????

When would construction start on this if approved?

Will check out some sites today :)

werent we supposed to hear if this got consent on Monday? any news??

It's weird i havn't seen anything on this on any property websites.

It's weird i havn't seen anything on this on any property websites.

Its always been a Mystery Tower this one , remember how we had the Renders emailed over from Hong Kong LOL ....... as far as I know Bayleys sold Most of theses Apartments to overseas investors , so if it has been approved , construction could commence quickly :)

I really like this one!! :) Unique looking top on it.

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/members/hearings/a200612110900.asp
DATE: Monday, 11 December 2006
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Reporting on an application to make alterations to the existing building (carpark podium) and construct a 30-level tower above it at 1-71 Chancery Street, Auckland Central. The Planner is recommending, subject to contrary or additional information being received at the hearing, that the application be processed without noticed and be consented to, subject to certain conditions.
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Hmm.. Couldn't find results of that hearing...
Another thing looks like Elliot is not on agenda any soon...
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/members/hearings/default.asp

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# The Chairperson then generally closes the Hearing and the applicant, submitters and their representatives leave the room. The Hearing Panel will then deliberate "in committee" and make its decision by way of formal resolution. Decisions are made available within 15 working days of the Hearing.
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So, 11 Dec + 3 weeks we should hear something about results

Wow, even if the building turns out nearly 1/2 as good as the renders posted by sth_Auk on page 1 of this thread, it will still be quite stunning. Great design!

Wow, even if the building turns out nearly 1/2 as good as the renders posted by sth_Auk on page 1 of this thread, it will still be quite stunning. Great design!

I'm sure it will turn out just like the renders.:)

Now this is a fantastic design that fits. really elegant

Approved! well at least on emporis.:)

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=streetchancerystage1-auckland-newzealand


I'm not sure why it listed as 32floors, if you count the levels on this render clearly that it's 34floors.:bash:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/Chanceryapartmentsrender1.jpg

This is a beautiful looking building. If it looks anything like the render it could be one of Auckland's best.

Could someone please remind me where Chancery Street is?

Basically the northern side of Albert Park (University). Near by is Auckland's fashion district, Vulcan Lane, and the High Court.

from memory... is it being built where 'world' is?!! if so, ill be very unhappy.

^^No its going where there is currently a carpark building, not much else there.

amazing building

It's nice... but it would be nicer, say, an extra 20 floors taller?

But still, brilliant design ^_^

It's nice... but it would be nicer, say, an extra 20 floors taller?

But still, brilliant design ^_^

I agree about it being a bit taller, as i think this building would suit that. I hope there is a tick in the box for this building getting built soon :cheers:

Very lovely design. Love the curvature and the spire. Looks futuristic but not abrasive and monolithis, like the proposed Elliot Tower.

Just hope it stands out from behind the Vero Centre. May possibly be blocked out in future by any large-scale development ontop of the Shortland Street carpark.

Anyone heard an update on this one? I haven't seen anything in the news or anywhere.

the Office Section of the Chancery Tower ... I would take it that the Tower has Planning approval ? I actually thought this part had already been Built ? or is it just a Carpark there at present ?:cheers:

http://www.movingtimes.co.nz/details.php?property_id=241

http://www.movingtimes.co.nz/share/property_images/1723.jpg

^^ MMM that better not be the tower :lol:

^^ MMM that better not be the tower :lol::cheers:

^^No nothing's been built there so far, still just a carpark. This commercial bit has been advertised for awhile now, I remember seeing it last year.

So the spire is gone but I hope that the building is little taller maybe 50levels :nuts:

I now have in my hot little hands new pics of the Chancery Tower...and here they are..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/ChanceryTower4_2007version.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/ChanceryTower_2007version.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/ChanceryTower2_2007version.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Flyin_higher/ChanceryTower3_2007version.jpg

I made a mistake in saying that the spire has been removed, its just been altered and is now less overbearing (better I think).

Thanks for that Todd! I'm It still looks pretty good to me but i think it's still hard to tell what the built result will look like i think. I'm disappointed that the Northern side of the building still ahs a blank wall facing the street. How are we going to create more nice shopping streets if this keeps happening? Still i approve.

looks worse!

its nice............but still could be taller....even though i think this building will be kind of hidden by vero and lumley and metropolis....would u be able to see it from devonport?

I'll take it thanks.
Looks fine. Will be a great addition to the skyline.
As usual, I would like to put on record that another 5-10 storeys would not be out of place!?!

wasnt this building taller in the past renders....but its bulkier now
its just not that impressive...........could be taller

Fantastic effort. Still looks good but I do miss the spire!

