Yes it is. You need to reserve free passes at the memorial's website

www.national911memorial.org.

Will it always be like that? Reserving passes? Or will it eventually be free to go as you want to the public

Will it always be like that? Reserving passes? Or will it eventually be free to go as you want to the public

For the first couple years, you will have to reserve passes. Later it will become like all parks, just walk on. :cheers:

Whew. Idk about that one. Nothing beat the two towers in the skyline.

Uhm... 4 towers in the skyline? >.>

For the first couple years, you will have to reserve passes. Later it will become like all parks, just walk on. :cheers:

Ughh...I hope it's just a couple months or 1 year max.

Uhm... 4 towers in the skyline? >.>

Four shorter towers...

They are still tall and when they are done will look good but it's hard for me to get over the height that won't be replaced.

Four shorter towers...

They are still tall and when they are done will look good but it's hard for me to get over the height that won't be replaced.

They have to control the flow because of all the construction. It must be difficult to deal with people and all this construction as well. I am sure there are gonna be days where the memorial is closed. Especially around the north memorial, they still have a lot of trees to plant in that area.

Let us please not have the pointless "which WTC is better?" debate.

To some of the newer members, this thread is strictly about 1WTC. The memorial has its own forum thread here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1144445&page=60

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Construction Workers at One World Trade Center (Freedom Tower) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyclovesnyc/6142551920/in/photostream) by NYC♥NYC (http://www.flickr.com/people/nyclovesnyc/) on Flickr

Four shorter towers...

They are still tall and when they are done will look good but it's hard for me to get over the height that won't be replaced.

As far as I'm aware:

The original 1 WTC was 1,368 feet to the roof. The new 1 WTC will be 1,368 to the roof and 1,776+ to the spire, ~40 feet taller than the mast of the original 1 WTC. The original 2 WTC was 1,362 to the roof, the new will be 1,350 to the spire. Obviously 3 WTC and 4 WTC are taller than the original 3,4,5, and 6 WTC. The new 7 WTC is also substantially taller than the original.

So while 2 WTC will be 12 feet shorter(or 99% the height of the original 2 WTC), I don't think that's particularly noticeable. The new complex, at least to me, adequately replaces the height of the old towers.

towers 3 and 4 were the ones that were substantially taller to their predecessors 7 is relatively close in height but is taller.

overall you are right just wanted to fix that ;D

2 WTC pics i took yesterday...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6174/6146089157_b8b338b74d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6146089157/)
DSC06795 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6146089157/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6145939893_cf37824bf5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6145939893/)
DSCN3171 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6145939893/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6145386993_f9ed2d02c0_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rkm74/6145386993/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6065/6145661741_0ff2ca49e3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerseyjj/6145661741/sizes/l/in/photostream/

That day changed my life...

It was the day that changed all of our lives, the day that changed the entire course of humanity's future.

Great updates... :applause:

I reckon the job they've made of the whole memorial site looks bloody awesome, but the shafts of light, while amazing, seems to be kind of a shame located a few blocks away. I know the lights are only temporary and there wasn't a plan to light them all the time, but imagine if they could have sunk all those lights into the floor, as a permanent part of the memorial, on the exact outline of the footprints of the original towers. Even if they were only lit one day of they year, it would have been so much more of an accurate tribute.

Good point. I would think that idea could always be retrofitted in at some later date.

Ughh...I hope it's just a couple months or 1 year max.

It will probably have to be a few years. There is an enormous amount of construction going on all around, and underneath the site. Having to obtain the pass to go to the memorial is probably meant as a way to keep hoards of people from trying to be at the memorial all at once for the time being because there's already an extremely high amount of congestion everywhere you look. It's mind boggling just how much is going within and around that 16 acre site.

Someday I would like to come see the place, but I would rather wait until all of the construction is complete.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6065/6145661741_0ff2ca49e3_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jerseyjj/6145661741/sizes/l/in/photostream/

This pic is awesome :banana2:

It's kinda sad that one needs to get a reservation to see that memorial. Memorials should be open to the public freely. Especially this one since you can see it only when standing directly in front of it or in one of the surrounding towers :ohno:

Right now there's too much construction going on all around for it to be open to the public.

I dunno but couldn't they open it to the public for only a few hours a day? Maybe when the construction workers have a pause? :dunno:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/6139239650_7a78c29113_b.jpg
Tribute in Light 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/6139239650/in/photostream) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

^^
french tower bleu, blanc, rouge

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Tribute in Light 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccho/6139239650/in/photostream) by ccho (http://www.flickr.com/people/ccho/) on Flickr

I am a massive fan of this beautiful and very iconic babe and this tower looks similar to The Shard in some shots :) , anyone agree?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6065/6145661741_0ff2ca49e3_b.jpg


Amazing photo :cheers:

Caught the HD Earthcam (http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg) looking up again:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2dcaczd.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/10dse4o.jpg

I dunno but couldn't they open it to the public for only a few hours a day? Maybe when the construction workers have a pause? :dunno:

Too much people would wanted to take that chance and there will be chaos..With current system, everything is organised and controlled..Everything people have to do is take a free ticket..

http://upic.me/i/14/aclip.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28072279)

http://upic.me/i/a0/clip_2.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28072280)

http://upic.me/i/q1/2clip_3.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28072282)

what floor now is it?

I am a massive fan of this beautiful and very iconic babe and this tower looks similar to The Shard in some shots :) , anyone agree?

No, the shard is ugly and this thing is not.

Wow i love the lights.

Looks amazing lit up even now, imagine when it's complete!

what floor now is it?

80th floor :cheers:

a few days old, sorry guys

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/6137358056_4c803dc060_z.jpg

The glass on the museum is nice. They should put that on the base of 1 wtc.

