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CULWULLA July 26th, 2010, 11:51 PM now that the core has locked in at lev38, corebox =142m ,which is exact height of Guys tower.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/4831728517_13a01b5d87_o.jpg
Andre_idol July 27th, 2010, 04:36 AM That cladding...oh that cladding :drool:
PortoNuts July 27th, 2010, 12:16 PM So has is this finally overtaken Guy's? :banana:
droneriot July 27th, 2010, 12:17 PM If Culwulla's diagram is correct there are still 60 centimeters missing.
K.S.A July 27th, 2010, 12:52 PM ^^
thank you CULWULLA
tonyoz July 27th, 2010, 12:54 PM England not have 300m lol but then can :goodbye:
Viperfreak2 July 27th, 2010, 01:38 PM Any speculation on the window washing method?
jhalsey July 27th, 2010, 01:50 PM How much nicer it would be if the Shard was on the river front and not hidden behind those rather ugly low buildings - maybe time for some more demolitions?
filipu94 July 27th, 2010, 02:06 PM Make sure you take some photos for us! :)
It's one of my compulsory points ;) Hope I'll have a chance.
Nice new shoots!
PortoNuts July 27th, 2010, 03:07 PM This building will be a star in sunny days, shinning from the top to the base.
Parisian Girl July 27th, 2010, 06:34 PM Wow, the cladding looks beautiful. I love how transparent it is. Can't imagine how good it will look - even from far away - in the London skyline once it's completed. :cheers2:
googledpeakoil July 27th, 2010, 06:38 PM now that the core has locked in at lev38, corebox =142m ,which is exact height of Guys tower.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/4831728517_13a01b5d87_o.jpg
still 3 floors missing in the diagram... 1 in the hotel section, 2 in the apartment section.
chest July 28th, 2010, 12:20 AM http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000213.jpg
spectre000 July 28th, 2010, 12:52 AM ^^ Great shot! I love how this tower will just dominate the neighborhood. Maybe the Empire State Building of London.
scalatrava89 July 28th, 2010, 01:06 AM Well she's only 10m shorter than The Chrysler Building, so not far off the New York greats :).
Mascalzone July 28th, 2010, 02:44 AM New European tallest, am I right?
JackM July 28th, 2010, 03:02 AM Will be the tallest in the European Union upon completion, not in Europe though, thanks to those pesky Russians and their towers.
droneriot July 28th, 2010, 09:21 AM Actually it will most likely be the tallest in Europe upon completion, since I believe it will top out/finish long before Moscow's Mercury City Tower.
no_gods July 28th, 2010, 01:16 PM nice pic chest
El_Greco July 28th, 2010, 07:55 PM http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Cycle2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Cycle3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Cycle4.jpg
chest July 28th, 2010, 11:29 PM from Hamstead Heath
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1040468.jpg
Robd July 28th, 2010, 11:41 PM http://i30.************/2crmrti.jpghttp://i30.************/20ppmpx.jpg
Shard was looking good early this morning as part of the London skyline. Shame the wind wasnt blowing the balloon towards it :-(
Bob! July 29th, 2010, 12:29 AM The first picture is truly amazing, mate! :applause:
Cadillac July 29th, 2010, 01:16 AM Will be the tallest in the European Union upon completion, not in Europe though, thanks to those pesky Russians and their towers.
hahaha :lol:
percy07 July 29th, 2010, 07:23 AM ^^
Great photographs Robd!
What is that awful thing that resembles a cheese grater with finger holes in the handle?
Rise To The Top July 29th, 2010, 09:44 AM ^^
Great photographs Robd!
What is that awful thing that resembles a cheese grater with finger holes in the handle?
A building that was just recently completed... obviously you guys don't read the lesser forums.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strata_%28building%29
tonyoz July 29th, 2010, 09:51 AM Strata look good funny mankind for that ;)
Eastern37 July 29th, 2010, 11:07 AM The strata looks great, it just needed to be built closer to the cbd.....
Mikey July 29th, 2010, 08:10 PM So it was taken from a balloon....for a minute I thought it might be from Crystal palace tv mast, until I saw the second pic!
scalatrava89 July 29th, 2010, 09:43 PM I had no idea you could take hot air balloon rides in London (outskirts). It’s a shame the whole skyline is filled by flight paths. Just think of the possibilities!!!
Rite check this out guys, very interesting webcam set up to capture the rise of The Shard. (sorry if this has been posted before)
http://www.theframeworks.com/blog/rise-of-the-shard/
Turbosnail July 29th, 2010, 11:16 PM Shard at sunset this evening
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/turbosnail1/Skylines/shard1.jpg
Follow the webcam here -
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456410
PortoNuts July 30th, 2010, 04:08 AM by chest.
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000247.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000226.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000255.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000260.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000273.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000264.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000252.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000253.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000244.jpg
spectre000 July 30th, 2010, 04:51 AM This one just gets better and better. Really great pictures by chest.
tonyoz July 30th, 2010, 08:44 AM look poster red :nuts:
gayscraper July 30th, 2010, 11:53 AM I think the core is half way done! Should be on 36th floor now! :)
The cladding looks just awesome! It's so shiny :D
This will turn out to be one of my favourite skyscrapers I think :)
googledpeakoil July 30th, 2010, 12:13 PM I see core floor No.37 just begninnig to appear in one of Chest's photos. I think the slow down (1 week from 36-37 appearing) is down to the core reconfiguration.
For those that don't know the concrete core gets thinner somewhere around floor 38,39.
It's going to be interesting to see how much thinner it is when the core climbs past the setback.
Glass looks amazing - I like the way it's super flat so you don't get any bendy reflections!
googledpeakoil July 30th, 2010, 12:14 PM That mini core appears to be on floor 19 or something. I went to the site in June and it was still on floor 6 or something. This must be about the fastest core to ever go up! Ok it's really thin but it's maintained about 3 floors a week!
PortoNuts July 30th, 2010, 08:02 PM The baby core is rising so fast. :yes:
Parisian Girl July 31st, 2010, 05:45 AM Wow, stunning photos! And still 30+ stories to go! This will be immense on completion! :)
cybertect July 31st, 2010, 10:25 AM I've been a bit absent of late... family holiday and then catching up with work when I got back has been keeping me off the Interwebz :)
Anyhow, some pics from Wednesday - more in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard).
St Thomas Street/Bermondsey Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107336-2/20100728_0004.jpg
Gate 2
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107420-2/20100728_0021.jpg
SW Corner
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107498-2/20100728_0039.jpg
An emerging new 'wing' just to the west of the hoist on St Thomas Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107468-2/20100728_0031.jpg
Some glazing details.. NW corner, by the bus station
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107570-2/20100728_0054.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107576-2/20100728_0055.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107540-2/20100728_0049.jpg
Joiner Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107564-2/20100728_0053.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107588-2/20100728_0058.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107642-2/20100728_0072.jpg
That's a test section of marble walling that you can see in the middle of level 2 above
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107618-2/20100728_0065.jpg
Taking a delivery on level 2
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107612-2/20100728_0063.jpg
Eastern37 July 31st, 2010, 11:43 AM Great pics as always cybertect, the marble wall looks interesting ill wait for more to be put up before i judge it :)
scalatrava89 July 31st, 2010, 01:05 PM Nice to have you back cyber and cheers for the pictures. What do you think of the progress? Impressive or what! :)
TallBox July 31st, 2010, 01:52 PM ^^ *right-click, save as*
PortoNuts July 31st, 2010, 03:25 PM Glad your updates are back cyber. :okay:
The cladding is going quickly and always shinier..D
BOTTOM July 31st, 2010, 06:50 PM Here are some pictures I created earlier to (hopefully) help you understand what the building looks like at different angles. If you'd like to see it at another angle just ask me and I'll upload another picture. :)
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3Jh0FfTrnkI/TFQt26ballI/AAAAAAAAAlU/3LxWr46CCVU/s1152/Southwark%20Render%201.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3Jh0FfTrnkI/TFQt6bs5YsI/AAAAAAAAAlY/0R4uF4xnZ5Q/s1152/Southwark%20Render%202.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3Jh0FfTrnkI/TFQt-26g2gI/AAAAAAAAAlc/HxlPc44igKk/s1152/Southwark%20Render%203.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3Jh0FfTrnkI/TFQuDrm1LiI/AAAAAAAAAlg/-9WA4WthahA/s1152/Southwark%20Render%204.jpg
hellrazor650 July 31st, 2010, 07:33 PM this is one of my favorite projects right now, its a great looking building and im sure the completed version will make a lot of londoners proud!
chjbolton July 31st, 2010, 09:10 PM Great job Bottom! :)
Parisian Girl August 1st, 2010, 04:03 AM I'm more and more impressed by those glass panels every day! Just stunning! :)
SEED August 1st, 2010, 10:06 AM i know i said this many times on this thread and the one in the english thread... but.. this is one amazing tower! I like this tower! :cool:
cybertect August 1st, 2010, 01:09 PM Bit of a belated update, but here's a few shots from the Friday before I went away, 16th July. More here (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard/?g2_page=6).
