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malec December 10th, 2006, 02:55 PM Proposals for a massive tower in DIFC, Dubai.
Norr International:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
Atkins:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/ATKINS-DIFCCentral.jpg
Dewan Architects:
http://i7.tinypic.com/4mhk0f7.jpg
CivicArt:
http://www.civicart.com/images/DFC/tower.jpg
zee December 10th, 2006, 03:08 PM that is one ugly fuckin tower
the first ones looks great
Jamandell (d69) December 10th, 2006, 03:11 PM The first one looks really good :)
will.exe December 10th, 2006, 03:17 PM Yea the first one is great. That+BD=unfuckingbelievably incredible skyline. New York and Hong Kong would fall to their knees.
Erebus555 December 10th, 2006, 04:04 PM Definitly the first one.
european December 10th, 2006, 04:34 PM The first tower would fit in very well with dubais current skyline. The sevond tower maybe in 20 years time or so.
Chad December 10th, 2006, 04:41 PM Altin said there were more proposals on display.
and I bet he took the photos of all of them.
z0rg December 10th, 2006, 05:35 PM :|
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/kpf-1_OtgJH8L9bCPu.jpg
AltinD December 10th, 2006, 05:45 PM and I bet he took the photos of all of them.
No I didn't, but I remember that one of them was not much different from ATKINS' proposal.
Valcom December 10th, 2006, 06:44 PM Why not tne second, but without those "things" in the midle!
Danger! 50,000 volts December 10th, 2006, 07:36 PM The first one is beautiful, looks a bit like the tower out of i robot! The second looks like something that happens if you give your girlfriend a soldering iron!
Alweron December 10th, 2006, 07:47 PM I love that first tower. There's some equalities with the Federation tower in Moscow. The second one by Atkins looks horrible. I really hope they won't build that kind of tower. Its design doesn't make any sense. And what's wrong with that center part of the tower? Some weird lump in the middle of the tower. I'm sure the local people won't let them build that tower. It will go throught some serious changes before it get built (if they ever build it).
LLoydGeorge December 10th, 2006, 07:50 PM The first one looks really good :)
Agreed! Dubai is superb!
soup or man December 10th, 2006, 07:51 PM The second building looks like it has leprosy.
The first one is nice though.
lpioe December 10th, 2006, 08:18 PM Don't like either of these two too much, the first is okish tough.
Any guesses about the height?
I don't know how tall the surrounding towers are, so it's difficult for me to guess.
ZZ-II December 10th, 2006, 10:26 PM the first is great and the second......not ugly but not my taste
-Corey- December 10th, 2006, 10:33 PM I like the first one but the second one sux
Sbz2ifc December 11th, 2006, 05:00 AM There seems to be a competition underway for a new megatall tower to be built in DIFC (which is between the emirates towers and burj dubai). The first proposal was found a few weeks ago and is designed by Norr International who also did the emirates towers. Judge the height yourself :)
Well... I really think this is a great tower. It's probably the best Dubai proposal in a long time (IMO). It does have that futuristic irobot feel, it has so many good features...
but you are right malec, i see the controversy :yes: What's with that huge spire??? It's 1/3 of the whole tower and it makes it look like a freaking syringe. It's a bad joke, really. I guess they figured out they can't build a world's tallest, or one that would last, but wanted a record anyway, so they went for Tallest/Longest Spire Ever. If it gets built like this, it's probably gonna keep the title forever.
Cut the spire in half, at least.
ZZ-II December 11th, 2006, 07:01 PM looks like between 500 and 600m
shawarma December 11th, 2006, 08:15 PM the first is : been there, done that
the second is: dont do it!!
Harkeb December 12th, 2006, 02:56 AM tower 2 will seriously damage Dubai's skyline.
The headquarters of Mr Burns (Holmer Simpson's Boss)? :)
frank gerry December 12th, 2006, 03:35 AM i like the first one with only one tower:) that twin tower may not fit with the Dubai skyline:lol: better keep it in the drawing boards:)
harsh1802 December 12th, 2006, 03:45 AM tower 2 will seriously damage Dubai's skyline.
The headquarters of Mr Burns (Holmer Simpson's Boss)? :)
:lol:
The first one looks terrific.....but i think it would be better if we look at more renders of the second one and then pass the judgment on it.
:|
Brendan December 12th, 2006, 03:45 AM First = great.
Second = Ugly, as do most of Dubai's buildings look.
SaRaJeVo-City December 12th, 2006, 04:10 AM first one is awesome, second one starts out great but as it gets to the tumor it just turns from WT...into WTF!
goschio December 12th, 2006, 06:33 AM I like the second one more. Looks alive.
Captain Howdy December 12th, 2006, 07:26 AM I agree with whoever said the second one looks like it has a big tumor growing out of its side:ohno: scary
Dubaiwonders December 12th, 2006, 10:23 AM The first is prety good but the second is really a nightmar
B@dGuYoM December 12th, 2006, 11:31 PM Go for the 1st, because the second render does not look like dubaï style
tbor December 13th, 2006, 02:23 AM The first one is utterly forgettable.
The second one is weird, but at least we would have something to b!tch about on this forum for a while.
rj2uman December 13th, 2006, 02:26 AM LOL I love all the comments. But have to ask not why they would add those bulbous additions. But what are they for? Offices? Skybridges? Observation? If they don't have a special purpose (not just a general one) I agree they are horrible.
luv2bebrown December 13th, 2006, 02:31 AM The second building looks like it has leprosy.