The glass on the museum is nice. They should put that on the base of 1 wtc.

Damn, that would look awesome..What if I tell you something like that will be done?

Maybe she's confusing the tribute in light with the memorial pools. The two aren't the same thing. The tribute in light is a few blocks away from 1WTC.

Ah I see ... thank you guys for the explanation .. now I get the whole picture and was indeed confused by the tribute lights and the memorial pools on the other side.

Wish there were such tribute lights from the middle center of the pools too or at least lit pools in different colors or pools full of those flickering lights like on Eifel Tower that will glitter in water and guess its effect will be dazzlingly pretty especially at night ...

If I could add one thing to the whole design, I would have implemented 3000 of such flickering lights in the pools each carrying the name of all those who passed away as to always shine and be alive.

Work started again on top of 1WTC..

Can you imagine adding Eiffel Tower to that area and their height will be now the same! lol .. You won't even notice Eiffel Tower then!

of course you would notice the Eiffel tower! by now it would be the tallest tower
in lower manhattan.

I rented a 2X adapter for my 200mm lens. So far so good. I may not have to buy a whole new one.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4830/1wtc91411.jpg

Love this video!:)
JU5g3BdeWUA

Work started again on top of 1WTC..

So we could see another height jump soon :cheer:

I rented a 2X adapter for my 200mm lens. So far so good. I may not have to buy a whole new one.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4830/1wtc91411.jpg

wow, that is the best, and clearest shot of the work at the top I have seen.

After wetting our appetite with that I hope you can post picks regularly.

BTW, in that picture what are the really tiny looking pieces of wire sticking up? Is that rebar or something?

Pics taken by beanhead4529

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6067/6131936523_1014a66880_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6131936523/)
City of the Future (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6131936523/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6069/6132485028_f2cb3ce641_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6132485028/)
Lower Manhattan Panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6132485028/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/)

Love this video!:)
JU5g3BdeWUA

:banana2::cheers1:

Fucking cool! :banana:

BTW, in that picture what are the really tiny looking pieces of wire sticking up? Is that rebar or something?

Only part of scaffolding..It rises with it..

Damn, that would look awesome..What if I tell you something like that will be done?

I'd jump out of my skin and dance with joy.

I'd jump out of my skin and dance with joy.

Remember what you said..:D

I rented a 2X adapter for my 200mm lens. So far so good. I may not have to buy a whole new one.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4830/1wtc91411.jpg

My god! Thank you for this update. Amazing shot! :cheers:

Does anyone know the plan for the base?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6172/6145384643_1228c4c77f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boisturephoto/6145384643/)
Lower Manhattan Sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boisturephoto/6145384643/) por Will Boisture (http://www.flickr.com/people/boisturephoto/), no Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6145819967_3af7930f13_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62979151@N00/6145819967/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62979151@N00/6145819967/) por alchemyjmb (http://www.flickr.com/people/62979151@N00/), no Flickr

Remember what you said..:D

Do you know something we don't Dino? You've gotten me excited here.

Do you know something we don't Dino? You've gotten me excited here.

Does anyone know the plan for the base?

It's about base cladding..

STR said they're going with the glass fins..Something like this:

http://www.145hudson.com/penthouse/images/glass/glass02.jpg
http://www.145hudson.com/penthouse/

And supposedly the fins will go in different directions..Note that this is not a glass for the base, it's only a example of something similar..We're still waiting for official renders..They're testing the glass right now..

Only rumors for now..

Excellent pics! The Memorial is so beautiful and 1WTC now becomes a supertall oficially !

^^^^^^^^I was too lazy for QOUTE ;)

When I saw the last picture of this collection, I thought at the first moment:
what the f***. The building isn't ready, but the spire is at the top. Haha :nuts:
Amazing pics, by the way ;)
Question, be honest: Did somebody think the same?

Dang Its already at a 1000? The construction must be going pretty fast. That hazy pic of downtown is epic
^^^^ ha ha me too

... http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6069/6132485028_f2cb3ce641_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6132485028/)
Lower Manhattan Panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6132485028/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/)Thanks!

Now with a supertall WTC building almost back, this view is again a "panorama to die for"... especially with this illumination and in full size (5 MB) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6132485028/sizes/o/in/photostream/). :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6190/6147932220_efec173939_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arnoldus1942/6147932220/sizes/l/in/photostream/
^^
WTC Twin Towers - 1971

^^ These pics show clearly how much different the structural design of 1WTC is compared to the Twins :cheers:

Can't wait for the base cladding. :D Can we expect to see 1 WTC at 1,100 feet by November?

Only rumors for now..

Naah... Architectural Record (McGraw Hill Construction) is a pretty serious magazine, so in my opinion there are no rumors but only the truth. :D

A controversial tower rises at ground zero (http://archrecord.construction.com/projects/portfolio/2011/09/One-World-Trade-Center.asp)
At the ground, each side of the building will have a cable-net-supported glazed portal, 60 feet tall, although the lobby will be otherwise surrounded in concrete. The architects had planned to camouflage the podium with tempered and laminated prismatic glass panels that would reflect, refract, and transmit light, in order to “establish a relationship with the water cascading in the memorial pools,” says Childs. However, after discovering that tempering caused the panels to bow, interfering with the laminating process, the project team devised another solution. The alternate, which sources describe as glass fins projecting from the facade at various angles, is now in the bidding phase but has yet to be finalized.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6147396054_d5be5d2eb0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xpressbus/6147396054/)
9/11 Memorial (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xpressbus/6147396054/) by xpressbus (http://www.flickr.com/people/xpressbus/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/6147398940_e76e357db8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xpressbus/6147398940/)
World Trade Center 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xpressbus/6147398940/) by xpressbus (http://www.flickr.com/people/xpressbus/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6147119860_9ced42d289_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshisagoodman/6147119860/)
IMAG0387-picsay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshisagoodman/6147119860/) by joshisagoodman (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshisagoodman/), on Flickr