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108020-2/20100716_0113.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107996-2/20100716_0092.jpg
3 shot stitch :)
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107950-2/shard_LBStreet_vpano.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107912-2/20100716_0069.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107906-2/20100716_0066.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107882-2/20100716_0058.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107852-2/20100716_0048.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107846-2/20100716_0047.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107822-2/20100716_0039.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107798-2/20100716_0034.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107792-4/20100716_0032.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107726-2/20100716_0017.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/107702-2/20100716_0013.jpg
PortoNuts August 1st, 2010, 10:28 PM ^^:cheers:
by mitosan.
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-1.jpg
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-3.jpg
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-4.jpg
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-5.jpg
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-6.jpg
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/31072010-shard-7.jpg
droneriot August 1st, 2010, 10:39 PM The Shard, August 2009:
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Shard6Large.jpg
Instant skyscraper. ;)
Rory Stott August 2nd, 2010, 03:32 PM This Project is really cracking on!
Found a website that has lots of renders, I particularly like the ground level renders as they really make it feel real! Also has a nice time lapse video of the construction up to recently
http://www.openbuildings.com/buildings/the-shard-profile-40.html
cybertect August 3rd, 2010, 12:15 AM I just found a few photos that I forgot I took on film during the early phases of demolition back in mid-October 2007 and thought they might be of interest to see how far we've come.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108040-4/20071017_0030_EOS3.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108034-4/20071017_0034_EOS3.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108027-4/20071017_0035_EOS3.jpg
The scans by Snappy Snaps at the time they were developed aren't fabulous - I'll have to see if I can find the negs and re-scan them some time.
filipu94 August 3rd, 2010, 01:15 AM There is 1 part of photos from 2nd August.
Few 'away' photos.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8256/99034215.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/i/99034215.jpg/)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/476/dsc07594c.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/dsc07594c.jpg/)
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6277/dsc07758s.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/dsc07758s.jpg/)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7724/43702054.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/43702054.jpg/)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5843/66006868.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/66006868.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
scalatrava89 August 3rd, 2010, 01:40 AM God it’s changed so much. Looking at the last photo, I’m having trouble getting my bearings. I’m not sure I went to that side when I went back in June. Nice shots Cyber.
11001001 August 3rd, 2010, 01:45 AM What I find really interesting when looking cybertect's last set of photo's is how much our taste has changed. Did the buildings around London Bridge including the station ever look good, did people like them? And in 30 to 40 years time, will we be looking at the Shard in the same way?
sammyjay77 August 3rd, 2010, 03:14 PM Its Getting there.....London needs more of this
PortoNuts August 3rd, 2010, 06:22 PM http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1209/camputer641.jpg
scalatrava89 August 3rd, 2010, 06:35 PM The piggybacks steel is going to shoot up now. Dam shame there’s no webcam down there.
borza August 3rd, 2010, 06:49 PM why do they build the Shard in such ugly neighbourhood?
Newcastle Guy August 3rd, 2010, 07:09 PM So that it won't be an ugly neighborhood anymore.
11001001 August 3rd, 2010, 08:19 PM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4857742230_aa68f6cde0_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4857121465_a80789cfa2_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4857120343_c9aeb015f7_b.jpg
Part of the slip form has now been removed.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4857743400_787fc637b1_b.jpg
And baby core is now connected to the main structure.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4857123087_7273cc7a6b_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4857118561_907a908936_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4857745786_e13046ba04_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4857122581_5949ebb148_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4857123635_590cf1ca7c_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4857741114_afbc0b497d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4857739380_6665943ea7_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4857738332_449bdfc0f1_b.jpg
Really wish Guy's would was them windows!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4857119155_a943ce9511_b.jpg
scalatrava89 August 3rd, 2010, 08:48 PM ‘Oh now I understand’ those white things I could see on the Guy’s webcam are the ties for the TC. They will tie the Crain the core(s). Greats pictures man. The pic showing close up action on the South / East of the steel level is one of the best shots I’ve see in a while, really shows the complexity of the joins
filipu94 August 3rd, 2010, 09:33 PM Sorry guys that I add photos a bit late. But, you know, London is the city of busy people :D
Second part
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6712/83944298.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1553/63302463.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7510/33180327.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2135/42895299.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/338/18002862.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6884/79377279.jpg
By the way I really enjoy my time here and I think this city is one of the best places I've ever visited.
filipu94 August 3rd, 2010, 09:57 PM And it is last, third part of the photos.
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4547/89836391.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1471/93527443.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/867/46272226.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3373/77589155.jpg
Photo made from The Monument.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1381/71937302.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4300/95429261.jpg
Hope that you enjoyed them a bit:)
percy07 August 3rd, 2010, 10:22 PM I love this one! It really shows just how flawlessly flat the glass is - Stunning!
Thanks for the great photos Filipu. :)
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2135/42895299.jpg
droneriot August 3rd, 2010, 10:44 PM That's a lot of new pictures for one day. All in all, I'm happy that the junior core is topped out and connected to the main structure, because I like big, noticeable steps. ;)
PortoNuts August 3rd, 2010, 10:47 PM Thanks everybody for the wonderful updates :cheers1:
It's good to see big chunks of cladding now, it will certainly look fantastic.
PortoNuts August 4th, 2010, 12:38 AM Btw, the core setback must be happening really soon.
googledpeakoil August 4th, 2010, 01:37 PM Btw, the core setback must be happening really soon.
I imagine they're working on it (they seem to be stuck around 36-37 for quite a while now) - but we can't see it until the climbing system and black canvas move up to 2 floors above the setback.
On the cams the floorplates already look pretty narrow:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456410
and they're going to get a lot narrower as they go up.
I read the incline is 6 degrees from the vertical. If I was any good at trigonometry I'd be able to figure out how much narrower the building gets for each 10 metres it climbs. Anyone care to do the maths?
And has anyone found a site that has more floorplans?
Somebody posted 2 (from near the top given how narrow it is) back on page 61:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=61
googledpeakoil August 4th, 2010, 01:46 PM Great updates everyone!
percy07 August 4th, 2010, 03:02 PM I read the incline is 6 degrees from the vertical. If I was any good at trigonometry I'd be able to figure out how much narrower the building gets for each 10 metres it climbs. Anyone care to do the maths?
Perhaps Culwulla could confirm this, since his diagram is fairly accurate. :)
DocShergar August 4th, 2010, 04:11 PM Clearly visible from the train coming out of Victoria.
I was going to get a picture but didnt get the phone out in time on the way in to Victoria then sat on the wrong side of the train going home :ohno:
Ricksterm August 4th, 2010, 04:49 PM I am really enjoying seeing the pictures of this building going up, Thank you for sharing them. The glass is phenomenally smooth.