The first one is nice though.
it looks like some kind of necrophiliac leprosy
Daireon December 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM Even though the first one is great, i'd go for the second one. It's so original and ...weird! I want to see it built. I've never seen something like that, and as someone has already said, we need more renders to give a final judgement.
KB December 13th, 2006, 12:16 PM How dare do they publically display sex in that second building?
I like the first one though.
malec December 13th, 2006, 07:52 PM The first one is utterly forgettable.
The second one is weird, but at least we would have something to b!tch about on this forum for a while.
Sort of agree with this, which is why I'm not too fond of either proposal. The first looks good by itsself but doesn't fit into the context (dwarfs all the szr towers) and doesn't have much that's special about it.
The second is not boring and definitely makes a statement but goes a tad too far. Some people like to compare architecture with sculpture or some other art but it really is not the same. Why? Because if you make something ugly people will go to the museum and either say "yuck" or "hmm, interesting" or "wow, what a change from the norm" but once they leave the museum everything is back to normal. With a building, especially a tall one the general public will have to endure your piece of shit for decades and there's no escaping it. I know if I was a kid this thing would scare the shit out of me, I could easily imagine a kid walking out of the DIFC metro station and seeing this tower above them and start crying their eyes out :D)
In art you don't have to care what everyone else thinks but in architecture you DO because you design your building for the general public and is to be used by them, etc.
malec February 14th, 2007, 11:29 AM A recent article:
The world's first zero-carbon emission tower could be built in Dubai, Construction Week has learned.
Atkins Middle East is currently working on the design of the building, which will be located in Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC).
Lee Morris, senior architect, Atkins Middle East, said that the tower is in the early stages of design.
"We are working on a potential project for DIFC and are looking at it having zero-carbon emission. The tower would produce its own power - enough to counter the energy use of the building. Now that would be a huge goal."
He added: "It is conceptual, but it has been given a piece of land, and it has been approved by HH Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum [vice-president and prime minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai]."
In order to achieve its ultimate design, Morris said that Atkins will focus on the tower's orientation, the increased thermal insulation of the building, along with high-volume photovoltaic cells.
The company is also looking into integrating wind turbines on the building.
"It will be expensive - it has to be because the technology we are going to be using is probably a couple of years away from the mainstream," said Morris.
According to Morris, the move to build an iconic building that is sustainable reflects a growing change in Dubai.
"Once you get this groundswell it is going to be awesome and will be hard to resist. The Dubai government has signed the Kyoto protocol, so it has made a commitment to engage on this. And as the country and development matures, particularly as it is a young society, and it is this same society that will bring in views on this kind of thing, I think the next few years will see a sea change."
Atkins' sustainable building projects in the region include the Bahrain World Trade Centre, which uses wind turbines to generate up to 15% of the building's energy, and the Trump Tower on Palm Jumeirah, which has vertically mounted solar panels to generate energy as well as pipes running through the external skin of the building, which heat water.
Other buildings in the emirate that have made strides towards going ‘green' include Wafi City's district cooling plant, which in January achieved the Gold Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) status, the first accreditation of its kind in the Middle East.
Atkins also have a proposal for another tower in DIFC so it refers to one of these two, one of which is the really weird one:
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7771/atkinsdifccentralfk3.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atkinsdifccentralfk3.jpg) http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6724/atkinsdifclighthousetowbn0.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atkinsdifclighthousetowbn0.jpg)
Locke February 14th, 2007, 11:54 AM The second atkins tower is fantastic, the first one however should go see a doctor about that.
Tricky February 14th, 2007, 12:14 PM I agree with the 99% of the posts in here who say that
- the 1st tower is great, but
- the 2nd just sucks
ZZ-II February 14th, 2007, 12:33 PM i like both
WhiteMagick February 14th, 2007, 02:08 PM IMO The first one looks like a copy of the Burj and the second one is just plain ugly. Dubai needs something geniune! And a skyscraper that doesnt have a 200-300m spire just to acquire the title of Tallest Building for tourism...
AltinD February 14th, 2007, 02:35 PM ^^ *cough* ... the last phrase ... */cough*
SNT1 February 14th, 2007, 03:24 PM IMO The first one looks like a copy of the Burj and the second one is just plain ugly. Dubai needs something geniune! And a skyscraper that doesnt have a 200-300m spire just to acquire the title of Tallest Building for tourism...
brownie points for a "supertall" spire tacked on? :banana:
nezzybaby February 14th, 2007, 03:28 PM i think if they want it to be a self sufficient tower the second one is the only serious proposal. It seems to be designed with a large area for catching wind, and a relatively small floor plan which would require less energy to heat/cool. The first one could only be sufficient if it is infact a giant tumour that feeds of everything it comes into contact with.
nezzybaby February 14th, 2007, 03:29 PM sorry double post
Chevin February 14th, 2007, 08:07 PM The first looks the building in the movie " i-robot" , jus put USSR and that's it. Then the second looks like a perverted building touching another building...lol.
rexdmx February 15th, 2007, 12:12 PM whoa easy on your criticism of the towers!
i dont see anyone offering a constructive solution
now let's see.......
what do you want to changed about the second one?
