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CrazyAboutCities
March 13th, 2009, 06:34 AM
Whats the progress on this building. I came here a few times before and it was just being approve. I don't know how long ago that was.

They just demolished the building and broke the ground. It is under construction now.

SkyscraperSuperman
March 14th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Hopefully this will be finished in time, and not delayed. :)

twilight_2008
March 14th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Mace take over from Monday so it will be full speed ahead!

Martounet
March 14th, 2009, 03:27 PM
how sensitive you are, you, english people! :lol:

it's authorized not to love the "pyramid" :nuts: personally i like it, but i must say that's a shame skycrapers are built quite anarchically in london.

and Zedferret, i think lots of capitals in the world would love to have a "tv mast" like the eiffel tower... but i understand londiners have hang-ups... :colgate:

SkyscraperSuperman
March 14th, 2009, 04:59 PM
Mace take over from Monday so it will be full speed ahead!

Brilliant! :banana:

Poulpy
March 14th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Very nice tower. Hoppefully, i don't live so far from London, so when the tower will be completed, i'll take the next train!

Zedferret
March 15th, 2009, 01:26 AM
and Zedferret, i think lots of capitals in the world would love to have a "tv mast" like the eiffel tower... but i understand londiners have hang-ups... :colgate:

My comment was a joke reffering to another posters dismissal of the Shard as 'just another pyramid'. I Love the Tour Eiffel, but I wouldn't want anything like it in London.

bamboo stick
March 15th, 2009, 02:13 AM
I think will be a blight on the London skyline - which in my view is already fragmented.

Great building in its own right, however.

Well it's an enormous city, of course the skyline will be fragmented. New York has several skylines across the city.

wjfox
March 16th, 2009, 10:09 AM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cbf878e4-11c9-11de-87b1-0000779fd2ac.html

Shard reaches for the sky amid office sector gloom

By David Fickling

Published: March 16 2009 02:00

Construction of western Europe's tallest building will begin in London today amid the gloomiest market for commercial building in decades, thanks to backing from a group of Qatari banks.

Designed by Renzo Piano, the Shard of Glass will tower 1,016ft above London Bridge station and stand nearly three times as high as St Paul's Cathedral.

The developers hope to avoid comparisons with One Canada Square, which it will overtake as the UK's tallest building when it is completed in 2012. The 800ft centrepiece of Canary Wharf was finished in the depths of the last recession in 1991 but remained part-occupied for most of the 1990s, leading to the collapse of its Canadian developer Olympia & York.

"This will be a landmark building and we've already let out 40 per cent of it," said Bernard Ainsworth, project managing director.

New orders in the non-residential building sector in the three months to the end of January came to just £2bn, compared with £4.1bn in the same period last year, according to recent data from the Office of National Statistics.

By comparison, the development cost of London Bridge Quarter alone is priced at £2bn, with £650m in contracts put out to tender so far.

"This is one of the few shows left in town now," said Chris Cole, chief executive of WSP, the structural engineer on the project.

Financial backing will be provided by a consortium of four Qatari banks - QInvest, Qatar National Bank, Qatari Islamic Bank and Barwa - as well as UK-based property developers Sellar. They came in after European lenders, including Credit Suisse and Hypo Real Estate, withdrew following the onset of the credit crunch in 2007. Hypo was bailed out by Germany's central bank last October.

Construction companies have been focusing on work for the public sector and regulated utilities, with hopes attached to projects such as the Olympics site, Crossrail and the widening of the M25.

But Derek Tordoff, director-general of the British Constructional Steelwork Association, said any stimulus from public projects would be blunted by their comparatively small scale next to the massive but ailing commercial sector.

"Everyone thinks the Olympics is the saviour of the construction industry but there will be more steel going into [the Shard] this year than into the entire Olympics site," he said.

One major public sector client has already bought into the Shard project: Transport for London will lease about 20 per cent of the total floor space, while a Shangri-La hotel will take up another 20 per cent. But the remaining 60 per cent is unlet.

Fears about the outlook for the office rental market meant that most new office projects were being called off, said Bill Page of Jones Lang Lasalle. That gave some hope of a supply-led recovery, although rents fell at double-digit rates last year and, he added, would continue to do so this year and next, before levelling off in 2011 and only starting to rise again in 2012.

"Most people just don't want to develop into this market," he said.

Newcastle Guy
March 16th, 2009, 03:17 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana:

This is going to revolutionize the London skyline!:cheers:

the sock
March 16th, 2009, 08:12 PM
i heard on the radio today that building work starts tomorrow,its the first time ive heard the building being mentioned outside this website , so onwards and upward then .

Onn
March 17th, 2009, 12:57 AM
Great! This is one of my most anticipated upcoming skyscrapers.

RiffRaff
March 17th, 2009, 05:11 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/0e45e12c-0619-11dd-802c-0000779fd2ac.html?_i_referralObject=1060746059&_i_referrer=mrss

FT interview on the shard from the construction site.....

Newcastle Guy
March 17th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Cool! All systems go!:cheers:

CULWULLA
March 18th, 2009, 01:22 AM
couple of questions
the top being 310m.
how high where spire starts? 245m?
how high is observation deck? 230m?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3363381095_9c9be55d55_o.jpg

what are the large floors below spire structure? ob decks?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3363381175_f6550d86e4_o.jpg

juandie
March 18th, 2009, 02:41 AM
amazing building... so beautiful...

McMaster
March 18th, 2009, 02:50 AM
Outstanding !!! :uh:

Shezan
March 18th, 2009, 03:10 AM
amazing tower!

SA BOY
March 18th, 2009, 06:40 AM
great building, wrong location, should be in the city or CW

wjfox
March 18th, 2009, 01:17 PM
couple of questions
the top being 310m.
how high where spire starts? 245m?
how high is observation deck? 230m?

...

what are the large floors below spire structure? ob decks?




Pinnacle height: 310m
Roof height: 306m
Top floor height (observation deck): 244m

Floor layout -

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=25998656&postcount=3645

wjfox
March 18th, 2009, 01:20 PM
great building, wrong location, should be in the city or CW

I couldn't disagree more. The location is perfect - absolutely spot on. This tower will basically complete the regeneration of the South Bank (which includes a major upgrade of one of London's busiest train stations). Plus if you built this in the City, it would be lost amongst the other towers, and Canary Wharf is quite far away from the main tourist areas. Here at London Bridge, it will really stand out - you'll get the full soar and impact of it.

CULWULLA
March 18th, 2009, 01:27 PM
wjfox, i scaled the elevation above and where it says spire --this is the 244m height.
where is 306m roof? the whole top 50m is open frame spire. isnt it?

Gherkin
March 18th, 2009, 02:05 PM
^ I believe there are plant floors between the 244m and the 306m, as shown in the render above. The spires don't start from the roof of the building, but from 244m - effectively wrapping around the plant floors. There is a floor below the 306m that you could walk on, if that's what you're asking.

THis video shows the floors upto 306m:

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I do
March 18th, 2009, 02:08 PM
great news! :cheers:

Newcastle Guy
March 18th, 2009, 02:19 PM
The spire, that appears to be open, actually contains the radiator/plant floors.. to cool the building and sh*t like that. The top floor height is technically 244m, as we don't could the plant floors. As you can see from that closeup though, there are extra floors above that for cooling and stuff.

great building, wrong location, should be in the city or CW

No, it shouldn't.

It's where it needs to be, and it'll form a gateway for the Thames with the Bishopsgate Tower on the other side.

Fei Jie
March 18th, 2009, 03:20 PM
I couldn't disagree more. The location is perfect - absolutely spot on. This tower will basically complete the regeneration of the South Bank (which includes a major upgrade of one of London's busiest train stations). Plus if you built this in the City, it would be lost amongst the other towers, and Canary Wharf is quite far away from the main tourist areas. Here at London Bridge, it will really stand out - you'll get the full soar and impact of it.

But it is totally out of scale...clusters work much better.

wjfox
March 18th, 2009, 03:52 PM
But it is totally out of scale...clusters work much better.