I do kinda feel that is is a little shame that the building is not going to be as tall as the Empire State Building in New York City (1453 ft including comms tower on roof, 1250 ft at the 102nd floor) I think surpassing that height and amount of floors will be the next big step for London, but maybe a little belated. Maybe we will see that within the next 20 years as London is beginning to go more upwards rather than outwards. :colgate:
Supertall Robbo August 4th, 2010, 06:23 PM why are there 2 threads for the shard?
here is the other one
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=407549
Tubeman August 4th, 2010, 06:38 PM why are there 2 threads for the shard?
here is the other one
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=407549
International supertall forum and local UK construction forum
Totally standard for major projects on ssc to have 2 separate threads in separate sections... Only just realised?!
11001001 August 4th, 2010, 06:43 PM Won't they have to take down the current slip form or at least on two of the sides before it can start moving up again?
eddyk August 4th, 2010, 06:52 PM why are there 2 threads for the shard?
here is the other one
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=407549
Well spotted
scalatrava89 August 4th, 2010, 07:23 PM International supertall forum and local UK construction forum
Only just realised?! :lol:
To be honest Supertall they’re pretty much the same. The only major difference is where you find them. I added the ‘Threads Tagged with london’ http://www.skyscrapercity.com/tags.php?tag=london to my favourites list and just mainly work off that. Much easier to access both the Shard threads plus all the other London ones.
JackM August 4th, 2010, 09:17 PM I read the incline is 6 degrees from the vertical. If I was any good at trigonometry I'd be able to figure out how much narrower the building gets for each 10 metres it climbs. Anyone care to do the maths?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418897&page=61
Well, if i remember how to do maths then If i draw a triangle with a height of 10cm and an angle of 6 degrees at the top, the width of the triangle should be how much narrower it gets.
Anyway, I won't bore you with the trigonometry, I worked it out to be 1.05m. Does that sound about right?
potto August 4th, 2010, 09:57 PM distant shot from Greenwich
http://67.202.71.95/images/609366shard-12.jpg
MattTheTubaGuy August 4th, 2010, 10:38 PM yep, 1.05m
(1.05m = 10m * tan(6 degrees))
using this method, and assuming a point on the top, the base is 65m wide (it would actually be wider).
that glass sure is very flat!:nuts:
googledpeakoil August 5th, 2010, 12:09 PM I am really enjoying seeing the pictures of this building going up, Thank you for sharing them. The glass is phenomenally smooth.
I do kinda feel that is is a little shame that the building is not going to be as tall as the Empire State Building in New York City (1453 ft including comms tower on roof, 1250 ft at the 102nd floor) I think surpassing that height and amount of floors will be the next big step for London, but maybe a little belated. Maybe we will see that within the next 20 years as London is beginning to go more upwards rather than outwards. :colgate:
Prince Charles or some other busy-body will surely object (if it's built near the centre of London). The reason in fact that Canary Wharf and the surrounding Docklands area was redeveloped in the late 80s was because of all the objections (and lack of space) for any kind of new office development in London. Lots of people claim views of St Pauls from Hyde Park and views of X from X as sacred - so blocking development in most places. I think this Shard was delayed more than 5 years because of these kind of problmes... there's always problems like this with planning in the UK! That's why the UK has so few wind turbines compared with Denmark, Germany, Portugal, etc. The UK is at about 2% of energy from wind - while the above countries are between 10-15%. The UK only leads the way in more expensive offshore wind - luckily we're an island... but I digress!
googledpeakoil August 5th, 2010, 01:57 PM I see on the webcam that the construction lift girders have got taller - there's 2 prongs that have risen up above that black climbing formwork... based on past history this seems to happen before the formwork rises. So maybe in a few days we'll see the core setback. From a pic I saw on the other thread (god knows why we have 2 threads!) I think the only side that won't setback is the side with the construction lifts - which of course would make sense!
I imagine those lifts don't go from the formwork all the way to the ground - they must remove the bottom bit each time they pour a new floor. Is that right?
PortoNuts August 5th, 2010, 11:25 PM Has the 'baby core' topped out?
droneriot August 6th, 2010, 12:04 AM Here's what the top looked like on August 3rd:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4857745786_e13046ba04_b.jpg
cybertect August 6th, 2010, 10:33 AM Some images from yesterday. Customary pointer to my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard) for more photos not posted here.
BTW, as I've just upgraded my server, I'm interested to know if it's made any difference to the speed my pics come up as there have been comments about sluggishness in the past.
North side crane tie-back
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108349-2/20100805_0079.jpg
NW corner glazing
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108307-2/20100805_0056.jpg
Fitting a glazing panel at the NW corner
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108337-2/20100805_0077.jpg
SW corner from the pedestrian bridge
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108259-2/20100805_0045.jpg
Development of the 'wing' adjacent to the hoist on St Thomas Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108211-2/20100805_0036.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108295-2/20100805_0053.jpg
Fitting a corner glazing panel above Gate 2
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108139-2/20100805_0020.jpg
New steel between the main building and the backpack by Gate 2
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108175-2/20100805_0027.jpg
A pretty photo of some cranes, just because... :)
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108157-2/20100805_0024.jpg
Secondary core topped out
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108193-2/20100805_0032.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108097-2/20100805_0009.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108121-2/20100805_0015.jpg
Shard Holding Area
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108109-2/20100805_0013.jpg
The view from Tower Bridge
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108085-2/20100805_0003.jpg
AUTOTHRILL August 6th, 2010, 12:50 PM Is it even halfway up yet? It going to be a monster that will contrast so nicely with tower bridge...and for once it might bring tourists flocking to the southbank! Ah so glad this is going up after all these years of uncertainty... And god that Glass is quality!! This really is going to be the Empire State Building of London... I personally think the only more important project for it's city being built now to rival this is the WTC... this iis just a massive breakthrough for London!!!! Unbelievable
googledpeakoil August 6th, 2010, 01:28 PM I posted this on the other thread... but as people were asking here about when the core will setback I thought it deserved posting here too!...
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/core2.jpg
If you look at this image. In section 3. On the corner facing us, left edge you will see the last 4 levels (at full width) have holes for entry to the lift block. On the right side are 2 gaps.
These correspond exactly with the photos of the last 2 floors of the core that are visible now.
This is DEFINITELY the last floors of the core at full size visible now! As soon as the formwork goes up we'll see the thinner core.
Compare it with this photo from flicker - and all the funny holes match exactly:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4857738332_449bdfc0f1_b.jpg
I'm sure that diagram is super-accurate based on this - and we're going to see the core setback on 3 sides at the next floor... from Guy's tower where this is taken - the only floor that won't setback is the one facing the river! Do folks agree?
FYI - The mini tower is definately in the bottom right corner of this photo (just below camera and below the crane) - so that lines up correct too :)
googledpeakoil August 6th, 2010, 01:36 PM Based on that blue schematic diagram above (which seems to match what's being built) I figure we have: 37 full width floors (last one visible in that image above) currently.
- 15 in the next setback (allthough the setbacks aren't quite even as one side sets back one floor later)
- 15 in the one after that
- then 3 in the top bit
= 70 concrete floors total.
Atmosphere August 6th, 2010, 02:27 PM I've gathered almost a year of webcam pics now :banana:
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PortoNuts August 6th, 2010, 05:20 PM Excellent work! :applause:
I love that part when the core had stopped growing for a few weeks and then suddenly jumps a number of floors.
Eastern37 August 7th, 2010, 12:31 AM Great video :applause:
11001001 August 7th, 2010, 12:44 AM http://a.imageshack.us/img823/4584/shard93.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img714/8206/shard97n.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img844/1788/shard92.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img833/1650/shard90.jpg
Very large nuts and bolts!
http://a.imageshack.us/img844/1390/shard89.jpg
Guy's add 20m to keep up with the Jones's
http://a.imageshack.us/img826/9089/shard91.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img203/3765/shard88.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img844/264/shard87.jpg
End caps on.
http://a.imageshack.us/img826/6774/shard86.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img826/7148/shard85.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img844/5575/shard84.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img153/5348/shard83.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img153/9172/shard82.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img833/4595/shard78.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img826/8674/shard81.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img203/1467/shard80.jpg
Newcastle Guy August 7th, 2010, 01:14 AM Thanks for the pictures. The cladding really is sublime.