and puh lease dont say everything:banana:
WhiteMagick February 15th, 2007, 12:13 PM brownie points for a "supertall" spire tacked on? :banana:
Yay!! Can it be a chocolate chip brownie pretty please because i was not afraid to say my honest opinion?? :D
but seriously. i love the burj design, its great but lets get real, its very obvious why they have such a huge spire. :)
Is it me or was the second proposal similar to another supertall for the plot next to the Jin Mao? I can't be bothered looking around the forum for the topic and pic. Its too slow... :(
malec February 15th, 2007, 01:08 PM ^^ Yep it was. In fact I prefer the atkins proposal to the norr one for some reason. I'm going to model it in sketchup when I get the time
Indyman February 15th, 2007, 10:42 PM To be honest I like the second rendering better...the first is just so been there done that. The design is like a song thats played to much. That being said, the second is insanely bizarre but I prefer it.
malec February 16th, 2007, 02:51 AM A little render made by me. The tower isn't actually finished since I still have to add a few tumors here and there. Click the pic to see the massive version:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9096/bigfatmapwhiteog2dl9.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigfatmapwhiteog2.jpg)
BTW would anyone like to guess the height of this thing? It turned out around 475m here.
megatower February 16th, 2007, 03:08 AM i believe this 1 will be chosen http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg , other then that other piece of sh*t looking tower
malec February 16th, 2007, 09:38 AM So anyone want to guess the height?
Cymen February 16th, 2007, 01:51 PM I like both, I don't see why is everybody complaining.
cjav February 16th, 2007, 05:00 PM brownie points for a "supertall" spire tacked on? :banana:
:tiasd: Couldnt resist posting this, but I like the first design even though its straightforward, atleast it looks good, the second.. well no comment
malec February 16th, 2007, 06:17 PM Feast your eyes on this!!! :nuts: :hammer: :hahaha: :tongue3:
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2038/bigfatmapwhiteam1.jpg
ZZ-II February 16th, 2007, 07:57 PM i believe this 1 will be chosen http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg , other then that other piece of sh*t looking tower
hopefully, that design is great. looks like 600m maybe more
Nuks February 16th, 2007, 08:23 PM A little render made by me. The tower isn't actually finished since I still have to add a few tumors here and there. Click the pic to see the massive version:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9096/bigfatmapwhiteog2dl9.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigfatmapwhiteog2.jpg)
BTW would anyone like to guess the height of this thing? It turned out around 475m here.
Yo malec, how do you get shapes like those tumors in sketchup?
The_Dude February 17th, 2007, 12:49 AM That damn building is really growing on me, there's a certain futuristic oddness about it that just gets me after a while of staring blankly at it, perhaps sacrelige on here but i wouldn't mind seeing it built.
malec February 17th, 2007, 01:17 AM Yo malec, how do you get shapes like those tumors in sketchup?
I have an add-on patch called "soapskinbubble" where you select any closed loop and generates a surface. It's handy but in fact here, they make the tower look even more odd since the curves are nowhere near perfect.
jhae February 17th, 2007, 02:46 AM :blahblah: lolzzz i dont know about you guys but hey..
the organic look of the second one could look great when built..
hehe as what i have percived on it, not as the CANCER, TUMORS,,
:rofl:but as nodes of a plant/stem...
judging by it looks it could be a nice backdrop for a scifi movie or game..:banana:
well it is a nice architectural piece rather than by some stiffy engineers..
oh well i hope that wins :banana:
malec February 17th, 2007, 02:53 AM http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3852/2abn0.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9991/5and8.jpg
jonovision February 17th, 2007, 05:29 AM Very nice, now if only they could bring all the skylines together!
six453 February 17th, 2007, 10:47 AM can u share with us the patch for the soap skin?
thanks! nice work!
Brendan February 17th, 2007, 12:00 PM Very nice, now if only they could bring all the skylines together!
Come 15+ years and they probably will.
AltinD February 17th, 2007, 01:48 PM Very nice, now if only they could bring all the skylines together!
That will means Koruskant, is 25 miles we're talking obout :lol:
ZZ-II February 17th, 2007, 03:41 PM lets hope ;)
TexasSkyWatcher February 17th, 2007, 03:55 PM I like the first tower and the second render. I am not yet ready for twin towers that look like they are diseased.
Now to fix it? Get rid of the bulbous additions and the red splashes of paint. I think they'd find the glass fitment to be a nightmare anyway.
Ralphkke May 2nd, 2007, 10:48 PM The first one is great, the second one really sucks.
Ember-To-Ashes May 2nd, 2007, 11:16 PM i love the first design it totally reminds me of the 550m tower in I, Robot =D
Sentient Seas May 3rd, 2007, 12:11 AM The first tower is brilliant, the second one looks like a ... well, it's just ugly.
Dubai Spacescraper May 3rd, 2007, 04:19 AM isn't this project the same as the "lighthouse tower" it looks to be in the exact same place. Perhaps this thread should be renamed or closed if I am correct.
malec May 3rd, 2007, 09:40 AM Could be. We don't know but the atkins one could have been a proposal for the lighthouse tower but the first one is clearly not in the same place. I guess eventually something will be announced on this plot but when.
AltinD May 3rd, 2007, 11:27 AM The second building by ATKINS (the one with tumors) is NOT related with The Lighthouse Tower (also a ATKINS design) in any way. Both towers were showed on ATKINS stand and this one was labelled as DIFC CENTRAL.
malec May 13th, 2007, 05:00 PM Hmm, so now we have 4 proposals for the "DIFC Central" tower which no official news has ever been released yet more images keep popping up.