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IMAG0401-picsay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshisagoodman/6146570807/) by joshisagoodman (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshisagoodman/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6202/6146571055_c36b368207_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshisagoodman/6146571055/)
IMAG0406-picsay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshisagoodman/6146571055/) by joshisagoodman (http://www.flickr.com/people/joshisagoodman/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6169/6146467528_111fd55c7a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rkm74/6146467528/)
THE NEW SENTINELS - 9/11 MEMORIAL MUSEUM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rkm74/6146467528/) by W安DערL المتحدة الولاياتT PHOTO (http://www.flickr.com/people/rkm74/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6145589681_80f731f4bd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27714993@N06/6145589681/)
september 4th world trade center 026 -edit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27714993@N06/6145589681/) by greekcs81 (http://www.flickr.com/people/27714993@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6145586391_95db3f8bd2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145586391/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: a look at the southeast corner of the new One World Trade Center (IMG_1694) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145586391/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

Note in this one of the four emergency exit doors:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6075/6146119108_ec990b102a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6146119108/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: a look at the southeast corner of the new One World Trade Center (IMG_1637) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6146119108/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6184/6146845347_ea14d52a71_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/njcarguy/6146845347/)
Freedom Tower and Surrounding Builings (http://www.flickr.com/photos/njcarguy/6146845347/) by NjCarGuy (http://www.flickr.com/people/njcarguy/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6084/6147447875_3c21710883_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/6147447875/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/6147447875/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6079/6147941672_354fe8aba3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/6147941672/)
In Front of the Reflecting Pool (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42661584@N04/6147941672/) by CSondi (http://www.flickr.com/people/42661584@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6068/6144107261_bdec2c0ef5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7992759@N04/6144107261/)
IMGP2927_8_9_tonemapped (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7992759@N04/6144107261/) by pbellamy1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/7992759@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6143520885_dda041f35d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7992759@N04/6143520885/)
IMGP2856 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7992759@N04/6143520885/) by pbellamy1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/7992759@N04/), on Flickr

^^ :eek: Wow! Thats alot of glass!!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6064/6145589385_e782267416_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145589385/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: American flag on the upper flors of One World Trade Center (IMG_1733) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145589385/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6199/6145589225_b04c5d02b7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145589225/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: the top of One World Trade Center (IMG_1731) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145589225/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6146138562_4204caa491_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6146138562/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: One World Trade Center as seen from the south wall of the South Memorial Pool (IMG_1729) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6146138562/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6145588827_40966aeebb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145588827/)
National 9/11 Memorial, 09/12/11: material being hoisted to the top of the new One World Trade Center (IMG_1727) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/6145588827/) by Gary Dunaier (http://www.flickr.com/people/gary_dunaier/), on Flickr

Nice... I like the glass fin idea.

When will this tower top out?

I dont mean complete, but when will it reach the max height?

http://www.savethefacades.com/mem_park_sml2.jpg

http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/RNGS/2011/SEP/SEPT3_WF.jpg

Is this real or some sort of made up thing? If not it actually looks a good idea! :)

I don't know what Oasis is trying to prove with all those pics that don't have any relation with 1WTC..

About the cladding of the base and into the first floors, when they will start putting on? Its the same as was in renders?

http://www.savethefacades.com/mem_park_sml2.jpg

http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/RNGS/2011/SEP/SEPT3_WF.jpg

the pools are gonna look like that?

the pools are gonna look like that?

No. The pools are done..

About the cladding of the base and into the first floors, when they will start putting on? Its the same as was in renders?

Not yet..They testing the glass right now..

Trucks with steel for 82nd floor just came to the site..

Here is a photograph of both the old and new WTC models i've made.
The old WTC was designed by STR and the new was by various modelers on the scale model section, including myself.

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/249/oldnewwtc.jpg
By timjames852 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/timjames852) at 2011-06-19

i want these models! pm me plz!

New steel up this morning.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7793/1wtc915111.jpg

so is it above 1000 feet now?:)

so is it above 1000 feet now?:)

Yup. ~1,017 feet high to the column splice. 82nd floor.

from earthcam
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forgiveness if this already posted before

Is this real or some sort of made up thing? If not it actually looks a good idea! :)

Very old idea, I haven't seen those pictures in years.

Anyway it's good to see some new steel go up.

Thanks for those pics Otie!

New Renders

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089927-rising-dbox-004-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089933-rising-dbox-005-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089942-rising-dbox-007-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089949-rising-dbox-009-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089963-rising-dbox-012-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089917-rising-dbox-002-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089922-rising-dbox-003-1000x562.jpg


Via http://www.archdaily.com/169413/update-rising-rebuilding-ground-zero-dbox/

Those renders made the complex look much much nicer, but that second picture, is there anybody but me that think' s the One World Trade Center is VERY tall there, allmost too tall? Or will it accually be that dominating?

To compare, the Tower 3 of the World Financial Center (1985), height 739 ft (225 m) [The tallest of that complex]

I dont think ive seen renders look so real... EVER... :O
they look AMAZING!!!

Render #4 looks like one of STR's.

Are there any renders of how the base is going to look? I now know about the "glass fins", but would like to see an example...