"Totally out of scale" would be 600m+. This is borderline supertall. Not too short, not insanely tall - but just right. This will be London's equivalent of the Eiffel Tower, and I don't hear anyone complaining about that.

Gherkin
March 18th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Culwulla - do these help?


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic5.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic1.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic2.jpg

skyperu34
March 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Looks taller than only 310 meters high. But design is simply beautiful and impressive !

fionapoulsen
March 18th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Design is beautiful. I don't know though how it will fit in London's skyline.

Newcastle Guy
March 18th, 2009, 08:29 PM
But it is totally out of scale...clusters work much better.

Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.

Newcastle Guy
March 18th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Design is beautiful. I don't know though how it will fit in London's skyline.

It's going to totally change the London skyline... It doesn't need to fit in. No supertall would fit in, unless maybe it was built out in Canary Wharf.

bnmaddict
March 18th, 2009, 08:57 PM
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/46TheShard_pic5.jpg


Nice renderings!

It's strange though, it seems on those that there's much more than a 4m difference between the top of the coolers floors and the tip of the spires.

If a floor is about 3.5 to 4m high, it looks like there's about 6 to 8 floor height or 20 to 25m between the top of coolers floors and the tip of the tower. There must be something wrong in the renderings.

jimbo
March 18th, 2009, 09:50 PM
first pile went in yesterday guys. this is a quantum leap forward in terms of London's development.

The other Dude
March 18th, 2009, 11:23 PM
Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.

swiss re also would look much better on its own... but theyre still ruining it :bash:

Newcastle Guy
March 19th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Swiss Re would have looked good on it's own, but it was built in the center of the main district... no chance of it saying so visible forever.

Newcastle Guy
March 19th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Nice renderings!

It's strange though, it seems on those that there's much more than a 4m difference between the top of the coolers floors and the tip of the spires.

If a floor is about 3.5 to 4m high, it looks like there's about 6 to 8 floor height or 20 to 25m between the top of coolers floors and the tip of the tower. There must be something wrong in the renderings.

Yes, the renders are quite confusing. I'm just going off what's officially been said.

Frankly I wouldn't mind the plant floors finishing lower... It would make the top look sharper and more refined IMO, like it does in the renders.

Either way, it doesn't matter:) Fact is this baby is going up, after so bloody long...

CrazyCanuck
March 19th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Just dropping in. This project kind of reminds me of Montparnasse in Paris. Not in its architecture, but in the way it will stand out and also act as a transit hub. This will look amazing from the London Eye.

malec
March 19th, 2009, 12:40 AM
first pile went in yesterday guys. this is a quantum leap forward in terms of London's development.

You know that a quantum leap is actually something very very small right? :)

Zedferret
March 19th, 2009, 12:50 AM
You know that a quantum leap is actually something very very small right? :)

Tell that to Sam Beckett.

Banjalučanin
March 19th, 2009, 01:23 AM
Looks similar to the Russia Tower.

LONDON STAR
March 19th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Yep, mabe the same Architect..

CULWULLA
March 19th, 2009, 02:10 AM
great pics.
ive scaled this elevation and roof = 270m. (above radiator section).

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zth6bd.gif

Newcastle Guy
March 19th, 2009, 03:07 AM
Looks similar to the Russia Tower.

Don't start that again, I think WJFox is probably getting a bit sick of explaining it;)

It wasn't the same architect. This was designed long before the Russia Tower.

Fei Jie
March 19th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Would the Eiffel Tower work better in a cluster?

No, it wouldn't, and this is not the same. It needs room to breathe. If it was obstructed by loads of other buildings, we would be unable to fully admire what will be one of the best skyscrapers in the world.

Come on the Eiffel Tower hardly has the mass of a building and and actually sits as an iconic monument within the city - thee focul point. Somehow it works...look at the future London sky line - where is the focal point?....Canary Wharf Cluster....the City...then the Shard - all so disparate. I mean, how are we meant to read that skyline....? Then you have the London Eye....and where is St Pauls in all of this?

All the great cities have composed skylines: Hong Kong, New York, San Francisco, Singapore....I think Dubai will get there where there is scale in proximity given to the Burj...

DarJoLe
March 19th, 2009, 12:24 PM
London is huge enough to have several clusters, several one off iconic towers, and all manner of different skyline views.

skyscraper100
March 19th, 2009, 12:41 PM
amazing details

buildmilehightower
March 19th, 2009, 02:07 PM
swiss re also would look much better on its own... but theyre still ruining it :bash:

wat u mean on its own? u mean swiss re being around low rises or u mean multiple number of swiss res?

Vodski Bandit
March 19th, 2009, 04:05 PM
It's not called Swiss Re anymore btw guys

The other Dude
March 19th, 2009, 04:47 PM
why should i mean "multiple numbers of swiss res"?

no i mean surrounded by low rises ;-) thats what they should have done, maybe 10 very nice and high skyscrapers all over the centre, but with a lot of space between the towers.
thats how the mixture and contrast between old (low rise) and new (high rise) would have looked the best and most interesting imo. (and you would still have a cluster at canary wharf). thats my suggestion for london, but i dont think that such a decentralised skyline would work anywhere else. it really needs a dense and urban lowrise downtown. mayvbe paris but im strongly against towers in the old parts there...

buildmilehightower
March 19th, 2009, 06:45 PM
It's not called Swiss Re anymore btw guys

what u mean? u mean Gherkin/ or u mean its got a new official name?

Blackpool88
March 19th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Come on the Eiffel Tower hardly has the mass of a building and and actually sits as an iconic monument within the city - thee focul point. Somehow it works...look at the future London sky line - where is the focal point?....Canary Wharf Cluster....the City...then the Shard - all so disparate. I mean, how are we meant to read that skyline....? Then you have the London Eye....and where is St Pauls in all of this?

All the great cities have composed skylines: Hong Kong, New York, San Francisco, Singapore....I think Dubai will get there where there is scale in proximity given to the Burj...

Read the city however you want mate, it will look amazing from any angle.

Zollern
March 19th, 2009, 07:11 PM
what u mean? u mean Gherkin/ or u mean its got a new official name?
You could have done a Google search yourself. In any case the name is now its street address, 30 St Mary Axe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_St_Mary_Axe).

anton92
March 19th, 2009, 08:26 PM
looks a bit like the russia tower :)

Langur
March 19th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Come on the Eiffel Tower hardly has the mass of a building and and actually sits as an iconic monument within the city - thee focul point. Somehow it works...look at the future London sky line - where is the focal point?....Canary Wharf Cluster....the City...then the Shard - all so disparate. I mean, how are we meant to read that skyline....? Then you have the London Eye....and where is St Pauls in all of this?

All the great cities have composed skylines: Hong Kong, New York, San Francisco, Singapore....I think Dubai will get there where there is scale in proximity given to the Burj...Hong Kong's skyline is not "composed" at all. It's a jumble whose balance varies widely according to the viewing angle. The San Francisco and New York skylines are also not composed (though the latter's Downtown will be somewhat composed on completion of the new World Trade Center towers). Of the cities you mention, only Singapore and Paris have skylines that are planned on a city-wide scale. In London we can say that Canary Wharf is very much composed and planned. All the buildings are oriented in the same direction and there's a central trilogy of towers dominated by 1 Canada Square's pyramid. However I doubt Canary Wharf will ever become the focal point of London in terms of skyline or anything else. The focal point of London will always be the city centre. In terms of skyline the Shard works very well. It "answers" the City cluster across the river, and especially the 288m Bishopsgate tower, in much the same way that ICC and IFC2 answer one another across Hong Kong harbour. It also answers and balances the dome of St Paul's and these two will become the most distinctive individual shapes on London's eastwards skyline, contrasting with one another: St Paul's dome is rounder and bulkier but lower, wheras the Shard is wafer thin, pointed, and high. London, like Tokyo, New York, Shanghai, and Hong Kong, will have several focal points on its skyline: in the west there is the duet between Big Ben/Parliament and the London Eye. To the east of the centre will be St Paul's, the City cluster, and the Shard, and on the eastern periphery there's Canary Wharf.