Norr International:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
Atkins:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/ATKINS-DIFCCentral.jpg
Dewan Architects:
http://i7.tinypic.com/4mhk0f7.jpg
CivicArt:
http://www.civicart.com/images/DFC/tower.jpg
ZZ-II May 13th, 2007, 05:05 PM Norr International's design is my favourite but the design from CivicArt is also not bad
Chad May 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM Isnt this the Light House Plot?
No?
MDguy May 13th, 2007, 06:06 PM my favorite is Norr International. CivicArt isn't so bad either. ya, like TexasSkyWatcher said, not ready for diseased towers yet and I don't really care for Dewan Architects design either
Alle May 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM no, according to AltinD
AltinD May 13th, 2007, 06:47 PM ^^ According to me?
Hm, true The Lighthouse was not proposed for the central plot of DIFC but they moved the location of the tower, so maybe now it occupies the central plot, or maybe not.
malec May 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM It still doesn't occupy the central plot though
James R. Hawkwood May 13th, 2007, 07:10 PM Hmm, so now we have 4 proposals for the "DIFC Central" tower which no official news has ever been released yet more images keep popping up.
Norr International:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
CivicArt:
http://www.civicart.com/images/DFC/tower.jpg
These two.
The rest is rubbish....
Do you agree with me???
The first looks great but the second one is even better.
ZZ-II May 13th, 2007, 09:31 PM yeh, i agree with you :)
andy_wakey May 14th, 2007, 02:19 AM love the second one
Daireon May 14th, 2007, 03:09 AM I loooooove the "ugly" one, with those tumors, lol. I think it's so original. We've never seen something like that built before. The rest of the proposals are amazing, but they are quite common, i mean, there's nothing special with them IMO.
mightygoose May 14th, 2007, 04:51 PM how close is this to the lighthouse tower??
potipoti May 14th, 2007, 08:07 PM These two.
The rest is rubbish....
Do you agree with me???
The first looks great but the second one is even better.
Totally agree!!!
Stephan23 May 15th, 2007, 02:55 PM :omg: this one is so unbelievable, but I don't think it gets built. No info or anything about a long time!!
chinatown May 15th, 2007, 06:29 PM the 1st one is the best,the last one is ok. 2nd one & 3rd one r jokes...
ZZ-II May 15th, 2007, 06:41 PM :omg: this one is so unbelievable, but I don't think it gets built. No info or anything about a long time!!
^^, I'm sure it'll be build :)
Mr. Alloy June 3rd, 2007, 06:44 AM http://www.civicart.com/images/DFC/tower.jpg
That last one is the only one I really care for, and it's sort of plain itself. The first one is just another phallic-looking tower, and the other two are just ugly.
malec October 22nd, 2007, 12:32 AM This thing is back. We now have a 5th proposal for this.
Cityscape 2007 , Perkins+Will
DIFC Central Complex,Dubai
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2160/imresolt046pf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1676/imresolt047vv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5736/imresolt048sq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2876/imresolt049dd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The_Dude October 22nd, 2007, 08:35 AM Umm that's the PERFECT building, it's beautiful and it simply must be built.
FROM LOS ANGELES October 22nd, 2007, 08:48 AM I love the CivicArt towers but not so much the complex...but this is the best proposal!
whonose October 22nd, 2007, 10:08 AM What is that light show in the middle? Is that a physical construct or a projection?
Saudi guy October 22nd, 2007, 10:35 AM what's that pinky thing in mid?
Sander- October 22nd, 2007, 10:45 AM It seems it is connected to the towers (notice how the top connection only connects to the left tower)
Cristovão471 October 22nd, 2007, 10:52 AM Does that glowing cylinder with the spires in the middle contain spirits/ghosts?
AltinD October 22nd, 2007, 10:58 AM ^^ No, just captured Alien Life Forms.
wjfox October 22nd, 2007, 11:20 AM Pics aren't showing for me. :redx:
jak3m December 18th, 2007, 05:40 PM Isn't this project in the exact same place as the Lighthouse Tower
:S
AltinD December 18th, 2007, 05:53 PM ^^ No.
riasbaixas December 18th, 2007, 06:25 PM Vote for the first one :D
Hollie Maea December 18th, 2007, 06:31 PM Vote for the first one :D
No! Vote for the one in post 91 :bash:
:D
outbackbox December 18th, 2007, 11:56 PM That first one is the nicest looking tower i eva seen
xXFallenXx December 19th, 2007, 04:28 AM No! Vote for the one in post 91 :bash:
:D
:yes:
that one looks great!
decks67 December 20th, 2007, 09:06 PM Norr International: looks great the others are ok
TheGlobalizer December 20th, 2007, 09:45 PM They should build the first one in Dubai, the second one in Paris, and #3 and #4 on other planets.
The zero emission tower has to be the "2nd" Atkins tower. Lots of aligned surface space.
firoz bharmal February 9th, 2008, 10:27 AM HAVE THIS IS THE FINALISED PROJECT OR ......?
firoz bharmal February 9th, 2008, 01:36 PM Norr International: looks great the others are ok
I agree with you ccause it looks more impressive then their predeccesor.
AltinD February 9th, 2008, 05:39 PM HAVE THIS IS THE FINALISED PROJECT OR ......?