Those are amazing renders! However I have seen them before on here :) but great to see them again, good to show the positive effect on NYC this new complex will have :cheers:

New Renders

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089927-rising-dbox-004-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089933-rising-dbox-005-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089942-rising-dbox-007-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089949-rising-dbox-009-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089963-rising-dbox-012-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089917-rising-dbox-002-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089922-rising-dbox-003-1000x562.jpg


Via http://www.archdaily.com/169413/update-rising-rebuilding-ground-zero-dbox/

Yeah! Oh my god are this renders cool. The third one (counted from the end of collection) is my favourite one. I have the feeling, I have to travel in the year 2013 to New yORK ;). At my last visit, the highest observation deck was that at the roof of the Empire State building. This is going to change :banana:

Congratulations, NYC and America: 1 World Trade Center is officially 1,000 feet tall.

Well, since new steel went up today it is again time for my famous roof height diagrams :cheers:

1WTC is at this moment at floor 82 with a height of 310 meters / 1017 feet. It is currently the second tallest building in NYC and the 7th tallest building in the United States. It is only 1 foot shorter than the US bank Tower in LA:

http://i52.tinypic.com/5w0bwz.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/t6wayx.jpg

And one more diagram to show the actual height of 1WTC and compare it with it's NYC neighbours:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2guwm8l.jpg

Where's Carlos? I miss he's photographs :(

^^ On SSP. He had a conflict with one of the moderators here and left.

at skyscraperpage.com

Those renders made the complex look much much nicer, but that second picture, is there anybody but me that think' s the One World Trade Center is VERY tall there, allmost too tall? Or will it accually be that dominating?

I noticed that too. It does look a little "extra" tall. I'm sure its just a trick due to the angle, distance, so on. But it still looks a little off.

1WTC is certainly going to dominate Lower Manhattan. Just like the original twins did. And once finished, if there's no 2WTC for awhile, its going to really shine all by itself.

I will update my diagram as soon as 1 WTC passes Chrysler building/NYTT. Really happy 1 WTC is now a supertall in terms of meters and feet. :cheers:

why two times the same diagram?
Yes, very excellent ;)

why two times the same diagram?
Yes, very excellent ;)

One is in meters and the second one is in feet. I use meters but the US folks over here use feet :cheers:

I will update my diagram as soon as 1 WTC passes Chrysler building/NYTT. Really happy 1 WTC is now a supertall in terms of meters and feet.

That will be in two jumps. In the next jump it'll be 1044 feet tall, which is 2 feet less than CHB's spire. The jump after that one it'll be 1071 feet tall :cheers:

why two times the same diagram?
Yes, very excellent ;)

Kanto has his own diagram..Roof heights..Official world measurments include spires..

One is in meters and the second one is in feet. I use meters but the US folks over here use feet :cheers:



That will be in two jumps. In the next jump it'll be 1044 feet tall, which is 2 feet less than CHB's spire. The jump after that one it'll be 1071 feet tall :cheers:

Oh yeah, I didn't see that. ;)
:cheers: I don't now why, normally I have eyes like eagles have ;)

I noticed that too. It does look a little "extra" tall. I'm sure its just a trick due to the angle, distance, so on. But it still looks a little off.

1WTC is certainly going to dominate Lower Manhattan. Just like the original twins did. And once finished, if there's no 2WTC for awhile, its going to really shine all by itself.

Well, if 2WTC is the correct height, the pinnacle of that building is only slightly lower than the roof line of WTC1 on that render which is slightly difficult to make out. So it appears to be correct IMO.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6151347934_241a47f239_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ext212/6151347934/)
World Trade Center Memorial (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ext212/6151347934/) by ext212 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ext212/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6202/6150800027_44930b375f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ext212/6150800027/)
World Trade Center Memorial (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ext212/6150800027/) by ext212 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ext212/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6150686334_15267bc4dc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/intersections/6150686334/)
Lanterns911-237 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/intersections/6150686334/) by Intersections International (http://www.flickr.com/people/intersections/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6202/6151461788_807756e666_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/orsomk/6151461788/)
Freedom Tower Going Up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/orsomk/6151461788/) by {Photo Mo} (http://www.flickr.com/people/orsomk/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6062/6148932124_e5ee25a570_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wasabi_bob/6148932124/)
Tribute in Light 2011 Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wasabi_bob/6148932124/) by Wasabi Bob (http://www.flickr.com/people/wasabi_bob/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6067/6150841999_7fcf54d043_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/luciuskwok/6150841999/)
Looking at Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/luciuskwok/6150841999/) by Lucius Kwok (http://www.flickr.com/people/luciuskwok/), on Flickr

Does anyone know how the spire will be constructed? I heard it was separated into smaller pieces, but I dunno. Also, I think the office floors should finish mid-November if I guessed right?

^^

Representation (on the horizon) when the building reaches the mark of 88 floors. (just to get an idea)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3267/wtcfloor88n2.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8540/t1a006.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4893/t1a005.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5722/t1a007.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8540/t1a006.jpg

I was right! :cheers:

Thank you, STR!

has it reached an octagon shape yet?

^^ long ago ;)

What is the current height?

To the splices 1,017' (~310m)

^^ long ago ;)

Darn! I knew it was in the 80s somewhere :cheers:

http://upic.me/i/s3/mclip.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28115076)
^^
The great shot !!!

^^ that is really great!

This building looks too short to me. The top is an unnatural end point, making it look stubby.

Perhaps it should have been bigger and without the spire?

no..

Finally, the skyline is being restored. However 2 WTC is a must.

^^ It is. But first tenants are a must and so far there is only Conde Nast(y) for 1WTC :cry:

^^ On SSP. He had a conflict with one of the moderators here and left.

Wasn't that over the fact he wrote his posts in red?