11001001 August 7th, 2010, 01:19 AM Thanks for the pictures. The cladding really is sublime.
You're very welcome! I'm very lucky to be working right next door! :)
Parisian Girl August 7th, 2010, 03:00 AM Amazing how far they've come in just a few short months. :cheers:
percy07 August 7th, 2010, 11:50 AM The cladding really is sublime.
Someone's been watching Gordon Ramsay :lol:
Great time lapse, Atmosphere, that is some dedication getting all those webcam shots. :)
pixel2008 August 7th, 2010, 12:38 PM It looks like the only ugly thing about the Shard is the reflection of that concrete hospital it gets on its glass.
jak3m August 7th, 2010, 02:56 PM The glass looks amazing! and that time lapse video is excellent.
I think Guys Hospital would look better with a new facade or even just a clean up, but obviously the NHS hasnt got money for this.
Guys is a good example of Brutalist architecture and London is full of Brutalist buildings so maybe it shouldnt be renovated, but I'm sure the Shard will outshine Guys Hospital.
PortoNuts August 7th, 2010, 03:39 PM The cladding is stunning! I'm looking forward to see this building at night, with hundreds of lights on under this crystal cladding.
LAYZIEDOGG August 7th, 2010, 03:58 PM I've gathered almost a year of webcam pics now :banana:
Nice vid. I think the webcam needs a new angle :)
SingaporeCity August 7th, 2010, 04:01 PM This is super massive, nice!
MK Tom August 7th, 2010, 09:00 PM I made my first ever visit to the Shard today! Below are some photos from my maiden viewing...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs126.ash2/39628_10150224943175034_841240033_13850859_230834_n.jpg
Seen from the platforms at London Bridge station.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs243.snc4/39512_10150224946945034_841240033_13850940_300789_n.jpg
Guy's, reflected in the Shard's new cladding.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs117.ash2/39178_10150224944975034_841240033_13850912_4628463_n.jpg
No picture can truly describe how imposing and impressive the building is, and it's not even at half height yet...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs107.ash2/38675_10150224948225034_841240033_13850955_5487741_n.jpg
A comparison between Shard and Guy's, as though there were a comparison. I never minded Guy's in pictures, but in person I was alarmed by just how filthy it looked...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs107.ash2/38675_10150224948230034_841240033_13850956_281103_n.jpg
Seen from the road up to the front of London Bridge station. This is IMO the most impressive angle to hit it from.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs310.snc4/40863_10150224951455034_841240033_13851076_4208614_n.jpg
Finally, a view from Cannon Street station. Here I experienced my first true interruption from station security, something that I don't get as much as you'd expect for a railway enthusiast. After I went and spoke to the station manager the matter was settled surprisingly quickly! :bash:
Hope you enjoyed the pictures half as much as I enjoyed being there!
PortoNuts August 8th, 2010, 03:30 AM Some stunning views there!
The last picture gives a bit of an idea of the true scale of this massive beast. :cheers:
chjbolton August 8th, 2010, 05:57 PM When will they reclad the hospital again?
chest August 8th, 2010, 07:21 PM When will they reclad the hospital again?
there are a few plans floating around to reclad the hospital - or at least part of it, though after a flurry of images and small bits of info it all seems to have gone quiet.
chest August 8th, 2010, 07:22 PM the view from Tower Bridge
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/P1000021.jpg
filipu94 August 8th, 2010, 07:31 PM Oh wow, brilliant photo!
I have few shoots from ship-course-trip. I hope I'll add them soon:)
Assemblage23 August 8th, 2010, 08:01 PM Incredible Angle!
I didn't know one can get on top of Tower Bridge
AUTOTHRILL August 8th, 2010, 08:07 PM Jesus guys is looking dirty, but I'm genuinely one of the people who would be gutted if it was reclad/demolished... I reckon in 100+ years people will see how amazing it is...
PortoNuts August 8th, 2010, 08:59 PM Stunning shot! I love the flooring wrapped around the core.
Parisian Girl August 9th, 2010, 01:03 AM Great shot! Gives us a good idea of just how big this building will be at the end.
cybertect August 9th, 2010, 01:19 AM Here's a few behind-the-times shots from June 23rd, taken with one of my film cameras (a Canon A-1) using Ilford FP4+. It took a while to get them developed and scanned.
There's a few more over the couple of pages following this (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard/?g2_page=27) in my Shard Gallery.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108784-2/A101_026.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108778-2/A101_025.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108808-2/A101_030_002.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108832-2/A101_034.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108844-2/A101_036_002.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108850-2/A101_037.jpg
Eastern37 August 9th, 2010, 08:09 AM Jesus guys is looking dirty, but I'm genuinely one of the people who would be gutted if it was reclad/demolished... I reckon in 100+ years people will see how amazing it is...
^^ i dont get why you think that guys is so great, its just a dirty/ugly building ffs!
wjfox August 9th, 2010, 10:48 AM Webcam latest:
http://i33.************/14vlj6p.jpg
andydie August 9th, 2010, 02:44 PM I visited London the past days and visited the site of the Shard construction on the 5th of August. Here are my pictures:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3279.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3280.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3281.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3282.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3283.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3284.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3285.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3286.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3287.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3288.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3289.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3290.jpg
:)
andydie August 9th, 2010, 02:48 PM and part 2:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3291.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3292.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3293.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3294.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3295.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3296.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3297.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3298.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3299.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3300.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3301.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3302.jpg
Its really an awesome project and a great addtion to the London skyline :cheers:
RichW1 August 9th, 2010, 05:08 PM What's with the red framing in the windows, anybody? If it was blue, yes, but the red in those pics is not aesthetically pleasing to a reflective glass and steel structure!
cybertect August 9th, 2010, 05:58 PM As previously discussed, they're the blind boxes (the blinds themselves will be light grey).
I like it. Renzo Piano likes it.
AUTOTHRILL August 9th, 2010, 06:31 PM ^^ i dont get why you think that guys is so great, its just a dirty/ugly building ffs!
Guys is great, It must be the tallest brutalist building in the world! I just think it has a certain charm about it is all, and I now see how impressive it is- peoples opinions change over time, and I reckon one day this building will be treasured!
Plus someone mentioned the only ugly thing about the shard was the reflection of guys in the cladding- well I disagree, I think the crystal glass/ concrete contest very well together! Beauty and the beast! I think the shard us the beast tbh (but a darn good looking beast) :)
uakoops August 9th, 2010, 08:08 PM The cranes will need to jump really soon.....
Project Director August 9th, 2010, 08:10 PM ^^
imagine being taken in at GUYS for a op and your view is the Shard, and its all on the NHS, priceless.:)
CULWULLA August 10th, 2010, 12:41 AM does anyone know what floor corebox is up to? cant see to read it.
thanks
11001001 August 10th, 2010, 12:55 AM does anyone know what floor corebox is up to? cant see to read it.
thanks
Still on 37...:)
bobdobbs August 10th, 2010, 02:02 AM Guys is great, It must be the tallest brutalist building in the world! I just think it has a certain charm about it is all, and I now see how impressive it is- peoples opinions change over time, and I reckon one day this building will be treasured!
But remember its function is a hospital, yet looks like a combination of a tombstone and a communist era prison watch tower!.. its a place to go to die rather than get better!
As an object on paper or in model form, within the era it was built, with the context of a forward looking post war modernism, great!... but as a working hospital in the 21st Century,.. well, the reclad is long overdue and the watch tower needs to go. I hate to say that because I love the diversity of London's architecture, and brutalism clearly has its place (not sure where!), but for me the views of the Shard are ruined by it!