Vodski Bandit
March 19th, 2009, 09:49 PM
looks a bit like the russia tower :)

Oh for goodness sake, gotta just be wind ups now :ohno:

Well said Langur, completely agree. The Shard will work fantastically in a balance with the city cluster, but because of it's tapering slender shape is able to work without actually being in a cluster itself

Vodski Bandit
March 19th, 2009, 09:53 PM
what u mean? u mean Gherkin/ or u mean its got a new official name?

It was called 'Swiss Re' because Swiss Reinsurance owned/occupied the building, but they no longer do (since 2006 or 07 I think). It is '30 St Mary Axe', or obviously more commonly 'the Gherkin'.

Newcastle Guy
March 19th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Oh for goodness sake, gotta just be wind ups now :ohno:

Indeed... Just ignore them.

Luckily, the superior design is the one being built.

Langur
March 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM
It was called 'Swiss Re' because Swiss Reinsurance owned/occupied the building, but they no longer do (since 2006 or 07 I think). It is '30 St Mary Axe', or obviously more commonly 'the Gherkin'.They sold the building in 2007 but they still occupy it. To my knowledge it was never called Swiss Re officially. However it's often named after the company that built it, and that remains its largest occupant.

slamakos
March 20th, 2009, 12:43 AM
veeery nice :)

marrio415
March 20th, 2009, 10:38 PM
Come on the Eiffel Tower hardly has the mass of a building and and actually sits as an iconic monument within the city - thee focul point. Somehow it works...look at the future London sky line - where is the focal point?....Canary Wharf Cluster....the City...then the Shard - all so disparate. I mean, how are we meant to read that skyline....? Then you have the London Eye....and where is St Pauls in all of this?

All the great cities have composed skylines: Hong Kong, New York, San Francisco, Singapore....I think Dubai will get there where there is scale in proximity given to the Burj...

:ohno:^^wheres the focal point in Hong Kong.Where is the Focal point in london lol how many do you want.Have you actually been to london or have you just been looking at pictures.The Shard will have the same impact as the trifel tower.If you think different then your away with the guz gogs(whatever that means lol).And why is it all so desprate having three major points.It's what makes london unique from other cities and not one concentrated cluster like most cities.And if you can't read the skyline from pictures you certainly won't see it in person.I don't think you have thought it through cos i don't think you know much about what London has and is.But if thats how you see it then your on your own mate.

looks a bit like the russia tower :)

Hasn't that been put on hold or even CANCELLED

eddyk
March 21st, 2009, 09:40 AM
The Russia tower has almost certainly been cancelled.

The reason there are 2 skylines in London is simple (I hope it is, because I'm going to talk about it.)

The city was protected behind st pauls from tall towers for a very long time...meanwhile the docklands which was a wasteland was in much need of development. So they decided to stick a few towers there and do the place up.

Due to an economic boom towers were approved in the city also...giving us 2 clusters.

NY even has a flat bit in the middle between downtown and midtown.


http://images.travelpod.com/users/tsargood/round_the_world.1190588880.2-view-empire-state-building.jpg

tony8
March 23rd, 2009, 08:23 PM
Wow! That's totally awesome!

antigoon99
March 23rd, 2009, 08:30 PM
The Russia tower has almost certainly been cancelled.

The reason there are 2 skylines in London is simple (I hope it is, because I'm going to talk about it.)

The city was protected behind st pauls from tall towers for a very long time...meanwhile the docklands which was a wasteland was in much need of development. So they decided to stick a few towers there and do the place up.

Due to an economic boom towers were approved in the city also...giving us 2 clusters.


^^didn't know that, thanks.


NY even has a flat bit in the middle between downtown and midtown.


http://images.travelpod.com/users/tsargood/round_the_world.1190588880.2-view-empire-state-building.jpg

^^you can't compare London and NY :lol:

eddyk
March 25th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Well obviously you missed the point of what I said.

Some geezer said london was lame because it had 2 clusters...and I just posted an image of NY knowing that it too had 2 main clusters.

eddyk
March 25th, 2009, 12:34 AM
Sorry if anyone clicked on this thread hoping to see some news...so here is an image I stole from the UK section.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3373829076_69757899cb_b.jpg


r-g-b, Photographist

OMH
March 25th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Nice to see that construction is going on on LBT, I was almost certain that it would be cancelled or at least postponed to after the financial crisis, so this is surprising to me...

eddyk
March 26th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Check out the London section for daily photos and up to date news ^^

SE9
March 30th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Byrne Brothers beats Doyle to £50m Shard concrete package
25 March, 2009
http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3137060&origin=bldgbreakingnewsletter

By Sarah Richardson

Cheaper price wins Byrne contract despite expectations that rival would secure job

Mace has awarded Byrne Brothers the concrete package for the £425m Shard tower at London Bridge – a deal worth just under £50m.

Mace appointed Byrne this week ahead of rival Doyle Group, which had been working with Mace on its bid. Doyle had been expected to secure the job once Mace signed its contract with developer London Bridge Quarter earlier this month.

However, it is understood that Byrne Brothers had also been interested in the contract for the past two or three months, and offered a cheaper price for a different form of concrete.

The development comes after it emerged that Cleveland Bridge is to be dropped from the £50m steelwork package on the contract and replaced with Severfield-Rowen.

One source close to the project said: “This is the way contracting is going now. The market is very tight, and relationships with the supply chain contractors are coming under pressure.”

The client on the 310m-high tower, part of the London Bridge Quarter, has told Mace it expects practical completion of the project by May 2012. Mace is building the tower under a guaranteed maximum price deal, after originally proposing the construction management route.

SE9
March 30th, 2009, 10:05 AM
‘The Shard’ gets closer to build start date
26 March, 2009
http://news.icm.ac.uk/hospitality/%E2%80%98the-shard%E2%80%99-gets-closer-to-build-start-date/924/

By Heidi Lees-Bell

The development of London Bridge Quarter has taken a step further this week, as it was revealed that Byrne Bros has won the concrete frame package on The Shard in a deal worth up to £50 million.

According to ContractJournal.com, the move has stunned rival contractors who considered Byrne an outsider to win one of the biggest concrete jobs in London from the project’s main contractor Mace.

It is thought that a similar round of last-minute jockeying is currently underway for the £50m steelwork package on The Shard – which could jettison Cleveland Bridge, originally named as the preferred steel contractor last June by developer Sellar Property Group.

The entire site of London Bridge Quarter covers approximately 2m sq ft of mixed-space comprising The Shard, a 310 metre-high tower, and the redevelopment of New London Bridge House – a stunning piazza linking the two buildings.

Two major pre-lets have already been contracted for The Shard: Shangri-La Hotels is taking over almost 200,000 sq ft of space over 18 floors (floors 34 to 52) and Transport for London is to occupy 190,000 sq ft of office accommodation on floors four to ten inclusive.

The Shard will be Europe’s tallest and first truly mixed-use building – with 1.4m sq ft (gross), featuring offices over 24 floors, a mid-level leisure and viewing complex set over three floors. Rather uniquely, it will also feature a concrete frame sitting on top of a steel one; this, combined with such distinctive design, has created a dream engineering feat.

Architect Renzo Piano is one of the world’s greatest living architects, and shot to international prominence in 1977 when, together with Richard Rogers, he designed the Pompidou Centre in Paris. Of The Shard he says: “The tower is designed to be a sharp and light presence on the London skyline, and to be sustainable from every point of view: human, technological, energetic and economic.”

SE9
March 30th, 2009, 10:11 AM
25th March 2009



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http://i43.tinypic.com/2cfbg35.jpg




29th March 2009



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CrazyAboutCities
March 31st, 2009, 03:26 AM
^^ Looking great! :)

TallBox
April 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM
You know I walk past this every day but the site looks so small to imagine that a 1000 footer will be rising on it.