^^ Yup, it was :cheers:

http://upic.me/i/s3/mclip.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28115076)


:applause: : to the guy, who took this photo ;)

Nobody has posted the PA webcam pics for a while so I'll add one :cheer:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

http://upic.me/i/s3/mclip.jpg (http://upic.me/show/28115076)
^^
The great shot !!!

Oasis, you need to give credit to the photographer by leaving at least a link, specially if it is hosted on Flickr. We had some trouble with the Flickr staff a few months ago and that was the last warning, all photos must be credited.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6179/6148660687_2d8d90d291_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/6148660687/)
the perfect afternoon from the World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/6148660687/) by Tony Shi. (http://www.flickr.com/people/tonyshi/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/6151304903_ccc0a00730_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13105207@N04/6151304903/)
Rising (http://www.flickr.com/photos/13105207@N04/6151304903/) by Eric Hart Design (http://www.flickr.com/people/13105207@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6153119526_347d42cdbd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6153119526/)
One WTC | Construction Diagram | September 16th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6153119526/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Larger version (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9990/1wtc160911.jpg)

So, 1WTC is now the second tallest building to roof in NYC? Second only to ESB, correct?

This building looks too short to me. The top is an unnatural end point, making it look stubby.

Perhaps it should have been bigger and without the spire?



That's because it's not there yet. It still has over 300 feet to go.

I think it should have had a pyramid on top, instead of a spire. That (in my opinion) would complete the design.

Larry Silverstein, David Childs, and Chris Ward on Charlie Rose TV show (http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11888)





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better than old WTCSure, you're right about that! It is far better in almost every way. The cladding and slick facade are very refreshing to look at. This is actually the best building in that vicinity.

I think it should have had a pyramid on top, instead of a spire. That (in my opinion) would complete the design.What a funny way to make jest of the building. It isn't built in Egypt, for that simple reason, pyramid is not necessarily needed.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6152288050_49eaf88f8b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gqjai/6152288050/)
Freedom Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gqjai/6152288050/) by GQjai (http://www.flickr.com/people/gqjai/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6086/6153350416_894f530c8b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6153350416/)
Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6153350416/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6151061925_a9cc0bd20f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/poolgirlphotog/6151061925/)
A Floor A Week -- Lower Manhattan -- NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/poolgirlphotog/6151061925/) by PoolGirl PhoTog (http://www.flickr.com/people/poolgirlphotog/), on Flickr

I think it should have had a pyramid on top, instead of a spire. That (in my opinion) would complete the design.

No pyramids as rooftops are ugly. I like the flat roof, with or without the spire.

The WFC right next door already has a pyramid on top anyway.

So, 1WTC is now the second tallest building to roof in NYC? Second only to ESB, correct?

Yup, it is. Second tallest in NYC and 7th tallest in the US :cheer:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2guwm8l.jpg

To the splices 1,017' (~310m)

So close to its 1,362. ^^ (That's not counting the parapet...)

Freedom Tower is already looking nice...Can't wait to get a peak of this in MW3!!..I freaked out when I saw this in the trailers/videos!

I know i am late to the punch but finally 1 wtc is a supertall :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::applause::righton::rock::pepper:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6083/6153223323_929579ccd8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6153223323/)
one world trade center; 9/16/2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6153223323/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

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I know, the most of you have said it already, but:

The One WTC looks fucking great in the Lower-Manhattan-Skyline.

I think, it's one of the most interesting and beautiful skyscraper-projects, that NY have ever seen. Congratulations to New York's Skyline. When all the new WTC's are built, it's the best skyline in the world. :banana2:

Said already, but: I HAVE TO VISIT NEW YORK soon

I think it should have had a pyramid on top, instead of a spire. That (in my opinion) would complete the design.

I agree, it's not designed tall enough. They should have designed it to be about 2,000 feet tall.

Yes, the spire looks so oversized. So superfluous. I would find it better too, without spire.
The pyramide is a good idea. ;)

Amaizing skyscraper. Wonderful.:banana::banana::cheers::cheers:

Yes, the spire looks so oversized. So superfluous. I would find it better too, without spire.
The pyramide is a good idea. ;)

+1

Yes, the spire looks so oversized. So superfluous. I would find it better too, without spire.
The pyramide is a good idea. ;)

No. Even though it could of been taller the design is perfect for new york. A huge pyriamid sticking out in the skyline looks stupid... Dont want to be like sand fran ;)

I love the Antenna ... it is like a crown

I love the Antenna ... it is like a crown
SHhhh, don't call it an antenna four will be counted in the height! Even though it looks like an antenna it is a spire so it can be counted. :ohno::bash:

It's called spire, it's counted into the height and it has an antenna inside of the spire..

SHhhh, don't call it an antenna four will be counted in the height! Even though it looks like an antenna it is a spire so it can be counted. :ohno::bash:

It looks nothing like an antenna, are you kidding? It looks like what it is - a spire.

del

It looks nothing like an antenna, are you kidding? It looks like what it is - a spire.

This forum isn't exactly full of skyscraper scholars lol

^^ if that isn't the truth, then I don't know what is lol.

a spiral antenna

a spiral antenna

:shifty:

:shifty:

Scares me too.

How many floors now?

This thread is seriously one flawed, uneducated argument against another, over and over again. Contribute or shut up, PLEASE.