Nothing is finalized, we don't know even if a tower will be build there at all.
Ni3lS February 9th, 2008, 07:17 PM The first one fits the best in skyline of Dubai I think. the second is ugly. and I also don't like the third.
velut arbor aevo February 9th, 2008, 08:15 PM the first one is good, the rest are garbage
Shadow|Reaper February 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM I like the first one the best. Slender and using great architecture complementing the Dubai skyline, I say build it!
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 February 9th, 2008, 08:28 PM The nomber one is beautifull and style.:banana:
ABQ_X-PAT February 9th, 2008, 09:50 PM Yea the first one is great. That+BD=unfuckingbelievably incredible skyline. New York and Hong Kong would fall to their knees.
First building looks great! And no NYC or HK will not fall to their knees.
Taller does not mean better or more functional. Yes the "cool" factor is there for having the title of being the worlds tallest. Can NYC, HK, Chicago and other American/Chinese cities get into a race with Dubai with 200+ floored structures? Absolutely! Hey the Chicago Spire will be 150 floors so who knows?
In the mean-time let's all enjoy the Dubai building boom party (read: bubble) and whoop it up while it lasts! Dubai is a great fix for my addiction to tall modern buildings. Unfortunately economic bubbles never last and I am afraid Las Vegas and Dubai will be in for a major market driven surprise in the coming years.
ABQ_X-PAT February 9th, 2008, 09:55 PM The fourth rendering kind of grows on you... It looks like one of those mega casino's in Las Vegas...
Shadow|Reaper February 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM First building looks great! And no NYC or HK will not fall to their knees.
Taller does not mean better or more functional. Yes the "cool" factor is there for having the title of being the worlds tallest. Can NYC, HK, Chicago and other American/Chinese cities get into a race with Dubai with 200+ floored structures? Absolutely! Hey the Chicago Spire will be 150 floors so who knows?
In the mean-time let's all enjoy the Dubai building boom party (read: bubble) and whoop it up while it lasts! Dubai is a great fix for my addiction to tall modern buildings. Unfortunately economic bubbles never last and I am afraid Las Vegas and Dubai will be in for a major market driven surprise in the coming years.
Well this will be the first one to last.(everything in the Dubai is the first) And btw in 5-10 years time i think that NY and HK will take notice of Dubai's might ;).
helghast February 10th, 2008, 12:54 AM ^^ ur 100% right
WinoSoul February 10th, 2008, 01:52 AM wow!!!
Newcastle Guy February 10th, 2008, 02:34 AM Well this will be the first one to last.(everything in the Dubai is the first) And btw in 5-10 years time i think that NY and HK will take notice of Dubai's might ;).
Don't be so stupid.
helghast February 10th, 2008, 02:36 AM ^^ hows he speaking stupid ???????????
skyperu34 February 10th, 2008, 05:47 AM The first one is the best !
Jim856796 February 10th, 2008, 02:17 PM I prefer the Norr International and Civic Art proposals. The Atkins proposal sucks.
malec May 18th, 2008, 12:22 AM Dubai plans low carbon-emission project
Published: 13 May 2008 14:00 GMT Author: Christopher Sell More by this Author Last Updated: 13 May 2008 17:52
Dubai is planning its second low carbon-emission development project which, like the first, will be located at Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC).
Canada's Busby, Perkins & Will won the contract to design the project in December. The design features two towers, with a uniquely-designed wind turbine placed between them.
RWDI, the Canadian-based wind engineering consultants, which carried out work for the Burj Dubai, were also involved in the design.
The towers will be the second office-block development in Dubai that incorporates wind turbines into the structure following the Lighthouse Tower, designed by the UK's Atkins, also being built in DIFC.
The 400-metre office tower aims to reduce energy consumption compared to a conventional design by up to 65 per cent and water consumption by up to 40 per cent. This will be achieved using solar technology including photovoltaic awnings, a series of low energy and low water use solutions, as well as recycling systems for energy and water reuse. As well as the wind turbines, the building will supplement its power supply using 4,000 solar panels incorporated into the structure (MEED 27:4:07).
Author: Christopher Sell.
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So if the tower they talk about is this one (and it looks like it is from the description) then we know which one it'll be.
BTW, the 400m tower they talk about is the Atkins one, not this one.
Ni3lS May 18th, 2008, 02:31 AM Hmm.. their plans are very modern ;)
Infrasuper Planet May 18th, 2008, 12:11 PM ^^ thats the ugliest thing i've ever seen. who the f*** thought of a design like that.
The rest of the proposals, and especially the first one, are really good though.
NeedForCity May 18th, 2008, 12:32 PM this is good for people who like to see buildings that look like shit!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/ATKINS-DIFCCentral.jpg
:puke:
Nr. 2 May 18th, 2008, 05:26 PM I like it: it looks different, futuristic, cool!
ZZ-II May 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM agree, i like it too...has something special :)
Alle May 18th, 2008, 05:35 PM Its horrible if they build that atkins one :( Maybe if they remove the red dots which are only annoying, a real eyesore. Also id prefer it to be built over the road from the Emirates towers and also have a large green area/park around them like they do.
iliamo May 18th, 2008, 05:52 PM the first one is great, the others are kinda weird..
Woozy May 18th, 2008, 06:10 PM this is good for people who like to see buildings that look like shit!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/ATKINS-DIFCCentral.jpg
WTF!!?!?! It looks like its some diseased thing!