The Walbrook looked like it had a bigger floorplate - and when they were doing the piling, they excavated a good 50 feet below OD! I guess they cant do that with LBT because of the Jubilee line underneath it

jhalsey
April 2nd, 2009, 06:51 PM
Jubilee line is a long long way underground. At least 50m.

wjfox
April 3rd, 2009, 09:51 PM
This rendering shows plans for a possible recladding of the neighbouring Guys Hospital (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=100) (regularly voted London's ugliest building) -


http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/guyshospital/reclad.jpg

SkyscraperSuperman
April 4th, 2009, 12:45 PM
It would definitely fit in better with the Shard if it was reclad.

cardiff
April 4th, 2009, 04:31 PM
PLEASE reclad it, or demolish it! Looks terrible. Even if they painted it, it would be something. The reclad render looks quite nice as well.

Toetallix
April 6th, 2009, 03:08 PM
That would be very funky if they reclad it like that in that render!

chjbolton
April 7th, 2009, 01:15 AM
This thing is dreadful. Truly defines the term 'eyesore'... They must act now!

evilbish
April 7th, 2009, 07:45 AM
This thing is dreadful. Truly defines the term 'eyesore'... They must act now!

I do hope you're referring to Guy's Hospital!

Vodski Bandit
April 7th, 2009, 05:57 PM
I do hope you're referring to Guy's Hospital!

Ha, pretty sure he was. If they carry out the reclad like that render it'll look increadible imo, very unsual and interesting, but will compliament the Shard perfectly without being a dull box (ie Baby Shard/Gem thing).

Joy Machine
April 7th, 2009, 06:07 PM
awesome! The english are finally putting out something new out that's great!

Zenith
April 7th, 2009, 06:27 PM
It's British, British, London is the capital of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This is our nation, made up of individual countries so if I see 'London England' one more time on a hollywood film I will scream. It is not hard to understand. Yes it is the capital of England, but also the capital of the UK.

Also what do you mean finally? Gherkin etc etc ? Been to the UK have you?

Fei Jie
April 7th, 2009, 07:28 PM
awesome! The english are finally putting out something new out that's great!

WHAT!? :ohno:

Lloyds...
Swiss Re...
The British Museum...
The GLA...
Tate Modern...and the bridge linking old with new...

Are you fcuking crazy...?

SkyscraperSuperman
April 7th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Yep, I think he's crazy.
The Broadgate Tower's also new, and also our much-loved 1 Canada Square, (and I suppose 8 and 25 Canada Square as well.)
So yeah, he's crazy.

Toetallix
April 8th, 2009, 12:55 AM
I think he thinks only the 'super talls' are decent buildings. You are right , all the liested buildings just then are outstanding, I think also Beetham tower manchester (love it or hate it) is fantastic too. Pluss the pinnacle, Heron going up.. All great.

poshbakerloo
April 8th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I think the LBT will be great! I hope it gets built soon!

Toetallix
April 8th, 2009, 01:19 PM
I wonder how much it will be to take a trip up to the observation floor. Bet that won't come cheap! I think it is safe to say though that it won't stop many people who watching this go up, me included :)

Joy Machine
April 9th, 2009, 01:14 AM
WHAT!? :ohno:

Lloyds...
Swiss Re...
The British Museum...
The GLA...
Tate Modern...and the bridge linking old with new...

Are you fcuking crazy...?

Lloyds is actually awesome. but swiss re and the gla :lol: efficient yes...aesthetics :lol:

eddyk
April 9th, 2009, 01:22 AM
Just leave it guys lol....

moving on.

Langur
April 9th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Lloyds is actually awesome. but swiss re and the gla :lol: efficient yes...aesthetics :lol:There's also the London Eye, Millennium Dome (O2), the new Wembley, Heathrow T5, and hundreds of lesser buildings. London has been a forest of construction cranes for the last decade. Millions of square metres of new commercial and residential buildings have been constructed, many of them designed by the world's leading architects. That's why it sounds bizarre and ignorant to claim that "finally the English are building something new". We've been through a massive construction boom, and have probably added more recognisable and iconic buildings in the last decade than any other city in the Western world.

Joy Machine
April 9th, 2009, 03:32 AM
I honestly don't get to much word about the smaller things. I'm actually doing a materials study on the laban dance academy for a project in building "affect". its just, I don't know, the ones I always get word of are the major projects and it always seem that FOA just kills London lol

Langur
April 9th, 2009, 02:13 PM
^ But the projects I've mentioned are huge and high profile. The London Eye has been one of the most successful and high profile additions to any city in the world in the last decade. The Millennium Dome/O2 is gigantic (365m diameter, 1147m circumference) and imo architecturally stunning. The new Wembley is the largest and most hi-tech football stadium in the world and has an instantly recognisable and iconic arch that can be seen across London. It's the most famous stadium in the world's largest sport. HT5 was the largest construction project in Europe until its completion last year. The interior space is gigantic and impressive. An equally large terminal is now under construction at the other end of Heathrow. There's also the fabulous restored/expanded St Pancras (the new home of the Eurostar), Tate Modern, British Museum Great Court, etc which are seen by millions of visitors every year (the attendence figures of the Tate and BM are among the highest of any museums/galleries in the world). Europe's largest urban shopping mall has just opened, and another one of equal scale is already at an advanced stage of construction. And of course there are lots of skyscrapers either recently built, UC, or soon to commence. The 2012 Olympics are also coming. London's had loads of large and high-profile projects in recent years.That's why your statement that "England finally builds something new" is a tad ridiculous....

RiffRaff
April 9th, 2009, 02:20 PM
^ But the projects I've mentioned are huge and high profile. The London Eye has been one of the most successful and high profile additions to any city in the world in the last decade. The Millennium Dome/O2 is gigantic (365m diameter, 1147m circumference) and imo architecturally stunning. The new Wembley is the largest and most hi-tech football stadium in the world and has an instantly recognisable and iconic arch that can be seen across London. It's the most famous stadium in the world's largest sport. HT5 was the largest construction project in Europe until its completion last year. The interior space is gigantic. There's also the new fabulous new St Pancras, Tate Modern, British Museum Great Court, etc which are seen by millions of visitors every year. Europe's largest urban shopping mall has just opened and another one of equal scale is already at an advanced stage of construction. London's had loads of large and high-profile projects in recent years....


Leave it......let him live happily in his ignorance...remember he's American, and to the 70-80% of Americans, who have no passport, the world dosent really exist beyond their borders.


It's their loss.

Joy Machine
April 10th, 2009, 02:43 AM
^^Ignorance is exactly why I'm about to graduate a top ranked architecture school and why I can look at project and critique it for the space it creates in the urban environment. I actually disagree with A LOT of American architecture and I do look beyond the borders because we are cheap and even though we have a sense of design, we don't want to pay for it, thus left with ugly boxes.

Anyways, Langur have you seen Zaha's rendering for the olympics (I think its the pool complex but not sure)? I just saw it today in the new A.D. and one can only hope that gets built. I haven't seen the stadium but I heard it was sorta normal with some weird twist in the design or structure...pretty unclear about it all

Mr Bricks
April 10th, 2009, 03:06 PM
^^Ignorance is exactly why I'm about to graduate a top ranked architecture school

You obviously have a lot to learn.

Zollern
April 11th, 2009, 12:02 AM
C'mon guys, there's no need to get personal.

NellyUSA
April 11th, 2009, 12:05 AM
I'm glad that London's gonna get this awesome tower :)
And | don't know why| I really like it's name - ''The Shard'' :D
:cheers:

choyak
April 11th, 2009, 01:14 AM
There's also the London Eye, Millennium Dome (O2), the new Wembley, Heathrow T5, and hundreds of lesser buildings. London has been a forest of construction cranes for the last decade. Millions of square metres of new commercial and residential buildings have been constructed, many of them designed by the world's leading architects. That's why it sounds bizarre and ignorant to claim that "finally the English are building something new". We've been through a massive construction boom, and have probably added more recognisable and iconic buildings in the last decade than any other city in the Western world.

Wow I was in Heathrow T5 last week and I loved it. I arrived at T3 and bussed to T5. I like the structure with huge arms.

Sucked because I only stayerd at Heathrow on the way to Paris

eddyk
April 11th, 2009, 09:20 PM
dis looks like the Ryugyong Hotel.

capslock
April 11th, 2009, 10:52 PM
dis looks like the Ryugyong Hotel.

slap :lol:

buildmilehightower
April 12th, 2009, 05:42 PM
but dis building is quality...