September 16th, nycdagreatest, Skyscraperpage..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6154457442_19525be643_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6154473940_b06d49df40_b.jpg

No. Even though it could of been taller the design is perfect for new york. A huge pyriamid sticking out in the skyline looks stupid... Dont want to be like sand fran ;)

Might be. But I think they should let the building grow until it has reached without spire the 500 Metres, and after this, they can think about a 50 metres high spire, but a 120 metres high one is just oversized. This one is not made for a Skyscraper, its made for a telecommunication-tower, you now what i mean ;)

I don't come from NY, so I think i may ask this question: Which tower is the one next to the OWTC? In the right side of picture, between One WTC and Woolworth Building(?)?
Beautiful pics, by the way. ;)

Might be. But I think they should let the building grow until it has reached without spire the 500 Metres, and after this, they can think about a 50 metres high spire, but a 120 metres high one is just oversized. This one is not made for a Skyscraper, its made for a telecommunication-tower, you now what i mean ;)

Yeah, that would be nice but unfortunately it is now impossible. Once the foundations are made it is impossible to add height to a building cause a taller building needs bigger foundations :cry:

I don't come from NY, so I think i may ask this question: Which tower is the one next to the OWTC? In the right side of picture, between One WTC and Woolworth Building(?)?
Beautiful pics, by the way.
Today 11:51 AM

It's the Beekman Tower :cheers:

Yeah, that would be nice but unfortunately it is now impossible. Once the foundations are made it is impossible to add height to a building cause a taller building needs bigger foundations :cry:


It's not impossible..You can add more height..Buildings are never calculated to the maximum..But as much as you add, that much is taken from the strength of the building..There are rules and laws you have to take care of in case you want to add something up..Also, you can't add 100 more floors or something like that..

Nr.1: Yeah, I know. Unfortunately, unfortunately. However, things are happening and nobody can change this now. Nevertheless I think, it's going to get a wonderful skyscraper, with, or without spire.

Nr.2: Thank you, I've supposed that.

September 16th, nycdagreatest, Skyscraperpage..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6154457442_19525be643_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6154473940_b06d49df40_b.jpg

nice new angle. Just like if Wtc and Beekman are neighbors. :)

What a funny way to make jest of the building. It isn't built in Egypt, for that simple reason, pyramid is not necessarily needed.

There was no jest. I'm not sure what your point is, the building is already 8 pyramids.

nice new angle.

I think so too. I'm sure, there are going to come a lot of new angles in the future. NY is a big city, and the One World Trade Center a high building....

(Maybe, there's someone cheeky, climbs up the Brooklyn-Bridge and takes some photos :lol:)

Great Building! :cheers2:

I was right! :cheers:

Thank you, STR!

No problem, but what were you right about?

I think it should have had a pyramid on top, instead of a spire. That (in my opinion) would complete the design.

This isn't ancient Egypt. :ohno:

You've already got your Ra worshiping obelisk right in the middle of Washington D.C.

^^ And another one right next to 1WTC (3WFC) :okay::master:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6189/6154928740_2bcae71d4d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bythomsen/6154928740/)
Em ritmo acelerado (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bythomsen/6154928740/) by byThomsen (http://www.flickr.com/people/bythomsen/), on Flickr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2GQ65OkyF4&feature=colike
The Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero- Struggling to Stay Open

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6189/6154928740_2bcae71d4d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bythomsen/6154928740/)
Em ritmo acelerado (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bythomsen/6154928740/) by byThomsen (http://www.flickr.com/people/bythomsen/), on Flickr
Why this picture ? :)

SHhhh, don't call it an antenna four will be counted in the height! Even though it looks like an antenna it is a spire so it can be counted. :ohno::bash:

Sorryyyyyyy :)

There was no jest. I'm not sure what your point is, the building is already 8 pyramids.

They're triangles...

No problem, but what were you right about?

That the render looks like one of yours.

^^ And another one right next to 1WTC (3WFC) :okay::master:

Where's the obelisk?

-
Nice pictures, Otie and Eric. ^^

^^ 3WFC is the Ra worshiping obelisk next to 1WTC :master:

Btw, I just saw Rising. It was an awesome documentary :banana2::cheers:

This might be referring to an old design:

The overall office space of the entire rebuilt World Trade Center will be reduced by more than 3,000,000 square feet (280,000 m 2 ) as compared with the original complex.

that is not true ^

nice new angle. Just like if Wtc and Beekman are neighbors. :)

Personally I don't like the view from this angle. Feels like Beekman kind of steals 1 WTC's thunder from that perspective. But 1 WTC will be almost completely covered up from that angle by tower 2 in the coming years, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

Better resolution of the already posted:

(Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero / dbox (http://www.archdaily.com/169413/update-rising-rebuilding-ground-zero-dbox/))
http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089949-rising-dbox-009-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089945-rising-dbox-008-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089942-rising-dbox-007-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089939-rising-dbox-006-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089933-rising-dbox-005-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089927-rising-dbox-004-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089922-rising-dbox-003-1000x562.jpg

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089963-rising-dbox-012-1000x562.jpg

^^
wow :omg:

It really looks awesome at night, can't wait :colgate:

Oh my gosh, real pictures it seems.

Took these a couple of hours ago:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5652/dscn5615x.jpg


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7426/dscn5617.jpg


http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9058/dscn5618.jpg


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8105/dscn5619g.jpg

and some more..

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3182/dscn5620m.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1953/dscn5621y.jpg


model at the Skyscraper Museum (located at battery place)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1929/dscn5640w.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7561/dscn5641.jpg

Otie, is there any way of getting those renders in a better resolution? (for desktop wallpaper)

^Yes: Pre-order (http://store.discovery.com/detail.php?p=360557&v=discovery&ecid=PRF-TV1-100281&pa=PRF-TV1-100281) "Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero" DVD and once it's in your computer, take some screencaps and share them :D

There was no jest. I'm not sure what your point is, the building is already 8 pyramids.If that was your point, what's the spire for in your previous post? I mean no harm. I thought it's all about jest.