Couldn't be taller i'd say- shading issues with Albert Park means Council wouldn't grant Resource Consent.

@Sam, I think those issues have been resolved, what I heard was that street level improvements have been made with glazing added etc, so perhaps this design isn't the most recent in terms of that part.

You know that carpark part with the trees on top is such a waste of space! they could of put another tower on it! Also would it hurt to incorperate something more to the bottom level? maybe some shops or cafes? instead of a plain wall that will get graffiti all over it. :nuts:

Fantastic effort. Still looks good but I do miss the spire!

Yeah I like the spire. :cry:

But Not as Good as before , looks like a Cheaper Version or something ?:)

Nah I reckon the old spire design would have looked silly in real life. Too out of proportion to the rest of the tower. There is still a spire there, just not as big!

Marky its probably the angles of the pics I got, doesnt show it as well.

I like this one! IMO the bulkiness makes it look taller and more dense.

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/78285116.jpg


From this angle the Chancery will fit nicely between Metropolis and Vero. :cheers2:

^^ Your right, it will mate.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/roth7891/2.jpg

:)

Yea it'll look great from that angle! I hope this actually gets built (resource consent approval doesn't automatically mean it will- they need apartment sales too).

Nice job with that mock up render btw!

Nah I reckon the old spire design would have looked silly in real life. Too out of proportion to the rest of the tower. There is still a spire there, just not as big!

Marky its probably the angles of the pics I got, doesnt show it as well.:banana: :cheers: :banana:

^^Hehe good stuff. Yea bring on the cranes!

I think it looks quite nice. What's the actual height to roof?

Not sure if I have the right angle or height - but this gives an idea! Hopefully the building will be built in full colour too!

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/78491403.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/78491943.jpg

An equally bad attempt - but something to look forward to

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/78492057.jpg

^^All good efforts kf! Btw, that area really does need a facelift!

not bad at all...good work....it seems to fit in with the other high rises...but luks different from differnt angles

Now this may or may not be true, I certainly hoping its the later - I was chatting with a mate who works in commercial property last night and we got onto the topic of the Chancery, now he reckons the air rights above the car park are up for sale as the lack of apartment sales in the building have sunk the project. I thought this was silly given I've never come across any advertisments for the building in NZ. Anyone else? Either way does anyone else know anything regarding this? I'll try to chase it up. Would be a real shame if this tower does not go ahead.

Well i would hope not! but what could be a possibility is that the air rights are being sold above the carpark on the eastern part of the site (the roof garden bit), while the apartment tower is going ahead on the western part of the site. Originally there were 3 towers that were goingto be built on the site back in the 80's, so if only 1 apartment tower is getting built, then they might be thinking about selling the air rights for the other 2 spaces?

And the fact that the building has been re-designed recently to meet the demands of the council design panel would also suggest that the developers are serious.

those were my thoughts also, but he seemed pretty adamant. Next time I see the lad I'll press him for his source.

Think this must be the same one :)

What TTP still owns

* Chancery carpark, Kitchener St, Auckland

* Parts of Clearwater resort, Christchurch.

* A 521-bay Queenstown carpark, almost finished.

* 10 housing lots and chalets at Grassmere in the South Island.

* Block of land on Favona Rd, Mangere.

* Christchurch land subject to an Environment Court ruling

* Strata-titled Sydney office block at 65 York St.:cheers:

Think this must be the same one :)

What TTP still owns

* Chancery carpark, Kitchener St, Auckland

* Parts of Clearwater resort, Christchurch.

* A 521-bay Queenstown carpark, almost finished.

* 10 housing lots and chalets at Grassmere in the South Island.

* Block of land on Favona Rd, Mangere.

* Christchurch land subject to an Environment Court ruling

* Strata-titled Sydney office block at 65 York St.:cheers:
They've also just bought back Axon House in WLG if I recall correctly.

im doing this months diagrams. is this now 140m to roof? and 150m to spire?

Brilliant, I hope it goes ahead, this tower is fucking class.

has this project been shelved now? or what?

No it's just not under construction yet.

so it has been approved by the council yea?

Well I think as far as the Urban Design Panel. Haven't actually heard much lately. That doesn't mean it's been cancelled tho.

oh ok i just found the architects for this building

heres the website and it has some information on the Elliot also
http://www.walkerarchitects.co.nz/

^^Lol yea i already knew bout that website. Problem is abit of that stuff is out of date, and the Elliot stuff is only a scheme idea they did, so was never an official design.