NothingBetterToDo
April 13th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Anyways, Langur have you seen Zaha's rendering for the olympics (I think its the pool complex but not sure)? I just saw it today in the new A.D. and one can only hope that gets built. I haven't seen the stadium but I heard it was sorta normal with some weird twist in the design or structure...pretty unclear about it all

You should check out the UK section of SSC, tonnes of threads on smaller projects, the Olympics, construcion pics etc etc. ;)

l'eau
April 13th, 2009, 04:19 PM
my one of fav projects:okay:

JoHaN 15
April 13th, 2009, 04:19 PM
but dis building is quality...

+1
This building looks great imo

jhalsey
April 13th, 2009, 07:04 PM
dis looks like the Ryugyong Hotel.

Not really. It doesn't have the funny round flying saucer at the top.

Madman
April 14th, 2009, 08:41 AM
dis looks like the Ryugyong Hotel.

No this tower is blatantly a copy of Tower of Russia.

buildmilehightower
April 14th, 2009, 12:55 PM
No this tower is blatantly a copy of Tower of Russia.

Russia tower is descendent or ryugyong, shard is descendent of beauty itself.

twilight_2008
April 14th, 2009, 01:52 PM
Actually, Russia Tower is a copy of this. This was proposed first.

Arrrgh
April 14th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Wonderful. I love London! :)

cardiff
April 14th, 2009, 03:43 PM
So this is a copy of Russia tower......lol! just kidding, how many times does it need to be posted, perhaps each new page should start off with that.

Vodski Bandit
April 14th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Ha, I'm pretty sure Madman was taking the piss guys..

eyrie
April 15th, 2009, 10:19 AM
dis looks like the Ryugyong Hotel.I would have taken you seriously if you hadn't said "dis". Shame is education that bad in the states?.....I prefer dis building to dat one an' I fink it's going to be free hundred meters tall

Luis87
April 15th, 2009, 02:01 PM
I like this tower!

jhalsey
April 15th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Yes it will look great from the north bank of the Thames.

milkymilky
April 15th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Blimey these international forums are jam-packed with inane drivel aren't they?!?! Back to the UK forum for me! cheerio!

wjfox
April 21st, 2009, 08:53 PM
Blimey these international forums are jam-packed with inane drivel aren't they?!?! Back to the UK forum for me! cheerio!

Indeed. I've just deleted more than half a page of posts...

Troopchina
April 23rd, 2009, 12:48 PM
I must say I don't like the tower. The design itself is mediocre and the position right next to those small houses and a lack of space + the lack of any wide roads around it is IMHO horrible.

RiffRaff
April 23rd, 2009, 01:21 PM
I must say I don't like the tower. The design itself is mediocre and the position right next to those small houses and a lack of space + the lack of any wide roads around it is IMHO horrible.

^^lol.....attention seeking whore.

dachacon
April 24th, 2009, 07:20 AM
I must say I don't like the tower. The design itself is mediocre and the position right next to those small houses and a lack of space + the lack of any wide roads around it is IMHO horrible.

what do wide roads have to do with it being built??
there's more than one way to travel to a tall building considering this is being built on top of a train station. :bash:

Troopchina
April 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM
what do wide roads have to do with it being built??
there's more than one way to travel to a tall building considering this is being built on top of a train station. :bash:

I didn't know that. But still, I don't like it's position. Living down below in the shadow must be horrible

cardiff
April 24th, 2009, 08:16 PM
If anyone is living down below it they must be super rich!

Comdot
April 24th, 2009, 11:06 PM
anyone know what this is that arrived on site today?!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=407549&page=259#5173

The Eagle has landed!!

Any suggestions for what exactly this big yellow thing is?

The base of a tower crane perhaps?

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/24Apr2009197.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/24Apr2009196.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/24Apr2009199.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/24Apr2009201.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/24Apr2009202.jpg

Comdot
April 25th, 2009, 12:38 AM
^^nevermind- turns out it's a pile test rig

nezzybaby
April 25th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I didn't know that. But still, I don't like it's position. Living down below in the shadow must be horrible

In what way is that different from any other tall building ever constructed anywhere in the world. I'm sure having an apartment at the base of the empire state building is similarly shaded!

Vodski Bandit
April 25th, 2009, 04:03 PM
I didn't know that. But still, I don't like it's position. Living down below in the shadow must be horrible

Yeah, tall buildings with a world class design are awful aren't they... find another forum mate.

abha.elb
April 25th, 2009, 04:15 PM
wow it's a beautiful supertall

ausie
April 26th, 2009, 05:47 AM
not a fav of mine but still pretty good, like the cladding, does anyone have like a floorplan ?

Vodski Bandit
April 26th, 2009, 06:11 AM
not a fav of mine but still pretty good, like the cladding, does anyone have like a floorplan ?

The only detailed ones I've seen are a couple for the appartment floors. See post #1205 of this thread, pretty spectacular..

ausie
April 26th, 2009, 07:58 AM
ok thnx

da_wei
May 7th, 2009, 03:06 AM
it's look really crowd around this construction area.
I doubt is there any spaces for car parking?

Chinese Translations
May 8th, 2009, 12:11 PM
this building sucks. suits london well

DarJoLe
May 8th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Thanks for that insightful comment!

wnweber
May 8th, 2009, 12:36 PM
amazing

Vodski Bandit
May 8th, 2009, 03:23 PM
this building sucks. suits london well

Great, thanks for that, you're the one in the ICC thread that hates trees aren't you?... hmm :nuts:
Go away

droneriot
May 8th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Great, thanks for that, you're the one in the ICC thread that hates trees aren't you?... hmm :nuts:
Go away
It was the Greenland Plaza thread, actually. Though I agree with your sentiment.

Vodski Bandit
May 8th, 2009, 05:12 PM
Ha, oh really? Well I think he's made his tree feelings clear in both threads then.. and probably more! :lol:
Maybe he was brutally savaged by a mob of trees as a child... or maybe he's just an idiot...?
Ho hum

droneriot
May 8th, 2009, 05:23 PM
Ever seen the movie "Evil Dead"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

jhalsey
May 8th, 2009, 08:17 PM
this building sucks. suits london well

London could not handle it. Planes fly too low on way to City Airport!

Sesquip
May 8th, 2009, 08:24 PM
it's look really crowd around this construction area.
I doubt is there any spaces for car parking?

none at all, as far as I know.
it is right next door to a major rail and metro station though. tbf, anyone driving a car into central london is insane :)

Newcastle Guy
May 9th, 2009, 01:56 PM
this building sucks. suits london well

Stupid comment. If your going to post why you don't like the building and actually start some intellectual debate about it's merits and flaws, then fine.

Otherwise, you just sound like a jealous retard:lol:

deepblue01
May 9th, 2009, 02:32 PM
^^ Yeah, we need to give each Architect respect. Not all buildings will be liked by everyone. You are right, if someone is going to say something negative, they must give a reason to justify their dislike.

london-b
May 9th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Lloyds is actually awesome. but swiss re and the gla :lol: efficient yes...aesthetics :lol:

u iz da tard

london-b
May 9th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Just another pyramid...

It has more than 4 sides.....

chest
May 10th, 2009, 08:45 PM
just 3 years time..on the skyline from a distance....


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/just3yearstime.jpg

wjfox
May 10th, 2009, 08:50 PM
^ I can honestly say that's one of the most exciting renders I've ever seen on this forum. :)

harsh1802
May 10th, 2009, 08:53 PM
^ I can honestly say that's one of the most exciting renders I've ever seen on this forum. :)

I agree. I love this tower.

Looks like the one from the movie I, Robot.

darrense14
May 10th, 2009, 10:00 PM
^^^Fantastic rendering. When the image is put into context with the London skyline you realise how tall it's actually going to be.