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 May 21st, 2008, 03:01 PM Is a NOPAL:lol::nuts:
mclancer May 25th, 2008, 07:02 AM WTF!!?!?! It looks like its some diseased thing!
I think that the left side tower should be bending over and moaning !!!
"Oh baby, harder, faster, give me more of your reinforced concrete..." :lol:
TruLoki May 25th, 2008, 06:27 PM That Atkins one is terrible its seems they picked up the idea from a bad Sci-Fi movie, its completely devoid of taste. I'm not totally adverse to a Sci-Fi look as long as its tasteful like this design:
http://members.abunawaf.com/yaba3dhom/20070522/jwhart_almamlkah_1.jpg
http://members.abunawaf.com/yaba3dhom/20070522/jwhart_almamlkah_2.jpg
LeMoN-SK May 25th, 2008, 06:42 PM Well, it is futuristic, but IMO not so tasteful.
This one looks tasteful to me:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
TruLoki May 25th, 2008, 07:01 PM Well, it is futuristic, but IMO not so tasteful.
This one looks tasteful to me:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
Yeah its pretty hard to satisfy most people because of the inspiration behind the design but as always taste is subjective, although you'd be really hard pressed to see anyone impressed with the Atkins design :p
bizzybonita May 25th, 2008, 11:11 PM 2nd one is my fav :)
Eric Offereins May 25th, 2008, 11:40 PM Well, it is futuristic, but IMO not so tasteful.
This one looks tasteful to me:
http://i17.tinypic.com/485qcxu.jpg
I would prefer this one too, but i think the spire is a bit too long in respect to the rest of the tower. :)
snail456 May 26th, 2008, 09:53 AM I disagree, if the spire was any shorter it would look out of proportion to the rest of the tower.
Alle May 26th, 2008, 09:58 AM Im tired of redundant spires, why does almost every tower feature one these days? Sharp things are an eyesore.
Marco Polo May 26th, 2008, 10:26 AM I think that the left side tower should be bending over and moaning !!!
"Oh baby, harder, faster, give me more of your reinforced concrete..." :lol:
This is THE FUNNIEST post I have read in a long, long time. Cheers!!!!:lol:
bertiboy May 26th, 2008, 05:11 PM I think the spire is in perfect relationship with the whole tower! Perfect design, I really like it.
Sander- May 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM I don't get it - has the red crazy one been decided on?
ZZ-II May 26th, 2008, 09:20 PM nope
necrophagist May 26th, 2008, 09:57 PM Im tired of redundant spires, why does almost every tower feature one these days? Sharp things are an eyesore.
agreed, I dont like them either. do they have any purpose? I can't imagine, they all are radio antennas
stewie1980 May 27th, 2008, 06:46 PM I found this with google:
http://www.difc.ae/press_centre/archive/2007/images/376.JPG
http://funatics.blogspot.com/2007/05/dubai-international-financial-centre.html
ZZ-II May 27th, 2008, 07:00 PM that's a different project, called Lighthouse Tower...it will be 400m tall
Alle May 27th, 2008, 10:04 PM agreed, I dont like them either. do they have any purpose? I can't imagine, they all are radio antennas
Definitely not, one doesnt need many radio antennas to satisfy the needs for communication services.
I think skylines look generally better without too many spires, there are some exceptions like EST and Burj Dubai where the spire is an integral part of the building.
But I see many buildings today in which they have simply attached a spire at the side or similiar, it doesnt look like a natural part of the structure, I do not understand what the purpose is really.
Stewie:
If you find a report about a 400meter tall skyscraper from over a year ago, you can be positively and definitely confident that it has not gone unnoticed here :) .
AltinD May 28th, 2008, 10:14 AM Why you still keep talking about ATKINS or NORR proposals when we know who won the design competition and how the design will more or less look like.
AltinD May 28th, 2008, 11:10 AM This is the CONCEPT design selected for the plot:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2160/imresolt046pf5.jpg
ZZ-II May 28th, 2008, 05:28 PM saw it already, and i think it looks absolutely great. including the spire i would say it can reach 500m or more
Gaeus May 28th, 2008, 05:35 PM This is the CONCEPT design selected for the plot:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2160/imresolt046pf5.jpg
That looks so cool! By the way, What's in the center?
Woozy May 28th, 2008, 05:42 PM WOOOOOOOW!!!!! They better build that^^^^^
Its even got a laser light show right down the middle!...or whatever it is
Densetsu May 28th, 2008, 06:07 PM They should forget the proposed designs and build the concept design. The spiral spire is amazing. :eek:
theworldshallcry May 28th, 2008, 09:49 PM That looks so cool! By the way, What's in the center?
It's an aurora borealis generator.
Gaeus May 29th, 2008, 04:15 AM It's an aurora borealis generator.
I never heard of it. Don't tell me Al Gore invented it. Probably he is? hmmm...:|
TU 'cane May 29th, 2008, 04:21 AM Off topic but I think we will soon start seeing Dubai for a setting in video games. Looking at that pic stewie1980 posted, it reminds me of Halo or something. lol.. It's becoming an ever more popular city with all these interesting projects.
TruLoki May 29th, 2008, 04:47 AM Off topic but I think we will soon start seeing Dubai for a setting in video games. Looking at that pic stewie1980 posted, it reminds me of Halo or something. lol.. It's becoming an ever more popular city with all these interesting projects.