Parisian Girl August 10th, 2010, 03:55 AM Love the clouds reflected on the glass! Thanks for sharing:cheers:
googledpeakoil August 10th, 2010, 01:16 PM Looking at the webcam page - I thought it looked like the core is rising again - and the set backs were visable - can anyone confirm?
This is the webcam page collection - wish it was in higher resolution - and that there was a camera nearer the core!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456410
droneriot August 10th, 2010, 01:21 PM Well, we get high quality updates almost daily anyway, so no need to worry about the webcam's low resolution, we'll see it soon in full quality.
googledpeakoil August 10th, 2010, 04:48 PM I assume this crane has to finish it's work and come down before the building around the mini core can be completed. I'm curious what's inside the mini core? Is it stairs and lift shafts - I can't imagine more than one narrow stair flight and 2 small lifts fitting - and that would be a squeeze! I can't imagine that they'd have this wing of the building without having a means of escape (stairs) there.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/andydie/London%20Shard%20and%20Heron/100_3292.jpg
PortoNuts August 10th, 2010, 05:28 PM Magnificent pictures! :applause:
Will they now start building around the smaller core?
capslock August 10th, 2010, 05:34 PM I like it. Renzo Piano likes it.
You and Renzo eh! What are you like? :lol:
As I also like it, we can agree that all the main movers and shakers are in accord. :cheers:
andydie August 10th, 2010, 06:24 PM Besides the Pictures i also took some video footage of the construction:
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Enjoy :yes:
eddyk August 10th, 2010, 06:47 PM As previously discussed, they're the blind boxes (the blinds themselves will be light grey).
I like it. Renzo Piano likes it.
I was wondering, surely dark grey or even black...would be a better colour.
We have discussed a few times how the blinds being down in a building can ruin the appearance...light blinds only accentuate this surely?
Maybe with the angle of the glass, they will be hardly noticeable as the sky is reflected.
eddyk August 10th, 2010, 07:04 PM http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2134/shard42.jpg
From Tower 42 Yesterday
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8080/shardrender100percentac.jpg
xlchris August 10th, 2010, 07:21 PM This is going so quick!! :o
filipu94 August 10th, 2010, 07:22 PM Eddyk, brilliant shoot!
Is Tower 42 open for public or only offices?
Langur August 10th, 2010, 07:47 PM ^ The top floor bar (Vertigo 42) is open to the public.
PortoNuts August 11th, 2010, 01:35 AM Aren't there complaints from the hospital about the noise? Not that they can do much about it anyway...
Parisian Girl August 11th, 2010, 01:48 AM The patients at Guys have the best seats in the house though! :D
scalatrava89 August 11th, 2010, 02:14 AM ^^ :lol: Too rite. I'd break my own legs just to get in there.
AUTOTHRILL August 11th, 2010, 02:31 AM ^^ : D lol
PortoNuts August 11th, 2010, 03:54 PM by mitosan.
http://www.timporter.net/4skyscrapercity/09082010shard.jpg
wjfox August 11th, 2010, 09:12 PM http://www.willfox.com/photos/skyscrapers/shard/16.jpg
http://www.willfox.com/photos/skyscrapers/shard/17.jpg
http://www.willfox.com/photos/skyscrapers/shard/18.jpg
http://www.willfox.com/photos/skyscrapers/shard/19.jpg
wjfox August 11th, 2010, 11:30 PM A quick video I made this evening -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dmSdrZRKM
Lawrence7 August 12th, 2010, 12:02 AM I took these three photos on Tuesday, August 10th.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/636/img0665copyn.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8254/img0668copy.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/436/img0670copy.jpg
LAYZIEDOGG August 12th, 2010, 01:22 AM How tall is it? Around 140 meters?
Newcastle Guy August 12th, 2010, 02:21 AM Around that yes, though I'm not sure exactly.
11001001 August 12th, 2010, 02:27 AM Just about the same as GT, 143...
Roope E August 12th, 2010, 10:57 AM How tall is it? Around 140 meters?
The final structure should be 306m tall according to OpenBuildings.com
if that's what you are asking for :nuts:
AUTOTHRILL August 12th, 2010, 01:09 PM ^^ he obviously meant the height of the tower right now ;)
Viperfreak2 August 12th, 2010, 02:46 PM http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/636/img0665copyn.jpg
What will the windows look like where the two different angles come together?
eddyk August 12th, 2010, 03:11 PM Fab?
This tower actually has 6 sides which IMO makes for a much better looking tower than say if it was a 4 sided pyramid.
venom6 August 13th, 2010, 10:30 AM Great pictures you guys share here! Thank you! Its great to see how the tower is growing. I will have to visit London in 2012 :)
googledpeakoil August 13th, 2010, 02:03 PM [QUOTE=Lawrence7;61832251]I took these three photos on Tuesday, August 10th.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/636/img0665copyn.jpg
QUOTE]
You can see in these photos you toook (only 1 quoted) that there's a very slight shape change to the floorplates on those middle floors - and that they'll stagger the shard's exterior glass differently along this diagonal line. Interesting!
droneriot August 13th, 2010, 02:18 PM I noticed that as well, I'm curious how it'll turn out.
eddyk August 13th, 2010, 05:46 PM http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6687/shardthing.jpg
cybertect August 14th, 2010, 12:27 AM A few pics from Thursday afternoon. More not posted here to be found in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard).
Druid Street, SE1
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108868-2/20100812_0004.jpg
Shard Holding Area, St Thomas Street. With some steel awaiting delivery
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108886-2/20100812_0011.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108880-2/20100812_0010.jpg
Eastern side of the core from St Thomas Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108898-2/20100812_0013.jpg
New glazing above Gate 2
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108940-2/20100812_0021.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108946-2/20100812_0022.jpg
and new steel behind Gate 2 filling in the gap between the main structure and the secondary core
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108952-2/20100812_0024.jpg
Great Maze Pond
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108964-2/20100812_0028.jpg
London Bridge Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109012-2/20100812_0037.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108856-2/20100812_0070.jpg
North side tower crane tie-backs
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109042-2/20100812_0045.jpg
St Thomas Street, the western elevation
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109120-2/20100812_0064.jpg
More steel arriving on St Thomas Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109126-2/20100812_0065.jpg
LAYZIEDOGG August 14th, 2010, 01:07 AM The final structure should be 306m tall according to OpenBuildings.com
if that's what you are asking for :nuts:
No kidding? :weird:
eddyk August 14th, 2010, 01:32 AM The final structure should be 306m tall according to OpenBuildings.com
if that's what you are asking for :nuts:
309.98 meters according to the planning document.
50cm shorter than the US bank tower in LA, the tallest building between Chicago and Beijing. (I think)
london_marcus August 14th, 2010, 02:10 AM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4889014125_c1cf08f584_b.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4889014125_c1cf08f584_b.jpg
scalatrava89 August 14th, 2010, 12:50 PM Has anyone got any idea where those cylindrical steels are going? (cybertect’s last photo)
Pfeuffer August 14th, 2010, 01:39 PM 309.98 meters according to the planning document.
50cm shorter than the US bank tower in LA, the tallest building between Chicago and Beijing. (I think)
bullcrap ! think twice ! or never heard of shanghai e.g. ? :ohno:
PortoNuts August 14th, 2010, 03:19 PM Definitely the best view, from where it looks more massive. Thanks for the update, as usual. ;)
St Thomas Street, the western elevation
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109120-2/20100812_0064.jpg
eddyk August 14th, 2010, 04:03 PM bullcrap ! think twice ! or never heard of shanghai e.g. ? :ohno:
Distance between LA and Beijing - 6257 Miles
Distance between LA and Shanghai - 6499 Miles
Tallest building in Beijing - 330m
Think twice
Pfeuffer August 14th, 2010, 04:26 PM Distance between LA and Beijing - 6257 Miles
Distance between LA and Shanghai - 6499 Miles
Tallest building in Beijing - 330m
Think twice
why now L.A. ! you wrote Chicago ! btw. Shanghai is more east than Beijing !
:ohno:
droneriot August 14th, 2010, 04:39 PM And there's a topped out 330m building in Pyongyang.