I work in the building directly in front (Guy's hospital), so i walk past the site every day. Not much to see at the moment - just holes being drilled into the ground, but i'll take my camera into work and get a few pictures next week.

ferge
May 10th, 2009, 10:08 PM
I personally think its fundamental that once built, the LBT remains the tallest building in London.. I'd hate for it to be surpassed, I'm sure most would disagree, in wanting 350m+ even 400m+ towers, but for me I think the Shard should be 'the' tower of the city.

The above render I think echoes my sentiment, and shows this design is exceptional.

PortoNuts
May 10th, 2009, 11:12 PM
I think it would be interesting to see at least a 500 m tower in London. Of course more than that would be going too far. But some skyscrascrapers over 400 m would be great for the skyline. The Shard shouldn't be the end of a period in London's constant renewal. It shoud be the beginning of great changes in the urban landscape of the city. The Shard might be the start for something bigger.

jhalsey
May 11th, 2009, 10:33 PM
Of course it is south of the river therefore not technically part of the City of London.

AmericanSkyscraper22
May 12th, 2009, 12:54 AM
between Bishopgate and this, London will have a beautiful skyline

QuarterMileSidewalk
May 12th, 2009, 07:26 AM
Of course it is south of the river therefore not technically part of the City of London.

Yeah, but I think perhaps they were referring to Greater London, not just the Square Mile.

buildmilehightower
May 12th, 2009, 12:21 PM
just 3 years time..on the skyline from a distance....


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/just3yearstime.jpg

is this taken from south of thames or north of thames?

eddyk
May 12th, 2009, 04:09 PM
South of surely?

london-b
May 12th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Yeap south.

S.T.Y AP
May 13th, 2009, 02:26 AM
I not taste of buildings with cone format, but am pretty of the same skill

jhalsey
May 13th, 2009, 06:58 PM
south. nice if guys hospital were demolished. that's the thing in the way.

dnobsemajdnob
May 14th, 2009, 12:30 AM
This is one of the best projects in the world and is appropriate for the best city in the world.

chjbolton
May 14th, 2009, 12:42 PM
south. nice if guys hospital were demolished. that's the thing in the way.

There is a project somewhere to renovate it... Urgent is the word.

jhalsey
May 14th, 2009, 07:32 PM
There is a project somewhere to renovate it... Urgent is the word.

Funnily enough I believe Guy's is the tallest hospital building in the world - over 400 feet.

VictorF
May 15th, 2009, 05:43 PM
just 3 years time..on the skyline from a distance....


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Public/just3yearstime.jpg

It looks like Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang, a lonely pyramid. I'm not really sure that tower will fit London that well... I like the other part of the skyline more

Of course that's my opinion, hope to change it when completed.

Marco Polo
May 16th, 2009, 01:06 AM
Yeah,it makes me think of Pyongyang as well...

ShieldCastle
May 16th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Funnily enough I believe Guy's is the tallest hospital building in the world - over 400 feet.

2nd tallest

The O'Quinn Medical Tower at St. Luke's, in Houston is 477ft/145m
Guy's Tower, is 469 ft/143m

AmericanSkyscraper22
May 16th, 2009, 05:10 PM
anyone got some new updates or are they still working on the foundation?

wjfox
May 17th, 2009, 02:06 PM
Can we please try to stay on topic, and stop posting mindless spam? I've just deleted about 20 posts here...

patrykus
May 17th, 2009, 09:40 PM
They are going forward quite smoothly...

For those unable to visit the site - here's a few pics of the latest action.

The site is so jammed full of equipment, that they had to hoist up one of the smaller cherry pickers to make way for its larger replacement (hence the flying equipment in Pictures 3 and 8).

Picture #1
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009007-1.jpg

Picture #2
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009008-1.jpg

Picture #3
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009010-1.jpg

Picture #4
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009014.jpg

Picture #5
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009019.jpg

Picture #6
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009020.jpg

Picture #7
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009023.jpg

Picture #8
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/nihildicit2/15May2009005-1.jpg

Can anybody tell us what is the purpouse of the big hole visible in pic 4? Is it core position maybe?

CrazyAboutCities
May 19th, 2009, 01:07 AM
^^ It is looking like core position to me.

jayOOfoshO
May 19th, 2009, 07:26 AM
Renzo Piano = Great Architect

Ganis
May 19th, 2009, 07:31 AM
so glad this is being built

BUCARITO1981
May 19th, 2009, 08:30 AM
super buena esa construccion en londres.. vvia colombia!!

wjfox
May 19th, 2009, 12:09 PM
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=426&storycode=3140788&channel=783&c=1&encCode=000000000198afc4


London through a Shard

19 May, 2009
By Ruth Bloomfield

This is London as you have never seen it before – a glimpse of what visitors to the Shard will see when it opens to the public in 2012.


http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/u/h/m/Shard1HP.jpg


LBQ, the Qatari and UK consortium behind the London Bridge landmark, has created a series of images giving an early taste of the new views of the capital the Renzo Piano tower will expose from its public viewing galleries.

Work on the Shard began earlier this year. It will contain offices, flats, a hotel, restaurants, with the developer claiming it “will herald a new era in high-rise development for London”.

At 310m and with 100 levels, the Shard will be the tallest building in Western Europe. The viewing galleries at a height of 244m will offer the highest publicly accessible observation point in London.

The viewing galleries are spread over floors 68, 69 and 72 and offer a vantage point at almost twice the height of the London Eye.

A triple-height space on the main viewing level will offer floor to ceiling heights of approximately 8m, while an “indoor/outdoor” experience on the third and highest observation deck will partially expose visitors to the elements.

The galleries will offer 360 degree views across London, with the South Downs (http://www.visitsouthdowns.com/client/images/19/UKmapnewwithinset.jpg) visible on a clear day.

James Sellar, chief executive of Sellar Property Group, which is part of the LBQ consortium, said: “The Shard is set to become one of the most significant additions to the London skyline in decades. From the outset, it has always been my aim to ensure that this wonderful building is open to the public, so that they get to experience the wonder of the Shard at first hand.”

buildmilehightower
May 19th, 2009, 06:16 PM
TWINCE the height of london eye, that is the selling point of this tower..

poshbakerloo
May 19th, 2009, 11:00 PM
wow!! how much work has been done?

SkyscraperSuperman
May 20th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Lol, the London Eye will have no visitors when this is finished!
(Hopefully not, but it's possible... ;))

buildmilehightower
May 20th, 2009, 02:52 PM
^^ The whole ride will be just crap looking at shard standing there high and proud...

Tony Resta
May 20th, 2009, 05:38 PM
How much will it cost to go to the top gallery?

cardiff
May 21st, 2009, 04:36 AM
From my experiance people will still ride the eye, probably in greater numbers than the shard due to stunning views over the houses of parliament and buckingham palace. The shard isnt in the most tourist area of london (although there are alot of attractions near by), and i think the visitors will be people who have already travelled on the eye or are more descerning / investigative. The london eye is a world attraction and i feel this wont change because of height.

Tony Resta
May 21st, 2009, 12:11 PM
From my experiance people will still ride the eye, probably in greater numbers than the shard due to stunning views over the houses of parliament and buckingham palace. The shard isnt in the most tourist area of london (although there are alot of attractions near by), and i think the visitors will be people who have already travelled on the eye or are more descerning / investigative. The london eye is a world attraction and i feel this wont change because of height.

But just the fact of being really high up and in the tallest building of the city is bound to attract people.

Chinese Translations
May 21st, 2009, 12:53 PM
it's too bad the only supertall in london's pathetic skyline is going to be this eyesore..

Newcastle Guy
May 21st, 2009, 02:20 PM
^^If this guy is just going to pop up in here every page or two and troll, I think he should be banned.

buildmilehightower
May 21st, 2009, 03:03 PM
I agree.

Frankus Maximus
May 22nd, 2009, 03:18 PM
He is doing the same thing in the Strata thread too.

TennisViewer
May 22nd, 2009, 04:10 PM
The Shard looks great. Wish I could go there!

Vodski Bandit
May 22nd, 2009, 06:06 PM
it's too bad the only supertall in london's pathetic skyline is going to be this eyesore..

I just find it a shame that he has a Hong Kong pic as his avatar, you're a disgrace to that fine city sir! :lol:
I think banning would be a sensible course of action, just an idiot...