^Yes: Pre-order (http://store.discovery.com/detail.php?p=360557&v=discovery&ecid=PRF-TV1-100281&pa=PRF-TV1-100281) "Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero" DVD and once it's in your computer, take some screencaps and share them :D

Ok thanks for the info :lol:
One wtc is lookin' good with all that glass :drool:

September 17th, 2011

(I'm back! :D New camera also! Unfortunately today's total cloud cover sucked ass for taking pictures! Also I got there about half hour before the sun set. Can't wait till I can take some pics on a bright sunny day!)

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The concrete base looks freaking impregnable. They aren't messing around.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7561/dscn5641.jpg

Love the spire on 1WTC!:cheers:

^^ 3WFC is the Ra worshiping obelisk next to 1WTC :master:

3WFC is not an obelisk. If it is, I will eat my hat (when I get one...)

Those renders are amazing, Otie!

^^ I love that model. It looks so massive; yet gentle.

^^ I, so, hate THAT spire! Otherwise, One World Trade Center is another striking (new) icon for NYC.

or Freedom Tower already has 300m?

^^ I, so, hate THAT spire! Otherwise, One World Trade Center is another striking (new) icon for NYC.
You do realize that it's only about 49 feet taller than the North Tower's antenna, right?

Beautiful :o

3WFC is not an obelisk. If it is, I will eat my hat (when I get one...)

Those renders are amazing, Otie!

^^ I love that model. It looks so massive; yet gentle.

That's true, though it has a pyramid on it's top so it can serve the purpose of worshiping Ra :hilarious:master:

September 17th, 2011

(I'm back! :D New camera also! Unfortunately today's total cloud cover sucked ass for taking pictures! Also I got there about half hour before the sun set. Can't wait till I can take some pics on a bright sunny day!)


Welcome back dude..I've been wondering what happened to you..Awesome shots..Thanks..Those sunsets are amazing..

Why do they need the antenna and all those dishes on top anyway? Isn't there enough antennae around new york already?

^^ Silverstein is a massive entrepreneur. If you're building that tall, you'd be crazy not to take advantage of the height by not installing communications equipment. Its largely about money, but also crucial to the building's operation as a bustling office tower.

^^ I dunno but that's weird since in Hong Kong nobody instaled an antenna on ICC or on 2IFC :dunno:

That's because in Hong Kong the antennae are on the mountains surrounding the city.

The concrete base looks freaking impregnable. They aren't messing around.

Hell yes.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/6153499625_0f932ba5be_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stadiumpage/6153499625/)
DSCN3808 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stadiumpage/6153499625/) by StadiumPage (http://www.flickr.com/people/stadiumpage/), on Flickr

Nice to have you back, NYCD! We appreciate your dedication.

My Photo from a Few nights ago..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6154316633_a9e44ec6c5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6154316633/)
DSC06953 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/6154316633/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

Better resolution of the already posted:

(Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero / dbox (http://www.archdaily.com/169413/update-rising-rebuilding-ground-zero-dbox/))
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OH MY GAUUUHHHDDDDD!!!! looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooo beeautiful.

I now start to wonder if we would ever remember NYC and lower Manhattan a year or two after these are all being constructed as they sure will change the skyline of NYC so drastically into a way way way astonishing city that dazzles old and new residents and visitors?!

I had no idea that there is anything such as a Skyscraper museum over there??

can you pls give me the address? love to visit it myself.

I got two passions in my life: Skyscrapers and Shoes! :)

New York, you get more and more beautiful :banana:

That's because in Hong Kong the antennae are on the mountains surrounding the city.

That makes sense. I didn't know that there are mountains near Hong Kong so thanks for the info :cheers:

That makes sense. I didn't know that there are mountains near Hong Kong so thanks for the info :cheers:

LOL. One skyline pic of HK is enough to see the mountain range. Don't tell me you haven't seen a single pic of Hong Kong yet!

Btw great renders, they indeed look very realistic. Also I'm glad NYCD is back! :)

^^ Uhm, well, I didn't :shifty: But now I googled some :cheer:

^^ Uhm, well, I didn't :shifty: But now I googled some :cheer:

LOL. Look here: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2799/4103477610_6b8098e5a1_o.jpg

Sorry for going OT.

^^ Why say anything about HK, if you never seen pictures of it. NYC has lots of TV and radio stations. And ESB antenna isn't all that great.

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It looks like a nuclear bunker. :nuts:

It looks like a nuclear bunker. :nuts:

Yeah it does :lol::lol:

Really gigantic! :cheers:

It looks like a nuclear bunker. :nuts:

That's why I love it so much :banana2:

anybody know what's going on in this photo?
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Hell yes.
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That base would make me feel safe. I hope that whoever works there enjoys it. The chamfered corners are beautiful.

anybody know what's going on in this photo

That's the backside of WTC3, the transit hub, and WTC2. If that helps...

That base would make me feel safe. I hope that whoever works there enjoys it. The chamfered corners are beautiful.



They better not be claustrophobic. Yikes. At least the ceilings are tall.

That's why I love it so much :banana2:

I too. It would make me feel small. :)
I'm looking forward the big opening. When I know exactly when and where, I'm going towait, buy a ticket on the airport and fly to NY. And then, I will take 20000 photos :lol:.

This is going to be a moment, where I HAVE TO BE there.:banana::cheers:

A day old, caught it on one of the Earth cams at sunrise, caught a cruise ship passing by at the same moment. Needed to save it.
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Looks amazing! :cheers:

^^^^ A great idea to take this photo. It's really beautiful.
You did have a good eye ;)

^^^^ A great idea to take this photo. It's really beautiful.
You did have a good eye ;)

That and a bit of right timing.

Here is the maximum resolution photo save if you want it:)
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Representation (on the horizon) when the building reaches the mark of 88 floors. (just to get an idea)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3267/wtcfloor88n2.jpg

I really like that. Could you do one of those that shows how tall it will be around thanksgiving?