El_Greco August 14th, 2010, 05:24 PM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4890474237_2df57b557b_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4890474243_5320f04886_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4890474255_45bfa10f3f_o.jpg
ArrHo August 14th, 2010, 05:39 PM why now L.A. ! you wrote Chicago ! btw. Shanghai is more east than Beijing !
:ohno:
has everyone forgot about New York?:lol:
Pfeuffer August 14th, 2010, 05:46 PM has everyone forgot about New York?:lol:
so you really think that N.Y. is in between Chicago and Asia ?
C´mon ! :ohno:
eddyk August 14th, 2010, 06:01 PM why now L.A. ! you wrote Chicago ! btw. Shanghai is more east than Beijing !
:ohno:
I said the US bank tower in was the tallest building between Chicago and Beijing.
Which I said to give Londoners a sense of how big it actually is.
You're argument was that there is another city in-between LA and Beijing...Shanghai.
When it isn't. It may be more westerly, but it is more southerly as well.
Here are some more lame facts...when completed in early 2012...it'd be the 11th tallest skyscraper in the world not in Asia.
And the 2 tallest building in the world not in America or Asia.
Pfeuffer August 14th, 2010, 06:11 PM I said the US bank tower in was the tallest building between Chicago and Beijing.
Which I said to give Londoners a sense of how big it actually is.
You're argument was that there is another city in-between LA and Beijing...Shanghai.
When it isn't. It may be more westerly, but it is more southerly as well.
Here are some more lame facts...if it was finished right now...it'd be the 11th tallest skyscraper in the world not in Asia.
And the 2 tallest building in the world not in America or Asia.
when you draw a line yes, when you look at the latitude no ! :)
cybertect August 14th, 2010, 07:39 PM when you draw a line yes, when you look at the latitude no ! :)
I suppose if you're looking at it like that, then New York is between Chicago and Beijing, by just over 1°. :D
Pfeuffer August 14th, 2010, 09:13 PM I suppose if you're looking at it like that, then New York is between Chicago and Beijing, by just over 1°. :D
actually I meant longitude not latitude ! :cheers:
ArrHo August 15th, 2010, 02:53 PM so you really think that N.Y. is in between Chicago and Asia ?
C´mon ! :ohno:
I mean if you looked at a map of the world and drew two lines straight down one at chicago and one at asia NY would technically be inbetween, but there again so would dubai and many other supertall bearing cities.
cybertect August 15th, 2010, 04:58 PM I mean if you looked at a map of the world and drew two lines straight down one at chicago and one at asia NY would technically be inbetween, but there again so would dubai and many other supertall bearing cities.
Technically you're right, if you're using a standard projection centred on the Greenwich Meridian. ;)
drew.magoo August 15th, 2010, 05:34 PM Every city is somewhere between every other two cities! What does this mean?!?!? :dunno:
PortoNuts August 15th, 2010, 07:21 PM http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4954/488429384553d58550ccb1.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45801463@N05/4884293845/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7492/4884897788fa13141618b1.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45801463@N05/4884897788/sizes/l/in/photostream/
cybertect August 15th, 2010, 07:37 PM I mean if you looked at a map of the world and drew two lines straight down one at chicago and one at asia NY would technically be inbetween, but there again so would dubai and many other supertall bearing cities.
OK. This (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ORD-PEK) is the shortest distance between Chicago and Beijing - a Great Circle that happens to run nearly over the North Pole.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/scirocco/fun/chicago_beijing.gif
People can make of that what they will.
ArrHo August 16th, 2010, 12:14 AM So thats officially over and done with:lol: back to the Shard, coming along nicely when will the core start growing again?
PortoNuts August 16th, 2010, 04:13 AM ^^I think they are doing the common 'catch up' with the flooring.
Viperfreak2 August 16th, 2010, 02:30 PM Can you imagine the volume of water coming down the faces of the Shard on a rainy day in London? In some of the renders there are areas not protected by overhangs?
**RS** August 16th, 2010, 02:31 PM What is the current height of the Shard?
Viperfreak2 August 16th, 2010, 02:32 PM http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/lbt/base.jpg
PortoNuts August 16th, 2010, 03:38 PM Stunning render :drool:...
googledpeakoil August 16th, 2010, 03:48 PM http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/lbt/base.jpg
Looks stunning - and a big improvement - but I have 2 problems with this render.
1. 2 columns going down the wall at one angle, change and then go inwards, then change direction and go into a bigger column. Structually I can't see that being that clever! That's a hell of a lot of stress on those column joins - and if it's supporting several hundred tons of curtain wall... seems precarious to say the least
2. I can see the water running off that front face like a f***** river onto the people below! It'd be like trying to step behind a waterfall!
googledpeakoil August 16th, 2010, 03:53 PM Ps. checking out the webcams today... and it seems the core still hasn't started rising again... Looking at the youtube videos of construction progress it seemed to show it would be on the 3rd floor after the setback by now. I assume they're working on floor 38 - which is the first or 2nd floor after the setback. So it appears to be a week or so behind 'that' schedule at this stage... which is actually pretty impressive for something built in London on such a tight, small plot. I recall the Burj Dubai ended up running over a year behind it's originally planned opening date... and of course it's still not fully completed... I don't think all apartments have been handed over yet.
RandomNameTag August 16th, 2010, 07:34 PM I recall the Burj Dubai ended up running over a year behind it's originally planned opening date... and of course it's still not fully completed... I don't think all apartments have been handed over yet.
The Burj Khalifa isn't finished yet? Is that why it is still in the U/C forums?
capslock August 16th, 2010, 07:52 PM Can you imagine the volume of water coming down the faces of the Shard on a rainy day in London? In some of the renders there are areas not protected by overhangs?
Never rains in London. That's an evil myth put about by our foreign rivals... probably the French :sly:
jak3m August 16th, 2010, 07:53 PM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4890474237_2df57b557b_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4890474243_5320f04886_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4890474255_45bfa10f3f_o.jpg
Its gonna be huge!!!
:righton::righton::righton::righton:
ArrHo August 16th, 2010, 07:55 PM Looks stunning - and a big improvement - but I have 2 problems with this render.
1. 2 columns going down the wall at one angle, change and then go inwards, then change direction and go into a bigger column. Structually I can't see that being that clever! That's a hell of a lot of stress on those column joins - and if it's supporting several hundred tons of curtain wall... seems precarious to say the least
2. I can see the water running off that front face like a f***** river onto the people below! It'd be like trying to step behind a waterfall!
Maybe they were going for a green water feature, kinda like the WTC waterfalls but more eco friendly. plus it will make the building more interesting on rainy days.:lol:
Cyril August 16th, 2010, 10:24 PM Photo taken last friday in the morning. Such a pity the weather was so bad.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4890330449_365782421a_o.jpg
cybertect August 16th, 2010, 10:31 PM Looks stunning - and a big improvement - but I have 2 problems with this render.
1. 2 columns going down the wall at one angle, change and then go inwards, then change direction and go into a bigger column. Structually I can't see that being that clever! That's a hell of a lot of stress on those column joins - and if it's supporting several hundred tons of curtain wall... seems precarious to say the least
That render has been around a while and is out of date.
The design was changed and the main columns now go all the way to the ground.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109018-2/20100812_0039.jpghttp://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108982-2/20100812_0031.jpg
I'm not sure that rain is going to much more of an issue than, say, at the base of the NatWest Tower/Tower 42.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/68966-4/200711_1639.jpg
Alexriga August 16th, 2010, 11:01 PM nice speed guys, keep em growing ;)
eddyk August 16th, 2010, 11:49 PM From the Hornsey Lane Bridge
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4895811732_cb6252562d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4880240541_4438017f2e_b.jpg
Far right
googledpeakoil August 17th, 2010, 11:58 AM That render has been around a while and is out of date.