Lariabian
May 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM
This tower is beautiful.

Regards.

london-b
May 22nd, 2009, 08:45 PM
it's too bad the only supertall in london's pathetic skyline is going to be this eyesore..

Stop spamming London related threads please.

SkyscraperSuperman
May 22nd, 2009, 08:48 PM
it's too bad the only supertall in london's pathetic skyline is going to be this eyesore..
^^If this guy is just going to pop up in here every page or two and troll, I think he should be banned.
I agree.
Will? :)

chjbolton
May 22nd, 2009, 10:23 PM
^^If this guy is just going to pop up in here every page or two and troll, I think he should be banned.

I'll second that but most importantly... NO ONE should react after say... This post.
He's enjoying it too much. Dork. :bash:

Minato ku
May 22nd, 2009, 10:33 PM
What I like it is integration of the tower with London Bridge station.

milkymilky
May 23rd, 2009, 05:41 PM
^^ DO NOT click on this link it contains a virus. Please can a mod delete the post?

-Thanks!

cardiff
May 23rd, 2009, 09:13 PM
But just the fact of being really high up and in the tallest building of the city is bound to attract people.

That will attract a certain type of person but the London eye is an attraction in itself, while i think the shard will become a tourist destination, i dont think it will be as succesful as the eye purely because it has mostly an office and residential aspect, its away from the most touristy area of London and the eye provides better views of londons most iconic buildings. This doesnt mean im an advocate of the eye over the shard, just that its already etablished as londons observation platform.

jak3m
May 25th, 2009, 02:41 PM
I believe people will go on the eye to see the shard ;)

kanye
May 25th, 2009, 03:15 PM
what's the current high about?

Monkey9000
May 25th, 2009, 04:49 PM
-5m

eddyk
May 25th, 2009, 08:14 PM
I believe people will go on the eye to see the shard ;)

Or the monument...which would be far better I assume.


So if anyone is panning to visit london in 4 years...check out the monument in the city.

cardiff
May 26th, 2009, 03:01 PM
I wonder what number of people visit the monument and climb the steps. I only discovered it by chance, its now one of my must see places in london for tourists.

Frankus Maximus
May 26th, 2009, 06:08 PM
I wonder what number of people visit the monument and climb the steps. I only discovered it by chance, its now one of my must see places in london for tourists.

Just as I decended on my last visit to the Monument I heard an American/Canadian lady ask one of the assistants if it had a lift!!!

Monkey9000
May 26th, 2009, 11:04 PM
Haha, those Yanks just can't help but slot themselves neatly into the typical stereotype! :lol:

cardiff
May 27th, 2009, 12:01 AM
perhaps they should instal one for tourist we dislike, as the tower tapers at the top and hence the lift would get progressively smaller, how long before they panic!? lol

TallBox
May 27th, 2009, 08:44 AM
Just as I decended on my last visit to the Monument I heard an American/Canadian lady ask one of the assistants if it had a lift!!!

:laugh:

only thing about the monument are those metal grilled cages at the top that obscure your view and doesnt allow you to fully appreciate the vista

Taller, Better
May 29th, 2009, 06:38 PM
No photos?!? If someone snaps one of the construction, would they please post it? Thanks.

pixel2008
May 30th, 2009, 08:18 AM
I believe people will go on the eye to see the shard ;)

I think people will go to the last floors of the Shard to see the Pinnacle, and just after that they will try to sneak into the Pinnacle to catch a glimpse of The Shard... Well, I'm pretty sure I will be among them. :cheers2:

wjfox
May 30th, 2009, 10:43 AM
No photos?!? If someone snaps one of the construction, would they please post it? Thanks.

Well, there isn't much to see right now - just piling and prep work. Above-ground construction is still several months away.

christos-greece
May 30th, 2009, 11:08 AM
Originally Posted by Taller, Better
No photos?!? If someone snaps one of the construction, would they please post it? Thanks

From 6 May (i dont know if those posted before)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3510024674_2b68db7656_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sarflondondunc/3510024674/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3662/3565888748_f240e1ea2a_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/axelrd/3565888748/

Newcastle Guy
May 30th, 2009, 12:49 PM
I think people will go to the last floors of the Shard to see the Pinnacle, and just after that they will try to sneak into the Pinnacle to catch a glimpse of The Shard... Well, I'm pretty sure I will be among them. :cheers2:

There will be a public restaurant on the top (4?) floors of the Pinnacle, and there will be terraces that allow you to go outside. So you should be able to get up there :)

wjfox
May 30th, 2009, 01:37 PM
The website has been updated slightly. The movie has a new scene at the beginning (click on "Film").

http://www.shardlondonbridge.com/

Also, if you click on "Visualisation" followed by "Live site cams" (on the right), one of the webcams now has a closer view.

wjfox
May 30th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Screenshot from the new vid:


http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/skyscrapercitypics/london/shard/shard_new_rendering.jpg

Hazeley
May 30th, 2009, 04:09 PM
That will attract a certain type of person but the London eye is an attraction in itself, while i think the shard will become a tourist destination, i dont think it will be as succesful as the eye purely because it has mostly an office and residential aspect, its away from the most touristy area of London and the eye provides better views of londons most iconic buildings. This doesnt mean im an advocate of the eye over the shard, just that its already etablished as londons observation platform.

It might never be as popular but that doesn't mean it won't be better. For me the best current view point is the bar up Tower 42. It's not cheap but say you get a £30 bottle of wine between 3 people you're paying less than entry to the eye, it's more relaxed, and you get to enjoy the wine.(And the view is stunning!) No doubt the Shard will be better still...

69Ketchup
May 31st, 2009, 06:59 PM
It must not stay in London

Monkey9000
June 1st, 2009, 04:37 AM
^^ What is that supposed to mean!?!?! :dunno:

venom6
June 1st, 2009, 01:21 PM
Looks like i will have another favorite building after the Gurkin :)

buildmilehightower
June 1st, 2009, 07:36 PM
It must not stay in London

I agree, once its built, it must be shipped oversea, but how???

pixel2008
June 1st, 2009, 09:26 PM
I agree, once its built, it must be shipped oversea, but how???


It would be easy. The parts of the Shard could be taken apart, then shipped overseas, and finally they could be put together in his backyard. :lol:

SkyscraperSuperman
June 1st, 2009, 09:34 PM
It must not stay in London
Of course. We'll just prop it up on a cart and wheel it across the ocean.

gars129
June 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM
Beautiful tower. Love it!!!

chjbolton
June 2nd, 2009, 03:25 AM
I agree, once its built, it must be shipped oversea, but how???

Attach a couple of powerful boosters one side of what will be the base, then add a control tower on the other side and tada!! You get an imperial destroyer! Simple as that amigo :D

jozikas
June 2nd, 2009, 09:14 AM
Wasn't this already almost constracted :D ???

Here we go, only glassing left :

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3652/3369010609_e35c999cc2_b.jpg

buildmilehightower
June 2nd, 2009, 12:41 PM
scaffolding work look so disorganised.

nezzybaby
June 2nd, 2009, 09:09 PM
Wasn't this already almost constracted :D ???

Here we go, only glassing left :
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3652/3369010609_e35c999cc2_b.jpg

I think you're posting in the wrong thread....

... oh wait, you're trying to be funny?

WOWZOMG HAHAHALOLZ LOLOCAUST THAT IS BRILLIANT NOBODY HAS MADE THAT JOKE YET HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE

EDIT: ^This is sarcasm, it suddenly dawns on me that if you have no sense of humour you probably have no grasp of sarcasm either.

leogodoy
June 3rd, 2009, 04:12 AM
4chan-type humor is always appreciated.

drew.magoo
June 3rd, 2009, 05:41 AM
i'm sorry i'm horribly late
but could someone repost the video that everyone's taking screencaps of?
i've looked and can't seem to find it.

wjfox
June 3rd, 2009, 01:11 PM
i'm sorry i'm horribly late
but could someone repost the video that everyone's taking screencaps of?
i've looked and can't seem to find it.


http://www.shardlondonbridge.com/

(click on "Film").