That and a bit of right timing.

Here is the maximum resolution photo save if you want it:)
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Thank you! It looks 10 times better than previous.
I really like this photo. It's, well..., yeah everything is perfect. The light, the angle, just everything. I think, it's an example for a perfect photo :cheers:

Today, Tectonic, WNY..

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I too. It would make me feel small. :)
I'm looking forward the big opening. When I know exactly when and where, I'm going towait, buy a ticket on the airport and fly to NY. And then, I will take 20000 photos :lol:.

This is going to be a moment, where I HAVE TO BE there.:banana::cheers:

Me too. Even though I already have a family I still didn't give up on my dream of living in the US. If I would ever get there the first place I'd visit would be 1WTC :drool::master:

;) I think so, too. I've a family and since I'm a child, I wished I live in the US. I don't know why, but it is how it is. Yes, and I'm sitting still in Vienna, and waiting, that time passes.
;) Maybe in two years...
I hope it's going to get true :D

A little bit detailed info about the new base glass, but still nothing visual..

Above the blast wall and the lobby is a layer of infrastructural floors reaching to 57 meters above ground; this lower section will be covered in reflective glass. “The idea is to make it lively. The architects didn’t want it to look so dead at the bottom of the building,” Tollner says. The original plan to sheath the base in prismatic glass fell through earlier this year after millions of dollars failed to produce a satisfactory glass product. “This new design is completely different,” Tollner says. “It’s going to have glass fins, and they will have a very nice reflective quality. They’re not going to be completely flat against the building, and they’ll have a frosted texture behind. When they light up the building from within you’ll get some interesting patterns.”
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=shaping-up-10-engineering-and-design-facts-about-one-world-trade-center

^^ Nice! I'm looking forward to seeing a mockup or renders! :okay:

Edit: BTW Dino, your avatar is awesome!

I'm curious as to what it means by "glass fins"...

I dont understand that some people find the spire "too tall" ... the proportions are great IMO...

I'm curious as to what it means by "glass fins"...

Something like this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/65/168514124_fb2e745ff1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/archidose/168514124/)
Glass Fins (http://www.flickr.com/photos/archidose/168514124/) by archidose (http://www.flickr.com/people/archidose/), on Flickr

http://www.striblingny.com/145hudson/GLASS01.jpg
145 Hudson (http://www.striblingny.com/145hudson/) project

Take a look to this gallery (http://www.145hudson.com/penthouse/ph-glass.swf) of 145 Hudson (a penthouse in Tribeca), it has interesting stuff that gives you a clear idea of what they are playing with..

^^ Do the fins have a purpose other than decoration?

^ The mechanical equipment is already protected by black vents, perhaps the base needs to be clad to protect even more the mechanical floors..
A little bit detailed info about the new base glass, but still nothing visual..

Above the blast wall and the lobby is a layer of infrastructural floors reaching to 57 meters above ground; this lower section will be covered in reflective glass. “The idea is to make it lively. The architects didn’t want it to look so dead at the bottom of the building,” Tollner says. The original plan to sheath the base in prismatic glass fell through earlier this year after millions of dollars failed to produce a satisfactory glass product. “This new design is completely different,” Tollner says. “It’s going to have glass fins, and they will have a very nice reflective quality. They’re not going to be completely flat against the building, and they’ll have a frosted texture behind. When they light up the building from within you’ll get some interesting patterns.”
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=shaping-up-10-engineering-and-design-facts-about-one-world-trade-center

I'm worried about the high reflective properties of the glass fins, from some angles it'll reflect dark things like buildings, and we all know that glass does reflects things in a darker tone... Can't imagine how horrendus the base could look from a really high viewpoint such as from helicopters...

edit: Oh wait! From other upper angles the base will reflect very nice the trees of the Memorial and hopefuly the reflection of the sky in the voids.. :cool:

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Who is the architect of this tower?

Who is the architect of this tower?

David Childs

Who is the architect of this tower?

David Childs from SOM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Childs

anybody know what's going on in this photo?
http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1316089953-rising-dbox-010-1000x562.jpg

That's a render of the WTC transportation hub

http://www.wtc.com/about/transportation-hub

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1119329

^ The mechanical equipment is already protected by black vents, perhaps the base needs to be clad to protect even more the mechanical floors..

Otie, was this an answer to my question?? I'm not sure if I'm catchin what you're throwin out..

I had no idea that there is anything such as a Skyscraper museum over there??

can you pls give me the address? love to visit it myself.

I got two passions in my life: Skyscrapers and Shoes! :)

39 Battery Place

^^ Do the fins have a purpose other than decoration?

Facade fins can act as a barricade from interior to street. A few new buildings on my campus have them and they are solely to minimize the area from which the interior can be seen, though this is only feasible with opaque glass.

^^ Nice! I'm looking forward to seeing a mockup or renders! :okay:

Edit: BTW Dino, your avatar is awesome!

Thanks man..The best I had so far..:D



edit: Oh wait! From other upper angles the base will reflect very nice the trees of the Memorial and hopefuly the reflection of the sky in the voids.. :cool:

Exactly..Actually, depends on angle..But there's a lot of colors and tones down on the street level, so I believe reflections will be awesome..

I hope to see something like that glass on museum..That would be sweet..

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Every pics by joevare from flickr.com

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Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6161571995/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/)on Flickr

^^ wow
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just saved then.

That's a render of the WTC transportation hub

http://www.wtc.com/about/transportation-hub

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1119329
ahhh, OK. Thanks!

Wow, cool. ;)

Double post sorry

Do I see new steel up again already :o?