The design was changed and the main columns now go all the way to the ground.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109018-2/20100812_0039.jpghttp://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/108982-2/20100812_0031.jpg
I'm not sure that rain is going to much more of an issue than, say, at the base of the NatWest Tower/Tower 42.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/68966-4/200711_1639.jpg
Glad to see they change the columns - IMHO the other design looked a bit too structually complicated. Makes more sense to carry the load in a straight line than round 2 bends!
Wow - impressive photo. Never seen Tower 42 up close like that.
Of course the Shard has a 6 degree slope to the glass so might catch more rain depending on which way the wind was blowing the rain!
PS - it appears to be night time in London - the webcams are stuck again :(
It's actually interesting to see how the weather in London compares to the weather here in Berkshire!
cybertect August 17th, 2010, 01:24 PM Of course the Shard has a 6 degree slope to the glass so might catch more rain depending on which way the wind was blowing the rain!
Flipside of that is that, since the building narrows toward the top, there's less area of glazing upon which to gather water.
PortoNuts August 17th, 2010, 07:31 PM Kone jump lifts help build Shard
The UK’s first Jump lift has been successfully installed in the Shard at London Bridge.
Developed by Kone the self-climbing elevator system provides an alternative to exterior hoists to improve the efficiency and safety of the building’s construction.
The lift functions by using the building’s permanent shaft during the construction phase and moves higher or “jumps” in the shaft as the building gets taller.
It allows shaft construction and lift installations to continue at the higher levels while the lift is operating in the same shaft at the lower levels below a protection deck.
This innovative approach enables the lift shafts to be used to aid construction at the same time as they are fitted out with permanent cars and put into service as construction progresses.
Tony Palgrave, Construction Director for Mace on the Shard, said: “This solution is fundamental to our strategy of transporting people and materials quickly and efficiently to the top of the building and down again in the safest possible way.
“It represents our ongoing commitment to finding ever better ways to deliver this landmark project.”
Michael Williams, Managing Director of Kone UK added: “We work hard to deliver pioneering solutions for clients and it has been a privilege to be involved with Mace on such a significant project as the Shard.
“Kone jump lifts are an innovative solution that improves people and goods flow and speeds up construction. Our team has worked closely with Mace to ensure the installation of the Jump Lifts runs smoothly and enhances the construction process.”
As principal contractor on the Shard, Mace has ensured the delivery programme accommodates the requirements of the Kone jump lifts.
The first lift has capacity for 21 people and 1,600kg in weight and will mainly be used at the Shard for site workers to get up and down the structure. It will initially serve up to level 12 but will eventually extend to level 26.
In total there will be five jump lifts, the largest of which will be equipped to transport 45 people, with a capacity of 3,500kg in weight of people and materials, serving up to level 34.
The lifts will follow the rise of the structure into the London skyline. The highest of the jump lifts will go up to level 66.
Kone is supplying and installing a total of 10 escalators and 36 lifts at the Shard, 13 of these double deck lifts including the five jump lifts.
http://www.constructionenquirer.com/2010/08/16/kone-jump-lifts-help-build-shard/
DocShergar August 17th, 2010, 08:22 PM Here some pictures the wife took when going to and from Guys this afternoon
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3479.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3500.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3481.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3482.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3483.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3484.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3485.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3486.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3491.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3492.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3493.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/DocShergar/IMG_3494.jpg
Newcastle Guy August 17th, 2010, 08:34 PM Cool pics, say thanks to the wife :cheers:
DocShergar August 17th, 2010, 09:52 PM Cool pics, say thanks to the wife :cheers:
She had no idea what it was till i asked her to get some pics. She did good :)
emmgtv989 August 17th, 2010, 11:13 PM She had no idea what it was till i asked her to get some pics. She did good :)
I am impressed by the progress of this amazing structure and have been following the construction since the beginning.
But I am unsure as well of what the second to last photo is a picture of (i.e. what is the smaller second concrete column for?)
LoveAgent. August 18th, 2010, 01:35 AM 5 hours ago...
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PortoNuts August 18th, 2010, 02:37 AM ^^Just love how it overbears its surroundings and it is easily seen from a lot of places. This tower will be the true mascot of the 2012 Olympic Games.:cheers:
CULWULLA August 18th, 2010, 02:51 AM Looks stunning - and a big improvement - but I have 2 problems with this render.
1. 2 columns going down the wall at one angle, change and then go inwards, then change direction and go into a bigger column. Structually I can't see that being that clever! That's a hell of a lot of stress on those column joins - and if it's supporting several hundred tons of curtain wall... seems precarious to say the least
2. I can see the water running off that front face like a f***** river onto the people below! It'd be like trying to step behind a waterfall!
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/lbt/base.jpg
aurora place,sydney has same kan yasuda marble sculpture
http://www.agisoftware.it/arte/5/a/bg/a5u14414.jpg
Draegen August 18th, 2010, 09:53 AM Ooo its got its own balls
SingaporeCity August 18th, 2010, 10:06 AM impressive project, stunning!
googledpeakoil August 18th, 2010, 11:32 AM aurora place,sydney has same kan yasuda marble sculpture
As mentioned on the other thread - those 2 big circular columns (see render above - i'm not quoting that big image!) are not part of the final design (I don't think they would have worked - carrying all that load around those angles!) instead those 4 diagonal's go all the way to the ground.
wjfox August 18th, 2010, 11:54 AM http://i38.************/5n6wir.jpg
droneriot August 18th, 2010, 01:06 PM As mentioned on the other thread - those 2 big circular columns (see render above - i'm not quoting that big image!) are not part of the final design (I don't think they would have worked - carrying all that load around those angles!) instead those 4 diagonal's go all the way to the ground.
He wasn't talking about the columns.
googledpeakoil August 18th, 2010, 01:35 PM He wasn't talking about the columns.
I didn't know anyone was - I was just saying this render is no longer accurate (must be a previous version from a long time ago). Those 2 round columns do not exist in the build.
Viperfreak2 August 18th, 2010, 02:00 PM It was the potential waterfall off the edge of glass in that render we were pointing out. Since the design has obviously changed in that area, maybe they will add a covered area also (or a gutter!)
droneriot August 18th, 2010, 02:51 PM I can see very well what everyone was pointing out. What I cannot understand is why he responded to someone who was talking about the sculpture by talking about the change in the columns.
PortoNuts August 18th, 2010, 11:31 PM by mattomatto.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4904479725_896151f6e8_b.jpg
LoveAgent. August 19th, 2010, 02:06 AM http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwAWPFxjI/AAAAAAAAAnI/-6wfvYLUWfU/s800/DSCN6917.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwBhNjWFI/AAAAAAAAAnM/aRFIJltVQmY/s640/DSCN6920.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwCvCcUSI/AAAAAAAAAnQ/0yHr-UmRymA/s640/DSCN6919.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwDMA5ReI/AAAAAAAAAnU/7UGSQIFLdFE/s800/DSCN6921.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwD5hl8mI/AAAAAAAAAnY/8YtzuhHbipY/s640/DSCN6918.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwEi-BkjI/AAAAAAAAAnc/i_SIodacSWM/s800/DSCN6923.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwFSBf_EI/AAAAAAAAAng/_ycrX_v02_g/s640/DSCN6922.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwHY5VshI/AAAAAAAAAnk/RYzrJGc6MgQ/s800/DSCN6924.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nhbyB8Oav2Y/TGxwIk8ky4I/AAAAAAAAAno/vEILgQOQzA4/s800/DSCN6925.JPG
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Parisian Girl August 19th, 2010, 05:58 AM Great pics! Working on level 38 of the core now it would seem. :)
cybertect August 19th, 2010, 01:55 PM Some pics from yesterday - more not posted here to be found, as usual, in my Shard Gallery (http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/v/architecture/london/shard).