There is a rumor that a new Spec Ops game is set in Dubai
UAE_isthebest May 29th, 2008, 08:10 AM I really like the first tower on page 1. It would be a great tower for Dubai but I think it's also a nice tower for New York ;)
rgarrison May 29th, 2008, 01:36 PM Id like it better without the energy beam in the center
Alle May 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM I never heard of it. Don't tell me Al Gore invented it. Probably he is? hmmm...:|
Of course, the internet, bill clinton, ive heard he even invented CO2 caused global climate fluctuations :lol: .
israma May 30th, 2008, 11:47 AM :banana:
Infrasuper Planet May 30th, 2008, 03:44 PM So do we know where the plots for these towers will be?
AltinD May 31st, 2008, 12:29 AM ^^ Yes we know, and the location should be shown on the first posts of this thread.
Mr. Met May 31st, 2008, 12:33 AM I like the split towers
choyak May 31st, 2008, 09:21 AM The 'concept design' with the elevated spire looks like someone sent Moscow's Federation Towers through a defective telepod (the fly movie)!!!
This design is the coolest and most innovative IMHO. The 1st one still looks like irobot tower with huge spire although the spire needs to be that tall or the building appears stunted. The tumormonger would make me vomit if I see it in real life and the other weird one is just not meant to be there. The 'Civic Art' is the most realistic of them without any weirdnesses. I would even conjecture that something similar already exists somewhere. The 'lighthouse tower' looks alot like 'the index' but the top is different.
I would go with the 'concept design' I love how the spire seems to be elevated
AltinD May 31st, 2008, 07:38 PM What are some of you talking about? Concept Design means just that, that it is still a concept and not finalized. :lol:
There is no Architectural Studio called "Concept". I capitalized it just to point out that the design is not final and it should be taken only as reference.
malec August 14th, 2008, 12:34 PM Another proposal.
This is in a recent article but the proposal may be an old one. It doesn't agree with the article posted a few months ago.
http://i38.tinypic.com/53uz5s.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/v6j05c.jpg
Property weekly 14/8/08 page 74
Densetsu August 14th, 2008, 12:45 PM Comperated to Rose Rotana Tower this is like 550 meters tall! Pretty heigh.
booboomoneta August 14th, 2008, 12:46 PM It looks very femiliar to the proposal of shanghai center
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/z0rgggg/sg-37G.jpg
MKTJ August 14th, 2008, 12:54 PM what is the name of the other supertall on the left ????
is that a new supertall ?????
malec August 14th, 2008, 12:56 PM That's the lighthouse tower. Although I don't think it'll be that skinny in real life
Zicyx August 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM what is the name of the other supertall on the left ????
is that a new supertall ?????
That is the lighthouse tower. I think that one will be under construction soon. The tower has 3 windmills in the top for power.
MKTJ August 14th, 2008, 01:02 PM That's the lighthouse tower. Although I don't think it'll be that skinny in real life
you sure ?!!! i mean the lighthouse tower is not too skinny like this one !
Zicyx August 14th, 2008, 01:12 PM you sure ?!!! i mean the lighthouse tower is not too skinny like this one !
You see the tower here from it's skinny site.
no_gods August 14th, 2008, 02:15 PM wow, it look better than the others projects. :)
It's a a garden on the top?
Woozy August 14th, 2008, 03:30 PM Awesome design! Shanghai Center looks better though.
helghast August 14th, 2008, 03:52 PM Comperated to Rose Rotana Tower this is like 550 meters tall! Pretty heigh.
its more like 450m, because if thats lighthouse tower to the left thats 400m so u get an Est of 450m~ too 465m~
ZZ-II August 14th, 2008, 04:23 PM i would also estimate it to 500m, or maybe a bit more
Dequal August 14th, 2008, 05:59 PM No official name yet for this construction?
helghast August 14th, 2008, 07:17 PM ^^there still in the design process
Dequal August 14th, 2008, 07:32 PM ^^there still in the design process
I know. :) But it could be possible that there was already a name for it, isn't it?
MKTJ August 14th, 2008, 07:36 PM the design thing of this tower really took alot of time ...
helghast August 14th, 2008, 07:37 PM if there was a name for it, it would be posted here. this is the # 1 place for info on tall buildings. just come here once in a while and sooner or later u will see a name
Asunarocks August 15th, 2008, 05:07 PM I guess it must vary from building to building but could someone provide an educated guess as to when this might start construction? Are we looking at fairly quick about 2 years or more like 8-10 years?
Tounsi August 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM NoW i got It !!
I saw the last design on the Dubai's thread and I did not recall seeing it before . So the DIFC will have at least 5 supertalls ( correct me if i m wrong) and by far this is the best proposal so far .!!
Buyckske Ruben August 15th, 2008, 10:07 PM http://i36.tinypic.com/v6j05c.jpg
Welcome in the year 2100! :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
Crazy futuristic stuff, no words for this skyline :cheers:.
Rutger1991 August 15th, 2008, 10:27 PM :omg: WOW, that looks impressive!!!! ^^
:nuts::nuts::nuts:
malec August 16th, 2008, 01:23 AM I guess it must vary from building to building but could someone provide an educated guess as to when this might start construction? Are we looking at fairly quick about 2 years or more like 8-10 years?