TomL-1991
June 3rd, 2009, 03:38 PM
Why the Shard is special

What is unusual about the project is that the construction of the core will start at ground level and go downwards into the three storey basement as the superstructure is constructed upwards. This will save time.

The site is in a densely built up area and there is hardly any storage space. To get round this constraint, the ground floor slab will be poured before basement excavation starts. The 16.5m deep basement will then be built top down as superstructure and above ground core construction starts. “We were intending to build the core bottom up, but it was taking too long,” says WSP Cantor Seinuk director Kamran Moazimi. “Instead we’re going for a top down strategy including the core.”

Firstly the piles are sunk. Piles 900mm in diameter are used for the secant basement wall, and the piles that support the basement floor are either 1500mm or 1800mm diameter.

These piles go to 53m depth and are filled with concrete to around 16m below ground floor level. For the core, large plunge columns will be fed down the empty top sections of the shafts used to create the piles. The plunge columns are embedded in the top 5m of concrete in the pile shafts. Foam concrete is then pumped in around the plunge columns to fill in the voids.

These plunge columns will support the core while the basement is being excavated. They are large braced plated columns around 500mm square. The columns weigh around 800kg/m and will be taking around 19MN each.

The slipforming of the core above ground will start at the same time as the basement is excavated, meaning that these columns take the load of the core while it is being constructed. Once the basement excavation reaches the bottom, the concrete walls of the core will be poured.

http://www.nce.co.uk/the-shard-down-at-the-bridge/5200168.article
Rest of the Article ^^

pirate94
June 4th, 2009, 03:28 AM
Just as I decended on my last visit to the Monument I heard an American/Canadian lady ask one of the assistants if it had a lift!!!

I'm new here, so I'll probably get crucified but.....

Chances are, if she were an American, she probably would have asked if it had an elevator, not a lift.

Maybe she was joking, maybe she has a medical condition, maybe she was serious.

Certainly no other nationality would have asked such an asinine question.

Sarcasm intended.:banana::banana::banana:

Uaarkson
June 4th, 2009, 04:38 AM
lol yeah, no american would ever ask if something had a "lift"

OmegaScrapers
June 4th, 2009, 05:50 AM
personally, id say that it dosent fit in London, being a very cultural city, London looks very good with it's own western style peaceful buildings that has its own beauty.
however the tower does look stunning, but itll just be standing there by itself since its one of the only supertalls in London. It would look better in cities like HK or LA.

TomL-1991
June 4th, 2009, 11:43 AM
personally, id say that it dosent fit in London, being a very cultural city, London looks very good with it's own western style peaceful buildings that has its own beauty.
however the tower does look stunning, but itll just be standing there by itself since its one of the only supertalls in London. It would look better in cities like HK or LA.

True, it will stand out on it's own, at least for some time.

But, with the Bishopsgate tower (the pinnacle) at 288m it nicely mirrors the the city square. I imagine it won't be long till it has it's own cluster.. Infact the "three houses" were proposed not too long ago, though renders have not been made, it will be very close to the 300m mark.

I understand the uncomfortable feelings about it not fitting in, but many said that about Tower 42, the Gerkin and such... yet they all look great?

pixel2008
June 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM
True, it will stand out on it's own, at least for some time.

But, with the Bishopsgate tower (the pinnacle) at 288m it nicely mirrors the the city square. I imagine it won't be long till it has it's own cluster.. Infact the "three houses" were proposed not too long ago, though renders have not been made, it will be very close to the 300m mark.

I understand the uncomfortable feelings about it not fitting in, but many said that about Tower 42, the Gerkin and such... yet they all look great?

The Shard is going to look awesome standing alone. It will be THE landmark tower, and the Big Ben of the 21st century.
The fact that it won't be a part of the city's cluster is for the better. Imagine the view one will be able to get from Shard's observation deck! There will be no better place for starring at the Pinnacle and the rest of the buildings standing just across the river. :cheers:

TomL-1991
June 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM
The Shard is going to look awesome standing alone. It will be THE landmark tower, and the Big Ben of the 21st century.
The fact that it won't be a part of the city's cluster is for the better. Imagine the view one will be able to get from Shard's observation deck! There will be no better place for starring at the Pinnacle and the rest of the buildings standing just across the river. :cheers:

I do not dispute this, I too believe it will create a new icon for london. I also believe it will look better on it's own, but this may not last very long. The London Bridge Station is a huge transport hub, and as such planning permission for large buildings are easier to obtain around it. It won't be long till new proposals are unearthed for Southwark.

Newcastle Guy
June 4th, 2009, 01:43 PM
personally, id say that it dosent fit in London, being a very cultural city, London looks very good with it's own western style peaceful buildings that has its own beauty.
however the tower does look stunning, but itll just be standing there by itself since its one of the only supertalls in London. It would look better in cities like HK or LA.

I disagree, the London of old had dozens (hundreds?) of spires reaching into the sky. This is a futuristic take on old London, IMO. And it will be an icon for the capital, showing it's just as forward thinking as anywhere else.

bamboo stick
June 5th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Haha, those Yanks just can't help but slot themselves neatly into the typical stereotype! :lol:

Or, they were elderly or disabled and wouldn't otherwise be able to reach the top. What if they were Canadian, would you have reacted the same way? You do understand that most towers (even older ones) have been retrofitted with lifts, don't you? Don't slot yourself into the uncultured, uncaring Scottish stereotype. You're dangerously close.

Monkey9000
June 6th, 2009, 02:09 AM
:doh: Hook, line and sinker ;)

burjdubai91
June 6th, 2009, 04:46 AM
wonderful building... though too much of a standout in historic and cultural london... I still applaud piano's sleek design though....

pixel2008
June 6th, 2009, 09:55 AM
Or, they were elderly or disabled and wouldn't otherwise be able to reach the top. What if they were Canadian, would you have reacted the same way? You do understand that most towers (even older ones) have been retrofitted with lifts, don't you? Don't slot yourself into the uncultured, uncaring Scottish stereotype. You're dangerously close.
:lol:

I assume you don't know much about the Monument.
Here is something for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monument

the sock
June 29th, 2009, 09:32 PM
hows the site looking ?

brunob
June 29th, 2009, 09:47 PM
A lot of piling works going on.

jimbo
July 5th, 2009, 06:53 PM
from my travels today:

hadn't seen the new hoardings until today - snazzy!

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2977/img2670p.jpg

4 piling rigs, 2 mobile cranes and a shed load of equipment, although the site was quiet today:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8635/img2671o.jpg

big piles
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/450/img2672z.jpg

organised chaos:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5916/img2673e.jpg

looks like they got halfway and gave up for the weekend:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6674/img2674d.jpg

harsh1802
July 5th, 2009, 06:57 PM
^^ Nice updates.

Can you pls resize those pics? Thanks.

skyperu34
July 6th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Nice to see there is progress on the site. Cool pics.

the sock
July 7th, 2009, 10:27 PM
thanx for the pics.

B@dGuYoM
July 8th, 2009, 11:43 PM
could become in my top ten fav' when finished,really nice

DanielG!
July 8th, 2009, 11:58 PM
Amazing tower!

I love London's skyline, so contemporary...

It has to be finished in 2012?

It would look nice being one of the center of the atention of the Olimpic Games :D


Cheers...

wjfox
July 9th, 2009, 12:00 PM
It has to be finished in 2012?



May/June 2012 - a few weeks before the Olympics.

Luke80
July 9th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Lets hope it finishes on time.

Luis87
July 10th, 2009, 02:08 AM
It will be the biggest tower in UK right?

LoveAgent.
July 10th, 2009, 02:21 AM
^^
exactly:)

Galandar
July 10th, 2009, 02:30 AM
London's skyline is the most stylish and unique in Europe. I like it a lot. And this tower is just a great point to all this! Congratulations

Taller, Better
July 10th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Fantastic to see progress! They are still going for 310m?

cristof
July 10th, 2009, 06:07 PM
im happy for London but also for whole europe which finally have a 300 m skyscraper...im glad ;)... what about the three house projects nearby ? on hold? or cancelled?