Arty pic from the Shard Holding Area to get started
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109138-2/20100818_0006.jpg
However, the more interesting development is some new external steel that's appeared at the eastern end of the site by Gates 3 and 2.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109186-2/20100818_0015.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109192-2/20100818_0016.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109174-2/20100818_0012.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109204-2/20100818_0020.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109162-2/20100818_0010.jpg
Some more steel up top on the north eastern side of the tower from St Thomas Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109168-2/20100818_0011.jpg
A broad view of the SW corner
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109312-2/20100818_0045.jpg
Ground level concrete structure progress by Gate 1 on St Thomas Street and Joiner Street
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109270-2/20100818_0033.jpg
Further along Joiner Street toward the station - I've an idea this will be the head of an escalator down to ground level for when the pedestrian bridge is gone.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109330-2/20100818_0052.jpg
From the south end of London Bridge
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109396-2/20100818_0079.jpg
and detail of the NW corner from London Bridge Walk
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109384-2/20100818_0071.jpg
NE corner
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109366-2/20100818_0068.jpg
PortoNuts August 19th, 2010, 05:48 PM These walls of glass are superb. :D
Are they starting the work in the baby core then?
droneriot August 19th, 2010, 05:50 PM Are they starting the work in the baby core then?
I'd say the pictures show that they are indeed doing so.
11001001 August 19th, 2010, 06:16 PM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4907927914_8623e43650_b.jpg
Turbosnail August 19th, 2010, 06:46 PM Webcam this evening - just over a tricky piece of steelwork so progress should be pretty quick in the coming week.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/turbosnail1/shard.jpg
cybertect August 19th, 2010, 07:13 PM A couple of views from the Millennium Bridge today
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109420-2/20100819_0024.jpg
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109426-2/20100819_0027.jpg
PortoNuts August 19th, 2010, 08:39 PM I'd say the pictures show that they are indeed doing so.
Good, will this extension will be used as offices or will it have any other function?
burnside August 19th, 2010, 11:56 PM Noticed a mockup photo of the exterior glazing in the SSC 1WTC pages which appears to use a system of beading and fasteners identical to those employed here. Subtle difference in the glass - the Shard being a pale silver, New York's faintly golden.
Turbosnail August 20th, 2010, 07:55 AM Early this morning and the light is a lot different - you can already see throughout the day from this angle how the cladding looks different. It doesn't look very reflective at 6.30 am.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/turbosnail1/shard-1.jpg
droneriot August 20th, 2010, 08:17 AM Well, with the light coming at the cladding at an almost horizontal level, the tilt of the exterior reflects it upwards, so you wouldn't see any light reflection from ground level. But you probably know that and only wanted to illustrate that. Just thought I'd clarify.
Turbosnail August 20th, 2010, 09:16 AM ;)
googledpeakoil August 20th, 2010, 12:47 PM Early this morning and the light is a lot different - you can already see throughout the day from this angle how the cladding looks different. It doesn't look very reflective at 6.30 am.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/turbosnail1/shard-1.jpg
I think it also looks a hell of a lot worse as at this angle it is translucent instead of reflective - and when translucent what we're seeing is the dark concrete and stuff going on with the construction - when the offices are painted and bright it'll look a lot different.
Yes - once the angle you're viewing it at >45 degrees it seems a lot more reflective (especially if the sky is bright). Viewed straight on it looks quite clear and then all we're seeing is a dark construction site.
googledpeakoil August 20th, 2010, 12:50 PM A couple of views from the Millennium Bridge today
Particularly in this 2nd image we can see the floorplate is bigger on the south side, and smallest on the North (river facing) side. With the setback currently being worked on the core will set back on 3 SIDES - the exception being the side facing the river. It will then rise for another 15-20 stories or so before the next set-back. See my annotation below...
And yes - I know the lines don't touch the side of the building - but because the photo was taken at a slight angle - i've "averaged" where the edge of the building is on both sides.
Personally I think the floorplates become ridiculously small for the flats on those floors 55-70? Hence why they can only squeeze in one large one per floor - and in fact, according to a floorplan posted on here. 2 floors is a duplex for ONE APARTMENT!
FYI - the angle of the walls is 6 degrees from the vertical.
http://a.imageshack.us/img825/42/201008190027b.jpg
Eastern37 August 20th, 2010, 01:23 PM Looking good as alsways, its really starting to look tall :)
PortoNuts August 20th, 2010, 11:33 PM Even with the best renders you never know how the actual project will look and fortunately this one is turning out exactly like the renders.:cheers:
Turbosnail August 21st, 2010, 10:35 AM Closer webcam of steel activity
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/turbosnail1/shardclose.jpg
Project Director August 21st, 2010, 01:29 PM I wonder if this is the first MAJOR building that contains no brickwork in LONDON!!!!.
:cheers:PD.
droneriot August 21st, 2010, 02:14 PM I suppose you don't consider any of the skyscrapers in Canary Wharf "major", then?
Gherkin August 21st, 2010, 04:21 PM I wonder if this is the first MAJOR building that contains no brickwork in LONDON!
Are you for real? I thought people weren't this stupid :ohno:
droneriot August 21st, 2010, 04:53 PM Are you for real? I thought people weren't this stupid :ohno:
Around a week or two ago we had a guy (in the "The Torch" thread iirc) saying that nobody actually lives in Dubai, so anything's possible.
Apoc89 August 21st, 2010, 06:40 PM I suppose you don't consider any of the skyscrapers in Canary Wharf "major", then?
Don't forget the City's various skyscrapers(Tower 42, the Gherkin, etc.), Centre Point, the BT Tower, etc.
I guess there are still people who think London is nothing but castles and Victorian terraces. :lol:
london lad August 21st, 2010, 06:57 PM Don't forget the City's various skyscrapers(Tower 42, the Gherkin, etc.), Centre Point, the BT Tower, etc.
I guess there are still people who think London is nothing but castles and Victorian terraces. :lol:
Yes they can generally be seen in Westminster town hall and EH HQ ;)
Atmosphere August 21st, 2010, 07:44 PM ^^ I was thinking that he meant that this was the first building that uses no bricks at all... A lot of buildings (some of which are all glass from the outside) have often little walls of bricks on the inside, later covered with something else....
cybertect August 21st, 2010, 07:55 PM I think you're more likely to find concrete blocks if it's covered up these days, unless it's engineering brick for a specific structural purpose. Quicker and cheaper to build.
And there's some blockwork to be found in the Shard.
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/gallery2/d/109271-2/20100818_0033.jpg
Enhander August 21st, 2010, 09:07 PM Will this be the tallest in Europe?
PortoNuts August 21st, 2010, 09:33 PM The tallest in the EU.
AUTOTHRILL August 22nd, 2010, 03:55 AM If you count Moscow as Europe (which it isn't really IMO) then nope
elcid1911 August 22nd, 2010, 05:50 AM Its starting to look great with all that cladding :)
Project Director August 22nd, 2010, 08:03 AM I suppose you don't consider any of the skyscrapers in Canary Wharf "major", then?
actually, definitly nope, this is the first one. No brickwork is no brickwork.
Eastern37 August 22nd, 2010, 08:20 AM ^^ in the pic that cybertech posted you can clearly see that there is brick work, i dont think that many buildings are built with out some sort of brick work.....
droneriot August 22nd, 2010, 08:24 AM Will this be the tallest in Europe?
It will be indeed be the tallest in Europe, around ten meters taller than City of Capitals in Moscow. It won't be long until the title returns to Moscow though, as the Mercury City Tower is progressing steadily (though just not quite as fast as the Shard.*)
* = Saying that reminded me of the song "Fast as a Shark" by German heavy metal band Accept. "Fast as a Shard" :lol:
borza August 22nd, 2010, 09:19 AM It will be indeed be the tallest in Europe, around ten meters taller than City of Capitals in Moscow. It won't be long until the title returns to Moscow though, as the Mercury City Tower is progressing steadily (though just not quite as fast as the Shard.*)
* = Saying that reminded me of the song "Fast as a Shark" by German heavy metal band Accept. "Fast as a Shard" :lol:
Don't forget that the completion of Eurasia in Moscow can start every moment
droneriot August 22nd, 2010, 09:24 AM What difference would that make?
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