Watch this space, but don't hold your breath!

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/86948828.jpg.jpg

^^lolz yea I reckon.

nice one for auckland i wish welly wud build more tall buildings 30 40 high

There has been no news on this one for ages!

Ive been keeping an eye out for this one too. Did a walk around that area last time I was in Auckland and was impressed with some good apartments on Eden Crescent and Parliament Street.
Would like to see it built. Would add more density to the city and a good quality building too.
On top of that its also an excellent position overlooking Albert Park. Just around the corner from my fav coffee haunt Vulcan Lane. And just a couple of blocks from the waterfront. I'd live there!

Do you think if we start posting on this thread more it will make it happen????

I was wondering where you guys got the renders of this building from??

Do you think if we start posting on this thread more it will make it happen????

I hope so. Here's my contribution!

I was in Walker Architect's office the other day (which is located basically where this tower is meant to go) and they had a big rendering of it on the wall. They were talking about it with our client, and from my perception of how they were mentioning it (references to "the development site" etc.) it seems like it's still planned to go ahead.

did u ask them about it?

Going there today, so possibly could. My business has nothing to do with it, so I'd have to find the right moment ;)

lol Just Ask them-"Oh! Thats a nice looking tower!!!...Is it going to be built in Auckland??...Where?" :lol:

Had a brief talk with one of the top guys at Walkers Architects about this project. He said that it has been very on-again-off-again, but he rates it at least a 50% chance of going ahead.

He said something along the lines of the owners trying to sell the land and plans at the moment, not sure what that meant.

Apparently it's an awesome building though, with a hotel, offices and apartments. The Walkers' guy said that he's seen a 3D model of the place, which actually takes you inside the building through a video, and it looks amazing. Wish I could get hold of that!

Had a brief talk with one of the top guys at Walkers Architects about this project. He said that it has been very on-again-off-again, but he rates it at least a 50% chance of going ahead.

He said something along the lines of the owners trying to sell the land and plans at the moment, not sure what that meant.

Apparently it's an awesome building though, with a hotel, offices and apartments. The Walkers' guy said that he's seen a 3D model of the place, which actually takes you inside the building through a video, and it looks amazing. Wish I could get hold of that!

Thanks for that Jarbury .. out of all the proposals for Auckland I want this one the 2nd most ..... we can all guess which one I want most but The Chancery is a close second. I would also love to see the 3D presentation ... cross fingers and toes that it does get off the ground ;)

Had a brief talk with one of the top guys at Walkers Architects about this project. He said that it has been very on-again-off-again, but he rates it at least a 50% chance of going ahead.

He said something along the lines of the owners trying to sell the land and plans at the moment, not sure what that meant.

Apparently it's an awesome building though, with a hotel, offices and apartments. The Walkers' guy said that he's seen a 3D model of the place, which actually takes you inside the building through a video, and it looks amazing. Wish I could get hold of that!

but have had this Building Designed and Placed into Planning , and are now trying to sell it to a Developer , whom I hope as well , will Build it !:cheers:

Thanks for that Jarbury .. out of all the proposals for Auckland I want this one the 2nd most ..... we can all guess which one I want most but The Chancery is a close second. I would also love to see the 3D presentation ... cross fingers and toes that it does get off the ground ;)

Have to agree with you there. Myself personally I think its easy for me to say that in regards to buildings I want lots of them real tall and everywhere! Bit of a simplification- even I would tear down what I think is that Oaks building on Fort Street? That skinny one in front of Vero.

Any new additions do need to be of good quality though and this one MORE than fits the bill from what Ive seen.

Record apartment price for inner-city
12:00AM Wednesday May 03, 2006
By Anne Gibson

http://media.apn.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/chancery.jpg
The $6.3 million apartment is at the top of this 30-level tower planned to go up on the Chancery carpark.
A new apartment planned for Auckland's CBD is being marketed in Asia for $6.3 million, a price thought to set a record for an inner-city unit.

Three people who specialise in the Auckland apartment sector said this was the highest price they had heard about and one agent said Asians were being asked to pay prices higher than the local market would stand.

Cyndi Nola of apartment developer Kitchener Group, Damian Piggin of Ray White City Apartments and a spokeswoman for Melview Developments all said they had not heard of a New Zealand apartment fetching such a high price.

Brian Mead's Westmark Group is planning the proposed Chancery Residences & Hotel Suites, marketing it in Hong Kong and asking top dollars for a penthouse suite atop the 30-level tower.