I think 2 years start is about right
Asunarocks August 16th, 2008, 02:19 AM I think 2 years start is about right
Thank you :) I hope it is about 2 years I really like this design and it will be great to watch it get built and see it completed.
zander0501 August 21st, 2008, 10:39 PM 1. Nice, but this Design should placed at SZR, then 70/100 :dunno:
2. No comment, it´s too ugly for the UAE 0/100
:banned:
3. nice Design, especially the 4-Foots of the Towerdesign
are great, the Site Location is made for some
spectacular Tower like this, i love those colourful
Illumination. 95/100
:banana2::bow::banana2::bow:
4. Not very bad, not very good 50/100
:crazy2:
5. Great Design, but the both Towers should have the
same Height and add two or 3 mor Connections
between the Towers, then i rate it a full 100/100
:bow::banana2::bow::banana2::bow:
buildmilehightower August 21st, 2008, 10:48 PM Top half of this tower resembles:
http://img92.exs.cx/img92/4618/busanlottetower7zz.jpg
lotte super tower (Busan)
emagdnim August 22nd, 2008, 08:48 AM first one, SZR is on the way to becoming the skyscraper avenue of dreams
Dequal August 22nd, 2008, 01:54 PM first one, SZR is on the way to becoming the skyscraper avenue of dreams
Exactly. And Dubai Marina a beautiful skyscraper cluster. (I hope)
AltinD September 6th, 2008, 01:24 AM JUST ACCROSS THE STREET!!!
http://www.alec.ae/Uploads/Images//DIFC%20Perspective_01.jpg
http://www.alec.ae/Uploads/Images//DIFC%20Perspective_02%20(2).jpg
17.07.08 - ALEC awarded DIFC contract
The design and construct contract for a mixed use development in the Dubai International Finance Centre has been awarded to ALEC by our partner Al Jaber on the 17th of July.
#1 Park Avenue is a 400m+ mixed use high rise development comprising commercial, residential and a 5+ Star hotel with retail/F&B throughout. The operator of the 5 Star hotel is yet to be announced and will be located in the upper portion of the building. The lower podium areas will contain numerous retail and F&B outlets which will be accessible via bridge connections from the surrounding area.
Bulk earth works will begin in November 2008 and structure is planned to start by January 2010. Total site area is 18,381m2 and project GFA is approximately 285,000m2. Project completion is being targeted for mid 2013.
http://www.alec.ae/newsdetail.asp?uri=31&s=7
... a different one :banana::banana:
european September 6th, 2008, 02:02 AM wow really nice tower
Woozy September 6th, 2008, 02:26 AM HOT DAMN! DIFC is going to be one of the most impressive areas in Dubai!
MKTJ September 6th, 2008, 02:29 AM very nice design ...
but where is the location exactly ???
tacall September 6th, 2008, 05:52 AM I love that!!
ZZ-II September 6th, 2008, 02:14 PM not bad, but the twisting one was much better
malec September 6th, 2008, 06:10 PM ^^ That is a different tower, but it's just across the road
ZZ-II September 6th, 2008, 07:58 PM ah ok, but part of the DIFC or?
malec September 6th, 2008, 08:02 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=703022
:)
malec September 6th, 2008, 08:05 PM By the way, a forumer (Opus 2009) went into the gate building recently and saw a model of the whole complex. He said the circular tower was there and not the twin towers that were supposed to have won the design so hopefully that one will be built!
bizzybonita September 12th, 2008, 10:20 PM http://i35.tinypic.com/14t07cl.jpg
Densetsu September 13th, 2008, 08:32 AM ^^There are still lots of plots to build tall and beautiful towers. :D
Dequal September 13th, 2008, 11:30 AM Yup. Dubai will be an architectural paradise in 10 years.
johnvill September 15th, 2008, 08:06 AM both doesnt look good ..
bizzybonita September 16th, 2008, 01:02 AM why not?Reasons?what your'e suggestion on that ?
malec November 2nd, 2008, 12:36 PM Nothing on site yet
From Nader on Picasa
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2734/helicoptertour01nov0812bg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/helicoptertour01nov0812bg5.jpg/1/w1600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img389/helicoptertour01nov0812bg5.jpg/1/)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7056/helicoptertour01nov0812ed4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/helicoptertour01nov0812ed4.jpg/1/w1600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img517/helicoptertour01nov0812ed4.jpg/1/)
AltinD November 2nd, 2008, 01:22 PM ... the empty space on the left of Ritz Carlton Hotel and behind Rose Tower (in case someone asks where it will be)
AltinD November 2nd, 2008, 01:24 PM BTW the empty plot at the bottom center of the pic is the site for 350 - 400 meters tall One Park Avenue (the one with the helipad on top)
WiGgLz01 January 20th, 2010, 02:58 AM GO NORR INTERNATIONAL!!!
helghast January 20th, 2010, 04:13 AM you just bump the thread just to say that ?
WiGgLz01 January 20th, 2010, 06:13 AM Ooops...
I quick posted from page 1 so I didn't know that this was one from a long time ago...
gdipasqu November 30th, 2011, 10:53 PM What's up ?
KillerZavatar December 1st, 2011, 02:41 PM What's up ?
stop bumping old threads, this one is pretty dead
no_gods December 2nd, 2011, 09:21 PM What's up ?
As dead as Dubai
maxer January 9th, 2012, 07:56 PM Approved or not?
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