One party close to the deal said the first 15 to 20 floors would be serviced apartments, to be run by Mirvac under The Sebel Suites brand.

Auckland City's central planning chief, Vijay Lala, said an application to build the block was lodged in November and was being processed by assistant planner Alastair Cribbens.

No decision had been made about notifying the application. A full set of application documents could be viewed at the council, Lala said.

When plans for the block came to light last winter, many Ascott-Metropolis unit owners were aghast at the concept, fearing it would partially block their harbour views. They hoped it would not be built. Rival property developers and owners feared damaging shading, wind and view effects on the Metropolis and the Northern Club.

At the time, Chancery shopping centre developer Mead said the new tower was "just a vision". Marketing units in Asia was simply an attempt to test the market and he did not want to give the impression the tower would definitely be built.
But quarter-page advertisements in the Sunday Morning Post, a South China Morning Post publication, showed detailed designs and promised a new icon for Auckland.

The block, designed by Walker Architects, is earmarked to be finished by the first quarter of 2008 and will rise from the existing Chancery carpark, next to the Chancery shopping centre and on the waterfront side of the 40-level Ascott-Metropolis tower.

The most expensive unit being marketed is a split-level four-bedroom apartment on level 29 with CBD, harbour and Albert Park views. The unit's area is 694sq m. For $6.3 million, buyers get four bathrooms but no carpark - those cost another $60,000 each, according to the latest price list.

Next most-expensive is a one-level 476sq m unit on level 28 being advertised for $1.4 million.

Nola said apartments in Kitchener's new Precinct tower had not yet gone on the market, but 162sq m to 231sq units were priced from $1.3 million to $1.47 million and included two carparks.

Piggin, of Ray White, said Asian buyers were being asked to pay 30 per cent above New Zealand prices for the Chancery units. Metropolis apartments sold for $6000 sq m, Hyatt Residences units were selling for $5000 sq m yet Chancery units were priced at $9200 sq m.

"The local market would not entertain that high price."

Top-price Auckland apartments:

Chancery, corner Chancery St and Bacons Lane, $448,000 to $6.3 million.

The Sentinel, Takapuna, a level-28 unit selling for $4.5 million.

The Stanley, proposed for Albert/Swanson St intersection: units from $1.4 million to $3.2 million.

Princes Wharf, Shed 24 penthouse fetched $3.6 million nearly two years ago.

Premier waterfront apartments at North, Lighter Quay, fetched more than $3 million around 2002.

Precinct penthouse, level 32, corner Lorne and Victoria Sts East, for sale from $1.4 million.

When plans for the block came to light last winter, many Ascott-Metropolis unit owners were aghast at the concept, fearing it would partially block their harbour views. They hoped it would not be built. Rival property developers and owners feared damaging shading, wind and view effects on the Metropolis and the Northern Club.

At the time, Chancery shopping centre developer Mead said the new tower was "just a vision". Marketing units in Asia was simply an attempt to test the market and he did not want to give the impression the tower would definitely be built.


It really pisses me off when apartment residents from the Metropolis oppose the development because it will simply block their 'views'....
Fucking Hell!! Did you ever notice you lived in a CBD??
This is not Orewa afterall!

Great Searching though Buddy ....Please find a site saying the Apartments are for sale , Construction commencing early 2008 :cheers:

Yea it was posted already Akash, but no harm in reposting it :)

http://chanceryresidences.com
From time to time, the skylines of the leading cities of the world are enhanced by new iconic buildings. Auckland, New Zealand, is about to enjoy such an occasion with the Westmark Group of Companies development of the 30 level freehold Chancery Residences and The Hotel Suites.

Further information will be available soon, please fill in the form below to register for any information updates. If you include your postal address we will send you an information brochure as well.

If all of us fill out the form, the developer might think there is a lot of demand lol :nuts: :nuts:

http://chanceryresidences.com


If all of us fill out the form, the developer might think there is a lot of demand lol :nuts: :nuts:

Is that being advertised at the Moment ? If it is Eneee will Splash across the Harbour :lol::banana:

I have no idea lol...lets see if they send any info

I have no idea lol...lets see if they send any info

I hope ya on to somthing Buddy .........I haven't seen it before !:cheers:

^^ I hope so!
Isnt that the newer render on the website?

I hope ya on to somthing Buddy .........I haven't seen it before !:cheers::banana:

who did u send the email to?

Sorry guys- no new news. Dont get excited. Im just going to say I really like the look of this building. Is there a website for this? I'd like to visit it a few times and get the developer excited with 'extra visit counts'. Id be impressed if this one is built. It would challenge the Metropolis as Aucklands best apartment in my opinion. Until the Elliott is built anyway.

http://calliope.co.nz/pics/Chancery.jpg
Source:http://calliope.co.nz/

^^ Damn thats sexy! :eek:

It really needs to be built doesnt it. And where they want to put it is the perfect place. Unless you live in Metropolis apparently.

Beautiful.

Will quite comfortably be the most stunning tower in AK if built. Here's hoping. I'd like to think the solid sales of Safron are a good pointer to the strength of the market. hey, i'd happily buy if i had some coin about. :cheers:

dang.!! this is one nice building.! iLike, nice stuff.!:cheers:
please get the go ahead :) yay

website; www.zhong.co.nz

http://www.zhong.co.nz/bbs/data/gouache/1141896897/chancery_tower%2Cpark_view.jpg
Would have looked amazing! ;)

^^ What happened to the rest of the city? LOL

Vero is behing it :nuts:

No Metropolis though, or Lumley Tower. Surely these would be in it? The building would actually be pretty damn close to the Metropolis.

Looks really nice from Albert Park. What are the chances of it going ahead?

^^ As far as I can tell, very slim :( But someone with more knowledge on the situation can probably give you more details than I can ;) Welcome to the boards, btw! :)

Unless the street level aspects of what is currently there were to be improved with this building I wouldn't want it going ahead. Building on top of an old carpark which presents huge concrete walls to pedestrians, a hangover from 80's developments shouldn't be encouraged. If this site is to be developed the first order of call is demolishing the existing carpark and starting anew. If I remember rightly back when this was first discussed the council urban planning board weren't happy with what was at street level.

^^ Those are fairly minor details in the context of the entire building though. I would agree though, having an active ground level with retail activities should be a priority, and one would think with a damn big apartment building on top of them and the whole Chancery/High Street shopping precinct not far away, that retail would be pretty damn viable here.

It's simple to add now during the planning/designing process - but it hasn't been, instead there are still concrete block walls. Once it's built it would never happen. I'd rather the status quo such that at some point in the future someone willing to do this will build there, rather than this one be built and that part of Auckland which has a lot of potential be left as a dark dingy area.

Cheers

Honestly I like the design so much I dont care were its built. Maybe the end of the Tank Farm is one place. Or standing alone on K Rd above spaghetti junction. Or even through it over on the North Shore just next to the Harbour Bridge.

Has the consent application for this tower been notified, or didn't it even get that far? It says Pending Approval, which I assume means that we're waiting for an outcome from a consent hearing, or did financiers pull out for some reason?

The reason I ask, is that drosophila's opinion would make an excellent submission.

To be honest I haven't heard a thing on this for about a year now. Last I heard was that the urban design panel were about to give it their stamp of approval, but not sure if this was pre-resource consent or post-consent.

Oh shes sexy! sad Im nt in Auckland nemore... n me thinks it'd b better if built somewhere west of queenstreet (so prolly Albert st?). we need more "real" (as opposed to boxy) skyscrapers ther...

Any news?

Apparently the site is being considered for an office tower. I'd imagine that means this project is pretty much toast. Big shame, would have been a stunner.

Hopefully we'll get something better :-) demolish that butt ugly carpark and start afresh with the site - with Chancery and High Street next door this site isn't one that will be developed lightly I'm guessing.

If I recall the car park is actually the foundations of a tower that got scrapped due to the stock market crash in 87. I'd imagine the fact that the foundation work is already done it would make construction considerably cheaper.

Sure it would make it cheaper but the potential for a large expansion from Chancery into the street levels of this site would be something that would really improve the area from the blank walls that exist at present.

really improve the area from the blank walls that exist at present.

Blank walls? Whats wrong with blank walls? The city is full of them and they shout out for spay-can wielding drop-outs to stun us with their 'creativity', why not there? :) I don't think much will happen on this site for quite a while. I hope I am wrong, as Auckland is in dire need of decent office space. :ohno:

Yes - NZI had planned in the mid 1980s a triple tower block that was going to be built in the Chancery St. / Kitchener St. area. The initiall plan got canned due to shadowing over Albert Park. The nail in the coffin was the 1987 stock market crash.
The highest tower was 150 mtrs. I had the initial design plans at the time. The whole design looked very impressive and imposing. The current car park got built only.

dead or on hold????
pls not dead :ohno:

As dead as disco.

...and buried.